Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - New UFO Video Splasing Into The Ocean with Rich Simpson & Pilot Matt

Episode Date: May 18, 2021

So the Navy released a new UFO Video that now splashes down in the ocean and the Navy never finds it. Jeremy Corbell once again got this video released by the military. We are finally about to know the truth!

Welcome to Investigate Earth podcast. I am your host, Chad, alongside of my gorgeous wife, Jerry. Yes. Yes. Give me a high five. I turn it to the beast. Because you have the beauty. Beauty and the beast.

You have the beauty on your side. Hey, guys. Welcome. We're so excited about this podcast because we're like so excited guys. Oh, my God. So excited. Anyways, this is a serious podcast. Let's be serious.

It is serious, but we are very excited because, you know, this is like our favorite thing ever and we like probably have more most podcasts about this topic than any other topic right I think we do no we do because this stuff really excites us like we like have dreams about it well besides jazz dreams about monkeys but whatever I do dream yeah that was a crazy dream but it could have been a UFO monkey we don't know or a taco taco yeah but guys welcome to the podcast thank you guys for joining us tonight obviously we've gotten a lot of you guys that emails, guys and girls. We've got a lot of the emails, man, asking us what our thoughts were on the new UFO video.

Jeremy Corbell got a new video released from the Navy, and this video is depicting a UFO, or, as the military calls it a UAP, unidentified aerial phenomenon. Which is, that is... It's way more professional to me. Well, it doesn't matter how you... I like UFO, UAP, whatever. But anyways, there's a new video out that is showing basically an unidentified flying object that is over the, or it's actually over the waters off the coast of San Diego. And this UAP is definitely looks very similar to many of the videos that we've seen.

This was a little different, though. It's not really different looking on Fleer. No, I'm just saying the way it interacts. Sorry, go ahead. But, no, I mean, it's just, Commander David Fravor was one of the first incidences of where the government started releasing videos that had people or, you know, entire squadrons, fighter wings, so on and so forth, that were experiencing these UAPs or UFOs. They were actually intercepting them. And so David Fraver and his unit was off to because of San Diego on a training mission. one of the first videos that's released. It's called the

Tic Tac video. It's one of the more popular videos that you guys are probably seen across the internet. But this particular... And I think this was like in 2019, right? I don't... I think it was. Well, no, it's David Fravers' video. I'm not sure the exact date of that one. But this video particularly

was where they intercepted a UFO off the coast of San Diego. They were actually out on the training mission some miles off the coast. And you know, one of the co-pilot, or the navigator, as they call them in the military, which is the backseat guy.

There's a pilot, and then you've got a navigator. The navigator in the backseat of a fighter jet typically always works the camera systems. A lot of times they'll use and get ready for, you know, air-to-air combat situations with the weaponry. But they basically navigate. So they're called navigators. And the navigators are the ones that make sure they're on course. They do this. They look at FLIR systems.

They do all this. So it was one of the navigators that actually captured this UFO on the Fleer system. And what a Fleer system is, and this is the first video, by the way, and we're going to talk about the new video. But anyways, the Fleer system is essentially a camera that shows you the difference in cold and dark. I mean, cold and hot, cold and warm, whatever. It's essentially like a thermal imaging camera. And so this camera captured this UFO, and this thing was going incredible speed. the fighter jets that made them look like they were, you know, Camrys or Corolla's.

But he didn't just capture it. Like, he really had to try hard. Remember he was like, he was trying to lock on. And it was so hard to lock on because this thing was going like in every direction, up, down, sideways, blah, blah, blah. And so he was really trying to lock on. And you can see him trying to lock on. Yeah. But then when he locked on, what happened to it was like.

Well, you know, it was tough for him to lock on to begin with because this thing was moving an incredibly high rate of speed. a lot faster than what they're used to. And honestly, you know, the pilot has since come out and said, the only reason that they were actually able to ever capture this thing was because of the angle they were at to this object. If they would have been looking at this object from a, basically, it was coming towards it and the object was flying horizontally to the aircraft, they would have never captured it.

Because of the speed of this thing was gone. But, you know, fortunately for them, the angle they were, were trying to head this thing off at. Although it was going incredibly fast and it wasn't like necessarily light speed fast because obviously you wouldn't capture it on the Fleer. But the angle they were getting it, he did happen to capture it. Once they thing captures it, that camera follows it. Yeah.

Once it's like captured it, it's like on. And it's like it's automatically like a computer taking over. It's not a person like trying to keep, you know, maneuvering. Yeah. So once he captures it, that's it. They're on. Yeah, it was captured. And so this thing basically was.

you know, off the coast of California. Actually, kind of more towards Mexico and those waters out there. And they basically saw this thing go from, you know, I think David Fravers said 60,000 feet to like 2,000 feet and 1,000 feet within seconds. I mean, it was moving incredibly fast. It was doing maneuvers that, you know, number one, there was no obvious signs of propulsion. There was no engines.

These cameras, these flare systems on these fighter jets, they capture engine heat. and on any jet whatsoever, even a drone for that matter, a drone is still going to let off some kind of heat signature. And even beyond a drone, this thing and the speed it was moving and everything else was just incredible. But anyways, one of the things they saw, and this kind of leads up to the new video we're talking about,

is one of the things that they saw in this particular video was this object go down to the ocean. And one of the things David Fravor and the pilots that were there that night say about this object was when it went down to the ocean, they were watching this thing on the Fleer system, this on camera. It was almost like there was something under the water right on the ocean surface. That almost gravitated up as it was coming down. Yeah. And so, you know, it was weird.

And, you know, they even said you could see the obvious disturbance of the water. they didn't think that the actual disturbance was because of the craft that was coming down to the water. They believe it was whatever was coming up from the water. It was almost like a mothership or some weird. I mean, that's what it sounds like. Right. I have no idea. But anyway, so, but the interesting thing to take from this is now we got this new video coming out from Jeremy Corbell.

This was captured in 2019. And the interesting thing about it. But before you even go farther, though, I just want to say that the interesting thing is that, Oh my God, I just lost my train of thought because the dog's barking. But anyways, like, the discussion right now is, is this really UFOs or is this foreign adversaries? Yeah, which we're going to talk to deep about. Like, this is the big discussion in media right now. It's like they're trying to say, is it this or that?

Like, I think that's what's in the news right now. Well, yeah, I mean, but, you know, but at the same time, let's keep in mind. What I was going to say is that video, what we're talking about, David Fraver. the the Tick-Tac video and all that stuff. I'm going to have to go get a bone. No, you're fine. I've got to get a dog a bone. They won't eat that dog bone anyway.

But the thing is about this video and the new video that come out is both of the objects look very similar. No, they look similar. Yeah, they look very similar. They're like spherical to me. Yeah, spherical. They're not huge. Yeah. Yeah, they're not very big.

That's what I would like to know on the first one with David Fraser's video. Like how big was that one? compared to the one that's new that's came out. Well, we don't know, but. But we have also seen things in the sky that, you know, there's big ones, little ones, blah, blah, blah. I think they come in all different sizes. Yeah, they do. I mean, it's, yeah, it's not one particular object.

Yeah. But now we're getting reports of this stuff, man. I mean, this new video, and we're not, I mean, I want to at least talk about what the podcast is about. The new video comes out. Jeremy Corbell somehow got access to it from the Navy or who. whoever. And this guy, man, he's a filmmaker. He did. He has a couple of films on Netflix. He has a couple of things. Bob Lazar and Flying Saucers. And there's a couple of his documentaries on Netflix. But Jeremy Corbell is heavily involved in the UFO thing. And he's actually been one of the big

reasons why a lot of these videos have been released. He's put a lot of pressure on the Pentagon, the government. You know, and obviously this report's coming out that Trump put into the the COVID relief package. I think it was in November. It has to come out by June. Yeah, it's coming out next month. Marco Rubio is actually one from Florida. It has been really pushing hard on it. But anyways, this new video, what's interesting about it is this craft, which it seems like there's so many reports that we've always heard that it's, you know, these crafts or whatever these things are.

They're so many times over the ocean. And there's been reports. We've heard rumors from either military or whoever that these crafts, in the past possibly has a base underwater, they think, or something. I mean, it's just strange how it operates. Or maybe they're just able to fly underwater. Yeah. Well, not fly, but they're obviously not flying underwater.

They're going to be just going in the water. Well, whatever it is. That's what that guy, what's his name? You know, our favorite guy that was on. Lou Al's on that. Yeah, yeah. He said they can fly, they can fly underwater, and they can fly in outer space. Well, I mean, well, yeah, I get that.

But, yeah, I mean, well, if they're underwater, I mean, it makes sense because, well, let me just explain what the new video shows, because people were probably confused. Okay. The new video shows this thing, this thing coming down, yeah, this thing coming down and splashing into the water, the ocean. This is a Navy camera that shows this. It shows a splash that, you know, this thing goes into water. Now, the interesting thing about this whole situation is, is that, As this craft comes down, now, this particular video, the thing wasn't moving crazy fast.

You know, we don't know when this video was picked up from or two, but it does show this craft coming down slowly. And as it's coming down, this thing crashes into the water. Not crashes, it enters the water. Now, there is a splash to when it enters the water. There is on the video, and I encourage you guys to go to Jeremy Corbell, whether you go to his, YouTube, whether you go to his, he has Instagram and all that stuff. He has the latest video. It's all over the media right now. But this new video basically shows this craft moving over the water and then it goes into the water. So just so happens that, not just so happens, but we had a,

I guess we had been tracking this object for quite a while. And so when this thing goes into the water, we then have a submarine that goes down, one of our submarines, and they say this, you know, in detail, we had a submarine go down to look for, you know, wreckage or look for some type of anything in the water whatsoever. We found absolutely nothing in the water whatsoever. And so this thing enters the water and goes somewhere that we have no idea where it goes. The big issue here is that, and by the way, guys, before we go too far, we do have two guests on the night. We got Pilot Matt. He's going to come on here in just a minute.

And we have Rich Simpson. You guys will remember Rich Simpson. He's an amazing author, Conspiracy Diaries. We actually had him on the night before last. But he's going to come on, or not the night before last, but the podcast before last. Right. And he's going to come on and talk his thoughts, and so is Matt. I want to get Matt's opinion.

You know, him as a flight instructor and everything he does. I want to know, and, you know, I'm in aviation as well, but I want to know kind of Matt's opinion on this as well. But where we're at right now, though, is that this thing goes into the water. Now, the big question is, like, you know, everybody's asking, you know, our government has ignored this for years. They've ignored it to the point of, you know, if this is a foreign adversary, which that is the other topic of things,

then why the hell have we ignored it, number one? And everyone's like, well, why have we done anything about it? Well, what can we do? If we go and we see it go in the ocean and it's not there, then what are we going to do? If we can't intercept it whatsoever, what I would like to know is, like, has a fighter jet ever fired on one of these things? Well, I don't know. That's crazy. Because, I mean, because they are in our airspace.

Yeah, our airspace. But maybe they don't want to because they're so foreign to us that we don't know what they are. Yeah, but that's like some movie stuff. Yeah, that is some movie stuff for sure, but I don't know. So what do you, do you think it could be a foreign adversary, Sharon? To me, I don't think it's possible because if it was a foreign adversary or whatever coming, they would already be after us and they've already like attacking us or something because they're all over the place. Like there was one, we're watching on TV today.

There was one pilot that came on today and said they see these things day. daily, not monthly or, you know, yearly. For two years, they see it daily. And we're not able to figure out what it is. Like, and this is, we have a top-notch military, right? Yeah. I mean, top-notch. So how can we not figure it?

We have one of the most advanced militaries in the world. And I'm just wondering, like, if these things are hovering over the ocean and then going, it looks like they splash and go down. it's got to be some kind of flying object that can also fly. Well, obviously it's flying, yeah. And it can also go through water. Well, the thing about the water, the thing about the water situation is, is that, okay,

Bob Lazard in his account of UFOs, and Bob Lazarzor supposedly worked or allegedly worked at Area S4, Area 51, back in the 80s. And his working at Area 51, you know, he was the main one that, came out and said that, hey, he was an astrophysicist, which he was. Many reports say he was there at Los Alamos. He was there at their area.

If they can prove that, he came out and said that, you know, they had me trying to reverse engineer some kind of spacecraft. And every account that he had back then, way back then, as far as this thing had no propulsion, it was spherical. He believed that these crafts created their own gravity field. Which is how they moved at light speeds and whatever speed they wanted to. All scientists and everything leading up to that will also agree with, hey, if you have your own gravity field, you can kind of manipulate whatever you want to. So you can manipulate the air, the space, or water. Yeah. But I think that a lot of people have seen like strange things in the sky or around the water are not necessarily just spherical.

I think people have seen them like triangular. They've seen them in different shapes. Sometimes they see one Sometimes they see them in groups Like a big one with like a group that spits out through it Or just groups kind of going together Like we're always looking at the skies We are

I mean and you don't know You don't know always Like you're always looking for it You know because I want to see it I want to see something like that Matt what do you think Matthew Pilot Matt Well just give them what we're talking about

Yeah Matt Yeah you're probably right Matthew, we're talking about this new spacecraft. Have you heard any of our podcast or no? So far. I have not heard so far. Okay. So we've basically been talking about the fact that, you know,

David Fravor, I'm sure you've heard of that account, you know, when they, that fighter, fighter wing F-18 unit, off the coast of California, experienced that Tick-TAC UFO that they called on Fleer system or whatever. Yes. Okay, so now there is a new UFO video, which Jeremy Corboh.

Released and Jeremy Corbell got this from the Navy and Navy and Pentagon has confirmed it is real, but this was in 2019, this particular video, but this video shows this spacecraft, very similar looking to what the Navy Commander David Fravers F-18 unit intercepted off the coast of California looks the same, very, very similar, but in this instance, this thing goes down into the water, splashes down, goes into the water, goes into the water, They send a submarine to investigate to see where the wreckages or any of that can't, they don't find anything. And even in David Fravers case, when their F-18s intercepted off the coast of California, the same situation kind of happened. But this thing went down to the water level. They said there was a massive disturbance at the water when it went down, even though they didn't think it was from the UFO itself. They thought it was something coming from the water. But Matthew, what do you think, I guess the last thing we were talking about is,

the possibility of foreign adversary and the fact that our government has ignored it forever but do you really think it is even possible for a foreign country to have technology that far, that much more advanced than us? You know, I ever get at the top, but I do think it's possible

especially after the latest videos that have come out because it's just too hard to explain what you're seeing. So you think it's possible that another country has that technology? I think it's possible.

Okay. All right. So from a flight instructor's standpoint, so obviously physics plays a huge role on so many things. But, you know, when you have these things, I think they've captured on satellite, Lou Alizano said, you know, these objects, some of these objects traveling as much as 13,000 miles per hour. Pulling G forces that are just incapable for a human body to ever sustain.

without some kind of manipulation of gravity in some ways. Then people talk about, well, maybe it's a drone type situation. But even a drone situation, like, how would they not utilize that, you know, number one, in their aircraft, I guess you can say. I mean, you think about China, they came out with a new similar F-35 jet. I can't remember what it's called, like the YF something. Russia has one

That's kind of like Trying to be like our F-22 Which the Russian one is the closest one we have But like why would they be Trying to compete with us fighter jet wise And still not even making it to that level Both China and Russia And yet we

We have something that is flying at 13,000 miles per hour And something that our own military Has no way of figuring out what the hell it is Yeah, how do you get that? far technologically ahead. I mean, yeah. Well, to me, Chad, like, you're asking Matthew, and to me, maybe if they did,

maybe they don't want us to know it. Who? Like our foreign, like, if it, I'm going, like, on Matthew's side, like, if it was a foreign adversary or whatever, adversary, maybe they would not be coming out and, like, showing what they have. Like, there's, it's a secret, you know? it's like a way of battle. I just don't believe it's possible.

The thing that gets me is, you know, with America, you know, we're top dog at just about everything. How did, if it is a foreign country, how do we never catch on to it? Yeah. Usually countries don't make things without us figuring them out. And you know, you know why that is, Matthew? Do you know how much, like, advanced satellite imagery shit we have in space that like no country does anything without us knowing it.

Like North Korea thinks about making a nuclear weapon and we see them moving their freaking trucks from one site to another. Like how the hell... Then you give them a phone call, I highly recommend you don't do that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like, we know when freaking countries move a truck. Yeah, so how would we not know this technology?

Yeah, I get what you're saying completely, Chad. And I agree. I mean, I just don't think it's possible for anyone on Earth to have this kind of technology where you have a plane flying in you know in the sky Matthew probably didn't think about that that's why I wanted to bring it up well and I just want to ask Matthew that have you could you ever think of a plane that could fly in the sky and then dive underground like not underground underground yeah there's water there are ones that do that but they die yeah but when that goes from underground they usually stay there put it that's about it

Well, I'm meaning from the sky to the water. Like, I know there's planes that can land on water. Well, those are, and the weird thing is it. No, there's planes that there's planes that can land on water, but there's not planes that can, like, really go under water. Are there? Yeah, Matthew. Yeah, how do you hit the water with that much force in anything in it, not just disintegrate?

Yeah, do you have your submarine rating yet? I don't know if you do. No, not yet. I was trying to get that by next summer. So are you saying that? Well, I mean, from your standpoint, Matthew, do you think it's possible for any aircrafts that we have now? No, I'm asking Matthew. Sorry.

That we're, you know, you can fly a craft. You can fly a craft and you can land it, not just land it, but you can just submerge underwater and then fly underwater. No, there's nothing remotely close to that that exists. Well, I mean, the thing is, is that those are two totally different technologies. flying and underwater are two completely different technical. I mean, like what, like first of all, think about this, Matthew, the things that you need for both flight and underwater are completely opposite. And let me tell you why.

Underwater, you need thick, steel, heaviness to deal with the pressure, number one. And you need a completely different, first of all, you need some kind of propulsion system. You have to have that underwater to move. Right. Well, I mean, airplanes do have that. I get it, but not underwater. Yeah, but what if you made something? Totally different type of propulsion.

But Sherry, what I'm saying is the airplanes are built to be as light as possible to fly in the air. And if you put something light as possible to fly in the air and put it underwater, it's going to float. No. Well, that or it's going to be crushed. Because of the pressure of the water going underwater. The deeper it goes, it'll disintegrate. So it's got to be light as a feather. But heavy is a still.

Yeah. Pretty much. Or it has to control its own environment. Yeah, I just, I don't see any feasible way how those videos make sense. It's insanity. And I mean, the thing is, you know, what if we did create it and, you know, the fighter pilot wasn't supposed to see it? But still, I don't get, how is technology that far ahead with certain things and so far, behind with other things.

Yeah, like, why are we still trying to get to the moon with a rocket? Yeah, like, why are we still trying to get to the moon when we could, I mean, if you can go from flying down to the Titanic in like 30 seconds, why is the moon even hard? That should just be like a Tuesday afternoon. I'm going to go get Chick-fil-A and then we're going to run to the moon. Yeah. We should be at that point. Well, and, you know, Matthew, like, I mean, from aviation's perspective, we're in, and

And, you know, do we know anything that is, like, what is the most advanced thing we have aviation-wise, period? I mean, is it probably the F-35 slash F-22? Is that probably the most advanced thing? I would say that's our newest, most advanced. Unless the government is hiding stuff that we don't know about, just like these files. I mean, there's a lot of things that are being hidden from the public. Or even, like, aviation. Like, we don't, I mean, who knows, guys?

What if they are doing something that Lazar created way back in Area 51, and we have no idea? Maybe they do have technology, and we don't know, but it's going to blow our minds if they do. I just don't see it. I mean, there's so many things that we could use that technology. We don't see it. But we look in. the sky and we're like, is that a UFO? Is it not? No, I get it. Well, we don't do that.

It might be that or it might not be that. But we don't know what I guess I'm saying is the government covers up so much. And there's so many things that are hidden from the public that who knows? Maybe there are like advanced things going on. Yeah. Which I get too. But you would think they would include our top pilots in the military and that. Oh, by the way, don't go.

chase after this. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I mean, and even better yet, like, you know, the top pilots, I mean, people have to realize, man, F-18 pilots that are especially commanders and stuff in the military, like, who the hell else are you going to get to be ahead of this operation? I just, it doesn't make sense to me how the top pilots in our military are clueless.

They're speaking out and saying something's up with this. Well, even the top anything is clueless. Yeah. Like our intelligence directors, our national security directors, all of these people. Are they act clueless? At least. No, I don't think they act. I just don't believe that.

Which, by the way, Rich Semption, who, you know, who we have coming on after this. He has a, yeah, he has a different opinion on it. But I just wonder if they're not so clueless, but they were not allowed to, like, tell all. And even if when these files come out, you know, we're going to get the public version, but we're not going to get the, you know, secretive version. So who knows what they know? I'll be honest with you. I bet you they know more than what we think.

I don't believe that this thing is from our earth. I don't believe it. No, I don't think so either. But I think that our government. I know you're trying to be devil's advocate, but. No, I'm just saying I think our government knows more than we think. Oh, probably. Yeah, absolutely.

That's what I'm saying. And I think that they have been sworn to secrecy and the public can't know because I fear. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't get, I mean, you have people like Elon Musk, right? Over here making rockets doing insane things. Nothing he's created is remotely close to this. No, nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I mean, he has, he has Teslas, you know, that's pretty cool. Oh, and didn't he, like, put a Tesla in space? Yeah, he sent it on a rocket. He sent it on combustible fuels, which is so damn modern. or so old age shit. And listen, Matthew, well, contradictory there aren't weeping.

Yeah, and Chad and I have been so excited to watch this rocket launch for the last six days. We've gone to the golf course every day to watch a rocket. When it launched, we didn't see the damn thing. But we're so excited about this kind of technology, right? I'm just trying to prove a point here. What? Well, no, I mean, yeah. And that's the thing.

I think, you know, Elon Musk, he is probably the smartest person in our plant, Not an airplane. Well, maybe an airplane. But he's sending rockets up with fuel. He's still having rockets blow up on the launch pad of things he's trying to make to where we can safely put people, astronauts down on the surface of Mars. And these things have blown up, what, nine times now? I think the last time finally it didn't blow up. Yeah, it didn't blow up finally.

But it was still on fire. But think about this. This is all combustible fuels. The things we're talking about. Has nothing to do with fuel? Nothing to do with any of that. This is something completely different. And I'll be honest with you.

I truly believe if another country had this technology or even us, they or we would rule this world hands down, and there would be nothing any way I could do about it. Yeah, no, I mean, you would have zero worry about any foreign affairs because I think you'd make it pretty well known that you could take out whoever you wanted. I don't think it's ours and I don't think it's anyone else's because we're always, ahead. Yeah.

I agree with you, Matthew. There's any way anyone else came up with it. Definitely not China. Yeah, I don't, you know, and the thing is, I mean, militarily, I mean, crazy enough, a lot of people don't understand this, but, you know, as far as technology and military and fighter jets and all that stuff, I mean, Russia in a lot of cases, Russia leads the world in many cases over China, especially if we. ever gotten a war, full-scale war. I'm not talking

about brute force of people. I'm talking about technology of their weaponry. Russia in a lot of cases leads the way on that. But I think that China is trying to lead the world in other aspects, like launching these rockets

and building their own space station so that they can be sovereign over everyone else. Yeah. Can you tell me what happened to China's rocket they launched this? But why do you keep talking me? I'm asking, tell me what China's rocket, what happened when China's rocket.

Oh, I know what happened to is their rocket, but this is their plan is what I'm saying. No, I get it. I get what you're saying. You guys can talk about that. I'm just giving you something to talk about it. I'm asking you. I'm asking you. What happened to China's rocket?

You made it. I'm making a point. It went out of control. Exactly. And we didn't know where it was going to land on Earth. We thought maybe it was going to go into the Pacific Ocean. Exactly. It might land on New York.

We did not know until like maybe 12 hours before it came into our atmosphere. Do you think those fools have that technology? And it ended up going into the Indian Ocean. No, of course not. If they're launching a rocket that goes out of control. Yeah, they can't control. But they're trying to be the leaders of, they're trying to be leaders is what I'm trying to say. But I get what you're saying.

Yeah, I was making a point out of your point. I think China's always been one of those. They try to be up there with us. but China's never going to be up there with us. I agree. I don't think we will ever let China get close to being up there with us. Yeah, and I was making a point off Sherry's point. I mean, China's saying a lot, China's saying a lot about like we want to be,

like, didn't they say that they want to own the moon and work? In the space system. Yeah, they want to own the moon and they want to have their own space station. They don't want to have an international space station. Yeah, they can't even launch a rocket that they can control. Yeah, and then it's... Well, see, what China needs to understand, we put an American flag on the moon,

and anytime we put the American flag on something, we take it, and we don't ever give it back, so they should probably just go ahead and give that one up. Matthew, I said supposedly. Supposedly. Allegedly, we put a flag on the moon. I'm going to need Elon to get up there and double check. Well, you know what?

I can't get up. there because you know we got UFOs going around but I still drive a car from 2006 with the fanciest option it has is cruise control so I'm not getting up there to check for myself so if you have that's a good point have you that's what we're still working on on earth you're teaching everybody to fly in planes from the 70s yeah so I mean how how are we at that point but possibly have UFOs at the same time I don't think there's any way we're connection to them. Well, even in the military, look at what their trainers are, T-38s, you know, the T-6 Texans, all of these aircraft are,

those are actually, I believe, from the 70s and 80s, especially the T-6 Texans. The T-6s are from the 70s and 80s. The T-45s are from, I think, late 80s, the early 90s. You know, all of these fighters

trainers that we're training our pilots that suppose like every pilot i'm not i'm not saying they don't just pick like 29 pilots that go train in a UFO you know every one of our pilots in the military train in old aircraft right from let me ask you matthew if you had an opportunity to get into some some kind of aircraft is out of this world would you take that opportunity or would you be scared to do it hell yeah oh absolutely yeah i mean what do you what do you what do you what do you think when what if you could imagine like a UFO today and you got into it what would you imagine it be like oh god let's not get back into this i have no idea but i will say this if you had the opportunity like the one that you saw that dove into the water let's say even when it

hit the water it just absolutely blew to smithereens and it wasn't supposed to because you imagine being the person that was flying it wouldn't that happen you know you get to go out and say you know look what i flew i mean yeah yeah Well, you don't get to say it. Well, obviously you don't get to say it. Yeah, there ain't no way in hell. Nobody can let you say that. That's one of those jobs.

You kind of have to brag about it before you do it. Yeah, hey, maybe Jeffrey Epstein was a UFO pilot. Maybe that's why he's no longer long. I mean, it's possible. It's possible. But Matthew, you do a lot of flying. Do you ever see like any weird things in the sky that you think could be or could not be something that you recognize or don't recognize or no?

Have you never came across anything like that? I don't... I've never seen anything out of the ordinary. It's hard enough to find planes as is at night. Yeah, I know, right. So you welcome anything. So you welcome to see like planes at night. But look, for regular pilots, though, babe, that's flying about, you know, it's not something that if fighter pilots can't,

can't intercept these things. You know, look. I sure I ain't intercepting it in the Cherokee. Or a bonanza. Going a hundred. Or any of that. I mean, even a little jet. I was just curious if Matthew, like sometimes, you know, I look in this, I second guess myself and look up in the sky.

I'm like, did I just see something? Is that a UFO? Like, I just wonder if you're in the sky and you see something like that ever. I think when you see a UFO, I think it's pretty obvious. That is, it's an obvious thing. Well, no, sometimes I see like planes going through the air. And they don't have a jet trail or something. Or they look odd.

I'm always looking, you know, I want to see something like that. But a UFO is going to be obvious. It's going to look different. It's going to act different. It's not going to follow usually a straight line at a slow looking speed in the sky. Right. You know, like, you know, you've got to think, these planes that you see up in the sky, even though they look slow going across the sky

they're still fast yeah they're going you know in some cases 6, 700 miles an hour yeah 500 miles an hour they look really slow so you know a UFO is going to be whipping through this guy or something that we don't know like how it was built so even something that you see way up there in the sky

and it's moving incredibly fast it's you know that you're going to know when something is different and I think until normal people until everyone saw sees something Like if you witness something that miraculous in real life. You're going to know it. Yeah, in real life, there's going to be, I don't care if you're a pilot or not.

There's going to be no doubt that this is not anything else. Or anything else we've ever seen. And keep in mind, these fighter pilots that are used to flying jets that go mocked to. Yeah. And they're seeing this stuff daily is what they say now. Two times the speed of sound. And they're in the best flying, you know, fast flying, like jets there are. But they're even amazed.

And I think that's the point. That's what's crazy. What do you think, Matthew? You think it's UFOs? Or do you think it's... I mean, I know in the beginning... Well, I know it's a UFO. But do you think it's out of this...

Well, here's the thing. This report this coming in June talks about that we have tracked these things on satellite. And which is a lot of people say, this is where I think the groundbreaking thing's going to come. So have we tracked them to where they entered our atmosphere? and didn't come from our atmosphere? Like, is that something we're going to find out?

Because if we can find that out, that's everything. Because normally everything we've seen with evidence is they're already in, like, our atmosphere. We don't see them coming down. There's no evidence of them coming down from space, right? The only evidence we see is them in our atmosphere, of the Earth atmosphere.

Well, we don't know that. We don't know if we've seen them come from space. No, we haven't, but I'm just saying from what evidence we see, That's when we track them. They're already in Earth's atmosphere, right? Yeah. And the only other thing that we really experienced seeing is them diving down to the ocean, which is really unexpected to us.

Yeah. What do you think, Matt? Yeah, that's the thing that gets me. So if this report comes out, it says they've been tracking it and tracked it coming into the atmosphere, meaning it had to have come from somewhere else because if it didn't, they didn't leave from here. It's not ours. My thing, is how are people going to react? Well, that's the thing.

You look at how everybody's panicked about the gas the past few days. Oh, God. What are people going to do when, by the way, there's UFOs going around that are not from here, which means the people on them are not from here. And no military in the world can keep up with it. So best of luck till you, happy Tuesday. Yeah, then you just got to hope that like whatever whatever faction of people that you're involved with,

they like your people better than the other people. Like, like, okay, these guys are assholes, these guys are cool. So look, when we blow everything up, just make sure you don't blow these people up. Yeah. I know that's like a harsh way to look at it. But, but I mean, the thing is, like, you know, there's reports of aliens and then UFOs back in ancient times.

I mean And so it's like You know This is not new But I will say that we've had more sightings now than ever Probably I mean Well to me

I'm just going to be honest with you both I think the more that's coming out with Like in the media In the news and with the government Is because they know these files are coming out And they're almost like preparing the public For what's going to come out Matthew said

Matthew said hey look man You know Look us what's happened with the gats I mean, in some circumstances, yes, we did have shortages. We did. But then look what happened with the freaking toilet paper. Yeah, it's panic. Like, why did we even buy toilet paper for COVID?

And I think that's why the government hides a lot of things from us because humans go under panic for anything. Humans are freaking morons. Yeah, they're going to buy all the toilet paper or the paper tiles. They will panic about anything. Well, and the big mistake the media made, which is, you know, they make mistakes 98% of the time. but that's another podcast. They say, heads up, don't panic. As soon as you say, don't panic, everybody goes,

oh my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, I got to go buy whatever it is. Like, oh, we're running out of Q-tips. People are going to, oh, my God, I need to go buy all the Q-tips. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter what it is. As soon as you say, don't panic, here's what it is about. People are going to panic about whatever it is. Well, I still go back to this theory of like, you know, and if aliens were, if aliens were mean or they didn't want us or they hated us or they were going to attack us, I think it would already happen. And we're just not any use of them.

I mean, like... Yeah, well, that's the thing. I mean, as crazy as that does sound, but you think about it, right? you think about the technology that you kind of see and just that even the one video of hold on just a just a second yeah I mean but yeah what I was saying is is even even the you know a lot of people say what if this is people from our future what if what if is us from the future yeah it could be us front of the future well and the thing is is so you think about the technology that you saw and everything and if they're that

They would have been to the point they could have entered our atmosphere and hung out if they wanted to a long time ago. So are we just not cool. You guys are talking about people from our future? No, I think he's just talking about UFOs in general. I'm sorry, someone walked up to my car. That's interesting. Was he a green guy? He's like, hey, I'm going to need you to quit talking about us on a podcast, okay?

Thanks. Well, Matthew, I just want to bring you on because I want to kind of get your podcast. opinion, you know, and, you know, from the, from the flight instructor standpoint, you fly a lot. And I don't know, man, it's going to be interesting to kind of see what happens with this. Yeah, I can't wait to see the June report. Like, I'm like head over hills waiting for that. And I just hope they give us enough information that I feel good about it. If they're going to, like, keep stuck for us. Yeah, bullshit us. I'm going to be mad. Like, I want to know the truth for. once. I've been looking at UFOs since I was a little girl and knowing about them and wondering

about them and they've been keeping this from us. We have a right to know. We do. We do. Matthew, any final thoughts before we let you go? I agree. I think we do deserve to know, but I don't think they're going to tell us anything. I honestly don't think much is going to come out in this report. Do you think this is a legitimate national security threat at the least? Well, it kind of goes back to what we talked about a minute ago is if they wanted to do something, they could have long since done it by now. Really could have done it on the eastern shoreline while everybody's sticking home because apparently there's no gas. So, I mean, I think if something bad was going to happen, it probably would have already happened. Yeah.

I agree with you, Matthew. I really do. I do. I think if it was something else, it would have already happened. I think maybe they just like to do their thing. they come here just do a few laps see what's up and then they go back. Debbie. Do a few laps on the track?

I think that real soon, as soon as we know, like more truths, maybe we'll understand more. I hope. I pray. I want to know more. I agree. Well, Matthew, thanks for coming on. We'll definitely going to bring you back on as soon as his report is released, which will be very soon.

We've got a couple weeks. Yeah, a couple weeks. Hopefully it'll be out. But thank you for coming on, Matthew. you and we'll definitely talk to you very soon. And by the way, we got your shirt of the Mexican aliens. Yes, we got it in it.

It looks amazing. It's actually my favorite shirt of the bunch. Yeah, I love it. Love it. I'm looking forward to it myself. The only thing we didn't do is put Koso and chips and Koso and yeah, but we didn't put a little taco.

But same to add your address. I'm wearing we eat Mexican and I'll get so dip on it. That'll be close enough. All right, Matthew, well, have a great night and thank you were coming on. Absolutely.

So yeah, that was Matthew. I was just curious kind of what it was Penny was. We're going to call Rich now and see what Rich is opinion. I think Rich has a little different opinion on, you know, his thoughts on this. Yeah, and Rich is, you know, we just called him at the spur in the moment. So we're just bringing him on just like we did Matthew. But that's what's good is we got to get opinions the way you feel and the way you think at that time, you know? So, yeah, I think Rich, I think he agrees.

agree somewhat, but we'll see what Rich wants to say. Yeah, Rich, well, and I really look forward to what Rich says. And I actually, I actually asked him, I actually, well, we called him. I said, hey, I want your opinion on this. And he said, well, you know, I don't know exactly what you want to talk about, but, you know, I kind of have my own opinions. And I said, look, say whatever you want to say, you know, I'll say what I think, regardless of, you know, what your opinion is. We love opinions. We love conversation.

That's what we're going to do. Yeah, that's what we all love. And that's what we love about this podcast. is we can all discuss things, and that's what's awesome about this podcast. Well, Rich, how is it going? I thank you for joining us. You are here with us, right? Yes, I am.

It's nice to talk with you again, Chad and Sherry. Yeah, thanks for, thanks for your sentence here. Hey, Rich. We're glad that you came spontaneously. I'm sorry that we put you on the, like, button. No, I wanted to call you because the podcast that you came on is doing really well, and so I think people really find value in what you say. And I know, you know, I know your opinion, and Rich, you know, to preface this, you know, on this podcast,

and we've talked about a lot of conspiracy subjects. We've talked about a lot of subjects and involved all kinds of crazy things that many people either believe or don't believe. But one of the things that we talk about, and one of the things I guess that we're most passionate about and probably believe the most is the, is the, is the, you know, UFO alien thing. Just based on all the evidence that is out there, at least, or all the circumstantial evidence and all the videos that are coming out.

We've talked about Bigfoot. We've talked about all of these things. Bigfoot's one of those things. It's really hard for me to wrap my head around. Oh, even like dreams. You're not into that. You're not into ghosts and things like that. I mean, I do believe they're ghosts and stuff like that.

But the alien thing is. It's just, it's very intriguing to me. And now we have this new video that's come out. Jeremy Corbell got it released. We talked about it earlier in the podcast, but, you know, Jeremy Corbell had this video released. The Pentagon and both Navy confirmed that it is a actual video and that they cannot explain what it is.

This thing splashed down in the water and went underwater. We sent a submarine to go investigate to see where, if there was any crash debris or any of that stuff, we found nothing. Apparently, this is not a singular incident. This happens, there was one pilot that said every other day for two years. That they see things like this. What is your thoughts, rich, number one, on the UFO aspect of it?

Just give them one question. Well, no, it's two. But the number two thing is like, you know, is this UFOs? And regardless of whether it is or isn't, should this not be one of the biggest national security threats that our country has ever faced if this isn't? You know, it's been a number and many years. And, you know, I'm convinced that there's definitely, you know, they're real in the sense that there is definitely things that appear in the sky and that we've seen for years. There's been all kinds of video footage. And for the most part, it's been swept under the rug, you know.

And now it appears that it might be time for the powers. it be to unveil some of it and caution people be careful because how can we expect the government, the military, and their 100% controlled media outlets who have lied about practically every single thing, you know, for the last, you know, for decades to suddenly start telling the truth about UFOs. So, you know, so I would. definitely take

everything including their video footage with a grain assault doesn't mean I don't you know

I'm disputing it at all I mean I think it's it's you know there's more than enough

there has been for years more than enough evidence to show that this is a very real phenomenon the question is

what is it and there could be a number of different things it doesn't mean that one UFO citing is the same as another UFO exciting.

There could be numerous causes and numerous factors behind all this. But I wanted to just mention a writer that I read a book of his way back, probably in the 70s, and he was a French guy named Jacques Vaget or Valet. And he was one of Europe's top UFO researchers, and he was actually a consultant for the movie Close and counters of the third kind with Richard Dreyfus. That was, I don't know if you guys are familiar. Oh, yeah. That's like one of my favorite movies ever.

Yeah, great movie. Well, he was actually, he was also in the movie. He had a little cameo, this French researcher in the movie itself, but he was consulted. And, you know, that's where I first heard of them. And I thought, you know, I got a whole of this book. And it was like, what he was saying, and this is just his opinion, and it doesn't doesn't count anything else. he said that his extensive UFO research has led him to believe that a lot of it, not all of it necessarily,

but a lot of it is phenomena possibly coming from an other dimension. These are interdimensional craft. And I remember when I first heard that, I was like, it's not what I wanted to hear. I was more of the idea that these UFOs were real and they were coming from Mars and they had Martians in them or grayed in them and and. Or a physical thing is what you're saying. Yeah, like. Yeah. But I think interdimensional things are still physical too.

Yeah, I agree. They just originate from something besides outer space, more like inner space. So anyway, I remember I didn't care for that because I just really wanted. one of the old classical, you know, Martian kind of thing. But I remember reading that. And over the years, I've come to think that that could be closer. But again, that doesn't discount. There could be multiple things.

Just for fun, I wanted to mention some of the other things, because we all tend to default to the traditional, you know, they come in a crap that, you know, solid, some strange type of, mineral that we don't have here on this planet, and that these are creatures and everything's very physical. Well, that's one possibility. But a couple other ones

for UFOs, and again, I think that I really believe that they come from, there are multiple origins. It's not just one. But one of the possibilities is secret military technology, that it's actually a technology that originates right here on Earth.

earth and it's secret and it could be, you know, unified by, you know, different countries to explore, you know, these secret technologies and they might be allowing, you know, pictures of them to be taken so that, you know, things can be revealed. The other possibility is interdimensional craft with interdimensional beings. So, Rich, let me just ask you with that right now. This is what I'm trying to like focus on with when you're saying interdimensional. It's kind of like I'm trying to like make sense of what you're saying. So if you're looking at a star, right, and you see the star of the sky, but the star, the star is already gone, right? So it's it kind of interdimensional in that aspect. I don't think that's what interdimensional. Yeah, but it's like

it's something that's coming here. That's on time aspect. That's a time aspect. That's a time aspect. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, interdimensional, what I'm talking about is just other than, and it could be a number of things, but other than physical. Because when we tend to think of everything in physical terms. Right. But if I can tell you about it, I had a UFO experience back when I was 18 years old,

and it was profound. I mean, I'll never forget it. And I, at the time, I was talking. just getting, you know, accustomed to the term UFO. Because this was very early on, you know, in history. I think Barney and Betty Hill were some of the first people that claimed to be abducted. And they actually came to my high school, if you can believe that, and gave a talk. Wow.

So you're in the same area as them. Yeah. Yeah, back east. So I could say that you could have an encounter, like in the same area. Yeah. But anyway, so, but I was not that. I hadn't read any UFO books at the time, and I was just getting used to the concept

that that could be something that was real. Anyway, long story short, I'm walking in a field with a couple friends next to my housing development I lived in in Pennsylvania, and I looked up over my house no more than probably 2,300 feet. So we're not talking like some star, a big star in the sky. We're talking about like boom, it was like right there. And in my mind, it was, I thought, oh, my God, it's a helicopter.

And the only thing is, and I remember thinking a helicopter that made no sound whatsoever. I mean, this helicopter didn't look anything like a helicopter, but that was the only reference I had for what it could possibly be something very bright with all kinds of lights kind of circulating within this super bright. orb that was over my house. So I just went with a helicopter. And it's like, well, you know, within a year or two,

I'm thinking, wait a minute, there's no helicopters that are completely silent. And there's no helicopters that, that, you know, have lights that are just, you know, bright and just, it's like this gyroscopic lights just circulating throughout this orb of really bright light.

And then, you know, a few years later, I'd go, that was a UFO, you know. And then a few years later, maybe after reading more about it, I thought, you know, there was something about that that seemed, you know, it seemed more than just some piece of metal, you know what I mean? It seemed like it was, I don't even want to say the word angelic, but it was like something not physical. Like I wonder if you shot at it, you know, a bullet would have gone right through it. Right through it. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was thinking too.

So I don't know. I don't know what that was, but it was a really cool experience for me and very vivid, very close. I mean, literally a couple hundred feet over my house. Right. But I became over time, I've become more comfortable with the idea that there's, that some UFO could be interdimensional, which would explain a lot of things, how some of them can disappear and appear, you know, just like, whoa, it was there, and then all of a sudden it wasn't.

But one more possible, and I think there's other than it's just the ones that I have written down here, but another one would be human time travelers, and that from another time, they mastered this technology. So, I mean, from the future, right?

a couple ideas, but I do think that for whatever reason, and weren't some crazy times these days, that there could be an unveiling of UFOs in general for some other agenda that we may be able to figure out maybe once it progresses. So think about this, Rich. You just talked about the time thing. and this is going to be like a mind-bending exercise we're about to go through. And you talk about interdimensional, and I want to talk about this because I think

when I'm thinking of interdimensional, and I think people that are listening to this podcast right now, they're probably trying to wrap their heads around what does interdimensional mean. And specifically, if it is human time travelers, right? If it's somebody, say, from human civilization, well, let's think, think about it for a second. Say that 70 years from now, we figure out a way to manipulate black holes. Right now, we know scientifically,

if you watch the movie Interstellar, they talk about black holes and how that manipulates time. If you go through a wormhole and Albert Einstein kind of proved the wormhole theory as far as as civilization, or as far as time. But say you go through a wormhole, go through a black hole or whatever the case may be.

Some scientists have even said if aliens from outside of our solar system but far away find a craft or a way to manipulate black holes and wormholes, they believe that is a way to travel, you know, far beyond time, I guess you can say. But thinking about this, 70 years from now, 100 years from now, say that we figure out a way, right now we're in 2021 but say 70 years from now say that we're beyond 70 years from now we don't even know it

say we're I know it sounds crazy this is what I'm talking about interdimensionally say that we are far beyond our time already and we just don't realize it we're already 100 years advanced and we don't know it but say that 100 years from now we find a way to manipulate time

to go back in time to figure out ways to manipulate all that stuff what if a hundred years from now we figure out a way that we're in space we figure out a way to go through black holes

or bend time or warp time to where we can either go forward or backwards well I think that's going to happen well but what if it already has and we just don't know it it could have

and and that could be people are experiencing is you know people from the future possibility Rich how would I want to cut you off here because I want to

your opinion on this because I'm trying to wrap my brain around and I can't right now. How would you wrap your brain around? Okay, so say it is people from the future. Why are we here right now? How does that work? Like from us right now, like what would you be here? Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, I understand like us coming back from the future,

but why are we here now seeing us from the future? I know that sounds weird. I don't know. I think the question of time, time itself, is, It's not as real as we think it is. They can't get my head around time, to be honest. Some interesting... Time to me is a total mystery.

I can, you know, I can... more easily to manipulate than we realize it is, and at least once a week... They believe that particle accelerators, that, you know, I don't know, the most famous one is called CERN. It's over in Switzerland. Yeah.

They really believe that these particle accelerators are for time travel, and that we can do it now and that right now people are time traveling from our present time that are going, God knows where, future, past, I don't even know. But these people that, my friends

who are into this, they're not, I mean, they may have some crackpot ideas, but these are some smart people. I can barely keep up. I can barely keep up with them. Hey, Rich, if you had to go in the future or the past and you had a time travel machine, which would you go?

Future or past? Yeah, you don't. only have one option. I passed. You go in the past? I'd go past because I love history. I really love to see. Yeah, that was weird.

You just said it automatically. So what past would you go to? Like, what time period? Because there's dangerous times. Oh, my God, I don't even know because, again, you know, I've been checking out, again, some of these same people are these groups of people that I've met. on the internet, they have these ideas that the history is the timeline and the whole historical narrative is not, it's fictionalized. And so, whether it is or it isn't, I mean, even before

I ever heard that stuff, it's been a history buff. And I would, I love, I would love to go back and, you know, especially see that. Yeah, even like Atlanta, it wasn't Atlanta? It wasn't it was supposed to be a beautiful city back in the day? It was crazy to me is like, even like the people, from our past, I think they knew more about aliens and alien life and have more like contact with aliens. Yeah. Like ancient people, yeah. Yeah, than we do now. Yeah. I think so too. I really think that part of the cover up of extraterrestrial, even if it's interdimensional, that's extraterrestrial. So that would even fall into that. I think all that stuff for years because, you know, I know we talked One of the things, spiritsies, it encompasses a lot, is a material.

The people that are, our controllers know these dimensions and these beings and these spiritual beings, light beings, and they are in touch with that. It deals with these non-physical entities as a way of, if they're doing that, one of the most important things is getting the masses of people to believe in the physical realm, that materialism is the end. When they know full well, it's not. And so that's why I call the ultimate conspiracy is the materialism conspiracy,

the trick the masses of people to think and to be afraid of dying, you know, to think this is really all there is. When they know full well, there's tons more. So I think that the UFOs and all this stuff do fall in that. I agree. I agree too, Rich.

Rich, you know. Like, you're opening my brain to so many other avenues right now. Yeah, you know, you know what's funny is like, there's a certain amount of people that always, that always try to say that, like, if you can prove aliens, for some reason they believe, if you can prove aliens from a scientific standpoint, then you can prove a non-existent of a God or an afterlife. I believe that is the furthest of the truth. I believe it's the exact opposite, in my opinion. But, you know, back to the alien thing, we were talking about time travel.

We talk about like, okay, so say that you could time travel on Earth, but I think space and parts of space, and there are many places in space that are the time machines. They are natural occurring places in space, black holes, wormholes, these things actually exist. These things are scientifically proven to exist. The only questions we've ever really had was is how would you survive a wormhole or a black hole? because of the sheer power and volume of that thing. Of us in this dimension. Yes. Like if we're going to talk about dimensions,

we've got to talk about in this dimension. But that itself is a time machine. Yeah, it is. In this dimension. But maybe people travel these things in the future. I agree. If you're smart enough, you know. Like right now, we're just trying to get to the moon.

We're trying to get to Mars, right? Yeah. But we're new. Yeah, we're like just peons in this universe. Think about billions of years. You've had technology. advanced and you've you've now went outside of your solar system you have a craft that you have created that you can travel black holes because you've created a gravity field around you and then you

you basically take off light years through black holes and maybe this is the future like earth people I mean we don't know yeah we don't like rich said it could be the future us even though I don't think we're nowhere close to the only people in this universe no I think there are people that are far more advanced and intelligent and we are in this universe by far Right. Right. Oh, yeah. And I forgot. There's one other, one other source of this UFO technology as a possibility that I forgot to mention. And that's from inside the earth. You know, and again, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, oh, yeah, I believe this and that. But, you know, there have been many books written on it. There are people that swear that there is civilized inside the earth. And underneath the earth. Yeah. And that they access their places in the earth from the sea.

Yes, exactly. A lot of these crafts, like the one that we just thought that you told me about to look at that was just released. You know, they go right from the air right into the water. They're gone. And that's their like. Some people say they're accessing actual underwater portals to this inner earth civilization. So, I mean, these are all possibilities, and I've seen enough crazy stuff to be open to all of it. Well, maybe Satan, maybe Satan has finally given people.

Satan? Yes. What are you talking? Why are you bringing Satan in it is? Because in the Bible, it talks about, like, hell might be in the center of the earth or whatever, the core. So maybe Satan's, like, given some people special privileges now. They get a spacecraft and they can go, like. Chad.

I'm just kidding. That was stupid. But it is funny. But no, I mean, I'm being serious. Like, this spacecraft that we just saw on the TV, like are on YouTube or whatever, it was hovering and then it went down to the ocean. And I'm not, that's not the only spacecraft I've seen. Yeah, Rich, you know, the thing we were talking about with. I think that some of them are under like the sea or the ocean or somewhere.

Yeah, but you are like making light of it. No, no, no, no, it was a joke. But my point is, pilot Matt, what we were just talking about before you, Rich, is, you know, from aviation's perspective, you know, something that can fly. All aircraft are designed for lightness. You know, there's like the United States military and all of our best technology, we're always trying to find parts and pieces and metals and all this stuff that have, number one, you know, secret. I can't even think of the freaking word lightness number one you want to be as light as possible

and you want to be covert you don't want to be seen on radar that's everything is going stealth you have to be light as a feather to fly and then like enough to like go under the ocean yes but everything is going stealth and change your stuff or whatever

the point is that underwater you have to be heavy there's a difference it's like you have in underwater you've got to be thick and heavy and brute but maybe the materially doesn't even have to be like that Maybe the material is unknown to us. I get it.

I'm talking about from a standpoint of like it is a civil, like it is China, Russia, or us. It's not that. We had to have somehow figured. I know. I'm just saying we had to have somehow figured out a way to make, to crossbreed the lightness of air travel and the sheer hardness and bruteness of sea travel. Right. Again, again, and, you know, I wouldn't dispute that. But remember, you're thinking in purely physical terms, you know, according to the, it doesn't mean that there are used possibly by us.

I mean, I wouldn't put it past, you know, analogy. Because there's so much, the other thing is that I think we have to bring into the equation is how secretive and how the American public, We are constantly being mind-controlled, lied to. So even on a basis of science, there's a lot of things that, you know, we're dealing with a decked kind of stacked against us to really understand. And there's one thing I wanted to bring up that I think really should enter, can enter, and doesn't have to, into the talk about UFOs and things. And again, this could be a topic for another discussion.

you know because there is a third and i agree and i'm i'm of that and it's not a 100% sure but again so so when you have that and then and then we're it makes me question almost every everything that in the rich it's funny it's funny you brought that up because like our podcast on the moon landing is like the number one podcast about moon landing conspiracy or just just the whole because we pretty much proved why we couldn't go to the, we proved it. Yeah, we did. We proved why they can't go to the moon. In two episodes, we proved it. Yeah, not only did we prove it, it wasn't like we were just saying stuff scientifically. We just found research to prove that. We had clips of NASA scientists saying things of all this stuff.

Honestly, out of all of our podcast, if you want the most factual type, like, is there anything they're going to prove? Like, I would think the moon landing is one of the biggest thing. Yeah, but I think what Rich is saying is like, okay, here is a civilization that can't even get to the moon, but then we're talking about time travel and interdimensional things. I guess that's my point. This is a whole like loop of different things going on at once. And Rich, you know, that rocket. Like I totally get what Rich is saying. I totally do.

And the China rocket that they just launched. I mean, you know, they freaking, it's out of control. You know, China, in comparison I don't think you're getting it. I am getting it. China in comparison. But it doesn't really have to do with anything that's happening on Earth. No, I am getting what I'm saying.

Look, I understand that aspect of it. But what I'm saying is, is I'm talking about a physical thing still. I think the biggest argument, I guess my point is to this, is the biggest argument anybody, I would say 90% of you are going to argue, is the argument versus UFO's physical grays versus foreign adversaries that have technology more advanced than we do, or we have that technology. I believe that is the biggest. Or it's interdimensional. No, but that's not the biggest argument.

I know that's not the argument. There's 2% of people that are going to think that, Sherry. I get that. I'm just saying that's another theory. I get it. But what I'm saying is the biggest argument. is aliens or us, right? That's it.

2% of people are thinking interdimensional. Whereas interdimensional could be a very valid topic. It could be one of the most valid topics. But my point is that I think right now we have to prove people versus something else. And like, and I guess that's where my standpoint. How do you prove people versus interdimensional? I don't. You can't.

I don't think you have to prove people versus interdimensional. You can't. You just have to, you just have to disprove its people. And then everything. You're saying it's not other people. Gotcha. Yeah, you just got to disprove us, our people. But one interesting thing that could really, you know, muddy that choice is that it could be both.

You know, I mean it doesn't mean that they're all from the same place. You know, I have a feeling. that when it comes to UFOs, there's so much real stuff out there, you know, entities and aliens. I totally believe it's real, but I also think there's a lot of, you know, false constructs that are meant to mislead us because it just seems to me they've always, the controllers have always just wanted to get us chasing, you know, funny little fake things. And so, and it's a huge question. And I'm really, you know, I'm really pleased you invited me to talk about this because. Yeah, Rich, last question. Why now?

Why now? Like that, that's my last question. Why are we seeing and hearing all this now? Yeah, great question. Great question. Because I'd say, because we are obviously for a number of reasons on the threshold, unfortunately, of a new era where lots of things are going to change. So it would only make sense that that's going to change too.

You know, the entire, you know, they talk about the Great Reset. And, you know, if you were in this process of the Great Reset. And, of course, some people say, oh, it's an economic reset. And some will say, oh, it's economic and societal reset. Some say it's economic, societal, and metaphysical reset. And I think it's all the above. And I think that now it makes perfect sense that, you know, this stuff is going to be unveiled for purposes of distracting us,

purpose of deceiving us, purpose of... I just unfortunately don't believe. believe that in the generosity and the kindness of the people running the show. So I have a feeling if I, oh, they're throwing us a bone. They actually want us to be closer to the reality. So, you know, I'm afraid that I'm just suspicious of the narrative that's giving us this UFO stuff all of a sudden. this has been around for years and

I think that there's got to be some ulterior motives for it but nevertheless I'm open I'm open and I'm super up for considering and looking at pretty much anything that comes out yeah that's awesome

well Rich I absolutely agree yeah I absolutely agree yeah thank you so much for coming on it's always good talking to you By the way, guys, all of you can go check out Rich's book, The Conspiracy Diaries on Amazon. And Rich, I think you're working on a new book as well. And what is that about?

The shape of a... It's more of a book on synchronicities and unusual coincidences that defy... Cool. Anyway, thank you. Both of you. I really appreciate you talking with me. and let's stay in touch. Yeah, for sure, Rich.

Thank you so much. And we'll see, we'll not see. Well, we actually may see you soon. You said you're coming to South Carolina soon, so we might have to do a little video podcast. Yeah, that would be awesome. That'd be fun. But yeah, Rich, thank you so much, and we'll talk to you soon.

Great. Thank you both. Take care. All right, bye-bye. Guys, that was Rich Simpson, and, you know, it's always good hearing his opinion on things, because he always has this. He does. He has so many different crazy, not crazy. They're great opinions. They're very, they're informed. They're intellectual. They're well thought out.

But you think about things in another like perspective that you don't normally think about things. And that's what's really cool about Rich is because he makes you think outside the box. He does. It's weird, man. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like anymore. It's like people just believe whatever they hear on on the media. There are. so many things that are going on in our brains nowadays that we wake up we check our phones we check our internet we watch the TV and and I think if you do anything enough you know there's an algorithm to Google

there's an algorithm to Facebook there's an algorithm to all these things and there's an algorithm to your brain they got an algorithm from your brain literally I mean if you start talking about mathematical equations of patterns and behavior Algorithms that Google uses to suggest searches

And Facebook to suggest ads And Facebook to suggest who you should be friends with And who shouldn't All those things are also Being programmed in our brains by media The more media you see If you see 12 media outlets saying certain things You're going to believe it

It's an algorithm. It programs your brain Oh, it's just the same thing with the radio When you hear a song over and over and over Whether you, the first time you hear it, you hate it at first. Yeah. And then you're singing it and you think it's great. And then after a while, then you're singing it. You're like, oh my God, that's my favorite song.

It's a brainwashing. Yeah. It's exactly the same thing. It is. And I'm not saying the UFO thing's brainwashing. We've believed in the UFO thing well before now the media is picking up on it. Yeah, but I think that we're just trying to dive deeper and we're getting like experienced people, not experience. Well, you know, people that are like really.

Well, they think all different kinds of ways. Yeah. Just thinking outside of our box, like, really makes me think more than just like, oh, these files are coming out in June. Like, there's some big stuff coming out. No, I agree. I mean, there's definitely big stuff coming out. But guys, it's been fun. This new video is going to be crazy.

And I think we're going to see a lot more coming up. And I can't wait until June. We'll see what the report offers. But until then, guys, how? Have a great night. Thank you for listening to Investingearth Podcast. Go check at our website at Investearthapodcast.com. Until next time, we love you.

Peace out. Sherry. Sherry's looking at something. Yeah, I saw a UFO. I really didn't. All right, guys. I was just kidding. Bye, guys.

Bye, guys. I had an option to be someone else. I wish I could say I was finally on the truth.