Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Republicans Lose Big, MAGA Fractured: Foreign Divide & Tucker Carlson Fallout Rock the Right

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Last night’s election shook the Republican Party to its core. Key MAGA strongholds slipped, and what’s left is a movement divided — not just over strategy, but over loyalty, faith, and foreign ties. As the dust settles, questions about the Israel divide, the shifting tone from Trump’s circle, and the media storm surrounding Tucker Carlson are tearing through the right like never before. Tonight, Chad and Sheri break down what really happened, what the mainstream media won’t say, and why this moment could redefine the future of the Republican Party.Check out our merchandise store

Hello and welcome to Investigator Podcasts. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Last night's election results left a lot of people in the MAGA movement asking questions about what happened. And in key places, we thought were pretty solid. The tide turned and it wasn't a landslide, but it was enough to make people question what's really going on behind the scenes and whether the movement's message is being heard

the way it once was. But now we're going to break down not just the numbers, but the why, because something about the election doesn't sit right with a lot of people. How did MAGA and the Republicans lose so bad last night? Guys, welcome to the show. It is November the 5th, 2025. The name of this song is Walking Dead by Wellness, featuring Blacktop Banks. And I got to say, I'm not really excited about doing this episode because I think what happened last night in New York, Chicago, Georgia, Virginia. there were a lot of key races that Democrats picked up seats or even the Prop 50 in California,

which some of you actually have heard the commercials on our podcast about Prop 50, where Gavin Newsom was like, vote yes to Prop 50, essentially expanding their borderlines or their congressional districts to be able to pick up more seats. That did actually pass, although yes, Gavin Newsom is an ass hat and he literally has destroyed California or at least help to continue destroy California as much as he possibly can. But then you also had the Virginia races. You obviously had the New York mayor race, which Mam Dami, Mam Dony won, whatever his damn name is. Mam Domi.

Ma'am Dany. He won against Andrew Cuomo. What a surprise that is. I know. I mean, you literally could have put Casper. That was one race, though, I was not good with. But after we were listening last night to a speech, I was like, damn, this guy has a really good speech. And I just wanted to say that before all these elections happened, you kind of called this, Chad.

You said everything is going to go left because of what's going on in the administration now. Yeah. You were right. You called it. And this is what's happening. It's a wave of blue. And the thing is, it's not even 2026 yet, right? These are kind of the temporary or the contemporary.

elections is what they call it, I believe. But this is the elections kind of leading into 2026. And it's a good way for Republicans and Democrats both to kind of get a gauge on what may happen in the midterms, which is 2026. Those are a lot of port and races during next year. And then obviously, 2008, we have the presidential election coming. And, you know, the reason why I said that this is a very good possibility that in 26, MAGA and the right may lose their ass with these elections is because of what is going on. in MAGA and the Republicans camp. And in large part, I hate to say it,

it is the Trump administration's fault of why this is happening. Now, we can talk about many things about why this may be happening, but let's just start with, obviously, it's something that we've talked about and criticized the Trump administration for, especially over the past few months,

is the Epstein files. That's an obvious one. There was a lot of people that believe that once Trump and the administration got in, that we were going to finally have full transparency. You have people like Cash Patel, that went on podcasts for years leading up to his appointment as FBI director. And during this time when he was on these podcasts, he was promising, even though, you know,

he didn't necessarily supposedly know that he was going to be FBI director. But he's like, if I ever get in the administration on day one, we are going to be fully transparent. And he even told, Sherry, you made a good point on this on the last episode, you know, he had told a lot of these podcasters that he had seen the Epstein files. And there had been files leaked to him that showed him that, oh, my God. God, this is unbelievable, guys. What is actually in the Epstein files?

And then obviously he gets appointed FBI director. And then it's just the talking head. He is the talking head now of the FBI, just like almost everybody before him. I believe that even still Cash Patel, Pam Bondi and the likes are doing the dirty work for the deep state, whether willingly or not, they are. And, you know, even Trump himself in many press conferences told the media that, hey, the Epstein files are. a hoax. It's all a big Democrat hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, just like all this other stuff. And there were many times also, by the way, that not just Donald Trump himself, but Cash Patel and Pan Bonny said, look, if it's going to be those Republicans that are going to

continue to ask the questions about the Epstein files, we don't need those type of Republicans anyway. Yeah, and that's just so sad that that is a way of dividing the Republican Party. I'm sorry, but it is. And when you campaign about this and you say you're going to do these things and then you don't do it and you backtrack and say, oh, no, it's a hoax. You didn't see any files. There are no files. We held up like blank notebooks with no files in them. Yeah.

And it was all just some big propaganda scheme. And, you know, we've talked also a lot about propagandists on social media. You know, it was something that quite a few Congress people have talked about over the past few months. Marjorie Taylor Green also talked about it on some podcast or some show that she was on talking about, you know, just like that we need foreign, you know, countries to register through FARA, we also need, you know, influencers that are being paid by foreign nations to also register. They should be a, they should be required to register.

If you were receiving money from a foreign nation based on influence in our government or our politics, then you should have to register. Same thing would go, obviously, for news agencies like Fox News, if they're pro-Israel or they're being funded heavily by Israel. same thing would happen if it's CNN MSNBC any of the others the problem right now is that we are kind of on I guess uncharted territory where we do have this mass push of influencers especially in a news space and in large part because of X you know if you go to your play store or you go to the app store on your iPhone and you look up X the app you know the number one thing it says all over the app it says the number one news app and yes it was rated the number one news app on both the

store and Google Play. And that is because this is an app and it is the biggest app that people get a lot of breaking news and all of that or most of the news that they are getting and receiving on X is from influencers. So as people like CatTurd and Benny Johnson and Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson, you name it, all of the big influencers on there are the ones that are disseminating news now. And the problem is a lot of people just don't know who is being paid in influence and who not and this is the big battle.

But what was interesting when X first became a quote unquote free speech platform, it seemed like it was the majority of Republicans that were on this platform. And Democrats are like, screw you X. We're out, gone. See you later. But now I feel like Democrats are back over on X and, you know, giving their opinions as well. So it is to appoint a free speech platform, but it's not a free reach platform. Yeah, yeah.

We've talked about that many times. And, you know, there's also a lot of people, too, you know, like the Ian Carrolls and all of those people that, you know, were with R of K that have now kind of jumped ship again because they felt like that they were lied to leading up to the 2024 election. They felt like that this administration was finally going to be transparent. They're not seeing it that way. And then, of course, you have the Republican, I think it's the Republican Jewish Coalition. They just recently had a meeting last week. And it was this big thing. They recorded every single speaker that came.

I mean, you even had people like Floyd Money Mayweather, for whatever reason, that shows up at this Jewish conservative coalition thing. And he was talking about how his heart is with Israel and that he defends Israel no matter what. It was just very strange, like why Floyd and Money Mayweather would be there. But then what they primarily used. this big gala for or gala, I guess you can say, is to attack people like Tucker Carlson. It was to attack people like Nick Fuentes. It was to attack people like Candice Owens. And it was also to send a message to anyone on the right or as a Republican that if you

criticize Israel, you are number one, anti-Semitic and number two that we will cancel and destroy your lives because they've said it. And they've had their little talking heads like Mark Levin. You know, Nick Fuentes did a great piece on that. just a few days ago, kind of his response to what Mark Levin said at this gala or this meeting, whatever this thing was. But Mark Levin essentially came out and said, look, screw with us and we're going to cancel you. We will destroy your lives because this is a battle.

And this is what it seems like it is shaping up to be. It is a battle in MAGA and conservatives and Republicans that you either get on board with every single thing that Israel wants and requests for or from the United States government or that you are no longer MAGA, you are no longer a Republican. And so obviously there are people on the Republican Party side and the conservative side that are heavily America first. And we're talking about maybe 50% of the Republican Party. So when this party, 50% that are America first, the ones that, you know, say, hey, you know,

our grocery prices are still high. The gas prices are technically still high. We do technically still have inflation. although yes Trump you know continually brags about all the wars that he has solved we still have the massive one against ukraine and russia although they're supposedly a ceasefire in between gaza and is still bombing gaza they are still killing innocent civilians and even just recently i think a couple of weeks ago where a reporter asked donald trump as he was about to get on to air force one and they said trump what do you think about israel that is potentially going to

annex the West Bank. And Trump's like, well, that's not going to happen. And then two days later, Benjamin Netanyahu goes on live television and says, oh, we're basically going to annex the West Bank. And by the way, we don't need the United States as help or approval. We are our own nation and we'll do whatever to hell we want to do. That's essentially what Benjamin Netanyahu said. But at the same time, we're sending billions and billions of dollars of taxpayer dollars

from the American people. And especially because the American people voted. in the what they thought was the America first Donald Trump president and administration, but instead we're still sending billions of dollars. It doesn't seem like Israel is really listening to Donald Trump that much as far as, you know, what his wishes are in the region. And then, of course, you know, we're going to build Gaza back. But not us necessarily is most likely going to be Israel that takes over Gaza, takes over

Palestine. They will control Palestine. And they will continue, in my opinion, probably to kick. out or do something with all the people that are left there that are Palestinian. So if you want to know maybe why the Republicans lost last night, this could be the reason when you have a stark division in the Republican Party, when you are literally meeting days prior to this election, the Republican Jewish coalition meeting, and you are attacking the biggest voices that people on the Republican Party on the conservative side listen to.

We're talking about Tucker Carlson is one of those. We're talking about Candace Owens is also another one of those. We're also talking about 100% without a doubt, which is what Tucker will say in this clip will play in just a minute. But Nick Fuentes, which is likely the most influential person for the right for anybody under 30 years old. I mean, you can argue that or not. The numbers will tell you that his.

Groyper movement, this movement that Nick Puentes has created, has a lot of traction. And so you can talk shit about them all you want to. You can go to this Republican Jewish coalition meeting and trash Tucker and trash Nick Pwintez and Trash Candace and Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massey, basically anyone that stepping out of bounds from your movement or from the Israel First movement, which is what I believe this administration has almost kind of become as this Israel First initiative, rather than the America First initiative, then you're going to lose. And if the Republican Party does not wake up right now, we're talking about the administration

that is in office right now, then they will lose bad in 2026 and they will also lose in 2028 unless they become a dictatorship. And so, you know, all these hats are going to go to waste about Trump 2028. So they better figure out something to do. Now, I want to go ahead and go over what exactly happened last night. Like who were the winners? who were the losers and we'll start there first. So last night in Virginia, the Democrat Abigail Spanberger defeated Republican

Winsom Earl Sears by a large margin about 57.5% to 42.3% for governor. Now, I will be honest with you, I've watched a lot of what Winsom Sears. She's a probably 60-year-old something black lady. and she is, I believe, the lieutenant governor right now, but she had ran for governor. Everything I have ever watched about her, I've always liked what she said. I've always liked her viewpoints and opinions,

although I don't fully know, you know, kind of like what she actually would be about once she gets in governor, but I can almost assure you that she would be a better governor than Abigail Spanberger. But then you also had Democrats that won the lieutenant governor and attorney general office in Virginia as well. And so this expanded their majority in the state House of Delegates, which basically gained them 13 seats just in Virginia. And in New Jersey, Democrat Mike Sherrill defeated Republican Jack Seaterlary for governor about 56.2% versus 43.2. And that's as of 92% that is reporting right now.

In New York City, obviously, you had Democrat Zoran Mamdani won the mayoral race, defeating ex-governor Andrew Cuomo that ran as a independent and Republican Curtis Sliwa. Mammami captured 50.4% to Cuomo's 41.6, and that's with 90% reporting. And in California, obviously, the ballot measure proposition 50 past 62. 64.2% to 35. That is a huge number about the amount of people that actually voted for this Prop 50 thing to go through, allowing the state legislator to withdraw congressional districts, obviously favoring Democrats.

And then in Georgia, you had Democrats, picked up two statewide utility regulator seats defeating Republican incumbents. So these were incumbents in Georgia that they demolished in Georgia very easily. These were the two elections that happened. And then overall, the 90s being called a strong win for Democrats and a huge loss for Republicans in MAGA. And so this is something that I've been saying. I've said it a month or two ago. And I said if the Republicans and Donald Trump and the administration does not start doing better on messaging,

whether it is about the Epstein files, whether it is about. about America First and the Israel lobbying, whatever, and stop attacking, especially some of your biggest people in the MAGA movement, and you're just going to start attacking the biggest names that influence people on that side, literally the same names you're attacking are also the same names to help you get elected just a year ago. And this is what I don't understand of what exactly they're doing. Now, as we talked about, like, what are some of the reasons, right? And this is the big one.

Like, what are the reasons why they lost as we've been already talking about a little bit here? But now, there was obviously a lot of voter concern. If you want to start talking about like why they lose and how and all this, there was a lot of voter concern about the economy. Cost of living, inflation, jobs. Now, obviously, during the Biden-Harris administration, they completely destroyed this country. They destroyed our economy. They destroyed our border. They had destroyed our military.

They had one of the highest inflation rates ever. So we can't, and I wouldn't, by the way, blame Trump and the administration for inflation or cost of groceries or any of that stuff. He's been in a year. And some of the cost of groceries has certainly came down. I mean, if you go to your grocery store, the eggs are not as expensive, the milk, the all this stuff. But it is still high. It's higher than it used to be, you know, say eight years ago. The gas is going down, but it's still decently high.

And then you think also about the administration and GOP. they were kind of perceived as distracted by the foreign policy, right? So things like Russia, Ukraine, especially the Israel deal. And then you have this shutdown, which is going on right now. That's over a month long. Now, I don't necessarily blame the Trump administration or the Republicans for maintaining their stance on the shutdown, especially if it is 100% true that they're trying to push through health care for illegals and all this other BS, including, by the way,

they're still trying to fund in other ways like they used to fund through USAID all this other craziness. I mean, they're still trying to do these trans initiatives in Africa and South America. Even in this bill, they're also wanting to push through with the illegal health care. And then so there was a lot of MAGA-aligned voters basically that skipped races when Trump wasn't on a ballot. And they don't really like the way the Republican Party is right now. They see the Republican Party and some of their biggest leaders, calling out people that are just criticizing Israel or foreign money or foreign lobbying. And this is what we used to see with Biden and Harris.

It wasn't necessarily as big with Biden and Harris as far as Israel goes. But what was the one thing the Republicans were heavily calling out during that? It was the Russia-Ukraine war. And in specific, it was about how much money the United States was funding Ukraine. And why are we giving billions and billions and billions of dollars to Ukraine? Now, there are a lot of Republican voters that still identifies, strongly with America first. You know, that, that is, that is something that a lot of Republican voters said, look,

this is going to be my line in the sand. We have to bring somebody back in office that is here for us and not other countries. They're here for us as American citizens. And like, let's start funding us. Like, let's start taking care of our, of our veterans that are homeless or the veterans that are killing themselves on an everyday basis because of the wars that are a military industrial complex and the neocons got us in. but yet now a lot of these veterans are back.

They suffer from, you know, all kinds of mental issues and physical issues. I know many of them. And yet we don't give a shit about them. We let them starve and be on the streets and get on drugs. But instead, what we want to do is make sure that Israel is taken care of and that Ukraine is being funded and all this other stuff's going on. And then also the administration now declaring the, you know, as we said, the Epstein files, all a hoax. And at the same time, they're condemning anyone who positions America first and way that's critical of Israel, or I guess you can say the established U.S. Israel axis, as they say, right?

And so this could definitely shift the alienating base. This is going to alienate the core base of who really got Trump in, which is the America First base. And could voters who came in the GOP because of the nationalist themes now fill the party is kind of pivoting away from that, right? They believe that this party stood for America first. And now they believe that it is complete opposite, right? Well, and there's a lot of libertarians that actually voted for Trump during the last election. And, you know, I've actually had some arguments with some of them. And, you know, they defriended me because of it. And they're like, I would, you know, I have nightmares about this now that I actually voted for this man and look at what he's doing, you know, but I am still

on the stance where he's not done like all bad things. We forget about the good things he's done. Yeah. I mean, no, I mean, like I said, I mean, Trump has done some good things for sure, right? I'm just trying to, you know, I want to make sure that everybody understands like why and what happened last night and why 2026 could be worse. I mean, it could be really bad. If the Democrats take over the House and the Senate, which based on last night, there are a lot of political experts, and I know I hate to use that expert word, but people that are not necessarily biased to one party or the other that has come out and said, including. Republicans that say that based on last night, if something doesn't drastically change before 2026, we're going to have a real problem, right? We're going to have a real problem in 2026 to where Trump will lose the House and the Senate. And it doesn't really matter then at that point what Trump wants to accomplish in his next three

years. It will be, or two years. It'll be a wash. He won't get anything done. No. And he won't. And this happens all the time in U.S. politics, for sure. So, you know, I think last night's results were essentially awake.

up call, right? Voters were telling us loud and clear that they cared about the cost of groceries, rent, inflation, but also they cared about America first, right? They cared about not taking in and sending all of our money to Israel, not busting her ass and sending all our money to Ukraine. The same things the Republicans have talked about for a while. And so that's kind of how the messaging has shifted. And they've kind of started to say, look, it's not necessarily America first, unless you're Israel first also. And that is a problem with a lot of people. Now, if you remember, like, the America first crowd used to say that we're exposing the elite. We're breaking the deep state coverups and we're going to bring power back to the

people. And then the same time, you have themes like exposing Epstein, exposing networks of pedophilia. And then fast forward obviously to now. We're seeing obviously the hoax. We're seeing complete loyalty and even literally condemning your own voters for criticizing Israel. And then the very same time,

they're talking about like, hey, this America first thing, you know, it wasn't as important to us as you thought it was, guys. I mean, you know, we're here now and we can't not like, you know, condemn you for, you know, criticize in Israel. We're going to call you anti-Semitic. Same way, by the way that the left used to say that if you were against the movement of Black Lives Matter burning down cities, that you are a racist, right? It's the same thing. You're anti-Semitic if you criticize the nation of Israel.

We're not talking about Jews. We're not talking about because you were born a person of Jewish descent. That's who people are criticizing. Some are probably, right? Some of the anti-Semites. And I know Nick Fuentes has done that before. But we're specifically talking about the nation of Israel, right? So obviously there's this tension.

The identity that mobilizes a base, it kind of feels betrayed or sidelined, right? And the party is still Republican. I mean, it is still Trump-led. but the flavor is just not the same. It's not the same MAGA. It's not the same thing that people, I think, voted for. Well, I think the whole thing is that MAGA is divided right now. Yeah.

And people are seeing this everywhere. And when they're seeing things are not going down as quickly as what they hoped it would, like the prices. And Trump said, you know, on day one, I'm going to stop all these wars. Well, he didn't stop it on day one. He thought he could, especially the Russian Ukraine war. He thought he could get a day. done the first day. I believed he could. But I mean, here we are almost a year later and that war is still going on. That is part of the problem. And like you said, there is a huge divide

among the party. And then I think about, okay, now we're going to the extreme and we're voting in socialist that are Democrats. What's going to happen to the socialist money when it runs out? When our tax money runs out. Where are they going to get the? the money. Well, it's just the same thing, right? It's the same thing as like, ma'am, ma'am Dami, ma'noy last night when he was saying how they're going to do free travel, basically free buses, faster buses, free health care. We're going to stabilize or pause rent. We're going to do all these things. Money does not grow on trees.

Exactly. So he's got to get it from somewhere, right? That's the obvious thing. And he didn't mention how he was going to get the money. He also talked. talked about in his speech how he wants to essentially take down the people like Donald Trump, the people that were able to build wealth and business in New York City. He basically said in the speech that we want to stop the next Donald Trump's from existing, meaning that we want to stop or end capitalism. We want to stop the businesses in New York City from being a bigger business, from growing, from expanding, from making people rich at the top.

That's what he wants to stop. And so although, you know, a lot of people are saying, hey, you know, everybody, all these businesses are going to move out of New York and they are. A lot of businesses, I believe, will move out of New York. But I also think there's going to be a lot of people that move into New York. Now, are those people going to be good people? No, probably not. And so then they're going to be left with a New York City without big business, without

economy that's flourishing. And they're going to have a shithole and crime and murder. It's going to run it down. It's going to run it down. And it was so funny because I saw a post today and it was like a fake Donald Trump post or whatever, but it was still funny because after the elections last night, they're like, listen, these states are full, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida. If you want to move from New York City, you need to go back to California. Yeah, right.

Well, hell, I mean, North Carolina's full Democrats, a lot of them anyway. South Carolina is not as much. Florida's probably going to be full. I mean, eventually Florida is going to be a Democrat state. They keep screwing up New York and all that. Florida will be a Democrat state. and then eventually they'll vote for the same bullshit that... But a lot of people are going to start moving from New York City now.

Oh, yeah. Sure. Well, I mean, look at what's happening even in Austin, Texas, you know, especially after Joe Rogan left and other comedians and actors left. Some of those people went to Austin. Some of those people went to Nashville. And so what you're starting to see in Austin, Texas is that everything's going blue. Everything's being voted blue.

And so as Austin, Texas used to be one of the greatest cities in America, it was the country music capital. It was where instead of Nashville, if you actually... actually wanted to go for foundational American heritage, especially in the country Western kind of genre or just that that entire lineage of history in America, Austin, Texas was a place to go. And now it's just so full of people from California that everything's being, uh, everything's being blue-washed, I guess you can say.

And so you're, you're having an all-time high in homelessness. Um, you're having more crime. You're having a city that's unsafe. And eventually it will likely get to another Los Angeles. But do you not think to? like within states, when you immigrate from one state to another, that you should kind of assimilate with the politics there? Well, you should, but you don't have to.

But that's not what's happening. They're changing the politics in different states by people moving into the states. Well, it's because they're morons, right? I mean, it's literally because they're stupid. You know, they're like, oh, I got to leave California. F this place. It's bad. I mean, they look around them and there's homeless people everywhere.

There's people on drugs that are literally bending over like zombies. I mean, and then even in those cases, like when someone gets shot or killed or mugged or whatever, cops show up an hour later if they show up. And then they go to somewhere else and they're like, you know what? I'm voting Democrat. I love what this guy's saying. And then a year or two or three later, they're like, how the hell did Austin get this bad? I'm going to move to Florida. And then Florida three years later gets to be a shit hole.

And it's like these people don't get it. Right. Now, unfortunately, I hate this because, look, I want to make something very clear because I know that a lot of our listeners are, you know, conservative, Republican, as I have been most of my life. And I, at this point, I don't know what I am, to be honest. I definitely know I'm not a Democrat. I know my core foundational conservative beliefs and values are still that of a conservative, what I would have voted for 15 years ago. but with the exception of that 15 years ago, I wasn't wise to things like neocons and foreign wars and military industrial complex and all the things that we see of how corrupt there are, or there is a corruption in the Republican Party, right? But I'm just saying just the very core foundational things.

There are certain things I align with more on the conservative side than I do the left, right? And there's a lot of things obviously on the extreme left that I one, like pretty much everything on the extreme left I disagree with. with. The extreme right, I guess, is funny because you're technically extreme right now. If you are critical of Israel or you believe that the Epstein file should be released because we want to know actually who, Jeffrey Epstein, which was likely an agent with intelligence, whether as Mossad, CI, or both, you're considered extreme. Yeah. And some people would say you're teeter tottering. Teeter tottering, is that a word, on the anti-Semitic side, Chad.

I mean, a lot of people might call you that because, yes. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, I don't care what they call me. But I think a lot of people would call you that because even though I'm married to one. Well, you don't ever admit that one we're arguing. I'm going to actually, you know what? Actually, I'm getting a divorce, actually. No, no.

Think about it. I'm getting a damn divorce. That reminds me. That reminds me. And I'm going to say this briefly. But if you guys have not seen the Dave Chappelle skit about. the black guy. Oh,

yeah, that blind, he was blind or whatever. He was blind and then he was married, but he was in the KKK. He didn't realize that he was black. And then one day that he, they took his mask off and they were like,

what, you're black? And then they find out that he was, and then he finds out he's married to a white wife. And then he kills her because she is a, anyways, that's kind of what it reminds me of, right?

Yeah. So that was a hilarious skit. But either way, I don't care what people call me. The, the reality of what it is is that this is not about Judaism. This is not about the religion of people that are Jewish. This is literally about what I believe Israel to be politically right now is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

And I talk about sheep. Maybe I should say lamb, right? I believe the Israel political faction, the government of Israel is a wolf in lamb's clothing. And I say lamb because it's biblical. and and I believe that they want the world to believe that they can basically do and get away with anything because they are the quote unquote chosen. And so what I do want to go ahead and announce right now, although I thought about doing it in this episode, is probably going to be a standalone episode.

It may be the next one actually. And I'd actually confided in some people that are, you know, people that are kind of in the Christian space, like big time in the Christian space. they do a lot of that stuff they're on TV they've done all this stuff I've kind of confided in some of those people I've just been reaching out to different ones and you guys probably know you are some of you listen to us some you do not and I've just got all their opinions and and then also I've been doing a ton of research and there are very mixed opinions let me say yeah absolutely but you know but some of those people I reached out to that they would never say this they would never say any of that

stuff in public right so whether or not they disagree with the way that the Republican Party stance with Israel is and kind of how all that is. Even if they disagree as a Christian in America today, you're not allowed to say that. Most pastors that you see, and especially most big pastors that are making the millions and they're racking in all this money, they will never ever tell you any truth about what the Bible actually says about Israel and the way that Christians are supposed to, I guess, look at Israel, look at the Jews, look at all that stuff. but the next episode we're going to talk about it.

And I thought about talking about this episode, but I was like, no, we're going to get through a lot of what we're, what we're going to talk about why the Republicans lost. Thank you, God. And I probably will not be on that next episode. But so when we do that because,

you know, it's just too much for me. Okay. Well, it's all good. All I'm going to do basically is read out of the Bible and kind of discuss it. And so if you're not on,

I'll bring someone on. It's fine. And I don't, I'm not upset about that. But I did want to, quickly read this text from Dave Smith. Now, Dave Smith obviously just recently had Tucker Carlson on and Dave Smith is also, by the way, a Jew. I don't know if anybody realizes this, but Dave Smith is Jewish and yet they call him anti-Semitic. And so I think that it's kind of

mind-blowing. And also if you guys don't- So, excuse me, I'm sorry, George Soros is Jewish. Yeah. And he goes against Jewish people all the time. How does he do that? Well, he never goes against Jewish people. Yes, he does. Well, I mean, he's a globalist. He's one of the biggest globalists in the world.

But, I mean, it's not like he's anti-Israel. He's certainly not. I mean, you've got to think Rothschild are the one that created Israel. So, I mean... He's helped with all the propaganda with Gaza and all that stuff. Yeah, well, I mean, it's probably to fund him some way and some shape or form or fashion. I mean, he has obviously contributed some of the, I guess, protest. But you also got to think,

something I said, you know, a month or two back. Like I thought about that heavily about all these protests that were anti-Semitic protest on college campuses, Columbia, Harvard, all these places. And I was like, is there really that many people that are just randomly anti-Semitic all the sudden? Like that, that are showing up in Hamas headgear and flags and all the stuff? Is there really that many people? And if these people are funded by George Soros, why would, why would a Jew be funding pro Hamas, protest unless it is to get everyone against Hamas.

Oh, like a reverse psychology. That's what they do. Maybe, but it didn't work. No, well, it did work. It worked for a lot of people. It just didn't work for some people. And now they want to destroy those people's lives. And so that's what we'll get into.

So Dave Smith recently said, he said a year ago, Donald Trump had seemingly accomplished the impossible. He had pulled off the greatest political comeback in U.S. history and what was even more impressive and seemingly impossible. He won the culture and the youth. The Democrats were completely discredited after years of lies and destruction. Donald Trump came into office with record high approval ratings both for him personally and for his agenda. Wokism and progressivism had been defeated and a New America First coalition seemed unbeatable. Last night, the Democrats had a great night. This comes after weeks of Maga being in a full political civil war. Trump currently has his

lowest approval ratings ever. He's about as popular as George W. Bush after two disastrous wars and an economic crash. The youth has abandoned him and many of the left wokest activists are reasserting their control over the culture. Now under the promise of socialism. How did this all happen? How did this administration blow such an incredible opportunity to roll back the destructive forces that threaten this nation's very survival?

Ask yourself honestly, no matter where you come from, down on, this issue. What is this all about? What is the MAGA coalition arguing about? Why have the youth abandoned Trump? Why do cultural giants like Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughan, Andrew Schultz, and a bunch of Gen Z streamers with 10 million followers all speak poorly about Trump today when they were doing the Trump dance last year? The answer all that is Israel, he says. Like it or not, that's the truth. Instead of America first, we got Israel first. If MAGA is serious about avoiding President AOC, if they actually see that as a threat that like I do, then we must embrace Tucker Carlson's visions that he laid out on my show,

be the first America first movement. Or we can follow Mark Levin's plan of canceling all of the most popular voices and running on the most discredited, unpopular neocon wars, your choice, MAGA. And if you want to know what Mark Levine said, or should we play Mark Levine or should we say what Tucker said the other night? Let's play Mark Levine. Let's play what old Mark Levin had to say.

Now, if you don't know, if you guys don't know who Mark Levin is, Mark Levin is life, liberty, and Levin. Yeah, he's on Sunday night on Fox News. Yeah, he's on every Sunday. He sits right in your face, literally, like right in your face. If you have your TV on, like for some reason, they put the camera literally right in his face. So, you know, I think he's got a little bit of baldness or maybe a lot of baldness. Yeah, he's got a lot of baldness. But you can always tell, like, if they don't powder him enough, because then, you know, you have to wear sunglasses to watch his show.

Oh my God. But anyways, this is what Mark Levin had to say at the Republican Jewish Coalition. And this is specifically about people like Marjora Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, and the likes. Listen. Months I've been fighting these bastards, whether it's Tucker Carlson or whether it's Nick Fuentes. And I've been looking over my shoulder looking for help. And you know I found nothing. Nothing.

We're here today to do something about this. What do you mean we don't cancel people? We canceled David Duke. Donald Trump canceled David Duke. We canceled Pap Buchanan. We canceled the John Birch Society. We canceled Joseph Sobrin. We canceled pornography on TV.

We cancel stuff all the damn time. Hitler admires, Stalin admires, Jew haters, American haters, Churchill haters. You're damn right, we're going to cancel them and deep platform them. It's called the market system. They don't have a lifetime job like a bureaucrat who we're going to protect. And if they're your friend, there's something wrong with you. No Hitler admirer, Holocaust denier platformer should be anybody's friend as a matter of fact you don't get to wrap your psych by the way did he just say that we're going to protect bureaucrats

i mean is that literally not what he just said republicans were going after her i mean i'm pretty positive that's what he said i mean i could be hearing him differently than what he's saying or he just doesn't understand what the hell he's exactly saying but either way i'm pretty positive that's what he said we'll listen to more you don't get to wrap your psychotic mental unhinged Nazi clan jihadists bullshit around American patriotism. You don't get to claim your MAGA and America first when you're lining up with the Marxists and the Islamists and Hamas and the terrorists. The cowards were surrounded.

And I want to say this. You know, he's sitting here talking about patriotism and America first, but yet he's literally his entire speech is against anti-Semitism, anti-Isemitism. anti-Israel and he's saying that these people like Tucker cross and Ian Carroll, Nick Fentez, probably us, whoever else, or us,

I say me, you know, you're acting like we're aligning with Hamas or or or or ISIS or some other shit. No, we disavow those people too. Like we disavow people that are murderers and and killers and genociders and all that. Like we would we would align against those people and do in every shape

form or fashion. And that's why we don't want war in Russia and Ukraine because we don't want Russians to die. We don't you want Ukrainians to die. We don't want Palestinians to die and we don't want Jewish Israelis to die. Right. This is this is a thing. You know, it's this is not about aligning with a certain group of people. This is about not wanting bloodshed, especially on civilians. Just the way that we condemned October 7th when it happened. We condemn. I condemn Israel's response and the likely potentially, we don't know for sure, but I think when this thing's all said and done, we can be talking about hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people dead, if not millions, when this whole thing's over. And yet we talk about the Holocaust.

We talk about that all the time. And, you know, he's literally talking about Holocaust deniers right here. But like, what is history going to look back on Israel on this time? You know, where you read the history books if the history books are accurate, right? that's the thing like 20 years from now depending on how this america first thing goes is whether or not the history books will actually be accurate or not and what is the history books going to say well it's going to say okay well Hamas this the shitty uh terroristic faction of horrible leaders in palestine went in uh killed 1200 jews uh or or people that are live in israel yeah it was some christians probably i don't know but then you also have the other side of the

story where 30 years from now we might find out that Israel killed 70,000 or I mean, 700,000 people or a million. So how is that going to look unless you just, you know, whitewash the numbers or kind of look over there's numbers? The problem is is that this is the reality. When October 7th happened, everybody was like, look, this is bad. We don't want this to happen. Is the response that woke up a sleeping giant for Israel? Oh, and especially in the United States.

But I want to ask you a question about what he's saying. He's like, of course we'll cancel this person and that person and this person. Was that not what Republicans were standing on is freedom of speech and not being canceled? Absolutely. And now he's saying that we're going to cancel anybody that doesn't agree with us. Yeah, for sure. That is a major problem. Yeah, but that's what they want to do.

Right now, you know, the Israel first, the Israel first movement, the APEC movement, the Republican coalition with Israel or Jews or whatever that thing is, They are attempting to take over MAGA. They're attempting, it seems like, almost a take over America, but I don't know, but they're attempting at the very least to take over the power structure that is in America today right now. And I can't help but think that they already have. And, you know, even looking at the way Trump, like acts around Benjamin Net and Yahoo,

when he's in the office or when he's in the White House, all of that stuff, there's a lot of weird stuff going on. But there's just a few more minutes of Mark Levin. And then I do, you know, just because Nick Fuentes did respond to this. I will let Nick Quintes respond to what Mark Levin said. I'm playing both cases, guys. Okay? All right, here we go.

I'm cowards who have microphones of TV cameras, who have websites, of columns, cowards. It's spelled C-A-R-L-S-O-N. It's spelled F-U-E-N-T-E-E-S. It's spelled O-D-E-E-S. W-E-N-S. It's spelled B-A-N-N-O-N. It's spelled Marjorie Trader Green. You can figure that out yourself. And they're not alone. How are we going to attack the Mondamis and the Talibs and the Omar's and the Sanders and the rest of them when in our own house this poison is spreading? We've got to take

care of business. We can fight the enemy on the other side. But the problem is, the more daunting problem, the more complicated problem is when they're in our house. Yeah, Mark Levin, you're right, but they're in our house. Obviously, not your house. They're in our house, which is America. Not Israel.

This is America. They are in our house. And yes, we do need to deal with people like the mandommies and the Tilibs and the AOCs and all those people. But that, that, the reason why we want to deal with those people is not because of Israel. It's because of America. It's because of our patriotism. It's because of our constitution.

And it's because of the men and women in our military throughout from 1776 on that fought for our country to establish America, not Israel. Okay. So that's what I want you to understand. And these people out there that are like, hey, you know what? I'm done with the, with Israel this and that and Ukraine and Russia. I mean, it's not just Israel. It's Ukraine, Russia. It's everything else we're involved in.

Everything else we send our money to. There's a reason why that when Elon Musk went and ran Doge and found out all of the money that was being siphoned and basically stolen from the American people to fund all this crazy democratic ideological bullshit around the world that America was like, yeah, get rid of that shit. That's not even our country. What in the hell are they doing? And everybody was cool with that except for Democrats because we're like, no, we definitely have to figure out how mice could be trans. Yeah. And we got to have Sesame Street that talks about that in different countries. But to me, what's going on with his speech is division, more and more division between parties.

That is not a way I would have gone about the speech like he's going because it's almost like we have to attack. We have to go to war with the Democrats right now. We have to do this. instead of coming up with a plan, much better. No, but he don't even want to go to war with Democrats. He wants to go to war with Republicans. Yeah, and it's Republicans and Democrats. But he's like, we got to go to war with all these people.

They're either with us or they're against us. There's no in between. There's no coming together. There's no, like, dividing the lines and intertwining the lines to maybe come up with something that we all can agree together. This is a fight against this person or that person. and that's it. And I think, like, with Madami, his speech last night, it was more in the context.

Like, we want to help all people because he even said in his speech, you know, I'm against anti-Semites. I'm against that. Yeah. I mean, he was against people that are against Islam or Jewish people or all of them. Yeah. Like he put everyone into a category where Mark Levine is. is just going crazy against one side or another.

But it's mostly Republicans. And it's mostly Republicans that criticize Israel. And he's calling them all anti-Semites. That's the problem, right? All right. So I did want to play a quick clip of Nick Fuentes. I'll decide if I want to play his actual full thing about Mark Levin. But either way, this is a short clip of a little bit of...

It's pretty funny, though. It is pretty funny. But I will at least play this clip of what Nick Fuentes said just about the Republican Jewish Coalition meeting, and he specifically kind of references Mark Levin in this piece. Listen. I want to talk about this Republican Jewish Coalition Summit, which was held in Las Vegas this weekend. What the hell is even that? And go ahead and watch some of the clips. It's all the most popular conservatives in America, all the most beloved popular conservatives like Randy Fine, Lindsey Graham, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, and I don't think there's any way to describe it other than a Declaration

of War. This was a psycho-unhinged lunatic, like truly delusional declaration of war by the Israel lobby against not just America first, but America. And I promise you, go watch Mark Levins' speech. and tell me that that's not what it is. Watch what Mark Levin specifically set in his speech at the RJC, but also in his follow-up interview. I think it's with the JNS or one of these Jewish media outlets. He did a follow-up interview, which was published, I think, either last night or today.

It was literally a declaration of war. And this is the group. The group is the Republican Jewish Coalition. That's what they're called. I'm not making that up. That's not an anti-Semitic trope. That's their name. And they held the summit.

And it was all about anti-Semitism and Israel and Jewish people being under attack by the right and the left on all sides. And it was a declaration of war against America first. Seathing, raging, unhinged, emotional. Yeah. So there you go. That's what Nick Fuentes. That was a nice response, I guess, that he had made about more. Mark Levin and the Republican Jewish coalition.

But I do have to say that since all of this has happened since October 7th, there has been a lot of people that now hate Israel on both sides. And I talked about that on the podcast, the last podcast, I think. I think it's both sides that now hate Israel. And you know, it's not the people of Israel. It's the government of Israel that they hate. And we got to remember that just like, you know, how much. Hamas is, well, Hamas is the government of Palestine in a way.

It's the same thing. We hate them as well. But what about the people there that live there? You know, we don't necessarily hate those people. And so we're attacking leaders, but in the same time, we're attacking the people of these countries. Yeah, absolutely. No, I agree. And, you know, it's innocent civilians no matter how you look at it.

You know, you know, the number one foundational core belief and value of the Bible talks about innocence, you know, and innocence is everything in the Bible, you know, throughout the Bible. And if the way that Israel, in my opinion, has betrayed or has portrayed the people of Palestine is essentially saying, it doesn't matter if you're a kid, if you're 8 year old, 6 year old, 10 year old, or 20 year old, you're a Palestinian, you're a part of that, and we need to get rid of you. I mean, that's what literally, according to history books that Hitler and the likes of Hitler and Stalin and whoever, that was what they wanted, right? That's that's they wanted to get rid of Jews is what the history books say. They wanted to eliminate the Jews, right?

And so in a lot of ways, the way we have heard talk about Palestine is the exact same way. It's the exact same messaging. they just have to come up with a excuse to genocide a certain amount of people, right? As long as we can just get people on board enough to make people believe that Palestinians are all terrorists, then we can destroy every one of them. We can exterminate them. That's what Hitler did. That's what Hitler did.

That is literally what Hitler did to the Jews. He found a way to get at least some type of populist opinion against the Jews to exterminate. and you know there's definitely conspiracies and not just even conspiracies but there's a lot of stuff about the Holocaust that are not that is not accurate I don't believe I'm not a Holocaust denier but I'm just saying like numbers wise and some of this stuff there are things that you guys can look into for yourself I'm not

I don't care necessarily about that conspiracy you guys can look into it yourself or if you have information let me know but I do know like looking into it there is some weird discrepancies there But either way, the message and the point I'm trying to make about this is that, you know, if Hitler wanted to exterminate Jews, the way that he did, which is how he did, how did you do it? Well, he made an excuse. He made these things up. He figured out a way to say, hey, here's what happened.

Here's why we need to do this. And he got a lot of people on board with that. Just like, you know, the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force, the soldiers that are now going in, shooting innocent people. We've seen videos of this. you know, they are people that shoot innocent civilians because you're IDF and because you are an Israeli soldier are no different than Gustavos and the soldiers under Hitler. And by the way, a lot of the initial killings of Jews in the Hitler days was not even military. Did you know that?

It was mostly law enforcement. The law enforcement under Germany was the main. ones that were executing Jews. Well, there were the ones going and getting the people out of the houses. And a lot of them were executed. And putting them in concentration camps. So anybody that is a denier of the Holocaust, like they're not my friend because I believe wholeheartedly that happened.

And I'm going to say my relatives were in the Holocaust and they died during that time. Yeah, I, Sherry, I get that. I'm literally making the point to say that like, you know, that's in similar ways. the same thing that Israel looks about the Palestinian people now. You can make excuses to kill civilians all you want, but in the end, they're still civilians and they're still innocent. And so I did want to play this quick clip.

Lindsay Graham, our old South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, which I have not liked ever. I don't know if you guys have listened to our podcast for any amount of time. Never liked this guy. There is someone running against him. I think his name is Mark Lynch. And I think that if you guys can help us in South Carolina,

spread the message to get this dumbass out of the Senate and get Mark Lynch in. Mark Lynch, I believe, is from Greenville County, South Carolina, which is not far from us. And I know he is the opposer of Lindsey Graham. And so I would love to get Lindsey Graham out. I don't know if you guys remember like some of the Trump rallies that he had like leading up to the 2024 election. Well, he went against Trump as well. Well, listen, but what I'm saying is that the Trump rallies where Trump would come to South Carolina and he would do things like in Anderson or Columbia. And every time that Trump would bring Lindsey Graham up, everybody booed him.

Yeah. I just don't think there's any way that Lindsey Graham can make it through this election cycle in 26 unless there's some cheating going on. I don't know because they boot him the last time and he still was elected. Well, that makes no sense to me. But, you know, this is just Lindsey Graham telling Republicans at the Jewish coalition not to worry about Tucker Cross and Nick Funn. and you'll have to see why but it's just it's not even the fact that he says not to worry about it is it's some particular what he says here that just infuriated me when i heard it and it might probably you as well also keeping in mind that lindsay graham is a war hawk he is heavily

funded by the military industrial complex the companies actually make weapons he is one of their talking heads he's the guy that goes out and tries the influencing and make sure people understand that we need war. We need to kill people. You know, that's what we got to do, guys. We're America. And so this is something he said at the Republican Jewish Coalition. Recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel. Why? Because if you got a problem with that, take it up with God. He's the guy that, did it, not Trump. So I just want to say, I feel good about the Republican Party.

I feel good about where we're going as a nation. We're killing all the right people and we're cutting your taxes. We're killing all the right people. And cutting your taxes. And he sounds drunk. Yeah, he does. You're exactly right. Now, you're exactly right.

I thought the exact same thing. I was like, this dude's drunk. But literally comes on there and says, we're killing all the right people, guys. I mean, come on. Who else do you want us to kill? Oh, oh, Tucker Carlson. We'll kill him next if you want us to. I think he is the right people, too.

Literally, this is Lindsay Graham. We are killing all the right people. Are you talking about civilians in Gaza? Is those the people? I mean, I can maybe understand Hamas, right? Or whatever. Or ISIS or whoever. But like, you know, 100,000 people in Palestine.

That's the right people because of what? They're Palestinian. Bullshit. I'm sorry. This is where I do not give two shits about what Republicans, conservatives, Democrat. I don't care who thinks of whatever I think about that. It's never right to kill innocent civilians.

And I'll be honest. we've actually got reached out by quite a few people in Gaza. There's one guy named Gaza Jimbrough. I've had a conversation with back and forth on Instagram. And he'd actually went on originally on the Bradley Martin podcast, right? And which I do encourage you guys to go listen to Bradley Martin, Gaza Jimbrough on YouTube. I want you to go watch that podcast. And if you do comment, tell him the investigator sent you.

But go listen to that podcast because the Gaza Jimbrough, you know, he's basically a in Gaza, he's a Palestinian, obviously, that, you know, he admired Bradley Martin, which for those that don't know who Bradley Martin is. He's like this huge influencer that is in the, I guess, fitness space. He's like a bodybuilder, massive guy. And so Bradley Martin had brought him on the podcast about probably five months ago, four months ago. And if you just listen to that episode where he comes on and he talks about his daily life, he talks about him as a Palestinian in as a person of Gaza as a gym bro, just like so many other people. But the,

but the very, the very things he said about like, we're people just like you guys. Like we, we have aspirations. We have dreams. We have hopes. We have feelings.

We, you know, when we lose family members and we see them blown up everywhere, like that kills us, you know, and when we have nowhere to go, you know, and we literally are in tents and have water in jugs.

And then when we try to go to the supply drops, we're shot at. You know, It's, you know, listen to episodes like that. Like quit just thinking one side or the other. You have to think about reality. And that's something I promise you guys that I will never, I will never do is just blindly follow anybody or anything. Well, I'm going to say a point against myself is, you know, as far as the food drops and stuff.

It was interesting when they had the peace agreement between Palestine and Israel. They're like, okay, after this agreement, they're going to cease fire and they're going to actually let the food trucks come in. Yeah. Did you catch that ever? I was like, wow. They're actually going to let the food trucks come in? Why didn't they do that during the war?

No, that's been a blockade the entire time. It's been a blockade. And then when people started to find out about it, they're like, well, oh, Hamas has taken all the food. It's not true. And then even the Gaza Jimbrough on Bradley Martin's podcast when he said, well, we have these air drops that will come over every once in a while, I guess from the United States or NATO or whoever.

they'll drop the you know these things down and he says we never go there he said the reason why we can't go there is because every time we do it is the IDF shooting at us it's almost like they're using it as bait to lure us in to kill us so they know they can't go anywhere near it and so this is what I'm saying is like we're as America like we're supporting this we are sending our taxpayer dollars to go and genocide a entire group of people I don't give a shit how you want to look at it October 7th happened, yes. But to continue to say that, what, two years later is it now? Well, and even if we have to say like, okay, listen, they think all these people are brainwashed.

They hate Jewish people. They hate Israel. And they want to kill people in Israel. Which not all of them do, but go ahead. A lot of them say they're indoctrinated. Well, I would say, yeah. Well, okay, that's the same thing as saying, well, because there are Democrats in the United States, we like someone should just all those people that we don't agree with.

or hates the Republicans. Is that right? No, of course it isn't, right? I mean, yes, I'm sure there are Palestinians that hate Jewish people because that's the way they're raised, that's where they're born. Are there Jewish people to hate Palestinians? Obviously, I mean, I think that's pretty obvious. You can't not hate people and just destroy an entire place.

Right. And then I think there's people on the other side on both countries where, you know, they don't hate each other's country. No, they don't. No, they're just trying to live and, you know, they want the war to end. And I would say that's probably 70% of the people in both countries. Literally. I mean, I say 70% of Palestinians, even though after all this, you're probably going to have

even more people that hate Israel in Palestine and that whole region. You're going to have more people to hate them. Could you think if you're a six-year-old and you lost your whole entire family and you grew up, you know, being an orphan basically and wondering why am I an orphan now? Yeah. And yeah, which you had no. idea like anything about Judaism or any of the, your six or your 10 or you're 12 or you're even 16 or you're 25 and don't give a shit about politics or any of this other stuff.

Like that, that's 70% of people there. And then you also got to think about the Christians that are there. You know, there's a lot of Christians. Just two weeks ago, Israel bombed a church that 46 children died. And I think there was like 140 people that died. And a lot of those are Christians. There was a lot of people that were working in Israel that were from. Asia. Yeah.

That were taken hostage. Yeah. No, look, I understand all that, right? We get the hostage thing. We get that's bad. We get all of that stuff. And we're not obviously saying that Hamas is good. They're awful. They're terrorists. It seems like, obviously, if you go into Israel and you do this, you're a terrorist. Same thing we would classify any other terrorist faction of people that did it anywhere. It doesn't matter if it's Israel or somewhere else. that is what it is. But it's also the same way as to say that like what was happening now is not correct.

And also just the push on America is one thing. Like if Israel is doing their thing over there, which America still should, in my opinion, America should step in. They should have stepped in long ago before Israel completely destroyed every single living thing damn near it in Gaza, not everything, but I mean a lot. What I was hoping that the United States would be like, look, we understand they attacked you. you guys went after Hamas, whatever, blah, blah, let's get the hostage back. But like, you've got to quit killing all these damn civilians.

I mean, that should obviously be a, a, at the very basis of Christian foundational beliefs, not to kill innocent people. Okay, but let's think about 9-11 for a minute. Oh, goodness. Just think about 9-11 for a minute. We went as Americans and destroyed people. Yeah, because of that. Yeah, do I agree with that? I mean, look, here's the thing.

And if you ask a lot of military guys, actually, I talked to my close friend about this the other day. I've talked to many military guys. And most of those guys are like, not, you know, they're, and I want to speak for the military, but what I'm saying is that there are some that believe that, like, you know, there was a lot of shit that happened over there that we, it should never have happened because of 9-11.

Like, you know, if, if you have, if you have terrorists, quote unquote, if it's actually Islamist terrorist. But just let's say it was. Okay, let's just say it is. was. Well, let's just say it is, though. Yes. But that still doesn't, there were a lot of things that happened during that time, even back to the guy that blew himself up supposedly in Las Vegas in the cyber truck, which I think they just finally released a report, which we may do an episode on that. Someone sent us that the other day. Oh, really? Yeah, but you know, one of the things he had talked about

was missions over in Afghanistan and stuff to where we were killing innocent civilians and didn't give a shit, right? And that was one of the things that he just like, I could not live with. I, many soldiers could not live with that. I've talked to soldiers like it was really effed up in some cases what we did the people over there. That should have never happened because of 9-11. Look, it's one thing to go after ISIS or whoever. Right. But then you also even got to get into like, was it really ISIS?

Like who was really behind 9-11? There's a lot of that stuff. And we know the government has lied to us. Oh, yeah, they have. But there was also a lot of 11-year-olds, 12-year-olds that had guns under their little robes or whatever ready to shoot our military. Yeah, I mean, so

if you're ISIS, if you're a political faction or you're a authoritarian faction of people in in Afghanistan, all you got to basically do is go to an 11 year old and say, hold this gun because someone's going to kill you. You're going to make sure you have this gun. So that's just a propaganda war at that point, right? And so

you have soldiers killing 11 and 12 year olds because they have guns, which is like some of the worst shit soldiers have to ever have done in war. And it's oftentimes because that, you know, war's dirty and both sides fight very dirty. And unfortunately, but I think that is far different even than what's happening right now in Israel and Gaza. It's just different. I don't think personally, I don't think the United States probably ever came close to killing as many civilians in Afghanistan or Iraq, for that matter.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's even close, at least from what we know of what Israel is done in Gaza. But anyways, I don't want to get all the way into the Israel thing because we're going to talk about that on a later episode. I want to play the rest of what this Lindsay Warhot Graham says, and then we'll get to something else in just a moment. Trump is my favorite president. We've run out of bombs. We didn't run out of bombs in World War II. So as a coalition of Republicans, some Baptists, some Jewish,

we organize ourselves around principles that we love and we cherish. We love individual freedom. We love entrepreneurship. We love capital. capitalism. We love Israel. Yeah. Don't want to mess your principles up there, Lindsay Graham, because we love principles, right? And but right before he's like, we kill the hell out of people. We're running out of bombs. We got to get some more bombs up here. Hey, anybody have any bombs out there? We need to, we need to go kill some more people.

By the way, next subject, principles. Let's talk about principles. We love killing people. able. God of mighty, dude. And he's drunk as shit. He's obviously drunk as shit. Like that's what's so bad and this is not even funny. It pisses me off.

I know. This is something we should be laughing about, but oh my God. I mean, I'm not even going to play any more Lindsay Graham because it really just pisses me off. I can't even play any more of Lindsay Graham. What I do want to play, though, however, is the Tucker Carlson, Dave Smith, first part of their interview because this is Tucker Carlson going on Dave Smith's podcast probably five or six days after Tucker Carlson had Nick Fuentes on his show. And so when I had saw the podcast

where Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes sat down and talked and I literally watched the entirety of the episode. And I was like and I was like, okay, everybody's trying to cancel Tucker Carlson. I was like, what the hell? Like I don't understand it. He was going against Funtas. Well, in some cases, for sure. I mean, he's like, I don't agree with a lot of views you have. No. That's what he was saying. Yeah.

And, you know, he was like, you know, look, I don't, I don't believe this about Jews or this or whatever. And he challenged Nick Fuentes on this stuff, right? So it's not like he was just like, oh, anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, hate Israel, hate Jews. We're on the same team. But the problem is, is that what they most hated is that Tucker Carlson, a huge name like he is, brought someone like Nick Fuentes on his show to even discuss and even just relate to more people. And that's what they could not stand because look, I 100% do not agree with everything. What I will say.

I don't agree with the way that Nick Fuentes says some things. But you also have to remember, Nick Fuentes is still a kid. I mean, he really is. He is pretty likable. Yeah, he's a likable dude. But he's 26 years old. I mean, he's literally like instead of you. hearing someone like this dude on your game chat from like 15 or 20 years ago.

Like when I used to play games on Halo 2 and you would get on the game chat and you would put your headset on, dude, you would hear the worst of the worst shit about your mom, your dad, your grandma. But I thought it was from 12 year olds. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like 10, 11, 12 year olds, sometimes 6 year olds, it sounds like, like completely trash talking your mom, talking about how they're going to do all these things to her, your mom. I mean, it's just crazy shit, right?

But like Nick Fentis is in some little way, like he's kind of one of those shit talkers that used to be on Xbox, which you can't do it anymore because you get banned for like having fun because that used to be one of the most fun things about playing games. It was just trash talking, especially when you could kill them after all this shit. Like that was the funest thing. But now it's like, oh, we can't do this. It's just, you know, there's too many hurt feelings here. Someone might go and kill themselves with like a real gun after this match.

You know what I mean? It's like we're a very soft country now. But Nick Fuentes in some ways, it's kind of like one of those people that you would meet on these on these games that would just not give a shit. Oh my God. Could you imagine him like as a 10 year old playing these games? Yeah, I'm sure. He was probably one of those. He was probably one of those though, right?

And so but Nick Fuentes, he definitely is, I guess, a rage baiter to some degree. But in a lot of that is because of his age. He has cleaned up some of it. it. You know, one of the reasons why was Patrick Bet David when Patrick Bet David said, look, I'm not going to have you on the show until you quit saying the N word. Right. Because like, it just doesn't look good on you. It doesn't like if you are smart, you are talented, but like, you're just discrediting yourself by just using these dumbass, like the things that you know everyone hates, like, why do it? And I understand Nick Fuentes, the reason why he does it is because

you're Nick Fuend does in his mind. He's like, you're not going to tell me what not to say. Right. But, but also at the same time, it's rage baiting. And that's also part of the reason. And that's also part of as the reason why Nick Fuentes has got so big. He has used these viral moments to where he just did not give a shit. He said whatever he wanted to say, he called out every single faction of people known to man. And they all went viral. And that's why he has as big as he is because a lot of people, regardless of whatever

you think, there are people that have their discontent with certain factions of people somewhere in them, no matter what it is, whether it's women, men, children, blacks, whites, Asians, Mexicans, Jews, Christians, Catholics, which are saying, but you know what I mean, like not saying, but like someone has something about someone always. And so what Nick Fuentes did was he basically just called out everyone and then everyone was able to kind of come into something where it was like, yeah, I wish I could say that shit, even though they don't necessarily mean some of the things. But it's like it's just someone sees Nick Fuentes as someone that doesn't give a shit. And that's usually what really draws people to someone like that.

Well, I think Nick Fuentes is kind of like a, what's his name, Andrew Tate? Mm-hmm. He's an Andrew Tate type person. Like, he doesn't give a shit what he says or what he doesn't. He's going to bait you. Which is why Andrew Tate's so big. Yeah. And, you know, Andrew Tate and Nick Fointeis, neither one of them are like real true white guys.

That's what's so funny to me. Nick Fentz is a white dude. No, he's not. I looked up his name. I made you look up his name. I know, but just because your name is from Spain at some. point in time or some shit. Doesn't mean you're not a white dude.

I don't know. He doesn't look like a total white dude. Well, either way. But anyways, I did want to play. I'm going to play this first part because this is essentially Tucker Carlson responding to all of the hate that has been coming on him, especially after the Nick Twente's interview, Dave Smith first starts talking and kind of sets it up. And then Tucker Carlson gives his first point of kind of, I guess, his first response to everything.

and then we'll stop it there, we'll break it down, and then we'll talk about something that's probably the most important part of this podcast. Listen. Without further ado, I could not. There is literally no one I would rather have as a guest on the show today. And partially because there's basically no one I enjoy talking to more at all times, but particularly this week when there has been this massive coordinated cancellation attempt. I've seen this happen to other good friends of mine.

I was right around when Joe Rogan was going through this kind of massive coordinated effort, but it did not feel nearly as vicious or at least as close to inciting violence as this one does. So, of course, we're welcoming to the show, the great Tucker Carlson. How are you, sir? Why, couldn't be better. Thanks for having me, Dave. Oh, yeah, of course. Anytime.

Obviously, you have an open invite onto this show. So a lot's gone on over the last week or so. and obviously it started. You had Nick Fuentes on your show. I had just had Nick Fuentes on my show a few weeks before that, but as has become custom, you have become my Human Shield once again, where all the outrage is generated toward you, but all the deaths are still my fault, as the Human Shield logic works.

But so there was this huge show that you did with Nick Fuentes. then Josh Hammer, as I covered on my last episode, wrote this incredibly disgusting and creepy piece for The Daily Mail about it. And then there was a big event, I believe it was Genocide Fest 2025, where the theme of the entire thing was that Tucker Carlson is not MAGA. And in fact, there were calls to cancel Tucker Carlson. And so I kind of want to go through all of this as best we can and respond to it. let's start with the podcast that you did with Nick Fuentes and maybe a little bit about the one I did with him as well, because I thought there were similarities between the two. And one of the things that I just find very interesting about this is that all of the neocon Zionists are insisting that you didn't see what you saw on that show.

That something else happened. That what happened on this podcast was Tucker, a good. read with all things, Nazism or something like that, when in fact, for anybody who did watch the show, what you actually heard was Tucker Carlson tell Nick Fuentes and the world that it is against his religion to hate Jewish people or any group of people for that matter. And so it's just there is something so, I don't know, it's just this crazy world we live in, but there's something so still, to this day, startling about watching someone go, my deeply held religious views are that I can't hate Jewish people.

And then the response is, look, a Jew hater. So bizarre. Well, right. And it scrambles the literal brain. And I am literal. I'm a writer. So I believe in words and their meaning. And I think they have nuanced, but basically fixed meanings.

And so to see someone lie or speak in a way this dishonest, but totally unmoored from physical reality is always bewildering. And you're like, but no, that's not, I said the opposite. And then you realize, of course, it's not about you or what you said. It's about something bigger. And there are a couple things. I mean, the most obvious on a political level, this is a fight over what happens after Donald Trump. What does the Republican Party look like?

Does it actually adopt an America first foreign policy as promised 10 years ago? Or does it maintain its neoconservative posture, which is very unpopular with the public and has borne no fruit? I mean, it's been a disaster on every level for the United States for, you know, since 9-11, at least. But what happens after Trump goes? And that's what this is about. That's why they're vesting the energy in this. That's what the rage is about because they don't want to lose control of foreign policy. I just can't say that enough.

It's about foreign policy. They don't care about domestic policy because they don't care about the United States, but they do care about the U.S. Treasury and the Pentagon, the projection of force on behalf of Israel. And so that's what they're arguing about. And again, that's a very unpopular position with the public, which is why they don't say it out loud. My position has always been, I don't have, I'm not ashamed of my views. I'm happy to talk about my views with anybody. I don't think I have any reason to be ashamed by views. I think they're actually kind of moderate, honestly. They're different from the way things are operating now.

And of course, I mean, I disagree with the direction the U.S. government's taking in a whole bunch of different ways. But I don't think we should burn the U.S. government down. My view, which I know is yours as well, is the U.S. government should act on behalf of American citizens, America first. doesn't mean a bellicose posture doesn't mean you attack people. In fact, it probably means you attack fewer people and you shed less blood. You act on behalf of your citizens. They own the government. They pay for the government.

It's in their name that all this is being conducted. So that's a really simple concept. It's the most powerful resonant concept in American politics. It brought Trump the majority of the popular vote. And I believe it. I sincerely believe that. And most people do. They don't.

So that's what this really is about. As for Fuentes himself, you know, I thought a lot about it. it for many reasons. And for one, Nick had attacked my family, my father, my wife, one of my children, by name, a lot. And so it's hard, it was hard for me to get over that, you know. For another, as I've said a million times, I thought he was a Fed. And I thought this was part of, you know, an op designed to tar sane, anti-neocon, pro-realist foreign policy people like you and me and Glenn Greenwald and Sachs. And, you know, but in the normal people, Tara says Nazis.

I did suspect that. I don't know if that's true or not. I raised that with him. But basically, in the end, I decided Nick Fuentes can't be canceled. They've been trying since he was a freshman in college. It doesn't work. In fact, he's gotten bigger. He is enormously talented.

Anyone who denies that is lying. And he has like a semi- not fully coherent, but a semi-coherent kind of position. And I would like to hear what it is because that's kind of my job. And I'm also interested because he's the most. most influential voice for men under 30 in the United States. More influential than me, more influential than you. I don't think there's any question about that.

I spent a lot of time thinking about this and talking to a lot of people about it. And I think that that is true. So it's not like I didn't make Nick Fuentes, hardly. I just want to know what this is about. And I wanted to make the point that I often make and now seems even more important than it ever has, which is that virtue and sin are not. transmitted genetically. There is no such thing as blood guilt.

Therefore, collective punishment is always immoral. God created each person individually. He did not create communities that once he created people, and all of us will die and in the end face God alone. So it's about the person. And people can be changed by God, by the way. And the New Testament is that story of people who were in the case of the whole hero of of the New Testament, the human hero, was a guy called Paul,

who was murdering Christians as a Pharisee. and then becomes the greatest proselytized from the history of Christianity and my personal hero. So like, don't tell me that people can't be changed because of their blood. Now, that is the basis, that position is the basis of Western civilization. We often talk about Western civilization and we're all defending Western civilization. Israel does not have a Western position on this question. The Israeli position, not of all Israelis, by the way, and certainly not of all Jews, but I'm saying of the Israeli government and of a couple of its ministers,

which they say this out loud all the time, is that everybody who's related to a terrorist shares in his guilt. That's collective punishment. It is blood guilt and it's antithetical to Christianity and to the West. And so for me, and by the way, Israel's not the only country that does this.

Most countries do this. Literally most countries do this. All of Asia, India. This is like an intuitive response that people have. Russia, you know, we're going to punish the family too because they're related, of course. Only the West, and I mean specifically, the Anglosphere, Western Europe, because their foundation is Christian, reject that explicitly.

Our justice system is based on the individual. People who do good things are rewarded. People who do bad things are punished. It's about the individual because that's a religion. And so I just wanted to make that point, not because of Israel or Fonters or anything, but because that is, that idea right there, that specific idea is the Western civilization we are struggling to defend. And its opponents are domestic.

The neocons do not believe that at all. Clearly, well, they are attacking my family. It's like Nick Fuentes attack my family. So I just wanted to say that. I want to say that in every venue because it's a feature of my religious faith, but it's also my inheritance as a Western man as the product of Western civilization. And that's what I want to defend. Randy Fine does not believe that. Of course, Lindsay Graham does not believe that, of course. So the idea that I hate Jews when obviously I don't hate Jews at all. Of course, obviously. It's almost and feels beneath me say that, but it's just a fact. But I'm not allowed to hate any person because of the group he's attached to. I reject. That's what identity politics is. It's the belief that people are either better or worse based on how they were born. And that is not a Western understanding of people or of God.

And that's why identity politics doesn't sit right with most Americans, even though you could like make a case for it. We need to redress this past injustice or whatever. But most people sort of know that's unfair. Why is it unfair? It's unfair because it treats people as components of a larger whole as part of a group whose individual choices make no difference. It's like you're black, therefore you're a criminal or you're Jewish, therefore you're bad. That whole way of thinking is evil. It's anti-Christian. And it is, that is the true attack on the West and on Western civilization. And so I hear people like, Randy, if I were defending Western civilization, oh, are you really? No, no, no. You're its main enemy. And And black lives matter. It's main enemy. And not because they're black or Jewish or nothing to do with that because the idea is wrong. So that's, I just wanted to say that.

I'm going to say that every day for the rest of my life, I will die for that belief. I mean it because it's my religious belief. And it's also true. There you go. And that was Tucker's response. Essentially, it was kind of his first reaction to everybody trying to cancel him, saying he's a Nazi Nazi and a Jewish hater. And he could not have made a greater point in her first opening.

kind of, I guess, monologue on the Dave Smith podcast. And we are not about identity politics. Republicans have always hated identity politics with Black Lives Matter, with the way Democrats that say that white people have guilt because that they were once slave owners and all of the stuff. This is what has been the core foundational belief of Republicans for at least a past 10 years. And especially since the Democrats has made everything about identity politics. But now it's like we're getting on board with what.

they're trying to tell us as the Israel Western coalition and foundational beliefs, but Israel is not a Western nation. It is not part of the United States. They have a completely different religion. And the same thing I said about Palestinians earlier, which I've said over and over and over again, where it's like you can't be born a Palestinian and be bad because that's not what Jesus ever taught. Jesus didn't teach that about blacks or Mexicans or Asians or whites.

or Palestinians or Jews, right? He never taught that. The main reason why Christians are supposed to be Christians, the reason why America was, in large part, founded on Christian foundational beliefs and values is because America and the West wanted to do it different. And when I say the West, I specifically mean the United States. Yeah. Well, and they didn't want to praise kings.

They wanted to praise God. Yeah, praise God. And that's why they came here. Yeah, God over government, right? And so, yeah, we, we never wanted to be about hating other people. And, you know, the Democrats did a, I think one of the things they tried to do very well was saying that if you have an open border, that should be okay. Because then if you don't have an open border, then you hate everyone that's coming across your border illegally, right? And I don't agree with that because, you know, the same way that in biblical days to where God led the Jews out of Egypt and which was in Exodus chapter of the Bible.

And he says, here's your land. You know, God specifically talks about the Jews land. But he also recognizes throughout the Bible, the nations. He talks about nations all the time. He talks about the kingdoms. He talks about literal borders in the Bible. And yet the Democrats always wanted to pretend like that if you had a border as a country, that you were evil or you were a racist, right?

It's the same reason, like, Democrats could go a step further and say, if you have a door or lock on your door, you're racist because someone can't come in your house. your house, it's the same thing. Yes. But so to Tucker's point here, though, is that just because you're Palestinian doesn't mean that you are born a terrorist, right? It doesn't mean that you automatically hate Jews. It doesn't mean that you don't have a chance for revival.

It doesn't mean you don't have a chance to become a Christian and a Jesus follower. By the way, there are a lot of Christians in Palestine in that area. The same thing with Jews. Jews do not believe in, or at least the, you know, the Orthodox Jews. they don't believe in Jesus as the Savior. They believe Jesus was a person. They don't believe he was the Savior. But do we say because they don't believe in Jesus that they should all die?

No. We say that there's still hope for those people. As Christians, we want them to believe in Jesus. The same way that we would say that about Palestinians, the same way we would say that about atheists, the same way we would say that about devil worshippers. Those are all still people regardless. And Jesus would treat every single one of those people the exact same, including is Israel versus Palestine.

Jesus would not look at Palestinians and look at Jewish people in Israel and say, yeah, we should kill these people. Right. That's not Jesus. That's not Christianity. And so if you as Israel, the nation, which by the way, we're going to talk on this next episode about what the Bible is not a Christian state. So it is a Jewish state.

They have different religious beliefs. Yeah, this is not a Jewish state. And keeping also in mind, if the United States wanted to come in. to Israel as a Jewish state, quote unquote, and we wanted to impose our political, whatever it is, Christianity, the fact that you have to basically. On to Israel. Do you think that would be okay? Absolutely not.

Because Israel is a state of Jews. It is a Jewish nation. It is one of the biggest nations of religion of any place on the planet. Well, you know that 11% of the population, only 11% of the whole. population on earth is Jewish. Yeah. It's a very small amount of people. Well, it is.

It is. I mean, it absolutely is. But my point to all this is that identity politics are bad. Hating people because of where they're born or because of even people that were above them, right? That's like, you know, if you're Palestinian and then your leaders are Hamas, right? Or your lineage.

Say we're terrorists. That's like saying that because you're white. that because, you know, 100 plus years ago or 200 years ago, somewhere down the line, someone in your family was a slave honor, then you are automatically a slave owner. You are automatically a racist. You were automatically a black hater or whatever the case of the exact same thing that we're talking about here with Gaza and Palestine. And so we cannot differentiate civility and innocence based on because they're

Ghazan or Palestinian or people in that region because of their color, because of where they're born, because it is Hamasas over their government. We can't do that. The same exact reason why Israel and Republicans all across the country and the Republican party has literal Republican Jewish coalition meetings and A PAC and all this shit to make sure that like if you even criticize Israel, you're not allowed to be a Republican anymore. You're not allowed to be a conservative. And you're not Christian.

You're not Christian. If you do not get on board with Israel doing what they're doing in Gaza, you're not a Christian, which is complete bullshit. The Bible, and if you're a Christian, all those Christians out there right now. And I hope there are pastors listening that have never, ever addressed this in their church. If you think as a Christian man or as a Christian pastor or as a Christian person in general, that it is okay for Israel the nation to kill innocent civilians because they are Israel or because they are God's chosen people, you might want to listen to our next podcast.

I am a Christian. I do believe in Jesus. And because I believe in Jesus, I believe that innocent people in Gaza and Palestine should not be killed, just the same way that I believe that everyone should not hate or kill Jewish. It just reminds me of the podcast with Tucker. And when he had Ted Cruz come on his podcast and he was asking him about Israel and the Christian belief of Israel. Do you remember that?

Yeah. And Ted Cruz is like, we are. known as Christians that we have to pray for Israel and we have to be about Israel basically. Yeah, but no. And then Tucker was going off on him about the whole thing. Yeah, but Ted Cruz literally said that the reason and the entire reason he ran for Congress is to put Israel first. He literally said that.

But then he couldn't even mention anything in the Bible or anything. No, yeah, I mean, but he literally ran. He said to Tucker, I, my number one goal. as congressman is to put Israel first. And everybody's like, what? Like that doesn't make any sense, right? And this is when you know, this is not about religion. It's not about you being a Christian.

It's about influence. It's about money. It is about control. Yes. And that's what it's about. It's not about your religion or that you believe in Jesus or God or any of this stuff. It's about control. It's about all the other stuff.

So to close this, if you want to know why Republicans likely lost last night and will lose in 2026 and 28 if they don't do something different is because there are a lot of people that are waking up to the BS and especially after when you as a campaign said we're going to expose everything.

We're going to arrest the people in the deep state. We're going to expose the Epstein files. We're going to do all of these things. We're going to end all these wars. We're going to end the most important wars. We're not going to send our money to foreign nations. We're going to do all this. And you're doing the exact opposite.

That's the problem. And that's why Republicans lost last night. that's why they will lose in 2026. That's why they're going to lose in 2028 if something doesn't change. And so, guys, our next podcast probably, I don't know if sure it will be on it, but our next podcast will likely be, I want to talk about the biblical side from Christianity and the Jewish Israel thing, right? We need to talk about it.

And the reality is, like, what I want to talk about on this, I've been studying for months. And the crazy thing about that is that. is that what I'll probably say, even though it's 100% all biblical, I will also give you guys the biblical stance on Israel and Jews on like what Jesus or specifically what God said about Israel, said about the Jews, the Jewish people. But I'm also going to tell you about what it also says, right, to where as Christians what we need to understand. And I'm not a pastor. I'm not an expert on this, but I have been studying this because I think what a lot of people right now are doing is because they're getting so, I guess, inundated with the Republican United States coalition with Israel,

they're not really looking into the Bible for answers, right? They're not looking into the Bible of like, how should we think about this? How should we look at this? And what should we be doing, right? We're always told you have to no matter what stand with Israel. You have to no matter what defend Israel. You have to no matter what do all of these things. and especially when you have people like Mark Levin at the Republican Jewish Coalition

that is essentially declaring war, as Nick Fuentes says, on Republicans or America, based on the Israeli PAC or the coalition, I think this is something as Christians we must talk about and we must understand because if from my perspective, and this is something I always say, when I don't understand things and I don't have nowhere else to go, the Bible is the only place I can go for some type of foundational beliefs, and so that's what we're going to try to talk about on the next episode. We also have some fun episodes coming after this, but I think everything going on right now

it's very important to talk about stuff like this, especially considering the fact that if we care about the future of America and especially after what we saw last night that the Democrats did, they wiped the floor with Republicans, we better start figuring this out and we better stop hating people that are calling things out that are technically in some ways biblically true, but at the very least, we need to know what the Bible says. So that'll be the next episode, guys. Thank you for listening. Go check us out on social media.

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