Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - South Africa’s White Genocide | Fact or Propaganda?

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

In tonight’s explosive episode of Investigate Earth, we dig deep into one of the most controversial narratives coming out of South Africa — is there an ongoing genocide against white South Africans, or is this claim part of a global misinformation campaign? We break down the violent crime statistics, examine racially targeted farm attacks, and confront the viral rhetoric from political leaders that has sparked international alarm. We also revisit the historical roots of South Africa’s racial divide by exploring the apartheid era of the late '80s and early '90s — a regime of systemic oppression that shaped the nation’s modern dynamics. And we look at how this context plays into the U.S. decision under President Trump to open the door for white South African refugees. Is this a humanitarian crisis being ignored by the mainstream, or a distorted narrative for political gain? Tune in for the facts, the theories, and the uncomfortable truths the media won’t touch.

welcome to Investigator of Podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're diving into a question to spark and heated debate around the world. Are white South Africans the victims of a slow motion genocide? Or is this just another example of weaponized misinformation? We're talking about the brutal farm murders and land expropriation threats to fiery rhetoric by political leaders. We're cutting through the noise to separate fact from fear. Is there a coordinated campaign to erase a population? Or is the truth far more complicated than headlines suggest. We'll look at the stats, the history, and the current day chaos to give you the

unfiltered reality that mainstream won't touch. Guys, welcome to the show. It is May the 18th, 2025. The name of this song is Riot by Blood Red Sun. I figured that it is fitting, especially considering what we're talking about. It seems like there's someone or some faction of people that want to create a riot and in specific in South Africa. Now, there is a long history that we're going to go down about South Africa.

how did we get to the place that South Africa is at? And is white genocide actually a thing that's going on? Now, obviously, this topic is very touchy. There's a lot of people that do not want to talk about stuff like this. And I felt like, especially after reading social media and seeing everybody's comments about this, especially after Donald J. Trump, the 47th president of the United States, came out in a press conference and talked about specifically that, number one, we need to bring refugees from South Africa. and number two, they're supposed to have a summit meeting that is apparently, I guess, going to take place in South Africa. But Donald Trump himself said, I don't know that we can do that right now, especially with the state of South Africa and everything that's going on there. And I think it's important because a lot of the main players that I believe is behind this whole South Africa thing are people that you're going to be very reminiscent of.

Let's just put it that way. There are people involved in South Africa and has been involved since the apartheid. that has been involved in U.S. elections, that has been involved in U.S. politics, that has been involved in the U.K., in many other places around the world, to where you look at these countries and you say, how in the hell did it get this bad in these places? Exactly. And you just got to think about, too, this has been going on since the 1990s. Yeah. That's a long time, and that's a lot of stuff that's happened between now and 1994.

And I told Chad, before we did this podcast, we have to be very careful. careful and try to make this as balanced as possible because it is a very touchy subject. And there's so many people that are saying, no, this is total BS. This is not happening. And Chad's like, well, look at their politicians or their politics. You know, what side are they on? But I think that it goes beyond that. It goes beyond politics.

Absolutely, it does. Yeah. I mean, is this a race war that's being set up in South Africa? And the better question is, how long has this been going on? Now, where we talk about South Africa and how we're going to talk about South Africa and what's going on today and has been going on, especially the past five to ten years and where this stuff has really started ramping up, there are many journalists and many news organizations literally that seven years ago had major news pieces on some of the stuff that we're going to talk about. And those same news agencies are now saying that what Donald Trump is saying or what this administration is saying, it's all BS. It's all misinformation and disinformation. And I don't think that's the case.

But what this episode is going to aim to do is we're going to give you all of the information. So you guys can make your decision for yourself. Is this happening or is this not? And as I said already, there are so many people that have different opinions on this. There are people that say, well, this isn't happening whatsoever. And to be, I mean, just to be quite honest, a lot of people on the left are the ones that are saying, this isn't happening. we don't care really what's going on in South Africa. When Donald Trump talked about that he was going to start bringing in South African refugees,

which we have now brought in, you know, that's when the left and especially the left mainstream media came out in droves and said, oh my God, why are we bringing in South African refugees? They don't need any type of refugee program. They don't need to get away from South Africa. And these are the same news organizations, the same people that have, you know, champion for wide open borders in the United States, especially over the past four years, to where anyone and everyone was allowed in the United States, no matter who you were, whether you were Chinese nationals, potentially connected to the Chinese Communist Party, whether you were a terrorist

organization that came out of the Middle East or Russia or somewhere else, they were completely fine with that. But if it had anything to do with white South Africans that were coming out of South Africa, because of a potential race war that seems like is going on there, that's when they have a problem bringing people in. So many of you probably want to know, like, how did this whole thing start and what is kind of the history of South Africa? There was an apartheid. And an apartheid in South Africa was a system of institutionalized racial segregation and discrimination that was officially implemented by the National Party government from 1948.

Now, the word apartheid is Afrikan's for apartness or separateness. So key elements of apartheid. There are racial classifications. All South Africans were classified by race primarily as white, black African, colored, mixed race, or Indian Asian. Now, these classifications determine nearly every aspect of a person's life. Now, there were laws that were set up in place for this. The black South Africans were required to carry pass books and needed government permission to travel or to live in certain areas. These laws restricted freedom of movement.

And then you had forced removals. millions of black South Africans were forcibly removed from their homes and relocated to underdeveloped segregated areas called band trustins or homelands. Then you have this separate development where public services like education, health care, and transportation were all segregated and vastly unequal, with white areas receiving far more funding and far more resources. And then you have the black South Africans were denied the right to vote or participate in national government. only white citizens had full political rights. And then the anti-apartheid activists, including figures like Nelson Mandela, were imprisoned or killed. Organizations like the African National Congress or ANC were banned for many years. So then internal resistance, international pressure, including sanctions and boycotts, and negotiations in the early 1990s,

led to the dismantling of the apartheid. And in 1994, Nelson Mandela became South Africa's first black president in the country, first fully Democratic election. So that's how a lot of this started. This was kind of the ramp up, the lead up to what we're seeing today. Obviously, the whites in South Africa back during this time frame were very racist against blacks. I mean, that's what it sounds like at the very least. If you're not allowed to vote, you've got to carry a special passport around to even do anything.

All of the social services or all of the actual, you know, government funded services were only really given to the whites and they kind of screwed the blacks out of this. And I want you to keep in mind when you think about South Africa, only like 7% of South Africans are white. And the majority of the land was owned by the whites. Yeah, absolutely. And so that's kind of how we got to where we are. Now, the question is, is what is actually happening today? Is there a genocide? Are the blacks in South Africa trying to kill the whites intentionally?

Are there party leaders or people in government that are pushing for this? this radicalization of their people to then go and kill whites. And if that is the case, is it okay to do that? Because it seems like there's a lot of people on the left, especially in the United States, that are going on these mainstream media news shows and saying, well, you know what? They kind of have a right to do this because, you know, what happened in apartheid? And there are people in the United States that look back at slavery. And that's a big stain on the United States of America.

And I think there is a large portion of the population in America today, especially obviously the black community that feel a certain way about slavery. They still feel a certain way about the government. And I'm sure there's a lot that feel a certain way about whites because of where their lineage or heritage came from. And that's obvious and easy to understand. It's very similar also to kind of how we talk about the Middle East, right? If the United States goes in and bombs Afghanistan or they go in and bomb Iraq for no reason whatsoever because of weapons or mass destruction, allegedly, which never actually happened. But if we go in and start killing the hell out of people, including civilians, then you're going to bring this sentiment against you from the West, from the United States, of the people of these lands.

And they're going to hate you. They're going to have this thing inside of them that says, you know what? I want revenge. I feel like we're owed something from the shit that we had to go through. And I do think, you know, I don't want to sound woke when I'm saying this. I'm just explaining this is the case. the problem with all this comes when politicians or NGOs, which are non-government organizations, which essentially operate outside of the boundaries of government, when they come in to try to

reverse whatever happened in the past, they usually sway completely far on one side of the fence just similarly to the same way slavery would have happened in the United States. if the NGOs and a lot of these organizations had their way, then they would likely do the exact same thing to whites in America. That is their mindset of thinking to say this is the only way that it's ever going to be justified. It's the only way we're ever going to feel like we're equal again or whatever is that if we enslave whites or if we kill whites or if we do this. And there are NGOs that push heavily for this stuff. We saw it in the United States. We're seeing it now in South Africa.

and the problem is, is that this thing in South Africa has been ramping up for quite some time, and it's only about to get worse. And so I want to give both sides of this picture. We're not just going to say, hey, this is just blacks killing whites indiscriminately. And maybe they are, and we're going to talk about that. But you also at the very least have to understand where South Africa came from and what happened in South Africa for a very long time against black. And I think this is more of a land battle than anything, you know, and it has to do with blacks and white. whites. Whites have the majority of the land. They took it away from the blacks.

The blacks won it back. How do you balance that? And is it plausible to just go kill white farmers because you want your land back? Does that make sense to you? Like, is there another way that you can disperse the land without having to kill white farmers? Well, and here's the thing, too, right? So the South African government has went very, very far left. They are as far left almost as you can possibly be.

and South Africa today is extremely far left. If we look back on the past four years, however you want to look at the Biden-Harris administration, there was a lot of push for a radicalization on the left. That's why there were many people that used to be Democrats that left the Democrat Party, and they're either conservatives or at the very least actual liberals. Like when I say liberals, I'm talking about actual liberals, the people that want less government, more power to the people. that's what Democrats were supposed to stand for back in the day.

And now they went so far left to where they want more government. They want more control of the people. And that's why so many people have left that party. I also believe that's why Donald Trump won in 2024 because it was just, you know, you had one of two options. People selected this. I think maybe we have more freedom with this. I think that this guy is wanting to push more for, you know, accountability in our government

and law enforcement, which we saw with Doge and Elon Musk, even though I don't trust all these people either. So I want to make clear. I mean, I did vote for Trump. I think he was the best choice at the time, but I am very critical of Trump. I always have been. I want to hold him just as accountable as any other politician that is out there, including everyone in his cabinet. We've talked extensively about whether they're ever going to release Epstein files,

which I have to hear in Cash Vettel and Dan Bongino go on Fox News. Oh, my God. I'm going to say no, probably to that. That is crazy. And what Chad's talking about is they're basically saying that Jeffrey Epstein, did take his own life. He committed suicide in the jail. Yeah.

And they are straight-faced about it when they're asked about it. Yeah. When she asked him about it, it was so weird because the way that Dan Bongino kind of responded to this. And it was also interesting because Dan Bongino on his show for so long has talked about Epstein didn't kill himself. They talked about the corruption. He talked about all of his sources that he knew for sure that this Epstein did not kill

himself. And then all of a sudden you have him with Maria Bartramo from Fox News, along with Cash Patel, and obviously Dan Bongino is a deputy FBI director. But I want to play that quick clip. This has nothing to do what we're talking about, but you at least have to hear it. And it's so weird to look at their faces as they're actually answering this. Listen. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.

He killed himself. Again, you want me to get, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself. I know it's hard work. Yeah, so there you go. And it's so weird because it's like they are captured now. Yeah, and it's just like two weeks ago or even two months ago, they were all about he was suicided and it wasn't by his hands.

No, and they've always been on this. I mean, Dan Bongino has Cash Patel went on every podcast talking about this. And not all of a sudden, trust me, guys, he killed himself. Don't even worry about it anymore. We got this. He definitely killed himself. And then Dan Bonjita's like, yeah, he did kill himself. So, you know, let's move on from this.

Let's just keep going. And that is not like Dan. Usually he is very animated when he's talking and he's going off and like preaching almost. Like, it happened. This happened. Yeah. committed suicide. That's not the way he said it. Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. So let's start with Trump's press conference. It's only about a minute clip, but you at least have to understand where a lot of this hoopla came from. This is what kind of blew up the South Africa white genocide, what many people are calling conspiracy or misinformation. But this is what Trump said to the media just the other day. Listen.

And we don't want to see people be killed. now South Africa leadership is coming to see me I understand sometime next week and you know we're supposed to have a I guess a G20 meeting there or something but we're having a G20 meeting I don't know how we can go unless that situation's taken care of but it's a genocide that's taking place that you people don't want to write about but it's a terrible thing that's taking place and farmers are being killed they happen to be white but whether they're white or white or white or black, makes no difference to me, but white farmers are being brutally killed and their land is being confiscated in South Africa. And the newspapers and the media, television media, doesn't even talk about it. If it were the other way around, they talk about it, that would be the only story they'd talk about. And I don't care who they are. I don't care about their race, their color. I don't care about their height, their weight. I don't care about anything. I just know that what's happening is terrible. I have people that live in South Africa.

They say it's a terrible situation taking place. So we've essentially extended citizenship to those people to escape from that violence and come here. So there was his statement. And, you know, that's what we want to do with this episode tonight is talk about, is this true? Is this happening or is it not? Is this just complete misinformation from the Donald Trump administration? Or is this actually going on? And we have some firsthand witness accounts that we're going to play to you guys to kind of give you a better example, not just over to past six months or a year, over to past like 10 years, what has been leading into where we're at today.

And I also want to mention that we had very good friends that were from South Africa that got a visa to come to America to work for a huge company where we live. And they were here for what, three or four years. I think became really good friends. But in the meantime, when we go out and like chat with them and hang out, they told us all about how South Africa is. Yeah. This is not a great country to live in no matter if you're black or white. There is a lot of crime and it is very scary. Like you cannot even drive in your car without worrying about somebody robbing you, robbing you, hijacking your car, doing any kind of stuff to you.

And this was years ago that we used to talk to them. Yeah. And they did say back then. years ago, like six years ago, I think, that they felt like white people were more targeted than black people. Yeah. You got to go back to the apartheid, right? When they separated everything and it's still that way today. I mean, the region of South Africa is extremely separated. You have a white section of the country and then you have a black section and they, you know, basically still maintain those racial lines to this day, even after the apartheid. And I think now a lot of the

black community also wants to maintain that. And it's kind of just went kind of almost like the reverse side of racism from what happened during the apartheid. Now it's starting to shift the other way. And yes, absolutely. South Africa is not a place necessarily that's very safe. When you go to certain places in South Africa, you've got to be extremely visual or I guess not visual, but cognizant of where you're at, your surroundings, because oftentimes people get murdered for their vehicles. Yes. They get murdered for like watches or anything you're carrying. And it does seem it is disproportionately two whites in this area than blacks.

Yeah. And they had two young daughters, like, I don't know, young 20s, I guess. And they were terrified for them to even drive down the street because of the crime. Yeah. And the crime is terrible there. And that has to go back to the government. Why is the crime so bad? Yeah, you're exactly right.

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You can just download a telegram app. Look up, Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast. You'll find us. We also have a substack. And I think that's all we have to get out. So here is a clip from someone that had a deep connection to South Africans that went through kind of hell and went through this very, very bad situation. Every three minutes, a woman is raped in South Africa. And countless infants are below the age of two years old are raped on cultural beliefs in South Africa alone.

Listen to this guy in his account of what he knows that some of his family went through. In South Africa, if you're white, you have a target on your back, whether you live on a farm or whether you live in the suburbs. In 2011, they brutally and savagely murdered my wife's grandfather. They did not ask where he was born. He was born in Austria. However, when they saw the color of his skin, they did not ask where he was from. They savagely tortured him, strangled him, burnt him, and then murdered him. Before they did this, they also raped his wife in front of him to death.

Yes, several men raped her to death. So living in South Africa is not for the faint-hearted. The ANC government goes out and continuously calls for the killing of the white minority. Now, not only the white men are suffering, but the woman. There is basically no woman's rights. Every three minutes a woman is raped in South Africa. Countless infants below the age of two years old are raped on cultural beliefs in South Africa. Animals that get stolen or hacked to death alive.

The cattle industry is also suffering because these guys go out and butcher animals while they're alive just to get meat and to fearmonger the farmers on their farms. Before they attack a house in the suburbs, they go and they poison the dogs, putting the dogs through absolute misery and pain. It is tear-jurking to think what is going on in my home country. And here I live in America as a refugee and I've got safety and pleasures of life that my fellow South Africans cannot fathom. You know, being a house owner in America, I actually own a house that hasn't got a 10-foot fence around it, which feels weird.

And nothing seems to be changing in South Africa because the government doesn't want it to change. They want the white man to suffer. They want the white woman to suffer. They want the children to suffer. They are killing the language. They are killing the people. And what they are standing for is ungodly and unethical and immoral. moral and I honestly believe that Silromaposa Julius Malema and the ANC will be held accountable

and need to appear in front of a jury on accounts of crimes against humanity and against the white minority in South Africa. We will not cease until this happens because God will prevail and evil will come second. Now you know you've got the woke liberal and South Africa, who are basically like the band on the Titanic ship. They will play music and think everything's honky dory until everyone is dead. And then they will come begging for help. So disregard the people in South Africa that say the Rainbow Nation is fine. The Rainbow Nation is burning to the ground. And that is very true. And, you know, keeping in mind, as I said earlier, a lot of these mainstream media outlets that, you know, once did report,

on this stuff. They are in complete reversal now. And it's mostly because of the fact that you have Trump and the administration is bringing in these refugees. And a lot of these refugees, which we're going to play Julius Malima, some of these politicians in South Africa, what they're calling for, what they're actively calling for. We're talking about in huge, massive demonstrations, protests, whatever they are on the streets. They have thousands of people in front of them.

And they're literally calling for the killing of whites. And this is what's so crazy to me because when I was looking at this up to do the podcast, I just got on chat GBT and asked what is going on with the white farmers in South Africa. And what it tells me is only 40 white farmers have been killed. How do you call it a genocide when it's only 40 people? Well, it said 39 people. Yeah, that's still a lot. 39 people. And there's this big commotion about 39 people.

Well, here's also the thing. Number one, South Africa has hidden a lot. lot of their crime stats. Number one, they do not actually take down or I guess put into data what the racial demographic of the murders are. And if you actually look at the murders, which are still widely mis- or misunderreported, it is insane. I mean, we're talking about thousands and thousands and thousands of murders in South Africa. And the problem is that they don't report how many of those murders are black to whites or whites to blacks or whatever the case is. Now, the United States, they used to do that. You know, the FBI crime data used to be

a really good way at looking at like what was the disappropriation of murders versus a race versus gender versus all these things. And then during the last four years, especially under Biden and Harris, Biden and Harris stopped mandating the FBI to actually report violent crime and all this stuff. And that's a big reason why they always try to say, well, violent crime was went down under the Biden Harris administration. It's because they basically commanded the FBI not to report it anymore. It's not that their crime went down.

It's just that they started lying to the people about what crime was actually going on and who was committing crime. That is the problem. And this is a system that they do and they implement in countries that the globalists are trying to take over. We're talking about the UK. We're talking about South Africa and the United States in general. And so as we talk more about who also is involved, especially after the apartheid happened or right before it stopped, then you'll understand that this is a system that is to control these nations and to cause complete chaos. And what they really want to do is they want to run a race war. They want to, they want to create as much chaos and killing as they possibly can.

This is the best way that you can take over countries and fully implement plans that maybe you want to do this in bigger countries. So you start somewhere like South Africa. And they've tried, I believe, fully to do this in America. You know, keep in mind the Summer of Love, the BLM riots, the Antifa organization, the LGBTQ plus organization. We have many friends, by the way, that are gay or lesbian or black or all of this stuff. And many of those people do not agree with how BLM went about their cause or how LGBTQ has pushed their cause. Most of these people do not agree with that.

And, you know, we've had so many people reach out to us about the BLM thing in itself. And they said, you know, the BLM is not representing me. I mean, like a lot of the people that are over these chapters are people that have bought multi-million dollar houses. None of this money ever went to the black community. Yeah. And by the way, the girl that was in the president was really white. Yes.

Yeah, some of these people are white. They're a part of the Antifa movement. And they're all being funded heavily by organizations like the Open Society Foundation, which George Soros operates and owns. And for those that don't know anything about George Soros, I'm surprised. But number two, George Soros has literally created chaos, apartheids, overthrows of government, coups, you name it, around the world. And he's done it all with his money and his organizations, these NGOs.

But I want to play this. This was just two days ago. The BBC news reported on this, right? And it says, White South African Defends Refugee Status in the U.S. Listen to this quick report. The 59 white South Africans arrived in the US where they've been granted refugee status. President Trump says the refugee applications were expedited because the people concerned were victims of racial discrimination, something South Africa's government denies.

The Afrikaners are descended from Dutch settlers who arrived four centuries ago to South Africa and who led the government which brought in apartheid, a racially segregated political system, which has led to discrimination against black South Africa. Africans and it's no longer in force. Well, usually it takes years for the US government to process refugee applications, but this group waited only three months. Well, North America correspondent, Nomia Iqbar has been speaking to one of those who made the journey. If you're white, you're wrong in South Africa. You're a landfief. You are a racist. The whole time is being told. And there is racist white people. Plenty of them. You say you're not a racist white person.

No, not at all. I've got. many black friends. I think I've got more African black men as friends, as white friends. I'm tired of being told just because I'm white. I'm a thief. Just because I'm white, I'm wrong in this. I had nothing to do with apartheid. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Is there anything specific that's happened, Charles, that made you think I've got to get out of here? After the death rates and stuff and my machinery being cut up and I'm still, after reporting everything to the police, not getting any protection. protection or anything like that. The only thing that's left on my farm is a sign that says

mining area. All the fences has been taken off, wombgates has been broken off. There are voices out there, including the South African president who has called you cowards. You've got other Afrikaners who are saying that you're not refugees, you're opportunists, that you've abandoned the country. What would you say to those people? I had to leave five bedroom house, which I will lose now because. I'm not going to pay for it. Behind, my car behind, my dog's behind, my mother behind. It is not, I didn't come here for fun, but my children are safe.

What was it like when you got off the shuttle bus and came into that hangar and were greeted by the Trump administration? It was overwhelming. I didn't expect that because I thought we were going to be in a shuttle bus, taken somewhere. and we will start working. All of us that is there, we know we're going to start here from the bottom because we are the new people here. We're going to start from the bottom, bottom, bottom, bottom.

Do you ever worry that you might be caught up in some big political game here? You're a pawn somehow. Yeah, it's a scary, scary thing, but people mustn't think we're just taking advantage of this. We're coming here to make a contribution to the country. Old tweets of yours have been dug up in which you, appear to have made anti-Semitic comments and so people are questioning should you be here what would

you say to that i would like them i've deleted the comment comment but i was actually thinking i should have not deleted it if you go look where i commented on it was passed over the orthodox jews and i'm christian was spitting and screaming and bumping christians walking with the cross for me is a christian that is not acceptable in in israel and i and i went and I said something on Twitter, which I copy and paste it from somebody else's page, because if you go read my post, you'll see it's not the way I write. So you would quote as someone else.

I mean the quotes... I copied and pasted it. The quotes were anti-Semitic. They said Jews are dangerous people, they're untrustworthy, they're not God's chosen people. I was like super angry. So you did it out of anger? Yeah.

And I was in hospital at that point of time. I was on morphine, but that's not an excuse. I'm not trying to make you an anti-same. like an excuse. Even now. Of course. Of course it had to go there. Of course, the BBC said, well, you're anti-Semite, right? I mean, you said something because you're Christian and you said something against Jews. So then obviously everything we're talking about here is Nolan Boyd.

You should have been killed in South Africa, actually, and I don't even know why you're here. His excuses is on morphine, though. Yeah, but he also talked about kind of the, you know, the, I don't know what it is, the discrimination against Christians and some of his experiences. That's why he copied this. And we've talked about it many times on this podcast, but it should have never, ever been brought up in this particular context. Now, I want to talk about specifically, as of today, 2025, South Africa has passed many policies, practices, or laws that 100% discriminate against whites. For example, the broad-based black economic empowerment, or BBBE, and affirmative action that has raised concerns among many white.

South Africans. Now, the BBBEE introduced after the apartheid to address racial inequalities in the economy. It gives preferential treatment in government contracts, employment, and business ownership to black, colored, and Indian South Africans. Many white South Africans feel excluded from economic opportunities as a result. And while not a law that targets the whites directly, it discriminates based on race, which critics argue is reverse racism. And then you have the Employment Equity Act, the law, aims to correct racial imbalances in the workplace. Companies are required to meet racial quotas based on national demographics. We heavily saw this, especially over the past four years, very, very similar practices

and policies. And then in practice, this often leads to white job applicants or employees being passed over, especially in government and state-owned sectors. And in some court cases have upheld the right to use race in hiring and promotion decisions reinforcing this policy. And then here is the big one. there was land reform and expropriation without compensation. So what that is is in 2018, the South African government moved to amend the Constitution

to allow for land expropriation without compensation. So while framed as a means to redress historical injustices, critics argue it disproportionately targets white-owned farmland spark and fears of Zimbabwe-style land seizures. And as of now, implementation is limited. but the threat alone has created significant concern among the white farmers. And so what this means is that this group of people in this particular part of government, they may say at any time because now it is passed and we've already started seeing it. But it says that you or we will help you seize land from white farmers or white people that own land out there.

Yeah, you can just take the land and you don't compensate them. No, you don't compensate them whatsoever. You don't get money for it. you don't sell the land to anybody, they just come and take your land. And, you know, you may have been a generational farmer. And, you know, there's been five to ten generations of people in this area of South Africa that now there have been some that are already targeted. Some of this land has already been taken.

And then others, the land that has not been taken, there's a lot of people that have been murdered. And I'm talking about massive murders. There are huge security contracts in South Africa to where a lot of these security contractors, once we're either in the Middle East, doing stuff for the United States government or the British government in terms of terrorism. Now a lot of these groups are going to South Africa to protect farmers' land because without this and without the mass offenses around their property and without all this stuff, they're going to

be murdered. I mean, that's just what it is. And then you have this rhetoric from political leaders, figures like Julius Malema, leader of the economic freedom fighters or the EFF, have made openly hostile statements about white South Africans, including calls to take the land. But what mainstream media will not tell you, what they're not going to report on is what Julius Malima and others have actually said. It's not just, we're going to take the land.

They've said a lot more about that, including the genocide and slaughter of white people living in South Africa. And so I want to play that. For the people that say that politicians and big time politicians and big time parts of the government are not calling for this, just listen. Hopefully you understand this, but listen. Never be scared to kill. A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing

because the killing is part of a revolutionary act. I don't know what's going to happen in the future. I'm saying to you, we've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now. I can't guarantee the future. Yeah, but I mean, you'd understand somebody watching that, especially as it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out. It sounds like a genocide or call. Cry babies.

Cry babies. I'm not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now. I can't give a guarantee of the future, especially when things are going the way they are. Subtext. Especially if things are going the way they are, there will be a revolution in this country, I can tell you now. We are not calling for the slaughter of white people at least for now. That means at some future date, we may call for the slaughter of white people. of white people. Is that correct? Let's deal with that at that future date. I don't know what's going to

happen. So you're saying you are not ruling out that in the future you may very well call for the slaughter of white people. It may not be me. Could it be you? It could be me, yes, but it may not be me. Yeah, so it could be you. You could at some future date call for the slaughter of white people. shoot to kill Hamaza Okay, so you hear how many people are in that stadium where they are literally actively calling for the killing

of white people and farmers, right? 90% of the farmers in South Africa are white. There are some black farmers out there, but most of them are white. So I want to go ahead and start saying that when you start seeing these posts on social media that says all of this stuff about refugees

in South Africa and genocide of whites and all of this is just complete bullshit it. I mean, they're saying it themselves. Well, in this video, I think that you took was in 2016. Yes, it wasn't even recent. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, but it is happening now. And I wanted to quote what he said. Killing is a part of a revolution. In order to have a revolution, you have to kill.

And then he goes on to say, kill the poor, kill the farmer, meaning kill the whites. Yeah, absolutely. No, they, for sure, that is what this freedom fighters part of the government is pushing for. They are now, you know, back in 2016, even before that, they were a smaller section of government. And now they have moved into massive section of government. Most of this government has brought on this very liberalistic, far left radical view of, hey, this is what we want to accomplish. We know that we need a revolution.

We know the only way to do that is by killing whites. And we've already talked about this. We've already kind of been getting people ready for this. And so I think that now you're starting to see it ramp up a lot more. Now, Trump is obviously calling out this shit. He's bringing in refugees. He's saying, look, you're not going to do this unless this and this and this. And obviously, the United States or America and our trade agreements and all that stuff

can heavily influence South Africa as far as what products they're bringing in, what products they're not bringing in, what they're getting out. So we as an administration of the United States have an opportunity to stop this. through various means. And I think that's what Trump is starting to do here. And that's why the left is freaking out in mainstream media trying to say it's all bullshit and misinformation. And I also wanted to mention, too, you know, I was just thinking about this as he was saying

this, kill the poor. Well, we have to remember a lot of white citizens in South Africa are now poor. Absolutely. They're in poor communities. Yeah, a lot of them have been driven out. You know, you think about South Africa, oh, all these white people are the rich people like controlling everything. This is not what is happening.

There's a lot of white people that are poor. Yeah, not now. I mean, you know, during the apartheid, absolutely. Now, absolutely not. And, you know, also a lot of the whites in South Africa are Christians. It is predominantly a Christian-based group of people in South Africa. And you have the black community in South Africa. A lot of them are not Christians.

They have their own kind of cultural beliefs. And you had heard the earlier post about kind of some of the stuff they believe in. But there was a guy that went on CNN just the other day, and it says, you know, basically top Democrat Rick Stingle justified the genocide of white farmers in South Africa. Listen. These are the descendants of the people who created the most diabolical system of white supremacy in human history, apartheid. They're not directly responsible for it. But it was a system that actually moved black people off of the arable land. So they inherited the land that the black people

had to give up. It was called forced removal. Something called a Bantustan policy where they moved black people out of the cities and farmlands into these remote areas with non-Arabble land. I mean, it was just one of the most worst processes ever. But what has happened in this strange, bizarre world we're living in is that the Afrikaners have become the darling of these right-wing, white supremacist movements around the world. It's like the lost cause for them. It's like the old confederacy. held up as these white Christians who are being dispossessed of their land. It's like this is a modern replacement theory in a country where, by the way, white people make up 7% of the population and own 78% of the farmland.

So it's actually there's no injustice here. So there you go. And so he's just basically saying, look, you know, whatever's happening to whites in South Africa now is warranted. And, you know, it should probably continue to happen. And this is absolutely completely wrong. Now, I understand 100% about the apartheid and what all that means, right? And I understand that it's not good of what happened to the Africans in South Africa during that time period.

I don't believe that whites were killing Africans at that point, but they were definitely disproportionately taken them out of the economy, taking them out of their ability to make a living. There's a lot of stuff, you know, as we talked about in the beginning of the show, that you can say there's going to be a lot of pissed off. people. We also have a clip from Dave Rubin where he talks to Rob Hersoff about the political and economic crisis in South Africa. Now, the interesting thing about this guy is if you listen to kind of his lineage and his history, sounds definitely like an elite. He sounds one of those people that are kind of up there in the upper echelon of maybe those WF people or George Soros is and whoever. But he does at least break down kind of what's happening in South Africa and kind of how the economy and government is going towards collapse.

And at the very least, that's important to hear, although I'll break down maybe why is weird to hear him saying this. Listen. But for 30 years, if you look at every single metric, health, education, employment, the country has gone backwards. Every state-owned enterprise has been bankrupted. South African Airways used to be the best airline in Africa, bankrupt. S-com, electricity supply commission.

we don't have enough electricity. We have load shedding, which means four, five, six hours a day. We have no electricity. The rail network's destroyed. The ANC has destroyed our country and it is a racist, kleptocratic and ineptocratic government. Rob Herzof of South Africa, you know, one of the beautiful things of coming to this conference is you meet people from all over the world. Everyone is going through their own experience kind of personally and politically in their own countries. South Africa suddenly, you know, has gotten on the American map a little bit in the last week or so. But before we get to that, maybe if you could just give me a kind of one-minute bio on who you are, how you sort of got into public life, and then we can hit the issues. Sure, I'm 64 years old. I'm fifth-generation South African, and I was born into real wealth in South Africa. My grandfather founded a big mining industrial business, and I spent my education in South Africa.

I did university there, and I spent two years as an infantry officer in the South African defense force in the old days. Then I went to America, Goldman Sachs, Harvard Business School, and then I worked as Rupert Murdoch's right-hand man for three years in New York. I then went to Europe. Wow. More corporate life, founded Markey Jet Europe, sold in net jets, and did various entrepreneurial things, had failure, success. And in 2017, after 31 years overseas, I went back to South Africa. And I wish this was a poor white that is talking right now. But unfortunately, is not. This guy is an elite. He was Ruben Murgach's right-hand man, which is obviously one of the founders and the owner of Fox News and, you know, huge, huge influence around the world. And, you know,

you look at this guy, this white guy, fifth generation, South African from South Africa. And then you think about the apartheid. You think about everything. It kind of went down the line against the blacks in South Africa. And then you ask yourself, it's like, this guy's about to call out. What's wrong with South Africa now, which has been a complete pendulum swing to what the apartheid was. Now it's going to get to them and they don't like it. That's kind of the way it sounds. And I'm sure a lot of people out there are like, oh, whoa, we're not supposed to be discriminated against because, you know, no.

Like we can't be discriminating against. And unfortunately, the discrimination on this side is going to be much harsher because it sounds like as we've been talking about and we're going to get to another clip in just a little bit to where there are actual murders happening. They are killing white farmers. And a lot of these farmers, a lot of these whites that are living on this land and living in places in South Africa had nothing to do with the apartheid. They didn't have anything to do with the apartheid. They didn't.

They don't hate blacks or hate the black South Africans. And it always leads back to the leaders that are in control of certain sections that make the decisions or also hurt the people of the country or the people over anybody. And I've said that about Israel. I've said that about every type of country that has a leadership that represents that area, right? It's not necessarily representation of the people more than it's representation of the elite power structure that a lot of these countries have. And I think the apartheid had this elite power structure. You hear this guy right here. You know, I was a part of the military there.

I was Rupert Murdoch's right hand man. I was all these things until I wasn't until I came back to the country, which was. listen to more of what he says. In addition to business, I became an accidental activist, a capitalist activist. I made a speech three and a half years ago that went viral, calling out the government. And once I'd survived, you're a racist card, because a lot of political people said, you may not like him, but he's not a racist, I have kept going. And I've become probably one of the, probably the only business person standing up and speaking

out against the ANC government. So talk to me about the ANC government and what has kind of put this now on the map from an American perspective where South Africa is just not on the long list of countries that we talk about that often. Well, I'm glad America's noticed. I really am because we're on the edge of going into the abyss. The ANC, the liberation ANC in 1994, took control of the country. And they've been running the country with more than 50% of the vote for the last 30 years.

And only last year in 2024 in May did they drop below 50% who were forced to form, not even a coalition. It's a group of political parties that have no mission statement and are not doing very much. But the ANC is no longer in control. But for 30 years, if you look at every single metric, health, education, employment, the country has gone backwards. Every state-owned enterprise has been bankrupted. South African Airways used to be the best airline in Africa, bankrupt.

Scom, electricity supply commission. We don't have enough electricity. We have load shedding, which means four, five, six hours a day we have electricity. The rail network's destroyed. The ANC has destroyed our country, and it is a racist, kleptocratic and ineptocratic government. So let's talk about the racist part, because obviously that's still, unfortunately, the word of the day. It's a little hard, I think, from an American perspective, to, for people to, to realize that a government could truly govern in a, I guess it's not that hard in some sense,

but that could govern in an actual racist matter when it comes to who's getting what services and what land, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, well, I got to stop here for a second because this is Dave Rubin and he's talking this really rich white guy. That's an elite. But I'm sure that if I did not speak about this, then there would be people while they're like, are you kidding me? Like what he just said?

Most Americans would not believe that this. could happen that someone would rule based on race. What do you think happened during the apartheid? That is exactly what happened. It was ruling of white power over a South African nation based on race. We've already talked about that. So it's not that we can't imagine that it could possibly happen. And for what we need to understand about the ANC, it is called the African National Congress. It is the ruling political party in South Africa. It has been in power since the end of the apartheid in 1994 when Nelson Mandela became the country's first black president. And it was founded in 1912 originally to fight for the rights of the black South Africans under

the white minority rule. The ANC was the leading force in the anti-apartheid struggle, working both domestically and internationally to dismantle the racially oppressive system. It was banned for decades under apartheid, but operated in exile and underground. And then it was unbanned in 1990, shortly before the official end of the apartheid. In 1994, election victory, the ANC won South Africa's first Democratic election and has remained in power ever since. Obviously, if you only have a 7% white population and you have the rest of that being the black population, you know, the African National Congress is going to win that. And, you know, if we think about South Africa in a whole, there's 7% whites there. it is mostly a, you know, African nation.

It is mostly blacks that live in this region. You know, you have to wonder why are whites ruling and running that country, you know, even during the apartheid. Why were they ruling it to begin with? And so the ANC produced all South African presidents since 1994. So Nelson Mandela, Thiebo, Big Key. Oh, my God, I cannot read these names. Mothelani, Jacob Zuma, and Cyril Rafazan.

And so this has been happening. You know, when Dave Rubin asked this guy, like, can you believe that there would be a government ruling on race? Well, that is literally what happened during the apartheid. And now it's just swung the other way. It's literally the exact opposite. And unfortunately, now this ruling party and people in the party are calling for the killings of whites. So this is not necessarily what happened during the apartheid. although they did cut off a lot of the blacks in this region to social services,

whatever that may be. They weren't calling for the killing of them, but a lot of them did die because of their starvation, yeah, starvation, whatever. And so now it's like we need a revolution. They don't like whites whatsoever being in any control whatsoever in South Africa. And you know, you know who a famous South African is, is Elon Musk. He's South African. But we're just trying to call this out for what it is.

We're not saying, you know, I want to make very clear. We're not here to say that what happened before this was right because it absolutely was not. And it's definitely not right what's about to happen in South Africa because for whoever and how many ever whites that are living in South Africa, many of them are generational South Africans. And it's not like they can just leave and go somewhere else. Just like I was talking about our friends a while ago, they got a visa to come here. Is that you? No, sorry. Go ahead.

Oh. They got a visa to come here and they got to stay for like four years. And then they were forced to be sent back to South Africa. Do you think they wanted to go back? No. Yeah. They wanted to stay here. Yeah.

Let's listen to a little bit more of what this guy has to say. 140 race-based laws in South Africa, all anti-white. And eight days ago, Cyril Ramaphosa, our president, signed in. into law, and just hear these three words, expropriation without compensation. And this is just the straw that broke the camel's back. There's been endless laws, anti-white, boiling us like a frog in a bowl. And all I can say is thank you, America, and thank you Donald Trump for taking notice, because we are on the edge of the socialist abyss. So how do you guys get out of this? Obviously, there's a complex racial history there. How do you reverse some of this?

I mean, that's an awful lot of laws. I don't think we can internally. We have to wait until the 29 national election, and I don't think our economy will survive. It requires some external dynamic to change it. And I think Donald Trump and America taking notice and coming in swinging for the baseball bat may be that dynamic we need.

So when you saw over the last couple years in America wokeness infecting our systems, and suddenly we were focused on race, And we were putting it into, it was this very people who said we were system that were putting racism into the system in a systemic way. It must have given you a little concern about the direction we're going as much as that's now been rolled back. Well, we've been infected in South Africa with the evil, woke mind virus way more than in America. We've got at times two. And there's no momentum in South Africa to reverse it. In fact, it's quite the opposite. So it's been like a miracle

that Trump got elected and he's making these decisions to reverse this wokeness because, you know, South Africa needs a big wake-up call and it isn't going to come internally. What were those three words? It was expropriation with expropriation without compensation. So this is in essence they're taking farms. Well, they can. Yeah. So they haven't implemented yet. It's been signed into law. Yeah. And it's not just farmland. It's property. They can take the watch of my arm and they barely need to justify it.

I mean, I liken it to having a loaded gun in the bedroom with kids running around. At some point, somebody's going to pull the trigger. And that's what this law is. And there's so many other laws in South Africa that are anti-white, race-based, and make it almost impossible for businesses to thrive. But worst of all, we're at less than 1% economic growth, less than 1%. And we have the highest unemployment in the world. That's not sustainable.

40% to unsustainable. And the only way to reverse that is to have, you know, a complete change of plan. To have whites. I'm kidding. No, but that's kind of what he's saying. I mean, I don't want to say this, but that is what he's saying. I mean, let's just be very clear. It's what other way do you say this?

And what we have to understand is that this is South Africa. And if you're only 7% of the population, it doesn't. make a lot of sense to me how during the apartheid, when the whites ruled, you had full and utter control. And not only did you have full and under control, which is weird to me, how you would ever even be able to have full control if you're only 7% of the population, how did they even get into that position without some kind of cheating or election interference fraud, whatever? When most of the country is black, I would doubt highly that they would vote in.

all these white people to control this nation. But, you know, and I'm trying to be like as, as middle of the road as I possibly can. But the problem is like you're 7% of the population. These people want control of their land. And yes, I do understand that there are generational people in South Africa that are white, unfortunately for them, because you now are in a system that does not want you there, it seems like. And especially because of the.

way that the governing body during the apartheid treated the black people in South Africa in basically their own nation. And so you have to ask yourself, like, what is the right answer? Well, number one, it's not murder. It's not killing farmers. It's a balance from the past to the present. Somehow there's got to be an equal balance. And I don't know what equal means in this circumstance.

No. But there's got to be a balance in a way to, like, how do you just take somebody's land that they already own, though. Like, how do you do that? Yeah, and I guess their justification is the only reason they were able to own it is because during the apartheid, none of the blacks during this time were able to own anything, right? They weren't allowed to get access to services. They weren't even allowed to vote.

Not allowed to vote. Yeah, which is, by the way, the answer to my question just a minute ago, if you're not allowed to vote, I wonder how 7% of whites in South Africa were able to take control the government. If the blacks are not allowed to vote, they're not allowed to vote. there's your answer, right? But now it's just reversing. And I don't know what the answer is, but I don't feel like killing is a revolution.

Well, killing of innocent white farmers is the way to go. I don't think that's the way to go. It's not. You know, as Julius Molina said, there's only one way. There's only a certain way to get a revolution. Now, I think that that's not true. And let me tell you why. Because if the African party basically, the African Congress now control South Africa, then you control South Africa.

You don't need to kill whites. And what you should be doing instead is trying to stop the killing of whites or stop the killing or just crime in general because all that's doing is leading your country into the abyss. It is leading your country into collapse. And that is what's happening. And as this guy did say, which he is correct on this, everything in South Africa is collapsing. And it's not because the black party is over South Africa. It's because of the woke ideologies and the socialist economic policies that are being planted into this society that rather than care about your economy or your country, you care about race. You care about how to implement laws based against the whites, based against the farmers.

anytime you try to drown out the farmers in any place, especially predominantly white farmers, you're going to face a lot of problems because you're driving out of the farmers. You then are going to have the United States of America now that are going to tariff the hell out of you. You're not going to be able to do anything in your country. So you've got to figure out a way to actually bring the people together, but that's not what they want. And it's not what the white rulers wanted in South Africa then. No. And I think now they just want the white people gone and out of that.

there. Yeah. And that's what the whites wanted then. And even though there were 7% maybe less when the apartheid happened. But you, you know, you ask yourself, well, how did they have power and control? It's because the blacks couldn't vote. If they would have been able to vote during this time, that wouldn't have happened. It would have never happened in a million years. But it was still not okay to just go to somebody's land or their farm. And I've watched many, many videos of what's happening in South Africa, and this is not a friendly thing. They go basically to their farm, and they get out of their car, and there's like three or four of them, and they beat them with these big, like, rags with rocks in them, and they swing them around, and they're beating

these people, and these people have done nothing to them. Yeah. Like, they own the land. I don't know how they own the land or what, I don't, I don't, all I know is the farmers have the land right now, and they're getting beaten because they own the land. Well, it's not beating. And I, I don't think that is right. No, they're getting beaten to death. Well, they're getting murdered, though. Yeah. To death.

Yeah, they're getting murdered. And most of these farmers have nothing to do with the apartheid. And that's why I always go back to the leadership. The leadership, the leadership is always the ones that are doing the bad shit that then is represented on the people. Yeah. But knowing this and knowing this is going on and it's 7% white people that are farmers that are getting beaten to death on their farms because they own a farm. because they own a farm, why is it so wrong for Trump to give them refugee in America? The refugee status.

Well, you know, I guess because a lot of people are saying, well, you know, during the apartheid, why did America not give a damn about the people there, the black community in South Africa? Now, a lot of those people wanted their land. They wanted to stay in South Africa. This is what they believed was their land. Even if they were given refugee status, would they have came to America? But they never were. And I don't know during this time, it was like early 90s-ish sometime around there.

So that's George Bush Sr., which I don't really love George Bush Sr. Or W for that matter. But, you know, would Trump back in the day if he would have known what was going on in South Africa during the apartheid where the black people were being heavily discriminated against? They were not allowed to vote. The white people controlled the power structure in South Africa. would Trump back then had given the rights in the same, the same thing to the blacks to come over as refugees. And I think also the differences,

at least from what I know or understand, is that I don't think the white party then were killing blacks. But damn, I mean, you might as well, if you basically cut them off from all of the services, you might as well because you're basically doing it already. I mean, they were in refugee camps. They were in camps that they had nothing. And now there are whites in camps in South Africa because they have nothing.

They have no jobs. They cannot make money. They have no food. They have nothing. And this is what's starting to happen in South Africa. It is a complete reversal. And it's like reverse racism. It's like, oh, you were racist to us?

Okay, well, now we're doing it exactly back to you. That's exactly what is happening in South Africa. Now, I do have this clip. And there was an ABC News in-depth report. And these are the same mainstream media outlets. at the very least now that are saying, well, this isn't happening. There's no white genocide. There's no killing of whites.

There's no killing of farmers. None of that. But six years ago, they had a piece. And their title of this piece was white farm murders in South Africa, race, hate, politics, or greed. That was the title of their in-depth report of ABC News. The same news agency now that's saying, oh, my God, this is complete bullshit. No one is being killed in South Africa. There's no whites being killed.

No farmers are being killed. That's all lies. Here's this piece, and we're going to break it down. Listen. Aparate tore South Africa apart. Some say the white oppressors are now the persecuted. White farms are being robbed and farmers murdered. Not only do they kill, but the way they kill, they torture you. The government says they're crimes like any other in a society where poverty breeds violence. There is crime which is affecting everyone, whether black or white. Their victims claim that behind the farm attacks is racial hatred stirred up by politicians.

We've been murdered for some time now they are going to take the land as well. And I think that's very hard to conclude that there's not a racist motive. This is hate. This is political hate. You must say enough is enough. We are taking the future into our own health. Africana farmers, the boers, crossed the Valle River with their oxwagons and flocks. They bought off or fought off the scattered tribes that lived across the river. A century later, any black landowners that remained were forced to leave.

Under the policy of apartheid, the only blacks who were allowed to live here were workers on the white men's farms or in the white men's mines. Keep those weapons on the target. Keep your triangles, gentlemen. Now it's the boers who are feeling understores. siege. Keep your barrel on the target. I want as many barrels pointing at windows as possible. When a farm attacks reported, armed civilians often arrive long before police. Clear? Clear? Windows left. I haven't heard anybody shot if there's somebody in that house. Have we got a

victim there? The guns aren't loaded, but this training exercise is deadly serious. This is what we're seeing right now. We have a contract security company and also civilians. that now have to protect these farms like you are in Afghanistan. I mean, you know, if you're a white farmer in South Africa now, you have to protect your land with your life. And it's not just that. It's that if you don't, then your life is going to be lost. Because when they come, they're going to come.

They're going to do whatever they can to take your life. And I just want to point out what we're seeing here. They're kind of encircling this house in a training mission. But this is a contract security company. that is practicing for an invasion of a farm in South Africa. Move, move, yeah. There might be survivors in the house in desperate need of help, but the criminals might still be in there too.

Ready? Ready? Please. Okay, jens, what you did, Gio, was better than when you were coming through that door. Trevor Roberts's security company, Conserve, used to specialize in guarding wildlife against poachers. You guys are coming around and you tend to turn the weapon. Now, deterring and responding to violent robberies on isolated farms

is his company's core business. As little of your body being shown as possible. A gun battle, he says, is the last thing he wants his volunteers to face. So it's there and then move, move, move. The ideal situation is to rather get the perpetrators out of the house and into the fields. So you'd rather scare them away. Rather scared away and run, and our objective is to save a life, and that would be the victim. An hour's drive southwest of Mulders drift.

On the maize fields around Fockville, on May the 13th this year, nobody was scared away, and nobody's life was saved. 78-year-old Farnie Engelbrecht didn't have time to call for help. When Farnie and his wife, Colleen, didn't show up for Mother's Day lunch, his son, Joanne, strolled 300 meters up the track to his parents' house to investigate. When I came here, my dad's vehicle was standing here. Like he was already back from church, nothing unusual. And I went into the house. As I entered into the wall here, there was a lot of blood lying on the floor here.

And I immediately realized that something is wrong. This is the door they actually broke down to get to her study And I found them lying there tight together Next to each other Right here tied together Yeah, they were tight My dad was lying on his back My mother was lying face down

Hands tight behind behind her back My dad had a big gaping oh like the size of a golf all in his throat. There was a pool of blood here all over. When I, when I touch in me, was cold already. My mother was like face down, but she was still hot, but I couldn't feel a pulse. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I'm in court around my mother's neck. She was obviously, they tortured her. Why do you think they would have done that?

I think they wanted the keys for the safes. They wanted the keys for the vehicles, you know, and they tortured them to get that information out of them. And then they killed them anyway. And then they killed them now when they're done. My dad. the ABC News report. This is six years ago.

And now these same media organizations are saying this isn't happening. And it is happening. 100% it is happening. And what they want to do is they want to set up a race for. This is what is happening on the daily, not just in South Africa, but look at the UK. Look at Ireland. Look at everything that's going on. Wide open borders.

They bring in people with very different cultural beliefs. they bring in people that, you know, maybe don't necessarily care about your country's, I guess, culture or the things that your country believes in. And they bring in these people. They then prop up these people and they criminalize the people that are standing up for their own country. We've seen it in the United States. They desperately try to do that the past four years. But I don't think that's what's happening in South Africa. I think the people that are going against the white people or South Africa.

They are. But so are so many whites in South Africa. I mean, a lot of these whites in South Africa are fifth and ten generations South Africans. They are just as accustomed to the land as the blacks are. But in this particular scenario, because of the apartheid, because of the stuff that happened to this community, now the new ruling government of South Africa is incentivizing and radicalizing their people and they're trying to push for excitement of violence and the killings of whites. And this is what is the problem today in South Africa. This has never been more clear than it is now. The fact that the Trump administration has kind of brought this to light, that's why I've

said, you have to also understand the history to understand where we're at. Now, do you think this is just a land and race war or is this go beyond that as far as religion? You could say, you know, this is against Christians, right? I mean, you could make that argument, I guess. But, you know, you also have to understand that most whites in South Africa are Christians. So is it more of a race war than a religion war? I think it's more of a race war. I think it's more just against whites in this particular instance than it is anything else.

Just the same with apartheid. Was it about their religion back in, you know, the early 90s and late 80s? Or was it about their skin color? And I would think that most people in South Africa, I'm not sure, I have not looked this up, but I would think most black South Africans would be Christians as well. I don't know. I'm not 100% sure, but a lot of them have a very different cultural belief system than, you know, Christianity, I believe. I mean, I'm sure there are definitely black Christians in South Africa.

I don't know what the proportion of Christians versus non-Christians of the black community in South Africa are. I don't know that. Sure. I know you're going to look it up. I am. Because, you know, I don't know. But is this about religion or is this about race? It seems like it's more about race than anything.

We're going to listen to a couple more minutes of this. And then I'm going to talk about who was involved after the apartheid that has also been involved in the United States and the UK. Always said it's not if it's when. Did he? Yeah. He knew it's coming. We all know it's coming. It's just a question of when.

And by the way, to that question, what is? is the black population in South Africa. Well, it is made up of this. Christianity, most widespread religion, roughly 50% of Africans identify as Christian, dominant in southern, central, and parts of Eastern Africa, Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa, and Uganda. Denominations include Roman Catholic, Angelican, Pentecostal, evangelical, and African independent churches or AICs. Then you also have Islam, which is the second most practical religion, about 40% of Africans

are Muslim. It's the strongest in West Africa, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa. And then most follow Sunni Islam with some communities practice in Sufi traditions or Shia Islam in smaller numbers. And that's also if you have heard about these mass killings in Northern Africa or on the Horn of Africa to where these villages of blacks that are Christians are murdered, massacred. It is from the Muslim population that are massacring Christians. And so that happens all the time in Africa. Although we don't know 100% what the makeup of Christianity is in South Africa, at the very least, there is a definite difference in race in South Africa. Yeah, it's a race war and a land war. Yeah. So what I think your answer to the question is, is it race or is it religion? I think it's race. And I think that this is what these people want.

They want a race war. We've talked about this so many times. And it's not just, it's not in South Africa. But when we talk about these people, we got to talk outside the government, Chad, because I don't think the government is the only influence on South Africa. We got to talk about the NGOs. We got to talk about the George Soros, the people that say, oh, yeah, we've got these huge websites and we're out here helping all these people around the world.

and this is what we're doing. And I even went to his website and I looked it up and, you know, it sounds so good on the website. Like they're doing all these great things for people in South Africa. But what are they really doing? Well, George Soros has had massive involvement in South Africa, primarily through the Open Society Foundation OSF. For those that have listened to our podcast over the past year or two, you'll understand about the OSF or Open Society Foundation. and there are also connections to the World Economic Forum through aligned agendas and South African participants. So here's the story on George Soros in South Africa.

Now, the Open Society Foundation for South Africa are also known as OSFSA. They literally have a designation for the Open Society Foundation in South Africa. He established this in 1993 just before the end of the apartheid to support the transition to democracy. is one of the oldest branches of his global network. And so the focus areas of this has funded civil society organizations focusing on human rights, government accountability, media freedom, judicial reform, and racial and social justice. We've heard this continually in the United States. The Open Society Foundation during Black Lives Matter, Antifa, LGBTQ+, all of these mass movements

in the United States has been heavily funded by George Soros. And it's not just George Soros has funded these organizations. He has also funded liberal far-left prosecutors in many far-left cities. We're talking about these sanctuary cities. We're talking about Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, New York. All these places you see a lot of issues. This is where you see these very far-left liberal prosecutors that George Soros has ensured that got elected and put into power in these cities. He has put millions of dollars into these races.

And so they funded all of these things. And then there's a lot of critics to argue Soros-funded groups in South Africa influence the legal system and public policy in ways that align with the globalist or left-leaning agendas. Exactly. That's where I was going to go with you. What is his mission? What is his point? Why is he funding and what is he trying to accomplish?

That is the main goal of George Soros. What does he want done not only in South Africa, but around the world? Well, George Soros has said himself, including with the open, Society Foundation that in South Africa, they are pushing for open borders, land redistribution, and racial equity policies. Now, Soros in the World Economic Forum, Soros is not a formal member of the WF leadership, but he has had a frequent speakership at a WF almost every year in Davos, Switzerland. And he's delivered speeches critical of authoritarianism and nationalism while promoting

global governance, climate action, and open societies. He does not like nationalism. He hates a country that has a culture, a history, a governance, a democratic elected government, a government where the people of the country elect the people that they want to enact policies based on their beliefs. And that would include all people of that country we have to like put out there. Yeah, absolutely. So the WF and OSF often promote similar goals like ESG, which is environmental, social, and governance, sustainable development and equity-based economics.

Several South African elites, including Cyril, Ramaphraza, Trevor Manuel, and Tito Mawabi have been WEF participants, and some have had indirect links to Soros-funded initiatives. So George Soros influences South African primarily through non-government civil society funding and not direct political control. But what we do understand about George Soros and OSF is that they can't. And if they put in the right people in power, if they can place people in power, if they can install leaders in governments, they can then control those countries. And this all goes back to global governance.

So what is the best way to completely upend a nationalist society or governance system? It is to create some type of inner battle or war, such as a race war, such as a political or religious war. You have to do this stuff to completely destroy everything in the fabric. of that nation that you were talking about. Now, with South Africa, it's very interesting because the apartheid, if you just look at that, 7% whites, yet they controlled South Africa. And yet the blacks were not allowed to vote.

Exactly. So we need to make this very clear. This was not a democratic nation of South Africa during the apartheid. And the reason why, likely they did this was because they knew that if you're white and maybe you are more right than like. left because I think that a lot of the community there are more left policy based than right. There's no way you're ever going to win. So that's why they created this apartheid.

They made sure that blacks were not able to vote. They made sure that they had all of these systems put in place to where the blacks were screwed completely. They had to go full force because if you didn't, then it didn't make sense. But that's how they rose to power. And then after this, once it was established and broke it down to politics, the apartheid it was done once it was done now you have this pendulum swing that's been happening ever since 1994 ever since nelson mandela and since nelson mandela it has gotten to a fever pitch

to the point where it's like it's almost okay where it's like well we have seven percent white population now but we want to get rid of all of them like we want to just get rid of them we want to establish a revolution and a lot of these people that are calling for this keep in mind they already have full control of this country. And they're already implementing these same policies that they used to do on blacks during the apartheid. They're doing it on whites now. But it's kind of going a step further because there are people in the party that are calling for the execution and killing of white. But we felt like it was a good opportunity to at least address the situation in South Africa.

And it is a touchy topic. The reality of this is from everything that we have seen. is that whites are being killed in South Africa because of race. And I've seen more than 30 videos just saying, and they said that 39 whites have been killed so far. But I've seen over 30 videos of them being killed on their farms. And their cars are taking all their farm equipment. Everything's been taken. So I know it's way more than 39.

No, there are hundreds and hundreds of white farmers that have been killed. And that's the reason why Trump kind of established this refugee program. from South Africa pretty quickly because it is getting bad quick. So there are going to be people that say that what is happening in South Africa is absolutely not happening. Nothing's going on. No whites are being killed. That's a lie.

That is 100% a lie. You can talk about this topic. You can talk about the fact that our whites being killed indiscriminately that had nothing to do with the apartheid, that their families are suffering. And we're talking about hundreds, if not thousands of whites. that are being killed, and especially because of the call for violence from their own government, and this is going to get worse. That's why they're trying to get those people out of South Africa.

It doesn't excuse the fact because of the apartheid that these whites are being killed, and that's what the left wants you believe. Well, we don't need to bring the whites out because they should be killed because, you know, they were a part of the ruling party during the apartheid. That's not what was happening. These were just people. The ruling party was the ruling party. was the ruling party.

And I almost guarantee you just the same way that George Soros and the Open Society Foundation and these NGOs and the globalist movement, the same way they came in, quote unquote, during the end of the apartheid, I almost guarantee you that they were probably part of the apartheid beginning in the first place. Oh, I'm sure. And I think that's the key. What you have to understand is that oftentimes the globalists will create problems. Yeah.

Divide and. to then create solutions, which the solutions are often worse than the problems that they create. But the entire goal and agenda is to take over and dominate the country because you have to be able to dominate a country that's in chaos. And so how do you start doing this? Well, George Soros has been famously known for creating coups and overthrows of governments. He did it in Ukraine. He did it in various places throughout Africa and excluding South Africa.

He's done it in South America. he's done it in places in Europe. This has happened. He was also one of the ones that kind of did the run on the pound. He was the one that established and created this deficit of money in the UK. He's done all kinds of shit, the run on the banks. He got billions of dollars based on his influence in political and globalist power during the whole situation on the pound, which I don't, you can go look that up. But he does that also with countries.

And it's not just him. It is the World Economic Forum. It is the Bilderberg groups. It is a globalist foundations that create problems that then create solutions that oftentimes are worse than the problems that began. And so the point of this show was to say that is what's actually being told about South Africa actually happening. It is. I think that's beyond doubt. I think that mainstream media has reported this for six or seven, eight years now that Trump is kind of

bringing it into prominence or in the media. Now all of a sudden, none of that's happening. It's all lies. It's all bullshit. It is happening. But you just have to be careful. You have to understand where some of this hatred probably came from from these people in South Africa.

It's been set up. And, you know, if you have had your land taken and you were not allowed to vote, you were treated like a criminal just for your race, that's a problem. And I think that if we can ever get to a point to where we quit caring about race, Problem is, is that the leaders of our governments are always going to create divide. If they cannot figure out a way to divide, then they will not have power. They will not gain more control over you. The only way that the governments will gain more control over the people is by dividing

the people. They want you to focus on something else. Focus on this person's black, this person's white. Focus on this person's Christian or Muslim or Jew. focus on whether they're LGBT or gay or lesbian, focus on if they're poor, rich, famous, not famous. Focus on all of these things while we keep doing our thing

to gain more and more control over your lives. And while you guys are just so dumbfounded by all the bullshit that we're fighting about on a regular basis, we're just going to keep taking more control. And so what I do encourage everybody to do is that I want you to just love everybody as much as you possibly can until they give you a reason that you got to turn away. Because this world is very screwed up. It's a very bad place.

But it was something that our friend Kit actually said in telegram the other day. It says there is only one people and it's God's people. And I do agree with that. And Kit, thank you for that. Yeah. Thank you, Kit. And so if we can ever actually get on board with that sentiment that we're all God's people, we're not black, we're not white, we're not any of this stuff. stuff for God's people.

Yep, we all bleed red. We do. But anyways, guys, until next time, we'll be back very soon. We love each and every one of you, black or white, gay, lesbian, straight, doesn't matter. Peace out, guys. Yeah, peace out.