Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - The End Times Podcasts Ep 3 | The Bible Examined | Leviticus & Numbers

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

Welcome to this special edition of the End Times Podcast! In today's episode, we explore the profound chapters of Leviticus and Numbers from the Bible, delving into their timeless significance. Additionally, we engage in a thought-provoking discussion on the prevailing prominence of the rift between Muslims and Jewish communities today, tracing its roots back to the historical figures of Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac. Join us as we set out on a journey to unravel the complexities of these ancient narratives and explore the compelling reasons many believe that the end times may be drawing near. All of this and more on this episode of The End Times Podcasts Ep 3 | The Bible Examined | Leviticus & NumbersEnd Times Now With BryX/TwitterFacebookRumbleInstagram

And welcome to Investigator Earth podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Sherry say hello. And hopefully people are going to learn something tonight. Hey, guys. What's up? Hey, girls, what's up? We do have 70% of the listeners that are girls.

I have to say, hey, girls, what's up? Another night of our Bible study. So glad you guys are here. Yeah, I don't know if we should call it Bible study. I mean, I guess we should. But a lot of people when they hear Bible study, think of like going to church on Wednesday. night and it's like you have this like set set of rules of how you're going to study the Bible and anyways um yes but it is a Bible study but let's uh call it a Bible breakdown our

thoughts our opinions are our outside perspective of the Bible um guys welcome to the show it is November the 30th 2023 it is 555 p.m. and uh sherry and I have had something weird going on with like three numbers or three the same numbers we are seeing them everywhere all the time I see ones, threes, fours, and fives all the time. Yeah, it is strange. It is 5.55 p.m. So maybe that means good luck for this episode. Because I got to be honest, we tried to do this episode last night, and we were going to do it

the night before. It just hasn't worked out. I don't know why. I think, you know, maybe God's like, hey, now's not the right time. Now's not the right time. Maybe tonight will be the right time. We will see. But anyways, guys, welcome back.

We are going to be talking about the Bible. We are going to have this outside perspective. So for those of you that are very devout to whatever you are, whether Muslim, Christian, Jew, you know, I think it may hopefully benefit you guys to listen to our perspective. People that are struggling with spirituality or just struggling with everything we see and feel in the world today. There are Christians and there are people out there. And I do consider myself a Christian primarily. I came from a Christian household. Sherry came from a Jewish household.

So we're kind of coming at this at two different perspectives. and but I would say that anyone out there that doesn't ever, you know, that says, hey, I don't question anything and I never have or I never will. I just don't buy that personally. But who knows? You could be one of those people that say, look, I have 100% faith in what I have faith in and I know that for certain. But, you know, and great. And if you, if you're one of those people, awesome. And, you know, we're very happy for you. It's just not always necessarily our case. we look at the Bible in this series, the same way we look at anything, right? The same thing we look at the pandemic or, you know, Bigfoot or, I mean, Bigfoot's not really a good analogy,

but we just look at it from an outside perspective. We're trying to get answers. I think there are more people today that are depressed and down. There's higher suicide rates now than ever before. I think more people feel hopeless today than they have in a very long time. and for good reason we look around this world we look around at what's going on in the world and it's depressing it's sad and um especially when you have things going on in your personal life or things going on in your inner circle and then if you don't have faith in something or you don't

believe that something is better out there whether it be after you die or or whatever the case is um it can get depressing because you know you you kind of feel like you're all alone and loneliness is It's one of the toughest things for people to get through and get by. Actually, I was reading something the other day. The depression is primarily driven by loneliness in some way, shape, or form. Even if you have people around you, you still feel alone in a lot of cases. Because I do get depression sometimes, and for sometimes I'm like, why am I even depressed? I have so much going for me.

You know, I have got a good career. I got a good husband. I got great dogs. I got a great kid. Not necessarily in that order. A great listening audience. Yes, a great audience. like why you don't have a reason to be depressed but sometimes you know something can trigger it or

whatever and there's how many times I get depressed as well even though my life is great there's things that trigger depression and a lot of it is when you feel alone yeah and I think too guys is that you know just as much as I've read I've read the Bible technically I've read the Bible front to cover um you know a while back and the funny thing is is now that we're breaking down and analyzing the Bible, I realized how much I didn't actually read, meaning like, comprehend. Yeah, I didn't comprehend. I didn't take it in.

I was reading it because I was supposed to be reading it. I was going to Bible studies. I was doing these things, you know, growing up. I was even in a church choir growing up, right? And it's like all these things. And even when I got baptized and saved, I knew what the meaning was behind it, but I didn't, you know, I was young, right? And I didn't understand fully like, what, okay, I get, this is the thing to do.

I'm supposed to get saved and I'm supposed to get baptized. do all these things. But do I really, and then as you get older, especially with everything we've been talking about with the podcast, there's a lot of questions. And I think so many people have those questions. Even people that grew up like I did or Sherry or whoever, there's just a lot of questions. And we're going to try, I don't know if we're going to answer. We're not going to answer any questions.

Hopefully something that happens over the course of this series answers our questions. And so obviously we're not God. We're not preachers. and maybe we can just shine some insight into something further that maybe we haven't thought about before. So before we get into the episode, I do want to say that the very best way that you guys can find us, if you want to see our personal stuff on a daily basis,

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But over on X, if you actually want to see stuff we may not get to on the podcast or things that we may not get. We're definitely not going to talk about on Facebook because we'll just be banned or you'll never see it on your timeline. X is the place to do that. So I do encourage all of you to do that. And last thing I will say before we get into this, the very best way you can help us is to go and rate us good in any platform you listen to us. If it's on Spotify, if it's on Apple, please go do that. We talk about controversial things.

We are not afraid to go on one side or the other on certain topics. And we get backlash for it. There will be people that hate us. There will be people that downrate us. But the way I see this entire journey is that we're just really cultivating, our hardcore main audience, like our family, right? I mean, right. And so whoever survives through all of the things that we talk about and discuss and have opinions on and all of that stuff, that's going to be in the end, our core family.

And I think we have those people. I mean, we have a core listener base that we build over five years. We're so proud of. And we are so proud of you guys. Everyone's been sending us their Spotify rap thing saying we're the number one podcast for them or what, you know. So that's amazing. And we do think all of you for that. So anyways, let's get into the episode.

So last two episodes, we did Genesis and Exodus. And in Genesis, it was essentially the creation story. But in the creation story, obviously it talked about Adam and Eve and why sin happened and all of this stuff. And it also got into Abraham and his sons. And Abraham and his sons were extremely important in Genesis because it talked about the family tree and something we're going to get to. that Sherry and I discussed kind of, you know, on the side last night was can we decipher what is happening in the Middle East, especially in terms of the Jewish people and the Muslims. And I think it really started back in Abraham's Day. Abraham, if you guys remember from Genesis, Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael was an illegitimate son. He was a son that was had by Hagar or Hagar, this lady that was not his,

wife because he believed alongside Sarah, which was his wife, Sarah was too old to get pregnant. So they both decided, hey, we're going to go and pregnant Hagar to have a son, which became Ishmael. Even though God was angry about this, because God said, I will provide you a son, but you have to be patient. But they were not patient. Instead, Abraham and Sarah decided, no, we're going to have her own son because there's no way Sarah's ever going to get pregnant.

And so they went and had Ishmael. So, long story short, eventually, I think when Sarah was in her 90s, I think they had Ishmael when she was in her 80s or 70s or whatever with Hagar. But then now you have 90 year old Sarah, which God told them, I'm going to give you a baby. They laughed about it. And then they had a baby. And it was Isaac. Isaac went on to become the leader of the Jews. And he actually was named Israel, which is how the country of Israel has become or has.

now become named Israel. So we're going to talk about this dispute because what is happening in the Middle East between the Jewish people and the Muslim people is nothing more really than the very first dispute between Abraham or actually not between Abraham but between Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael was not technically the son of Abraham and Sarah, which is what God wanted. Isaac was the only firstborn son of Abraham and Sarah, and this is where stuff got crazy, right? This is where from the very beginning, even in Genesis, the beginning creation story chapters of the Bible, this is when things started to get dicey. And we talked about in the last couple episodes, man, when you read the Bible, especially the first episodes,

you look at this stuff, you're like, this sounds crazy. Like, this sounds as crazy if not crazier in some ways than what's going on today. you know, we look at God as this loving God and this almighty God and he is an almighty God. But there's so many questions that you have to ask yourself. And there's been a lot of people, by the way, they have written in and said, hey, guys, you know, here's the reason why this happened. You know, and we had had a lot of questions. We'll talk more about that in just a little bit as well. But anyway, so that's essentially Genesis.

And so then Exodus, and we're not going to go into full recap, we encourage all of you to go listen to both those episodes. Exodus is when Moses was leading the Jewish people out of Egypt. And this was part of when Moses was walking out of Egypt. He was getting out of Egypt. He wanted to get out of Egypt. And he encountered this being, this angel slash God in a bush that was burning that was telling him, you have to go back and get your people in Egypt. And I want you to lead them to their promised land, which is Canaan, or Canaan,

which is now considered Israel. And so then the Exodus story revolves around Moses leading the people of, or the Israelites, the Jewish people out of slavery from the Egyptian gods, from the Egyptian country, and into and going towards their promised land, which God promised them, which is Israel. So that's essentially what Exodus was. It explains all this. There's a lot of stuff to be explaining that. And then we get into Leviticus. Now, before we talk about Leviticus, Leviticus is kind of essentially the way that God told his people,

the Israelites, the Jewish people, how to live, and what their rules were, their rules of holiness, their rules of you either do this or you're not obey in me, right? And these are very strict set of rules, even down to what they eat and what they can't eat. Right. There's a lot of things in this. And the reason for this is because in the beginning of time, and everyone knows about Adam and Eve,

or most people know about Adam and Eve, but apparently they ate from the wrong tree and ate the wrong apple. And because of this, they disobeyed God. Yeah. So they're not any longer pure. And so as the bloodline continues, instead of being pure humans,

we went against God. So now we have to offer God things. Absolutely. To purify ourselves. Yeah, offerings. Yeah. So in that chapter, this chapter we're getting ready

to read about. A lot of it has to do with the foods we eat and how we sacrifice things, how we pray and give things to God in order to purify ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, Sherry's right, 100%. And so through Leviticus and, you know, besides Leviticus, we're probably going to get to numbers. We may get on to even Deuteronomy.

But regardless of this, we're going to talk about some of the spicy stuff, right? The stuff that we're really seeing today, and we're going to analyze. what we believe, at least according what we've read so far and what it says in the very beginning about why the Jewish and Muslim population actually don't like each other. And that the crazy thing is like if you look at Muslim and Christianity

Muslim and Christianity is so close to each other. It's ridiculous. So for the people out there that kind of are like, oh, this Muslim, you know, this Muslim religion is so violent and vile. I want to make something very clear because this is something I've been thinking about. If you think about Hamas,

that went and did what they did in Israel when they did it, right? That's not the Muslim religion. That is not what the Muslim religion stands for. That is not what the Quran stands for. Quran does not, you know, encouraged terrorism going to kill innocent people. That's never what it encourages. Nor does the Torah, nor does the Holy Bible and whole. even actually if you look at both Bibles side by side,

and I kind of looked this up last night, and I said, what Bible is the bloodiest or most murderous? Technically, the Holy Bible is more murderous and bloody than the Quran. But we also learn, too, that they both go with the first books of the Bible. The Quran has that as well. So does the Torah. They all start the beginning kind of the same.

Yeah. Well, the Quran even believes that Jesus, Christ is a savior. Yeah. And they just don't believe that he, you know, I think they believe he was on earth, but he wasn't the Messiah. No, no, he is the Messiah. No, they 100% believe.

No, but they don't believe that he died for our sins at that time. Yes. They do not believe he was crucified. Right. But they do believe he is going to be the Savior and he is going to come back. Right. And he is going to fight the battle of the end, right? Which is exactly what Christians believe.

So the interesting thing about it to me, and we'll play devil's advocate here in just a little bit about, you know, Muslim, Jew, Christianity. We'll talk about all these things. Talk about why, even today, why the Muslims are fighting the Jews. I think it's a very interesting topic. But before we do all this, let's get into Leviticus. Let's talk about this and break this down. Israel's Guide to Holy Living. Now camp to the foot of Mount Sinai, the Israelite refugees found out what God expected of them. And he says, consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am holy. God isn't asking for perfect behavior if he were. He could have skipped the sacrificial rituals.

He set up so people could get forgiveness when they sinned. Instead, he's asking for devotion. Then he shows the Israelites now how he wants them to express their devotion. And God gives them an assortment of laws and worship rituals that will distinguish them as a holy nation, a race of people devoted to him. Now, if you remember, Wippie Goldberg said that Jewish people were not a race. She actually said this on the view. But anyways, it says it right here in the Bible, a race of people. Leviticus is a how-to book, essentially,

on how to live in the presence of the holy God by obeying him in matters such as, sacrificing animals, eating only kosher foods, observing holy days, and getting rid of ritual impurities before worshiping. So by obeying these rules, the Israelites express their devotion to God. This is what he wants from them.

In return, he promises to protect and bless them. And he says, you will eat your fill and live securely in your own land. So essentially an animal dies for a person's sin. And it goes to quote a Leviticus 1 3 through 4. If the animal you present as a burnt offering is from the herd, it must be a male with no defects. Lay your hand on the animal's head,

and the Lord will accept its death in your place to purify you, making you right with him. So Leviticus begins by explaining the most important ancient Jewish ritual, which is sacrifice, is through animal and grain sacrifices that the Israelites expressed to God their gratitude for blessings and their remorse for sin. In the eyes of the Holy God, sin is a capital offense. It has been that way from the beginning.

God warned Adam and Eve that they would die if they ate the forbidden fruit. They ate it anyway. And sin entered God's creation, dragging along death and consequence. During the Exodus, God sets up a sacrificial system. He offers to accept the death of animals as a substitute for sin. sinful human behavior or, or, yeah, or beings. And it says the life of the body is in its blood,

God explains. Now, the main point of this kind of essentially is kind of essentially. Oh, shit, I'm saying two different things there. Holy crap. Sorry. Oh, my God. Yeah, we're definitely going to hell on this one. Sorry, God. Maybe this is why maybe this is why he would not let us do this last night. Sorry, God. Essentially. Yeah, but I

said a bunch of other stuff after that. So main point. of this is God is holy and he expects the Israelites to live holy lives devoted to him. He gives them rules to live by as a way for them to express their devotion and to maintain their holiness. And so obviously the writer of this, many people believe that it is still Moses, but many scholars argue that these could have been passed along as spoken words long before anyone wrote them down, actually. This all occurred about 1440 BC and others say about 200 years later. And this all happened at the rugged Sinai Peninsula or Mount Sinai in Egypt's rugged Sinai Peninsula. So God says, I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the Lord.

It is the blood given in exchange for a life that makes purification possible. The bloody ritual also serves as a graphic reminder of how serious sin is, serious enough to warrant the death penalty. God sets up several kinds of offerings. He offers burnt offerings. This is Israel's most common sacrifice. The worshiper kills and burns an animal on the altar. This purifies the worshiper of sin. Rich people kill a bull.

Most others kill a male goat or sheep. Poor people kill a dove or a pigeon. And then also grain offerings. Grain from the harvest is brought as a thanks to God. Worshers can present it as flour, baked goods, or roasted kernels. The priest burns some of it and keeps the rest of it part of his salary. I would assume that carnivores probably killed the animals and then the vegans were the ones that were given the grain. I think this is actually where the vegans and carnivores come to light, right?

Anyways. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that does sound kind of like it. Yeah, okay. I would be the opposite, though. If I was a vegan. Well, you're getting a grain offering. No, if I was a vegan, I'd be giving the animal.

Well, no, I couldn't kill an animal. Exactly. Yeah. So I'm saying. Okay. Gotcha. Peace offering. A worshiper burns part of an animal as an expression of thanks to God.

He eats the rest of it often with family and friends. And sin and guilt offerings, these animals sacrifices purify a person who has committed specific types of sins such as stealing lying and unintentional sins such as making a rash promise as impossible to keep. Now, Moses took the anointing oil and anointed the tabernacle and everything in it, making them holy. Then he poured some of the anointing oil on Aaron's head, anointing him and making him holy for his work, Leviticus 810 through 12. Before Israelites start worshiping at the tent tabernacle under the direction of high priest Aaron and his four sons, God instructs Moses to dedicate the men and the worship center. What follows is a week of ordination rituals intended to consecrate the men and the tabernacle as holy,

devoted to serving God. At God's instruction, Moses washes the priest and dresses the church. him in their priestly uniforms. Then he sprinkles olive oil on the worship centers, furnishings, and on the priest. Centuries later, Israel kings also will be anointed with the oil to commission them for their life's work. So three animal sacrifices come next. A bull is slaughtered and burned, purifying the officer for a future work. A ram is killed and burned, but only after the priest placed their hands on it. This might be the symbol of showing their complete devotion to God and expressed in the death of the ram. And a ram of ordination is killed and

eaten by priest, some of the ram's blood is dabbed on the priest's right ear, right thumb, and right big toe, perhaps to symbolize that God considers them holy from head to toe and fit for service. On the eighth day, the priest began their ministry of leading Israel's worship rituals. This is a ministry that the descendants will continue for more than a millennium until Romans destroyed the Jerusalem temple in 8070, end in the Jewish practice of animal sacrifice. Wait a minute, back up. What ended it? Well, on the 8th day, the priest began their ministry of leading Israel's worship rituals.

This is the ministry of the descendants that will continue for more than a millennium. And this was until the Romans destroyed the Jerusalem temple in 80s 70. Oh, so because their temple was destroyed, that's why they stopped doing animal sacrifices. Yeah. Because Romans, obviously, as we get into the Bible later on, especially Jesus and, you know, all this deal, Romans were a major Disruptor. Right. And a lot of the stories of the Bible.

I don't know that. But obviously for the Jewish people as well. But it just is weird because, you know, they used to do the sacrificing thing. And I think we'll get into more of like God wanting us to even sacrifice humans for him. But Jewish people today, they still, they don't sacrifice animals, but they pray over them. And they have to be kosher in order to eat them. And they also cannot eat specific animals. Yeah.

You're right. And we'll get into that. that why they can't eat them. But even today's name points in the direction. Leviticus essentially means about the Levites. Now, Levites were the people in Aaron's tribe, which is an extended family descended from one of Jacob's 12 sons. Levi is the son.

Okay? That was Jacob's son Levi. So God appointed the Levites to serve as Israel's worship leaders. Aaron's family provided the priest and all other Levite men worked as associates, It's helping with the sacrifices and maintaining the worship center and so on. So this is basically the people in ancient times called the book the priest manual. This is what Leviticus was, right? And that's what we're reading now.

A kosher menu you might have heard about as well, but you may eat any animal that has completely split hooves and choose the cud. Leviticus 113 says, God gives Moses a list of animals the Israelites are allowed to eat. Cattle, sheep, goats, make the menu. is because those animals either have split or split hooves or they chew the cud, meaning they swallow their food and bring it up later to chew again. Now off the menu in all of this is no split hooves or cud chewing are pigs, rabbits, and camels. Fish on the menu must have scales and fins, no shellfish such as lobster, crab, or oyster.

Birds are sorted by any physical traits, aren't sorted by any physical traits. Instead, God simply gives a list of birds that don't make the menu. These include vultures, bats, ravens, and seagulls. Most insects are off the menu, too, but there are a few kosher bugs, locusts, and grasshoppers. And God doesn't explain why gag-inducing crickets are kosher and delicious lobsters or not. Many Bible experts guessed God wasn't especially concerned about the meat, but that he simply wanted to teach to Israelites how to obey him. So this is a thing that obviously a lot of people hear about.

The Jewish people say, well, I'm not, I can't eat this because of this. And there's always been all these debates. But a lot of scholars believe, actually, the only reason God was given, like, orders on what you can and cannot eat and why you cannot eat these things was simply because God was given rules. He didn't necessarily care as much about what you can and can't eat. But also at the same time, if you do think about some of these animals that you say you can and cannot eat, like lobster, shrimp, all these other things that are bottom feeders. Exactly. about the birds which are bats and vultures they eat they eat dead meat and all those things exactly and then later on when we get into this god is like god is like a um the way he kind of explains

things even to moses and and and others it's like he is a germaphobe um with like the way he sees and reacts to things even women on their period and we'll get in this yeah and after birth and all of these things he gives specific instructions like you are not allowed to do this with this and this and this and this. And so, you know, many scholars believe, well, this is just God's way of saying you have to obey. Right. Although I think there was a bigger purpose behind it.

Yeah, I think it's more of the germ thing because you think about the things that he wants people to avoid eating are like the bottom of the food barrel, you know, the bottom of the seed, the bottom of the food chain, you know, pigs, shrimp. But, I mean, flounder has fins, right? Or does it? Yeah, they do, I think. Because I know because I know flounder is a bottom feeder. I don't know if Jewish people can have flounder or not.

Yeah, I don't know. So God doesn't explain why all these things are the way they are. But later, the arrival of Jesus will mark the beginning of God's new covenant with humans, an agreement less concerned with outward rules and more concerned with what's going on inside a person's heart and mind. The food laws become obsolete. What goes into a person doesn't make him unclean, Jesus explained. it is what comes, and this is a quote,

it is what comes from inside that defines you. Evil thoughts, sexual immortality, theft, murder, and adultery, greed. They are what define you. Mark 7.20 through 23 says. And this is one of the things I find so interesting, right? Right? I mean, you read and listen to Genesis and you read and listen to Exodus.

And you have this God that is like, hey, if you don't do what I'm telling you to do, guess what's about to happen. And we're about to talk some more about what's about to happen when they don't do what God told them to do. And then you have the Savior, according to Christianity and even Muslims, Jesus, and it comes on and says, don't listen to my dad. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Dad is old, dude. He literally created the universe. All you got to do is just be cool inside and we're good, right? But like, how did it just go from, here is my very strict rules or we will kill all of you? Exactly. To now Jesus is like the cool dude, right? Well, because, you know, they say that God sacrificed his own son for us. And that's why, you know, we can now sin and all we have to do is pray about it now, you know, because of Jesus.

Here's the thing. It's just like back in, was it Genesis where God told Abraham, you take your son to the mountain. You're going to sacrifice him. And this was his only son, which was Isaac, right? Wasn't an Isaac that he brought up to sacrifice? Oh, my God. I think so. I'm pretty sure it was.

Isaac, if I'm wrong, sorry, guys. Look it up. It's one of his sons. I think it was his only son, his only true son. Yeah, it must have been Isaac then. And God told him, hey, take your son the mountain. Yeah, the top of the mountain. And you're going to kill him.

And Abraham was going to do it. But God didn't make him do it. Instead, later on, seems like God is the one that made a son be sacrificed, according to Christian anyway, right? But I think he was testing Moses' ability to believe in Jesus and to follow his rules. Yeah, absolutely. So pure enough to worship God. You've got to be pure enough to worship. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. And you got to be pure enough to worship God. If a woman becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son, she will be ceremonially unclean for seven days.

Just as she is unclean during her menstrual period. And this is what it says in Obligicus 12, too. Ritually unclean, the mother of a newborn isn't allowed to take part in any worship ceremonies. She has to be ritually clean to approach the Holy God. Not only is she unclean, but so is anyone who touches her. God identifies several situations beyond childbirth and menstruation that can make a person unclean. Skin diseases, touching a corpse, mildew on clothing or in the house, and even wet dreams. Getting rid of ritual impurity usually involves a waiting period and washing. In that case of skin disease or mildew, a priest has to make an examination to declare the problem.

resolved. Wet dreams are in fear. But I'm just saying I think every dude has a wet dream. We're not getting in that. We definitely cannot get in that. I know,

but I'm just saying every guy does have wet dreams when they go through puberty. You don't think? Oh, well, maybe maybe back then. I think every guy's done that. Yeah. But some do not.

I mean, that's, I don't know. Okay. We're not getting into that. I just want to know. Okay. Well, if you've ever not had a. a wet dream, let me know. Babe, we're not talking about that, though.

We're talking about the Bible. God, nobody. Sorry. You're making this whole episode unclean. Do you think God... Sorry. Anyways, how to live the holy life, which Sherry does not know how to do, obviously. You must be holy because I, the Lord, your God, am holy, right?

Leviticus 192 says, The first half of Leviticus deals with the sacrifices and other religious rituals, but the last half is a guidebook about daily, behavior and holy living. God doesn't expect perfection, but he does expect that the behavior of the Israelites will serve as a testimony to the world that they are devoted to God, set apart, and reserved for his use. The Israelites are holy in much the same way that furnitions in the worship center are holy. A lamp stand can be ritually cleansed and then devoted for use in only the worship tent. It couldn't be used for secular purposes, such as lighting a family supper.

There are certain things that Israelites aren't allowed to do as well. No incest or homosexual acts. no child sacrifices, no work on the Sabbath day of rest, no lying or cheating. There are also certain responsibilities the Israelites have to fulfill. Among them is respect their parents. And then also generously help the poor and strangers in the land. And one duty Jesus made famous, Love Your Neighbor as yourself, Leviticus 1918, by observing the rules for holy living, sorry, the Israelites maintained their sacred relationship with God. and when they sinned rituals of sacrifice provided forgiveness for those who were genuinely

repented um so this is just a it is a you know it's definitely a very strict kind of rule set i mean even god didn't think that that women that were birthing kids were clean or menstruating women were clean um and i think it just goes to like um i kind of go back to this just in my thought process like when you have an oCD person then is, you know, and I'm, I am that way in some ways. But when you have an OCD person that is like germophobic, whatever the case is, you are extra like, no, you're not doing that unless you do this or I cannot deal with that unless this.

I'm that way on some things, right? But God is like that way on everything. He's like, look, you're going to be holy and clean and everything when you approach me or even communicate with me. it to me and listen guys as i told you in the beginning of this uh podcast series i we're gonna say it how we think it right we're not preachers we're not here to try to convince you of anything we're we're literally here just talking about our which by the way sherry is her is already screwed up what did i do nothing i was but i want to say too in other bibles i think the muslim bible

i'm pretty sure and we're going to have to look this up koran yeah the koran that in their belief, women are not clean ever. That's why they have to have, like, stuff over their head. Yeah, it's weird. Because I kind of looked that up a little bit. I didn't really get a direct answer. Like, they can't show their bodies or anything. Well, the funny thing is about the Quran is when you try to get,

and when you actually try to get an answer, because I use AI for a lot of stuff. I try to get quick answers and stuff like that. The AI just does everything they can to try to pretend like everything is koshered and perfect in a particular thing. but if you look up Christianity or you look up the Holy Bible, it talks about how murderous it is and all this stuff. But if you look up the Quran or whatever,

it's a very hard thing for, they want to protect that. But the point that here is, I don't know exactly why they, that the women and all that thing is in the Quran. But I just have to mention it. And it might be other religions as well. But even like when they have sexual intercourse with women,

their bodies can't even touch. Their robes. They have to be dressed and like have a whole. their robe basically for them to even have sex. I don't know. Because women supposedly are uncleaned somewhere. I got to look that up. You guys remind me.

Yeah, I have no idea about that, babe. So seven Jewish holy days, there were this Passover, bread with no yeast, first fruits, Pentecost, trumpets, day of anoint shelters. And this is all in addition to the Sabbath day of rest and worship. For sunsets on Friday to sunset on Saturday, the Israelites observed seven religious holidays. many Jews today still observe these festivals which stretched to march through October and as I just mentioned is Passover

which is one day each spring at a family meal Israelites retold the story of God free in the Israelite slaves in Egypt is what Passover is about bread with no yeast one week beginning a day after Passover they recalled that the Israelites slaves

leave in Egypt in such a hurry that they didn't have time to let the bread dough rise that's bread with no yeast and they also believe in first fruits One day, Israelites, thank God for the first of the springtime barley harvest. And then Pentecost, also known as harvest or weeks, one day held 50 days after the festival of fruits or first fruits to thank God for the continued harvest. And you also have trumpets or Rosh Hashanah in Hebrew. One day each fall, musicians blew trumpets to mark the beginning of the Jewish New Year.

And then Day of Atonement, Yon Kippur, in Hebrew, is one day each fall in nationwide. day of repentance is what that was. And then shelters also called booths or tabernacles. One week Jews camped out in huts and lean-toos. It was to remember that God protected the Israelites during the Exodus. Exactly. And if you guys listened to the other things or the other two discussions, they had to put like blood on their door to protect the firstborn.

Yeah. Well, yeah. And just say that, hey, pass over this house. because, you know. Right. But yeah, so essentially Leviticus is a way for Israelites to live. It is what God tells them how to live,

how to be holy, how to come to him, how to approach him. Now, as I say, listen, we got to look at it in a couple ways just from that. I mean, I do, and I know so many people,

when they hear stories like this, they're like, God, he sounds like, you know, he sounds like he's not very friendly at all. You know, you hear of this thing. It's like, God is this all loving God and he is an all knowing God.

And I see memes all over the internet. God is so loving and he is so merciful. But, you know, but there's also a lot of things I've read that we're going to get to that's just like, doesn't sound that way. And like, and I was talking to Sherry about this. And I know she comes from Jewish family. And we can get into this for a minute. But I was like, you know, if what Jewish believe that this Messiah has not come yet, they don't believe in Jesus is the Messiah. They don't believe in any of that stuff.

Muslims do. Christians do. There's actually quite a bit of religions that believe very similar things. I mean, Muslim and Christianity are so close. It's not even funny. They believe in Moses. They believe in all the same similar things. Well, Jewish people believe in Moses, too.

Moses was Jewish. Yeah. So let's get into this for a minute. And I think, but real quick, you know, you can't let me not say anything. You said that Muslims and Christians believe that Jesus is going to be the end-time Messiah. Messiah. Right? Jews believe the same thing.

They believe there's going to be a Messiah. But they don't believe as Jesus. But they don't believe as Jesus. But what if they don't know? What if they're like, we're still waiting for the Messiah? And it ends up being Jewish. I mean, Jesus. Does that mean they're wrong?

Well, according to Christian and Muslims, it believes, I mean, I guess that would say, I don't know. Because Muslims don't even believe he was sacrificed for them. Christians are the only ones that believe that Jesus was sacrificed for their people. and he died for their sins. Muslims don't believe that. Yeah, because in Christianity, they believe, you know, they say that if you do not believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins, you do not enter heaven.

Right. Right. So would that mean? That's the only way to go to heaven in Christianity. Does I say it right? It's through Jesus. Yeah. So let's get to this point.

Let's go ahead, before we get into numbers, and numbers actually gets very interesting, and we'll talk about this. This is Israel's Senate, which is 40. years. This is because what God told the Israelites to do and they did not do it and you're about to find out what their freaking punishment was on this. But before we get into the numbers, let's get into our discussion about why are Muslims and Jewish people still fighting. Now, I told Sherry last night when we tried to do this episode last night, I said, I'm going to play devil's advocate on the Muslim behalf on this because essentially what it is is that Muslims believe that they are, maybe even the chosen people

or they should be, right? Because Muslims know that Ishmael was their prophet. He was their leader. He was the firstborn. According to the Bible, and it always had been this way, the firstborn was the heir of

the people. Instead, they sent Ishmael away, right? And they sent him off to lead a new another people, another region, which became the Muslims. An entire religion was created around Ishmael and Muslims was created around Ishmael. Now Ishmael was technically the firstborn son of Abraham.

He wasn't the firstborn son of Sarah. Right. But according to God, he said, no, he's illegitimate. He is not the son of Abraham and Sarah, which I told you that you are to have this kid. You were to have this son and not, and then you went off and disobeyed me. Yeah, you disobeyed me and you did it on your own and you impregnated this. woman, like I told you not to do that, I said, wait, and I provide you a child. Well, they went against God's word and they produced Ishmael.

And then Ishmael, you know, ended up being raised by his real mother anyways. Yeah. But when the time came, he went off and Isaac was the one that led the Jews because he was, he was the first real son between Sarah and Abraham. But according to all the tradition otherwise, outside of the fact that it wasn't Sarah's son, it was another woman's son. And by the way, I don't know like what race is, you know. Hagar was. I don't know if, I don't even know how the race stuff worked back then.

Like, what were the Muslims and Jewish people? I think they were pretty much all the same. But I think she was a worker below Sarah. Like she was like a worker. She wasn't like as high up in the hierarchy, I guess. as Sarah. Yeah. But then they ended up, you know, having Ishmael and then Hagar was the worker that

raised her own kid. So, yeah. So it was almost like a slave. It almost sounds like, really. Right. In some way. I mean, I don't know if that's the case. But regardless, you know, you have this Muslim large population of people that if they,

and this is what I want to go back to is that Muslim and Christianity are very close. I mean, they are extremely close. but there's obviously a very big argument of who they believe was the right the rightful person to be in the position of power and they believe that was ishmael they believe he was the firstborn son to abraham regardless of what the Torah says the holy bible and this is where kind of the paths divide and this essentially and this happens throughout the bible but ishmael and isa and they always have issues because it is something that happened because of abraham's decision and Sarah's decision that disobeyed God is what created this divide from the very beginning.

But here's the thing. Like, here is my thing. When you talk about this and God's like, you're not allowed to have a kid with this person or whatever. I only want you a kid with this person. These are two different religions now because of this. There are two different sets of people. It is constantly caused the cause divide. I even asked Sarah or I asked you last night, I was like, we were talking, but I was like,

it just doesn't make sense to me. Like, it seems like everything in the beginning was always about divide. You know, when God tells them, which we're about to get into, you're going to go kill the people in Canaanite, which I do want to bring up briefly that

many of you said, the reason why God said, you have to go in and kill and exterminate everyone in Canaan, which is now Israel, for the Israelites that were coming in the Exodus chapter to it, to their promised land. talking about who Moses led?

Yeah, all the people that Moses was leading, that they basically refused to actually go and do this, it was because there were giants. They were crossed with Nephlam. They were non-humans. They were giants. Wait, who was? In the land of Canaan,

there were many giants that were 13, 15 foot tall. That they were already there. But they were- Israelites are coming back into Israel? Yes. Yeah, there were already people in Canaan. at this time. I know that.

And many of these were giants. They were crossbreeds. That's the Nephlin. With fallen angels. Yes. And so God said you have to go destroy everyone, including the animals in this land. Everything. They are all tainted.

They are, you know, disgusting. Basically is kind of what he was saying. But then you got to think about there were real people there, though. I mean, you know, these are the questions I asked myself as like, okay, people have reached out and said, well, this is because, you know, there were people sleeping with Nephlem or whatever, and then they were making these giants. They were,

they were cross-bred between a spiritual type being and a human. Which, you know, who knows? Maybe that's why we're seeing aliens and UFOs today. And that's the only reason why I kind of believe that Nephlam's story is because... They're a cross between a spiritual and human. Yes. I mean, not that they're giants,

but then when I look at Skinwalker ranch or whatever, kind of that kind of thing, I think about nephalom maybe. Like, I don't know. But these were actual giants. These were things that were massive. I know. I know we read that, but do I believe that? I don't know.

Well, Shera, we found evidence of giants in archaeology. I mean, we have found this. We have literally found evidence of giants on this planet in our lifetime. Well, I have not seen it, so I don't know. Just look it up. I mean, it's been scientific finds of... Giants? Giant, yeah, massive bones that look like giant skulls, stuff like this.

But if that's the case and we had Nephilim that are giants, then why don't people believe in Bigfoot? Because Bigfoot is a giant primate. Well, I believe Bigfoot was, I mean, look, I believe if Bigfoot exists, he is in the spiritual realm. I think there is so much stuff that we're about to break wide open that we don't understand. And that's why the government and a lot of people are pushing so much for this transparency. I want to understand this for nature purposes, for spiritual purposes, for all these things, because I think it may, it may hold a very big key to everything. And if the government and these secret freaking intelligence agencies that want to keep all this stuff secret,

I think that can either prove, to me, I think this proves more so the spiritual realm than it disproves it. And, you know, no one's really ever said this. But I think that beyond the fact that we're trying to reverse engineer for weaponization, of UFOs and craft and all these things. What if we're hiding it more so because we're talking about this last night, actually. We looked up, what does Chinese people believe in religion? Basically nothing, right? Like 75% of them in China believe in no religion or folklore or folk religion, which is.

Yeah, Chinese folklore or Chinese legend folklore, which what that really says is. I believe in what the government. tells me to believe in. Well, yeah, and all of their distinct and distinguished leaders throughout their history. That's their religion. The dynasties. Yeah, it's literally their dictatorship communism is their religion. They want you to believe and worship their leaders.

And that's why they have to have them. I don't know if you guys know that, but they have to have actual pictures of the leaders in their house. I don't know about China, but North Korea you're talking about, but not China. Oh, maybe not China. Yeah, North Korea is who does that. Yeah, North Korea, you have to do. They have to bow down to their leaders. Yeah, or you'll get killed in your house.

In North Korea. And China's, I mean, it's close to that. I don't know if it's that hard. But so, yeah, China doesn't believe in leaders. They believe that their religion is they're distinguished and almighty leaders of the, you know, of their past. And North Korea is very similar. Well, and Egyptians were like that too, like with pharaohs. You know, they thought that pharaohs were like the major people.

Pharaoh was a king. And then there were other kings and there were multiple kings that were, they're, gods. There were sun god too they believed in. But my point to this is, is that it is just very strange. There's what if the government is hiding the UFO, UAP topic from us? Because it proves more so of a spiritual realm than it doesn't. We were talking about, and this is what I believe, I believe right now, 100% our government, there is a Tucker Carlson clip. And I almost want to play this right now. I know this is a Bible episode, but I also want you guys to understand something in this. So you know what? I'm going to do it. I think, I think this is important to play.

And then we're going to get into numbers. But I do think this is important to play because you know, the same way China doesn't have a religion is because they can't have a religion and make people believe that there is something else beyond the government. Right. Because if they did, then people would not be locked up or chained up. up by the government and what they say and what they do because they're going to have a higher belief system that you are not my God, you are a government, you are a person, you are a entity of a, of a organization that is a human just like me and you're trying to tell me that you are better and over and all of this stuff. That's what China has done and accomplished in China.

Absolutely. And only three percent of Chinese people, even are Hindus, are a Buddhist. And I would have not three. It was 3%. It was a small amount, yeah. And I would have thought it would have been way bigger. Just knowing in that part of the world, there's a lot of, you know, that's the oldest religion in history is Buddhism and Hinduism. Yeah, absolutely.

I want to play you something that Tucker Carlson said about the upcoming election, also talking about evil, what's actually going on today. We're not being governed by politics anymore. And there's something very extreme that potentially is on the horizon. I want to put this into this episode because I think. Think it's important, and I want you guys to hear what Tucker has to say. Here you go. You are being lied to.

And if you feel that something very intense and history changing is about to happen, don't ignore it. I mean, just ask yourself, just on the merits of the facts. You've got two people running for president. One of them is literally senile, not attacking the guy, but that's true. Maybe not fully aware that he's president. Opposing him is a man who has been indicted four times and is facing life in prison. And every time he gets indicted and every time they tack years on to the sentence, he becomes more popular and now he's winning.

But it tells you a couple of things. One, the side that's indicting him doesn't want him to be president so badly that they are willing to indict him on one of transparently ridiculous charges. And two, the public is not only not buying it, it is incentivizing them to support him.

Indite him again. Arrest him again. March him out to the gallows. He'll become king. So it's literally counterproductive. So what does that tell you? It tells you that the people currently in charge have no idea how the country works what the country wants and they don't care. So how does that resolve itself? The big lie that we tell ourselves and that I have told many times is that this is political. This is not political. What we're watching is not political.

This is not politics. And everyone deserves to live in a country governed by politics, not force. You say you hate politics. What's the option? Force. You only get two options. And we're past the political stage. Nothing that is happening now can be explained through conventional, political terms, period. What's happening is bad behavior for its own sake. There is no upside to the great trends of our age. There's no upside to pushing transgenderism on kids, period. None. There's no upside. So why are they doing that? Is it really a conspiracy from gender clinics? I mean, maybe to some extent, but it's bigger than that. What you're seeing is evil done for its own sake, hurting people, hurting people. That's exactly what you're seeing. And that is absolutely

true, I believe. I mean, this is being done in the name of evil. We have evil that is taken over this country, this world in so many different ways. We are not governed by politics anymore. We are governed by force. And I want all of you out there to 100% understand that right now. We are not governed by politics. You might look at politics and be like, oh my God, politics are awful. And a lot of it is. But what we actually are in right now is not politics. We are. are in a dictatorship where you're in a tyranny and it's going to get worse and so the reason i bring that clip up is because i understand that if you're all of these intelligence agencies and the government military industrial complex you say i don't want to release the alien stuff or they're never going to know

about this especially we're not going to actually get into what non-human intelligence means which is n h i which is what many of these whistleblowers are saying these things are they're not saying yes they have said there are biologics on this, but there are also a many whistleblowers that are coming out and saying, there are things in these UFOs and these things that we understand that we can't comprehend.

Can you not comprehend them because you've told people forever that what you can't see, you shouldn't believe in, you shouldn't have faith in? Is that why you don't want to release this? Because, you know, forever they've said, oh my God, you're crazy.

You're believing in something you can't see and you have faith in this. You can't even see it. And you're telling me, that you're believing in this? What a joke you are. And now all of a sudden, oh, by the way, guys, we might have some things going on in our world

that we've had forever. And these beings may be transdimensional or even spiritual dimensional is what some people already saying, which is ridiculous, right? And in the Bible, which we'll get into eventually, especially in the end times chapters, it talks about, hey, when the time is near, guys,

guess what you're going to see? You're going to have all these prophecies that come true. and not only that, you're going to have signs from the heavens. I've talked about this in many episodes, but in many episodes that I've said this, God always classifies two things and is one heaven and it is two heavens. Now, we also talked to Rashid, I think it was,

back in our Israel-Hamas war episode, where I think there were multiple heavens that God kind of talks about and speculates on, or not speculates, but God talks about and people have speculated on. but also I believe that God, when he says that there's going to be signs from the heavens, which are outerworldly, it is the things that we are talking about right now, UFO, non-human intelligence,

all of these things that we can't understand or explain that the government does not want to tell you is happening because you can say that they don't want to tell you because of secret programs and blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah, but what if they just didn't simply want to tell you because they knew the power that you, that you would as a people be able to harness if you knew that you had the spiritual power to connect with these things because there's already been these things happening.

Dr. Stephen Greer has these freaking events to where they're going out to places in the middle of desert and literally doing some type of almost like meditation prayer things and getting these things to show up. And I believe that wholeheartedly. There's been there has been scientists that have went out there with them. And I cannot remember what they call this. spiritual like endeavor where they're having these things show up. Yeah. In a spiritual realm.

Yeah. And that's what we have to understand. But in our own like world realm too, which is crazy. The thing that what really scares me about this whole thing that you're talking about right now is, you know, if you believe in the New Testament of the end times, they say that, you know, there's not going to be, there's going to be a fake Messiah come first. Well, and the Christ and Christ. Yeah. And the Quran believes the same thing. And guess who comes and destroys it?

It is Jesus. It is a savior according to the Quran. And it is the Savior according to the Holy Bible. The Jewish people don't, they see, this is where I don't understand the Jewish religion because they're still waiting. Well, the Jewish religion stops. They stop after so many chapters. They're like, okay, well, that's it. Don't want to hear anything else.

But you have to, you have. No, they're still waiting for the Messiah. Because they missed the Messiah. A lot of people believe they missed it. A lot of people do, but a lot of people don't. It depends on your religion. But a lot of, like, Jewish people are still waiting on the Messiah. So we...

I get that. When the Messiah comes, are we going to know if he's real? You will absolutely know. Or if he's fake or will everyone know? Or is it going to deceive you that much that you don't know? I believe that I used to watch I used to be forced to watch actually in some ways because my mom used to make me watch all these scholars

and these end times, you know, experts. You know, they studied this a million times over. Mom used to watch this. And one thing I remember, they said that, you know, someone that is going to come as the Interchrist will be like, I think something along the lines of they will be shot multiple times and they will make a miraculous recovery.

They will be like kill or, or stabbed or whatever it is, like multiple times. That they wouldn't build to survive that. No, yeah. Normally they would not be able to survive it, but they do. And then they come out and proclaim, I am Jesus Christ. They literally say that I'm the Savior. And so this is something that.

But did they say Jesus Christ or the Savior? I don't know. Because that's two different things. I know, but we haven't got to that part of the Bible yet. But all I'm saying is is that, yes, they proclaim that it is Jesus Christ or, you know, I'm the Savior. I'm Christ. So essentially, yes, they're saying I'm Jesus Christ because that is who Christ is, Jesus Christ.

And then they basically take over the world. And they do this with the help of a one world government, which is what we are setting up to have right now. I mean, the world economic form, everything we are seeing and why the entire world is a complete. God, do you want me to spell shit or do you only just say it? I don't know, because we are doing a Bible. But yeah, the reason the world is a complete shit show is because the Bible explains this very well. In the end times, there's going to be wars.

There's going to be rumors of wars. There's going to be plagues. There's going to be epidemics. There's going to be people getting sick around the world. This is going to happen and is going to happen in such a scale. You cannot ignore it. There are going to be people that are trying to proclaim that they are more powerful and more holy than God, not just Antichrist, but even governments, including our own, which is

happening right now. and not just our own government, but around the world this is happening. And listen, my mom used to tell me all the time, she's like, Chad, times are pretty, times are kind of crazy right now. You know, and I would look at that, even at 12 years, I was like, times are not that crazy, really. I mean, you know, there's not a lot of craziness going on. I mean, yeah, we got a war going on maybe. But like, people around the world were not like we are now. I mean, I'm talking about we have massive division.

we have things that are just coming off the shelves of civality, like just being civil. And I think that, you know, although you don't know according to the Bible, and we're going to get into all this, but although you don't know the day, the time, the hour of when they say that Christ is going to return, you know when the time is near. And he makes it very clear, right? And yeah, and a lot of people say the time is near and a lot of people are like, oh, no, the time has been near for like the last 100 years. We don't know. Well, but it's just, to me, anyway, based on everything I've always learned and heard and I mean, look, like I said, I'm not a preacher. I'm just saying like if a time is going to be near is now. But I have to mention too, when the time comes, I feel like all three of the religions are waiting for the same thing.

They're waiting for a Messiah. Yes, Muslim, Islam, whatever. In Christianity, they're waiting for Jesus. They already named the Savior. The only difference is Jews have not named their Savior. They don't know who the Savior is yet. But that's what's so weird to me. And by the way, that is very weird to me.

And it's not a debate. But what I can say is, by the way, there are a lot of new reform Jews today. A lot. Ones that believe in Jesus now. There are a lot of them that have went over to the belief of Jesus over the Orthodox Judaism. And to me, the more I research this, which I could be wrong, but the more I research this, the more I think about this and all this stuff, to me, I'd be like, why would you not do that? Because otherwise, to me, just based on everything I understand right now, it just seems like a dismal belief in the Jewish system.

but I could be wrong and don't understand things. And maybe that's when we bring Bob back on to hopefully explain my point of view on that. Because I'm not a Jewish scholar. I'm not a freaking Christian scholar either, obviously. But I'm just telling you my thoughts on that. So let's get in the numbers because we're in an hour right now. I think we can at least get through another chapter. I think this one's pretty short.

Is there anything else we need to mention? Oh, by the way, our friend Bree. I'd have to mention this before we get in numbers. Our friend, Bree, you probably listened to her and heard her on other episodes before. We used to bring her on for Christian slash biblical slash whatever in times episodes in particular.

Bree is very knowledgeable. She's a great close friend to us. She's been on the podcast three or four times. We're going to have her back on soon. We're actually going to go on her podcast very soon as well. And I want you guys to go follow it. And you can find, not only you can find our Facebook links in the description of Spotify,

especially, but all of them in our X links. I'm going to post her link on Spotify in the description, and it is called End Times Now with Bree. End times now with Bree. And Bree is going to take you through a lot of journeys. She's very good at speaking. And for those of you do not remember her, I promise you. You need to go follow her.

You need to go check her out. She knows the Bible back in front. And we're definitely going to bring Bree on. as well to like kind of break down some of the stuff that we're talking about that we don't necessarily understand or whatever she's already got two really good topics that I think you should go and she's recorded a couple more so she's going to have like four episodes soon so I encourage all of you guys to go check out in times now with Bree and I will put that link in the description please go do that she's our friend many of you actually have asked like when's Bree going to come back on her

when she's going to have her own podcast so right um go check her up all right so numbers Israel's sentence 40 years. 40 years. It's a long sentence. This should be the story of the Israelites marching back into their homeland. But it's the story of them marching to the border and then waiting for an entire generation of Israelites to die off. That's what this story is about. They marched all the way the border.

And then they had to wait 40 years for their people to die. I don't want to say the word because it's a biblical podcast. but what God was probably thinking is we got to get rid of the evil or whatever. No, no, no. We got to get rid of the, almost like the civilization like we have today in some ways. We got to wipe it out and start over.

Like for example, yeah, like for example, you know, would you want our civilization or our like young people today to go to war for the United States? Are you kidding me? Like 18 to 20 year olds, 21? That's exactly what God's thinking right now. Like he must have had similar generation,

right i mean i'm just trying to kind of relate right so they're waiting outside of israel for everyone to die off yeah basically so they've been camped at the foot of mount sinai for nearly a year and finally moses tells them to break the camp they trudged north tor canaan which is aka now israel modern day israel um and they're complaining as they go not enough water not enough meat and manna after all these months have become mundane and months later later as the crowd of refugees approaches Canaan's southern border, Moses sends scouts to explore the land. Now, they come back with a report that terrorizes the Israelites.

And give me to mind, I want to point this house, Moses sends scouts to explore the land of Canaan. This is Israel. So Moses sends these people in and says, you need to go check out and see what's going on here. Okay, I want to make that very clear. So they come back with a report that is just, scary or whatever to the Israelites.

There are walls, armies, and giants that are defending these cities in Canaan. And with that, the exodus stops. The Israelites refuse to go any further. They're like, oh, no. Now, we went in there. There are massive giants. There's all kinds of craziness in this land. And you're sending us here to try to take this.

This is our promised land? Yeah, this is like David and Goliath. How are we going to fight these giants? Giants. Yeah, exactly. Like, there's no way we're doing that. And so, so for Felon to Trust God, in spite of all the miracles that they have been seen, or they have seen him do for them. Right. Like splitting the scene. Oh, all kinds of it. All kinds of it, providing them food, all of this stuff. The Israelites are sentenced to 40 years in the badlands, which is basically right outside of Canaan. Like desert. Yeah, that's long enough for most of the cowardly generation to die. He told them,

you are cowards. You will not go in and fight these people and kill them. You are freaking cowards. And I want you to die outside this land. This would have been your promised land had you would have went in and taken the land like I told you do. But instead, you want to be little, well, I'm not even going to say all that. You're going to imagine what I'm saying. And so he said, you can just stay out there and die for four years.

And I'll just wait on new generation. And you're going to be punished. Yeah. Because you're not doing again when I told you to do, which is really hard for. humans. I mean, when it comes to sacrificing other human lives or killing other people because God tells you to do, that's freaking pretty hard to do. Yeah, but that's also what's crazy to us in this generation. Could you imagine like God saying, Sherry, you got to go. I think you need to go kill all these people. You got to go sacrifice Chad tonight. You got to take them in the backyard

and put them on the, you know, the bed and you got to sacrifice him. Okay. And I'm supposed to listen to that and do that. Well, I mean, it is kind of like a crazy thing. Well, if you ever try that, just so you know, God is going to be my new best friend, because I will, I will reverse sacrifice you. I will reverse sacrifice. Babe, if God tells me to do it, I got to do it, right? Okay, okay.

Well, you just remember that because I'm like John Wick. You think that you're going to sacrifice me, but you're going to get sacrificed. I'm just letting you know. Anyway, so, so the Israelites, the homeland, will wait for a new and improved generation, braver and more obedient. Senates served, a new generation breaks camp, led by a 120-year-old Moses. He takes them east into what is now Jordan, near the banks of the Jordan River, and the Israelites are finally ready and willing to reclaim the land that God had promised them.

So where Numbers gets his name, by the way, the book of Numbers, is the book starts with the census, and it ends with another census 40 years later. and you probably have heard of censuses, where they're trying to figure out how many people there are. Right, right. And they still do that today. Yeah, as the Israelites left Mount Sinai to continue their long trip home, Moses wanted to know how many men were available to fight the battles they would face.

He repeated the census after the Israelites had served their 40-year sentence in the Badlands. And that's where Numbers gets their name, just so you know. So in the second year after Israel's departure from Egypt, on the 20th day of the second month, the cloud lifted from the cloud lifted from the tabernacker of the covenant. And so the Israelites set out from the wilderness of Sinai and traveled on from place to place. That's numbers 10, 11 through 12. So anyway, so after camping at the foot of Mount Sinai for about a year, it's time for the Israelites to move on.

They've organized themselves into a nation of 12 extended families called tribes. God has given them the 10 commandments and hundreds of other laws to guide them in religious and civil matters. And they now have an elaborate worship system, complete with a tent and a tribe. Travel and Worship Center, the Tabernacle. Now, the mysterious pillar that guided them to Mount Sinai and that parked above the worship tent is now on the move again. Where it leads, the Israelites will follow. And so kind of just to talk about this, God is punishing sin.

And in fact, he dramatically illustrates that when he sentences the Israelites to 40 years in the badlands, punishment for felon to trust and obey him is very harsh. And so we still believe, by the way, that the writer of this points to Moses. And many Bible experts today as ancient Jewish leaders compiled Genesis through Deuteronomy from a variety of sources, Moses may have provided material for at least some of those sources, but it would have been out of character for him to write that he was more humble than any other person on Earth, which was numbers 12-3, if he was writing it himself. So a lot of people contribute the writing of numbers to include Moses, but, you know, why would he say that he was in a third person? Yeah. doesn't make sense.

So someone was writing this. Right. And this was obviously about 1,400 BC, 200 years later. And this was still in the Sinai Peninsula. And it ends in the country called Moab in what is now Jordan. So I just want you guys to understand that. And Jordan is north of Israel. Yeah.

Today. Yeah, you're right. So Numbers 14, 29, 3 30 says, you will drop dead in the wilderness, God said. Because you complained against me. Every one of you is 20 years older, older, and was included in the registration will die. You will not enter and occupy the land, I swear to give you. That's what he said. You will all die.

Screw all of you. I'm done. I'm done with you. So the Sinai Peninsula is not a hikers paradise. It's blistering. It's brown, and it is sand-littered wedge of rocks looking like a desert. It seems more like Mars or the Dakota badlands. So it should come as no surprise that the Israelite refugees start complaining of Moses.

and never really stop complaining to Moses. And so Moses tapped a desert rocks with his walking staff and water gushed out. This was Numbers 2011. And Savvy DeVert Travelers can do the same if they know what to look for. Now there's a verse in the Bible in numbers that talks about how God provided Moses and the people water and rocks, right? It was gushing out in these rocks. This is how they partially partially. survive but there's a lot of people today that even says yes this can happen and many of the desert

rocks are a type of soft sandstone and rainwater filters through them and into pockets inside sometimes there's enough for a gulp or two but moses case the entire community and their livestock drink their fill is what it said so although many scientists say that yes this can happen with certain rocks in the desert where it is a porous type rock um and can and can get into pockets, the fact of this could possibly, you know, I guess nourish or hydrate all of these people would seem impossible. Right. And it goes with like the fish thing, the fish story.

Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Enough fish for, you know, yeah. Right. But the reality of this is, it's like, you know, scientists, yes, they always want to try to prove how this would happen. They're not trying to prove why this story is fake.

And this is something I want to make very clear. scientists don't try to prove why it's fake. They more so have always tried to prove how it could happen and why it's not a miracle. Right. Right. So it's like debunkers. They want to debunk why it was not a miracle and it could naturally happen in nature. Although if you look at the amount of people that this water had to hydrate and survive,

that would be a miracle. It doesn't make sense. Yeah. It would have to be a miracle. Absolutely. So I wanted to point that out as well. So yeah. So the distance from Mount Sussbaum.

Sinai to the Kadesh-Berea Oasis near Canaan's southern border is roughly 200 miles. And it takes to Israelites perhaps a couple of months to get there, leaving Sinai in the spring and arriving in Canaan's border well into the summer. Moses sends a dozen scouts into Canaan. One man from each tribe, they spend 40 days exploring the land. Then they returned with a tasters choice of crops harvested at the end of the summer, pomegranates, figs, and grapes. And it quotes, It is indeed a bountiful country, a land flowing with milk and honey.

The Scouts report numbers 1327. So keeping in mind, this new generation is the generation after the cowards that God said, you will be cast out into the bad lands for 40 years. I'm going to wait on a new generation. So they have plenty of people. They're getting good stuff. Well, this is the new generation. They're getting grapes.

According to God right now, no, but he's sending scouts. Sherry, these people are still outside of Canaan. All of the Israelites are still outside the land. They're sending scouts from the 12 tribes. Oh, to find out what's there? Yeah, so they're not in this country yet. Okay, but they're seeing that they have stuff. It's bountiful.

It's all this stuff. But God's still right now at this point thinks, okay, well, these people are maybe brave. We'll see. We'll see what happens. This is my new generation of Israelites, and they better be braver than what the generation 40 years before this was. Now, I want to stop you there when you talk about the generations of Israelites. do you think okay because a lot of the Bible says the original Israelites right and we've had discussions and debates over this we're not there yet what you're about to ask we're about to we're

going to get there all right I already know what you're going to ask I will not say it then yeah I already know what you're going to ask but we're going to get there um so as I said Moses sends 120 year old Moses by the way at this point um he sends scouts and they come back and say this is bountyful land but there is bad news too the people live in there are powerful and their towns are large and fortified. We even saw giants there. So this new generation 40 years later after, you know, the, the earlier generation said, ain't no way in hell I'm going into Canaan because there are giants.

There are a bunch of crazy people there. I'm not going there. So this, these new scouts come back and say, look, there's bad news as well. I mean, we still have giants or we definitely have giants there. And next to them, we felt like grasshoppers. Numbers 1328 said only two scouts. recommended going far or farther. It was Joshua and Caleb.

Now, the Israelites crying a plane all night, and then they plot to choose another leader and go back to Egypt. And so only the intercession of Moses keeps God from killing them all. But a disease kills 10 rebellious scouts, and God sentences everyone else to 40 years in a battling wilderness, a year for each day of the scouts explored Canaan. habitually rebellious and Israelites have second thoughts about their aborted invasion and against God's order, they attacked the Canaanites. So God once again was like, I'm done with these people too. How many generations are we going to have to have that are not cowards? And I would say another word, but that's not P word.

Yeah. Yeah. So God's like, oh my God, we still have the same people that are doing the same thing. That won't do what I want to do. I want you to do. But if I think about being those people at that time, it'd be hard to do that. So yeah. So these Israelites, they're rebellious, obviously.

I mean, this is what they, this is human nature, really. I mean, human nature is rebellious. And I think this is a very early, this is a very early, I guess, specification of how rebellious humans are, especially when you're trying to get them to get a war or do something they don't want to do. Exactly. And when it means like hurting another human or whatever or losing their own life, right? And so the bravery and the courage and whatever.

But this also was always the test in a lot of ways of do you trust me as God or do you not? Right. And if I'm telling you that you go into this battle and trust me, then I will protect you. even though not necessarily because you might also get shot in the face or get killed by a giant. I mean, you know, there's all these things, right? We see this in everyday worldly things. We see this in military where they want you to believe if you join the U.S. military, you join this military, you join this military, you're courageous, you're fighting for your country,

you have righteousness, you are great. And then you go off, you're 19 years old and get shot in the face and you die. Never to have another life ever again on this planet. And these are we know of. Yeah, that we know it. But these are the things that trouble me, even with this story. You know, I know God saying, hey, guys, you have struggled. Listen.

Yeah, but I'm going to give you another 40 years in jail. No, but listen, you have struggled. Yes, I have provided you things. But imagine how hard it was for this journey for these people. I mean, yes, God provided all these things. But imagine in comparison to how we live today, what their life actually, was trying to leave Egypt to walk to Canaan, right? That took years.

I think it was like a year or two, whatever. And then guys like, oh, you didn't do what I wanted you do, 40 years outside in the worst part of the planet. I mean, I know this sounds crazy, but this sounds crazy to me. And so I'm just giving you guys my opinion. God, you better help me here because I'm having a hard time understanding this. So anyways, so the new scouts come back and said there's bad news to. Now, habitually rebellious, the Israelites have second thoughts about their aborted invasion.

And God's already saying, we're sentenced to them in 40 years again. And against God order, they attack the Canaanites, who meet and greet them with swords and send them scurrying back to Moses. The Israelites spend most of the next 40 years planted right where they are in an oasis that seems to contain the largest source of freshwater in the region. The greenery of Kadesh Barnea is fed by a spring that pumps a quarter of million gallons of water a day. So insurrection, you know, aka January 6th. But it sounds like God was at least letting them, like, be in a place that had, you know, water and vegetation. Yeah. So one day, Cora incited a rebellion against Moses, along with 250 other leaders of the community, all prominent members of the assembly.

This is Numbers, 16, 1 through 2. So even after God levies a 40-year sentence on them, the Israelites keep doing what they seem to do best, which is great. bicker and stir up trouble. One man named Cora insists that God has chosen the Israelites as his special people. He says Moses has gone too far in acting like God's favorite son. Now there were rebels in the family, right? So even Moses, own brother and sister, Aaron and Miriam, turned against him. And Moses married a Kushite.

She was from a race of people descended from Noah's grandson, Kush, and living in what is now southern Egypt, Sudan. in Ethiopia, this may refer to Zippera, or to a second wife the Bible doesn't name. Moses was the prophet in charge. And it quotes, has the Lord spoken only through Moses? Question. They complain. Hasn't he spoken through us to? Numbers 122 says.

God answers for Moses, saying he speaks to Aaron, Miriam, and other prophets only in dreams and visions, but not with my servant, Moses. Of all my house, he is the one I trust. I speak to him face to face. 12 7 through 8. God turned Miriam's skin, white with disease, forcing her to live outside the camp for a week. Moses pleaded for mercy, which God granted.

Gosh, money. I'm sorry. This is like very harsh. Moses's sister didn't believe that he talked to God. That Moses didn't talk to God. And because she didn't believe that God, like, let her know, yeah. Yeah. He does.

So you're going to be sentenced to like whatever. it was a week out of whatever. Yeah. No, you're right. It's crazy. So even after God, love is a 40 years since, as we said, one name, Corr insists that God has chosen to Israelites as a special people. He says, Moses has gone too far and acting like God's favorite son.

And so it quotes, what's right? What right do you have to act as though you are greater than the rest of the Lord's people? Cora asked number 16.3. What's more? Some of Cora's supporters add. You haven't brought us into another land flow with milk and honey. You haven't even given us a new homeland with fields and vineyards, number 1614 said. Furious, Moses tells the rebel group to come back the next day and present themselves to God.

The Lord will decide who should lead the people. So God's decision becomes obvious when the ground cracks open in the earthquake prone region today called the Great Rift Valley. And the earth swallows the entire rebel group and then it rocks, jaws, slam shut. All that would be all the would be leaders. and their entire families disappear in a giant in a giant earthquake. So I think that should answer the question, even though science will say, well, there is a earthquake valley there that has a fault line, which is crazy, right?

I mean, you got to play both sides of this, right? Yeah, that's what they're going to say. Yeah, I don't even got to read it. And I also like, well, there is a quake line there. It's just hard for me to believe, though, that that happened. that what happened that it actually happened when that it really it swallowed all those people I know it sounds crazy it's crazy it does sound crazy it does I mean so does UFOs and

interdimensional beings and that's true that we can't even imagine but we're starting to find out so yeah so bound for the promised land then the people of Israel traveled to the plains of Moab and camped east of the Jordan River across Jericho a new generation of Israelites head toward Canaan Miriam's older sister of Moses, or she is the older sister of Moses, is dead. She died at the oasis. Aaron, the older brother is dead as well. He died shortly after the group started to travel.

Now, Moses won't make it to Canaan either. He and Aaron committed some unidentified sin when they called water out of rock. Maybe they took credit for the miracle, or maybe they behaved improperly, but perhaps by hitting the rock instead of simply speaking to it as God had instructed. For whatever reason, God, tells them both because you did not trust me enough to demonstrate my holiness to the people of Israel you will not lead them into the land i am given them so moses is done now moses is about to be done um the shortest route into canaan is north but moses isn't famous for taking short routes

perhaps god points the israelites east so they won't worry about the earlier defeat they faced in south canaan moses hopes to travel into what is now jordan turn north and then tell the israelites to cross into jordan river into canaan But the people of Edom refused to grant them safe passage, and God warns the Israelites not to fight Edom because the two nations are related. The Israelites descended from Jacob and the Edomites came from Jacob's brother, Esau. So Moses turns to refugees south on a long bypass around Edom. Then he takes them north to Moab, another ancient country in what is now Jordan. Along the way, several armies attacked by Israelite warriors led by Joshua proved unstop.

And I want to point this out too. Before the Israelites arrived in Canaan, Moses set up a system for dividing the langamon 12 tribes. He wanted to travel boundaries to last. So he told fathers to pass their land inheritance to their sons. That way the land stayed in the family. If a father would give the land to a daughter and she married into another tribe, the land would become her husband's property and the property of his tribe. The Bible says God didn't want that. What about us, quote? That's the question Moses got from five daughters of Zellophilad, whatever that says. A man who had died without his son. In this man's world of Old Testament times, it wasn't customary for Middle Eastern women to inherit property. But Moses took the problem to God. God replied, if a man dies and has no son, then give his inheritance to his daughters. Number 20 or numbers 27, 8.

there were just one condition. Let them marry anyone they like as long it is within their own ancestral tribe. So. Their own race, pretty much. Ancestrial tribe, though.

Ancestry. I don't know. Or their family? Is that what I was that I was it? I don't know. Well, incestrial. Maybe it's not like, yeah, maybe it's not what we talked about

in the first couple episodes. which is like, you know, incest? No, just ancestors. Like, if you are a Christian, marry a Christian. So you could hook up with your grandmother or... What? That is ancestry, right? There is no shit going to hook up with her grandma.

Well, I don't know. Or not grandma. But, I mean, who knows? Because this was when, you know, LGBTQ really kind of started. Oh, my God. Well, it was. I mean, there were gay people back then, which we're going to get into. But what he's saying is families that had, you know, the father and they had only girls,

it still went to the girls and then girls had their choice of men. Yeah. Pretty much. Listen. Oh, my gosh. But it had to be in their ancestral rights or whatever. Yeah. That means.

But like I, and listen, I know. Did we only get through two? We got through two. Leviticus and numbers, and we're at an hour in 27. So we might be wrap this up. Deuteronomy is next. Yeah, and this are some of the last words of Moses. This is kind of, we're going to eventually,

next episode, I think we're going to get into, like, the laws of Moses and Iraq, you know, kind of some of this stuff as far as God orders a Holocaust. I mean, Deuteronomy. It says, in those towns that the Lord, your God has given you as a special possession, destroy every living thing. This is when we're getting into the nitty-gritty of this stuff. This is when literally God orders a Holocaust. He says, we want to kill everyone there.

And so, and so guys, and this is just from the Old Testament of the Bible. I mean, I'm not making this up. This is not a joke. This is what God orders. A Holocaust, right? I mean, you know, you've heard obviously of the Holocaust of Jews. and when, you know, Hitler decided that we don't want anything to do with Jewish people anymore, and we want to kill them.

Oh, we want to purify our land and our nation, our world of Jewish people. That was a Holocaust. That was a genocide. There's been many genocides, actually, in history, and God also ordered that in the next chapter. So, and we're going to get into that. And see, this is, and this is why. I want to break this stuff down. I am so confused, guys.

I'm going to be 100% honest with you. 100%. Because, because listen, I understand that everyone's like, Jesus, Jesus saves. What would Jesus do? I mean,

there's probably a reason that we don't have bracelets to say, what would God do? Because, like, if you, like, what have you had at WWGD?

And then every time, every time you get mad at someone, like an Ingles or a grocery store. Just say a grocery store Just say a grocery store And you look down at your bracelet You see WWGD And then you take your gun out

And just shoot him Murder him Shoot everyone there You're like no I don't like any of these people 40 years Of death But this is but this is what I'm saying This is the stuff I struggle with

And there's a reason I'm doing this breakdown And listen And I also don't want to discourage anybody that like, and I hope that we get in some chapters that explain a lot of stuff because, because listen, and it's not funny, but it is. I know, I get it. But, you know, everyone says, you know,

God is a loving God and God is this. But when you really go in and read right now, God is a loving God based on what he wants people to do. Yeah. But if they don't do what he says, then he's a pissed off God. And he's very ruthless. Yeah. I mean, he will

He will destroy stuff. And look, you know, and the thing is, too, it's like, I know so many of us have questions. I remember, you'll me tell you, I'm going to tell you guys before we go, and listen, this is a journey for me. And it is for Sherry as well. And so we're not trying to at all be, what was the Bible called blasphemy oring that.

No, I think, I mean, I hope God is putting this on this journey. I don't know. I mean, who knows who's putting us on a journey, but, you know, maybe. be God's trying to explain that like, hey, we need to be ruthless. I don't know. Well, we got to be real and talk about what's in the Bible and what God says in the Bible. Yeah, we're literally just reading the Bible, okay?

Yeah. And if we're just reading it and not being like, you know, faith, you know, believing in what we don't know, but reading the Bible, this is what we see. Yeah. But for me, it's always been. I don't know. I mean, this whole thing is confusing to me. It is. And I don't understand a lot of this stuff. And I don't understand why people get cancer and suffer for sometimes six months or a year or five years. Or even children get cancer or.

And then you have the biggest assholes. People get raped. You have the biggest assholes on a planet that live until they're 100. Yeah. I mean, like literally, I have seen people and I know people. I'm looking at you specifically because I just, there was someone that brings up in my mind. Oh, you. I'm not going to say.

I look like that person? No, no, no, no. I look 100? No, no, we're not going to go there. But anyways, but then I think about people. Who's the person? No, we're definitely not saying this on the podcast. But anyways, you got to give me a hint.

No, we're not doing it. Yeah, give me a hint. No. But anyways, Sherry. Chad, who is this? We're definitely not saying it on here. But anyways, but it's not just you. It's me.

I have people like that, you know, like people that you would maybe consider like the biggest assholes, the evil people, or just people are just assholes. And maybe they don't even believe in God or whatever the case is. And yet they live to be 100 or they can, you know, hell, they'll survive a plane crash. And they're just like, oh, shit, I survived a plane crash. I don't know. Everybody else died.

But then you have people that are devout Christians. This is what I was going to say. I never remember or I'll never forget. Sorry, I'll never remember. I'll never forget. I'll never forget sitting one of my very close friends. And it became one of Sherry's close friends. my friend Travis.

Yeah. Yeah. He called me one night. And I want to make this point as well. Travis was a musician. I used to do music as well. Obviously, Sharon and I did music. We actually recorded some of his singles in this studio.

And I still, I am going, actually, yes. Next episode, we are playing Travis's music. Because when I play Travis's music now, it makes me pretty much cry. I don't cry about anything. But when I hear his music today, it still makes me like breakdown because he was an amazing artist. It really was. And he used to be the craziest, biggest, or biggest partier on the face of planet. Like, if you wanted to go to a crazy party, go to Travis's party.

He was a musician through and through. He was like a rock star. He was one of these dudes. Love Travis to death. And he was also a great friend. And then one day, I was sick as hell. I will never forget this. I was so sick.

I had like pneumonia or something. Chad was in the bathtub. Yeah. I was in the bathtub because I couldn't breathe. I was in hot water just to be able to try to breathe. That was so sick. Travis called me one night and he said, and this was after he had been in our studio, we recorded his music and all this stuff.

And he said, hey man, I just want to talk to you for a minute. He said, you got a second? I was like, yeah. He's like, yeah, man, I just want to let you know that from now on my music is going to be Christian and I'm turning my life around. And he said, I decided this about three weeks ago or two weeks. weeks ago, whenever it was, because it was like right after he came to our house for whatever reason.

And he said, I decided this. And he said, I've already lost friends over this. My friends won't even talk to me since I've said this. I've turned to God. I've turned to Jesus. Whatever. He became Christian. And I was like, Travis, that's awesome, dude.

I'm so, I'm happy for you, right? I mean, but I also understood his struggle what he was saying. He lost a lot of friends. They turned against him, which one of those people was my nephew. He's an asshole. And I'll just make that very clear. but anyways, because he was. He was one of those people that was an asshole to him before he died.

And I was one of them, I hope he listens to this. And so long story short is about a week later, he died in a motorcycle accident. And he was in a coma for a while. And I remember going to his funeral. I was sitting there and, you know, the preacher was like, oh, Travis was coming up here and was singing. And he was doing, you know, he was so happy and so excited to get, you know, to know, to know, to know, God and do all this stuff. And I was just, you know, instead of, I guess there's probably a lot of people that would

have been like, yes, Travis was finally ready to transcend to heaven. And this is where he's at now. I didn't see it that way. I saw it as pissed off. I was like, you're telling me that he finally turns his life around and he can't even enjoy the rest of his life. He dies. Yeah, he dies next week.

And you're supposedly in control of everything. And you, even though, you know, I know there's a lot of answers. But these are things that if. affect me over my life. These are, these are things I struggle with. I struggle with seeing my grandfather die. I've struggled with seeing so many people die.

I struggle seeing other people struggle. I struggle seeing homeless people. They're on the side of the road. Yeah, me too. They have signs that are freaking hopeless. They are, and even if you yourself have money to go give them a house or whatever the cases,

and I've seen this many times as well, you can go give them a house. And then, you know, a week later, they're not even in the house anymore. They're out doing drugs and doing whatever. there, I mean, because there is a large mental health problem in this country, which also is a derivative factor. I just, all I'm saying is that right now, right now. What you're saying, basically all of this, though, goes back to the beginning of the Bible, Genesis.

It sounds very similar. Yeah, and when we did not do what God wanted us to do, meaning Adam and Eve. That's just crazy to me, though. Yeah, I know. It sounds so crazy. but think about how our world would be so different if we obeyed God during these whole times. I think it would be so much different. But I don't know.

But God made people to have free will. Yeah. You know, that's what he wanted. But even, okay, but even that concept, you create people to have free will. And they consistently are sinners. Yeah. And they screw you over. Like every single human.

Because we're all sinners. But why could not have God created just a perfect generation? I mean, like, what I'm saying is God created people and said, you're going to have free will, which basically says you're going to sin. Yeah, you're going to fuck up. So why are you going to be so mad? You're going to be like screwing up all the time. Yeah, why are you so mad then? Because you already know that's what's going to happen.

You could have just easily created a perfect people. Yeah, but maybe God thought that humans would be perfect if he gave them the option. Oh, my God. I mean, there's, I mean, well, oh, my God is true. But he should have known that from Adam and Eve. Yeah, but Adam and Eve, there was one damn tree that they weren't supposed to eat at us. Yeah, and guess who was the one that screwed up first, ladies? Oh, shut up.

It was a serpent. No, actually, no. But listen, this might go back to why girls date assholes because the woman listened to the Satan. She listened to Satan instead of Adam, right? And guess what? Guess where we're all at now. See, this is crazy. I'm just kidding.

And I don't even like fruit that much. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, ladies. Yeah. Anyways, guys, I don't know. We're just going through this. I mean, you're learning about the Bible.

I don't know if it isn't a way that you want to learn about or not. But we are literally telling you our thoughts. And if anyone ever comes at us about this podcast episode and says, how dare you talk about this? Then you should not be ever talking to any. about the Bible. I mean, because I, this is my honest opinion and thoughts and feelings.

No one in my opinion, 100% knows the 100% fact. No. Nobody. No. And you can, you can have people out there that, that say that they know because of their faith.

Right. Their faith. Because they have to infer, because there's so much that goes into the Bible and the Bible stories. But they also require you to, I guess, infer or have faith based on these stories. And some of these stories are so outlandish. It's hard to believe them. But listen.

But listen, to that point of the Bible, let me explain something before I discourage people on this. I want to give you my thoughts that I will think about when I go to bed tonight. And I want you guys to think about this as well. And this is why we're doing this, by the way. we're not doing this to to trash the Bible or to discredit the Bible. I want to give you my thoughts of what I'm going to think about tonight. And yes, it does go back to UFOs and UAPs and interdimensionality.

Because I truly think that if you can believe and know and we're starting to see evidence of interdimensionality, UFOs, outerworldly beings, you can't say that the things that happened in the Bible were outlandish. were crazy they were there's no way this happened we know that there were things that were showing up throughout human history that were coming from the sky from the heavens i guess what some people would say um and there were a lot of people doing this or a lot of people seeing these these these these beings these craft and even though they didn't call them craft but i mean you know there are parts in the bible which we're going to get to that chariots in the sky you know chariots in the sky look like glowing fire like on fire

orbs is kind of what it sort of says right and so um you know obviously there's also a lot of scientists out there that are not scientists but ufoologist or astrophysicist or some of these other people some of these people have what is known as the um ancient astronaut theory or the uh theory that potentially we were created by aliens But the reality is is that God is an alien. Regardless of how we see this, I want us to fully understand this. God is not a human being. Yeah, he is not human.

And it is, I think it fully, it fully explains us throughout the Bible. God is spiritual. He is a, he is a, I guess what you would call non-human intelligence. And if you want to understand what non-human intelligence is, and if you, and if you've heard that term lately, The government and whistleblowers are using it extensively with what we are figuring out or trying to understand about this UFO phenomenon, which is insane to a lot of people, which is what the government is trying to hide. But non-human intelligence is what would God, God would be. He is an extraterrestrial. He is not of the world.

He created the world. And so if someone wants to say, well, aliens create the world. Well, aliens did. Even if the God you think is alien, he technically kind of is an alien. he is an extraterrestrial. So what I'm saying is, is that, yes, although we do not understand the Bible and everything that's written and how it's written and all of this stuff, I believe that the amount of things that we think we know about our world and our life and what's going to happen

when we die and all this stuff is minuscule. I really do. Do I think that we're going to die and end up nowhere? No. I do think there's a creator with a master plan. I do think that is God. And, you know, the Bible, I think, is very historical text for our, for our generation. I think that if you look at the Quran, you look at Christianity, you know, there are very, you know, a lot of this stuff kind of comes together.

Well, and I don't know why you're saying. There's not, you know, Jewish comes into that too, babe. Well, yeah. There's a lot of it. But, okay, let's just think about this for just a second. you know, the Bible talks about Earth, this world only Earth. But it also talks about heaven and heavens in the Bible. So we're talking about Earth and what we see, you know, outside of Earth.

But what is, you know, if there are other civilizations on other planets or other places, is God talking about their civilization like he's talking. talking about ours. No, because I think the Bible is written from our standpoint as humans. If God is the creator of the universe, right, then other civilizations on those other planets are going to have their own stories and books of stories about what they believe of God to be. But do you not think that God is probably the creator? Yes, I do believe that.

The whole universe? Yes. You only tell you why I believe that there's only one God. is because you can't have two. No, you can't. Because you would have wars. Yeah. Because I think we've seen that in human nature.

I think we've seen that in everything. If you have two kings of anything. Yeah, but God has done that, though. Think about this. Even in, no, even in like ant colonies, bee colonies, all this stuff, you don't have two kings in one thing. Oh, no. And you have a queen aunt, not a king ant. One of the other will kill the other.

Yeah. But we have to mention queen ants. But they're also kings of other species as well. What I'm saying is you don't have two of the same in the same colony. You can't do it. So if you look at even the most massive scale, which is the creator of everything, which I believe these are all cycles from ants, humans, all the way up to a one god, a solidarity, right, which is a god that is creator of everything.

It's almost like a multi-level marketing or a pyramid scheme. I mean, I know I know I'm not trying to compare to that. Right, right. But like ants are probably at the bottom or like the very small little things. Then you got somewhere in the middle somewhere is like maybe humans. Then potentially these not these things that we're seeing in the sky that are floating around maybe interdimensional. They might be a little bit above us because they're more whatever. And then you have God at the very top of the pyramid, right?

He's the one that created everything underneath. And so, you know, but does that mean that there are not other civilizations and and, you know, but it's the same God? Yeah, I do. I think solidarity is the answer to a lot of this stuff. I think there has to be one of something that created everything. Because I think if we just look at the way the world and the way that nature works, when you have two kings in the same environment, it's never going to work. It's like two king lions.

It's like two alpha lions in the same plane. They're going to fight and they're going to dominate that territory. It's in everything. Bees, ants, people, everything. So if there was another god at some point in time, one of the God defeated the other. That's all I'm saying. But I don't think that's the case.

I don't know the answer to this question. It's just speculation. We don't know. I just want to ask you this question too. Because I think about this very often. And I don't even know how to go about this point. But, okay, let's just say that, you know, let's talk about ant colonies, for example.

We're giants to ants, right? All we have to do is come and step on them. or put gas on them or whatever, right? Yeah. So what I'm saying is, to me, in my opinion, ants might be an assimilation of, you know, a bigger world. Like, we're the bigger people in their world, right? Yeah.

And it's kind of like a simulation thing. Yeah. What if we're in assimilation? Well, it's not necessarily even a simulation. It's just a hierarchy. It's just it goes back to the pyramid. You know, there are hierarchies of intelligence. And I think, you know, you go down in the small, even though it's weird because if you look at like even ants, they're incredibly intelligent for the small little brains they have.

They are extremely intelligent. Yeah, they work together and they know what to do. Yeah, they know what to do in a group. They know what to do in a group level more than humans do. Yeah. And I think that, you know, God had to create that. Yeah, he does. Right.

Well, yeah, I mean, you would think. Yeah, before we get into weeds and all this stuff, we could go on and on and on. about this conversation. And I agree with you. Yes. And it's and all this stuff. But then you can go deep and all these things.

All I'm saying is that we're diving into the Bible with a outside speculative perception. I do believe in God, by the way. I believe there is a God. I believe there is one God. And I believe that. And personally,

personally, but I had to bank anything on anything, I believe Jesus is the Savior. Well, right now, I am just trying to prove that there is a God. Okay. That's what I want to prove. Okay. You know, but we can't really go in this like having a Jenna.

No, we're not. No, I don't. I don't. No. That's what I'm saying. Even though my thoughts and opinions on what I believe, like, okay, if God comes out and says, what do you believe? Jesus or not?

I mean, I have to answer. I'm going to be like, Jesus, yes. Yeah, but you believe that before we started this. No, but I've also questioned that, right? I mean, that's the reality of this. But what I'm saying is if someone had a gun to my head, God, and he said, okay, you're either, you're going to hell or heaven if you get this answer right or wrong. Jesus, I'm like, yes.

I would have to say that. Like, if it comes down to me going to heaven or hell, I have to say that. But it also may be a large part of what I believed and grow up and, you know, whatever, but I have to say that right now. So that's why we're doing this series. we're trying to figure out, let's go through everything. Let's talk everything out, including what we're talking about right now. We're going to probably talk more about aliens and UFOs.

There's a lot to talk about this because I do think these things are connected. And I know it sounds crazy that especially some of those people out there that might find this episode and they're like, they're looking for biblical episodes or whatever. And they're like, oh my God, they're talking about aliens. If you're not, if you're, if you're not a Christian and wondering what the deal is with these UFOs, or if you're a Christian and not wondering what the deal is with these UFOs, or if you're a Christian and not wondering what the deal is with these UFOs. UFOs, then something's going on. You should be wondered. You should be figuring out.

And honestly, there's a lot of Christians right now that are looking at this UFO phenomenon. And they're starting to even get more of their, I guess, more of their heart into like that the time is near of a savior coming back. This is what the Christians believe. Then there's other people who believe we're about to be invaded by aliens. And a lot of people want that because our government is so screwed up. We talked earlier, we played the clip about Tucker Cross and saying, we're not governed by politics anymore. We're governed by force.

And I truly believe that the hiding of UFO or non-human intelligence is either one of two things. Is the fact that they don't want you to screw up their weaponized system of what they're trying to reverse engineer, which I don't believe they have done successfully yet. I don't believe they have done that. But if they do, China shouldn't worry as much as our own population should worry. We should never have these asshole crazy psycho people in control of technology like that. Never, ever. And so if these things are part of God, right?

And say that we say that humans have crashed things, part of God, which is weird and doesn't make a lot of sense. But say that happens, I don't think that. ever reverse engineered and hopefully not because i don't think humans need that technology i don't think anyone deserves that besides whatever has it um there's so many questions and i think there's answers but we got to figure them out and we got to connect a lot of these things um so guys and it's crazy it is my mind's blown yeah i know and i've been around for a long time and i never even knew what neflin was until like the last six months. I'm not getting.

Like it's just weird. And if you guys come on here and want us to, you know, even the first three episodes, you want us to like, you're looking at us like, oh my God, these guys are stupid with the Bible or whatever. Okay, you can say that. But we're just being real.

We're trying to be real. We're trying to be ourselves. We're just trying to talk about things that maybe some of you think about at night. Right. And I do feel like we're on a mission. I feel like we're going to get somewhere. So just stick with us.

stick with us on this journey. We're going to get somewhere, guys. This has been an hour and 51. It's almost two hours long. We're going to go watch DeSantis destroy Gavin Newsom in this debate. Because, like, how would he not destroy Gavin Newsom in this debate? Like, why has Gavin Newsom ever even decided to debate?

Oh, my God. I told Chad tonight he's going to say, well, I did clean up San Francisco for China. Yeah, for a communist leader because that's what we're headed towards, right? but guys without any more we're going to play this last song it's overcoming by Cosby

C-O-S-B-E hopefully you learn something tonight the next chapter is going to get even crazier well and we probably have more questions than we've learned anything no we do we do

but the next chapter is going to get very crazy I want you guys to definitely tune into that and I can't wait till we get the New Testament. Talk about the end times. The end times is going to be great.

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