Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Portland Riots & Protest | Trump Designates Antifa as Terrorist

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Protests exploded in Portland this weekend outside the ICE facility, while tensions flared in Chicago — scenes that felt more like déjà vu than coincidence. Are these spontaneous uprisings, or sig...ns of something coordinated and much bigger happening beneath the surface? Tonight, Chad and Sheri break down the footage, the players, and the hidden forces driving America’s growing unrest.Check out our merchandise store

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Like days, do you have a period of... So and welcome to Investigator with Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, it's been a wild weekend in Portland as protests heated up outside of the ice facility. Chaos, smoke, and clashes with police once again lightened up the streets, and it didn't stop there. Chicago saw its own wave of unrest, adding to a growing sense that something bigger is coming across the country. So now we're going to break it all down, what sparked it, who's behind it, and what these protests could really mean for where we are headed. Next, guys, welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It is October the 5th, 2025. The name of this song is Riot by Blood, Red Sun. And yet again, we have to play this song at the beginning of a show. Because I don't know how many times we played this over the past, I don't know, five or six years at least, where there were riots, there were protests, there were cities being burnt down. Whether it's Antifa or Black Lives Matter or something else, it seems like America is dealing with this on a regular basis now.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And now that Trump is back in office and what he actually campaigned for, which was that when I get in office, we are going to use ice for what they are actually for, which is to deport illegal immigrants in our country. We're going to actually let them do their jobs. Well, now we're starting to get protests all around the ice facilities pretty much all across the country. And especially in places like Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago, you name it, to the point where Donald Trump is now saying, look, we got to, we're going to have to have. to send in National Guard. And it's not even necessarily for the crowd control aspect, but it's really to protect our ICE agents, to let them do their job. Because a lot of people are saying, well, this is, you know, this is martial law.
Starting point is 00:02:36 This is Trump trying to bring in the military into cities across the country to usher in martial law. But let me explain why Trump is wanting to bring in National Guard into the places where they are having heavy ice presence, places that are sanctuary. cities. It is because ICE cannot do their jobs when they're having to try to protect themselves from these Antifa psychos. So how are they supposed to do their jobs? Now, should we depend on Portland police to protect ICE and to make sure the Antifa or whoever the craze lunatics, you know, the same type of people that shot Charlie Kirk. Should we just depend on Portland
Starting point is 00:03:15 police to do that? Because I don't think so. If you look at the latest lawsuit, the city of Portland including Portland Police Sergeant that is suing the Trump administration saying, hey, you know what? If you are on the right or you're a reporter and you're in Portland and you get hit in the face or you get attacked, it's your own fault. It's not Antifa's fault.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's your own fault. And so what we're calling right now, officially Portland police, we are calling them Antifa police because they're there to protect Antifa, not there to protect citizens and not there at all to help the federal government. So on this episode,
Starting point is 00:03:50 we're going to talk about number one what's been going on over the past weekend. Cherry and I had plenty of time over the past few days to watch all the live streams in Portland, some of the live streams in Chicago, and it's because we got the cat flu. And I know that sounds crazy. I know that sounds nuts. It sounds bad shit crazy or cat shit crazy. I don't know what it is. But our cats got sick like a week ago.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Like the first one got sick and then another one got sick. And then the third one is still sick right now. And like a few days ago, I was like, you know what, I got to go check on Bobby. That's one of our cats. He's black and white cat. He's the sweetest cat ever. And I went and checked on him, petting his little head. It was like, I don't know, 8 o'clock at night.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And I was, I kind of had my face kind of towards his face. I was like, Bobby, you okay? Whatever. And then like a couple of days later, I wake up with the same sickness that they have. And I'm like, there's no way I got sick from cats. And then I was like, I got to ask AI. Can you get sick from cats? And the reason why we think it's just cats is because we're,
Starting point is 00:04:49 We really haven't been anywhere. No. Since like last Friday. Yeah, we haven't been a lot of places for sure. I mean, there's some place we've been, but, you know, but for the most part, no. I don't think we got sick from outside sources is weird. But then I looked it up on AI and it says, yeah, you can get sick from cats. And there's a specific cat sickness that's going around, I guess, over the past
Starting point is 00:05:08 couple of years that is transmitting to people. So it is a zoonotic virus that people are able to actually catch from their cats. And so, like, we literally have a cat right now that's coughing, sneezing. And it sounds like he's a freaking adult human that is sick with some type of bronchitis. And so I got sick and I used nasal spray. Luckily, it did not last very long. I'm sure he got sick this morning. So anyways, we had plenty of time to watch the live videos of the protests in Portland and Chicago.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And there's a lot of stuff I want to say about this tonight because there's two sides of this story. You obviously are going to have people on the right that are saying, hell yeah. you know, crush heads or, you know, go out there and just do whatever you got to do. You know, let's lock these fools up. Let's put them behind bars forever, throw away the key. Let's completely take away their freedom of speech. I don't care if they are who, I don't care if they're American citizens. We got to take away everything from them. And then there's, you know, there's also the people that are like, hey, you know what, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:09 they're protesting. You have a right in America to protest. But there is a line, right? You can protest, but there is a line to your protesting. when it becomes violent, when it becomes that you are assaulting police officers, when all this stuff happens, you're blocking roadways, you're not allowing people to go to their homes, or if you're protesting and blowing up fireworks and doing all this crazy shit around apartment buildings, which is literally right across the street from the ice facility
Starting point is 00:06:35 in Portland, then there's a difference in free speech and riots and inciting violence. Okay, so there's a huge difference. But there are definitely two sides of this story. and so I want to talk about those tonight because I've been thinking about this a lot, right? I'll be honest, guys and girls. We have had so much stuff go on like literally over the past month or two.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I remember on this podcast probably before pre two months ago for a couple of months there was just not a lot going on and I told what I was like man, there's just not a lot of news. There's not a lot like there's not a lot of stuff to talk about. I know some people are always like, we don't want to hear about politics.
Starting point is 00:07:16 We don't want to hear about that. You know, we want like the ghost stuff, the UFO stuff. We want all that. But and that's fine, right? When the stuff that's very important isn't happening that will likely affect our lives in some way, shape, or form. And what's going on right now with Trump's movement, the mass movement of ICE officials and officers in major cities when he is saying that, you know, number one, we're
Starting point is 00:07:41 designating Antifa as a terrorist organization. And then also when he's saying, we're going to bring in National Guard and maybe even active duty military in some of these places. This is when things that, you know, look, UFOs and ghosts and all this stuff is very important. But we also, I think this is very important to talk about because it could go bad on both ways, right? I understand that we have to have law and order in this country. 100%. We have to make sure that there are not little assholes from Antifa that are blocking city streets that are assaulting law enforcement. officers and journalists and getting away with it.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And at the same time, where these city, these woke sanctuary cities like Portland, where they are commanding their law enforcement, no matter what. To stand down. Stand down. Do not arrest anybody. Antifa especially that assaults people or law enforcement or whatever do not do anything to them. But if you do see anyone from the right or journalists or any of that stuff that gets
Starting point is 00:08:38 involved in some type of scrap, arrest them first. And that just happened to Nick Soder. Nick Sorder is a huge name on X. He is a definitely a conservative influencer, I guess you can say. He is, I've talked to Nick quite a few times. One of the nicest guys you will ever talk to. And Nick Sorder a couple of days ago was in Portland to where Antifa decided that they wanted to surround him. And they wanted to start pushing on him and threatening his life and pushing him into bushes.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And when he defended himself in the least little bit of way, he decided. did you know what i'm going to go and stand next to portland police because maybe that's the safest place right you think like you go to police if you want to make sure that you're safe and yet what happened well they arrested nick they didn't arrest anybody that was actually surrounding him threatening him or hitting him they arrested nick sorter and now nick sorter is up on arraignment charges for disorderly conduct as of tomorrow so you have portland police which are protecting antifa they are protecting the left wing, what they call themselves anti-fascist, although I believe they are fascist.
Starting point is 00:09:46 They're literally promoting anti-fascism, but yet they are fascists themselves. And then you have this whole other layer of the Trump administration, which is, it's almost like there's about to be a battle in these cities. You know, these Trump has it out. You know, he's like, look, I'm sick of these sanctuary cities, these woke ideological mayor, like Portland's mayor, for example, she was walking in one of the protest parades in Portland just a couple of days ago. And she's a big LGBTQ plus, you know, advocate. Yeah, she was actually walking with her wife. I believe it was her wife or her girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And they were hand in hand. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, someone came up to her and ask a question. And of course, she's like, no, I'm not answering anything. You can talk to whoever if you want to know that. And then Portland decided they're going to sue the Trump administration for trying to to bring in law and order into Portland. And it's not even just law and order. It's just to say that, look, number one, we have to protect our ICE agents that are doing their job around the ICE facility, which is where these protests have been. And so we're going to have to likely send in National Guard.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And it's only because your police officers cannot do the job that they're supposed to do. So how else are we supposed to do this besides sending in the National Guard to do the job that the police are not doing? And I want to reiterate that the police cannot do their job. It's not that they're not willing to do their job. I think that if they had a willingness and enableness to go out and arrest all these people that are standing in the streets or, you know, causing all this torment, they would arrest them. But they have been charged to stand down. They're not allowed to arrest anyone.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah. That is Antifa. Absolutely. You know, that's, there's a whole another rabbit hole going on against that. Like, they could have easily arrested many, many, many members of Antifa. and they had to let them go and let them walk away. Yeah, there's even scanner traffic that will let you hear some of the stand-down orders, especially the police chief or not even a police chief,
Starting point is 00:11:48 like the captain of patrols and all this stuff they're saying, look, you do not help in any way, shape, or form. There has been multiple violent crimes that have taken place in Portland to where on scanner traffic, you can hear that say stand down, do not do anything, let them go. Same thing is also happening in Chicago. So this is, in some way, some people, calling it insurrection, right, against the government of the United States for the government.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It's literally cities and states that are trying to upend government operations by trying to deport and use ICE for what they're actually supposed to be there for, which is to enforce immigration laws. Well, the states and the cities and they're using their own police forces to try to upend this. They're trying to get in the way and in between federal agents and their jobs and their duties. And that alone, by the way, guys, I don't know if anybody's ever thought. about this, but that alone could turn into something very bad if it doesn't change very quickly. So what we do know is that Portland has sued the Trump administration, and I think also the
Starting point is 00:12:46 Department of Justice and ICE, by saying that you are not allowed, is essentially what they're saying, to bring in National Guard, you're not allowed to do your job what you're supposed to do as ICE agents or you're also not allowed to send in National Guard to upend or supersede our local law enforcement. The problem with this is, and what Sherry was saying, is I'm not saying that all police officers there don't want to do their job, but there are definitely some that are willingly not doing their job, and they are forcefully not doing their job. Such, for example, there was a police officer.
Starting point is 00:13:23 There was a woman driving down the road because it is a road that she goes to her house normally on, and Antifa surrounded her. So what happened? Well, instead of police opening the way up in this. road to allow the vehicle through to where she normally travels, they instead make her roll her window down and yell and scream at her and say, if you do not turn your vehicle around, you will be arrested right now on site. And this lady is like, why am I going to be arrested when I'm literally traveling on a public
Starting point is 00:13:53 highway going to my house, which I've always done, and now all of a sudden I'm not allowed to do that because they're blocking the roadway, which is illegal. And then so they're screaming and they're saying, I'm just telling you're going to be arrested. So there are some officers that are just dickheads. They are assholes and they are just a much of part of this system. And you got to keep in mind, too, when you have mayors like you have in Portland and you have and then you put in office and empower chiefs and sergeants and everybody else positions of power in these law enforcement agencies, they're also going to be woke. These are the people that you're looking for. Likely, they have far less experience than someone they could have hired.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But instead, they're doing the DEI thing, which is to say, hey, look, let's make. sure we have a chief that's like pro-LGBQ plus pro-antifa pro-anty-Trump let's then put in sergeants that are also for our entire goal they're kind of almost like creating a another army in their cities against the federal government and so how far is this going to go because you know the federal government eventually is going to look at some of these departments that are literally hiring people that are intentionally going against the federal government's operations. How far is the federal government going to go until the federal agents are going to start clashing with local law enforcement? And then if you want to see a civil war start breaking out, that's a very bad thing.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And that can happen very easily, especially where we're at right now. But I think during the weekend, I did see them working together as a team somewhat. Very, very rare. The situation you were talking about with the lady in the car, though, she wasn't just screaming back at them. She was in tears. She was crying. She was scared. Her whole car was covered with Antifa people.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And they're all like knocking on her windows and stuff. She couldn't get by. She was literally in tears, scared to death. And I just put myself in her shoes. If I were trying to get down the street, well, number one, what if that's the only way you can get down the street? If I could go away, you know, go around. And it took me an extra 30 minutes. I'd probably do that just to avoid that area.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But let's just say you have to go through that area. put yourself in that in their in her shoes how scary would that be having all these people in black with big um gas masks gas masks on their face and yelling and screaming at you in the window because you're trying to get home and oftentimes by the way a lot of these people will break your windows with their flags or their poles or whatever the case is they do all this crazy shit and we saw this during the black lives matter riots we saw this during antiva riots over the past eight years to where there would be people that would try to drive home through some of these protests that would randomly pop up across city streets.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And some of these people, and especially during the Black Lives Matter movement, a lot of white people would be pulled out of their vehicles and beaten, damn near to death. Yeah. And guess what? Did anybody get charged with a lot of stuff? No. No, typically not because they would always protect these pieces of shit. So.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Well, and that's the case too with what's going on in Portland. There was a lady, and I know you're probably going to show a video about that, but this lady literally got hit right below her eye with a flagpole with an Antifa member. And she had it on camera. She followed them. She called 911. She followed them. She showed the cops where they were.
Starting point is 00:17:10 The cops were right behind the people. No, they actually did follow the people, but then just let them go. He's like, well, no, we're waiting for other police to show up. Yeah, it's bullshit. And let them go. Yeah. It's all, it's all a facade, right? The local police, they want to pretend like they're doing something, but they're never actually doing anything.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You know, for example, when they actually, when Antifa blocked the main street that went down from, you know, like from the main highway into where the ice facility area was, where these protests were going on. Well, Antifa decided that we're going to block the entire road, right? So there are people houses, apartments. There are neighborhood entrances from this area. They blocked the entire intersection. If you pan the camera to the right, you would see like 12 Portland police officers that were just sitting on the side of the corner, mostly on bikes. and they were not there to stop the Antifa members from blocking the roadways. What they were there to actually do is to make sure that no one interfered with Antifa blocking the roadways.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Portland Police is 100% pro-Antifa. They want to allow Antifa to do what the hell they want to do. And they want to make sure that anyone that tries to negate that or getting in the face of Antifa, they are going to be the people that are arrested. Those people on the corner of the cops that don't do anything. Liaisons. Yeah, that are supposed to just like talk to the people. people and try to chill them out or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah, absolutely. And so this whole thing, it has went off the rolls. And Nick Sorder, as I said earlier, Nick Sorder is a great guy, a journalist. He's someone that said, hey, you know what, I want to go to Portland. And I want to report on this. I want to see what's actually going on in Portland. And so he went, he got surrounded and he got arrested. And this was his report.
Starting point is 00:18:50 He went and talked to the Fox News reporter. And this is what he had to say. Here you go. Tell us what happened exactly. And it's crazy. The entire day has been crazy. I mean, it's still the same day as yesterday for me because I've been up all night because I was stuffed in a jail. And the jail here in Portland weirdly empty because they don't actually arrest criminals around here. Just people like me that, you know, report on what's actually going on on the ground out here. I am next to the ice facility. I'm on federal property right now and Portland police won't dare step foot on federal property as we know. But, you know, Joey, we, we, know that these Antifa thugs hate to be filmed in general. They hate it even more when you film them while they're screaming and crying because they were just Mace because they effed around and found out by pushing federal agents. You know, they're not as tough as they want you to believe that they are.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And so, you know, the last thing they want is for somebody like me to film them while they're crying with Mace in their eyes. So unfortunately for them, I have a First Amendment right as an American citizen, I can film them in public on the sidewalk, and there's nothing they can do about it. So that's why they broke down. I wouldn't go away. I wouldn't stop filming them. And so they got violent and aggressive, and they started punching me. They broke my camera. Yeah. And somehow that's criminal on my part. Haven't figured that part out yet. You know, Nick, a lot has been made about the fact that you were kind of reporting on the police not responding. They were burning American flags, getting, I don't know, antsy, I guess.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You were just reporting on the police, and kind of what you would say is not being lax about it. Then all of a sudden you get arrested. Now, I know there's a tussle there, and if we watch football, it's the guy that shoves last that gets the flag called on them. What is your perspective on this? Do you think that the police knew who you were,
Starting point is 00:20:45 arrested you because of it, or do you think that you were just the last one kind of swinging there, and that's why they grabbed you? Well, considering the fact that they don't arrest you, anybody here ever, especially, you know, down here you saw Katie Davis court with that, that black eye that she got, you know, the police followed the assailant and did nothing. They just let them go, right? Now all of a sudden they change it when I am here, when a conservative journalist is on the ground, you know, exposing what's actually going on. Is that just a coincidence?
Starting point is 00:21:16 How did that just happen all of a sudden? I mean, it's, I don't really think it is a coincidence, unfortunately, Joey. But, you know, because I was, I didn't have very, uh, um, glowing reviews for them on Laura's show last night when I was here. And it took them over an hour to figure out what the charge was. They arrested me. They put me in the back of the police car. We parked on the side of the road for a while. And then after about an hour, they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:40 okay, yeah, we'll charge them with disorderly conduct. So, which is, if what I was doing is disorderly, what do you call people with megaphone at 3 o'clock in the morning lighting fires in the middle of the street? What is that? Did you notice when the police got there with a pro-tolerant? Were they pointing their eye at all police, at the local police as well? Or did they keep it on ice? Like, did you see any type of, I don't know if it's a relationship, or did the protesters say, oh, they're on our side. Let's keep it pushing towards ice or describe some of that to us.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah, so they really don't seem to have any ill will toward the Portland police. But why would they? The Portland police have been running cover for them for years now. It's like they're in the pocket of Antifo. You know, when you've got these, you know, Bill Malugian, he was here for a few days as well, talking to these liaisons. They have these liaisons. I want to stop here for a second because he's making good points here. And I want to, this is probably the biggest point that we have to try to figure out with what's going on. You have federal agents.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You have ICE. You have Homeland Security. You have likely National Guard that's going to come in. Antiva is mostly out against these people. And it almost seems as if that the Portland police are their protectors. And we've already talked a little bit about this. But this is in some ways maybe leading to an insurrection. You know, you think about like the word insurrection.
Starting point is 00:23:10 You think about what they used in January 6th to say all the people that stormed the capital was insurrection. Well, insurrection usually is some way or some some facet of how you're going. going to overthrow a government, right? You're going to overthrow a sitting president or you're going to overthrow agents or you're going to use state powers to be able to do that. And Open Society Foundation, George Soros, these types of people have been trying to figure out a way to overthrow the United States government for a very long time. They want to upend our sovereignty. They want to upend everything that the United States has stood for for so very long. And they want to erode our Constitution.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And so they're doing it in any way they possibly can. So what I think they're starting to do, and if you go back just for a second, I want to go down this little rabbit hole with you guys for a minute, just to think about how this is all being laid out. This didn't just start yesterday. It didn't start last weekend. It didn't start six months ago. If you think back to when during the Biden-Harris administration and then also think
Starting point is 00:24:14 back to the Obama administration, Ferguson, Missouri. But you started thinking about when George Soros and the Open Society Foundation really started funding, heavily funding, these prosecutors in major cities like Los Angeles, like George Gascon, for example, that when Los Angeles was burning down, when all of these riots were happening in Los Angeles, and they created a system with prosecutors that said, look, we're not going to actually prosecute crimes anymore. We're going to let people go. we're going to give a message to the criminals that you can do basically whatever the hell you want to do. Well, that was the first process of, you know, the same thing George Soros has done for so many years, which, you know, the Open Society Foundation is one thing. But George Soros has funded coups in other countries for years. We're talking about in Africa.
Starting point is 00:25:06 We're talking about in South America. I think that he is heavily also funding the UK uprising. I'm not saying the uprising of the actual people in the United Kingdom. I'm talking about the uprising and the mass immigration that is coming across the borders. Most of them are Muslim. Most of them are one to force on the people of Britain and of the UK of Sharia law. But when you see this shit, this is all funded by people like George Soros. And so this has started many years ago where they started putting in place prosecutors
Starting point is 00:25:41 and major cities. They started doing this sanctuary city shit. And then they installed a president like Joe Biden to where they would allow a border to be wide open that nobody or nothing could do anything about during the time it was happening, including the agents that were, that's literally why they went to work for ICE and for the border patrol, was to stop a border invasion. And yet their hands were tied.
Starting point is 00:26:06 They were not allowed to talk on camera. They were not allowed to ask or to answer any questions by media. they were silenced and many of them quit, many of them, you know, and so as they would quit, the Biden administration would then put in new border agents that would be pro-immigration. They'd be pro-illegal immigrants. So that was another part of the process. And then they started installing judges across the country. We saw this with Donald Trump when he was getting charged with every freaking thing under the sun.
Starting point is 00:26:37 They started, and we're still seeing this, by the way. you have judges that are that are getting involved in the U.S. government's role in protecting their own people from domestic terrorists, which I do believe people like Antifa are domestic terrorists. But now you have judges that are making rulings based on their own ideologies, not based on law, but based on their ideologies to where they're saying, look, you know what? We're going to stop this. We're going to make sure this is happening. This is all from outside sources. This is all from outside funding. is all from the New World Order.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So when we're seeing the Portland police that are protecting Antifa, this is just a very, this is kind of the outset of what's already been going on for years. It has been. They have installed people in our, in our police in these major cities. They put mayors in charge. They put prosecutors in charge. Look at the military, for example. I mean, for Pete Heggseth, the Department of War or the Secretary of War, they call it now,
Starting point is 00:27:36 he has a big job on his hands because now he has to somehow put. purge all of the people that the left, that the Biden-Harris administration, the deep state and the Open Society Foundation, put in power. And I'm talking about in major positions of power in our military, you have to figure out who the hell all those people are and you got to now get them out. The same way that the Biden-Harris administration had to figure out how to get people out of the military that were maybe more conservative. How'd they do that? Well, that was the vaccine mandate. That was one of the ways they figured it. out. And then they started going through
Starting point is 00:28:11 these military members, telegram channels, text messaging apps, you name it. They started figuring out who was pro-Trump, who was pro-Maga, and they would figure out ways to get them the hell out of the military. We lost more soldiers during the Biden
Starting point is 00:28:27 Harris administration that were patriots of America, that were, yes, more conservative than left, that were ready to defend our freedom as American or as America, they got rid of most of those people. And so now Pete Hex's job is to figure out how to build that shit back, get out the people that the deep state and the globalist put in power in our own military.
Starting point is 00:28:52 That's a huge job. But the problem is right now is that these sanctuary cities, they have done the exact same thing just on a lower level. They've done it in local police departments. They've done it in all of this. That's why in Aurora, Colorado, for example, when you had the Transcendarrawa gang that was taking over apartment buildings and I found it also very interesting. You remember during this time that they had an interim chief of police and Aurora police.
Starting point is 00:29:18 She was an LGBTQ chick, I think, as well. So you had this interim chief. You had city council members that were going to these apartment buildings and saying, Trindy, Aragua has taken over these apartment buildings. There was mass evidence everywhere that they were doing this. And yet the messaging out from Aurora and out from Colorado and out from the state government and everybody was like, you are all crazy. You're conservatives, your liars. You're saying shit that is not happening.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And now it's very apparent that that was happening. And this is all a thing that they want to try to delay as much as possible for the federal government or for someone to do something about it long enough to build up all of these cartel members, all of these gangs from other countries. These gangs need time to build up their infrastructure inside of the United States. Well, and that's what I was going to ask you because this is not really hit mainstream media until now. But these protests have been going on for 100 days in Portland every night. Like I have watched them interview people and they've been there for 100 nights every night protesting. Well, I think the Trump administration is probably likely pushing a lot of this stuff. They're going to make waves in these places because they want mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:30:35 to really take account of this because they're going to benefit off of more people showing up. And that's exactly what happened this weekend. There were more pro-patriots than I think there were Antifa. Yeah, but they're also going to benefit on the Antifa side that shows up because it's going to look like their mission is more foundational than, you know, what the mainstream media has been saying for years. Antifa is not a thing. It's not an organization. It's not none of this stuff. But the reality is that it benefits of Trump administration and everything.
Starting point is 00:31:03 when mainstream media gets on this and they just cover it nonstop, this helps the Trump administration as well because there's going to be a lot of normal people that are like, we're sick of this bullshit. Like get these damn people out of the streets. I don't give a shit who you got to send in. Ice, you know, active duty military. We don't care. Yeah, it absolutely does.
Starting point is 00:31:24 So we'll play a little more of what Nick sort of says. And then we got a lot more to talk about because is this a good thing? You know, could the government, and I'm not even saying the right or left, but could the government use this as a way to silence all of us? On officers that they station around here, they are supposed to only intervene in cases of imminent death, right? So if you're getting beaten the street until you're, you know, unconscious and bleeding out, they're not going to step in.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I mean, they'll tell you that if you ask them. And so the Antifa people have gotten used to it where there is no action from Portland police. So, yeah, they feel like they're on the same side at this point. And especially, you know, you should have heard the cheers from the crowd when I was arrested. You know, they loved that. Are you out there alone and unafraid? Actually, I think we got a video real quick of you pulling the American flag. If we have that, I'd like to play it.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And, yeah, let's play that real quick. We got a Trump supporter. We got a Trump supporter right here. Oh, he's putting it on the ground and he's making it worse. And now we stand it. Oh, he's standing on it. You're not supposed to stand on it. Oh, now he thinks he's saving it.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Okay, so it looks like one of the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz was trying to tell you that you made it worse. Were there any other counter protesters out there? Are you the only person there with common sense that cares about the American flag that understands that ICE has a job to do? I mean, were you there alone and unafraid in that? So I definitely wasn't there alone. There were some counter protesters. But in terms of, you know, I'm built a little bit differently, right? I was willing to run into that and grab that flag, put that fire out.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And I still, I actually have that flag now. It's in the back of my car. I posted a photo of, actually, Bill Malusian took a photo of me with it earlier in front of the ice facility. And I still have it. I'm going to bring it home with me. And I'll, you know, cherish it the way that it should be cherished. These people, they hate our country. They hate our flag.
Starting point is 00:33:30 They hate everything that we're about. I'm telling you right now, Joey, this place doesn't feel like the United States of America anymore. It feels like a third world communist country. And that's the way that the government out here treats the citizens as well. I mean, people like me are not welcome here by the government. They literally threw me in jail. They try, they want to intimidate us into shutting up and going away and not coming here. Because, you know, it's pretty obvious to the American people.
Starting point is 00:33:59 when you show what's actually going on here on the ground, this is like a 90-10 issue. Yeah, and so there's Nick Sorter. By the way, Nick Sorter, good job, bro. Like, good job going out there and taking a burning flag from one of these Antifa assholes and putting it out. He said he has the flag now. But, guys, this is what we are dealing with. And listen, our podcast, and I say this all the time, Sherry and I have gotten many debates about Israel or whatever, but we've also talked a lot about our government. I mean, a lot of conspiracies that we talk about and we have talked about for years is usually surrounded by the corruption of our government.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And so I think as a patriot of the United States of America, what we all want is for the betterment of our government for our people. We want the best that our government can possibly do for us, right? The government is there to work for us. And it's not there to work for ideologies. It's not there to work for outside assets, such as George Soros and Open Society Foundation. It's not there to work for any of those, including foreign nations, including Ukraine, including Israel, including any of those people. We have to put our people first.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Number one, if you're a patriot of America, you are here for America. You are not here for anyone else. And unfortunately, Antifa and these thugs are not here for America. They are here for lawlessness. They are here for communism. They are here for socialism. They're here for all the things that have destroyed so many nations and so many countries around the world throughout history. That's what they want.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And it's not it's not even necessarily what they want because if you actually ask a lot of these Antiva thugs what their actual goals are, what they want to accomplish with what they're trying to portray the messaging of, whether it's the anti-fascism or whatever, they're literally saying everything opposite of what their goal is. I mean, they are the fascist. They want fascist ideologies and fascist governments. That is literally what they're protesting in the same way that like on college campuses where during the Black Lives Matter protest where you would have all these people and also the anti-Israel protest where you'd have these people showing up to college campuses
Starting point is 00:36:11 and there would be these booths set up that were for socialist party movements. And all these people would sign their names and they'd be like, hey, be a socialist, be a communist. This is a great way to do it. This is USSR, you know, and there were a lot of people flying the USSR flag with the communist flag, you know, over the past weekend. But this is going to be a turning point for America. And I don't know exactly how far it's going to turn, but just like last night, Sherry. I want to get to this point next. We watched a live stream last night.
Starting point is 00:36:43 We watched the night before. There were these Antifa thugs that were making these gestures to some of the right wing people that showed up. and they were making gestures like blood spewing from the neck. And they were saying it towards Charlie Kirk. Yeah, because a lot of these patriots were wearing shirts that were white. It seems like the Patriots were white. And they had the shirt that said freedom on them. Yeah, the Charlie Kurt shirts.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. And it was interesting because the people that are on the right of government were on the right side of the street. And the people that were left of the left government were on the left side. And then the media is kind of right behind them. Yeah, yeah. And then the media kind of hides out. Yeah, and then they intermingle in the streets. Yeah, but there were these Antibah thugs that shows up and they're doing these blood,
Starting point is 00:37:26 these blood things, these symbols on their neck and saying, yeah, F. Charlie Kirk and he's a demon and he's Satan and all this shit. I want to play this music video, which I found last night. We're going to listen to it together. And the reason why we're going to listen to it together because I want everybody that is, that has listened to our podcast. I want you to go and support this guy. the reason why I want you to support this guy and we're going to play this music in this entirety is because what our next segment of this podcast
Starting point is 00:37:57 is going to talk about is something that he says at the very end of the song which you have to also think about with all this. It makes everything makes sense. Yes. But Samson, his name is S-A-M-S-O-N. So S-A-M-S-O-N. If you go look him up on YouTube, he is an artist. He has done tons of music.
Starting point is 00:38:19 videos he's a rapper but he's done amazing videos he's talked about nancy pelosi he's talked about corruption he talks about stuff and i believe honestly i think he's better than tom mcdonald for those that know who tom macdonald is i think sampson is better at being a lyricist than tom macdonald is but i want to play uh his latest video it's only got 83 000 views in two days which is surprising to me that this has not got millions of views already i want you guys to go to Samson's channel. And I want you to say, hey, I heard your song and Investigator Earth or whatever, but share this video when you go to his channel to everybody you know and go subscribe to him, go
Starting point is 00:38:57 support him, because we need artists like this that is trying their very best to put this all in place. And he talks about Charlie Kirk. And the name of the song is Tipping Point. And so we're going to play that now for you guys, Innocentarity. Here you go. Rest and peace to Charlie Kirk and bless his family. I know the devil's hard at work.
Starting point is 00:39:30 can't even fathom all the grief and pain that y'all have went through. My thoughts are nearly impossible to explain, but I'll attempt to. I've already written like five intros. So many wasted paragraphs and revised pinstrokes. There's just so many things I want to say, and I don't want to say I'm wrong. I don't know how many times I almost threw away this song. But I feel an obligation. I have a platform, and people want my observation.
Starting point is 00:39:53 This one is complicated. I go back and forth on it. The facts are distorted so much. I'm half and half. I'm torn on it. Trying to grasp the scope of this, and so I'm asking if there's more to it. Reading way too much and end up actually just warping it. Too many voices echoing, reporting everything.
Starting point is 00:40:08 How you supposed to comb through all these different passages and sort it? There's so much information out there. It can make you feel like you don't know what's fake or real. Way too many Facebook drills. Shit, it's almost like it's done on purpose just to make us chase our tails. I wish someone would wake me up and offer me those matrix pills. So I could see through all the tents and the facade, but I can't. So I feel like I should give this up to God.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Because it's a lot. And I could use some guidance because I'm struggling. I got two different sides that are inside of me just tugging. My heart tells me fuck these nasty individuals. So despicable. Fucking trash. I bet they're miserable. Couldn't last in a debate so they had to get physical.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Got smashed verbally. So they resorted back to trigger pulls. All he did was talk. He debated that was all. Never held a position in office or made any laws. He created an organization to display his faith. He sat right in front of your face and had conversations with y'all. He spoke
Starting point is 00:40:59 You never suspended your rights Never signed a single fucking bill That affected your life What exactly did he do That directly impacted you Instead of saying a couple of sentences That you disliked Y'all took a couple quotes out of their context
Starting point is 00:41:12 And flipped it cut out the important parts And conveniently left them missing And even then it still didn't sound That aggressive shit If you thought that was radical Then we got different definitions And you go and compare him The George Floyd
Starting point is 00:41:25 Because he was a father too Fucking old boy What a one. wild thing to say. I don't got to even explain. It's two way different things. This shit is not even the same. You can't trust someone that you don't personally know, so I can never say for sure
Starting point is 00:41:38 that Charlie Kirk would be my bro. But if I were to go off of reputation alone, I would never fucking let George Floyd into my home. And it's got nothing to do with his race or skin complexion. Nah, it's more to do with his lengthy criminal record. Yeah, it's more because the drug possessions and the
Starting point is 00:41:54 robberies and home invasions, I would trust them less around my property. We should make a mockery of him. I acknowledge that just because he was a criminal we shouldn't pile on that. I won't say I'm glad that he's dead or claimed he deserved it but don't act like for one second that this was the same person. Just check out the
Starting point is 00:42:10 reactions to their deaths. Quite the opposite. Look what y'all did and look at our response to it. Instead of riots in the streets we pray quietly in peace. We never let our emotions go. We tied him to a leash. We never flipped and flew off the handle and got shitty and left the town crawling with vandals
Starting point is 00:42:26 and cops spitting. Shit was gritty. What we saw on the channels was not pretty The only thing we burned was candles Not cities So get the fuck out of my face With all these comparisons Y'all are embarrassing We can't even call you Americans
Starting point is 00:42:39 You follow a narrative Such a typical situation The minute something changes These liberals switch their places There's something wrong with you If you celebrated is death You say the right is full of spite But there's hell of hate on the left
Starting point is 00:42:50 It's weird It's almost like this shit melted away your stress I never saw somebody dying And felt elated or blessed But it makes sense Your party's been stirring this shit. There's countless videos of politicians encouraging this. See, they rile up their base until they pile up their hatred.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And now look, all of a sudden, gun violence is their favorite. The minute Jimmy Kimmel got pulled from the air at night, the First Amendment became the left's most sacred cherished right. Now, no one should be punished for their words. It's so important. You're right. Imagine being murdered for it. You know, I feel like my music has been pretty moderate.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I never lean too hard in one direction or the opposite. Yeah, it's obvious that. I'm conservative, but watch my shit. I think I do a pretty good job at keeping my common sense. But lately, I've been giving less of a fuck. I got a headache. I'm so fed up with the left in their stunts. From the messages, they pump a bunch of pedals, pedaling junk.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I used to separate you. Now I just think everyone sucks. I'll never be friends with you. Ugh. Nah, fuck it, dog. I'm serious. How the fuck can you relate to somebody who cheers for this? Y'all are weird for this.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I'm done salvaging relationships. I ain't picking up broken pieces off the ground and saving it. If you can't say that this is bad, just degree it's heinous, then I don't give a fuck if you and follow me your hate this. It sucks. This shit has done massive amounts of damage and you know, it's probably exactly how they planned it.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Boom. Wow. Samson, amazing job. This dude is, I believe, one of the best rappers on YouTube period. I think he's better in Tom McDonald. I think he's better in all of those. And there's something that Samson does very well in this, in this song is he
Starting point is 00:44:25 betrays the anger. The anger. the anger in a way that is like methodical in the way that maybe a lot of us have thought about this and you know for for there's a lot of people probably is like oh my god he cursed you know what you got to get over that shit because I will tell you this in this day and age with the world that we live in and the people that celebrated Charlie Kirk's death the people that were elated by it just like he says you know and we've we've done this as well sure like to where we've had friends that, you know, the most obvious things that were bad for the country or the most obvious things that were bad for people and they wanted to celebrate this stuff. And we we tried to
Starting point is 00:45:09 maintain friendships or connections or relationships. It's like at what point do you just not give a damn anymore about these people, right? And well, you think about like my friends, example, they all live in Colorado and they are definitely all leaning left, major left. And I don't have anything in agreement with them, but how do I become and stay friends, not become, but stay friends with people like that that we don't need to. We disagree so hard on this subject. No, you don't need to do that. Well, I do try to maintain friendships.
Starting point is 00:45:41 So now I just kind of stay out of the political things. And if they post something about their children or, you know, things that are going on good in their life, somebody's getting married or whatever, I'll like it. And I just scroll past the negativity. Yeah. well and and i think samson and his name is s a m s o n i guys please go and subscribe to this guy get him the most amount of love you possibly can go share this video with every single person you can possibly share it to go put it on your social media is go do whatever you can because people like
Starting point is 00:46:12 samson need the support they need for people to hear this messaging and because this is the messaging that is true this is what people feel right now this is what people are pissed off about and at the very last part of this song he says this is exactly what they want it yeah they want divide they do and and and and there there is a lot of divide now who is at fault for this divide that's a good question right we we've talked about it many times but you know at the on the same token is like how do you respond to divide how do you respond to your enemies so there's a lot of people also saying that trump's going to go pretty hardcore right now he's going he's sending an ICE, he's sent a national guard.
Starting point is 00:46:52 He's going to go hardcore. He's going to make sure that people like Nick Sorter that got arrested are going to be protected. You know, they're not going to be the ones that are going to be thrown in jail because the leftist psycho ideology and they're using their Antifa police to put people like us in jail. And so at what point do you have to start caring about who's there for you rather than trying to pick and pull for every little.
Starting point is 00:47:20 little thing that maybe this could go bad for us. Now, there are two stories of this, right? I mean, because if we're not careful, this could go bad for us, but then we got to ask ourselves, do we trust Trump? Do we trust the Trump administration? And there's been a lot of people that have said, like, you know, the Epstein thing and all this stuff, you know, there's been some trust lost, but has it been lost the same as the Democrats? Has it been lost the same as Biden? Has it been lost the same as Obama? Hell no. They are. the deep state. They are controlled puppets of the deep state. And although I do think that there are things that are in motion right now that are coming
Starting point is 00:48:00 into Trump's circle that Trump maybe doesn't realize that they're trying to use him because he has the power. He has the control. I do believe that. I do believe that the deep state and the globalist are using Trump. And I believe that I hope that there are people around Trump. to where they're going to be smart enough to make sure that he is not going to go down that hole of a way to set up complete and utter censorship of complete and utter surveillance because he has all this control, all this momentum, all this power. We need Trump and his administration to work for the people.
Starting point is 00:48:43 We need him to fight the deep state. The same people that came after him, we need him to understand fully that the same same people that are also in your same rooms at some points. Sam Altman's, Larry Ellison's, Peter Thiel, all these people. A lot of these people were not on your side before you got elected. And now they're all up in your room. They're all up in your room. They're saying, oh, we're going to invest this amount of money and this amount of money.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Trump and your team, be smart. Be smarter. I don't give a damn about $500 billion investments or any of this shit. You have to be smart for the people right now. the people are the most important. Our future is the most important. And in this world right now, I'm very scared, guys. I mean, even with podcasts like ours,
Starting point is 00:49:31 like are we even going to be able to talk a year from now, depending on how this shit shapes up? Are we going to be able to talk three years from now? We don't know, but we have to make sure that Trump realizes and understands that the people that are surrounding him right now that are making major investments are the people that are also mostly on the deep state's side. They're not on your side.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Yeah, they're going to give you this bump in massive revenue for the United States of America. They're going to give you these $500 billion plus investments. They're going to do all these. They're going to say a lot of shit too. We're not going to censor. We're not going to do all this stuff. They're all lying to you, though. They're lying to you completely, but they're also going to use you.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Okay. So let's talk about these sanctuary cities, for example, in these places where we have all these massive protests where they're going and blocking the ice from doing what they're doing, what do you think as president in the United States Trump should do without making you feel like it's becoming a military state or a state where it's going to be all governance around all people and there's no free stuff around? I don't disagree with what Trump's doing so far when it comes to this. I don't, as of right now.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I actually don't think if I was president, I don't think he's doing enough yet. to make sure that like if your citizens, you are, your number one goal number one, keeping in mind as I just went on that tangent, your number one priority is your citizens of America, nobody else. So what says if he's going to come out and bring National Guard and bring military into the states that this is the right thing to do because like the left are saying, oh, we're going to become a military state in general if we allow this to happen. And if we allow him to come into each city or each state where we have protests going on.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Well, listen. You know, because you go against that a lot, Chad. No, I don't know. Freedom of speech. No. With freedom of protests, all that. Well, hold on. Listen.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Let's, let's break it all down for a second. Let's do. You have, during the Biden-Harris administration, you had wide open borders that had cartel members, Trindar, Wagra. You had Chinese nationalist. which are likely connected to government. You had Iranian nationalists, which are also likely connected to IRGC.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You have all of these people, including Russians, including all of these people that are, for what most people believe, are enemies. The cartel are enemies to everyone except for themselves. And so when you have this happening and unfolding under the Biden-Harris administration, and then on top of that, you have foundations like George Soros, Open Society,
Starting point is 00:52:11 and other New World Order foundations that are electing officials inside of the United States to protect. protect these people, which are basically a army that they are letting into the United States to invade the United States or America, to then cause chaos and disrupt everything that America stood for to basically overthrow America. You have an invasion. We knew we had an invasion over the past four years.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So where does, like, when do you as a government get involved? Because you can say, well, we close the border, but what do you do about the people that are already in? which we let through the entire time. And I'm not even saying just the violent criminals, but I'm saying anyone that's an illegal immigrant, should they be deported? Yes, they should.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I believe so. I mean, I hate to say that. And the reason I say that is because, you know, if you go to a lot of countries, I mean, go being illegal in Russia or somewhere else. I mean, you're going to be deported. There are some countries that were you're, They will imprison you and do all kinds of shit.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Now, as a Christian, as someone I believe in Jesus, right? I believe that we should care and love for all people. But also the Bible says that we should also support our president, our leaders, our people elected in power. And the Bible also talks about that he puts everyone in place for a reason, including Biden, for example. Yeah. So Biden had this massive. border invasion that he allowed to happen. I think it was all leading up to the New World Order,
Starting point is 00:53:51 this one more government, which the Bible talks about. And there's going to be battles and there's going to be wars. It talks about all of this stuff leading into this one world government system that is talked about in the Bible. And so is Trump kind of this force in America that is trying to stop this? Is he a stumbling block, as the Bible talks about very often? I think he is. He is a stumbling block for the New World Order.
Starting point is 00:54:15 does this mean that the new word order is never going to be able to actually fulfill what their what their agenda is no it's not but it is stopping them but it is slowing them down yeah that's a better word and it's slowing it down it's slowing it down but at the same time like would you rather have right now a democrat in office that is allowing cities to be burned and and and for all the stuff to have yeah and people that say well it's only when trump's in office that cities are burning or it's only when a republic yeah because they literally incite and send out these people during the terms of Republicans. They want to make the Republicans look like they are the reason. This is the bad thing. But no one sees that shit like that anymore. So now they're having to ramp it up. At what point do they start ramping it up to the point where we have to, they feel like they have to try to overthrow the government.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Well, they've already tried to assassinate Trump. And I say they, because I think Thomas Crooks was a deep state operative. I think that he was a useful idiot for the deep state, for the New World Order. He wasn't Iranian. He wasn't connected Iran, whatever Israel wants to say and all this bullshit. He was a deep state new world order operative that was likely funded and coordinated by foundations and NGOs. That's why he had millions of dollars of offshore accounts.
Starting point is 00:55:31 He had a house that was scrubbed professionally before the law enforcement even got there. It was like a demo home. You had whoever killed Charlie Kirk, which was, you know, it was it was a bullet to silence a massive voice. And so some people are like, well, why would any nation or even deep state or whoever, whoever it turns out to be, whether it's leftist Antifa that funds Antiva, which maybe opens society foundation, or whether it's Israel or whoever the hell you want to blame.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Or maybe it's just Tyler Robinson, which I very seriously doubt that at this point, actually, to be honest. I very seriously doubt it's just Tyler Robinson that killed Charlie Kirk. But just say, there are definitely people out there like Candace Owens and Ian Carroll, saying Cisrael. There's not a lot of people, though, that are saying that, like, could this whole operative and narrative be an NGO, you know, like an open society foundation or whatever that has coordinated this attack? Because we still don't know a lot about Thomas Crooks. We don't know a lot about him. And there's a reason for that because, you know, now Trump's saying we are investigating
Starting point is 00:56:38 George Soros. We're investigating Open Society Foundation. We also know that George Soros's son he visited the White House during the Biden-Harris administration 14 times. Yeah, and he's taking over the whole foundation. Yes, absolutely, yes. And so what involvement does he have with the deep state of America? And I always say this is like although Trump's in office and P. Heggseth and Cash-Matel and Pan-Bondie and all these people, first of all, I don't trust Pan-Bondi. I know you don't. No further I can throw her.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Cash-Metel is probably the next on that list of not trustworthy, in my opinion. Dan Bongino is probably somewhere around there. but I trust Trump the most but Trump is being told all this like imagine your grandfather that you go to 80 something years old 82 and you're telling your grandfather shit he's going to be like yeah well yeah we should do this yeah I think so you know that's kind of the way I think Trump's mind is right now
Starting point is 00:57:31 he doesn't he don't have a young mind anymore let's just be honest Trump does not have a young mind so he's dependent heavily on the people around him that are telling him things and and how much influence Hold on. How much influence of the people that are around him can influence him to certain things? I think Trump's mind is based on he wants to leave a legacy of his people to remember him as Trump as the greatest president in America. Because that's the type of person he is. He is a narcissist.
Starting point is 00:58:01 He is. And he's all about that. And whatever money he can bring to America, that's what he wants. And he wants to be known as somebody. that stops wars. Yeah. But I think, I think Trump's problem is he is not looking at all this crazy shit that everybody's
Starting point is 00:58:19 talking about. Like, because he probably likely hears about like Israel conspiracies and, you know, like Charlie Kirk conspiracies, all this stuff. He probably hears about that shit. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:58:28 that's crazy. No, he's got a young son that tells him a lot of stuff too. I know. I get it. I mean, I'm not saying that he's not listening. I think he's listening.
Starting point is 00:58:36 There is a lot. I think he's a lot smarter than what we're giving him credit for. I know. I'm not saying he's not smart. I'm just saying, there are a lot of influential people around him, like a lot. And I'm not saying P. Heggseth. I'm saying people very close to him, like very, very close, like his inner circle, like his
Starting point is 00:58:53 White House chief of staff. Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller. I don't trust that guy at all. Zero percent. I think he is a plant. I think he does a lot, like right next to Trump all day, every day. I don't trust him.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Every time he talks, I don't trust him. He makes those speeches. It's just a bunch of bullshit. It seems like he's saying. crazy on his speeches. But there's not... I don't trust him. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:16 There's something about him that is weird. Same way. Pam Bondi was, you know, she was a Florida AG during, well, around the same time that Epstein stuff was going on. Now, she wasn't AG when they gave the deal to Epstein in Florida. But she came right after. We got to remember he originally wanted Matt Gates. And Matt Gates did not work out.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So that's why Pam Bondi is in. And Matt Gates was anti-Israel, too. Like, he called out a lot of the Israel stuff. And so they- Oh, and he's got his own podcast now, and he does call it out a lot. Well, he has a show. He has a television show, too. But also, so we have a lawsuit as well. So Portland police, we already talked about this.
Starting point is 00:59:55 They are, they are filing suit. And it says the circumstances given rise to the claim. The overall context of dispute is one in which the defendant Wheeler, with the assistance of the other name defendants has repeatedly misused his authority as Portland Police Commissioner to protect individuals violating the laws of Oregon. So this was the response. And then you have the actual lawsuit. Now the lawsuit, which this was Laura Trump went on with Secretary Nome.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And she had asked Secretary Nome, what do you think about this lawsuit with these, I guess, woke judges? And this is what she had to say. Listen. Well, speaking of Portland, Oregon and the city of Portland have sued to block the president sending in the national. Guard. They claim that the ICE protests have been very small, that there have been no arrest since June, but the White House cited 26 federal cases for alleged arson and assaults against law enforcement. So maybe you want to take a moment and refresh people's memories as to why it's important to send in the National Guard. Yeah, absolutely. And we're not afraid of litigation,
Starting point is 01:01:04 Laura. We will go out and do our job that we will follow the law. We will follow the Constitution. and if activist judges want to sue us, then they can do that, but we'll continue to pursue what's right. All right. So that was Secretary Nome talking to Laura Trump about the lawsuit. And what the lawsuit basically says, it was an emergency lawsuit to prevent the president from sending troops to protect federal property, which is a pretty disturbing email from Portland Police Sergeant Andrew Braun, which is badge number number 56961, was included. And in it, Braun blames the victims of Antifa violence for their own.
Starting point is 01:01:39 own assaults and attacks. Braun claims that the journalist, Cately Davis Court, citizen journalist, Honey Badge Mom, and conservative activist, Ryan D. Amateur, are somehow responsible
Starting point is 01:01:51 for being attacked by protesters. He falsely labels Davis Court and Shelley Boshafi as counter-protesters and accused them of trespassing on federal property. And so in reality,
Starting point is 01:02:06 the journalists stay near or on federal property because they were on a public Street in Portland. The Portland police will not bother to investigate if they are assaulted or robbed. Sergeant Braun is especially parroted in Antifa talking points, which justify violence against those they deem unwelcome in public areas. They lay claim to, and Antifa regularly argues that anyone they label as an antagonizer, i.e. the press, is fair game for violent retaliation.
Starting point is 01:02:31 The leadership mindset or policy helps explain why Portland police have systematically failed to protect conservatives from being beaten or robbed by Antifa and the violent far left over the years. And we've seen this for so long. Like if you are someone on the right and you protect yourself from the left, you are going to be put in jail. If you are someone on the left and you do something to the right, you are going to be celebrated. I mean, that is the way of this world. That is where we are living in today's society. And so although we have all of these things,
Starting point is 01:03:06 which we'll get to in just a moment with one of Ian Carroll's little post, one of his little dumbass post, which we'll say because he called us a little podcast, but he's a little bitch. Anyway, sorry. Oh my God. Sorry. Should I delete that?
Starting point is 01:03:21 No, I'm not going to. So everybody knows I'm struggling my fate. Well, you said shit like five times. It's fine. But I mean, where in the Bible does it say that you cannot say shit is all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:03:33 So this is one of the journalists. Katie Davis, where she talks about her being hit in the eye. She has a black eye by Antifa Thug, and they basically didn't do anything about it. Listen. That is quite a shiner. You are right? Oh, yeah, I definitely have a black eye. So that's what it's been like covering Portland for the past four months.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Complete lawlessness. Wow. They say it's just one city block. Is that even true? That's not true. So it went from being a war zone. to one city block, but it's actually several blocks where that is completely controlled by Antifa affiliated protesters who harass, assault, and threaten anyone who they perceive to be a threat
Starting point is 01:04:20 to their cause, including journalists, local residents, and ICE agents. And the Trump administration is absolutely correct in deploying federal troops here because Brooklyn Police has completely abandoned this zone. They refused to go in. And, everyone that shows up is on their own. So it's kind of like Chaz or Chop was in Seattle. They just, I guess, secede this territory, cede it to Antifa, and they just let everything play out? Yeah, that's absolutely correct. So last night I got assaulted, and I immediately ran to a Portland police officer, hunted down the suspect, chased her through the streets and said, this is my assault suspect.
Starting point is 01:05:06 can you guys finally do something? And I had eyes on her for about 35 minutes. Portland police refused to come in and make an arrest. And I had three officers just standing there watching me try to hunt down this suspect. And imagine my anger when I go online after doing all of that about an hour ago. And I see Portland police put out a bolow asking for the public's help and identifying my assault suspect. So that is what it's like on the ground here in Portland. It's time for a federal crackdown.
Starting point is 01:05:38 The Trump administration needs to start treating Antifa like ISIS, the terrorists that they are, and put an end to them here for good. All right. So Portland police say they're investigating. I guess you had spoken to a dialogue officer. I don't even know what that means, but he did nothing. So I don't even know what he's there for. Does it kind of feel like Portland officials, I can't believe I'm even saying this,
Starting point is 01:06:03 but have formed some sort of alliance with Antifa? Oh, absolutely. I would consider them Antifa at this point. Why not? So their whole agenda is to get ICE out of Portland. So they're trying to shield the public from what's going on down on the ground. But I have four months' worth of video footage showing warlike scenes happening here. And none of that footage is from 2020.
Starting point is 01:06:28 But then you have Portland police chief Bob Day saying, oh, the videos that you guys are seeing are from five years ago. They are absolutely not. We have the evidence to back it up and how dare he do that? I'm a journalist. I don't really have, I don't really say this often, but Portland, please, she, Bob Day, you need to resign. You need to resign immediately and now because you are a horrible leader and it's time for
Starting point is 01:06:55 you to go. Yeah, there you go. So that was a journalist that was attacked. and keep in mind, like, you know, we have a lot of cops that listen to our podcast. Like, what the hell is a liaison officer and what the hell is a dialogue officer? This is what these sanctuary woke cities have done is they have created instead of police that actually do their job. They're like, well, hey, guys, you got to go out there and like protect Antifa. And just talk to them and have conversation with them.
Starting point is 01:07:24 No, no, you got to go out there and yell at the citizens when they're trying to upend Antiva protest. That's what these liaison dialogue officers are. They want to make sure they are protecting Antifa. And if they don't protect Antifa, they are going to be fired. And let me just tell you about, I think it was Friday night when we're watching the protests going on. And they were fairly peaceful. There was some rhetoric going between the two or whatever. And I think that's when the Tommy guy got arrested.
Starting point is 01:07:54 But anyways, when it was happening, we could see the Sally Port. where the actual ice facility is. And they have this big white gate. And you can see like when all the ice agents come out, they open the gate and they all come out together and push the crowd back. And as the same time, they had also the Oregon police come out from the backside. And we're like, what the heck is going on? Something major is going on. Are they going to like take all these protesters and lock them up?
Starting point is 01:08:24 Are they going to arrest them? What's going to happen? No. it took probably, I would say, at least 300 law enforcement. They all come out the streets. They get all the streets back in the corner, get them like safe away, and they arrest the Tommy guy. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:08:41 They arrested the Tommy guy. Yeah, he's, he's conservative. He is on the right. It took 300 police officers to arrest one man. Yeah. That was not even do anything. He had a megaphone. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:53 And he was saying, you know, arrest these people. and they arrested him. Also, if you guys have been watching the live streams, they will do these, I guess, targeted arrest to where they bring in large law enforcement, law enforcement presence. And from what I have seen that when Portland police do these mass targeted arrests,
Starting point is 01:09:13 where they bring in lots of law enforcement to arrest. One person has always been people on the right. Yes. It's always been conservatives. Now, what the left does, or sorry, what the, I guess what you can say the right does or the ICE agents or Department of Homeland Security, they'll do the same thing,
Starting point is 01:09:30 but they'll actually arrest the people that are doing the crimes, which is Antifa. And so they will come out of the ICE facility. They will see someone that has thrown shit at them or thrown a firework or done something or hit someone or abuse someone. They will have to come all the way out of Salliport.
Starting point is 01:09:45 They will go and target that one person and bring them back in the ice facility. But Portland police never does it because they're not there in that little area because they have been advised. do not do that, you go outside of there. But if you see anyone that you think is on the right, go arrest them. You're targeting the right.
Starting point is 01:10:02 ICE is targeting what they are saying the left, but they're just targeting people that are committing crimes. If there are people on the right that are committing crimes, ICE would also target those people. ICE is not biased when it comes to who's out there committing crimes. That's why you see a lot of these conservative or right journalists that are trying to talk to the ICE agents or whoever. And the ICE agents won't even talk to them. They're like, we're not on your side. We're here to protect law and order. and don't give a shit if you're right or left.
Starting point is 01:10:27 We're going to arrest you if we see it. Well, they did tell them, we're probably going to have to do tear gas. So beware. Yeah, of course. I mean, because it was the Antifa that was pushing so far up. And they did do tear gas. They backed them up probably a block. And then even as the ICE agent started backing up going back into the Sally Port area,
Starting point is 01:10:46 that was when Antifa just completely inundated the area again. They do it every time. But listen, the reality of this situation is that Portland police is arresting the right. and ICE is arresting the left because that's actually the ones committing crimes. It's not the, it's not the fact that ICE is out there trying to arrest people on the left. They're arresting people that they are seeing committing crimes. And most of the time,
Starting point is 01:11:07 they're actually seeing them commit crimes multiple times before they actually even go do a targeted arrest. You know, for example, there was that one reporter, Nick Shirley, which is on YouTube. You guys should go check him out. Yeah, he got cornered and they started pushing them out. And what they were doing, they were pushing them out away from all the cameras, away from all this shit. And there was this guy that was like getting very threatening with him saying that he's going to he's going to stab him and do all this shit. And then there was a Department of Homeland Security sniper on the roof that put a laser on the other guy.
Starting point is 01:11:37 And Nick Shirley was like, you got a laser on your chest right now. And you really want to do this right now? And he guys like, I don't give a shit about laser and he kind of looked down. And he's like, oh, shit. Now let me ask you, the same thing happens, though, in the Sally Port, like all the ICE officer will come out and they'll open the gates. And then all these cars come out, but they're not, like, they're not labeled cars. What are those cars? Well, I mean, you got to, you have to understand ice don't use like, you know, all the time,
Starting point is 01:12:05 ICE vehicles to go in these places. I mean, they have everyday vehicles that they are using for. So why are they going out? Is it off people? Is it people that are getting off duty? Is it people going in there? Because ICE is not just a facility to arrest illegal immigrants. They are there to do passport pictures and all that.
Starting point is 01:12:24 stuff too is what I heard well it could it be civilians that are coming out and they do it at one time that they're letting all these people out well it could be media it could be anybody i mean especially since the nick sorter arrest i mean they've had influencers that they've allowed into the ice facilities to document it from inside they've had a lot of people in there i mean it could be politicians it could be anybody so yeah of course you got to protect that route of whoever's coming in and out of that place and that's what they're doing that's not i mean that's not a very big a bad thing to do. No, I'm just asking who they are.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Well, we don't know who they are, but we shouldn't know who they are because when you know who they are, then they're in danger, especially from Antifa and the left because they want to kill all these people. And the reality of this is, is like as soon as you start making a name for yourself in the space of going against them, going against the New World Order, going against Antiva, going against this woke ideology, anti-Christian, anti-government, anti-right, anti-anything that's good, you are a target. Just look at Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 01:13:24 That's the exact same thing that happened to him. Now, Scott Jennings, he was on CNN. He's always on CNN. He had a good point. He always has good points. But he said, I'm getting pretty sick of Democrats calling a protest when Antifa attacks law enforcement and federal facilities. Very short clip, but let's listen.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Well, no, the predicate is that Portland has been occupied by Antifa for quite some time. You guys keep calling them protests. These aren't protests. These are violent people. They're attacking law enforcement. They're attacking federal facilities. The President of the United States has every obligation. to defend federal facilities and federal personnel there.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I agree with you. It is a disgrace. It's a disgrace that we have an American city that is essentially being occupied by left-wing radicals, and the locals won't do anything about it. And so now the president. It's not an exaggeration of what's happening in Portland. I see the video. By local officials has been described as something that's essentially happening in one city block of Portland.
Starting point is 01:14:17 They are assaulting the ice facility. They are assaulting the ice station. And it's not a perfect city, but it is a city. and something occurring in one city block is suddenly Portland is war-ravaged. Do you dispute that they've attacked the ice facility? I didn't say anything about that. I said that it's happening in one block of the city. So does that constitute Portland being a war-ravaged city?
Starting point is 01:14:39 I think what's happened in Portland is a disgrace. Nobody wants to go there. And yes, parts of the city are ravaged by the protesters. And federal officials believe their facilities are under attack. Even when there are a violent protest, which, by the way, nothing new about violent protests, as you know. So it's not new, so we should let it go. When violent protests happen, law enforcement has a responsibility to handle it, but would
Starting point is 01:15:01 you describe an entire city as war ravaged when they're protests, even if they're violent that's happening? Okay, so this girl is CNN saying, well, you know, law enforcement is their responsibility to handle. Well, they're not, though. That's the problem. They are not handling them. That's why they have to call people in.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yes, that's, they're not handling what they're supposed to do. And when federal agents come into a city to do. their job and long enforcement basically protects the people that are trying to upend and try to stop the federal agents from doing their job, immigration law, then that's when you have to send a National Guard. I mean, that's a very easy point to make. It's not to say that, like, it's a military state. It's not to say the infringement on your, on your rights.
Starting point is 01:15:45 It's not to say a military state. It's to say that if federal agents come in to do a federal immigration sweep, which is what ICE is supposed to do. and the local law enforcement is protecting Antifa and those people and doing the dirty work for the mayor and the governor of the state and of the city. You have to send in somebody as a federal agency to help you. And the only people you can kind of send in for that role is National Guard. So I just want to point that out. But last video we're going to get to.
Starting point is 01:16:15 This is Ian Carroll in his little video. But I think Ian Carroll is, I've said. this a lot. You know, Ashton and I and us in this podcast, we were supposed to do a debate and a lot of people recognize over the past couple days. We have not done a debate. Well, we did get sick. I was sick yesterday. I did tell Ashton, I said, hey, man, not feeling it tonight, but let's do it tomorrow. Did not hear anything back from him until like six o'clock tonight. He had like just posted a like up to let's do it tomorrow. That was literally an hour or two ago. And so, but then Ashton also said, well, I'm not really feeling a debate.
Starting point is 01:16:52 whatever and I get it like especially with us where his friends whatever we don't necessarily agree with everything Ashen's doing I didn't like the debate in the beginning anyways but either way I think Ashen's take on Ian in some ways is correct because Ian although he does have good points of certain things I think Ian for his like over the past couple of years his uprising or like how big he has got over the past couple years I think he's used a lot of people to get there and I think there's a lot of people that are kind of pissed off about that, I guess you can say. And I'm not even necessarily saying he did that with us, even though he kind of did. I mean, you know, he, we at one point in time was kind of his bros and then all of a sudden he's like, screw you guys.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And he kind of did that to a lot of people. No, but he screwed us when he found out I was pro Israel. Yeah. Well, probably. But either way, he screwed a lot of people. He's out for himself. And, you know, the only people he wants to talk to is people that are going to benefit him to go from 1 million to 5 million or 5 million to 6 million or whatever that's why he went on gerrogan
Starting point is 01:17:55 you know he's only he feels like he's above the atmosphere now it's like you know that's kind of his thing and but what i will say he has this point which i saw and i wanted to play this because there's a lot of people saying this you know is what trump is doing and the government the right thing to do or is there a downfall for all of us as citizens based on this and so i will play what Ian Carroll says here, here you go. Larry Ellison is on a media rampage. He's buying TikTok. He got Paramount.
Starting point is 01:18:31 He got CBS. He got, he put Barry Wise in charge of one of them. I'm not going to look it all up. The next phase is censorship. The next phase is all-out censorship blitz. That is what is coming. Okay. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Charlie Kirk was the free speech guy, right? Charlie Kirk presented a lot of issues for the agenda right now by the powers that be. He basically single-handedly stopped further escalation of war with Iran. We found out by literally barging into the Oval Office having like kind of an intervention with Trump and speaking his mind in no unclear terms. Charlie Kirk is basically the reason why Vance and Trump made it. into the White House and he went in there and spoke his damn mind about war with Iran and probably got it shut down. So he stands in the way of war with Iran. He stands in the way of censorship and he probably was going to be president. I mean, but we really, we don't know why he was killed,
Starting point is 01:19:41 obviously. We have no idea why he was killed. Probably just a lone nut. Probably no specific reason. But now that the free speech guy is out of the way, you know what's coming? Censorship on TikTok. banning of accounts, probably on YouTube as well, they're going to go after X, they're going to go, they're going to ramp up with the ADL, they're going to do everything they've got, probably more that we can't even imagine. So prepare yourself. We are not in the easy part yet. We are not already decoupled.
Starting point is 01:20:18 This is just getting started and it's going to get way worse before it gets better. And I mean, call me a crazy conspiracy theorist. call me a blood libeling anti-Semite, whatever you want to call me, a woke Reichster. But let's just say that we have reason to believe that Israel has done a few false flags in the past. Dragged us into a few wars, done a couple of terrorism, maybe even on U.S. soil. And they're very keen on censoring your speech, telling you what you can and can't say. And you damn well better believe they're not going to go down without a fight. They're not going to let this decoupling happen under any circumstances.
Starting point is 01:21:03 And so we are going to have the biggest censorship wave and push that you've ever seen. And we're probably also going to see a false flag or two. And we might see things even crazier than that. So just buckle up. Be wise. Be thoughtful. Be very careful. Engage with the internet in meaningful ways.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Well, you can. And don't give up. You know, don't give in to. spare. So that's what Ian Carroll's saying. And look, I understand what he's saying. From the TikTok perspective, yes, there were a lot of people that were Israel backed buyers for TikTok. They were.
Starting point is 01:21:49 And they are buying up a lot of media companies, which we've known that they are for a long time anyway. But like, what does this mean? Well, for us as a podcast, what does it mean? or for Ian Carroll, for example. Like if you're Ian Carroll and what he's saying is true, we're talking about censorship, but let's talk about it on a surface level first. Let's talk about it in a way that we can understand it
Starting point is 01:22:11 without blaming Israel for everything, which is what a lot of people say that people are doing. Let's talk about just from a censorship perspective. With these riots and protests and whatever, there's a reason why they are hyping this shit up so hardcore in mainstream media because they're going to use it for something. And I'm not saying that Trump is like, you know, in his bed at night trying to figure out a plan how to censor people.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I'm just saying the powers that be will figure out a way to utilize this as a propagandized narrative to censor a certain set of people that maybe are talking about certain things that they don't want them talking about. that could be that if you disagree with a certain facet of Republican versus Democrat politics or if you disagree with Israel or if you disagree with how they responded to Gaza or whatever the cases there is going to be censorship coming down the pipeline I believe and with the people that like Ian Carroll and Candace Owens and all these people are talking about Israel and you know keep in mind guys when I say we I get
Starting point is 01:23:26 messages from people that say like, well, you like to talk about Israel a lot, but the reality of this is Israel and Jews are completely different. They are 100% different facets of the conversation. The Jewish people of Israel or the Jewish people of the world, for that matter, because not all Jewish people live in Israel, they are not completely on the hip of the Israel government. So when I criticize or say something about Israel, that does not represent what I'm saying about the Jewish people. I don't have a problem with Jewish people, actually. I have a problem with people that are corrupt and piece of shit, just like I do in our own government, just like I do in Russia or Ukraine or anybody else.
Starting point is 01:24:08 We talk more shit about Ukraine than we probably ever talked about Israel. But it seems like as soon as we even mention Israel, we get a lot of backlash. We get a lot of shit. We get a lot of hate. There's a lot of people that do. and there was a lot of people that got a lot of hate for people that, you know, didn't necessarily agree with the narrative of the Russia-Ukraine war. There's a lot of people that got hate.
Starting point is 01:24:30 You know who those people were? There were people that were like, hey, you know what? Isn't it weird that like all the crazy far leftists, the same people that agree with Antifa are also having the Ukrainian flags in their bios? Isn't that kind of weird that are the same people? Isn't it also kind of weird that like Ukrainian president, Vladimir Zelensky was an actor? Isn't it also kind of weird that. we know for a fact that the CIA, the U.S. government, uh, started a coup in Ukraine,
Starting point is 01:24:56 not started, but also implemented a coup in Ukraine to take out a pro-Russian president and put in a pro-Western president. And then therefore Vladimir Zelensky appears. And then the Biden-Harris administration do nothing more than antagonize a war between Russia and Ukraine by making you, making Russia believe that we're definitely going to bring them into NATO, putting bio-weapons labs inside of Ukraine, likely even weapons, not just bioweapons, but also weapons inside of Ukraine. So Ukraine essentially was like a NATO country without being officially a NATO country. And this was on the border with what Russia and the United States has always known as their
Starting point is 01:25:39 greatest enemy in the world, which is Russia, USSR, United States. So the Democrats, the deep state wanted you to say, look, if you don't support Ukraine, which is what we're trying to do in Ukraine to basically overthrow the Russian government, if you don't agree with that, then you're a piece of shit. You don't care about the people in Ukraine. You want them to die. There's never any other facet of that. But you didn't get the backlash for criticizing as much of Israel and the United States involvement
Starting point is 01:26:13 on Ukraine and Russia than you do. Israel for sure. And so I think what Ian Carroll is saying here is that if if Israel and the lobby A-pack and all them are buying up TikTok, I mean, you guys can go for yourself and look up who's buying TikTok, how that deal is being struck, especially with the mass, the mass amount of people that utilize and use TikTok, go look it up. Like who's buying it? Who's the investors? Who's the people that are going to control the algorithm, all that stuff? And then also, at to Ian Carroll's point, go look up people buying CBS. Go look up people that are buying these massive media networks.
Starting point is 01:26:51 They're going to have their own agendas, right? And I'm not saying that any of this shit involves Israel, even the Antifa stuff. I think. But you just said it did. No, no. I'm not saying Antifa involves Israel. No, but in one breath, you're saying it's all Israel's fault. And now you're going back to Enstifa.
Starting point is 01:27:09 I'm not saying Antifa has anything to do with Israel. Okay. Well, make your point clear then. Well, I'm making my point very. very clear. What I'm saying is, is that I think that we are faced right now with a time that we just do not understand who is our enemies. We don't quite fully understand it.
Starting point is 01:27:26 We don't know exactly how or who are going to censor us. We don't know. Like for us from a podcast perspective, I don't know what one thing that we say on a social media platform is going to censor us or is going to blow us up. It all depends. It all depends on who's behind those platforms. It all depends on what the narratives that those people that are investors in those social media companies are about. What are their ideologies?
Starting point is 01:27:52 You know, just like we saw during the Biden Harris administration, if you spoke out anything pro-conservative or anti-Biden or anti-Kamala or anti-whatever, deep state conspiracy theories, whatever, you were censored and you were banned. But now we're getting into a weird time to where it's like, we don't know. because now they're saying you have to be anti-left. You have to be anti-Nitifa. You have to be anti-this. And you're either on this side or that. And there are people out there as influencers that are saying, you're either going to be this, a conservative,
Starting point is 01:28:25 which means that you are 100% pro-Israel. You are 100% anti-left and anti-antifa and all these things. That's not true, Chad. Well, it is because- Go to X and look at X. Everybody is anti-Israel. No, they're not. Everyone is.
Starting point is 01:28:40 No. No, the, what I believe as the paid conservatives are 100% pro-Israel and 100% anti-left. Okay. So then I'm seeing all the paid people on my ex. Probably. Yeah, because they're going to get pushed. Okay. Well, let's go back to that song for just a minute in the end of the song.
Starting point is 01:29:01 He said, basically, in short words, we're not winning. They're winning because they're dividing us. Yeah, they are. And let's think about this. But who are they? But let's just think about this for a second. Let's think about who they are. Let's think about the summer of love.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Let's think about Black Lives Matter, for example. Most black people didn't even want Antifa out there fighting for them. They're like, no, you're not going to do this job for it. This is our job when it came to George Floyd. But what it is, it's not even about the people. It's about the divide of the people. Is the government going to use all of the, for a way to censor us, to censor people that have maybe a different opinion on the government.
Starting point is 01:29:45 And I'm not saying that we are against what Trump administration is doing with Antifa or ICE or the immigration laws and we're not. But we also have to just make sure that this shit doesn't go too far. That's all I'm saying. Because at the end of the day, we have to understand that the government is working for us, what they're supposed to be. The U.S. government is supposed to be working for the people, not against. And I'm not saying that Trump is.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I actually think that Trump is working more for the people than many presidents in the past. So I commend him on that. Do I agree with everything that has happened so far? No, I do not. But is it much better than Obama or Biden and Harris? Absolutely yes. And whereas I don't agree with Ian Carroll and Candace Owens that everything is Israel, because I just don't think that's the truth. I don't think that's the case.
Starting point is 01:30:32 I do believe that we shouldn't silence people that want to criticize Israel. I don't think we should silence people that want to criticize Trump and the administration. I don't think we should silence people that want to criticize Biden and Harris, because that is what we got during the Biden Harris administration. We got complete silencing. We got complete censorship. If you were on the right, you were conservative, you spoke out, you said anything against the wide open borders. You said anything against the COVID narrative. You said anything against the Black Lives Matter movement.
Starting point is 01:31:01 You said anything against the LGBTQ plus trans movement. You were silenced. You were censored. You were shadow banned. That's horrible. It's bad. It's not good. And I don't think it's good on any side.
Starting point is 01:31:14 We should let people talk as long as they are not violent. As long as they are not breaking laws, as long as they are not doing things that are going to upend our sovereignty and our government and, you know, at an insurrection level, we should let people speak. We should let people talk. And I see this kind of thing going on, this narrative going on on social media right now to where there are these influencers that are saying that if you even question certain things, then you are a moron.
Starting point is 01:31:43 You're an idiot. You should not even think about questioning any of this stuff. And I have a word of advice. If you don't want people to question things so hardcore, you should not tell them they can't. Because as soon as you start telling people that they can't question it is when they're going to question it more. And that might be the problem. That really might be the problem. The more that things that you are questioning are protected, the more that people are going to want to rebel and question.
Starting point is 01:32:14 And whether or not that they are correct or not, it doesn't matter. The problem we are at in America right now is that we do have a very divided country, very divided. Who is the culprits of this? Who is the conspirators of this? I think, like I say, I think you can go and read the Bible to find out kind of who that is. the people that want this new world order. It's the people that want a one world government. It's not just happening in America.
Starting point is 01:32:41 It's happening in the United Kingdom. It's happening across the world. It's happening in Australia. We talked to people in Australia. It's happening in places of South America and Africa. There are Christians being slaughtered in Africa. There are coups in South America. You have mass immigration in the UK to where people can't even speak out and defend their
Starting point is 01:33:00 country and be patrious because they are labeled racist. They're labeled domestic. terrorists because they say that we should not have mass immigration of people that completely disagree with everything that we believe. That's the problem with this world right now. And I'm not saying that it's any one particular person's fault. But, you know, it's one of the things I said last night. It's like the more I start thinking and reading and seeing all this stuff that's going on,
Starting point is 01:33:33 you know, I think it was Ross. I actually said, well, because I'm not. I told him this kind of, actually it wasn't Ross. It was actually Nick. It was Nick. And I said, you know, it's like two arms. You have two arms. You have a left swinging arm and a right swinging arm.
Starting point is 01:33:47 And you might have a left swinging arm to swing in this direction and a right swinging arm to swinging in this direction. So they're different. But the entire body of that person is moving in one direction. And that body is the government. And I believe that the government is moving in a direction of, surveillance and censorship. And I think also the government is so underpowered
Starting point is 01:34:12 against the New World Order and the globalist that we can't even imagine. And I think that when Trump brings in people, and I'm not just saying Trump, by the way, the Biden-Harris administration was a million times worse. But as Trump brings in people like Larry Ellis and Peter Till, Sam Altman, all these people that are invested in AI, Palantir, when they bring in all these,
Starting point is 01:34:35 people and they tout this 500, 600, 700 billion dollar investment, those are just operatives for the deep state. They are operatives for the New World Order. And they are the wolf in sheep's clothing. And they are in the White House. And they're saying, Trump, we're going to give you all this money. We're going to give American money. And we're going to make you look like a hero.
Starting point is 01:34:58 And at the same time, Trump just doesn't understand what's coming down to pipeline. but guys that's going to be it for us on this episode Investigator's podcast till next time we love you this is riot by blood red sun and go check out Samson S-A-M-S-O-N on YouTube
Starting point is 01:35:15 peace up it's a lot

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