Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - National Guard in DC & 19 States: Necessary Security or Federal Overreach?

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

President Donald Trump has deployed the National Guard to Washington, D.C. and 19 states, a move sparking fierce debate. Is this a bold step to restore law and order, or does it push the nation toward... a police state? In this episode, we break down the constitutional powers behind the decision, the arguments for and against, and the possibility that something larger may be unfolding behind the scenes. Reminder of our contest, if you share our episode and send us a message showing you have shared it, you will be entered to win free merchandise! The more you share, the more times you are entered to win! Our Merchandise StoreChad's Youtube Channel

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'll take you where the sun and soul is shining. Hello and welcome to Investigator of Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're talking about President Donald Trump that is ordered the National Guard in the 19 states, a move that has sparked both praise and concern, and supporters see it as a strong step to restore order, while critics warn it edges towards martial law and a police state. Now, the Constitution gives the President of authority to federalize the Guard under certain conditions. But when armed troops appear on American streets, people naturally ask, is this simply about protecting communities or is it something larger and folding behind the scenes?
Starting point is 00:01:02 Tonight will break down the constitutional arguments, their concerns about federal overreach, and whether this deployment is a temporary safeguard or a signal of deeper shifts on how power is exercised in America. Welcome to the show. It is August 24th, 2025. And the name of this song is Welcome to the City by Ingrid Witt. And guys, National Guard, welcome to the cities, because you are now in a lot. our cities you are in dc you're about to be deployed to 19 other states and what we're going to talk about is is this constitutional is trump doing the right thing and sherry i want to say this too i think there are people on both sides of this obviously you have a lot of people on the left that say hey this is unconstitutional trump should that absolutely not be doing this i literally just saw 30 minutes ago
Starting point is 00:01:45 to alex jones had posted a new video where he's saying is bill mar correct about trump is rolling out a slow coup. He is starting this kind of process with either National Guard or military to where if he wanted to maintain power or remain in office in 2028, could this be kind of the setup to that? But could this actually be about what Trump ran on, right? Which is law and order. He said, look, we got to restore justice. We got to restore law and order.
Starting point is 00:02:15 As Trump said and as he ran on leading up to the 2024 election, he said, number one, we have to close our borders because we have an invasion at our borders into America. Well, guess what? Over the past five or six months, we've almost had nobody come across our borders. And then on top of that, you have now the National Guard inside of D.C. To where they're saying there has been a massive increase in crime in D.C. We've heard of people, Congress members, staffers, senators, you name it, that have been mugged, carjacked, beaten.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And we saw this actually also under the Biden-Harris administration during the Antifa riots, during the BLM riots. But the thing is, they didn't give a damn, right? They did nothing. And unfortunately, in some of these cities like D.C. and Los Angeles and Chicago and New York, these are all left Democrat-run cities. Yeah, but what do you think Trump is supposed to do? Damn if you do and damn if you don't.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Like, don't restore order or do. Like, he's got to do something. People are not safe to even go down to the cities anymore in a lot of these states. You can't even go to a restaurant. There's tourists that don't even go to New York anymore. They don't go to Chicago anymore. We used to go to my mom's house in Chicago every year. We'd ride the train down to Michigan Avenue.
Starting point is 00:03:31 We go shop. We go out to dinner. We don't feel safe to do that anymore. So do you want to be in a place where you can't even go out and be a tourist? Or do you want to establish law and order and get rid of these awful criminals on the streets? Yeah. Yeah, you know, I think that's the thing too, Sherry, is like even when you would go to Chicago, which basically every single time. But Sherry always go to Chicago usually by herself or with her daughter.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I usually never go to Chicago when she goes. And I'm always obviously very worried about her going, especially if her mom or stepdad or whoever is like, hey, let's go to the city. Let's go to dinner. Let's go show you some cool things around the city. I just don't like that, right? Because I feel like, you know, as we already talked about on the last episode, I want to protect you. I want to make sure you're safe and secure and okay. but going into these places like Chicago, like D.C., like New York City, like Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:04:23 you know, I can't even imagine, like, have I had a daughter in these cities, how I would feel, because I would feel like they are not safe. I would feel like that the politicians and the people that are running these cities are definitely not doing a good job. No, nor do they care. No, they don't care, but in some ways they're doing it on purpose. Yeah. Now, if we look back just for a second, right?
Starting point is 00:04:44 let's talk about some of the far left prosecutors that were put in place during the BLM stuff, during the Antifa riots. This really started under Obama with the Ferguson, Missouri riots. And then beyond that, you have, you know, that was Michael Brown. And then beyond that, you had George Floyd. You had so many other instances to where, you know, the left or the Democrats wanted you to believe that all police officers are going after black people. And this was a target thing.
Starting point is 00:05:12 What I think it really was about, because they seemed. like, obviously as you dig into the BLM stuff, the BLM really wasn't for the black communities. They were more for making themselves millions of dollars than whoever were the chapter leaders. But they were really just an organized chaos organization. And what they were doing was they were being funded by people like George Soros and the globalists to go into America, disrupt the cities, disrupt the government, and create this political divide on a way that we've never seen ever in the history of America. So now Trump is sending out National Guard.
Starting point is 00:05:44 He's already put them in D.C. I think they've been there about two weeks. And so there's a lot of people. But they say the crime rate is way down already. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are people that are going to dinner now. They feel safe. They feel more secure.
Starting point is 00:05:58 You know, when you have National Guard on your streets alongside the police. And by the way, in D.C., these guards are armed, which is kind of toe in the line a little bit with the Constitution. And we're going to break down like what does the Constitution actually say about this? But when you see these guard members in the streets of D.C. And you see the city appear to be safer. Although, yes, there's people on the left that are doing interviews saying, well, I actually feel less safe now that the guard is on the streets and the military.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah. I don't want to take my kids to school seeing armed men on every corner. But I'd rather have that than armed men that are mugging me. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and that's the funny thing. It's like some of these people to interview, you know, it's like, do you feel that you're not safer by seeing the National Guard because you're one of the ones that do the muggings and the carjackings? Is that why you feel a little less safe now that there's actually law and order on the streets that are patrolling and making sure that you're not going to harm innocent civilians? Or is it because of just some political talking point?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Now, keeping in mind, Sherry and I probably on this episode will play a little devil's advocate. I'll probably be more devil's advocate. You'll probably be more kind of for. And by the way, I am for this. But we also have to talk about the other side of this. As I said a minute ago, you know, if Biden and Harris were doing this four years ago or three years ago. And I know you have a different point to this. But if they were doing this and they started rolling out National Guard and say Republican cities, although Republican cities in most cases do not have the crime that you'll see in a lot of these Democrat-led cities.
Starting point is 00:07:33 but if in any shape or form, you started seeing the Biden-Harris administration rolling out national guards through multiple states, that would worry me just because of what my opinion and thoughts were and are of Biden and Harris. It's like, are they about to set up a police state? We worried about that even when they were setting up the fencing
Starting point is 00:07:52 around the Capitol, setting up the fencing around the White House and all these other government buildings. I was kind of worried about that because I was like, what the hell are they doing? It's like they're separating, you know, the government for the people.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And so, you know, obviously you have that take on it. But then there's also some conspiracy to this, right? And we're going to play a clip in just a bit about like, well, what is there something maybe bigger going on behind the scenes? Because we also know about underground tunnels in Washington, D.C. Now, I know this sounds nuts. And Sherry, you kind of rolled your eyes a little bit. But what I'm telling you is there are tunnels throughout the United States.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I agree. I'm not rolling my eyes about that. I was rolling my eyes because I wanted to state that even if Biden and Harris were still in office, I would still want them to make our cities safer. Yeah. No matter what. But I'm pro-law enforcement. That's the way I've always been and that's the way I am.
Starting point is 00:08:47 If we don't have laws, we have chaos. Yeah, we do for sure. But what I was saying is there are underground tunnels that stretch from the west coast to the east coast. We know that for sure. And we've done an episode on dumb or deep underground military bases. And so what deep underground military bases essentially are is there are these military bases that are underground throughout the United States of America. We've talked about on other episodes where it's like, you know, how people wanted to storm Area 51 because they wanted to see the aliens or they wanted to see some type of advanced technology. What are they hiding from us behind the gates?
Starting point is 00:09:21 I don't necessarily think anything is being hidden from us beyond any gates anymore. I think a lot of what the gates, yeah, a lot of the gates are hiding the entry points to, some of these deep underground military bases or tunnels. So there has been some conspiracy behind the fact that Washington, D.C., for example, has a plethora of underground tunnel systems. And presidents have known about this. Congress and Senate know about this, but they don't necessarily know how extensive these underground tunnels are.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Now, if you think about also the fact that Trump is starting to kind of deploy the National Guard, especially in Washington, D.C., And then you have some telltale signs of, okay, so number one, Trump said, well, Washington, D.C. His crime has gotten out of control. And it has. And they were trying to say there was a 40 and 50 percent increase in crime over the past two or three years. And then some numbers also show that Washington, D.C.'s crime actually has went down, supposedly, 30 percent. Although I don't necessarily believe that.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Well, when the staffers are getting mugged and killed on a daily basis, then something's got to be done. Yeah. But, I mean, it's also the same thing. It's like with climate change or with COVID or anything else. Like do we really believe numbers, especially when they come out against Trump or the right or whoever? Usually they're coming out with bullshit numbers or they're skewing numbers in a way that supports their narrative. And so what we're going to talk about tonight is like is this constitutional number one. Should Trump be doing this in places like Washington, D.C.?
Starting point is 00:10:50 And Trump also recently said, hey, Chicago, you're next. Well, they're coming to Chicago next. And I've been saying it for 15 years. and I wish, like his first term, I was praying that he would take the National Guard into Chicago, especially the South Side, because all it is is black on black crime and it's young children killing each other. And nothing's going to work unless they bring in something else. Because if you think about it, law enforcement really since, you know, the summer of love, we're down in law enforcement in every state in America.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah. Nobody wants to be in law enforcement anymore because of the stigma we put on them. Yeah. Yeah. So, and that's another whole subject that we need to talk about. There's not enough law enforcement to protect the citizens of any state or city. Yeah. And especially in the Democrat-led cities, right?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Because, you know, we've heard over the past four or five years, it's like defund the police, defund the police. We've got to get rid of the police. And, you know, you think about all of these instances to where, you know, they're trying to get rid of qualified immunity for law enforcement. And, you know, whereas I understand on to some takes on people's thought process on that to where it's like law enforcement can't just go and do whatever they want to and get away with it because they do have qualified immunity. But we also have to understand that law enforcement, especially over the past eight years,
Starting point is 00:12:13 under the administrations that we have had, especially under Obama and Biden Harris, they were a target. The law enforcement became a target under the United States federal government. And so to Sherry's point, it was really hard to get law enforcement to actually want to sign up and go and do the job, which is already underappreciated. But then on top of it, if you had a president and an administration in office that could use the Department of Justice to go after you, particularly because you did something that would go after law enforcement that would kill someone that was armed. And then they would still hype this up like, you know, hey, this cop killed a black person.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah, it's his police brutality. Yeah. And also beyond that, what the media does. and they do very well is they would say this is an unarmed black man, although they had no idea. And then three or four or five or six days or sometimes a week or two later, it would come out. Oh, wait, he actually did have a gun. But by then it was too late because the mainstream media already demonized this police officer, demonized the department.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And then there were people that were docks in these police officers. They were showing up at their houses. And then this is what created the narrative of people's minds to where like, you know what? Do I want to sign up to be a cop? Hell no. No. Not in this environment. And not to mention that you're putting your life on the line every day just to go to work.
Starting point is 00:13:30 How many of us do that? How many of us go to our jobs and think, oh my gosh, this might be the last day that I take my last breath. I don't know what's going to happen today because they don't know what they're going to get into. Yeah, you're exactly right. I want to play a clip just in a second. This is Fox News talking about the deployment of National Guard to 19 states. It also briefly mentions what Trump had talked about about potentially going to Chicago next. But before we do that, I do want to go ahead and we got a little challenge for you guys.
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Starting point is 00:17:03 We're still waiting on that. But thank you guys and sure you make a great point. We do really truly appreciate all of you. So let's go ahead and get into the clip from Fox News about the 19 states that are going to have National Guard in them very soon and what the purpose of that is. listen. President Trump expanding his crackdown on crime and illegal immigration beyond the nation's capital. In fact, the administration is now planning to deploy 1,700 National Guard troops to 19 states over the next few weeks, and that should be very interesting. And with that, we welcome you to another hour. Fox News Live. I'm Kevin Cork here in Washington. With more, we want to head
Starting point is 00:17:39 over to the White House. The North Law would be specific. That's where we find my buddy, Lucas Tomlinson, who has more on what has been a very busy week for the press. Hey, Lail T. It sure has. Good morning, Kevin. And the Pentagon says over 2,000 National Guard soldiers are patrolling the streets of the nation's capital right now. And President Trump says they could be deployed to other big cities as well. We're going to make our cities very, very safe. Chicago is a mess. You have an incompetent mayor, grossly incompetent. And we'll straighten that one out probably next. So I think Chicago will be our next. And then we'll help with the Yule.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Now, last year, Kevin, the murder rate in D.C. was on par with Chicago and nearly four times higher than Los Angeles and nearly six times higher than New York. Last hour, Congressman Pat Fallon told you, D.C. needs to be cleaned up. Even with D.C., booking the books on their crime statistics, you're three and a half times more likely to be killed in D.C. than you were in 2012 when a serious crime is committed. And from 2018 to 2023, carjackings are up 550 percent, so things are out of control. And thank goodness President Trump has taken these, again, bold actions. As you mentioned, off the top 1,700 National Guard members will also be deployed in 19 states. The White House says they will help DHS with clerical support for processing illegal aliens at ICE facilities. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So there you have Fox News talking about the news story that is kind of sweeping the nation. And a lot of right-wing and left-wing pundits are talking about this, including Alex Jones. But then you have Bill Maher that is saying that, you know, this is specifically. potentially Trump rolling out a slow coup that he is going to remain in power in 2028. Now, for Bill Maher to say this, Bill Maher obviously has been on the left wing of things his entire life. He is definitely a far leftist, but he is someone that is at least rational on topics, at least rational on current events to a degree.
Starting point is 00:19:39 That's in your opinion, not mine. Because when I listen to him, even when he brings on Republicans, sometimes I'm like, what in the hell are you talking about? Yeah. That's just my opinion. Well, and there's definitely things like when he brings on certain individuals like Charlie Kirk or, you know, the various other people he brings on Club Random where he'll talk to them. And then once they get into a discussion about the left and the right, there's obviously
Starting point is 00:20:04 still topics that he just cannot move away from that he thinks that Republicans are evil, Democrats are great. But the one thing Bill Moore has done a very good job at is calling out Democrats. where they're failing their people and especially their messaging. And so, you know, it's one of the things he said probably a month ago. He said, look, if Trump legalizes or reschedules marijuana, Trump is going to have a huge win on his hand, especially with a lot of Democrats. And this is not very hard for Democrats.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I wonder why, though, because he smokes weed every time he gets on his show. But it's true, though, because this is something that has been a huge, I guess you can say topic or policy decision that Democrats have yet to do. Republicans have yet to do. Potentially Trump will do this. But I think at the very least, Bill Maher, in most cases, is as fair as he can be given his bias to the left. And especially after what we've seen over the past four years where the administration completely did everything in reverse of what you should have done as a presidential administration. I mean, you look at the Ukraine or Russia war, which I believe heavily, and we've talked about on many episodes where, you know, it was like we were instigating Russia to go to war with the Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:21:14 We did everything to make sure they went to war with Ukraine. And not just that. Look at the riots. Look at everything that has happened under the administration. But what I do want to play here briefly is MSNBC's take on this. Like obviously we heard Fox News. Hey, we got 1900 National Guard soldiers that are deploying. We got multiple National Guard in D.C.
Starting point is 00:21:36 By the way, many of these are armed. And it does seem like some of these National Guard members are taking on law enforcement roles or in the city of D.C. or the district of Columbia, but we don't know what's going to happen when National Guard goes to Chicago because I think that's going to be a very different circumstance. Chicago is a whole different beast.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I understand that we have crime in D.C. And as we already talked about, a lot of D.C. crime are these gangs of 15, 16, 17, and 18-year-olds that are going around. They're still in vehicles. We see this in New York. We saw it in Los Angeles. And we also somewhat see that in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Chicago is a different beast. so because of all of the gang violence and the gang activity. We're talking about an all-out war. They call Chicago Shirek for a reason. Like Iraq. Chicago is like Iraq. Right. You know, in 2003, 2004.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And so sending in National Guard into this environment is going to be a whole other thing. I'm kind of afraid for the National Guard to even go into that environment, to be honest. Well, what you got to worry about is like engagement rules, right? So, you know, what is going to be the rules of engagement? How is a National Guard going to respond? And how are they going to actually carry out their role? What is their role going to be? Are they going to be similar to D.C.?
Starting point is 00:22:51 And if they are, which means they're able to carry a weapon, it's a sidearm, it's a pistol that are carrying in D.C. Are they going to do the same thing in Chicago? And I think for their safety, they probably should. Yeah. Yeah. Because everyone there is armed, definitely. And, you know, when we talk about downtown Chicago versus the south side, it's two different places. But I think the south side has developed into.
Starting point is 00:23:14 downtown Chicago. Yeah, and other areas. The west side of Chicago, east side of Chicago, it's all kind of being overran now. But what worries me is engagement, right? If, if National Guard does get involved in the south side of Chicago or in some of the places that you definitely need someone in to do something to stop the violence, it's going to mean something that could potentially have a shit ton of backlash on the decision to send National Guard there to begin with.
Starting point is 00:23:41 But what else do you do? Because otherwise, it's just going to keep happening. they're going to keep killing innocent people. You have to do something. The mayor of Chicago is not going to do anything. Brandon, whatever his name is. Mayor Mary Lightfoot didn't do a damn thing either. She looked like little E.T.
Starting point is 00:23:58 But Brandon, whatever, I can't remember his last name. I can't think right now either. But he keeps saying, well, we're going to fight and we're going to uprise against the National Guard. And he's telling his people to do it. Because they want people to keep killing each other. Yeah. They love that and they feed off of it.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But here's the here's the scary part, though, is if Trump sends the National Guard in Chicago, and you're going to start seeing a lot of rhetoric to where they're going to try to tell the gang members and the people that are doing the bad shit to stand up against National Guard, they want to create a war. And they want to create a war between military and civilians. And when that happens, that changes everything very fast. But let's go ahead and get to the MSNBC clip. I hate to even do this to you guys, but you have to at least hear what mainstream media on the other side is talking about and what they're saying that they're very concerned about. Listen.
Starting point is 00:24:48 President Trump's military presence in Washington, D.C. continues to escalate, with the Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth confirming that National Guard troops deployed in the Capitol will now be armed and authorized to carry out local law enforcement duties. His justification? A single post on social media calling the move common sense. And Trump himself is making clear this deployment may not end anytime soon. In fact, he's floated keeping troops. troops in D.C. indefinitely, and even suggested other cities could soon be next. I mean, I keep seeing about a 30-day deadline of which we have 22 days left or something.
Starting point is 00:25:22 But if I think we're in great shape here, that's one thing. But if I don't, I'm going to just say it's a national emergency. And if I have a national emergency, I can keep the troops there as long as I want. And when we're ready, we'll go ahead and we'll straighten out Chicago, just like we did D.C. Chicago's very dangerous, great place. I built great stuff there. I have the most beautiful building in Chicago, I think, but I hate to see what's happened to Chicago. Miles Taylor, Kimberly Atkins Store, and Paul Butler are back with us.
Starting point is 00:25:54 You know, also in that, the president said that he was going to float and using the regular military to tackle crime. He's talking about Chicago. And in it, he says, the people in Chicago are screaming for us to come. They're wearing red hats just like this. They're wearing red hats. African-American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying, please, President Trump, come to Chicago. as the beautiful African-American lady on our panel, Kim, Lee. I want to go to you first because this isn't about crime, right?
Starting point is 00:26:22 If it was about crime, there are actually things that you can do to tamp down crime. There are things in the DMV. The Baltimore has done to tamp down crime in his city. And I guess I'm just, what does it say that we are in a time where the president is just saying, I might send the regular military to come into Washington, D.C., or to go, to Chicago. And it doesn't seem like the red, the sirens are going off in the country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:50 So on the legal sort of front of this, there is a principle, Pasi Comitatis. There's a law, a Pasi Cometatis Act, which states that military should not be used in a law enforcement capacity against American citizens. The reasons for that ought to be obvious. When you see that sort of militarized control by a government, I've seen that in places like Beijing.
Starting point is 00:27:12 that's not what democracy is supposed to be. My dad wasn't in the military. That is not their mission. It is not the mission of the military, which I think you've seen a lot of issues here, not just with people not understanding what their mission is, but chain of command when everybody's claiming to be in control, it actually makes a city less safe. But as you said, it has nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Donald Trump has had a bugaboo about American cities for years, but you can go all the way back to his time in New York when he claimed and still won't let go today. that the exonerated five, the four children who were charged in that horrific Central Park attack, he insists that they are guilty and he insists that they should still be jailed at this point. He put out the full-page ad about them wanting to, they should be getting the death penalty. This has been something about Donald Trump in American cities, particularly American cities, that have large black populations, that he has wanted to assert some control.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And he's using D.C. because he has a little bit more leeway because of the federalization of the city in so many ways, the congressional control that's here to sort of run a dry run of what he wants to see carried out in American cities. I want to pause for a second. And I want to say this with all due respect, but
Starting point is 00:28:26 there's a reason why you have to deploy National Guard, and she's saying in predominantly black areas or black cities is because that is where high crime is. That is just a fact. You know, if there is a black population, that is 13% of the population,
Starting point is 00:28:42 but they account for so much of the violent crime, then where are you going to put the National Guard? It's the same thing with LivePD. I'll give you a good example of this. When LivePD went to Greenville County, South Carolina, and I guess there was a lot of civil rights activists and everything that came in after this and said, no, you've got to get Live PD to hell out of Greenville
Starting point is 00:29:02 because all they're doing is just they're going into black communities, and this is where LivePD is every single time that they're on LivePD. Okay. but that's where the crime is. Right. I mean, and not just in black communities. There is also the Hispanic communities in certain other areas.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And it's not to say that white people do not commit crimes. They do. Yeah. But it's just to say that when you are on live PD and you have a television show that once crime. Yeah. And where your crime is, where your calls are are in these communities. And so for her to say that Trump is targeting the black communities by sending a national guard in places like Chicago, that is where the crime. crime is. And if you look at the crime statistics and the facts about who's committing the most
Starting point is 00:29:45 crime in Chicago, obviously that is the black community. It is the south side of Chicago. That's not a racist thing to say. That is just a fact. And so to say that like you're being racist by targeting black people, that's not true. Most of the people in South Chicago want them to come. Yeah, a lot of them do. And they want them to help. I see it all the time on Facebook. Let me ask you a question, Chad. And I know the answer, but I want to ask the question. What is the National Guard here for? Well, to protect the country. What part of the country?
Starting point is 00:30:15 Within or without? Within. Yeah. That's it. That's their job. Our military has different performance levels. The army, the Marines, everything is outbound, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:28 But National Guard is to protect within our country. Yeah. I mean, most of the active duty military, yes, they do usually, they are the ones that deploy to other countries, but that is primarily in defense roles for the United of America. But it is, it's kind of like the CIA. The CIA operates outside of the United States supposedly, even though they technically operate inside the United States.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But the CI's job is supposed to go outside of the United States to do jobs over in other countries to protect the United States. Then you have the FBI, for example. The FBI is kind of like the National Guard in this sense. Right. FBI is to investigate crimes internally inside of the United States. National Guard is the same way. So if you have hurricanes, if you have rioting, if you have, uh,
Starting point is 00:31:10 invasions, if you have all this shit, National Guard is going to be your first line of defense. Protecting inside the United States. Now, do you think the National Guard is any less trained than the Marines and the Army? That's a good question because I'm not military. I'm not Marine or National Guard. I don't know. I mean, do I think that National Guard is as trained as Marine Corps? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:31:30 What about Army? What about Air Force? What about Navy? Probably not. I mean, maybe you can make, God, I'm going to get myself in trouble. Okay. Well, you have a friend that's in national. Guard right now.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He's not national guard. Oh, he's not. No, he's reserved. He's reserved. He's reserved. Oh, he's reserves. Yeah. So that's still part of active duty slash not active duty, but reserves.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Army. And, you know, just like he just got back from A&T. So that's a specialized training. They were doing like a warfare exercise games or war games, I guess you can call it. He was there for like two weeks in the middle of the woods. I think it was South Dakota. He's also going to be deployed again, or not deployed, but sent on a training exercise. I think in two or three months from now, and I was actually just talking to him last night.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And he says usually when they go on this next training exercise, it is pre-deployment type training. We're actually talking about- He's already been deployed a couple times. Three times. Yeah. Yeah, he's been in Iraq once, Afghanistan, twice. And that was many years ago. But now he's in reserves. And so what he was saying, though, is that how they're starting to train and do that.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I mean, it's a lot of heavy training right now for the reserves. And he thinks it's pre-deployment type training. and I had asked him last night, I said, well, what do you think it's for? Do you think it's like, what do you think it's about? Where would you be deployed? He's like, well, he's like, I think it's probably like, if you look at the China situation in Taiwan, I mean, eventually China is going to invade Taiwan. I think the United States has a hard stance on we're not going to allow China to do this,
Starting point is 00:32:57 which is going to be another shit show in itself. Yeah. Once we get into all out war with China, which is very possible with the Taiwan situation. I think that's more likely than a Russia thing. But to your question, going to. back to it. National Guard. National Guard, they do have, they do have guardsmen that are trained in police duties, just like you would have in the military, so military police and so on. A lot of them, I believe, are trained in crowd control or riot control. That's usually where they'll deploy,
Starting point is 00:33:25 or they'll deploy in situations like hurricanes or hurricane relief. Or, for example, what the National Guard was supposed to originally get deployed in Washington, D.C. for it was to kind of set corridors and perimeters around the actual law enforcement in D.C. To protect them while they went and carried out their duties. But there's not enough people to carry out those duties. That's the problem. Yeah, I think they're just getting overwhelmed with the amount of crime and to some degrees.
Starting point is 00:33:51 So I think that as they are armed now, I don't know 100% the exact details on how much they are actually carrying out law enforcement duties. But that is when it gets into the constitutional gray area. Like, is what Trump is doing constitutional or is it not? and I think we do have to take that very seriously because the reason I say we have to take it seriously is because Trump is not always going to be in power and Republicans are not always going to be in power. And so it's the same thing like when Trump was getting indicted and, you know, he had 34 felonies and they went after him for every single thing under the sun. And now you have Trump in office.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And so the Democrats had to have thought like, well, is he going to come after us? Well, we already start, we're starting to see some of these investigations unravel with Adam Schiff with about mortgage fraud. We're seeing John Bolton, which the FBI just raided his house. So there's always going to be appointed by Trump. I know, but we're always going to have this slingshot effect. And it's the same way with like politics. Like if you have the Democrats do so horribly, you know, there's a good chance if voting is secure that you're going to have this massive shift towards Republicans on the backside. Now, the same thing with Trump administration now with what he's doing, the law and order and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:07 However, this is, I guess, perceived about the public is going to be to determine a factor on what happens with Republicans in the midterms, which is in 2026. And then also what happens in 2028. One thing I think that Trump has kind of fumbled on, as we've talked about on other episodes, is the Epstein thing. And we still don't 100% know what is actually going to come out about the Epstein files. Trump keeps calling it a hoax. And we know it's not a hoax. Yeah, I get that. But getting back to the fact at hand is that the crime is on a rise and is younger people.
Starting point is 00:35:43 We're even seeing it where we live in Spartanburg in Greenville. There's shootings every day now. Yeah. And it's normally young people that are shooting. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the young crime is out of control. And I think in large part because if you look at a lot of their parents, you know, a lot of their parents are the ones. the ones the ones that are caught on camera,
Starting point is 00:36:04 stealing shit out of CBSes and, and going to riots and going to protests and doing all the shit. And then their kids are looking up at them and like, oh, this is what I'm supposed to do. This is, I'm going to be an activist or I'm going to be a gang member. That's the cool thing to do.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And we've always had this issue with like glorifying violence and glorifying gangs. And I think, you know, if you go back to like the CIA and what their involvement was, I believe in rap culture, which dates back to the 80s, you know, in the 1980s, a lot of people believe the CIA created the gang rap music to basically
Starting point is 00:36:37 destroy the black community and create chaos and violence and then to be able to further control and manipulate the black community. And they've done that. And, you know, look at Martin Luther King. He got murdered by the government essentially. I mean, according to the courts. And that was because he was trying to bring people together. So what did the CIA do?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Well, they're like, well, we have to control these people. So let's create a gang mentality in pop culture rap. music and Ice Cube himself, which was, you know, he was the writer and singer of, you know, he was an NWA and he had the song F the police and which which became synonymous with the black community. I mean, this was like the biggest song. And it still played to this day with people that hate the police. And wasn't he in roles that he was the police?
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, he was. Yeah, like 21 Jump Street and all this stuff. But the funny thing about it is, is the Ice Cube Simpson has come out and said, yeah, he's like, I believe there was something. to the rap gang culture. Like it was almost like, and he had said this in interview. He said, I think they tried to push us to create songs like this almost. It was like they incentivize us, the labels.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It was like, hey, you got to get out there and you got to be a social justice warrior. This was before Antifa and BLM ever existed. Well, it goes back to the Illamani and it goes back to selling your soul to the devil. You just look at like Miley Cyrus, for example. I'm getting off topic for just a minute. We're good. But it's just crazy that you. see her before and after picture.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Her before picture, you know, even when she was Hannah Montana on the Disney channel, she was this beautiful girl. Of course she was then. She was young. But I mean, she's older, but she still could look prettier. And everyone's like, oh, yeah, she's beautiful. She has no eyebrows. She has no eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Her hair's cut really short. I mean, she looks like she's on some kind of drug or something or has sold her soul something. And then you got Lil Nas X. I don't know if you saw this video. Did you see that? So Little Naus X is the guy that sang Old Town Road. That guy is weird. Well, he sung Old Town Road.
Starting point is 00:38:38 This was a song that mainstream music pushed to all the youth. This is what all the, you should know, Sherry, because all of your kids knew the song. Oh, yeah. We used to play it every day in my classroom. Yeah. So all the kids knew Old Town Road. They all followed Lil Nas X. They thought he was the greatest thing ever to live.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And then all of a sudden, he took this massive shift. The next song he had out after he had all the kids following him was him basically having lap dance from the devil and he came out as gay and all the stuff now as of like four days ago he was walking the streets of l.A. in his underwear talking crazy shit that that's crazy yeah so it's like their minds once they're kind of entrapped and enthrined in this evil demonic type culture and i do think it's intentional you know that that that's what happens and i think that's the problem with like our youth is like they're we have this mass formation psychosis of people that are you know my age, your age, younger that are having kids now, they got teenagers in high school,
Starting point is 00:39:34 and they're doing crazy shit. If their parents are doing crazy shit, they're indoctrinated. They are on this ideological surge. And, you know, their main goal is to get paid by the government, to go to riots, which in many cases they get paid for also. Like, what are their kids going to do? They're going to do the same, if not worse, shit. And that's exactly what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:39:55 But I want to listen to some more and the rest of this MSNBC interview. We'll talk more. somebody who is here, who lives here, who is a taxpayer in Washington, D.C., what he could have done if he cared about, crime was released more than a billion dollars in funding that Congress is still holding up that can go to things like public safety, that can go to things like hiring more cops, which Trump said he does not want to do. He's not even good at hiding the subterfuge of all of this, and that's what seems so dangerous to me, because we are seeing militarized people show up at the homes of black people and harass them for doing nothing but living. and existing in their lives.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And that's what Trump wants. When Mayor Bouncer was here on the show, come on, this is complete bullshit. That is bullshit. No, it is, obviously. God. I mean, they only had felonies. That's the reason why they're showing up at the freaking homes.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Or they were on con. But Trump doesn't want to hire any other law enforcement. That's bullshit, too. Nobody wants to work for law enforcement because of what happened. And then this is MSNBC, of course. They're trying to make it out like the National Guard is there just for the black people and they're harassing black people for no reason whatsoever. None of these people have committed crimes,
Starting point is 00:41:03 and they're all just there to attack people, to attack citizens. And unfortunately, for them and their argument, if they actually wanted to make an argument on MSNBC that made any sense whatsoever, what they would do is try to actually articulate what is either constitutional or not constitutional about what Trump is doing, right? That is how you would do it. You don't automatically go in race bait, which is exactly what they do on MSNs. NBC. But like what's actually happening? So the National Guard is deploying across 19 states up to
Starting point is 00:41:33 1,700 National Guard troops are being mobilized across Republican-led states to assist the Department of Homeland Security with logistical and administrative support. So we're talking about case processing, fingerprinting, transportation, and documentation. And so in most of these states, they're not going to do direct law enforcement duties. Now, we don't know how to play out in Chicago, but we at least know in the 19 states, they are there to assist federal agencies. And most of these states are Republican states. I think all of them are. And their state governors are commanding their guard to do what they, you know, what the government is asking them to do while the government funds them.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Now, that's a very important topic is the governor with the National Guard has to approve the National Guard to be utilized because it is a state guard. It is not a federal. It is not a military. That is how the military and National Guard to separate them. themselves. And so the federal deployment in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, Baltimore, now the administration is preparing to deploy the guard in certain areas, as we talked about, including Chicago and New York and Baltimore, as part of a broader crackdown on crime and immigration. And state and local leaders, governors and mayors, legislators are strongly
Starting point is 00:42:45 opposing these moves, calling them unauthorized, politically motivated, and legally questionable. Now, the quick reaction force concept, which is a proposal under evaluation to station 600 National Guard troops in Alabama and Arizona ready to deploy within an hour in case of civil unrest that is also trying to get pushed through right now. So is this martial law or police state? And so right now, obviously, it's not officially a police state or a martial law, but there's a lot of critics that Warren is creeping towards this militarization of civil life.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And the term martial law refers to full suspension of civil authority in favor of military rule, which has not been declared. And so deploying armed troops or militarized forces in domestic cities, especially without local consent, is what is going to be fueling this serious concern over civil liberties and this kind of democratic norm. But, you know, there's a couple of legal frameworks that they're going to have to go up against with all of this. And this is the constitutional and kind of legal analysis. And there's called the Posse Commitist Act, or which is 1878, and that's when this was established.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And the law limits the use of federal troops and civilian law enforcement unless expressively authorized by Congress or the, the Constitution. So the National Guard troops, when under the state control, Title 32, are not bound by posse committists, but must remain under the governor's command and able to stay out of that law. So Title 32 versus Title X. So Title 32, the guards remain under governor control, even if federally funded. They can support federal agencies, but only with the state's consent.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And then you have Title 10 status, which is federalized. And once federalized, National Guard troops become subject to possexuals. commit us and cannot engage in civilian law enforcement without proper authorization. Then you also have the Insurrection Act of 1807, and this statutory exception allows the president to deploy federal troops, including the National Guard to suppress insurrection, enforce federal law, or protect constitutional rights, but it has strict prerequisites, including a proclamation to disperse and is rarely used without state request or clear emergency. And then you have the anti-commanding a state sovereignty.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Court president, New York versus United States, Prince versus United States forbids the federal government from forcing states to administer or support federal programs. Deploying under-federalized guard troops in non-consenting states clearly breaches that principle. So California has already filed suit, arguing that Trump's federalization of its guard violated both the 10th Amendment and the Possee Commitist Act. So that is what Governor Gavin Newsom is suing the Trump administration for right now. That is during these riots that happen a couple, two or three months ago.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah, but I don't get it. Why do they want crime in their cities? Well, listen, they do because they don't get it. They want chaos. They want chaos because that's what, you know, that's who they're being funded by. You know, they're being funded by the sources and all the people that are funding the prosecutors, you know, like George Gascon that was in Los Angeles. That was letting out everyone that committed crimes in Los Angeles that were burning.
Starting point is 00:45:50 down cities and doing all the crazy shit. And so if you guys remember three or four months ago during the ICE protest in Los Angeles, where, you know, they had these, these ICE protesters that were destroying ICE vehicles. They were trying to set up barricades to where ICE could not carry out their duties as federal agents, you know, and that's when I do believe Trump did federalize the California National Guard and basically said, F you, Gavin Newsom, we're going to utilize the National Guard in your state regardless. And so does Gavin Newsom have a standing on this lawsuit? Technically, legally, he will because it is the governor.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And so if the governor wants his state to be in chaos and chaos and destroyed, that's kind of his own thing. And that's why they're all moving to Texas. But the legal standing here on the Trump side of this is that Hugh had federal authorities that were in this state that were trying to carry out federal duties on behalf of national security, which is the federal immigration laws and the, essentially the invasion across our border, they were trying to carry out federal duties. And all the California government and politics and in some cases, some law enforcement
Starting point is 00:47:04 were doing was trying to hinder that ability. So that's when Trump federalized the National Guard in California. And so there's going to be a big fight here. And it's going to be interesting how the courts rule with Gavin Newsom versus Trump in this situation because yes, Trump did federalize the California National Guard without the governor's consent, which is technically unconstitutional, but it depends on how the court reads and hears what was actually going on in the United States. Because if it, you know, if they kind of pivoted it and say, not pivoted it, but present it as, hey, this is a national emergency because you have a
Starting point is 00:47:39 shit ton of illegal immigrants in your city. Many of them were gang members from, uh, you know, Venezuela, Mexico, you name it, cartel members. And we sent in our federal government to go in and get these people. And then you guys are not helping us whatsoever. You know, but then if Trump would have, you know, authorized the actual active duty military, which he could have potentially done. I don't know if that would have been better for him than, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:06 federalized and national guard. But either way, that's kind of where that lawsuit sits. But doesn't it make you think about like politics, governors, mayors, they're all paid by somebody and whoever's paying them the most is what they're going to do. Oh, absolutely. I mean, that's the same way it is in the White House. The same way it is in Congress. It's the same way it is in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's every politician the only reason and the only way that they are in their positions of power is because of who funds them. And unfortunately, that we've talked a lot about that, you know, because there are outside influences outside of the United States that fund and I know what you're talking about Israel. Our politics. Well, yeah, Israel. I mean, there's really not a lot of other countries that influence the United States politics, except for the deep states like George Soros is and, you know, W.EF. And, you know, for a while, World Health Organization and probably their elites and the fundings of that. I mean.
Starting point is 00:49:04 But I just don't even see with Trump having all the money he has. He doesn't even take a salary. And how could he be influenced by Israel? He's taking a salary now. I think he is. I mean, I think his first term he did. think he has I think he is getting paid now. I've not heard anything about him not taking a salary in this term.
Starting point is 00:49:23 But how is he being influenced? I don't know. But I mean, I'm not getting into the whole Israel thing. I'm just saying that yes, all politicians are funded. They are influenced. And if they're not influenced and they don't do what they're,
Starting point is 00:49:35 what their super PACs and what their biggest donors say, then they're not going to be, they're not going to have a very long political career because they're not going to have money to run. They're not going to have the money to be able to get out there and have commercials all across your screen and on social media. But Trump has three years left. It's not about just the fact that Trump has three years left.
Starting point is 00:49:54 It's about his whole MAGA movement. It's about everybody that comes after him. It's about all the people that voted for him. He's got to get the people to vote for everybody that he supports going forward. You know, that's the whole point of why does he care? He only has three years left. He does care because it's an entire movement. That is what the Republicans movement is.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And unfortunately, right now for the Democrats, they don't have a movement necessarily. They've tried Antiv. They've tried BLM. they've tried rioting, they've tried division. Crazy enough, they're still trying to do the same shit and it still isn't working, but they're still trying to do it. So the key legal battles, like I said, is the Newsome and Trump thing. And so the constitutional perspective on this is logistical support in 19 states under Title 32 with governor consent appears legally defensive,
Starting point is 00:50:38 but support not policing, right? So deploying troops in cities without state local consent and for broader law enforcement-style roles, more likely violates constitutional norms, particularly the anti-commoderine doctrine, posse-committance act, and the principles of federalism. And so then invoking the Insurrection Act might be constitutional if true emergencies were declared and procedural steps followed. But these deployments seem political or rather than emergency driven. And without that, it's hard to kind of justify that constitutionally.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But what we're going to see is that whatever and however Trump decides to push into Chicago, that's going to be a big one because, you know, Mayor Brandon is not going to agree with that. Nobody's going to agree with that in Chicago. They're going to do everything they can to fight them on that whole deal. And I'm about to play a clip of what old Mayor Brandon, whatever the hell his last name is. Who cares? I'm going to play a clip of what he recently said. It's a very short clip.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And so, you know, look, we're going to remain firm. We'll take legal action. But the people in this city are accustomed to rise enough. against tyranny. And if that's necessary, I believe that the people of Chicago will stand firm alongside of me as I work every single day to protect the people of this city. Brandon Johnson is his name for anyone against ship. Yeah. So he's saying the people in this city are accustomed to rising up against tyranny. Are you talking about like you and your mayor? The other mayor that was Mary Lightfoot? Is that what you were talking about? Because I don't understand
Starting point is 00:52:07 exactly what you're saying. I mean, considering the fact that Chicago is like one of the deadliest cities to live in, period. You have little girls and little boys that are just walking out in their front yard being shot by straight bullets because of gang violence. Or in their apartment. Yeah. And it's like every weekend, you have multiple people dead from gang violence. This is happening on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Well, to me, it sounds like he's antagonizing people to stand up to Trump. Oh, absolutely. Yes, because that's what they want. They want if Trump does send in the National Guard to Chicago, they want a battle. They want a fight. That is exactly what they want because then if the National Guard has to shoot someone or kill somebody in Chicago, oh my God, you're never going to hear the end of it. It's going to be worse than January 6th. They're going to declare that it is the worst thing since 9-11.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It's probably even worse than 9-11, although they don't give a damn about all the people that are dying innocently before. But even if the National Guard has to kill someone that is a gang member because they may be shot at them, it's going to be the worst thing. I'm telling you it's going to be. And they're going to talk all about the police state. they're going to talk about all about martial law now my thoughts on this is that it is kind of a dangerous road to kind of go down right when you put any national guard in cities to where they are acting as law enforcement because in dc the national guard are technically acting as law enforcement roles and i don't know what they're training is what the you know who they sent
Starting point is 00:53:34 and what they're training is as far as mp or military police or law enforcement duties i don't know but you know if you do send national guard to cities that start to carry out law enforcement roles and i don't know what the depth of those things are in dc we do know they are armed in dc according to p heggseth um you know you are toe in a line to some degree and you know like bill maher said is trump starting to roll out this slow coup i don't know i mean i doubt it i think that's kind of ridiculous um and you know i think the left always wants us to believe what they usually are trying to do and And like, so it's, you know, with Biden and Harris and everybody else, they want to, they always want to blame the other side for what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:54:17 It's kind of like cheaters, you know, like if you're cheating on someone, you're going to blame the other person for cheating because you're guilty of doing it. And that's exactly what the Democrats have done for years. So here is one resident in Washington, D.C. And this is what she thinks about the guard being in D.C. Listen. It's actually pretty dope to see people make videos from the D.C. area. sharing how peaceful it is now since Trump cleaned up the streets. It's really dope to see in witness.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And it's like all over D.C., not just the nice areas in the Washington, D.C. area. When I shared on my Facebook page and my IG how there's a lot of people who are really happy with the streets being cleaned up, a lot of people that I know where I'm from, which is PG County, they are like, no, it's unnecessary. No, it's this, is that. And it's just, you know, for anyone that thinks that this isn't necessary, it really does set in my heart for people who think like that. It's like, you just want to think the worst of the words. Just a negative, negative, nasty, nasty mindset. And like a lot of these people that have moved like this, they claim they're Christians.
Starting point is 00:55:41 They claim they are believers of Christ Jesus and they are moving like that. Literally going by what the media says, claim they same reports. I've read articles too. And a lot of those articles that I've read about what's going on in D.C. are very biased. And all they're doing is just promoting fear. No one has been racially profiled in D.C. No one has. and I'm not sure where people are getting these reports from besides false media.
Starting point is 00:56:11 You know, I'm so glad I became a free thinker, and I'm so glad I have used critical thinking. Yeah, because if I didn't start doing this, I would have been like everybody else from my hometown, because I used to think like that. But the Lord delivered me, and I'm so glad that he did. I was carnal-minded. I was a lukewarm Christian because of the area where I'm from because when you're living up there, folks just think you just go to church, say hallelujah, praise the Lord, speaking tongues, but I could go to consciousness, I can do this and do that, whatever. It causes confusion within the mind, like, and that doesn't please God. So again, I know I just went left with my conversation, but my whole point is I'm happy for everyone in the DMV that feels safe because y'all deserve to feel safe too.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And on the real, that's one of the reasons why I moved away from home because of the crime that was happening there because where I used to live, I used to live, I used to live, not that far from D.C. I used to live 10 minutes away from Southern Avenue, southeast, because I lived in Temple Hills. So to see what the president is doing and how folks are just like happy. I'm happy for y'all. I am. I am extremely happy. And as much as I would love to focus on my other socials, I'm not because all they're going to do is rejected. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:57:37 That's on them. Not me. So anyway, shout out to our president of the United States, for real. And shout out to my hometown, the DMV, for feeling safe. And yeah, yeah, I continue to enjoy the city and enjoy the peace that y'all deserve to. Amen. All right. So that was a longtime resident of D.C. She's a black lady from the D.C. area. And as she said, I mean, even a lot of her family, they're breathing a sigh of relief because they feel a little safer tonight. You know, and it's not, you know, and it's, I don't know what it is about the south sides of cities, but apparently south side of D.C. is also a very bad area.
Starting point is 00:58:16 and you know this is something that I think needs to be done. It's just that we have to watch it, right? Obviously, we always have to be critical of our government. It doesn't matter about who you guys voted for, who you're loyal to. They are still a part of the government. Yes, the president does lead, you know, parts of the government. Although, if you look at the Epstein thing, like how much does the president actually have authority over, you know, when it comes to like even the Epstein files and stuff
Starting point is 00:58:45 that we really want to know, like the UFO. Are UFOs real for sure? Or are you guys sending whistleblowers as PR people? Right? I mean, it's like if the Pentagon approves whistleblowers to be able to go and speak in front of Congress, are they really whistleblowers or are they PR representatives for the government on behalf of the government? I agree. You know, and it's like David Grush.
Starting point is 00:59:06 That's why a lot of people in the UFO community are like, screw David Grush. We don't believe any damn thing he says because this guy came in front of Congress and then he went when he actually got into the skiffs. he was I'm sorry I can't tell you anything my higher officers are saying I'm not allowed to say anything I'll got to prison if I say anything so it almost seems like they're trying to run these PR campaigns by way of whistleblowers maybe that could be David Grush maybe that could be commander David Fravor and Ryan Graves and some of these other UFO whistleblowers it goes back to what Ashton Forbes has been talking about for two years now it's like I think we have advanced propulsion the government's hiding it from either lying to you on a regular basis and I do believe in most D percent of cases that we are lied to on a regular basis by our government. I don't think it matters who's the president is. You know, like, for example, Pam Bondi, I don't trust that girl woman at all whatsoever. I think she is a horrible AG. I think that she's lied consistently.
Starting point is 01:00:02 And look, you know, it may not necessarily be her fault because we don't know exactly how the control structure or power structure is in D.C. Obviously, you know that Trump is supposed to be the main guy, but he's calling it a hope. then you have Pan Bondi initially saying, oh, we got tens of thousands of videos. Then all of a sudden you say, oh, it was mostly child porn. Don't worry about it. After they watched the videos. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And then and then you have, you know, the real stuff. Yeah. Then you have like at one point in time, they had all these right wing influencers come to the White House and they had these binders with the Epstein files and they were holding them up from the cameras. And then all of a sudden, you know, and then she also went on mainstream media. I said, oh, I got the, I got the files on my desk. and then she's like, oh, there are no files.
Starting point is 01:00:45 No, there's no such thing as a client list. No, there's no such thing as files. And then the deputy AG just went and met with Gisleine Maxwell. They went and met with her, took her to a nice cushy hotel and did all this shit for. And now she's coming out. She's the only statements we've really seen from Gislein Maxwell so far is that Trump had nothing to do with anything whatsoever. There was no black book, which we'll probably get into an episode on that to kind of
Starting point is 01:01:08 break down all she said. But we don't know that for sure. Maybe that's only the statements that are coming out to public. there's we don't know what she said and what she didn't say no it's transcripts oh so people are reading the transcripts yeah that's what it says yes there's been transcripts released and you know she's saying that you know trump had nothing to do with anything don't worry about it that's the primary people are cherry picking what they want to cherry pick yes republicans in this case i mean i hate to say that but yeah most everything that has come out
Starting point is 01:01:36 with transcripts with that meeting has all been about trump didn't do anything don't worry about trump did nothing trump did nothing trump did nothing And then also some others said there was no black book. Epstein didn't have a list. But I'm still saying they're cherry picking that part because that's what they want to do. Exactly. That's my point. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:55 But like we know, like if you're going to go off and believe that Gislain Maxwell is, you know, what we're, what we're being told and what's being released is exactly what Gislein Maxwell said or what she actually knows when the sitting administration of the president of the United States goes and visits you. Are you serious? Like what I'm, what I'm waiting for is to see if Ghislaine Maxwell will be, her sentence will be either commuted or she'll be exonerated or not exonerated, but hardened. I don't know because like was there a deal in this whole agreement? Now I know it sounds like that Congress does have some of the files.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Trump said release them all. So we will see what comes from that. But it's like this whole thing has been watered down. You know, we knew so much about this before they started to lie to us. And now they're trying to confuse people to where it's like, no, guys, there's no list. This is all a hoax. It's a Democrat hoax. Just like Russia collusion, just like all of this. But the reality is this Epstein thing has been going on for a while.
Starting point is 01:02:52 This is not about Trump, although I understand maybe Trump gets the fact that the Democrats and the deep state have had these files. Could they manipulate them? Could they alter them to, you know, kind of influence or put Trump into this whole thing? Yes, they could. I mean, we know that. and likely we're never ever going to know the truth about the Epstein files. Yeah, but we also know the truth that Clinton and Obama were on those lists as well. Well, according to, actually, I think according to, no, well, actually, according to Ghislane Maxwell in one of her transcripts, she said that Clinton never visited the island. That's what she said. And did she say that Trump visited the island?
Starting point is 01:03:34 She said Trump had nothing to do with anything. So I don't know. that's just what I've heard. I've not, I've not dove fully into this, but it sounds like that Gislane Maxwell was trying to exonerate Clinton, exonerate Trump,
Starting point is 01:03:47 and, you know, kind of just to say, like, they had nothing to do with this. I'm pretty sure Gisleine Maxwell even said that Clinton never even visited the island. I'm pretty sure, but I don't know that for sure. So we'll dig into that on a later date.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I do want to get to this next clip, and this clip is kind of the more conspiracy side of this, this Masonic DC, the hidden tunnels and Trump's secret war on the satanic forces. Now, this is redacted. And so redacted to talk to this expert that kind of knows all about the hidden tunnels and all this stuff. And people speculate. Like, and I know this kind of far reaches, but like could the National Guard, could military be utilized in D.C.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Or being put in place for something bigger behind the scenes. So we're not even talking about a coup or a police state. We're talking about these underground satanic type masononic tunnels. Listen to what redacted says, listen. It's really hidden underneath Washington, D.C. For years, they've been whispers of vast tunnel systems underneath the Capitol, not just for the government use, of course, but for something darker. Now, a new report suggests President Trump's recent moves from federalizing D.C.'s metro police
Starting point is 01:04:55 to pressuring the Smithsonian to release long, hidden artifacts. Maybe part of a much bigger operation. And so what does the police move actually covering here for federal forces, raiding an underground network tied to the deep state, satanic cults in D.C., even extraterrestrial allies? Yes. So all of the deep state forces that Trump is up against. We wanted to talk about this today with Dr. Michael Sala, author, researcher, one of the leading voices on exopolitics to help make us make sense of all of this. Dr. Welcome back to the show. Great to see you. Thanks for having me, Clay. My pleasure. Now, I think, you know, what's interesting is that
Starting point is 01:05:37 last week when we started covering this story, there's been new revelations that have come out since then, in many ways, I think, vindicating some of what you were saying. And so many viewers, I mean, we had thousands of people saying, thank you for covering this story, because it doesn't get any attention. So can you talk about what some of these new revelations are that we might have been learning about with the Smithsonian and like the Scottish Rite Temple, etc.? Sure. Well, this Smithsonian, that received an executive order, or was the subject of an executive order from President Trump, where there would be an effort to pressure the Smithsonian to release much more of its holdings to be reviewed for release. And that comes on top of what has been really decades of complaints that the Smithsonian, rather than revealing, America's history, its ancient history, and the true level of civilization here, has been suppressing and hiding it. And so there have been stories dating all the way back to the 1800s that the Smithsonian, once it is called out to investigate an archaeological finding of
Starting point is 01:06:54 any significance, whether we're talking about the discovery of giant skeletons, whether we're talking about the discovery of Egyptian artifacts in the Grand Canyon and anything to do with say the mounds, the mounds in Ohio that contain supposedly technologies that go back to the Atlantean era, that the Smithsonian, rather than getting its hands on these artifacts and reviewing them for public release, really just locks them away in vaults. And the place where it's been doing that is in this kind of vast underground tunnel system in the Washington, D.C. area. And the tunnel system dates all the way back to the early 1800s when Washington, D.C. was being designed as the nation's capital. So they needed a tunnel system so that members of Congress and the executive branch could,
Starting point is 01:07:59 get around quickly if they needed to. Of course, you had the British invasion in 1812, so that only accelerated things. And you also had a vast aqueduct system that also was responsible for a lot of the underground tunneling in Washington, D.C. On top of that, you also had a underground trolley system that began as early as 1862. And, you had, And it was until 18, 1962, that the trolley system was finally put to an end. And over the course of that century, they eventually started to build underground tunnels for the trolleys. Now, that was abandoned in 1962. And in late 60s and early 70s, they started to build Washington's metro system.
Starting point is 01:08:53 But the tunnels that were used for the trolleys, the underground tunnels are still there. They're unused. and so you know, you just have this vast network of tunnels, whether they're built by private entities, whether they're built by federal entities or government agencies that are throughout the Washington, D.C. area. And deeply, deeply dark stuff that's happening here, as one of our viewers here on the screen says, you know, deeply being used for like child trafficking, really demonic things down here in these tunnels. And we've heard from different whistleblowers on this,
Starting point is 01:09:27 Somebody in the chat was just saying free masonry connected to the inverted pentagram on this as well. Maybe we can put that inverted pendergogram up here on the screen and take a look at it. Maybe you can recap for our audience that maybe missed this last week. What are we seeing here? And why is this deeply troubling? Well, the pentagram was something that was part of the architectural design for Washington, D.C. Pierre L'Enfant was a Freemason. and what you see there is an incomplete pentagram.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And critics say, well, because it's not a complete pentagram, then it could not have been designed for cult purposes. But actually, a broken pentagram has even more significance because while a pentagram, a complete pentagram, is a symbol of protection, the broken pentagram that you see there, that's a symbol that welcomes the satanic forces. And what's very interesting is there's, I think I sent you an image that shows the compass at the bottom of the pentagram. And that compass, that extends to the U.S. Congress.
Starting point is 01:10:36 And that shows that the compass being the symbol of Freemasonry, that that was connected to this pentagram. There you go. And what's very interesting here, of course, is that many of the foundations, Founding fathers were Freemasons, and I think the vast majority of them really did have noble intentions and wanted to make Washington, D.C., a kind of beacon of light and a replacement for Atlantis, like the new Atlantis. But there were very deep, dark, hidden forces that came in and infiltrated. And so you see that in the different lodges in the Washington, D.C. area, and there's the temple, house of the temple, on 16th Street, just near DuPont Circle,
Starting point is 01:11:28 and I think I sent you an image of that as well. And that is the headquarters of Scottish Rite three masonry 33 degree in the United States or a very important element of that. And underneath that is supposedly, according to a book titled We at America and other sources that cited, remnants of an ancient Atlantean tunnel system. Now, I mean, that sounds pretty far-fetched that you could actually have something as ancient as that. But in fact, I mean, I've been doing work on the underground tunnel system in America.
Starting point is 01:12:08 And what typically has been happening, especially when it comes to the development of deep underground military bases, is that they have found a much older tunnel. system that dates back to the Atlantean era and they either kind of repurpose that or they build alongside that. And so I think it's very feasible that underneath Washington, D.C., in addition to this kind of like human-made layer of tunnels, whether they're made for the federal government, for Congress, or for the aqueduct system, or for the trolley car system, that you could have something much, much older, an Atlantean tunnel system. And that's where things get really very interesting, because I think that's where you get probably the deepest, darkest
Starting point is 01:13:00 rituals being conducted by those that make it their life or their job to explore and research these tunnels for satanic practices. Because what the Satanists do, and there is an element of Freemason, you know, it's very important. important to say that not all Freemasonry is satanic. It's only those that are above the 33 degree level that are introduced into this kind of like satanic element where they're told that humans are descendants of gods and they rely on blood sacrifice and that they can invoke demons or these draconian reptilians. And so these temples or these lodgers are often built on areas that have some kind of energy vortex. And so that's why they actually do a lot of these practices like satanic
Starting point is 01:13:59 rituals at these energy vortexes because they know that that's how you can control an area or even an entire planet. And that brings us back to the whole inverted pentagram because within there at the different nodes, you're going to have rituals being conducted in underground locations that really ensure that this kind of dark satanic element predominates in Washington. So there you go. And that was an expert on the underground tunnels under Washington, D.C. And listen, the reason why I wanted to play this clip is because there has been some videos and there has been some speculation that they have seen guardsmen or military that have went into tunnel systems,
Starting point is 01:14:40 potentially in Washington, D.C. during this, I guess you can say takeover of the guard into Washington, D.C. And a lot of people speculate, like, if you want to know or figure out who controls the deep state, like we've always talked about it, like, who is the ones in charge of the deep state? Because we know it's not the president. Yeah, who's the main players, who's really behind the pulling the strings of like the division and the satanic rituals and the child trafficking, child sacrifices, you name it. a lot of people believe that the culprit and kind of the nest egg, at least in the United States, is under Washington, D.C. And so, you know, you have this stuff about these.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And by the way, to explain this, the broken pinagram, which is designed, the entire city of Washington, D.C. is a pinaugram except for it's broken on the south side of it. Or what if it's a star? It's not. A pinagram and a star look kind of the same. They don't, though. It's pretty obvious when you look at the half. the lines and the way they lay.
Starting point is 01:15:41 But not only that, the entire city, like the roads, yeah, the, um, some of the concrete work, all of that stuff is designed perfectly to look like that. It's just that the bottom, the bottom portion of it is broken. And as he says, that's actually worse. I'm just saying, I don't know if I believe that or not, but I mean, that is kind of crazy, but I want to tell you a quick story. Back at my teaching career, I had a friend that her nephew was an engineer and worked.
Starting point is 01:16:08 and worked in Washington, D.C. And I'm not kidding that she told me this. I believe her 98.8%. Yeah. There is a little person in me that doesn't believe it, but why would she tell me these things out of the blue? And she's like, Sherry, don't ever repeat this. And now I'm repeating it.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Okay. It's not like we know who this person is. But anyways, her nephew is an engineer. And he worked in Washington, D.C., and he was working in these underground tons. But in order for him to get to these underground tunnels, they would blindfold him and not show him where he was going or what he was doing until he got to these tunnels. It kind of reminds me of like the Bob Lazar thing, you know, where he didn't know exactly where he was. They put him on a plane, but they didn't tell him exactly, you know, where he was.
Starting point is 01:17:00 And then he could not communicate with other people. Yeah. It was the same thing. But her nephew went down there. And she said there would be buildings two and three foot tall underneath there. Two and three foot. Yeah. Like two and three stories.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Two or three stories. Sorry. Yeah. She said that it was like a city. Yeah. Underneath there. Well, yeah. I mean, there's, so I said, there's underground cities there.
Starting point is 01:17:26 And we know that, you know, for example, some of the earthquakes that a lot of people believe that have happened in certain areas, maybe because of their, what is it called, the deep underground burrow or burrowing machines, which are. these massive drills that that that you know where they're making new tunnels they're just having to dig out all the stone and limestone and all this stuff and and these these these drills are massive i mean you guys can look them up on on google but yeah and so sometimes when you're underground this deep you can cause this shift in in the plates yeah or at least in some factions and it'll create earthquakes on the ground exactly and that's what my next point was going to be you know you wonder why
Starting point is 01:18:06 we have earthquakes sometimes well do you think it's because we're blasting stuff underground. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of experts that have talked about that. And even I go back to Eric Hecker where he worked at the Antarctica, whatever, I guess science research military lab or whatever to where he was a firefighter slash something there. And he allegedly saw these, you know, direct energy weapons that were there and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:34 But, you know, a lot of the process of how he accessed certain areas of this base. was very similar to what you say blindfolded taken into places that you know he did not see a large part of the base except for only where he worked and then once he left he was able to leave but he did still you know being in his position see a lot of crazy stuff and I still need to get him on the podcast but this just goes back to the Washington DC thing the underground tunnels we don't know I mean I'm not saying that national guards there for this reason but you know if you think about Q and all the stuff they've talked about the Q has for a long time thought that Trump was still in control of the government, not the government, but the military, even when
Starting point is 01:19:12 Biden Harris was in power, in control, although I don't believe that. But I just think that there's something bigger to this Washington, D.C. thing. And this is going to be my final thought for tonight's episode. I think there's something bigger. What that is, I don't know. Do I think it's some type of satanic ritual cult that are going after underneath the Washington, D.C.? No, I don't think that. but do I think though really that we need the National Guard in Washington, D.C., yes, probably,
Starting point is 01:19:43 but it's also like really toe in the line of the, you know, military state, the police state, martial law. Could this be a slow rollout getting people used to the fact that military is in our streets, patrol in our streets? I understand that he's, like I said, he's going to go to Chicago next. That's going to be a big one. We're going to see what happens because if that. goes bad.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I just wonder how many people want him to do that. Well, I mean, listen, if the purposes are for the right reasons and actually to get law in order to, you know, especially in these cities where they don't give a damn, it's almost like they want to instigate crime. You just think about all these restaurants and these businesses, you know, bankrupt because nobody can go shop there anymore. Nobody can go downtown. Do you not want law and order established where not only residents.
Starting point is 01:20:34 can go there but tourists. Well, the problem is this is what the, this is what the mayors, this is what the police chiefs. This is what all these people should be doing, but they're not. You know, and so I understand, like, if you're a president and you are running a law and order, you got to do something and you can't, it's not like you yourself can go take over the police department. The only way you can do that is by way of National Guard. And so that's why the states, like from South Carolina, Tennessee, I think Alabama,
Starting point is 01:20:59 some other Republican states are sending their National Guard to D.C. so instead of using Democrat states, they're not using them because that would be against their order or against their control. So now Republican governors are sending these National Guardsmen to these areas. And so that's kind of what I believe, how he's probably circumvented some of these constitutional prohibiting factors, I guess, of deploying a National Guard into our cities. He's using the Republican states, national guards.
Starting point is 01:21:28 But like I said, it's going to be dangerous when they go to Chicago. I think it's going to be a whole different. deal and he says as soon as we kind of get you know dc under control we're coming to chicago next well and i think he needs to and i like i said earlier on the podcast 10 15 years ago would have been better yeah for sure yeah i mean it's it's nice but guys let us know what you think about this do you think that sending national guard into these cities is overstepping do you do you worry at all about a police state or martial law or do you think this is the right thing to do um like i said i think my overall consensus, just knowing Trump, we voted for Trump.
Starting point is 01:22:06 I'm going to trust Trump on this one. I think that he's doing the right thing. I don't think it's for police state or martial law. Trump is not who I worry about with that. If you want someone that's going to send National Guard into places, I wouldn't worry about it would be Biden or someone like that. Unfortunately, they just don't give a shit. So the way they create chaos is just allowing prosecutors to let out anyone that commits
Starting point is 01:22:28 violent crimes. They allow funding into these cities from people like George Soros to organize and create chaos, burn down buildings, you know, kill people, uh, loot these businesses to where businesses all fell. I can't even tell you, even just in our city, you know, the amount of businesses that are going out of, I mean, they're just going completely out of business. They're gone. They're gone forever.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Places will show up, you know, a week ago we'd beat a business. This week we go. They're not there anymore. And this is a problem. It's not just about online shopping. these are restaurants these are places in cities that have a problem with crime and when you have a problem with crime a lot of people tend to stay away from those places and that's happening in spartembourg that's happening in green what's happening in a lot of places i'm not necessarily saying
Starting point is 01:23:12 greenville city as quite as bad but spartanburg is getting a lot worse and i know many cities that you guys probably live near are probably also the same and a similar boat so you know and unfortunately for a lot of these juveniles they think they can get away with literal murder literally they can yeah And because they're juvenile, so they're like, well, we can do whatever the hell we want to nowadays. And, you know, these 12 and 13 year olds are in gangs. They're carrying guns, illegal weapons, you know, they're doing all of this shit. And none of the mayors or none of the leaders in these cities give a shit. And so, you know, I think for Trump, I think you have to do something.
Starting point is 01:23:47 You don't, you know, I think beforehand, you know, when Trump was in office in 2016, that's when BLM and all that shit really happened to where they wanted to create chaos in these cities. to make Trump look bad. That was pretty obvious. Yeah, but that chaos has continued. Yeah, exactly as continued. So now Trump's taking a further stance on it. So whereas he hopes that maybe by doing this,
Starting point is 01:24:09 we can nip this shit in the bud before this happens again, before another BLM right, before another Antifa right, before some other crazy shit that Democrats figure out how to do to make the administration look bad, he's going to try to get ahead of it. And that's just at least what I see. But like I said, let me know what you guys think about this. We're going to play this out with the same song.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Welcome to the city. As we say, guys, we support our troops. We support our law enforcement. All you national guardsmen that are in D.C. and are going to go to these multiple states. We do pray for you guys. And thank you for serving our country and for looking out for innocent civilians. Until next time, guys, we love you.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Peace out. Peace out, guys.

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