Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Secrets of Antarctica, UFOs UAPs & DEW Pt 1 | With Ashton Forbes & El Dave

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

In this captivating episode, we delve deep into the enigmatic continent of Antarctica, exploring a myriad of intriguing conspiracies. From the whispers of Direct Energy Weapons to the tantalizing poss...ibility of extraterrestrial encounters, we leave no stone unturned. Joining us for this enthralling discussion are esteemed guests Ashton Forbes and El Dave. Are there truly aliens or UFOs lurking amidst the icy expanse of Antarctica? Could this icy realm conceal some of humanity's most guarded military secrets? And might it even serve as a portal to the fabled hollow Earth? Tune in as we unravel the mysteries that shroud this frozen frontier. All of this and more on this episode of Secrets of Secrets of Antarctica, UFOs UAPs & DEW Pt 1 | With Ashton Forbes & El Dave

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone. Welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I am Chad. And on tonight's episode, we actually had a lot of requests to upload our Secrets of Antarctica episode with Ashton Forbes and L. Dave. And so we decided to do so. We're going to be back this week with a lot of new content. We're working on a lot of things. Also have some great video content coming from you guys. We've been working pretty hard on that. Got a lot of exciting announcements. But until then, enjoy this episode. This will either be one long episode or will be a part Part 2. Either way, you're listening to either part one or the entire episode. So we will talk to you very soon this week. Have a great week, guys. Antarctica, a land shrouded in mystery, secrecy, and intrigue.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Beneath this icy service lies a wealth of ignomatic secrets that have captivated the imaginations of explorers, scientists and conspiracy theorists alike. Tonight we dive into the mysteries of the frozen continent, exploring the possibility of direct energy weapons, encounters with UFOs, and the legendary accounts of Admiral Byrd's journey to the hollow earth. As one of the most remote and inhospitable places on Earth, Antarctica has long been a hub of scientific research. Yet amidst the scientific endeavors, whispers of covert military operations and clandestine
Starting point is 00:01:25 experiments have persisted. Some theories speculate that hidden within the icy expanse are secret military installations equipped with advanced weaponry, including direct energy weapons, capable of the air airscied of altering weather patterns or even causing seismic disturbances. But it's not just military secrets that are said to be concealed within Antarctica's frozen embrace. Reports of unidentified flying objects buzzing around the Antarctic sky a fueled speculation about extraterrestrial activity in the region. Could these mysterious craft be evidence of otherworldly visitors drawn to Antarctica's isolation and secrecy, or are they a civilization from our past?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Among the most enduring mysteries of Antarctica is the account of Admiral Richard E. Bird, a renowned expert, who claimed to have made a remarkable discovery during his expeditions to the continent. We will discuss all of this and more on the secrets of Antarctica. Hello, hello. And welcome to Investigator, the Secrets of Antarctica. We have with us, L Dave. We're going to add to the stage. And we got Mr. Ashton Forbes here.
Starting point is 00:02:53 What's up, guys? What's up, man? How's it going, everybody? Good to see you guys again. Absolutely. Good to see you guys. Great to see everybody. So obviously we're going to be talking about Antarctica, the secrets of Antarctica, and I know that we all kind of have some theories and thoughts based on what is going on down there.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Ashton, I want to start with you because we've got a lot to get into. But what kind of drew you initially to Antarctica? Because, you know, we've been talking, well, we'd actually mentioned talking about this about a week ago. But I think you've kind of researched Antarctica before this. What are some of your thoughts just generally on Antarctica? and what is it that made you interested in it? Well, I think, of course, there's a story of Admiral Bird. I watched a video about Admiral Bird going down to Antarctica, the South Pole,
Starting point is 00:03:42 and then him potentially having seen a big area that had no snow on it and supposedly found water that was not frozen water, that was 30-something degree, 38 degrees, something like that. There's, of course, the rumors that there is some type of entrance here to some luck, environment related to that. If you are a person, and I'm a ground earther out there, but if you are a flat ether, then there is also this idea that this is like the edge of the world, then this is the reason why you can't go down there.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So I found all of that interesting just right up the bat, but I'm more into the science side of it. And I think some people are going to be familiar with Eric Hecker. He has been on a number of podcasts. One thing I want to announce is that somebody who knows him showed him. the video clip that I posted from, I think we played part of it on Investing Earth podcast with you guys several months back
Starting point is 00:04:38 of the letter to Ashen Forbes. And apparently he's looked at that and he wants to talk to me, which is pretty cool. That's really cool. Yeah, I'm going to probably reach out to him because he's been on Sean Ryan. He was on with Rosam Barr, as well as many other podcasts out there talking about,
Starting point is 00:04:57 and we'll dig it more into this, but just as a little bit of information, he worked for Raytheon and he went out there. Raytheon holds the most patents for direct and energy weapons on the planet compared to any other company that's out there. So the reason why I find the way he talks very credible, I don't think he's a dishonest person. I don't think he's making up a fake story,
Starting point is 00:05:19 although I'm sure there's people out there that will say that. Because I actually thought back to my first podcast with you guys where how nervous I was talking through it because you start to wonder with the implications of all this stuff means and, you know, where the government silenced you for talking about it? And when I listened to him on Sean Ryan specifically, it was when I went, oh, this guy seems like a guy who's just trying to get the information out there and he's just scared about what this all means, what people would do to cover it up, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:05:46 So it's going to be fun to talk a little bit about the science of what I found out looking into his claims and the other stuff down there at the South Pole Station. Absolutely. Now, one of his claims I just want to get into real quick was he said there was absolutely no hole, no opening, no gap, and you can fly over that zone that he's talking about where there's supposedly a no fly zone, but it's got to be 8,000 feet or higher. Dave, what do you think about that? Because that kind of takes away, in my opinion, that theory of a hollow earth.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I think it depends on what you consider like the hole in the gateway. Like we learn more and more things about our physical world every day. Like there was a study that, not a study, but a release of a studies and information. that they've been holding on to it for a while, that there are three times the volume of water of all the oceans. So all the oceans on the Earth, three times that volume underneath the crust of the Earth. If you take that into account,
Starting point is 00:06:41 that means every model they've given you of what's inside the Earth is drastically wrong. Drastically wrong. And when you take into like what we're learning about quantum physics and just magnetics, you know, just magnetic energy, magnetic fields, how they're created, what they're manipulated, what they do, really. the fact that north and south pole are such focuses of that energy who knows what it opens up maybe it does really open something up somewhere and the best way to describe it is down
Starting point is 00:07:11 absolutely um i agree with that now antarctica obviously there's been tons of theories about what's actually going on there we got everything from direct energy weapons we have UFO encounters or at least sightings uh there have been whistleblowers and then even the admiral bird story actually what is your thoughts. Before we get into Decker, what is your thoughts on Admiral Bird in general as far as his encounters, what he saw? Obviously, he had supposed or alleged diary that he had recorded while he was there. Although, it's interesting because if you look up Admiral Bird on many websites, especially Google or your typical censorship search engines, you won't find a whole lot about his diary or what he said about potential Hollow Earth or some of the stuff he said there,
Starting point is 00:07:57 What is your thoughts on Aberra Bird and his discoveries or at least adventures down there? Yeah, I think my true opinion is it's probably been like a game of telephone, slowly adjusted over time where I think that people have to take a little bit of what he says out of context. Although absolutely believe that he possibly saw certain areas that were there were dirt. And I can believe that there are certain areas that do have fresh water that's running. And I think that's just a matter of understanding climate in general. Um, but yeah, it's hard to say because I mean, I, I don't like to really speculate if I haven't been there firsthand. Uh, I do think it is a little bit unusual that there are various treaties around Antarctica and even if you can't, even if you can potentially fly around it or what have you. It is technically a pretty desolate place where very, very few people end up going out to it. Um, so this is something where it just makes me interested in what's, what's going on with this place. Like Dave said as well, I don't think we should ignore the fact. that this is the South Pole where from the magnetic field perspective, you know, the direction of
Starting point is 00:09:04 these fields are going to be going directly upwards from the South Pole. So if you think of the Earth as a giant magnetite going around, they're going to, the magnetic fields are going to bend around right at this location here. And why this is relevant for me in terms of people looking into it, discovering it, checking it out, is that the magnetic fields are what kind of protects us from the cosmic rays. they call them, although I don't know what cosmic rays are supposed to mean with respect to the sun. But if we think of it in terms of electro-magnetics, then this is the idea where you're going to have all,
Starting point is 00:09:36 if the Earth is kind of bending these electric fields around us or whatever is being blasted us from the sun, you'd imagine that it might be going to this location as it bends around the Earth, both the North and the South Poles. So it seems like there would be some significance here in terms of why they would set up the South Pole Station in any kind of scientific experiments they'd be doing related to it. Absolutely. And it's interesting that Richard Byrd, he investigated the North Pole as well, the North Pole and the South Pole, but it seems like he had more interest in the South Pole than the North Pole.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, for sure. I want to play a quick clip. It's about five minutes, but I did want to play this clip because I want to make sure that everybody kind of understands who we're talking about here when we talk about Admiral Bird. And this is just a short clip, but I want you guys to check it out. This is Admiral Bird. And we're just a short clip, but I want you guys to check it out. This is Admiral Bird. what he says, or at least what people believe, that potentially he discovered. It's a very interesting thing, and I want you guys to check it out. Here we go. August, 1946, esteemed U.S. Naval Officer and Explorer, Admiral Richard Byrd, one of the first pilots to fly over both the North and South Poles, organizes Operation High Jump, the largest expedition ever to travel to Antarctica. with 13 ships, 23 aircraft, and over 4,700 military personnel.
Starting point is 00:11:06 This was very important that after the conclusion of World War II, Admiral Bird was asked if he would mount a large armada and go for four months. It was supposed to be that they would go in December, January, February. in March and there was a list of military goals that they were to achieve. But by the end of February, something happened. One of the mission's official goals was investigating sites for potential military bases in Antarctica. But during his explorations, Admiral Bird allegedly came upon something highly unexpected. This story is said to come from his diaries, not his published account of the trip, but something he held back and then later was suppressed by government authorities that found
Starting point is 00:12:05 it frightening. In his diary, which was discovered by his son after his death, Admiral Bird tells an extraordinary story. Admiral Bird heard there was an entrance to the center of the earth through the South Pole. And he took planes into the South, under the South Pole. And when he did that, he discovered that as he flew over the pole, suddenly he's looking at things that shouldn't be there. I mean, it was temperate. His squadron flew under the earth, into the earth.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It turns into this lush and green area, and he can't even believe his eyes. But that's just the beginning of his extraordinary story. He tells how all of a sudden he's... starts to see a shimmering rainbow city that's made of crystal. His airplane is taken control of when he suddenly sees these flying disc-shaped objects around them that lead him to the ground. Whereupon he's escorted into a cavernous type of an area where he meets a being he refers to as the master in his diary.
Starting point is 00:13:16 The master tells him that they're highly disappointed in what humans are doing. with nuclear weapons, how they've recently destroyed Hiroshima in Nagasaki, and they really are concerned about what is going on on the surface of the planet. They tell Admiral Bird that they hope that humanity will ultimately stop this. For UFO researchers, this account from Admiral Bird's diary is particularly significant due to the fact that the modern UFO era began right after World War II. and the detonation of the first atomic bombs. It has also been noted that a high number of UFO sightings
Starting point is 00:14:01 have been reported in the vicinity of nuclear missile silos. Admiral Bird's story is congruent with the stories that we hear from numerous accounts of angelic or extraterrestrial-type beings that are very concerned about what humanity is doing with nuclear weapons. Just ask the Air Force officers at the U.S. missile silos, the nuclear missile silos, that have seen their silos and their nuclear arms disarmed by what are perceived to be extraterrestrial beings. They're very concerned that we are ultimately not just going to destroy ourselves, but could harm our planet, which is their world as well.
Starting point is 00:14:44 If Admiral Bird's Secret Diary is authentic, does it reveal not only that there are highly advanced beings, living inside the earth, but also that they're monitoring what happens on the surface. According to the diary, after this incredible encounter, Admiral Bird was eager to share his story, but was ordered to remain silent. Bird comes back after this experience. He is taken to a government compound where he is told that he is never to speak of this publicly and that everything he says is, is classified. Could Admiral Bird's story point to a profound connection between the ancient traditions of
Starting point is 00:15:34 strange beings living inside the earth and the modern day UFO phenomenon? Ancient astronaut theorists say yes and believe we may be fast approaching the time when we will find ourselves face to face with the beings of inner earth. All right, so there we go. Isn't that pretty interesting? I mean, what do you guys think about, you know, this diary, his account, at least from potentially what he wrote? Dave, what is your thoughts? I would love for it to be real.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I would because I think it's awesome. Yeah. But I'm also aware that our government has done crazy things for disinformation, like buying Jackson Pollock paintings, the CIA did, just to make the Russians wonder what's going on in art. Not to mention buying various other artists works for incredible sums of money just to get them to be more capitalist. Absolutely. So this to me seems like a heck of a piece of disinformation to put it out there that is so crazy and out there that will, man, there's no point in looking at it, right? They're just making up stories, which makes me want to look at more if you're trying to dissuade me. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But like you said, though, he was a very admired person. He was big in government. he rub elbows with presidents. You know, he was very factual with his diaries. He wrote, you know, 1100, 1115, 1120. Every little factual detail is all factual that he wrote. According to him. According to what you're saying, when he said he met with a guy that was blonde hair,
Starting point is 00:17:18 had blonde hair in the earth, I was like, I don't think aliens have blonde hair. Yeah, I mean, who knows? Maybe they do. You haven't heard of the Nordics? Oh, everybody's. favorites you got a yeah apparently they look just like us but they're like tall and that's why they called them the nordics so who knows maybe it was a nordic bed they're like they walk among us is the ones or the nordics yes um ashton what do you think i mean because obviously there's some parts in there
Starting point is 00:17:45 where it reminds you a little bit of edward c land they took them to a military base they interrogated him they threatened him they said that um you know not to ever speak at this again now obviously this is all you know allegedly but we know know, you know, and to Dave's point, and Dave, I kind of agree with you on, on that. It's either crazy disinformation campaign, which they're very good at. But if it is true, it'd be crazy, right? I mean, it would be mind-blowing, more than likely not true. But, Ashton, what is your thought?
Starting point is 00:18:16 I mean, do you really, do you think that could be a disinformation campaign? And, you know, and this was so long ago. I mean, you know, this was a long, which don't get me wrong, government has been, in the business of disinformation for a very long time. People are just so much more aware of it now. They've gotten better at doing it. But do you think that it is even possible that that could be true? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 The timing is very interesting. Sure, I think anything's possible out there as well as it being disinformation, for sure. I think that anything out there is possible. The thing that I think maybe gives it some level of credit is the weird structures that people seem to find on Antarctica when they look at Google Earth. I know a lot of people know about these pyramid-like structures that are supposedly mountains, but have very unusual rough edges and very sharp edges on them. I was looking at another video that somebody told me to take a look at where they had done some
Starting point is 00:19:14 manual looking around, and they found what looks to be another type of triangle-type structure on a ridge where you can see it casting a pretty big shadow. and that they speculated whether or not that could be like some type of opening into the side of the mountains out there. For me, for this to have credit, the way that I would have to perceive it being able to be real is I would think of something like when they talk about the pole shifting events where maybe this was an area that was not always at the South Pole and that there was a past civilization that had built something there. And now it got shifted and that maybe there are structures and that were left over that had been produced. And you have to imagine, too, there have been some erosion over maybe it could have been thousands, tens of thousands of years, don't really know. I do really like the idea of civilization being reset, which I think is something that Graham Hancock and others have talked about repeatedly. So if there is some merit to the idea of a poll shift, then I think the idea that there could be a civilization there, maybe even, you know, driven underground, theoretically possible.
Starting point is 00:20:20 But we need more evidence, I think. I want somebody to go out there and invade Antarctica, like do a secret drop mission, you know, send them down and have them fly in and, you know, maybe just like parachute down and look for some type of opening and start taking secret video and see what happens. That's what I'd like to see happen. Yeah. And what we know for a fact, Antarctica used to be a lush rainforest because there are actual fossils of trees and plants and what have you that they have found. Yeah. So at one time, it had to be different than the tundra as it is now. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah. And a lot of that, they say, is contributed to at some point in time, some pull shift that happened, right? So, you know, when pole shifting typically happens, which apparently a lot of people believe that we have recycled civilizations. There are many people out there that believe in this wholeheartedly. They believe potentially up to seven civilizations maybe we have had on this earth. We don't know. but you know just like the book of adam and eve where they kind of dig into the pole shifting narrative the ancient civilizations or multiple civilizations one of the things they know is one of the things
Starting point is 00:21:28 science has shown that as they dig into the ice and they get the actual particles out of the ice which i think ashton we'll talk about this in a little bit about the neutrino uh system down there or what they are actually looking for but we do know that this was potentially a lush environment at one time. There are tropical plants that are there. There are all of these things. But what's interesting is these fossils, I'm sorry, were covered by volcanic ash. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:55 So that is kind of saying that there was this huge volcano eruption that caused, you know, kind of the ice age. What do you guys think about that? There's still volcanoes active in Antarctica. Yeah. Like they're under the ice. The one thing that we see pictures of the tundra. And the thing is the pictures we see are so scattered.
Starting point is 00:22:15 and we don't really have like a good image to hold on to. It's kind of like when you think of a globe model, I'm not a flat earther. But when you think of the globe model, the way the countries are spread out on maps, they're distorted heavily. Like in the United States, do you know what the closest state is to Africa in the United States?
Starting point is 00:22:32 The closest, oh, closest state, I got you. Maine? Yeah, because think of it spherically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So when you start thinking about like Antarctica and what's there, like the Volstocks, Volstock station where the Russians were drilling into the lake, that's 13,000 feet of ice. It's over two miles, two miles of ice. And then there's areas with the pyramids that look like tundra and dirt. That's a two-mile differential from plateau to whatever is the bottom there. I mean, it's an incredibly versatile thing, but they never really give us enough picture or description or video for us to really put it in perspective in our mind. I always wondered about that.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, the geothermal aspect is like really interesting in terms of, you know, if it further down you go, it's going to get warmer as well. So this is the part where if there is some kind of hollow earth theory, I could imagine that Antarctica would be the place. Like what Dave said, yeah, I had read that even at the South Pole station, it's like 9,000 feet of ice there. I mean, if you guys, 9,000 feet is when you can turn your electronics on an airplane. So the next time you fly, go on your airplane when they say you can turn your electrical. I'm trying to look down and realize that's how much ice they're talking about. Right. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:48 So I think that's interesting. The other aspect I was going to bring up, too, is the, they mentioned the nuclear. There's an odd reference to nuclear weapons in that story where they say he was told that these beings are upset about the nuclear weapons. This was a big thing where I think Robert Solis has a story about, you know, an engineer at a base and the nuclear weapons were getting turned off by UFOs. So some people wonder, well, why would they come up with this fake narrative if it is some disinformation that's out there as well? And I think that they could be covering up for something else that's going on there, especially when you tie it together that UFOs really got into the zeit guys after World War II after we dropped the bomb and after the Philadelphia experiment happened in 1943.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So if you imagine that we had some major advancement or that we stole some advancement from the Nazis or, you know, maybe we found some craft even before that sort of reverse engineering it, you could imagine that they're trying to develop some kind of story to not have people think about what the technological implications are of figuring out really advanced technology. Those are just some of my thoughts. Yeah. Well, and it goes back to like the food fighters that you're talking about in the wars as well. Absolutely. But listen, here's the thing. I want to talk about this for a second. As to your point, Ashton, when they talk about that potentially these UFOs were also involved or around Antarctica because of nuclear or whatever the case may be, I do want to just touch on this for a second because we've never talked about this, all three of us.
Starting point is 00:25:26 So say that 100% UFOs are real. what would be the scenario and benefit of UFOs if they are interdimensional beings, for one, or if they are from another planet and they are able to go at light speed, what is their real fascination with nuclear warheads? Would it make more sense that it's either potentially the United States government testing its capabilities to turn off nuclear warheads of our new advanced systems, craft reverse engineered or otherwise uh do we have that ability does the united states have that ability in its arsenal to be able to go over a facility to turn off or switch off a nuclear warhead
Starting point is 00:26:12 or turn it on but then the other aspect of it is like do you think that aliens slash interdimensional beings whatever like do you really think they actually really care about the people on earth enough to where they're highly concerned with our nuclear technology? Well, I guess I'll take this one first because I would say they're, I wouldn't say that they're concerned about us and us destroying ourselves. To me, that seems like a little bit too optimistic out there, although maybe it's possible. But what did nuclear weapons do?
Starting point is 00:26:47 They release an EMP, an electromagnetic pulse. Yeah. And from looking into the science around UFOs, Thomas Townsend Brown, and everything else. It always goes back to electrical engineering, manipulating electromagnetism. So what if the nuclear weapons that we are shooting off is actually it can harm them potentially
Starting point is 00:27:07 or it can knock their crafts out of the sky? Kind of like if you are a surfer who's surfing on a wave and somebody comes and just takes your waves out, that would be super annoying. You'd want to have them go and try to stop that in general. Absolutely. Also, the difference between phase, phase conjugation and an explosion, like a nuclear explosion, as my buddy and friend of the show here, Dave Rossi, has mentioned several times on various podcasts, is whether or not you have the waves make love or have them fight.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And when we're doing a nuclear weapon, we're having the waves fight with one another. And we're creating this huge exothermic event, this huge release of energy. And then the opposite, where if we are going to do kind of the opposite type of effect, be to have them make love, potentially cancel each other out. So there might be some relationship to the technology that UFOs use, other beings, non-humanities, whatever it is, and us having figured out nukes. Now, the last connection I would make is that, you know, what if we figured all this out at once during the Manhattan Project? But the only thing that's been made publicly available is these exothermic events, these nukes that we've shot off. But we also have figured out how UFOs float at the same time using very similar science. I think that's just something interesting to think about.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Absolutely. Dave, what do you think? Well, I mean, that's a three-stage question, so I have three-stage answers. So, as I'm always long-winded. I agree with Ashton on several points. That logically makes a lot of sense. I think that if the extraterrestrial from another planet thing, I've always been one to believe that if the curiosity leads them out into the stars,
Starting point is 00:28:51 that they're probably non-aggressive. because one of the things we can see here in our solar system, right, just in the asteroid belts, is an abundance of resource. An abundance of resource. Like, it's an unbelievable amount of material out there. And if you have the technology to do it, you're not limited. I mean, you're limited on, you know, they say, well, what about water? We know there's water everywhere. That's not anything new.
Starting point is 00:29:15 The only thing would maybe be proteins, but, I mean, we can synthesize and grow things. I wouldn't eat it. Like, that's not what I'm about, but hopefully if they're a million years more advanced. They figured out their T-bone recipe, you know what I mean? So whatever that is. And if they're coming here, I think their interest would be, hey, life is apparently rare, sentient life is precious. We don't want to see you do this to you. We're not going to intervene with you.
Starting point is 00:29:41 We don't want to see you do this to yourself. Come on. It's kind of like having that friend who, you know, has those lows and you always worry about them. You know, at the end of the day, you can't stop. anyone, but you try. You know what I mean? I'm always here. Just call me.
Starting point is 00:29:58 We're calling that guy every day until he can pull it through. I see that as them. They're that helpline. If that's what they are, if they're interdimensional or whatever that means, right? Yeah. We can only measure the energies released that we understand that are released from nuclear explosions, from radiation. We're discovering new wavelengths, frequencies, the electromagnetic bandwidth keeps getting
Starting point is 00:30:21 broader, right? The effects of things released keep getting broader. We keep finding out more. We really don't even under, like one of the things like gravity, right? We understand density and mass have something to do with gravity, but we don't really understand. We don't understand that as a fundamental. We don't understand the energy that that is implied. We calculate off it.
Starting point is 00:30:43 We have math because it's a consistent pool and we can measure it. But if you ask someone and you press them, what is it? Well, they're going to give you some kind of answer of whatever it is they believe. right because we don't know so if it has something to do with density has something to do with mass you're talking about highly dense elements with an incredible lot of mass releasing tremendous energy in a way that we barely understand right we barely understand this this isn't like the concept of the wheel these things are new within a hundred years yeah we're still figuring out I live next to one of the largest secret government facilities and I know tons of people who work out
Starting point is 00:31:18 there and they find out new things every day you know so that's something that's something something to keep up with. So if they're interdimensional, we could be doing damage over there. Or if they live in a parallel frequency just outside of ours, what are we doing to them? You know, they could be highly invested in getting us to stop. If I could feed on that for a second, too, because there's a couple other elements I want to add to is one is the one thing that I was wondering about alien life out there is I never thought it would look like us.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I think the two weirdest things would be if it looks, if it's completely foreign to us. One of those would be like balls of plasma that are sentient. This is something that I would have never considered, but after talking Salvador Pius, he dropped Joseph P. Farrell, who looked into it, there was an interesting scientific article posted about the idea of sentient plasma. And I've been recently looking at balls of plasma that could theoretically, I guess, be considered sentient, which I think is interesting because then what would those types of electro-magnetic pulses do to that type of life form? could be very damaging to it. And then the other side of it, too, is they looked like us, like the Nordic situation. That would probably be even scarier to me because they make me wonder, like, are we some kind of hybrids? Are we, you know, what is the situation?
Starting point is 00:32:34 Why do we look like that? But we forgot in our past. Did we get stranded on this planet? And now we've been slowly rebuilding like Battlestar Galactica, spoiler alert. But the other thing, too, real quick about Antarctica is that if they, I really love the ultra-terrestrial hypothesis when it comes to aliens. I think that that seems to make the most sense. They could come from the oceans, but they could also come from underground. Antarctica seems like a great place to hide if you're trying to hide a civilization.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You know, like we said, we got all this ice. You could bury underneath it. You could get close to the geothermal energy of the planet over there. And the thing that scares me the most in terms of what our nature of, our history might be is that we could be a prison planet where, you know, the cattle are getting a little bit too advanced and they're destroying one another. They're messing up the environment or they're messing up the electromagnetic effects of the planet that they use or what have you. And then they have to come in and, you know, regulate just like a farmer who's got to go figure, oh, what are the, what are the cattle doing?
Starting point is 00:33:34 They're fighting with one another. I got to go step in. So those are just some additional thoughts I had there. I think it's interesting. You talk about the plasma before I jump back to finish that. it. If you think about it, all's humans are, all as we really are is the electrical activity in our brain. We are an electromagnetic wave that inhabits a biomechanical suit. Like, you're not your flesh. You're your mind. Your mind is contained in here and it operates the nervous system and everything electrically. That's what you are. You're just energy. Just throwing that out there. But yeah, no, that's it. Like cattle, cattle to be cold. Too many calves this spring. We're going to sell some off. We're going to, you know, turn the heifers into, uh,
Starting point is 00:34:12 ground beef but yeah those those you know got a lot more and a ground beef but uh yeah it is an interesting concept so those are the two that i see most plausible that are yeah that are kind of out there right i agree um i agree with all that and i want to get into this eric hecker deal um ashton should we play at least a few minutes of kind of what he says and then we'll kind of break it down yeah Absolutely. I think you can play like either of the clips that I posted or if you guys have access to them as well. So one, he did one on Sean Ryan where they've kind of clipped it up to the main points. But he also did another really good one, which added a lot more information with Stephen Greer. I think it was a year or so ago.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And that one, he talks more about like the faster and like communication capabilities and the power requirements that would be needed to even have these types of arrangements. raise set up. And then I can add some additional evidence and facts that I found out afterwards as well. Hey, by the way, before we get to this video, I got to ask you something because I know you've followed Stephen Greer. You've talked to him in spaces and so on. Did you see Tim Burchett's interview or whatever he had about what his thoughts were about the CE5 events in particular, Stephen Greer?
Starting point is 00:35:35 And what Tim Burchett essentially said was, to me, when the CE5 events were they summons these UAPs or craft. To me, that's like a good old-fashioned seance. I think they're summoning Satan. Before we get in this video, what do you think about that? Do you want to comment on that? Yeah, no, I did see it. I do keep up to date with various UFO news that's going on out there in general,
Starting point is 00:36:00 although I'm only tangently connected to the community. But yeah, I thought that was an unusual response. That was not what I would expect from Tim Burchett. I thought that he would have shot down. the idea of CE5. But I think he also made a comment about, yeah, like the angels or demons or what have you. It reminded me of Congressman Burleson's response when he thought that if there are these beings out there, it could be that they are what we would have considered like biblical angels or something like that as well.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I think it just speaks to the point that a lot of people have this idea that the religious aspect within our government is the ones that's hiding this because they think it's demons or what have you as something is evil. But I think that this shows that the religious sect within the government, the officials and potentially military and agents, whatever you want to call them out there, are just trying to reconcile it with their preexisting beliefs and their belief system. And I think they'll be the ones that will be able to reconcile the information much faster than the people who, you know, just don't think that there can be anything special, the people,
Starting point is 00:37:08 the skeptics out there that think it's all disinformation. So I don't know. I think my opinion of Greer has always been that I think he's definitely got inside information that he's had access to. The science that he talks about lines up perfectly with what I've independently discovered. The part that I have a hard time with is just, you know, the stuff where these species have been talking to us and they're potentially controlling our government, but we know they're benevolent and some other stuff where it's a little bit harder to run into. though I did talk to Professor Simon Holland yesterday. I think the video just posted here today. And he has a contact that has been working with. I don't know if it's exactly setty or the EU setty,
Starting point is 00:37:50 but that he was arguing that we do have fashion like communication. His contact told him and that we've supposedly had communications with up to 18 different extraterrestrial races that are out there in the universe through this type of communication. And so I think that we do have to be somewhat open to that. And I think we should also be open to the idea that maybe CE5 really is. Maybe there is some type of conscious connection between us and other beings that are out there. And that if they do have some type of faster communication or travel mechanism that they could just appear. And I think that if it is sentient plasma, then that kind of closes the gap as well. Where if there's some kind of sentient plasma that can react, then that's essentially the same as looking up and just seeing
Starting point is 00:38:35 a floating light, which could easily be interpreted as a demon or an angel or whatever you want. That makes sense. I don't know. I just say it open to all of it for the most part. Yeah. Also very. One more quick comment on that, though, is that because I did, I retweeted a part of that speech with Tim Berluson or Tim Burchett.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And I think that he was told that people would riot and they would freak out. and he seemed incredulous to that idea. I think that a lot of people think, oh, we can handle it. At this point, I'm pretty sure we can't handle it, actually. I'm pretty sure that a large number of people will have complete and total mental breakdowns. I think that the fear of people harming themselves is very real. And I think that there's, of course, there's a significant percentage of people that will just go along with it. Let's just say it's like 50, 60 percent are fine with it.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Even if like 5 percent of people threaten to harm themselves, that is a, huge amount of people. And that's just not even including now the geopolitical and socio-economic impact that this type of revelation and disclosure would happen. So to me, this is the part where I give even more credit to Greer. One thing he's always said is that it's not just a matter. Disclosure isn't just a matter of the information. It's about raising our collective conscious to a point where we can then be ready to accept
Starting point is 00:39:59 it. And I think that's really the name of the game in this front is just us getting used to the idea. Yeah. And you're so right. There are so many people that would literally freak out if they even knew or thought this was really happening. Yeah, there would be a group called ASG. They would have a, they would have a flag and that's the alien sensitive group. But I do. I have friends that literally, they will not even watch any of our podcast because they're just so scared. Yeah. And like one of my friends or just even a thought. Yeah. And one of her friends, her grandfather swears he was in the Navy or the Air Force or something, but he came in, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:37 contact with many of these things during his, you know, the war, the wars or whatever. And she still like freaks out about it. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people, especially in the military that have had encounters in wartime situations I've talked to that said, you know, whatever I saw was not military. It was not of this earth. They didn't think. There's just been so many people that have reached out to us and said, you know, as much as I know,
Starting point is 00:41:01 about this particular topic or this particular weapon system or aviation system or whatever the case may be, there's just so much that a lot of these people that are very big experts in their regions that they swear by whatever they saw, whatever they encountered was not, you know, from this earth. But let's get into a little bit of this episode. I actually want to ask you another quick follow up on that I think is kind of a joke, but kind of not. I was like, are there woke aliens and which bathrooms to alien zoos, but the bigger question is, like, do you think there would be, like, full religions that would be formed if, like, they, you know, say, hey, yes, there's 18 species out there, like, that could be something scary, too.
Starting point is 00:41:42 What are your thoughts on that? Well, I think absolutely, because, I mean, I think that we are in a very religious time, although it's not anything that we've ever known as religion. I think that is a huge shift in humanity. so where, you know, humanity came from this concept of God and concept of Jesus or Muhammad or whatever, whatever you believed in as far as a lot of religions go. And then obviously you had atheism and you had agnostic. You had all these different people. But now there are so many people that are putting their belief and their faith in politics and politicians.
Starting point is 00:42:24 They're putting their faith in ideologies and movements. and agendas and all of this stuff. And so, and by the way, I already think there are people that have UFO religions. I mean, I literally do. And I hate to say it this, but going kind of back to Tim Burchett's point is when you go out on a mountaintop and you stand in a circle and you are holding hands and you're kind of like praying, I'm not exactly sure. But to Tim Burchett's point, that's probably what he means by what does it look like, right?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Does that look like a religion? Well, I mean, it looks similar to, you know, if you go to church and you have people to hold their hands up, you know. And by the way, I was always one of those people. I would go to church. This is why I was always very uncomfortable in church because, like, there were certain churches. He would go to church and like everyone to be like this. And I would just be standing here looking at people. And they'd be looking at you like, bitch you, you.
Starting point is 00:43:26 better put your hands up. Do you know where you're at? Anyways. I am so like that too because they'd be like, you know. Yeah. And I'm like. And everybody's looking at us like, yeah, they're going to hell. We know that for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:42 The question is, what kind of snakes do they have? Do they have the good ones? Do they have the perfect ones? I don't know. But I have been to a Pentecost of Holiness Church one time. And that was pretty, that was pretty fun. It was fun. I've been to a black church.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And they sign and the girl in the red dress to get up there because a devil was it hurt black churches are really fun they got some of the best music oh my god was awesome the most lively people i i love black churches and i love pentecostal churches every once a while you know just to get you your blood flowing um anyways but let's get into um eric hacker uh let's get into this clip and it's a decently sizable clip but we won't necessarily play the entirety of the clip um but we do want to get to some of the key points here i'm gonna see i'm gonna share this i think The best way I can share this is like this. Eric Hecker, share.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And then we're going to go into this format, I believe. There we go. And we'll play it. Here you go. What are you blowing the whistle on? That there are technologies at the South Pole station that people can't even consider that exist on this planet. Like what? Directed energy weapons systems is something that people need to get in their vocabulary fast.
Starting point is 00:44:56 The Ice Cube neutrino detector is not simply a passive listening device as presented for the science that they're claiming it to do. It also has the capacity to transmit. There are embedded in the ice, what are called digital optical modules, doms. They're about the size of a basketball. The array embedded in the ice is one kilometer by one kilometer by one kilometer. It is the world's largest telescope. And now because we have proven that it can transmit, it's the world's largest directed energy weapons system.
Starting point is 00:45:34 It is responsible for the earthquakes in Christchurch, New Zealand in 2011 on the front end of the year. All right. We got to pause there because we got to stop. Because there's already a lot there. Already a lot. Guys, I'm getting excited just listening to that. Like, I'm getting hyped up. I wish I had my martini here because I'm feeling,
Starting point is 00:45:57 Alex Jones right now. Where is it? I don't have my martini. It's a little too early for the martini at the moment, although now is probably fine. 75. Wow. All right. First of all, what is neutrino?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Let's explain what neutrino is. Well, let's just Google that one. Because the reality is like I can tell you what it is. I learned about it. Yes. Sherry. Go for it. Do it.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It is the largest satellite that is a listening device and that they're using it. Well, that's not what neutrino is. is it? Well, it's the largest satellite there is and it's a device. Yeah, that's the device that looks at neutrino, right? The neutrinos are the most abundant particles that have mass in the universe. Every time an atomic nuclei come together or break apart, they produce neutrinos. Even a banana admits neutrinos.
Starting point is 00:46:47 They come from natural radioactivity of the potassium and the fruit. The interesting part about neutrinos is that they supposedly can go through solid matter. So this is the reason why they supposedly set this device. advice up. And I guess people want to know whether or not, like what speed they move at. So this is the type of stuff we're trying to understand the underlying nature of, you know, what the universe in general. For me, the thing about neutrinos is that I wonder if this is really what the main purpose of this is, especially after listening to him there. So go ahead, Sherry now, now complete your. Sherry's point, babe, I think what you were saying is that it's the largest satellite neutrino
Starting point is 00:47:27 detector is like a detector and it's like faster than the speed a lot it's right now it happens right now but the thing is like you're saying it can be a weapon and i think that's the underlining message here is they're acting like it's just this thing observing and looking but it's not it's a weapon yeah it can definitely be used as a weapon um also to that point what what does he mean though ashen by uh how could they use that as an energy weapon do you have any idea what he's even talking about Yeah, I did a little stream on it yesterday, too, digging into the earthquakes and the probability and likelihood. This actually goes back to the other podcast we did about Chan Thomas. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:07 First looked into the idea behind it. And one of the key aspects behind the idea was that if you have an electrical charge carrying enough voltage to build up pressure and you put it near a tectonic plate near an opening, this is how they can potentially measure if an earthquake is going to happen is by looking at the piezoa, electric charge in the area and kind of estimate if it's possible those earthquakes could occur. This is when we were talking about can you predict an earthquake. Now, if we're talking about producing an earthquake, then you need to send the electrical charge, send the voltage to a specific point, potentially a weak point that's out there. For me, the first thing that comes to my mind, the moment he starts talking there, he says, there's technologies that we have that people can't even consider. When I heard that, I went, oh boy, I want to talk to this guy,
Starting point is 00:48:56 because I'm saying the same thing that's out there. And there's an underlying connection between what I've been investigating in this. And that underlying connection is called scalar physics. It's the idea that we can have a phase conjugate wave that cancels itself out. And now we can have some type of longitudinal wave that gets produced that can send energy to a distant point in anywhere in space or anywhere in the, you know, out there that we want. And this is the idea of wire. wireless energy. You probably think about Tesla right away.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And this is what a directed energy weapon really is. If you think about the purest definition of it, is that you're sending energy to a remote location that is not near where you have. And you potentially have an array that is going to send a beam that way. And then interferometry is if you were going to, say, cross the streams, so to speak, like in Ghostbusters. And if you cross the streams, now you're going to have an interference. And if you have an interference, you either have parts where you're canceling out or parts where they are amplifying one another.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And this is the idea behind scalar physics in general. So you can imagine that where would be a good location to put an array if you want to have it be able to cross a stream with another array anywhere on the planet? I would say one of the best locations would be the bottom or the top of the planet because now you have an angle on every single point on Earth. And this is the part where I wonder, wow, if this is a directed energy weapon, that's a great spot for it. And when you look at the evidence that he presents, he says it's one kilometer by one kilometer by one kilometer. There's 5,160 of these doms that are out there. Each of them can produce 2,000 volts. That's if you can multiply it together, that's over 10 million volts.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And if you have some type of capacitor that can charge that up and store that energy, now you can start to get to some extremely large numbers pretty quickly. And now the question would be, can you control the effect on the weather or an earthquake? I would imagine that more likely you can just induce one that's already about to happen or you can make one more powerful. But it does seem probable that if you could kind of create some type of blast under the water, you know, that this could potentially cause a tsunami or, you know, some type of rumble. humbling effect out there. I went ahead.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And one last thing I want to show is I wonder if I can share this myself. Actually, I'm going to just to try this out. We'll see if this works. Try it. As you're sharing, I want to ask you, now, did they use the ionosphere to bounce this off, the laser off to do this? And if so, if they did that, and, you know, I think we're going to get into the video where he says the earthquake in Turkey was an accident.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah. And by the way, what Sherry's talking about here too is so when we had a lot of Freeland on, right? And a lot of Freeland talked about how they charged the atmosphere. And so if you typically think about Kim Trails, right, you think about Kim Trails, graphene oxide, nanoparticles in the atmosphere. When you're talking about something like harp where it is weather modification, weather control, or weather manipulation, one of the things that most people used to think was, and listen, I was one of them. used to think absolutely Kim Trails conspiracy theory complete BS no way that's even true
Starting point is 00:52:26 and then actually Tennessee recently just introduced a new bill that was going to be banning or at least I guess questioning through Congress the weather manipulation and whether what they call cloud seeding and so a lot of Freeland says and she's a multiple time author bestselling author of harp conspire or not harp Kim Trails all this stuff. She's heavily researched. One of the things she said is they charge atmospheres, right? And maybe they don't have to do this anymore. But part of what Harp was potentially doing was they would charge atmospheres through some type of either graphene oxide or some type of particle they put in the atmosphere to where they could then be able to control the ionosphere
Starting point is 00:53:13 and also the, I guess, potentially lower Earth orbit in some cases. And so when you, you're sending this frequency or high radio frequency into the air, into space, into the ionosphere, you were then able to control potentially where that actual signal or energy goes, right? Now, I think, Ashton, a lot of what you talk about and a lot of what we're talking about, even with MH370 and probably even when we're talking about direct energy weapons now, I think we're talking about much more advanced systems because thinking about airplanes, potentially letting out, some type of particle that would charge the atmosphere to be able to utilize frequencies, to then be able to control that frequency in a certain location.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Sounds like a very old way of doing chem trails, right? And I think that you don't necessarily have to do that anymore. Yeah, and maybe even the contrails, chem trails that we see in the sky are actually just being produced by these types of devices that are shooting beams out there. because Thomas Bearden actually talks about the Soviets using these types of weapons, talks about them creating earthquakes that are out there, and talks about the kind of cross-stitch pattern you see in the clouds if you see them being manipulated above you.
Starting point is 00:54:32 So I think that this all does come back to scare physics. So the question of why are they looking in the ionosphere or magnetosphere, I would almost flip it around and say that's the detection side. If you know that other countries can utilize these weapons, you want to figure out when and where they are being used. So you can be prepared for them. There was actually even a news article. I think it was from Chile or something like that
Starting point is 00:54:55 where the U.S. government stepped in with their scientists to pull a bunch of radioactive material out right before an earthquake happened. And they got it out just in time. And you just wonder right away, why did they do that? And how did they know there was an earthquake that was just about to happen there? I just think that's something that's really interesting. I'm probably going to post them to my Twitter in a few days as well, because now I'm really starting to wonder,
Starting point is 00:55:18 you know, can we actually manipulate weather forces and things like earthquake on this planet? So go ahead and share this real quick because I want to show this Dom thing. Okay. So this is actually a video that was produced by Tom Montauk, credit to him, explaining scalar physics. But here's the part where I want everyone to see.
Starting point is 00:55:37 It's very short. He talks about what it would take. A spherical capacitor with an optical capacitor with an option. oscillating electric field. So I just want everybody to look at this diagram right here. This is a potential way where you can produce a scalar effect is a spherical capacitor. And remember, capacitor is something that can store voltage up. We talked about these doms potentially having to be able to have 2,000 volts that they can generate each 5,160 of them.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Now, let's take a look at a picture of the dom. That's a picture of one of the doms. Doesn't that look very similar to the, theoretical spherical capacitor that could be produced to create a scalar potential. To me, this makes me wonder, why did they choose a sphere for this? And when you look at it, it does look like it can spin on its axis just based on the design right here as well, right? It looks like it can spin around any way you want.
Starting point is 00:56:36 So once again, I'll go back to this and I'll play just like a few more seconds of it. So I'm just going to play. I'm going to play. Let's just play like this whole bit. Is there audio, Ashton? Oh, you guys can't hear this? No. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Sorry. So you can pull it up on mine if you want, but if not, actually, I mean, you guys can read the, there's a. I'll do it real quick. Okay, go ahead. Yeah. It's only a minute or so long. So let me on, on share. Okay, there we go.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'm back. All right. At the end of the day, just to give people the basis of this is that to create a scalar potential, we take Maxwell's equations and we say we're going to zero. zero out the magnetic field. And if we zero out the magnetic field, then is there nothing that's left? Should it really be equal to zero? Or is there something that's still there? And the scalar physical would argue there is something that's still there. And if we take that potential, that scalar potential that's left over, that can theoretically produce a gravitational potential.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And then if we shoot these, you know, cross the stream, so to speak, of two of these types of directed energy weapons, then we can get. the types of effects that we are talking about where you can send a charge or produce like an artificial energy or i guess it is real energy but an artificial potential somewhere in a distance i got you all right so let's share this um i do have it up now so let's see here share we'll go ahead and make this big so she's yeah we can hear the postulate says that the gravitational potential arises when there is a divergence in the magnetic vector potential and when the electric scalar potential changes with time in a curl-free way.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Let's break those down. So normally, as we discussed, the magnetic vector potential curls into a magnetic force field. But when it doesn't curl, and instead diverges or converges, that's what scalar physics says produces a gravitational potential. Divergence of the magnetic vector potential is key. Divergence is a math term meaning that there is a math term, meaning that there is a term meaning that there is some kind of expansion or compression in the field. In other words, the field vectors point away from or towards a common center. And that's the opposite of curl,
Starting point is 00:58:59 which involves the field circulating around something rather than converging or diverging from it. As for the electric scalar potential, that can also create a gravitational potential under certain conditions. Normally, as explained, the electric scalar potential has a gradient that forms an electric force field. And if this electric field changes over time, then according to Maxwell's famous equations, you get a curling magnetic vector potential that produces a magnetic field. But what if the curl of the magnetic vector potential is suppressed or cancelled out? What if you set things up so that the magnetic vector potential does not produce a magnetic field? A simple example of that for anyone curious would be a spherical capacitor with an oscillating
Starting point is 00:59:45 electric field. Then, what you get instead is a changing gravitational potential. So instead of a transverse electromagnetic wave, you would get what's called a longitudinal electro-gravitational wave. Transverse means that the field wiggles side to side as it travels, which is what electromagnetism normally does. And longitudinal means that it compresses and expands in the direction of transverse. travel, which is what these artificial gravity waves do.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I'm talking about things like ball lightning and exotic vacuum objects, the Bifeld-Brown effect, Tesla's wireless energy systems, longitudinal forces and rail guns, the exploding wire phenomenon, Stefan Marinoff's magnetic ionization device, low-energy nuclear reactions, plasma-based free energy systems. So with that one postulate that the magnetic vector potential and the electric scalar potential can each produce a gravitational potential under the right conditions. You open the door to Star Trek level technology. That's pretty sweet, huh?
Starting point is 01:00:50 That blows, that video blows a lot of people's minds. First of all, you might want to explain that in layman's terms. Because what if we're totally wrong about gravity in the first place, though? Well, if we're wrong about gravity, it's going to be a big problem in general. So two things that I want to explain there. One is a magnetic field. So just like the Earth's magnetic field that bends around the Earth. If we were to have a magnet, you're going to see the magnetic field lines around the magnet itself.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Now, when he's talking about the curl there, now, if you were to make like a donut shape, and you're going to have the curl kind of wrap around the donut of the magnet. Now, what if you can produce a magnetic field where it's perfectly zeroed out, where that magnetic field, there is no curl whatsoever around the magnet anymore based on the shape or the field that you create, then that's where he's talking about the longitudinal potential. Now, this is what would be referred to as a magnetic monopole, where now instead of seeing your bars go around the earth, now everything's just spreading out in every direction from the single point or it's pulling in. So these will be the two opposite ways. Now, you can imagine this like contracting space or expanding space.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Why is this important? Because that's the same concept as the Alcabary warp drive, is that you contract space in front of you, you expand space behind you, and now your object is going to float. So this is where all these concepts start to come together. Now, the other aspect is, well, how do you cancel out the electromagnetic wave? As we saw from the image, the transverse waves are going to have your up and down, and then you're going to have your perpendicular up and down wave going on the side. One of them is the electrical, one of them is magnetic. We use something called the right-hand rule to determine, okay,
Starting point is 01:02:28 if you've got your electric and your magnetic waves going in two different directions, I'm trying to do this on the screen here. You flip it off. Then the direction of the force is going to be equal to where your thumb goes. This is called the right hand rule. So you use your right hand and figure this out, and that's going to determine where it goes. Now, imagine that we cancel it out perfectly. So normally, let's take, we say a wave and we're going to have it bounce off of a mirror.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And if it bounces at an angle, it's going to, you know, let's say it bounces. that, it goes at a 45 degree angle. It's going to bounce off the mirror at a 45 degree to that, the way that it hit. Now, if you have a phase conjugate mirror, then what happens is when you take that 45 degree angle and you shoot it at the mirror, it shoots directly back at the source. It doesn't reflect off of it. That's what phase conjugation refers to.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And this is why when we talk about that H370, we're talking about macroscopic phase conjugation. So we're talking about a zero point system. And what that would mean then is that when I shoot my wave, it's getting perfectly canceled out by an opposite wave, exactly opposite to it. And when you do that, now you've zeroed out your electric and magnetic potentials.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And then what's left over? Theoretically, you'd think nothing's left over. but there isn't any nothing out there. And this is what your scalar potential then is. So imagine that we're shooting a beam out there. And this beam that we're shooting, potentially from the Antarctica neutrino detector that's out there, it has some type of phase conjugation going on
Starting point is 01:03:56 where the waves are perfectly canceling out. And now instead, we're not shooting a wave out there. We're shooting a scalar weapon out there that can send a electromagnetic force anywhere we want. or a gravitational force, scalar force, anywhere we want. Now, the other video that will help describe this, if you go back through my tweets and you go to how to teleport your aircraft, Thomas Bearden, now that you've watched that video,
Starting point is 01:04:20 will help put it in context for you guys. And I think that you'll begin to see that this type of science will allow us to potentially communicate. We can maybe cause an earthquake or other types of crazy effects to the atmosphere. we can even do weird stuff where we impact people's bodies. I think that this can explain Havana syndrome. And theoretically, teleport an object from one location to the other, using bending gravity just the way that was described.
Starting point is 01:04:50 So if you want to play that one, it's a little bit longer, but I think it's only a bit lower. Is it lower down on the- Just a little bit higher up. How to teleport your aircraft April 2nd. It's like the next day. I think I posted that one. And I think the audience will appreciate this because the science that we're talking about here,
Starting point is 01:05:04 I think that if you're a layman and you just come into this, you think this is all got to be magic. This is he's just making stuff up. Thomas Bearden, you said, right? Yeah. Yeah. So do you have the one of how to teleport your aircraft to play that one? It says what have been statistical before now becomes.
Starting point is 01:05:20 No, to keep going up. There's three videos. So, I mean, that one's anti-gravity and how to teleport your aircraft. Yeah, play that one. That one's the best one. Well, this is just mind-blowing, though, because everything I'm studying, too, with the magnetic sphere and how it goes, around like this. This is all like it's I'm connecting dots right now. It's crazy. And the Havana
Starting point is 01:05:39 is a lot of weirdness. Like I think we're going to find that it's not a microwave weapon that's being used as being proposed to the media. When I posted about Havana syndrome, people go and I said, who do you believe the CIA that says it's not real? Or do you believe the media that comes in and says it's real? It's a microwave weapon. And people go, oh, we can't believe either of them. And I think that's the answer is that they're both wrong. It's a scalar weapon that's being used because microwaves can't go through concrete. So these people are in an embassy that's got a ton of walls over it. They're not shooting a microwave weapon through the walls.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I don't know if you guys have seen embassies in other countries. They look like fortresses. Well, and there's actually a weapon in Antarctica that does this. Yeah, and this could theoretically be one of these weapons. And also we're going to look at some green lasers. But let's look at this first. So what is this video cartel? Yeah, I want to look back around.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Okay. So I'll just read the tweet on it for you guys as well because Thomas Bearden, this is from 1985. Thomas Bearden was a electrical engineer that worked with the government. I know people that knew him personally. He died a couple of years ago. And he had been warning the world about the real, the realistic threat of scalar weapons and that the Soviets had them before the fall of the Soviet Union.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And that these could have, he actually argued that these actually caused several ambassadors to rush it to die from leukemia because they were using it. Now, back then, they would have used huge arrays to send this electrical, or I guess it's a scalar potential towards the embassies, but they might have been able to miniaturize it in the last 30 or 40 years. So he says, or this is how I described, a scalar resident system is when you take your coherent matter wave in phase and produce a second wave the exact opposite direction. Like I was saying, 180 degrees out of phase.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And then you can make a current and increase. the mass or pump the mass out and reduce it. If you pump out all the mass, it will dematerialize. Through scalar infomerometry of transmitters, which is taking multiple transmitters and having them interact and interfere with one another, we can produce a wave in the curvature of space time itself, a gravitational wave. If we lower the potentials inside the interference zone, then we get a result that causes a disappearance of energy, an endothermic event.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Now, you can imagine if you take the opposite of this, then that would, if you increase the potentials inside the interference zone, you're going to get an exothermic event. If we take the energy out of one location and put it into another location by this process, then we've teleported a macro-sized object from one location to the other. This is important because even if we take energy out of one location, we have to put it somewhere else. Yeah. And the energy would have to come from somewhere else as well. Now, in this case, with respect to these doms, we're talking about they have 2,000 volts each
Starting point is 01:08:25 times 5,160. We have the energy. We can just move it from one location to another if we want. So to me, this is the very definition of a directed energy weapon, at least has all the capabilities of hallmarks. All right. Well, let's share this and let's see what you're talking about here. Here you go. I won't dwell on this.
Starting point is 01:08:43 I will simply state that all that a mass is anyway, a particle of mass, is in fact a trap scalar resonance. I'm going to give you a quick once over about scalar resonance and we'll go on. Take a normal resonant system with a way moving back and forth in a cavity so that it's in phase and coherent. suppose that there were two waves moving along together, but the second wave, the electric and magnetic field were 180 out, and the first one, that's a scalar resonant system. Your normal instrument won't even see it. We can build special detectors and how that will see it. That's all the mass is, but you can make a current of that kind of resonance, and you can pipe that current down a wire, or you can add to that resonance in a system, or you can take it away. What did I say? I said you can pump the mass and inertia directly into an object and increase it, or you can pump it out of there.
Starting point is 01:09:37 If you pump all of it out of there, it will dematerialize on you. And the statements I am making are based in part on experimental evidence in the laboratory. Private proprietary laboratories. You are no longer confined to the speed of light at all. If you're clever, you can get almost any velocity you want to, whether it's slower in the speed of light or faster. Tesla reported speeds off 50 times a speed of light. I have personally participated in an experiment which kicked out
Starting point is 01:10:08 an electromagnetic wave of this type at eight times of speed of light. And indeed, when you interfere this wave, you break up the coherence of the substructure. They now no longer summed a zero, and guess what that gives you? It gives you a non-zero vector in the E-field and the B field out there. Real energy now appears at a distance out there from two transmitters or two wave projectors, and yet what's in the middle is not energy flow
Starting point is 01:10:35 in the normal sense that we transmit an ordinary electromagnetic wave. It's really an artificial potential. The closest thing we have to calling it is an electrostatic wave. A more accurate description is, it is a direct wave in the curvature of space time itself. It's a general relativistic wave or a gravitational wave.
Starting point is 01:10:52 So if we have two projectors, and they might be two modified radar antenna, and we intersect them at a distance, we can produce energy at a distance. And that energy arises in the space time of that intersection zone. It doesn't matter if that's inside a mountain or inside a missile, inside an airplane, and inside a human body.
Starting point is 01:11:09 If I lower the potential of my projectors below zero, in other words, I make negative potential, I'm pretty strong negative. What happens in the intersection zone is not the appearance of energy, but the disappearance of energy. When I bend space time, if I bend it in one fashion, the local region looks like a source.
Starting point is 01:11:27 It looks like it's producing energy. If I bend it the other way, it looks like a sink. It looks like energy is disappearing. This is real. This is general relativity. What really happens is I either put the energy in here and get it out there or take it out from there and I get it back here and I better dump it or I'll burn out my projectors. Well, you make a dump and you simply transform it in the other mode and switch it over to the dump. Well, if you were weaponizing that for a big weapon, if you hit this thing explosively where you projectors and you fire two pulses so the pulses meet,
Starting point is 01:11:55 An interesting thing occurs. If you fire it in the high potential mode, you get an electromagnetic explosion at a distance. If you fire in the low potential mode, you get a cold explosion at a distance, the sudden withdrawal of energy in the intersection zone. So pretty wild, right? I mean, the big things there that I would just want to reiterate for people is he says, private proprietary laboratories, this has been experimented and proven in labs that are already out there, that Tesla had reported the speed of light is not constant.
Starting point is 01:12:29 They were able to be 50 times of speed of light. He said he's personally experienced experiments to show eight times the speed of light. Now, in order to understand that, to be real, you have to understand that what we see in our reality is not the underlying framework. It's not nothing. If you were to imagine the ether, that's where the speed of light can go potentially faster. And then the last part is he mentions the radar antenna being used as the transmitters. Who produces radar antenna? Oh, Raytheon, this name company that Eric Hecker was working for when he went down to Antarctica.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Seems like a pretty big coincidence. Now you can begin to imagine how all this stuff starts to come together now in terms of what there are the capability of these types of weapons, and why Eric Hecker went on to Sean Ryan and says, directed energy weapons are something people need to get into their vocabulary. Yes, you need to know. We can't consider. Yeah. Go ahead. What are you guys thought to that?
Starting point is 01:13:19 Let's hear some more Eric Hecker here. Because I think he gets into that next. Yeah, he does. Yeah, if we watch the next clip with him. Yep, here we go. We are going to go here. Eric Hacker, share. There we go.
Starting point is 01:13:32 How do you know for a fact that that was responsible for that? Because I was present and I have gone over this with the pertinent people that I will not be releasing their names. Okay. But I was that that was responsible for that. Because I'm just directed energy weapons system. It is responsible. for the earthquakes in Christchurch, New Zealand in 2011 on the front end of the year. How do you know for a fact that that was responsible for that?
Starting point is 01:14:00 Because I was present and I have gone over this with the pertinent people that I will not be releasing their names. Okay. But I was on the team, let's just say, and I've confirmed this. I've provided documentation from the actual manufacturer specs. So this unit was constructed, operated, and maintained by the University of Wisconsin, and just like every other device on the planet, whether you're driving an M1 Abrams tank or operating the Ice Cube neutrino detector, there's operators manuals that tell you how things work. Right there in that information, free for everybody to find. I found it myself. I was directed to find it.
Starting point is 01:14:43 I'll put it that way and release this information. All right. So I want to stop for a second because he's literally talking about manuals that anyone can just check out. Yeah, on the internet, the web. Yeah. Let me. And we had actually got some emails on this when we had talked about this before. I think we had talked about this last night.
Starting point is 01:15:08 We had talked about the Taiwan earthquakes, right? And what the interesting things was, you know, we got some emails and said, would people really, like, would they really leave manuals? annuals around and stuff like this. Yes. But also you got to think about World Economic Forum, New World Order Agenda, one world government slash agenda 2030. It's all in front of our face. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:33 It's literally on their website. They tell you what they want to do. And they are putting it in your face and they're saying, hey, this is what we want to do. This is what we want to accomplish. This is how we want to control you. This is what we want to set up. Here's your digital ID or social credit score. Here is this.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Here is that. this is what we're accomplishing we're also wide open borders no one cares about that i mean well there's a lot of people that care about that but they want you to believe that it's not happening although it is and so i'm assuming uh this guy has a top secret clearance um dave i wanted to get to your thoughts on before we get to ashton about this um what is your thoughts really on I guess what he's saying here. Like do you, first of all, do you believe this guy? Do you think he's legit?
Starting point is 01:16:27 And, you know, he was a custodial employee. Well, he started as a plumber and then he became a firefighter. And because he was a firefighter and to keep everyone safe, he had keys to every door in Antarctica. So he had, you know, he had keys to everything. Yeah. That's, that's actually true. the firefighter having keys to everything, because again,
Starting point is 01:16:50 I live near a secret government facility. And there's a couple interesting jobs that are a little lower than people would think that have access to everything that the president of the United States, he couldn't walk in to one of these rooms. But there's two or three jobs
Starting point is 01:17:04 that people would never guess that can go in anywhere because they have to be there. And the kicker is, they probably don't even have a security clearance. If they do, it's, it's, you know, janitorial staff that are contracted out. Do you think they spend the money
Starting point is 01:17:17 to give contract to do clearances on every person as high turnover rate that is yeah it's a very interesting thing uh to me uh because i'm a conspiracy theorist and i watched his same inter i watched an interview with him on uh patrick bet david that i thought was fantastic and Patrick by david gave a very good summation of it and he was like i don't know if you're telling the truth or not but i feel like i just sat down and played poker with maybe the greatest poker player he's like because i i don't know and when i what's that he's very confident Yeah, he's very confident telling it. So either he's like a, you know, professioning lying psychopath or, and again, because
Starting point is 01:17:56 I'm a conspiracy theorist, right, he's doing a job because the one thing we know is all these government agencies and all these black programs, they don't share information with each other. They may be, and I know this for a fact, they can be at the same facility. Like the NSA doesn't know what the DIA is doing. Exactly. The I don't know. Go ahead. say, no, it's just say different factions of the NSA don't know what the NSA is doing.
Starting point is 01:18:21 It is so compartmentalized and broken down. You have bureaucracy is forever, right? We have the illusion of elections and control and that we can do things. The reality is it's bureaucracy. Like we talked about Tim Burchett earlier and being in East Tennessean and I've met him. It's actually just Tim Burchett. When you meet him, he just says his name. Yeah, I thought Burchard.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Yeah. But you look at all that. it's just it's just a show right so what is he doing what information is he putting out there there's real science behind what he's saying 100% you can look that up but if your hackles don't get raised watching him pitch this i don't know it's a that's an interesting thing yeah it absolutely is it it is very interesting um and it's one of those things that this guy a whistleblower he reminds me is somewhat of Dave Grush, right? So this dude comes out from Antarctica. Dave Grush comes out from this program to where he has all these people that tell him all this stuff and, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:26 have firsthand knowledge of things, although he himself not necessarily having firsthand knowledge. I mean, he does allege you have firsthand knowledge on some accounts or some events, right, that happened in Antarctica. But there are a lot of things that he says is, you know, what people have told him and what what they swear to or whatever the case is right why do we keep getting whistleblowers that are the whistleblowers of people that tell them things right but he has first hand account he does he does as well yeah it's the best way around a security clearance contractor NDA because he didn't say it somebody else told him what was happening like I can tell you that I have a friend that works at a building that does very interesting great I can tell you
Starting point is 01:20:13 that I've been there if I have signed paperwork saying I haven't. I can't even say that it exists, right? Because I signed paperwork saying that, but I can say that my friend works there. And he told me X. And so long as it's vague enough, it's where do you put it down? And with all those things,
Starting point is 01:20:27 like if you get read in on something, you're not reading all of the truth. There will be specific lies so that if it gets out, they can track back to who it comes from. Compartmentalization is extremely well thought out. I mean, we love to, yeah, we like to think our government are idiots, but the reality, there's some brilliant people working there, especially the bureaucrac, certain levels of bureaucracy that seem to be there forever. And when I see these
Starting point is 01:20:51 like grush guys and this gentleman and a few of these others, I feel like there's a intelligence war. Some people want information out or they want technology out. And then you got this whole other host of people that are like, no, no, no, we're going to keep this down. We're going to keep this between us. We're going to put the, you know, I see it too, even with the topic. Like, We see the topic blur, right? What is it? What is going on? Is it the technology?
Starting point is 01:21:19 Is it our technology? Is it little green men? Is it transdimensional? Is it paranormal? It could technically be all of these things. And they're just using sophistry to blur the lines enough to lure you in and then break your heart so you don't look at the topic. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Now, you make a great point there. You do. And, you know, there's some things you want to believe so bad. And then there's parts of it you can't believe because, like you said, you know, the government does they want to mislead you well no one knows what to believe anymore yeah that's for that's the first problem and that is on purpose right I mean and and look you you have X you have which is a great platform I think Elon Musk is doing a great thing by by buying it trying to make it free speech even though you know I've said this before we've been banned on X more than we have any
Starting point is 01:22:07 other platform which is weird um and so there are definitely still parameters in place on X, but the reality is like, okay, so we have X, we have this platform, but there's also room for the government to fully manipulate the platform as well, even probably better than they can, in some cases, Facebook and Instagram, because, you know, it is a little more freer to opinions, speculation, theories, conspiracy theories, so on and so forth. And don't think the government CIA and three-letter agencies do not get involved in that and heavily to manipulate things, manipulate videos, manipulate this, manipulate that. There's so many things.
Starting point is 01:22:46 But I want to get into a little more of this Eric Hecker thing because, I want to give some feedback on that as well because a lot of stuff you said there. I think I have some inside information for it. Go ahead. I think this is the biggest thing, too, is that his credibility. I think that that's where they're attacking. The attack vector against him is on his credibility. I've looked at the comments.
Starting point is 01:23:04 It's, oh, he's a plumber. He didn't really know anything. I believe this guy 100%. after my own experience as well. So just to run down a couple of things, absolutely believe that the manuals and stuff are out there. As you guys have seen from the investigation I've done, everything's been open source.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Everything is out there. Cibber system is out there. It literally is a matter of just going and finding it. Finding it, yeah. Yeah. The plumber thing, you know, the people, who runs these sites? Is it the scientist or is it the bureaucrat? No, it's the people who are the maintenance people.
Starting point is 01:23:39 those are the people that know the most. Just like in an organization, I remember on a specific podcaster, when I was talking about the free-scale semiconductor employees, they go, well, those aren't the CXOs. So those aren't the most important people. I go, the CXOs are not the most important people at the company. The people that are most important people are the people that know how it all runs and operates. And that's what this guy essentially was.
Starting point is 01:24:00 He had keys to everything that it's out there. He sees the manuals of how they run. Later on, he talks about how he knows that the power requirements were not satisfactory factory for all the stuff that they had out there, at least what was on the books, so that something had to be missing out there. One thing I want to tell you guys about clearance is he almost certainly did have a clearance. As somebody who's gone through clearance and worked for a company where a lot of people get clearances, it's a huge headache because it's a big, long process you have to go through. Some people will get it right away. I got mine right away. But other people
Starting point is 01:24:30 take six months, eight months for them to get their clearance. And they can't do anything that requires the clearance until they get that clearance. So this is part of the reason why the government loves to hire people that already have a clearance where you don't have to go through this whole big process of getting it in general. With respect to believing him, you have to wonder, why is he lying about this if this was disinformation? This is really specific claims that's now drawing attention to this site here and making claims that nobody's ever really brought up before.
Starting point is 01:24:59 It's not like he's unearthing some conspiracy theory that was already out there. Like this is something that, you know, we got to talk about direct energy weapons. It's consistent with the science that we just looked at as well right now, which I think adds credibility to it. And what Dave said is really important about how the NDA works. I think based on that video you guys just played, he's got a very similar situation to what I've got going on in terms of people are coming out and they can't directly break their NDAs. But if they tell somebody else, hey, look into this, look into that. And I don't have any NDA. I can speak freely about it.
Starting point is 01:25:34 And that's what I've been doing the last six, seven months out there. I've been telling people we can teleport objects. I didn't fully understand the science. People have been giving me clues. This whole thing about the Maxwell equations and finding scalar physics came from my interview with Salvatore Pius and Dave Rossi where Salvador Pius says, look at Maxwell's B-field equation. And then I go dig into it. I find out that yes, it actually shouldn't be equal to zero.
Starting point is 01:25:57 It should be equal to A. And when you figure that out, and then all the stuff that we just showed begins to make sense. The big problem here is that like Dave said as well, and you guys said, is that nobody knows what to believe to be true anymore. And there are factions in the government that are fighting one another, some of them that want the information out. And you can imagine that you see the social media and all the stuff going out there and how nothing can be believed. David Grush even has his own stuff. And he doesn't, no one even believes him or a lot of people don't. He can be discredited.
Starting point is 01:26:27 And then it becomes a question of like, how do you get anything truthful out there? So the reason why they wouldn't come down hard on the people that are talking to Eric Decker or talking to me is because there are some factions that want that information out. And using the mechanism where those people talk to other people, give them clues, but they don't explicitly break their NDAs is one way to do that. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. I agree. We're going to get to that too. Let's get more into this here.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Let's share a little more of this episode. Here you go. And it states very clearly that each one of these doms can transmit at 2,047 volts each. So these are currently the facts of life. How do you know, I mean, how do you, what I'm asking is how did it even come to your attention that this triggered an earthquake? If you're at the South Pole and New Zealand had an earthquake, I mean, how did you know it came from the South Pole? Without divulging names? without divulging names.
Starting point is 01:27:34 I could only say that it was communicated to me from team members that were present and fully read in at the time that they were aware. And since that time, at the immediate, like the same day? Oh, absolutely. It was understood. Well, what was said? That we accidentally hit Christchurch, New Zealand twice when they were trying to fire up this weapon for first time. That it was friendly fire. It was not on purpose, but it occurred. That the system is designed for that. And it was just friendly fire. Incidental. So this is a telescope. That sounds like a,
Starting point is 01:28:18 is it a telescope? Absolutely. It is a neutrino detector, for sure. It can accomplish its primary purpose. It can also transmit and then provide a multifaceted platform for directed energy weapons systems. Do you have any idea how the earthquake was initiated? From misfiring the system. Where did, I mean... Where were they targeting? Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:42 I don't know. Does it go into the earth? Does it go into the atmosphere? It can definitely go through the earth. I would consider that it might be able to do stuff in the atmosphere. I haven't heard that statement laid at its feet, but I wouldn't put it past it. I don't want to try to limit the functions of this device by my imagination or experience. I believe that's one of the problems with directed energy weapons is they are not like standard weapons of old where you have a gun and a particular caliber bullet.
Starting point is 01:29:08 You pull the trigger and it does one thing. These platforms are way more complex than that. They do a lot of things. What else do they do? Excuse me. This system, additionally in regards to the neutrinos, it detects the neutrinos that are apparently coming off of the new exotic propulsion systems for either off-world UFOs or reverse engineered stuff on our planet. What is neutrino? Neutrino is a near-massless particle that goes at, close, or beyond the speed of light.
Starting point is 01:29:37 It is so small that it can pass between the electron shell and the nucleus of pretty much every atom on the planet. And the capacity of being detected at the South Pole Station, when the neutrino impacts the nucleus of the water molecule of the ice in the glaciers at the polar reaction occurs. The nucleus and the neutrino become destroyed. a muon is created and ejected, and a blue flash of light known as Cherenkov radiation flashes in the ice. And that's what the doms, the digital optical modules are detecting. That's the... All right. So, guys, I do want to point out something here real quick.
Starting point is 01:30:14 So he's talking about the potential of earthquake-causing frequencies or vibrations or whatever you want to call that, right? I want to play something here real quick. And I'm pretty sure. I want to add a quick fact on that before you jump into that, which is I dug into this earthquake, this Christchristian earthquake. And they couldn't figure out why it happened. There's no fault line where the earthquake occurred. And earthquakes are supposed to only happen where fault lines occur. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:48 So there's actually, this is kind of bizarre. And then there was another earthquake just a couple months later, I think, in Japan right after that as well. So I just wanted to add that little detail there, which may lend some aura of credibility to that story. Absolutely. And then you think about what just happened recently in Taiwan. Could this be a weapon that caused this earthquake? Yeah, because listen, let's talk about this for a second. And we're talking about Antarctica, but this weapons system that we're talking about direct energy weapons.
Starting point is 01:31:20 We know for certain. And I need to make sure that I still have. this up but there is a NDU press right so directed energy weapons are real and disruptive right and so this indu press who is indu press you might say national defense university it is for leslie j mcnair washington dc and they have a elaborate article right and so this article basically details it details advanced weapons systems in particular it details directed energy weapons.
Starting point is 01:31:58 It talks about microwave weapons. It talks about RF weapons. It talks about various different directed energy weapons. Now, this is from our own government. This is from an actual academic military university. I've never even heard of it. I'm sure I know someone that has that would reference this. What is his name again?
Starting point is 01:32:18 Damn, I'm not even going to say his name. But anyways, so this is an actual military government university. and their purpose of this article with directed energy weapons is to try to to push on the American public, to push on the people. They say, guys, we are in danger because China has stuff like this. Russia is developing this. And we are just so, we're just victims. We don't know what to do. We are, we, we, we don't have this system.
Starting point is 01:32:47 We don't know what any of this is about. That's bullshit, right? The reason why we know all about this is because we are so far more advanced in these. systems probably than almost all adversarial countries. We know for sure that China, as of the past six or seven years, has been they created this radar system, right? And it's supposedly this radar system. But if you actually look at China's radar system, it looks very similar to harp.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Now, if you know what harp is supposed to have been, harp is potentially weather modification, but it's also more than likely somehow connected to direct energy weapons, which I think a lot of that scientific research and DARPA, which was the number one government customer to harp. And so what do you think about DARPA? Well, DARPA is probably the, well, it's the most public clandestine. Number one customer. Yeah, number one, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:39 But it is the most number one clandestine public facing secretive military op organization slash unit in the United States of America. they not only helped work on the gang of function of COVID-19 with Dr. Ralph Barrick in North Carolina. They also worked and had contracts in Texas. I think it was not Baylor University, but maybe it was Baylor University. And we had talked to, we had talked to Dr. Pina McCullough about this. DARPA was involved somehow, some way in the creation of COVID-19. Not only that, they also had a contract in the response to COVID-19 and the vaccine.
Starting point is 01:34:27 And then also DARPA has and is the number one client, always was at HARP. And so I can only imagine DARPA probably has something heavily involved in whatever is going on in Antarctica as well. DARPA to me means evil. Yeah, it is. Evil versus good is what it really is. DARPA is, they are a kill team. I mean, if you want to look at what DARPA does, their mission at DARPA is to make weapons that will destroy and kill humans. Humans.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Yes. Absolutely. It is probably their number one mission. They are probably the best at it. And as we said on a podcast last night, DARPA is one system, right? But there are many more organizational units in our government that we don't even know about, never heard of that are far more advanced in DARPA. and I think the scariest thing is, is that, you know, when we talk about MH370,
Starting point is 01:35:24 we talk about a lot of this stuff as far as energy systems or weapon systems. A lot of this stuff, the United States government, Congress, whoever you are putting into office, have no idea what these private organizations actually have the ability to do with no oversight. But we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:35:42 They're trying. We're talking about weapons systems that could destroy the entire world. and one of the things that Donald Trump says, if you hear what Donald Trump says on nuclear weapons, anytime he has asked on nuclear weapons, World War III, Trump always says, you know, we talk about nuclear warheads, but, you know, the number one thing is,
Starting point is 01:36:03 if anyone knew what weapon systems we actually have, like what could actually destroy this freaking universe. Yes, this is worse than nuclear war. Yeah, it doesn't even compare, like what we're talking about. And is Donald Trump talking about directed energy weapons? happens. Does he know about these and how does he know about these? What does y'all's thoughts just on that? Well, let me jump in and ask. I say this is what do you guys think the documents were that the FBI came after Donald Trump for after he left office? Like that's kind of weird that Biden has a whole box of classified documents in his garage and nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:36:42 But for some reason they come after Trump. And how does it get reported in the media? It gets reported. that Trump was keeping mementos, mementos of what? What would be so serious that you are so worried that you've got to go and take them back from them because you're afraid that it could leak out there to the public? I would imagine that Trump absolutely, I think, knows about this kind of technology that's out there.
Starting point is 01:37:04 And I think this is the most classified weapons that we have out there up there with our hypersonic weapons, which, going back to the MH370 videos, I think those orbs will be classified as hypersonic weapons with a plasma sheath around them. I think that's why we see that. And then I think they're using the exact same scalar technology to disappear the airplane that we would be using for these types of arrays as well, which is really scary. DARPA, just for people who don't know, is Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency that's out there.
Starting point is 01:37:32 And then that harp is the high-frequency active auroral research program. So the part that gets scary is that radar is also linked to all of this. This radar is literally the form of the mechanism, let's say the module that is used to be able to transmit this type of energy. And it's the same mechanism with its phase conjugation is if we point the radar at a plane that's flying, the way stealth works is they try to have the edges of the plane itself be in a specific shape so that the radar doesn't bounce the right directions, that it bounces off in different directions from where the radar is hitting it. And this is where the phase conjugation comes into play. Because remember when I was talking about phase conjugation, instead of having it bounce at a different angle, you want it to come right back to the radar. Yeah. So now imagine a radar system that can create phase conjugations where no matter what I bounce it off of, it's going to come directly back to me.
Starting point is 01:38:24 You can imagine how this could just be converted into the west. Yeah. Exactly, with a phase conjugate mirror. And now you can imagine that this is the exact technology that we would be able to turn into a weapon. Very scary stuff, in my opinion. Dave, what do you think? Do you think Trump knows more than we think he knows? Oh, man, that's a, I, man, I hope so.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Yeah. I hope so. What does he know? As far as like the rate on his compound? What could be worse than nuclear? What could be worse than nuclear? What would you be talking about? Oh, no, a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Nuclear is the least of the things anyone needs to worry about. Like nuclear is a, again, I live very near the government research facility with multiple labs and crazy people who work there. nobody's worried about nuclear. Like that isn't, that's not anything anyone is freaked out about. That's not what anyone gets worked up about. In fact, if people had any idea how powerful our nuclear weapons were in the late 70s, that would have been the time to be really freaked out about things. But as of today, like, that's, nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Nobody's building these massive facilities to enrich anything or new triggers or, no, no, no, we've gone well beyond that. Yeah. one thing I'm aware of, and this is from the 90s, and I'm aware of it from the 90s. You're familiar, it came out when Harp, when Harp was making its debut in late 80s, early 90s, right? And they were building the array in Alaska. And people were freaking out about that because they were charging the ionosphere. They were doing that coupled with extremely low frequency magnetic waves for talking to submarines. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Yeah. And there you can still find some of the research papers talking about earthquake triggering and earthquake detection because of the, the frequency given out by deep underground earthquakes as the plates or and it's funny because it's not referenced as plates as the what is it like the the matter and energy moves underneath whatever our crust because fun fact we have no idea what's underground yeah yeah exactly you've ever seen i know just hollow anywhere yeah it's it's it's nonsense nobody knows the deepest hole we have is eight miles and honestly that's probably a lie because it was yeah but russia russia Russia actually built a hole.
Starting point is 01:40:37 It took them 20 years to dig this hole. And when they dug the hole after 20 years, guess what they found? Fossil, like ocean fossils in the Earth's core. Yeah. Well, they didn't even get that. They only got five miles. Yeah, they got nothing. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:53 But they still are seeing ocean fossils within, you know, deep within whatever paths the crust, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, we just don't know. But nuclear is not the thing people need to be worried about. Like the, what is it, the less than lethal deterrent systems that they have placed at various, you know, dangerous or, you know, high volatility embassies around the world that make your skin feel like you're on fire because it boils out with magnetic or electric wind waves your water from the top of your skin. That's, that's early 90s. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Late 80s they were testing that on Marines. That's so 90s. It really is. So think about it. That's a 30-year run. Skin melting is so 90s. these. What do we have now?
Starting point is 01:41:37 Keep in mind that Thomas Bearden was 1985 of that video. Exactly. 38 years ago. I found a CIA website that was going through his science as well that was from 1984. And I'm going to post that later on my Twitter.
Starting point is 01:41:51 But imagine this as well. Somebody in the chat also asked the same question that Dave kind of answered is, do you think nuclear weapons are obsolete? I think they're not only obsolete. I think it's a negative thing to even have them because if we can use a scalar weapon, And we can potentially trigger those nukes, even in their missile silos while they're sitting around.
Starting point is 01:42:09 And this might actually be, you could argue this is a reason for de-escalating and disarming the nuclear weapons is this thing is just a sitting time bomb. And this is also why you don't want it around major cities. You keep it really far away because someone shoots their scalar weapon at it. They trigger your nuclear missiles that are sitting underground, you know, make a huge explosion. It's going to cause a lot of damage. Yeah. And Ashton, and sorry, Dave, go ahead. But Ashton, in a second, we're going to talk about the nuclear system and just, I guess what I'm saying is, is that we're going to talk about if nuclear is no longer valid, right?
Starting point is 01:42:47 And if nuclear is no longer valid, why is it that Russia wants to threaten nuclear and all these other countries? Do they not know what we have capabilities of, which I believe wholeheartedly? But most people don't know that. I think the reason why the United States is being so whole wholeheartedly assholes right now and don't give a shit is because they believe, or I think maybe they believe they have a system that they control whatever is going to happen. Like if people are worried about a nuclear war, I think the United States government or someone in the United States government, don't worry, don't worry. We got this. Just let them fire whatever the hell they want to. And I think it even maybe goes back to MH370, but go ahead and David.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I was going to say something to look about to think about how defunct nuclear is is the biggest fear that any of the planners have are dirty bomb or dirty bomb infiltrations. But it's not a fear anyone has in the U.S. Because we have a nuclear detection program that runs off trucks in major cities. They, satellite overhead that can, I forget how it was done because it was explained by the me by people far smarter than I am. We can keep up with what's in a dentist's office. We can keep it with track materials. We got the signatures like this. If you've been dosed with it, you can be tracked by satellite across cut.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Like, it's unbelievable. So that's not it. Scalar or some energy weapon that we have that is moving, you know, particles faster than the speed of light. And like, we're going to launch off nukes at you. Okay. Go ahead. We are recording the sky in real time as Ashton has brought to the attention of everyone. We can fixate, lock, and detonate them over your country before it leaves your airspace.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Absolutely. I agree. I 100% agree. And listen, we got to get this video because we are getting more into Eric's story. And we're all going to like a grand finale here. So just just bear with me, guys. But listen, back to earthquake or tectonic weapons. Right. So this is something that Eric was talking about in the, in Antarctica. And so let me play. little clip here for you guys. Let me just make sure I share this correctly. Share. There we go. Isn't it cute how Chad has to say share? Share. Yes. Right. Nice. Now I'm going to push play.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Okay, here we go. Here we go, guys. Check this out. In 1983, I did radio tomography with 30 watts looking for oil in the ground. I found 26 oil wells over a nine state area and 100% of the time was accurate with just 30 watts of power.
Starting point is 01:45:28 beaming straight into solid rock. Harp uses a billion watts, beam straight into the ionosphere for experiments. Picture these strings on the piano as layers of the earth. Each one has its own frequency. What we used to do is beam radio waves into the ground, and it would vibrate any strings that were present in the ground.
Starting point is 01:45:53 We might get a sound back like, and we'd say, that's natural. gas, we might get a sound back like, and we say that's crude oil. We were able to identify each frequency. We accomplished this with just 30 watts of radio power. If you do this with two billion watts, the vibrations are so violent that the entire piano would shake. In fact, the whole house would shake. In fact, the vibrations could be so severe underground that could even cause an earthquake.

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