Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Space Force Huntsville: UFO Disclosure, MH370 Mystery & The Hidden Agenda w/ Ashton Forbes

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Space Force is officially moving its headquarters to Huntsville, Alabama, but is there more to this story than meets the eye? In this episode, we’re joined by Ashton Forbes, the independent researcher known for his groundbreaking investigation into the mystery of Flight MH370, UFO orbs, and advanced zero-point energy technology. We dive deep into why Huntsville, known as Rocket City and the birthplace of NASA’s space program was chosen, and what it could mean for the future of UFO disclosure, secret military technology, and space warfare. Could Space Force’s relocation be tied to reverse-engineered UFO tech? Is MH370 the smoking gun in proving these technologies exist? This is one of our most revealing episodes yet, combining military moves, hidden agendas, and UFO mysteries you won’t hear in the mainstream.Check out our latest merch drop!

Hello and welcome back to Investigator Earth Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're joined by Ashton Forbes, the independent researcher who has been digging deep into one of the greatest aviation mysteries of our time. That is Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. Ashton has put forth groundbreaking theories on zero point energy and the possibility that the plane was literally zapped out of the sky by advanced orb technology. Tech, he believes, that could tie back to wrong government. We'll also get into Donald Trump's latest announcement about moving Space Force headquarters from Colorado to Huntsville, Alabama, and what that means for America's role in space. You don't want to miss this one, guys.

Welcome to the show. It is September the 4th, 2025. Ashton, welcome back, brother. Thank you for having me back, Chad and Sherry. Good to talk to you. Yes, very, very good. I think the last time you're on was June the 5th. June the 5th.

And first, I guess, I guess. I got to ask you, what have you been up to since June the 5th? I mean, we follow a lot of what you do, but man, you're always into something new. Yeah, there's always something new. And now it's nukes. It's all about nuclear weapons and fusion now is that, you know, you guys know me from the MH370 videos, the orb guy, Ashton 4 orbs. And I've been digging into how these plasma orbs were developed and what can they do.

And it's all led back to nuclear weapons. and it's led back to fusion technology and even some of the fusion companies that are actually currently like breaking through right now and getting ready to have commercial public reactors. So I'm pretty excited to give you guys some new updates here tonight. Yeah, for sure. So obviously there's been a lot of talk, especially after Donald Trump recently just announced that Space Force headquarters is going to be moving from Colorado into Huntsville, Alabama. And actually, it was pretty funny, Ashton.

I saw a meme today and someone said, great, can't wait, we're going to have rocket scientist from Alabama. I thought that was kind of funny. Not going to lie. But I did just want to briefly talk about Huntsville, Alabama, because for those that do not know anything about it, it does have a history. It was known as Rocket City. Early foundations, 1940s to 1950s, World War II Legacy, Redstone Arsenal outside of Huntsville was originally built in 1941 as a chemical munitions plant. and then after the war, it became available for military research. Then you think about Operation Paperclip in 1945,

the United States brought over more than 100 German rocket scientists, aka Nazis and engineers led by Dr. Warner Von Braun, who had developed a V2 rocket for Nazi Germany. They were first stationed at Fort Bliss, Texas, and then White Sands, New Mexico, before moving to Huntsville in 1950. And then the Army ballistic missile agency, are also known as ABBA at Redstone Arsenal,

Von Braun's team developed the Redstone Rocket, America's first large ballistic missile. The rocket became the basis for early U.S. space launchers. And then obviously the birth of the space program, 1950s to the 60s, you had the Explorer 1, which was in 1958. That was Von Braun's team launched America's first satellite into orbit using the Juno 1 rocket, which was modified at Redstone. And this was the U.S. answer to the Soviet Union Sputnik. And then NASA founded in 1958, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration was created and then by 1960, the Von Braun's group was transformed from the army to NASA. And then you have Marshall Space Flight Center, also known as MSFC,

established in Huntsville in 1960, named after General George C. Marshall. It became the lead NASA Center for Rocket Propulsion and Large Launch Vehicles. And then you think about the Saturn Rockets. Bonn, and his team designed the Saturn 1, Saturn 1B, and Saturn V rockets of MSFC. The Saturn V was the most powerful rocket ever built and launched every, Apollo mission to the quote unquote moon. So then you think about the Apollo era, the 60s to the 70s, key figures, Warner Von Braun, the director.

He is often called the father of the American space program. And so that was obviously Warner von Braun was a very contentious, I guess, pick from Germany, you know, kind of during World War II. There was essentially a race for scientists from Germany. We wanted to try to get as many nuclear slash rocket scientists from Germany after World War II. I know Russia was also racing to get those same scientists. Many of these were from Nazi Germany. And Ashton, do you believe, you know, Huntsville, Alabama being, do you think, obviously,

this is the kind of foundation of the NASA program? Why is it so such a big move that we're moving out of Colorado back to Huntsville? And, you know, most people hear of Space Force, but like, what do they actually do? Yeah, I mean, that's a big question. Why is Space Force going to be in Huntsville, Alabama, which, by the way, we're renamed. It technically they like to call it Rocket City, but that's a little bit outdated in 2025. So we're going to call it Space Juice City. Space Juice. That's what we're calling zero point energy because we need something easy for people to be able to understand. Zero point energy is just

too complicated. It's just space juice, right? If you want to think about what's the source of all this energy that these UFOs are flying around it, it's space juice. So what is Huntsville, Alabama going to be? Huntsville, Alabama is going to be Space Juice City. And what happens at Space Juice City? Well, you've got NASA Marshal Space Flight Center where they work on fusion propulsion. you've got all the defense contractors have like places out there including L3 Harris and Lockheed Martin. And then you've got this huge military base Redstone Arsenal as well, which is actually where Tom Bearden, the guy that were like popularized scalar physics in the 80s. Lieutenant Colonel Tom Bearden was also based out of Huntsville, Alabama at Redstone Arsenal. So the story goes, mythology goes, this is where they potentially developed anti-gravatational technology.

So if you're looking for disclosure from a technology perspective, this would be the location where it could come from. So I think it's really amazing that Space Force is going back there because you wonder, what does Space Force do? Well, what if we decided that the anti-gravitational technology or whatever or the quantum technologies, whatever we're going to end up calling them, what if we decided like that's under the purview of Space Force? Because Space Force takes care of the space. So I think it's a pretty significant move. And I definitely look forward to seeing, you know, if this leads to any form of disclosure of some of these advanced technologies. The other thing I want to say is that you're, when I've dug into this, I've been trying to figure out what's the history of this technology? How far back does it go?

You're right on the mark. It goes back to the Nazis. Maybe we've brought this up. It's not just a conspiracy theory. Project Paperclip was real. One of the scientists that came over from Project Paperclip was Fryeart Winterberg. And he's one of the authors of those durs, those defense intelligence reference documents, the most important scientific papers that I talk about all the time.

Hal Poodoff is the one who commissioned them through the Defense Intelligence Agency. And their paper is about negative mass propulsion, which is basically warp drives. There is one literally about warp drives and extra dimensions. Another one about traversable wormholes. One's about extracting quantum energy. There's ones about magneto hydrodynamic air breathing magneto hydrodynamics, which is pretty much how do you make your plasma fly through the air? And so Frybert Winterberg was one of these project paperclip scientists.

I decided to read his textbook that's, I believe the exact name is like the principles of thermonuclear detonations or explosions because I wanted to learn about nukes. And on page one, actually right on the cover, right on the cover of the book. It's got a picture of a nuke going off. In the bottom right corner, it says inertial confinement fusion is the secret to unlimited green energy for the world. right there on the top, right around the cover. And in the introduction, it says right there is the forward, says that inertial confinement fusion is the secret. Turns out that we classified it because it was part of thermonuclear weapons.

And if we had unclassified it, potentially we would have fusion energy right now. And this is what Frywart Winterberg's apparently his whole life was for this. He was one of the experts in inertial confinement fusion. And I was just talking to a guy right before this, actually. that went to his house. He passed away a couple years ago, I want to say. And his daughter gave them permission to go through all the notes. He scanned as much as he could.

Apparently, Frider at Winterberg was, he wanted this stuff to come out. And he ended up losing his clearance because of some of the stuff that he was saying and doing equations and actual numbers, which is the thing that they don't really want you to do. And he ended up getting a lower level clearance back. And then he even got that revoked later on. And they ended up ransacking his dad. desk in office to see if he was like posting or writing anything that was potentially classified related to nukes.

But this is a guy that's relatively unknown. So I'm trying to get this guy's name out there so people realize that he deserves a lot more credit. And most of his work has probably been classified over the years. But what I think is going on is that they figured out fusion a long time ago. And they figured out related to nukes. And they use the project paperclip scientists to figure that out. And this is the reason why we haven't seen a video of a nuke since 1961.

Yeah. Well, I mean, have you ever thought about, I mean, obviously in the UFO space, everybody has wondered why Germany, Nazi Germany was so far advanced for their time. And the fact that the United States after World War II was rushing to get these scientists over, which is literally how we founded NASA was, you know, Warner Brown Brown. But like, why was Germany so advanced? Do we have any clue? As anything that you've read, point to any reason why they were more advanced than the rest of the world at that time? I don't know about why, but I can tell you that the stories are that they had like the die glock. And this was supposedly like one of the first UFO craft that was produced. I think there was a lot of, I don't know if like pagan or satanic kind of like, you know, stuff that they were also into. The lore around that, I leave to others. But the dieglock aspect, the story goes, they were using spinning mercury. Now, this is interesting because metals can actually be considered a plastic. plasma because their electrons are so free.

The electrons move around relatively easily in metals. So actually, metals are closely related to plasma, even though it doesn't seem like it because metal seems like a really solid object. And you can actually change your, if you change the frequency of your plasma waves, you can actually make it either transparent or more metallic solid, depending on your, the frequency, the higher, lower frequency that you potentially hit. If you hit the right resonance or what have you. And so if this is the case,

they may have been using like spinning mercury to produce anti-gravitational effects. That's how the story goes. Well, what if we got rid of the die-glock and now we just have our spinning ball of mercury? That could explain why people were seeing or are seeing right now, orbs that seem like they're made out of metal. Or maybe when they are no longer running, they become, you know, like a metal ball, for example. Yeah, something that can almost kind of transform. Well, last night we had Bart Seibel on and obviously Bart Sebrill wrote the book,

moon man and he's one of the big guys that has exposed what he believes to be a fake moon landing. And one of the things that I asked him last night, even though he didn't necessarily follow the MH370 topic or discussion, but you know, what he kind of went back to was, and I know this is like you said, you leave this stuff for other people, but you think about the watchers, the book of Enoch, the fallen angels, all this stuff that allegedly they had taught to people at one point in time, which was, you know, biblically, that's kind of why the flood potentially happened, was the mix between the fallen angels,

the 200 plus fallen angels, that then, you know, took human women and sex with them, created a Nephlem, the offspring. Those Nephlam also gave them advanced, I guess you could say advanced technology back then. But it's interesting you said that about Germany because, you know, if this pagan slash satanic type, maybe worship or I guess dabbling into that,

what if what if they were contacted by some of these orbs UFO things and the more we've talked about it over the years the more I think that you know and a lot of people said this the more I think that the UFO technology is not necessarily little green men from other planets but some type of technology we've been given from that spiritual interdimensional realm and I think even with a lot of what you research ashen as far as being able to cross planes or wormholes or any of this stuff, could those things, could these evil spirits, could these spirits in general exist in those planes, if that makes sense? That's a good question.

And I was actually just talking to this great researcher named Jared Yates. He's a part of this APEC, it's called. It's an alternate propulsion engineering conference, I think is what it stands for. You guys can check out their videos. He did a really good deep dive on the TR3B that I reviewed. And it includes some of this this Nazi stuff as well. And what he and I were actually just kind of debating discussing was like the temporal problem, as Lou El Zondo puts it, which is even if we can, you know, date when they would have been able to reverse engineer this. And both he and I both are in the same kind of ballpark where we're thinking between like the 80s and 2000s, when they would have started to really have major material science advancements where they could, we could produce some stuff that looks like alien craft.

But you can't really explain stuff like the foo fighters. in like the 20s. Like, how do you explain that? You know? So, and so there are a lot of different ways to answer the question. You could say, okay, it's aliens in the past. You could say that we can figure out time travel and then we ended up going to the past. And then now you can also say some of the narratives that are currently brewing that you kind of just spoke to is this whole interdimensional

aspect. And I think the real thing that we have to demystify right away is what does interdimensional even mean? Okay. So I'm going to tell you my. I'll tell you what my heart tells me, and then I'll also tell you what my brain says as well. My heart tells me I don't really know. Basically, everything's on the table. You could have multiple universes where we have multidimensional travel where you can go to a different universe that's similar to us, except for their minor differences.

Kind of like Rick and Morty, if people are familiar with that TV show. So that would be like if there really is a multiverse, then almost everything is possible. Everything is possible. And there's a universe where everything is happening. That's what I want to be true. My brain, though, tells me that it's a lot simpler than that. My brain tells me there's no retro causality. There's no going back in time.

There's only one reality. And there is technically an extra dimension, but it's not a place you go and visit and hang out in. The extra dimension is a shortcut. The extra dimension is the nothingness, the true emptiness of space time. And that all space time, as we see it, is like the paint spread across that canvas. And the only is why distance exists at all is because of that zero point energy. that paint that we're spreading across that canvas. And so the extra dimension would be if you remove that zero point energy,

you displace yourself from this space time. You're temporarily not in this space time anymore. But just like in the MH370 videos, that plane shows up somewhere else. So that would mean you can just reappear anywhere you want because you're outside of our current dimensions in that brief instant in which that happens. But you will be pulled right back.

That's the trick. So in my opinion, the idea of extra-dimensional aliens is not these aliens from the Dizarro dimension. It's just that they're from somewhere else in this perceivable universe and they have the ability to essentially jump through a portal or to skip through space. The correct way to really think of it would be to think of it as removing the barrier. It's an invisible barrier that we don't see between where you're sitting right now or I'm sitting.

And if you want to understand this, just think of it in terms of pressure. work is the removal of removal of resistance so if I remove the pressure of a balloon it's going to expand seems counterintuitive but that would happen and if you want to understand it better imagine that you're leaning on me you're leaning up against me

the reason why I don't move is because there's a force pushing back against you now if I were to move out of the way they'll remove the resistance you're going to go flying right because you're pushing up against me that's the same idea as removing the zero point energy. The zero point energy is the barrier between where you are and where I'm at. Yeah. It is the thing that causes that inertia. So if you remove that resistance, even for a

brief moment, you've now jumped dimensions, but technically you're still really in, you're going to come back to the same dimension again. So that's what my brain tells me to you guys out there, according to the physics. So this guy that you talked to tonight, APEC guy with the alternate propulsion engineering conference. What, what, what kind of led you to this guy? And what was the purpose of your conversation? Because I know that you said that he didn't necessarily want to go public 100%. But, you know, what was your conversation about? And what did it kind of lead you to what even led you to reach out or vice versa?

Oh, I mean, I wanted to have him come on my podcast because of the TR3B research that I thought had a lot of crossover. Yeah. And I think that the reality is like the MH370 videos are still very controversial. I mean, you know, there's probably a lot of people listening right now. They've been debunked a million times. So sorry to tell you, but the videos are definitely 100% real. You can believe whatever you want. It's going to take a while, but people are going to start to wake up to it.

But they're very controversial and there's pretty heated opinions on both sides. And so I think in general, people are worried about, you know, are people going to attack them if they have a certain opinion or, you know, just the social pressures of those types of things? But he was happy to talk to me. We had a very cordial conversation. I've known about him because I had seen him work with Tim Ventura, who's also with APEC. and they went to Fryward Winterberg's house when I first learned about the guy. And so I had known about them then. But I've also watched a lot of these presentations because I truly believe that the APEC presentations are kind of where some of these, let's say, like, you know, the anti-gravity, free energy stuff gets shown where probably, you know, the intelligence agencies are watching and seeing what these guys are doing.

Because they're essentially the people who are the closest to figuring out free energy and all this stuff from the public realm on the non-classified. side. So I always enjoy listening to the presentations that those guys are doing because it's, it's always very heavy on the, on the science and the physics and not super into the woo. Although there are, you know, stuff about consciousness and things like that that they talk about too. Yeah. And I do want to play a video real quick. And this is a video and we can break it down and talk about it after the fact. But this is essentially a video where this woman and tell me who this person is, right? Yeah, let me set it up for you because I think you're going to Played the Amy Eskridge video.

Yes. And Amy Eskridge was highly connected to all the APEC guys. And her dad is Richard Eskridge of NASA Marshall Space Flight Center, which is the place we were talking about in Huntsville and Alabama just a second ago. And he's worked on fusion plasma plasma plasma fusion propulsion. You guys can look up his papers out there. In fact, her dad, Richard Eskridge, worked closely with John Slow, who is now, he was the founder, one of the co-founders of Helion Fusion, which is.

is now getting huge funding from Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, and some other big names out there. So keep an eye on that one. But Amy Eskridge, she started a institute that essentially, from her own words, I think the clip will also show this. She wanted to get anti-gravity out to the world. It's not really anti-gravity. She calls a gravity modification. But she wanted to get this out to the world.

And what happened a few years ago, she had passed away. there is some conspiracy theories about whether or not she was taken out versus if she committed suicide and i'll just tell you my personal opinion is that i've been told by several people that it was not a suicide but i don't have any reason to no hard evidence for anything to say otherwise i know that her her family is officially doesn't want people talking about it and you know says it was a suicide or what have you but you got to come to your own conclusions on that front so what happened though was after this all occurred. I was researching her a couple years ago.

Well, I think soon after that, Mississippi Zero video stuff happened. And then another APEC person named Jeremy Reese leaked a video that he had a meeting with her and Mark Sokel, who was, I believe, one of her ex-boyfriends or maybe a current boyfriend at the time, not sure. And in this whole conversation, she's obviously drunk, maybe doing some other stuff as well. I don't know if she knew the whole thing was recorded.

I don't think she expected it, you know, to be released after her death or what have you. But in this video, she makes a lot of claims. And she is naming people's names that work on some of these supposedly black projects. She's talking about people like Hal Pudoff, Louis-Azondo, literally says how Pudov is evil, like an evil old man, but a nice old man that's like an evil guy. Talking about how unification of gravity and electromagnetism has been solved like five different times and it just gets suppressed every time. and how supposedly she's being told that she's going to be the one who's allowed to do it. And then at the same time,

she's saying half the people are telling me that I'm going to be allowed to do it. And the other half the people are saying, like, didn't we tell her that we're going to kill her? Like, didn't we tell this bitch that we're going to kill her? No, she literally says this in the thing. So I'm watching this as somebody who's just fresh into the whole anti-gravity conspiracy.

And I'm going, holy crap. Like, she's dead now. And like she was saying all this. so I just start clipping it all up. And I made like three or four clips and they basically all went viral. People still post them every few months. And I can tell they're ripped from me because of the old caption style that I used to do. But I'm happy to get her word out because I truthfully believe even if you don't believe everything she says, based on who her dad was, based on where she was living, stuff that she was connected to.

I think that she absolutely was exposed to advanced technology. and you can just imagine the mental toll this would have on especially a younger person that grows up in this environment where you realize like the whole world is fake and everybody's just oblivious to it like just imagine the psychological toll that has on someone so whatever happened to her it's tragic either way and I think that her memory lives on and her spirit lives on with us yeah we'll play the video right now here is amy escerge on huntsville Alabama and talking about some other things listen disclosure is going to come out of huntsville Alabama out of Redstone Arsenal.

Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama is the biggest fucking deal that you've never heard of. It's the biggest fucking deal that you have never heard of. Because the fact is that we have deep and wide, extensive credibility that no one knows about because you're not supposed to know about it. Because it's in Alabama, it's obscure. You're not supposed to know about it. That's the point. People that don't know what.

Huntsville is. Amy, you know what Huntsville is? Is that what you're saying? People don't know what Huntsville is.

Huntsville is the biggest fucking deal on the planet that you have never heard of. Now, like, Huntsville is the Silicon Valley of government national security technology

and intelligence community technology and aerospace technology. Huntsville is like the hub. Like, we are number three on the first strike launch list. If first strike happens, three targets

Huntsville will be one of them a la fucking bad map ala fucking Bama this is Alabama dude in the deep south we're in the top three first strike we're in the top three first strike because you haven't heard of us that's why it's on purpose

I started the Institute for one reason one reason the Institute I started it as a public facing persona to disclose anti-gravity technology through because I told Mark this. If you stick your neck out in public, at least someone notices if your head gets chopped off. If you stick your neck out in private, fuck you. They will bury you.

They will burn down your house while you're sleeping in your bed and it won't even make the news. There you go. And so that's essentially what's talking about Huntsville, Alabama, which, by the way, Ashton, I'm glad that you are public facing at least because, you know, and this is, like it's so many times we hear about stuff like this to where she's literally saying like the reason why I came public to this is that I didn't want my head chopped off but maybe that is possibly what happened. I mean, what was her? What was her thing? Like why was she in Huntsville, Alabama? You might have talked about this a little bit, but like who is she? I know you talked about her dad.

Her dad kind of had a big role as well. But like what is her importance to zero gravity? or just her research. Was she a government contractor? What was Amy Eskridge? Yeah, I don't know exactly about her what kind of contracts she had, but she was a polysy. So she was like chemistry, biology. And then I think she went to go get her master's and maybe PhD after that. In terms of what she was trying to do, she started that institute and did several presentations

like with her dad. So it definitely seemed like she was kind of groomed for that life, that science life. and that probably because her dad was on the inside, you know, and Huntsville, Alabama, as she says, it's not even just rockets that's intelligence and surveillance equipment too. Like all the defense contractors have major presences out there. And that's why they're putting in Space Force there because it's going to be next to all those things as well. She was going to reveal anti-gravity, a scientific paper about anti-gravity.

It never got published for people who are wondering. So we don't even really know all about that either. but anti-gravity in general, I think, is a misnomer because really what causes gravity is the spacetime distortions, which even Einstein agreed with that. The gravity is the bending the curvature of space-time, but it's a little more complex than that. It's just actually the manipulation of the zero-point energy

in a certain region of space-time. So it really is exactly as we perceive it. There's nothing wrong with how we perceive gravity, but you don't anti the gravity. Gravity is just a pressure force. It's simply a pressure force. So how do you make an anti-pressure force? You just make a pressure force in the other way, other direction.

So like anti-gravity, it's a misnomer. It would be like trying to say that a balloon is anti-gravity because the balloon goes up. No, that's not exactly it, right? It's a little bit more complicated than that. And that's why I think she spoke to it in terms of gravity modification. And that's why you hear me talk about it in terms of gravity manipulation or gravity modification as well, is that we really have to think about it and talk about it in the right way. if we want to have, you know, PhD physicists and academics take us seriously.

Because if you say it in the type of way where it's like, oh, I'm negating, I'm shielding the gravity, well, not really. You're just making a counterforce to whatever the force is that we are currently feeling of gravity on a specific location. And then with respect to what happened with her, I'm not going to go into the exact details, but I'll say that she made several videos about claiming that she was being attacked by directed energy weapons. And this is the part where it's hard to figure out, you know, what's the true story

behind it? Because, again, the psychological aspect of knowing about these kinds of technologies, you're like, okay, you know they've got directed energy weapons. Yeah. And the public has no idea. So could you think that you're being attacked by one when you're not? Yeah, maybe. But you could also really be in being attacked Y1 or being threatened and what have you.

So I don't really know on that. I know that she was definitely troubled by that type of stuff. So if she decided to take her own life, what have? you or if something happened. I mean, I can see either scenario being completely realistic. I mean, you could even say that her dad would cover it up because of her position. You know, he would know the situation where it's like, sorry, it had to happen. You got to deal with it.

I mean, it's probably crazy for fathers out there to think about that. But this is the true nature of the world of these black projects that we live in is, you know, I personally believe that it is the power source of UFOs of anti-gravity has to be nuclear power, which means it's related to nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons uh you know releasing nuclear weapon secrets is punishable by the death penalty so i wouldn't be surprised at all if people have even nDAs that have these clauses in them that like you can't say anything it's not that we're going to come after you civilly like we can put you in the ground yeah yeah that's that's so interesting and it's almost like you know huntsville alabama is it going to be the next area 51 i do want to play

this quick clip this was the actual trump announcement just the other day about huntsville Alabama, listen. Very much. It's a very important day and an important announcement with great friends of mine. I think I can say this group is every one of them. I rate a 10. I can't always say that, even if they're Republicans, and these are Republicans, great Republicans.

I want to thank you all for being here for this important announcement, seven years in the making. As you know, this has been going on for a long period of time. and I am thrilled to report that the U.S. Space Command headquarters will move to the beautiful locale of a place called Huntsville, Alabama, forever to be known from this point forward as Rocket City. Okay, so Huntsville, Alabama. We love Alabama. I only won it by about 47 points. I don't think that influenced my decision, though, right? That didn't, right?

But we had a lot of competition for this, and Alabama is getting it. Huntsville in particular. So congratulations, everybody, Katie, congratulations. This will result in more than 30,000 Alabama jobs, and probably much more than that, and hundreds of millions of dollars of investment, and that's billions, because it can't be millions. It's billions and billions of dollars. Most importantly, this decision will help America defend and dominate the high frontier,

as they call it. I want to thank Secretary Pete Hankseth. He's doing a fantastic job. And Secretary of the Air Force, Troy Mink, Troy, thank you. And so they wanted to make this, you know, obviously very public. This was a huge move by Space Force, which Donald Trump created, you know. And as we've already talked about, like, what the hell does Space Force do? I mean, are they guarding space?

Are they utilizing weapons in space? which obviously for so many people believe that, you know, the forefront of the battle when it comes to nuclear war would be in space, right? Ashton, is that kind of how you see this? Heck, we were even saying that back at the Star Wars initiative with the SDI back in Reagan days. Like that was actually what the nuclear physicists that were like on the Manhattan Project were saying is they were trying to put nuke lasers in space. Like that was they were actually trying to use nuclear fusion lasers.

So they were going to create a fusion ignition. and then focus it and then have beam it onto people. Like that was the conceptual view. Now publicly, the way the story goes is it didn't go very well or what have you. They never really worked out. But if you actually look at like how geopolitics played out, like we didn't, the Cold War just kind of ended and the Soviet Union just fell apart, like completely fell apart. So one of the things I've been wondering lately is like what if we figured out from fusion bombs

in the 60s? and then, you know, the Cold War in the 70s, what if we figured out space time manipulation? And we just won the Cold War. We, like, quietly won the Cold War because Russia had no chance once we had, you know, teleportation technology directed energy weapons. And then we've been, you know, basically hiding it and controlling the world basically ever since. That's just one thought I have.

But I do want to go back real quick to something Amy said about space juice city, Huntsville, Alabama, which is third on the first strike list. What's the hell? You guys know what that means? That means out of all the places on the country that are going to get hit by Russia's nukes or China's nukes or whatever, Huntsville is number three. I mean, D.C. is number one. So I don't know what number two is, but Huntsville,

Alabama is number three. Yeah, well, it's because that's where Space Forces is where Lockheed Martin's manufacturing facilities are at. That's where we've got our intelligence and research and development at. So, like, just think about how significant that is. I always heard number two was Colorado. Yeah, I think Colorado might be number two. Yeah.

And there's a lot of stuff in Colorado, right? I mean, there's a lot of underground. Secret stuff and mountains and all kinds of stuff. Yeah, but, you know, I'm sure Huntsville is about to be moved up to probably number two after the, you know, after the announcement of Space Force going to Huntsville, Alabama. But I wanted to briefly talk about Amy Eskridge and the microwave direct energy weapons because I think this is something that most people don't understand. What are direct energy weapons? I mean, number one, they're essentially systems that emit highly. focused energy, right?

So in the form of microwaves, lasers, particle beams. And they usually use these to disable damage or kill targets. So you're talking about like high energy lasers, for example, used to blind sensors, drones, take down missiles. Then you got the HPMs or the high power microwaves. I mean, burst of microwave radiation that can disrupt electronics. But then you think about Havana syndrome, which is kind of what Amy had hinted on before. And what Havana syndrome is, it started in 2016, that we know of.

of anyway. And that was when U.S. diplomats and CIA officers in Havana, Cuba reported sudden symptoms, dizziness, headaches, nausea, memory loss, vision, hearing problems. And they felt like it was a directional sound or pressure sensation that was being utilized on these officers. Cases have since been reported in China, Russia, Europe, Washington, D.C., and other locations, and hundreds of U.S. officials are now believed to have experienced it. And they're thinking that they believe it could be caused by a high-powered microwave weapon, named at individuals, where microwave exposure can cause the auditory phenomenon known as fray effect, where victims perceive clicking or buzzing sounds without external noise whatsoever.

And then it gets into the sonic weapon deal to where originally speculated by acoustic science shows that the audible sound alone likely couldn't cause brain injuries reported. But some intelligence reports suggest a psychological component, though the theory doesn't explain brain injury evidence in medical scans. but did you ever hear ashton also about and maybe you can break this down from a science perspective where um i guess you can say when tugger carlson went on and he went on many podcasts and he talked about he knew of probably two or three hundred at least military members that had experienced or came close to these orb type of things so whether they were UFOs uapes they

often described them as UFOs uapes but whenever they would get near these things in battle usually because they would often show up in Afghanistan or Iraq or whatever, and they would come close to these. They would have massive and traumatic brain injuries. Some of them died. Some of them just were complete vegetables for the rest of their life. The government was not willing to pay their families or get them any actual VA care because of what they actually experienced.

If you, let's go back to MH370 for a second and say that we're around these orbs, right? These orbs that we see in the videos of MH370, or even just the concept of the anti-gravity propulsion or zero point energy. With that as a human being, if you got near something like that, when it's active, how would that affect you physically or would it? I mean, does it emit radiation in a way or energy? Yeah, I mean, nuclear reactions emit neutrons, which are extremely damaging. And the type of fusion that they're trying to work on is a neutron fusion,

which would be like a clean, non-damaging fusion that doesn't really. at least neutrons. Neutrons are generally where the heat is coming out of as well. So when we think of nuclear energy, generally what we're really talking about is heating up water and then boiling it and having to make steam and then spinning a turbine. And the reason why it heats up is the neutrons.

The neutrons cause the heat. So an an neutron fusion reaction then would be one in which you have minimum number of neutrons, not very much heat, potentially wouldn't be that much damaging, but there's another aspect too, is that you're going to potentially have radiation coming off in the form of x-rays. So you might have x-rays being released.

In fact, that's what I think is happening with those weird dark lines before and after the orbs, is that those are the axial jets and the plasma. So axial jets meaning like the earth. So you imagine the earth, you've got the poles and the earth. And so at the top and the bottom, you've got these x-rays beaming out. You don't want x-ray shooting at you,

just like you don't want to go to the radiologist and without the lead vest, right, and get your chest x-ray done. So I think it could be very damaging. I absolutely believe Havana syndrome is real because the science of scalar physics and all of this stuff is absolutely real as well. And that means that our veterans, just like you mentioned, our service members, they don't have a diagnosis code with which to get accurate care because they've got these conditions. But everything you order in healthcare, that's actually my normal job is healthcare. You have to have a diagnosis code for why you're ordering that, why you're doing that so that we know it's real appropriate care.

care for a human being. But if you don't have a diagnosis code, then how can you treat somebody? How can you say this is the thing that we have to do for them? This is the diagnostic we have to perform. And then how is this working? How does this function? The people believe a directed energy weapon is just like me shooting a laser at something, which technically true.

But they've been able to take it to the next level where a scalar beam would be where we take two waves and we perfectly have them out of phase so that if they were to overlap, they perfectly cancel out. Normal conventional physics would say, well, if you do that, there's nothing there. You've canceled out your two waves. There's nothing left. But that's not really true. And the concept of the zero point energy and the concept of this ether, space time energy

around us, yes, you've canceled your waves out, but now you still have the ripple effects of the medium itself that you created when you created the waves. There's still this component, this scalar component. And this is what was thrown out of Maxwell's, a question. equations when they reduce them. This is why you'll hear people talk about Maxwell's equations being incorrectly reduced is they throughout this scalar component, this ripple in the medium. So when you create this beam that cancels out, and you can use a like nowadays, you can just use a crystal and it'll just do that. You shoot your laser into the crystal and now you've got a

scalar beam coming out the other way. So now you take two of these scalar beams, two of these invisible scalar beams and you intersect them at a distance, however far you want. Then what happens? Well, then you create interference. You create interference between your two invisible waves. And what can happen at the point where they interfere? The energy can reappear there. The energy can appear there and it looks like it's being teleported. This is really the same concept as quantum entanglement.

It's the same exact science behind that. But now, what would this allow you to do? This would allow you to shoot somebody with energy at a distance, potentially through solid matter. And this is what these people who are experiencing this of Aniston in my reporting. And what was it that you just read off? You said, they experienced a pressure.

Well, what did I just say that gravity is? It's a pressure force. Right? So what would I expect it to feel like if you're getting hit by the one? It's probably like a weird pressure in your brain or wherever they're shooting these beams at you, you know? And it might also just be something simple like an acoustic weapon because we can even see acoustic levitation.

How can we levitate something with a sound wave? Sound waves aren't thought to be mechanical, but maybe they actually. are. And this also leads to one last thing I want to bring up, which is sonoluminescence. Another real experiment. I love real experiments that classic physics either can't explain or struggles to explain. We can take sound waves and do what I was just saying, like create a scale or put them in phase and have them hit each other in the middle of water, just water.

And all of a sudden, light forms. How can I shoot two sound waves into a, in a bucket of water? and then have light form. Well, the way that happens is it creates cavitation. It creates a bubble and the bubble collapses and light is formed. And this is where people immediately thought, wait, is that like fusion? Like, is that like a star? What's going on there?

And how can sound be doing something like that? So if sound can do that, then I definitely don't want to get hit by an acoustic weapon either. Yeah. And they also say these microwave weapons. So this of Vanisiderm, I guess, moves at the speed of light. right so they believe that this is the fast travel of what this energy weapon is doing so it's very interesting amy escridge you know she literally talked about like hey this this could be my demise but i'm going to talk about it and it's always interesting too you mentioned her father to where

you said her family came out and was like hey look she killed herself move on let's not talk about it anymore um it kind of also reminds me of uh virginia jew free which you know that supposedly got in a car accident and she was, you know, some big time. Well, she was, she was one of the victims of the Epstein stuff that now Trump is calling a hoax for whatever reason. But either way.

Ashen, tell me to like what, what has been new as far as the NRAC tree 70? Has there been anything new? Like, what are you working on primarily now as far as the, um, zero point energy stuff?

What are you primarily focused on right now? Well, actually right before we get that, I want to go back to, the space thing and space force, right? Is that if you look at the evolution of war, you know, land superiority was first important. And then ocean superior, sea superiority was super important. And then what came along?

Air superiority came along and obsoleted pretty much both of those things. And then what's the next evolution? Well, it's pretty obvious, right? Outer space. Outer space is the next thing that you want to. If you control outer space, you control the planet, essentially. Especially if you have things like directed energy weapons, things that can just beam at the speed of light and appear somewhere. You know, now you can just control the planet.

Somebody shoots a nuke at you. You can zap the nuke out of the from outer space, probably within a second of it taking off. You know, just to think about the power of outer space. And I also want to bring up the Golden Dome because Trump mentioned that as well. I mean, I think people think this is science fiction. They already have it, guys. If they're talking about it publicly, they've already got it. And the golden dome is kind of like the iron dome, right?

Oh, it's going to be way better than iron dome. Because our dome is going to have directed energy weapons. The iron dome, they say, is missiles shooting out other missiles. But I've been watching those videos of Israel. And I don't see projectiles hitting these missiles that are coming in at like hypersonic speeds. So I think they're probably using some form of directed energy weapon, at least in combination with interceptor rockets on that. But our golden dome is going to be a interconnected network, defense network, essentially, that will combine things like Sibbers, which I've spoken about several times.

So it'll be able to track. First, it'll be able to identify whenever a ICBM goes off instantly. It'll be able to create an action plan on how to intercept and what it's going to do and probably use AI to automatically deploy defense resources, like the orbs in the MH370 video, for example. Or just hit it with a directed energy weapon and detonated it on the spot. So our Golden Dome is going to be much more powerful. And it's going to incorporate our satellites, ground-based systems. it's going to incorporate probably multiple different types of weapons and interceptor and counter

measures as well. So I think people should not be sleeping on that at all. And if our allies don't want to get involved on that, then they're losing out for sure. Because whoever controls space is going to control this planet for the next, who knows, 100,000 years or something like that. And so you think, though, the United States is far advanced. Do you think the United States is more far advanced than any other country right now, including Russia, China, any of those?

or do you think that China potentially has systems like we do for defense? They're definitely working on it. Definitely, definitely. And China figured out about the MH-370 videos probably back in 2014. So they've had 10 years to catch up. And if you look at what they've been doing the last 10 years, it's not surprising. They're getting really advanced. In that front, I would say, don't listen to my opinion on that.

Listen to Trump. I think Trump is being 100% truthful about all the stuff he says about the weapons. When he says we have weapons nobody understands, When the science advisor goes up and says, our technology allows us the ability to manipulate time and space, he's not, that's just 100% truthful. And so Trump also said in that same, a little bit after that clip, I think, that you played earlier,

he says that China's like five years behind us on this. I would say they could be that close. Salvatore Paiz has been telling me privately and in some cases publicly that he thinks that China is working on this too and that they're going to get close. That's what he's kind of worried about. So I don't think they have the same level of technology that we have, but they know about the physics. And they're working on it as well. And they're working on their own fusion reactors and plasma stuff as well.

And I think when they're showing off their drone tech, it's kind of like a message of like, hey, look what we can do now. Look how many, you know, drones we can sync up. And because that's really the next level is once you've gotten, you know, three orbs that can spin around a plane and manipulate space time, the next question is, okay, how many such? the three orbs can you deploy at once, right? Can you deploy a thousand sets of orbs at once? Yeah. Because you can imagine, like, one of the examples I like to tell people. Or some people will say, like, what can you do with this technology?

Like, scare me. Okay, let me scare you guys for a second. Time travel may not send you back to 1959 or whatever, but it can potentially displace you from time. And what I mean by that is it can change your dial of time. So imagine, like, slowing somebody down or speeding, up their aging process. Imagine like Indiana Jones and the, what is it?

Crap, I can't remember which Indiana Jones. And when he drinks the cup, right? And he ages and becomes a skeleton. Imagine doing that to somebody. But imagine from their perspective, their time's moving normally. They're just looking at everything else looks frozen. And then they're just aging and they just starve to death and they're stuck inside of a space time bubble that can't get outside of.

Right. Or you imagine, you know, the opposite, which is you send somebody to the future. where you put somebody in a bubble, you put them through a wormhole. And when they come out on the other side, you've changed a rate of time so much that it's a thousand years in the future. You just send somebody to the future.

They're gone. Everybody they ever knew about is long gone. In fact, they're like 10 generations later on. I mean, that would, I mean, that's a fate worse than death, right? So now imagine that we want to shock a country. Like, let's say Russia shoots a weapon at us or what have you, right? Now, let's just say in response, all of a sudden, every single airplane over Russia vanishes off the face of the earth and is never, ever seen ever again.

We literally use orbs and zap every single commercial airliner that Russia has. That's the kind of horrific, like, atrocity that we could pull off. And that would immediately end any war, right? The moment you do that to somebody, you're going to demoralize them to a level of, where they're done right like you in that's it and that's just one example off the top of my head i'm sure the CIA sits around coming up with sick stuff like that with like 10 different things they could do right so even though this weaponry is probably not what people would expect it to be from a physics perspective to me it's even scarier and when people ask me like what do you think's going to

happen if this technology gets out i'm not going to lie to you guys i think it's the end of the world I think that this technology is just so powerful. And I think that's part of the reason, a good part of the reason, and why they've been hiding it. They've been hiding it because it's not just nukes anymore. Now we're talking about stuff that's just way scarier than nukes and way, way, way more powerful. And that's what Trump said. He said, you know, if you were scared about nukes, you have no idea what we have.

And saying that, I just want your actual opinion as far as where do you think this technology came from? Do you think it was just all these smart people that are like you that just came up with all this? Or do you think it actually came from some kind of other life form? Great question. Jared and I were just talking about that too. It's such a hard thing to answer because out of all the papers I've read, they never reference aliens or reverse engineering crafts or anything like that. But that doesn't mean that's not where they got the inspiration from, you know, and science is a matter of building on the past. So one of the other things he and I were talking about is like these orbs are not like somebody just dreamt up the orb and just built it. No, this is like those orbs represent like decades of advancements in black projects to lead up to these orbs that are plasma balls that can fly around on their own.

But then you also have this issue of like we were seeing stuff like the foo fighters and like the 20s. So even if you say, okay, we reverse engineered and we figured it out in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s, you still got to explain all the weird stuff people were seeing before then as well. well. So, you know, there's a lot of different possibilities. I can't say I know the answer for it. Right now, I guess, because I don't believe you can go to the past in terms of retrocausality, the most logical explanation for me is either some ancient civilization, like that we are potentially the aliens that were left here on this planet and we've adapted to the environment and we've forgotten that we are actually super advanced beings that are from some other location or something like that.

Or, you know, it's just a simple alien example. But what I want to say about the alien thing is that for the people that are my alien heads out there that love the ETs and what have you, we've got to change our perception of aliens because aliens are not flying around on rocks like Avi Loeb is saying, oh, the alien rock that came from the outer space. It's definitely an alien ship. I'm like, guys, we can teleport and we've got free energy. The aliens are not less.

advanced than we are. So it just even based on our current level of technology, if aliens are out there, they've got free energy, they can teleport, they can be invisible, they can have drones that can go do whatever they need for them, they can probably clone, they can probably live forever. So we start putting this in context. Aliens are going to be like ET coming down, derping around like, derp, derp, derp, here I am. Yeah. They're going to be super advanced beings like that we can barely even relate to. They're going to have no interest in us at all because we're them from like a million years ago. We're basically like little ant colony at the edge of the galaxy that doesn't matter at all. Yeah. Yeah. And I often wonder too, like, you know, we have talked about our personal

experiences of seeing these orbs and even being able to call them. And I'm just wondering, what the heck is it? Is it something that is from nature that does it itself? If somebody making these things and they're just coming to us, I just don't get it. Or, you know, you know, know chag goes into the religion thing could it be you know Satan well and and I wanted to I want to elaborate and touch on something Ashton talking and Ashton you're you're a little off with the food fighters date the so the sightings was in Europe 1944 to 1945 so this is around the time World War II pilots from the U.S. 8th Air Force and other Allied units reported strange glowing orbs balls of fire and lights that would follow or paste their aircraft these objects often

maneuvered at incredible speeds, far beyond known aircraft technology of the time. And then in the Pacific Theater, similar reports came from airmen fighting the Japanese. Pilots described the red, orange, and white lights that would shadow their bombers or fighters, sometimes darting around in ways that seem to defy physics. The characteristics of these is glowing balls or spheres of light, sometimes red, orange, or white. They appeared singly or in groups. They could follow aircraft at high speed, then vanish. completely out of thin air, exhibited no hostile actions, never fired or never collided

within the airplanes, although they came within inches, according to some pilots. We also heard that about Ryan Graves. Keeping in mind, this is all back in 44 and 45, and not affected by defensive gunfire. So they did know that they tried to shoot some of these things and to know of L. It was like they didn't exist. Somebody's got to be controlling these things, right? Something or someone or some faction. But how does it check out in your mind, this is 1914, 1994, 1945, right?

Like, what the hell? Yeah, I mean, it's got to be something that was probably more advanced than we were. And I don't think you can explain it through black projects. But what I will say is that these orbs, whatever they are, I'm not, I think you could control them by a consciousness because I do think that there's this connection to the zero point energy that is potentially where our consciousness also comes from if you want to get esoteric related to it. So that does open the door to those types of phenomenon being possible.

But the more logical explanation is it's just using AI, just using like how does your, how does your plane fly on autopilot, right? Same deal. It's just more advanced autopilot. It's just autopilot in three different dimensions, 360 degrees, as opposed to what we imagine is a plane just flying level all the time. And they figured that out. They figured that out.

It turns out that some of the first computers, do you know where the first computers were pretty much used for? They were used for nukes. Well, yeah, and Nazi too. They were used for nukes. IBM was one of the ways to help figure out who all the Jews were. I do know that. Yeah, but the main purpose of them was for nukes, was to do the calculations that were required because when you do a thermonuclear detonation, thermonuclear detonation is the first stage and a second stage.

The first stage is the A-bomb stage. The thing that we know is the mushroom cloud, boom. And the purpose of that is you want to get all the waves of the x-rays to beam onto a center point to ignite your second stage. And your second stage is the fusion stage. So what they're trying to do is, and when you start reading about how the news works, it's all about geometry. It's all about getting everything to focus onto a single point to ignite your fusion reaction. And so you can imagine what would they use computers for to do the calculations. They need the computers to maybe even do the calculations like in real time on the fly.

And so what I've now been wondering is like, they probably had computers way beyond before we did, right? I mean, everybody kind of, they being, you know, black projects, government military. I think everybody kind of admits that that's the case. So why wouldn't they have AI before us, right? Don't you think they should have AI? Because if they were using these computers to like figure out how to make nukes detonate precisely, then they were, and missiles and things like that. Of course, the next thing would be, okay, AI navigation.

And that's what I think the orbs are using. So it's not a matter of necessarily consciousness. You just have an AI navigation system, and it can basically sense the magnetic fields. So they can get into alignment really easily because once they can just control the, basically their electric field strength. And they can create a situation where, like, they know an equilibrium point. And once you hit that equilibrium point, they get stuck in the place. It's called magnetic inversion, magnet inversion. and once you're in that equilibrium point,

if you go away, it pulls you back in, and if you come forward, it pushes you back out. So a computer can do that very easily. And then it just has to fly. So all you have to do is give it a target, and then it can do something like that. But I want to take this to the next level, which is not only do I think that they figured out AI,

computers, etc, is that ER equals EPR. This is the idea that quantum entanglement is the same as a wormhole. Well, we have something called quantum computers, and they've now been doing scientific papers in the last few years that are saying these quantum computers are producing wormholes. Is that they're actually producing real wormholes in these quantum computers and that there is this connection between a wormhole and quantum entanglement. Is that those are potentially the same thing, which would mean that these quantum computers are now just entanglement devices. they're just little wormhole devices. And it could then, this connects the idea that consciousness itself might just be the same thing as like us with this wormhole that we're connecting to this extra dimension.

And then all you're trying to do is scale that up. You need to scale that up from the tiny scale to something that's very large. But the thing that freaks me out about that is I go, okay, well, is AI then just like, are we just a quantum computer? And is AI then just an artificial version of a lot? us that is also connected to the same exact consciousness? That would be pretty weird. Yeah,

that's really scary. And I have one other question when Chad was reading about the orbs, how they're different colors. As far as physics, what makes those different colors? Like the oranges and the reds. So, I mean, the wavelength changes color as well,

changes color, but it could also be the chemical makeup. I was just reading the other day that the, I guess the color associated with the manipulation of space time is orange, supposedly, which I didn't know about. But yeah, it would potentially be the wavelength that is going to change whether or not the orbs could be invisible, for example, or if you would be able to see them or potentially what color they're going to show up as.

This actually goes back to the photoelectric effect, which was what Einstein won his Nobel Prize for, which is probably going to be the biggest blunder at the same time, which is kind of funny. So the photoelectric effect is why we decided that light was actually a particle. And the reason for this was we were shining light. on a conductor, a metal. So we shine light on a metal. And we expect the electrons

to rip off of the metal, which they do. So then we say, okay, well, I'm going to turn up the brightness on the light. I'm going to make it brighter. Well, what would you expect to happen? I would expect the electrons that rip off of the metal to shoot out

at a higher speed because I'm increasing the brightness on it. But that doesn't happen. The electrons shoot off on the metal at the exact same energy level. Like what? But wait, I increase the brightness. I put more force on it. Why doesn't it, why don't they shoot out with higher energy? So I say, okay, this is where Einstein goes. And they, you know, all the smartest physicists are trying to answer this question. Einstein wins a Nobel Prize and decides that it's a quantum packet of light. And that you have to change the size of the spoon in order to make the electron leave with more energy. Well, what is the size of the spoon that changes? It's not the intensity of the light. It's the the color of the light, the frequency. If you change the frequency, that determines how much energy the electron gets ripped

off of the metal with. But that's weird, not the intensity, the color, the frequency of the light is what causes it. So that's what led Einstein to come up with this idea that light is a particle. But light isn't really a particle. What's the answer to the photoelectric effect? Why does it act differently if you change the frequency? It's because of resonance.

It's because the metal is actually. actually a wave. We think of it as a particle, but actually everything is a wave. So when two waves interact, they can either interact very strongly or they can interact very weakly, depending on how those waves, you know, the various shapes of those two different waves. So if you have a strong effect, that's a resonance effect. And if you have a weak effect, then you have very little resonance. You have no resonance essentially going on in that situation. So that's the simpler answer. And then we don't now need light to be a particle. Now light's always been a wave. And then things like the double slit experiment, it's just a matter of coherence and decoherence, which becomes more of this conscious question of do we create our reality by perceiving it.

Yeah. And Ash and I, one night, Sharon and I were watching this video and it talked about the universe. And I should not have been watching the video that night because literally like it was an hour long video. Yeah, the infinity. Like, what does infinity mean? Oh, gosh. And so we started watching this. And like 30, it was an hour video and 30 minutes.

and I was like, Sherry, you got to turn this. Like, it is, it is flipping my mind to some weird place that it's just hard to comprehend that type of stuff. And so the reason- It all went back to geometry. Well, and math, right? So in philosophy, like cosmology, zero represents nothing, yet paradoxically, out of nothing, they say the universe emerged, right?

That's the Big Bang theory is where the Big Bang theory came from. The balancing act is physics often deals with the conservation laws, which is like the the universe may net to zero energy. So positive energy equals matter, right? Negative energy equals gravity. And so if they cancel, the total universe might still equals zero, right? This sounds nuts so. But mathematical, there's a lot of people that say zero made advanced mathematics possible, place values, algebra, calculus, for example.

But without the equation that describes physics wouldn't exist. So the mathematical universe hypothesis, also known as Max Techmark, this theory argues that the universe is mathematics, not just described by it, but it is mathematics. And so in this view, physical reality is a mathematical structure in everything that we see and feel. How does math equate to everything that you've researched out of curiosity? Well, really, what you're bringing up here is scale invariance. This is probably one of the most important physical concepts people need to understand. Whatever is very big can be made very small. And whatever is very small can be very big, which means we can make a sun into the palm of our hand.

It means we can make something that's a quantum, like a quantum entanglement. We can make that macroscopic, which would be a wormhole. So this is super important. And when you talk about patterns and geometry, we see these same fractal patterns, you know, recreate themselves at different sizes. We even see it when we see streams and geography. We see these same things in veins. leaves. So we see all these same patterns.

And this is so important to understand because now we say, okay, well, if that's true, then we should be able to make the sun at this very small scale. We should be able to create a fusion ball like that. And I think that we can. So to me, that's the biggest aspect of it. But the geometry aspect of it is also extremely huge related to really probably all of these types of effects. because we are in this entire geometric, almost like a snow globe type situation.

And I think the true nature of the universe is that we're in a flat, flat plane. It doesn't feel like we're in a flat plane because of our perception of this reality. Sorry, what was the first thing you said related to what you watched? Because I had another thought. Well, it's just the math, the math side of like reality. Infinity. Really. Infinity. Reality. Oh, yeah.

So here was the other thought. So this is actually super important related to zero point energy, is that the classical, the classical view is a zero point energy. It's insignificant. It's very, very small. But now, let's take those same conservation laws that supposedly say that you can't have free energy. Now, if I have the number zero, you'd say there's nothing there. But now instead of zero, what if I say plus 10 and minus 10?

If you add them up, there's still zero, right? But there's still, you could say there's a negative 10 and there's, a positive 10. Now, let's change those negative and positive tens to charges. Negative charge and positive charge. When those two charges come together, you would say there's nothing there. It's neutral, right? What if the universe is just neutral? And just like our plasma, what is a plasma? Plasma is if I take my atom and I rip the electron off of it. I rip the negative part off of it and make it go from neutral to not neutral anymore. This is also what electricity is. Electricity is a positive and negative charge separated.

So now what if I just take the space, some arbitrary area of space time, that's neutral, and I rip its neutrality away. What if I separate the positive and negative charges in that area of space time? If I can do that, now I can still have conservation, right, because everything adds up to zero at the end of the day. But this is still now allowed within the mathematics. This is actually really the idea of the warp drive, of the Miguel Alcuberi warp drive. He says, well, if I take some negative energy and I have some positive,

of energy, and I separate them, I can create a wave and I can just ride in the middle of that wave. So this view, all it requires to understand how that's possible, you say, well, all I need now is there to be a medium. Because if there's a medium, now I can just dip into that medium and I can create that negative pressure if I need to. And I can ride that wave. So this is really, this is the conceptual view that I think physics should have, which is not that space is empty.

It's just space is neutral. And we can actually manipulate that neutrality. We can separate those charges. And if we separate those charges, now we can potentially capture that. This is what a lot of these free energy microchers is really the theory behind these free energy microchips. In fact, Paul Tibido is one that I was promoting recently all those papers from several years ago. And he essentially created a free energy battery. The battery itself, he made the asymmetry.

he made the neutral level actually a positive voltage so that the battery wants to stay at a certain level that's not zero. And he's able to do that through just a clever engineering circuit. And it was one of the most popular papers, I think in 2020, one of the top papers in terms of views. And people struggled with understanding how can this be possible? He made a microchip that basically acts as an infinite battery. And the weird part about it, and this is what we'll connect it back to what I just said, is that it's the how does it actually function the way it functions is imagine that it the equilibrium that it's set to is not zero but it's set to 10 volts so I'm just giving an arbitrary number

so what happens in this situation is if you if you drain energy off of it it will always go back up to 10 but now if you try to add energy into it and try to make it go above 10 it goes back down to 10 as well. So it's not a situation where you just can yank, you know, you can add, you know, an infinite energy machine. It technically is, but it's really a situation where you've changed the equilibrium from zero. So you're just almost like pulling on a guitar string a little bit, right? If you're to let it go, it might go back, but you've created a situation where now the guitar string is not down at the bottom, not an equilibrium more. Now it's like been pulled up a little bit. Same idea. And so free energy then now has kind of a different.

viewpoint. You'd say, okay, well, free energy now is like creating an asymmetry out of this equilibrium. And if I can hold this asymmetry, if I can keep this door held open, then energy just keeps flowing out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy.

And I wanted to talk about this too. Well, yeah. When you talk about the dimensions, though, so first dimension, align, right, which is only length. Second dimension, they say a plane, length plus width. Then you think about the third dimension, which is what most people. will say that we live in, although everything also relates to that, but which is space as we experience it, leath, width, and height. That's what gives us this three-dimensional world that we experience.

And then you think about the fourth dimension, which is time essentially added to the 3D world to create space time, right? So that's Einstein's relativity showed that time and space are inseparable, but beyond the fourth dimension, the string theory, which you've talked about a little bit, to where one of the leading physics frameworks proposes 10 dimensions or 11 in M theory as they say. And isn't that like the god particle? Well, they say the god. I mean, you know, like the Higgs bosom particle or whatever that they've been trying to find in CERN.

But the first four are the ones we experience and the other six or seven are compactified or curled up in so small that we cannot perceive them. So when you talk about zero point energy or any of this stuff, do we have to utilize the other dimensions beyond time or what is your thought? on that? Yeah, I think strength theory is kind of bullshit. It's just too complicated. I don't need 16 extra dimensions or whatever the hell they're talking about, right?

We just need one more dimension, right? The dimension is containing those other four, right? We've got our three spatial dimensions up, down, left, right, back and forth. And then we've got also our time dimension. But now we're also realizing that we're in a construct, that this is really, there's something containing all of this. So then getting outside of that would be the last dimension. The way they talk about it in physics, the academics would, is they would say it's like the false vacuum.

The false vacuum is the vacuum with all the zero point energy on it. It's nothingness with everything on top of it. Now, if that false vacuum decays to the true vacuum, then you've gone to the real nothingness, which would be the idea of what's inside of the wormhole when MH370 gets encapsulated. You could say, well, you've collapsed space time down to the true vacuum. So you would say, well, the true vacuum is really the extra dimension, right? And that our three dimensions and our time dimension are kind of on top of that. And then if you can displace yourself from these three extra, these three spatial dimensions,

now for a brief moment, you've entered that extra dimension, hyperspace, if you want to think of it like that. But it's not a place you're hanging out in. Because just like I'm holding that door open, you don't get trapped on the other side when the door comes closing down, right? So you're just going through that briefly and then showing up somewhere else on the other side. side. And where that is on the other side, it could be anywhere. In fact, Leonard Susskind, who is working on those wormhole quantum computer experiments, they propose that black holes are actually, what they're doing is they're sucking the matter in and they're shooting it out, but they're kind of spaghettifying it, like almost like a sprinkler. It's kind of shooting it out

everywhere because it's not being focused, you know, it's not being targeted. And so that would be like you're essentially saying that the black hole is like a wormhole, but it's got multiple different paths and I can just shoot it out anywhere it wants. And this is the idea too then. We're going back to the free energy microchip where you're just kind of keeping it out of equilibrium is from a scientific way. You have to pay that back. Whatever energy you take, you have to pay that back.

But you don't necessarily have to pay it back right away. So now this is where you can cheat because, well, when am I going to pay it back? I'm not going to worry about when it's going to be paid back. The universe is going to figure out how the energy gets back to the source. The same way where I don't worry about when I drink a glass. of water, how that energy, how that water is going to recycle, how it goes back through the water table, how it goes into the sky and then rains down. I don't ever really think about that, right? Same way, we don't really think about how's the energy going to get repaid. I don't know,

universal figure that part out. So that's the big rub of all this free energy stuff. Yeah. And so if you go into a black hole, what happens, though? Like if a person was in a black hole, what do you think happens? I mean, you die, obviously. If you had some type of way. I mean, I think if you go into a black hole as we perceive them now in terms of this massive gravitational effect, you'll definitely get ripped of shreds. But if it's more like the MH370 videos where it's potentially a traversable wormhole where you don't have that huge gravitational force that will pull you apart, then I think from your perspective, it'll seem instantaneous.

Like you're just going to appear somewhere else. Now, the thing that would be disorienting is like I was saying before, is what if you show up and it's a year later? that would be extremely disorienting. Because you would be sitting there wondering what just happened and how that happened. Like you'd have missing time, basically. But then you'd look and you'd be like, I'm not older though. So how you'd wonder how that's possible.

But that's actually possible because if you can't go back in time, that would mean that we can potentially do super luminal travel where it appears like we're moving faster in the speed of light. But there's still a signal that's propagating. The signal is just propagating through that extra dimension. And this is what prevents retrocausal. is that now, as long as there's this signal still propagating, even it's through this extra dimension, even if it's essentially instantaneous, the speed limit is still set. You can still never

go backwards in time. You can never go retro causal. You can do weird stuff, though, like you can control the Mars rover on Earth in real time. And that seems impossible, but that doesn't break causality. That doesn't, you know, break the universe. It just seems impossible. So that's the kind of thing that you could really do with, you know, this physics in terms of the extra dimension. But you're not going to go, you know, hang out in the bizarre dimension with the people with mustaches or whatever. Right. Besides traveling through wormholes, if we could do that and we, I feel like we can because of

everything you say, I just want to ask another opinion. Do you think that we can travel to the moon like with humans? Or do you think that would be impossible? Oh, I think it's trivial. my view on that like you know did we go to the moon i mean personally i don't care what difference doesn't make honestly at this point but i think it's more of a matter of if you've got technology that you can like teleport and stuff like that it's just a liability to be taking people on a rocket to the moon is dangerous you're like putting those people's lives in danger and then if they were

to find out that you had something much safer or you didn't need to do that at all they would just sue you the shit out of you right like they'll sue you later so i think that's the more logical reason, especially when you look at back when we stop going to the moon. Like, you know, it's like, okay, 60s and what have you. That's when we were also figuring out these hydrogen bombs. And if I'm right, we figured out that a pure fusion bomb was manipulating space time. This implosive effect of this fusion bomb was potentially manipulating space time. And then we figure, oh, we don't need to go back to the moon anymore.

That doesn't make any sense. And then as the technology advances and we create all this drone technology, I mean, you tell me, why would we ever send anybody to the moon? What is the actual point? The only reason why we did the first time is just to say that we could do it. So why would I send somebody to the moon where I can just send a drone up there if I want to record something? You know, there's no oxygen up there or anything like that. There's a lot of stuff that can go wrong.

Yeah. And in the reverse of that, too, it's like, you know, a lot of people believe that, yes, we wanted to say we did it. But why if we have technology like zero point energy, which, you know, as I've been following you for a long time, I think we do, why are we hiding that? but yet we were trying to brag about the moon landing, for example. Yeah, well, maybe we didn't have it at the moon landing, you know? Maybe we just figured it at the end, or maybe it's a big hoax and we just recorded something. We just wanted to propaganda victory at the time. And then we figured out all the zero point energy, anti-gravity stuff.

And like I was saying, I don't think we had like flying saucers that could fly people to the moon in the 60s. I think that those types of advancements have been more of the 90s in my personal opinion, but could be wrong. It's hard to say. And so that would make more sense in terms of like why we didn't go back in the last 30 years when we just maybe we wanted to flex again and just say that we can do it. For sure. So I don't know.

That's kind of my opinion on that front. I think the bigger question is like if we have this kind of portal technology and stuff like that, do we have off planet like troops people, right? Like ambassadors, right, to other places. Because first thing I would do if I figured out portal technology, I'd be like, okay, We find the nearest planets that most likely have life on them and start sending probes to them. And then once we find something, we're going to start sending people over there, right? Like, that's what I would probably do.

And that's what I think what people would expect if this technology comes out. So maybe we already did that. Maybe some of these stories about, you know, either off-world people, like I think it was Gary. What's his name? Not known. The guy that hacked into NASA. I can't believe. But maybe some of these stories are true.

And maybe we do have either off-planet people or we've been able to, you know, set up communications. It's Gary McKinnon, by the way. Gary McKinnon is the one that hacked them. So I don't know. And also the thing is if we have, you know, portal technology, then faster than like communication, like the controlling the rover on Mars situations become real, which means you can actually have, you know, real-time conversations with people on different planets. And that's the thing that actually existed in Star Trek, but it was no.

never explained and people hated it, at least physicists did because I said it's impossible. But this quantum entanglement makes that possible, even though that seems impossible from our perspective of time and space. Could you imagine, though, it being like Star Trek? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think everything in Star Trek is going to be real, even including the replicator. Charles Chase of Lockheed Martin. So the other topic I wanted to talk about tonight is fusion.

So one of the first things I found, I basically just exposed Lockheed Martin has a working compact fusion reactor that's using. field reverse configuration plasmoids. And it went dark in 2018. And it was crazy because I started looking into it. And the first thing I found was this guy, Charles Chase. He's the guy that I've been talking about.

He's promoting this coherent matter wave beam thing, which I'm like, what is this? It turns out it might be something you can teleport. It might be able to make a replicator with it. And he's got a patent for it with Lockheed Martin. Oh, my God. And I find out he's not just some random engineer. He is a senior fellow engineer at Lockheed Martin top 0.1%.

He was actually in leadership of the revolutionary technologies division of Lockheed Martin in the Skunkworks. And he was the guy. I found his resume from he retired in 2018 and started his own company called Unlab, where his whole goal seemed to just be like to get this technology out in a public way. Actually, really similar to Andy Eskridge, weirdly. and he has his resume available online. So we found that. I don't know if he's taking it down.

But right in there, it says he's the one that convinced Lockheed Martin's DXOs to take the risk on the compact fusion reactor. And he says right in there that it was successful and breathing on its own. And it seems like the way he frames it is that like when they develop these technologies, it basically goes to a production line and now can be incorporated. into any designs of orbs or flying sauce or whatever they're building. And explain what that compact fusion reactor is exactly.

What does it do? What is the main purpose of it? So there's a really great video out there. You might be able to find it on my feed if you want to, if you just want to check it out. And maybe I can find it and link it to you where this guy, Thomas McGuire, is talking about it. And he says essentially unlimited fuel,

unlimited range on an aircraft. They were talking about using it as propulsion. They're talking about making a fusion reactor. It's a plasmoid that produces its own magnetic field, and the magnetic field contains the plasma and using that as a thruster. Because potentially you don't need to have any onboard fuel tanks for that. You just use such a small amount of onboard fuel that essentially doesn't even need a rocket tank. And it can use the air, the air as its additional fuel source that it needs.

Because the air has hydrogen in it, has the chemicals that we need. or maybe even the water as well. And he's saying that, you know, they can develop these modular reactors that are fit on the back of a truck and that they can build these things in just several months because of the simplicity and the small size of them. And they figured out this field reverse configuration

was the secret sauce. They say the field reverse configuration has a high beta value. Well, I looked whatever that meant. And it turns out that's the ratio of the magnetic field strength to the plasma expansion. So the magnetic field is keeping the plasma confined. So the higher the beta, the more the magnetic field can keep your plasma confined. And we're not talking, when we're talking about improvements in the beta,

I think they say that these Tokomac reactors, which is the donut that everybody's doing with the hot fusion, it has a beta of like 5%, 5 to 10%. What is the beta of the field reverse configuration? 100%. 100%. What? Yeah, that's crazy.

I'm like, I had to hear it a few times. He's like, yes, well over 90, nearly one is what they say, nearly 100%. So this is clearly the secret sauce. And sure enough, I start asking Google, research, or I know, AI. Turns out it's maybe the only fusion reactor that produces a sphere mac, which is a spherical ball of plasma as the end product. And the thing, the unique feature

of these field reverse configurations, which also is shared by dense plasma focus fusion, is that they have axial jets, meaning that instead of, the big problem with like trying to confine your plasma is it always wants to escape. It's always trying to shoot stuff out. There's always some, you know,

something that has to be expelled. So what they did is I said, okay, we'll just control it then. Instead of trying to like perfectly confine it, let's just let the stuff shoot out and we'll just use it as propulsion. And if you look at these field reverse configuration subs, they all have like openings where you can, you know, shoot something out of. So this is also as well what Richard Eskridge, Amy's dad. Oh, gosh. Look his scientific papers up.

Plasmoid fusion propulsion. He was literally working with the co-founder of Helion Fusion and their whole thing is field reverse configuration. plasmoids. So, you know, you want to go down the rabbit hole of what happened to Amy. I mean, it's pretty damn weird that her dad was literally working on this stuff for NASA, with the guy that now has gone on to start this fusion company that was backed by the Department of Energy that has Peter Thiel and Sam Altman putting hundreds of millions of dollars into it. Yeah, that's pretty scary. Yeah, I think I know now why Elon wants to get to Mars so fast because eventually, you know, eventually when other countries catch up with this, you know, and we are back to a war of, you know, for example, the nuclear race.

You know, we're in a different race now. All countries are. And whoever advances further could literally take out the entire world with this technology. And I think that's the scary part. I think that, you know, we oftentimes look at like, you know, what is going to be the demise of our civilization? And, you know, for me, looking at, you know, 2025 and our advancements, I think that we are our greatest risk. We ourselves. And I think that's scary.

And I also think it's scary because, you know, we don't have Congress or, you know, these subcommittees and whatever the hell they set up. I mean, how much. Black projects or whatever. How much do they actually have, you know, oversight over anything? Yeah, they don't. And we don't even really know who does because I don't even necessarily think it's our military that does. think this is a lot of this, do you think a lot of this is contracted and these are companies that have this technology? Yeah, it's all, it's basically all contractors. Ninety seven percent of

Lockheen Martin's revenue comes from the federal government. 97 percent. They're basically just the R&D arm of the Air Force essentially at this point. I was blown away to find out how incestuous the relationship was. Sierra Nevada Corporation, the one that produced the whammy footage that were watching MH370 from above. They're basically, all their revenue is also from the federal government. Nobody even knew they existed or what they were. They're a major surveillance defense contractor. And when you look at who's on the boards, it's all like generals, military, intelligence

people. And so what you find out, too, is that there's this huge incestuous relationship where they're sharing information. And some of these people know, like Peter Thiel and Sam Altman aren't randomly investing in helium fusion. Somebody told them, that's the secret sauce. That's the one you want to invest in. which is sick to me, because it means that it's not just a matter of they want to protect us from

this, certainly there's an angle to that. They're getting rich off of it as well. And they're basically setting up which companies are going to succeed in the future. They know what stuff works and what stuff doesn't. They know which fusion works. So that to me is probably the scariest angle of this, which is why I want to expose this stuff and tell people, when helium fusion goes IPO, if you miss out, don't blame me. Don't blame me because these people have inside information 100%. They have inside information about how this is going to all play out ahead of time, probably years in advance.

And that's what I love about the MHG70 videos. They expose that the United States government has this stuff, and they expose this whole weird side of it. Now, the other flip side, though, is I don't think everybody knows. Actually, I think a small, small percentage of people know. Even people you would imagine should know, like Elon Musk has no idea. Elon Musk has no idea. He would never go on Joe Rogan.

and embarrass himself the way that he did if he had an idea about this. He would never go, no, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman don't have any breakthrough propulsion. That's crazy. If they had something like that, they would be competing with me.

That's like he is too smart to say something that stupid if he actually knew. So I know a lot of people think Elon Musk knows. I guarantee you Elon Musk does not know. And this is what people need to start to realize, especially people in the conspiracy world. Because people in the conspiracy world, everything's a conspiracy, everybody's in on the conspiracy.

It turns out a lot of people, most people are not in on it. Even people that are very high level. And it can turn out that it's not really a matter of what your status is, although it certainly helps if you're in the club, right? It's more of like where you're at from a spiritual awakening perspective. Yeah. Like if you're aware that this stuff is going on, then you can be brought in, right? They don't go around looking for people to wake up. They go around looking for the people who are already.

awake, right? People are already woken up. They want Elon must to be stupid and in the dark. They want them to think that we're going to go to Mars and a SpaceX rocket. Because that is never, ever, ever, ever going to happen. Nobody on this planet is ever going to Mars in a SpaceX rocket. Take it to the bank right now, at least not in a conventional, you know, explosion rocket. It's going to be a fusion rocket type thing. Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say. If they use that fusion ball you're just talking about, then they could. Yeah. And I think that's too why, you know, you've made such big waves in the space of science and technology and advanced technology.

And I think there's a reason why you've not been brought on to mainstream media. I even think there's a bigger probably reason why you've not been on Joe Rogan. I mean, I know Joe Rogan has brought on a lot of people that have made a lot of claims, but there's a lot of stuff. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that you talk about that is very detrimental. And I also think that's why the government, you know, how many times have you reached out to the government or entities in the government that they have basically not given you a time of day because they don't want to acknowledge you whatsoever.

I mean, they don't even want to interact with you because then they're going to have to have an answer for something that you are questioning. Yeah. Well, that's my favorite part about this is like, you know, how many times I reached out to like the Air Force and the DoD for a public comment

on the videos and they just refuse to comment at all at every reason. Yeah. Like it's clear their policy is no comments whatsoever, right? On anything that could even potentially be a leak. Just no comments whatsoever. And it's funny how. scared the engineers are. They're just like clearly terrified

to talk to me most of these guys. Like Larry Forsley is the guy that invented the term lattice confinement fusion, which is just one of the new names for Cold Fusion. He's a NASA guy, you know, connected to Hal put off a lot of these guys. And I don't think he knew who was the first time I emailed him, right? And then I sent a follow-up email where it was like,

more like the conversation we're having now. And then no response ever again after that, right? And it's because I think they realize like, oh, no, this guy's like a little, a little too close to some of this stuff. But some of them, too, like, I've been surprised. They just, they don't even know. Like, Garrett Modell is a professor emeritus at physics department at University of Colorado.

And he's got a free energy microchip. He's got the results on a YouTube video that he said, you know, we've ruled out artifacts and all these other things that it could be. And we're just literally seeing this thing, this microchip produce access energy. And even he doesn't know about this. So I emailed him too. And I'm like, he was under this video with Charles Chase where he's talking. talking about his free energy microchip.

And I'm going, do you not realize why Charles Chase is talking to you? Guys like 0.1% top Lockheed Martin's skunk works engineer. Like he's interested in your stuff because he knows Lockheed Martin already has it. And he wants to see how you're doing. And I told him this and he's like kind of surprised. He couldn't believe it. You know, I'm like, okay.

That's funny. Believe whatever you want to believe. It's interesting. So the point being though is that a lot of these people aren't potentially just even people that are literally building the stuff because they come from this, you know, normal worldview background where whatever we have publicly must be the most advanced thing. Yeah. So don't necessarily just assume that everybody's nefarious who's saying that this stuff doesn't exist. In a lot of cases, it's just that we've been brainwashed so well.

Yeah. And they just don't know. They've been brainwashed so well that they just can't believe it. Yeah. No, that makes sense. And I think a lot of times they don't connect with you because I put Ashton in the category of Albert Einstein, Nikola. Too much. I really do. I think that you're going to be in history books because you do have a little brain that just goes and goes and goes.

And I don't even know where all that brain comes from. You are so smart. And with that being said, have you thought any more about my matchmaking? Oh, goodness. Here we go. My matchmaking thing with Ashton, because we did have people reach out. Yeah, we did. I've had some bad experiences recently, guys.

some of this stuff. I don't really want to dig in all the personal stuff here recently. But I've kind of just stepped away from the love life situation recently. I've got a bigger mission at this exact moment. But, you know, maybe we'll work on, you know, we'll have a meet and greed or something like that at some point in the future. We'll have a investigate Earth MH370X meetup. Yes, that would be fun.

That would be cool. Ash and tell everybody what you're working on where they can find you all that good stuff. Yeah. So, you know, now I'm digging deep into the nuke. I think the last kind of thing I want to say relate to all this is that, you know, I've kind of taken a slightly different approach now that I realize that this is all related, nukes, how serious it is. You know,

I'm not as concerned about convincing people about MH370 videos being real. I think that ultimately all this science will get out there and people are waking up. And I'm just, I want to say I'm super proud of MH370X, the community that I've helped build and foster because we are really influencing people in a major, way. Like I'm seeing it when I watch mainstream physicists like Sabine Hassenfeld. They're talking about zero point energy and fusion way more than she used to. And so it's not just me doing that. It's all of you guys out there who are in people's replies, asking people question. And you guys,

you chat and Sherry that are like, you know, asking people about this, asking people about these concepts. So thank you guys very much for that. And you guys can find me at Just X Ashton on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. The best place to find me is at JustX Ashton on X, uh, where I, engage quite a bit and then you can watch my live streams Monday Wednesday and Friday 7 p.m. Central. I personally believe they're some of the best science and physics live streams out there, but I'm a little of the bias. No, they're good. They're very good. Ashton, thank you so much for coming on, man. We love having you on. And I mean, it's been what two years now. I think since you've kind of been involved in this since we met you first or at least first talk to you. And every time you

come on, people learn something. Right. And that's that's very important. As we are being lied to so much in this world today, it's good to have someone on that's actually out there fighting the good fight, trying to tell people like what is actually going on. And the amount of research and amount of work you have done is commendable. And he's so good at explaining things to people like myself that do not understand the things he's explaining. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm in science class every time I talk to him.

I love it. Yeah, for sure. Now it's good. Ashen. Well, thanks, man. Thanks for coming on. And we'll definitely be checking out your live streams in the future. Guys, that's going to do it for us.

By the way, we do have merchandise. New merchandise just dropped. We have hoodies. We have some fall gear. That is investigate earthstore.com. And we got some awesome designs. And we're going to change them about once every month, month and a half. It just depends.

But once our, I guess you can say limited line goes away, it'll never come back. Yeah. And I'm hoping that Chad's going to put my limited line on next. I keep bugging them every day. I'm like, when are you going to put mine on there? No, we're going to have it on there. but so many of you have been so supportive and, you know, there's been many of you. There's like, hey, I got to buy, you know, these shirts.

They're never going to be back. And we work very hard on the designs. And oftentimes it's about stuff that we talk about on the show. But then also we just have investigator stuff, right? So that, that'll always be there, the hoodies, the shirts, all of that. And they're good quality. We should make an Ashton Forbes shirt. I know.

We should, yeah. That would be so cute. With Ashton's face on there. We're going to do it. I love it. We are going to do it. But, guys, that's going to be it for. us in this evening.

And the name of this song, by the way, is Boom by Nick Caution because I think, you know, and by the way, Ashton does some dances every once in a while. I don't know if he still does them. Oh, we could do him dancing on the t-shirt. Maybe. That would be so cute. A dance in Ashton. But at the end of Ashton's live stream, sometimes he does some dances and they're pretty

amazing. And if he doesn't do him and I'm in the live stream or if he's not going to do him, I'm always in the live stream. Like, hey, do the dance. Do the dance. Sometimes he can't get away from it. But anyways, that's going to be it for us, guys. Until next time, we love you.

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