Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Roswell UFO Crash New Evidence | UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts

Episode Date: April 29, 2023

Join us on a captivating journey as we dive into one of the most enduring mysteries of the 20th century—the Roswell UFO crash. In this thought-provoking podcast series, we explore the events that transpired in the summer of 1947 in the dusty town of Roswell, New Mexico, and the enduring legacy it has left behind.Step into a world where conspiracy theories collide with government cover-ups, witness testimonies, and a quest for the truth that has spanned decades. Through meticulous research, expert interviews, and compelling storytelling, we unravel the layers of secrecy surrounding the Roswell incident, seeking to shed light on what really happened that fateful day.From the initial reports of a "flying disc" recovery to the subsequent retraction by the military, we examine the official explanations and the alternative theories that have emerged over the years. Did an extraterrestrial spacecraft crash in the New Mexico desert? Was it a top-secret military experiment gone wrong? Or was it merely a weather balloon, as the authorities claimed? Roswell UFO Crash New Evidence | UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts

And welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I am your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. What's up, people? We're so glad you're here. Welcome to the podcast. And happy Friday to Chad and I. I don't know when you're listening, but if it's Friday for you, happy Friday.

It is. It is Friday today, Sherry. It is April 28, 2023, 749 p.m. And, you know, we were like, look, we got to do Roswell. We got to talk about aliens. It is Friday. I mean, I guess we're kind of lame because we're not going out partying or doing know this stuff. This is what we'd like to talk about. This is what we would rather do than most

things. So we are here with you guys, wherever you're listening or whenever you're listening. We're here with you. So if you're on your way to work right now, don't worry. You only got five days if it's Monday. And if it's Thursday, you only get one day. And if it's Wednesday, you get the point. But guys, tonight, we are going to be talking about the Roswell UFO crash, right? And so look, we've all heard of the Roswell UFO crash. I know. Right. And it's something the government has downplayed. and hidden from the public for a very long time. Originally, the United States government came out and said it was nothing more than a weather balloon.

Although there are many new accounts that have come out, many new witnesses around the day of Roswell, that not a lot of people have talked about. But I have been reading this book. I have read this book recently called The Day After Roswell. I'm going to touch on some of what that book depicts from a lieutenant, or sorry, a colonel in the United States Army. And it's his account of the incident that happened, and not just then, but also, following the many years following that in some of the high ranking positions that this colonel was put in that he was really in charge of a lot of the Roswell stuff and we're going to talk about

without a doubt the Roswell was a UFO crash and not only was it a UFO crash there were aliens that were injured and killed in this crash and it's just a nuts story right i mean it it's going to sound crazy. Like, if you go tell your grandma, hey, grandma, did you know that Roswell in 1947, there were aliens that, not only aliens, but we actually shot aliens, according to one account. Right. And your grandma probably

was, you know, three or four years old when this happened. Because there's not anybody alive, I don't think, now from that error. Because I think about it, no, because really, my mom was born in 19... Oh, wait, when did it happen? 47. Yeah, okay, never mind. My mom is

1934. Yeah, my mom was born in 1948. Yeah, I take that back. They are younger, I guess. Yeah, they were young, yeah, for sure. And a lot of the people that were around or surrounding that incident and the crash, you know, it kind of makes sense. There's a lot of new revelations coming out about Roswell right now. We are starting to have people talk about it.

More people are starting to come out about it. We're starting to hear more accounts of people that were witnesses on that day, including firemen and police officers, actually on their deathbed. you know, a lot of these guys that were here during that incident, there was a big clash between military, not really a big clash. Military was fully in control of the scene. But at the same time, they had a local fire department that responded from Roswell because this crash happened right outside of Roswell.

You had a sheriff's department with the sheriff that actually also responded. Some of these firemen and the sheriff actually seen these beings. They witnessed what actually happened here. And of course, the military saw them see. in these things. So, you know, what happened after that was they were, you know, basically told that if you ever say anything that happens here and whatever that process was, you're going to prison. And, you know, the United States government will definitely do that. I mean, the more we hear about now, right, I mean, you think of Snowden, you think of Assange, you think of the whistleblowers,

right? That, you know, if you were to say something about an account from a UFO or something that you witnessed or whatever the case may be, especially if you were in the, in the, the capacity of a soldier or a military official, you are going to prison because these things automatically get 100% classified. Now, the great thing that has happened with the disclosure and everything the government's kind of been doing as far as at least acknowledging the existence of UFOs now, they are creating programs within the government and the Pentagon that are made to better, I guess, investigate these programs. They do, because of Markerubio and other, Senator Marka Rubio from Florida and some of the others,

they have created a, I guess a safeguard for people and military and whoever, government officials, that they can now come forward and be a whistleblower. There was no such thing as the whistleblower clause as far as UFOs are classified,

especially in terms of extraterrestrial until recently. And now there are more people that can finally come forward as a whistleblower and say, look, this is what I know, this is why I know it, so on and so forth. But my point. to this is, is that there were civilians, as in firemen or police officers, that some of these,

when they died or on their deathbed or close to it, they came out and said in official statements that I have lied my whole life about this because I was not able to talk or say anything about the night that I witnessed in Roswell because of their threat of prison, because it was a highly classified thing. They were a witness to it. And the government said, if you say anything, you're going to prison. And, I mean, even your family, they told them, right? So these are things that these people have come forward and said. Many of them have said this right before they died or leading up to their death.

I would get military not being able to say anything, but as far as like police and fire and even their families, how would they put them in prison? Because it would be against the espionage or the top secret act or whatever. Okay. If they were a witness to now a now top secret project, yeah, they're going to probably have to sign things and do a host of things that says, look, if you talk about this, you're going to prison, Leavenworth.

And it's going to be because you're talking. And look, we're going to get into some of this. And there's a big reason. You know, the more I've read the book about the day after Roswell, which is a great book, by the way, excellently done by the author. Very, very good book. Well explained. And that's what I was asking you about when you're reading the book.

I was like, how was this guy even able to write this book and get away with writing this book, you know, when everything's so secretive? Well, because the colonel is dead now, right? He died in late 90s. So I guess it wasn't published until after he died. Yeah, after his death. And he's the one that had all the information. Now, even before his death, you know, it wasn't that this author just came out and, you know, and said, oh, this is my account or whatever. No, Philip Corso, which is the retired United States Army officer, right? And William J. Burns is the author, right? Now, Corso, the colonel, the guy that this story depicts and follows his career through the military and everything surrounding Roswell.

The thing about it is, is that he was actually starting to go public with it towards the end of his life as it was. Like in the late 90s, I believe he died in the, I think he died in 1990. But either way, he started to go public with this. He had some interviews. He had, you know, history channel. He had various news outlets or whatever did interview him. He did basically, I guess, talk about or at least, I don't think he said everything that he gave the information to Burns about. But, you know, Burns came along and really got close to Corso in this time period.

And so I think it was kind of an agreed upon thing that, you know, know, once Burns wrote the book and kind of depicted and outlined his story with this, I think Corso before his death knew that he had to go and be public as much as he could with it so that when his book did come out with everything and all the files and anything he could get Burns as far as to be able to write this book, then it would be believed because, you know, Corso himself had come out and said this previously, or most of it, right? So, so, yeah, so Corso is dead, and Burns wrote the book. The book came out, I believe, in 2017.

It became a New York bestseller. And, you know, there was a lot of government backlash and so on when the book came out. Obviously, there was probably some disinformation campaigns as far as trying to push this book out of the mainstream because they don't want. Number one, the book kind of not only outlines just the Roswell incident in Corso's. involvement in the Roswell incident years after the actual crash. But it also really just shows the bureaucracy and the lies and corruption in the government and how they really do manipulate the public. And the ways they manipulate the public is pretty profound. I mean, it's a lot of what this book details is so incredible to hear just based on their psychological expertise in the

government, even things when they would come out and say, well, let's just do this. It'll make the public feel like they're at least being able to whatever and it'll calm their ass down. But also at the same time, when I'm talking about Operation Blue Book, or sorry, Project Blue Book, people were able to report UFO sightings and so on and so forth. And at the same time, they could still kind of keep this stuff hidden. But they would also kind of know, like, hey, there's, you know, 80% of these sightings are BS. But the ones that are legit, we can categorize those, investigate them.

figure out how to put these in this category and whatever. And keeping in mind, at the time the government did have a actual UFO, an actual spacecraft with aliens that crashed in 1947. And, you know, the result of that is mind-blowing of actually what we're going to talk about. And, like, what came out of that? That's the most mind-blowing thing. And then you have people still today, like Lou Al-A-Lazondo. Lou Al-A-Tal-A-Tip for the government.

Lou Alizando was, he resigned, he gave a resignation letter because of the bureaucracy. Very much the same thing that Corso and Burns depicts in this book, the bureaucracy in Washington and the government. And it wasn't just, you know, everything is so compartmentalized. And we've talked about it on other podcasts because of the fact it's not even just that they were afraid. and when I say they, Corso and the general and the people that are kind of around this, they weren't really just afraid that Russia necessarily would get the technology or China, but they were also afraid that divisions within our own government would get the technology and potentially offload it to someone else, including Russia.

And I'm talking specifically about the CIA. This was something that Corso depicts very heavily in the book and talks about that they did not want the CIA. to get it because they felt like the CIA, for whatever reason, wanted to turn it over to Russia. Well, that even goes back to Operation Paperclip that we just did a few weeks ago. It has a lot to do with that, I would think. Paperclip is heavily involved in this. Because during this whole time and the Cold War and all of this, this whole thing was kind of going. You know, the crash happened in 1947, but what you have to understand is that the investigations and everything surrounding Roswell and the outcome and

And the benefits that United States government actually obtained from the Roswell crash came years after. I mean, this was a ongoing thing. Initially, it was a big thing for the government. They did what they could. They had the craft. They had the beans. They took the alien beings to Walter Reed Medical Center for autopsies. They had these beans in caskets, which we'll get more into that.

And that's the craziest thing to me is to even, I can maybe understand a, And it's hard for me to even understand how a UFO would even crash. Like, they're so, you know, supposedly so great and way afar of knowledge and able to use things that we don't even know. Yeah, they're so far advanced in us. Yeah, advanced, I guess, is the word, that how would it even crash? And then to even think about our own government, actually having alien beings in their custody is just crazy mind-blowing to me. Yeah. Well, I mean, and it is.

And the thing is, is like everyone, you know, obviously the government just downplayed Roswell for a very long time. They still downplay Roswell. Still, to this day, if you look at Roswell, it's a conspiracy theory, that it was a UFO. But like I was talking about with Lou Alizando and resigning from ATIP, right, which he was over to Pentagon, you know, in his resignation letter, which I will read to you a little bit later in this podcast, his resignation letter. But, you know, he talks about it was because of bureaucracy. And it was because his mission was, you know, to look for these things. things, which were advanced aerial vehicles that posed a threat to our airspace. And yet, the bureaucracy, he couldn't get through. No one wanted to admit it. No one wanted to really

dive deep into what it actually was really going on. And Lou Alessando's point is, look, this is an actual threat to national security. I mean, regardless of whatever you think, yes, as of right now, the aliens have not necessarily attacked us or whatever, but that doesn't mean they won't and it doesn't mean they can't. And I think I 100% know the government 100% knows that the UFOs have far better technology than we do, although we did pick up some from the Roswell crash. And I think that's why they're so afraid for public to actually know the truth because of not only the threat, but the threat if it gets in the wrong hands of what we know also.

So there's two different reasons why I think they've been hush, hush about it, to the point where if anyone even talks about it, pilots, military, they're deemed crazy before. They were just being crazy. They lost their job. They were fired, whatever. And then just recently, it's now being okay to even talk about it. Because before they, you couldn't even talk about it without people thinking you're crazy. Yeah, now they have a specialized way to, you can be a whistleblower about UFOs.

They didn't have that until Marker Rubio and them, you know, kind of made that law and passed that resolution. And so now pilots, military, or officers of the government or whatever can actually now be a whistleblower and be anonymous or whatever the case may be. and not be held liable for anything they say, even if it is on the backs of classified data or whatever. But the whole UFO thing, and I want to get in this before we get into the nuts and bolsts this story, the whole UFO story and the amount of censorship that we are facing today in this world,

we're facing it all the time. We're facing it with UFOs. We're facing it with our podcast. We're facing it with talking about anything. And even UFOs. We've experienced it on YouTube with our aviation channel, which we talked about the, that's actually what we talked about

was the pilot encounters with UFOs. We talked about that on YouTube and we were getting hundreds of thousands of views before that YouTube video. Yeah, and we did the video talking about the UFO thing and we started to get shadow banned. YouTube started completely shadow banned.

Like seriously, our views went from a bunch to like nothing all of a sudden. Yeah. Just because we did UFOs. Yeah, they wanted to bury they wanted to bury our content because we talked about UFOs. So the reason I'm telling you guys this is because we have a substack. And for those of you don't know what substack is, we talk about this every episode because we have to because substack is the way I believe of censorship-free future.

And as far as platforms go, we have a ton of content over there. We've been releasing content. I just did actually a UFO style, not a documentary, but it is a video to where I put something together. I think that I talk about, you know, the potential. of alien bases on this planet right now. And I even go in and show you guys what I'm talking about, especially based on all these videos I show you. It's a presentation.

It's 40 minutes long. But then we also have, you know, we have stuff on there about interdimensional time travel with that possibility of UFOs. But then we also have other stuff. I mean, we got tons of content. Our longer articles have voiceovers. And guys,

all you have to do to go join our substack is go to your Android or iPhone app stores and download substack. It's very easy. You can easily sign up with a Google account, Facebook, whatever, and just look up, investigate Earth, and you'll find us with Chad and Cherry. Our logo is a little different on there. It's like a kind of like a neon looking logo. It says Investigator Earth.

But anyway, you'll find us. Go check us out. I think you'll really enjoy that content. And regardless, if we ever do get censored or banned, which we have had some podcast episodes are not doing as good as they used to because I think that, you know, the powers it be, maybe AI. I think a lot of these companies are starting to really use AI now to. to find things that they don't agree with

and they're just going to say, sorry, conspiracy theory. Malinformation. Yeah. Malinformation. Yeah. Malinformation she's saying is something that's true

but inconvenient to them, right? So, anyways, that's our substack thing. So let's talk about this. So the day after Roswell, and we're going to not just talk about the book, I'm going to play some clips from Lou Alessando

and some of the most important things he's ever said about the UFO, you know, whole phenomenon. But Philip J. Corso was a retired United States Army officer, right? And William J. Burns was the author. Now, the book explores Corsos' claims of his involvement in the aftermath of Roswell that occurred in 1947. And so the day after Roswell is titled the New Roswell, right?

So it talks about the new Roswell after the actual incident happened. And Corso sets the stage by providing an overview of the events surrounding the original Roswell incident and its implications for national security, he even presents himself at first as a firsthand witness to the aftermath of the crash and claims to have been involved in handling the recovered debris and technology. And so Corso begins by describing the Roswell incident

that took place in July 1947. He mentions how an undenified flying object crashed on a ranch near Roswell, New Mexico, and the military quickly responded by courting off the area. He highlights the initial press release by the military stating that a flying disc had been recovered, but how it was quickly retracted and replaced with a weather balloon explanation,

as many of you have heard. Corso, he was actually stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas, when he received a call from his superior lieutenant colonel Nathan Twining. Now, Twining instructed him to report to Roswell Army Airfield to take charge of the debris recovered from the crash. Corso, being an intelligence officer, with a background in ordinance and missile technology, was seen as a suitable candidate for this task. And so upon arriving in Roswell,

Corso was taken to a hangar where he saw various crates and containers that were filled with the wreckage. He describes the debris as a combination of metallic fragments, unusual-looking materials, and very strange symbols. Corso believed that these artifacts were not only, you know, not from this earth, but possibly an extraterrestrial craft, right? So he also goes on to explain how he was assigned the responsibility of studying and cataloging the debris as well as overseeing its distribution to various military research institutions and defense contractors. He said that this technology, which he refers to as the Roswell Legacy, has played a huge role in jump-starting various advancements in the United States military and civilian industries. And so kind of the first part of the book kind of concludes with him expressing his concern

about potential national security threats posed by advanced technology fallen into the wrong hands, aka not the United States. He suggests that the recover technology from Roswell incident paved the way for significant advancements in all kinds of ways for the United States. So this is something that is really huge, right? So I want to make sure that we understand that when this incident happened in Roswell,

the United States military, a nearby air, I think it was an Air Force base or military base one, it was not that far, which is the responding military that came to the crash scene. This is the base they came from. And the previous days

leading up to this crash, they were experiencing high activity on radar. Now, this radar system was an old type-looking radar or something you would probably imagine a circular screen that had the green dots, yep, and it had like a scan thing

that would scan stuff. It's not nearly as advanced. as say our radars and systems are now, although we still do use radar systems just like we did in 1947. Right. But, you know, the days leading up to this, they had unidentified crafts that were in this area

that were not being reported by any aircraft control or any aerospace, anything. These are crafts that they couldn't see. They could not witness, but they were showing up on radar often. And not only were they showing up on radar during this time leading up to this crash, but they were going, you know,

for many accounts, they said that they were going over easily a thousand miles per hour plus in certain scenarios. They were going from, you know, point A to point B, and these crafts would be able to literally turn on a dime at over a thousand miles per hour and go head the other direction. Sometimes they would be slower.

Sometimes they would be stayed, you know, in one particular position. And they were doing this for days leading up to this crash. So the night of the crash, actually, the crash happened sometime after midnight, July in 1947. And when this crash actually happened, they were seeing all these radar blips and everything leading up to this from 9 p.m. 10 p.m. on. And so right before the crash, though, they had been seeing very similar sightings on the radar

as they had been seeing days prior. And this one particular dot on the radar, it showed it doing something. different, right? So radar systems, especially in 1947, and how they act and how they operate and what it depicts on based on what you're seeing determines how high, how low the potential of

if this ground level versus 10,000 feet, there's certain ways that the actual blip looks like. And so this one particular case, this craft looked like it went down. This is how back then in 1947

radar operators would tell if a airplane went down. They would be a large blip on the radar if something went down in a certain area because I guess it's the closest to the ground or however that works. The brighter it got, the closer to the ground.

So they knew this thing went down and then it disappeared. So they thought they had a crash. Not only that, there was people on the military base. Well, I thought they saw like a flash on the radar. Well, no, well, they did. I mean, it was flashing bright

and then it went down and it disappeared. So then there were also people at the base and keeping in mind this base was not very far from where the actual crash happened. There were military officers and others that were outside at the time on this base that, you know, they did see a heavy lightning storm in the distance. But in particular to this time, when this crash happened, it was extreme lightning that was happening. I'm talking about something that they had not seen in the sky. Wow. That makes sense then. But yet, so there's, you know,

there's any number of things and maybe opinions of why this thing could have crashed. I mean, some people said it was in, it was the most intense lightning we've ever seen out there. Could it have been because it got caught up in this? But then, you know, obviously if you think about like the propulsion systems of today and what they say that these propulsion systems are, which are they believe gravity fields around the craft, that doesn't really make a lot of sense because if they do envelop their own gravity field around them, then they're probably not going to be interfered with any type of storm system or anything, yeah, anything in our atmosphere.

Yeah, anything in our atmosphere, they would be. basically, it would almost be like whatever was happening outside of their own gravity field, which is how they proposed themselves. Right. It don't exist. And that's why I'm so dumbfounded still about how it even crashed if they were that advanced. But when you were talking about the lightning storms, the severe lightning storms, I was thinking, well, maybe this electric magnetic force somehow went alongside the gravity force and did something, you know, kind of friction with the electricity of the electricity of the

lightning and against the UFO. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, we don't know exactly why or how it crashed. I mean, that's the thing. But, you know, we often hear about this debris and stuff, right? And Corso explains that it wasn't really debris.

Now, there was a section of the craft that was cracked. He also explains that the craft was a delta shape. So a delta shape is a typical triangle-looking thing. But an actual delta shape, I believe, in the way that this craft was explained was it wasn't just a perfect triangle. it actually had a inner two-sided triangle at the bottom, right? So it was almost like it was a triangle. It comes down on both sides, right? And then the triangle comes back up, but to a point on the bottom, right?

So it's like it's not a full triangle. It comes back up to a point. And so this thing had like a delta wing type system. If you guys look up what delta wing is or a delta form or a delta shape, you'll kind of see what I'm saying. But he said that this craft actually didn't really have a ton of debris. I mean, it's not like the craft actually broke up. This craft was pretty intact.

There was a crack in a certain section of it. And, you know, but as far as, you know, like a plane crash you would see, debris everywhere, it wasn't like that. This craft obviously crashed, but it did not, it wasn't broken up. It wasn't anything. It was very salvageable. And actually, when they took the craft off of the crash, site, it was all in pretty much

one piece. So it's pretty much intact. I wonder when it did crash or whatever, if it exploded, did it catch on fire, anything like that? No, it didn't. No, no fire, no nothing. So we don't exactly know 100% why this thing went down exactly, but obviously there was

a reason. So now, Corsa also provides further details about the Roswell incident, and he claims that along with wreckage, as we were talking about earlier, the military also recovered bodies of extraterrestrial beings. And according to Corso, these alien bodies were transported to a secret facility where they were stored and studied.

He described the physical characteristics of the beings stating that they had large heads, large eyes, and were significantly smaller than humans. Corso also suggests that the bodies were dissected and analyzed in an effort to understand their biology and their technology. Now, I want to break this down for a minute as well. So there was a military officer there at the scene of this crash that said that when he had actually made eye contact with one of these surviving beings. You know, he knew that it was... Now, something else that I want to explain to, these beings, they said, have little slits as mouths.

Like they didn't talk. They didn't really make any movement with their mouth whatsoever. But the first military officer that kind of seen and witnessed one of these. crafts looking down, or not crafts, but one of these beings, these aliens looking down and he was alive, you know, he said that it wasn't, he didn't say anything to him, but somehow this alien was talking to him in his mind. And that's exactly what we hear about with accounts of people that have been abducted by aliens. It's never that they're speaking or even like having sound at all, but they're speaking through their minds and they understand each other through their minds. And it just

gives me goosebumps to know that there was actually military responding to a live alien. Or there was a couple, I guess, right? Three or four, yeah. That were still alive at this crash site. Yeah, and these little aliens were three or four feet tall, very small, big heads. But, you know, one of the firemen actually got close. This was one of the firemen almost went to prison that night because they cordoned off the area. But this fireman was kind of climbing over this certain area to see what the hell was going on because he didn't know. And at this point in time, this fireman, it was like a movie set almost. I mean, it was, he said everyone, everything was all to hell.

There really wasn't a designated, perfect line that they had set up. So the military was kind of doing their thing, trying to figure out what the hell was going on. And so this fireman kind of took advantage of this moment to see for himself what the hell was going on. I think it was one of the fire chiefs or deputy chiefs or whatever it was then. So he climbs over this hill, he goes down. and no one at this point had told them, right, stay out of here. You know, no one had told any of them.

And then the sheriff also was kind of coming along on another angle going towards the crash site. And then you have, just imagine all the military guys. They have these big lights set up trying to see what the hell they're looking at. And it's like they're in one section. The fire department and the sheriff's department are kind of like, I don't know, probably a thousand yards down the road, but they can still access the,

they can still access to crash site, but just from a different angle. And so this is what they were doing. They were walking up to the crash site. But one of the actual beings, one or two of them were being loaded up on like a stretcher slash whatever while they were looking at this thing.

And then there was another one that was still on the ground. And this fireman and sheriff both were looking at it. It looked at him, at them. It was still alive, like laying down. But he said they both, heard the exact same thing. Like he was dying. And he told them.

The guy was, the alien was telling him I'm dying. Yeah, I know this sounds bad shit crazy, right? No, but it makes complete sense that it's like almost a mental telepathy type conversation with these beings. And I'm sure they're like, holy crap. Yeah. And he said the weird thing was he's like, both of them said that, you know, it wasn't even like we had to say anything. Like whatever we were thinking, I think at one point in time, one of the people said that, I think it was either fireman or whatever, that the alien responded. like so so he was thinking yeah because he was thinking he was like we're not here to hurt you

you know whatever um but and he said well i'm dying and you know i'm i'm close to death or whatever whatever was said oh that makes me want to cry well even worse though even worse course corso's account along with other military people that were there on the scene that night there was one actual being that was walking and was trying to and this is this is the worst part right and this is from a colonel in the army that was over one of the biggest program gosh, are you kidding me? But listen, so this, this alien was walking off. This was right when they first got there in the military.

So the alien was walking off. These guys had their rifles and all that stuff, trying to figure out what the hell was going on. This alien was trying to walk over like a little hill because he was injured or whatever the case is. And one of the dudes, I don't know who gave him the orders or what happened, but they shot him. Oh, my God. And then killed him. Well, no wonder they surround. And there were many of them that were pissed.

like a lot of the military guys like we don't even know what the hell you know are you kidding me so and then the rest of them they took got you know got in the thing there were a couple of them or at least one

that was still alive when they took him took them whatever this thing was so I just I want to narrate kind of the scene of Roswell

according to the colonel but it just makes me wonder from this crash and we always hear about UFOs around military bases yeah is it

because they feel like they are a threat because they know this is what happens. They get shot by people. Are we a threat because of our military bases? I don't know. And, you know, we've talked about this in previous podcast that, you know, sometimes people are abducted

and sometimes they're just around those places. Yeah. And, you know, people get hurt with the radiation burns and actually die around military places. Yeah. No, yeah, you're right. you know what I'm saying?

So it's just weird. But I want you to explain before you go further because you were telling me about this book the other night and that they actually had like space clothes on or something. No, they had not really space clothes, but these beings, especially after years later, that Corso actually got the files and the artifacts from the crash scene that night. And it was his job to examine a lot of these things and try to figure out what else can we do with this, can we use this, so on and so forth. Because at this time, Corso was starting to become over foreign weapons technology.

So his job was to try to reverse engineer foreign weapons or foreign technology, right? And they also just grouped in the UFO things with the foreign technology. Because keeping in mind, as I said, during this time, what their goal is, along with his boss at a time in the Pentagon, once he got the Pentagon job, which we'll talk about in a little bit. but his job was to number one figure out look through the files and figure out how we're going to how we're going to use this and so on the general as corso and he said he had no more than a year to figure this shit out and and get this done but he also said do not let anyone else know what you're working on we're going to lump this in the foreign technology or whatever and so anyone

that helps or class or categorizes any of this stuff you know it's just foreign technology a lot of these people that actually after this worked on this stuff and tried to figure out these things had no idea what this was. They had no idea was from Roswell. They had no idea it was from UFOs. But they couldn't let, even people that were in that top secret clearance, they could not let these people know what these things actually were. This is how they got it and kept it away from CIA and other agencies. The Air Force wanted it. The CIA wanted it. The, you know, the Department of the Navy wanted it. Anything the Air Force wanted, the Navy wanted, he said. So it was like a very hush-hush thing and they had to figure out the most they could before

everyone knew what they were working on or what they had. So he also talks about in secrecy and the cover-ups surrounding the Roswell and says he discusses the immense pressure put on military personnel involved in the recovery and handling of the UFO wreckage. And he suggests that the decision to change the initial press release and dismiss the event as a weather balloon was a deliberate attempt to conceal the truth about the extraterrestrial contact. He explains that the military wanted to avoid public panic and keep the technological advancements derived from the crash under tight control. And I think this was, you know, you got to talk about this, it was a big time, you know,

this was after Second World War, you know, there was a ton of wars going on as far as the race to technology. You had the Germans that were heavily advanced, actually, in terms of this. Corso also believes that the Germans and potentially others had their own downcrafts that they were trying to reverse engineer, which does make. sense because Hitler's regime and Nazi Germany, they were making freaking spacecrafts that were technology. You know, they were some of the first people to make stealth type crafts was Germany. So he believed that Hitler and Germany actually was some of the ones that kind of got their hands

potentially on something before. And they even went as far as to say that these UFOs could potentially have reversed or not reversed, but they have. have the ability he believed to manipulate the outcome of wars and in certain ways. And the weird thing about this is recently looking at Lou Alizondo's video, Lou Alizando said the exact same thing. This is something that ATIP knew. Now, a clip I'll play you in a little bit.

Well, no, I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say, I'm going to let him say it, and then we'll talk about it. But so the laboratory. So, course, his assignment at the Foreign Technology Desk at the Pentagon, he explains that He was responsible for distributing the recovered debris to various defense contractors and research institutions for analysis and reverse engineering. He also says that the process led to significant advancements in technology. He talks about how materials with unusual properties such as debris metal alloys

were studying and integrated into military projects. He also emphasizes that the Roswell technology played a crucial role in the development of integrated circuits, which eventually revolutionized the computer industry. And this was back in 1947 and then 66. Wow. This is how he says we actually ever got computer technology for the chips to do computers, which sounds crazy.

Now, he also expands on the idea that the idea that the recovered technology was reverse engineered for military purposes. And he discusses the formation of secretive foreign technology division tasked with exploiting the potential of these extraterrestrial technologies. He also says that research. were able to decipher the advanced engineering principles used in alien technology and applied them to military equipment. He mentions the development of advanced aircraft and radar systems influenced by Roswell technology, which gave the United States a significant edge in the reconnaissance and defense capabilities, the impact on missiles and space technology, how it influenced technology of missiles and space technology development. He also talks about his involvement in

integrating the alien technology into missile programs. He also discusses advancements made in guidance systems, target acquisition, and accuracy, which he attributes to the reverse engineering of the extraterrestrial technology. And he also says that this breakthrough enabled the United States to develop more advanced missile systems, such as the Nike Ajax and the Nike Hercules during the Cold War. And these advancements significantly enhanced the country's defense capabilities.

He talks about when he was first in this office in the Pentagon, And this was when he was first handed this massive filing cabinet of files on Roswell. And then he had a couple other people bringing up crates almost as if they were delivering vegetables. You know how they got those like

it looks like pallet crates type things but they're made out like pallet wood. They were bringing up things like that to his office. And so this was right after the general come to him, his new boss in the Pentagon. And he said, here's your files. this is what you're going to do, blah, blah.

Now, I want to go back just for a minute because at this point in time, right, Corso was just getting this job. This was, I believe, in the 60s, right? So back in the 40s, right after, 47, I believe, to be exact, right after Roswell happened. Now, Corso had just got back from Berlin or somewhere. He was in wars.

I mean, he had been in wartime fighting, Vietnam, I believe, or not Vietnam, but I can't remember. But anyways, he was overseas. He was in various wars. He was, you know, he was a major and so on. Well, then he got tasked with after leaving overseas to come back and head up this base in Kansas or whatever as a major, not head up the entire base, but he was a major there. And this was in 47.

So in 47, he goes and he's the major of this base. And during his time there, you know, about a week or, no, maybe it was three or four days, I guess, after Roswell happened. Well, when Roswell happened, which we, I guess, forgot to touch on, they took this spacecraft, right, and put it on a flatbed truck, right? And a pretty big flatbed, put this thing on there with a crane or whatever, and then shipped it off. Well, they shipped the actual craft somewhere else. But the bodies of these aliens came to his base. And this was two, three days after Roswell.

And so one of the sergeants that was over night watch at his base, this was, I mean, he was literally only at this base for like four or five days. So one of the sergeants came up to him and said, for some reason we cannot go in the veterinary unit because they have a veterinary place there. I mean, I know it sounds nuts, right? But most military bases have a vet and all that stuff. And so this place was cordoned off. No one was allowed to go there.

It was a no contact. But the sergeant's job was to night watch and make sure no one came. in, but he kind of reached out to, or he talked to Corso, which was a major, much higher level than the sergeant. And I believe the sergeant was on Corso's bowling team that he had just got on. They had kind of been friends or whatever. Right. They kind of, you know, they weren't like so, I guess, professional with each other.

They were kind of cool with each other, and that's the way Corso liked it. And so this guy, he said he was walking, the major Corso was walking around the base. He was going by the veterinary unit. This was at night. and here's this sergeant in the dark and he's like he's like what sergeant is that you?

He's like yeah he's like this is crazy he's like but you got to see this he's like did you not hear we're not supposed to be anywhere around there right and you know because I guess Corso said

I guess he knew about this but he didn't understand exactly now the fact that Corso was a major he had full and total access to the entire base technically there was nothing really anyone could tell him

that he couldn't do because he wasn't made aware of this. He was made aware that, hey, don't let anyone go in there because this is a no contact zone, blah, blah. But here is this sergeant in the dark halfway in between the door and the porch area of this thing. And he said...

Oh, the veterinarian clinic. Yeah, and he said, Major, I don't know what... He said, you have to look at this. I know we're not supposed to go in here, but we've got to go in here, and you've got to look at this because this is unbelievable stuff going on here. Yeah, he had heard from a couple other people

and like, you know, hearing, I guess, when they delivered these beings to this place, because they were delivering them in this place to be transported the next day. And so Corsa goes into this building. It says, night time. And Corses says, look, you're not supposed to be in here for sure. So, like, get your ass back outside.

Like, come on, dude. And so he goes in there, he's like, what the hell is possibly like this, you know? Well, what is it? So, whatever. So he walks in here and there's these tarps and stuff, and over this stuff. And he pulls back to tarps and there's caskets.

He said, I couldn't, I mean, there were like wooden box caskets or some kind of, not wooden, but it had like some kind of liner inside of them. But he said, I had no idea what it was. But he said, I had already seen that one of them had been, and they were nailed. These things were nailed in. And he said he had seen one of them had already been partially pried open from whoever. Oh, somebody else had peaked in there. Probably the sergeant dude.

I guess the sergeant guy. Based on what he had heard, overheard from the people that delivered it. So Corso starts pulling back this thing. And he said what he sees changes life forever. It was alien beings in a jail-type substance, I guess, probably to preserve their body. But yeah, he sees these alien beings in this freaking coffin in a jail-type liquid. And he said he could not believe what he saw. Could you imagine just walking in your on base?

You're in charge. this base and if any places at all you're at the veterinarian clinic and walk in and see a bunch of coffins of aliens, I would be like, what in the world? Am I alive? Like slap me. Is this real? Yeah. Well, so he said that day changed his life. And so years later, you know, he finally makes his way into the Pentagon position thinking he's never going to have to ever. And he said for years, for the years following that, he always convinced himself. No, that's not what I saw.

Like, this is, like, I don't know what the hell though. I have no idea what that was. I don't have any clothes. I totally get that, because we've all had times like, when we've experienced something and we're not sure. Did I really see that?

Is that what I, but you question yourself almost. Yeah. To make it not real when you know it is real. Yeah. And so he said that, you know, and so then leading up to his Pentagon position, you know,

guy, Corso, just happened to be over. He was an expert in weapons and foreign weapons systems. And he got this big high up position with this general in the Pentagon. And so this general comes in and he says, oh, and keeping in mind, too, and I shouldn't leave this out.

Right prior to his position to Pentagon, Corso actually was on staff for Eisenhower, the president, right? And he even had talked with Eisenhower at a couple of different occasions about this UFO thing, right?

And he didn't really ever get a whole lot from that, but Eisenhower was a big UFO president. I don't know if anyone remembers, but he was. He had actually made statements on UFOs. But anyways, so this general comes in, and he says, hey, I have a very, very, very important project that you have to head.

And he's like, I'm going to give you a, you know, this filing cabinet, these two filing cabinets, it's the most top secret thing we have in the Pentagon. and we don't even want other departments in this Pentagon to know what the hell you're going to be working on. And he said, it's going to blow your mind, blah, blah, and at one point in time, he opens a filing cabinet, and he sees all of this shit that has to do with Roswell

and a crashed spacecraft. And he said, at that moment, I was like, oh, shit. I'm going to have to relive this again. You know? So it was a pretty crazy account of, like, lead up and how all this shit kind of came into play with him. But, nonetheless, it was pretty crazy.

But the impact on the missile and space technology was huge. The world of countermeasures, he explores the use of alien technology and countermeasures against potential adversaries. He explains how the recovered technology enabled the development of advanced electronic warfare systems in radar jamming techniques. Corso described how the intelligence of Roswell technology

into military aircraft and ships allowed for improved stealth capabilities, making it harder for enemies to detect and track these vehicles. He emphasized that these countermeasures were derived from the unique properties and principles of the alien technology and provided the United States

with a considerable advantage during conflicts. So these things were huge. As he was examining some of these artifacts, I think it was a second or third day once he got this crate brought to him that looked like a bunch of vegetables, but it was actual pieces from things inside or outside of the craft

or potentially things that some of the aliens actually had on them. There was one thing that looked like a headband, he said, like two little antenna things or three. That aliens were actually wearing. Yeah, because there was accounts from the scene that, yes, one of the aliens were wearing one of these little

headband things. And it had almost like a... No, it's like antenna sticking up kind of from it, sort of. And he said that, number one, they never figured out, because what he would do with this stuff is he would basically give this to the most advanced people that know technology

and know all this shit at the time and it was their job to figure out what it did, how it turned on, and anything they could possibly tell them without them knowing that this came from alien spacecraft, right? But this one particular headband they couldn't figure out what the hell

it did. They couldn't figure out how it turned on or, you know, didn't appear to like, you know, they didn't have batteries or it just it was just a thing, but they had no idea how this worked, right? They never actually got anywhere with that, right? At least according to this. There was also a material that was like a,

it was like a cloth material, but it was also a metal material. But it was, imagine like metal being as flimsy as cloth, but like if you try to ball it up, it would take, it would retake it shaping it. So it was extremely strong, but also not the same time. There was also something that was like an eye piece or something that was put in front of an eye

and they actually did get this to work to where they could see distinct outlines of structures that they like through certain almost like through walls but like it's almost the way it was explained to me it almost sounded like some type of thermal something technology.

Like thermal imagery. Yeah, yeah. And keeping in mind, 1947, no one had thermal imagery. Right. And going back to

this cloth, like metal material, I kind of understand what you're saying. It's almost like, because everything we've heard about

this material from Roswell is not any metal we know on Earth. That's what I've always heard. And it was a very flimsy,

thin, but very strong metal that was stronger than the thickest steel you have. And these metals, you can,

actually crunch it together and then when you let it go, it goes back into shape. And to me, thinking about that, I almost understand how they could use the weather balloon thing as a, as a, what's it, a ploy, I guess, saying, oh, yeah, it was a weather balloon. Because, you know, weather balloons are kind of like that. Just like the balloon we saw from China going through America. Yeah. You know, this thing was flimsy. It wasn't metal, but it was flimsy.

kind of fell apart. Yeah. So I can kind of get where they used the weather balloon versus the metal. Yeah, it's all,

I mean, it's all bullshit. The problem was that, you know, the media and the, the actual, it was media, and I believe

somehow the government actually first came out and said it was a downscraft. That was their initial report. Right. And then they were tracked to that statement. Right.

Right. But, you know, Corso also said that not only did we get all of that technology from them, even including laser beams,

right? which was used and is still being used to this day for programs such as missile defense. There was actually a documentary about an area out west, somewhere in the southwest. I can't remember what the documentary was. You might remember it. But his dad lived on this mountain near a military base looking towards the base, and there were certain times where this base had some type of laser that went up into the air at night. Like it would usually be at 2 o'clock in the morning.

And this laser would shoot up in the sky, and it would be the most intense. intense looking laser. I'm talking about not like a laser beam like you do with a little, you know, a little pointer thing. We're talking about something that was probably like five feet wide laser, right? And so we know that this happens. We know that the government and military have this technology. And it

sounds like we probably got that from Roswell or potentially other downcraft scents. But the thing about this is that he also says that they also were able to get technology of fiber optic cables, which resulted in faster and more efficient communication systems. We use fiber optic

cables all the time. He also mentions the application of superconductors, which derived from Roswell technology, which enabled advancements in electrical transmission and magnetic resonance imaging, which is MRI technology. You know how you go to the hospital and get an MRI? There was something with that as well. Let me also point out one thing, too. We've talked many times on this podcast about cattle mutilations, right? And animal mutilations. And there's a huge story going on about animal mutilations right now in Texas. Yes. And I've actually, it's been blowing up on Twitter. These cows' tongues are completely taken out of their mouth. Now, I don't know that full story. I'm not really looked in that lately. I don't know if I think

the cows died, but I know their tongues were surgically removed. I think maybe some other parts of them were also surgically removed, what it appeared to be. But with these cow mutilations, what are really crazy is when they're mutilated and organs are taken out, our parts are taken out, there's no blood. And that's what gets everyone is there's no blood during these mutilations. It was like precise, almost like a surgical doctor had performed these surgeries. Yeah. Well, Corso said one of the artifacts, as he calls it, that came from this craft was some

type of thing that looked like a torch. Now, we probably should have said this backwards and then you could have figured it out, but we said it frontwards instead. This thing looked like a torch. And when he first saw it, he couldn't really figure out how it worked or whatever. He gave this to the technology team. And the technology team came back and said, look, this is like a torch laser of some sort. Like, it's so hot, whatever this comes out is precision.

This is probably used for some type of high precision. cutting or possibly even surgically, you know, this is kind of what they were telling him. And so they had demonstrated and tested this thing on many different things. And not only, and I would love to know what they actually test this on, because almost the only way you would kind of know how this works on animals is if he actually tested on animals, but I'm sure they do that in the military. I promise you, or the government. But this thing was basically a scalpel, like a scalpel that doctors use.

but the thing about it is is in a lot of ways it would allow for carterization but that doesn't mean that still doesn't necessarily explain where the blood goes and all this stuff with cattle mutilations

I mean these things are cut precisely their organs are gone but there's no blood right so that doesn't make sense unless they're being abducted and then brought back which is very possible I mean there you know

there are images a whole like I've seen so many images and graphics and artwork of cows being abducted by aliens and I don't know where that has come from over the years and years and years. But it makes sense.

Cows and stuff like that. Yeah. So this is all absolutely nuts. So these things they're using, they're basically torches that have exact precision. And when they cut, they're also catarizing at the same time. Cartaizing, sorry. It's crazy. Yeah, they're also carterizing.

Now, I want to get into a little bit here. for a minute of Lou Alizondo. Okay. Now, I want to see probably what the best... First of all, yeah, let's play this. I want to play how Lou Alizando actually entered A-Tip. This is him during the interview, but I want to play this to you guys

because all of this is now from an account of someone that was high up in the Department of Defense that was heading the A-Tip program. And this is Lou Alizando's account of how he kind of came into. the ATIP program. Check this out. Anytime you have a sensitive program, you know, you want to have,

you want to have good security and counterintelligence expertise. It's just, it's just an extra layer of, if you will, insurance to have to protect your program. So it wasn't unusual that I was being asked to provide counterintelligence expertise. I wasn't being asked to do anything with UFOs per se. It was just to come in and provide, you know, the background that I already have just used that in this.

capacity. So ultimately, long story short, obviously the rest is history. No pun intended. I said, sure, I'll accept the job. And it was at that point, through various conversations afterwards, I began to realize that these guys are legit. They're real. I mean, they have like real data. And the individuals that they started that were part of this effort, I knew from before, like people like Hal put off and whatnot that were, you know, they were kind of, legends in their own time anyways. So I knew this was a serious, legitimate effort. And then I began to see the documentation from the Senate and Congress.

And I really began to recognize that this was a full-fledged program. But they really did need counterintelligence expertise. They didn't have anything. So they were kind of vulnerable from that perspective. Yeah. So Lou was a counterintelligence officer, right? So this guy, well, in the military or government, counterintelligence or intelligence or intelligence in general is typically who they go after or for for specialized top secret secretive programs.

This is also what Corso was in. Corso was a intelligence officer. He was a high up intelligence officer, which is how he came into the role of getting these files such as UFOs and Roswell. It's very similar to Lou Alizando. The reason I'm playing some of Lou Alizando stuff, and we're going to dig a little deeper in this over the next few minutes, is because Lou Alizando kind of reminds me of like a today's version of Corso, right,

and who we've been talking about. And I think there's been many others beyond Lou Alizondo, but he does remind me of someone that would remind me of that. Now, I want Lou to, I want Lou Alizano, he's speaking at an event and hope you guys can hear this good, but this is why he says that he actually left the Department of Defense. Here you go. And my intention for leaving the Department of Defense, I would also like to clarify, it was not a matter of disloyalty.

It was, in fact, loyalty why I left the Department of Defense in the first place. I am very, very loyal to the Department of Defense. If you look at my resignation memo, one of the very last things I told Secretary Mattis, you could always count on me to carry the water for DOD. I love my country. I love the Department of Defense. I believe in what we're trying to accomplish. But in order for me to accomplish and finish the very mission I was given, by the way, which I did not ask for, I actually had to leave my beloved department to finish that mission.

So if anybody has any speculation out there, why I left, I did not leave in bad blood. I left because I had to, because it was the only way I was going to be able to get the boss who I was loyal to, who I served in combat with. to be able to pay attention because certain people that were minding him were not providing him the information. And in my opinion, the only thing more dangerous to a country, keep in mind that Department of Defense mission is to protect its national borders, the only thing more dangerous than our ability not to protect our national borders and our people is not to be able to have a conversation that that threat exists. And that was my, that is what I objected to. We couldn't even have a conversation about it because of social stigma. And that is wrong.

So that is why I chose to leave. And, of course, a lot of speculation came out as a result of that. And my spy for the CIA trying to fool people and do soft disclosure, as I've said before, look, at the end of the day, I'll tell you no, but it isn't really matter because people are going to believe what they believe. At the end of the day, who cares? Because we're getting what we wanted. you're getting the information that was so squirled away in these little secret hidden compartments it's now coming to light you're now realizing we were looking at aircraft 40 years in the future because if you look at 40 years ago in the past what do we have we had f16s we had f14 tomcats

we had f4s what do we have today we have f8ines we have f16s we have f12s we have f117s so i want to i want to make something very clear what he's what he also mentions here and this is something that Corso talked about, right? This is something he was very public with in talking about. And this is also exactly what Lou Alizondo is talking about. Now, when we hear the word Lou Alizondo, the name Lou Alizando, and especially in the UFO community, there's something that I want you guys to understand and make sure you understand is that Lou Alizando and his position in government was extremely high level. You're talking about top secret, the most top secret clearance you can get in the United States government. He was the director of this program.

in the Pentagon, Department of Defense. I mean, this is the guy that you would do a movie on about some craziness like this. So this is not some weirdo, psycho, tinful hat-wearing guy. This guy headed the program. He has seen everything there is to, well, maybe not everything, but as much as he's seen, that's why he's so adamant on, we have to get this in light. But one of the things he just said was,

for those of you to believe that I'm a CIA operative or something that's trying to do a soft disclosure, Well, Corso said that that's what they used to do. During his time, the CIA or whoever, what they would do is, and this was part of it, Project Blue Book was one of the reasons for this, they would do soft disclosures, which they would kind of soften you up to the idea of UFOs. Yeah, but they would also be able to hide behind the disclosure. Right. By saying, okay, well, maybe, I mean, who knows, but, you know, give us your reports and whatever. And all the whole time they knew all about it, but it was the best way.

to keep the public off of them. And give the public a task. Right. And like Lou was saying, he pretty much had to leave his job because they could not even have a conversation about the truth. But he also left his previous job, which he loved, because they came after him to do this. Right.

But the main thing is he was doing this job and he can't do it to the best of his ability because he can't even sit down and have a conversation about the truth. And that's why he had to resign to go after this and go after the truth. because he believes in his country, he loves his country, and he wants to do the best for his country, is pretty much why he said he resigned. No, you're absolutely right.

This is something, let me play this for you guys as well. This is Lou sacrificed everything to leave the DOD and go public, and this is his account of that. I tell you, I risked everything to do this. I'm not sure people understand. I gave up a fan top of my game. I gave up a retirement, a pension, and everything. to do this. I'm a hobby. A lot of people are willing to do this as this was my job and it was not easy.

I can assure you, I gave up from almost everything to do this because I believe in what I was doing. And I believe that the department must take this seriously and there must be a way that allows our heroes to report this information up through the Yeah, and so Lou Alizondon, by the way, and I forgot to mention us, he was a big part of this reporting system and getting whistleblowers being able to, to report things and the military movement and pilots coming forward and all these others and the videos that are being released. Jeremy Corbell is getting videos released, but Lou Alessando is a huge part behind this. And he was like the forefront. Yeah, he gave up his entire career for this. Because listen, guys, if you're over the main program of, you know, of advanced aerial, you know, threat, whatever, A-tip, you give up this entire career that you've worked so long in seniority

in the government and all that, and you get to this high-level position, and you give this up because he, imagine, though, imagine being in his position, and say similar to Corso, being handed these files that say, this is what exists. And I'm guaranteeing you, by the way, that Lou Alizando had these files. He had the files that say, without a doubt, 100%, no question, these aliens and these spacecraft are from another planet. them. We have had them. They are still here. And Lou Alessano has came out and said on news programs,

look, guys, I know that we have crashed vehicles. He has said this from another planet that was not made on this planet. He has said this in media. He said it on Fox News. He said on CNN. He said on all these different platforms. And so the question is no longer, um, The question is no longer whether or not aliens exist. It's just when are we going to fully acknowledge it and disclose it? Yeah, exactly. And that's the big word. When are we going to disclose it?

Because even two years ago, we were so excited about all these UFO files finally coming out from the past where they have kept them secret for years and years and years and years. And Chad and I were so excited. We're like, we cannot wait to go through these files and go through it. But then the files come out. And it's like these. Basically nothing. Pages and pages and pages of stuff, but it's so redacted that you can even tell what one sentence is. You know, pretty much acknowledged that they were talking about UFOs, but they still would not acknowledge that they believed UFOs existed on this earth.

Yeah. Now you're exactly right. Here's something Lou Alizando said also as far as some of the threats he's received after going public. Here you go. Left aisle inside that building, which to me tell me maybe I should be threatened from my personal safety. Now, that's kind of skill, I understand, but it nonetheless happened. That's

a problem for me. It's a problem because I'm trying to allow our country to have a conversation not under the fact that there are things we can't explain is not the providence of any government or any, just like Galileo making the point center of the solar system. That is not a class

of American people security priority. Then they need to have the conversation. I really don't care what the American people decide as long as they have the ability to make that decision and not even have a conversation. Yeah. And that has always been a problem. It is.

And I 100% agree with them. And that is what the problem is. They will not disclose, and I'm talking about the government, anything to the people. And that's like what I was talking about before, either because they want to protect the people. Yeah. And they don't want the people to know. Yeah, you're exactly right.

Yeah. It's nuts. I mean, and they've been doing this for so. long. I mean, and we know that even ancient technos, I mean, ancient civilizations depicted aliens and UFOs in their cave drawings, in their pictographs, and in all these things. We've

been seeing this for a very long time. And we have to understand that aliens are here, and if they're here, they've been here for a long time. You know, the Earth in general, from what we know at least, at least from what our quote-unquote experts say, how old Earth is,

we're very young in the universe. And so if you have an alien civilization, somewhere, even in our, even in our Milky Way galaxy. I mean, this is, you know, you think of Earth and how small Earth is just in our own galaxy, which is the Milky Way, right? We're a speck of sand in the Milky Way. I mean, hell, we're a speck of sand. We have a rover or a spacecraft that NASA sent out years and years ago.

It is the furthest physical thing that the United States or anybody has ever sent out to space. it has been traveling for years and years and years is still out there and still takes pictures back towards Earth and you barely, I mean, it is barely even a spec and is still in our solar system. Think about that. So imagine what our Earth looks like in our own galaxy, not even just in our own galaxy, you're not even going to be able to see our Earth in our own galaxy, even with a massive high telescope or whatever, but even in our subsection of our galaxy, we are a special.

of sand. And then imagine, you know, outside of our galaxy. Our galaxy also looks like a speck of sand even in our nearby galaxies. And then you think about our nearby galaxies. Our nearby galaxies look like a speck of sand in the larger galaxies from there. And it goes on and on on. It's called infancy. It is infinite. Shuri and I one night, not even going to go into anything, details That is mind-blowing. But one night, we were not in the position that we should have been watching a documentary about what infinite means in space. Because it just, my mind literally is blue. It's way bigger than what our brains can even perceive.

Yeah, because you start talking about numbers and math and zero and what zero really means. But it does make sense, though, if you listen to it. I want to go watch that again, by the way. But it's crazy. Anyway, so listen, so here is a Lou Alessando interview on CNN. I want you guys to check out. This is when CNN kind of starts to question him about some things. He was the actual, I guess, depiction of what CNN says he is.

Intel official who ran government secret UFO unit speaks out. So let's hear what he has to say here. Here you go. Recently, I guess it was in October. Astronomers spotted what they say could be the first interstellar. asteroid. You see it there, kind of that strange shape from beyond the system. What do you see when you look at that? Well, you know, Ms. Burnett, I have to admit to you, when I ran this program, I was fundamentally looking at my colleagues looking at two things. What is it and how does it

work? We have deliberately stayed away from going down the rabbit hole of who's behind the wheel and what are their intentions. Because a lot of people have a lot of feelings towards that and and are very emotional about that. And what I wanted to do is to allow the data to speak for itself and then use that data to inform leadership, senior DOD leadership, about the potential threat that these type of technologies pose to national security, especially over any type of controlled airspace that we might have.

So I'm not trying to be evasive in any way or vague with your answer, but I think there's a lot of possibilities. Look, and I know you think it's important. I know you think that the government didn't take the threat seriously enough. So let me just ask you point blank the question. Do you believe that life from somewhere else while you ran this program came here, visited, observed? I will tell you unequivocally that through the observation, scientific methodologies that were applied to look at this phenomena, that these aircraft, we'll call them aircraft, are displaying characteristics that are not currently within the U.S. inventory nor in any foreign inventory that we are aware.

of. So I know you're using, you're being clear, but I mean, the answer is yes. My personal, I can't speak on behalf of the government. Obviously, I'm not in the U.S. government anymore. My personal belief is that there is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone. Yeah. So, and by the way, this interview with CNN was kind of in his early, when he kind of first started coming out about this whole entire thing. So, but he even then, this was early, this was early on saying, look, we're not alone. I think one of my actual favorites is Lou on CBS 60 Minutes.

And this is when they brought Lou on CBS 60 Minutes. Check this out. This is, like I said, this is one of my favorites. So what you're telling me is that UFOs, unidentified, flying objects, are real. Bill, I think we're beyond that already. The government has already stated for the record that they're real.

I'm not telling you that. The United States government is telling you that. Luis Elizando spent 20 years running military intelligence operations worldwide in Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Guantanamo. He hadn't given UFOs a second thought until 2008. That's when he was asked to join something at the Pentagon called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or A-TIP. The mission of A-TIP was quite simple.

to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. What I guess in the vernacular, you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs. You know how this sounds. It sounds nutty, wacky. Look, Bill, I'm not telling you that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you, it's real. The question is, what is it?

What are its intentions? What are its capabilities? Buried away in the Pentagon, ATIP was part of a $22 million program sponsored by then Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to investigate UFOs. When Elizondo took over in 2010, he focused on the national security implications of unidentified aerial phenomena documented by U.S. service members. Imagine a technology that can do 6 to 700 G-forces that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that it can evade radar, and that can fly through air and water and pot,

possibly space, and, oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces, and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing. Elizondo tells us ATIP was a loose-knit mix of scientists, electro-optical engineers, avionics and intelligence experts, often working part-time. They combed through data and records and analyzed videos like this. A Navy aircrew struggles to lock on. to a fast-moving object off the U.S. Atlantic coast in 2015. Recently released images may not convince UFO skeptics, but the Pentagon admits it doesn't know what in the world this is,

or this, or this. So what do you say to the skeptics? It's refracted light, weather balloons, a rocket being launched, Venus. In some cases, there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing, but there are some that are not. We're not just simply jumping to a conclusion that's saying, oh, that's a UAP out there. We're going through our due diligence.

Is it some sort of new type of cruise missile technology that China has developed? Is it some sort of high-altitude balloon that's conducting reconnaissance? Ultimately, when you have exhausted all those what-ifs and you're still left with the fact that this is in our air, airspace and it's real, that's when it becomes compelling and that's when it becomes problematic. And you just cannot explain those things away. When actual military are getting these things on their radar and having a really hard time of even capturing them and when they do, they're like, holy crap, we got it, blah, blah, blah, we did it. We got it. You cannot explain that away.

And like he was saying, it's very important. You can say, well, it's not Venus. It's not a satellite. It's not, you can take away the what it's not, and then you're left with, what is it? And this is something that's out there that we don't understand on earth. Yeah. Or do not have that technology. No, you're right. And, you know, and Lou also talked about, you know, we may see different craft, right? We may see all these different craft, but that doesn't mean that these craft necessarily are not used in the same technology.

I want to play this clip real quick, and this is about, there's five observables. And I will tell you the first, I guess you can say four. The five is instant acceleration, hypersonic velocity, anti-gravity,

or positive lift, low observability, and transmedium travel. Now, Lou talks about all five observables could be explained through manifestation of a single technology, and I want to play

This is a short clip, but I want you to hear his explanation for this. Here you go. In commonalities, whether we're talking about disks or cigar shapes or triangle shapes, we had some scientists and mathematicians looking at this. And I think we are a lot closer now to understanding the potential physics behind these things than we ever have been before. I cannot go into detail of what that is and what that looks like. But I think we are a lot closer to that prize than most people think. It turns out that a lot of the observations we've seen from instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic velocities, low observability, transmedium travel, and of course, a positive lift or anti-gravity, if you will. For many years, we looked at these,

we tried to figure out each one of these observations from the perspective of some sort of exotic technology. And one of the findings was from ATIP was that it may very well be that all of those observables are actually a result of the manifestation of a single technology. And if you know how to do X, all these other things can now occur. And so that was a crossing of the river moment for us. It was very exciting for us. And it turned out that the math worked. And same with some of the scientific model. So yeah. So he's saying that if you know this particular technology, right, and I think they're pretty close to understanding it. And I believe that is the creation of its own gravity filled.

So if you can somehow utilize or manipulate that and create your own thing, right, even though we don't 100% even understand what gravity is, at least the general population, but if we can utilize and understand that, hey, these craft from another place, they have their own gravity field, which is how they manipulate our gravity, which is also how they travel at breakneck speeds. Right. 600 plus G's. I mean, Lou Al-Azander just said that. impossible.

Like, what are our aircloth? What is the fastest we've gone ever? Well, no. So, Gs are, you know, the gravitational pull on your body, right? And so you're either positive

or negative Gs. But nine Gs, you know, anything past typically nine Gs, which is like if you see, watch the movie Top Gun, for example, there is something in fighter policies called G-lock. That is the biggest threat

to fighter pilots in a dog-fighting situation. Because when you're pulling all these Gs, which is like you're doing these hard accelerating turns at mock speeds and you're literally pulling back on the on the stick and you've got all these G forces on you. It's literally feeling like you're, you know, nine times your body weight. Yeah, an elephant on your chest. Yes. And so it's basically draining the blood from your top extremity, which is your brain, which is what G-lock is. If you ever, which is why

many of the pilots wear these G-suits. What these G-suits do is they inflate to put pressure on your arteries to try to keep the blood where it is instead of drain into your feet because that's what it's going to do. And the reverse can be opposite with negative Gs or I mean, yeah, so, or positive Gs. But the problem here is, is that fighter pilots in most cases will pass out plus 10 to 11 Gs, right? You can't really do anything. Even with G suits, the technology we have Today, we just don't have a system that is capable of maintaining pilots inside of this thing, aside this airplane, past 9 Gs. That is the most the body can handle.

And that's even with G-suits, which does what it can to keep the blood in. But these crafts are going 600, 700, 800, 800 Gs is what we're thinking. 13,000 plus miles per hour. That is enough to crush your body. I mean, you're talking about 13,000, or sorry, you're talking 6 to 6 to 6. 700 times your body weight is what it would feel like on your body. Well, and I was just going to say, too, I've been in an experimental plane and been up in the air. And you're probably two, yeah, but what you did with Randy was about two Gs.

Yeah, and we did a barrel, but when we did just even a barrel roll, I lost my breath just doing that. Yeah, and see, that's not, but that, but that G was not pushing pressure on you. It was actually the opposite. So you felt lighter. Yeah. And it is just like, yeah. You know, like, you just. just had to take a breath. So just imagine it being sick, 700 times that. I could not imagine

because even that, I was like, I kind of felt sick, like sick after it. Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, so, so Lou also talks about the biological effects of people that get in close proximity to these things. Now, for those of you to have listened to our podcast for a while, and especially, like recently, probably the past month we talked about this, Tucker Carlson, which has been in the news everywhere. I talked about the guy from Stanford University that, you know, the families of these soldiers that got killed by their close encounter with UAPs or UFOs. Because of the radiation. Yeah, because of traumatic brain injuries from radiation and so on. Well, this is what Lou talked about as far as the sixth observable of these things, which is we talked about all the five, right?

The sixth observable is biological effects, which is what it does to the human body in our biology, at least from what they observe. And I think this is the clip. And I think this is the clip. that is mind-blowing to me, and we're going to talk a little bit about this, but here you go. It's all surprising to me that the human, if you will, the human organism, if it gets too close to something, can absolutely experience adverse biological consequences. Now, here's the interesting part. There is also some preliminary data to suggest that some, some individuals, actually report the opposite. So rather than having some sort of negative, biological consequence, all of a sudden you have somebody who's now, for example, a piano virtuoso,

who's never sat in front of piano before, or who now becomes suddenly super artistic, or who claims to have some sort of extrasensory capabilities or talents now, if you will, or a sixth sense, whereas before they didn't. And I find that even more interesting, I shouldn't say that, not more, equally interesting as a negative consequence. Yeah. So what he's saying here, is like not only have people been effed up by these things and close encounters. And look, Lou's not, and I will bet you a million trillion dollars, he's not saying this based on what he saw on the internet of people saying whatever their experience was.

He's saying this based on what the government, by the way, the Pentagon has released documents talking about the negative effects in some of the encounters that they believe have been proven to be contributed to by UAPs or UFOs. He's talking about this, right? But not only is he talking about, he's talking about. he's talking about it also does the opposite for some people, which gives them some incredible talent that they never had. They never picked up a piano or never set in front of piano. Now they have these incredible piano talents or some kind of very artistic ability or,

you know, potentially even psychic ability. These things are obviously real. These things happen. And that is, to me, like the most crazy or unexplainable thing. that I think you can kind of almost imagine. It's weird. So the other thing you talked about with biological effects is mutation or gene mutation. Check this out. What is absolute for certain and is now law historic for the first time ever in our nation's history is that biological effects are not part of this conversation.

Meaning if a U.S. service member or somebody gets into contact with a UAP and there are we need to study are there negative biological consequences that can be measured that includes by the way genetics right so it's it's if someone receives a radiation burn because he happened to come too close enough personal with the UAP is there a is there also some sort of damage genetically now we know there were studies that we did through Ossap and ATIP in the early days that looked at the potential for there to be some sort of genetic mutation on individuals who came too close to this type of advanced technology, whether, because we did see that, you know, if you come up to a certain point, there were these superficial burns that looked

like radiation burns. If you got a little closer, there was internal organ damage and potentially some genetic mutation occurring. Okay, I want to point out something here. He's talking about not only radiation burns, but you're talking about genetic mutation. Okay? And this is what he said, atyp scientific studies about this. Now, does he mean genetic, I mean, you've heard of like the potential of alien beings that are walking amongst us. Like the lizard people. Yeah, or whatever, right?

I mean, I'm not going to go that far, but, you know, you've got to start thinking about, when you're talking about genetic mutations, mutations. Mutations mean mutating to something else, right? Or whatever the case is. Is it possible that somehow, I mean, look, if aliens that have come into contact with people have somehow given them a gift or ability to do some kind of crazy talent they never ever, you know, touched in their entire life. But then you're talking about genetic muting. If they can do that, what's to say they couldn't mutate a baby? from a mother's womb into a partial alien that maybe has some type of mindset that the alien did. Maybe they're more psychic. Maybe they're more whatever. I don't know. But a mutation and genetics sounds nuts to me. But can I just say, aka somebody?

What? Who do you think I would say? Oh, God, I don't know. Also known as who? Who? Who do you think I would think? I have no idea what you're talking about. Elon Musk.

Oh, maybe. But I doubt it. I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? I mean, he does seem like an alien sometimes. He's not all human sometimes. He doesn't act like he's all human.

Yeah, you're right. Now, I'm not going to play this clip because it's only 17 seconds, but Lou Alessandro talks about that they have actually had instances of where they were able to bait these things, bait them into interacting or coming out, right? So we know that ATIP has experimented with that, and it seems like their baiting has worked. And that's the same thing at Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Which is exactly what I want to do. And exactly what we're talking about doing on Substack. Some of our things we're going to put a lot of effort and time in is going to be those things. So guys, if you want to make sure that you see those when they come out, I'm telling you, we're going to do this. Like, this is a passion of mine. I want to do it. Even the thing we just released about the potential alien base that we kind of found and some others are found. And we kind of do a big lead-up video to that as well.

That's over there. Yeah, I'm just going to say, Chad has started looking up submarines to buy. Yeah, I'm not even, no, not to buy. We can rent them. We can rent them. I mean, I can't, you know, navigate that. Yeah, I don't think we can do that, Chad. Now, if it's an airplane, I can fly it.

But I don't know about a submarine. Suburring can't be that difficult. Like, in comparison to an airplane. Like, I'm going to go to Hawaii. A lot of these things are in Hawaii, by the way. But I'm serious. Chad sent me something that it was a submarine for sale. Yeah, because, well, it was nine million.

though. But the reason that it was 9 million was because meters wise, right? So you got to think of anything under the water is meters, right? It's usually measured meters. And I don't know if you guys know this, but, you know, these crafts that are going

underwater, right? And by the way, Sherry, you actually, when we were doing that video... I was right. Yeah, you were right because you're like, I wonder if our submarines, like our Navy submarines, our nuclear submarines, I wonder if they can get that deep. And what we're specifically talking about is you got to go to substack to watch the video,

but a certain part of the water in the world that is very deep. Well, I mean, it's not as deep as some places. Like 2,000 feet, right? And I actually found out it's actually 3,000 feet in that area. So it's 3,000 feet deep. But do you know that they can, our submarines can only get about 800 feet to 900 feet deep? I mean, that, which is nuts to me. But, you know, you're going to have, you're going to need something that goes way deeper, right? But there is a submarine that can go like 2,500 to 3,000 feet deep. So that's why it's $9 million, I guess. But I think it's worth the money and I think we're going to do it.

If there's any millionaires out there that want to do this and go investigate with us, if you want to buy that thing and let's go, just let us know. Yeah. And if not, we're going to sell our house and do it anyway. Yeah, that's not even going to hit. I know. I know. It goes to that submarine.

Yeah, you're right. You're 100% right. All right, guys. And the last thing we're going to play you guys is this is his account on UAPs and nukes. And this is something that we've talked about heavily. It's been a big debate and conversation about why these UAPs and UFOs specifically target or at least are very interested in nuclear facilities. But even more so, what Lou Alizano says about their capabilities around nuclear facilities

should be even more concerning than the fact that they are just interested in them. Here you go. Yeah. Several of these UFO sightings have been above secret nuclear weapons facilities. Almost every major nuclear power across the globe really has reported and declassified these sightings. You have talked extensively about the connection here, which might be helpful, I think, for some people to hear in advance of my next question, which is whether or not the U.S.

government has considered utilizing nuclear-powered naval fleets to lure these kinds of of things to further study them. Wow. So first of all, Jackie, thank you for asking such a thoughtful question. Obviously, you've done some homework. And I also want to, by the way, thank you as a journalist for following this topic because I know there's a lot of risk involved. And I also know there's been traditionally a lot of stigma and taboo associated with it. So I want to congratulate you for your courage and thank you in your audience for at least having this conversation. But secondly, yes, that is one of the concerns we have from

national security perspective, that there does seem to be some sort of congruency or some sort of intersection between these UAP or UFO sightings and our nuclear technology, with nuclear propulsion, nuclear power and generation or nuclear weapon systems. Furthermore, the same observations have been seen overseas in other countries. They two have had the same incidents. So that tells us this is a global issue. Now, in this country, we've had incidents where these UAPs have interfered and actually brought offline our nuclear capabilities. And I think to some, they would probably say, well,

that's a sign that whatever this is is something that is peaceful. But in the same context, we also have data suggesting that in other countries, these things have interfered with their nuclear technology and actually turn them on, put them online. So that is equally, for me, just as concerning. I think that there is certainly at this point enough data to demonstrate there is an interest in our nuclear technology, a potential to even interfere with that nuclear technology. And when you look at all these naval ships out there, let's take the Nimitz battle carrier fleet, for example.

In some cases, you're talking about a nuclear footprint, probably bigger than most cities. You have a nuclear-powered carrier with aircraft on board that and then you have nuclear-powered destroyers. You have nuclear-powered submarines, some of those with nuclear weapons on board, or nuclear, certainly nuclear capabilities. I'll just say that.

So I think, yeah, it shouldn't be a surprise that maybe there is an increased interest in our capabilities as it relates to our nuclear technology. And the Navy is certainly not immune to that. Yeah. Now, what I will say about the Nimitz is the Nimitz has been plagued by these UFO swarms. Yeah, and he just said they had nuclear capabilities. No wonder they've been swarmed. Because he just basically said that they have. they have an interest in anything that has nuclear capabilities.

And that's where they swarm. And that's why they're around military, that they're around ships in the ocean, that have nuclear capabilities. And the fact that they not only can take weapon systems, aka nuclear systems offline, they have put weapons nuclear systems online. Yes.

Like, that's pretty crazy. Yeah. But, you know, the Nimitz in particular has been at the forefront of a lot of these encounters with UFO. foes, especially, I believe it was the battlefront carrier system or group, which is part of the Nimitz. The Nimitz is a carrier, uh, nuclear powered, um, carrier alongside, typically when you have these carriers that will have battleships alongside of them, because a lot of carriers are not able to protect themselves. They do have some, you know, some kind of mediocre protections,

but typically when you have massive nuclear powered carriers like you have the Nimitz, I believe the Nemitz is a carrier, uh, if I'm not mistaken, you also have these battleships. ships, which are nuclear equipped. They also do have very powerful weapons on board, you know, cruise missiles, so on. And then typically also alongside of that, you will have nuclear-powered submarines that are also underneath this strike group or whatever you want to call it. So it is very interesting, to say the least. It is.

And I just think about this, you know, everything we talk about UAPs or UFOs, everything is revolving around that they have their own propulsion. and it's their own gravity field and that when humans get around them, we notice there's a lot of radiation. Yeah. And radiation and nuclear power kind of go to, you know,

one hand and another to me. They all are like on the same playing level, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it's weird. I mean, you could say, you're right. I mean, it is strange because there is a connection, right?

You know, and I think Bob Zahar back in the day and kind of his account, with area S4, which is right outside of, and, you know, he was also at Los Alamos and, you know, and keeping in mind back in talking about the book and how they kind of, you know,

sent a lot of this technology to these probably area S4s in Los Alamos, nuclear, you know, testing facility and all that, it all kind of connects. And one of the things that Bob Lazar, and I believe what, Alizando said earlier is like I think we're getting really close to understanding the technology and I think like I said what that technology is is a gravity filled propulsion system that is around the crafts that interact with our gravity and and we have also talked about the physics or at least the

science behind that before when you have two gravity fields what they believe that interact with each other it creates radiation because it is like the friction yes and and particles and all of this stuff that are interacting which is also many people believe potentially what a lot of lights you'll see actually is created as the gas or that in between whatever it is, the friction. For sure. And so I think that's probably more than likely what causes radiation burns. But also we have talked about before, like with Travis Walton and his abduction with the fire in the sky movie. If you've not seen it, he was abducted.

He didn't get radiation burns. He didn't necessarily get injured. It was intentional. And that's what I was trying to say before. sometimes when we are around these UIPs, it's intentional to medulate, you know, medulate animals or abduct people. And sometimes it's intentional to be kind of an enemy point, you know, versus our military. Yeah, because a lot of the people that we've actually heard of that have been dramatically injured. According to Tucker Carlson, the Stanford University Brain Surgeon slash Neuroscientist, you know, a lot of the people that have been,

having killed, like, even though it's not officially on record, but Tucker Carlson's account, this brain surgeon guy from Stanford University, over 100 soldiers, he said, has died from encounters with UFOs or UAPs from intense radiation in the brain. Right. And then many others have been permanently injured or disabled because of this. The reason why this neuroscientist was even brought into this was because the families were not getting benefits or anything because they were not even classifying their death as a battlefield death because of how they died and they couldn't really explain that.

But then you have other cases of civilians, especially. Many civilians have been abducted and brought back. And I believe also, too, that there have been civilians that have been abducted and never come back. Yeah, I believe that too. And actually, I was just talking about that in the video on Substack the other day about this one particular incident. We talk about all these shapes of UFOs and you've got the Delta shape and you've got

the pill shape or Tic Tac. You've got the typical... You got the donut. And the donut in particular, from what you're talking about, is, for example, we did an episode on disappearance of people in National Forest especially. And there was a guy that did a documentary, wrote a book about that as well. I can't remember his name right off hand. But there was one in particular guy in Canada that he had went to this lake up in Canada with his wife.

And he had done this about a month before he himself went hunting in the same area. But a month before this, him and his wife were sitting on the beach. they were looking out over the lake and they saw this donut-shaped UFO and his wife saw it, he saw it, his wife said this in the documentary well then a month later he goes hunting

in this area and he never returns he completely disappears and not only that the weird thing about it was is that his belongings were scattered basically kind of in a triangle there was some of his stuff up on the mountain side which he could not have even possibly got to because of how steep the terrain was

and then same thing with the other section that was also on the other side of the mountain and then some of his stuff was on the coastline right and this is the dude with the camper i think right yeah well he had a little camper yeah i think he did yeah yeah with dogs yeah and he had locked his dogs or didn't he lock his dogs which is strange yeah so maybe did he see something but he usually always took his dogs with him and that's what was really strange is his dogs weren't with him he just disappeared yeah but you mentioning the triangle thing this is another thing that i have observed through all of our investigation, research, listening, you know, documenting.

Everything is in threes with this stuff. It's really crazy. Everything is threes. Triangle three. Triangle three. I swear to God it is. And a lot of these UIPs that we see are actually things that are able to change shapes. Yeah.

No, you're right. Shape-shifting, which, you know, if you go back to Corso's account of the material, which, by the way, I think he might have even said, maybe this material could have actually came from the craft itself, or at least the metal technology in this material, was part of also the craft, shape-shifting material. You know,

you talk about the bending capacity of this. You know, how does it bend? Why? There's a lot of questions that. But guys, there's so much to talk about this. We could literally go on all freaking night and talk about this,

but we're not going to. We will definitely do a follow-up episode on this because there's so much more to talk about. Like I said, this is our freaking passion. And really, our goal, I mean,

I know this sounds nuts. but you know what, we do shit this nuts and we don't care. We do. And trust me, we've always done this. But you have to have people that want to step outside the boundaries to try something to see, right? But one of my thoughts was, you know, I said this in a video on Substack the other day. You've got places like Catalina Island, which is a UFO hotspot. And that was partially what the video was about and maybe the potential why of why that happens over Catalina Island on our substack.

But then also we talk about Skinwalker Ram. right. Skin Walker Ranch is another portal type slash potential UFO hotspot. But you know what? We live in South Carolina. And so there have been many lists of actual, if you just want to go by data and want to see how many UFO reports per city in the United States, Myrtle Beach, actually, South Carolina. Oh, yeah, it's like one in the top. It was number one in like six different lists of UFO sightings off the coast of Myrtle Beach. And it's usually over the coast. There's a very famous UFO type siting of this person that was on a boat right off the outer banks, which is just north of Myrtle Beach.

All these lights appeared. They did some weird stuff. It looked just like UFOs, but this is seen all the time. And one of the things that my thought is was like, we need to get some freaking technology. We need to get a boat, and we need to go out into the ocean.

We need to film and document all this, and we need to somehow bait these things into coming out, somehow, some way. We'd have to figure out, like, what is it? I mean, we can't get a nuclear warhead. We could do radio frequencies like Skidwalker Ranch. Yeah, or lasers or something, something. But even our daughter.

Some type of high radiation. But even our daughter and her uncle had seen activity over Myrtle Beach. No, it was sunset. Well, it was sunset. It was North Carolina right close to Myrtle Beach. Yeah, 20 miles from there. Yeah, they saw the same thing. Red lights out in the ocean that kind of moved differently, weirdly,

disappeared. One of your good friends has seen one too in Myrtle Beach. There's so many accounts. of this. And I think since there are so many accounts in this area, if you could somehow get out there and bait it with something like Skinwalker Ranch does, like they use

the radio frequencies and the rockets. For example, because they know that's what works. If you could figure out what works to bait these things and then film it, it'd be really amazing. Yeah, well, Ryan Graves, the Navy pilot was on Joe Rogan. He was based somewhere

in Florida, I believe, and all of his training in sorties that he witnessed and where his unit witnessed these UFOs every single day. Yeah, for like 20 days. Off the coast. Yeah. And same thing with the Tick-Tac video. Actually was off the coast.

I think I actually said on a video. I thought for some reason that was off the West Coast. No, the Tick-Tac video, the big one, woo! Yeah, that was east. That was off the Atlantic. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, that's what I'm saying. These things are out there.

If we have, if we have a way, like, this needs to be our mission for like the next few months. Yeah, but we're not getting a submarine, babe. No, we don't have to get a submarine. We can deal with the bus. But if any of you guys, by the way, want to contribute or help us in any way to, like, if you have a connection with, like, I mean, we can probably get a boat in Myrtle Beach. But we could definitely probably get a boat or something. But I don't know. If you have any connections in the UFO realm of technology that we might be able to use, please let us know.

And we don't need a rowboat. A robot. Yeah, not a rowboat. Or a kayak. We're going to need something that has anti-radiation. Oh, and we're going to need one of those. You know, have you ever got like an x-ray? Yeah, we need those like apron things.

Yeah, the lady goes behind the thing. We need an apron and we need a wall. We need one of those thick apron things. Oh, God. Anyways, guys, that's going to be it for this episode. This has been a little longer. It's almost two hours. We don't do many two-hour episodes.

We used to, actually. But we're going to touch base because we're not done with this topic and whatsoever. Actually, we have a lot more to talk about about this, but this will be our part one. going to call this Roswell, right, and UFO UP, UAP. But we'll do a part two of this as well and we'll talk about some other instances that happened as well. We just did a Randall Shem

Forest, a UFO episode a few weeks back. Go check that out. It's about the UFO incident that happened in the UK. I think that was a great episode. Also very intriguing. And then there was the Brazil incident that we're going to be talking about very soon too. I think in Brazil, South America, wherever.

But guys, until next time, we love any shenver. One of you, please stay away from UFOs or UAPs unless you have one of those little things that the x-ray technicians have and a helmet yes and a helmet and like tinfoil on your head yes guys until next time we love you and peace peace out peace out i've been thinking of you since you broke it in a system can you stay a bit teach your mind