Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Signalgate | The Accidental Leak or Intentional Deep State Sabotage?

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

In this explosive episode of the Investigate Earth Podcast, we dive headfirst into Signalgate—the shocking leak of high-level war plans after National Security Adviser Mike Waltz accidentally added The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg into a private Signal group chat. This chat, intended for discussions between top U.S. officials like Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Vice President JD Vance, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, was meant to be a secure communication about potential military operations against Houthi rebels in Yemen.But was it truly an accident, or something far more sinister? Was this an innocent technical glitch, a botched handling of sensitive information, or a deliberate ploy to leak highly classified details for political gain? And what does this say about the reliability of encrypted messaging platforms like Signal when it comes to matters of national security? Tonight, we explore all the possibilities. We dissect Waltz's claim that Goldberg’s number was “sucked into” his phone by accident, the journalist's adamant denial, and the potential motives behind such a high-profile breach. From operational incompetence to intentional sabotage, no angle is off-limits. Join us as we unravel the tangled web of Signalgate and question who—or what—might really be behind this unprecedented breach.

A new place, a new home for a while, let me feel like nothing to haul me back, tear my time, just enjoy the ride. I know my passing by, life is good best I've ever felt. Hello and welcome to Investigator Earth Podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're diving into the whirlwind controversy that has been dubbed Signalgate. This incident has sent shockwaves through the highest echelons of the U.S. government raised pressing questions about operational security, media ethics, and the intricate dance between power and information.

On March 13th, National Security Advisor Mike Waltz created a signal group chat named Houthi PC Small to coordinate discussions among top officials regarding potential military actions against Houthi rebels in Yemen. The group included prominent figures such as Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Vice President J.D. Vance, CIA director John Ratcliffe and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, among others. However, in a twist, it sounds more like a political thriller than reality. Waltz inadvertently added Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of the Atlantic into this confidential chat. Now, Goldberg, upon realizing the nature of the messages he was receiving, which detailed sensitive military strategies and operational specifics, chose to publish an expose, bringing the internal blunder into the public eye.

The fallout has been immense, with debates raging over the use of encrypted apps for classified discussions, the responsibilities of journalists when inadvertently exposed to state secrets, and the potential ramifications for national security. But as with any story of this magnitude, layers of complexity emerge. Walt has taken full responsibility for the mishap, stating he built the group and was unaware how Goldberg's name was included. He even suggested that Goldberg's contact may have been sucked into his phone via another contact, a claim, Goldberg is firmly refuted stating phone numbers don't just get sucked into other phones. This raises several pressing questions. Was this truly an innocent mistake? A mere technical glitch in the digital age or is this a deeper narrative at play? Could there have been an intentional leak aimed at exposing internal deliberations or perhaps undermining specific

individuals within the administration? The inclusion of a seasoned journalist like Goldberg in such a high-level discussion seems almost too coincidental for some to accept at face value. And moreover, the incident underscores the vulnerabilities inherent in modern communication tools. Signal, while renowned for its encryption and security features, is only as secure as us users' practices. The reliance on such platforms for critical state matters invite scrutiny, especially

when mishandled, lead into potential breaches that could have international ramifications. So, guys, welcome to the show. It is March the 30th, 2025. Many of you had reached out and wanted us to cover significant. And there were even some of you that said, oh, of course, because it's Republicans, you're not going to cover it. That's absolutely not true. We were definitely planning on covering Signalgate.

But we had to kind of wrap our head around what this actually was all about. Obviously, as you heard the intro, there are a lot of very high ranking officials in the Trump cabinet that was on signal. They had this discussion where they were essentially planning this bombing that happened inside of Yemen, targeting Houthi rebels. And obviously, for those that do not know who the Houthis are, Houthis have been at the heart of the October 7th slash, I guess you can say, wartime soldiers for Iran.

Now, Iran is they do obviously have their own army. But the Houthis in most cases are considered a very, very well trained, well organized, and well funded fight and force. And most of the time, they are funded by Iran. And then in that, they are also utilized by Iran. in many type of Middle East conflicts. So all of this came out. Obviously, Pete Heggseth was here, J.D. Vance, Mike Waltz, all of them.

And from what it sounds like, Mike Waltz actually came out and said, look, guys, I guess this was my fault. I have no idea how I possibly added the Atlantic editor-in-chief into this chat, especially considering when we go through this show, you'll understand who the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic is and how much. he deeply hates the Trump administration, which is also very interesting. Was it accident? Was it a big F up?

Or could it be some type of more sinister thing at play? Absolutely. And I'm just thinking the first thing he has to do is go through his phone contacts and see if Goldberg is even in his phone contacts to add him as a contact and signal. Yeah, for sure. It's absolutely nuts of a story. But then you also look at what's going on with Tesla and all of the protests across the country at Tesla dealerships.

Sounds like there's about 24 organizations that are now found to be funding these demonstrations, these, I guess you can say, protest. But we also know that there have been Tesla dealerships. There's been Tesla cars burnt down. There are people all across the country. They're key in Teslas. They're pissing on Teslas. They're literally opening doors and trying to throw up inside of some of these vehicles.

And these are just people that own Teslas. That is the only thing they've done wrong. Did you guys see the one, there's this guy on his four-wheeler? It's a big, big black guy. Have you seen that? And he rams into this lady's Tesla. And she happens to be a black woman too. And I don't know if she's even a Democrat or Republican.

It's just because she had a Tesla. He rammed his four-wheeler into her Tesla. Hmm. I've seen something similar to that like someone tried to ram it and then they actually flew over the handlebars. So it's just almost like karma in some ways is coming back on these people. these people also don't realize that most Tesla's record everything around the vehicle at all times. So if you get near the vehicle, it is recording, just like your ring camera on your phone, or not your phone, but on your doorbell would record or a security camera. It's absolutely nuts.

But guys, before we get in the show, I want to go ahead and say we do have all of our social medias. Go follow us over on X, Investigate Earth Podcast or Facebook, Instagram. We also have TikTok. We do have a telegram. We do not have signal. Although it sounds like because of this whole signal gate thing, it has been the most. most downloaded app over the past like week. And I guess it's just because the government is coming out and saying, hey, this is the

most encrypted app you can possibly have. Governments can't track this. Although it depended on what actually happened with this chat or deal, the signal gate, right. Maybe it was someone in somewhere in some high place, maybe the deep state that potentially had something to do with this whole signal gate deal. Well, it's just crazy that the government's even using signal because I've heard of signal. And what I know a signal is a lot of people use that in communities like gaming communities and things like that.

Signal, yeah, but there's also, I mean, there are people all around the world that use it. It's a very easy way to actually keep in touch of people, especially if you do not live in the United States, you do. Very similar to, I guess, WhatsApp, Telegram. All of these apps are, I guess, notorious for what they say is encrypted. Right. But we also know that even Telegram, for example, and we have our own telegram. Telegram channel, Investigator's podcast. If you guys want to go follow us on Telegram, we do have a little group chat over there where we go

live pretty often. But, you know, when the founder of Telegram was arrested, part of that was because he was not turning over data from his app into, I think it was the European authorities. Right. And it sounded like after he was arrested, it sounds like that maybe they made a deal to where he would start turning over data from his app, which is going to really kill Telegram if it comes out further, that, hey, we are. actually supplying information to these governments on behalf of our users.

So there are definitely apps that, you know, they claim encrypted. And so for this case, though, the Trump administration was not the administration that started the signal chats for the cabinet members. This was the Joe Biden administration that actually started the signal group chats for the cabinet members, even including in wartime or war planning situations. So you obviously know that this was not the first administration that did this. the Joe Biden administration was the first, I believe, to actually incorporate signal into a lot of their planning. I'm still just confused, though, if you are the government, the government of the United States of America,

and you're going to use an app that is so well known, like signal that anyone can get onto, I just think that's crazy. I think that the government should develop some kind of app that is only used by the government, period. Well, and that's what I can't believe. I don't know how they don't have apps like this that they would use by themselves. Yeah. You know, for example, the government we know has a system called Pegasus, which is a system that can completely hack any device on the planet, essentially. There's nothing safe from the Pegasus system.

And many people have talked about it before, including ex-CIA officers, ex-FBI agents. You know, if you think that your phone is unhackable, you think that you are behind a VPN, in or you think that you're using a text in a messaging app that you're going to skirt the, I guess, surveillance state. It's just not possible, especially with Pegasus out there and other programs. They're designed to hack, you know, whatever it is. I mean, it doesn't matter what it is. And even including, you know, we've talked about this before as well.

You know, you could have a fire stick remote that has the ability to where you can talk into the microphone and say, hey, Alexa, do this or hey, do this. And your TB will do this. If you have a device that is capable of actually listening to you, then that Pegasus system and your government can also listen to you. And they can listen to you without the device even being on. They can listen to you potentially without the device even being plugged in. And we're talking about as deep as even the remotes for fire sticks.

Well, think about this. You know, you guys have heard this commercial that's out, the Alexa commercial. And it says, hey, Alexa, every time that commercial comes on, our phone. phones both react. No, none are phone, but no, it's the, our fire pads. Yeah, or whatever we got. Yeah, it'll say, please unlock this device every time that commercial on comes on. But another real quick funny, I just want to tell you guys, I was watching these videos

today and it was this gray parrot. These parrots are really smart. This parrot has actually learned how to use Alexa and turn on music and it'll have Alexa, well, I hate to say it, but it has Alexa. It says fart, Alexa. and Alexa will fart for the bird and then the bird copies it. It was the funniest crap ever, but it'll play like music or anything. That's all it does all day is it interacts with Alexa.

Yeah. I mean, that's a great pair too. I've always kind of one of those. They're supposedly, I think they're supposed to have like a 12-year-old mind or whatever. I mean, they're extremely smart, just like dolphins are or whatever. But so here's the actual article from the Atlantic. It says the Trump administration accidentally texted me its war plans. and it says U.S. national security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen.

I didn't think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling. So he didn't supposedly think that it was real until the bombs started falling. And he said the world found out shortly before 2 p.m. Eastern Time on March 15th that the United States was bombing Huthy targets across Yemen. I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegsat, the Secretary of Defense, had texted the war plan at 1144 a.m.

The plan included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing. And he says this is going to require some explaining. The story technically began shortly after the Hamas invasion of southern Israel in October of 2023. The Houthis and I ran back terrorist organization whose motto is, God is great, death to America, death to Israel, curse on the Jews, victory to Islam, soon launch attacks on Israel and on international shipping, creating havoc for global trade. Throughout 2024, the Biden administration was ineffective in countering these Houthi attacks.

The incoming Trump administration promised a tougher response. This is where Pete Hegseth and I come in. On Tuesday, March 11th, I received a connection request on Signal from a user identified as Mike Watts. Signal is an open source encrypted messaging service popular with journalists and others who seek more privacy than other text messaging services are capable of delivering. I assume that Michael Watts in question was President Donald Trump's Massachusetts' match. national security advisor. I did not assume, however, that the request was from the actual Michael Waltz. I have met him in the past, and though I didn't find it particularly strange that he might

be reaching out to me, I did think it's somewhat unusual, given the Trump administration contentious relationship with journalists and Trump's periodic fixation on me specifically. It immediately crossed my mind that someone could be masquerading as Waltz in order to somehow entrap me. It is not all that in common these days for nefarious actors to try to induce journalists to share information that could be used against them. I accepted the connection request, hoping that this was the actual national security advisor and that he wanted to chat about Ukraine or Iran or some other important matter.

Two days later, Thursday at 428 p.m., I received a notice that I was to be included in a signal chat group. It was called the Houthi PC small group. A message to the group from Michael Waltz reads as follows, team, establishing a principal's group for coordination on Houthis, particularly for over the next 72 hours. My deputy Alex Wong is pulling together a Tiger team at deputies agency chief of staff level following up from the meeting in the sit room this morning for action items and will be sending that out later this evening.

The message continued, please provide the best staff POC from your team for us to coordinate with over the next couple of days and over the weekend. Thanks. So the term principal committee, he says, generally refers to a group of the senior most national security officials, including the Secretary's Defense, State, and the Treasury as well as the director of the CIA. It should go without saying, but he says I'll say it anyway, that I have never been invited to a White House Principles Committee meeting, and that in many years of reporting

on national security matters, I had never heard of one being convened over a commercial messaging app. But that's where he's wrong, because the Biden administration started the signal app use, especially for stuff like this. And he says one minute later, a person identified only as MAR or M-A-R, the Secretary of State is Marco Antonio Rubo wrote, Mike Needleham for State, apparently designating the current counselor of the State Department as his representative. So before we go any more into that actual article, there's an easy way to listen this.

And I want you guys to listen. If you've already read the chat or whatever, fine. But either way, CNN did work very hard to make sure that everyone knew what was said in the chat. And they even included an AI model to make sure everyone heard what was in the signal chat. And so I'm going to quickly play that real quick so that you at least get some ideas. on what the chat actually said. Listen. OVP and POTUS are briefed. Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan,

but I think we are making a mistake. 3% of U.S. trade runs through the Suez. 40% of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message. But I am not sure the president is aware

how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself. But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc. There is nothing time-sensitive driving the timeline. This is Joe Kent. We'll have the exact same options in a month.

The Israelis will likely take strikes and therefore ask us for more support to replenish whatever they use against the Houthis. But that's a minor factor. Joe Kent, by the way, is the active chief of staff. I will send you the unclass data we pulled on BAM shipping. From CIA perspective, we are mobilizing assets to support now, but a delay would not negatively impact us, and additional time would be used to identify better starting points

for coverage on Houthi leadership. VP. This is Pete Hegseth. I understand your concerns and fully support you raising with POTUS. Important considerations, most of which are tough to know how they play out. Economy, Ukraine, peace, Gaza, etc. I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what. Nobody knows who the Houthis are, which is why we would need to stay focused on. One, Biden failed, and two, Iran funded. Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally

change the calculus. Two immediate risks on waiting. One, this leaks, and we look indecisive. Two, Israel takes an action first, or Gaza cease fire falls apart, and we don't get to start this on our own terms. We can manage both. We are prepared to execute, and if I had final go or no-go vote, I believe we should. This, not about the Houthis. I see it as two things. One, restoring freedom of navigation, a core national interest, and two, re-established

deterrence, which Biden cratered. But we can... I want to talk about it. pause for a second. And what he's talking about with the shipping lanes is that the Houthis for a very long time has been basically hitting the shipping channel through there continuously with missiles, bombs, you name it. So this was a major reason why, number one, they wanted to strike this area of Yemen. And they wanted to strike this specific group of Houthis because this was the group that was basically blockading the shipping lanes, not just for shipping, likely also for either U.S.,

Israeli or other support in the Middle East for Israel. And I think that was rationally probably their entire goal for this mission. So I just did want to point that out. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% obsec. I welcome other thoughts. The trade figures we have are 15% of global and 30% of container. So this is the guy that supposedly brought in the Atlantic reporter. Okay.

So he is the national security advisor. To break that down to U.S. specific, because much of the container, either going through the Red Sea still or around the Cape of Good Hope, are components going to Europe that turns into manufactured goods for transatlantic trade to the United States. Whether we pull the plug or not today, European navies do not have the capability to defend against the types of sophisticated, anti-ship, cruise missiles, and drones the Houthis are now using. So whether it's now or several weeks from now, it will have to be the United States that reopens these shipping lanes.

Per the President's request, we are working with DOD and State to determine how to compile the cost associated and levy them on the Europeans. As we stated in the first PC, we have a fundamental decision of allowing the sea lanes to remain closed or to reopen them now or later. We are the only ones with the capability, unfortunately. From a messaging standpoint, we absolutely add this to a horribles on why the Europeans must invest in their defense. Here, J.D. V. P. H. Seth, if you think we should do it, let's go. I just hate bailing Europe out again. Let's just make sure our messaging is tight here. And if there are things we can do up front to minimize risk to Saudi oil facilities, we should do it. VP, I fully share your loathing of European freeloading. It's pathetic. But Mike is correct. We are the only ones on the planet, on a our side of the ledger who can do this. Nobody else even close. Question is timing. I feel like now's as good a time as any, given POTUS directive to reopen

shipping lanes. I think we should go, but POTUS still retains 24 hours of decision space. As I heard it, the president is clear, White House Chiefs of Staff, but we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return. We also need to figure out how to enforce such a requirement. e.g., if Europe doesn't remunerate, then what? If the U.S. successfully restores freedom of navigation at great cost, there needs to be some further economic gain extracted in return. Agree. Team Update. Time now. 1,215-E. F-18's launch. First Strike package. 1345. Trigger-based F-18 first strike window starts. Target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time.

Also, strike drones launch, MQ9s, 140010, more F18's launch, second strike package, 1415, strike drones on target. This is when the first bombs will definitely drop, pending earlier trigger-based targets. 1536, F-18-second strike starts. Also, first sea-based tomahawks launched. More to follow per timeline. We are currently clean on Opsic. Godspeed to our warriors. I will say a prayer for victory.

VP, building collapsed. Had multiple positive ID. Pete. Corilla, the IC, amazing job. What? Typing too fast. Mike Walt. The first target, their top missile guy,

we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend's building and it's now collapsed. Excellent. A good start. John Rack. Good job, Pete and your team. The team in MAL did a great job as well. Stephen Miller. powerful start.

CENTCOM is on point. Great job all. More strikes ongoing for hours tonight and will provide full initial report tomorrow, but on time, on target, and good readout so far. So there's the chat. I mean, it was war planning, obviously, in signal chat. But it did not give a like address, a location. It did kind of say, yeah, we're going to try to open these shipping lanes open, right?

And they were going after the. target terrorist guy. Yeah. But there was no known location. There was nothing of jeopardy to jeopardize our military. Yeah, I mean, look, here's obviously the thing that we have to understand. Number one, we should not be using a signal to war plan for any scenario. I have no idea why we would do that.

And we're going to get in a little bit to how actually Joe Biden is the one that created this signal chat type deal to where the executive branch used this. I have no idea why someone somewhere did not come along and say, we should not be using this. I don't know what we need to use, but we got to use something extremely secure. We got to go back to for a moment, you know, when Hillary Clinton used her private email server that she had set up in her house, remember where she had to whitewash her damn, you know, her drives because she was so scared of whatever it was that was on her private drives. and the reasoning that you do not, or sorry, the reasoning that Hillary Clinton does do this on a

public type email or her personal email, I should say, is because it abades the FOIA request act, right? So if someone wanted to FOIA, whatever these 26,000 emails to hear what Hillary Clinton had in that time frame, they could not FOIA those because they were technically non-existent as long as she did them on her own private email. And she did this with various other people. we think Obama was involved in this. Obama knew about it.

You know, this was a massive scandal for obvious reasons. You have 26,000 plus emails on a private server where you are talking about classified information. She never, ever went to jail for that. The media completely downplay the Hillary Clinton emails. Instead, what they did was they went against anyone talking about the emails by saying that they were conspiracy theorists. And they made a huge deal out of the fact that Trump said that we should lock her up, especially for the emails. and then all the everything that kind of came along with how much her team and her campaign tried to accuse Trump as being a Russia collusionist and he was working with Russia on behalf of Russia

and and you know he was a Russian agent but yet you saw how the media reacted to that story they went completely in favor of Hillary Clinton with these 26,000 emails that she literally acid washed because she had no other way she wanted to ensure that there was no other way that anyone can ever see what was on those emails. God forbid, we'd love to know what was on those emails. Never will know. Well, that was kind of smart on her part. I'm just going to say.

Yeah, so she was at the time. Because she was able to get rid of them. Yeah, so think about us, Secretary of State, Obama, Joe Biden, this whole thing. But the media, what they did during that time was make sure that they covered everything up on that. Now, you have this signal chat about a war plan type scenario that somehow this had Atlantic Reporter slash editor got into. This was a very short chat. Everything that was in the chat you basically just heard.

But yet the media is going crazy on this. They're talking about Signalgate. This is the craziest thing. I'm surprised they have not compared this to 9-11 so far because that's what they did with January 6th. This is how the media reacts and hoops stuff up. But as I said, there, and we've talked about this even after Trump won the nomination and became president of the United States number 47.

I said that just because Trump's end does not mean the warfare is going to stop. Now, here is the question. Number one, signal should not be used at all, not the question. But why would they use signal? Number two, was it just a dumb, stupid mistake by Mike Walsh to somehow include a editor-in-chief, Atlantic reporter, which we're going to go over all of the things? Yeah, because we need to. Because when you think about signal, Chad, do you not have to have them as like a friend,

or a contact to add them to a group? Yes, you do. Yeah, you do. And I'm just trying to find real quick here. There's a lot of stuff. Now, I also want to play Dave Portnoy's view on this. Dave Portnoy, he said political rant incoming on the Houthis League group chat. And I am going to play this because this is the consensus of a lot of people.

So I do want to play this quick clip. It's not very long. But here's what Dave Portnoy says, the owner of Barstool Sports, that, you know, does do some political rants from time to time. He seems like he's been more right than left. And I think more so Dave Portnoy is kind of sinner. But now sinner is considered right. Yeah, but he's going to call things out when he sees it.

He is. Yeah. And so this is what Dave Portnoy had to say, listen. All right. Incoming political rant, if you don't like political rants, keep it moving. I don't blame you. This hooties, hoothies, this hoothies signal group chat, the Atlantic. controversy. I'll try to catch you up real quick. So basically the U.S. launch an attack on the Houthis

a couple days ago, terrorist group, successful attack, killed a bunch of them, very successful by all nature, opened up like the passageway for ships and cargo ships that were being terrorized. So successful attack. Well, comes out after the fact that Jeffrey Goldberg, who's the editor of the Atlantic, the Atlantic is a magazine that basically hates Trump, hates the left, hates people like me, think, uh, business insider, think New York Times, think New York magazine, all the, the heavy left leaning media organizations. The Atlantic is one of them. Like I hate them.

Uh, Trump hates them. They hate Trump. They probably hate me. So the editor, Jeffrey Goldberg comes out after he's like, hey, uh, morons, you guys included me on a single group chat with sensitive classified information discussing the the Houthi's attack before it happened. Pete Heskiff's immediate reaction is like, no, that never happened. We didn't leak any classified information.

Oh, classified information in there. And Jeffrey Goldberg released all the text in the single group chat. And guess what? It's super sensitive. It's super classified. It's surreal that these guys added Jeffrey Goldberg to this group chat. I mean, they were talking about the attack, leading up to the attack. all the way to a couple hours when they're going to do it, the time, the weather, you name it.

And if this information somehow got out to the Houthis, and I assume in situations like this, things move at the speed of light. Lots of American soldiers could have died, lives in jeopardy. So to me, a major, major, major, major glitch in intelligence and just a huge mistake. It looked like Michael Waltz, the national security advisor to the president, added Jeffrey Goldberg to the group chat by accident and J.D. Vansis, and it looks like he added him by accent. Listen, we've all texted the wrong person. We've all emailed the wrong person. We've all had somebody who shouldn't be in a group chat in a group chat in our lives.

We are not the Secretary of Defense. We're not the National Security Advisor. We're not the Vice President of the United States. So, yeah, mistakes happen. This one can't. Here's my biggest issue with this. And this has been politics in general. The reaction of like Pete Heskiff and President Trump has been to kind of poo-poo it be like there was no classified information in there. Trump's like, you know, how did, how did Jeffrey Goldberg get in there? Like, did he hack it? Did he get in there? It didn't stay very long. The Atlantic is a horrible organization and a terrible magazine, which they are and I hate them. And by the way, if Jeffrey Goldberg, he didn't hack it, he got added, But if he did hack it, that's almost more dangerous that somebody like Jeffrey Goldberg.

If he can hack the most sensitive, sensitive group chats, what are our enemies doing? Trump, I get being loyal to your people. I don't like firing people on innocent mistakes that they make. But this, and I've seen a lot of people be like, oh, you're mad about this, but we had a president like Biden with dementia who had the nuclear codes. Yeah, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. That wasn't right then. and this isn't right now.

In this new administration, you want to take accountability. Trump, you may love Michael Waltz. You love Pete Heskiff. You may love these guys. Somebody has to go down. To me, it's Michael Waltz. He's the one who added him to this conversation. But you can't have the top of the top security people in the United States

with the most sensitive information in the world adding random editors of a magazine that hates Trump's guys. guts to a group chat talking about an attack before it happens on a terrorist group. You can't poo-poo it. You can't downplay it. You have to sit up there and be like, holy shit, this is a fuck-up of epic proportions. There will be accountability. I will get to the bottom of this.

And frankly, I think I don't like calling for people's heads. Michael Waltz, it seems like you're the guy who added him to the group chat. you have to lose your job. You should step down. You cannot be adding random people to a group chat with this sensitive classified information. Just be like, oh, no, poo, pooh. It's on him and he should have left the group chat instantly. This guy shouldn't have stayed in.

It's on Jeffrey Goldberg for not immediately being like, hey, I should be here. No, no. It's on you for adding them. And this has to be something that, and this is why hate politics. You have to stand up here and be like, What a fuck up. I will demand answers, accountability in the heads. I don't care if you're right left.

This is a, there's nothing being made up here. Jeffrey Goldberg is telling the truth. It's obvious these texts are real. It's obvious they're classified. It's obvious we gave away the strike information two hours before it happened. We're lucky it didn't cause the death of American military members. Somebody has to go down for this. This is a mistake.

This isn't a barstool mistake where you let an idiot hang around like Mizzy. This is a mistake that can't happen twice. It cannot happen once. So you have to make a change and show it'll never happen. And these are the top, top intel guys we have in the country, adding a rando, the editor of the Atlantic to the most sensitive group chat in the world. Somebody's got to go down. That's just the facts. You can't poo-poo this.

All right. So there's Dave Portnoy's opinion on this. And I totally agree with Dave, if it was a mistake, you know, it's just like when Trump had the apprentice. You know, he fire people all the time. If you don't do your job properly, you got to go. Yeah. And if it was a serious mistake, then he's got to go. For sure.

But if it's something else nefarious, then we need to look into these things. Yeah. I agree with that, Sherry, actually. I think you said it best here. And that's why we're going to go into could it be nefarious, right? Because we have to call out Trump's team just as much. with Biden's team. And look, I think it goes without saying that if Goldberg, Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of

the Atlantic would have accidentally been added into Joe Biden's war planning team on Signal. Do you think that he would have ever written an article about that? Oh, no. He wouldn't. But the point he was added. You're right. You're right. And you also have to think, especially if you're Trump and you know that most media

hates your guts because most media is ran still by the deep state, which I'm still waiting on all of that all of those connections whoever finds those connections just like they're starting to find connections on who is funding these Tesla protests riots burning of cars you name it I want to see how the deep state and these NGOs and all this is funding these you know mass mainstream media companies but you even have to be more cautious when you are doing things especially as Trump's team when everyone wants you to go down they all want you to be buried yes under the dirt and then you literally make a mistake like this. Now, what we have to understand is, or at least question, is this a mistake?

And or is there more nefarious things that could have happened here? And that's what we're going to break down. One of the things I was thinking about was, with all this being said, Laura Lumer came out and started kind of digging. And Laura Lumer's recent post, which everybody is like, did Lumer actually figure this shit out somewhat? I mean, don't know for sure, but let's at least read through. some of what she said.

She says exclusive. And what I will say about Laura Lumer is when she usually does these deep dives and she has these breaking stories, she's nine times out of ten correct. I don't know who the hell her sources are, but, you know, what I will say is that she is definitely Jewish. So she might have some intel sources from Israel that not a lot of people have. But she's always breaking stories somehow, some way that she's right about. usually comes out later that she was right about this.

So this post we at least have to listen to. Yeah. And she's the type of person you either love her or you hate her. Yeah. So she said deputy national security advisor. Alex Wong's father-in-law had direct ties to the Chinese Communist Party. So this is Alex Wong, which is under Mike Waltz. Was it Alan or Alex Wong?

Alex Wong. Alex Wong. So the father of Candice Shu Wong, the wife of Alex Wong, the Trump appointed Chinese Deputy National Security Advisor under Michael Waltz, who is now at the center of the Signalgate scandal, was directly tied to the Chinese Communist Party and the People's Liberation Army of China via his 23-year-long career with AsiaSat, the leading satellite solutions provider in Asia.

Now, AsiaSat Holdings is jointly owned by Chinese state-owned CITIC, Unlimited and Private Equity Fund, the Carlisle Group. Now, AsiaSat is essentially partially owned by the CCP as a state-owned entity in China. Now, Dr. Yahi Chu, Alex Wong's father-in-law, was a key figure in the early development of AsiaSat. He joined the company in 1989 and played a pivotal role in his technical operations according to records that she uncovered. As a senior technical overseer of AsiaSat, Chu managed all aspects of the launches of AsiaSat. 1, Asia Sat 2, Asia Sat 3S, and Asia Sat 4, and Asia Sat 5 while supervising the maintenance and operation of the company's satellite fleet. Now, Asia's first privately owned satellite company, has provided communication services that reportedly support Chinese military units and enterprises owned by Chinese military, raising questions about its broader geopolitical implication.

Now, Chu's personal ties extend into U.S. national security circles. He is the father of Candace Chu Wong. He was married to Alex Wong, which is the current deputy national security advisor under the Trump administration. So this familial connection has drawn attention to AsiaSat operations, particularly given us ownership structure and how it's kind of laid out. In 1990, the China International Trust and Investment Corporation, also known as CITIC, a Chinese state-owned investment firm who controlled by the Chinese government acquired a significant stake in AsiaSat. CITIC's involvement underscores the company's ties to Beijing, amplifying concerns about the potential overlap between its commercial activities and Chinese state interest,

including military communications. While AsiaSat has operated as a commercial entity serve in the Asia-specific region, its satellite fleet role in facilitating Chinese military communications, combined with C-TIC's ownership places at the intersection of the tech. technological innovation and strategic influence. So Dr. Shue's tenure, spanning critical launches and operational milestones, highlights his instrumental role during a period when Asia Sat solidified his position in the satellite industry, even as his services extended to state-linked clients.

The overlap between shoes employment, Asia-Sat's ownership, and its high-profile familial links in the U.S. should have resulted in more scrutiny by the Trump administration during the vetting process of Alex Wong. who works as the Trump-appointed Deputy National Security Advisor under National Security Director Michael Waltz. She says, I have been told by sources that Senator Tom Cotton is the individual who helped Alex Wong ascend the latter in Trump world. Why didn't Senator Tom Cotton do any vetting if he's such a China Hawk? How come it took my own independent investigation to figure this out? The vetting crisis continues to worsen. Now, Dr. Yahi Chu, retired from Asia sat into two.

2012 and passed away in 2016. Alex Wong has been working with President Trump since the first Trump administration in 2017. He was on the signal chat, which Jeffrey Goldberg was added to. Alex Wong was the Deputy Assistant Secretary for North Korea in the Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs for 2017 and 2021. Many believe that Alex Wong is the person who set the signal chat up and added the Atlantic to the secure chat. How is it that Alex Wong's father-in-law ties to the C-Sys to the C-Sys. were not reviewed or disclosed to the public before he was given access to classified information.

And don't forget, Alex's wife is a U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. And so, yeah, so she is a, she is the, I guess, attorney general or something for the District of Columbia. She has a lot of ties to a Democrat Party. They were married Saturday at D.R. Memorial Continental Hall in Washington. This is kind of a little bit about her. she was the retired United States Supreme Court Justice from who the bride was clerk from July 2012. A couple met at Harvard for which their bride graduate and received a law degree.

She's a litigation associate. She's a daughter of Mealing Fang and Yu Hai Chu in Ridgillin, New Jersey. But from what it sounds like is that she was a pretty big Democrat. And actually, there was a lot of information that she had ties to a lot of the Democrat Party. is back in the day. So are we saying this is all one big conspiracy that somehow Alex Wong actually made sure that because you got to understand that Mike Waltz, you know, he does, he is the main guy over Alex Wong.

Yeah, Alex Wong is the deputy under him. Yes. I have two things to say about this. Two words, two key words that came up in that article that you read from Laura Lumer, China and Democrat. Anyone from China or anyone's a Democrat is going to try to do anything to jeopardize this administration. And to me, in Trump's first administration, if Alex Wong was part of that, he should have relooked into who he was and what he is. Because he found out in his first administration, a lot of people went against him.

And a lot of people were not there for the right reasons. He already learned that. He did that. And that's why he went this way. this time and picked his own people instead of letting people help him pick people. Well, you have to understand that, like, if you're looking for spies or people that are going to infiltrate your cabinet, you should be looking now more than ever. And I'm not saying that the signal gate thing is the result of some type of Chinese spy or

some type of espionage or something within our own government. I mean, you would like to say that that's the case, especially if you're a Trump supporter, you like the administration. But nonetheless, we at the very least know that there are definitely type of. to the Chinese Communist Party that are under the National Security Advisor for the United States of America. And that is a very bad thing that no one should ever have access to that type of information. Yeah, I was going to say, is that a smart thing to have? Well, of course not.

I mean, the reality of this is like, yes, you are Trump and then you're trying to pick as many people as you can. But I just feel like there are going to be non-state actors that are going to infiltrate your cabinet on levels that you've never seen or heard from before. I mean, we didn't just go from the Biden and Harris administration that literally, I believe, was controlled by other nations, not our own. I think that the Biden Harris administration were puppets of the Chinese Communist Party. I think there were puppets 100% positively of the deep state. And I think so much of our deep state and the globalist and China are so connected, you just wouldn't believe. And there were so many things that always thought about as far as like, it only only was. almost seemed in so many ways that the Biden-Harris administration were almost like controlled

by Chinese assets. Right. Because if you think about what was allowed to happen under their administration where China, China, basically Chinese Communist Party companies were coming over, buying up our farmland right next to military bases. They were allowing 40 to 50 to 60,000 Chinese nationals over across our border to then, you know, be utilized, I guess, for these plants or bases or whatever they're building over here in the United States.

even during the Biden-Harris administration, they had Chinese police in New York City and some of the other, I guess you can say, sanctuary cities. And what Biden and Harris basically told China was, yeah, we'll allow your police over here to police your citizens, which makes no sense to me whatsoever. That's never made sense to me. Why would you have a Chinese police department in China? I mean, sorry, in New York. In New York. Yeah, in New York and especially in New York. And they said, oh, well, we allowed them over here because that they have specific laws and beliefs in China about they should also be policing in our country.

This is what Biden and Harris set up for the Chinese Communist Party for their police forces. Just like they were setting up their own little military bases, it seems like, all across our country. Yeah, to get over to America. Yeah. So that's why I always say that I do 100% believe that there was, there's always been a connection, I think, in some degree. but I definitely think, you know, if supposedly China is our biggest adversary, which I do believe likely they are. Right.

And even though Russia's kind of given Trump a fit right now, too. Well, he is, but nonetheless, it doesn't matter about that. What it does matter is, is that you never heard Democrats ever really talking shit about China. I mean, it was almost like they were in bed with China. They hate Russia, didn't really ever talk too much shit about China. And there's probably reasons behind that. just like they're trying to say, you know, Trump doesn't really say a lot about Russia, even though he is now.

He's saying it's pissed off at Vladimir Putin for whatever reason. He might invoke more tariffs because I guess Putin is not, I guess, going with the game plan, especially with a ceasefire and what Trump wants to do. But I do want to play this Scott Jennings, where he was on CNN, and he talked about the signal chat leak. And then we're going to get to another video to break this down to even further listen here. Believe in accountability. I think Republicans aren't interested in the lectures. on accountability in the military after the Biden administration.

I mean, the bar for getting rid of a secretary of defense is apparently pretty high. You can get 13 people killed and go AWOL and not tell the commander in chief. And that's not a fireball offense. He did his lectures about accountability and national security after letting 10 million people into the country who raped and murdered and committed violent acts and no remorse or accountability. What are you talking about? No more lectures. No more lectures about national security.

This was a hugely successful mission. The decision was righteous. The strike was the. exact right thing to do, and it was executed flawlessly. He was not on that signal chain, but the idea that he didn't know about it when he was first asked about it, and the extent to which he doesn't know seems rather to live. If he didn't know and he didn't have the facts or he hadn't been briefed on it, what is the alternative here to go out and make something up or to say, I don't know, I haven't been told. And my understanding is he didn't know about it. He wasn't on it.

Maybe he wasn't even aware what signal is. I mean, it is not inconceivable that the president, when I didn't see the timestamps on these questions, didn't actually. have enough information to comment publicly at the time on any of these matters. It's not, it's not out of the ordinary for a president to hold back until they have all the facts or all the things they need to know to make a legitimate comment. He has not been briefed and he can't speak to it. And what's worse? A president not having all the information he needs to make a legitimate comment. So he holds back in the moment before being ready to make a comment. Or, I don't know, willfully lying to the American people about the condition of the president of the United States,

which went on for four years in this country by all of your colleagues. That is totally wrong. That is totally wrong. I hope you read all the books that are coming out. I hope you read all the books that are coming out. Joe Biden. I mean, I don't know if you're a judge. If you're a judge.

If you're a judge. I want to get more facts. And I'm going to be lectured by the people who lied to the American people about the condition of the president. Oh, my God. No way. No, but that's, first of all, that's outrageous. Is it? Yes, it is.

You think the truth was told? You think the truth was told? I will say, Did the White House tell the truth? I will look forward to this discussion. Do you all believe the truth was told about Biden? Scott, do you want government or do you want your lick back? Because even if all of that happened in the past, we're in the present.

We need a president that it's capable. And so what? He said, I don't know. Did it hurt your life? That he said, I don't know. Biden did it. Sure, I can. Of course I can.

For four years. I absolutely can. I absolutely can. You cannot. Biden wrote it for four years on Trump and Obama wrote it for eight years on George W. Bush. You're damn right. Yeah. And I mean, that's the thing. All ex or all current presidents

blame the past presidents. But we definitely know what we just came from in the Biden Harris administration. Our country was damn near over. And to me, this whole signal gate thing should not have happened in any way, shape, or form. Absolutely. But what I do know is that the media is desperately trying to put

everyone on the Trump cabinet under the bus and they want to destroy this entire administration for various reasons, especially considering you have Pete Hegseth, you have a Trump administration that is not pro-war. They do not want war. So the military industrial complex, just like RFK, there's some scandal that may be coming out about RFK. They're going to try to destroy him as well.

And that's the biopharmaceutical complex over there. Yeah, and I definitely want to get back to these complexes because I think that has a lot to do with what's going on here. But I'm still stuck on this Laura Lumer article with Alex Wong and his wife being this top person and her, his father-in-law, law being this China person. And another thing I wanted to bring up is Tom Cotton. You know, I've always liked Tom Cotton. And from what that article said is Tom Cotton helped Alex Wong kind of go to the top. Yeah.

And that he was under scrutiny like a couple weeks ago for that. I don't know if it was for exactly for the Alex guy. Yeah. But people were looking at him and saying, you got to make sure that this guy is here for the right reasons. And I'm like, why would they even look at it? at Tom Cotton for this because I've always seen him be pretty like diplomatic, I guess. And, you know, he definitely is a Republican, but he has been, you know, in the forefront of the,

you know, the whole process. Well, what you're saying is Tom Cotton, it seems like, has always said the right thing. Yeah. Right. And I think that's where we have to always be cognizant of the people that supposedly represent us. And I think that there is a great awakening. And there are, there is people that are starting to realize it's not necessarily about Democrats and Republicans because there are definitely a lot of that a lot of Republicans that might as well just be damn Democrats. They might as well just be as corrupt as all the Democrats, not all.

But, you know, many of the Democrats you see on mainstream television at, you know, any given moment, there are definitely people that just don't want to lose their primaries. They don't want to be primary. They don't want to lose their seat in the house. So they're going to say whatever it is. But what are they really doing behind the scenes that may be influencing or, you know, self-destructing from within this administration. And we don't know this, Tom Cotton. We don't know any of this. But, you know, we didn't know any of this. I at least didn't used to know any of this about George W. Bush. And, you know, if you really do your research

on George W. and his father and all of the corrupt shit that they were involved in and how they, you know, essentially infiltrated the cabinet and the White House and via the CIA to where they were the ones that were disseminating information to our president rather than the president actually having a team around him. The CIA controlled the information to the president in his cabinet. George Sr. did this. George W. emphasized on that. Even Linda B. Johnson. And we had our episode about our- Yeah, the list goes on and on. You can't really trust anyone in government. Now, we had our episode on the JFK murder, which you guys should definitely go listen to.

It kind of directly ties back to Linda B. Johnson. But you just don't know what to believe anymore. Now, I do want to play this quick clip real quick from Laura Lumer based on her recent report. I don't want to forget this, but listen. Alex Wong is the Deputy National Security Advisor serving under Michael Waltz. He is also an assistant to President Donald Trump. And if you're following my reports, then you'll see that Alex Wong is one of the individuals who was in this signal chat that Michael Waltz is now taking responsibility for setting up.

But if you look at the signal messages, it clearly says that, oh, Alex Wong is my deputy and I put him in charge with making sure that everybody gets in this chat. And the controversy is how a leftist reporter by the name of Jeffrey Goldberg, who works for a hostile anti-Trump publication known as the Atlantic, was able to get added to this top secret. chat with Intel officials and key administration officials, and it's now quite an embarrassment to the Trump administration. So here's the tweet I posted the other day in case you haven't seen it. Alex Wong, he's Chinese. All right, so I'm not going to play any more of that because she's basically going to go over what she already went over before.

But before we get any deeper, I want to also play real quick, Caroline Levitt, which is the White House Press Secretary. she swiftly traces the signal hoax back to longtime Trump critic Jeffrey Goldberg laying out the key history and details that dismantled the media's manufactured narrative, as she says, in this thing where she was asked about it. And I just want you to listen to this. Goldberg is an anti-Trump hater. He is a registered Democrat. Goldberg's wife is also a registered Democrat and a big Democrat donor who used to work under who, Hillary Clinton. This is the same Jeffrey Goldberg who, infamously.

lied about weapons of mass destruction to get us into the Iraq war, which cost trillions of dollars and thousands of American soldiers. And how else has Goldberg discredited himself by absurdly claiming that President Trump was Vladimir Putin during the 2016 campaign? By peddling the Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia hoax that tried to hijack President Trump's first term, by inventing the Suckers and Losers hoax to help Joe Biden in the 2020 election, by pedaling a hoax about President Trump involving Gold Star families to help Kamala Harris in the 2024 election, which our campaign at the time vigorously denied Jeffrey Goldberg didn't care. There's more, but we don't have all day, and we can now add the signal hoax to this very long list. The real story here is the overwhelming

success of President Trump's decisive military action against hootty terrorists. On March 15th, President Trump ordered a series of military operations against the terrorist Houthis to defend U.S. shipping assets in the Red Sea, restore freedom of navigation for international shipping, and defend the United States from enemy threats. United States forces successfully struck dozens of targets across Houthi-controlled territory. And as a result of these actions, several Houthi leaders were killed, including the Houthi drone chief, his deputy, and several of their Joan experts and other key leaders. All right.

So there's what Caroline Levin said. Now, I want to go ahead and say this real quick. If this was not some type of conspiracy to allow this journalist into the signal chat, you got you better, and I side with Portnoy on this. I side with you, even your first take as we were hearing all this stuff. You know, you got to come out at some point in time and say, look, you know, we have investigated this. Yep.

And they have to investigate further. He effed this up. Yep. And I know whether he wants to fire him or not, I'm not even necessarily saying you should fire him 100%. But maybe you should because, you know. You have to come out and say, listen, this was a mistake. This was a huge mistake. We cannot let this happen again or you're going to lose American trust.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know a whole lot about Mike Waltz. Right. And it's just interesting that Mike Waltz is almost like taking the fall for Alex Wong. if Laura Lumer's story is correct, which it sounds like it is. Well, it's not even that. Mike Waltz isn't really the one.

Hear this out for a second. Okay, we know, supposedly, that Mike Waltz has already, I guess, said, okay, I guess it was me because, you know, I added this person. Obviously, I was the one that was adding people or whatever. And, but yet what the media, who the media wants fired is Pete Heggseth. It's not Mike Watts. Oh, yeah. Mainstream media want Pete Hexs has. Yeah.

they've gone into the drinking thing, the alcoholism thing. Was he drinking? Was he doing this? Was he doing that? So why would they, why would they be shifting their focus to Pete Heggseth, even though it was Mike Waltz, national security advisor, that actually let this person in? And why would maybe, even in that circumstance, the media be trying to somewhat maybe protect Mike Walks?

Interesting. I mean, think about that. Interesting theory. But they're shifting all their focus to Pete Heggsson. Yes. Even though literally this dude was like, yeah, I guess it was. me, you know, this is what happened. Yeah, it was my mistake.

We got to get P. Heggseth out of there then. I mean, it just makes no sense to me unless there is some type of protection over Mike Walts in some way, shape, or form. It does make complete sense when you think about it. And it goes back to what you're talking about, what Bobby Kennedy is fighting, what Pete Heggseth is fighting, these military complex, the pharmaceutical complex. Yeah. When we're fighting big companies like this, that's who they want to take.

out is the main guys. Now, I want to, I want to talk about this for a second as we're just kind of hanging out with you guys on the Sunday evening. You guys, many of you got to go back to work tomorrow. Many of you listen this at your job today, which would probably be Monday for you. But let's talk about this for a second as well. We talked about the RFK thing. Now, over the past three or four days, we had seen some crazy stuff blow up.

And I'm going to get to an Alex Jones analysis on what the signal gate thing he thinks really was because we got to play Alex. I'll see what he thinks about it. I'm not saying Alex Jones is always right. I'm just saying I'm very curious to hear what Alex Jones says. It's like 99.5% of the time. Well, I don't know. Chad, I'm just saying he made one big F up in his career and that just made people hate him.

Yeah. But now even people are trying to say that he's a paid actor now. He has been compromised. He is on the team of this or this or this. And we're hearing very similar stories about Ian Carroll. I say our old friend Ian Carroll, because. Well, Ian came on our podcast a lot of times. I enjoyed having him on there.

Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know whatever happened with Ian with us, but we don't really talk to Ian anymore. I mean, maybe he just got too big. He's probably too big and too busy. And that's possible. But Ian's been getting a lot of backlash, a lot of hell recently, because he had published a video, a new recent video where he talks about the potential blackmail that is coming for RFK. So this is not just P. Heggseth, Mike Waltz.

you know, oh my God, why cannot, J.D. Vance, you know, basically Marco Rubio, everybody that was involved in this chat. It's like they're trying to take down everyone.

And now you had Ian Carroll come out ahead of the curve, supposedly, saying that there is a sex scandal that is about to happen with RFK to try to take him down. Now, what Ian Carroll's thing is,

supposedly, and I keep saying supposedly, because there's a reason I'm saying that. The reason why Ian Carroll came out with this, I guess Candace Owens also has talked about this recently, is that they're going to use this sex scandal to try to take RFK down and the Maha movement, which is, you know, the movement of getting the dyes and the chemicals and all the bad shit out of our food, take down the vaccine companies as far as what they're actually putting into our shit. Recently also, by the way, which we may do an entire episode on this, RFK has recently talked about banning. geoengineering in our skies. We're talking about Kim Trails. There's 27 states right now that are signing up for this.

So what once was a conspiracy theory as far as Kim Trails? Not so much because now you have the health secretary, RFK, talking about we want the states to ban this shit. We want the states to be able to do this. Now, I don't think it's a state issue. I think this is a national issue. I think you've got to figure out who the hell is really responsible for Kim Trails or geoengineering behind the scenes.

You almost need a Doge movement just for that alone. But isn't it just crazy that we have to have a movement for this? And just two, three years ago, anybody that said anything about Kim Trails had a tin foil hat on? Yeah. Well, I'll be honest with you. I mean, 100%. I never thought. And, you know, I've been in and around aviation for years since I was probably 18, I guess, right?

And so I never, ever thought the Kim Tril narrative was true. I just didn't believe it. Now, there were things that I could potentially point to as far as Kim Trails, which I'm going to save for when we talk about this new RFK thing that has recently come out for a future episode on that. But I just never believed in Kim Trails. I always thought everybody that was talking about Kim Trails were crazy. And it's just like, it's interesting. The more that you actually research, the more that you know, the more you dig, the more you're going to come closer to the truth. Now, there's definitely some things out there that people will dig and they'll go down the wrong.

rabbit holes and they will come up with some crazy shit that likely does not exist. And there are definitely also people out there that believes everything is a conspiracy, including birds, like all the birds are, you know, drones. Which keeping in mind, by now, we might start having, you know, bird drones. Well, I'm going to tell you, I have seen a bird live. When we were driving down a certain road, Chad, and it looked like it was stuck in time. I'm not even kidding. I think you might have pointed it out to me

and it was just like stuck. Yeah, but I think that's like glitching or something. No, I think it was just literally it was facing a headwind. So where it was stuck in place from a headwind. You can do that with an airplane as well. Yeah, if you're in like a strong headwind, you're going to look like you're sitting in place.

But nonetheless, I do want to play this Alex Jones clip to see what he thinks about Signalgate. And we're going to comment on this. Listen. Then we've got the ongoing signal. war plan BS leak and all the ridiculous garbage surrounding that. And as I said, the day this broke, when I saw Jeff Goldberg in the Atlantic, I mean, that guy as much as told me he was a globalist spy, came here and visited me like 13 years ago.

I've talked about him forever. Notice he's never come out and said it's not true. By the way, invite him on the show. Call him up. Say he was coming here for an interview. It wasn't an interview. He didn't want to interview me. He goes, no, I'm not really here to interview you.

We just want to know the Obama administration wants to know if you're dangerous and who you're you work for. I'm not going to tell the whole story again, but I laid all that out. And now, what did I say the day it broke, days and days and days ago? What did I say? I mean, that, that story broke and the next day they were having their show hearings, less than 24 hours later. I said, look for Vault 7 type CIA or other intelligence hacking technology,

getting in and adding Jeff Goldberg into the text. even if he was already in the contacts, he could have been added to it to get it, and it spoofed you don't know. And I warned of this, them making it look like there's leaks out of the Trump administration because they kept saying when they were doing the compromations of Gabbard and Hegseth and Waltz and all them,

they don't have huge intelligence backgrounds. They don't know how to do it. They're going to release sensitive information. They're telling you what they're going to do. And they have a long history of it. And I got to pause here for a second. You have to understand that this deep state that has been against Trump for years now, we're talking about at least eight years since he had announced that he was going to run for president.

This deep state has been coordinating with Hillary Clinton and the real deep state, I guess, puppet masters in some ways. And these are low level. I even believe Hillary Clinton, Obama, all of them are low level puppet masters. I mean, you might think of Hillary Clinton or Obama or whoever as the high. level puppet masters. No, they're not. They're literally just pawns in the system and they are given power, money, and influence to make themselves feel like they are the, you know, supreme control members. Yeah. But they're not. They are not the control system. They are not the hierarchy of the puppet masters of the New World Order and the globalist. They are definitely just not that.

You know, you would think of them if you, and I hate to go back to this again, but if you read the book of Enick and you hear how the watchers were like the hierarchy, which is like the fallen angels. These were the ones that were non-human that came down and then had sex with the women. And then they created Nephlem and those Nephlem felt like they were almighty and powerful up until they saw who their powerful was, which is the watchers. And then even as the Nephlem started to have offspring of the, you know, themselves, those people also got into a hierarchy structure. and they felt like they were the almighty and powerful, but there's always a power of structure. And there's always typically someone more powerful than you and including whoever is in this world right now that thinks they are the ones that are calling the shots and running the world.

The reality still is that God exists and they are still done. They're doomed. You're not going to win the war. You're not going to win. You may win the battle, but you're not going to win the war. And the Bible talks about that many, many times. And so you have these people like Hillary Clinton and Obama and all these other pieces of shit that are within our government.

It's not just on the Democrat side. It's on all sides. You'll have these people that feel like that they are, you know, destined to, you know, control the system and control the way things work. But in the end, God is going to show these people that who actually controls the way this works. Let's listen to some more of Alex Jones craziness that I'm talking right now. Enough.

Why, somehow online is all their pass codes to all their internet devices and signal. Oh, the plausible liability when it comes out that they're being spoofed, they're being set up. People keep saying, oh, the police or the swanning, they need to get the phone number who called and go arrest them.

They spoof your number off another spoof number, off another spoof numbers, sometimes 20, 30 hops from another country out of government and globalist intelligence servers and the police, and even the NSA would have trouble finding out. So this is how this is done. And here it is in the news.

Private contact info, passwords to their devices of Trump's top security officials, including Mike Waltz, Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Higg said reportedly found online via hack data and search engines. Oh, first thing Biden did four years ago when he got in by still in the election was, everyone will use signal. There you go. Wow.

I didn't even like think about that until Alex Jones said that. Well, obviously if this Jeffrey Goldberg was in on the signal group, he knows all their numbers. Well, yeah, well, it's not even,

yeah, it's not even just that. Yeah, you're 100% right. And you could do it that way. But also, if you have direct passwords to apps or whatever it is, you could then utilize that information, even if you had an old password that someone has changed it,

or, I mean, and I'll tell you guys this right now. There are scammers out there on the internet today that are extremely good. That's why I always encourage everyone to be extremely careful with how you protect your data, whether it is, you know, if you're on Google Chrome and or you're on your phone and it says, hey, do you want to save this password for this thing? Well, I know. I know someone that and I know someone very close to me that literally just lost 250 grand because he saved all of his password. passwords and his little Google Chrome shit.

Oh my God. I got to go delete that stuff right now. And then someone hacked the Chrome. All you got to do at that point is you got to figure out a way to hack the actual system. And once you can hack the system that shows all your passwords, that's not very hard. And they're doing it on a daily basis now. And this is regular people. But they're also doing it on a much higher level.

And including what Alex Jones just says here to where these swatting calls, you know, people think that, oh, you just got to go find their number. even if they're okay now likely if there was a kid in a in a basement that used a text messaging app or something like that to where they created this number on their phone to go and do a swatting call right so a number that's not theirs but they just randomly create it now 10 years ago likely our law enforcement would not have been able to track that but today absolutely because there's been so many laws that have come out for these messaging apps and all these text apps and whatever to where they have to be able to download the data of what that device that is being used to access that app.

You know, it'll bring you back to that. But are these swatting calls, these people that make the calls, are they making their number fake? Like it is the house phone or the cell phone or the people that live there. Well, they can. They can do that. I think that's what's happening. Yeah, they can do that. They can do all of it.

They can do it to where when it calls 911 and it says, you know, 911, if you call a phone number, like even if we called right now from our cell phone or whatever, you know, it'll say that it's coming from this address or so on and so forth. But, and so most of the time, law enforcement can access that information. If you're using a text app or whatever, they can access back in, back in on that side. But when it comes from other countries and, and. Like Nigeria. Or whoever.

But when it comes from governments in particular and all this stuff and it starts doing that, that's where it becomes. a weird deal. It's safe. It's the best. And all these reporters and all these even former intel people are like, do you use signal? It's the only secure thing. And I'm like, yeah, right.

There's nothing secure unless you're in a field or a cave talking to somebody face to face. That's why forever real spies drop things off at the park or the parking garage or the mall. people go in a bathroom and they put it behind the toilet and then somebody else goes in and picks it up. That's why they still use pneumatic tube for French intelligence and British intelligence. You know, like when you go to the bank and it shoots your checkover, comes back with your deposit slip or whatever,

that's how it's done. So if anything was amateur, it's that they were using, this, but Hexeth wasn't amateur. There's no targets, there's no specifics, that's not battle plans. And it's right as the planes are launched and it's happening. And still, they shouldn't be using that. Get off of it.

Use a telephone. Use a different landline. Have your assistance with 20 burner phones from Walmart, randomly bought. Send the secretary to random, stores, buy those, and then each time you make these phone calls, the phones cost like 30 bucks apiece, you throw them in the trash. You're going to use a telephone because then they don't have time to get the databases track at all, but they really can't.

So don't use telephones. Good God. Everything's run through the big telecom NSA snoopers. The telecoms are the NSA. say. If you really want to communicate with people, wirelessly, you use shortwave still. My uncle was sending out the main secret communicates for a lot of the operations in Iran-Contra. He was the literally world champion at one point, Morse Coder. And even in the 80s, they were sending stuff to the Pentagon of the White House on Morse Code. And it wasn't because they didn't have sat phones, didn't have telephones. No, no.

Morse code over shortwave because they can sit there and have it agreed upon channels but you're going to use this day, that day, they have all sorts of codes that go into it. They use ancient George Washington style codes, yes, Masonic codes. And that's still how you really do it. And whenever they're going to launch an attack, they should all be in the bubble at the Pentagon or under the bunker at the White House on all those secured systems that are only wired directly to the Pentagon

and back and forth. And still those have got snoopers on them. And I want to point out something that he's talking about here, which is very true. Shortwave radio and other devices also scrambled frequencies to where you designate a specific frequency for a specific meeting and a specific day. You do that all in writing.

You hand it to the. that whoever your cabinet team members are and you say, hey, here's our meeting. This is when we're talking. We're talking for no longer than this amount of time. And once that's done, we'll never use that frequency again. We go to another one. These are all. And you can also secure some of these frequencies, which I would love to actually get

some of these radio operators on a podcast episode sometime. Right. We go further into detail about this. But this just goes to show that even with the Trump administration and the National Security Advisor and, the Secretary of Defense and all this stuff, if you don't think the government can listen to what the hell you're doing, and yet they're going to signal to try to think that they're encrypted?

Like, what does that even mean? I know. It's so crazy. But this is one thing we got to keep in mind, too. And this is going under the rug that is so important. This mission was successful. Yeah, for sure. It worked.

Everything was what was planned. Everything opened up. Everything is great. Nobody got harmed. So we got to remember this, too. It was a successful mission. Yes, there was an oops there. And they need to fix that.

And they need to investigate the oops. But it was successful. And then I just want to point out one thing. And I don't know if you guys agree with me, but I cannot stand Alex Jones's like noise gate thing. How it just stops. Yes. It drives me insane when we're listening. Yeah, it just stops.

Now, we've had noise gates on our mics before. It's like you just, it's like you don't exist anymore for a minute and then you come back. Yeah, very strange. We do have a little bit of a noise gate on here, but it's not as, it's not as harsh as that. But yeah, I mean, even with this, though, it's almost like that the Trump administration don't even. And just thinking about us, it's like the Trump cabinet members don't even trust any apps that anyone is going to give them from either CIA, FBI or whoever. Well, I don't blame them for that. enough to where they're going to say, we get to go to like signal or something.

Yeah, I know. That's crazy. We cannot trust whatever our CIA guys are going to give us. Hey, here's an app, guys. It's secure. Don't worry about it. You can say whatever you want to. Imagine if you're CIA guys, which you don't know who's who, who the hell is connected

to what. And they're like, hey, here's the app guys. This is the perfect app. Totally secure. No one will ever know anything. Yeah, I would not trust them either. And they're probably like, let's just go signal. Yeah.

I'm saying I agree with you. But also, Trump. has made his own online platform, truth social. If he can make that, he can make something that is more reliable than Signal. Well, of course. But then you even got to wonder, like, well, you know, the people that you hire through this process, are they spies? Are they a part of the CIA?

Are they part of the deep state? Are they part of the global? Are they part of NGOs? You can't trust anybody anymore. I mean, and we used to think about, you know, the Cold War and all that stuff to where we were constantly going after supposedly communist and we, you know, we had all these spies from Russia and spies from China. We've always dealt with spies from China.

But now it's just not China and Russia to where you have to worry about. You have to worry about spies within your own country. Right. Because your own country is, is, they are not implicated. What is the word? But they are, oh, my God. Anyways, you know the word I'm trying to say. Our own people are implicated in something much greater and much bigger.

than just the United States or America. And that is the New World Order. That is the globalist agenda to destroy America. And I think that it shouldn't come as no surprise when you have a now created Doge organization or part of the government to where they are going after the waste and the fraud and the shit that our politicians are doing and not just politicians, but how they're funding these globalist organizations. and then because of that you have mass protests and you have burning downs of Tesla's and trying to push back these people to the point where they want them to no longer investigate. They want the entire story to be all about Tesla burning and signal and all this stuff. When the craziness that is being uncovered and has been uncovered so far is the massive story,

but no one talks about it anymore because they're all talking about this other shit. I mean, whoever is the puppet masters of information over all this deal is a great marketer for whatever they're marketing for, which is likely globalist, the agenda against Donald Trump and against pro-American against American citizens. I mean, for example, there was a, let's see if I can find this, there was an airplane that left today. I think it was today. Yeah, five hours ago.

And there were a bunch of Democrats. You know where they went? GITMO. A bunch of Democrat senators went to Gitmo to complain about Trump deporting criminal illegal aliens. And they had this photo op at Gitmo saying, I can't believe that they are deporting illegals that are also criminals that are violent criminals. And they literally are posing in front of an airplane. And this is Jack Reed, G. Jan Shaheen Democrat, Gary Peters, Alex Padilla, self-proclaimed independent, Angus King of

Maine. And so they're literally proclaiming the rights and the, I guess, in protest against Trump for foreign terrorists, Rome and our country. I mean, these are the people that we are against. Yeah. And these are huge issues that no one's talking about. No one cares about as far as media goes because they don't want to let you know what's really going on behind closed doors. And that's the problem with media is they're only going to show you what they want to show you. And if they have a big story that they can even make it bigger like the Signal Gate thing, they're going to run it to the ground. Yeah. And you know, I know there was a few people that reached out and said, you know, you guys haven't done a story on Signal because they're Republicans.

Well, I don't think it has anything to do with that. Listen, I will I will say this with the whole Signal deal. if this was a massive F up to where Mike Waltz either intentionally or accidentally included a freaking reporter, especially a reporter that hates Trump and the cabinet and administration as bad as he does, I do think there should be accountability. Obviously, like we thought there should be accountability eight billion times in the Trump Harris administration. But guess what? There was never accountability in anything the Biden Harris administration did.

But Republicans have got to do better than Democrats did. Oh, of course, absolutely. They have to show accountability, and they have to do that to keep the trust of Americans. They have to do it. I agree, 100%. And I think that's where it lies, right? I mean, if there is a conspiracy here, if there is something much greater that Laura Lumer is kind of breaking, or if there is some type of foreign involvement in this, all of those things will hopefully be found out in investigations. I really do hope so.

but either way you can't have someone that is talking about these things and yes although i do agree with alex jones to where it wasn't specifics on all this stuff and sherry you said this before alex did you know it wasn't designated specifics on exactly of what and all that yeah yeah now listen if if this reporter this this atlantic reporter could have got it out to the huthies in time oh he would have done gosh yeah he would have for sure he would have for sure because he would want nothing more than service members to die under Donald Trump. He don't give a shit about the service members whatsoever. I mean, that's what his reports supposedly saying.

Oh, well, we, I can't believe that, you know, there could have been service members dead. Oh, where were you during the Afghanistan pullout? Where were you during, hell, even Benghazi? Where were you during the border crisis? Did you write all these stories against the Biden administration for Lake and Riley or any of the other people that were killed by illegals that entered our country? Right, because he's a Democrat. And he goes against those issues. No, he goes against America.

And that's the reality of this. That's the 100%. And I go back and say this. In my opinion, I think if he would have been able to get this to the Houthis in time to where they would have had advanced warning for this attack, he would have done it. I agree. But he didn't have the location time. He didn't have the exact coordinates of where they're going. They had none of that.

which I'm glad he didn't have that. No, for sure. To be honest. Yeah. Because it was a successful mission. And we got to like remember that. At least it was a successful mission. It was an oops.

And we got to investigate that. Trump has got to investigate that. And if somebody is liable, he's got to hold them accountable. Yes. Yeah. So, you know, anyways, we had to touch on and talk about the Signalgate issue tonight. It is Sunday evening. and we have a lot of great episodes coming up your way.

We've talked a lot about if you guys are, if you guys have not heard our pyramid episodes, we've had a couple of those episodes over the past week. I think they're very, very interesting. There's actually even been some new information come out. We're going to keep following this story and see if they're going to try to bury the pyramids deal or not or whether they're going to actually further investigate. I know a lot of you like listening that type of stuff.

And to be honest, it's kind of been refreshing to not talk about. politics. And so that's why we didn't just jump on signal gate as soon as we, we wanted to. Although, like I say, if there are people that are or should be held accountable, you guys can make your own determination on that. You know, luckily and thankfully, no one died. I don't think necessarily they would ever could have died based on this, this messaging chain. But either way, you know, if you're going to be, if it was just strictly Mike,

this was strictly Mike Walt's fault. And this was all kind of just some stupidity thing that he did because he is careless enough to have a freaking Atlantic journalist, which I don't even know why you'd have him in your contacts to begin with. Exactly. And I don't know if he does or not. And that's a great question to ask. A better question is ask is what is his deputy up to? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's the other thing. And so will there be fallout from this? Will there be investigations? Will there be? and I'm talking about non-investigation about a Democrats because they're already doing it. They were waiting on this almost as if they were prepared for it. They've already been talking about.

They had all these stories written up. They've already talked about it in Congress. They've talked about all these things. But at the very least, I 100% think if I'm Trump or his team, I'm investigating exactly what happened here. And when I do find out exactly what happened here, I think accountability-wise, you have to tell the American people what happened, how it happened, and why. Yeah. And be truthful. And I want to ask you, do you think to any part of you, do you think it was Pete Hicketts's fault that any of this happened?

No, I don't think so. Because that's who, like you said, again, they were going after. And I think it goes back to the military complex. Yeah. Trying to get rid of them. They want to get rid of the top of the top. Oh, for sure. Because all these, mostly all these people are not going with the mainstream, you know, kind of agenda of the bureaucrats of the, you know, of the military.

industrial complex of the biopharmaceutical complex, at least from what we see so far. Now, we're still going to hold them accountable. And there are definitely things that I think that in some ways that we could do, we could be doing better. Yeah, well, I'm just going to tell you the truth. When I first heard the story, I'm like, oh, gosh, Pete, you made a huge mistake. You got to go. But it wasn't Pete.

But it wasn't Pete. And when we started investigating and furthered our investigation and finding out going down these rabbit holes, who could be responsible? somebody's got to go if it is an accident or an oops. Yeah, I would think that would be Mike Waltz 100%. And if that is the conclusion. But listen, this is going to be up to Trump to decide this. It's going to be up for him and his team to kind of decide what is the best course and best measure for this.

You know, does Trump or, you know, I guess people around him believe that this is a massive F up enough to, you know, fire Mike Waltz as a national security advisor? I don't know. Well, I think it's enough that you have to do something again to make sure the American people keep trusting you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. And there's a lot to talk about there. There's actually a Trump story out there right now that I'm not sure that we'll get to or not. And it's not necessarily a great one for Trump because I definitely have my own opinions on this.

And we may or may not get to that at some point in time in this next week. I'm going to see how the story plays out. But we'll just leave it at that for now. We're not going to touch on it at the moment. But we got a lot of great episodes for you guys. Go follow us on our social media. We love each and every one of you. We're just trying to figure this shit out as we go, man.

And we're all still in the same bucket of the earth. And we have leaders that supposedly lead us. And you vote for one. You vote for the other. But what we want is truth. What we want is accountability. And we just want what's the best for the people, no matter who it is. But until next time, guys, we love you.

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