Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Spotify Pulls Joe Rogan Episodes | Joe Rogan Says the N Word

Episode Date: February 5, 2022

Spotify has recently pulled over 100 Joe Rogan episodes amid a new video compilation showing the podcast host saying the N word on various posdcasts. The cancel culture pressure is on level 10 and not looking like they will give up.

Welcome to another Investigator Earth podcast episode with your host Chad and Sherry here. So say hello, Sherry. Hello. Of course I did that right before it. Anyways, it's got a new headphones, so I'm very happy about that. Yeah, they're pretty good. I'm like pulling the wires and then, I don't know, man. We got like this headphone splitter.

So it's a little strange because it kind of cuts out here and there. This is a special Saturday episode, and we were actually probably not going to do an episode today. specifically on this subject, but felt like we kind of had to with the new news of Joe Rogan and Spotify, pulling Joe Rogan episodes. We're going to talk about all that. We're also going to bring on one of our listeners to the show tonight, so we're going to do that in about 10 to 15 minutes. So we'll get his opinion, talk to him the other day. He's a cool guy, and we'll definitely bring him on. So the latest, let's talk about the latest Joe Rogan's scandals and controversy.

It's a saga. Yeah, we had to come on and do this because, number one, you know, this Joe Rogan stuff has been a really highly listened to episode of ours because everybody's wanting to know what the latest and what the deal is with it. I don't blame you. And it's just frustrating for us all that this is happening. Well, it's frustrating for free speech. And I think that's kind of what the big thing here is, is everyone is looking at Joe Rogan and this Joe Rogan controversy as basically the woke canceled. culture mob from the left doing everything they can grasping everything they can to basically do away with free speech forever and i can't believe this is on i don't know why let me turn this

turn this down real quick but um so yes it's basically their last last grasp for our first amendment and the crazy thing is there's been a lot of people that have come out in defense of joe uh you know up until maybe today and we're going to see what happens with this new controversy but uh you know the rock commented on joe's uh first apology video and basically said i can't wait to come on brother we'll open up a thing at tequila and i said rock's always been pretty predominantly uh liberal uh you know a lot of his stances especially in the past you know four years since trump's been in office and then even before that with obama the rock has definitely been on the liberal side of things and so now what had happened with the first controversy was the doctors. They wrote some doctors anyway.

The media made it look like there was 200-something doctors that wrote this open letter to cancel Joe Rogan for his misinformation, quote-unquote, or disinformation of COVID information. And so come to find out two or three days later, just with a little research, many of these doctors are not even licensed to practice medicine. Some of them were veterinarians. Some of them were a podcast host. Some of them were not doctors whatsoever. ever. And so the media kind of knew that wherever this thing came from, wherever this, you know, this, well, we know where it came from. I mean, number one, we had ratings come out not long ago, three weeks ago that said, that said Joe Rogan was number one of all media. So he had better ratings than anyone. He gets 11 million downloads per episode, whereas you have companies like CNN and MSNBC and all these that are at the bottom of the list. And so,

I believe, you know, number one, they've been after him. They knew that they were losing their listeners or their watchers, such as CNN and these other companies. And so they've always kind of hit Joe. They did it with the horse paste bullshit. They've done it with various other things that Joe has said. But they've never quite went after him with a coordinated attack as they have. And I think that they know they are dying. The media is dying.

No one trusts the mainstream media anymore. and if anything makes that apparent, it is Joe Rogan's podcast. And so they realized that when they did this whole doctor thing, obviously someone had to go to doctors and say, hey man, we need you guys to write an open letter and then we're going to blast it all over media. And so come to find out when there was so much BS

among all the doctors actually wrote this letter, the media kind of knew they lost that battle. That was round one. If you're looking at it from an MMA perspective, as Joe would. The media lost round one. And then so that wasn't good enough. So then Neil Young and some of these other artists said,

well, I'm pulling my music unless Joe is off Spotify. Meanwhile, many of us don't even know who Neil Young is. Well, there's a lot of people who do, a lot of people, Don't he's old. And so then, you know, basically Spotify said, okay, well, we'll let your music go. You know, bye. Yeah, they chose him. They chose Joe over Neil and said, bye, bye.

And then all those memes are coming out saying that he, what was the meme about him? What meme? About the singer do you. Oh, you cancel yourself. Yeah. And you're so woke, you cancel yourself. But so anyways, so that didn't really work either.

So then they were like, well, shit. So then this morning I wake up and I find a Joe Rogan apology video. Another one. Second one. This is number two in like a week. And so Joe had to come out and apologize. for saying the N-word over the past

how many of years he's been doing this podcast he someone went obviously went through every single podcast he had which I mean and this is like what he has thousands

like 12 years worth yeah or more so I mean I think his latest I can tell you which I mean doesn't really matter anymore because Spotify's pulled a lot of them but Joe Rogan usually puts the numbers at the end of each episode

so let me see what the latest episode is. So, yeah, 1772. So he has 1,772 podcasts. And, you know, out of that 1772 podcast, someone went through every single one of them. And these podcasts are long, three hours. Yeah.

I mean, somehow. They had to have had a team or some kind of speech recognition thing. Yeah, they had to have something. But they did, and then they compiled these clips of Joe Rogan saying the N-word. Okay? He says it probably 15 times or 20, somewhere right there, with the ER.

But as Joe says, and we're going to actually listen to Joe's second apology video, it's not as long. And we, I don't know. Let me see here. I don't think it's as long as the last one. But we are going to listen to it. So here is the latest one. And then I'll kind of tell you my whole thing. who actually released this video

is an artist by the name of India R.R.R.E. India R.R.E. is a, what the media says, a Grammy-winning artist, which, by the way, I barely know she is. I couldn't tell you one of her songs. I'm sure some people do. But she basically posted a video of Joe saying the slur approximately two dozen times,

is what they're saying, on his show to explain her decision to have her music pulled from the streaming service. So she's another one that's getting on this bandwagon. I'm pulling my music. and whoever it was, I guess, sent her to the compilation of every time that Joe Rogan said the N-word. So, anyways, here's Joe's apology. Friends video to talk about the most regretful and shameful thing that I've ever had to talk about publicly.

There's a video that's out that's a compilation of me saying the N-word. It's a video that's made of clips taken out of context of me of 12 years of conversations on my podcast, and it's all smushed together and it looks fucking horrible, even to me. Now, I know that to most people, there's no context where a white person

is ever allowed to say that word, never mind publicly on a podcast. And I agree with that now. I haven't said it in years, but for a long time when I would bring that word up, like if it would come up in conversation, instead of saying the N word,

I would just say the word. I thought as long as it was in context, people would understand what I was doing. Like that context was part of the clip we were talking about Red Fox, how Red Fox said that word on television in the 1970s and how times have changed so much since then. Or about how Richard Pryor used it as one of the titles of one of his albums. Or I was quoting a Lenny Bruce bit or I was quoting a Paul Mooney bid or I was talking about how Quentin Tarantino used it repeatedly in Pulp. fiction or I was talking about how a Netflix executive ironically used it because he was trying to compare it to another offensive word and he said it out loud and they fired him not calling anybody or just saying the word out loud I was also talking about how there's not another word like it in

the entire English language because it's a word where only one group of people is allowed to use it and they can use it in so many different ways like of a white person's says that word. It's racist and toxic, but a black person can use it and it can be a punchline. It could be a term of endearment. It could be lyrics to a rap song. It could be a positive affirmation. It's a very unusual word, but it's not my word to use. I'm well aware of that now, but for years I used it in that manner. I never used it to be racist because I'm not racist. But whenever You're in a situation where you have to say, I'm not racist. You've fucked up.

And I clearly have fucked up. And that's my intention to express myself in this video to say, there's nothing I can do to take that back. I wish I could. Obviously, that's not possible. I do hope that, if anything, that this can be a teachable moment. Because I never thought it would ever be taken out of context. and putting a video like that.

And now that it is, holy shit, it looks bad. And it's part of also me doing this podcast for thousands of hours, thousands of episodes over 12 years. I said a lot of fucking stupid shit, which is fine when you're talking about most things, but not when you're talking about race. And so, yeah, so that's basically it. I mean, he goes on for another couple of minutes. But, yeah, that is essentially his apology.

And, yeah, that's where we stand with this. Unfortunately, I mean, I hate to say this. I'll give you a good example of this, even though it's not exactly the same, but I will give you a good example. When we were doing the Kyle Rittinghouse trial coverage, and I said on the podcast, exactly what was being said in the court as far as what Kyle Ritting, or Kyle, whatever his name is, Rosenbaum, what Rosenbaum was going around saying to everyone. And shoot me. And I said it word for word.

Because I think that number one, you know, I can sit here and explain Rosenbaum's actions and maybe why, you know, he was a very big detriment to that entire night by using, by saying inward. Like if I say, you know, inward, it doesn't do the same thing. I mean, it doesn't hold the same context. And it doesn't come across the way people need to hear kind of how someone's going around saying that stuff. And by the way, the attorneys use this, especially the defense attorneys, use that word in court. Yeah, said the whole word. Because you have to, especially to relay that what happened. I mean, it is a factual thing.

Now, unfortunately for Joe, this shit comes at the worst time that it could possibly come. Well, they did that because it's the worst time. Exactly. They did. But like he was saying, it's all out of the contents. He wasn't calling anyone in that or being racist. Another example is your favorite country singer guy that got in all that deep crap. Morgan Wallin, yeah.

Yeah. When he was, like, drunk and talking to his friends and called them that, you know, like, get up in or whatever. He got in a lot of crap for that, even though he wasn't being racist. But I still don't even think that's in the same context as what Joe was saying. Joe was talking about the word in a context versus Morgan was like telling his friend calling his friend that you know because it's a slang for a lot of people

but to me I feel like I don't get the whole you know it's condemned for white people to use the word but you know black people can use it in any context they want to you know in rap songs you know you turn on some of this music It's every other word.

Yeah. Like, I don't understand if black people can use it because I don't know. I just don't get it. Well, look, and by the way, like, it's not like I want to use the word because, I mean, I don't just go around saying it. No, I'm not saying. I'm going to call somebody that or anything. But, you know, a lot of people like, you know, black people say, hey, my N, what's up? You know, it's just like slang.

Yeah. It's not anything derogatory or anything racist against anybody. A lot of times it's like calling somebody your homeboy. or what's up buddy? For white people. Yeah. Yeah. And actually, that's kind of what Morgan Wallen was sort of doing that night when they were all shitfaced.

Yeah. Like, someone come get this inward out of the bush. Yeah. You know, it was his friend. Yeah. But even him calling his friend back. He wasn't saying it as racist. No.

It wasn't being racist. It's a slang word. Although, even what Morgan Wallen did, and we're about to bring Alex on right now. And I'm in, Alex, are you with us? Sorry, I got to get you up here. Can you hear of us now? Can you hear me now? now.

Can you hear me now? Yeah, I got you guys. All right, cool. So, Alex, you're a listener of ours, and we actually got a chance to talk to you the other night. We talked for a while, actually, because, you know, it's kind of, anybody that listens to us, obviously, is going to have a lot of the same thoughts and, you know, at least, or not thoughts.

It's not even having the same thoughts as us. It's just they're not kind of moronic like a lot of the world is nowadays. I guess you're saying. Dude, yeah, that's what I was going to say. It's just not being stupid. Yeah. So it's not like a. you know, that's one of the things about the Joe Rogan thing I was going to ask you and kind of get your thoughts.

you know, one of the things, like, there's been a lot of comedians and people that have come to Joe Rogan's defense in a lot of this stuff, and they've said it's not, you can look at Joe Rogan and know that he's not idealistic, meaning, you know, he's not far right and he's not far left. He's somewhere in between, which I believe I'm definitely, well, and that's the thing when I say I'm in between because it's like, I want to be as far away from this, this left side nowadays as I can, even though there's a lot of, there's a lot of bad in the right as well.

But what do you feel like, number one, let me get your opinion on the whole Joe Rogan cancel thing. Obviously, no one's ever heard you on our podcast before, but what is your thoughts on that whole deal? So, I don't know, man. Like, I honestly think that Joe Rogan, like, compared to a lot of people, I don't really think that he's, I mean, he doesn't even, he's not even that open about his political standings. Yeah. Um, so like for him to get canceled and the latest thing with like the N word that you can tell they're just reaching. Um, because racism, like any inkling of racism anywhere is going to strike a chord with most people. Um, and so they, you know, they might be having trouble with getting them through the, you know, when he had Dr. Malone on there and all the other stuff when he was, you know, having actual facts about COVID. And so maybe that, that, that, that, that, didn't work for them.

So they're, oh, well, racism will probably work. People will be beside us if we, you know, shout racism. So. Yeah, and it's kind of one of those things. Have you ever heard, you know how social media? Social media is like, for people that are not following the Joe Rogan thing, right? And so someone like my mom, for example, someone that watches mainstream media. Well, now that they got this whole N-word thing, I could probably ask my mom in a couple days, but like, hey, do you know Joe Rogan is?

Oh, is he, is he the racist? guy that says the N-word. Exactly, man. That's the first thing people are going to hear about him. Yeah. Which, I mean, one thing that sort of piss me off is Joe Rogan's like playing into it. He's like, yeah, I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have said that.

I'm so sorry. Like, and if he wasn't meaning it to be racist, why apologize? Exactly. I'm right with you. I mean. Yeah, like, why I apologize for that, man? And also, I'm definitely not a racist. I have like, you know, I have black friends.

I got, he pulled the black friend thing. I went there, bro. I went there. But yeah, dude, like,

and my thing is, they call us crackers all the time. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. But, but,

like, you don't, you don't see why people marching and, you know, like, that's racist. I just,

I just think there's a lot of double standards out there, and it's kind of BS. Yeah, so, yeah, and here's my thing.

Like, Okay, I get like if your race of people was slaves, right? And by the way, you know, my side of the family, you know, I have Indian. I have Indian on one side. And then I have Irish on the other. Now, you know, Irish, hell, you can kind of look back on Irish stuff. Actually, Irish were some of the worst treated people in the history of the world besides Jews and Indians and blacks. I mean, you look at the Irish, there used to actually be Irish slaves.

The same as there was blacks. And guess what? You're married to a Jew, so there you go. I'm actually like Scottish, Irish, and like some sort of freaking, I don't know, Scandinavian or something. Yeah, and so. So you guys are white boys. You're crackers. Yeah, we're white boys.

I have blonde hair and blue eyes. Yeah, I'm saying. Well, I don't have blonde hair. It used to be when I was born. It was blonde. but no and you have blue eyes too blue eyes

but no I mean you know but the thing is like I I get it like you know the N word is a bad word and and we under you know I don't think anybody

don't understand why the N word would be bad to use on every day like just just from a perspective of like let's be respectful to other people right and so if this group of people went through slavery and they are they didn't

but you know their family their ancestors did. Just like my ancestors are the Indians. They used to get scalped by white men. I mean, you know, that's a thing. But the thing is, is like, if you identify that a word is so harsh and vile, then you as a race should not use it. Yourselves.

Exactly. All each other at. Like, on an everyday basis. Like, it's like, it's part of their terminology. It's kind of like me and Chad calling each other bro or dude. Yeah, it's the same thing. Mm-hmm. And, but the thing is with Joe Rogan, you know, he wasn't calling anyone as that as their friend or anything.

He was talking about certain subjects. Subjects where that word was brought out or brought up. And then they put this compilation together or whatever where it makes it look like he's saying the N-word 15, 20 times or whatever. Yeah. Alex, I don't know if I told you or I don't know if you were listening to the beginning of this podcast, but what I was kind of saying was when we were covering the Kyle Readinghouse case, for example, I had to use the word, the N-word in the particular case of talking about what Rosenbaum was going around saying. And, you know, by the way, Kyle Reddinghouse's defense also used the word because they had to betray exactly what was said.

You know, because you can't say, oh, well, Mr. Rosenbaum was. saying the N-word. No, you say Mr. Rosenbaum was saying this. You want to make a point to not only the jury to whoever else. And what Joe Rogan has done in 99% of these clips from what I can see, he's either quoting other comedians such as Richard Pryor or, you know, all these other ones that use the N-word regularly. And then they would kind of have conversations about it. It's not like Joe was saying, hey, this dude is an N-word. Mm-hmm. You know, he never once said anything racist.

And before I even kind of went to try to look at these episodes today, I was just looking through, like, to see what the context was on all these, because there's already videos out there to show the context. I already knew before I even saw it that it was not going to be a racist thing. I mean, I knew that Joe was not ever going to come from this as a racist point of view. Did either one of you see, like, the actual video that's out there? Yeah. I did.

You didn't? Did you, Alex? I actually didn't get a chance to watch it. Yeah, I saw it. I read, like, I read a few, you know, like articles about it. And, you know, I mean, it was kind of like what Chad said. Basically, he was, he was talking about other situations. Like, he wasn't, he wasn't saying, this person is a, you know, inward.

Like, he was talking about other situations. He himself wasn't really using the word. Well, what are you both? And I'll ask Alex first and then I'll ask Chad. What do you think about him coming out with all these apologies now that he's being attacked? Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing or what? It's bad. Yeah, I agree with Chad, man.

Like, in this day and age, if you apologize, especially to the left side, they're going to take that and they're going to bury you. They're piranhas. And if they taste a little bit of blood. Exactly, man. They're going to swarm him. And that's what they're doing. And like, again, I'll say it again. Like, if you had, if you were, you know, had no intentions of being racist and you know yourself the comment wasn't racist, why apologize? I would be like, I would, at the very least, I'd probably be like, I'm sorry that you maybe perceived it as racist, but that's not really how I meant it. So, so just what I said. Yeah. And like you're saying, by him apologizing, though, it's only, almost making him look like he's bad and doing something wrong. Like he is. Rather than saying, okay, this video is out here. I'm not going to apologize for this.

But, you know, but he's like, you know, I fucked up. I did this. Yeah. I almost think he's panicking, to be honest. Yeah. Well, and look, but here's the reality, too, is like, it's something that we've been talking about. And we've talked about us in other episodes. Joe can pick up his toys and go home.

Very, very fast. I mean, he can, he can do. it, you know, although, yes, you're right, Alex, I believe he is under a shit ton of pressure. I believe he is panicking a little bit. But I also believe that Spotify has to be doing the same shit, if not worse, because they have it on both sides. Number one, they know that if it gets to the point where their investors and all this shit make them cancel Joe Rogan, like they give them no choice, whatever that may be,

whether it be pulling, you know, $800 million worth of shares out of the company. or whatever the case may be to where they then feel like they are force in their hand well they got to look at it from that side and then they also have to look at it on the side of well we got to support Rogan but how much can we support Rogan and because if Rogan does go home

all you all you have done now is you have let your shareholders win which by the way in the end is going to hurt the shareholders because I don't know if people realize this but like Joe Rogan is the most listened to thing on Spotify and he's the most listened to podcaster in the world and he's the most listened to media source and so if

in turn Joe Rogan leaves Spotify which he's not going to do by the way but but what because it is contract no but here's the thing here's the thing this is what we're going to get into as of today Spotify has pulled 113 of Joe Rogan's episodes that was like 70 the first day

yeah I saw that 70 new ones yeah so I don't think it's updated but yeah it was 113 total. So from the time he joined Spotify, there was, I think there was so many of them kind of like October, November, but just recently they pulled 70-some. And I was looking through the ones that

they pulled, they pulled the Theo Vaughn episodes. They pulled Alex Jones. I have no idea. Yeah, Theo Vaughn is like, he's kind of an idiot. Yeah, but he's funny. I mean, I think it's hilarious, but like, there's not going to be anything that's misinformation. There was nothing even about.

COVID or anything on those episodes. I don't think there's anything too damning on the Theo Vaughan. No, they were, I think they were talking about like... Did you see when Theo Vaughn was like, yeah, I used to stream UFC illegally. Yeah. He's really funny. I like watching Theo Vaughn video. And Joe was looking at him like, are you serious?

You're, you're streaming my stuff? Are you seriously saying that on my fucking podcast? And then he was also talked, I mean, they were talking about some crazy stuff and like, oh, the owls? swallowing. If you've ever saw the owls one, oh my god, man. Well, Theo Vaughn just has ridiculous stories. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, he's like, yeah, me and he's like, we used to eat owls. He's like, my family. Uh, and he's, and he's like, you eat, and Joe's like, like, you ate owls? He's like, yeah, he's like, they look really big, but he's like,

when you take all the feathers off, they're like little rats. He's like, so you can't even get that much meat. I don't know, like, I feel like a lot of Theo's stories are just BS. They could be, but he's. funny as shit. But he is so funny. And why? But why banned his, I mean, for him, for example, he's not a doctor. He's not in the profession of, you know,

talking about anything like that. I don't know why I, this is going to be the big question going forward is why were these episodes pulled. Yeah. I mean, it's not just Theobon. I understand the Robert Malone and, you know. Well, I don't understand that either. I mean, that's the point. Because they want those off.

Yeah, but listen, here's here's what we're going to get to, ladies and gentlemen. Joe Rogan, according to many sources, I've looked up some people that kind of, that were close to Joe Rogan during his signing of the Spotify deal. And one of the major reasons that Joe Rogan, besides the $100 million deal, obviously, but one of the things that Joe had in this contract, by the way, and he made this blatantly clear in the contract, according to sources that was close to Joe that has said this recently, that yes, if you give me a hundred million, that yes, if you give me $100 million, great.

But let me explain something to you. The reason that I'm going, I mean, the main reason I'm coming to you is to be uncensored to where I can talk about what I want to talk about, have the conversations I want to have, and bring on the people I want to bring on, because that's what YouTube did to me was censor me.

And so that was in the contract. Yeah. So, here's my thinking. You've pulled now, Spotify has now, and this is my theory, and I could be wrong, Spotify has now, as of the past three days, pulled 77

episodes or whatever it is. They've already pulled like 113, which I think Joe agreed with, for whatever reason, to come on the platform. But if it's true that this is in his contract, to where you, you know,

look, you make sure that you protect my free speech, and you make sure that I can say things, as long as it's not, slanderous, liable, or threat, you know, or whatever the, you know, Constitution says, I can say these things. But what I think is happening right now, and I could be wrong, I think Spotify is intentionally trying to break their contract with Joe

without them having to kick him off. So you think they're doing that, so he'll leave? Yeah, I think they're doing it to where, as crazy as it sounds, I think they're going to do it to where they're breaking their contract by deleting episodes. and then if Joe Rogan leaves, which he will legally be able to do if that contract and everything surrounding it is true.

Do they have to still pay him? Yeah, they would, yeah, if they break the contract, yes. But, and people are like, well, they're not going to kick him off with a $100 million deal, but you have to understand just one of their shareholders.

Black, I F this freaking name up every time. It's not Blackstone, because that's a grill. It's black, whatever the hell they're investing. Yeah, I remember what you're talking. It's Blackstone. Let's just go. with that.

Yeah, it's Blackstone. But yeah, if so, but the thing is, just Blackstone alone, there's a shit ton of major investors in Spotify. So if Blackstone says Hey, we're going to, or I think it might be Black Rock actually, maybe, but that sounds too close

to something that we should be talking about. Anyways. Hey, fact checker person over there. Look it up. Yes, Sherry. Look this shit up. Yeah, I have a phone. Where's your computer at? Dude, you guys can just hire me.

I'll be your fact checker. Dude, we should do that, actually. We need a fact checker. Yeah. But no, we, but yeah, so, but if Blackstone, whatever the hell their name is. Blackstone, rock, whatever. If they say, look, we're about to pull $800 million out of this fucking company unless you get rid of him. Well, then they're looking at it as, well, we either lose $100 million or $800.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. But I don't think they realize that they're going to be fucking. regardless because you're going to lose a shit more people from losing Joe Rogan than you lose from that money that you're about to lose $800 million. I mean, I think they're going to be more screwed if they lose Joe Rogan because also if people find out that Joe Rogan is off of Spotify, they might go elsewhere, you know. And follow him to another platform.

I think Joe will make his own. Yeah. But let's say he doesn't go to his own platform. and he goes to another one. No, he absolutely. But I'm just saying if he did, everyone's going to follow him there. Yeah, but I don't... He's definitely not going to be hurting for money.

No. Yeah, but you know, but you know, and I've thought about that too, though, Alex, is, like, would he just say fuck it and just not even do a podcast? Well, I'll tell you my answer to what I, what we would do. Even if we had $100 million off this podcast right now, right? And we were in the exact same situation as Joe Rogan. and they kicked us off that would make me make sure that I freaking go somewhere

and talk as loud as I can about all the bullshit even more Yeah exactly And people want to hear that crap And they're gonna listen Yeah they want to hear it The thing that kind of frustrates me the most About Joe Rogan is

He's just sort of being like I don't know very impensive about it And he's being very like very timid like oh my gosh what's gonna happen you know he's I don't know he's like if it were me I don't know I wouldn't I wouldn't like

first of all I wouldn't be making a bunch of apology videos you know and second I would if they kick me off they kick me off I would just go like freaking pedal to the metal man because this is the like the worst time

to submit to people like that because if you do that they're going to likes truth. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, dude, is like this battle with this Joe Rogan thing, I don't think people realize is how huge, like, what is going on right now is. It's almost like Joe is the leader of the free speech. Yeah, it is a big deal, man. Yeah, if he loses. People, people don't realize what this, this could be like, you know, this could set the stage for what's going to happen in the future. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, because if, if, if, but, you know, But keep in mind, you know, this also could be like, hey, you know what, Spotify canceled Joe Rogan.

All these people, including myself, especially considering most of our listeners come from Spotify, you're going to feel a little deflated if that happens. You're going to feel like shit, we've lost. Right. But y'all's podcast is better than Joe Rogan. It's just FYI. I don't know about that. You're awesome, Alex.

In my opinion, dude. Yeah, you know, but there's so many times on Joe. Rogan podcast, I want to just jump through the damn screen and be like, Joe, like, you've got to stand a little strong. I mean, because that's what's crazy is like, dude, if we were in Joe Rogan's position, holy shit, the media would be burning our freaking studio down. Well, that's what I'm saying, man. He's not like, I would be a freaking stone wall. He, if that shit was happening to me. But, like, he's just wavering.

I don't know. It's just weird. And it didn't, like you guys said, like, to me, Joe Rogan is the forefront of this whole freedom of speech. Freedom of speech thing going. If he bows down, it's kind of screwing everyone else. But listen, so here's the thing, though. I mean, let's put it in context for a minute.

You know, Joe Rogan is, they've always said, this damn, this damn dog. Can you go tell him to shut the hell up? Because I can hear him. I'm sure everybody else can do. Can you guys hear it? I'm sure they can. but anyways

this free speech movement is it's kind of weird because like not always are people prepared for the position they are put in and you know I think I think what what Joe Rogan is 100% truthful and transparent about is that he never thought that the podcast would get to where it is

yeah yeah exactly and so with him being put in this position as a genuine guy that I don't believe is apolitical. I mean, honestly, Joe Rogan, without question, has been more liberal left in his history than he's ever been right. He's had way more beliefs on the left side than he has the right side. Take Tim Poole, for example.

Tim Poole has always been known to be a liberal leftist. I mean, you know, Tim Poole was one of the biggest, and one of the best, by the way, journalists on the left and the Democrat side that the Democrats have ever had. And it's because he was one of the best investigative journalists. It doesn't matter about the fact that he is a Democrat, you know, and all that. But it matters about that he was the most transparent, truthful, and actual investigative, non-biased journalists that the Democrats had. And then as soon as he started his own platform to where he was actually speaking,

the truth, just like Joe Rogan is, just like we are, just like, you know, many others are. They then call them far right, extremist. I mean, that's so, that's so funny, man, because, like, the people, the people that are getting canceled

are the freaking Democrats. Like, they're canceling their own people. Yeah, like Whoopi Goldberg. Oh, my gosh, dude. I hope they cancel everyone. Like, I hope they cancel all of them.

them because she said like jewish is not a race or something which technically it is just yeah i mean that's uh i don't know about that comment yeah i mean like sherry's jewish i mean her whole family you know a lot of people yeah my family was in the holocaust yeah a lot of people don't know that but yeah sherry's family was in the holocaust i mean you know you just you just might want to be careful about talking about a group that you know basically had genocide going on Right. You know what I mean? Be careful about that.

I guess where she was coming from is that, you know, I think she probably was looking at it. Like, you know, Jewish people is a religion, not a race. No, but it is a race. But it is a race. Well, I mean, it kind of is. I mean, you know, if you look at Israel, you go to Israel and look at the people there, which, by the way, most of them are Jewish. They're not white.

No. I mean, Jesus, by the way. It's not white. For anyone that believes in Jesus, you know, Jesus wasn't white. No, he absolutely was not white. And so all these movies that have Jesus is like a pretty blonde boy. Like, he was not, dude.

He was like a gnarly looking... Middle Eastern. Carpenter. Yeah, migration, dude. So, like... But, you know, people want to misconstrue the facts. All right, so listen. Here's the thing.

Let's get to the Joe Rogan. I mean, we've got to it, let's elaborate on this just a little bit. So Gerrigan said the N-word. The N-word is bad, okay? And so we do know the N-word is bad because we know where the N-word came from. We do. But the reality is that the dude freaking used it in context to basically almost quote what he was trying to say.

He was quoting something he was trying to say about. about someone else position. A lot of times, black people that had this. And by the way, Joe Rogan's a comedian. So he was calling out this shit in many different ways. But the thing is, it's like all the sudden, you know, this never was an issue before until all the sudden,

people gave a shit and wanted him gone. And so they're going to do anything to find this shit. Now, I'm always on this people, like, damn, what if people went through our podcast and tried to figure out our racist? But we don't have racism. We don't. I mean, we don't have, like, you're not going to go through our podcast of 100 and whatever episodes. And you're not going to hear us say the N-word, except for the Kyle Rittenhouse podcast, where we were literally quoting.

Yeah, quoting it. Exactly what the defense team was trying to make a point of. Well, I mean, I guess, I guess if I ever want to take you guys down, I can just make a bunch of sound bites. You're saying that. Yeah, but you better, you better, like, auto-tune them to where it sounds like some different, like, different conversations. Yeah. Look, see, he said inward here, and then you can just clip it with something else we said. But that's what people can do.

And I'm just saying, I'm going back to this artist that actually put this thing out. Do you guys really think she's the one that came up with up? Aria, or whatever name is, Aria or India Aree. Let me tell you about her. India Aree. Never even heard of her. Well, I have briefly heard of her. And let me tell you why I've heard of India Auree.

I've heard of her because she's very. culturally not culturally diverse that's not a right word she is very culturally saturated with her culture and that's fine and you can be that way I mean you know I mean

whites are not allowed to do that I was going to say you can be that way if you're black but if you're white and you're culturally saturated with your whiteness it's you're racist you're racist if you believe that you're proud to be white is she like a black pop star or something or No, she's, yeah, I guess you can call her a pop star.

I mean, she says R&B, I don't know. But the R&B I know, which, by the way, the R&B that came from R&B is, I don't know if you know, you're close enough to the beach. Do you ever, have you ever listened to, like, beach music, Alex? Yeah, I mean. Like, Carolina Beach music, like the Grand Strand, Myrtle Beach type shit. And by the way, most of those people are black that do the beach music. When I think of like original R&B, I think of like freaking boys come in or something.

Shit, you're not that far back. You remind me, you just said something that made me laugh inside. You remind me of what the hell, just go with it. The Adam Sandler movie when it was Jennifer Aniston and that young girl. And he was like, oh, what is she singing, Backstreet Boys in the damn in the shower? Oh, yeah. Even though, don't get me wrong. I like boys to have been, sorry.

I can jam this of Backstreet Boys. I'm not going to lie. No, Alex, you're making yourself sound really white right now. You just need to shut up. We're going to be canceled because of how white you're sounding. Dude, I don't care. You were so white, you're racist. Yeah, right.

If you like Backstreet Boys, you were freaking racist. The only thing that saves me is I can play drums pretty well. I can throw down those beats, you know. Those damn pop beats on that backstreet. boys track are boys to me yeah someone's like

play they're like play an R&B track and you're like oh shit I don't know if I can do it well are you are you racist or not can you play it or not that's gonna be the test

no but listen no but listen I'll be honest dude I was in music and yes I I actually still say that I got my vocal like learning

from boys to men I told you that before yeah and you just Why are you making fun of me? Yeah, exactly, Chad. Because it was funny. But Chad, he had the whole album.

Yeah, boys to men, every night. I used to sing it in my room all the time. And by the way, I also used to sing Backstreet Boys. Oh, my gosh. There's probably tons of black people that love the Backstreet Boys. Oh, I guarantee you. But they'll never admit that shit. Oh, yeah, probably not.

It's just like Nickelback, you know. It's funny because black people can't admit when they like a white group. but white people feel cool if they like a black group, right? Like an R&B right. But no. So even the like Carolina Beach music scene, which is, you know, by the way, mostly predominantly liked by white people in the Grand Strand,

Myrtle Beach area, you know, they got the shag music and all that stuff. But what a lot of people don't realize is beach music actually was their original R&B. And so, and then it kind of just, they put a different name on it. So the original beach music was R&B. music. Most of these groups

were black groups. And so R&B really came from the South. I mean, and people don't realize that either. R&B didn't come from the North and the West Coast and the New York City. R&B came from the South and it predominantly came from. It was literally originated

between Wilmington, North Carolina and Charleston, South Carolina. That is where R&B was born and then it went to Carolina Beach Music and then they had another version of R&B that came after after. But R&B came from North and South Carolina. Well, I mean, it's just, it's kind of like rap, man.

I mean, what's like a huge hub for rap? What city? New York. Atlanta is like that. New York, yep. Atlanta's a huge. Atlanta's a huge city. Yeah, Atlanta's a huge city.

And talking about that, you know, in the past, you know, there was usually more black people doing rap and some white people mixed in like in an Eminem, Kid Rock. Did I say? My brother actually ran into Andre 3,000 from Outcast at a bar one time. Oh, Outcast? Yeah, I don't know if you guys heard it. Yeah, I know who Outcast is. I love him. Yeah, Outcast is good.

But anyways, now, I mean, even Rap is being, that's the thing. How old are you, Alex, by the way? I forgot. I think I asked you, but I forgot. I'm 30. 30, okay. So I'm seven years older than you. But, you know, but we grew up in a, you know, similar.

close to the same type of kind of era. But, you know, I, I, I grew up in a predominantly black school in my elementary middle school days and ninth grade. But I just remember, like, back in the day, dude, this race shit, man, you just didn't hear about it. I mean, there was no,

my best friends were black. My, like, when I'd have birthday parties, you know, my mom cooked things for everyone. I mean, my mom would literally cook shit that everyone liked. And I'm not even going to go with that. I'm not even going into it because I'll be called racist. But what I'm saying is.

But yeah, but my, she would literally make me go to school, ask my friends what they wanted her to cook. You know, and they would be like, oh, I love this. All right, cool. She'll cook it. And then my white friends, I like this. You know, I like vegetables. And, you know, and all this shit, my white friends said, even though I was, I'm just kidding. Now you're being racist.

So white people eat vegetables? I'm going off of freaking, what's his name, Dave Chappelle. God, I'm a money. But I'm not allowed to tell that joke. But anyways, no, I mean, but my mom made sure that everyone was happy. It didn't make a shit about culture and, you know, whatever. My mom was willing to adapt. But my mom was willing to adapt to their culture because they were my friends.

Right. You know, it's, you know, she wanted them to feel comfortable. It's also a southern culture, though. Well, I mean, there's shit the black, yeah, it is. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But there are, there is stuff that black people eat that white people find disgusting. And there's shit that white people eat that black people find disgusting. It's just a cultural thing.

But, but the reality is my mom went over and beyond to make sure that they were, felt comfortable, you know. And, um, and she always did. And that's why everybody always loved my mom. And, but that's the shit. No one, no one used to say, oh, because you cook this and they said they wanted this, you're racist. No, it's just hospitality. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I grew, I grew. grew up the same way. I mean, whenever I would have friends over, my mom would always make sure they, you know, have food and all that stuff. So it is a southern thing. Yeah. Yeah, it's way more Southern.

Because I grew up in the West and that did not happen in the West. Yeah. At all. Well, I'll be honest, guys. I feel a little depressed because I don't think this Joe Rogan thing's going anywhere good. Yeah, it's really upsetting me. I'm aggravated. I feel frustrated because I feel frustrated because I feel,

feel like, you know, right now, Joe Rogan is a leader of free speech because he does have the platform, unfortunately, even if he wants to be there or not wants to be there, he's there. And he's kind of the leader right now. And by him. And they're trying to cut his head off. Yeah. And they are. They're attacking him.

But the way that he responds to these attacks is what's going to be everyone else's future. Yeah. And even for us. He's not doing good right now. I'm just telling it with his response. You know, like, he's not doing very good. He's not coming off very strong.

No. But look, you know what worries me most about this? I mean, I don't want to sound selfish when I say this, but I kind of do at the same time. Every time I see this Joe Rogan shit playing out, I don't really worry about Joe Rogan. Like, I mean, I hate to say that. Like, I don't.

Yeah, he's good. He's got a lot of money. No, but yeah, I don't worry about Joe Rogan and be like, oh, shit, I'm not ever going to. be able to hear his podcast again. I mean, I know that sounds bad. I mean, yes, I definitely want to hear Joe Rook. I like his podcast.

I'm just saying... Okay, but for example, today, he had a new podcast and you're listening to it. And it was some... I didn't listen very much. It was boring. It was boring. It was some geology dude talking about rocks. Yeah, it was boring.

Nobody wants to, like, listen to that. Yeah, people want to listen to... Oh, my God. He's freaking resorting to that. Yeah, that was his first... That's his way of laying low. Let's talk about rocks. He brought some kind of guy that drove, like, 1,500 miles.

miles away or whatever to do the podcast. And Joe said he was so excited to do this podcast. Even though it was boring as shit. And this dude was talking about rocks and nobody freaking cares about rocks. I'm sorry. But no, the reason why people want to hear Joe Rogan and quite honestly, the reason why people listen to us, I mean, is because they want to hear the freaking truth. I mean, regardless of what that is, they want to hear what the media says you're not allowed to hear.

I mean, it's just like when you've always heard the statement of like Preacher's daughters. And by the way, I can attest this shit. But Preacher's daughters and sons or whatever, they sometimes turn out to be the most rebellious, crazy mofos you'll ever meet in your life. And it's because. I will say this. I'm married to a preacher's daughter. Oh, shit. Oh, we got to hear about it.

But I already know why you're married to her because she's probably crazy. I mean, in a good way. No, dude. In a good way, is what I'm saying. Yeah, she had her crazy days, but, you know, she's definitely awesome. Yeah. I know what you're saying, though, man. Yeah, no, I know.

A lot of, like, preachers kids, they're freaking insane. Yeah. I got bullied, I got bullied by one at one point. Yeah, that don't surprise me either. Jesus probably told him to do it. No, I'm kidding. What did you say? I said Jesus probably told him to bully you.

He's like, nah, this kid sucks, man. But you should bully this asshole. No, I'm kidding. probably ain't the same Jesus that I worship. No, yeah, yeah. I was kidding. But listen, yeah, but you're right. I mean, everything is taken out of context nowadays.

But the reality is if they cut Joe Rogan's head off, which is essentially canceling him or whatever, even if Joe Rogan goes to another platform, and I do believe that's going to be the end result. And I don't think Joe, I do not listen. If that's so, why is he apologizing? No, listen. Well, he's trying to save face right now as much as you can, I guess.

And I don't think he really tunes in with his audience. He's said many times that he does not read comments on anything, even though I... Which is kind of, you know, in this situation right now, you're going to kind of regret that comment. Exactly. Because he, to me, a lot of people that have an audience and you don't read your audience comments, you're not in tune with your audience. And you have to be. Yeah, by the way. That's important, man.

Especially if you're in a band or something, you've got to really care about your fan. Because they're the people to keep you going. And by the way, Alex, that's why you're on this podcast because you are one of our listeners. And we are definitely in tune with you because you're on here right now. Yeah, you guys, I've been chosen.

You are the chosen one. No, but I mean, but, you know, and I'm sure you're a devoted listener to us and we definitely appreciate it. But, you know, you've probably heard us say. this podcast is our podcast. It's not sharing eyes. It's yours.

It's the people. It's everyone that listens to us. And I feel like that's very important. And Joe needs to understand that with his. And the reason why Alex said he's going to make a mistake with not tuning in with his comments is because if you go to Joe Rogan's comments on his apology videos, both of them. Like 95% of people are like quit apologizing, dude. Like you are literally just playing into this shit. We love you.

We support you. F them, you know, like, be over this shit. Because the more you apologize, the more you're going to give them blood and the worst this shit's going to get. Exactly. And everyone's begging him to quit apologizing. But it's just... If he would actually read the comments, maybe it would help him out. Yeah, I would hate to think that there, I don't think there was any way possible I couldn't read the comments in this situation if I was in this.

And don't get me wrong. We don't read all of our email. I don't read any, you do. I don't remember. I'm sure you guys get a lot of trolls and people just trying to bring it down. Yeah, we do. We definitely do. But even like with Joe, he's like, I schedule all my guests.

I do all this stuff for myself. I guess he's got the dude that's a fact-checked or any a couple other dudes. Yeah, Jamie. He doesn't do everything himself. I can tell you that. Yeah, I don't think so either. He said that, but I was like, ah, dude, I mean, why would you do everything yourself? Like, I mean, I even told you Alex the other night on the phone.

dude, we should hire you to do something for us. Because, like, I mean, the more that you can get someone else to do and help you out, the better the podcast is going to be. I mean, and if you got $100 million, why the hell would you do that? Yeah, I mean, as much money as he has, it's just really hard for me to believe that he's, like, doing everything himself. So the N-word thing. Do you think this is the end of Joe Rogan, Alex?

I mean, I would say like the only way it would be, you know, he's just being very submissive about it. You know, and if, like, you know, it's, it's kind of like, you know, if you ever got in trouble with a teacher in school or something and you had nothing to hide, you wouldn't be sketchy and, like, apologizing about it. Exactly. Yeah. Like, I would just be like, look, man, I said what I said. you know, I didn't mean anything by it. So, I mean, the way, like, I saw some quotes. He was just so, like, down in the dumps about it.

Like, he actually was being racist. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he was, like, depressed in that video. You couldn't tell. It was weird. You know what would be really cool? And I, like, I've listened to a bunch of Joe Rogan's podcast, and he just doesn't strike me as a racist. So I know that's not what he meant by it.

Yeah, absolutely not. So if apologizing is honestly going to bury. him. The only way he's going to get, you know, the only way he's not going to survive this is if he keeps on going about the way he, you know, if he keeps on being super submissive about it. You know what? Honestly, grow up here. Yeah. You know what would be really cool, though, is if there was some kind of comeback video where whoever did this video, this complication of the N-word videos, if somebody came out with, like, a video, like, showing

how great he was or whatever. Like all the times... There's tons of those videos. You know what I was saying? But if somebody did a complication of that... Comple... Whatever it's called. Complication.

Complication. If someone just did a complication, look, he's already complicated enough. He's very complicated at this point. I think that the video today was a complication video. Yeah, I know. But what I was saying, if somebody did something really good about, like, really good, like, things that he's done in 12 years. Yeah.

Who has the time, though, but unless you have like some, like you said. Well, shit. I mean, all he's got to do is just do the, I mean, do a video over to Robert Malone podcast where he's actually trying to tell people the truth about the vaccine or the, and by the way, Alex, I don't know if you want me to tell people. Well, I don't know. I mean, I know your vaccine status, but whether you are. You can tell them if you want.

I mean, uh. Hey, but, but, but, hey, tell people what you're not using my real name, so. Okay. good. So you're mystery man, Alex. Mystery man, Alex. But listen, so tell people, though, that what you told me the other night is you're vaccinated, right? And

your wife's vaccinated. And by the way, everyone I've known, by the way, so far that are vaccinated have got COVID. Sherry's got it. My brother has it right now. Pretty much everybody. And... Chad, you're getting me really buzzed with the whole by-the-way thing. Oh, shit.

I might not be able to talk. Alex. Oh, that cracks me up. So yeah. So anyways, apparently, have you ever sold that video? Apparently. My grandfather's never been on the news before. Yeah, it's like a little kid using the word of Harry.

Have you seen that shit? Oh, my God. Yeah, it's hilarious. Sherry does it perfect too. Apparently, I've never been on the news before. And my grandfather watches the news every night. in the powerball. He watches the power ball.

Dude, that's spot on. She's so good of that. I am not as good. I'm not good with impressions. If you've heard our podcast for, I suck. Dude,

your fauchy one is pretty close. I can do Bill Clinton pretty good. Oh, let's hear it. No, I'm not going to do it right now. Oh, you can't. We're putting you on the spot.

We would have to get you, we'd have to get you under the desk for me doing my Bill Clinton. Oh, God. I'm just kidding. What was your, What would that brush it be with somebody other than the desk? Oh, my God.

That's a joke. Don't cancel me because Bill Clinton is technically black. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, so what were we saying? Let's get on a serious note. Yeah. No, you're talking about me and my wife. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.

But you told me, though, so you got the nose spray shit, which is the clear stuff. And by the way, a lot of people have actually wrote in about the clear nose spray before. And there's been a lot of people that said, hey, that shit worked. Like, in my opinion, it freaking worked because someone in the household had it. Chad made me do that when my nose was on fire. He's like, I don't care. How bad you feel you're spraying that shit up your nose. I'm like, I don't want it.

But did you use it, Alex? I mean, did you use the nose spray? Yeah, I did. You know, and I was like, I wasn't quarantining for my wife or anything because I'm not going to do that. that's stupid. Yeah. But yeah, I was using it.

Yeah. And that's the same thing with Chad. So there's two, Alex and Chad. No, it's not just two. There's been like 12 people right now.

But I'm just saying two people on the podcast that say their wives had COVID and you didn't quarantine from us because you're not going to do that because you love us because we're the perfect wives and you can't be away from us.

I just feel like that would make me come off as such a bitch too. You know what I mean? Yeah. Sorry, but I'm not ever going to see you for like next. I'm not going to help you when you're sick.

Dude, if I did, if I said that to my wife, she would smack me across the head. Oh, yeah, me too. Me too. I'm like, Chad, you're not going to court. Chad, you just kissed me like two days ago and now you're going to quarantine against me. No, no, I tried to kiss my wife when she was when she had COVID and she's like, no, I don't want you to get it. And I'm like, I promise you I'm not getting it. And I didn't.

That's awesome. Also, guess what came in the mail today? What? It's the, uh, I'm probably going to butcher how you. pronounce it's the quercetin Quirceton. Yeah, they get big yellow pill with a purple label. Is it a purple one? Is it a purple one or which

one did you get? Yeah, it's the purple one. It's like the purest form or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That stuff is amazing. And by the way, that shit, that shit works for all kinds of stuff. Yeah, my mom has, well, she's, I guess, maybe lung cancer free now, but she has

been taking that, like, every day. Yeah, it's one of the best, I mean, there's nothing bad about it. I take it because I have lung issues. And by the way, so we had, Alex, I don't know if you heard the episode. We're getting a little off topic with who gets a shit. I don't know if you heard the episode with Sean Baker, the carnivore diet episode. Yes, I did.

I did listen to that one. And so Sean Baker, you know, is Joe, you know, he was on Joe Rogan, and he's the one that got Joe Rogan on the carnivore diet. So he's actually Joe Rogan's like number one dietitian dude still. and one of the things that Joe said, or not Joe, but Sean said was, you know, and we had talked before in text and all this stuff. And I was like, well, look, I said, you know, with this Quirston stuff, which he knew about it, like, very heavily. But he's like, well, the Quirston, the great thing about the Quiristan is, like, if you go on a carnivore diet, Quircidin is one of the best things you can take if you are on a meat-only diet because the Quirston is literally everything that is good about Veroor. vegetables that you eat or fruits.

It's mostly like fruits and vegetables, so blueberries, broccoli, stuff like that. The number one beneficial thing in those vegetables is Quircetin. That's where Quirceton comes from. But to get the benefit out of one pill of this quirson that you just got,

Alex, to get the benefit out of it, you would have to eat like a thousand broccoli clothes. Oh, my gosh. I think it's like 29 pounds of blueberries for one pill. And so all the antioxidants, they highly concentrate that and they put it in there. And it's a pretty powdery looking pill.

Imagine the dump you would take. Yeah. Well, what I will tell you about Quirsten, though, is just drink water. You know, make sure you're not dehydrated and stuff like that because they do say, I mean, it's kidney flushed. So you want to make sure you get enough fluids. I mean, I'm not saying like overdue it. be scared of it, but just drink enough something to flush your kidneys. Does whiskey count as fluid?

Yes, absolutely, because that's actually one of the most diuretic things you can drink. There you go. Like alcohol is one of those diuretic things you can drink. So even though it does dehydrate you, but, you know, it is still a diuretic. It flushes your kidneys. Oh, yeah. But guys, I don't know, man. I don't know what's going to happen with this Joe Rogan thing.

What I will say is, um, is we're in a really, we're in a really, really, really crazy position at this point. We're in a crazy position because now Joe Rogan has the N-word thing that came out, which they were determined to find that shit. And I think that this... Look, here's my opinion.

I don't think you're just going to continue to see the Joe Rogan episodes, and Joe Rogan's just going to go on like it's always went on. I don't think that's going to happen I don't think I don't think the Spotify Joe Riggum relationship is going to continue You think it's going to be ended? I think it probably will be

Well then why is he doing all these apology videos He's trying to make it right I think Yeah but he he did his apology videos today Well he did the second one today But they recently just deleted 70 some episodes Was that before or after the second? I think it was about the same time I think it was like maybe the day before

But I don't even Well, like Alex said, he's got to stand up and get some, you know, what? Some balls. Yeah. Are you allowed to say that? Yeah, man. He's, like, he's being sort of weak about it. I mean, you know, like, why can't he just roundhouse these people?

You know what I mean? Well, look, and the reality is, man, is like, none of us are racist, dude. Like, I mean, don't get me wrong. Well, that's a thing that they're racist people out there. That's the way that people, like, in other, like, media, what people to think is that all, white people are racist and they're not. Let me actually see if I can pull up something real quick. And it's just crazy that, you know.

Dude, it, you know, and luckily we're not using my real name, because I'm not getting trouble with this comment. But it seems like, you know, a lot more black people are racist towards white people nowadays. Yeah. Oh, that's, no. I mean, you speaking of truth is not going to be, uh, uh, uh, uh, You know, but I'm just going to tell you all something, though. You never know, man. People are getting canceled for spouting off the truth.

But it is. I'm going to tell you, like, 20-something years ago, I moved from Colorado to South Carolina. That's where my wife's family is from, by the way. Colorado. Colorado, Wyoming. Dang. So it is a, like, shock when you move to the south because in the, in Colorado, people really see, like, color, like they did. in the south.

I'm sorry. I'm trying to find a, I'm trying to find this. But the color was like, it was more like black people, not liking white people. When I came here, I was like, oh my God.

Why do these people hate me? What did I do? It was so wrong. Yeah, and I can't find the, the comment. So when we did the Kyle Riddenhouse podcast, and I said the N-word, literally going word for word for what defense said in a

transcript, We started getting hate on Instagram. I think I'm the one that actually said the word. No, I did. No, I did. You did? Yeah, I did. And so we started getting hate. There was this person that commented on our photo, which, by the way, like, we never

use Instagram. And it's always funny. Like, if we get more hate on Instagram than just randomly from nowhere. Oh, really? Yeah, it's strange. And we don't even use Instagram, but people, like, come to our Instagram. our thing. And we don't even have that many followers on Instagram or nothing, because we don't use it. And, but someone came there, not just someone, there was like two or three people that

came there and commented, you are a racist piece of garbage. You and Sherry, how dare you say the in-word and blah, blah. And so I responded, I was like, look, we were literally saying it word for word transcript-wise. It's not, it's in context. It's the same thing. Yeah, and they're like, I don't care how you say it. And by the way, these weren't black people doing this. These were white people. Oh yeah. A lot of white people do that stuff. Yeah. It's weird. Because most black people understand context. Mm-hmm. They, they understand that like if you're not racist just because you may say that word. I mean, like I said, I'm not... If you're white, you cannot claim the race card. Like, when it comes to that. Yeah. Like, you can't, you just can't, man. Like, I don't understand when people do that.

because a lot of, like some white people nowadays get way more fired. When it's just a bog. Right. You guys didn't even mean to be racist. And they're getting more fired up about it than black. Than black people are. That's just weird. Yeah.

That's just weird. And that happens a lot of times in a lot of like freaking situations. I have news for people. We have a lot of black listeners. Yeah, we do. And listen, a lot of the black people are like, a lot of the black people are telling the white people lay off. Do you guys know who the Hodge twins are?

Oh, yeah, of course we do. I love them. You guys should, like, hit them up and have them on your podcast. Yeah, we need to. They'd be cool. I'm actually wearing, I'm wearing one of their shirts right now. Oh, that's awesome. Which shirt is it, white privilege?

Here's my white privilege card. No, it's the 1776 one. I love that one. With the stars? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. They're awesome. They're awesome guys.

But, no, honestly, but, I mean, not pulling the black friend thing, even though we have. Oh, you already told Alex that. No, I know. But listen, we have a lot of black listeners. And I'm so, listen, so all the black listeners out there right now, I know you guys have her back. Oh, absolutely.

And that is. And that's the thing about Joe Rogan. His black listeners have us back to, because they're not dumb. And if you just go read the Joe Rogan comments long enough, I mean, you can see many black people that are comment on his shit and be like, dude, is taken out of context. There were many they were even saying, I've seen most of these episodes, and I knew what you were talking about.

Yeah. I wasn't pissed off. Alex gave a really good point. It's a lot, or maybe you did, I don't know, a lot of the white people are the ones that are getting pissed off. It's a woke, cancel culture people. Yep. But the reality is that sometimes you got to talk. And by the way, we're going to have a Black Lives Matter podcast very soon.

With my daughter's like one of her best friends. Yeah, he's a football. He's a college football. player. He's a defensive back, right? And we met this guy on... New Year's Eve. No, yeah, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, whatever.

Yeah, it transitioned to New Year's Day until like five in the morning. Oh, geez. Yeah, it was like the worst day after, too, I've ever felt. But, yeah, this guy's going to come on for our Black Lives Matter podcast. And I told him, dude, I was like, look, man. And I don't want to say this about it. What I'm saying is that as a football player, right? And by the way, he's trying to go pro.

He's trying to like kind of transition into the, whether it be NFL, Canadian Football League, whatever. He's kind of trying to transition into there. But I had a conversation on him for like four hours that night. I mean, we were like here on this couch for like freaking three hours talking about everything. And he wants to do a podcast himself. And I was like, dude, I think you should. Yeah, he wants to do one with. faith too which is sweet but i said i think you should because i said you know given the fact that you're

in a locker room with with people of all diverse opinions and thoughts and beliefs right um but the fact that you acknowledge you know we talked about the black lives matter movement we talked about all this stuff and man it was like it wasn't like i was talking to someone this black that just automatically hates the idea of anyone white saying anything about anything this dude was it was just me and this dude not color oriented. It was me and a guy talking about the freaking crazy shit that's going on in this world. And there was no difference.

And so I told him, I was like, look, I said, I don't want to say this. I said, but, you know, we should do, I said, we're coming out with a Black Lives Matter podcast. And I was like, and I don't know if you want to even think about coming on a podcast with that shit, right? But would you? And he's like, absolutely.

I was like, okay. I was like, well, do you want to use your rules? real name because we don't have to use real no use my real name i don't give a damn he's like because that's like i and i said look and by the way i said dude we we i'm not telling you anything to say i'm not telling you what you can say and what you can't like you tell me your opinion on everything as a black dude that grew up as a black guy played college football has been a part of this environment and you know just the you know your teammates your brothers just like military most of those guys are black on his team he's he's you know obviously his whole family's black you know i mean he's grew up in in a in a town

which by the way this town is you know there's some rough parts of this town and and i think you know kind of that whole situation knowing his culture and where he came from versus mine and that's something we talked about too i was like i just want your opinion on the the shit and and i'm not telling you not to say like if you disagree with anything i say please do but that's not but at the end of the podcast if you disagree with me we are still fucking cool. Like, we, we are still 100% cool. Because I know you as a person.

And, but I think this dude is smart enough. And that's the thing about him, he's not a moron. It's not the fact that he's black. It's not the fact that he's black and feels like he has to be on board with Black Lives Matter and Democrats. It's the fact that he's black and is smart. He's smart. He's smart and he is, he's got the, what is it called?

Common Sense, Street Smarts. And if you have a... degree in business. He has a lot of things going for him this, you know, face for him. Yeah. And we talk so much about like, dude, we want you to do this because like you are the typical American person that just so happens to be black. And by the way, and I even talked to him about it. I was like, I don't call you African American because you were born here, right? And you're like, yeah. I was like, well, you're an American. You're the exact same as me. I mean, I don't call myself Indian American. or Irish American, and black people should not call themselves African American because they're not Africans.

If you were born here, you are an American. And I think that's what's got so lost. It's like people want to trash this damn country because they identify with some other country. But the reality is, is the reason that you're here is because those other countries are trash. And they're not trash because they want to be. They're trashed because their systems have always failed them. And now we're getting into a system in America where America is fell in us. Everyone.

And so it's like our- Regardless of our color. So are we all going to like migrate to like Switzerland or some shit? And be like, yeah, I'm American Switzerland. Because F America, because they screwed us. It'll be kind of like the cheese. It'll be like American Swiss. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

You're probably right. That was good. I like that. American Swiss. Good. But anyway, so he's going to come on soon, and that's going to be a great podcast. This podcast tonight was, we just want to talk about the Jorgon thing. And I think it's very important to talk about it. Absolutely.

I think this is the number one most important topic right now. Alex, I think your consensus, I guess, is he's being too big. I'll just say it. He's kind of being a bitch a little bit. Yeah, I mean, he would definitely whip my ass, but, you know. Like it. Like, definitely. But, I mean, in this aspect, yeah, I really do think he's being a little bit of a pansy. You know, he's been completely honest in his other podcast.

I mean, why stop? You know, just keep doing what you're doing. You know, I mean, and if the thing that people need to realize is, like, if you get canceled and if you've tried everything in your power and you've been honest and you've stayed your ground, and you still get canceled, pick up and go somewhere else. Yeah, at least you have dignity. Yeah, man, and that's one thing I think he's sacrificing.

He just needs to like, you know, like if someone asks me my opinion, it doesn't matter who I'm a... Yeah, like if you, and it kind of goes back to a relationship. If you, if your relationship ends, and it's because you fucked up, right? Yeah, you're going to leave that relationship and be the saddest you can fucking ever be for a long time, right? Because you know that it was your decision that caused whatever that breakup was, right?

But if you leave that situation, you broke up with whoever, whoever did it, but you knew you were in the right. At least you still carry your dignity. And that dignity alone will get you through those months after. And I think that's, and I think that's, and I think that's. something that has to be said. Like, at the very least, this podcast, I think Ger Rogan, everyone, we have to maintain our dignity and we have to do things that we know are right. And I think that Sherry and I have done everything we freaking can to inform people.

I don't think we've ever, ever, ever, ever intentionally misled anyone, ever. And to be quite honest, I mean, I don't want to like toot our own horn. I don't really think we've ever fucking misled anybody, period. I think you could go back to all of our podcasts, and anything we've talked about medical study-wise, vitamins, the COVID shit, the vaccine stuff, the whatever, if you go back to what we have talked about and you look it up, like factually look up a medical study

that we have talked about, you will find it. So it's not like we're bullshit. I will say this, and, you know, the fellow fans can take it for me. I've tried this shit and it's worse. so I mean you guys heard it for me you know like it's worked you know and everything up you know

I've yet to find something that's incorrect yeah I mean sometimes he mispronounce the shit out of word dude I do that all I can't even say court court sentenry however I don't know no there was actually speaking of a black guy there's a guy and um I hope he don't mind me calling him out

I'm not gonna call him out but he actually he commented after last night's podcast and it was on Gitter which I'm about to delete Gitter, by the way. I hate to say it, but I think, well, no, I don't know. Someone said they banned Robert Malone. I don't think they did, though. I don't think they actually banned him, but there was someone...

Gitter's supposed to be pretty safe, though, for... Yeah, so... People that like truth, right? So this is... I don't know how you say this dude's name, but he comments on a lot of her stuff, and we appreciate you, bro, but his name is... I don't know, it's W-E-L-L-L-Y, W-3-L-L-L-Y-F. Kind of reminds me like Willie.

Willie? I don't know. Willie? That's what I was going to say. Maybe Willie or something. But yeah, this dude, he's like, by the way, Investing Earth podcast, he sent me a YouTube video of how you pronounce Justin Trudeau. That's hilarious. The Canadian thing.

So how do you say his name? I don't know. But then he, but then like an hour later, he posts a good episode in Best the Earth, as always. So you're not saying Justin Trudeau's name right. No, I guess not. Is that Trudeau? But who really gives it. this shit about Justin Trudeau.

Trudeau. Is that Trudeau? It could be. I'm going to call him Justin Treho. Yeah, and then no one can tell you you you're pronouncing it wrong. Because he is a ho. I mean, he is. Yeah, he is.

When a prime minister has to go in hiding. He's a tyrannical ho. Yeah. When you have to go in hiding because all these people are protesting, that tells you, like, you better look in the mirror. No, it does. It's on those things, man. Nowadays we are all geared for censorship, man. It's like...

But listen, I hope that... And by the way, I hope Alex, you yourself, will come to our platform when we figure it out because it's pissing me off. There's a lot of behind-the-scenes shit. And that's one of the things, like Trump's social media thing that's coming out, by the way.

Now they've pushed Trump's truth social back to March. Right? There's just so many kinks in. Well, he has an entire... team of millions of dollars working on this platform. Now, we do actually have a social media platform up right now that people can go join. We've not released it yet. And the reason, and let me tell you why we've not released it, because there's probably

going to be bugs somewhere. And we don't have a team. So when people start just bitching and complaining about this and that. And you've already had a best friend do that. Yes. And I'm like, dude, like, I'm going to have to devote my life to fixing bugs. 24-7. Even though predominantly

it's bug-free, I mean, it's not bug-free, but predominantly, if you want to go on this platform and you want to like have a timeline and all that shit, you have it. But there will be things like sharing a link that might not show a freaking image correctly or

you know, just things like that that are going to pop up. Yeah. So, I don't know. But we're going to create our platform because I know, that if Joe Rogan gets censored, we're done. Well, we don't know that. I think so.

I mean, I would say, like, keep your head high for now, you know? Yeah, I mean, we... You guys, like, if you do, just, like, go down swinging. That's all I can say. Oh, we will. We will.

And I hope, you know, I hope Joe Rogan, if he does... I mean, literally, he should be doing something now about the fact they're deleting all of his episode. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Because like I said, again, I'm going to say it one more time. Joe Rogan, whatever he does for himself, he's doing for everyone else below him. Yeah.

It's like an umbrella. But here's the thing. This is what we have to understand. This is at the end of day. This is the, this is the consensus of this entire episode we're talking about. More people need to go independent to do their thing to make sure that the people don't want to listen to them can listen to them. The problem is that a lot of these people get big because of these platforms, right? So if you're going to go on platforms and get big,

you have to already start planning on an alternative method to where when you do get banned, because you will. If you talk about anything that the mainstream media doesn't agree with, they are going to ban you eventually. And so you just need to go ahead and have a platform to where people can come and listen to you alternatively to wherever they found you. and the shitty part about that is is that once you have that

set group of people that come in to your platform it's just hard to establish more people because you can't really pull in. I hate to say it, but it's almost like... Because Google's in control. It's kind of almost like InfoWars. Who wants to go on their... I mean, I'm sure people do.

Well, Info Wars uses other podcasts, but you see what... You see what, you know, even when Alex... By the way, whether people agree or disagree with Alex Jones, he is one of the most talented guest

you could possibly have on a podcast. I mean, when he goes on a podcast, Alex Jones, Andrew Schwartz, all these people, he gets the biggest numbers. Regardless of whether or not some people think he's crazy, by the way, Alex Jones has been right

about 90% of the shit he said. Yeah. But the thing is, is like, he goes on these platforms to bring over people still to his platform because he can't anymore. But the problem is that all of every, almost every episode he's went on of other people's podcast, they have deleted.

Yeah, they're deleting him. They delete him from Joe Rogan now. Yeah. That's deleted. And they've deleted him from Andrew Schultz, you know, the comedian. He's been a lot of different shit, but they delete every episode he's on. Yeah. And Joe Rogan is going, I believe Joe Rogan is going to be the new actions.

I see. I mean, I think at this point, it's just a matter of who's going to give up first. Well, I don't, I don't think. I don't think we are going to give up. And when I say we, I mean, we the people. Dude, yeah, amen. I mean, that's kind of what I'm getting at. Because I'm never going to give up on this shit, you know?

And by the way, Alex, what is your message to people around the world, by the way? We have a lot of people from New Zealand, Australia, Canada, and I know you probably don't ever go on podcasts where you talk to millions of people. But what is your message for people around the world in their same situation? They're going through the same shit. Yeah, man. would just say like never be afraid of you know to stand up for what you believe in um and don't be ashamed of it don't be afraid you know because like i think i told you this the other night we were talking um jad but like give me liberty or give me death i'm saying yeah absolutely and that's that's

that's like that's what you know if we if we die because we were fighting for freedom i mean that's a great way to die that's one of the only ways that i would literally that's what Literally, I swear to God, I've been a firefighter and stuff and all that shit. And I've been to police, I've done the police thing, but I was like, even the police thing is like, I don't know if I should be dying for chasing people for weed and shit. I don't know about that. I probably wouldn't die for that. Yeah. But like, but, you know, but me, it's like this is the only cause I would literally be willing to fight a war over is our freedoms.

And I feel like we are totally in a war right now. We are in a war. Yeah. I mean, maybe not like a, definitely not like a physical war yet. I don't know. Psychological right now. But, I mean, I would just say, like, everyone around the world, man, just keep doing what you're doing, you know. And don't get discouraged because we're with you.

I mean, there are millions of people that feel the same way you do. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the problem is the reason you haven't heard from them, you know, from them is they're being censored or they're being canceled. Yeah, we had a, we had a group. group. Did we reach out to them or they reached out? I can't remember, but the people in Australia, the indigenous people in Australia that came out with these videos about how Australian government was treating them and taking their kids and vaccinating them. And then of course the Australian government came out and said, no, that's not happening. Yeah, you guys had a, you had the video on your podcast at one point. Yeah. That guy was talking about what was going on. That was, dude, that was, that was, uh, I was pretty heartbreaking to hear

And I've not heard from them since, dude. Like, that's terrible. The crazy thing is, is, like, we reached back out to them. I know they reached out to us, and we reached back out to them, not heard from them one time, I've reached out to them a couple times, not heard of anything from them.

I don't know if they're even freaking still alive. They've not really seen any more videos. Nothing they've done. They're just, they kind of disappeared. And I was watching their YouTube channel, not there anymore. And then recently we had these to turn. out of Australia, which we want to bring on, by the way, if you're listening,

these attorneys that are in Australia, they are fighting the good fight, as you will say, for civil rights and human rights. And they reached out to us, I don't know, three weeks ago and said, look, we want to come on your podcast, some of our partners and our law firms that they listen to you guys. And we want to get our message out about what's really going on. And, you know, these people are fighting, you know, actually she, well, I don't, I don't, I want to say her name. But the attorney sent me in a messenger thing yesterday and said, Look who is just recently looked at my LinkedIn profile.

And she sent a screenshot of it, right? And it was the United States, no, sorry, it was three people, right? Or I think it was three people. I could be wrong. Three people. And you know where they worked? They worked at the United States Department of Justice. And she's in Australia.

In Australia. And they're looking at her LinkedIn. And they've been in the media and all this stuff because they're fighting for the people in Australia. And they are being targeted. And this is a group of attorneys. Attorneys, yeah. And they are being targeted. And we want so bad to bring them on to tell their story.

It's just a time. It's a time zone thing we're trying to get right right now. But we're going to bring them on. But this has happening all over the world. And for those of you, I keep saying a lot, I think, Alex, I think that you're, I think you're a Christian as well. And I always say, like, if you're, whether you're a Christian or not, you know, there's one thing the Bible says. It's like we're living out a playbook right now of what the Bible says is going to happen. And regardless of anything, you know, people talk about the New World Order as being a conspiracy theory.

But, you know, you translate that to the Bible. The Bible says in one world government is exactly the same thing as what's the New World Order. And all these things that are happening unilaterally around the world, the tyranny, the, the, the oppression of people. All of these things are happening everywhere. I mean, you just said basically what I was going to say. I mean, like Christian or not, you guys, we deserve our freedom and our right. Exactly.

I mean, we're not supposed to be oppressed. And that's what this government is shooting for. You know, like that, they want us to have zero choice. You know, so like, religion, religion aside. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Religion aside, that matters. You know, we're all humans. We all deserve our freedom.

Yeah, we're all humans. And we all do. We deserve our human rights. Yeah, there's a reason they're fighting so hard for the people not to hear the truth. And it's because if the people have an option to hear the truth, they're never going to comply. And there's a statement that I've always, I've loved more than any statement that is that you cannot. And by the way, this kind of goes to Jerr-Rogan thing. you cannot comply your way out of tyranny.

Exactly. And that's what I believe that, you know, and I hate to say it. Like Canada, I'm so proud of those people up there for doing the Freedom Convoy and all that shit. We've not really had a thing like that. I think January 6th as much shit and hate has been put on that, even though, you know, I get. Like, there were some things that we shouldn't have done. I think it was coerced into doing. but that was still a protest, you know, to the point of, like, we demand our freedoms.

This is what people were there for. They knew what was coming. I think that was such a dumpster fire that people are, like, afraid to do that again. Exactly. And that's what they want. Like, they want to make sure you don't protest the government. But you can go burn down buildings and still things out of stores, and it's okay. Yeah, that's okay.

Yeah, that's completely legal and that's okay. People can do that. well I hate this I mean I I freaking hate to tell I want to say this the wrong way but I'm going to say it the best way I know how if you take away people's God-given rights and freedoms and you take away the Constitution January 6th isn't shit yeah I mean I agree with you man you know it's gonna it's gonna hit the ban and by the way all the people that you don't want against you those are the quiet ones no no no even the quiet ones, but all the people that have the skills and the techniques and the training and every damn thing else to not allow a government to a tyrannical take over. I'm talking about ex-Nabody Seals, Green Berets. I'm talking about law enforcement. I'm talking to all these people. They're not going to deal with that shit. They're not going to allow the government to oppress the people, I hope. And you have to put, I hope, because, you know, I...

I'm just following orders. I'm just thinking about everything that's happened so far, and I thought for sure. Well, yeah, but I get it. There would be a stand-up by now, and there's not really been a stand-up except for January 6th. But that's why there's a vaccine mandate in the military. They don't really give a damn about the vaccine in the military. They just wanted to see who they need to kick out of the military and replace with woke. That's what's all they want to do.

I think there's still hope. You know, I mean, there's, it's every day, closer and closer. Yep. So, I mean, I think it's only a matter of time. Maybe there's Joe Rogan thing's a good thing. Maybe the Jerr-Ruggan thing is a good thing. Yeah, maybe that's...

I mean, honestly, honestly, it might work in our favor, you know. And also, you know, the shit with, like, the Supreme Court, you know, going against the vaccine mandates, that's also a win for us. Yes, exactly. Yeah, it is. You know, like, and if little things like that keep on happening and... You know, I believe there's still some hope, you know, because, like, I just believe in the people, man. I think at the end of the day, us, you know, like people like you and me and people that believe in freedom, I think at the end of the day, we're going to win.

I agree. You know? I hope so. I hope you're right. I hope so, too. I want to believe that. And, yeah, I do. We just got to do stuff like this, man.

People can't be afraid to get out there and, you know, fire. Yeah, bite and express their opinions and, you know, stand up for what's right. Stand up for what's right. I mean, God knows the other side does it all the time. Why can't, you know, people like us do it? Yeah, some of those people stand up for what they think is right, and some people stand up because they just love chaos. And some people stand up because they have money back in the end.

And they're not allowed to say anything else. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the problem is there's a reason why over the course of history that monopolies have been, number one, illegal. And it's because when you monopolize anything, such as big tech or any of this other shit, you get a type of government. We have a big tech government now

that controls more than our own government does. And we're seeing it now. We're seeing it. Big tech is controlling free speech in our constitutional rights. And if big tech can figure out a way to control the narrative on our Second Amendment and our Third Amendment, Fourth and Fifth,

they will do it. And they can easily do that by misinformation. You know, the same shit they're preaching, that's what they're doing. It's misinformation. The things they're doing about Joe Rogan, the things are doing about podcasting, the things are doing about white people, and their things are doing about all this, it is misinformation. I think when it comes down to it, man, it's like at the end of the day,

we're going to have to get old school on all these people. We're just going to have to take it to the street. Yeah, I'd love to go old school again. I've often said that. You know, I mean, like, because they're going to block us on social media and everything. else. We're just going to have to like march on the street. That's what I think is going to happen at the end of the day. Yeah, it'll be very interesting to see what happens

with us, man. And I think like what Alex is talking about though, too, us marching on the streets, like before there was social media, obviously people set up these kind of marches before, like Martin Luther King. He set up all these marches. He got killed because he was bringing people together.

Yeah, I know. But what I'm saying is there's got to be a way to set up these freedom marches without social media. It happened before and it can happen again. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I agree with that. But it's like now there's so much a big tech that controls the narrative of everything. That's why I'm saying not on social media.

Somehow that's going to happen. Do you guys know, do you guys know in Morse code? Yeah, I know a little bit. Yeah. We should just set that out, man. We should just like set up a meeting with Morse code. Well, did you see Elon Musk tweet and said, By the way, the government can't listen in on if you have a ham radio or whatever he said.

CB radio, ham radio, even though they can. Oh. But he was saying they can't control that. That's interesting. Even though you have to be licensed. But I want to learn how to do that. What Alex just said. Ham radio.

No. Morris Code. Morris Code. Well, it's just a number of either signals, number or sounds, whatever, that dictate a letter. That equals the letter or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, and you can do that on Hamredio, too. Yeah, I mean, there's, you know, and that's another thing.

These platforms have come out with encrypted platforms such as, you know, WhatsApp used to be that, right? WhatsApp used to be a texting app that you can text anyone around the world. You still can. And it was encrypted to where no one can download or, you know, offload the information that you're texting. But guess who owns WhatsApp? Facebook does now. So you might as well just say. goodbye to WhatsApp and now you've got telegram and stuff like that but you know all look they say

anything's encrypted but anyone can see anything anyone can literally join a telegram a feed and just use it however they need to i mean they can't censor you technically according to yeah that's what Alex is saying go back to the morse like code times yeah what's what's what's gonna happen all this all this like go to y'all's house on horseback and then i'll give you like a message yeah you're not too far You're not crazy far. Like the British are coming. Yeah, and we'll just start doing the beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. But that's also why I want to talk about, I want to start talking about their podcast about survival and people getting out in the woods.

I mean, I don't want to sound like doom and gloom, but I'm just saying people do need to be aware of what we used to have to do. You know, like, how are you going to survive without the government? And can you? And get used to. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people nowadays are really soft. So I think a lot of people would die. Yeah, get used to the suck is what they say it. Yeah, and people don't know how to endure pain anymore.

I mean, everything's handed to them. Yeah, discomfort, all that shit is bad. Well, Alex, look, man, we really appreciate you coming on. This is one of our longer podcasts we've done. But, you know, it's just a conversation, man. Yeah, it's awesome. Like, that's great. Yeah, yeah, thanks.

Thanks, you guys for having me on. I really, really enjoyed it. Yeah, we did too. and we'll definitely probably have you back on. This was just kind of an impromptu podcast. We want to talk about the Joe Rogan thing. I think it's important. And I think people are probably thinking

to all the things we're talking about right now. And whatever happens with this, I feel like something's going to break soon. I don't think we're going to have to wait a crazy long time. So if we have another Joe Rogan podcast, it means some shit happened. Oh, yeah, for sure.

But Alex, thank you so much, man. and we appreciate you listening, by the way, just as we do everyone. And by the way, any of you out there that want to come on the podcast, want to share your opinions, definitely do so. We'll be willing to have you. And you guys are all our family, just like Alex.

So thank you, Alex, again. Yeah, absolutely. You guys take care of. All right, you too, ma'am. All right, bye. That was Alex. Yeah, and so Alex, yeah, I mean... That's amazing.

What kind of conversations you can have with people with like minds. Yeah, we just, you know, he reached out to. us that he uh him and his wife listened to us and i was like hey man and he's like yeah i'd like talk to you guys sometime like call us yeah i mean that's the way it is and listen to like we've had a really long podcast we have ideas and you know yeah we have but guys i don't know man i don't know what's going to happen all this shit but but we have to think positive chad don't be gloomy we do

we do um man i don't know don't think gloomy we're going to, it's going to, something positive is going to come out of this. I hope so, but I mean, nothing's really come positive for the past. Well, how many years? Like you said, maybe this is the hump. Maybe. We'll see. Yeah, hopefully that's the case.

Hopefully it is. And maybe, you know, everything happens for a reason. God puts things in our laps for a reason. It's going to happen the way it's supposed to happen. Yeah. But we all have to be speakers of the truth. Yeah. And I will say, you know, one of the things I've thought about lately, too, is like, you know, being more spiritual.

You know, and in regards to whether you're spiritual or not, religious or not, I mean, just finding something to disconnect. And that's something I have to do. And it's tough with the podcast because you're always connected. Yeah, Chad's been stressed out all day to day. Well, it's just kidding. You just have to connect, man. You've got to connect to what you're experiencing. And it sometimes is detrimental to you.

And it has been to me lately. But I feel like we got to do it. Because if we don't, who will? Because, I mean, I don't know. Well, it's a way. We got to do what's right. We've got to have a voice for. For other people that can't.

Yeah. I mean, anyone could do a podcast, but we've done this for three years. We've got a lot of listeners now. And so, you know, and if someone wants to, and by the way, I encourage you guys, start a podcast of your own. I mean, if you guys want tips on how you can do that and be a voice somewhere, whether it be YouTube or a podcast or whatever, dude, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll. definitely help you. I mean, I'm in marketing. That's what I do for a living. So a lot of you that listen to our podcast, you found us because of my marketing. I mean... Oh, not because we're great.

No, I mean, I'm just saying, but a lot of new people find us because I know how to tag things and stuff. And so I'll be willing to help any of you guys to get a voice and to reach out to, you know, to people. Because I mean, we need, the more people we have, the better. We're not ever going to, like, be in competition with anyone or any of that shit. we're always going to be helpful and we want the best for this country in this world. That's what we want. Yes. And, um, but guys, we love you.

Thanks for listening to another Investing Earth podcast. We enjoyed it. I hope you did. And until next time, peace out. Let's light this shit up, man. Yeah. This is what this song talks about. Light it up, baby.

Light it up. Light it up.