Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Skinwalker Ranch UFO Hotbed Conspiracy Podcast

Episode Date: May 2, 2021

On tonights podcast we talk about Skinwalker Ranch, The UFO Hotbed that has the government and scientist baffled. Why are aliens visiting this place in utah? Plus our theory.

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So anyways, I'm going to check and make sure we don't sound like robots because we've had some issues with that. So while he's checking, welcome to tonight's podcast. This is Investigate Earth podcast. I am your host, Sherry. And along with me is my beautiful husband, Chad. Chad, say hello. What is up?

Dang, man. Yeah, I think I'm going to let you do that every time. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Maybe I should say handsome. Handsome husband. It's handsome. It's handsome.

My handsome failure. My handsome failure. Oh, gosh. Maybe we shouldn't do that. All right, guys. So we are here with you tonight on a Sunday night. and it's you know we had to do a podcast we talked about this in the last in the last episode with Ron James and that was a great podcast man I loved having Ron on it was really cool to kind of

hear his side this guy has been in you know the TV video production director side of of all kinds of stuff I mean if you look up Travis Walton which is the Fire in the Sky movie and then his documentary. Ron did a lot with that. Ron has done so much in the industry. So we really enjoyed having him on. It's always one of those things that, you know, after the fact, you kind of think about other things. I was like, well, man, we should have asked him this.

I've thought about things like that. It's like, I wish I would have asked him this, because I wanted to know what his opinion on this is. But either way. So tonight we're talking about Skin Walker Ranch. No, Skinwalker Ranch, it became a hotbed of paranormal slash UFO activity. I remember, you know, when I was probably, I don't know, I mean, even when I was probably 18, 17 years old, 20, I remember there were news reports coming out about this ranch or this place that were having these cow mutilations. And, you know, you would hear this and it's like, what the hell is a cow mutilation?

But then you would hear of these of these innocences where these cows were basically on this ranch, this area of Utah. and they were having their blood completely drained from their bodies. They were turning up dead, and they were having their blood completely drained from their bodies. And these things were happening quite often, but it was particularly happening at Skin Walker Ranch. Now, I didn't know until the history channel, or the history channel actually came out with the show, The Secret of Skin Walker Ranch, which is out on, you know, if you have Discovery Plus or any of that stuff, you can go check it out on there. But if you don't have Discovery Plus, you can actually go to History Plus, you can actually go to

History Channel.com, I believe, or whatever the History Channel website is. And they have free episodes there. So you can actually watch all of those on History Channel. But so there's just been persistent reports of UFOs, crop circles, cattle mutilations, and some kind of shapeshifting creatures impervious to bullets. And which is pretty insane. Some have called it supernatural. Others deemed as cursed.

Yeah, because it was a cursed. and way back when there was the two like Indian tribes fighting against each other. Remember the Navajos and the U-I? The U-I U-U-O-Tuns? Yeah. But yeah, I mean, so, you know, and then he, the guy that actually, I guess, originally had it Terry Sherman, he got spooked by all the happenings on his ranch. And this was the guy in the 1990s.

Yeah. The Sherman's. Yeah, and it was only after 18 months after moving his family of four to the property that's known as Skinwalker Ranch, he sold the 512 acre parcel after only 18 months of being there. And he was actually there not to like experience. No, he was. He was a farmer and he had a ranch and he had all these cattle and he didn't, he had no

idea of what was going on when he bought the ranch. And within 18 months, they're like, nope, we're out of here. Yeah, so Terry Sherman, just to kind of bring you guys up to speed on what Skinwalker Ranch is, if none of you have know anything about that. Skinwalker Ranch is a place that has had incredible UFO slash paranormal slash whatever you want to call it activity over so, so many years. And so the Shermans are, I guess from this point where we're at right now in 2021, I believe the Sherman's were the last like normal.

I want to say this the right way, but Sherman's were the last normal people to own the property. Not people that were like experimenting. Yeah, experimented with the property. They were just actually living there and raising their cattle. Yeah. You know,

they weren't, they didn't realize what was going on. No. In this place. And after all this stuff was happening to them, they like, yep, it's for sale. Yeah, we're out.

Yeah. We're out of here. Yeah. So he and, so Terry Sherman and his wife, Gwen, they actually shared their experiences with a local reporter in 1996. And they had said that they had seen

mysterious crop circles. They also said that UFOs and some kind of systematic and repeated mutilation of their cattle in an oddly surgical and bloodless manner. Within three months of the story's publication, Las Vegas real estate magnet and UFO enthusiast, Robert Bigelow, bought the property for $200,000. That's it. Yeah. Oh, my God, I would buy that. How amazing would that be? Yeah, because the crazy thing is...

I would have bought it. Yeah, absolutely. It's 500 and 12 acres for 200,000. So that tells you how anxious they were going to get rid of this property, right? Yeah, they were done. They're out. Yeah, that's called a motivated seller in real estate. Yeah, it's like, nope.

Our cows are getting mutilated. All this crazy shit's happening. I didn't realize it was only 200,000 he bought that for. That's crazy. I didn't either. But yeah, so under the name, the National Institute for Discovery Science, Bigelow actually set up around the clock surveillance of the ranch, hoping to get to the bottom of the paranormal claims.

and so but while the surveyor yielded a book hunt for the Skinwalker science confronts the unexplained at a remote ranch in Utah in which several of the researchers claimed to have seen paranormal activities they were unable to actually capture any meaningful physical evidence supporting the Sherman's

incredible stories. So then the ranch was resold to Adamatium real estate which has since applied to trademark the name Skinwalker Ranch and so now who owns the ranch

ranch is this real estate mogul and I guess investigator I guess is that how he's that this guy owns the ranch now and this is actually what the show is about and all this so the hunt for the skin walker odd in that particular book and all the stuff odd objects have been first spotted overhead since the first European explorers arrived in 1776 and they described what to be strange fireball is appearing over his campfire in L. Ray. And before the Europeans, of course, indigenous people occupied the Uinta, Uinta. Basin?

Yeah. Uinta? Yeah. It's Unita, I think. Unita? Yeah. That's right. Uinta.

Today's Skinwalker Ranch abuts the Unita and Oray Indian Reservation of the Ute Tribe. But what's strange about that is that this was the tribe or whatever, right? Yeah. I don't know. I just lost my thought. Anyways, what I'm saying is that, sorry, there were tribes living there, obviously, before, you know, American settlers. And when first American settlers came in, they put a, what is it called? Oh, yeah, they put a curse.

Why can't think tonight? Because you're stressing out. No, it wasn't stressing out. I just cannot think. Yeah, they put a curse on the land. They duitas. Yeah, the Utes. I believe it was the Uts.

And that whole area is just, you know, it's a, you know, if you look at the actual Skinwalker Ranch property, 512 acres, you have basically alien or alien, alien reservations. Yeah. You have Indian reservations all around it. Oh, I know what I was going to say. The skin walker, the name Skinwalker comes from the, what, whatever curse they put on this land was skin walkers. And these were like supposedly. Things that took shapes of other things. Yeah.

Like gigantic wolves or giant. gigantic, like, animals that would demolish other things. Like, this was the curse on the land. And, you know, that's funny you say that, because not everything the Sherman saw on their ranch was Skybourne, UFO things. They also said they saw mysterious large animals, most notably a wolf three times a size of a normal wolf that Terry Sherman shot at close range multiple times with a rifle to seemingly no effect. So this guy, I believe it was it a cow that he had there, if I'm not mistaken or something. But Terry had had a cow out in his ranch that was being attacked. If I'm not mistaken, it was a cow.

You can correct me if I'm wrong. But anyways, he had this cow or whatever. This thing was being attacked by this wolf-like creature that was three to four times a size of a normal wolf. And by the way, you know, ranchers, they know what wolves are. They know what coyotes are. You know, and especially when you're out in Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, all that stuff. If you're a rancher, you know, I believe I read that the Sherman's, that wasn't their first ranch. I mean, they had had many other ranches, and then they had, you know, went out to what they thought to be the perfect ranch in Skinwalker Ranch, what is now called the Skinwalker Ranch or what used to be called Sherman Ranch.

But so this creature, this wolf-like thing was attacking, I believe. one of their cows. And so he had noticed that they were attacking the cow outside of, you know, outside of his window. And he had seen the cows weren't far, you know, far away from where the actual property is. Yeah, the homestead. And so he had went out there with a large caliber rifle and shot this thing three to four times. And the thing still wasn't letting go. It was like it had no effect on this particular animal.

Almost like it was like not a real animal. Like it was something else. Yeah, it was strange. But it's hard to like connect that with. UFOs and aliens like these skinwalkers, right? Yeah. Coming out of nowhere. And I think it goes back to the curse that the Navajo, no, the Utes, I think, put on the ranch.

Yeah. Well, and then, you know, in 1997, this is when Bigelow owned it after the Sherman's. It was March 12, 1997. And it was a biochemist. Colm Keller was working with Bigelow's National Institute for Discovery Science. And he claimed to see a large humanoid. type creature spying on the research team from a tree. As he detailed in the hunt for the skin walker,

the creature was approximately 50 yards away, watching the team safely from a tree perch for about 20 feet off the ground. The large creature that lay motionless almost casually in the trees, said Keller. The only indication of the beast's presence was the penetrating yellow light of the unblinking eye as they stared back into the light. After Keller fired it the creature with a rifle, it disappeared. It was then that I saw it. A single obvious oval track about six inches in diameter embedded deeply in the path of snow.

It looked unusual. A single large print in the snow was two sharp claws protruding from the rear of the mark going a couple of inches deeper. It almost looked like a bird of prey, maybe a raptor print, but huge and from the depth of the print from a very heavy creature. But they said it was a humanoid-looking creature? Yeah, it was like, it looked like a human type deal. More human than animal, I guess. Yeah. Wow.

That's, I mean, that's just crazy to me. Yeah. So, I mean, and the thing is, is that all this stuff, you know, the crazy thing is, so you have the Sherman's. Let's talk about this briefly, but you have the Sherman's that own the property, I guess, when it first started getting popular. But this property, you know, in the new show, the secret of the Skinwalker Ranch, which is on History Channel, and they're not. sponsoring us, by the way. It sounds like they are. But, yeah, on this show, they actually brought

an Indian from a local tribe to the land, and they wanted to, number one, know what he knew about the land, and number one, or number two, you know, get his thoughts on what it was or what it could be, or so on

and so forth. Now, keep in mind, guys, the Skinwalker Ranch, you know, this is not, this show is not, and this is one of the things we ask Ron, James, with Mufon, One of the things we asked Ron, we ask him about what his thoughts are or were on the show. Right. And he said that he thinks this is very possible to be one of the most groundbreaking scientific experiments,

especially as far as UFOs in contact that we might have or ever have in a long time. But anyways, my point is the people they have at the ranch now are brilliant. Incredibly smart. Some of them have six to eight degrees in astrophysics. and I mean, they're literally rocket scientists, but they're smarter than rocket scientists because they have all these other crazy degrees. All of these people are scientists, except for a couple.

There's a security guy, and then there's a, like, a farm manager. Yeah, they have all these people. But they're doing all these actual scientific studies on the ranch about, like, you know, what is really going on there. And so Bigelow, one of the things they've said on the show is when Bigelow had it.

Now Bigelow is, and I find this interesting, and Bigelow was a real estate guy too. Right. About the time that he bought the Skinwalker Ranch before the guy that owns it now, which I can't remember his name. And so what I find interesting is Bigelow now has a massive company that is invested in space exploration. He's actually building rocket type things.

He's got an aerospace company. This dude went from a real estate mogul. to then buying Skinwalker Ranch and now he has a you know an aerospace company that they're building spaceships to fly in the space and the thing is so Bigelow

when he owned the property one of the things they say on the show and this this can be verified Bigelow and his team worked with very closely with the government yeah and government entities and the scientists and all the people at Skinwalker Ranch now and in the show show say without question, Bigelow and everything that they found out or didn't find out at Skinwalker Ranch,

absolutely unequivocally, is secret. Yeah, and they cannot. They cannot. Why can't? I guess because they were working with the government is why they can't. I don't know. Everything is classified now. Everything that they studied, everything they found out, we have no idea about like their results of any of their experiments or studies or anything.

because they were working with the government. Exactly. And I think that's the difference with this team now versus Bigelow's team is they're not working with the government. But it's just funny that I think the government's spying on them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now in the show it seems like they are. Yeah.

They see like odd things or like real life like helicopters, I guess, that are spying on them to see what they're learning. Maybe they don't want them to know. I don't know. It's weird. Okay. So here's the thing. So obviously we're talking about the Skinwalker Ranch And we don't want to go crazy deep into anything that

I mean, and this is what I was talking to Sherry about before the show I was like I don't want to give away the show that for those that have not watched it I mean, you know what I'm saying? Even though it's not like we're sponsored or something, but I still want you guys to watch it. And even no matter what we say tonight on this podcast, you have to go watch it because there's nothing we can say that will that would justify you not watch it. Right. We binge watch this season in three days.

Yes, it's really good. Because once you start watching it, you cannot stop. And the reason it's really good is because I believe it's valid. I believe it's not made up whatsoever, 100%. Now, keep in mind, as an editor, someone that does video stuff, this is something I wish I would have asked Ron. But like, you know, some of the shots that, like, all these big television networks get is like they want to get everybody's reaction.

And so when they do that, it looks almost like it's planned. Yeah, but it's not. They're just like, all right, they got, even if they have four cameras, they're going to cut to those reactions. And so, but one of the things about, like, the show is that they're experiencing a lot of crazy stuff. A Skinwalker Ranch. Within just a few months. In the beginning of the show, they don't have animals towards the end of the first season they do.

But one of the things that really, really sticks out in the show as far as, like, okay, extraterrestrial, whatever, just the first kind of type of abnormalities is radiation. They get tons of radiation spikes on the property. There was a guy on this show that actually had to go to the hospital. This was actually before the show, before they ever did the show, when he was managing out there, he was digging in on the property, and there was something to happen to him that was... And he got hit directly.

Yeah, directly by some kind of radiation. Yeah, and so this guy, ended up having to go to hospital. Yeah, he was in the ICU. Yeah, his scalp was... He was about to die. Yeah, his scalp was detaching from his skull, and he had a fluid in his brain

and all there, or not, you know, I don't know if it's in his brain, but on his head. Yeah. That was what was detaching the two parts. Yeah. And so now in the show, you know, as we've watched the episodes, it's crazy.

I mean, it's almost undeniable. This guy, I think, and Chad and I were talking about this last night. Some people are more, I know when I, I always mess up this word. Subceptible. Yeah.

Subceptible. To things more than other people are, right? Mm-hmm. Like some of us feel more. Some of us see more. Some of us, you know, just have that ability to, I don't know if it's an ability, but we're just, we. You're more susceptible. I mean, it's similar to somebody being more susceptible, I guess, to the cold.

Mm-hmm. There are always things that people are more susceptible. There are people that are more susceptible to getting themselves in shit. for whatever reason or getting themselves in drama. Exactly. Or getting themselves in anything. And then there's more people that are more successful to getting themselves in success. Like honestly, like there.

There are people out there that doesn't do half the work of some people that work their ass off. And then they get way more successful. Yeah. And that's true. But I think that comes down to what we were talking about last night. Like it's almost like a law of attraction or some kind of attraction or something. But I'm totally skipping ahead. But we won't go there.

No, no. No, go ahead. I really feel like that guy, the rancher manager guy, he was more like. Subceptible. But why would he be? I wonder. I mean, and the thing is, he's like the least qualified person on this team. But it's happening to him out of anyone else.

And they thought it was because of the digging at first. But I don't think it was a digging. I think it's who he is. Has something to do with it. Do you agree? Yeah, could be. Yeah, it has something to do with him. And even like that.

I mean, okay, here's a good example. Why is COVID more susceptible for people with A blood, they say, than O blood? Like, why do you have a higher chance of dying? I mean, don't take our word for it. Just look it up. But supposedly, you have a higher chance of getting a severe illness in COVID with A blood. Then you do O blood. People are more susceptible for a lot of reasons.

But if we bring this all the way down the nuclear bomb splitting atoms, you know, and I mean, we are made of atoms. Right. And there is things. And we are in energy. and we have an energy inside of us. And I don't necessarily know that the reason why people, for example, and this is a great, like, lead-in,

because we're not done with Skin Walker Ranch, but I think what could be the reason why people, some people are more susceptible to either get abducted. Now, look, I would say, in my opinion, and we've had a survey going on with multiple people, like in a few groups, like, if you got, if you truly believe that you were abducted, by an alien, I want

your story. And we got a ton of responses. Right. Not saying, I can't say one way or the other, which ones are false and which ones are not, right? I believe a lot of people think they get abducted by aliens, whether it be

by dream or by whatever. But you also got to think about a couple other things, because we don't always 100%, we don't 100% know what the reality of what we're even And like what is a dream? Like is that another dimension?

When we dream, is that our brains allowing us to see things? And look, but there's some dreams that just make no sense. It's like, what the hell is this? Like, why am I in prison in this dream? Why am I running from these prisoners in this dream? That makes zero sense. No, but I think some people, like, I think they've been in, you know, in their reality, they've been abducted, maybe in their dreams.

but I think that some people feel like their reality was that they were alive and they were not dreaming and it really happened to them. So the Travis Walton story is a great example. I mean, he had witnesses that were there that when they were on this road. Now Travis Walton, by the way, for those of you don't know, he's the reason they made a Fire in the Sky movie. Ron James, the guy we had on the podcast the last show, you know, he did Ron, or he did Travis's documentary. and actually Travis was at Ron's house yesterday. Crazy. But no, so, but what I'm saying is, is that Travis himself says, and not just Travis, but the people that were with him that night, that this happened, they were logging out in the middle of the forest.

They all saw this thing. They all saw it. And then Travis said he ran towards it because he was wanting to figure out what it was. Yeah, but some people, okay. I would have done the same thing, though. I mean, too. 100%. But some people are like.

Like, what in the hell is that? I'm not going towards that. But other people are like, they're almost gravitated towards things like that. And maybe you have an open their mind. Maybe you have a closed room. I don't know. There's something, though, that gravitates you to those experiences. Yeah.

That has to do with who you are and your soul, I guess. Maybe, yeah. I mean, there was a reason that Travis, is the name Travis? Yeah, I hope I'm saying it's a right name. Okay. But I don't think really, like, listening to his story, like when he was, talking on other Joe Rogan.

Yeah, other podcasts, I don't think they really meant to abduct him. He was just there and I think he just got in their gravity pulling, something, I don't know.

But I don't think they really meant to take him. And I do want to have Travis on the podcast and I'm going to see if Ron can get him on the podcast. But he was so interested like he could not stop himself from going towards it. And I would be the same way.

Yeah. But what we're going? we're talking about is more susceptible. And maybe he is. But, you know, the thing is, at the end of day, there's something to do with energy. There's something to do with all this that has to do with energy. And I don't want to go into Travis Walton's story too much. You can watch the movie.

Even though Travis himself, I believe, says that the movie, fire in the sky, which was a crazy, popular and famous movie. And not only just that, Ron, which he was a producer on, on Travis Walton, Real Story, was a crazy popular documentary.

But one of the things that Ron says, and this is my point to Travis, what he said, because I do believe Travis got abducted. And so does seven other people that were with him that night. He was gone for five days. And half of the people didn't even like him. Yeah, half the people didn't like him. They were wanted for, they were literally murder. Because they thought they murdered him.

But anyways, one of the things he said, though, was that he believes probably 90% of the stories you hear people being abductors is not accurate. I mean, and I get why he says that. But how does he know that? Well, he don't know that. He doesn't know that. Like, I have friends, personal friends that think they, I know, but I, but I, but I, yeah, but see, that I think that's why he probably knows it because, like, it's changed his life forever. Yeah.

That experience. And there's no way it couldn't. And I think people that say, oh, last night I had this thing that I was like, no. Like, I believe if you get abducted by an actual alien and, it's, and it's, and I think people that, you And here's the other thing is like this guy was actively. Or even have a confrontation or like some kind of something with them. Yeah. Well, the Betty and the Betty and Barney and Barney Hill story was another incredibly valid story as far as alien deduction.

But what I'm saying is Travis was leaving a work spot at night with his seven guys. and he was awake alert and whatever he was physically in a situation in the physical world it's not a dream it's not you go to sleep and you think you're abducted it's not when you know something like that but he was physically leaving going to this place seven other people saw it

you almost can't deny that story especially considering they all pass the lie detector test and I think that's why he's saying that like and don't get me wrong I've read I've read a lot of abduction type accounts. I'm not saying that people are lying. I'm just saying that I would say probably there's a lot of people that are either confused or think or dream or whatever that are not necessarily.

No, I could be wrong. But anyway. Okay, but I think too, like since we've really started investigating like alien abductions and then we've also been talking about like natural phenomenons, I guess, or like what's it called anomalies or anomalies yeah you know I think that almost like okay so some people think like okay they've been reached from people from another world like they're passing through or yeah people that have died and not gone to the other place that's like the paranormal what we believe is paranormal yeah and I almost wonder if they're related somehow yeah well

I mean the Skinwalker ranch I mean they don't know if it's paranormal alien or both or or or Or one of the same. And are they the same? Are they different? I don't know. Like, I've never thought about it that way before until my eyes were open from all these experiences. We're hearing about watching, you know, everything. I agree.

So this is one of the conversations that Sherry and I had last night. And I wish that we, I wish that like our setup for the podcast, it was just mobile. It was so mobile. It was awesome. But I wish it was mobile because if our, if our setup for the podcast is like mobile and we, We could have just set it up last night. Now, look, I'll be honest with you. We had some glasses of wine.

But the thing is, is like our point, my point, actually, I kind of somewhat started with an argument. Not an argument. It was not an argument. It was a disagreement. Yeah, planets and stars. We were in the backyard. We have a beautiful, like, I would almost say like a mini arboretum in our backyard. That we created.

We worked our ass off on it last summer. It's awesome. It's beautiful. And we got a ton of plants, trees, all kinds of cool stuff. But anyways, you know, with us being in this, you know, in this podcast realm, and, you know, we always look up, you know, we always look up in the sky. And, you know, when we look up in the sky, we just have conversations about, like, you know, things we think and our theories, right? Right. So there's one thing that, like, scientists, almost all scientific beliefs besides, don't get me wrong, there are.

scientists that have massive telescopes that can look deep in the space. They can do these mathematical equations and they can do all these things, right? And they can base judgments or judgments or they can have hypotheses based on the things they see, right? And so we had started actually talking about, and this has to do with Skin Walker Ranch because, and let me preface what I'm about to say because it's going to blow some of your minds, if you listen to our Bible and UFO podcast, which is like the end times podcast. You listen to End Times. It's biblical. It has to do with the Bible. And we're going to, we're going to switch it up just a little bit tonight. Because, and that's what I want everyone listening

to, to know about us. Yeah, you have to have an open mind and think about things in different ways. When we talk about the Bible, we're not saying that, like, we're never saying anything we're saying is absolute fact. But we have to have theories. We have to have, we have to have, have an open mind. And if you don't have an open mind, you can't have anything. Right. So last night, we were, we were sitting there and looking at the stars and we were looking in all the beautiful stars in the night. We were looking at Ursula Major. Yeah, we had a fire. Because you have to admit, Chad, that we, that's how our argument started. Those are all stars. Yeah, but you said, no, some of them are playing it. I'm like, there is no way. But I didn't say

that. I said that not everything you see in the night sky is a star. Yeah, I guess I kind of disagreed with you. Yeah, because you didn't understand what I was saying. But anyways, I don't believe everything is it. So, so anyways, we started on this subject. Now, go back to Skinwalker Ranch a minute. And this is what I'm saying. We're going to have a little life after death conversation

because there's one thing I've talked to my mom about, my brother about, and everybody else. And I said, you know, I've talked about this is 180-day report that's coming out from that's supposed to be given to Congress. You know, if the government proves without a shadow of a doubt, in most people's minds that we are not alone, then we have some serious conversations to be had. I believe that there's, you know, say this report comes out,

and it, without a doubt, proves the existence of alien life, that we say that this report comes out and they say, we have UFOs on satellite. And by the way, one of the guys came out recently and said, because the government started saying... I believe it was John Ratcliffe. Ratcliffe, yeah. But some people are starting to blame the government

because the people that don't believe in aliens or UFOs, they're automatically saying that, you know, this is the biggest intelligence failure of our time because of... Foreign overseas. Yeah, because they, you know, if these things flying over us at brickneck speeds of light speeds and not making any sign booms

and all this stuff, if that's the way it is, then it's a big intelligence failure of our time. And so John Ratcliffe and a couple other people have come out and said, look, I don't believe it's an intelligence failure. I believe that we're going to be able to say, you know, without a doubt almost, that, hey, we didn't just track these things on radar. We tracked them on satellite. Literally, that's the one key comment that they said was we have seen these things

and track them on satellite. and that means that these guys have to know where these things are coming from. So if you're, even if it was, and this is my point, even if it was a foreign adversary, if it was China or Russia that somehow got this technology, our satellites would be able to see, number one, where they're coming from and where they're going, especially satellite technology.

That's one of the things in aviation that is a big detriment to aviation, is countries are getting satellite radar basically. And so the old stealth capabilities of fighter jets, like the stealth bomber and all that stuff, they're not as efficient anymore because there are countries that are tracking anything on our planet by satellite. And so one of the things that come out was this is a satellite. You know, hey, we're tracking this up on satellite.

So anyways, let's get in. But like your point was the other night, like last night, if we've been tracking them and we thought there are foreign adversies then we've already, we probably would have already been screwed. Probably. But even if we wouldn't have been.

So you think that all these times have seen all these UFOs? Yeah, I believe if we thought it was a foreign adversary, if we thought it was China or Russia, there's no way in hell that all these leaks and all this stuff coming out that we think it's UFOs and there are people going on

CNN. The biggest blowout to our government. Yeah. I mean, there are our ex-military leaders and even current people, you know, current people in the government going on these major news channels saying that this could very well be extraterrestrial. That is the last thing America would want to do if you even consider this could be a foreign adversary. And the reason I say that is because that is dangerous. What is dangerous?

Because if Russia and China is like, look at these fools. Look at these fools on TV talking about their UFOs. We're about to blow them the hell up. But, I mean, that could be dangerous. But then again, the other could be dangerous too. We don't know why they're like here. We don't know if they're friendly. Yeah, we don't.

You're right. So that, I mean, that could be a danger too. Could be. We don't know. But I think that since they've been here and they've been seeing us through time, through time, and they've not done anything to, like, hurt our system. society, I guess, or her, you know, our earth in any way. They've not, like, put on a war. Yeah. Yeah. I feel pretty confident that they're not like a enemy to us.

Yeah, probably not. They probably feel like we're more of an enemy to them. Yeah, the way that we, you know, we've talked about that before that we all. With Travis Walton. We all fight and don't get on. So this is going to blow your mind a little bit and like, I mean, I'm just going to preface this with us. But really, this is correct. You have to really open your mind. This is Chad's scientific theory. It is. I don't want to, I want to put this on record tonight because actually I asked tonight, I was like,

should we do a separate podcast about this theory that we talked about last night separately? Or should we do just, we'll name it Skinwalker Ranch. Maybe we'll go back on this on another separate podcast. But anyways, so last night, we were talking about energy in the universe and all these things, right? Now, if you look at Skin Walker Ranch, which I'm glad we're going to name the Skinwalker Ranch because I don't know I think Skinwalker Ranch could teach us more about life and life after death than we even realize

and I know that the guys out there that are really busting their ass to investigate Skinwalker Ranch and everything that's going on there and I highly recommend you guys go watch this show I would say that their scientific experiment is trying to figure out what it is

and why it's there okay what is it and why it's there and where is it coming from? Yeah, I believe they, I believe 100% like even on the show in the first season, that's why you should watch it, is that they almost have proved it's alien, in my opinion. I mean, would you say so? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And I mean, like scientifically.

Yeah, I think they've proved it. I think there's even the most credible video we've ever seen on a show, you know, and they do have cameras freaking everywhere. And it just seems like the more they mess with them or the more they do, experiments, the more this interacts with them. But the one thing, yeah, the one thing, though, that is, and I'm not going to go into detail, but this had me thinking, we were looking at the universe last night, and then I started looking at Skinwalker Ranch. Skinwalker Ranch, every time an incident happens there, anytime any abnormal, crazy

thing happens, which is a lot, there's high levels of radiation, there's high levels of microwaves, not microwaves like you cook and freaking pizza in or not pizza. I don't know how to hell with anybody who cook pizza in a microwave. or you're heating up pizza in the microwave. But, yeah, it's that microwaves are a radiation wave, basically. It's like the gamma waves. Are they any of those waves? Yeah, it's the waves we can't see, but we know they're there.

Yeah, but it's harmful to us as well. Right. But it's a form of energy. That is all a form of energy, no matter how we look at it. Now, the same way you look at this, when someone dies, they have proven that the moment someone dies, I don't know how many ounces you weigh less, but you do. It was like four ounces or something. I think so.

It's very minute. Yeah, but still. Yeah. I mean, that's like, like the immediate time you die, when your heart starts pumping, stops pumping, you weigh ounces less. So that would have to account for the soul. Many people leave that's the soul, which, which by the way, I believe the soul was an energy. Now, you look at these aliens.

But you think about this, any sun in the universe, too. Like, you think about, like, just think about our solar system for a minute. Our sun is energy, right? And the planets around. It's a gas, but I consider a gas and energy. Yeah, but the planets... Because it does emit radiation. The planets are real matter for the most part, except for like Neptune and Uranus or whatever.

Yeah. They're not so much matter. But there are planets that are going around the sun, which is energy and causing radiation and gravity pull in some kind of fashion, right? Yeah. But even the gas planets, for example, they call them mostly gas planets, which means I think there is a matter side to them. I don't think the sun has matter at all. No, I think it's just a violent storm of radiation. It's just a violent storm or radiation.

It does not have matter. Yeah. Like the reason that you go out and at the pool and you get sunburnt is, I mean, it's UV rays. Yeah, it's a direct consequence. But it is a radiation wave almost. And if you really think about it, an actual burn is a real physical thing that happens from a energy. It isn't energy. Exactly.

It is an energy. So I think we have to go from that perspective down to what you're saying. I'm just saying the universe is humongous. There's all kinds of, and this is the way we were kind of talking about last night. There's energies and there's things that are matter. Yeah. And the things that are matter. Okay, it's just like the sun.

Well, matter are planets or. or any kind of planet. Yeah, but the sun provides like the sunlight to the planets. And that's what the planets light up from is the sun's energy, right? Yeah. The plants can't light up by themselves. Yeah. They're reflecting the light of the sun.

Yeah. And it's a sun's energy that's providing that light. So I got in that, so, yeah, so just before we get too crazy, I got in this thought process last night, and I agree with you. I got in this thought process last night and I said, well, okay, what if the basics of life has to do with something to do with the universe. Like how the universe works. Now, this part of it is scientific.

And keep in mind, I'm going to go ahead and tell you this. Nothing I say here disproves religion either. It may make you question certain things about just a book that talks about a relatively short-term type situation. But I don't believe that even if what we're about to say happened, that it, necessarily says that God don't exist at all. I don't believe. So let me make that clear. But what I do believe is that we have these aliens on Skin Walker Ranch that are coming down with extreme radiation waves. We have what we know is our soul that is a energy. Our soul is an

energy. There are things that we can't see all the time. We're creating it now in forms of Wi-Fi, in forms of all these telephone signals that are coming from towers. Those are things we can't see, but they're transmitting data. Our soul is an energy, just like the sun. The sun is a major energy. But you know what the weird thing is? I was comparing last night to, I know this sounds crazy, but it's like the sun. It doesn't really sound that crazy.

But the sun is like our soul. Right. And the planets that needs the sun is our body. Right. Right. So now obviously in many different solar systems there are planets that can't live at all Because they don't have enough sun, right? But the ones that can live and I think there's I would say there's billions of I don't think so

No without question I think there are billions of planets in our in our universe in our universe I guess I'm saying there can't be life on those planets is what I'm saying No it's not true the ones that are just like us yeah no I'm saying no I'm saying planets that don't have the perfect amount of sun. Oh, no, yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't feel like there could be life on those planets. I get it. I get it. But, you know, but there are tons.

But if you think about it this way, there are tons of people that get pregnant and miscarry. There are tons of times that people have sex. I mean, I know this is crazy deep, but there are tons of times that people have sex that never actually equate to a baby. It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough whatever. Yeah, everything is relative to the universe. But the Earth is close enough. It is the perfect formula for us.

a life. Same thing with if you have sex with someone and they get pregnant. It's a perfect formula or whatever happens. And I know that sounds weird. But, but my point is, and then I, so then I ask, I was like, okay, so I'm just taking this and like, I'm just trying to look at the universe to, to, to compare it to life. Like, like, there's so many people out there just like, what is life? What the hell are we doing here? Like, regardless, say the people that don't believe in God, don't believe in religion, which I believe in God. I do, 100%. but say the people that don't like they're probably asking more than

any of us are what are we doing here what is the purpose of this and you know we're human beings we're people but like when we die are we just going to die and that's it but let me let me explain something to you and that's what I that's what I started thinking about last night

I was thinking out I wanted and needed to think last night outside of the realm of religion I had to because I think you have to and then you got to think about I was just trying to put equations together, right? I was just trying to figure out,

I was trying to compare our life and our meaning of life to the universe. Right. And a lot of it goes to when we're talking about Ron, too, like everything is based on a mathematical equation or somehow. So the universe is this huge, vast thing. But there's a reason it all works. It all works together, even if you come to like a smaller scale of a solar system,

a smaller scale of people living on a different planet, to the individual person. Like it's all relative. Yeah, and I think, and I'm going to get into the rest of my point in a second. No, you're good. But I think it's all relative. But I think that the meaning of life is much simpler than,

okay, I'll put it this way. When you think of the universe and how huge it is and how many light years it is and there's no way we can get to other planets and like, oh my God, what the hell is the universe even mean? I think, I think, I think sometimes the most simple explanation is in the most complex things. If that makes any sense. It does to me.

Like you look at the universe and you're like, I don't understand how any of this shit works. And then even if you think about like, okay, so say this report comes out and we verify there are aliens, right? And then we're like, holy shit, this just blows my mind even more. There's other life somewhere? But we... That shouldn't blow people's mind. But listen.

But let me explain this. I think the complexity of the universe is insane and it scares us. But I also think what if the basic answer of our life, if we could take something from that, is a basic. On the universe. Even almost a science. Yeah. And I'm not saying the science means there's not a God. I don't believe that.

No, maybe God created us to mimic the universe. Yeah, I believe God created a formula. What if God was, I don't even want to compare this, but what if God was like a CEO of a a company that is creating an algorithm for everything, right? And that sounds weird because it is math. Math equates to everything. But what if someone created an algorithm for everything? So then I was thinking about this.

So I was like, okay, so what happens if you die? And this all has to do with aliens. I think it has to do with aliens. And aliens might be able to manipulate this stuff. But what happens when you die, even if you're not religious, do you think out there, and you guys can email us or comment on our, whatever, Facebook, go to our Facebook. By the way, we never talk about Facebook enough.

Go to our Facebook and Best the Earth podcast. Check it out. We just posted a thing, comment your thing on whatever. Chad's not good at looking at emails because we get too many. So go to Facebook. Yeah. But what if, what if the whole equation of life is in space, is in, is in, and what if God was the algorithm king, right?

What if you'd almost have to have an algorithm? And I do think there's an algorithm. I think there's a basic one. And I think that like when you die, do you believe your energy just disappears or dissipates? I don't because let me tell you, I believe I'm really on to something about what happens in the universe and how our life here exists. Oh, and this has to do with the star, right? Yes. Okay.

But I just have to finish this and you can say whatever you want because I'm going to lose my train of thought. Go, go, go. Sorry. But so I believe our life on earth has a lot. to do with the equation of life in general. Our life on Earth has to do with a life in space. And what happens in space, I believe, in a very basic manner, equates to life here. Let's look at a life of a planet, right? It's an energy. I mean, not a planet, a sun. Let's look at the life of a sun or a star. A star is a sun. Star is a sun. And by the way, not necessarily all suns have to have planets,

even though 90% of them do, and not necessarily all planets have to have sons, even though 90% of them do. We verified that last night. But what happens when you die? Do you just dissipate? Is your energy? Because it is an energy.

Your soul, I believe if you can prove that you weigh less immediately after death, that is an energy. I believe there's so many things that show we are an energy. The fact that you can have a nuclear meltdown... We are energy and energy. matter. We are. And matter is atom and energy is whatever else, our soul.

So what happens when you die? Do you, even if you're not religious, do you believe you just dissipate in this, that's the end? Well, let's look at space. Let's look at what happens with the energy in our solar systems. What if our sun exploded?

Okay? So we're looking at this from our sun in our solar system. Say that our body is Earth. Our body's earth, our body might be Mars, our body might be whatever, right? But our soul, I know it sounds nuts, but our soul is our soul is the sun. That's our soul. That's the energy. That's the fire that burns. That's what keeps us alive. Because it is. It's what keeps us alive. And that is an actual energy. Just like our soul, just like when these damn aliens come down from Skinwalker

ranch, they're admitting this crazy radiation. That is an energy of some sort. But anyways, So say the sun explodes. Well, we started looking up like what happens when the sun explodes? Because like if I... Or any star or any sun. Yeah, just if I want to look at it from a scientific point of view, strictly scientific, but if I want to look at it from a scientific point of view, what happens when a sun becomes a supernova, which is an explosion?

It gets too big or too whatever. It is too fierce for its own in body, right? So when a sun explodes, according to everything we've read, a sun then goes on to create more matter. But there is a part of that sun that explodes that remains an energy. There's some scientific studies that believe that this sun that explodes, although it's going to create many matter particles. particles, which then turn into planets because they believe all planets were formed based on sun explosions. They still believe that there's enough energy in that explosion that creates another sun. Yes.

Okay. So we're looking up in the sky and we're seeing all these stars. Most of them are stars, right? I mean, I'll agree with you on that. Thank you. Most of them are stars. But you can see planets. You can see parts of whatever.

But most of what you see. We can see the moon. Yeah. And the moon is not a star. I get what you're saying. Most of what you see in the sky is stars, which is an energy. Which means, in my opinion, if you look, I mean, and the crazy thing is there's actually what scientists believe there's more planets by far than stars.

Because typically there are many or at least two or three planets floating around stars. Those are the matter. I believe if you want to compare it to our life on Earth, those planets are our body. Those stars is that energy. That's the soul of that solar system. Exactly. But what if you can compare the way the universe works with the way our life is? Yeah.

So then what does that tell us about when we die? What would you think? Well, I feel like that your soul doesn't dissipate. Like your soul goes to something else. Like a lot of people believe in heaven or whatever. Your soul goes somewhere else. And what if heaven is that? Like what if it could be?

I don't know. But what if it isn't that? But maybe your soul dissipates into something else and there's matter forming a around your soul. Like it even recarnate something. Yeah, you reincarnate another body, another form. But in the Bible, for the Bible's part of it, it does say you get a new body. Well, there you go.

I didn't know the Bible said that. Absolutely, 100% death. Okay. So that, when you die, your soul, yeah, in the Bible, in the Bible, it says your soul leaves your body, and your body turns to dust because it's gone. And you take on a new body. And you take on a new body. Just like a sun would go to it.

It would create another body and it would have a new soul, a new energy. Do that not crazy? I mean, it is crazy. And I like, I mean, we were really thinking last night. I was like, I've never, like, thought outside the box like this. But when you think about it, it really makes sense. It makes basic sense. It does.

And I think so many times. I don't think anyone's ever had that theory either. I don't, I don't know. But, Chad, we got to name that theory something. because I really kind of believe that. Like I think that based on our universe and what we know about our universe, I think that we can take it on different portions,

like I was saying before, your solar system, people on the solar system. Like it all has the same mathematical something. Equation. Yeah. Yeah. How does, yeah, okay, for example,

algebra, there's always a rule. There's a rule in every math, right? What's the rule? The rule brings you from the point, A to point B, but you have to do that rule, right? It's an algorithm. Right. Right. It's all an algorithm.

But what if the most complex thing we think of the universe is really the most basic answer to life? But keep in mind, I'm telling all of you this, whether you're religious or not. I mean, the people out there, they're atheists there are listening us right now. They're like, yeah, exactly. I'm exactly what I'm saying. That makes sense. But then it goes a step farther. I actually think the religious people might be saying, I can't believe he's saying this.

But let me explain something to the religious people, which is me. I'm religious. I believe there's God, without the doubt. I believe they're Jesus. But the thing is, is that even still you, I still believe there's a God. And if you don't believe there's a God, then you have a good argument from this point too. Well, I feel like there's a higher power. There's something controlling the universe.

But I'm controlling us on like, we are just a speck in the universe, right? Mm-hmm. But I think there's some kind of being or something. I don't know if it's matter or energy, but there's someone in charge of the way our lives go. But Sherry, what did I say to you last night? I said, what if an atheist came up to me or a scientist or whoever? And this is based, and I know probably some of you are asking this. Well, I know atheists.

They may believe this. Yeah. So do I. Well, they don't believe that. No, they don't believe that. This is the first time we've ever talked about this. They don't believe most atheists or scientists believe that big bang theory happened. Okay?

Whatever. Right. So I guess the biggest argument is like no one knows what life, like how life started or what it was all about. But in my opinion, my theory is like one of the best so far scientifically. And I'm not even a freaking scientist, but I'm telling you, I'm smart. But listen. So what are we going to name this theory? So y'all let us know like really.

What can we name this theory? But listen, what I do want to say is. is that I asked Sherry, and I was thinking of her from my perspective, okay? So I think there's the biggest argument, if you wanted the biggest argument in the universe, like if there was a celestial body, a planet that could talk, that came to us, and it was the most amazing planet in the universe, and they came to us and said, give me your argument of how this was all created. I want an argument from God, and I want an argument.

from the Big Bang, right? There's no way, in my opinion, that you could prove either one substantially more than the other. I asked Sherry, and this was last night, I was a little buzzed, I asked you last night, I said, Sherry, here's my thought process on this, though. What if I said, okay, and I'm sure some of you

are saying the same thing right now, He's saying there's still a God because after all he just said, prove it. Would you say that to me? You probably would. And I'd say, okay, we'll prove that the Big Bang Theory happened. It's the same. I mean, it really is the same. Like, how am I going to prove that God created everything?

And how are you going to prove the Big Bang Theory happened? But the Big Bang Theory... Because where did the Big Bang Theory come from? I don't know. It had to come something. And then, like, what is the beginning? Maybe there is no beginning. Maybe there's no beginning. Maybe we're in a simulation where our beginning is not even known. I don't know. But listen, this is also why I believe it is the utmost importance that if we have it, look, I'm going to cuss here because I feel like I got to get it across. I'm going to cuss. I'm sorry, but I have to.

I feel like what pisses me off about this government and this world is that if you're fucking hiding, like alien life from scientists, from people that can figure out ways to either communicate with these things, I mean, that is the biggest problem. There was, Bob Lazare said this, quite a few other people said,

and Bob Lazare being an astrophysicist, I think Travis from Skinwalker, I believe, said this. The problem is, is that with everything so damn classified, you don't allow us to technologically advance

the way we could be without being, because everything's classified. We don't get everyone's opinion. We get select few. Yeah, we're dumbed down where other places in the universe, they're more advanced or something.

Yeah, because if you're going to go to Area 51 and say that they had a UFO there, or even alien life, you have to go through incredible checks of all kinds of shit to even qualify to even look at it. But there is other people on our earth that can make, like, understand what's going on, I think. Possible. And if we put our brains together.

Yeah, I think everybody, yes, everybody. Everyone has brains and everybody thinks about things different ways. You don't have to be in astro-physical, you know, whatever. You don't. I think that... Asphor a physicist. You don't have to be that to, like, maybe have your own theory or understand it in a different way. Just like Albert Einstein, I think about him still.

Like, that man was a genius and everyone thinks... He knew more than... I don't even know how he knew that, but, I mean, he was the one that kind of created the whole theory of, well, the matter and the, you know, the black hole theory, you know. I mean... And he was a long time ago. And yeah, and he had the simple, like, mathematical equations that, like, works for everything in this world. Like, I just, I don't know. Guys, this is crazy.

This is just something that I want you guys to think about. And if you want to look at energy, man. I mean, look at Skinwalker Ranch. Radiation out the wazoo. They got radiation like crazy, and they're having an extremely, an extremely large amount of sightings and experience. That's why I want you guys to go watch it. Secret of Skin Walker Ranch. I'm not going to...

One of the things I wanted to... I was trying to figure out before this show happened. I was like, how are we going to do this? Because I don't want to give away the show. Because, like, I want to actually have some of those guys on the podcast. So I don't want to be pissed at us because we give it with a show. But what I'm saying is, is like, I don't think we gave it away at all. There's a lot of crazy stuff to happen on the show.

We have not even talked about it. We're not going to. No. But even still, you guys need to be... need to go watch it because just a radiation theory alone and that's energy that that's energy and then if you start wondering like okay

well what are the basics of how the universe works what happens when a supernova explodes or well a star explodes becomes a supernova which is supernova is basically all the dust that creates from that as a matter and then there's another energy which becomes another soul in my opinion

I think when we die we don't become nothing that doesn't make I think that I think that I think somewhere. Yeah, I think people that believe that when you die, you just die and nothing happens, or in my opinion, I think that is the most glass, a quarter empty, full way you can look at anything. I mean, that's like saying, I mean, honestly, like, that, that makes the least sense to me of anything. I agree.

But, like, even like my own dad, he's like, when you die, you die, there is no habit. But I don't agree with that. But I think that... That's a really pessimistic mind, though. It is. But I think that, you know, after my dad has died a long time ago, I still feel like I feel him and I can speak to him on some kind of, like, length. You know, and people say, oh, yeah, people talk to dead people all the time.

But no, I really feel like on some kind of something, he's here with me still. His soul is able to, like, I don't know. But who knows? What if, what if our dead become alien? I don't know. We talked about that, too. We did. I don't know.

Because you and, okay, both of us, when both of our dads passed away, neither one of us had dreams about them. Yeah. That was it. We did have one night that was crazy. But one night, all of a sudden, we just had, like, crazy experiences where we felt like our dads were present. Yeah, we did. It was strange. And it was weird.

It was strange. I'm not just bullshit in you. And I feel like that. And we're not even going to go. Yeah. We'll probably never go into that. No. But it was just weird.

I think that's the thing that happened to us and we're not. But I just, I'm saying that I don't think people just die. I think their souls go somewhere. And by the way, like what happened that night was insane, I believe. Yeah.

And there were things that I was getting that you, I would never possibly know that. It was almost like you're a medium. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah, it was weird. But what I'm saying is,

but the weird thing about this, it's like as much as I love aliens and love the freaking fact of aliens, I'm never, like, we've been doing this three years. Like I wish I could come on here and be like, oh, yeah, we got abducted. Oh, Chad was to move to Utah just for the chance. I do.

I want to move to the southwest just to freaking be able to interact with aliens. Or Arizona or somewhere like, Chad, do you want the beach or do you want the desert? I love the beach, by the way. I don't really even want to be in a desert. But if aliens, I mean, I guess. If that's where they are, that's where Chad was to be. Well, that is the hotbed. I mean, that whole area, even though they see them a lot over the ocean.

So I think we need a boat. Chad Zonzo, quite often looking at these places. I think we can get the best of both worlds. We can get a big boat that go out in the ocean and then we can do the same thing because they're all over to ocean. Yeah, well, I told you Lake Tahoe is not far from those places. Yeah, but I don't know about Lake Tahoe, man. I don't think aliens will visit there. No, I'd say we could live there and you could go like camp out on somebody else's ranch or something.

Yeah, Skinwalker Ranch. I'm down. Or sneak out there. I'm wearing a damn metal space helmet. So you don't get radiation? Yes, I don't get a damn inflammation in my brain. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I want to have the guys from Skinwalker on the podcast.

I think it'd be cool. I mean, they're freaking geniuses. I mean, that's the thing. I'm giving my theory on this, and I know that a lot of you are thinking about what I just said is probably going to really be thinking about that because I think that's a really crazy theory. I think it's crazy, but I mean, it's not really crazy. No, it's just a basic level of life. It's a basic level of life.

Yeah, from the universe to everything. That is life. Yeah. I mean, a sun has a life. It has a lifespan. It has a whatever. So do we. So does planets.

And when whatever happens happens, what is the most basic thing a sun does when it explodes? Well, it becomes more matter, which is planets, and it becomes more energy. So it kind of recreates. You recreate. And that's where... So why would we not? Yeah. And that's where my mom feels like when she died.

she's going to go to a parallel planet, but that's not really like on our theory. But my mom's, you know. Yeah. But I mean, I think that in anyone that believes in God or doesn't believe in God, I think that for the most part, most people believe that your soul goes somewhere, regardless if you're religious or not or believe in God or not. Yeah, I agree. Well, I don't think most people believe that.

You don't? No. There's a lot of people that don't believe that. My mom's friend believes in that. What? That what? He's an atheist and he believes your soul goes somewhere after you die. Okay, like where's the thing that goes?

I don't know. Waffle house? Chad. I'm just saying atheists believe that when you die, your soul doesn't just automatically die. That's what I'm saying. They believe in something bigger than what we think. I don't know. But yeah, we just wanted to come on tonight.

We weren't really planning this show, you know? Yeah, this was just like... But we wanted to come on and, like, give you this theory. And the Skin Walker Ranch is crazy. It's crazy. Why are all these experiences happening? And I believe they are truly UFO experiences at Skin Walker Ranch. And it's not just Skin Walker Ranch.

Think about it. Most of the places we see aliens are either in the Southwest. Yep. Or over oceans. Over oceans or over like military bases or even nuclear plants. And it's not just military bases here. They're military bases in the U.S. We don't hear a lot about what happens in China and all that stuff, but we don't hear about anything.

They're super big. But they are around like nuclear bases or like military bases or oceans. And I think oceans is a big thing because a lot of pilots spot these, whatever, these things over the ocean. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess at the end, I mean, if I think the one thing is like I hope and pray that that I hope and pray that the government comes out and says yes these we believe

100% to be aliens UFOs somewhere from another planet and the reason for that is because it should make everybody on this planet think a little smaller of themselves their nations and like and if anything it should tell us all

like the United States arguing over black versus white arguing over political party versus this. Countries countries arguing over this shit. And that's why us as a world, as a human race, are never going to advance to them. We're not unless we can figure out how to get along. And that's why I wish we could figure out a way to communicate with aliens. Maybe they can help us.

Yeah, maybe they have. Because I promise you, they have figured something out that we haven't. And these aliens that are coming to see us, I think, are a lot older than us. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. They have a lot more experience than our new world, because we are a new world to them. We are, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're looking down to us like a bunch of little freaking...

uh, ants, chipmunks. Yeah, we're like a little bunch of bullies. That are just assholes. We're a little bullies. We're a little assholes. We're beating up on each other all the time. We're little fire ants, basically. Yeah.

They're just going to, well, thank God we're not. We're like little champines. You know, chimpanzees are like ruthless. You know, if you look at like chimpanzees and monkeys, they're like really ruthless to each other. Like, they say the most ruthless species of their own people as monkeys. Chimpanzees. Really?

Like they were ripped arms off and shit of their own people or of their own monkeys, I mean. But it translates to us. And like we're barbaric world. Yeah, there is some kind of evil in us somehow. I don't know why. But we do all have some kind of evil, I guess. I agree. Because we wouldn't be fighting with each other all the time if we didn't have, possess evil, right?

I don't know. I agree 100%. But I don't want to be like that. But guys, by the way, so I think we just want to come on and tell you this. And listen, listen, listen, before you go, before you go, don't go, don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Listen, we're doing, we are absolutely doing a member's only section of our website and we're going to have video.

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And we do want to do this, you know? There's a lot of people out there that asked, how can we support you? Yeah, exactly. And we've not done that for three years. We've not really even thought of it. and thought about that. No.

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It's not as complicated as we think. Yep. What if the universe is way more complicated, but our life, what happens? our life is mirrored from the universe. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But guys, we love you. We hope you have an amazing night.

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