Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Murdaugh Murders - Prominemt South Carolina Family Killed Execution Style

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

Paul & Maggie Murdaugh were found shot to death execution style at their families hunting lodge. Paul Murdaugh (21) was involved in a boating accident that claimed the life of 19 year old Mallory Beach. The Murdaugh Family is a very prominent family in South Carolina with many members of the family being involved in the lowcountry legal system. So far theier are no leads that have been released in the case.

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I am your host, Chad. Name, last name, unknown. I was kidding. Along to my wife, Sherry. How's everybody doing? Say hello, Sherry. Hi, guys.

So anyways, I hope everyone has been doing good. We took a little bit of a break. Not much of one. No, it's like, what, two weeks? Probably about two weeks, yeah. But we were going through a lot of stuff. You can tell them about it quick. Well, we've been, yeah, we've been trying to move,

or our plan was to move to South Carolina Low Country. And towards the beach. And, you know, unfortunately, the way the real estate market is right now, it is really tough. So, you know, it's absolutely a seller's market, but it's a horrible buyer's market. You cannot find houses right now unless you have the cash on hand ready to buy. I mean, you can, I guess, in some cases, but especially towards the beach location, the popular destinations, you just can't do it. And so we have been going crazy, fixing everything, doing whatever we need to do. Well, we have really fixed up our houses.

One good thing about it because, you know, we thought, oh, my gosh, you know, I got a job down there. We're ready to go. Let's do it. Blah, blah, blah. So we're like fixing up our house as quick as we can. And then it just didn't work out the way. But at least we have a nice, clean house. Yeah, we do.

And have new, beautiful, lots of stuff. By the way, guys, I know we've talked about this before, but we are going to have our merch store up very soon. Actually, someone just... Yeah. Tell me about what happened at the grocery store. We were at a grocery store. Sherry wore one of our shirts. It's about JFK.

And it said, you know, what is the truth? I still have it on right now. I have it on right now. Yeah, we're going to have that one available in the merch store. But, yeah, someone's, I mean, Sherry got a lot of looks throughout the day, but someone stopped her in the parking lot and was like, hey. What's all this about? What's the deal with this?

What do you guys think about this? And it's cool because it does open up a conversation, especially for people that probably think a lot like anybody that's listening or you or whatever. You'll find people a lot. quicker that probably think like you that you don't realize just by wearing the shirt. Yeah, I know. Just having like a shirt that, you know, you think about and you like to listen to or whatever.

Like, I thought it was pretty cool that that guy stopped us today. And it was the first time I've ever worn my new shirt because we just got them in not too long ago. Yeah. And that's kind of like if you put F. Joe Biden or F. Trump. Like, you're going to know. Like, you're either going to get shot or someone's going to like, oh, we love you. Yeah, but this one, you're not going to get shot, I don't think.

No, you won't. No. And it looks really cool. It does. Don't you like it? I love it. No, it is cool. Sherry designed it too.

Yeah, I love it. Even though, you know, his head is cut off right there, which I don't know if you should have done that on the shirt like that. Well, it's supposed to be like that. I know. I was just kidding. I created it like that. But anyways. So, guys, this podcast is going to be a little bit different tonight because I know that we have never, that I know of at least.

We've never had a murder mystery on our hand. So what I do want to say before we even get in this podcast, This is a close to home type murder mystery, but it is making national news. And it's making national news, I believe, for a very good reason. Just everything that surrounds the actual incident, the history of everything that came before the actual murders. And it is a very, very, very mysterious incident. And the thing is, is like, this is going, this, however the outcome plays out with this story and this investigation, this murder. You know, it's going to be talked about for a long time.

And it's going to be talked about on investigative shows. It's going to be talked about on everything, discovery, you name it. Yeah, it will be for sure. So basically what has happened is SLED, which is South Carolina Law Enforcement Division. And by the way, before we even get started in us, I do want to say that if in case that we don't happen to say allegedly for everything, we're going to disclaimer this, that everything is allegedly. we are basically only reading and reporting off of reports. And if I say anything about my opinion, it's my opinion. Okay, guys.

Nothing to be taken as fact. I'm not being like, I'm not laughing about it, but seriously, you know, if I have an opinion. Well, I mean, I'm just saying up front. If it's my opinion, then it's my opinion. Yeah. But yeah, so everything is allegedly and we do not say, you know, we don't know everything for fact. We don't know anything for fact, actually. We're just going to kind of give our opinions and that's our opinions.

And so right now, what is the deal? SLED is investigating. A Sled is a South Carolina law enforcement division in South Carolina. They are investigating a double homicide at a hunting lodge of the powerful Murdole family. So agents with the South Carolina law enforcement division are investigating two homicides. And this is an actual Colleton County in South Carolina. Collison County is towards the low country of South Carolina. It's more towards the Hilton Head area. Now, just to kind of give you a brief little vision in your head.

head, Hilton Head area of South Carolina, Buford, you know, Bluffton, that area is a very, very ritsy, rich area. Now, although this happened in Colleton County, no. Some parts are. Well, yeah, I'm talking about Hilton Head specifically. You get Hilton Head Island is a very ritsy island, and a lot of Bluffton is, and you got Buford, just not as much in some places. But anyways, Colleton County is just right outside of Buford County.

and then you got Hampton County, you got all these counties kind of down there in the low country. And so multiple sources familiar with the situation said that these murders did happen on the farm, the family farm, which was owned by the Murdoch family. So the crime scene is actually currently still under investigation and involves two members of the Murdoch family. And so basically the Murdoch family was in the spotlight.

back in February of 2019, when one of its kids, which was 21-year-old Paul Murdahl, he allegedly crashed a boat into a bridge near Parris Island, which is right near Buford, Hilton Head. You basically got Parris Island and you got Hilton Head Island or it's really kind of Buford and all that area. But they're basically across a port or a sound. God, I can't think of a pretty hard. Yeah, it's like two little islands right next to each other. Yeah. So he allegedly crashed a boat into a bridge. And so that crash actually killed 19-year-old Mallory Beach. It made headlines across the state for months. I mean, it was a big thing. I remember family members of mine telling me about the story. Paul Mordaul was actually waiting trial for that. Now, here's the thing. So this happened in 2019, this incident. So that was like, what, three years ago, I guess?

Yeah, whatever. And so he just got arraigned or, I guess, indicted on charges that stem from this boating accident. So it took three years to even get charges. Yeah, I think he got charges brought up in April. So two bodies were discovered on Monday evening at the Hunting Lodge, which was owned by the Murdof family. The property is known as Moselle, which is located at 4,157 Moselle Road. and that's an island in South Carolina. And it's basically an unincorporated community

located just north of Varnville, South Carolina. So you guys can kind of check it out on the maps and all that. The property actually straddles the border of Colleton and Hampton counties. So if you look at how the counties are laid out, it kind of straddles that one little area. They were discovered about 10 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time on Monday. and that was a week from, is today, Tuesday? Yeah, a week from yesterday.

Yeah, that was a week from yesterday. So, yeah, so they were discovered on the 7th of June at 10 p.m. And they were discovered by R. Alexander Alex Murdole or Alex Murdoch. And he was the father of Paul and the husband of Paul's wife. Yeah, well, you have not even told who's been murdered yet. No, I'm getting there. Well, you just said he's a husband. husband and the father.

Yeah. So who they found on the, on the scene when he discovered the bodies was his wife and his son, which is Paul. Both victims sustained multiple gunshot wounds. And, you know, both victims were identified. And the victims were identified, obviously, as Paul Murdole and his mother, which was Maggie Murdole. And she was also killed. So her husband and the dad of Paul is the one that actually.

found them, right? Yes. And this is not just a farmland. This is a place where they went hunting and they had like a lot of acreage, right? Yeah, there's a lot. Well, I don't know about exact acreage or anything. But yeah. But it's a honey lodge.

So yeah. Yeah. They would go hunting. Yeah. So SLED regional agents said by Tommy Crosby, he's basically the agency spokesperson, I believe, was SLED, said that regional agents saying crime scene professionals were working closely with law enforcement to investigate. at the incident and and they had no leads obviously because that was at the time.

And as of right now, Sled South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, the only person, which we're going to get into this, not right now, but the only person they have identified as a possible person of interest is Alex Murdole, which is the father and the husband of Maggie and Paul. He's the one that found him. But I'm just, yeah, because he's the one that found him. Usually the person that finds a murder victim is the first person of interest. Yes.

No matter what. You're exactly right. And the last person that's seen him, too. Yeah, when I actually first heard this just so, you know, and I could be completely wrong. But when I first heard that it was the father and mother, I mean, sorry, the father and husband. No, the father. Oh, the son. Okay.

And husband of them that found them. And he was a suspect. I was like, that's ridiculous. But why is it, why this so influential? Well, I'm going to get to this. So, so we heard about the boat accident, which happened. Allegedly Paul Murdole was driving the boat. And Mallory Beach, which was killed.

Her body was found, I believe, a week later. It could have been two weeks later, but she ended up dead. But they were actually, like, looking for her. Like, he, like, ran into some kind of, like, thing, right? It was a pylon or whatever in the river or whatever. Yeah. Well, I don't know. No, the boat accident is why she flew out of the boat.

Yeah, I'm saying he ran into something. Yes. Yeah. But you said looking for her. What are you talking about? No, I said he was running in. He rang into something. I thought you said someone was looking for him or her.

I don't know what you're saying. The Murdaws are, and just to kind of give you a background. The Murdals are one of the wealthiest, most powerful families in all of South Carolina low country. And one, arguably, as one of the most powerful families in South Carolina. a Murdahl served as a solicitor of South Carolina Fourth D. Judicial Circuit for nearly a century from 1920s of 2006. In addition to these powerful public positions,

the family has been a part of the influential Peters, Murdahl, Parker, and Eltross and Dietrich law firm in Hampton County for more than 100 years. And so not surprisingly, the rumors about what transpired at the hunting lodge are spreading like Wildfire across the state. And Tuesday morning, many news outlets were questioned who killed these people and could it have anything to do with the boating accident.

There was a, the Fit News has reported a lot of this stuff. They're really on top of this. Fit News is out of South Carolina. But they said that their news outlet had submitted a Freedom of Information Act or request to Colleton County Sheriff's Office for all information related to the investigation including any 911 calls. And so so far they have not, I don't know if they've received them. anything so far on that.

But that's that. Also, it was kind of strange about a few days later, former South Carolina Solicitor Randolph Murdole, the third, passed away. Which, you know, probably has nothing to do with it. Who knows, but as strange. Maybe it was stress. I don't know.

Could have been. Could have been? Could have not been? We don't know. Yeah, exactly. So part of the reason, allegedly, an opinion-oriented-wise, is that the reason why people have opinions on this is because, number one, the murder

victims were a shotgun and an AR-15. Paul Murdahl, which was the son, the one that was allegedly involved in the boating accident that killed Mallory Beach. He was shot with a shotgun. His mother was shot with an AR-15 assault rifle. I'm not even going to say assault rifle, sorry, AR-15. But I'm just saying why would anyone ever want to do that? shoot him like what happened that would want somebody he was driving he was allegedly driving a boat

yeah and nothing ever happened supposedly because of his family ties what was he doing when he was driving the boat chad well we don't know 100% you can't say that i mean allegedly he was drinking everybody was supposedly drinking everybody was supposedly drinking um there are rumors and uh rumor mills out there that, you know, did he get a breathalyzer? Did he even get tested for alcohol at the scene of the crash?

We don't have any information on that. Many people, many rumors are going out there. Many things say that he did not. Nothing. Yeah. He was not tested for anything. And look, the big thing around this is that obviously his family is one of the most powerful families in South Carolina.

And a lot of people believe, and they believed it well before this, it was in 2019, many people believed and had opinions that this case in particular was being treated absolutely unfairly because of the family's ties in the legal system. And so nothing happened. That's what we've got to get on the table. But we also have to be, you know. I almost feel like you need to go back and tell the story in your, the story in your own words now that you've read the report. Tell them what happened.

Well, I told them what happened. Well, I told them what happened. The boat crashed. Allegedly Paul Mirdall was driving. They were on that boat all parting, right? There's a bunch of people parting. The boat hit a pylon and she died. And the result of that.

Because during the crash, her body flew out of the boat. Yes. And it took more than a week to locate her body to even find her. Yes. And so the big stink, though, was from what everyone has said and all the rumor mills and not just rumor mills. I mean, look, man, in South Carolina, especially in low country and smaller towns, and especially even further of that as towns with people with money, people know things. I mean, they don't, people know prosecutors, they know law enforcement agents, they know everybody.

And from what has been told, and this could be completely false or wrong or whatever, so, you know, I'm just saying this is the rumors, and allegedly this happened, he never got tested for alcohol, at least on the scene or otherwise. Now, he did get indicted. But he did get charged. He got charged. In April of this year. Right.

But what do you think happens? Because they never thought he was ever going to be charged. There was so much pressure on this case. Three years later. Yeah, there was so much pressure on this case. It was almost like someone had to charge him because, you know, I mean, it almost looked too obvious of favoritism or, you know, the good old boy system. That's what a lot of, you know, the good old boy system is what's really many people will leave in fear. it could be playing into that whole situation.

So, so anyway, so then, so then you hear that, you know, you hear that these, this son, Paul and his mother get murdered.

And the thing is about, you know, getting murdered is, well, people get murdered every day, but the reason why this was so weird is because of what happened. Prior to that, right?

You know, we hear about murders all the time. But this one is just very suspicious because things happened based or based not on prior things that were happening. And things were going in the go right now. Like, you know, he was getting indicted. Everything is ready to go. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, finally, after three years of trying to get this guy on trial or even anything happened to him is finally going to happen, right? Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it was leading up to it. And then all of a sudden, he's found murdered. So, so. And he's prominent. So, so here's the scenarios of what could be, um, okay, well, a lot of people's questions be, well, okay, so he's finally indicted. Why would they murder him then? I mean, if you want justice, if you want justice, the right way, especially if you're,

and by the way, I've heard, you know, allegedly the other family was not necessarily a, a not wealthy family. They're prominent too. Well, not as prominent as the Murdaws, but they still weren't, you know, poor or they weren't whatever. So, you know, and they were. Even if I wasn't wealthy, if I was poor and my daughter got like slung off a boat and I thought that, you know, somebody should be responsible. I would be fighting for that too. Yeah.

But we're not also saying that the, and by the way. No, I'm just saying if it was my daughter. We're not saying that the family of Mallory Beach had anything to do with this. We don't know. That's not what I was saying at all I know murder but I'm just saying if somebody was killed in a boating accident

that I felt like somebody was intoxicated I would like want something to be done no matter what if I was prominent not prominent anything but anyway so I guess a lot of people were like well why would anybody if just for example if someone did

if this murder if this murder had anything to do with what happened in 2019 A lot of people question, well, why would this have anything to do with that? Because, like, he was just indicted in April. Finally, we get an indictment, right? Now, the one thing that I don't understand about it, and it's the one thing, a lot of people were saying, well, they didn't believe, even though he was indicted,

they believed that he was going to get off regardless. And especially if the rumors are true that he didn't have DUI test and he didn't have any kind of alcohol test or any that stuff. if he didn't, it is very, it is extremely hard to prove that someone feloniously killed someone. Exactly. That would, at that point it would just be an accident. And I'm just thinking about putting a boat on land. Like if somebody caused a huge car accident and killed somebody in another car, what is the first thing they do? Well, they give you a breath liser.

They do all that stuff. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's a number one thing. So I just think as odd if that is the case, why would they not do that? Because I guess because his family was prominent, maybe, maybe somebody was mad about that. I don't know. But I'm just saying that's fishy to me. Yeah. That they would not be like doing, like, if that really happened on a boat or a car, you know, they're not going to not do that.

Yeah, I want to know, I'm just looking up real quick. if there's any evidence that he ever got an alcohol test or a breathlesser. Yeah, that's a very important part of this case. Because I'm telling you guys, while Chad's looking this up, like, rumors are going on all over South Carolina. Like, this is big in South Carolina and it's even big national. Like, when it's big on other, like, national news, you know it's like a big thing. Yeah. So it's pretty big.

So right here. Let's see. There we go. So it says law enforcement officials and prosecutors came under fire from South Carolina Media for the handling of the case in 2019. Paul Murdole, and this is code into the Augusta Chronicle,

Paul Murdole was never given an alcohol breathalyzer test following the crash according to South Carolina Department of Natural Resources. He was not handcuffed following his direction, indictment, it has never once spent one second in jail. His book and photograph was taken in the courthouse hallway in his own clothing. He was out on a personal recognous bond of 50,000 at the time of Mallory's death. Public opinions about Paul Mardall and his prominent family have been strong following the fatal

boat crash. Beach went into the frigid water upon impact of the crash and her body was not found until several days later, prompting public concern and outrage as officials and volunteers searched day and night to recover her body. So no. He was never given a breathalyzer or alcohol test whatsoever. So we're right. So we don't have to say allegedly.

He was never given that. So, and I'm just asking you again, what is the routine, like, method if you know you're going to get in a boat accident or a car accident because they're both the same thing. You can get a DUI in a boat just as easy as you can in a car. get a DUI in a boat without having a crash and kill someone. Yeah, and I'm just saying... And that happens all the time. Oh, yeah, because people are more out to, like, drink and boat because they think, you know,

it's not the same. You don't have, like, laws or whatever, but it is. Yeah, I mean, look, I challenge any of you. Go out on your lake, especially if you're in South Carolina. I know South Carolina, you know, especially the game wardens here. Oh, yeah, they're straight here. Yeah, if you go out on the lake and you want to get hammered and you're driving that boat, yeah, you're going to jail.

Like, there is. is no difference in and and you actually by the way have a I would I don't know the numbers but I would say you probably got a five times more likely of a chance of going to jail for DUI in a boat here than you do in a car any day because you have a you just have a lot more agents or officers on the water in terms of people on the water than you do everyone that's driving and officers here but in both cases if you're in a fatal accident the first thing they usually do No, it was fatal at the time, but they knew that she was missing. Yeah.

So that should have been, like, I promise you, if it was me or you or anybody else, and 99% of a chance, we would have been breath laws. And look, if these kids, if they were intoxicated, whatever. Or however old they are. Yeah, however the old they were at the time. If they were intoxicated at a time, you know, officers can tell on the least little bit. I mean, you're trained for that. Oh, yeah, they do the sobriety test.

They know, like, with your pupils, they know. Yeah. I'm sure if they had alcohol, they probably had, you know, cans or whatever in the boat. I don't know. I'm just saying, that's what it is. Allegedly, and I have to look this up to. There were witnesses that everyone was drunk. I mean, I just think, okay, let's just say she was drunk too, and she was thrown out of the boat.

Well, you know, when you're drunk and thrown out of a boat, are you going to even have consciousness? You know, I'm just imagining putting myself where she was. Well, it depends. I mean, if you got, all she has to do is get hit in the head or whatever. And you're unconscious. I don't know. Unconscious, yeah. So all these news articles are coming out.

The Murdole murders sled pouring through digital records tied to Alex Murdo. Okay, Murdole murders. Prosecutor with major conflict. conflicts of interest still not stepping away despite concerns. South Carolina State Law Enforcement Agency issued statement on the murder-all murder. So this was five hours ago. The lead investigative agency on the high-profile double homicide that took place last week issued a statement Tuesday afternoon providing its first public comments on the ongoing investigation into the crime.

What are they saying? The release also provided an initial timeline related to law enforcement's role in the yet-to-be-solved mystery. The graphic killings, which police believe took place from 9 and 9.30 p.m. Eastern Day. Daylight Time last Monday, June 7, 2021, claimed the lives of 52-year-old Maggie Myrtle and Paul Myrtle. Which is Mom and Son. The Murdaws belong to one of the Palmona's most influential families, as we're talking about. According to this statement provided on Tuesday by South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, the investigation into these savage slayings began at 10.07 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time last Monday, where Alex Murdov...

Oh, so this is an hour after they think they were slain. Yeah, so, yeah, they're saying that they believe... So why did Dad go out there? If they were like, were they going on a hunting trip? What was happening before that? I don't know. Maybe he was planning to be there. Maybe he was going to meet them.

I mean, that's... That could be, yeah. I mean, that would be the most likely thing. But, so anyways, according to the statement, the investigation of the it began at 1007. Maggie has, Maggie's husband and Paul's father, a prominent local attorney, placed a 911 call, which was routed to Collinson County. During the call, Murdole indicated to the Collin County Dispatch Center that he had

returned to the family's property located at 4147 Mozel Road in Islese Road. But this is not their first. This is not their first property. This is their hunting. This is their hunting lodge. To find the bodies of his wife, Margaret, and his son, Paul. Deputies with the Colleton County Sheriff's Office immediately responded to location, at which point they discovered that Paul and Maggie had both sustained multiple gunshot wounds.

At 10.28 p.m., just over 20 minutes after a 911 call from Murdall was received, a sled was contacted by Colleton County Sheriff's Office. At that time, SLED assistance and conducting double murder investigation was requested at 1147 p.m. Agents from Sledd's various low-country regional offices began arriving on the scene. 20 minutes after that, Sledd's crime scene personnel were on the scene. Sledd's agents began working with Colleton County Sheriff's Office immediately to evaluate the crime scene and take the lead on the investigation. The statement noted. Sled crime scene agents began arriving on the scene at 12-07.

Crime scene personnel worked throughout the morning of June 8 to collect evidence and submitted to Sle's forensic lab, which immediately began processing and testing the evidence. Sled and release offered no indication as to what evidence it is reviewing in connection with a murder, although I, as this reporter reported... But we know more information now, which is kind of crazy. Well, this is five hours ago, but... Agency is said to be examining a variety of digital records and other information related to Alex Murdole, who placed the 911 call.

Murdole was identified very early in the inquiry by law enforcement and prosecutional sources as a person of interest. in connection with the slayans. However, he has reportedly provided police with an iron-clad alibi. Yeah, he wasn't there. Well, basically. Exactly what he was telling them. Yeah. What happened?

He found them and he didn't do it. Yeah. Is what you say. Yeah, attorneys close to Murdole family have told me that he is not a suspect in the case and is cooperating fully with SLED. These sources further claim that Mirdall's interview with SLED investigators last week was all about close.

in the book on him as any sort of suspect in the case. This person's sources has questioned those assumptions, however. Sled agents have been working with the case continuously since arriving on the scene, assistance of Colleton County Sheriff's Office. We continue to pursue all these investigations, certainly active and ongoing. And they also said we cannot and will not do anything that could jeopardize the integrity of investigation. Yeah, they're not going to tell everything they know for sure. So basically...

So they've kind of said that he's okay. They're, you know, he's not their prime suspect anymore. But this agency, this news, fit news, by the way, is saying that their sources do not necessarily believe what they're saying that he has an ironclad alibi or whatever the case may be. Now, I don't know. You know, to me, the whole thing doesn't make sense. Like, why would Alex Murdall, why would he kill them?

I mean, and if he does have an ironclad, Okay, let's just talk about it. What is it, what is this a career, his career? He's a lawyer. He's a lawyer. He's very prominent, right? Yes. And his son got into, their whole family is. Okay. I'm just saying his son got into some trouble, right? Well, not really because I mean, well, he did, but I mean, a lot of people think that he's not, he wasn't going to get in trouble. So yeah, but they've been dealing with this for three years. Maybe it's affecting something with the dad. I'm just, I'm giving opinions of what could have happened. I'm just saying if it could have. I'm just saying if it could. I'm just saying if it could. could have been the dad. Maybe this is the reason. Maybe it was so much on the dad that, you know, he's getting too much heat from different people. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, look, for me. I don't think that's what happened, but I'm just giving like plausible, like, what could have happened. Like, he was the first one that found them. And if they were, like, going, like, and what Chad's talking about where they were, I mean, this is like 30 minutes away from their home.

Like in the... It could have been further. No, I don't know. It was a ways away. It's in a like remote place. Like that no one would know they're there, except for the dad or anyone else that knew. Or anybody that was following them. Yeah.

I mean, the thing is, the thing about it is, is like, um, say for example that this has something to do with the night, the 2019 death of Mallory Beach. you know, the odd A couple odd things that matter to me is number one you had a shotgun and you had an AR-15. One was killed with AR-15. We have not even talked about that yet.

Oh, I did. I said that's what they were shot with. So they were shot with two different guns. Yeah, they were shot with, which by the way, doesn't mean that one person can't do that. One person can still shoot someone with two different guns. Now, the question is is that, would it be harder?

I don't know. I mean, not necessarily. If you're in the middle of a hunting lodge, you got a 21-year-old kid and you got a mother of the child, could you feasibly kill one of them

with a shotgun and then go in and kill the other one where they are? Because you could have both them around your shoulder, right? Could you just to make it look like it was multiple people rather than one? Because, I mean, that's the obvious. That is the only reason.

that you would kill two people. To me, I feel like the shotgun was there. And it was something maybe. Well, maybe. Maybe that's what they were going to use to go hunting with. Maybe. Maybe. But, I mean, but look, if, okay, say for example, if, you know, say that Alex Murdall is a prom suspect or whatever, the dad and the husband.

Like, why ever in a million years would you use a weapon from your own? hunting lodge. That would be the dumbest thing ever. Yeah, that would be. Because then that just automatically cast doubt on an outsider. But it's just weird that they were killed with two different, like major different

weapons. And so we have no, we have absolutely no information, but you know. No, I'm not blaming on anybody. I don't know who the murderer is. I get it. But what I'm saying is, I know, but what I'm saying is, is that you wouldn't, first of all, you wouldn't show up to a house to murder people.

and expect to use their guns or one of their guns. Like, it just doesn't make sense. So maybe they had the AR-13 and then they had a shotgun. Air-13. Whatever. AR-15. Sorry. You sound like Biden now.

A-R. Oh, Chad. I'm sorry. Oh, my God, I'm going to beat you. Anyways, AR-15. But no, but listen, let's not get too crazy deep in this. I just want to make a point that you're not going to show up to kill someone and use their weapons that's on the hunting ranch.

Oh, people do that all the time, though. But no. They do in murder cases. You wouldn't do that, especially on a damn hunting ranch. You're just not going to do that. Because, I mean, that just doesn't make sense. My point is that... But if you know the people, sometimes you will...

Yeah, okay. If you know the people. But what I'm saying is... You're going to, like, plot it. But as an outsider, you would never do that. Exactly. Were the weapons found near the bodies or anything? I have no idea.

I don't even know if they have a weapon. Well, they just known by the bullet casings, I guess. I'm sure they don't have the weapons. And I mean, that wouldn't make any sense. So, you know, where are the weapons is the big question. You know, you would have to dig in. Well, you would have to dig in to find out from other sources of the family of what guns were there, what guns were not. I'd like to know, like, what guns they had.

But that's not actually not hard because, I mean, you can look up registrations for what guns they own. Because obviously they're going to have guns if they're going hunting, right? 90% of chance you're going to have guns that are AR-15s probably to hunt and lodge. You're going to have a shotgun. Why would you have an AR-15 hunting? Well, just, Sherry, everybody has AR-15s, and you can actually hunt with AR-15, number one. But, yeah, I mean, if you're on a hunting lodge, of course you're going to have an AR-15 probably. You're probably going to have, you're definitely going to have a shotgun.

I mean, people shoot- Yeah, I would know about a shotgun, but I wouldn't think about like that. Well, yes, absolutely, AR-15. Why would, okay, if you're going hunting and you're going to go. Why would you want to do that to your phrase? You sound non-oh my God. You sound like you don't know guns. AR-15 is not automatic, Sherry.

I guess I'm talking about that automatic one. Yeah, well, that's not an A-R-15. Are you talking about the one we have? Yes, that's not automatic. Okay, sorry. But anyways, look, we're getting way, like, the only point I'm trying to make here is that

it's either two people or it's one person making it appear to be two people that's the only reason you would shoot with different weapons and it's almost in some ways it's almost too obvious but not necessarily the weird thing is it was on a hunting lodge

obviously they got guns there and I don't know but like I said I'm not blaming it on anything to happen in 2009 because I don't know, but it's just a really coincidental thing. A lot of people think it's fishy. Maybe someone saw that

as an opportunity. Because they know that it would look differently. And I think a lot of people feel like it's fishy is because, you know, going back to this is a prominent family and nothing's happened for three years. This guy has not faced anything for killing this girl, basically.

Well, allegedly. Oh, allegedly, sorry, allegedly killing her when he was intoxicated in a boat. so you know okay let's just talk about this for just a minute chad don't you know somebody personally that their son got killed and they went and killed them yes i mean that does happen so i don't know so i mean there is so many different ways you can look at this you know i don't know but it's just all ways you look at it i don't think it's i don't think it's just like oh this

girl got, you know, she fell out a boat and got killed and then they got murdered all a sudden. Like, that's too fishy. That's really fishy. It is. And then, I think they had not one, but two family members die within a week after this

happened. They said it was like from natural causes. I don't know. I know that the granddad and then there was somebody else, I think. It seemed like there was someone else. We read, yeah, we read somebody else died. So that's four people from this family

that are like croaking off all this sudden. Like that's scary. Like don't, don't wreck your boat and kill somebody. I don't know. Your mic is really loud. Sorry. I don't know. It's crazy.

And the thing is, at a time of, there's a lot of stuff out there. News of a potential obstruction of justice allegations tied to the boat crash, probed. tied to the boat crash. Shortly after the office of South Carolina attorney General Allen Wilson declined to respond to a Freedom of Information Act

from the news outlet from the case file. In refusing to release the file, Wilson's office cited an ongoing investigation. So yesterday, the Hilton Head Island Island Packett newspaper, quoting one of Paul Murdole's former criminal attorneys, speculated that the boat crash investigation is still open because it could possibly be related to the recently launched murder inquiry. After the story was published, though, Mallory Beech's family lawyer, Mark Tinsley, the lead attorney in the civil case, issued a statement related to the ongoing investigation on the boat case.

So there is a civil case going against the Murdals. And they did a statement on behalf of the girls' family. So the beaches have, so this was what the lawyer said, the beaches have every confidence and are hopeful that the Attorney General's office will continue to investigate and prosecute any in properties related to any attempts by any. member of law enforcement to influence the original criminal investigation related to the boat crash, Tensley said. As such, they support the Attorney General's decision and how they determine to move forward.

So basically what they're saying is that there are obstruction of justice things that are happening in the case and that law enforcement supposedly has been trying to hinder the investigation. I agree. But they had a statement

do the original case. Like, their first statement was very, like, sympathetic with what was happening. Yeah. What do you mean? Sympathetic? Yeah, they're like, you know. No, that was sled, though. No, I'm talking about the family.

Okay, well, explain what you're saying, because I have no idea. You don't know anything about that? No, what are you saying? That was not their first statement. Okay, I get it. Okay, no, yeah, as far as the murders go, no, I don't know. I was just reading about, there's an obstruction of justice case that is open. That's what I was talking about.

But I was saying their first statement was about how they were so sorry for them, they feel for them, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Like they were very sympathetic. I can't say the word good, but sympathetic in their first statement. That doesn't prove anything, though. I mean, it doesn't. I mean, would you know, like, I'm just saying, of course you're going to be. You're going to make sure of that.

All right. So let's talk about the way. Let's just talk about what people are talking about. Like, what are the who's behind the who? What do people think? Well, there's completely, the weird thing is that law enforcement is completely silent on this right now. Yeah, and I just hear a lot of... And the other strange thing is that they've automatically just called a prime suspect as Alex, Murdo.

That's strange to me. I mean... Why? Because that would be... It just is. That would be the prime suspect for any murder. Well, because his attorneys and his law firm or whoever is saying he has ironclad, ironclad alibi, and that, you know, he has provided that and he is no longer a suspect. According to Fit News, however, that they do not necessarily believe that could be true.

The news or the investigators? Fit News. Does not necessarily believe that. So Fit News. So we're going off. Fit News, like believe? Well, they're heavily involved in this case. Okay.

They're probably the most prominent news agency in South Carolina right now. That's behind it. And really, they're diving into this. So, yeah, you got to, I mean, if anybody is the closest to the case, they probably are. So, you know, for them to say, we don't necessarily believe possibly that this, he's no longer a suspect. But then again, I mean, you know, you listen to Sled's on statements. and they haven't said he's not. And I'm sure they have interviewed him like extensively, right?

Yeah, I mean, the thing about it is, is that I just, as an attorney, obviously he's an attorney. Obviously, his whole family's in the legal system. There's really not a lot of ways you can get away with murder nowadays. Yeah. And I'm just saying if I was the dad and I knew my wife and son were going to be murdered, I wouldn't be the first one finding them. Yeah, that's the other thing, yeah. Because you're the first suspect. Whoever finds them is the one that suspect.

You know, that's the first suspect. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, you've got to think, according to Sled, they believe the murders happen between 930 and 10. And supposedly, Merdahl, Alex Murdoch found them, what, 10, 1030. That's like an hour later. Yeah, but if he's a lawyer... If he's a lawyer, that would be the first thing you wouldn't do.

Yeah, planning on murdering his family. He's not going to do that. I wouldn't think. I mean, that would be dumb. Yeah, but maybe he's doing like reverse psychology. Oh, I'm a lawyer. Why would I ever do that? I mean, who knows?

I don't know. You would never do that. I would think if you're, but first of all, if you're an attorney and you got money, first of all, like, why would you do anything like that yourself, number one? But like even better, like. Oh, that would be a passion crime, I guess. And so that was also on, when did that happen Monday? So it happened Monday night.

So it wasn't a weekend. It was a Monday night. I guess the question is like, why the hell, I mean, why were they there on Monday night? I guess, you know, maybe they were chilling. But you know, the thing is, he's an attorney, which means Monday, Tuesday, they would have been back. That wasn't, that wasn't labor day, right? No, I know, but, I mean, attorneys usually work Monday through Friday, right? Yeah.

They were at the hunting lodge. On Monday night. Are you sure it was a Monday night? It was Monday night. I'm positive. Why would he be there on a Monday night? If you're in a talk of. Paul and his mom. Paul and his mom, who knows?

Okay, why did dad go up there? I don't know. That's a good question. Because if you're a prominent attorney, you're usually working Monday through Friday like major hours, right? Well, the thing is, is like, you know, here's the other question is was he calling them extensively and they were not answering?

Yeah, that's one I'm wondering. Maybe he was freaking out. Went out there, check on them. Maybe they had like death threats before this happened. Maybe, I mean, we don't know. All that would come out, though. But, you know, and the thing is, they're, you know, I, I, I, I'll put it this way. I will say this.

You know, with everything of the reason why they say that, hey, you know, possibly Paul Murdole wasn't going to be charged with a crime because of his prominent family. I would think that if anything, well, I would know, but I'm not even saying that, but I'm saying, I would say, if anything, if anything, if it is somebody else besides the Murdalls, they're damn sure going to make sure they find those people, is what I'm saying. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, I do.

But okay, let's say. That family has a lot of protection is what I'm saying. So what I'm telling you is if there's someone else did it. Arrange that, they're going to make sure they were like really good at it. Right? Is that what you're saying? Absolutely not what I'm saying. Oh, damn.

I'm on a different wavelength. What I'm telling you is that if it's not anybody that's connected with that family, right? If it's not the family members, if it's not out of it. Alex, if it's not one of the other family. That's what I'm talking about. What I'm saying? If it's not one of them, well, why let me finish? If it's not one of them, then they're damn sure going to find whoever else it is.

I mean, they're not going to protect other people. But, you know, and that's why I was, you know, it was actually kind of a little bit surprising when they named Alex Murdall's, the suspect, because of the prominence of the family. But if it's a vendetta against them. I get it. But what I'm saying is. These people can be really smart, too. And try to get away with murder. trust me that would be the that's what I'm saying to me that just seems like the most plausible reason

I just don't see especially I mean unless you just you know hated your wife and hated the whole situation and you felt like it was a great opportunity but here's my thing I don't know if you want to say though at the same time if you want to say that this this other family allegedly could have had a um a vendetta against them why the hell would you have done it before any case ever even happened I know when he is finally getting indicted or what Why would you do it before? After three years, you're finally going to get some kind of like closure into this case. Possibly.

But maybe they knew. Maybe it would have been too obvious, though. Yeah, maybe they knew that things could have happened to him. Yeah, if he would have got let go and then he got killed, that would have just been too obvious. Yeah, well, I would have, like, if I were the family and I had that much, I'd be like doing it after. Just saying, I'll be waiting for the court to, like, do their thing. Yeah, it's a weird It's a weird situation

It is a very strange murder But all I know is I've heard You know, us having a South Carolina Travel Company or not company But website and all that stuff in South Carolina We hear a lot about what happens in South Carolina We hear it from all over to state about everything Good and bad

Even though we're good website But the thing is We hear everything We hear a lot of stuff And I've heard it about about this for a long time, you know, three years since it happened. I heard all the rumors.

Yeah, I've heard of since. Yeah, I remember you guys talking about, like, even the boat thing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I've heard stuff for a long time. And so, you know, I've never known, obviously, what the truth is. And actually, when I, when I saw this and I saw this, this, this murder happened, I was like, I connected immediately. Yeah.

And I was like, oh, my God. There's something up with this. This is not right. This is not just a normal murder where. two people were just killed. They were killed for a purpose and a reason. Would you not think? Okay, well, okay.

So it's either opportunistic, which means if you're looking at an opportunistic murder, you would think that would be closer to the family, meaning like, you know, someone sees this as like, okay, this would make sense if these two people died because of everything has happened, right? This would make sense to where it don't come back on me, if that means sense? Right?

So say that Alex is this prime suspect, right, the Murdole guy, he's like, oh, this makes complete sense right now right because it's not going to come up. They're automatically going to think it has to do with them. Yeah, with a boat accident. But at the same time, I don't also understand why if you were on the other side of this, why you would do it before a case even happens. And obviously, like we both talked about like why we think mom got murdered. It's because mom was a witness there no matter what.

So I Okay, do you believe they were going after son? Yeah, I think they were going after him. Well, I mean, well, let me rephrase that. That's if this has anything to do with 2019. If it has anything to do with 2019, yes, they were going after him. And, you know, it was unlucky and unfortunate that his mother was there. Because obviously you can't leave her as a witness.

Yeah, a lot of people think that she was just like an innocent. You can't leave her as a witness though. Yeah. Obviously. But. But. Also makes me think, even if you can't leave her as a witness, you know, did she die because she would have obviously recognized whoever it was? Well, that's the same thing as a witness.

Because you could also spare, but you could spare someone. Kill the son, right? You could kill the son, spare the mother if the mother had no idea who you were. Yeah. So anyone that came and done that, if they're going to spare mom, they didn't give a crap about her life. no matter what, because they killed her. Yeah. They didn't spare her.

But what I'm saying is that it goes more towards like, would she was, to me, it seems like it was like, yeah, we need to, I don't know. I mean, on a little bit, I'm just saying she could have possibly recognized whoever it was. Yeah, that could be a legitimate reason. Because they could have left her alive if this was some random ass person that was not even involved in this. I don't know.

They would have left her, they could have left her alive. They would have got out. They would have got in, killed him, unless they encountered her first. Then that's another thing. But who knows. And thinking about the shots, like, we don't know who was shot first or second or whatever. But to me... But it was multiple gunshots.

So here's the other thing, too, about this, is I'd heard a story, and I'm not even going to go about who's told me or any of that stuff. I just want to tell a story about this. So I don't make sure you understand that. But we blurt out, like, whatever. Whatever, Chad. I'm the one who started this. I know, I'm making sure.

No, I'm making sure. I'm talking about another story. Okay. But there was another story. Sorry, there was another story that, you know, and it is done differently. You know, in places with money, because look, there are, you know, down in the low country, there is a lot of money there. There's a lot of poverty, but there's a lot of money. There's money everywhere.

No, but not like there. There is. There is, but not like there. And especially with the law, and we know that first time. Absolutely. The law is crooked. Yes, but what I'm telling you is there is a Not talking about police.

There is a good concentration of There's a good concentration of a lot of rich Ritzie and rich people down there. And the thing about it like South, especially the southern states and stuff like that. And we see it on both sides. Not just like if you're a conservative or Republican. Look, you see it as happening in Democratic states

and cities right now. They're allowing lawlessness because they have the power to do that. Same thing with the other way. Like, anybody that has power can allow or disallow whatever they want. But what I am saying is, is like there was another incident to happen a few years back down in the low country that someone pissed off somebody and he was standing out on his deck and he got shot in the face from the woods with a rifle or whatever,

sniper rifle, whatever the case is. Never been no leads on that. And this guy has gone. It's probably a professional hit. I'm not talking about like, someone that was pissed off and was just going to go kill him. Because, by the way, professional hitman don't just show up at places and shoot you right in the face. Risk.

I mean, professional hitmen are going to wait for you to come out and they're going to kill you. And you're not even going to see it. And believe me, there are professional hitmen. There's tons of them. Like, I was watching a show the other night with this dude that was in jail. That was a professional hitman man for, like, the mafia and stuff. Like, he went through and, like, he had no, like, he didn't. not care. Like he had no emotion

about killing people. But he's also not dumb. But he's also not dumb either. No, well, I mean, he's already in jail and everything. But he had no emotion about like how and why he killed people. Okay, but here's my thing. So I'm just saying they still exist. I believe these people. I believe hitmen still exist. Well, of course they do. Yeah. They're everywhere. But some people don't think that. People get arrested all the time. Everybody knows that. I never thought that. I never thought that before ever. Oh my God. Sherry. Sherry, hitman or everywhere. You could go find a hitman in this town. I mean, come on.

Oh, why? Have you found one for me? No, but God almighty. What I'm telling you is that you can find them in every town across the country. I did not know that. I thought that was like a mafia thing. No, it's a everybody that has money thing. If you have money, you can find any hitman anywhere.

Okay. Well, I'm just saying. But you can find even better hitman the more money you have. That's, I guess, my point. So, so leading to what I was saying, though, is that these, Paul and Maggie Murdole were murdered execution style with multiple gunshots according to both. No, not just, we don't know what we're, I mean, there were some in the head, but I think it was multiple, multiple gunshots. And there were execution style? What does that mean?

Well, it just means point blank range. And there was multiple shots. It wasn't just one shot you're dead. It was multiple shots. And it was on both bodies. And to me. To me, that stands for passion. Yes.

Yeah. High five. Well, you just said the right thing. It does. If you're a hit man, you're killing them, you're done. Yeah, you're done. But when you're hitting somebody close range like that multiple times is a passion crime. Somebody knows you.

Yeah, I agree with that. So it's not somebody that is just like all of a sudden came up to their land and said, oh, we're going to kill somebody or whatever. No, it's somebody that knew these people. This was out of passion. And so that's where I get with. the Alex Murdall thing. It would just, to me, it would be even weirder

if they had just this ongoing issue that he cared so much about killing his family that he'd be that passionate about killing him now with all this shit. It just doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't, that doesn't make as much sense to me. I know it doesn't, but it could be that.

We don't know that. We can't rule it out. I'll tell you right now. This guy's, okay. And I'm not, I'm not clear in his name, I'm not trying to. I'm just saying this guy has been an attorney. He's been in a prominent family for years.

He's had a very successful reputation. What kind of people like him? What kind of attorney is? I have no idea. But he's had a successful reputation. He's liked by a lot of people. And that doesn't necessarily mean anything either. But what I am saying is a lot of times to turn people to turn someone from a successful attorney, a family man, whatever.

It has to be something passionately. Yeah. It would have to be something just like, oh, my God. To turn someone into a murder that is typically not a murderer. Exactly. It's something really passionate. Well, it's just like I was watching this murder case the other night. I swear to God, Chad.

It was a very prominent, like, professor for a prominent university with his wife. And it ended up, long story short, he killed his wife. And you would never suspect him. And he thought he could outsmart the law. I'm not saying that the dad did it or anything, but I'm just saying the program I watched. Yeah. Like, I never would have suspected the husband. been like the law professor guy

or the professor guy ever. By the way you know the Beaches family, Mallory Beaches family, you know obviously they've been going through a lot of hurt. They could have very well not had anything to do with this. But it just seems like you know, I do know a particular

instance of someone's son dying and this and this particular instance, this dad eventually, he got off of it basically. And that's That's what pisses people off even more. But don't say, like, say, like, exactly what happened. His son got murdered.

Well, I'm not going to, yeah, his son got murdered underneath a truck, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And they charged them with, like, a very minuscule charge, I believe it was, like, some stupid shit. And, and then, you know, I think it was not even a month later. The dad came in, found him in a store, and shot him in the face. Yeah. Right in the middle of the store. Because he was not good with what they did.

This guy was 21 years old. He's like, you know what? If you're not going to take the law in your hand as I am. Yeah, I mean, it goes back to Wild West days. Yeah. You know, you screw someone over. And sometimes, that's, you know, that's a lot of people have been talking about too, an eye for an eye. Yeah, well, I mean, if you screw the wrong people.

I don't know. If you screw the wrong person over, it will, it can eventually catch up with you. And I believe, you know, I don't know. I don't know what the outcome of this. I'm very curious. I just hope You know I don't think like

If it has anything To do with a 2019 thing That shit will be found out That will be found out quicker than anything Unless Well Yeah hopefully

Unless Unless Look I'll put it this way I'll put it this way If in my opinion If it has to do The 2019 Daughter

Killed thing In the boat It would If Anybody with that family actually physically did it, right? If they allegedly or not allegedly. Or hire somebody.

Or hire somebody? No, no, no. Not, no, no. If they did it personally, they will be found. It will be caught. Yeah, because most people that are first-time murderers are going to leave some kind of something behind. Yeah.

But if they have the money to hire a professional, then you're probably, it would be very tough. unless you're a dumbass. That's the difference. Like murdering someone and getting away with that versus hiring someone, you have to get away with the hiring part

more so than the whole murder part. Exactly. And sometimes you got to, like I've seen a lot of cases where even the person that was hired to do it turns themselves in. You know, you can't really trust that person either. Yeah, they probably paid them 500 bucks.

No, I don't think it was like that. But I'm going back to like the way they were shot, execution style. Yeah, and two guns. The two guns don't make sense to me. It was passion. Because I just, you know, but even two guns, like even if you hire a hitman, you're not going to have two people. Yeah, it was somebody that knew them, I think.

Probably. That's my opinion. And it could have been one person. Yeah, it could have been one or two people. But if it was one person, they wanted it to look like two. Yeah. They were trying to stage it. Yeah, that's the only reason you would have killed them differently.

Yeah. but even even that I mean even if it was like like I'm saying I mean it doesn't make sense to me even still like especially if you involve like if you if you want to try to get away with the murder like you don't you really like you want to involve the least amount of people I guess you know like if you have two people in this shit

then you have two chances of getting caught seriously yeah so that's why I'm thinking it's one person it might be one person I think it's one person but it's still just so darned confusing because on either side, they don't have reasons why they should have done that that we don't know about. That's not true. Well, you mean either side?

Well, I'm just saying. Well, of course you have a reason on one side, but that doesn't mean they did it. Well, the same with the dad. Maybe he's getting heat. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think they both have, like, reasons. But it doesn't make sense why you would call it in 45 minutes after this happened.

Well, especially being an attorney. You know that the medical examiners are going to be able to turn. Well, how far did he live from there? I have no idea. I don't know where exactly their house was. I mean, it wasn't that far. I mean, whether it be 30 minutes, an hour, hour and a half. If it's a hunting place, it might have took him 45 minutes to get there.

Good been, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but what I'm saying is. But why would he show up right after they get murdered? I don't know. Why would you ever do that if you actually did it?

I don't know. That makes no sense. But maybe it's supposed to be purpose. I don't know. No. But that's why we did this podcast because it makes no sense at all. Like everywhere you look at it and how you look at it, like it just nothing adds up. But we know.

Well, there's basic things that if I'm an investigator and I'm sled and I'm going in this scene, there's a lot of very quick ways that you can determine who did it if it was had to do with anything with the Murdall family or, you know, this father and the husband. I would think like especially two guns, especially being a hunting lodge, they got a hunting lodge. So obviously a lot of their guns are, you know, they're known to have guns. But this is in a rural area. It doesn't matter.

But you can go back and look at registrations of firearms, all this shit. Now, if you don't find the firearms, right, you can get shell cases, but you still got to find the firearms. So whether they do a search warrant of the house and so on, so forth, you've got to find the firearms.

If you never find the firearms, then it doesn't matter about shell casings because shell caneses mean nothing. So then from there you got to go back and say, okay, so we need an alibi from you, Alex, right? And we can verify

that with security camera, house, and we need to know what guns you own and we need those guns in our hands. Yeah, but there's ways. Obviously, if you have shell casings and you take the guns, you compensate

Well, you would never... You know the shells and the guns are going to match. Well, look, if someone did a murder like that and you kept a gun, you're just a dumbass. You know what I mean? But guns are not that easy to get rid of. Yeah, you bury them in some freaking field. You know what I mean? And that's the thing.

It's like, they're not that dumb. Like, so I guess my point is, and that's probably with any hitman or anything else, like, whatever guns are, I don't think they'll find unless they were just stupid. If it was a hitman, unless they threw them out.

They're not going to use a registered gun. No, they're not, no. But it doesn't even matter about registration. It matters about

if they find a weapon they can match it with the casings. But even still, it's like, you're not like, like, for example, a lot of Chicago murders

or just random drive-by murders and show like this, a lot of them, when they get heat or whatever, they'll throw out a gun. And just throw the damn gun out the window. Yeah.

Cops will find it. someone to find it. Oh, we match the shellcases perfectly. A lot of these people keep the damn guns. And then the police will show up with their house because they trace this, you know, scenario. They trace a scenario back to their house. And they're like, oh, well, is this a gun? Yeah, there's a gun. Holy shit.

And then let's match the shellcation. But I don't think Chicago's that great. But I don't think they investigate like that. No, they don't. They don't give a shit about it. I mean, some of them do. No, they don't give a crap about the south side. But what I'm saying is, is that, you know, you got all this shit.

Like, if anybody's smart, they're probably. never going to find the guns. And then, so the only other thing is... And they could have picked up the shell casings. We don't know. But also a prominent South Carolina family. Do they have guns that are not registered? Okay, let's think about this, though.

So they were killed at what time? 930. 930 to 1030? And dad showed up when? No, they think they killed about 930. Dad showed up at 1015 and 1030. So... But he could have been on the way. Yeah.

That's true. But, you know, but then I... But if that is the case, and he was on his way during this time, that's not an ironclad alibi. But this is my opinion. How are you going to prove that you weren't there at 930, but you were there at 10.15.

1030. Maybe you can. Unless somebody had you on GPS or something. Possibly. But that's probably not the case. Well, most people have, like, people on GPS now. And you can't ping a cell phone because you know they were going there. If you're on waves or something.

It's just weird that he found him so freaking shortly, short time after. Yeah. It's kind of weird. unless he was planning on going there, right? But if he was planning on going there, then it just makes it a lot harder to prove one way or the other. But to me, like a family going for like a hunting thing is not in the middle of the week. Well, it depends.

I mean, they might have been keeping it, you know, it might have been a week-long trip they were planning. You know, like they said, they have taken digital records and evidence right now. They're from Alex Murdahl. And probably they're looking through Paul and the mom. They're looking through text messages, emails. everything, everything that they were talking about that night,

everything that was going on, they're going to probably try to figure out where exactly Alex Murdole was. But look, I don't want to put this on the Murdole because I don't know. No, no, we don't know. And he also has brothers and sisters. And he has brothers and sisters. We don't know where they were that night either. Paul.

Yeah, but why the hell would they kill him? We don't know why or why he wouldn't. But you also know that Mallory. But you have to interview them. Mallory Beach had a fiancé, I believe. Yeah. She had friends. the husband, I mean, come on.

Yeah, there is more, like, I get that. We know what makes more sense. Yeah, I get that. We're just trying to say the other side of it. Yeah, you got to just interview everybody, though. Yeah, we know what makes more sense. What makes more sense is that if your daughter dies and you think that this kid's going to get away with it, you know, do you take it into your own hands. But it also doesn't make sense that you do it before.

And also, it's almost too obvious. But maybe they did that on purpose to make it too obvious, you know? No. You would never do that. But maybe it was, like I said, maybe it could, it could have been an opportunistic time. If you wanted someone dead, you wanted to try to blame it on someone else that you could have done it. Yeah, like. Yeah, I'm just saying.

Yeah. I don't know. Someone that never would have think this would. This is freaking crazy. And I want to go investigate this crime. Well, there ain't nothing we're going to be able to do. I mean, we can get a FOIA request, which is Freedom Information Act. But, I mean, they're not going to look.

I mean, FOIA request doesn't really matter unless, you know. I would like to actually hear the 911 calls on FOIA and get those. And I'd just like to know, did they get, did they find any of the shells? Did they find, well, obviously they found the ship. No, they found shellcases, I believe. Yeah, because they would know the weapons unless they found the weapon, you know, the bullets inside them. Yeah, they just knew what it was. How did they know it from the shell casings?

Well, yeah, it would be shell casings. I mean, if it was 5, 5, 6 or if it was, you know, whatever. But I'm saying if they didn't have shell casings, they wouldn't know exactly what was shot. what the person was shot with unless they had shell casings, right? Yeah. Or they had a weapon. But also the weird thing is about an AR-15 is like, you don't necessarily, like, this is other things. Well, those are 5-5-6 and something else, right?

And 223. Yeah. But there are other guns that shoot 223 besides AR-15. But they knew is an arm. And there are other guns that shoot 556. Yeah. So they knew were the two weapons. They knew it was two weapons.

But they called it out as AR-15. You're not listening to me. Yeah, I hear you. So there are other guns. to shoot those rounds. Yeah. But they said an AR-15. They didn't say

whatever else shoots them. They knew the weapon. But the shotgun, you'll be able to easily tell, you know, with the pellets and shit. But AR-15 is a little different because you got a weapon

that other weapons shoot that round as well. So. But they knew for sure. Did they have that weapon there? I don't know. Yeah, that's like a... Which would be weird.

That'll be dumb as shit if that weapon was there. I don't know. That just doesn't make sense to me. And mom was shot with that one. Yeah, I think. And, yeah, and Paul Mirda was shot with a shotgun. Yeah.

Hmm. It's just crazy to even think about, like, my mind is just trying to wrap around, like, thinking about that night what happened, you know? Do you, like, try to go into there and figure out, like, try to, like, put yourself in that scene and see what could have happened? Well, I do that a lot of stuff. But it's just weird because this was, like, this was very close to South Carolina, and, you know, it is, and there's a long history of all this stuff.

I don't know what the case is going to be. We're definitely going to keep you guys updated on this as the details become available. But this thing's made national news. It's not just on local news. It's on Fox News. We've seen it on CNN. We've seen it on everything. I mean, it's kind of going across the airwaves.

And for good reason, because no one knows what happened. I am very curious to see what happens because. And the thing is, man, it's weird. Like in South Ghana with the, oh, God, what was her in? Samantha Joseph in case. When she got murdered by the black guy, that was a supposedly Uber. He was an Uber driver.

He just pulled up. He recognized she was waiting on an Uber. And he got her in a car and locked the child doors and wouldn't let her out and murder him. And it's sad that I don't even know his name. Yeah, because you don't hear about it. Like since then, that was what two years ago? Like that case has been quiet.

Yeah. And why does that shit happen? I mean, is it because prosecutors are politically leaning affiliation? Because I promise you, everything in the justice system has to do political affiliation. Politics, yes they do. And money.

A lot of, like, that shit is, like, freaking bullshit. I just, I think that it's not, like, true to the law. No. Like, we've seen it firsthand. We've seen the law be crooked in our own, like, eyes.

I swear to God, we have. Yeah, we know. But anyways, so, guys, that's going to probably do it, I guess. By the way, we're going to, soon, I guess maybe tomorrow, maybe Thursday, whenever. We're going to do a podcast on feral humans, right? Yes.

And so we're not going to go deep into what it even means. We're just going to say feral humans. Yeah. I've never even heard of that before. And these things are crazy. Not these things. They're people. But they're just people that are feral.

Yeah. So imagine a feral cat. Hopefully we'll have a good guest about that, but very interesting. Yeah. imagine a feral cat, but there are people. Yeah. Because we've had parol cats. Yeah.

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