Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Operation Paperclip Conspiracy Podcasts | CIA Nazi Germany Collaboration

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

Operation Paperclip was a secret program conducted by the United States government in the aftermath of World War II. Its objective was to recruit and bring to the United States many of the top German scientists and engineers who had worked on Nazi weapons projects.The program began in 1945 and lasted until 1959, and during that time more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were brought to the United States. The recruits included individuals who had worked on rocket technology, jet propulsion, and other advanced weapons systems. The goal was to tap into the knowledge and expertise of these scientists and engineers, and to prevent them from being recruited by the Soviet Union.The program was controversial because many of the individuals who were recruited had been active members of the Nazi Party, and some had even been involved in war crimes. Nevertheless, the program was seen as a way to gain a technological advantage over the Soviet Union during the Cold War. All of that and more on this episode of Operation Paperclip Conspiracy Podcasts | CIA Nazi Germany Collaboration

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It's not enough. Hello, and welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hey, guys and gal. Welcome to the podcast. I hope you're having an amazing week. We're so glad you're here. And here we go. Definitely glad you guys are here. It is April 13, 23, 808 p.m. here on the East Coast of the United States. And so on tonight's episode, we're going to be discussing the Operation Paperclip. Now, we could say it's Operation Paperclip conspiracy, although that is going to be the name of this episode, Operation Paperclip Conspiracy podcast. The reality is it's not a conspiracy, right? Operation Paperclip is anything. anything but a conspiracy since documents have since been declassified.

They've been declassified for a while. Paperclip has been known, but not really talked about too much, obviously, in the mainstream media, because it looks really bad on the United States government. And not just the United States government, it looks bad on intelligence agencies in the United States, as if they can look bad or, I guess, or worse, any worse than they already look. Yeah, worse now. But, you know, we're going to be talking about this whole thing just wraps so much stuff to it. I mean, false flags, paper clips, super spies, and basically the secret Nazi origins of the CIA.

And so for those of you that have listened to this podcast for any given time, you would know that we do call out these intelligence agencies often. I mean, we call out the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, and all of the corrupt BS that they are constantly doing. And it's like now American people feel like, although yes, we should be worrying about other countries like China and Russia and other countries that want to destroy the United States, the American people constantly feel like that who we have to look over our shoulder at is not China, not Russia, not Iran. It is our own intelligence agencies.

It is our own government. And that is literally where we are at. Our government says now, basically, this is kind of their stance, is that you either are 100% on board with our propaganda and our agenda or else. Or else you're a terrorist. Yes. You're a bad person. That is what it is. And so we've got so much stuff going on in this country. We've got stuff going on around the world. This, I mean, this really ramped up around COVID, right? And so the whole COVID thing, we're not going to talk too much about it on here for this episode because it's just going to get us probably, I don't know, it's not going to go as good in the search results and you name it. But it really did start there, right? And it didn't start there, but it just ramped up there. And the government's ability to use that incident to,

gain more power and to take more power from the people is just, I think it showed people what they were so asleep to not realize what has been going on in the United States. I mean, the CIA and the FBI and these agencies, they're not new to controversy. They're not new to corruption. I mean, we've got to look back to the JFK incident or assassination. We have to look back to Martin Luther King assassination, which a court held that the government was the one that basically killed Martin Luther King, most people don't even realize that. And actually, I was talking to a friend of ours the other night.

And, you know, I told him, it was like, go listen to our Martin Luther King episode because, you know, I don't think that a lot of people realize that the government was found responsible for his assassination. Right. In an actual court of law. Yeah. It's crazy. And guess who would have been responsible for that? Guess who would have been coordinating and setting that all up? Well, more than likely to see I.

And so as we. we talked tonight about Operation Paperclip, and as we discuss and go through what Operation Paperclip was, there is no secret that Operation Paperclip existed, right? So, you know, this is going to be a conspiracy podcast, although Paperclip is not a conspiracy theory. It was a conspiracy because it was a group of people that got together to do something very bad, which is bring over Nazi scientists and engineers and pretty much the best of the best that Nazi Germany had to exterminate as much of the population of Jewish people as they could. And we kind of built our intelligence agency around these people.

And so when you start looking at all of the craziness and everything that the CIA and other intelligence agencies have been involved in the United States, and then you hear about Operation Paperclip, it's going to make a lot more sense because, you know, if you start a foundation on bad, it's probably not going to use, you're not going to build it up on good. It's just probably going to get worse. You're going to get more corrupted, more, you know, whatever. And unfortunately, this is a time in our lives in the United States that we have to, and I think many people have acknowledged how corrupt and how crazy things are.

Now, the CIA and stuff has been involved in corruption for a while, but I just, you know, I don't know, people, I think, realize it more. But it's so sad that we have to go and uncover or dig to find out the truth about our CIA. or FBI or, you know, any kind of intelligence agencies in America. Going to school, you would never think about or even hear about Operation Paperclip. Well, of course not. You would have never heard about Martha and Luther King actually being killed by the CIA. You would never hear about that, quote unquote.

Yeah, you would never hear about these kind of things in school. You never hear about the corruption in school. You never hear about the real things that you have to dig. uncover. And it's just so crazy to me to even know there was an operation paperclip. I've never heard of this thing. Ever. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty nuts. And so we're going to dive deep in that. And by the way, guys, before we get in this, I'm going to say again, this is like our, this is our ad, but this is very short, but we want you to understand, you know, the way the government and this administration and the DOJ and the FBI and the CIA and how much their involvement has

been in social media and been in tech companies. I mean, the amount of ex-FBI and CIA agents that work for these tech companies, which we have seen uncovered through Twitter files, we have seen investigative journalists that have, you know, researched how many ex-FBI or CIA agents worked for Facebook, which is also Instagram. I mean, we can only imagine how many work for YouTube and Google, you know, coordinating this mass propaganda effort. But they also, you know, one of the things that real they are really going to start using as AI we've been hearing a lot about AI AI they're going to use to silence the opposition they're going to use this they already do this they do it on YouTube they do it on on Facebook they do it everywhere they don't have to have people sit there and

be like all right what are they saying let me listen to it and then I'll see if we ban them or not no AI already does it right and AI is already manipulated to one thought yeah one you know oh absolutely yeah because we even yeah and we even look just we're interested to look up this topic on AI and AI and it was total propaganda yeah it is I mean it'll acknowledge Operation Paperclip but it skews it towards the government's not at fault don't worry about it nothing to worry about here and this is all probably just a conspiracy theory right but it's not it this this what we're going to talk about tonight it's not a conspiracy theory it is a conspiracy but it is true and even I guess maybe the conspiracy theory that some people might want to talk about

what we're going to talk about tonight is like how far did these roots of Nazi Germany get into the United States and how long did they last and are they still here? And, you know, who are we really being influenced by and who, you know, who is our intelligence agencies really? And also, we get to think back to Nazi Germany and Hitler's regime and, you know, Germany and all of them, they had, for whatever reason, they had a very advanced technology, aerospace program that, like, unlike anyone in the world at the time had, period. I mean, they even had created a flying saucer type thing. And so how did they get this technology?

How did they even figure this out? Were they contacted by aliens potentially or had some kind of experience with... I mean, there's been conspiracy theories around that for a long time with Nazi Germany. And then we, of course, no, Hitler and, you know, he was on meth and from what they say, you know, he was tweaking. There were so many videos showing Hitler, you know, it was... sitting at parades and he's just rocking back and forth just like, you know, tweaking. You know, something you would see, some tweaker on cops or if you are a cop, you know, you deal with these people often.

And this is a leader of the world. Oh, wow. Yeah, he was a leader of Nazi Germany. So, but the reason I say all this is because AI and the government and the intelligence agencies are moving to silence every single voice that is in opposition on the platforms that they have access to, right? But we are on substack, and we got to tell you guys this again and again and again.

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So Operation Paperclip has fueled basically neo-Nazi conspiracy theories regarding the CIA espionage and government smokescreens for decades. So Operation Paperclip is the historical inspiration behind hunters, which is a television series on Amazon Prime. And it depicts a rag-tag band of Nazi hunters operating in New York in 1977, who discover that hundreds of Nazi war. criminals are conspiring to establish a Fourth Reich in the United States. Significantly, the real-world events underpinning Operation Paperclip have fueled conspiracy theories regarding CIA corruption, espionage, and government smokescreens for decades and continue to influence neo-Nazi recruitment to this day.

So throughout the Second World War, Nazi Germany maintained a particular technological superiority over its adversaries in the creation of chemical weapons, and reaction technology, medicine and aerodynamics and rocketry, which is the V1 and V2 rockets. As the Allied forces advanced into Germany during the final stages of World War II, the race was on between the United States and the Soviet Union to seize as many German scientists as possible in anticipation of the Cold War. So through the efforts of a newly formed and highly secretive government organization, which was called the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency, or J-I-O-A, Operation Overcast, later renamed Operation Paperclip, was launched. Its objective was to recruit and smuggle into the United States, 1600 German engineers and scientists, many of whom had worked for the Third Reich and had been leaders. of the Nazi regime. So we're talking about the United States government at this point.

They know that supposedly they're in this battle or this race with Soviet Union to recruit as many of these basically horrific, horrific scientists and engineers and rocket scientist and biochemical scientists. These guys were heavily responsible for so many. of the executions of the Jewish people. And, but the United States, what do they do? Oh, well, we got to get as many of them as we possibly can. Because Russia's getting them too, and we got to beat Russia.

So we got to just go. It's almost a going against your morals to beat somebody out. Mm-hmm. You know? Well, yeah, I mean, at the very first of this, just talking about what we've talked about so far, morals is just effed in this. I mean, you know, you can't even, you can't even compare this on them. You have these, what was it, 14 to 1,600 of these scientists or slash engineers and scientists

that were heavily responsible with how good of a job that Nazi Germany and Hitler did with killing and executing Jewish people, right? I mean, this was, these guys were the ones that figured out the ways to kill them the fastest. Like how can we kill these people Fast as possible? So when they say chemical weapons Or reactionatory weapons, even radiation type-based weapons,

aerodynamics they were very good with, which is a whole other thing about Germany. And that's, to me, that kind of goes to some other level. I mean, Nazi Germany back in this day and the Hitler regime was extremely technologically advanced, far beyond what anyone would ever

think a small country like Germany could ever possibly do. I mean, even today, Germany is not even close to that technologically advanced as Germany was during Hitler and the Third Reichs time. I mean, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. Everyone's always questioned, how did they get this technology? Especially consider no one around the world, their adversaries, including the United States and China, and these giant countries, including the Soviet Union, they weren't even close to the advancement in technology as Germany was. So there's always been the conspiracy theories around how did, how did Hitler do this? Like he was obviously a very evil person. You know, he wanted, he wanted the lives of every Jewish person possible. You know, he was mentally deranged or

there was something wrong with him. But it was almost like some people say it was almost as if, you know, Hitler got some kind of crazy message, like a psychopathic, schizophrenic type dimensional thing that he had to march on these orders. And a lot of it, the people in his cabinet and all of this. And then during this time, they were developing all of these insane, crazy, technologically advanced, aerodynamically advanced spaceships in some cases. Flying saucers, spaceships, things that you would not even think about, creating. at this time. No. You know, in this past time.

People didn't even, barely were building airplanes. And they're building all this, like, really advanced stuff. And not only that, but they had advanced technology to even inventory Jewish people coming into their prison camps. IBM. IBM was a large part of that. Which, you know, keeping in mind, IBM is still a huge company. And so when we look at this 1,600 people, they brought over from operations. Paperclip, and these are things that Operation Paperclip won't disclose, but we've got to think

about the fact that how heavily involved IBM is still in the United States and the economy of the United States and all of this. And so, you know, was IBM and the people behind IBM then brought over to the United States during Paperclip? And that's why IBM continued to take off. They were part of the system, part of this elitism, part of this like, hey, we're going to. There's a lot of evil people. And it makes complete sense now to even make this operational paperclip make sense because, yes, we know for a fact, or at least I know for a fact, that IBM were the ones that took inventory of the Jews that went into the prison camps, into the gas chambers. And we still have IBM in America, which means somehow that technology had to come to America via some kind of

Nazi Germany person because they had to bring it over here in order for it to work here, right? Yeah. So that makes complete sense that if we're using IBM technology, then don't think we're not using their central intelligence either. Yeah. Well, and keeping in mind, IBM is based in Armac, New York, right? So that is their home base, is New York. Okay, but they didn't start there.

I mean, at least from what I, from what I gather, they were heavily involved at the very least in Nazi Germany and Hitler. Hitler is the one that got them to figure out a system some way, because Hitler knew that he's like, look, you know, we want to eliminate basically all Jewish people. But we got to figure out how to find and figure out who all these Jewish people are. So they enlisted the help of IBM. This is how IBM originated. This is how they were created. And so IBM came up with like some type of similar. It was like a punch card.

Yeah. Like a punch card system or a, and actually I think it was even a little less advanced than a punch card system. It was almost like a, I've heard it described before, but it's almost like a metal thing that was you had to, you had to, all you had to do is just put your hand on it and push it through. And it shows that, hey, you're Jew and you're this. Or half Jew or whatever. And they took this. And they also had to, through those punch card systems, the Jews actually had to wear clothes. that showed the star of David, showing that they were Jewish. And some of them had a half

Jew star, the half star of David, showing that they were half Jewish. But I think, you know, he wanted to eliminate anything that what, you know, he was a white supremacist. Yeah, neo-Nazi, for sure. We, we actually, there's been a lot of stuff about, and I don't want to get into the Russia Ukraine thing, but let's just talk about it for two seconds. Keeping in mind that since the Russia-Ukraine war has started, one of the big blowbacks about why the United States has is and has supported

Ukraine because of the fact that many people say that there are very like many neo-Nazis that are a part of the Ukrainian army or these groups. The Azov Battalion, for example, which is one of their biggest battalions over there in

Ukraine. I've seen pictures. I've seen videos of them with Nazi-type tattoos. Well, even Putin was calling them neo-Nazis at the very beginning of this war, saying these people are all neo-Nazis. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, and it's not just Putin. I mean, there's so many people. You can't just believe anything Putin says.

But regardless, there's been reporters. There's been people on the ground. There's been even Ukrainians that have been interviewed to say, look, a lot of these are neo-Nazis. They are 100% white supremacists slash whatever. So I don't know. All I'm saying is it is interesting how much involved we. are with the Ukraine thing, and then also thinking back about all of the people that we recruited from Nazi Germany to the United States, which I think still influences the United States

policies and intelligence agencies to this day. It's just very interesting, but nonetheless. So during that time, notably, President Truman had publicly forbidden the recruitment of anyone who was a member of the Nazi party or was more than a nominal participant in its activities, thus rendering many of the scientists ineligible, they say, right? But to circumvent this restriction, the files of such recruits were altered by the government. And the only evidence of their Nazi past was in the form of the paperclip that had attached their original files to those that were being whitewashed. I always wondered where the Operation Paperclip came from. That's where it come from.

That's because you could see when they have all these forms together and they were paper clipped. They took the paperclip off, but you can still see the indention. And that's where the word comes from. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. And the thing about the paperclip deal is, too. And so this is what our government did.

The United States government basically whitewashed their entire history, whether it be whatever their service was in a Nazi Germany, Third Reich, all of this stuff. The United States government can do this at a whim, right? And it kind of makes me somewhat think about Bob Lazar. And I know this is a whole UFO thing. But Bob Lazar, Area S4, did go to college, astrophysicist, or whatever he went to college for. And many people say the government whitewashed his record because he did speak after he went to Area S4 and said, look, I saw them working on spacecrafts. Which, who knows, by the way, if, you know, the whole Nazi thing, you know, Germany did. work on spacecrafts. They had a

spacecraft prototype over there. Don't know where they got it. Don't know how they got it. But regards to the fact, don't you think United States would have probably got the stuff from that as well? Yeah, especially if they're bringing these guys. Yeah, exactly. Into our intelligence agencies. Exactly. Yeah. Or that's the start of our intelligence agency.

Yeah. So at this time, too, the space race between the United States and the Soviet Union was a remarkable time in history. and when the world's two superpowers competed bitterly in a series of technological initiatives to demonstrate their superiority in spaceflight, many of the scientists recruited

through Operation Paperclip were instrumental in the United States nuclear and space programs, of whom probably the most infamous was ties to the Nazi war machine was Warner von Braun. So he was the aeronautics engineer behind one of Germany's potentially most effective weapons, which is the V-2 rocket.

So Von Braun became, an integral part of the United States weapon and space programs, eventually become the director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and chief architect behind the Saturn 5 launch vehicle, which was responsible for supposedly sending U.S. astronauts to the moon, even though if you want to go to our moon landing episode, please do. One and two is part one and two, go listen. I don't believe it.

And they're really good episodes, like one of our best. They're great. But yeah, if you want to hear our thoughts on the moon landing and all that, please go listen to our moonlighting episodes, but it did remind me that. So Von Braun was a huge, huge get for the United States in this program. He was great at developing rockets and weapons to take out a lot of people. But also contributing to USA Space Dominus was German physiologist, Hubertus Strughold. He was held as the father of modern space medicine for design and NASA.

his onboard life support system. He gained much of his knowledge by conducting experiments on prisoners in concentration camps. Yeah, and so where they were placed in low pressure chambers and frozen, and many of these people often died in this process. So he was an evil scientist that were experimented on Jewish people. On human Jewish people. Yeah, it's like fucking faulty with, well, kind of the world today. But yeah. Well, yeah, the world and beagles.

Beagles. Yeah, I mean, beagles. I mean, this guy, Hubertus Strughold, was a faulty of beagles, but for Jewish people. And these are the people that the United States was bringing over and saying, oh, we love, yeah, let's get these people over. This is, I mean, if anything, this should tell you, without a doubt, like how effed up the people in charge of these systems, these organizations, these intelligence agencies, how absolutely. corrupt and evil, they probably are. I mean, let's just be honest. It is.

And it comes back to what I said earlier that no matter what our morals are second above being the best in the world. And no matter what, we're going to bring, it doesn't matter if you're evil, if you've done experiments on humans, if you just don't even think life is more important than that, it doesn't matter. As long as you're advancing us to be above everyone else. That's all we care about. And I think that's the beginning of the problem is if you don't have morals and you're willing to go outside your moral values and bring in these crooked, like, evil people, there's something wrong with this whole establishment in the beginning.

Yeah. So even, so perhaps even over, you know, Hubertus Strughold, which is who we just talked about, the one that was the guy that was doing these experiments on prisoners and concentration camps, more well known than him, though, was author. Arthur Rudolph, and he was NASA's project director of the Saturn V Moon Rocket, who was chief of operations at the Middle Ball Dora concentration camp, where 20,000 slave laborers died. So this guy, Arthur Rudolph, was over NASA's, he was project director of Saturn V Moon Rocket. And this guy was directly over the concentration camp, Middle Ball Dora. director.

Yeah, which was, you know, responsible for 20,000 slave laborers that died. 20,000 Jews dead because of this guy, and we bring him over to be a project director. A director of our space programs. Yeah. So significantly, the Rudolph was much honored as the lynchpin of the Apollo 11 mission. 21 years later, he was arrested for his war crimes and remains, to this day, the only Nazi to be stripped of his American. citizenship and deported, the only one. So, you know, it leads you to kind of believe, like, I guess the United States probably

wanted to, especially as people started to find out about Operation Paperclip and all this, they want to just put someone on the board, you know, like pin somebody up, crucify someone to say, oh, well, we found one that's really bad, but all of them were bad. Right. It's like Sam Bickman-Fried on a lower level. Yeah. They have to pin somebody to get the heat off of them and say, oh, no, no, no. We weren't trying to bring these people over here. They came without us knowing what they were actually doing. Yeah, you're right.

Now, so further controversy arose in the mid-1970s when over 20,000 CIA documents became public, detailing covert attempts to develop psychological, biological, chemical, and even radiological procedures to turn both foreign and domestic spies into sleeper agents. During the early stages of the Cold War, the CIA were convinced that communist regimes had discovered drugs and techniques that enabled them to control human minds for intelligence purposes. So in response, M.K. Ultra was established, which is a highly classified project in which the CIA conducted clandestine experiments sometimes on unwitting subjects, or I guess unwilling subjects, to assess the potential of LSD and other drugs in mind control techniques that could subsequently be used. against enemies. So think about how much of how this, just think about how much of the United States

base and foundation of intelligence agencies came from this and came from these evil, horrific fucking people that was part of the Nazi Germany's, um, like these were the, these were the main guys that ensured that Hitler and his regime could eliminate and exterminate as many Jews as possible. And these guys, the ones that were the smartest people, no, but the, the smartest people that Hitler relied on is who we got. Right. And not only that we got, but Russia's got a bunch of them too. Sounds like. I don't know how many, I don't know how many they had. It was a race about it was a race. That's what the United States says, though, right? We don't know 100% whether that's even true. They say that, but it's probably bullshit to me, because to me it just,

sounds like the United States knew that like, hey, we're just going to say there was a race because we were afraid they were going to get them, so we got them. So just, you know, just to make it look better. But there can't be much more than 1,600 of these advanced scientists and engineers. I mean, the United States probably got all of them. Russia probably wasn't even going for these fucking evil people. I don't know. I'm not positive of that, but that's, of course, what the United States wants to say. Oh, well, Russia was going for them. So we had to get them. No. I mean, come on. It just sounds like a bullshit excuse. Well, it just makes it sound a little. better, but not much better.

So, you know, MK Ultra, we've talked about MK.K. Ultra quite a bit on this podcast. It was not a single project, but a network of interconnected experiments. And the most notable of which were the projects Bluebird and Artichoke that focused on inducing amnesia to create

hypnotic couriers and a Maniturian candidate super spies. In addition, Bluebird focused on behavior modification and hypnosis to prevent agency employees from divulging intelligence to adversaries, an artichoke on creating post-hypnotic triggers by which sleeper agents could be activated

from a state of ignorance about their assignments. As a matter of fact, M.K. Ultra was a continuation of work that had begun in Nazi concentration camps. Oh, so they were giving people LSD over there? Yeah, this MK.K. Ultra started in Nazi concentration camps. Wow. And this is how we figured this out. This is how we used it.

Yeah, I know towards the end, they're using gas chambers and just exterminating mass amount of people. And a lot of those guys that were responsible for these chemicals and these gases that they introduced, we hired. Yeah. So, yeah, as a matter of fact, you know, the MK Ultra thing was, I mean, it's kind of crazy to think about, you know, we've talked about MK. Ultra. We never really went to the even origins of M.K. Ultra, but the origins of M.K. Ultra are Nazi Germany. It is, they were used

in the concentration camps. And so, which explains basically why the CIA specifically used Operation Paperclip to recruit the scientist for the project. The main contributors were Walter Schreiber, former Surgeon

General of the Third Reich, and Kurt Blom, leader of the Nazi program to weaponize bubonic plague. You know, bubonic plague was one of the most, it is one of the most deadly things out there. The problem with the bubonic plague was, um, it's not a great pandemic, right? It's not a great pandemic virus because, you know, it kills the host so fast. It doesn't spread. Yeah, it won't spread enough. Yeah. But the fact that they were weaponizing the bubonic plague. Yeah, I mean, if you gave it, yeah, if you gave it to people in, you know, in a small confined areas, concentration camps. Yeah,

it's going to spread. And it's horrific death. You know, and it's like... Oh, that's a one like you bleed out, I think, right? I don't know how you die from Bubon. I mean, it's pretty awful. I'm thinking you bleed out and it's awful, but I don't know. I'm not sure. But yeah, there's an unclassified document, the memorandum for Secretary of Defense subject,

the justification for U.S. military intervention in Cuba, right? So this was a document that came out. False flags, right? So government-led covert operations designed to deceive the general population that the actions have actually been carried out. by other entities, groups, or nations, have long been the forefront of conspiracy theories concerning government

smokescreens. Following the Cuban revolution in 1959, Fulgencio-Batista's regime was overthrown, paving the way for Fidel Castro to establish a new communist Cuban government with close ties to the Soviet Union. To combat what was seen as a threat to the United States,

all American intelligence services combined in 1962 to launch Operation Mongoose. to dispose Castro. The Joint Chiefs of Staff maintained the most effective way to remove Castro from power would be through military force,

but it was recognized that an unwarranted invasion of Cuba would not be supported by the American people and thus hold a disastrous political consequence. So to get the American people on the side, Operation Northwoods, which we have talked about.

Now, Operation Northwoods, we have an episode on that, so if you guys want to go check that out, you can listen to that as well. Operation Northwood was proposed basically a series of false flags including fabricated terrorist attacks on the United States cities,

plane hijackings, and the sinking of boats, all being made to appear as though carried out by Cuban operatives. Right, and basically our government was lying to us saying Cuba was doing this when we were doing this to our own people. Yeah, well, we wanted to do

this to our own people. We never really carried out with it. At least as far as, yeah, at least as far as we know, we never really carried it out. but and the problem with that and why that happened why we never carried out although Operation Northwoods was immediately rejected by President Kennedy the fact the United States government had once considered staging fake terrorist attacks to justify going to war with another country is one that fuels conspiracy theories to this day now let's just think about this for a second okay let's think about and we you know on our Operation Northwoods episode we specifically talked about the fact the U.S. government went to Kennedy then which I believe I think there were a myriad of things that Kennedy got assassinated for. I think there were, I think Operation Northwoods was definitely one. During this time of Operation Northwoods, when the Joint Chiefs of Staff came to President

Kennedy in the Oval Office, and they set in the office with President Kennedy, and this was, I don't know how many of them, there were 7, 8, 9, whatever it was, but there were probably seven or eight, nine of them in the office with them. And I remember reading the detailed median and how that took place. But the Joint Chiefs of Staff come in and they say, look, this is what we're planning on doing because we got to invade Cuba, right? This was supposedly the reason why we wanted to take over Cuba was because the Soviet Union was so close to Cuba and the fact that Fidel Castro was, you know, on board with Russia stuff or Soviet Union. And so President Kennedy was like shocked in in in in in all of the fact that our government would even consider.

And by the way, this was not they weren't coming to Kennedy and saying this these are just going to be fake terrorist tax. No, they said even if we have to kill our own citizens. Right. Which they were planning on doing. Operation Northwoods, yes. Yes. Then we will do it and blame it on Cuba. Now think about this for a second.

This is not a 9-11 podcast, but think about it. this. We have the Twin Towers fall. We have the Pentagon. We have another building that just randomly collapsed. Oklahoma, but I'm saying specifically 9-11. Yeah. Oklahoma, yes, because domestic terrorism stuff, but I'm talking specifically about 9-11. 9-11, we basically invaded all the Middle East after 9-11. That was kind of the part of why we even invaded Iraq, even though we said it was for weapons of mass destruction, which we later found out was bullshit and they didn't actually have them. But we did invade Iraq. We killed tons of Muslims

over in Afghanistan, especially a lot of innocent people. You know, during Obama's time, you have to remember, and, you know, Bush was the one that started the war with Afghanistan and Iraq. But then during Obama's term, Obama was known as one of the, one of the presidents that that had killed the most amount of people with drones. And I'm not talking about terrorists. I'm talking about citizens. I'm talking about anyone that was in the path of any of this shit. The amount of innocent lives that the United States and President Obama and other presidents,

including Bush, killed because of 9-11, is flabbergasting. And if you think about, if people want to sit out there and say, oh, there's no way that the United States would ever set up anything like 9-11, or this would be an inside job, just look at Operation Northwoods. Just look at Operation Paperclip to the fact that we brought over 1,600 extremely evil, piece of shit scientists and people that were directly, directly responsible for killing all of these Jews. You know, this was, it's the most sick people that this population, this humanity has, at least this humanity, we may have had other civilizations in our past, but this humanity is fucked. Like there were so many bad people in this humanity and so and I often think about like with all this talk about past civilizations the civilizations The civilizations the civilizations

Like they don't want you yeah that they don't want you to know about or or they don't they just don't know But you know there's more and more evidence coming out that yes there were advanced civilizations Far beyond ours right that are ancient that we don't even know about Yes and that they probably had technology that are way Far superior than the technology we have now. Yeah. And, you know, did they blow themselves up or did they, was it a comment? Was it, you know, we don't know if that stuff happened. But all I do know is that say that there's three civilizations on this planet, right? Say that we have been through three and we're on our third. Like,

this is the worst one yet. I have to assume. Like, I mean, maybe not. Maybe the other civilizations were far worse than this. But it's just, it's crazy to hear the people that are over our country and countries. It's not just us, it's other people, but there are so many fucking evil people. Oh, there is. And just to hear this. But after reading a lot of books, Robert was one. What was his name, Shock or whatever? Robert Shock, yes. Which we're going to have them on eventually. I'm reading the ancient civilization's books that he's read, like wrote, or he was

the author of, sorry. But reading all those books, I'm just amazed at, it's almost like we recycle the earth. are the earth recycles itself and goes through these these things of destruction of the earth and then rebuilding. Yeah. You know, and I think he attributes a lot of it to solar flares or things that have to do with the sun. Yeah. But, I mean, there is a lot of stuff going on. And I truly believe there are ancient civilizations that we don't even know about.

Yeah. You're right. I don't know. And the thing about Operation Northwoods is, and we have to understand, is that Operation Northwoods is that Operation Northwoods, is that Operation Northweds. Northwoods bears all of the hallmarks of Operation or sorry, I'm getting this backwards. 9-11 bears all of the hallmarks of Operation Northwood. Right.

I mean, it is everything that the government wanted to do with the Cuba thing. Everything. The only difference is JFK said no. Yeah. And Bush said yes. Or maybe Bush just didn't know about it. I mean, you know, the reality is when you say deep state,

and I think the more. and more we realize that our president of the United States basically has no control over this government whatsoever. And the ones that we've talked about us before that do come into power that want control. They want more power. They say, look, I want to, I want to be deciding shit. Like, I'm the president. And then, and they get in there, they just don't realize. But the ones that are really outspoken are usually the ones that are putting their place very fast. You think about Trump. You think about JFK. You think about, you know, others. I mean, there's been a lot of people kind of on that realm.

But no conspiracy theory resonates more powerfully with the contemporary political climate than that of Project Monarch, which was named after the inaugural migration behavior of the monarch butterfly. And this was when millions fly south from the United States to a small area of pine groves in central Mexico. The time it takes from the journey

is longer than the butterfly's lifespan, thus offspring born during the migration, know to continue the quest demonstrating the power of instinct. Scientists have questioned whether there is a genetic memory at work, hand-wired in individuals, guiding them towards their destination.

The monarch butterfly has consequently become the symbol of a type of psychological programming that is said to permeate modern society and control millions of people across the world. Conspiracy theorist Kathy O'Brien maintains the monarch mind control is a sub-project of M.K. Ultra, which combines occult ritual,

psychology, and neuroscience to create alter egos within desired subjects. So under Project Monarch, victims usually young children are subjected to intense trauma to the point that their minds disassociate from the experience

causing a form of multiple personality disorder known as disassociative identity disorder. Monarch handlers are subsequently able to mold these disassociated minds into new and controllable personalities. monarch conspiracies are becoming increasingly intertwined with radical right propaganda or left particularly surrounding pizza gate scandal and others a major impact of overlapping conspiracy theories particularly in relation to the radical left or right is the powerful psychological disestablishing effect that they can have on individuals who become increasingly separated from reality so um this is kind of how um and so the the the monarcher theory and other theories as far as this associating identity and being able to do this.

Now, then you have to start thinking about today. Now, the reason why this was important is because MK. Ultra and the mind control techniques really started during, or sorry, after we brought over 1,600 Nazi scientists and engineers and psychological behavior experts, which is some of the people that they employed or had in the Third Reich of the Nazi, you know, the Nazi regime, these people were very, very good at figuring out mindsets and figuring out, um, like pretty much like mass formation psychosis type stuff. And this was what they were great at. Project Monarch and other things like this, MK Ultra. It all kind of ties back in one giant little circle. But the one thing we do know is that

Project Monarch alongside M.K. Ultra was something that was being studied or rationalized in concentration camps in Nazi Germany by many of these scientists, these 1600 scientists we brought to the United States. So if you think about even to this day, the mass formation psychosis, which so many people are talking about, especially during the pandemic, we think about the mass amount of people that are you know there are some people that we and we've said this before there are some people that believe

they are not male or female or fema or vice versa but then there's also this mass psychosis attempt to make everyone as many people as they can believe that it's cool and it's the it's the cool thing to do to be trans or to be this and now they're getting now they're trying to roll up trans also to be

terrorists they're I mean the and it's okay to do that right look at Nashville yeah Sorry. But this is something that originated with these 1600 Nazi scientists and engineers that we brought over after Hitler and his regime was destroyed. But this is what we built our base around. Our foundation. That's so crazy.

I would never think in a million years that our CIA was built upon Nazi Germany. Yeah. I would never guess that. You don't see that in schools. You don't see that in history books. You don't see that anywhere. The only way you see that is if you dig for the information and you got to dig really hard to find it. Absolutely.

And that's what's so sad about history. If you want to know the truth, the real history, you got to dig for it. It's not going to be in a textbook. No. It's not going to tell you our CIA has been corrupt all this time. It's not going to tell you about Operation Northwoods. It's not going to tell you about MK Ultra. It's not going to tell you about any of that stuff.

This is stuff you have to learn on your own outside of schools, outside of textbooks. And so many people in our modern days civilization have no idea about any of these things. That's what's crazy to me. There are so many people that are not educated with the truth or with the conspiracies, as they say it. the conspiracies that are pretty much true. You know, we can pretty much say they are true. No one knows about that unless you dig for it. Yeah, and so essentially kind of what the United States did, though,

with all those 1, except for 1, right, supposedly, is the U.S. government basically traded scientific knowledge for immunity, right? So they said that, you know, hey, we'll promise you immunity from prosecution to German scientists in exchange for the scientific knowledge, right? And this suggests that the government was more interesting gaining access to German technology than in holding war criminals accountable for their actions. And so that was a huge thing. The U.S. government concealed the true purpose of the operation. They deliberately misled the public about the true purpose of Operation Paperclip, and that is a huge thing.

They continually, and they always mislead the public. And so the government knew that the program would be controversial and potentially damaging to the U.S. reputation. And so they downplayed its significance and kept it a secret from the American people. But they do this all the time. They do this with everything. They do this with, I mean, what is COVID going to be called? Operation pandemic. Because one day, maybe in our lifetime, if we get anyone worth of shit that's like actually,

if we get any establishment, right, that is actually out for the people, we will really find out how effed up we have been. And I honestly think the only way this country or this world is ever going to move forward, but especially this country, you have to have pro-country people and people that actually give a shit about their people. But I just don't think that's going to happen. That's the scariest part. You know, one of the things was, is that, you know, while it is true that some of the scientists recruited, or actually pretty much most of them through Operation Paperclip, um, there was some deals with the Soviet Union at this time. This was when,

You know, the Soviet Union situation with the United States during this World War II, right after World War II, we've been at it with the Soviet Union and Russia for so long. And, you know, the United States wants to say, oh, well, we did, eventually, they had to say, well, we did recruit 1600 of them. And it's like the JFK files, for example, the more, the longer and longer as time goes, the more people realize that, oh, shit, the CIA actually did kill JFK. Right. And that was so crazy. How, I mean, because they want, they want as many people involved in that to be dead before they can ever even think to acknowledge. I mean, this is the system. They do. Right. But even to think about that that happened, even back in the 60s or whatever, it's still hard for my mind to imagine that people that are trying to, that are supposed to keep me safe. my country are doing stuff like that, you would never think in a million years that they would ever be like that.

You think about the CIA, FBI, any kind of DOJ, anything that is here to protect us are not people that would be ones to try to put the wool of our heads or lie to us or fake things. But they are the very ones that do that. And that's so appalling to me and alarming to me because

I grew up my whole life thinking, oh my gosh, these guys are like the best of the best. Yeah, you know, they're like at the top of the police law enforcement, yeah. Law enforcement statute. They're like the most moral people there probably are. That's the way I grew up thinking. And a lot of the guys

that work for these departments, I guess, I mean, you know, there's a lot of agents that are good, but doesn't matter because they, I mean, much like Nazi Germany, they are, you know, I was just following orders. was all, everybody's excuse for killing all the Jews. I mean, and, you know, I think there's something to be said about that because, you know,

was all of these German soldiers, did they hate not, did they hate Jewish people? I'm sure they didn't. But they were following orders. And they were scared to go against orders. And so a lot of, and I'm not making excuses for them. No one should have done that period. No, absolutely not. But we have talked about this previously with what if our government said,

hey, our citizens that don't agree with us, will you just go kill them? They asked this to our military. I mean, this was the same stuff that, you know, as many of those Nazi soldiers that were over there and they said, oh, well, we're just following orders. Well, we've talked about it on other podcasts

where it's like, what if this government, this administration, this regime, this tyrannical communist regime that is coming into power in the United States, what if they told our military, hey, you know what? It's your orders to go and kill our opposition. These people do not agree with us.

They do not agree with what we believe and what we think. So therefore, it is your job to go and kill our opposition. This is very possible. Well, that's what really happens in the military. Well, yeah, I mean, they're told to go kill someone or go kill a group of people. It happened with Afghanistan. It happened with Iraq. It happened with so many places.

Libya, there's wars that we don't even know we're in. The general population don't know we're in. But yeah, they still go and do it. I mean, like, I understand you've got to be patriotic and you got to support your military. And yes, our military is why we are free. You cannot have a free country or a country at all without a military to protect yourself from adversaries.

But the problem is what happens when you bring in Nazi scientists and engineers and all these people and you build intelligence agencies on the back of these evil people? And so this this whole mindset, this whole just evil, I guess thought process really started our intelligence agencies from the beginning. And so if we look at and we talked about earlier, like maybe that's why our intelligence agencies are so screwed up. And it's obviously no secret that the United States lied to the American people about Operation Paperclip, just like they did in Northwoods. if I have to guess, 9-11 was probably very similar concept to Operation Northwoods, except for maybe the fact that whether Bush knew about 9-11 or not, we don't know.

But there's one thing we can say is like nowadays, if you're a president, it doesn't matter. You don't have to know shit. You probably don't know half of what's going on. There are deep, dark organizations and groups within our military. And then you got to think about, like, for example, when contractors go out to, you go out to, wars like Afghanistan, Iraq, and all these places. They don't, the reason why the United States is, or the United States government uses contractors or contractor companies is because they can go over to Iraq and Afghanistan and they don't have rules of war. They don't have the same laws that

apply to our military. Yeah, Geneva Convention, any of that. They can literally just go out and kill mass amounts of people if they want to. And they're protected by our government because they contracted through the Department of Defense, I know very well how that contracting stuff works. And it's just, it's, it's very disturbing. But I think the most disturbing part of this whole podcast, to wrap this up, is that our CIA, at the very least, by the way, and the group that they created, the group that was created on behalf of these Nazi scientists was, what eventually turned into the CIA. So I want to make that specifically clear.

The new group they formed turned into the CIA. And to this day, many people believe that the Nazi regime, the Nazi mindset is still in some, somewhere, somewhere through this, you know, political system has been in power for many years in the United States. you know but if you look at like what the you know what the you know what i say the regime but it is what the regime in the united states does and talks about now you know pro-lgbtu pro trans pro everything that is like the opposite of what nazi germany would have been but i just think that's their

front i think they're that's interesting they are controlling these groups of people by getting these people to vote for them but it's kind of very similar to somewhat how you know many communist or slash countries that are going to a tyrannical or authoritarian nation state, what they will first do is get the people on board

with kind of what they're trying to do, even maybe a half of the population or a quarter. And then they kind of roll out everything and then they just encompass everyone in that. But they have to have the support to begin with to get all these things through their tyrannical plans to where at least half

of the population sees it as, well, they're helping me and they're helping my group and they're helping this. So I'm going to just ignore this. I'm going to fight for this. I'm going to fight for this tyranny. I'm going to fight for this authoritarianism. I'm going to fight for this communism. I mean, just think about it. Like the Democrat Party, you know, they used to, you know, for example, Antifa, anti-fascist. You know, anti-fascist is literally what is in office right now. But yet they are for them. It's so funny because they're, they think they're against their wrong. party, but they're with the wrong party.

Yes, that's what's crazy. And it's a mind control technique. And this is what Nazi Germany did. This is what these psychologists, these psychiatrists, that's what these people, because we brought a lot of them over as a part of Operation Paperclip. I mean, we're talking about mental scientists, these mental terrorists, essentially. And these people that were a part of Nazi Germany, Hitler's regime, knew how to influence and instigate people's minds into believing that something was good to

kind of get them a part of this system. Right. But yet they were just being led to slaughter. And this is all it was. And it's very similar to what is I believe is sort of kind of going on now. It's like the United States, for example, has a portion of the population believing that this portion of population is bad. And even if the government came and exterminated this.

this portion of the population. I'm talking about single white people or conservatives or patriots or whatever do you want to call them, MAGA, extreme MAGA, Trump people, whatever. The other, the people that they have got on their side to believe in their, you know, propaganda and to believe in their their mental terrorism basically is what it is, you know, they would all feel like it would be okay. If, if this government went and exterminated every person that believed in Trump or voted for Trump or was pro-American or whatever, that portion of the country would be like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's a good thing.

Yeah, great. We've finally rid of them. And then guess what, though, is coming for you next because they're going to get rid of a subset of that population next. It never ends, but this is how they make it okay to go into authoritarianism. They make it okay. But I do wonder, though. like, would our military, if given the orders, go against our people like the soldiers in Nazi Germany? And we've often thought about that.

If it came down to, you know, Joe Biden saying, hey, look, we're going to fight against the domestic terrorist in our own country. Yeah, absolutely. Meaning the Republicans or the MAGA people. Or the pro-freedom or whatever. Your job as military is to go out. after the people in our own country and shoot them down. Yeah, because they're terrorists. Would they do it?

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I think there would be a lot of them that would refuse, but there would be a lot of them that would. I mean, you know, it's kind of similar to, and the reason we're talking about Operation Paperclip in this regard, I guess, is because it's kind of similar to some of the really bad police departments that you see out there. You know, it's all because of the head, right, the chief or the sheriff or the

the administration, the captains, lieutenants, if you get people in those departments that are bad, typically you're going to have bad police officers because, number one, those police officers that finally get a job to do this, and they're very proud of their job, but they know in these departments, and this is just a low-level police department, sheriff's department, they know that, like, they have to either get with the program or they are gone, released or fired. And this is what happens in law enforcement. And, you know, there's a lot of law enforcement that's really good departments. There's so many examples of law enforcement that have great sheriffs, great chiefs, great administration, and their police officers will reflect how good they are.

But also, there are departments that reflect how bad the administration is above them. We see this all the time as well. And so imagine as you go up the ladder, right, in the federal agencies, the FBI, the CIA. And then think about how political it gets in those realms. right? And then how secretive and how deep-stady and how covert clandestine operations are operating within these intelligence agencies. And so now you've got a job as a CIA agent. And, you know, and that's like, you know, one of the most prestigious jobs you could, in your mind, think you could ever get. So the CIA tells you, I mean, and you've got to think about what the CIA officers do.

I mean, we had one on our podcast. We talked about the Idaho murders. But what these officers do, is they go to foreign countries as spies or get in with government. I mean, they do the craziest shit on the planet. So the fact that the CIA might say, hey, we're going to do this. This is a part of big operation. And they'll tell them whatever they got to tell them to make them believe in the operation. But it doesn't necessarily change regardless of whether their operation is for what they're telling you or not. It doesn't change how effed up it may be.

And they're going to go along with it. And we got to remember, too, the CIA Central Intelligence Agency, they're not always using people that are, you know, just employees that they hire. They're using everyday people, people that fit in with a society that you would never think that's in CIA. Yeah, some of them have zero background in police. Right. You don't, yeah, you have no idea. And they infiltrate these people that have no background as far as, like, you know, police. or police enforcement or anything, they're putting normal everyday people into these positions to spy.

Yeah, because they know that like, you know, if you send people over to adversary countries, these countries are going to do backgrounds. Yeah, you've got to get away with it. Yeah, they're going to do backgrounds. So if you happen to get caught up in Russia or China and then they start investigating your background and you have all this law enforcement experience or federal experience, especially, you're dead. So that's why if you pull a mechanic from somewhere, like, hey, guys, are you willing to go through our CIA program? I mean, they literally just pull these people, random-ass people. Well, even like the dude that is with Washington Post or whatever that's in Russia right now,

that's being charged for an espionage right now as we speak, you know, he's a journalist, but he's being charged of spying for America in Russia. Well, he's a journalist, but keeping in mind, too, a journalism. journalist, quote unquote journalist, he's with the Washington Post. Okay. And what we do know about the Washington Post is, is that, I mean, it's kind of been the consensus, especially over the past year, Twitter files, Elon, Matt Taibi, so many of these Schellenberger, these journalists that have kind of exposed some of this.

But, you know, the Washington Post is starting to be known as a right-hand wing, like a right-hand of the government. Right. The government. They were a major propaganda influence of the government. Washington Post is on the worst. It's like an extension of the government pretty much. Yeah, it's like state-funded media. And so is it interesting that this reporter is jailed for espionage?

He is a Washington Post reporter. Could he be a CIA agent? We don't know. We don't know. I mean, it could be just normal journalist over there trying to report. But, damn, if you're inside of Russia, especially as a Washington Post, and if Russia knows anything about the Washington Post, they're going to know that they are heavily involved in the government,

which they probably do know that. I mean, if American citizens know that, I'm sure Russia knows, right? So, you know, it is interesting to, because we don't know the whole story with that, right? But, for example, take this today. We're not going to do a podcast about this tonight, but we just had someone, an Air National Guardsman,

21-year-old arrested by, I don't know what SWAT team, but it was probably some federal SWAT team, whether FBI or DOJ or whoever, they went to his house and arrest him. They found out that he, I guess, had worked at some military base at some point in time. For whatever reason, he had got access to classified documents, which I don't understand how it's that easy. Well, I was watching a news program about it, and they were saying, well, you have to have three things in place in order to even be able to view these documents. You have to go through security. You have to go through a disclosure where you sign it saying... Well, probably, you've got to have some kind of top secret clearance. Yeah, you have to go through, you have to have top secret clearance. You have to sign a disclosure thing saying that you're not going to share it with anyone.

And you have to... The only way you get it is a need-to-know basis. So if your job needs to know about these things, then you can have access to these. things. But what this dude did was he wasn't trying to be like a Snowden, which is weird what he even did. Like, he's crazy. He just put it on Discord for his buddies to see. Like I don't even yeah, I don't even think he was trying to do it to like do anything against the government or anything. He was just like, hey. He was dumb. Yeah. But he is 21. You know, 21 year olds are kind of dumb still sometimes. But the problem is that one of his buddies in the discord, and what discord is guys,

by the way, is it's basically the easiest way to chat with your gaming buddies, especially if you are a computer gamer, because that's how you go, you go to these chat rooms, you chat with each other while you're playing games or whatever. But he had went to this thing, he had posted these classified documents, and it was about the Russia-Ukraine war, right? And so he had went and posted these things. And I guess one of the guys, somewhere in this group, went and posted them in a public forum. That's how they, that's how it was known. Russia then, somehow, somehow. gets a hold of this from what the government's saying. Russia gets a hold of this and gets it translated. And then they realize that this is a very bad thing, a very bad leak. And let me tell you why it's a bad league. It's very bad for America.

Because it shows, basically, that this Russia-Ukraine war is really Russia-American war. This shows, without a doubt, this is America's war and this is a bad thing. The reason that this guy supposedly, I guess, had posted it to

his buddies because he is kind of like an anti- he's on the anti-war side of shit and he was just posting this to his buddies is like look man look at this crazy shit like this is what's really happening guys look this is proof and so but I don't think he was trying to do that to like overthrow the government or to

get stuff out where it wasn't supposed to be but any he's a 21 year old kid anytime you expose look he's exposed to government right I mean should he have access to these confidential records. And they were saying there's up to like 10,000 people that had the same access as he did.

Well, and the problem is, though, with this is that he exposed the corruption in the government and he's getting arrested for it. He got busted for it. It's like Snowden, even though he wasn't trying to do necessarily what Snowden was or Assange was, but he did it to his friends. In an innocent way. Yeah, but even though you should not take top secret documents, but the reality about the top secret documents stuff in general is that most of what is top secret in our government is because of how fucked up and corrupted is. Exactly. And so he's just exposed. I mean, it's like Snowden said, hey, we're in a 100% surveillance state in this country nowadays. The government has access to any and every conversation you have, be it via phone, email, whatever. Snowden exposed that because

he felt like this was a very, very bad thing for the American people. He exposed it. He has to now hide in Russia. And, you know, same thing with Assange. Assange, I guess... But he's in jail. Yeah. But Sange had, he was just a guy that had WikiLeaks, which was a leaks thing to where, you know, he, I guess, hosted leaks based on corruption of the government. And, but this guy is going to be in jail probably forever, too. Yeah. Well, it's really sad that you think about overall everything that's happening. anyone that leaks anything that's bad against the government, they're going to jail. Anything that has to do that's bad with the government, they're going to be in jail, they're going to stay in jail. Just like January 6th.

Oh, yeah. You know, all these people are still in jail. A lot of them have not even had trials yet or anything. They're just stuck in jail. And this is two years later. I did hear, though, that the shaman guy got out. Yeah, you got out. You did.

It's just crazy. Man, it's such a weird world. But I think Operation Paperclip, if anything, and I've said this, I said this a little earlier. I mean, I think if you just see the foundation of the intelligence agencies, especially the CIA, it should kind of tell you, or at least explain a little bit of why how corrupt and how just evil it seems that these people are, and especially with this administration, like right now we have an administration in the United States that is, I believe, a puppet. installed government. But at the very least, it is an installed puppet government for the deep state and for these

very corrupt agencies, which I all think leads back to the New World Order and the Great Reset and their global agenda. I think now, I think that's really why. I think the CIA and places like that have always been corrupt. I think they've done a lot of crazy shit in our past. JFK. We've talked about it. But I think now that the one world system is starting.

to come into play. I think that we're seeing it more. I think they are not caring that we see it as much because they want to make the people understand that we were all mighty and powerful. And this is what starts to happen as totalitarianism and dictatorships and communism comes about. They want to start showing how powerful they are. They want to start putting it in your face that, look, you go against us, this is the consequences. And they're no longer hiding this anymore. And they're doing this because they are softening you. up for look dudes this is how bad this shit's about to get and if you disagree with us or whatever we're going to make examples of you i think they did it with january 6th very coordinated uh thing i think there was

i mean i think so far i think they've identified at least 60 undercover intelligence agents that were undercover there many of which were probably instigators and and so on that kind of coordinated this whole thing but then you've got to think about the videos you saw with the police ushering everyone to the capital even people that were not trying to go the Capitol, they were trying to get as many people there as they could. There's just so much evil conspiracy behind all of this shit. It's like it is humans and people against these evil dictators. But what's sad to me as a person that is just an individual living in America, I am very patriotic about my country.

I love my country. I love, you know, I still think my country is number one in the world. You know, I love my country. I love being a part of my country. but there's so many things that are changing about my country. It's hard to be 100% patriotic about things that I now know that I didn't know before. Naming, you know, our Department of Justice, the whole justice system in general is corrupt. Yeah, especially now.

And that's really hard to be a patriotic person and believe in your country when you know your justice system is corrupt. It's very sad. And it's very sad to know that, you know, being an American and being proud of your own country, they're changing our country every day by even opening up borders and letting all these people from all over the world in and changing up our country. You know, we, you know, we were once known as the melting pot where we had a bunch of diversity, a bunch of people in America. But the number one thing is everyone had American values. Everyone believed in America and lived in America and wanted to be in America because we had so many great values and we could be prosperous. And this is a place where you can start at the bottom and you can make it big or not big based on how much you work or how little you work.

But now it's just all of our values are changing into something that I'm not so proud of. No. It's a sad day. And, you know, I mean, I told Sherry this today, I said, I want to, like, we, like, well, I've told you this many times. Like, and I think I even told a couple of you on Substack that, like, I just want to buy an island. Like, if I could figure out an island to buy that is, like, its own freaking island, that's not a part of a country, you know, I would do that just to be like, you know what, here I am. I'm done with, I mean, we can still talk about it. But being under it is the thing.

And like the tax law. and all of these things that is coming about in the United States, they are coming down hard on every single aspect of your life. They do not want you to be free in any shape, form or fashion. Freedom is now an illusion. I think it has been for a long time, but I think it's even more of an illusion than it once was. And yeah, we can say we have a free country, and we do to some extent,

but the reality is we're not free. If you wanted to go and buy your own land and not have a job and just work for what you do, work to live, right? you have chickens and eggs and beef or whatever. Guess what? You still got to pay taxes on that land. And if you don't, they're going to come take your land. So this is the problem. And there's no really solution in sight.

I think the problem is that, you know, Operation Paperclip kind of shows our foundation was built on evil. And I would like to say that our evilness has dissipated from that day, but I don't think so. I don't, you know, you look at what the DOJ and the FBI and, and all of these agencies are doing now to normal American people because maybe they don't want their kids to be exposed to drag queens or they don't want their kids to be transitioned behind their back,

these seven and eight and nine-year-olds. They don't want them, they don't want their kids coming home saying, I don't know if I'm a girl or boy or some of these teachers and some of these schools, these woke schools, are trying to transition these people's kids behind their back. Oh, now there's schools in Maine. They're actually giving girls. girls, those, what are they called, the bra binders or it binds your boobs?

We're talking about like it, like smushes them? Yeah. Schools are giving these out to girls that want to be boys or transition to boys behind their parents' backs. Their parents don't even know it. There's a girl, there's a parent suing a main school system right now for doing this behind her back. They actually gave her daughter a boob binder to wear. at school. Like, who does this?

Well, and look, you know, by the way, guys, one of our next episodes, our premium episodes on our substack that we talk about, one of the subjects is we're going to talk about vaccines. But not just the COVID thing. We're going to talk about all vaccines. And, you know, we have more problems with our kids in this country and not just this country across the world, but especially United States as far as autism and all these different diseases. And we got to talk about that But also, like, maybe we don't fully understand Maybe what we're injecting our kids with at a young age That may be doing to their minds,

Maybe do into their mental capacity. We don't understand what some of these scientists in these labs Are really creating and putting in these things. And I'm not going to go into that on here Because it will get banned or censored or whatever. Just to give you a startling statistic, it used to be like one in 100,000. Yeah.

It's now like, one. one and 32. Yeah, one and 30 something, yeah. It's nuts. For autism. Yeah, for autism. Imagine all the other stuff. I swear to God, when I was growing up, I didn't even know the word autism.

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Peace out. Peace out, guys. Don't wait. Already packed to pass. Call the cab, May's bass. And she said, I won't answer. If you call me when you're lonely,

I guess I let her go Never mind It's too late But I can't believe I let you slip I think nobody seven days a week and this Just can't be how I was supposed to end up It's not enough

I'm ready to just let you go away Like my friends think I should Because what if I just want to be with you I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do But honestly I can't remember if you love me Maybe I'm just feeling lonely I don't know

She got herself a guy And he's good No, everything she wanted Pack behind the pretty face But I kind of hope He breaks her heart Into little pieces And let me pick them all back up

We put them that together But I can't believe I let you slip I think about a seven days a week This just can't be how it's supposed to end up. Because what if you should really be with how you didn't? But honestly, I can't remember if I loved you. But it feels like I did when I think about you now.

It's like I did when I think about you.