Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Ohio Train Derailment Disaster | Conspiracy Podcast | East Palestine Chemical Disaster

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

There was a recent train derailment in East Palestine Ohio that seems to have the potential to be a chemical and ecological disaster that may effect the health of not only animals, but people for years to come. Some are calling this the Ohio Chernobyl. Is the government yet again covering up the dangers of this derailment? What could be the health consequences of the toxic chemical vinyl chloride that has been spilled and is now in the atmosphere for miles. All of this and more on this episode of Ohio Train Disaster Conspiracy Podcast | East Palestine Chemical Disaster

Hello and welcome to Investigator Earth podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my gorgeous and beautiful, happy Valentine's Day wife, Sherry. Oh, babe, that's so sweet. Hey, guys, we're so glad you're here. Welcome to the podcast and happy Valentine's Day. Absolutely. So, yeah, it is Valentine's Day and we are sitting here on Valentine's Day doing a podcast, 839. We have not went anywhere to eat because we do not screw with restaurants on Valentine's Day.

We're not going to be there for two or three hours And although this is a serious, very, very serious podcast I did want to take a minute to I did a video for Sherry And I know so many of you guys have followed us for four years, right? Five years almost. And so I did want to take at least the opportunity to say That, you know, there was something that, you know,

I did a video to kind of sum up kind of our relationship. I did it with the song Old Dominion, which are the group Old Dominion which is one-man band and I looked back on our relationship and like how we've went through life together and we started in music we had a lot of struggles in the very beginning

the first five or six years was one of the hardest times for our relationship period there's a lot of people that start relationships that are great for the first four or five years and then it turns bad our relationship was bad in the beginning and then turned good

yeah like we're perfect now yeah it was interesting perfect, but we're like 90% perfect. Yeah. I wouldn't say. And that song is like our song. Yeah, because we built this. We built the podcast. Our passion used to be about my music and you try to support me for my music and

now it's about supporting each other. And I think there's one thing. If we can say this to anybody's listening, you guys have to support each other. No matter what it is. It's not saying that one person or other person can't do something on their own, but you both have to be willing to be able to support each other. and whatever either of you want to do. And we do that. I mean, with the things that you want to do, we're like, hey, yeah, do it.

I'll even help you. I'll get involved in it. And I do, like, you know, craft stuff or whatever the stuff you do. But if one thing I could say that we have learned is do not give up on someone when you think is too late because it's never too late. You can stay with that person and you can figure out stuff, I think. It all depends on different situations, I guess, right? I mean, some people do need to be away from certain people, right? I mean, but for us, we always knew, right?

We always knew that, like, if you've ever heard parents or whoever talk about, like, divorced parents especially, like, they had someone that they, maybe it was your dad and mom. And then your dad and mom divorced. And then down the road, maybe you heard your mom say or your dad say or whatever, you know, although we didn't make it, I, no matter who I ever get with again is not going to be her or it's not going to be him. And so Shari and I would have been saying the same thing, I think, if we would have divorced during that time or we would have separated. But instead, we chose to not have to say that and get past it and get through it. And now we're reaping the benefits of what people could have done if they would have not have given up so soon on a relationship that maybe a lot of people do. I would say actually most people give up during what we went through. Yeah, and some of the stuff.

We went through a lot of hard times. We really did. music stuff and just so much stuff. It was tough. I mean, not cheating or anything that stuff. I mean, it was just hard, you know, financially and the life we were trying to achieve and live and base. It was crazy. But what I will say, that's all I got to say. I'm just proud of where we're at. I'm happy where we're at. And we're both doing a passion. And that's not to say that maybe I won't do music and maybe we can autotune Sherry on some songs. I already told them, I have to be in the song. But, you know, Yeah, but we'll make it work. So anyways, guys, welcome to the show. For those of you

who are new, some of you might be new to this podcast. Look, we say it like it is, we hang out. You guys, it's like if you guys are part of East Palestine or you're in Ohio and this is affecting you, just understand that, you know, we are here to try to get the word out. We have a lot of listeners around the world. We've built this for five years about. And the reason we want to do this is to help you guys and to help the people that are affected by this. So we want you to understand that when we're doing this podcast, we're not going to be a scripted podcast. We're reading off some teleprompter and it sounds perfect and audio and everything. We're doing this as if you guys are sitting here in our living room with us or our studio or whatever. We're talking to you guys.

I wish we could hear you back, but we can't. So we're going to have to try to be your voices with our platform. That's what we try to do with this podcast. We want to be voices for the people that can't talk or don't have the platform. So let's get to this. So the U.S. government lately has been basically dispensed in millions of dollars in resources to treat balloons as an existential crisis. And meanwhile, a small town in Ohio, which is East Palestine, finds itself engulfed in what actually looks like the apocalypse to a lot of people that live around this area.

And so the thing about it is, is this by design? We don't know. But all the dramas surrounding violations of U.S. airspace by Chinese spy initiatives has done well to keep what is becoming one of the worst environmental disasters in recent memory from getting any headlines hardly at all. There are a few news stations that have, you know, actually reported on it. I know Fox News, Tucker Carlson has talked extensively, even though I don't believe even Tucker Carlson really went to where this thing.

thing is really corrupt and what might actually be happening here. And we're going to talk a little more deeply on what our thoughts are on this, maybe the conspiracy behind this. I mean, there's a lot of things you can say. You know, just incompetence. You could say governmental ignorance. You know, the EPA's showing up and saying, oh, this and this and this. And we're going to talk about that. You can say all those things. But like, what if you go a step further? What if you think a little deeper about what maybe this could have actually been done because of, right? Or what is the overall arching purpose of why they're trying to do this? So the chaos began basically early last week when a train of more than a hundred cars derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, near the state's border with Pennsylvania, with roughly 5,000 residents.

The accident launched 50 of those 100 freight cars from the tracks. 20 of the freight cars of the train were carrying hazardous materials, 10 of which were derailed. While the accident had no fatalities, of those 10 cars, 5 contained pressurized vinyl chloride, which is a highly flammable carcinogenic gas. So in order to address the volatile scenario around the crash site, the Ohio Emergency Management Agency executed this plan of venting the toxic gas with a controlled burn in order to evade an uncontrolled explosion. which presented the risk of catastrophic damage, they said.

Quote, within the last two hours, a drastic temperature change has taken place in a rail car, and there is now the potential of a catastrophic tanker failure which could cause an explosion with the potential of deadly shrapnel traveling up to a mile. Governor Mike DeWine warned in his statement explaining the decision to take action to avert widespread devastation. However, the operation sent large plumes of smoke

containing vinyl chloride, phosgene, hydrogen chloride, and other gases into the air as the flames from the controlled burn raged on for days. So, fosgene in particular is a highly toxic gas, basically, that can cause vomiting, respiratory trouble

among other elements. The toxicity of fosgene gas is so potent that it was previously used as a chemical weapon during the First World War. So this is what you've got to understand. this gas is not just some random thing that, you know, oh, it's okay. Don't worry. You guys will be fine. No worries here, right? So recently they had new toxins identified. Quote, we basically nuked a town with chemicals so we could get a railroad open. Said Sil Cajiano, a hazardous material specialist. Rail company Norfolk Southern is paying just 25,000 to the town, or basically what it equals to,

$5 per resident. So the hazardous airborne chemicals prompted officials to issue mandatory evacuation in the shelter and place orders within a one mile radius of where the train derailed. Those orders forced nearly 2,000 residents of East Palestine out of their homes, and despite the public safety risk in proximity to the crash, over 500 people within the parameters of the evacuation order refused to leave their homes. However, those orders were lifted on February 8, allowing residents to return to the area adjacent to the disaster.

And then following the controlled burn, local authorities received multiple concerning reports from residents outside of the mile-long radius of the evacuation area conveying that the emergency posed by the disaster was far from over. One local farmer reported that sudden deaths of many of the animals on the premises

of his farm. Park Dairy, the farmer Taylor Holzer, also worked with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources as a registered foxkeeper. Following the disbursement of chemical agents into the air from the controlled burn, many of the foxes on Holder's farm experienced fatal effects from the air quality surrounding the area.

It's quote, out of nowhere, he, which is, he was referring to a fox, just started coughing really hard, just shut down. Holzer recalled to a local media that was WKBN 27 News. This is not how a fox should act. He is very weak and limp. His eyes are very watery and weepy, smoke and chemicals from the train. That's the only thing that can cause this, because it doesn't just happen out of of nowhere he had it. The chemicals that we have been told are safe in the air, quote,

that's definitely not safe for the animals or people. This is a quote. Dead fish are being pulled from rivers outside of East Palestine, Ohio. The trucks doing the work are labeled Enviro Science, an Ohio-based company that provides time-sensitive solutions to environmental challenges. Dead fish and Leslie Run coming out of East Palestine, Ohio. There are pictures on Twitter. You've got Amanda Breschairs found her chickens dead 10 miles from East Palestine. As soon as they started the burn, my chicken slowed down and then they died. Here's another quote. If it can do this to chickens in one night, imagine what it's going to do to us in 20 years.

And that's a very good point. We're going to talk about that. There is one person in particular, and I want to point this particular guy out, because I, I, I want him to better explain this. He's an engineer. And he, I think this was, I think he did an amazing job at breaking this down. But I want you guys to hear it. And then we're going to talk about a little bit about everything we just talked about.

So here you go. This hasn't been getting a lot of coverage. And the coverage that has been getting hasn't been very good. So let's talk about the trail derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. East Palestine is about an hour north of Pittsburgh, almost halfway to Cleveland. Northfolk Southern has a real real. line that goes right through town and this derailment happened right on the edge outside of town on the border of PA and Ohio. Of the cars that crashed, five for them contain vinyl chloride. It's a

monomer used to make PVC. From the reporting on this has gotten vinyl chloride confused with polyvinyl chloride, the polymer made out of vinyl chloride. Now the reason that this distinction is really important is vinyl chloride is very hazardous and very flammable. Polyvinyl chloride is a plastic that's used in like everything. The other thing about vinyl chloride is that it is that it boils at 8 degrees Fahrenheit, so it shipped in its liquid form. Meaning that when these trains crashed and these started leaking, they weren't just leaking liquid, but they were spewing boiling gas. So vinyl chloride is really toxic.

OSHA has the permissible limit of how much you can be exposed to it during an eight-hour shift as a 1 ppm part per million, average over 8 hours. So prior to this, the biggest spill of this chemical was in New Jersey, where one train car and about 23,000 gallons of vinyl chloride were spilled, but it didn't touch on fire. Now, this crash in Ohio has five train cars. These kinds of tanker cars can carry between 25 and 33,000 gallons. Let's call it 250,000 to 250,000 pounds of vinyl chloride. That's per train car, five train cars.

There's maybe a million pounds of this toxic chemical spilling into the ground and also boiling off into the air. But then it caught on fire. I think this is where the reporting is really bad because no one is mentioning what the byproduct of vinyl chloride burning burning vinyl chloride. One of them is hydrogen chloride. Hydrogen chloride's really unstable and latches onto water, like just water vapor in the atmosphere, and that turns into hydrochloric acid. So right now, government officials, officials from the railroad, both the governor of Pennsylvania and Ohio are calling burning off the million pounds of this stuff, success, but not mentioning that it means that we have hundreds of thousands of pounds of acid in the air, potentially. Now, ever since engineering school, I've studied a lot of industrial accidents. I just find it really fascinating in organizations like the Chemical Safety Board, NTSB, and OSHA all have like really good reports available to the public. I think as a designer, it's really good to learn about mistakes.

When looking at these kinds of industrial disasters across time, there are a couple things that are pretty universal across all of them. One, the responsible party in this coast, Norfolk Southern Railway, always plays down the reality of the situation. Politicians also just repeat the same lines, and then news outlets just repeat the same. So all we are hearing is the responsible party's word.