Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Murdaugh Murders - Stephen Smith Cold Case Re-Opened

Episode Date: June 22, 2021

We have some new updates on the Murdaugh Murder Case in South Carolina. SLED has now said they are reopening a cold case from 6 years ago in relation to Stephen Smith, who died in the middle of the road in Hampton, SC that was then ruled a hit and run. What is the connection?

Welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I am your host Chad alongside my wife. Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hello. How's everybody doing out there on this fantastic Tuesday, June the 22nd. And that was someone new by Lupus Nocti and Zorro, which, by the way, Zorro girl is an amazing artist. I believe that's who it is. Zorro is the artist.

But anyways, we are coming at you with part two of the Murdole murder investigation and case tonight. our first episode has done really well. We've got a lot of downloads, a ton of exposure on that particular episode. And so we figure with new developments coming out, we had to kind of come and update you guys and give you the latest of what we have found out or what we're learning. The latest shocking news. Yeah, but it's. It was shocking to me. Yeah, it's crazy.

but yeah I mean there's there's really no telling all the details in this case we don't know what's really going on nobody does and and by the way as a disclaimer everything we say is allegedly we don't know we are not close to you know the I guess the sources of the case but we are really just talking about what is what is currently being reported and some of the things that we know just however we know so anyways before we get into that guys Make sure you go check out our website, investigate earthpodcast.com. You can find all of our episodes on the website for the most part. We basically have all of our episodes on the live player. You guys can go scroll through those and listen to those.

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So if you guys go and follow us, we will start posting. If you don't, then we're not. Simple as that. All right. So the Murdahl murders. Let's just give a brief overview of what the deal is. If none of you have heard about this or didn't listen to our last episode, we'll kind of just pretty much take you up to speed very quickly.

Paul Murdall was involved in a boating accident. which was back, I think about three years ago now. And this happened near Hilton Head, South Carolina, Buford County. And apparently he was with a lot of his friends. And he was with this specific person that was named Mallory Beach. And so. And at the time they were 19 years old at the time. Yeah, according to reports, a lot of people were appeared to be intoxicated or heavily

intoxicated in some reports. Yeah, they were having like an oyster. party before. What are they called the oyster? I don't know. Yeah. Oyster fry or oyster roast. Yeah.

Oyster roast. And so anyways, Paul Mirdall and this group of kids basically, they were 19, but I don't know about all of them, but they went on on this boat at some point, from what witnesses report, Paul Mirdall gunned the boat and hit a pylon or some sort of something. Yeah. And Mallory Beach was thrown from the boat and subsequently killed due to the accident. They didn't find her body till days or at least a week later somewhere around there. And so what the big stink came from this whole entire thing was that the Murdoch family is highly prominent in South Carolina as far as whether it be solicitors, judges.

For centuries. Like I was reading back their first major role. And in the Hamptons, it was not like a... Hamptons. Hampton County. Hampton County, whatever, not Hamptons, but Hampton County. It was more of a poorer county when this family came in. And they were more of a like, you know, boogey, I guess family.

They started in 1910. Well-to-do. Yeah, well-to-do boogie type family. But they first came in really big control of this county in 1910 with... Well, it wasn't just that county. They had Jasper, Bufurt. There was about four or five. Colleton, I think.

So they had a lot of legal authority in about four or five counties in low country. And so when this accident happened, you know, especially given reports and witnesses and all this stuff, Paul Murdole never was given a breath alkalizer. Why can I not talk? A breathalizer? Breathalizer. Alcat sensor is what I was trying to say. Okay. Paul Mardall was never given a breathalyzer.

According to reports, he was never given a, you know, filled sobriety test. There was nothing. There was no type of test given to Paul Mardall during or after the incident. And, you know, who knows why? But what I can tell you is that the Sheriff's Department there recused themselves from the investigation because they felt like it was a conflict of interest, which you got to give, you know, you've got to tip your hats and that. in that form at the same, you know, in that same time. But from also reports we've heard through the Great Fun, allegedly, there was someone

that showed up at this accident scene that night that was, should have never even shown up at an accident scene like. I'm talking about like a high commanding officer. Probably because they knew. In this department. Yeah, they knew him. Yeah, they knew him very well. They knew all that.

Yeah. And so, you know, if it was me, if I had to just guess what happened then. night or just even like contemplate and this is all allegedly but you know I would think like if I was if I was in a high profile family that I had deep connections in the legal system and I realized that I just crashed a boat and I'm drunk and someone is missing right I'm probably going to make a call somebody and say hey you need to get whoever here to save my ass yeah and so anyway so then there's multiple reports that a high ranking officer showed up there. Like I'm talking

about it was a, it was no one that would just show up randomly to stuff like this. And so they never gave him a retthalizer and they never gave him a filter sobriety test. They never did any of this stuff and they basically let him go. Well, this was a big stink for years. I mean, because this happened three years ago.

And then so it was due to under pressure or whatever the case may be, but you know, as of April, Paul Murdole was indicted on felony charges for the death of Mallory Beach. Now, the thing about it is is that you would think, you're like, okay, well, well, he was indicted. Yeah, they're, you know, they're not, they're not unjust.

But here's the, here's the problem with that. I think some of the charges they indicted them on was like something to do with, I think there were charges related to alcohol and to death. So like malicious death by vehicle or not malicious, but whatever it is, whatever that charge is, you know, death by vehicle due to alcohol or intoxication or whatever. So there were those charges But the thing about that is is that None of those charges will ever, ever

stick. Because there was no breathlizer, there was no alcohol, there was nothing. And I think anybody looking from the outside end would obviously see that. Right.

So although he was indicted, was he really going to get In trouble or get anything? Probably not. He was probably going to get let off. And some other rumors. And that started from that night. Right.

And remember this place, I guess, is a really small community where everybody knows everybody and a lot you know everyone knows who this family is well there were rumors being spread too that you know paul at the time was 19 he also has an older brother named buster and there are a lot of rumors going around that buster used to give his ID to paul to purchase the alcohol so i thought that was really interesting and this is just the rumors going on in the community it's just hearsaying you know allegedly that's what the rumors are.

But I thought that was really interesting that Buster has been giving the ID for alcohol. So Buster must have been the older brother is what it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, if you look at the pictures, Paul Smaller,

he appears to be younger. But, you know, and here's the thing. It's like, obviously, a community is going to question when things like something like, I mean, you know, you look at Mallory Beach. I was looking at pictures of her today. and beautiful girl.

Very, very pretty. She had her whole life ahead of her. Oh, yeah, she was beautiful. And no matter what, I mean, I think the big thing here is, and why there was so much pressure on this entire case and why there were so much media, well, what the problem was there really wasn't a lot of media coverage.

There was a little bit. Not until they got double homicides when it really hit the news. Yeah, but like why wasn't it more media coverage when this happened? because it sounds like a conspiracy. You know, and when I say, and by the way, I know a lot of you guys are listening to us that you've never heard our podcast before, we talk on this podcast a lot about conspiracy theories.

We talk about JFK murder, and what are the ultimate motives around that whole thing? Yes, we do talk about aliens and all this other stuff, and we evaluate, like, all the evidence that's coming out and whatever. But the one thing I always say is that conspiracies, according to the media, when you hear a conspiracy on CNN or, one of these news networks,

conspiracy, they try to make you think that a conspiracy is automatically a lie. But the reality is that a conspiracy, by definition, is a group of people

to get together to do something that's not right. And whatever that may be, that could be to get together and say, look, we got to protect this person because of this, because, well, we,

look, we have connections in this, we got to protect this person. And I'm not saying that happened. I'm just saying that would be considered a conspiracy. Right. But it was happening as far as rumors within the county, everybody had rumors going around about he was being protected because his family's so prominent here.

And they have been solicitors and prosecutors. But also a new part of the evidence that we learned that we didn't know in the first podcast is after this boating accident happened. And there was not a lot done, I guess, when he was arrested or, I don't even, was he arrested or whatever? No, he wasn't. He wasn't even arrested. I think that they took his picture that night. in the courthouse, like, four-year or, like, public area, they took his picture, but that was it, and then he went home.

So that's not typical of what they would usually do with anyone else that this happened with, right? They would take them in, you know, go through their procedures, whatever. So after this, since he didn't get a lot of, you know, didn't go to jail, nothing happened to him, he did start receiving some death threats. I was trying to investigate today, like, what were the death threats? Were they through the phone, Facebook? What were they?

But allegedly, everyone's saying that he started getting the death threats after this boating accident happened, that it was because of this boating accident is why he was getting the death threats. And the reason why I say that is because there's other things that we're going to lead into tonight. That he could have, you know, it could have been about that. But it was the death threats, his uncle said, came from the boating accident. Yeah. Yeah, there's a huge development in the case, guys. And we'll go ahead and just kind of lead into this right now because it is,

you know, and we'll talk more about what we're talking about in just a second. But this development is probably one of the biggest. So I just happen to be looking. And by the way, I will say this, Fitznews, which is out of South Carolina, they're one that's heavily covering, you know, this entire story. We actually did ask them to, if anyone or one of their reporters that are close to the case, want to come on and speak on our podcast about the entire case, but we have not heard back from them.

So anyways, we have been using a lot of what they, have reported and so on and so forth. Right. And so a big... There's a lot of other news agencies that we're getting... New York Times. Everybody's reporting on this. It's still prevalent now.

Island packets. You know, the state. All the news agencies in South Carolina are reporting this. Well, and even major news agencies. Yeah. Outside of South Carolina are reporting. Yeah, I mean, this is getting big. This is hit national news.

But the biggest development of the case is that Stephen Smith's case was opened by the same agency that was investigating Murdoch murders according to Fitz News. Now, Stephen Smith, and I'm going to read the article that's on Fitz News, this is by Mandy Matney, but almost six years after her son, Stephen Smith, was killed in Hampton County, South Carolina. Sandy Smith finally got

the news that she's been hoping for for all these years. The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division has opened an investigation and to the death of Stephen Smith. Now, Tommy Crosby is a sled spokesperson, and Sandy Smith told Fitz News that SLED agents visit her home Tuesday to tell her the big news about her son's death.

Her son's case was being looked at with fresh eyes. She said that Sled Midlands team will be conducted the investigation. She was quoted to say, I've been waiting on this day for 2,174 days. Crosby said SLED opened the investigation based on information gathered during the course of the double murder investigation of Paul and Maggie Murdole. Yes. So this is coming up. different case six years ago. This murder case is coming up because of this case.

So obviously they have found as an evidence that they're reopening his case. And just briefly to tell you, well, I guess you're going to talk about that. No, no, go ahead. I was going to just say, like, what happened to Stephen. And apparently when he died, he was 19 years old or 18. And I think at the time, Paul was also, he was 18 and Stephen was a year older than him. He was 19 when he died. But he was found in the middle of a road.

I think it was road. I can't remember what the... Yeah, it doesn't matter. A middle of some country road. Yeah, and it looked like it was a hit and run. Down in the low country. Yeah, but he was in a middle of the road. Just, okay, and so what's weird is...

Well, the highway patrol was actually the one to investigate it because they investigated it as a hit and run. Right. Which is still to this day what it was classified, his death asked. But the way it looked and the way that the scene was, his mom, Sandy says there's no way it was a hit and run. The way they found his body, his... His right arm was dislocated behind his back.

He had some kind of huge hole protrusion in his right forehead. And he had some scratches and bruises on his right hand. But at the crime scene, there was no, and they were saying that maybe he got hit by a truck or a mirror of a truck. And that's what caused, you know, these injuries. But there was no glass. There was no evidence of it being hit and run. He was just out in the middle of the road. And she said, that is not like my son.

My son, if he saw a truck coming, he would have moved out of the way. He wouldn't have just got hit by a car. So apparently they're saying that he ran out of gas on his way home. So he was in a car. Yeah, he was in a car. And he ran out of gas. And they found him like three miles away from his car. And they're saying that he ran out of gas.

But she does not, the mom does not think that's what really happened. The mom thinks that he was followed by some kids that were in his grade because coming to the thing, it could have been a hate crime because a lot of people were saying that that Stephen may have been gay and it could have been a hate crime. It's also been told through his mom that he kind of had a fling with a boy around his age during that summer. During that summer, they were supposed to go on a big boating adventure with each other before he died. Oh, really? I didn't know that. Yes. And then as I researched further,

I found out that there has rumors going on that it wasn't Paul and Stephen having a fling, but it was Buster, his brother, and Stephen had a fling. Say that one more time? Like, are you sure about that? Yes. Okay, this is what you have read. This is what I read based on the rumors and the allegations. Allegedly.

On the allegations. I don't know this. Is that Buster, the older brother and Stephen had a fling and they were supposed to go on a boat together and mom thinks that when Stephen was coming home from school, he was on his way home, that they were coming back, they were Buster and Paul. Where'd you read this, by the way?

New York Post. Okay, New York Post. Yeah, this is a real, like, creditable, like. Yeah, yeah, I was just, no, I was wondering. Yeah. So on their way home, mom said that they were coming home. This is all the rumors she hears from this county

because this is a really small county, right? Yeah. So she heard they were coming home from a baseball game and they were behind him. And she feels like it was a... They who were behind who? Buster and Paul were behind Stephen. I got you. And it wasn't a hit and run. She believes that it was a hate crime.

And that they dragged him out of the car and killed him. And she knows the exact time he was born, but she does not know the exact time that he died. And she wants to know that. That's what's important to her. And what really ticked her off, though, guys, listen to this. This is kind of crazy. And this would make me mad, too.

Listen, when they came to our house Tuesday and told her, we're reopening your son's case, guess why they're reopening the case? Why? Because they have to look at her family to see if they could have caused these triple double homicides. Oh, homicide, yeah. Yeah, they're looking at her family. She's like, how dare them? That's like a slap in the face. Okay, that makes sense.

I mean, you put it in a good picture, though. So now we understand fully why this whole thing is, yeah, why the Stephen Smith is connected. Yeah, and it's funny because it says Fitz, Fitz News, says days after a shock and double homicide of Paul Murdo and his mom, Fit News published an exclusive report about three other deaths that have connections to the powerful South Carolina family. I know about another one, too. But we'll get to that one in a minute. I hopefully you don't read about it.

No, but yeah, I mean, so that's crazy. Wow. So mom is getting all these reports because, like I said, I keep saying, this is a very small, tight community. a lot of people are you know know the Murdox and they look up to them and a lot of them are fearful to come out and tell the truth so you know everybody knows everybody in this community and she was just asking for anyone that has somebody knows something and she knows that and she's been like praying for this evidence to come forever and she knows that no somebody

knows somebody and she's this you know they even gave a thousand dollar reward for any like evidence that somebody would have and their identity can be kept unknown, everything. She just wants to know what happened to our son. She wants to know his last words. She wants to know if he was in pain. Did he die right away? Did he fight? Because she feels like he would have fought back.

If it was just one of them, she feels like... And by the way, Sandy, if you're listening, because look, our last podcast is just going crazy. But if she is listening, we do obviously invite her on the podcast of anything she wants to say. in her son's defense, or at least, you know, in relation to this. Well, we'll definitely invite her on the podcast. And she said, you know, no matter what, he was just coming about his sexuality at the time. He was 19 years old. He didn't know anything.

But apparently... So does she say this, like, in something? She said, you know, of course, if her son was gay or not, she still loves her son, of course. But does she think he was gay? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And she feels like she heard rumors that he, there was allegations that he had a fling.

Not a relationship, but a fling. Which we don't know that. with and what appears to be, and it could be one of the Murdof boys. Which we don't know. Because, well, why would they open his case? Well, I get that. But, I mean, yeah, I mean, look, obviously they had a connection with each other.

Stephen Smith and Murdahl. And they're the same age, too. They had a connection. I get it. They had some kind of connection. But I don't necessarily, you know, I'm not going to see her and say they had a flame because we have no idea. We don't. That's what she's saying, yes. Well, that's not what she's saying.

That's the rumors that she's heard. Oh, I got you. She talks about the rumors, but no one will come forward and tell the truth because they're scared and intimidated by this family is what she feels like. You know what I feel like is, and this is just an opinion based on we've seen this type of situation happen before. I mean, I don't want to say what I want to say. We've never shied away from saying what the hell we want to say on this podcast. But, you know, when there's a lot of power involved in anything, they're usually. usually thing, some crazy shit usually happens around it.

I mean, regardless of whatever that is. You know, and a lot of that is because we don't know, but I'm just saying a lot of it is because of maintaining a reputations, you know, especially when you're in such a prominent type thing. Now, the Stephen Smith thing, I have no idea. Obviously, there was a connection there. Obviously SLED has revisited that case after six years. And this is what pisses me off about law enforcement.

And we have a friend, and we won't mention her name, but she actually wants to do a podcast very soon on her son's death. But, yeah, I mean, law enforcement is so fast to just close the case based on whatever. I want to say something about what you're talking about law enforcement. Even the guy, the trooper that in this case is actually being, is through the highway patrol because it was hit and run, they think. But even the guy that was in very, investigating that night, the officer or whatever, he didn't even believe it was a hit and run

based on what he was seeing the evidence. That's what Sandy said in the article. The officer, yeah, the officer on site did not think it was a hit and run. And that it was being, what's the word? Manipulated. Yeah, or something. They were hiding a bunch of evidence, too. A bunch of evidence was being hidden.

Wow. And she knew from day one it was not a hint run that it was a she feels like a hate crime that happened to her son. And you know, and the thing is, I want to say this. Yeah, you're giving a lot of great information. See, this is why you're great at crime stuff. But anyways, the big thing for me is, is like, you know, we're just learning, I mean, well, first of all, I learned about this case three years ago. And I probably told you about it three years ago. And I don't know if you remembered or not.

I remember someone we know told me about the situation and told me their thoughts on the situation. Because when they heard about it and were like, this is some effed up stuff, especially being in that area, you know, it's weird. And the crazy thing is, is like, we only know the surface. Like, we know the very surface of everything we're seeing. It's almost like, it's almost like if you put it. a bear in a box, right? And the box is knelt down with like thin nails, but the bear will stay in there for a decent little while,

but eventually that bear's going to break out. When that shit does happen, you're going to know everything about why that bear's pissed and what's going on. And I think that no matter how part, look, I'm not saying anything about who's at fault or what, because we don't know. But what I am saying is that when you screw with the wrong damn people,

enough and enough people know about a certain thing, shit can happen. Yeah, and I'm going to say this too. And if enough people are fearful because they know you have all the strength in the world and you think you can get away with murder all the time or get away with things. I'm not saying get away with murder, but, okay, we know very powerful people that we've been kind of shit on too. And these very powerful people were willing, they were willing and did anything to make our lives miserable because they could.

Yeah. And a lot of people in this community fear this family. I mean, I read it. They fear this family. And that's why so many people are scared to come out and say anything. So there's all these rumors going around this community, but nobody's willing to come out and say anything because you're either fearful or they're on the Murdoch side. Murdoch all, yeah.

And keep in mind, we're only speaking through everything. we've read, right? Yeah, this is what I just read. I'm not saying that they can get away with murder. It's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying powerful families like that can. Yeah. I mean, if you think about there were solicitors, they were prosecutors.

Oh, and they, you know, they, it was funny because they were interviewing the uncle on good, good morning America, I think. He's like, well. And he said, I have no idea who would have wanted to kill it. Yeah, we didn't have any enemies or anything. Yeah, like, seriously? Yeah. you did have a lot of enemies. Not only did your nephew, like, kill this girl on a boat on accident,

but your whole family is prosecuted, like, people and put them in jail. Yeah, I mean, there's no telling how many enemies like that had. They probably have a lot of enemies. It's not just that family that, you know, the girl was sadly killed, but, you know, being a prosecuting family, you know, people are going to hate you and you prosecute them for something, you know? And by the way, just a disclaimer, we do have AR-15s and tons of guns. So you come and fuck with us.

It ain't going to end up. And we're not going to end up in the news as a victim. Just that why. I don't care who you are. Anybody that's listening. We're not going to be a victim. No, listen, I'm just speaking what I've read. That's all I'm speaking is what I read.

This is a very powerful family and many people are fearful of them. and that's why, you know, these murders are getting hidden. If it has to do with them, they're being allegedly covered up somehow, is what I'm saying. Oh, goodness. And, you know, I think Sandy Smith has been waiting for this day for six years. Well, yeah, but sadly, it had to come at Exedict. Exactly. It would have never, if, okay, let's just say, Paul and his mom never got murdered. Do you think this would ever have been in the news?

Probably not. None of it. But by the way, we also don't know any of, like, and keep in mind, and let's, let's re-for, like, let's make sure we are clear here, is that we don't know that this family is, because look, I'm not saying this family's bad, but I am saying that, you know, we've seen in many cases, especially over, yeah, when you have power, you have authority, and especially in smaller counties and places like that, you have authority in places. And, you know, one thing that really like just...

And this county is not a rich people with lots of rich people. That's what I'm saying. They're not affluent people in this county. If I remember correctly, Beaufort County, Sheriff's Department, if I am correct on this, it was either Beaufort or Colleton County. I don't remember which one it was. It was Beaufort, Colleton County. Colleton County, Beecher, whichever.

They recused themselves from this entire investigation based on their ties to the Murdole family. but yet they can go I need to look this up because this is a big well while you're looking that up I can say this even when them okay so the Murdoz were like solicitors for a long time

when this happened when this case happened he was not actually a solicitor well dad was the solicitor and then the dad so grandfather and then dad became one and then this dude with the last name Stone

he's now the solicitor today but he is allies with the Murdoch family. Wow. So they still have the power even though they're not the like solicitors or whatever. And they also have major law firms that incredibly the grandfather's law firm was wrongful death law firm. You think that's kind of ironic? No. He has a wrongful death law firm.

Yeah, I'm just trying to remember. I wish I knew. It was either Beaufort County or Colleton or whichever one, but I know they were accused ourselves from the investigation because of their ties to the family. And, oh, you must have my phone. I don't have your phone. Oh, I don't know. You have my phone.

I know. What did you take my phone? Because I was looking for mine. I was like, we're doing. Okay, Chad, you lost your wine and now you're losing your phone. Yeah. I've lost my mind as well. Yeah.

But anyways, it's one of these, this, I believe this story is probably going to go down in history. Do you want me to tell you about another crazy death that has to do with this family? That you read and it's allegedly? Yeah, go ahead. It's not, I mean, it is, it did happen. This is not allegedly. This is like the truth. This really did happen.

Okay, so this family's prominent family. So they have servants, right? They have people taking care of them. They have butlers. They have housekeepers, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, they had a housekeeper. I forgot her age, but she died in their house. And they were sued on a wrongful death of the housekeeper.

From what? From how? Why? It was a fallen slip case. So one of their housekeepers died in their house. Huh. So that was another. And I'll try to find it.

I can't remember where I read that. But she was like 50s or. or 60s, I think, and her family won the wrongful death lawsuit. Hmm. And she died. So I wonder on what basis it was a wrongful death. I don't know, but they said it was a slip and fall case, but I just wonder if there's more to that.

Like, gosh, I'm not trying to put things in my brain, but my brain is just going boom like I'm just wondering. Yeah, we're not going to get to any, what would you say, conclusion here. but we don't have to why we can just report on everything but this family has been among like deaths so often in the last four years

you know that you know they were person okay so these two boys before the boating accident they Buster and Paul were persons of interest in the Stephen Smith case yeah they were persons of interest but

nothing ever happened with it that didn't Of course it didn't happen But they were persons of interest I mean when you have a family That controls an entire four counties You know In a lot of ways

How the hell are you ever going to be a suspect of interest Or I mean you might be interest But you're never going to be a prime suspect This just all This all is And maybe the housekeeper was just like a You know an accident or something But I just think it's weird

Like in my family I don't know anyone that's ever been murdered beyond, you know, great-grandparents. I don't know anybody. Well, we don't know that person was murdered, which is wrongful death. I don't know. Or any kind of like wrongful deaths. Like my parents, you know, my family dies from strokes and heart attacks and stuff and cancer.

Yeah. Not wrongful death stuff. But this is what happens when power arises, you know. We've seen it. We see it in our government now. We see it everywhere. I mean, that's, you know, I mean, and that's one of the things I've talked about many times. on this podcast.

Yeah. If you listen through enough of our podcast, you will know that, you know, probably, well, this guy and this girl probably is more,

like we're not as much Democrat, especially with the way this is nowadays as we would be another form. Oh, and by the way, they were a Democrat family. Yeah, but anyway,

it doesn't matter. I just thought that was cool too. But listen. But my point is that, like, it's, it's one of those things, though,

that like, the amount of corruption and regardless of a Republican Democrat. Now always, it's always been, you know, Republican Democrats always been corrupt. But the one thing I've always said is like, yes, we do have corrupt police departments in this country. We do. We have corrupt law enforcement officers. We have corrupt sheriffs. We have corrupt departments. We have corrupt mayors. For example, the lesbian gay festival that just happened in

Florida that was hit by some old man that didn't know what the hell he was doing. Oh, yeah, they already assumed. But yet the mayor said it was a terrorist attack. Yeah. And I mean, is things the corruption on political levels but that dude was like in charge of helping the parade I mean come to find out that it was farthest from the truth it was not a hate crime it was not domestic terrorism but that's what I'm saying is like when you have power you can you can write your own story you know that's what you believe you believe you're untouchable not everyone but there are a lot of people to do you believe you're untouchable especially in a smaller community, a smaller county, stuff like that.

You believe you are the god of that place. And everyone serves you. You don't serve them. They serve you. Even though technically you are serving the people. That's what your job is. But they take it the opposite way. They believe that everyone serves them.

And when you get in that kind of power, you believe you're unstoppable. You're unstoppable. You're untouchable. And you believe nothing. Nothing can ever happen. And sometimes, sometimes when people believe that they are untouchable or unstoppable, there's someone that's going to prove to you and show you that you're not. Right.

Because they're going to go beyond the law, because if you own the law, they have to go beyond the law. They have to go above it. And let me just tell you, with Paul, too, I forgot to mention this. So I was reading into what his buddies thought about him and the rumors about him. So apparently the rumors about Timmy and all of his friends, I mean, not Timmy. Paul, and the reason why I say Timmy is because of this. So all the things about Paul is his friends have this little thing going on that he changes into an alter ego named Timmy when he drinks.

He changes into like this different person. Who said this? This is in all the stuff I was reading like New York Times, everything. That when he drinks, like he turns it and his friends call him Timmy when he's drunk. And he takes all of his clothes off and he gets in his boxers. and he's even done that on the boat. For some reason, he changes it into this, like, crazy Timmy person. Oops, sorry.

But I did read that, too. Like, he had to alter, like, personality or something. Yeah, alter ego. So I thought that was odd. Well, hmm, man. But I think that Paul knew his family had power. But I just wonder when he was getting these death threats. I wonder what kind of threats they were.

Were they Facebook? And who are they from? Who are they from? and it didn't have to do with his demise. From a forensics computer's perspective, because I know that very well. I know a lot of forensics type stuff, and so do you. But from a forensic computer forensics, especially standpoint, those death threats will easily be traced.

It doesn't matter where they're from or who they're from. It don't matter if you're on a VPN. You know, everybody always gets VPN. nowadays and they think they're just untouchable because you're on a VPN. That's the route in your stuff. No, in some cases, that's possible. And honestly, VPNs are very tough to crack, which is a VPN is a virtual private network. Now, I wouldn't think someone would be so dumb that they would send death threats.

From their regular network. From just regular network or regular profiles or whatever. And I would also hope someone wouldn't be so dumb. They would send threats even on a fake profile on their regular network because they can track you down so fascinating. but even beyond a VPN. Now, one of the things that SLED, which stands for South Carolina Law Enforcement Division,

and or all the Sheriff's Department and agencies are, I think SLED is over the investigation now. Now, as far as Stephen, Stephen's death. But now I think, now they're opening it with SLED, right? Well, not yet, because still it's Highway Patrol. Oh, okay. But what I do know is that all these cases, both the Mirdaw case and the Stephen case,

but especially the Mirdall case, case. SLED is not brought in the FBI. The FBI don't just automatically come in. Oh, you have to be, they have to be asked? SLED has to ask FBI to come in. Oh, I thought they just come in when they don't feel like they need to. No, SLED has to ask them to come in, typically. And the reason that as SLED or as a sheriff's department or whoever is this work in this investigation would want FBI to come in

is because FBI has a lot more resources as far as forensics, computer forensics, everything. I mean, you basically unleashed the entire power of the government. And by the way, if you listen to our podcast, the government listens to all of our shit anyways, have news for you. And they do this routinely. Right.

So, let me say, South Carolina doesn't listen to us routinely. Your state, wherever you are, don't listen to you routinely. But your government probably does. And so when you call in the FBI, man, they do this shit every day. This is like, oh, we listen to Airbus. conversations. We have an algorithm for it. We have all this. And so the fact that I am, I am curious why Sled and has not called them or has not called FBI for any kind of help. And I'm just wondering, so they're opening the Stephen Smith case based on evidence they found while they were

investigating the double homicide of Paul and his mother. So I'm just like, I'm really curious. What is this evidence? Like, you know, obviously. And by the way, this case has national news. Yeah. And not only that, say for example, that this Stephen, what's his last name? Smith. Stephen Smith. Say for example that this case is a hate crime.

It is related to hate crime. Well, technically a hate crime should be investigated by a federal agency. They do it all the time. If you're black and get killed supposedly because you're black. Oh, yeah. Mom was bringing that up too. That's a federal investigation. And it should be like homophobic people too.

Well, it is what mom was saying. Yeah. It always is. And it wasn't. And she felt like it was a hate crime. Well, because they classified it as a hit and run. It's not a hate crime.

But it wasn't a hit and run, she thinks. But now, now you have to. But there might be evidence saying it's not a hit and run and it was a hate crime. Maybe they found some. What kind of evidence would they find, though? Well, they already have all the evidence. And whatever happened that night, the evidence is going to be concluded and whatever. But I'm saying from investigating this double homicide, they came up with some kind of evidence, like good

enough to open Stephen's case again. So it has to be something substantial. Has to be something really good. Yeah, but you go back to the Sandy Smith with the Stephen of, or the mother of Steven Smith saying that she feels like the only reason it's been open is because of almost looking at them as a suspect

in the Murdoch crime. Yeah, and she was like, was a slap in the face. Which is crazy. Yeah. And, you know, that sounds the least, you know, honestly, that case sounds the least likely. I have no idea who these people are. But I'm just saying I would be pissed to. Like if you're coming to me acting like I'm a freaking suspect in the Murdoch case.

And yet you think that you're the Murdo. Yeah, you think that. Yeah. Like that would piss me off. That would too. Yeah, me too. But I am curious, though, as to why the FBI has not been called in. Is it because, like, do we, do we, and this is just a question.

Do we not know how deep that family's ties go? Because the only reason you wouldn't want the FBI to be called in if you don't want that, right? just saying. I'm not saying they don't want it. I'm just saying if you didn't want the FBI, then you don't want them to know something. Right. Whoever. Whoever it is. If it's a hate crime, usually

all the time, FBI is called in, right? If you conclude things is a hate crime? Yeah, that's a federal crime. But it's not even that. Just the fact that the whole

Murdole case and everything that's surrounding it and how much power they had in South Carolina and, you know, their Sheriff's departments are accusing herself from the investigation. Then you have sled coming in. And like that should that should almost be an automatic thing that you call in the FBI. Exactly. Just to be transparent in the investigation.

Yeah, you're right. Because, I mean, you already have so much damn shit on you that's like, okay, South Carolina is dirty, dirty. I mean, that's what it's looking like right now. Yeah, it's, I mean, I don't know. I mean, we're about to see how dirty it is. And how much are we ever going to know or find out about it? That's the question. we don't know. What we do know is that we hope that whatever the case may be. And look, I'm not saying that Paul Murdole wasn't a victim. He is a victim of a murder, regardless of whatever's happened. I mean, we do have a justice system to uphold the justice system. But here's the thing, man. What happens when the justiceism is owned by that, by a particular family?

Then you don't, and you no longer feel like you have a justice system. Then you think. feel like you had to take it in your own hands. And I think that's what happened. It could be. Somebody took this in their own hands. They knew exactly where they're going. But also I was reading in all these reports, I was reading that Buster and Paul liked to spend most of their time at the hunting land.

And mom would go with them. Their mom would go with them. So they did spend a good amount of time on this hunting land. And adjacent to that was some kind of gun club hunting lamb. land next to it land next to it and this lady was like you know she was talking about the mom she's like she would give you the shirt off her back she was so nice and so sweet like there's so many people maggie maggie murdall yeah maggie was so sweet but they did spend a lot of time at this land and i didn't know that before and you know here's the thing man we don't know like i don't want to

betray this family as yeah as villains as the villains because we don't know. No. You know, honestly, we're just reporting, we don't know. We don't know that they're not the victims. Yeah.

Well, they're definitely victims. Two of them got murdered. I know, I know they're victims, but I'm saying, like, we don't know that, like, because of their power

that they were targeted. But at the same time, at the same time, you have to understand that it doesn't just every day happen that you get let off on all kinds of crazy shit. But it's very unlikely

that somebody went to somebody hunting land and killed them with two different guns, a rifle and what was the other thing called? AR-15. It was what they originally reported. Shot multiple times. That is more of a personal- And there was one report, and this is unconfirmed,

but it was on Trey Gowdy's Sunday night in America or whatever it is, that they, now, this has not come out, but Trey Gowdy probably has connections. You know, he was a big, you know. Yeah, he's from South Carolina. But he said that, he said that, yeah, he said that, yeah, he said that, there were reports and rumors that they were bound. Yeah.

Maggie and Paul, meaning tied up. Yeah, they were bound and tied up. So to me, yeah, that's what reports is what Trey was reporting. Yeah.

And Trey, like I said, Trey, like I love, he's my hero. I love Trey. He's one of the biggest legal people ever to come through South Carolina. Yeah, yeah,

he's huge. Yeah. And I trust everything he says. I mean, I just. Which he said he didn't know that's 100% true, but he does know that that is a major thing.

And I'm just saying if they were tied and bound. then it's a personal murder most cases Well it was a personal murder no matter what Yeah it was When you shoot them multiple times like that With two different guns I mean and still we you know

Gets back to the first podcast Was it one or two people? I don't think one person could have done this by themselves But it's not even that look I don't know But it was personal Personal I'm gonna call something I'm just gonna speculate

That we never We may never know who killed these people we may never know I mean honestly like well I bet those people are kind of like chattering in their own shoes right now because it's gaining national attention not necessarily

unless it was like elite people that are not going to be found but listen there's one thing that you don't understand is that so many murders happen in this and especially when money's involved in any case where there are professional hits and these and I'm not talking about

the shit you see with these moron on these crime shows that get paid $1,000 to go do some dumb shit and then they turn on someone. We're talking about professional hits. We're talking about like hundreds of thousands of dollars paid to like the most expert killers. Exactly. That is a possibility. It's kind of like the Gambino crime family. I mean, they had hitmen, hitmen.

And I actually went for years without ever being found. And these guys were like hitmen and they knew what they were doing. and there was one guy that is actually, and I'm getting off topic, but I was watching him on, I don't know, something at that. I might know one of them. Well, I do too. But I was watching the hit man. And, you know, he just had no personal feelings.

That was his job to go and do that. And he was good at it. And he was proud of it. Yeah, you never know. And the thing is, I said it in the first podcast, especially in the low country. Low country of South Carolina, you know, a lot of, of people, when you say South Carolina, you think of like, I don't know, people think of

rednecks and retards or morons. Like, honestly, like, but the reality is there's a lot of money in South Carolina. There's a lot of old money in South Carolina is what it's called. And that old money, I'm talking about, you know, in the Hilton-head area and especially just not even Hilton had Aiken and

a lot of the areas, there are old money. Some of our, some of our richest people in the country reside in South Carolina. There's, there's one of the richest people in America in our city, you know, and but there's a lot of money here and, and I'm not saying, all I'm saying is that

if they never come out with a, who did it, it's probably because it was a professional hit and it was, it was done correctly. And power equals you know, I'm going to get away with it. Money equals power equals you know, I can get away with shit like that. A lot of, in a lot of cases. But you know, who knows? I mean, we don't know.

But again, you know, the way that... If it was a passionate murder, meaning like they were just pissed and they're like, no, we're doing this. You know, they're probably going to get caught. Yeah. Because they just don't think through. They don't think through.

They don't do this shit, you know, every day. But if it wasn't that, and someone was like saying, hey, we got to find someone that knows what they're doing. They may never be found because they're not going to be found. And to me, if somebody did find like a hitman to do this, this double homicide, It's somebody that obviously has... Why he said it homicide? It's homicide.

Homicide, homicide. Sorry. I guess I'd say it wrong. I'm sorry. Homicide. Homicide. Homicide. But anyways, anyone that hired somebody to do double homicide has some kind of money. Yeah. But like I said, we don't know. I don't know. But man, I'll tell you, man, this whole investigation, most murder investigations are closed-lipped. But, you know, I go back to Samantha Josephine. and Samantha Josephine died in South Carolina she was an Uber She was waiting on an Uber in Columbia

The Uber victim, yeah She was waiting on the Uber And it was, what was his name? Nate somebody Yeah, Nate Robinson Piece of shit's name Yeah, Nate Robinson He picked her up and killed her

And but you know what? No media attention on that It was no media attention Some innocent girl died And got murdered brutally You don't even hear about that shit Because it's not important It's not important to media because she was white and he was black.

And look, we don't know what the case is. But you know what? This is important because they're important, I guess, right? And so for some reason, I guess Samantha Josephine wasn't important enough that there's not continued media coverage. And yes, there was media coverage before. But you know what? We don't even know. We don't know now what's happened.

Like, it's so quiet with that. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah, it's really weird. Because we were on top of that case because I was like, oh, my God. God, I cannot believe this. We had a big group. We had a big Facebook group that, you know. Oh, yeah. And we got, we got threats on our own group.

Oh, yeah, we did. No, we did. And that goes with a lot of crime. Like, a lot of crime is not reported. You, you know, just what were you telling me, I think, this morning? How many people were killed in Chicago in like two days or whatever? Well, there was 50 shot or 50 people shot and there was like eight or nine deaths just this past couple days. No one cares about that, though. You don't hear that on the media. It's all based on what the media wants to betray.

Yeah. And so what would be the reason for the Murdole case to go national? Well, I don't know. Maybe they think they're conservatives or something. Or maybe they were Democrats. Well, they are. So maybe that's why it's important. I don't know.

Who knows? But regardless, I'm very curious to see what happens with this entire case. We're going to definitely keep you guys updated. And by the way, we do appreciate all the downloads. And if you guys have information that we've not heard about, please just like e-mails. and let us know because I'm really curious. Email us at Contact and InvestigateEarthpodcast.com. You can email any tips or any sources or anything you know about the case.

Email us that. You don't have to give your name. You don't have to mention your name. You can put a fake name in or whatever, but we can at least see what you guys say. By the way, anybody involved in the case is always welcome to come on. Sandy Smith, is that her name? Yeah, that's mom. Yeah, I would love to talk to her.

I mean, you know. I would love to talk to her. And I think I did a good job portraying what her thoughts were. Like, I would go more into depth, but if she wants to come and do that, that's fine too. But I'm just, I'm happy for her in one way, but I also agree that she got slapped in the face. Regarding why they opened her son's case, I think that's BS. Yeah, well, that happens a lot, man. When you face, when you, when you go toe to toe with the government in any shape, form or fashion, you usually get shit on.

and that's the unfortunate thing. And I think more and more and more in this day and age, the more you fuck with people, and I hate to put it that way. But the more you fuck with people, the more people are going to fight back. Because almost you have to. You look at crime across this country right now.

It is rampant. There is shit going on in this country that you wouldn't believe. A lot of the media is hiding it. But, man, there is murders every day. There are innocent people being murdered and shot and killed and punched and stabbed and just on the streets of everyday cities. This has happened in America. And this is not going to go away.

And guys and girls, both. I encourage you all to protect yourselves. Make sure you're extra vigilant everywhere you go. Know your environment. Know your environment. Chad is talking about this very well. Like before I met him, I go to the grocery store and get out of the car, walk in. I don't do that anymore.

I'm constantly looking around at my environment what my possible weapons could be if somebody did attack me. Like, I'm constantly having that in the back of my head because you don't know now. Because people are so crazy because there is no consequences for their crimes right now. I'll put it to you this way. We even, when we come upstairs in our podcast studio slash movie theater area, and we come upstairs, I think to myself, well, we got to bring a. gun, right? Even when we're upstairs, because, like, if we forget to leave the front door locked, right, and we're upstairs and we don't have a weapon, we can't have weapons in one room, we got to have weapons everywhere. We got to be able to access them. If we're upstairs

and someone breaks in or whatever. You're telling our secrets, babe. It doesn't know. I'm just telling you that we're ready no matter what. Yeah, we are. And we are like very confident of our environment. And I think that, you know, that was one great thing that, you know, I learned about you. And when I married you that you really like opened my eyes to because I didn't care before I used to use you know leave my door unlocked my car doors unlocked I never you know I always trusted everybody but nowadays you cannot trust to anyone you just can't and look you not only people you can't trust the government I hate to say you can't and I think and if anything I think this case is a prime example of that and you know what I just hope by the way any of you agents or whoever's listening there in on this case, I just hope that you uphold your duties as a law enforcement officer to make right of this case.

Make right what's going on. No matter what the outcome is, no matter who the victims or the suspects are, you just better damn sure make sure that you do this right. Because really, everybody is. Because it's going to come to light. Everybody is. It is, but it's going to come to light if you don't. And there's a bunch of victims.

And by the way, we'll make sure that it comes to light if it doesn't. So, just so you know, we're just putting that out there. But guys, that's it. That's all we got to say about this. Those are the new things. Any updates we have, we're going to come out with them.

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