Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Orbs, UFOs & Interdimensional Beings | Are They Watching Us?

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

In this episode of Investigate Earth, we sit down with Brittani and Sheri to hear their first-hand experiences with orbs, UFOs, and unexplained encounters that challenge everything we think we know ab...out reality. Brittani shares chilling stories of strange lights and feelings she can’t quite explain — are they visitors from another dimension, or something more sinister? Sheri opens up about her own encounters and the questions they’ve left her with about good, evil, and what might be watching us from beyond. Are these mysterious phenomena harmless glimpses into other realms… or signs of something darker? Join us as we explore the possibilities — interdimensional beings, spiritual entities, or even evil forces hiding in plain sight.Check out our merchandise: https://investigateearthstore.com

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Hello and welcome back to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host, chat, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we've got a fascinating conversation lined up because the skies and maybe even the space between dimensions are alive with mystery. Joining us tonight is Brittany and Sherry, both whom have had personal chilling and at times beautiful experiences with orbs, UFOs, or some other type of phenomena that defy easy explanation. Are these just strange lights in the sky? Are the interdimensional travelers peeking into our world? Or could some of them be something darker? Maybe even evil? We're going to dive into what they've
Starting point is 00:01:06 seen, what it felt like in those moments, and what they believe is really behind these encounters. Buckle up, this is one that's going to blur the lines between physical and spiritual. Guys, welcome to the show. It is July to 13th, 2025. Very excited about this topic because we have talked about this so, so much. We've had multiple UFO. in UIP episodes, but I've wanted to get Brittany on this show for quite some time. She's been a listener of ours for quite a while. I don't know exactly how long we'll ask her in just a moment, but we've talked to Brittany back and forth.
Starting point is 00:01:38 She posts a lot of videos on X, which we'll talk about. She has had some crazy experiences with UFOs or something. I'm not exactly sure what she's experienced, but we also know that we've talked about in the past on this show that Sherry has had these experiences. And for people that are in our telegram chat, you definitely know. that she's had these experiences because at times we've literally been on live video
Starting point is 00:01:59 with some of our listeners and some of our people on telegram where these things would pop up and show up and some of our telegram listeners have actually seen these things on video to some degree. So pretty crazy conversation we're going to have very excited about this. Brittany, welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Brittany, tell us a little bit about you, where are you from? When did you start experiencing this phenomenon or whatever we're going to call it? Hi, yeah. So I started listening to you guys probably like, I don't know. I want to say like three years ago, I don't remember how I found you guys. I wasn't always into conspiracy or anything like that. I think it happened kind of during the Trump kind of election and just through that.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I think I found you guys politically. And then I agreed with so much. Like I found out you guys were talking about all these conspiracy stories and kind of the same kind of thing I was interested in. And I would say a couple years ago, it was probably, so when I start with UFOs, I hated like science fiction, science, anything to do with that. My entire life, basically, I had a younger brother who was really into space and science and all of that. and that was just not my thing. I never liked Star Wars, Star Trek, like, even space movies, I always told my husband,
Starting point is 00:03:30 if it's a space movie, I don't want to watch it, it gives me anxiety. Yeah. I hear that. It was, I had zero interest. And in fact, when I met my husband, I met him, it's been a while, probably like 15 years, but I met him when I was only 18,
Starting point is 00:03:47 and he had moved up. I'm in Reno right now, Reno, Nevada. and he had moved up here from Las Vegas, Nevada, and that's where he grew up. Yeah. So he kind of grew up not in the city, but out like north of Las Vegas in the desert. And it was very underdeveloped at the time. And it was, excuse me, sorry, it was out towards Area 51. So he would, he grew up like dirt biking in the Nevada desert.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And he would tell me stories when I met him. that when him and his friends were out there dirt biking, they would see like these little blue lights and they would kind of dart across the sky. They didn't make sense. Like they weren't planes. They weren't something you could explain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And I just, I never believed him, honestly. I thought he was full of crap. I just didn't put much faith into it. And it's not that I don't believe in, like, ghost or anything like that because I did. I was always very interested in the paranormal but it was the alien, the UFO. I was just
Starting point is 00:05:00 and I knew there's probably like there's life out there but them coming here it was nothing I was interested in it was nothing I thought about and I just thought okay like whatever maybe you saw that maybe I don't know I just didn't really believe them and for people that don't understand
Starting point is 00:05:18 so the space in between Reno and Las Vegas is basically nothing. I mean, if you were to... It's empty, yeah. Yeah, if you were to fly from Las Vegas to Reno, Nevada, in a straight line, you essentially have mostly military base. It's restricted airspace in a lot of cases. A large swath of Nevada is all military insulation.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Nellis Air Force base. There's various bases around there. It's also where Area 51 is, Area S4, Area 48, Area 47. And we always hear about Area 51 because it's so famous. and popular. But if you actually look on a map, the military designation map in the area of Nevada, there are multiple areas. So area 51 just happened to become famous and notorious, but you also have various other areas.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And there are little sections on the map. It'll say area 46, area 42, area 40, area 39, you know, so on and so forth. And in this area, they do a lot of missile testing, bomb testing, you name it. They also have a lot of highly advanced fighters out there. Many people believe that this is where likely they do test our latest and greatest fighter jets, the stuff that we're trying to work on, keep away from China, keep away from, you know, the possibility of our foreign adversaries reverse engineering stuff. But this is also where a lot of people have potentially seen UFOs, orbs, you name it. And so, Brittany, you're you're kind of right in that zone. I guess you can almost call it like the Goldilocks zone of UFOs and UAPs.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Well, and also Bob Lazar said that's where we are testing reverse engineering and we're actually doing these things right where Brittany lives. Yeah. So I'm a little bit jealous that she's there and I'm here. I'm going to come visit you, Brittany. Yeah, I'm a joke. And I will say like where our house is, so where I'm usually filming these orbs and stuff over our house, I back up. I'm not in Reno and the city limits. I'm kind of outside.
Starting point is 00:07:17 It's actually Sparks is another safe. and it's outside arena. It's a little smaller, but it's still a city. And then I'm even further outside of that in another area on the outskirts. And actually where my house is backs up to what's called the Parra range. And basically from behind my house where I'm filming a lot of these to the northeast of Pyramid Lake, which has a lot of kind of its own paranormal lore and significant. kind of in that area.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And then directly east and behind, right, I'm filming these. It's that parra range and there's nothing. It's that middle of Nevada, like for hundreds of miles, there's nothing out there. Fernley and Fallon are kind of behind my house. Okay. Yeah, Fallon, the body up. Yeah, and Fallon does have a huge Air Force base that does do, like, the Red Flag training and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:16 So I do know they definitely test things out here. and they do trainings. So I am aware of that. But that's still pretty far from where I'm located. Yeah. So we're going to play a video in just a moment, Brittany, for everyone to kind of understand a little bit about C5, Dr. Stephen Greer. We'll kind of play a video to help people understand maybe.
Starting point is 00:08:37 But when we're explaining your area and kind of where you're at, there's probably going to be a lot of people who are like, well, it's probably reverse engineered technology. That's probably all it is. Or at the very least, is some of our advanced weapons, advanced aircraft, you name it. Have you specifically done things or interacted with things that you think have drew these things in at times where it was almost unmistakable?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Is this been a pattern? What would you say about that? And in comparison to just you live near military bases and you likely see lights in the sky? Absolutely. So I think it was probably about 13 years ago. I lived out in the same area, not in our house. now, but in an apartment complex, very close. And me and my husband, we were younger.
Starting point is 00:09:25 We worked at a restaurant at the time. And this is what actually got me started on CE5 and kind of that whole track I went down. But we had gone outside one night after work, and we worked at a little, like, Italian restaurant. I was maybe 21. We came home. We were outside smoking a cigarette on the balcony. And all of a sudden, it looked like over the mountains.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I could see like a green, like, haze or like a light. So we saw like this light kind of coming over the mountains or I did. And as it got closer, it looked. The shape was almost, it's so hard to describe. It was like so big. It looked like the sky was maybe moving. And I couldn't quite make out what was happening. and I kind of pointed out to my husband now,
Starting point is 00:10:22 but he was my boyfriend at the time. And I was like, Eric, you know, look, like, what is that? And I was looking at the light and kind of like this dark space that was moving. And as it got closer, I could make out of shape. And it didn't really have lights on. That was kind of in the background almost. It was very dark. It was like a dark black to a gray color.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It blended in with the sky, but it was like blocking out. the stars and at a green glow maybe around it. And it was, I always thought it was a triangle. But I've seen like, I think it's Michael Herrera. He's put out like a hexagonal craft that looks like it could have been that to me. All I know is it was so large. We only ever saw one side of it. So I can make out a point, which is why we thought was maybe trying,
Starting point is 00:11:16 And I could also make out like an edge in the middle where it looked like there was like either a row of windows or something, vents or windows that sort of jutted out in the middle. And there was definitely an edge to it. So we thought it was a huge triangle shape. But it could have been maybe like a hexagonal. It had an edge to it. But it was so large. We only ever saw one side. So I really don't know the shape.
Starting point is 00:11:40 But it was so big and it was silent. And all we both remember is it was there. we remember seeing it. Neither one of us, though, remembers how it left, which is weird. So he's like, oh, it just kind of disappeared. I'm like, but why don't we remember, like, how it left? Yeah, that is weird. Well, how long was it, like, in the sky?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Were you watching it for, like, seconds, minutes? It was probably, it was probably like two minutes, maybe the entire thing. We were smoking. I saw the lights. we kind of both realized the shape. I think we zoned in on it, maybe like a minute. And then I just remember it being gone.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I do remember we went inside after and kind of, it wasn't in the time of like smartphones. It was probably back in 2012 or 2013. So there was like iPhones, but it was like the first one or two. I did have an iPhone, but it wasn't like on me all the time. My husband still had like a flip.
Starting point is 00:12:44 phone. I remember we came in and started looking on the internet. Like, did anyone else see this? We did find something like a similar sighting in Oregon, which isn't too far. But that was it. And it was just kind of, I don't know, it was just kind of strange. And it always stuck out. So after that is when I started investigating. And I found Stephen Greer and kind of started experimenting with CE5. Hmm. So after you started experimenting with C.5, were you kind of always looking in the sky before C.E.5? I mean, would you have noticed maybe things that have shown up since you have been experimenting with C.E.5? Or is there a noticeable difference in occurrences that you see outside of your house or wherever you are trying to view these orbs or whatever they are? So I never really was that interested until I probably started my C.E5. It wasn't until like 20, 20, So it was actually, it was years after that. That was the experience that got me like, oh, maybe there's something here.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah. But it was still like years after that until I watched, I think it was Stephen Greer's documentary. I don't remember what's called, but like contact of the fifth kind or something. I watched that. And I was like, you know what? Like, if he can do that, I was like, I've always had this kind of. connection, I can probably do that. And then I just remember it was 2023.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I went out. I got his app. I started with like the crop circle tones, his guided meditation. And I saw something. And my kids were out that night. And I still have the video like the first one. And I've posted it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I can share it again. But my kids were like, oh my God. Like there's a UFO. And I was like, no. Like you and I was like, no, it's not that. But then it was like it was a circling like kind of color changing light. It was just like nothing you could describe or explain.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah. So how was it different from an airplane like movement wise? Movement wise, it's much more sporadic. There's not like a straight line. You'll lose it sometimes. It's like a blinking kind of like. like a strobe light almost, but it doesn't have like a body. There's no sound.
Starting point is 00:15:16 There's no. And I've had some videos I posted where I'll have like, look, here's a plane that goes by. Well, there's this orb. Like, here's the difference. So I know the difference, but sometimes it's hard, I think, for some people in videos to see the difference. Right. Yeah. And it's just weird because you mentioned that you could connect with this kind of before.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And you're like, if he can do it, I can do it. What do you mean by that? Like, did you, do you have connections with other things before you saw this thing in the sky? I and does. Like, I've always had an interest in the paranormal. Me too. I can remember. Yeah, I know you've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I don't know if it has to do. I am Aquarius. And I know they're kind of spiritual and out there. So I don't know if it has to do with that. I can remember a house I grew up in really young. I don't know who it was haunted, but I know my mom had experiences there. That's where I started having these reoccurring nightmares as a child. And I actually, since I got into like the UFO world, I've relooked at some of these nightmares I had as a child.
Starting point is 00:16:33 and even with talking with some different researchers and stuff, they kind of stand out now. I did have one nightmare as a child. So I've been terrified of the dark my entire life. And my parents, they started maybe around the age of five. They would try to put me in my room to sleep, and I would just scream, like bloody murder. And they'd be like, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:17:02 They would do like, there's no monsters, but they said they couldn't leave me in my room. Like, I would not let them leave me in the dark. And to this day as an adult, I'm still like that. Now that I'm married, like I can sleep in the dark if someone's in the room with me, but my husband, if he's like working overnight or something, I'll still sleep with a light on. And that's been with me since I was very young. And I can read.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah, go ahead. Like reoccurring dreams? It was like the same dream. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. So the one I had that I remember the most that kind of started it. And it had to have started.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I was maybe like three to five years old. I would have this dream. And what I remember of it is it would be, I thought it was like a hospital. Like it was a very medical setting, like a white kind of surgical room with metal beds. and from what I could tell it looked like old people were all on these beds, and I thought they were killing them. But I don't think they were necessarily old. I think they were just adults because I was like three.
Starting point is 00:18:18 They were just adults that were on these beds that I saw like hooked up to machines, and they didn't look like they were alive. But I just remember thinking this man, and I don't remember what he looked like. I wish I did. In my mind now, I picture him almost, because I remember like a long black cape. I picture him almost as like the guy from grandma's boy movie,
Starting point is 00:18:43 but I know that can't be what he looked like. What is that? I love that movie. I did not see the movie. Can you guys explain? Like a long black cape, like Matrix-Cy with like nerdy black, like hair. Kind of like that. but he would come and I was so afraid of him.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And I just remember thinking he was going to take my entire family and I'd be running from him in the house. And he would always find me under the dining room table. And I would like, there was one dream where I think I stole his pink crayon. And I don't know what that. I mean, I was really young. But I thought I was getting back at him by stealing his pink crayon and he found me and he still like drugged me out.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So that was one dream I had. And then there was another one I had all the time that was reoccurring. That was kind of interesting, especially now hearing like Chris Bloodso with the lady and stuff. I would have these dreams. And I called her the creepy like polka dot ghost. But it was, she was covered in lace. It was like this white lace ghost lady. And she would have me follow her through these mazes.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And they would be like rose gardens almost. and I would be like trying to run away from her in these mazes. But I just remember this white ghost lady and trying to get out of these mazes. So it was another dream. And those were both terrifying to me as a child. I bet they were. Now, as far as paranormal activity that your mom experienced in your house, what were kind of the things that she was experiencing?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh, yeah. So she hasn't told you much, but she has said that when we're, lived in that house. She had a couple experiences. One in particular. She remembers washing dishes. And she heard like, she thought it was my dad at the time, maybe saying her name. She heard like someone whispering. Her name was Nicole. And she heard someone whispering that. And she thought, oh, it might be my dad or something, but he wasn't even home. So she would have that kind of thing. And I know also in that house that my grandma used to babysit me and my little brother there. And there were times or there was at least one time where she had put us down for a nap.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And I think she left the house. She ran away, terrified and had to call my mom because she kept hearing and crying, but she would go in the room and we were sound asleep. And my brother would have this clear, like, fluid. like under him or around him, but there was no crying. There was nothing going on. She would hear it and then come in there. We'd be asleep and there was just this clear fluid around my brother.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And at one point, she left the house and had to call my mom. Now, did your brother experience any of this as well? My brother now, I mean, I don't know as a child. He's very, no, he's very, like, scientific, you know, he's an engineer now. he thinks I'm insane. Yeah, got you. Well, and here's the thing, too. So with the C-5 stuff and especially your experiences, it's interesting because your
Starting point is 00:22:03 experiences, and I'm sure Sherry will talk about them just a little bit about hers, your experiences as a child and Sherry's experiences of a child are very similar. And it's not just you and Sherry's experiences like this. There are, if you ask a lot of people that may have these post-childhood experiences later in life as adults or whatever to where they do possibly encounter paranormal or these orbs or UFOs or whatever, you can ask so many of those people and many times they will tell you about a story in their childhood or something that has haunted them in some way, shape, or form in their minds for a long time.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And I think for so long, I mean, especially until mainstream media started talking about UFOs and UAPs and this whole phenomenon, you know, where it started to become more real for people, They just used to classify you guys as crazy. Crazy, right? And it was just like, well, they're crazy or they're out there. I mean, I went to a psychologist over this stuff because I was seeing things and things were happening to me. My mom's like, you need help, Sherry. And I'm like, no, this is what's really happening to me, mom.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I swear to God. And Sherry, so some of your experience as a kid, I know you've talked about it before, but you used to have like these paralyzing dreams, right? Yes. And whatever was in our house and my brother experienced them as well. well, my parents really didn't. It was just mainly my brother and I, but we lived like in the basement of the house and my parents lived on the top floor. But something was in that basement.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And I don't know what it was, but it was not a good entity. It was something that was always scary. It was frightening. And I don't know if I was dreaming or if I was awake, but it was paralyzing experiences where my brother was right next door to me in my room. and I remember like watching David Letterman, I swear to God, in high school, watching David Letterman, and then all of a sudden I go into this trance and I have this scary, like, feeling over me and it's evil, an evil presence. And I can't even scream to my brother to come help me. And you weren't going to sleep at this time, or you?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah, well, David Letterman's what, 11 o'clock at night. Yeah, that's when I was going to sleep. I just say, sorry, I interrupt sometimes. I have ADHD. It's just like when I think of something. Yeah, I do too. I've noticed sometimes like I'll have dreams specifically where I'm trying to scream and I can't. Like there's no sound coming out.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yes. I don't know if that's something you have too. Yes. And you're like I felt wide awake and I could, my body was paralyzed and I wanted to scream for my brother and nothing will come out. And it's the most terrifying experience. I've ever had in my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And it was ongoing. It happened to me all the time. But it's almost like you're afraid to talk about it during the day because people think you're crazy that you're experiencing this. But I went through this as a child all the way into my high school years in that house. And I thought it had something to do with the house. But what's crazy is when I moved from Colorado all the way to South Carolina, it followed me, whatever it was or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'm able to experience that other people aren't able to experience, it follows you. It's not because of a house. Yeah. Yeah, I think it does. It definitely follows the person. I don't think it has to do all the time with location. I think people are more important. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And so, and Sherry, by the way, when we get into your story about the river and the golf course and all that stuff, because there's another reason we want to do this was because our recent experience, which we haven't talked a whole lot about. but it's insane because that's one of those experiences. It's not just you that experienced it. It was me. It was actually a couple of your friends kind of that did the same thing. They kind of all saw this. There's been people on our telegrams say, you know, they've heard when we went down to this specific place at the river.
Starting point is 00:26:03 And some of them even saw some lights and stuff because it's really hard at night on camera on live video. But they even saw some lights and some of this stuff. But, you know, some of them were like, man, I would love to just come up there and see if I could see it. And I'm like, I guarantee you you can because it's not something that she only sees. And. So what are the orbs that you guys see by the river? Because I know I've heard you guys talk about them and you say they're like red or can you, what do they look like? All right.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Can I explain this year? And then you can elaborate because I just want to make sure that like, okay. So even before I just want to preference this though, before we even experience the or. at the river, we have experienced stuff in this house. Oh, yeah, for sure. In South Carolina, we, you know, we've had really weird stuff go on in the house. Chad has filmed me going down the stairs and orbs following me down the stairs, like on video. Just little tiny white, just little tiny white orbs.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And you don't know if it's a reflection of the light of the camera or anything like that. We've done it so many different ways to where it's like there's no way. We even took lights off in some cases to where there was no reflections. that were still there. But you can't dismiss when a toilet slams on itself or a clock falls off the wall or things like that. Yeah. And some of these things in the house, though, like I remember,
Starting point is 00:27:27 and so just to kind of tell a little bit of a backstory of the house situations, when we had Donna on our podcast where she lost her son and he was allegedly lost a suicide, but she believes it was potentially murder. And when she came over, did the podcast with us, we had talked about some of the stuff and when she was over here, I think it was actually right when she left, maybe, but I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah, right when she left and I think that she was like, I just wish she would give me a sign and, you know, just she knew, but, and then Sherry started saying, yeah, I felt him. Yeah, and Sherry was saying this.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And then as soon as that happened, like the giant clock upstairs, uh, like crashed off the wall and like on the floor. I mean, it was like someone just slammed it on, on the floor upstairs. We were downstairs.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And then you heard like, Tollet lid slamming and doors shutting and people walking upstairs. And anytime Sherry starts to say, hey, I fill this or I'm interacting with this or whatever. And she's not being weird when she's saying this. She's just saying it just, you know, randomly, you will experience these type of things in some cases. And so we had had these experiences in the house. And it's been multiple experiences. There's been one where since I lost my dad probably in, what was that, 2015?
Starting point is 00:28:38 I can't remember now, 15, 16s or so. I was always weirded out the fact I never had a dream about my dad. You know, it was like, I wish I had a dream about my dad. Just see like, just so you could kind of touch base with him in some way, shape, or form in some type of way, even if it's a dream. And never had a dream about my dad until one night, we were upstairs. And it was a very weird experience. But we felt like we kind of felt both my dad and her dad in the room that we feel like is haunted in this house. There's one room in particular.
Starting point is 00:29:09 It feels like it's like a portal or something. that's where you usually hear people walking from and two upstairs. We had a very weird experience in that room one night. Won't even go into that because it'll make it sound really crazy. Don't even need to. Don't even need to go to that. So we started riding the golf cart around the golf course. And we've been doing this for two or three years.
Starting point is 00:29:28 But I've always been fascinated with the sky. And that's what I love to do is watch the sky. Not necessarily for orbs or anything, but I just think it's so glorious and beautiful. And, you know, it's like diamonds in the sky. Yeah. And there was one night in particular after a podcast. There was one night in particular after a podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:45 We were talking about UFOs. We were talking about all this stuff. We went outside. We've talked about this before. But we had saw these orbs, these white orb lights. They were not satellites. These things were moving erratically left to right, various different things. Going from one to three in a triangle form.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah. It was crazy. I've seen those too. And I've posted a couple of videos where I've seen them traveling in a triangle formation. which I'm like, okay, that's not stars. That's not satellites. Like what else could that be? Well, and we had been tracking these things for a while because we would see them.
Starting point is 00:30:21 They would do weird stuff over our house at times, especially when Sherry was out there trying to like say, hey, are you going to show up tonight? Are you going to do this? And then we start seeing them. And then so someone had said, and I know it sounds crazy. Someone said, hey, get a Geiger counter, radiation counter. Just to see like when you see these things, see if the radiation spikes in any way should reform any of this. So we did. And when we started seeing these things, the radiation spikes were massive.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm talking about radiation spikes like you would put in a microwave. When you turn a microwave on, it was that high of radiation. And not only that. It's funny to say that because I had an experience one time where I came inside. I had gone out to do my C5, whatever I do every night. And I had to come back in, like maybe only 10, 15 minutes later. And I was so sick. my husband was like what happened to you i was like i don't know it literally felt the only way you could
Starting point is 00:31:15 describe it is like something zapped me it was like microwaved um i just remember coming i was hot i was nauseous i had a pounding headache and it lasted maybe two or three hours until i fell asleep but i got so sick and it was like there was a flash i sometimes get these um kind of lightning balls that will come down and they come down almost like street level, roof level, very close. And they'll be blue or white. And I had had one of those. And then I got very, very sick. That's great. Now, I have not been sick through that. But did you ever experience, when you experience these things, I want to ask you one question real quick. And I know Chad wants to finish the story, but do car alarms or anything else go off around when this happens to you?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I have not noticed that. No. Okay. So the night, and to finish the story, the night that we all hell was breaking loose in the sky that night, it was very strange. But when we had saw these white lights, they were white light lights and had no blinking, none of that stuff. And the interesting thing, though, was we did see what I think appeared to be fighter jets way up in the sky, kind of near these things potentially. The reason why I say fighter jets is, number one, they're really high. Number two, you could see a red light on them.
Starting point is 00:32:38 but when you would look at flight radar, there was no airplanes up there at all. So it had to have been military likely that was up in the sky. But it was kind of in and around where these orbs were way up in the sky, no sound of any of these things. But as they were kind of moving across, when they split into three, which was nuts.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I mean, it was one orb going across the sky, moved left to right, and once it moved right. And this was in a very, very quick motion. It moved left and then it moved right, almost instantaneously, and then it split from that one into three.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And once it did that right above us, we had like three or four car alarms going off within two or three houses next to us. And including our own car alarm. We had our car alarm going off. We had our neighbor's car alarm go off. And we had the people across the street's car alarm go off. And so it was like whatever happened there was insane. And then our Geiger counter went the highest we've ever seen it for radiation spike. So obviously whatever that radiation signal was that was coming down somehow in some way triggered car alarms.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And there was no vibration. There was no sound. It was something through some type of signal or electromagnetic pulse. I don't know exactly what it was. But that was insane. So getting on to the river, I want to explain this before we get into more Brittany's. We started going to the river, not necessarily for any reason in particular, but there were times. I was depressed.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Well, yeah, there were times that, you know, especially with the podcast and just going. Yeah, in school. I was still a teacher and I was stressing out. Teething is hard right now. I was like, oh my gosh. I just need to go ground myself with the earth. Yeah. Yeah, and Sherry started ground ourselves. We started going to this one place kind of is way out, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I mean, it is on a golf course technically, but it's way out and not really near a lot of houses, not really near anything. it is on one hole of this golf course that kind of aligns with the river. And Sherry started to ground herself probably two years ago. She would just take her shoes off, go out there by the river and the sand and where the grass was. And that was the first time we saw these little red orbs kind of above you, which is weird.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And then it was after that probably a year after that, you started going back to the same place for whatever reason. You wanted to see if you would experience or we could see those orbs again. But what actually started happening was when we would sit there the golf cart to be night. It would probably be 930, 10 o'clock at night.
Starting point is 00:35:06 We'd be pointing in one particular direction. It doesn't really matter. But we were by the river. We heard the river. We started seeing these orbs in the river. Yeah, like in the water. Yeah, it looked like they were lights. It looked like shiny fish or something.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Yeah, imagine a fish at like 10 o'clock at night in pitch black. And imagine a fish had a hook in its mouth, but was carrying an LED light under the water. That's what this looked like. And it was bunches. The fact of you guys say they're red is kind of interesting because the ones I think I'm close are either like white or like blue. Yeah, they're usually white. I've never seen red. I think we've only seen them one time that were red. And I don't want to see red anymore because I heard that that is really bad. Well, you were in your worst mental state kind of at that time.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I was like in tears. I was crying. It was the end of the school year. You know, you know how it is. It's just like when everything is this building up on you. And I'm like, I can't take anymore. Yeah. And so we had started seeing these things in the water. And then the next two or three or four times we would go back to the same place. Then we started seeing now there is a bridge probably about a half a mile away that connects to a road that goes left to right. So there's, you know, you can see the car lights in the distance in some way shape or form left to right, but you can kind of barely see them through trees.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But this is still a half a mile away. And so we started showing up at this place over the past six months to eight months, I guess. And Sherry would just go out there and start trying to communicate with things, kind of like the CE5 stuff. But she was just curious if she could, because especially after the orb incident and the weird stuff in the water. And so she started doing this. And then there started being these orbs come out from the bushes. And like from like within 50 to 75 yards from us. And the trees.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yes. But then there were like spotlights coming out behind bushes that look like. like they were walking towards us. I remember the first time we saw him, I told Chera was like, get back in the golf cart. We don't have her gun. I said it may be someone homeless that would walk this way away from, you know, from the bridge. And I guess they just have a really bright spotlight. But these spotlights looked blue and green to me. Yeah, they looked, I don't know. Yeah, some of them did. The last one we saw was Shannon Amber. Yeah, was more yellowish. Yellow orange. Yeah. And so the last time we showed up, we took Sherry's friends.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Sherry was out there talking these things. And then out of nowhere, right in front of us, these three bright orange and white looking spotlights. They're three in a triangle type formation kind of, but they're just like 50 yards from us on the other side of the bush. So then Sherry and Amber were like, hey, we're going to go walk and just see if there's someone over there. I was like, no, first of all, you should not do that because I'm still thinking in my head. Like, don't walk over there.
Starting point is 00:37:51 It might be homeless people or something. Yeah, but they walk over there and then we follow them on the golf cart. And there's no one there, of course, but the lights disappear. But these lights are not. I mean, it looks like you have halogen lights that are shining right towards you, right 50 yards from you. And so this particular night, once we saw this, and I think this was the most prevalent lights we had seen in a while. I mean, they were very bright, very pronounced. But it's almost hard to see the shape of them because of the light.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah, I mean. Kind of like maybe what you're seeing in the sky. Well, it's very bright and it's very close, though. It's not in the sky. This is very bright and very close and it's right. And it's on the ground. but as we as we left here that night i told them i was like hey let's go we got a roll we left and probably about two minutes later our golf cart dies and this is not an old golf cart is like
Starting point is 00:38:40 pretty much brand new is i mean two years old so our golf cart dies my phone dies and i'm like what the hell and so we had to push this damn golf cart two miles probably about two miles or a mile and a half we had to push the golf cart all the way back so i was like i have no idea guys why this golf cart died so the next day i was looking i i i've i've i've picked up the seat of the golf cart and the there's a there's a thick metal terminal on the battery that had completely melted the metal completely and it melted from that into the battery and the whole the whole deal so something melted the hell out of it we asked the golf cart people are like we're like well i guess it could be a bad connection but like i've we've never really
Starting point is 00:39:20 seen it do that i mean that's nuts especially considering all of these connections are tight have you noticed i was like no because we look at the batteries all the time yeah because you have to pour like, what is it, distilled water into the batteries. Yeah. Yeah, you got to do it ever so often. But whatever this thing was, whatever that night was, it melted, I think it melted the freaking battery. And it also killed my phone.
Starting point is 00:39:42 We got home that night and I was telling people on our television, I believe it. This is insane. It was nuts. I've had, like, there's been a couple of times. I've had almost an emotional response. So usually they're far enough away. I just see lights.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I take a video or something. But I've had a couple of experiences specifically with the pulsating ones. They're like these large white lights. And when I take pictures of them, they almost have this blue spiral. But when I've come in contact with those, they've given me like an emotional response.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I'll also point out tears sometimes. I'll get like overwhelming joy. But then I've also got, There was one. It was maybe the first one I saw like that. And when I started filming it and sort of zooming in and just remember, like at first, I had like an overwhelming, I was almost in a trance. Like I kind of was in a daze.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I just felt warm and sort of happy. But then it started getting closer and closer and bigger. And as it got closer, I got this overwhelming sense of fear. like more than anything i can't even describe what it felt like it was like i was going to be shown something that was too real like it was more real than what we're living right like they were going to pull me out to like what is the real world and it was too much for me to even um grasp almost like i just remember kind of having almost like a panic attack and just kind of like, oh, my God, it's too much to even handle.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And I got this overwhelming sense of fear and I ended up running inside. And that was my first experience with those pulsating ones. And I've only seen them maybe two or three times since then. And any time I see those, I have a very emotional response. So that's kind of interesting too. But it is kind of crazy that we both went through like almost a paranormal thing growing up as children. And we're seeing these now. And you're right.
Starting point is 00:41:57 When I see these things, it does bring me a sense of joy. And then when people, you know, that are Christians or whatever and saying, this is not a sense of joy. This is evil. This is Satan. This is this. But I don't feel that way inside. It almost gives me a sense of happiness that I am relating or communicating or whatever. But I think I understand what you're saying when they get really close.
Starting point is 00:42:22 it is kind of scary and sometimes I try to put on my my my mean face and say oh chad gets scared but i'm not scared of these things well no i'm not scared but it is kind of scary but listen but sherry what is the one thing i can do that make them instantly go well that was one time you did that chad well okay one time but yeah the the the time before the bright orange ones there were two bright white ones that came out of the bush no those were the blue ones whatever anyways and i had said i said just so you guys know out here because Sherry was talking these things and I was like this is kind of like you said Brittany this shit's getting a little too real right now I don't like this because I know these are not homeless people now I know these are not people but I said you were scared yeah but I said just so you guys know I believe in
Starting point is 00:43:04 Jesus and Jesus my protector and I ain't nothing you guys are going to do they're going to scare me and guess what they went away instantly sure he got mad at me actually that night because he's like why did you make them go away yeah I think I felt like you were trying to scare them away I can get that too because sometimes when I see them, my first response, sometimes I'll get like overwhelming good emotions, like almost two tears like from beauty. Just like, oh my God, this is happening. It's here. It's responding.
Starting point is 00:43:33 But then there's those experiences. I've had a couple times too, like I said, where it gets almost too real. Like it's coming too close. I'm like, I don't want to know this. Like it's getting too close. Something's happening I don't like. So I don't know. I get pulled in both directions.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Right. And sometimes you wonder like, damn, are these things going to come and abduct me and do all these experiments on me and make me go in pain? Right. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:03 and look, the reality is you never know. And by the way, I don't know if you guys know this, but I didn't tell Brittany is and Sherry does know this. But probably our next episode or the episode after this,
Starting point is 00:44:11 we're going to have James on. And James has been on the pockets. He actually did the E. episode with us and James knows the Bible very well but I told James I said before you come on I want to I want to talk to Sherry and Brittany about their experiences because I think that there's some things that we can talk about when James comes on just from his point of view the biblical side the spiritual side all of that to where maybe he can at least shed light on how he feels about this because he's talked about this with us on telegram he can shed light all he wants but all I know is what's happening
Starting point is 00:44:42 and I know it is the truth yeah I don't feel like it is something that is Satan or devilish or something that I should be afraid of. I don't feel that. And when you said, like, you brought up something about the blue ones. I did have an experience with a blue orb, and it was one of, like, the ones that comes down close. It came, it was probably roof level. But at the time, I just remember thinking it went by so fast.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I thought it was going to take my head off. Like, it felt like it must have gone, like an inch. over my head, but looking back is probably like at the top of my roof. But it was so fast and it was bright blue. And it looked like just the ball of like blue flame. And it went right over my head. But it was very, very fast.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Yeah. I want to get to a clip, guys, if we may. Tim Poole, this is an Alex Jones thing that he had a little while back. But he talks about GOP congressman Eric Burleson and Tim Poole, where he says Alex Jones is right about aliens being interdimensional beings. I want to play this. clip from Tim Poole. And we'll get a little bit about what Alex Jones says here also.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Listen. What if, you know, because I think, you know, again, Alex Jones is talking about interdimensional beings that are sending guidance to elites, telling them what to do. What if aliens, as people believe them to be, are actually interdimensional. And that explains how they're able to travel vast different. It explains what we can't see. Yeah. You know, we don't see other civilizations.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It explains how we're like, how do you. travel a billion light years. You don't. It's through space time or whatever, through dimensions. And what if these are not necessarily smarter, but more advanced entities that are controlling the flow of our existence for their own ends? Yeah, an interdimensional thing was like a meme with Alex Jones. But then your colleague, Rep Luna, I think a year or two ago, literally came out and said,
Starting point is 00:46:39 I don't know if she believed in it or she had proof that there were interdimensional beings. She definitely stated it. Yeah. I'm like, whoa. So in the very first hearing, the witness, the big whistleblower, David Grush, in his report that he gave to us, and I read it beforehand, and that struck me the most out of his report was that he said, he said, you know, one of the theories is that what we're experiencing is, you know, aliens are are interdimensional. And so in my, whenever I, in the hearing, I had five minutes, I asked him that question. can he drill into that? And it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It was really an interesting topic. All right. So I've talked about this. I want to get to the Trump stuff and the energy in your theory that I think is absolutely definitely part, but that's definitely actually going on. I don't know how much of it is,
Starting point is 00:47:28 and I'll explain why. But ever since I was a child, and a lot of people have this phenomenon. That's why it's talked about in all cultures in history. I would have dreams of things, sometimes innocuous, and I'm serious,
Starting point is 00:47:39 really traumatic, that would come through exactly as I saw it. I'd have a recurring dream of a, dream of like a quasi, you know, homeless, deranged drug addict with a pink and green striped polo shirt, pinkish purple and green shirt. And then coming up and attacking me and I had the dream like dozens of times. And then six months later, I'm at a convenience store with some friends, even have a car yet. And we were coming in.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And this crazy guy on drugs came out and pulled out a knife and I would have killed me. But soon as I saw him, I knew what to do because I'd have the dream. I was like, oh, my God, that's the guy coming. So for whatever reason, interdimensionally, I was giving that information. And then right before they tried to kill Trump and Butler, and I came on there and talked about this. I kept having these dreams of people sewing explosives into a reporter's purse that she wouldn't know getting on Air Force One, service to air missiles, shooting down Trump, being brought in. They would blame Iran through Mexico to the U.S. months later, that came out in that cover store. They were going to blame Iran for killing Trump.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And I was having this. And I was just having this recurring dream. 10, 15 times, but it was so complex. It was all these were pieces. I would wake up, wouldn't remember it all. But I knew, oh, this is one of these dreams where you wake up with like a headache. I don't normally have a wake up with a headache. These things are like, some of them sweating.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Sometimes I would throw up. I've had dreams of the tower smoking and on fire. That was the last little piece why I said that. But I can already see the pre-programming in the real world. And I had a recurring dream about that. And so, yeah, there's Alex Jones. And that's Tim Poole talking to Congressman, by the way. Congressman Eric Burleson, and as he says, you know, through the hearings and then kind of talking to David Grush and kind of digging down a little bit on like what could these UFOs be from?
Starting point is 00:49:20 And even, you know, you have Ross Colthart coming out now literally yesterday. I don't trust Ross Cole. I don't either. I don't either. I don't either. But he is now saying this thing about the TikTok UFO and all this stuff was controlled by psionic abilities of people that we have in. the government program. I don't think this is a government thing.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And it's just odd to me that the people that are able to see these interdimensional things are people that have experiences with paranormal. It's just like Alex Jones was just talking about the pink and green. You said a pink cram. Yeah, I know. I think there's a lot of interrelated things. You know, I had a dream about my friend Becky. I'm not going to say her last name down the street, that she was going to be
Starting point is 00:50:07 well, there was this pedophile that came in this old, old car and pulled up to her car, and I dreamed about it before it happened. And I actually had to go to the police station and give him a description of my dream of this person. And it was the same person that tried to molest my friend. Like, you know, and when he said he has had dreams about things being blown up and stuff, you know, I think that you either have that. in your mental state or you don't or you're able to see it and you're not. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You know, I don't research me that. But also, you have to remember that Alex Jones, no matter what people want to say about it. He is predicted a lot of stuff. Yeah, he's predicted so much shit. He predicted 9-11 before it happened. Yeah. And I just think some people just have that, you know, I don't know if you open yourself up to it. I don't know what it is, but you either have it or you don't.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yeah. And if you don't. I will say, like, I did have a dream. And it was so weird. I've had some very, like, lucid sort of dreams before. But when I first started CE5, probably, like, three months after, I had this one dream, and it just has always stood out to me. I was basically, it felt very real.
Starting point is 00:51:29 But I was in, like, an underground, it seemed like almost a cave-like area. It was dark. It was damp. It was like rocks on the walls. And there was maybe four to six tall. And this sounds insane. I realize it was a dream. But in light of what I was doing,
Starting point is 00:51:54 and I've even talked to researchers that are interested in this dream too. So I don't know that it's just a dream. But I saw four to six, like six to ten foot. tall reptilian-looking beings. The one I remember talking, like the leader that was talking to me was a bluish green color. And I remember the rest of them were like a brown-green, kind of like a typical like reptile color. But I just remember like their energy was very scary and kind of just. domineering.
Starting point is 00:52:38 They had, I thought it looked like goatees, but it was almost like scales instead of hair. It was like you could see they had a very square jaw. They had like where a goatee would be. It was like scales. They were tall. I remember them they didn't have like a top on. They were wearing almost skirts, but they all same masculine. But they were wearing like a long skirt, no top.
Starting point is 00:53:04 and I just remember the energy being like I was in trouble, like I was being scolded for doing something. So I was kind of a weird dream because I haven't had anything like that other than that one dream. And so that one has stood out to me too, other than my childhood dreams. Yeah, and I still have the dreams to this day. And Chad can tell you he is well aware of when I'm having these dreams because I end up sometimes when there aren't that bad dreams,
Starting point is 00:53:36 I'll end up fighting these things in my sleep. And instead of fighting these things, I'm actually biting Chad. Yeah. That reminds me. I do have to say my husband will stay at times. I have night tears and he'll wake up and I am like screaming in my sleep. Like no, no, no. And my mom was in a hotel that was very haunted. I don't want to share all their stories.
Starting point is 00:54:00 But she had woke up at some point. And my dad and sister were scared because she was saying, like, Jesus, like, I know you're here. You need to protect us. And they were in this haunted hotel. They found out afterwards. My dad didn't tell her before. But she found it after. It was a very haunted hotel.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And she had had these dreams. And my sister and dad said they were scared because in her sleep, she had woken up. And she was, like, yelling in her sleep. Like, Jesus protect us. Jesus come down. and something happened. But. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Brittany, can I ask you what is your kind of spiritual beliefs? Like what do you believe spiritually? So I was raised. My family's Catholic. I was raised pretty Catholic. But we didn't go to church like every week or anything. Now that my parents are a little older, they had being pretty young. But now they're older, like my sister has been raised in Catholic high school and stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:58 they're much more religious. I would say for me, as like an adult, I got more into Christianity. I kind of like, I consider myself a spiritual Christian. I believe Jesus is the Messiah. I definitely believe in Jesus. And I teach that to my kids. I like to go to church. I like worship music.
Starting point is 00:55:27 all of that. But I also think we don't know everything. And I think we're supposed to have a relationship with Jesus ourselves. I don't think organized religion is something we're supposed to be doing. So I'm much more spiritual than religious, but I do believe in Jesus, like a Christian-based spirituality. Yeah. I'm right there with you. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And so before we get in this CE5 video, Brittany, can you tell me, like, we, we have a Christian-based spirituality. you kind of ask you earlier, but like, can you summon these things? Do you feel like now? Like the lights? I think so. I think I can. And so how do you, how do you go about that process? Like when you go outside, you don't see anything. And then how do you go about that if you don't mind sharing? Yeah. So the way I started is I had kind of watched like the Stephen Greer documentary. And I just had a feeling like if he can do this, I can do this. So I looked at what he was doing. And the first time I went out, I did that. I kind of used, I got his app.
Starting point is 00:56:33 So I used like the crop circle tones, the Pugia table ceremony. I used like his guided meditation. This is where you're imagining these crop circle areas, these places, your imagines. Yes, yes. So basically what you do is in the meditation. I will visualize Earth first or sorry, I'll visualize like the Milky Way galaxy first. And then I kind of zoom in to Earth as the third planet from the sun. And then I'll zoom in to North America.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I'll zoom in. I'll picture things like about the United States. Then I'll zoom in to like the West Coast. I'll picture like the Golden Gate Bridge or something. in California. And then I zoom in to like the northern Sierra Mountains. I'll look at Reno, like the lights, the biggest little city, like Tahoe. And I kind of zoom in until I'm in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:57:43 So I get on that location. And I also, I use frequencies. So I started with the Stephen Greer. he uses like the crop circle tones. I use those. I use his Pugia ceremony. And then I started doing like different sound frequencies. I started trying 1.6 GHZ because I heard that from like the Skywalker Ranch
Starting point is 00:58:14 episodes. Sorry, I'm running over us. Oh, you're good. Yeah. So you're talking about, are you talking about like an actual sound frequency that you're actually utilizing for? Like the Schumann residence kind of thing. So like I found out on Skywalker Ranch, like they get a lot of things that'll show up when they have like 1.6 GHC playing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:40 So I started playing that frequency and things would show up. So I use that. I use the Schumann residency like the Earth's heartbeat. Any binaural beats I've used. What I find works best for me is I really try to focus on my own energy and kind of, I don't know how to describe it. I kind of just imagine it as light almost. And I try to picture it like building and then sending that, almost, projecting that out to the cosmos or to whoever is there. And just trying to get them not so much focusing on the thought, but the feeling.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Like really trying to feel, what does love feel like? What does like this good feeling feel like? And then projecting that out to them and inviting them to join us here. I've asked a lot of times I'll say humanity really needs your help. We need peace. We need love. and that seems to work. When you first do this, Brittany,
Starting point is 00:59:58 and when you're doing, like, all this going through, all these phases or whatever, how do you know when they are coming? Or how do you feel when they're coming? Do you know? I get, yeah, I get, like, it's like an emotional feeling.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I'll get, sometimes I don't feel anything, but then sometimes I'll be sitting out there and you'll see, like, these lights start to go across. And I will get, like, this overwhelming, like a tingling,
Starting point is 01:00:23 just very warm, like a loving feeling. Like I'm in this light or like something. Just like I will get an overwhelming positive feeling. And it is usually a positive. Almost a way I've almost been in tears sometimes. Like just from the connection. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Yeah. Sherry feels a lot of the same stuff, especially about a river for sure. I want to play this clip. I mean, it's we're going to break in and out. But this is essentially what CE5 is. And this is Stephen Greer explaining on Gaia.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Let's listen. For over 40 years, one man has championed the cause of developing peaceful relationships with extraterrestrial intelligences that have been visiting planet Earth for decades, if not millennia. Through his unrelenting efforts, Dr. Stephen Greer is a significant force, bearing pressure upon the government to disclose classified, secret, extraterrestrial information kept hidden within the military industrial complex. I'm Billy Carson.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Dr. Greer, welcome to disclosure. Thank you. I'm very happy to meet you. Yes, same here. Your whole journey began in 1973 when you had a near-death experience. Can you tell us about that? In the spring of 1973, I got very sick. And I had this experience where I left my body in a very clear way, went out into space, and had sort of a contact, not with extraterrestrials, but was two points of consciousness.
Starting point is 01:01:55 that were divine avatar type means. And it was beautiful. And towards the end of it, in this state of consciousness, I was told I could either go with them or come back to Earth. And I said, I had the presence of mine to say, thy will be done. What do you want me to do? I mean, I'm 17, totally uneducated about any of these issues.
Starting point is 01:02:20 And they said, you should go back. You know, a few months later, I go off to college. And in 1973, in October, I'm up in the mountains of North Carolina meditating. And just before sunset, and I'm up at 5,000 feet. And I see this right before I sit to meditate. I look over towards the southwest, and there's a seamless metallic disk. And it's the same disc I had seen when I was eight or nine. I'd seen one of these E.T. Kraft, when I was a very young boy, with my twin sister.
Starting point is 01:02:55 some other people in my neighborhood in Charlotte, North Carolina, I went, oh, well, they're back. I didn't think anything more about it. And I sit to meditate, and I have this profound deep meditation that lasted a very long time, because by the time I ended it, it was pitch black, and the Milky Way was above my head, gorgeous. And at the end of it, I stood up, and a beautiful thought that was so felt like it was telepathically sent to me. And it was sounds very much. strange said, behold, what a beautiful universe God is made. Wow. And with that, I went right back into that state that I was in when I had died six
Starting point is 01:03:37 months earlier in March of 73. And I was just standing there, and below the crest of this mountain, there was a glow. And I went, I don't know what that is. And then I was aware that there was this being. but I thought it was a deer standing up on its legs. And it was a E.T. Beautiful almond eyes and came over and touched my jacket. I had a ski jacket on.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It was very cold. Touched me on my right shoulder physically. And it was 3D and sort of fully materialized, dematerialized, rematerialized. Very similar to what Colonel Corso had happened at White Sands back in the 50s. Wow. And touched me, and with that, I vanished. And I was on a craft for about, I found out later about the three or four hours. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And it was during that experience that we experimented with and created the CE5 contact protocols. Although I didn't call it that then. And it was using consciousness and remote viewing and what I call coherent thought sequencing, where you guide them into where you're located with a laser-like intent. heart and mind together, we'll get into this. And that is really how the CE5 contact protocols got started. Wow. And I want to pause for just one second because for those that if you're hearing Dr. Stephen
Starting point is 01:05:10 Greer's story and you may be thinking to yourself, this guy's crazy. Number one, he's not crazy. And number two, when he talks about remote viewing, we've done episodes on remote viewing. We know for sure that there are. are now declassified programs about remote viewing. We understand that. We understand that there were programs that our intelligence agencies have had and probably still do have.
Starting point is 01:05:34 They've had them since the 50s, if not earlier, to where they would bring people in. And even as the government described it, there were people that were more apt to be able to remote view without having to learn the protocols necessarily to remote view. And what remote viewing essentially is, is that you bring someone in or they, themselves are trying to envision something that is actually there or going on in real life. So say, for example, the U.S. government wants to bring a remote viewer in for their benefit, whether it's for national security or to try to gain intel from a foreign adversary. You will bring this person in.
Starting point is 01:06:14 You will explain to them the scenario, hey, this is over Russia. This is maybe in this specific area. I need you to tell me what is in this area. they would do these experiments all the time with these people. And when they would set up these particular things to where there's no way these people could know what they were actually setting up in this place and this city and this building, these people were able to actually remote view what was in that building at that time in maybe a specific box or whatever the government had set up. These people were able to actually view what was going on. And so that is remote viewing.
Starting point is 01:06:47 We still likely have that going on today. So I think there is absolutely a connection to some degree from remote viewing to this paranormal slash orb interdimensional thing. I just think that you have to be able to figure out how to open your mind to get into that realm. Just like you would, listen, I think you have to also go into an interdimensional realm to be able to view something remotely that you are not physically there to see. I want to ask Brittany a question. Sorry. I was going to say, I have. tried. Like I've been on um kind of big and like UFOX and stuff and I have talked to a few different people who I've tried to talk to me about, um, remote viewing and such. And I've tried,
Starting point is 01:07:35 um, I have read like Robert Monroe's journey out of the body. And I'm really working at like trying to learn astral projection and remote viewing. But so far, they're very hard. I have had. Yes, it is. No success. Me either. But let me ask you, have you ever felt like an outer body experience, especially in your dreams? Almost, Sherry. I did the very first time.
Starting point is 01:08:01 So I had someone on X and they guided me to Robert Monroe's gateway tapes, the hemisink. The very first time I put on a hemisink tape, I was doing the meditation and I almost had an out-of-body experience. I felt the pulling, I felt the vibrations. But it's like once I recognized that, I got so excited. I knocked myself out of it. So I've never been able to successfully do like any out of body or anything like that. I really want to, though. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Let me ask you one other question. Have you ever felt like tonight, for example, when we were getting ready to do this podcast tonight, have you ever experienced it? And maybe it's just my craziness. I don't think I'm crazy though, but you feel something whisk around you or you feel like a gentle touch or whatever. Like yes, like almost like a cyclone of energy. I can find kind of feel like hands around me like almost like a tornado. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Well, the remote viewing thing for those that want to know kind of the scientific side of it, you know, one of the things the government did was, you know, they said, look, your imagination is going to try to take over. and that is what you cannot allow to happen because when your imagination takes over, that's not the point. The point is that you're going to have flashes of things. And when you have those flashes of things, I want you to write them down. And as you write down these flashes of things,
Starting point is 01:09:28 they may not be scenes or objects or physical or, I guess even storylines or scenarios. They may be, maybe you see water, write it down. Maybe you see metal. Maybe you see a tire. Maybe you see rubber. Maybe you see the earth.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Maybe you see a signal. Maybe you see any of these things. I want you to continue to write these things down. And as you write all these things down, as you're going through this kind of meditative state, this is how the government kind of gets their remote viewers to hone in on what they're wanting them to hone in on. They have in their mind already the task. But you don't want to think about a task. You know the task subconsciously.
Starting point is 01:10:04 But we don't want you to think about imagining the task. We want you to know the task, but we want you to start going into this meditative state. And we want you to tell us all the things you're seeing. Not the scenes, not the, not any of that stuff. We want you to tell us the physical nature of things you're seeing. So, like, tell us the substances. And as these substances are starting to be written down. And as you can start kind of compiling, maybe there's 15 or 30 substances you're putting together.
Starting point is 01:10:31 It's weird how some of these agents were like, yeah, okay, so we put all this shit together. And now we have a scene. Now we have a scene. Yeah, I've played around with it for like five minutes. It did not work for me. five minutes. I drew a snowman. And I will say that I've looked in and like growing up I was in gate like I grew up in
Starting point is 01:10:54 California. I didn't move to Nevada until I was like 12 or so. But I was in the California Gate program in the 90s. I did that. I remember them like playing tones in my ears and stuff. So I have like different experiences with it. But then I'm like, I don't know. I don't trust myself either.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Like I feel like that's where I'm like I'll try to think of something. But then I'm like thinking about it too hard. I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. I'm right there with you. No, you're right. So what Stephen Greer said by the way so far now, Stephen Greer, where he's talking about this experience is near Asheville, North Carolina,
Starting point is 01:11:30 which is near where I grew up, 5,000 feet. He had this experience where he said this thing physically touched him. Right. And then after that point, he was what he believes gone for three to four hours. So was this an abduction? experience or not maybe, but either way, we've had a lot of people have abduction experiences in the past. I mean, there have been credible abduction experiences with people like Betty and Barney Hill.
Starting point is 01:11:53 There's been various others. The guy from, oh, my God, I'm literally drawing a blank, but fire in the sky. It's by Betty Hill's niece, I think Kathleen, something. I think it's called Alien Abduction Files, and it's by Kathleen. Kathleen something. She's Betty Hill's niece. And it's a study on a woman named Denise Stoner. And she had a lot of abduction experiences.
Starting point is 01:12:24 So I've been listening to that book. And it's been very interesting. Yeah. And Betty and Barney Hill was a very unique experience. I mean, this is just one of the experiences, but this is one of the earlier experiences we have on record. And when they brought Betty and Barney Hill into a, the guy that basically is a hypnotizer,
Starting point is 01:12:42 he hypnotizes them both. They explain very exact similar situations. This is one of the best known hypnotizers at the time. And I actually do believe in hypnotization. I think it helps people with a lot of stuff, whether it be quitting smoking or drugs or whatever. People do have that ability as well. But when they brought Betty and Barney Hill in,
Starting point is 01:13:01 they had the exact same stories. They went through the exact same timelines. And a lot of the stuff they actually talked about that they could not remember in person when you would actually ask them when they went into this hypnidimidation, I'm saying that wrong. When they went into this, they both told the same stories about what they experienced. Very, very similar and eerie experiences.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And this is not just, you know, Betty and Barney Hill. I mean, you think fire in the sky with, I can't remember his name. Oh, oh gosh. Walton. Yeah. Very fat. Travis. Travis.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Travis Walton. And there's been so many others. Chris Bloodsoe. You know, you have him out there that's talking a lot about it now. But even when you think about David Grush, where he's talking about, look, we do have intel that these things are interdimensional. I do think for sure, like, and then as we bring James on this week and we talk about the spiritual biblical side of this, you have to understand, like, for so long, people always discredited the Bible and God and Jesus just based on the fact that you could not see them. You could not prove it. They're like, well, you can't see God.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I mean, you're praying to nothing. You're praying into the sky. You're praying to thin air. And so with all this talk about heaven and this realm of like when you die, you go to some place that's magnificent and lovely and amazing. I think really, in my opinion, all this kind of does, although if the Bible is 100% true and Jesus and God and the way exactly they want you to live and how to worship and all this things, if that is true, yeah, I can see why Christians, especially start Christians
Starting point is 01:14:35 that are saying, look, do not believe in anything outside the Bible. But you have to understand, there are a lot of stories in the Bible. that sound like that a lot of these people, I mean, big time names in the Bible had similar experiences. Well, you think about prophets. Yeah, profits. You think about profits. Like, I think in a way, I'm not trying to say that I'm a prophet, but in a way that I am getting information that not normal people are getting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:00 And I think prophets in the Bible did. I think that's why there are certain people throughout history that do have, you know, like, for example, you and then someone that has basically no experiences. and then say someone that has these crazy massive experiences. You know, in the Bible times, there were people, I think, that God bestowed on them the ability. Because if you think about it, God gives us the ability to breathe, to live, to do all the things that we do. He was the one that created us. But he's also going to give people certain powers or abilities that he doesn't give other people for whatever reason it is. I mean, there's a reason why people are able to sing and do amazing things like that.
Starting point is 01:15:37 there's a reason why people are better at going on a scene of a car accident where five people are dead and they're out there just in blood covered whatever and they're trying to help them. But God gives everyone an ability. And I think that if you go back through biblical terms where he did give some of these prophets the ability to see the future, to see what God really wanted to interact with these things, that's where I think that depending on how you use your ability, whether or not, like say, for example, you have this ability to communicate with something interdimentially. I think what God is calling on you to do if you do have that ability is to make sure that you're doing it for good, right? And whatever that is, like you may experience things in that realm that are not good. You may experience an evil thing. It can be scary feeling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:22 It can be. So I do have to say, so my family and my immediate family, my mom would say, and they're very Catholic, my sister goes to. in all Catholic high school. She actually just had a conversation with me like a week ago. Can you be sure? Like, and she was looking at me. She's like, I think you're fighting something still. And she's like, look in the mirror.
Starting point is 01:16:50 She had me look in the mirror next to her. And she's like, let me and look at you. And she's like, there's something there. Like, you're still fighting something. Yeah, they say that to me too. Oh, yeah. We all say that, Sherry. And I will say, like, as an adolescence,
Starting point is 01:17:04 I had a dark, a dark road. I should have had the easiest life. I was born to young parents. They were 18, but they did get married. They put themselves through college. And I never was without. I had a great family. Like my parents, my dad ended up being on Forbes top 40 under 40 when I was in high school.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I know a little bit about your dad. I know the secret, but we won't say. Go ahead. Yeah. My dad is very successful in the business and finance world. And he did that having me at 18 right out of high school. And there was always just, I don't know something there. And I had some of that ME too, like that giftedness.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And that's what my mom was kind of saying. She's like, maybe what you're connecting to is dark. Like she looked at me and she's like, I see something like you're fighting something. and I will say I've had a lot of adversity in my life. I shouldn't have had. I should have had like life handed to me on a silver platter and it's like I shoved that back and said, nope, I'll take the hard path. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I turned that down and made it hard for myself. It didn't have to be hard. But I had a lot of negative, very negative and dark experiences. I had when I was 18 before I got married, my ex killed himself in front of me. So I've had like some very dark experiences, and I feel like there's some dark spirit attachments to me still. I also had a friend in high school. Like she was into Wiccan kind of thing. I remember doing some spells and stuff with her.
Starting point is 01:19:00 and even getting like um sorry yeah you're you're literally saying sherry stuff yeah yeah like i remember we did a money spell and it was like you couldn't be greedy you couldn't ask to get like a million dollars like that wouldn't work but you had to ask for like an amount you could get and literally the next day i got dropped off at school and 20 dollars the amount i asked for is laying in front of me so i've done like some dark stuff. I've kind of always just been interested in the occult, the spiritual realm, and kind of always had that connection, whether it's good or bad, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:39 And like you said, you know, I think you said you were an Aquarius and I'm a python. And I think that, you know, you can't take that for granted because there's a reason why people have birth signs. Well, yeah. Here's the reason, by the way, because if you go back to Enoch or you go back to to the Bible. I mean, there's so much
Starting point is 01:19:59 in our ancient history that relies so heavily on our signs. And it's not our signs necessarily because of like the horoscope. Because I think a lot
Starting point is 01:20:08 of the horoscope is a bunch of bullshit. But what I will say is there's something very, very significant about the signs in the sky,
Starting point is 01:20:16 right? And that, you know, the age of the times. Yeah, we're in the age of Pisces, which I am a Pisces and we're going to Ares.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah, we're going to Ares and most people think that... And I thought we were going into a Or maybe we are, but either way. Or maybe it's Aquarius. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:20:32 It's Aquarius. Yeah. So as we go into Aquarius, though, they're saying that that will be the fourth turning, that that's likely going to be the recycling. That's what most people believe. This is going to be the fourth turn, right? Right. The fourth industrial revolution.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And it's going to be massive things that happen as we go into this new age. And we're on the cusp of that age now. But that stuff does matter because if you go back to ancient Egyptians or, I mean, any of the ancient times, they relied so heavily on the age of the, or sorry, not the, the age of space signs, right? And they relied so heavily on space itself and the signs on the sky. And there was a reason for that. Yeah, it was like their calendar.
Starting point is 01:21:14 It was the way they knew how things were going to. And we live. And we live from the calendar today. And they also knew like when likely the next recycling was going to happen. It's usually ever 12 to 14,000 years. I'm saying I know there's something about what Atlantis, Atlanteans. I've heard about being like blood type O or something. I saw that.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Anyway, my grandma is O negative. I am the only, or she might be O positive. I have RH negative blood. I'm A negative, but I'm like the only one in my entire family. That's rare. Maybe my grandma, she might be O negative. I don't remember. But other than that, me and one of my sons is negative,
Starting point is 01:22:02 everyone else is positive. So that's another, like, weird little thing I have. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I saw something on Facebook the other day. I know this is getting off topic, but it was like, what planet are you from, you know, based on your blood type or whatever? And if it's O negative and O plus, you're Poseidon or I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:22:24 It was, but I know. I know I'm negative, which I've heard RH negative has some, like, spiritual. It's like very rare. It's like less than 10% are negative. I think it's nephlum, nephlum. Well, O blood, but the crazy thing about the O blood is you can give to A and B blood. Yeah, I'm O in the house. Anyways.
Starting point is 01:22:47 All right, let's listen to a little more, Stephen Greer. We'll get back on this topic in just a second. Here you go. It was fascinating. And that really began my whole experience within six months of near-death experience, exploring consciousness. And then from there, sort of creating the CE5 contact protocols where humans make contact with these civilizations directly. And it was all because of this sort of amazing consciousness exploration that happened. Can you describe these beings in exactly what you learned?
Starting point is 01:23:20 Well, it was interesting because everyone has all these caricatures of these beans. They didn't fit any of the caricatures. And in fact, there were different types of beans. So there were one group that were maybe 39 inches tall. I mean, very like less than four feet, a little over three feet. No hair. The other ones were very tall and sort of low. luminous. There was a group that had very triangular kind of heads like a praying mantis.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Later, I found out that these are master healers in the cosmos from a planet where they're very renowned for healing. They have specializations of capabilities, but very much work together. It's very much opposite of what the UFO lore is in mythology. But most of the experience was not linear. It was you're sort of dematerialized out in space. And what was interesting
Starting point is 01:24:24 if you're sitting in this craft you think, well there are walls like in this building. No, you're looking as if you're floating in a bubble that's translucent. So it's kind of force-boot? I think it has to do with extremely advanced
Starting point is 01:24:38 fiber optic type systems in the shell of the craft. So you can be out there and it looks exactly like you're just floating freely, but you're not. You're actually in a structure, an environmentally controlled structure.
Starting point is 01:24:51 That's incredible. Yeah. Most of the time, be honest with you, was spent me teaching them what it was like for a boy, a young man of 18 to experience cosmic consciousness on Earth and how that could be used these states of consciousness to communicate in the future. And I knew it would be something for the future,
Starting point is 01:25:13 but at that time I didn't know. I had no real sense of the timeline of when I would start the projects that we run now. So for these beings, this is more like an exploratory consciousness experiment. Would you say that? We were co-creating these protocols for future use, very specifically. I knew it was for future use. Can you describe the process of the co-creation? Yeah, I mean, and the co-creation part was me meditating and them seeing me meditate
Starting point is 01:25:42 and experiencing that near-death-type level of clarity in samadhi consciousness, cosmic consciousness, and then how that could be used to actuate remote viewing. It's called now, but seeing distant places, seeing future, but also then connecting to the ET systems and guiding them in. And what I learned is that they have,
Starting point is 01:26:07 and we'll get into this more, they have technologies that interface with the kind of, consciousness field and directed thought, not random thought, but I call coherent thought, as clearly as we pick up a radio frequency from our cell phone or TV station. So those civilizations that are interstellar, they have to, by going faster in the speed of light, they've had to explore transdimensional physics, including faster and speed of light communications. All right, I want to stop here for a second because one thing I agree with Stephen Greer on is that I think that we can be caught up or be brought into another dimension while we are here on Earth. And let me tell you why I believe he's a little bit wrong.
Starting point is 01:26:56 So Stephen Greer always talks about civilizations, right? We're always communicating with these civilizations. But in the Bible, third heaven, right? 2 Corinthians 12, 2 through 4, if you guys want to get your Bible out, 2 Corinthians. 12, 2 through 4 says, I know a man in Christ who 14 years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body, I do not know. God knows. And I know that this man, whether in the body or apart from the body, I do not know. But God knows, was caught up to paradise and heard inexpecible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
Starting point is 01:27:35 So the first heaven, the sky, the atmosphere where birds fly, right? This is traditionally, Paul describes being caught up in the third heaven, which suggests that there are at least three heavens or realms called heavens. The second heaven is the cosmos, outer space, the stars and planets. The third heaven is the spiritual dwelling of God, sometimes equated to paradise. And the use of Caught Up, where he talks about Caught Up, is the same word used for rapture. also suggests they transition into another reality or a realm beyond normal space time, right? Ephesion 612 talks about, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
Starting point is 01:28:13 against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness and high places. And so some translations say, heavenly realms. This verse indicates that spiritual beings both good and evil operate in unseen realms above or outside of our physical world. And then Jacob's ladder, Genesis 2812, says, And he dreamed and behold a ladder set up on the earth. And the top of it reached to heaven. And behold, the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
Starting point is 01:28:43 So this vision kind of suggests a kind of connection or portal between the earthly and heavenly realms, an interdimensional ladder per se or source through which beings move in this ladder. So is this kind of pointing in the Bible to this interdimensional realm? Well, let me go to Brittany real quick. And I want to ask you because earlier in our interview with you, you said, you know, you might not be the best Christian. You don't go to church every Sunday, but you're very spiritual. And I think that matters a lot because I feel the same way. I don't go to temple.
Starting point is 01:29:16 I don't go to church, but I feel extremely spiritual. And that's how I feel. And I think in my heart, Jesus tells us not to follow. a religion. He says we don't need a religion. We don't need to go through a middle man to get to him. And that's how I feel. My relationship with God and with Jesus, I feel very strong in. And I don't feel that I need to pick a religion or I need to study the Bible or do anything to have that. And I think that's the mistake. I think a lot of organized religion we have today was put in place as sort of a government before there was government to kind of control people.
Starting point is 01:30:11 And I don't think that's the point. I think the point is what's it in your heart. I believe in Jesus in my heart. But I don't think I need to follow necessarily these commandments or I need to be at church every Sunday. I think it's more your connection with spirituality, your connection with Jesus. And that's what I've always believed. I do like to go to church sometimes and I feel Jesus there and I enjoy that. But I don't think it's something you need.
Starting point is 01:30:44 I think that something is coming and that's what's come to me through kind of these experiences is that I don't know what's going to happen, but I feel there is something coming. I should have had a very easy life. I feel I've kind of taken the harder way to prepare me for something that's going to happen in the future that I would not be able to handle had I not kind of been through these experiences. I think all of us are going through things to make us tougher and to make us stronger because I think something is coming. I agree. All I know is I did not believe in any of this.
Starting point is 01:31:29 And the biggest message that was coming through to me is that I need to get this through to people. Like, something is coming. And it was just impressioned on me that I'm a trustworthy person. People trust me. I don't know. I just have a trustworthy heart. It was just like put on me. Like, if I start preaching this, people will listen to me.
Starting point is 01:31:54 They'll believe me. And it's my goal just to awaken as many people as possible. And that's why you tell people like, I don't have, I'm not trying to make money on this. I'm not trying to sell anything. I'm not trying to do anything. I'm just trying to get people to realize there's something else going on. And there is something happening out there. You can believe me or not.
Starting point is 01:32:18 No, I agree. And I agree too. And thankfully, we all three agree. Yeah, I don't see how, I mean, unless people just don't, don't, try to experience these things, they're not going to understand. I get that, right? I 100% understand that. But there's also something massively big behind the scenes that we don't realize.
Starting point is 01:32:35 And I'm not talking about from a Q&on perspective. I'm literally talking about from a religion. No, not even a religion perspective. It's just, I just think that it is the age of awakening. And I think that how some people are awakening today, I think is going to be much more prevalent than others. And I also think that's why you look at a trend. Trump thing and Epstein stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:57 And there's just so much craziness going on right now that people are starting to just explode mentally in some ways. And because they realize and they see the writing on the wall. They know that like, look, we've been prepared for this. We know. Can I ask you guys? Sorry, I don't interrupt. How do you guys feel about the Epstein and Trump thing?
Starting point is 01:33:18 Because I know I felt a little betrayed. Yeah. Well, we did. Well, we do too. I mean, and we're actually likely maybe our next episode, we're going to break a of that stuff down. Which we did do Epstein. We just did it. And, you know, I told everyone on that podcast that Chad did take his Trump bracelet off and give it to the cat. But I heard that. Well, the cat's doing a great job at using it as a toy. But no, so I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 01:33:43 we, the next episode that we talk about is it's going to be kind of frustration and just kind of breaking down, especially after Trump's doubled down and the teams doubled down. you know, what is this? What does this mean? And I think what it means, I think there's actually a silver lining to all of this, right? I think that how we have been tribalized so heavily over the past eight to 10 to 15 to 20 years. And especially the past probably 10 years, we've been tribalized where you're either this or you're that. If you're this, you're evil.
Starting point is 01:34:16 If you're that you're evil. And I hope that by what is going on right now, especially considering if you think about Trump and, you know, kind of how he ran the table with this last election. I mean, he won all of the swing states. He not only does the Republicans have the House, but they have the Senate. They have everything. I mean, the Republicans have everything they possibly want. And yet, somehow you figure out a way to completely divide your base in the worst way possible.
Starting point is 01:34:46 And I'm not saying necessarily you decided to do that. But if I was Trump's right-hand man right now, if I was if I was his main advisor, and I would have never let Trump ever release the text that he's been released in the past three days. I would say Trump, I don't give a shit what you're saying. I will resign right now, but you're not releasing that text under me. You're not going to double down and basically spit in the face of your people, your loyal supporters that said, we're electing you and your cabinet and everybody you pick on transparency and on you finally, finally putting the people to justice.
Starting point is 01:35:20 And if you're going to tell me that you're going to basically say, look, I don't give a shit, what you people say, this is the way it is. Just get over it. Yeah, just get over it. No, there's no way in a million years I would ever let Trump ever release a tweet like that. Yeah, I hated when he did the whole like shut up. Like, why are you asking about Epstein right now? He's like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:35:40 No, you can't do that. And especially. Yeah, and it's not going to go away. It's only going to get bigger. No, but I was going to say something. Nathan texted me earlier, Nathan from Clear. And he said, call me back when you get home from worship services. Be in Sunday.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I assume that that is where you are. A.k.a. meaning, definitely he knows we're not at worship services, which is bad. But I do want to... We should all be there, right? Maybe, I guess. Or not. I do want to emphasize this. Maybe that's where we should be.
Starting point is 01:36:10 The Bible acknowledges more than one heaven, right? And at least three. It presents this as real, not, you know, like real distinct realms, not just poetic language. And the reason I want to make. this clear is because when we do bring James on, because he's going to listen to this episode and he's going to listen to everything we're talking about. So he's going to have things that he's going to say from a biblical perspective. And I'm glad we're actually talking about the biblical side a little bit to this in the spiritual side. I know. And I already know what he's going to say.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Well, it's fine. But I'm glad we kind of are giving him a little bit of fuel for this. I call the little lightballs that come into the yard, like the ones that come down close. I do call them angels or like my star family. They do seem to be more like beings almost than like an object. Well, let me ask you this question real quick. When you first see all these, do you see a lot of little ones at first and then you see the big ones? Because that's what we experience. No.
Starting point is 01:37:11 So I'll just be out there and I'll be, I'll have my camera, I'll do my meditation. And then there's been a few times where these balls. Balls of like they look like a fireball, like maybe soccer ball size, and it'll come down. It'll be like, I thought one was going to take off my head. It was like, it was probably roof level. It just seemed closer, but they'll be within like five to ten feet. And they go so fast. It'll be like a blue or a white light and it's like a ball of fire.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Yeah. No, I, that's it is probably soccer ball size we see as well, actually. Yeah, I just think that the bright shining and the. lights. It's hard to even see the shape. Yeah. It is. sometimes, yeah. They're very bright. I do want to point out this. Ross Colthart on 2027.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Everybody's telling me we're on borrowed time. I just want to play this quick clip and we'll talk about it in just a second. But this was one of Ross Colthart's thing. Now listen, they got Ross Colthurt all over News Nation. News Nation is blowing up really because of Ross Colthart. And I know, Brittany, you said you don't really trust this guy. I don't either, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:38:17 But I do want to play what Ross Colthard said on a recent clip, listen. Is something going to happen in 2027, and I don't know what it is. Okay. I've also heard 2034, and I've also heard other dates, you know, much later. But it depends who you talk to. Some people say it's a pole reversal. Some people say it's an asteroid hitting the planet.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Some people say it's AI reaching quantum, and then all of a sudden we lose the capacity to have control of our own computer systems. I have no idea. What I am aware of is that everybody's telling me we're on borrowed time. And I cannot begin to emphasize how serious a look I get when I say to people who are confiding in me, what's the time scale on this? And they're urging me to be urgent.
Starting point is 01:39:16 They're saying to me, people need the right to know this. They have a right to know this. And I'm going, well, what are we talking about? And I feel like shaking these people and saying, for God's sake, just bloody tell me. And they are all constrained by their national security oaths. They want the public to know this. So, and to me, like Ross Coulthor is basically saying that, you know, he has sources from the government that are telling them,
Starting point is 01:39:42 we're on borrowed time. And you better somehow prepare your people, even though you don't know what that. the hell we're talking about. But either way, I think it goes back to the realm of guys, just be ready for anything, right? We could go out of our house tomorrow, get in our car, go to the grocery store, and die in a car accident. And so, so are you good and ready with what's to come after you die in that car accident? That's the question you have to ask yourself.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Regardless of what Ross Korthart has to say, or regardless of a meteor hitting or whatever, We're thinking of times of maybe 2027, but what if it isn't? What if it's 50 years? Who gives a damn? Literally a meteor for you could mean the same thing as you going to the grocery store tomorrow and getting hit by a semi-truck and dying. That is your meteor. That is your pole reversal.
Starting point is 01:40:33 That is your alien invasion. That is your whatever your doomsday scenario is. That is it. And it could happen literally tonight. You could fall down the steps and break your neck. You could literally go to the grocery store tomorrow and get hit by a, a freaking semi-truck. And all we're always thinking about is,
Starting point is 01:40:49 oh, shit, when is a meteor going to hit? When is the aliens going to invade? When is this going to happen? When is there going to be totalitarian dictatorship in our country to where they start executing white people or black people or Mexicans or whatever? Your time is now to prepare. It is not, it is not 2027, it is not you have endless life. I can't even tell you how many times and how many freaking messages,
Starting point is 01:41:13 Facebook posts, whoever are people I've grown up with that have died 10 years ago, 15 years ago. I was thinking about this today. I was like, damn, I'm 40 years old now. And I remember. I have lost so many friends. Oh, I do too. I was saying that the other day.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Most of my friends are dead. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, and you don't know when your time is, which is why I say that if you have the opportunity to listen to this podcast right now, get right with whatever it is that you need to get right with. And I'm not saying I'm the purveyor of truth.
Starting point is 01:41:45 and I'm not Joel Osteen or whoever. But what I am saying is, is that just understand if anything you get from this is that there is definitely something beyond our physical world. And so if you've ever struggled with the possibility of God or Jesus or another realm or heaven or hell or any of that stuff, just understand that there are people and there have been people for thousands of years since the beginning of our recorded time that have had experiences with interdimensional things. that are outside of our physical realm. So understand that that is absolutely likely true, that there is something else. Now, you could say, well, what is what is wrong with like if I just don't give a damn about God or Jesus or any of that?
Starting point is 01:42:29 And we just live, I live my life and I'm a good person. I don't know, because I'm not a pastor. I'm not a preacher. James is going to come on this week. I can't tell you what's going to happen. But it's just interesting that both Brittany and I say, and we feel that we have a spiritual understanding with each other that we cannot explain. We have a spiritual being, no matter what religion you are,
Starting point is 01:42:54 as long as you have that spiritual being, and you feel that and you feel God's presence, I think that's what you need. Yeah. Right. Like, I just feel there's something coming. There is some sort of, I don't know if it's a battle of good and evil. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I think we're already there, Brittany. Something coming. And I know I'm good. Like I'm on the side of good. Yeah, I am too. And I know that in my heart. Me too. And I will fight the evil to death.
Starting point is 01:43:23 I'm not scared. Yeah. And that's what I feel is coming. By the way, I feel like we could be warriors for whoever we're fighting for. Absolutely. No, I agree with this, by the way. And listen, you guys, I mean, listen, you guys are experiencing things.
Starting point is 01:43:38 And, and I want everybody to know, Brittany, what is your ex account so people can go and look at your videos and, And do all that. Just tell everybody what is. At Lil Britt, Britt, Little Britt. Little Brit. I made it in high school.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Sounds about right. But it's at L-I-L-L-B-R-I-T. L-A-L-L-B-R-A-T. Okay. Little Brit, I actually remember a little Brit back when I was in high school, too, which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:44:04 So it makes sense. That's crazy. It's like the high school thing. Yeah, so go follow her page on X because she posts videos every time she experiences these orbs. I do think there's something there for sure i've been following brittany's videos i always see them i see the interactions a lot of
Starting point is 01:44:19 people are very interested like i probably get some of them wrong just like they say like 90% will be something explainable i'm sure some of mine are just so plain or something i know they're not all right but i know some of them are unexplainable and i've seen things like the triangle formations um the lights look them down in my yard there's a lot that are very unexplainable yeah i've seen these videos too britt i think i've even I agree with you. I think it's not explainable. It's not a plane.
Starting point is 01:44:49 It's not a drone. It's something else. Yeah, I mean, yes, for sure. Some of the videos I saw Brittany, it's very weird. It's very strange, unexplainable, how they look, how they kind of move. And that's why I kind of got on and told you. I said, hey, I would like to talk to you about some of these videos. And a lot of people that see your videos are like, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Right. And I'll say, like, anytime, if you can prove, it's something, I'll admit it. I'll be like, okay. Absolutely. And I have the flight radar. I do try to follow all that. But I'm saying some of the things I see are not explainable. No, they're not. I get that. And Sherry, too, to your point, I mean, with all the stuff by the river and all of that, it's very weird. And I say this all the time. And there's people on telegram all the time that says. Yeah. And in the beginning, you're like, oh, I'm sorry. No, all the time I say, if, you know, if people could come here and see this, they would see it too. It's not just you. It's not like you're just a. imagine in this. And kind of to Brittany's point, it kind of does look like soccer ball size. You know, when you're 50 feet away, that's essentially what is there. And there's two or
Starting point is 01:45:53 three or four of them at, you know, and sometimes. And they're very bright. They're very prominent. And, you know, like I said, the one time I said, hey, I'm protected by Jesus because I was a little freaked out and they disappeared. And Sherry was like, damn you, you made them leave. I was like, well, if they left because of Jesus, then they're not on Jesus's side. Well, I don't know, but maybe me and my husband getting those fights all the time too. And he's like, why would you want them here if they're not with Jesus? And I'm like, but I need to know. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:46:24 I need to know and I need to know what they are. And guys, listen, anyone out there listening, if you have had experiences similar to Sherry or Brittany, please reach out to us and let us know whether it's on X or or Facebook or Instagram or investigate Earth podcast at Protonmel.com. You can reach out to us in any of those facets. We also do have a merchandise store, Investigator Earthstore.com, which we are finally about to change out our limited edition line.
Starting point is 01:46:51 It has been like a month and a half now, but we're finally about to change it out to go and check out that merchandise line as well. I want to hear from people out there, like, have you had these experiences? Because I know we're not the only ones. No, absolutely not. I mean, there's tons of people. There's tons of people out there to have these experiences.
Starting point is 01:47:07 And we've talked to them regularly. And I think that the difference is that some people open themselves up more to this realm than others. And it's not to say that, you know, it's just like with a remote viewing, what the government found out was even when they brought random people off the streets into try to remote view and they just gave them some principles of how to do this, they were also able to do this. Now, some were stronger than others, but almost everyone they brought in had some type of remote
Starting point is 01:47:35 viewing capability in some way. And so when Ross Colthart came out and talked about this psionic ability to potentially control some of these craft. Now, like Brittany said, I don't necessarily trust Ross Colthart if you, and I know Ashton doesn't. I mean, Ashton Ford's like God of money. Ashton does not like Ross Colthard, I don't
Starting point is 01:47:55 believe. And I've actually talked to some people on Skywatcher to myself. They've contacted me and I have my own iffy like, I don't know. They're just kind of there. Yeah, it's interesting. I think there's definitely a propaganda
Starting point is 01:48:10 campaign going on all the time, whether it is anti-alien or anti-advanced tech. Yeah, they're very interested in knowing kind of what I'm saying. They want my videos. They want to know. But then they're also like, okay, thank you. Like, goodbye. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:29 They get what they want and then it's goodbye. Yeah. No, I agree. Well, Brittany, thank you so much for coming on. We really appreciate it. Yeah, it's just so great to have like stories, you know, to know that I am not freaking crazy. crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Right. You could still be crazy, but maybe you just. No, I don't think I'm crazy. Chad. I'm just kidding. We're not crazy. I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:48:51 I'm just kidding. But guys, we're going to play you out with the same song. Brittany, if you want to hang out just for a second on the backside of this song and we'll say goodbye to you. But guys, until next time, we love you all so very much.
Starting point is 01:49:02 And we're going to play out this weird song. It's kind of weird. I love it. It reminds me as a Lion King a little bit. It kind of does. It's called Delilah by Cuba. That's going to be it for us tonight. But we do have a lot of good stuff coming up.
Starting point is 01:49:15 We're going to have James on to talk about the biblical side of this very soon. The same guy that talked about Enoch with us. So until next time, we love you guys. Peace out. Peace out, guys. Lila, Lila, you've been getting dangerous. I'm straying them. Find God.
Starting point is 01:49:53 You want me. Give my love only till my job, you call me. Do me, die. Do me. Find, fine, guys. You want me. Give my love only till my love Come me, she do me die.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Oh, me. Delaida la, why you wanna break me so? Delilah, why you wanna break me so? Take time, take chance. I'm why you make plans on me. Come fly, come land on me. Go do, go dance. Take time, take chance.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I want to make plans on me. Come fly, come land on me. Go-do go down, take time, take chance and why make plans on me, come fly, come land on me. Go-do, go down, take time, take chance, only, and why make plans on me,
Starting point is 01:51:47 come fly, come land on me.

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