Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Secrets of Antarctica, UFOs UAPs & DEW Pt 2 | With Ashton Forbes & El Dave

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

In the riveting continuation of our exploration, Part 2 of Secrets of Antarctica delves even further into the realm of intrigue surrounding the continent. We delve into the potential existence of Dire...ct Energy Weapons, UFOs, and UAPs, dissecting compelling footage and testimonies from whistleblowers who claim knowledge of advanced technologies. Additionally, we confront the unsettling prospect of Antarctica serving as a clandestine hub for nefarious activities. Join us as we navigate through the shadows and uncover the deeper layers of mystery lurking beneath the ice. Alkkl of this and more on this episode of Secrets of Antarctica, UFOs UAPs & DEW Pt 2 | With Ashton Forbes & El Dave

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yep. So there we go. Guys, this exists. And let me read you something here, Wikipedia. Now, Wikipedia is a bunch of assholes that conglomerate there to speak a lot of misinformation predominantly, especially today. They used to actually be a good source. But what I will say is a tectonic weapon is a hypothetical device or system, which could trigger earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, or other seismic events and specified locations. by interfering with Earth's natural geological processes, right?
Starting point is 00:00:35 It was defined in 1992 by Alessi Vesso, whatever the hell that name is. I'm sorry, I cannot say that. But anyways, correspondent member of Russian Academy of Sciences, a tectonic or seismic weapon would be the use of the accumulated tectonic energy of the Earth's deeper layers to induce a destructive earthquake. He added to set oneself the objective. of inducing an earthquake is extremely doubtful, although plausible, though no such device is known to have been built tectonic weapons have occasionally appeared as a plot device to work as fiction.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Now, here's a thing. There was reports. Roger Clark, Lecture in Geophysics at Leeds University said in a journal in nature in 1996 responded to a newspaper report that there had been two secret Soviet programs, Mercury and Volcano, right, aimed at developing tectonic weapons that could set off. earthquakes from great distance by manipulating electromagnetism, right? Said we don't think it is impossible or wrong, but past experience suggests it is very likely. According to nature, these programs had been unofficially known to Western geophysicists for
Starting point is 00:01:46 several years, and according to the story, Mercury program began in 1987, and three tests were conducted in Kragistan and Volcano's last test occurred in 1992. Such weapons, whether or not they exist or are feasible, are a source of concern in official circles. For example, U.S. Secretary, listen to this. If you want to know, and you know how they, I love that when they say hypothetical weapons, right? Although they also say U.S. Secretary of Defense, William S. Cohen, said on April 28, 1997,
Starting point is 00:02:18 at the conference on terrorism, weapons of mass destruction and U.S. strategy, University of Georgia, while discussing the dangers of false threats, quote, others are engaging even in eco-type terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes, remotely through use of electromagnetic waves. Now, listen, I think that if you have a U.S. Secretary of Defense, which was William S. Cohen, that went on record to say, we have 100% proof that adversaries, but that's always what they say, right because they know what we are capable of so they know what our adversaries are capable of but to be able to uh what they're called call an eco-terrorism where they can alter climate
Starting point is 00:03:09 earthquakes volcanoes guys Eric is not so crazy as he talks here when you talk about what even Wikipedia although they want to say hypothetical they literally quote a U.S. Secretary of Defense where he's talking about this system that they know is in existence. So when we talk about the Taiwan earthquake, when we talk about China, sorry, we know China wants to invade Taiwan. I'm not saying that, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:37 I'm not saying that China created this freaking earthquake, but damn, it is pretty freaking coincidental. It is definitely possible. Just saying, what do you think? What do you all think? Yeah, so one thing I want people to remember is the letter to Ash and Forbes gets more and more credit every day that goes by.
Starting point is 00:03:55 My opinion, this is why I reposted it the other day, and it's blown a lot of people's minds. One of the very first things it says is all the world's problems are created for political reasons. This is what I want people to think about. How do you prove somebody induced an earthquake? How do you prove somebody teleported an airplane? If this is what's going on behind the scenes, this is the highest levels of spycraft and espionage happening
Starting point is 00:04:19 because if the United States comes out and says, yeah, China caused an earthquake in Taiwan, first of all, no one's going to believe it. They're going to think it's some sort of disinformation. And then the next question is going to be, well, can we induce earthquakes? How many earthquakes out there are being caused by our own actions? I mean, this is very scary stuff that's out there. This helps explain why it happens, how it happens, and why it gets suppressed. Because it's going to freak people out.
Starting point is 00:04:43 It goes back to the Tim Verset thing where Burchett, where he, you know, says that, oh, I think people can handle it. I don't think people can handle that there's earthquake weapons that are out there. And it goes back to the thing about nukes where nukes now become child's toys. I don't think they're completely useless, but for the most part, they might as well be. Our cibber system can pick up the heat signature of the missile within a fraction of a second, according to Andy Jacobson, who was on Lex Friedman's podcast, and I clip. And then we can shoot our scalar weapon at it, which goes faster than the speed of light, by the way, and it can destroy that nuke the moment it starts to take off.
Starting point is 00:05:16 How many of the SpaceX rockets that blew up potentially were the target of a scalar weapon? These are questions that people are not ready for. They are not ready for this information out there. I think that to the point you guys were saying before, and one thing I want to kind of very quickly circle back on is that I also think we use these systems to detect UFOs, because if it is based on scalar technology and scalar technology can manipulate gravity, then we can look for those techno signatures of the manipulation of gravity.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And if UFOs are using that out there, then it's a matter of just turning up the sensitivity. And then all of a sudden, now we're seeing them everywhere in the sky. And when they come into our atmosphere, we can detect them. And it all goes back to this faster than light. Remember even neutrinos that you just read off the description or he listed it, they theoretically move faster than the speed of light. If they're moving faster than the speed of light, how? This goes back to what I've been saying is that scalar physics allows it to be
Starting point is 00:06:09 happened because it means there's an extra dimension. And in that extra dimension, the speed of light is not constant. The vacuum permittivity of free space determines what the speed of light is. If you strip that away, now the speed of light can increase. The last thing I want to say is that I think Russia knows. we control the entire planet. We asked about, you know, why does Russia talk about
Starting point is 00:06:31 the threat of nukes? They talk about it openly because they're not the ones with the biggest dick on the block. They're the ones who have the second biggest or the third biggest. And so for them, they're trying to scare people. For us, we're really silent about it. You have Putin talking about super soldiers and hypersonic weapons. And he's doing that because he wants
Starting point is 00:06:47 to scare people and the thinking they're stronger than they are. He's trying to make people think their position is stronger. Very good point. The reality is the United States is the one that has something even more powerful than that that's out there. And this is the reason why no one messes with us. And to the point about Taiwan, the last thing is that I think it's very possible that that earthquake could have been caused by China.
Starting point is 00:07:05 That's a huge earthquake that happened. You know, most of the chips are produced in the world is Taiwan. Taiwan is a very strategic resource, especially as we move into the realm of AI. People sent me two articles yesterday that say that some of the microchip production may be delayed now because of that earthquake in Taiwan. on. Nvidia just announced there, I think it was black something microchip, 2.208 billion transistors on it.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's going to be 30 times more powerful than the last super chip that they produced, 25% less energy. It's going to allow AI to be much faster than it is now. So this is the battlefield, guys. This is the battlefield we're waging on right now behind the scenes that people don't even realize. Invidia stock, by the way, if you were in a, four months ago.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Damn. Good for you. You doubled your money. Yeah, I was not in four months ago. Dave, what is your thoughts on this? The earthquake in Taiwan? Yeah, just whatever. Whatever you want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Well, so I'll jump to Russia. I do think Ashton's correct on that. I think they're swaggering it around to make people think that there's still something. And they know we won't call them out on it because we'd have to show our hand to do it. China knows that too. Like they're just not going to do it. We're not going to do it so they can kind of say whatever they want. As far as the Taiwan thing, I wouldn't be surprised if that was us and not them.
Starting point is 00:08:34 For a lot of different reasons. Okay. As for the technology, I believe the government absolutely has unbelievable technology. I mean, near magic. How they got it. Who knows? But they have it. I think how they got it is an entirely different very long,
Starting point is 00:08:52 that goes down lots of weird rabbit holes. It goes down the kind of rabbit holes like, how is DNA discovered? Yeah. You know, and then you get into the lady phenomenon and the voice phenomenon and you get into these different things. One thing I know is there's people in incredibly powerful positions that have some
Starting point is 00:09:08 interesting views. I mean, these are people who have insight into things, right? They're on different committees. They're aware. And they have interesting reviews when it comes to religious context or go check out the public emails of Hillary Clinton and John. on-podested things they're into.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Oh, yeah. Right? Like, they really believe. Like, they're not joking about when they say, I'm going to sacrifice something to Moloch or whatever. Are these different parties they go to? And when I take things like that into consideration, and you have this kind of technology and ability,
Starting point is 00:09:36 depending on who you're able to get to play ball or what manipulation you're able to take. I don't know if I said it on this one, but I know I've said it on a different podcast, probably Alien addict, the one I'm normally on, is that I believe that there's large, like, alchemy still exists.
Starting point is 00:09:52 right like science in this base form is alchemy we ask questions we come up with theories we mix and match things back in the day it was you know chanting while drinking mercury then we're trying to figure out which one would kill you first uh and now we've gone beyond that but we also know given context like you know DNA was discovered because one of the researchers working on it was doing psychedelics and was having visions and something that explained to him the double helix model and then when he explained it to others they're like no and then they were able to prove it and they're like whoa and he got his Nobel Peace Prize and he's up there they just left out the you know the bean that came and told him what was going on thing yeah because that doesn't seem very nobellish but so we have these different yeah we have that we have so many strange events going on right now right like we're definitely we're obviously having the eclipse the sacrifice of the red heifer is coming up we had the bridge that was collapsed and we have this if I look at that from an occult perspective, I see you charging something up for a big ritual. You also have CERN firing the same day. And we know that if you look in the past, different heavy physics research happens around certain astrological functions of the universe. Which makes you wonder, why are we pairing these things up? And Dave, you are like from a Christian background, right? Oh, yeah, I was ordained when I was like 17.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah, that's what I thought. because I went through that rabbit hole today looking at, you know, the Bible with the solar eclipse and the red heifer and all that stuff. I was like, whoa. The firmament. Yeah, everything. Yeah. All of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Like, how can you like give us a summary of what you're talking about right now? Oh, so like occult rituals are based around different things. And I believe a lot of the people in power are in different occults, right? So they're all working together, but they're all working for their own game. Like you want something. You want to open something. like CERN talking about them hitting particles something in another dimension. They're running into things.
Starting point is 00:11:55 A lot of believe that, you know, these particle accelerators are set on top of doorways and gates. And there's a, oh, if I could remember her name, it was an interesting one. She's a doctor. She was at CERN and people there talked about different, what we would call phenomenon following them home, like paranormal-esque phenomenon as a result of things opening up and coming through. So, you know, whatever. But when you look at that, when I look at that anyway, I see a ritual being primed. I see destruction.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I see sacrifice of one of their own or at least somebody prominent in a belief system close to their own. Damage, movement of Earth, a blood sacrifice coming up and around an important astrological event. Right. So whatever they're going for, I mean, I don't know. I don't have, I don't share those beliefs. And I've got to be careful of the rabbit holes, right? They'll get a holdy and drag in there. But listen.
Starting point is 00:12:47 But listen, rabbit holes, rabbit holes, they want you to believe they are rabbit holes. But sometimes they are truth portals. Yes. Like this eclipse, like you're saying coming up Monday. You know, it's like I am concerned a little bit more than I normally would be if I was just like a normal person that didn't go through the rabbit holes, you know? Yeah. We went through one amazing eclipse. But when it goes directly to the Bible, the Bible talking about this stuff, it's kind of scary.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, it's a little weird. I think everything's going to be okay. I'm taking me, my wife and my five kids and my friends and their kids, we've rented a cabin in Arkansas. So we're going to be right under it for three or four minutes, like we were able to get right in the spot. It's going to be what it's going to be, right? Yeah, absolutely. And I don't think it's a world global thing. When I see things like that from an occult perspective, they're trying to do something specific.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah. Like bring something through. Absolutely. Yeah. And listen, they may. and by the way for everyone listen we are going to have a podcast episode on CERN and a lot of the stuff they're doing uh i think tomorrow um we got a lot of stuff going on and by the way everybody go follow just sex ashton uh paranormal day sorry alien addict check me out at alien addict absolutely alien addict um a great podcast episode guys but listen i want to play a little more of this clip um we are getting more and more listeners by the way our our views on here that is showing is not accurate because it does not show in a rumble views, which is interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Our live views. So I don't know what it does. But anyways, either way, I want to share this clip. We're going to listen to a little more of Eric Hecker. Here you go. Their primary purpose as presented. Now, whether that neutrino comes from a quasar out in space or a exotic propelled engine off of vehicles
Starting point is 00:14:43 that aren't being discussed contemporarily, it detects it. Thus making it basically an air traffic control center for all non-discussed vehicles on this planet. So just like we have all the other air traffic on the planet and it's being completely observed and attended to, there's just another level of craft on this planet and another level of air traffic control tower that exists. This is that facility. Back to tracking neutrinos. What is that? Why are they tracking those?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh, for the purposes of science, they're claiming that there's a lot to be ascertained by understanding the difference between low power and high power neutrino ejections from cosmic occurrences. It's about that vague. This is what they spend our tax dollars on. Let's talk about the, well, what else do they do they? do. The device is also for faster than like communications, quantum entangled communications at great distance. In I guess it was the late 80s or early 90s, Gary McKinnon hacked NASA. And he found that we,
Starting point is 00:16:03 he found the list of the off world space fleet and the captains of the ships respectively. We have a fleet out there. If we have a fleet out there, we need to communicate with them. this is that facility all right so Ashton we gotta go to Ashton What is Yeah you know I love that faster and light communication
Starting point is 00:16:25 Go ahead No Sherry Sherry was like no you gotta stop right here Because Ashton is going to talk about this All right guys Ashton Tell us what he's talking about here Bastard and light communications Quantum Yeah so quantum entanglement
Starting point is 00:16:38 Quantum mechanics Guys Everybody needs to start looking into quantum mechanics, we need to start looking into unified field theories, which is how we can connect what we're seeing happen on the quantum level through stuff like the double slit experiment, the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment, and the big world, the macroscopic world, general relativity that we see out there. With respect to, you know, faster than light communication, the question is, can we use entanglement, this idea that if I take a particle and I have this
Starting point is 00:17:13 other particle that's connected to it. And I shoot this particle way over here. And this particle shoots way over here. And I change this particle that there's a corresponding change here. Now, if I turn it to the left, let's say, that this one automatically turns to the right or vice versa. Well, that's something that we can measure. That's something that now we can send a message. So imagine like Morse code, for example. We're just doing like dots, but we can then convert it to something that it can be language-based. But is it kind of like a slingshot too? Well, I think gunter image
Starting point is 00:17:44 Where one particle can like push another particle A different like boom You know what I'm saying? Do you want to think of it just in terms of like simple metaphor or logic? What I think of is imagine a pole, a very pole that goes for light years and distance And you spin the pole in one side of it. Now the other side of it's going to spin as well at the same time. That's how you want to kind of think of it in terms of if you were to send a message.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And if I turn it to the right, then it means letter A or it means I'm safe or yes or no, however you want to think of it. Remember, from computer perspective, everything's with ones and zeros. The Gunter Nimitz experiment back in 2005 showed that if they shoots a beam of light through a prism and has that then it gets reflected back, that there's actually an evanescent wave where some invisible, it's kind of like a little invisible wave will continue forward and it'll hit another prism. And between the two prisms that you have, that light is moving faster in the speed of light, that it instantly shows up in the second prism, regardless of distance that's out there.
Starting point is 00:18:43 People recreated this experiment in 2019 and they won a physics prize for doing so, even though Gunther Nimitz didn't show up to his proof of concept in 2005 for it. And people then question whether or not it was really possible. And again, if we can send this just a beam of light or whatever we need to send a photon. And it can go anywhere. Yeah, and if it can go anywhere and it can get there,
Starting point is 00:19:08 faster than the speed of light, now we have this idea of faster than light communication. I've been on the idea of fashion like communication since, I want to say around 2008 or 2012, somewhere in that range. This is when I was still full CNN brain, as I call it, full plugged into the matrix. And I was looking at the Curiosity rover. And I remember reading a blog article where somebody said that they had argued that the Department of Defense had already figured out faster than light communication. and they had a back door into the Curiosity rover
Starting point is 00:19:40 where they were getting pictures and information back at the speed of light. They weren't having to wait the 8 or 30 minutes, whatever it takes for the speed of light to get from Mars to the Earth. And I thought, well, that's a weird concept. And that was actually probably the beginning of my discovery of really dig into the science of quantum mechanics.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And the more I dug into it, the more I learned it's actually real, that it's actually out there, that's actually consistent with the physics as we understand it. And that's where I've always wanted to know. how is that possible? And that's led us to where we're at today with hanging out with you guys and talking about this stuff. And I want to ask David a question about that too.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Sorry, Chad. But that has to do with the density, right? It has a, like a lot of it has to do with density. Well, so the big thing is like what's the permittivity of free space is what they say. And the permittivity of free space is like if you were to take a laser and you were shoot it through a glass of water, you're going to see this refraction where it bends a little bit. Well, that same thing is happening to the laser in free space, in the air, out and outer space as well. We just don't perceive it because we think that that's all there is, that, you know, what does nothing mean? And if we think of nothing in terms of space, it's not that there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:49 There's still something out there. It's just there's little electrons and stuff flashing in and out. But then underneath that, what is there? And if we were to really get to the nothing and the underlying matrix or construct, the fifth dimension, if you want to think of it like that. And I don't say the fifth dimension is like a, you know, sci-fi thing. The reason why I say fifth dimension is you have three spatial dimensions. We have forward and back. We have left and right.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And we have up and down. And then the fourth dimension is the time dimension. Time is moving forward. That's what gravity is. Things are just converging on one another due to curvature. Maybe it's moving forward. Do you think it's really moved forward? No, I think that time is an illusion as well.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I mean, I think the time, the quantum eraser double slit. The delayed choice quantum eraser experiment proves that time is an illusion. because when you entangle two electrons, and the first electron hits the first detector, it hits a location. And that location relates to where the entangled photon is going to hit on one of four different detectors. And the thing that's important about this is that we can actually rule out
Starting point is 00:21:49 potentially what detector is not going to hit based on where we see it in the first one. But the thing that's weird about this is that that entangled photon hasn't even hit the randomizer yet in terms of local time. And what that means is that the future, where that photons hitting in the future is somehow impacting the past or the present, if you want to think of it like that. And this in my mind proves that time is an illusion and that we just don't, we just perceive it
Starting point is 00:22:13 linearly. But the underlying framework of the universe doesn't see it that same way. Absolutely. No, I get it. And by the way, guys, I want to point this out for a second. We have a lot of viewers right now. We are going up. We actually have a lot of viewers on Rumble and X.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I want to ask you guys a favor real quick. How many minutes do you guys have left? Do you think 30 minutes maybe somewhere in there? Is that good? I'm fine. Talking to us. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:38 You're going. You're good. Okay. I want to plug some stuff. Do a commercial or whatever we're going to do here. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:22:43 no, no, no. I want everyone to share this, right? Every one of you guys, if you, if you love Ashton, you love Dave, you love me and Sherry.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Oh, I'm always. I want you guys to share. I should be first, guys. Okay. Well, Sherry, if you love Sherry, me,
Starting point is 00:22:59 Dave, Dave, Dave Ashton. No, It should be sherry. Whatever. It doesn't matter. But either way.
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Starting point is 00:23:15 Ashen and Dave, I figured out we actually have a lot. I mean, I think we have about 7 or 800 live years right now. And I'm going to give you guys a marketing point. You remember last week we did the P-Ditty episode, right? Mm-hmm. So it was trending on X.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And so the time we did the live video, it was trending. And so X, their algorithm said, oh, P. Diddy, trending, live video. Oh, here we go. So it pushed us better. It pushed us more, right? But what we have right now is very organic. It is through our means. But guys, get our-
Starting point is 00:23:51 Welcome, guys. Get our viewers up. Share it wherever you are. We're going to get into a lot more stuff, at least for 30 minutes, at least for 30 minutes. So share it with whoever that you think would enjoy this. Guys, I want to get in a little more of Eric Hecker video here. And we're going to get a little deeper because I got some deep questions to ask Ashton and Dave a lot deeper than we've ever even talked about probably on any podcasts or episode we've ever done. There's a lot of people who don't know Ashton
Starting point is 00:24:24 the way that I'm going to probably expose him in just a second. And, and, And I'm getting exposed, guys. No. Don't release this corridor V2. No. And, and Dave,
Starting point is 00:24:38 Dave, by the way, Dave's, you can release those pictures. That's fine. I'm proud, man. Dave, I have the pictures.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Dave, I have the pictures. Dave, I have the pictures, bro. I've already created the only fans based on you, okay?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Oh, my. And I'm making all the money. Which is, you know, you should be proud. I'm enjoying it. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Because of personal pleasure. As male only fans, very untapped market. I think Channing Tatum has cornered it right now, but we're going to get into that market, guys. Absolutely. I think we should. And I am in the market because I got Dave's pictures. I am going to be the CEO of this. No, I got Dave's pictures, so, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:16 All right, here we go. So here is a little more of Eric Decker on the NARDICT thing. Here we go. Can you explain quantum entanglement communications? Yes, I don't think most people understand what I'm about to say anyway, but I will. The way quantum entanglement works is that you can take two particles, quantum entangle them, and then take those two particles and move them at any distance in the cosmos. And let's just say, for example, if you quantum entangle two electrons and you have them spinning in the same direction,
Starting point is 00:25:50 and then you take one of those electrons and you shoot that thing out 100,000 light years from the original. If you then rotate the spin on the one electron, if you modify it so that its spin changes, the quantum entangled electron at any distance will simultaneously in no time switch its rotation also because they're quantum entangled. So these communication systems are taking advantage of this aspect of quantum mechanics that most people can't wrap their heads around. And this is what they're utilizing. It's just the new level of science that affords us the ability to communicate at any distance instantaneously. I've heard about this. I've tried to dig into it and it's hard to understand.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It is hard to understand. It would be my best way to put it is that when electricity first came out, it was very hard for a lot of people to understand what Nikola Tesla was getting at. But we can, we'd still, everyone was using it before they even understood it. And this is just where we are right now. It's just a new technology. It's a new conversation. People don't have to understand it yet. They just have to realize it's real.
Starting point is 00:27:08 What other kind of things can this? Oh, boy. Voice to skull technology. This is also in the foray of directed energy weapons. What is that? The ability to, let's just say, throw your voice into your head or my voice into my head or allowing algorithms that now they can blanket a whole geographically. area and they can make everybody change their thoughts.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I use the term intrusive thoughts. Back to that fork in the road analogy, if you find yourself where you have to make a decision about something next to you know, you catch yourself kind of having an argument in your head with your own voices. Well, the ability to add another one of your voices in there but have a control by somebody else's microphone, so to say, is a very powerful tool. And I think this is a weapon of war that we are seeing happen to everyone around us. The Department of Defense recently started initiating protocols for their employees, their agents to discuss Havana syndrome, Havana syndrome like symptoms.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And on that list is that their agents are hearing voices in their head. And this is what they're getting at. This is that technology that, you know, next thing you know you're trying to make its decision, but there's another Sean in your head that now is actually somebody else's. control and through the manipulation of that voice, they can now push you. Just like we have, you know, the cell phones are weaponized now, the social media platforms, and they can engage with an algorithm and they know that they can push you in a direction by repetitive information being displayed in front of you. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Okay. Wow. Yeah, we're going to be supposed to get spicy in here, guys. Holy shit, dude. All right. All right, listen. Listen, no, hold on. Who's going to go for this one?
Starting point is 00:28:58 No. Shut it. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Listen, guys. Holy shit, dude. Like, hmm,
Starting point is 00:29:08 let's just think about this for a second. He's talking about putting voices in your head. Now, by the way, this is an old, this is a, I guess is in a, a old age system or manipulation
Starting point is 00:29:22 or thought process or whatever you want to call it by portraying your thoughts on someone. So, take for example that you like a magician by the way Ashton I know you're a poker player
Starting point is 00:29:34 oh the truth has come out no I said I revealed this information keep going yeah I know you're a poker player but so say that and by the way sharing our poker players as well Dave are you do you play poker do you play poker
Starting point is 00:29:49 I've played poker but it's not my forte or whatever yeah okay so so you would not be able to portray throats thoughts in our head Yeah. But when you're sitting across the table in poker, right, there are, there are tell signs from other people. You know, you have a poker face or you don't. And also what you're trying to betray to the other person on the other side of the table. And I'm trying to explain that the best way I can based on what he's saying on a very minuscule scale of what he's saying. So when I'm sitting here and Ashton is sitting across the table, guys, if you see this table right here, right here. And Ashton is sitting. And Ashton is sitting across the table. Guys, if you see this table right here. And Ashton. Ashton sitting over there, Dave's sitting over there. Sherry sitting here.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And I'm trying to portray to him that I have the best hand in the table, on the table. I'm trying to whatever I can do. Will my thoughts do him? It doesn't matter. I'm trying to betray that to him. I want him to believe that I have the best hand at the table. And honestly, it's kind of weird because there are poker players that have this energy. Right? That when you get on a table with them, they feel like that they have to be the energy dominant alpha system at the table.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And they feel like they say, hey, I have the best hand. And I'm going to prove that to you. And is their energy. It is their aura. It is there everything. Now that is part of. That's the same way you can defend yourself from this thing, too. It is.
Starting point is 00:31:25 but he's literally talking about here is that they have a system. And he also references Havana syndrome to putting thoughts. Into your head. Literal thoughts. Right. Into your actual head. Well, and the way he explains it is like, you know, when you have these thoughts, like, should I do do A or do B?
Starting point is 00:31:48 And you're like fighting within your head and you got these thoughts going on. What should I do? And then you pick the thought. that's where they're getting intrusive. And when they play something over and over and over, for example, McDonald's, they have a commercial.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I think he talks about it, where they're actually getting you to want to go to McDonald's in your sleep. I've done that. It's the same thing. I woke up wanting McDonald's. That happened to me last week. Literally happened to me last week. I went and got chicken nuggets.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So it's great. Whoever wants to go. Okay, let me jump at. How possible. How possible? How possible? is this.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It's totally possible. But go. Let me do my spiel and I want you to share the thing that I've got on here because I think if we got UFO fans on here, you're going to want to see this in a second. But first I want to talk about the thing about poker too is you always have that person on the table who's like aggressively overconfident. And that's actually a bit of a tell of itself. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Usually people, the goal when you're playing, both you want to hide all your emotions. You want to have people I have no idea what you're thinking out there. One of the, for some reason I just thought of this, but like there was this big chess, fiasco and drama about a year or so ago where somebody supposedly had like some kind of vibrating butt plug that was like sending him signals that he was telling like what the other guy was like doing or whatever it was absolutely absurd but for some reason I'm thinking of that when you think of like sending messages to people or what have you related quantum entanglement but to be serious for a second one thing that I realized when I watched that Sean Ryan video that you just
Starting point is 00:33:22 posted is that there's a lot of people out there that even now have no idea what quantum entanglement even means, why it's relevant, why it's important. I think that when you look at what I just said there about the poll analogies, it's similar to what Eric Hecker just mentioned. This is why I'm really excited to talk to this guy. Now, this is slide nine that we're looking at right here. This is in UFOology, this was some big slide that I think Lou Al-Zondo and others have said we should be looking and paying attention to this slide. This comes from ATIP, which was Harry Reid before he passed away, rest in peace, helped to set up this group where they were within the organization, within the government, where they were looking into the UFO phenomenon. And this slide came
Starting point is 00:34:07 where it says, the science exists for an enemy of the United States to manipulate both the physical and cognitive environments in order to penetrate U.S. facilities, influence decision makers, and compromise national security. what does it say? Psychotronic weapons. Cognitive human interface. Penetration of solid surfaces. Damn.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Instantaneous sensor disassembly. Alteration and manipulation of biological organisms. This is all stuff we just mentioned. Anomalies in the space-time construct. Imagine gravity manipulation. Unique cognitive human interface experiences. And then it says what is the DOD advantages compared to other countries? The DOD has been.
Starting point is 00:34:51 involved in similar experiments in the past. They have relationships with the renowned subject matter experts. Keep in mind, not all the subject matter experts are American. They're pulling the scientists from all over the world. DoD controls several facilities where activities have been detected. And then what is it saying in this bottom part? What was considered phenomenon is now quantum physics. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Pretty incredible, right? This is so relevant. Listen, listen. Going back to that, though, you're talking about cognitive ability or manipulation. This is what the government has the ability to, right? You guys think about a magician, for example. They have the cognitive ability to pick the card that you're going to pick and know what it is.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's the same kind of concept. Let me add on to that real quick because I want to tell a quick story. So I have been, I was a professional poker player, I guess you could say, once upon a time. I used to live in Los Angeles. I used to go play at the commerce. I used to go to Las Vegas frequently in play. I've played in the World Series of Poker Main Event before. I've played against people at the largest tables that are out there.
Starting point is 00:35:59 The table they would call the million dollar table that's out there. And one experience I had really made me question this whole idea of, can we change the outcome of events? I was playing at one of these big tables. I had aces. And I slow played it a little bit pre-flop. I knew a guy was on tilt. And so I raised him.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And I knew he would react. And he went all in. and I instantly called him for, I think the total pot was like $10,000 or something like that. Wow. He had a pair of tens and I had aces. What happens? What was the cars on the board?
Starting point is 00:36:32 On the turn, he hits the 10. And I end up losing the pot, $10,000 pot. Guy hits his set of tens. I mean, if you guys know the odds on this, it was like a 5% chance that he's going to end up hitting that 10. There's only two tens in the whole deck. But it makes you wonder, because I looked at his face. And in his face, he wanted that 10 to come down.
Starting point is 00:36:51 so badly because we already had the card slipped over. You know, I had the aases slipped over. He knew he was like facing a one in 20 situation. And it does make you wonder. Exactly. It makes you wonder, what is the power of the human mind? You know, we have two hemispheres in our brain. We were just looking at scalar interferometry.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You know, can we manipulate our reality with the power of our thoughts? At the same point, at the same point, when you have those aces, what is your doubt process in your head? because when you see those aces, at least for me, you know, when we get on big money poker games, we get a big money poker games, you see those aces come out and you're like, oh yeah, I'm in. And then, but also at the same time,
Starting point is 00:37:34 you have this doubt process. But he could get this. It is too good to be true. But if you even in your thought process say he could get this, then it all goes back to the thought processes in the universe and how it works, you know. exactly what I wanted to bring up, especially, and I like Sherry's mindset on it, too, because it becomes kind of esoteric is like, does the fact that I have doubt then manipulate the outcome, or am I looking
Starting point is 00:37:58 into the future? And like, because the feeling that I had was dread, that somehow he was going to, he was going to catch what he needed to catch. That was the feeling that had. I wondered at that moment, and after the fact, did that, yeah, did I put it into the universe? So when I play poker ever since then, I've always thought, I always look at it from the positive angle, you're going to get what you need out there. Never put those negative thoughts out there. You may actually be manipulating your reality. And when we look at that slide that we just looked at, those are some pretty crazy concepts
Starting point is 00:38:29 that are out there. But if quantum mechanics is true and the delayed choice quantum eraser is true and the future is manipulating the present, then it opens the door to a lot of that stuff potentially being real. Dave, do you think that we have a system? to where you can put thoughts in someone else's mind. Do you think the government has a system like that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah, Annie Jacobson, who we were just talking about, Shells wrote a book about that going into remote viewing and the DIA, and they absolutely believe it. And to jump on the bandwagon here with what Sherry and Ashton have been saying about, you know, thought changing reality and whatnot, if you think about it, if you think about it from, a conspiracy mindset and take a step back. You see with this Eric, what he's putting out, these interviews he's going on, the
Starting point is 00:39:23 specific details he's given. Now you cross-reference that with the new Netflix hit TV show, Three Body Problem, which has been altered from the book that is out there that is talking about quantum entanglement. It's talking about advanced technology. It's talking about, you know, energy weapons that are advanced and from the future with a society spin on it that is a very, I think it's interesting they chose that book too and the way they've spun it. And I can see it as a promotion for control.
Starting point is 00:39:50 If thought didn't shape reality at some level, at an easily observable level, absolutely, because our thoughts, our beliefs shape our tenet, our philosophy of life, which then we used to shape the culture in which we live in the countries. And that's an important strategic thing to control. But if it operates on a level beyond that, on some level or frequency of reality that we don't yet publicly, understand, but they do, then it makes a lot more sense why projects like Operation Mockingbird and all these things that the intelligence communities to control Americans. Yes. Like, why are they so invested in controls?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Why are they so invested on smaller podcasts you see float around where you talk to people? You're like, I'm pretty sure that guy works for the government. You know what I mean? You're just like, what's going on? Why do they care? Because they have to try and shape it. They have to keep you focused on what they want to keep the ball moving. moving forward because they understand things maybe we don't yeah absolutely i agree with that um i
Starting point is 00:40:54 said that was it i was going to expose ashton so oh please do here we go what do we got no i'm kidding um i'm not going to expose you but i do got to ask your opinion on this because um and we're going to get into everyone's opinion and thought on this but so you have invested yourself a lot in ms 370 right and you have I've went from a normal life to a very public and exposed life to where you are exposed to ridicule. You were exposed to hellish comments and crazy ass people. I have seen them. We've seen them over seven years.
Starting point is 00:41:31 But you're also exposed to being a hero. Yeah. I mean, to somebody that's putting yourself out there. Absolutely. No one else would do that. Absolutely. You know?
Starting point is 00:41:39 100%. Yeah, 100%. But for people out there that know you. or have known kind of where you've been and so on and so forth. When we talk about UFOs, we talk about direct energy weapons, we talk about all this stuff. What is your thought when you go to bed and when you wake up? Like when you go to bed, what are you thinking about? Are you thinking that, you know, hey, this direct energy system or not direct energy
Starting point is 00:42:08 system, but direct energy weapon system or the semi-conductive scalar scale or, scalar energy systems, whatever it is that you talk about all the time, do you think that that is all the world is? Or do you think there is something bigger out there? Like, what is it that you think? Like, where do you hold your grounding level every morning you wake up? What is it that grounds you to earth? Especially considering that, yeah, you blew up very fast.
Starting point is 00:42:42 You talked about MH370. You are still talking about it. You are still devout in what you're saying. And there are a lot of people that say, Ashton, quit talking about it. You've got to quit talking about it. Well, there are many people that say that. But he has retired himself from that. Well, no, but Ash's retired himself.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Unless people, like, come to him and say, like, you got to explain this or this and this. But what do you ground yourself to? What do you think that when everything else has said, if you die in a car accident tomorrow, what happens? Yeah. Great question. And with respect to MH370, I still have some huge podcasts. A lot of people still want to talk to me about it.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And I think that the vetted podcast is going to be coming out soon. I'm going to be unredacted, which should be dropping this weekend as well. I think it's going to be incredible. Great, great podcast. Yeah, Clayton Morris is amazing. But to your question, I'm hanging out. Look at me right now. I'm hanging out with my favorite people.
Starting point is 00:43:36 We're talking about awesome ideas right now. I couldn't be happier in my life. I do not consider myself to be a hero in any sense. I haven't made any major sacrifices like Edward C. Lin, who I think is the guy that leaked MH370 videos. I absolutely believe those videos are real. And I think there's no way they can be fake, given the body of evidence around them and the fact that the science checks out. Generally, what I think is I want to let the world know this information. I kind of think of myself a little bit like Eric Hecker, but the way that I look at it as well, is how can I convince people without them thinking,
Starting point is 00:44:16 I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist or whatever you want to say because the way they hide this stuff is through disinformation and ridicule and vilification of the source in general. And this is where I think about that a lot. I spend most of my day wondering, how can I approve my message and my reach in order to wake more and more people up regarding what is possible out there? And that's what I love about what we've been doing here tonight, looking into the science, explaining the science to people, looking at how far back it goes. I truly believe that it's not even about trying to discover science that's unknown. It's actually more about looking back at history and looking through the historical record of the scientists and people that came before us that already figured it out and that they were vilified and figuring out how can I do it better than they did it to make sure that it gets out.
Starting point is 00:45:13 there. That's truly what I think about every day and every night. Yeah. And you're so right, because these guys that came out with this stuff in our history, for example, Richard Byrd, they put them in a, like, as, like, what is it called, a psychic ward or whatever? And he ultimately committed suicide. I don't even believe he committed suicide. And that's a scary part is that there's a lot of people out there. And you honestly, I think about Amy Eskridge a lot as well. Like I actually feel like, you know, in the Olympics when they pass the torch on to somebody else, I feel like Amy Asgridge passed the torch on to me in spirit and said, get anti-gravity out to the world. There's a lot of people out there that whether or not that they were silenced by the government, the psychological impact of knowing what's possible while the whole world is asleep is more than most people can comprehend. It is this idea that you know something and then the whole world just rejects it, even though it's true.
Starting point is 00:46:13 That is a huge psychological impact on people. Yeah, and this is what will drive. Exactly. This is what drives people to self-harm because they look at the world and they go, this world is a lie. And it goes back to the idea of disclosure in general and why they won't give it because imagine that on a large scale where people go, this whole world has been a lie. My whole life, I've been alive, 40, 50, 60 years or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And that now I'm just finding out that the media has been lying to me my whole life about where we could have been. and where we aren't right now. And I think we have to look back at that. And as much that it hurts me to say is that we have to forgive but not forget. Very similar to what I think people would say about COVID is that we are going to have to give amnesty to the criminals and the liars and the evil people that have been hiding this information because otherwise there's no chance it will ever come out because the people
Starting point is 00:47:04 that are hiding it do not ever want to face any consequences for the things that they've done and the information they've kept secret. and however they've rationalized it to themselves. And this is the darkest aspect of it. Yeah. And that's an interesting thought that you have about that, giving them amesty. Yeah, absolutely. Like why, though?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Hey, guys, I want to play a video for you guys real quick. This is a, the animals were remarkably aware of the impending earthquake in Taiwan. I want to show you guys a video of this real quick. And we're going to talk about this. because I have some thoughts on this and I want Ashton and Dave's thoughts on this as well This is interesting to me I have my thoughts on this
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm gonna share my thoughts but here you go here's the video I want you guys to notice something here Real quick so at the beginning of this right so you see this hold on This is calm Dammit if it'll stop I showed this video yesterday you see me showing this yesterday no i did oh that's crazy yeah we were we were talking about this yeah so this is calm right just watch the camera number one here we go watch the cat freaking out nothing now it starts
Starting point is 00:48:45 happening and then they're calm and then no then they're freaked out again but the interesting thing here is at the very beginning so it starts i to me um to me in that video there's something weird. We actually have three or four other videos to where there were other animals that reacted us. Now, we've seen this in other earthquakes, Turkey earthquake, I think Christchurch, earthquake. We had birds. We had other animals that were doing weird stuff. Like reacting right before the earthquake happened.
Starting point is 00:49:29 But we were like discussing cats last night. And you said they didn't have a sixth sense or something. Well, now, I mean, cats and dogs and all that stuff. I mean, cats are not necessarily as good at like an extra-dimensional sense or whatever you want to call it as dogs are. Dogs are very good at sensing upcoming storms. They're very good at sensing even cancer in their owners. I mean, we've seen that many times. But these cats, if you watch them, and there's actually an extended video of this, I mean, you watch them.
Starting point is 00:50:04 There's nothing going on at first. they start looking around, nothing's happening, no vibrations, no movement, and then they start moving around. What is that that they are sensing? Are they sensing vibrations? Are they frequencies or whatever? Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:50:20 Because the reality of a directed energy weapon to create an earthquake, you would have some type of radio frequency that is beaming down into the ground level. And by the way, usually when you look at earthquakes, for most people don't understand earthquakes, which I'm not a, I don't know what you call those people. I'm not one of those people. But when you sense earthquakes, they measure depth. And depth matters a lot. Where is the tectonic lines underground and how deep are they? Are they a mile down?
Starting point is 00:51:01 Are they 600 feet down? are they surface level? Are they, you know, whatever level they are, that all matters. Because the closer to the surface, a earthquake is, the more destructive the earthquake is on the surface, right? So if you have an earthquake that is 400 feet down for whatever reason, which typically don't happen, by the way, because tectonic lines and fault lines typically happen below a thousand feet and more, right?
Starting point is 00:51:32 So fault lines are pretty deep. Right. And so that tectonic movement underground is something that is very violent at the point of interaction. Mm-hmm. Although the further up in the surface you go up to surface level, it is less violent, right? So you can imagine that everything between, say, a thousand feet versus ground level is, there is some, I guess, shock vibration or shock penetration. What was it called?
Starting point is 00:52:08 Shit. I can't think of the name, but anyways. You have, yeah, but you have a cushion there, right? And so when you have something that is surface level earthquake, that is the most violent. It usually affects buildings a lot. I mean, you have a lot more damage in buildings. And so what we're seeing in this Taiwan earthquake is that a lot of, at the very least, aftershocks.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And we don't even 100% know that maybe the initial earthquake was surface level type earthquake. It was pretty shallow. And so when you think about this, when you think about even what Alana Freeland said, when you look at earthquakes like Turkey earthquake, I think Christ's Earthquake as well. New Zealand. There's a lot of low surface friction earthquakes, not necessarily on tectonic lines, but they are the actual shifting of the crust is a lot shallower than what you would experience in a typical earthquake.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Say you would see an actual fault line because the actual fault line, you know, way further down is going to be, I don't know, I don't know how many feet down. but what we see in Taiwan is a surface level earthquake, it seems like, and many of the aftershocks were also surface level. And I think that points towards the erected injury weapon. Yeah. And I think what you're getting to, too, it's like in California, the San Andreas fault. You know, this is a huge fault where we have many, many earthquakes that occur all the time. And it's because of the fault in the plates, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yeah, absolutely. And in Taiwan, you're saying it's more surface area. Well, yeah, a lot of the aftershocks are surface level. A lot of the actual earthquake seismotography was surface level. It was not that deep, even though it was a 7.4 magnitude earthquake. Typically, when you have a 7.4 magnitude earthquake here. Well, it is very big. It's very big.
Starting point is 00:54:12 But there were multiple aftershocks that were 6.0 and 5.0 and beyond. That's big, too, the aftershocks. So what we're saying here is that if it is, if it is earth-centric systems that are, it would be deeper. Yeah, it's a deeper earthquake system. And that's why you don't typically have huge earthquakes a lot. But you did have this in Taiwan. And then when you see the seismography of what actually happened in Taiwan, it's not very deep.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And that kind of points to some type of magnetic disruption into the surface level of. of the earth. What is your thoughts? It also points to this idea that there might be some faster than light, medium or wave that's potentially happening where the animals are somehow perceiving that before the shockwave even hits. And especially the shockwave is moving at a very high rate of speed. I looked at that video last night.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I thought that was wild. When you see that cat like flip around and fall off the like, I don't know, whatever that is shelf that's going on. next to the window. I thought, whoa, that's weird. But there has been a lot of kind of comments about how cats have this extrasensory perception that people don't have or animals do. And I think this ties into what Dave was saying, what you guys were talking about earlier about the eclipse. I don't think that the world's going to end during the eclipse, but if you imagine that we've got this magnetosphere around us and that the moon is much larger
Starting point is 00:55:45 than any other moon relative to the size of our planet than anything else in the solar system, unusually large and that it can impact the tides in a significant way. You can imagine this idea that it blocking the sun and those cosmic rays that are coming at us absolutely could perceive something happening there. And there's been stories that the roosters start to maybe like make noise and birds stop singing when these types of effects happen. And it does make you wonder whether or not animals have some sort of extra sensory perception, some electromat. magnetic perception that we don't really understand that allows them to know that this danger is about to happen before things even begin to shake.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I absolutely think that that's certainly a possibility and should be an area of study. And maybe that's what CERN and these other NASA shooting rockets up or whoever's looking to the science of these eclipses, maybe that's what they're looking into? What do you think, Dave? And by the way, Dave, I want you to answer this question. Do you see this on the screen, Mr. X? haven't heard of a tsunami hit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Do you maybe wonder why tsunamis are not happening with such a large earthquake? I think. See, I actually have been through a seven plus earthquake before. Wow. And 89 in San Francisco. Well, what did you experience? Like, what did it feel like? I was in a field here in soccer practice and everybody fell to the ground.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Everything. It moved the house we lived in like two and a half inches to the left of the foundation. Wow. Just picked it up and moved it. that was just everywhere and everyone was like oh my god this is whoa so you're on a soccer field
Starting point is 00:57:25 and you basically were knocked down yeah yeah it started moving and we're like oh I'm just a dumb kid and we all went down yeah people haven't experienced an earthquake because I lived in Los Angeles so I only experienced one where I like
Starting point is 00:57:39 really felt it but it feels like you lose your balance it feels like you lose your whole sense of balance that's what it feels like when you're there touching the ground and it's actually going off. And you're like, wait, what my perception is all kind of messed up.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And then he goes, oh, this is an earthquake. It's pretty bizarre. It's like if you've ever been through one of the carnival fun houses and they have the floors that move, like the board on a chain, that's what it is. Only you don't know you're on a board with the chain, you know. Yeah. So yeah. It was.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Dave, do you feel like, do you feel like that the fact that we have not actually seen a tsunami with a 7.4 earthquake that damage that many buildings? is that a sign more towards direct energy weapons or that's maybe I think I think it is and I think that actually it leads more credence for a lot of reasons that it was probably US directed for for a host of reasons because if we're going to do it we're going to make sure we're not going to have any collateral to us right yeah we have shipping lanes out there we have bases out in the ocean of different atolls we're not going to deal with that problem absolutely so let's keep it and clean yeah Ashton, how untraceable, by the way, direct energy weapons.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Let's talk about MH3 70 for a second, but how untraceable? We got to think about this. China has a system. And I want to make sure I make very clear what China's system is. But China's system is a radar system that they claim to be a radar system, although it's a China giant ionosphere zapping radar. Yeah, and they're claiming it to be a... In Antarctica. Yeah, they're claiming it to be a defense system
Starting point is 00:59:20 Manich... Sorry, Manic curating as a science. And so they say the South China Morning Post recently revealed plans for a new China radar facility on the island of Hanawan. China's southernmost point described as high-powered, incoherent,
Starting point is 00:59:37 scatter radar. The installation will bounce radio waves off the Earth's high-altitude layer of charged gas called the ionosphere. Although the project is in step with the country's other mega science projects, like planning the world's most powerful particle accelerator, building the largest single-ditch radio telescope or ration other nations to nuclear fusion, experts think that a new facility is more interested in military matters than discovering the secrets of Earth's upper atmosphere. So what this article is saying in popular mechanics is the possible military benefits of an ionosphere radar isn't lost on other countries, especially the U.S. The Navy and DARPA ran a similar facility, which is called the High Frequency Active Aurora Research Program, also in its harp. In Alaska, before it was passed to the University of Alaska in 2014.
Starting point is 01:00:37 God, I got to ask you guys a question after this. Don't let me forget. Yeah, although it was sold as project focused on studying the Honosphere, these 40 acres of radar antennas, sorry, radars antennas figured predominantly in conspiracy theories involving government sanctioned weather control, human-made earthquake, and tsunamis, or just general mental disruption throughout a region. So we know that China has this system.
Starting point is 01:01:07 they have a system to manipulate. Even earthquakes. This is popular mechanics. This is a love child of media. Popular mechanics is a love child of media. They are not right. They are not left. But popular mechanics is saying this.
Starting point is 01:01:27 They're literally saying that the U.S. government is saying that China has the capability of creating earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, whatever. They have the capability that. which means we have the capability of that. Well, China actually founded Antarctica before we did, so they have capabilities. They are telling you. And also Nazi Germany. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:50 They're a huge player. And you don't ever hear about them anymore. What the hell is going on in Antarctica and what the hell is going on with this research facilities? How dangerous is it? I mean, really, how dangerous is these programs that China has that you, United States has that we're talking about Eric Decker that is in Antarctica. He is whistleblowing on these things.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And we're talking about it. But how many people actually even know who the hell he is? No one. No one besides who is listening to us right now. Who knows who he is? Yeah. So, and here's the thing, too, about it is that remember when I went on some of the, I think we had like five podcasts, but MH370?
Starting point is 01:02:32 I thought if I was able to figure this out, China and Russia would have figured it out. And I think this is the same exact scalar technology that we see potentially in a more advanced form where it doesn't require a large antenna dish to pull off with these orbs, though the same technology we would see in Antarctica that Eric Hecker is talking about. Now, I think that China has figured it out at this point. And I think that Russia has figured it out. So when we talk about this stuff, anytime I hear the word radar now, I'm just hearing weapon. Because what I found out from watching Thomas Bearden is that radar can be used as a weapon.
Starting point is 01:03:06 You can create phase conjugation and create a scalar potential. And now you can produce energy potential at a distance. To me, that's just a weapon. Now, just to be coy for a second, what I would say is we don't even need the psychotronic or psychotropic mental disruption techniques. We already have a better one. It's called TikTok. It's called social media.
Starting point is 01:03:26 We can manipulate people's minds with social media. We can convince them to believe whatever we want. The letter to Ashton Forbes once had a path. password to unlock. And it wasn't like a big, you know, rabbit hole way to jump down. They told us what the password was. And when we unlocked it, you know what we found? A bunch of government documents about psychological manipulation using memes and that how
Starting point is 01:03:51 powerful memes can be to break down brainwashing, but also to convince people of information. And I looked at that and went, wow, that's accurate. Like, that's memes are a great way to break down the brainwashing that people have. I haven't convinced people of ideas that would otherwise be ridiculed. And then going back to China, this is what I would say to people out there, especially the skeptics, is that this technology, and I say this a lot, is a discovery. This is not an invention. The difference being that you can suppress an invention forever.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You can take out the person who would have figured it out now the invention's gone. For discoveries like discovering that we can make fire, it's just a matter of time. It's always going to be figured out. It's an underlying condition of the universe itself that people are always going to figure out it's just a matter of time. Cold fusion is one of those. We look at the sun and we see it every single day that fusion is out there. The thunderstorm generator, in my opinion, make a bold prediction here, will be proven to be true. It will be proven to be able to create cold fusion on small scales.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And if we can do that, then we can create the power of a sun and the palm of our hand. and I think that the world will be opened up to technology that right now we think is impossible. But going back to that three body problem, which by the way, the producer of that Netflix movie, like poison somebody and he's going to prison, he's like a billionaire. Pretty damn weird. That's scary. The three body problem, the best thing I liked about, and this isn't necessarily a spoiler, is that think of technology where we're at right now over here.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Okay, this is this is 2024. We figure out unification of the forces, teleportation at a rudimentary level, things that seem like magic to us. And that's like right here. So that's, let's say, a hundred years more advanced than we are. What does this look like way over here? A thousand years more advanced than we are. This is what I want people to get through their minds is that we are cavemen.
Starting point is 01:05:52 We are bugs at this point right now. We feel like we're super advanced because we're talking on a live stream to almost a thousand viewers right now, using computers that are separated by hundreds of miles, but we can push this much, much further. That's what I want people to be thinking about every single day is what does the future look like, not just tomorrow, but a hundred years from now. And the best part about it is we don't have to wait 100 years. If we can figure those discoveries out right now, then we can advance ourselves
Starting point is 01:06:23 a thousand years in a day or in a week or however you want to think about it. No, I agree, Ashton, 100%. And listen, I mean, we are in a battle. we are in a war for information. Yeah, information war for sure. And listen, I mean, to Ashton's point and to a lot of what he says, you know, there are soldiers that are out there to battle the consensus, the truth. We see it. And it's the same people like us.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Unfortunately, the narrative, the government, the agenda, the directive, is against us. They are against the truth. regardless of whatever anyone wants to say, they are, the system is against us. They are against us exposing what is actually going on. And we are at a detriment every single day. Every single day I wake up. And I wake up and I say, when are we going to get screwed? When are we going to get banned?
Starting point is 01:07:22 When are we going to get silenced? That is my biggest worry of my entire thing in my entire life because we've worked on our podcast for seven years. we have built this this community. It is my biggest worry over anything else. And Sherry will tell you stress, like the stress I have with creating episodes and just looking at numbers and looking at this. I'm not looking at numbers because I want to know like, oh, what are we getting on ad views? What are we getting on this?
Starting point is 01:07:51 I am looking at numbers because I am so scared. You're worried about it being banned. I am paranoid of seeing some crazy drop. That's why we're not even trying. to do YouTube right now. Yeah, to where a system comes in. Yeah. But to where a system comes in place to where they say they are no longer our algorithm.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And that is the world we live in. Dave, let me ask you, what is your thoughts in general on, we talked about, obviously, Antarctica tonight, but we've gone everywhere. We went everywhere. But let me ask you. What is your just thoughts on life? What is your thoughts on what we're actually experiencing today? I mean, listen to everything.
Starting point is 01:08:43 I have some specific questions I wanted to ask Dave. When I was watching these videos, I was thinking about him because I was thinking about this. I know Dave is in, and I'm going to go back to the hollow earth for a minute, but I know Dave is kind of into that. And as I was watching, I got into this biblical thing where it was basically, if you believe in hollow earth, you have to believe in a flat earth, the dome earth or whatever. Or the firmament. Can you have both? Can you have a hollow earth that is not a flat earth? Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:09:16 In your opinion, could it be like Swiss cheese or a honeycomb type earth inside? Not just a dense earth, but, you know, you know, you think about all the caverns. that go in and out. People, you know, they go in and out of them and you can walk miles in these caverns and caves or whatever. Could it be that or do you have to have both? I need some wine for this. No, this is really important.
Starting point is 01:09:42 For some wine. Can you have both or do you have to have to have both or can it be one or the other? I think it's a matter. Because that was what I was thinking about you was when I was like thinking about that. I think it's a matter of perspective. Have you ever seen the AI generated biblically accurate picture of what is described to be angelic beings from like the book of Ezekiel? No. I would share it if I had it pulled up, but I don't have it pulled up.
Starting point is 01:10:10 It's definitely worth looking at. It's unbelievable. What it to me looks like something from higher dimensions that are compressed into a lower dimension, right? Yeah. So for us, two dimension flat is, well, we're. we perceive on paper, right? Or the video we're watching now, right? There's no depth to it. Right. If you're a seventh or eighth or not, whatever, you're a higher being from some other frequency
Starting point is 01:10:36 that we don't understand. Looking at us, our universe probably appears pretty flat or that there's something underneath it or that we are covered by a dome. You know, it could be as simple as different realities or phases or anything below it would be that. So when you see, whenever I read like biblical descriptions of what's going on and that it was spoken to them from something on high, right? How could something from outside of my reality explain to me how it sees me? When when I see it, I have to look away so I don't go mad. You see what I'm saying? When the angels or beings would appear that, you know, people would immediately grovel and they'd say don't fear, right?
Starting point is 01:11:21 Just relax for a second. Because what are you witnessing? You're witnessing something your mind. cannot handle it cannot perceive we can't think outside of x number of dimensions and you're having a creature that is phased into our reality that's trying to communicate the simplest of ideas but is it because we is that because our is that because our humanity that says but is that because we say that if you experience those things you're crazy oh i'm definitely crazy I'm in a conspiracy, but I don't deny that.
Starting point is 01:11:56 That's my wife. Maybe you're the first one to tell you. Maybe you're actually awake. Maybe you're actually awake, though. You know what it is? I'm open to it, man. You're asking questions earlier, like, what are we doing or what's going on? For me, when it comes to this type of thing, I try and stay as open to everything because
Starting point is 01:12:13 I don't know anything. The moment, you know, claims of that certainty come up, I'm always cautious. because some of these things are out there. Like we go back and forth about, you know, are these ultra-dimensional, are these crafts? Is it our technology? Is it, yeah, it could be all of those things. All the above, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Yeah, it could be creatures from a different reality that is totally fascinated that we have a sense of humor because they don't understand it. So what they did is they built a moon and put it over this so they can watch. And they're like, they won't figure out that it's not supposed to be there for. A few millennia, right? We'll deal with that then. Maybe they're trying to save us from ourselves. You know, that's a nice thought.
Starting point is 01:12:59 You know, maybe they feed on the negative emotion. That's why there's always war. Maybe they like blood ritual sacrifices. That's why we're always at war. Maybe that was the deal made back in the days. America will prosper, but we always have to be at war. We have to keep it going. And as long as it's not our citizens, we're okay with it.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Yeah, and we're at war all over the world. We have been. Constantly. By the way, Dave, Dave says something when we first came on this. He said, of all nights, we're doing an episode on Antarctica. Like, the world is going to hell. As of tonight. As of tonight.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Like, we got Ukraine probably joining NATO. What else is happening? What do you say, Dave? Oh, there's missiles going towards Israel from Iran. Oh, yeah, because Israel just went towards Iran, too. Damn it. You know what? I'm surprised is there hasn't been a
Starting point is 01:13:52 bombing on the red heifers because that would be the thing. Okay. Can you talk to us about that real quick? Red heifers, yeah. Because I hear about that all the time and I think about you and I know it has to do with religion. Ash is like, holy shit, where are we?
Starting point is 01:14:05 Go over this. Here we go to Ashon. Yeah. Tell us about the red her head. Let's do it. Let's do it. We're just gaining listeners from some. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:15 The red heifers are very into the Jewish side of things, right? The Hebrews, they're very into it. To build the third, I'm going to break it down as quickly as I can and as easily. They want to rebuild the third temple, right? They have to sacrifice a perfect red heifer. And they got to do it April 22nd coming up on one of their holidays.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And that's what matters. And they found it. Allegedly they found it. They've got the rabbis that have signed off on it, that this thing is spotly. If they thought they've had it in the past and then a blemish will come up or a patch of hair will change. They need a perfect red heifer. And when they sacrifice it to appease God, they can then rebuild the third temple, which I don't know how they're going to do that because they're going to have to bulldoze the dome of the rock.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And I think the Muslims are going to have a problem with that. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're not going to be okay with it. But do you think that's why they're in war right now is to build this third temple? Oh, no, no. I think the hate that's going on over there is a hate that I as a Western or will be the first one to say that I don't understand. I can't from my geopolitical and socio-economic position as woke as that just sounded. I'm going to vomit later, I swear. I cannot comprehend. I've known IDF dudes and I've known some devout Muslims and the hate that they have for each other is something. something I cannot understand. Yeah, because the IDF is like we're going to demolish them until they're gone. It's pure. It is pure.
Starting point is 01:15:56 The feeling over there is it's something as Westerners we don't get. And as far as me and my own political belief is like, that's their problem. It's not my problem. I shouldn't be involved in it. You got the Ukraine Russia thing with food and then Crimea and the things that have been going on and then wanting to take it to the river. That is a very much long-coming Russia problem. But wait a minute, but when you come to the Bible,
Starting point is 01:16:23 this is what the Bible predicted. Okay, didn't it? Listen, I'm going to put these people in a spot for a second. We got a lot of, we got a lot of watchers right now. Oh, my God. You say that one more time on the spot. Who's in a wrong? Israel or Palestine?
Starting point is 01:16:41 Yes. Good answer. Listen, by the way, by the way, we, our podcast, investigators podcast on Spotify, Sherry is, she comes from a Jewish family. We had a, what you're asking me about the red heifer? Well, no, we're, no, we're about to. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:17:04 No, I'm not saying it was a religious Jewish person. I just came from a Jewish household. She's not real Jewish. She is a little. Well, I mean, well, that's not real. Yeah, no, I. But the reality is she actually comes from a Jewish family and Yon Kippur and all that stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:23 She actually comes from a Jewish family, which is sad. Yeah. But anyways. It's not sad. So we did the podcast when Hamas came into Israel and they killed a shit of 12 or 1300 people. 2023. But what is Israel doing now, bro? Like, are they-
Starting point is 01:17:40 Is this genocide? Yeah. Are they just killing this shit? of everyone and how is this how is this okay ashton we're going to go with you first but cancel you first let me get canceled right now but is a bible telling us this is what's supposed to happen ashton let's cancel you first go i've joined a few spaces that we're talking about this recently and i've always avoided it because it is such a controversial topic it is so and i have I went to Jewish preschool.
Starting point is 01:18:12 My parents wanted me. I'm Roman Catholic, a baptized, but I went to a Jewish preschool. I went to high school in Singapore where the Israeli students that were at my school were some of my best friends. Wow. They couldn't put their country of origin in the yearbook because there were death squads in Malaysia that is predominantly Muslim that would potentially kill them. And some of my best friends in college were Jewish as well. and here's my true opinion is that I think it's impossible for them
Starting point is 01:18:44 to pull their biases out of the situation from talking to them in general I love those guys, some of them and girls, they're friends that, and I've dated Jewish girls as well. So great people, absolutely. But when you look at a situation, they were given this land mass as well
Starting point is 01:19:07 that was everybody's holy, ground and it creates this very controversial situation. I think that Israel has much more power than the nations that are around them and that we support them and give them that power. And that's what's led to what I would probably call essentially a genocide where it's a state sanctioned genocide. For me, I've always been against all wars that are out there. And I don't think there's an easy answer because do we take the land away from Israel and
Starting point is 01:19:35 give it back to the Palestinians that we originally took it from? you know, where, where do you, about the way? Yeah, where do you draw the line in this front? Yeah, right. And both sides claim to have, you know, a logical argument for why and justified argument for why they should control the land.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So I don't think there will ever be an easy answer in a lifetime. And the problem now is that it's gone on for 70 years or longer, where what do you do now? It's been three generations and this has been going on. So the people that have lived there now in the Israeli side, have lived their whole entire lives as well. You know, we put ourselves into an impossible situation. What we should learn is to never do something like this ever.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Yeah. But why would they even start this war where they're raping women and putting babies in ovens? Why would they even do that? Like, what is the purpose of that? Yeah. And at the end of the day, this is about land. You know, it's about controlling land. And the issue there is you've got people of one religious sect on one side of the border.
Starting point is 01:20:36 and you've got people on the other second. And in the middle, you've got them interacting with one another. And I think that it's not a matter of the whole country is evil, but individuals can do evil things, especially when they're granted power. And it was really interesting to me when October 7th happened. It was not just the Hamas warriors or the military. It was civilization.
Starting point is 01:21:03 There were civilized men coming in doing the same. thing and following these guys to do it and doing like awful things to Israelis that did nothing to them. But listen, here's here's my point here, right? I get that point. And I know we're getting off topic. We are 100%. But I get the fact that they have retaliated and gone beyond.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I know. I get that. Yeah, absolutely. Israel has went beyond. And the reality of this situation is that politics make you want to believe that the narrative or agenda is better or greater than whatever the consequences of war. And what does that mean? That means that the money that is being driven into the war machine, which is the military
Starting point is 01:21:52 industrial complex, is more important than the babies and the kids and the innocent people in Palestine, which is, by the way, which is innocent. They are innocent because they are they are they are grown up. They are indoctrinated into a system to hate Jews. And I think that's what the Jews are worried about. And that's why they feel like, in my opinion, they need to kill all of them. Yes. But Jews are also indoctrinated into hate and Palestinians.
Starting point is 01:22:22 And so we have this divide. And so then you have the West, the United States, which is that, hey, we got to just defend. We got to defend Israel. Right. Yeah. And now we're getting to a point where, you know, how could this, how could this be, how could this be different? But listen, here. This is a point of genocide and war.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Yeah. Here's the reality. Guys, we're talking about Antarctica. We're talking about direct energy weapons. If you think about Maui, you think about wildfires in Texas or Canada, whether or not they are actual direct energy weapons. Do you guys really think that the government gives a shit about us? like really i mean do you think they actually care if every single one of us like if if all of us right now on this podcast drop dead right now do you really think that the government gives us shit
Starting point is 01:23:14 whether we got blown up by an iranian airstrike on this podcast do you think they care just tell me if you think they care you know violence begins more violence right there's no winners in war i think i love the fallout quote war war never changes and it's always people dying for no reason. People ask me, too, if we have these super weapons, why don't we just stop the war? The people in charge are not the good guys. And the point of war is not for us to deploy our super secret weapons. The point of war is for money and for poor people to die, the people on the front ranks in general. There's actually been videos, and this will go back to Antarctica, though, of the Israelis using their Iron Dome weapon to shoot down missiles on the sky.
Starting point is 01:23:58 You know what it looks like? It looks like lasers shooting into the sky. In fact, that's very similar because these green lasers have been making the rounds. Yes. Pull up the image that I just shared. Yeah, they do. Pull the image real quick that I just shared on the bottom there. And you will see this is from Antarctica. This is from their live stream.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Yes. Eric Hecker mentioned seeing this firsthand. Look at what we're looking here. Do you guys remember the last few weeks where we saw those green lasers coming out of the sky? Yes. What are we actually looking at here, right? This is the type of technology where people probably need to talk about this.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I mean, look at this. beam shooting up from this this platform here that we've got going on um you know what is that doing is that doing is a faster like communication i mean it potentially has multiple purposes like what eric hecker said so unfortunately for me i think that we've got to end all war that's out there the war should be between the the the little people like us that are out there and i think all of us will qualify and the elites the covert administrative elite as they would want to call them who are the ones that are pulling the strings behind the scenes where all the rest of this is just a big game you know that's what politics is 100% Ashton what do you think Dave
Starting point is 01:25:07 uh time to get canceled Dave let's do it there's other things to worry about them being canceled Dave is Israel evil where I'm rumble so I've had some unique paths in my life that I don't want to talk about on here but I've met some IDF dudes who have marked more people than I've met. And they're cool with it. And the way I look at it, as I get where Ashton goes to the land thing,
Starting point is 01:25:41 and I get that it's very, like, that's what we're talking about. Really we're talking about like this ideology, this theology, this basic between these two. And again, I come to the thing like, I've read the book, right? I went with the rule change. When the guy showed up with the rule change,
Starting point is 01:26:00 I signed on for that because I was a Gentile and I'm cool with that. Those who are holding on to those Old Testament aspects and they're still having the same battle in the same place they've been doing for thousands of years. That is that is their thing. It's not my thing. I'm not weighing. I have nothing to weigh in, add to or judge like it's, you know, neither party cares about me or my family at the end of the day. And I only care about people who care about me and my family. So that's so I don't care too much for government.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I don't care too much for quote unquote leaders because at the end of the day they don't care. I think the advancements in technology that they have and this breakaway civilization, which I believe is definitely solidifying. They would very be happy to see 70 plus percent of us gone because we just consume their beautiful spaces and they don't need us. Yeah. And by the way, guys. And that goes back to COVID and event 201 and, you know, all that. Yeah. You know, depopulating the whole earth, really.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Listen, we have a, we have some listeners here. The New World Order and the World Economic Forum is very real. And what we are seeing today is a system to enslave us. And when we talk about, I guess Antarctica in general, direct energy weapons and all this stuff, what Ashton is talking about with M.Street 70 and even Dave and what we're talking about now, it is a very
Starting point is 01:27:35 scary time we are living in. And we do our podcast based on you guys are human beings. We are people. We want freedom. We think that if you live in the United States
Starting point is 01:27:51 that we are free, but we are not. We are not free. We do not understand what freedom even is. Jesse Lee Peterson. I had to bring him up. I love that guy. Jesse Lee Peterson.
Starting point is 01:28:08 He's a black guy, but he is a black guy that is hilarious. But, you know, you ask him about the civil rights movements. And he said that it was the worst thing to ever happen to the black community. Why do you say that? why would he say that the civil rights movement was the best or sorry the worst thing that ever happened in the black community was because the government was able to then control the black community yeah yeah they they enabled uh government benefits which in turn enabled government control indoctrating people to the system absolutely yep and if you have to defend
Starting point is 01:28:55 or sorry, depend on the government, then you are then controlled. You are still a slave. And so whereas- Well, am I a slave when I'm still paying the government? I just want to know. We are absolutely. Because I'm paying them all the time. No, listen, there are over 1,800 millionaires right now that are, that do not file taxes.
Starting point is 01:29:20 They have not filed taxes for, I think, seven years. And so what they have done by. the way, guys, is that they are millionaires. They have refused to fall taxes, I think over the past seven years, and they have got attorneys. And so when the government comes after them, they pay their attorneys, and then they present what they pay their attorneys versus what they would have to pay in taxes. They pay their attorneys far less than what they pay the government or would pay the government taxes. And so, but they're fighting the good battle. which is we're not paying you to send money to everyone and anyone that you want to send it to.
Starting point is 01:30:01 And we're refusing to file for taxes. And so they are fighting these battles constitutionally in courts. They are paying money to their attorneys and they're winning. They're winning based on constitutionality of the actual doctrine of taxes. And I encourage everyone to check that out. Ashton, let me ask you the last thing. What do you think is the general consensus of M.S. 370? Ooh, spicy.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Well, but listen, advanced technology, Antarctica. And look, do you believe there are direct energy weapons in Antarctica? I can't answer that for, Ashton. I know, I know. She probably got. But do you believe that has anything to do with MH370? Yeah, I think there actually is a connection here between all these concepts. I think that they're all related to scalar physics.
Starting point is 01:31:03 I think that it goes back to the idea of a Pandora's box where why can we not tell the truth about fashion like communication or directed energy weapons or teleportation capability because it's all the same underlying science. And that underlying science would upheave all of the academic community that we know. know it. I was just now reading a comment that I posted on one of these science debunkers YouTube videos. And I'm just going to be honest with you guys because it's late and I've had a little drinks. But this lady, Sabrina, whatever her name is, is an idiot. And a lot of these academics are morons that are out there. They pretend like they know everything because they read scientific
Starting point is 01:31:43 papers that confirm their confirmation bias while they ignore all the scientific papers and pads that don't. Things like the delayed choice quantum erase are absolutely. proves that the future impacts the current or the past however you want to think of it. And it's sad. You have people with a million followers on Twitter and a million subscribers on YouTube who do not understand stuff like quantum mechanics. And they go and make debunk videos out there thinking that they do when they don't even understand it.
Starting point is 01:32:14 There is. There's, doesn't matter what your pedigree is. Your pedigree doesn't matter. Your PhDs don't matter. The number of followers and subscribers. subscribers you have do not matter at all. What matters if you can use basic logic and reasoning. Anybody out there, anyone, this is a challenge. I don't care what your background is, how many followers you have. If you think you can debunk the MH370 videos, if you think you can debunk the
Starting point is 01:32:41 evidence, if you think you are a scientist that think we have been spewing conspiracy theories or what have you and you want to make us look them, challenge accepted. Go ahead and I will challenge you. I will debate you live on stream. We will go over the science and you better be prepared to not just say, oh, well, CNN told me this. And mainstream academia says that this is, doesn't really check out. You better come with actual logic and facts that we can debate conceptual ideas that we can debate. I have people in my replies who say, well, this isn't, this isn't accepted from the mainstream. That's not an argument. Tell me conceptually why it doesn't work. Tell me conceptually why there can't be a fifth dimension that we don't perceive out there or why over unity is not possible when we're
Starting point is 01:33:26 literally staring at a sun that's producing it all the time so that's my challenge out there i think that mh370 videos are 100% real supported by the science and i think everything we've been talking about here as well as real yeah i think it's possible that the earthquake that we're looking at here could be induced by a weapon i'm not saying this in exactly is necessarily i just think that it's It's possible. It is possible for sure. And I think you're right. And I think all the research that you and your team have put in, you can't just come out
Starting point is 01:33:58 here and say, oh, well, CNN told me that. You got to have, like, research and back that stuff up if you want to debate. Ashton. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. I mean, I think that everyone just, I mean, when you talk to my mom or Sherry's mom, they believe everything nightly news tells them. I mean, everything. And how do you get past that?
Starting point is 01:34:23 Like, how do you get past the narrative of the generation of people that believe still in the mainstream media? Like, what we're talking about tonight, we're talking about, we're trying to dive deep into theories and thoughts and all this stuff. We're diving in deep to what most people don't even, like, have a clue about. Yeah, I mean, and even a lot of what I'm, even. I mean, a lot of what Ashton says, it is over a lot of people's heads. Because Ashton dives deep in a lot of this stuff. And then he only knows how to betray that in a in-depth perspective. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:03 And so sometimes, like when Ashton says things, I say, well, how do we portray this to people that don't understand the concept of what you're trying to say? You get people like me on the podcast to portray that. But that's what I do though, right? Is that I come out there and my whole goal is to try to just explain it conceptually for people. I think that's a big aspect is how I wanted people to wrap their minds around this idea of a fifth dimension that's out there. And what that means of why we can't perceive it and what the impact on our reality is out there. And for the people that would want to debate, if there is any scientists out there thinking, I can debunk this guy. I'm going to tell you what the first question I'm going to ask you is, is what does science mean?
Starting point is 01:35:46 Because what science means is the scientific method. That's the method that I've used. It's not a matter of me coming up with beliefs. It's what the evidence shows is out there. And then my second question is, what does science actually imply? Or what does science do? Science is the study of observable reality. It doesn't matter what you've been told or what you've read.
Starting point is 01:36:06 What matters is what happens when we actually look at our reality and we test it. The reason why I know the MH370 videos are real is because I've got real engineers and scientists who've seen that in the labs experimentally, just like Thomas Bearden said, in private laboratories, he's seen this science proven experimentally. That's the evidence that I'm using. And yes, it might be secondhand. But the people that I've talked to, I know for a fact that they're working in those labs.
Starting point is 01:36:35 And I trust them implicitly. So that's what I'm working with. And that's why I'm so confident this all checks out. If this stuff wasn't real, there wouldn't be a Thomas Bearden from 1985, 30. years ago telling us about how the science work. There wouldn't be an Edward C. Lin who went to prison for six years on a nine-year sentence for information that's available on the internet that nobody can point to that has penal codes that's consistent with videos.
Starting point is 01:36:59 You know, the evidence is overwhelming. And what happens to the debunkers is it breaks their minds and they reject reality because they can't address the evidence. And that's what I think a lot of people that might watch this podcast or listen to it later on are probably going to have going into their minds. And what I would say is this is the difference between somebody who's closed-minded and somebody who's open-minded. Be an open-minded, free thinker.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Dave, Dave, are you open-minded or close-minded? And what would you tell the people right now? Like, if you wake up every day and you think that everything fills off, how do you deal with that? I have faith. That's a great. But faith in what? Faith in God.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Faith is enough. I mean, faith in general, like Hebrews 111, faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. That's the basis of all conspiracy. I have faith that the sun's going to rise tomorrow. It's a new day. I have my wife. I have my kids.
Starting point is 01:38:01 I have my friends. So everything's okay. It's not. It's like everything they want you to believe. They want you afraid. They want you hiding. They want all of those things. They want you terrified in your.
Starting point is 01:38:12 little bubble hugging to your screen to get informed, man, give her all that. Live your life. Except for us. Go out with your kids. You know, like for me, it's what do. How do I do it? When my kids ask me to do one X, I have five kids. So when they're like, hey, dad, will you do this thing for me?
Starting point is 01:38:31 And I'm like, I really want to say no. I really want to lay down. I don't know how you do that with five kids. So. Oh, wow. But so, so what do I do? I say, as you bet, buddy, you bet, let's do that.
Starting point is 01:38:46 You got to do it. Yeah, because that's life matters, right? Yeah. The whole, this whole reality is a lie. They want you to believe all the things that don't matter, matter, and what matters doesn't. But what if, but what if what if what you think doesn't matter, what they want you to believe that that matters that you think that doesn't matter actually does matter. Wait, you mean, like what thong Mariah Carey's wearing? or break down or Joe Biden taking long showers with his daughter.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I don't care. I don't care. I get it. And I get what day saying. You know, you know what reality is and you can be awake or you can be woke. You know, I hope you're awake.
Starting point is 01:39:28 But if you're awake, you still have to live your life. And you have to be the person, you know, God chose you to be and be with your family and be happy. And not like dwell. on this stuff and make you so depressed that you can even talk about or think about it. You've got to enjoy life at the same time.
Starting point is 01:39:48 And I think that's Day's point. He has five kids and he's trying to reason how can I deal with this kid and this kid and this kid. I got to give them fair amount of time. And I just got to embrace life with these kids. Exactly. Well, just life in general. Like every day, like where I sit from my front porch and I can look at the mountains in front of me. behind me. And I just think, man, like my best friends live next door and across the street.
Starting point is 01:40:15 We all move into the same neighborhood. Like we hang out every Friday night. How fun. It's a blessing. And we live that life. Do we talk about politics and how furious we are? Absolutely. We've been to each other. Do I, am I fully aware that my government in all respects probably hates me and my family and everything that we stand for? Yeah. Do I care? No. No. Because I live in an area that none of those things matter, right? Like my reality is what I make it. I don't let others define my reality for me.
Starting point is 01:40:48 And I love that. Absolutely. I love that. I mean, listen. I love that, Dave. I am so glad that we had this. I mean, and our numbers have grown the entire episode. And we're so grateful for all of you to come. Ashton, I want you to give me your last thoughts on Antarctica because
Starting point is 01:41:08 this is what this episode is about um how how important do you feel like an arctic is to the the conversation of even area 51 i mean you got to think about you know the significance of area 51 is is antarctica area 51 is it the new area 51 uh to me Diego rcilla is a new area 51 but we've got a lot of advanced bases including Diego Garcia Pine Gap. I think that the South Pole's listening station or whatever you want to call it in Antarctica is absolutely one. We probably have many. And I think that what I've learned from this is there is something going on in Antarctica. And it's not what we're being told on the surface.
Starting point is 01:41:54 There is something else there, whether or not it's just a weapon, which I think that we've pretty much proven it can be for sure. or if there's, you know, if it's also a listening port, I think I have no problem believing that. I have no problem believing it's faster in my communication. I would like to know if there are structures down there from an ancient civilization or maybe even there's one buried under the ultra-terrestrial hypothesis. To me, there's absolutely something going on in Antarctica. I think we need to know more.
Starting point is 01:42:22 I want more investigation into that place. I want more evidence. Anything that comes out about that place, I'm going to be looking at right away. So last thing I'm going to say is that the thing about, about the MH370 investigation that relates to this is that we've learned their secrets. We've learned what they're really capable of now. And now we can look at the world through a slightly different lens that we were never looking at it before.
Starting point is 01:42:45 And we can wait for them to make another mistake because humans make mistakes. Even governments that have tremendous power to cause earthquakes or to teleport objects, even they make mistakes. And when they do, we're going to be there to catch them. So that's what I want to tell everybody's listening right now. Wow, that's amazing. And Dave, what is your last thoughts on Antarctica? I think if you want to get into looking into conspiracies,
Starting point is 01:43:12 Antarctica is a good place to start. There's a lot there. If you want to jumpstart it and also for Ashton, if you're looking for secret military bases, check out the Strava Data heat map that they gave out and used with Fitbit smartphones. It gives away secret military bases, patrol routes, and there's a whole bunch of bases in Antarctica
Starting point is 01:43:30 that aren't on any maps. So that's a fun thing to check out. Other than that, come check me out at Alien Addict if you like what I'm saying or you know, you message me anytime. I'm pretty easy to get a hold of. Yeah, by the way, guys, we want to give credit to Alien Addict
Starting point is 01:43:47 because they have allowed us to bring Dave on the episode. Two times now. So thank you, Dave. Alien addict has been. They're great. Yeah. You guys who go check them out on Spotify. They have, you guys have been doing a lot of audio stuff recently.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Yeah, you encouraged us to do that. And it's actually been pretty good. Like we're slowly building up. We're trying to figure out how to do our marketing. We're doing lives. We used to do a lot of lives. Now we're getting to audio. We have three interesting different perspectives.
Starting point is 01:44:20 We've had Ashton on several times. We've also gone to war on X with Ashton when people were coming. One thing. The thing about it is, dude, is like this video, what we're doing right now, just for all of the watchers. We are making zero money, though. Right now of us are. No. We are, at least we are.
Starting point is 01:44:43 We're making zero money. We could be doing a audio episode where we have our stuff and we're making money, our ads and all this stuff. But we're doing this for the people. Yeah. We're doing this because. And we appreciate you guys this time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:44:56 For sure. And I'm sure people have enjoyed it. So, you know, we've got to do that for people. And listen, so if you guys want to support Alien Addick, and I would say that you should do that. Go support them. Go find them on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcast. And the same thing with Ashen.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Where are you at Ashton? Yeah. For me, guys, it's at JustX Ashton on Twitter or at JustX Ashton on YouTube. My Twitter has been popping off with huge amounts of impressions. I think everybody who's been sharing my content, I try to follow back to people that retweet my content as well. So if you do that, you have a high probability of me following you back. I just, I'm been trying to get the information out there in general.
Starting point is 01:45:36 And I appreciate all these guys out here who have been doing what they've been doing, speaking truth to power and making it happen. Thank you everybody else who's been listening tonight. Appreciate you. Absolutely. Yeah. You guys, let's plan our next episode right now.
Starting point is 01:45:51 At the jail in the haunted house. Well, we're going to do that. We have to do a video episode of this because that's so much easier sometimes in this bullshit live stream. I hate bullshit live streams. But, um, guys, what is your, what is your, what is something that, and by the way, I, I said earlier, we did PDD last week. We had a lot of listeners. Um, next week, next Wednesday, well, this Wednesday or Thursday, let's take whatever is trending on Twitter next week and run with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Do you want to do it? Just so you guys know. Worst comes to the worst. We can look at Vanna syndrome. There's some other stuff. I mean, we'll find there's always some new thing going on. Heck, it feels like every single day there's a new major conspiracy. Bridges crashing, falling down from boats crashing into them or what have you.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Well, let's test the algorithm next Wednesday. And let's see whatever is trending Tuesday. We're going to go with Wednesday. Wait a minute. And let's just see what happens. Chad, if I could get a word in, you know, y'all, I'm having surgery Tuesday. Oh, my. So I'm going to have like a.
Starting point is 01:46:54 not rag up my nose if I come on the podcast. She's having a sign this surgery. Okay. So you're saying it's 100% confirmed then? I mean, I don't know that. Wednesday is what I'm hearing. We're penciling that in.
Starting point is 01:47:04 That's what I'm hearing. Wednesday, we're doing it. Whatever is trending Tuesday we're doing. So we're going to try this. I guarantee you. We did P. Diddy last week and we had twice the listeners. But I think it was trending. And we're going to do that.
Starting point is 01:47:22 But we wanted to really get out this in our Arctic thing. I think an Arctic is very mysterious. I think there's a lot going on there. It's so good. I think that MS. 370 ties in this a lot. I mean, there's some... There is so much we can say, guys. If you are kind of wondering, you know, hey, what are they talking about exactly when it comes to Antarctica? We don't necessarily 100% understand the energy systems. Ashton has been on our podcast four times. Ashton has been on me. many episodes of other podcasts multiple times. And it is complicated if you only hear it once.
Starting point is 01:48:06 But as you keep hearing it and keep understanding it, easier to understand. You start understanding the systems that are in place and what the capabilities of our technology in our government is. And I want everyone to understand that you have to start opening your mind to what is possible. And what we what we always thought was possible. What was that? Oh, about
Starting point is 01:48:29 Israelis demanded Netanyahu to resign. Ooh. Israelis are? Israel. Oh, yeah. Damn. But by the way, by the way, let's get into this real quick. Oh, my gosh. Ukraine is about to join NATO.
Starting point is 01:48:46 No, that's not fake. No, that's not fake. That's not fake. I saw it. There, you got to is that really fake? You've got to look at it through the lens of the media, Chad. So I think it's Title V or something that says if it's a time of war or conflict, you can't join NATO. So they would have to wait for the conflict to end.
Starting point is 01:49:06 But let's just be honest, this is more gamesmanship that's being played at the highest levels behind the scenes. You know, you can't trust anything the media says at face value at this point. It's meant to draw headlines. It's meant to be a message to Putin where they say, oh, we're showing our allegiance to, Ukraine here. Now, I'm not saying it couldn't happen. I think that all the Russia wants is the people that are the ethnic Russians to rejoin with Russia, which is Crimea, the Donbosk region, etc. I don't think they really have a lot of interest in Western Ukraine. I think that it's more just this political gamesmanship of where the weapons is going to be. We wouldn't want weapons in
Starting point is 01:49:44 Mexico aimed up at us. Absolutely not. Ashton. Ashen. Do you really think that Ukraine is actually not going to join NATO? I think that it's possible, but unlikely. It's going to be a war. Dave, what do you think? I think it's happening. It's going to be a war.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I think they want this to happen. They need this to happen. And let me tell you why. Listen, let me tell you why. Tucker Carlson said about eight months ago, seven months ago, he said there has to be a world war situation, a wartime situation for elections to be for, go and i think that if ukraine joins nato that is the ultimate scenario for a 2024 election scenario to be foregoed what do you think i think that they're feeling a crunch for some reason
Starting point is 01:50:41 these are people that typically play a long game and they're acting recklessly which makes me think that they're they're they're missing some kind of counsel or again i look at it from a cultic perspective they're trying to make some window happen. Yeah. And so they're willing to push it. But again, global war isn't going to be a nuclear war. All right. Global war is going to be an economic war,
Starting point is 01:51:06 war of ports and resources and terrorist cells and cyber attacks. And if you live in the Northeast, you're in trouble. If you think this bridge is the worst thing that's going to happen because rolling brownouts for the next three years is so ridiculously close to being a probability for you. Yeah, yeah. It should be terrifying.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Yeah, like that's what it'll be. Yeah. War is not going to be like it is like we know war as men and women signing up to be in the military to go fight wars. It's no longer wars like that anymore. No, no one was to sign up. In fact, I have a friend. He's a former Marsok officer. And they reached it.
Starting point is 01:51:49 He's been out for years. And they reached out and they're like, hey, would you be willing to? And he's like, absolutely. no. He's like, you did, you retired me. So,
Starting point is 01:52:04 yeah, it's, it's very, it's getting weird out there. Mm-hmm. It's weird. I don't know. The sun's going to rise tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:52:13 you know. Well, guys, someone you love, man. That's right. We could talk forever. I know.
Starting point is 01:52:18 I've got to drop here and go, I've tried to get some food before everything closes. Yeah, it's an awesome conversation, everybody. Yeah, we can talk forever. Guys, we love each and everyone to you. Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Make sure you share our live stream, our video. Make sure you go follow JustX. Ashton on X. Dave, what is your handle? Check us out on Alien Addict. It's easy to find me that way. Alien addict. Go check out Alien Addict.
Starting point is 01:52:47 They're great guys. And you can check me out and investigate Earth. My name is Sherry, by the way. So guys, we were so glad to have you. It's been a pleasure. It's been so much fun. Absolutely. It has.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Listen, next Wednesday or Thursday, we'll figure it out. But whatever's trending, we're going to talk about. Yes, we're going to do it. And we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:53:11 And you guys let us know. We'll follow, go follow Ashton and Dave. Dave, what is your actual handle, though? It is Black Star, Paranormal L. Dave. I'm tagged. you tagged me in your thing.
Starting point is 01:53:23 So if they're watching this, they can find me that way. Okay. All right, guys. We love you, man. Yeah. Peace out. Until next time. Guys.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Amazing. Amazing. Amazing.

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