Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - The Manhattan Project Conspiracy Part 1 | Oppenheimer & The Race For Nuclear

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

On this episode, we delve into the Manhattan Project and the global race for nuclear weapons. In Part 1, we explore the history of the Manhattan Project, the key figures involved, and some of the initial conspiracies surrounding it. One controversial aspect of the project was the experiment conducted on unsuspecting U.S. citizens with plutonium, but there's much more to this story than meets the eye. Throughout this series, we'll also examine potential connections to UFOs, UAPs, and advanced non-human intelligence. All of this and more on this episode of The Manhattan Project Conspiracy Part 1 | Oppenheimer & The Race For NuclearOur X Account

Standing on the crater like the prophets once said, and the ashes are all cold now, no more bullets. And the embers are dead whispers. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry, on tonight's episode. We're going to be talking about the Manhattan Project. Now, the Manhattan Project, for those that do not know, was a research and development program undertaken during World War II to produce the first nuclear weapons.

It was led by the United States in collaboration with the United Kingdom and Canada. The result of this program actually led to the massive bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Some of you may have seen the movie Oppenheimer, where Oppenheimer it follows, was one of the lead scientist behind the development of the first nuclear warhead. There has been so much speculation and conspiracy and all of this surrounding where nuclear actually came from. Where did Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, and others get the knowledge to actually put this into practice by putting it inside of a nuclear warhead that killed thousands and thousands of people in Japan? obviously this comes during the wars this was a race for weaponry we had a race of weaponry between

germany united states the soviets at the time and uh as the result also of this uh you had oppenheimer which by many was considered to be a war hero a hero to potentially have stopped the war um then he faced tons of scrutiny to where the government came in wanted to destroy his life and there's definitely speculation on why they actually came in and wanted to destroy his life. But also, guys, this could be a two-part series because we have a lot to go through on this Manhattan project. More in particular also, for those UFO people out there, which is us as well. There is definitely connections between the UFO community, the UFO world, and the government's UFO, potentially, I guess, clandestine programs that Oppenheimer may have been a part of. there's a lot of similarities behind the Manhattan Project and other UFO secrecy programs.

Many people have connected Oppenheimer with the Majestic 12, Project Blue Book. There's so many things that is surrounding this story. And so, guys, we're going to do our very best to give you all the details of this. Go through the real history of the Manhattan Project other than just what the movie, you know, portrays. And we're also going to talk about the UFO, you know, highly advanced tech, reverse engineered tech that maybe we got this actual weaponry from. We're going to talk about all. By the way, the name of this song is Mike Oldfield called Nuclear. I felt like that was pretty fitting for this episode.

That's a great song for this episode. Yeah, absolutely. We played this song many times on the show where we've talked about the current situation right now between Russia, Ukraine, in particular NATO and Russia. Russia. And, you know, the reality of this is so many people have been talking lately about how close we are to World War III, how close we are to a nuclear annihilation. We are continuing to inch closer and closer to a nuclear war with Russia. We have Western weapons being used inside of Ukraine that United States is directly supplying to Ukraine, where they are now hitting targets within 200 miles, according to Biden, of the border inside of Russia.

And let me tell you something. Robert F. Kennedy just recently posted, and I'm going to read this to you guys, because I actually commented on it. My comments is actually one of the top comments. But Robert F. Kennedy said here the other day, I am extremely concerned, as we should all be, about recent Ukrainian attacks on Russia's strategic radar systems that provide early warning for incoming intercontinental ballistic missiles. He says, I can't see how this helps Ukraine's war effort. Ukraine is not threatened by Russia's ICBM defenses, so why did they do it? How would the U.S. respond if a Russian proxy started taking out our early warning systems? We would think that they were preparing to launch a nuclear attack. And this is a provocation of the most dangerous kind with all that ails our nation. Can't we think of something better to do than to provoke a nuclear war with Russia?

And my comment was, the United States and Ukraine are taking a dangerous risk here. Russia is unlikely to remain passive in response to their, these kinds of provocations. Obviously, there's a lot of comments on there. Some of the comments say, I'm pretty sure that Russia hasn't been passive this entire time, considering they're the ones that started this war, and they're the ones that invaded Ukraine.

But guys, we would not even be in this situation or even having that topic at all if it wasn't for people like Oppenheimer and more specifically the Manhattan Project. But what we're also going to dive deeper into is where did the Manhattan Project science even come from? Right. That's the big question. We don't know. We can talk all day about how smart Oppenheimer was and how smart all the other scientists that surrounded Oppenheimer was. We can talk about Albright Einstein. Many people don't realize, but yeah, Oppenheimer and Einstein, they were both very influential in getting this weapon to where it is today. Obviously, most people when you think about Albert Einstein, you think of genius. That's like that's one of the greatest genius minds of our time. We've always heard about. We've heard about them in school. We've heard about them. everywhere. But more specifically, if you watch Oppenheimer, the movie, and then if you really know

about the Manhattan Project, how close that Einstein and Oppenheimer were, it's pretty cool. It kind of just gives you a little more history of who Albert Einstein actually was. Yeah, it is really cool. And just to be honest, I never knew anything about the Manhattan Project in school. We never learned about that. So I didn't know who Oppenheimer was. So it was a very interesting story. I knew about the hydrogen bombs and, you know, the nuclear bombs and things like that,

but I didn't know he was like the founder of the bomb. Yeah, he was very interesting. He was the god of destruction, as some people have called him. Now, as I said, guys, the Manhattan Project is very complex. We want to go through the history of the Manhattan Project. I've been debating on what to play first, whether we should play a clip that kind of gives you some dirty details, some of the stuff behind the Manhattan Project, or whether we should just, go down the history rabbit hole, right?

Let's just go ahead and go down the history rabbit hole. Now, I will tell you guys, I am still sick. I'm still battling this crap, so bear with me. My voice does sound a little weird, but, you know, it was, I guess, it was inevitable that I was going to get sick at some point in time. So when the bomb dropped in 1945, it's important to realize what technologies had been revolutionary in the lifetimes of the minds behind the Manhattan Project. So I think about this, automobiles, for one, they were only just starting to be called

cars, or also known, there's also airplanes, radio, film, television. And so in short, a time, people found that they were in the most enlightened period of human history. Now, the world around them was moving so fast. And Oppenheimer had been born less than a year after the Wright brothers took off from Kitty Hawk, but he was only 15 when he saw his first transatlantic flight. And yet, they had experienced two world wars in their lifetimes between them, at least 90,000 casualties. And if you count famine and disease probably closer to 120,000. Now, that would have been 6% of the entire world population in 1940, or if you've been Jewish, like Oppenheimer, around half of all European Jews had been eradicated. So here, they had given the world the tools with which to destroy itself

completely. And with mathematical efficiency, they had hoped what they had done was the right thing. Now, Oppenheimer said, it is perfectly obvious that the whole world is going to hell. The only possible chance that it might not is that we do not attempt to prevent it from doing so. All of this is preamble as to why the Manhattan Project is one of the most fascinating feats of human science and engineering. And at a time where science was doing so much, technology was advancing so far, it continued to be thrown into the war machine time and time again. Every time people said of new technologies, war is over, no one would be terrible enough to fight knowing this weapon exists. And yet time and time again, those weapons were used. Think about mustard gas, sarin, a Zacklon B.

Now, airplanes, tanks, canister shots from artillery. Not only were they weapons people had used, but they had been used in mass on civilian targets. So at the Trinity test site, a bunch of scientists prayed that this time, this time they would be right. Now famously, the scientists didn't know whether the first bomb would set off a chain reaction that would continue ripping through the hydrogen in the atmosphere and literally set the entire world on fire. But it had worked exactly as intended, and that might be the end result anyway.

So when these scientists, Oppenheimer and all of the other ones at Los Alamos National Laboratory is what is actually known as Los Alamos National Laboratory now, when they actually were getting ready to set off this bomb, Oppenheimer did not know whether or not this would literally light the entire world. on fire. He had a fear that, hey, this could potentially ignite the hydrogen in the atmosphere and cause a complete destruction of the world.

And there was a point in time, if you guys have watched the movie, this is not a spoiler alert, but one of the guys looks at him and says, how do we know that this is not going, and it was the general. He asked Oppenheimer, he says, how do we know that this is not going to destroy the world? He says, I don't know. He said, but it's

near zero. It's near zero. And he said, what would you like me to say? He's like, I would like you to say zero percent chance, but you're not saying that. He's like, no, I can't say that. So they were this willing to potentially destroy the world then in the 1940s. And so think about guys, probably how far advanced weapons we have now and what types of tests they have done to test these things that even back in the 40s, they were willing to destroy the world, just to see if they could get ahead of the weapons curve over the Soviets, over the Germans, over whoever potentially was. also behind this. Now, the alternatives were grim, though. The casualties predicted for the invasion of Japan were at least one million. The amount of purple heart metals manufactured in anticipation

are still being used today. They've lasted through Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq. So they knew that back then, the amount of purple hearts that they were going to feel like they had to give out because of this war, they have been used in all of these other wars since. That's how many they actually manufactured then. Men on both sides of the war turned to science. One man, Enrico Fermi, changed from one to the other. After receiving the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1939, Fermi took his family straight from Stockholm to New York,

where he was immediately offered a choice of five professorships. His work on statistical models and mathematical physics had been hugely important to the field of nuclear physics, including splitting the atom. And in the United States, he continued his work on the idea of a chain reaction, which was atom splitting that caused more atoms to split that cascaded outwards. The key was that previous nuclear reactions had generated one neutron per interaction, whereas his new work showed that you could get two from uranium.

Work he had refused to do with Mezzaluni, he did freely in the United States. Now, the hopes are always that it would be used for nuclear power. Even in those early days, though, there was a grim recognition among the scientists that it'd be used for a weapon as fast as it possibly could. Better theirs than Hitler's as what their one of their sayings was. Now, the scientists didn't think that a president would listen to the significance of a few blips on a screen. They took the results to Albert Einstein himself, already a pop culture legend. Now, Einstein quickly agreed with the implications that this was a doomsday weapon in potential.

And he says, I did not even think about that. So was drafted the Einstein's Cezard letter, with Cossard being one of the scientists who had teamed up with Fermi to split uranium. His paper to Einstein showed the significance of the results. And Einstein's signature showed that he both confirmed and agreed with the findings. Now, part of the fear was that Germany would also be working on the technology, and Hitler's richest source of uranium deposits would be the Belgium Congo. Einstein knew that the Belgium royal family and his signature was important in warning them as well, as being a source of credibility to the U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Now, history continues to be a small place.

Einstein had worked with Szilard previously. They invented a refrigerator together in 1926. Now, the letter dictated by Einstein in German, then translated by Sassard, a stenographer, who thought he was a nutcase, talked about the extremely powerful bombs, and more so where he signed off in Einstein's name follows. And it says, Dear Mr. Roosevelt,

Some recent work by E. Fermi and Cesar, which has been communicated to me in manuscript, leads me to expect that the element uranium may be turned into a new and important source of energy in the immediate future. Certain aspects of the situation, which has arisen, seem to call for watchfulness and, if necessary, quick action on the part of the administration. I believe, therefore, that it is my duty to bring to your attention the following facts and recommendations. In the course of the last four months, it has been made probable through the work of Joliet in France as well as Fermi and Sazard in America, that it may become possible to set up a nuclear chain reaction and a large mass of uranium by which vast amounts of power and large quantities of new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future. This phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable through much less certainty that,

extremely powerful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this type carried by boat and exploded in a port might very well destroy the entire, or sorry, the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However, such bombs might very well prove to be heavy for the transportation by air. Now, the United States is only very poor ores of uranium in moderate quantities. There is some good ore in Canada and the former Czechoslovakia, while the most important source of uranium is in the Belgium Congo. In view of the situation, you may think it is desirable to have some permanent contact

maintained between the administration and the group of physicists working on chain reactions in America. One possible way of achieving this might be for you to entrust this task or trust with this task a person who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial capacity. His task might comprise the following. A. To approach the government to department depart.

and keep them informed to further development and put forward recommendations for government action given particular attention to the probable or sorry the problem of securing a supply of uranium or for the United States. B is to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being carried on within the limits of the budgets of the university laboratories by providing funds, if such funds be required, through his contacts with private persons who are willing to make contributions for this cause, and perhaps also by obtaining the cooperation of industrial laboratories, which have the necessary equipment.

He says, I understand that Germany has actually stopped the cell of uranium from the Czechoslovakians, mines, which she has taken over, that she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Undersecretary of State, von Weiske's, sir, is attached to the Williams Institute in Berlin, where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated. Yours very truly Albert Einstein. So it's a pretty good letter and it highlights how prescript that people were and what he specifically feared. But more in particular, Albert Einstein knew what this was going to basically be a chain reaction for. No pun intended. Because what a actual nuclear bomb is, a chain reaction of atoms splitting. And at this time,

at the time of the letter, they did not know necessarily how they could condense this. weapon in such a small capsule because even when he talks about this here, he said, I don't even know that airplanes could transport something this big, as big as it would take to get this. So there were, even though Albert Einstein knew a lot about the science behind this, the physics behind this, it was not until Oppenheimer and other scientists came in where they really harnessed the power of nuclear. And then they started to even condense it even further to make a more powerful weapon, but not necessarily something that had to be as big as what Albert Einstein himself was

explained here to Roosevelt. So it's a very, very interesting concept. So my dear professor, the White House Washington, October 19th, 1939, he says, I want to thank you for your recent letter and the most interesting and important enclosure. I found this data of such importance that I have convened a board consisting of the head of the Bureau of Standards and a chosen representative of the Army and Navy to thoroughly investigate the possibilities of your suggestion regarding the element of uranium. I am glad to say that Dr. Sachs will cooperate and work with this committee, and I feel

this is the most practical and effective method of dealing with the subject. Please accept my sincere thanks. Very sincerely yours, Roosevelt. So this is who he was talking back to Albert Einstein in this letter. So, you see, the letter directly led to the creation of the Manhattan Project, right? This is where the Manhattan Project originally ever came from. And one of the things the Oppenheimer movie does not necessarily show you exactly is where the Manhattan Project specifically came from. In 1947, he was quoted saying, had I known that the Germans would not succeed in developing an atomic bomb,

I would have done nothing, Einstein wrote, the letter to prevent the Nazis having one, not to end with the U.S. gaining one. So Albert Einstein's fear was that the Nazis were going to gain this power, this weaponry. And so that is the only reason he ever came to the United States government with this technology, or at least basically sending them a big red flag. Hey, guys, we got to do this. We know this is possible because we think the Germans are going to do this. And that is actually what created it. Because Albert Einstein knew that this would be used as a weapon and could be extremely dangerous or even destroy the world.

And so did Oppenheimer. He knew that as well. but it was, you either take a chance and you build this bomb or you let the Germans build it and, you know, we're at their mercy. Yeah, absolutely for sure. And, you know, obviously during this time, you have the Germans. They're killing a bunch of Jews and they were very evil, you know, party back then, I guess you can call it, the Nazi party. And, you know, keeping in mind, we'll get in a little more detail about actually how NASA was founded, the Operation Paperclip. Well, we rushed to the Nazis with their scientists. We wanted to get their scientists, Warren Von Braun, and all these others.

We brought them over to create NASA. Also, the Soviets got some of those scientists as well. So for those of you that don't know, we've always hated Russia, aka the Soviets. And at this time, I believe Stalin was in charge. And so it's always been one of those things where we've hated Russia. We've hated the Soviet Union. It's always been that. And, Trier, you were asking earlier, you know, why have we always hated Russia, right?

And to me, the more we get into this story, to me, I believe it's always been about, first of all, I think Russia is probably more advanced and technologically advanced in weaponry than we know. We at the very least know that Russia right now is the leader in the world for hypersonic nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles. We know that. We also know they're probably the leader potentially in EMP weapons that can also be used on hypersonic missiles. Now, for example, during the first part of the Russia-Ukraine war, we had the United States at one point in time, about a year ago, we did this hypersonic missile test. I believe it was somewhere in Arizona or New Mexico or wherever it was. And you know what happened to our hypersonic missile test? It failed.

It blew up going, I mean, I don't even know if it was, you know, a few thousand feet in the air when this thing exploded. Apparently, we did also do another hypersonic missile test where apparently it was successful. but nonetheless, we know, for one, that Russia has used hypersonic missiles inside of Ukraine already. Now, that's not to say these hypersonic missiles were carrying obviously nuclear warheads. You know, you think about an intercontinental ballistic missile. It can carry numerous payloads of, you know, various weapons, various bombs, whatever the case may be, cluster bombs, phosphorus bombs, you name it. The actual transportation of that weapon is what is hypersonic.

And so if you can transport a nuclear. weapon hypersonically, that's a very dangerous thing to the United States because it is very hard to not only shoot down, but you're thinking of hypersonic weapons that are thousands of miles an hour and potentially these weapons can turn on a dime, which is absolutely crazy. All right, so let's get back into the history of this. But Roosevelt was convinced a committee was formed and the modern equivalent of 100,000 was cleared in graphite and uranium ore. $100,000.

In this letter, it is an important note, though, by this time, Germany had started looking into its own atomic program and had seized all exports of uranium and Einstein told Sazard it was an arms race. Now, FDR was given a budget to approve before Congress. $2 billion or $70 billion in 2016 dollars is probably more like over $100 billion now, twice the budget of the entire Marine Corps, keep in mind. So now we get to the Stagg Field. And in it was the famous Chicago Pau I. It was the world's first, self-sustaining nuclear reactor, a crude pile of black bricks and wooden timbers, according to Fermi. Now, Fermi himself had only been able to get two tons of uranium metal, not enough

for the stack to go critical. Now, the Westinghouse lamp company was brought in to make sure, or sorry, to make up the extra three tons needed. Now, the light bulb manufacturers made apparatus out of metal bins, nicked from local markets, put important things in the basement, and the ceiling when they ran out of space, all in an effort to supply the war effort with uranium for some reason, and alloy of sorts, they were told. A lot of the uranium for the first ever nuclear reactor, like 60% of it, was literally refined in a dust pin at some point.

Everyone did the math time and time again. The Chicago pile would go critical. That was a self-sustaining reaction that would enrich the uranium and produce plutonium, without going super critical, which is what a nuclear bomb is. Now men with axes to cut apart the timber stood at the sides, the suicide squad, as I recalled. Another held a rod up by a rope. If the radiation got excessive, he'd kill over and die, dropping a cadmium rod that would absorb neutrons, ideally saving the city.

Another, Samuel Allison, stood ready with a bucket of concentrated cadmium nitride, which he was to throw over the pile if the radiation did not kill him first. So as you know, this is why they call them the suicide squad. They were literally there to kill themselves to allow for this, you know, for not to basically have a nuclear meltdown. All the math checked out, but this was still an untested hypothesis. They didn't know this wouldn't blow up the entire city of Chicago. There simply had it been enough time or money to move everything safely out into the desert somewhere, and it had no radiation shielding or cooling system whatsoever.

But when the control rods were removed from the stack, the stack went critical. The reaction worked. FDR received a telegram, the Italian navigator, Fermi, has landed safely in the new world. And it quotes, how were the natives? Very friendly, he says. They celebrate with a bottle of Shianti, which they drank with paper cups. The generals met with representatives of the corporations like General Electric and explained what needed to be done. They were all read the Espionage Act, information that left that room could be punishable by a minimum of 30 years and up to death.

If they wish to leave the room, they would be free to do so. Nobody wanted a parallel drawn between them and the Germans. The men stayed. Now, by this time, the Manhattan Project was also funneling resources into European agents to discover German labs and found that they were making progress of their own. Men like Special Operations executives were called upon, known by some of the few who knew of it all as the Ministry of Urgent Manly Warfare. They would discover the Axis heavy water facility in Norway. The sabotage of the telemark atomic facilities is one of the cornerstone successes that prevented the Nazis achieving their own nuclear weapons. Now, the Ministry of Urgent Manly Warfare was the Crem de la Crem of British Special Forces.

Among its number was Christopher Lee. Yes, the Christopher Lee. And its members were assigned to the number 30 assault unit, which was overseen by Ian Fleming, who would later write the Bond novels based on his experiences. Also, they operate out of Baker Street, the famed House of Sherlock Holmes, included. So James Bond and Truman fought Nazis out of Sherlock Holmes Place in 1943. That's a very weird history, right? So we think about all these movies, Sherlock Holmes, James Bond, all this stuff is actually

based on history, and it's all specifically based around this timeframe of the Manhattan project. There was an immense need to turn tons of uranium or into refined plutonium. DuPont got the contract for SiteW, the main plutonium refinement center. DuPont was offered a cost plus fixed fee contract, but the president of the company didn't want anything. Even asked for the contract to explicitly exclude the company from acquiring any patent rights. For legal reasons, a nominal fee of $1 was agreed upon. After the war, DuPont asked to be released from the contract early and had to return $0.33.

SiteW was next to the Columbia River, whose water would be critical for cooling the reactors. I cannot stress enough, it's only been about three years since people even worked out that you could even get nuclear chain reactions at all, when SiteW goes online, given the world its first industrial-scale plutonium reactor. That would probably explain why it's currently the biggest environmental disaster blight in the continental United States and holds two-thirds of all the liquid radioactive waste in the country. Oak Ridge would house Site Y. In 1941, Oak Ridge had a population in the single digits. By 1943, it was the fifth largest city in Washington State, a town whose entire purpose was taken entire trainloads of pitch bin from Canada and turning it into tiny speck metal dust.

Uranium was enriched going from about 1% uranium, 235 to 99% uranium or 238, to about 5% 235 reactor grade, to between 20 and 85% of. weapons grade. After the initial separation, uranium was processed in the Y-12 facility, where electromagnetic coils refined it even further. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough copper due to wartime shortages to make the coils. Instead, they took a loan from the Treasury of 12,300 tons of silver. However, when the amount was requested, the Undersecretary of Treasury replied, in the Treasury, we do not speak of tons of silver. Our unit is the Troy ounce. The Troy ounce for the metric among you is about 30 grams.

So the loan was granted as 395 million troy ounces of silver. Less than 0.036 out of more than 300 million worth of silver was lost to the process. The treasury got back the rest in exchange for the treasury not charging interest on the loan, and I presume the army didn't charge for their security services either. So obviously at this time, this is a very rapid time of new, uh, time of nuclear growth. And we've not really truly got into Oppenheimer and who he is and where he came from necessarily yet. But while we're going down this rabbit hole in the history of the Manhattan project, I want to play you a quick clip. And this is the dark secrets of the Manhattan Project,

which we'll get into now. Here you go. In 1946, a 41-year-old hairdresser named Janet Stott came to a strong memorial hospital in Rochester, New York to be treated for scleroderma, a connective tissue condition. She had escaped the violence against Jews in Belarus during the Second World War and was hoping to begin a new life in the United States. What Stott didn't know was that she would become one of the 18 people, the U.S. government secretly injected with plutonium from 1945 to 1947 as part of the Manhattan Project. None of them ever found out. The Manhattan Project was the codename given to the American-led effort to research and build a functional atomic weapon during World War II.

It recruited thousands of scientists worldwide and took place across multiple continents. The result of these efforts was the construction of the world's first ever atomic bombs, which were later dropped on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, ultimately ending the Second World War. The mobilization for the program began in 1939, when the president of the United States, Franklin D. Roosevelt, received a startling letter from Albert Einstein with an urgent message. physicists had discovered that uranium had the potential to generate unprecedented amounts of energy

that could be used in creating the world's strongest and most devastating bomb. What was more urgent in Einstein's letter was that he suspected that Nazi Germany was already stockpiling this radioactive element in hopes of creating a weapon of mass destruction. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, the United States joined the war alongside the Allied forces, and in 1942, the Manhattan Project was officially born. bringing forth an atomic revolution shrouded by secrecy, espionage, and a whole lot of controversy. While nuclear research had begun in the U.S. before its involvement in the war,

the Manhattan Project stood out because it wasn't purely theoretical. Its purpose was clear-cut, built an atomic bomb before the Germans. Within a year, it became the number one priority during the war. It got all the funding, all the resources, and all of the green lights. The research was mainly centered around the fission of uranium-235 and plutonial. 238, which split and release heat and atoms with smaller atomic numbers when enriched with an extra neutron. The project's goal was to produce a chain reaction from splitting these atoms to release enough

energy to trigger an explosion. Despite its name, the Manhattan Project took place all over the U.S., Canada, England, the Belgian Congo, and parts of the South Pacific, but its most famous research facility was the Los Alamos National Laboratory, located in the remote mountains of northern New Mexico. As the war advanced and Nazi Germany faltered in Europe, the focus of the project turned to Japan. After the first atomic bomb, called the gadget, was successfully tested around 240 kilometers, or 140 miles from Los Alamos, a uranium bomb called Little Boy and a plutonium bomb called Fat Man, were dropped on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. More than 200,000 people were killed instantly, almost all of them civilians.

At its peak, the Manhattan Project employed 100. 130,000 workers and by the end of the war, the U.S. had spent $2.2 billion to produce little boy and fat men. While the research and development of the bombs is in itself controversial, especially with many scientists condemning it, there is another aspect of the program that is just controversial, or even more so, it's often forgotten. At that time, the project's personnel faced many issues handling recently discovered elements, such as plutonium that had unknown health risks. So, without regard for human life and safety, the U.S. government turned to human experimentation. The leaders of the Manhattan Project understood the urgency of measuring the impact

of radiation on the human body, and in 1942, established a division whose purpose was to protect the health of workers and the public from radiation. They were also tasked with studying potential hazards to establish tolerance doses and develop methods of treatment. Ironically, the medical term of the Manhattan Project concluded that, in order to do all the, this, controlled human experiments were necessary. So between 1945 and 1947, 18 subjects were unwittingly injected with plutonium. Several others were exposed to uranium, plutonium, and americum. The experiments were conducted at the Manhattan Project-affiliated hospitals all over the U.S., knowing that plutonium might be carcinogenic or even fatal

to the unsuspecting subjects. Janet Schott never knew that plutonium was in her veins. The dose she was administered was 56 times the amount of radiation an average person absorbs in their lifetime. All of that straight into her veins all at once. Janet lived the remaining 29 years of her life in excruciating pain, suffering from a cancer that ultimately led to her death. Just like Stott, none of the other test subjects were informed of the substances they were being injected with, and in order to further understand the appalling nature of these experiments, is important to highlight some of their stories.

Eb Kade was the first victim. On March 24, 1945, he was brought to the Army Hospital in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, after fracturing bones in a car accident. Dr. Heimer Friedel, one of the initial doctors assigned to the Manhattan Project, wrote to Dr. Lewis Hempelman, the Director of Health at Los Alamos,

that he found the primary subject for the first human plutonium experiment. He gave Cade the code name HP12, with HP standing for human product. On April 10, 1945, Cade was administered 4.7 micrograms of plutonium, which Fradal suspected was nearly five times the human body's limit. Samples of his teeth and a biopsy of his bones were taken shortly afterwards, and Cade was released.

The doctors didn't expect him to live for more than 10 years, yet they did what they did with eyes wide open. Eight years after the injection, Cade died of heart failure. Similarly, Albert Stevens received a plutonium injection in California only a month after Cade. He was misdiagnosed with terminal stomach cancer, which later turned out to be just a benign ulcer. Stevens was never informed that he didn't have cancer, but was instead given a dose of plutonium 238. Doctors reportedly knew that the dose was potentially carcinogenic, but still administered it, which ultimately led to Stephen's death, also from heart failure. Just like Janet Stott, Ila Charlton, codename HP3 was also administered to Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester in 1945.

Three weeks later, she received a plutonium injection of 4.9 micrograms. Charlton was discharged in December, but she was regularly hospitalized after that until her death almost 40 years later by cardiac arrest as well. But perhaps the most questionable and horrendous case of all of that was of Simeon Shaw, a four-year-old suffering from terminal bone cancer. He was flown from Australia believing that he would be receiving the best available treatments for his condition. What he received instead was a death sentence in the form of a plutonium injection at California's UCSF Hospital in 1946. What is the most shocking about Shaw's case is that he was immediately flown to Australia afterwards with no follow-up on his case and no radioactive data collected. He died eight months later.

The remaining human test subjects all share similar stories where they either died from the toxic effects of radiation or were impaired by lifelong illnesses. What's worse is that human experimentation was justified under the claim that all patients chosen were terminally ill, which simply wasn't true. A lot of those dose were misdiagnosed, and repeated errors in procedure, research, and documentation were made, calling in a question the FXC of the experiments themselves. The Manhattan Project leaders claimed that these experiments were necessary to advance the science of nuclear physics. However, as we saw what the cases mentioned, the follow-up research wasn't thorough enough, and many of the samples ended up being contaminated or destroyed. So they basically ruined people's lives for absolutely nothing. Even after the Manhattan Project achieved its intended goal and World War II ended,

human experimentation continued well into the Cold War. There's evidence of several large-scale projects all throughout the U.S. that failed to inform their subjects of the health hazard of their experiments. One of the most shocking was intentionally exposing a school for disabled and special needs children in Massachusetts to radioactive iron and calcium in a government-sponsored study. Between 1953 and 1957, uranium injection experiments were also conducted on another 11 patients at Massachusetts General Hospital. Scientists concluded that uranium localized in the kidneys at a much higher rate than previously thought. Sadly, despite the experiment's results and the human lives lost, the occupational standards for uranium didn't change, making these human sacrifices unjustified and unnecessary.

In the early 1990s, the Albuquerque Tribune exposed the nature of the experiments and the identities of the test subjects. All of them had already died, not knowing that they were dosed by the doctors that they trusted to cure them. J. Robert Oppenheimer, the Los Alamos Laboratory Director and the scientists aptly dubbed the the father of the atomic bomb, reportedly knew the nature of these experiments, but expressed that he didn't want them conducted in his laboratory. There is even evidence that he personally approved plutonium and uranium shipments to be used for human experimentation. The secrecy that revolved around the project makes it difficult to trace the chain of command,

but there is enough evidence to show that all the health and medical directors of the Manhattan program were somehow invested in this research. They knew what was underway, with many even cheering it on. The families of the victims were eventually compensated by the government, and a total of $4.8 million was paid in damages, a little more than $9 million today. The U.S. government also adopted new laws in 1997, preventing secret scientific testing on humans. Janice Jott's nephew said that the money didn't help his family get over the issue. His aunt left Belarus to avoid persecution and came to America only to be injected with a radioactive element that would ruin the rest of her life and lead her to her government. grave.

Today, the Manhattan Project is rotted by U.S. officials for the crucial role it played in ending the Second World War. But the controversy that surrounds it is still prevalent. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs leveled two cities in a matter of seconds, wiping out entire populations, and the testing that led up to those events resulted in early death or lifelong pain for over a dozen unsuspecting civilians. As with all wars, the innocent ended up paying the heaviest price. Many also argue that the success in developing the first atomic bombs led to the age of the Cold War and the race towards the development of nuclear weapons that are now a threat to humanity.

After sending Roosevelt his urgent letter, Einstein later came to regret his decisions. Had I known that the Germans would not succeed in developing an atomic bomb, I would have done nothing, he famously said. When testing the gadget right outside Los Alamos, Oppenheimer quoted Hindu scripture, foreseeing the immediate threat of nuclear weapons across the planet. Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds. One week later, the first atomic bombs were dropped, and the world as we know it changed forever. It was the pseudo-peace that existed following the Second World War worth the human sacrifice.

So there we go. Yeah, they did not show any of that in the movie. No, definitely not. See, and that's why we want to do the Manhattan. and project on this podcast because for those of you that have watched Oppenheimer, which I do encourage you to go watch it, it's a little bit all over the place, right? And there are some things in Oppenheimer that they do tell the true story up, right? For example, which we'll get into, but more specifically when they basically turned against Oppenheimer. And this was as Oppenheimer

was coming out, and this was after he was very influential and key in developing the atomic bomb or also the nuclear bomb. So when he came out, after all of this, and especially after these bombs are dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, he started kind of going around. First, he went to the government. He started saying, look, guys, at least this is how the movie portrays it. But also, as you just heard, I think he also knew about the dangers. I think he knew about the experiments that was being done on unsuspecting civilians in our own country.

Right. Now, this is not the first time that we have done these unsuspecting things on our own civilians, including MK Ultra, where they administered drugs such as LSD, not just on military members, but they also did this on unsuspecting civilians. But Oppenheimer kind of went on this, I guess, what you could say, crusade or tour, to where he was speaking out in some way, shape, or form about, number one, he thinks that this is a very bad thing, what he actually created. I think he felt guilt because there was a part, there was a time frame to where right after this.

I mean, he had met with people in the government. And, you know, during the movie Oppenheimer, when he goes up with the general and he meets with, you know, basically probably the joint chiefs of staff and whoever else, and he meets with these people. And they're talking about, hey, what cities should we hit in Japan? And, and, you know, didn't necessarily talk too much about how many civilians would be killed. Although they knew there would be many civilians killed. They were literally just trying to figure out what cities would be the best cities to kill shit tons of people. And the reality of this was is that although as an American, you always think that the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, you've always been told this is what stopped the war. This is what saved millions of American lives and so on and so forth.

But the reality of this situation was is that because we used a bomb to show our power on civilians, that's essentially what the entire thing was. We wanted to show how many people we could kill. And 90% of the people that died in these scenarios were civilians. and it just goes back to number one. It shows that the government does not give a damn about civilian life. They never have. We have it in a very long time. We didn't then.

We don't now. You look at the Israel-Palestine thing. There's so much debate around, you know, the war between Israel and Palestine. No matter what side you're on, if you're Israeli, if you're Palestine, if you're Russia, Ukraine, no matter what the situation is, civilian life is always at the hands of the elite and the powerful. And they do not give a damn about you. this, I think, showed it leading up to even the creation of this bomb where they were testing plutonium on unsuspecting people and killing them, basically. And it shows you that if you were a politician or even the president of the United States

or a president of another country, you have to be heartless because Truman, I mean, he even called Oppenheimer a crybaby. And I looked that up to see if it was real or not. Now, Truman's the one that came in after Roosevelt, right? Yeah, he was the one that called him a crybaby. And I said, and I looked it up. He really did call him a crime baby, but it was indirectly. He just said it in his close cabinet.

He didn't say it to his face. But that just shows you how heartless, you know, presidents can be and don't give a crap about human life. Yeah, absolutely. They don't. They don't. And, you know, there was a four-year-old with bone cancer in 1946 that flew from Australia because he thought that he was going to get the care that he needed in the United States. They felt like they were told about some new treatment or whatever BS that they were probably fed. and what did they do instead, inject them with plutonium dead eight months later.

They also had experiments, radiation experiments, on disabled kids' homes or schools. To where they put this radiation right outside the schools or in, you know, wherever they were playing or potentially even their food. We don't know 100%. But also, you know, keeping in mind, Janet, I guess supposedly the first experiment, although I don't believe at all we know about all the people they actually experiment. minute on back then. But, you know, she was injected with 56 times the amount of radiation than normal people get in their entire lifetime. And for those that don't realize, people do get radiation throughout your life.

We get radiation through the things we're around in technology. We're around more radiation now than we've ever been around. You know, people before the vaccine, by the way, always wonder why the cancer rates were going up. And the reality of that is, is because of technology in large part. Technology is a large cause of that. then once they started putting things in our foods to where things are genetically modified. We can't even almost eat anything natural anymore.

Even if you go and buy a farm tomorrow, you have to look far and wide to find non-genetically modified seeds. I'm talking about even seeds to grow the actual plant because that still in turn is not a natural production of any type of growth or life or plant life on this earth. So when you start going against natural, you know, natural things, such as natural plants, natural food, natural, all of this stuff, your body reacts very strangely to it because it starts. It's foreign. Yeah, yeah, it's a foreign object, essentially. And what happens when that happens? Well, free radicals are exposed.

It's almost like your body's in somewhat attacking itself, which is what causes cancer in a lot of these cases, you know. And then we think about this Manhattan project and what they were doing with the plutonium. Or are they doing that now? one. We've got to ask ourselves this before we go any further. Obviously, we remember COVID-19. That was just, you know, a few years ago. Technically, it's still going on. And then we had the vaccine rollout, an experimental vaccine where they told the vaccine manufacturers that because of the emergency use authorization, we will not hold you liable. You could kill half of the freaking planet, which I don't. I don't know. We don't know what's going on right now,

allegedly. But they're, you know, but you know, we're not going to hold you liable. You're going to be fine. Don't worry. No one's going to sue you. We're going to protect you, just like I'm sure everyone around the Manhattan Project was protected. Because regardless of how you see this, there was a question today that I saw next. It says who runs the world, but more specifically who runs the United States. And as we know, biopharmaceutical, military, military, industrial complex, everything is tied to military and money is who runs the world, really. I mean, there's a reason, guys, that the president of the United States right now, when he gets out of a vehicle, he acts like he has no idea where he's at.

If he goes to a D-Day ceremony like he did yesterday, it looked like he was shitting his pants. We're not exactly sure what he was doing. Doesn't matter. He had to leave the D-Day ceremony. Then at another ceremony, a little bit later in the day, he was falling asleep at the ceremony, literally asleep. So you may ask yourself, how in the hell can the President of the United States run a

country when we are in such a shit show right now around the world is because here's the answer. He doesn't run the country. the biopharmaceutical, the military industrial complex, and the deep state that is behind even the Manhattan Project, all these committees and all this deep clandestine bullshit that does all these heinous things to you, to us as civilians, are who runs this country. That's why they don't need someone that actually has competency in office, because if they do have competency or if they do have a mind of their own, if they do speak out against something, they are asked will either get killed or they will get put in prison or something else. it with JFK. He's dead. He's dead because he spoke out against a lot of things that were brought to him. And, you know, not long after, actually, JFK was a young politician that was just starting to come up after the 1940s and all this stuff after the Oppenheimer era. I believe Oppenheimer even then and JFK, you know, they were kind of in those same things later on. And, you know, JFK's dead. You look at Trump. You can, you can.

You can speculate on why they're going after Trump so hard. Why do they go after anyone this pro-America anti-government, anti-government, anti-deep state government. And guys, this is it, man. I mean, this just shows even back then the Manhattan Project, as much as you might love the movie Oppenheimer, it's like they wanted to whitewash what really happened with Manhattan Project by that movie, although it still makes the government look like shit even in that. Yeah, it does. In that reference.

So, yeah, it's just a crazy scenario. I want to get into a little more. Now, you've got to think about this, right? This will definitely probably be a two-part series because there's a lot to talk about. And if we got into deeply what we're going to talk about as far as UFOs, the Majestic 12, Project Blue Book, even though not necessarily connected, but still the UFO secrecy programs that were enacted right around the same time. And then you got to remember also what also happened around the same time Manhattan Project

was going on. Well, you had Roswell. You had numerous other crashes. Also, you had Germans creating what appeared to be flying saucers. I mean, Germans were ahead of the game in aerospace far beyond. At least it appeared the United States at the time. So whereas we want to make it appear that the Germans were about to get their hands on a nuclear bomb or nuclear weapon, the reality was is that we know if we look back, the Germans were ahead of us in aerospace.

And the Germans, aka Hitler regime, you know, you would think. that the United States of America or even the Soviets would be far ahead of what the Germans would have been at this time, but they were not. There's a reason why, after the war, we went and took all their scientists, as many as we could get anyway. I think that they say we probably took about 50% of the scientists. I know the Soviets also took a large amount of scientists as well, but these scientists, these people, Operation Paperclip, you got to remember, who did the scientists? What did they come over and build? The scientists didn't come over and build nuclear bombs right away. They came over and worked in NASA. They created NASA, which is an aerospace

program. And then you got to think about all the offshoots off of NASA. Many people believe that NASA is heavily tied. Basically, if you think about Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, all these companies that develop not only nuclear, but potentially are in charge of our reverse engineering programs with our, with whatever these downcrash retrieval programs are. These, in my opinion, Raytheon, all these are offshoots of NASA. These are basically, contracted companies that the government created to avoid FOIA, to avoid accountability on behalf of the government and the people. And so when you look at all this military industrial complex, all of these companies, in my opinion, were created on behalf of the government so they could hide all their

dirty-ass secrets, just like they did with everything else. There's a reason why, in my opinion, also, that they use scientists, put them in universities, universities, and then privatized a lot of the stuff and a lot of the research they did. That's why I think they took the scientists out of the Manhattan project, put them in private institutions to where they could get away with a lot more shit than they could beforehand. Think about Falschi, for example, recently in the Falki hearings in front of Congress, where they're asking him, did you use your private emails? And he's all, I've never used private emails to best of my knowledge and any of that

shit, although there's literal screenshots of him using private emails. And there's other people saying Falschi would not be dumb enough to use a government email because he knows about FOIA, which is a freedom of information act. Falschi hates those damn freedom of information acts because it will hold him accountable with the bullshit that he's doing, experimenting. You guys got to think about this. Falschi, number one, supposedly, he was someone that came along in the AIDS pandemic. And he had these medicines that were going to just prolong your life. We're not going to cure you.

We're just going to prolong your life. There's been conspiracy theories out there. that potentially even Falschi or people around Falschi may even have created the AIDS virus. And on behalf of an experiment in Africa on unsuspecting civilians outside of the United States. Now, you might say, well, why would you do it in Africa? Well, we do know that in 1997, they did ban human experiments, quote, unquote, inside of the United States through legislation. But how much shit have they banned in the United States that they still do? Think about gain of function.

Obama supposedly banned gang of function research inside the United States, and what did Falschi do? He still did it because he has these EcoHealth Alliance companies and all these privatized companies, much like you might think of Raytheon or Lockheed or all these other companies that develop these weapons of war or reverse engineering UFO programs. These are privatized organizations or companies that can get away with it, regardless of you ban it as long as you're protected by government and bureaucracy. You're good to go. So I want everybody to understand the pattern. If you continue to do the same thing, expecting a different result is called insanity.

That's what we are in today, although you have to understand that we are dealing with probably more evil people today than we were even in the 40s. And now it's just we're to a point where we're a lot smarter. We have a lot more technology. And we're definitely probably experimenting on people a lot smarter than we used to. So you may think of vaccines. You may think of all this other shit there where we're being injected. they were being injected in the Manhattan Project with plutonium. Plotonium.

Now, we don't know what the hell is all in the things that are being injected in our kids on a daily basis and us during COVID and everything else. I'm not an anti-vaxxer or I didn't used to be, but I damn sure am now only because I would rather take my risk with some bullshit out there in nature than to take my risk with the government and trust in the government right now. But the shit that was in nature was not nature. No. It was man-made. It was. it was man-made, and that's the problem. Now, we were talking about the silver and all that, right?

And when they were trying to get all this stuff. Now, the process was monitored on the readouts by high school girls, pings and waves and other odd things that they didn't understand. The young girls had no idea what they were actually doing. They were given simple instructions. If X happens, then do Y. Now, this was about the silver that was made in Calutrons, which is flipping mental.

So how do you separate uranium 235 to 238? is chemically the same in every way. The only difference is the individual atoms of it are three neutrons of mass off. So a calutron, which is a California designed cyclotron, accelerates the metal magnetically, then deflex it with other fields. The slight difference is mass in mass,

causes the deflection to be slightly different. Now, Fat Man was the same kind as the one used at the Trinity Test Site. Now, the Fat Man is the bomb that was used in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. I can't remember which one it was. And an implosion-type bomb. Basically a 6-kilogram core of pure plutonium from the DuPont site,

with another 4,000 kilos of conventional bomb wrapped around it. The shockwave meets in the middle, cracks the plutonium sphere in a polyam-barium core to dump a bunch of initial neutrons into it while it's at double its usual density. And then watch as only 20% of it goes. fizzle. But that's still enough to say level of the entirety of Manhattan, which would kill 250,000 people outright. Now, Little Boy was a gun type nuclear bomb, meaning that instead of the fat, bulbous shape, you're familiar with, it was a long piece of artillery tubing. And there was a rod fired into a hole, like an especially aggressive sexual euphemism. Between them, 50 kilograms of 85%

enriched uranium. Remember what we were talking about earlier. about the 5% being reactor grade. Well, so you'll see, I'll notice that only, they only tested the implosion-type bomb. Little boy, the uranium gun type, wasn't even tested before the big show. It was just dropped out of the freaking plane regardless. They didn't even test what it was going to do,

how it would react or any of the other. Because the scientists were absolutely confident that the gun type would work, Fat Man was also Plan B. The unlikely one, a plutonium bomb with an implosion mechanism was problematic. Now, the gun-type in rich uranium, though, the harder part of that one was ensuring it didn't work until the exact

right moment. That one was the scary part. They were making sure that when they actually enacted this bomb, that it wouldn't blow up while it was trying to come out. And so when it was shot out, they were hoping that it wouldn't actually detonate right then and there. But they didn't give a ship because it's just pilots or whatever. So, I mean, who cares about those guys? They had the Scrap The Thin Man Project, which would have been the gun type plutonium. bomb because they could not develop a firing mechanism fast enough. Now, the plutonium would have reacted too soon and gone off to in, gone off to incompletely, because by the time the fission reaction starts really kicking around, an

artillery shell in a vacuum chamber might as well be frozen in place. Now, that's how this whole entire mental project was. Another fun fact in this is the era of the Japanese balloon bombs. Now, Japan had a good strong air current between it and the U.S. So a common school project was to make balloon bombs, paper balloons holding about 20 kilograms of explosives, simple timers and gauges on them would drop the payload when ideally they were over the United States. It was an imprecise guesswork, but the Japanese launched 9,000 of them expecting about 10% of that to ever make it to land. And that's about what happened. Actually, the Japanese scientist did pretty good at calculating what they were probably going to do.

But only about 300 were found. And of those 300 balloons that landed anywhere in all of the U.S., one of those set fire to a garage in Detroit. So, and of all these 9,000, one of them set fire to a garage. One actually hit site Y at a pretty critical moment, and that's kind of interesting. The silk wires draped across the power lines leading from the dam, shorten out the cooling system for the plutonium reactor while it was in progress. And fortunately, DuPont did his due diligence. having made backups. The power was only out a fifth of a second.

So it was one of my, it's one of the favorite war stories or just sheer unimaginable coincidence. And so literally, this thing actually shorted out in site Y, where they actually had nuclear bombs and actually made it to the site

from the Japanese. And that was one of the weird stories. So they delivered the plutonium to the Trinity site where they made and armed the first atomic bomb, which was gadget. And men had been told

that the scientists thought there was a small chance of the bomb to set off a chain reaction that would ignite the nitrogen and oxygen in the atmosphere killing all of life on earth. As the bomb was primed, they set in the site chapel crying. Another physicist, a young Richard Phenom

set in a Jeep near the testing site, refusing the smoke glass lenses of his colleagues who were also slathering on sunscreen as they as thickly as they could afford. He figured that all he really needed for safety was the polarized lens in his windscreen. As

such, he's the only man to have ever looked directly into a nuclear blast and see it in full color and still have his sight. Wow. And by the way, they highlighted that in the movie. Yeah, they did. And I mean, I didn't really know what they were doing, but that makes sense now. Yeah, now, so the original test day had been postponed. The original zero hour was filled with storms, rain filled the desert, it made photographs

and filming the blast impossible for any distance that would make the cameras safe to recover. And everyone flinched every time in lightning struck the still dummy box. bomb casing. It almost certainly wouldn't have detonate the real one, but it would have been an awful way to find out. The bomb went off at 529 a.m. July 26th, the desert lit up like God's on flashlight. And the reality of this is, yes, they did have severe storms all night. So we said, we're not going to go to sleep until we are able to do this. We think the weather's going to pass. They had a meteorologist there. Meteorologist said, look, we think this will probably pass between 3 and 4 a.m.

So they all decided to stay up instead of postponing it another day. You got to remember, guys, during this time, it was a crunch on time. They had to try to figure out this out. The government said, you have to show us the results of your test by this date. And so they were, you know, that was the date. That was the date. And they had to do it. And the reality is, yes, there was a lot of those guys that were scared shitless because

lightning was hitting this tower. And for those that have not seen the movie or know what we're talking about, there was a basically massive still tower that probably stood about 75 to 100 foot tall. It had the bomb in the top of it. And then once the bomb was set loose and ignited, or sorry, ignition, I guess you could say, the ignition point was accelerated. The bomb drops, it goes off. They were miles away when they witnessed this.

But you have to understand that when this actual bomb goes off, it was literally like the sun on earth. It was so bright that it would have blinded most people, although this guy did not get blind. I think they said that he was blind for a short time after, but his sight came back. So imagine looking into the sun times 10. And a lot of the guys were on the ground looking or laying in the opposite direction of the bomb.

And they said, when you see the sun on the dirt pile behind you, you're probably able to turn around around that time. They did. But the bomb was, it went off at 529. and there are pictures of it actually. There are pictures that you guys can find about the Manhattan Project bomb pictures. Just look it up. There was pressure gauges to get an accurate measure of the size of the blast.

But the first best guess comes from Fermi himself, watching the blast with a loose stack of notes. You see, there's this thing called a Fermi estimate, name for the scientist, where you just sort of figure something out, the best information available shorthand it. So to work at how many new cars are sold in the U.S. each year, you sort of guess, well, maybe a third owned cars because that includes kids and people in cities and households with a shared car.

Then you think, how many people bought a new car in the past five years? Most people buy used cars, so maybe a quarter or so bought new in that time, which would make that about 1 and 20 bought a new car that time of year. So 300 million divided by 3, divided by 20 equals 5 million, and the actual number upon Googling is about 6 million pretty close. Fermi did that with this gadget, the bomb that they dropped for the trinity test. He dropped a stack of papers in his hand, watched him get caught in the shockwave, and made his guess based on that. Guess the equivalent of 10 kilotons of TNT.

So that's literally how he made his equivalent to what the nuclear bomb actually would have been in actual TNT, which is your average everyday explosive. Average every day, but you know what I'm saying. So the actual blast was 20 kilotons. or I guess as ever a physicist reading thinks close enough. It seriously is extremely close and a testament of just how insanely brilliant Fermi was and to his curiosity. Roosevelt, the man who Einstein had written and put his faith so completely into the hands of the scientists did not live to see the Trinity test.

He died just three months earlier on April 12, 1945, the month before Germany surrendered. Now the plutonium fireball fused the desert sand into a beautiful glass crystal with the immense heat and pressure a substance now called Trinonite. And this is, I mean, it literally made the sand glass. Now, I know if you guys ever watched a movie,

you already know where I'm going on with this. Yes, Swing home, Alabama. Sweet home Alabama. And so when lightning hits sand, and if you put a, you know, a metal rod in it, and it actually hits that rod, whatever that lightning rod, or the lightning strike goes into the rod

and into the sand, whatever the end result of that is, it will basically glassify it, very much similar to what happened with the bomb. That's how you can kind of put that in perspective. So the new president Truman issued a statement to Japan. Unconditional surrender of the Japanese armed forces, not the emperor, notably, which will not result in the enslavement of the Japanese as a race or destroyed as a nation. And here, one of the most famous lines ever pinned to paper.

And he says, or face prompt and utter destruction. That's what Truman said. Now, chilling words, none outside the Manhattan Project itself at the time knew what he meant. Now, Samuel Jay Walker identifies five key reasons for the use of the bombs on Japan, which I find pretty interesting. Number one, the commitment to ending the war successfully at the earliest possible moment. Number two, the need to justify the effort and expense of building the atomic bomb. Number three, the hope of achieving diplomatic gains and the growing rivalry between the Soviet Union. Or for the lack of incentives not to.

use atomic weapons, and five, hatreds of Japanese and the desire for vengeance. These are all five possible reasons why we actually dropped these bombs. It was sure to shorten the war by at least a year and save thousands, if not millions of lives of raw, but it cannot be understood or understated just how much of a lot of people involved were itching to use this thing now that they had made it. Further, it almost wasn't enough. It only took, sorry, it took two bombs to get the Japanese emperor to sign the surrender, and even then his generals almost went into open revolt,

planning assassination attempts to prolong the war further. I mean, this is, you know, after two bombs, hundreds of thousands killed. They were still about to just say, you know what, we're going to kill this dude if he wants to stop this war. We're willing for all of our people to go down. Now, for those that don't know Japanese, you got to remember you got to remember Kamikaze pilots. You got to remember their solitude to their nation,

how brave and how committed and devoted they were to Japan. You know, there's one thing you can never say about the Japanese during war is that they were pussies because they were not. Yeah, they will sacrifice their own lives for their country. 100%. Just by blowing themselves up. Yeah. And so obviously you can tell if these generals were above all these military guys,

which were willing to kill themselves and be kamikaze pilots and soldiers and whatever. I mean, there were many instances through war to where, they were either without weapons or they got caught without weapons and soldiers would hold them at gunpoint. And instead, they would literally take a grenade out and blow it up right in their face. They would rather be killed themselves, killed themselves than have the opposition killed them. That was always something to always say. But most of the rest, I'm sure you know, the bombs were loaded into specialized silver plate bombers, designed to house and drop the gigantic bombs and the fly the extended distance,

in one trip. There were three planes with no fighter escorts. One was filled with recording equipment and civilian observers. The bomb was armed during the flight so as not to risk exploding during takeoff. The planes would have to fly hard and fly fast to outrun the shockwave and the EMP that would frasel their equipment. A fun side note here, though, is history is so small addendum. Zepo Marx, as in of the Marx Brothers, Grucho Marx Brothers, the one designed and built the housing for Fat, that would secure it in place and drop it

called a Marman clamp. He also invented the machine you see in hospitals that flat lines when your heart stops. So at the same time, Hedy Lamar was making signal hopping technology for torpedoes. That would end up being the mathematical basis for motor, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth,

and the designs she made for Howard Hughes before the war had influenced the design of every, at the time, modern fighter jet today. So, and here's the thing. It's like the amount of technology explosion and wartime weapons that came out of the 40s, right? And also, you got to think about the same time frame around the same time frame, Roswell happened, right? Roswell was going on. We had a ton of potential UFO sightings or crash sites.

We had Germany that was creating flying saucers it appeared. You had foo fighters. For those that don't know the foo fighter story during World War II, were German pilots, I believe. Was it German or U.S. pilots? I'm not sure. Oh, my God. It was both of them that saw them. I think it was.

And the foo fighters were basically UFOs. And they could not identify them. Yeah. But I also think that these UFOs, they said they were more prominent during these times in the 1940s during the war. that people saw them more and they talked about them more. And like you said, that was when the Roswell incident was. And I almost feel like maybe this was a time that aliens were coming to Earth, our planet, or they're, you know, if they're from here, they were trying to give us a warning sign to stop this nonsense with this war

and using atomic bombs and hydrogen bombs. And, you know, I think maybe they were trying to stop the wars. Yeah, absolutely. Because, you know, a lot of people say that they think if there are aliens here, they made us to mine uranium in gold. Yeah, or whatever. Who knows? Yeah. Or our own, you know, metals or precious metals or whatever you want to call it, our own resources.

Because they need those resources. Yeah. Now, to finish us up on this episode, the Anola Gate took off on the 6th of August, 1945, Carrying Little Boy. The weather was clear. Hiroshima lay in the center of the flat planes. The 13 kilotum bomb dropped cleanly, 66,000 dead, 69,000 injured. And what was left standing was a charred fireball, like the pits of Garena. Boxstar, the plane carrying fat man, made three passes over his primary target. The city of Kakura, 50 minutes it flew overhead, but the city was obscured by smoke for nearly,

or sorry, sorry, from nearby Yajata, which had been firebomb to hell, the day before. Fifty minutes, Box Star, tried to make a clean line, but the anti-aircraft fire was getting closer, and Japanese fighters were being alerted by radio. They switched to their second target, which was Nagasaki. There was a break in the cloud cover, but it wasn't on target, failing two miles off its intended target point. Even though the bomb was five kiloton stronger than Little Boy, it did less damage as a result, killing only 40,000 people outright. With it, though, they had destroyed the manufacturing center and had produced the torpedoes that were used on Pearl Harbor. What follows is a strange transition.

You see, steampunk is based on the optimism of the industrial area before it gave way to the cynicism of the modernism movement after World War I. The realization that all of this technology had industrialized murder, the horrors of chemistry were plain to see for anyone who witnessed the psalm. After the bombs dropped on Japan, the world saw the true horrors modern science could wreak. and we see the rise of atomic punk movement. The Jetsons, for instance, we had such high hope that nobody could ever, would ever use it for evil ends or would surely destroy us all.

And as we went into the Cold War, science fiction became filled with hope and optimism again, because if we can make it through this, that concerns, or sorry, the concerns of the small and petty wood world, we now have the power to take to the stars. we have such a limitless, clean, and brilliant energy source. The belief that, with the unlocking of the power of the universe itself, all that came before would seem like the Dark Ages. Human kind is pretty bizarre. And what we will say is even Elon Musk right now with Starship and all these others, saying

that if we want to get to Mars, we want to actually travel through space, we need to use nuclear. Nuclear is the power source. Unfortunately, we had nuclear. we could have been developing it as a useful power source to where if most people don't understand or realize, but the fact that you pay your light bills and you do this and you do all that, we don't need that type of energy. We have energy such as nuclear, which they, I guess, in a lot of ways, use in our power

or in some of our power, right? But the reality is that the power of nuclear is immense. We could travel through solar systems with nuclear power. That doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to be able to go light speed, but we just would have the ability to have reactors on board spacecraft where we don't need, we wouldn't necessarily need fuel anymore. And so this all gets us into the tell, though.

We talk about the plutonium. We talk about radiation. We talk about all this stuff. Now, what also reminds you of radiation? What also reminds you of things that happened during this time and things we've heard about even recently? Exposure to radiation. What does that link to?

UAPs. UAPs, UFOs. Because they supposedly use our gravity field and what's around them is the radiation. Yeah, where it creates radiation. It creates the radiation around them. Yeah, and maybe even the way they power, right, whatever the radiation nuclear slash type of power is, did we actually get nuclear weapons or the actual subatomic codes and all this stuff from our, I don't know. some people may say our past selves, our future selves, some interdimensional being, some off-world being, we don't know.

But let me tell you guys something. It is an hour and 15 in this episode. We're going to have a part two on this for sure. What I will say, though, is that there is a very, very distinct connection between Oppenheimer, UFOs, the Majestic 12, many others. And we have to put in their Operation Paperclip. Because I think I really dug really hard today. it was deep.

And I never thought that the Manhattan Project would be related to Operation Paperclip. But it is. Yeah, no, absolutely. There's so many things that potentially link back the Manhattan Project to UFOs and UAPs, crash retrieval programs, reverse engineering. And there's so much to be said about that. But we're going to get into that on the next episode, guys. We could do that here.

but we feel like it'd probably be better to break this up in two parts without having to break it up and then you guys be in whatever. But yeah, Cherry, it's kind of interesting because like I said, if most people watch Oppenheimer and they see only one side of the story, there is definitely a much bigger side of the story. And although you probably found out more about this story tonight than maybe if you've watched Oppenheimer and you think you know the whole story of Manhattan Project, you probably realize that you don't necessarily know all the

lies have been told about Manhattan Project specifically. Why did they go after Oppenheimer? Who was Oppenheimer? Really? Who was he connected with? All these various things. And by the way, one of those things, I think that people can just connect it with what's going on today.

Like, they feel like we're being freaking experimented on today. For sure. And that was what I was going to say, too, about the movie about Oppenheimer. I really dug into the religious aspect and the political aspects of what was going on in the 1940s. And I think that had a lot to do with what was going on. So I want to for sure be able to discuss that tomorrow. Yeah, for sure.

Our next episode will probably be out Sunday night. I think tonight's Friday. It is about 545. On a Friday night, we're actually going to try to end the little early, even though I got up and coughing my freaking brains out since last Tuesday. So it's been over seven days now. It's Friday. So it's been, yeah, I mean, it's been kind of a.

pain my ass. I'm probably been experimented on with bird flu. They probably injected me. And guys also, we got to get into the bird flu thing. They're really trying to prop up this pandemic thing going on. By the way, we will have our first YouTube video released next week, which we're very excited about. We got a great guest on. We want to announce right now what our YouTube channel is going to be, or maybe should we? I don't know. Well, we're not 100% sure. Yeah, I know. because we're going back and forth between two names, which we're not going to say. We were thinking about Investigate Earth, Inc.

on YouTube, but the problem is it's like, we don't want YouTube to connect our podcast with our YouTube because they could shadow ban us from the very beginning. So Sherry and I have thought about this other name where we may actually do it on that name. It's not investigate Earth, even though technically it would kind of be under Investigate Earth. But yeah, we're going to do a lot of cool things over there, guys.

first episode is going to be what I will tell you is is a is I think we've said this before it's going to be with a big foot expert we're going to be able to show some videos show some really cool stuff he sent us really do a deep dive in this hopefully it's a pretty long stream it's going to be a live stream I guess or not live stream but it'll be um you know like a podcast type thing right an hour and a half two hours um and then what we're also trying to plan is a big foot hunt I think that'd be cool but we also want to talk about stuff we want to have fun over on YouTube we want to be funny we want to be ourselves um We don't want to be so serious all the time about all the serious stuff because it is pretty

serious shit we talk about here. It is. And it's hard for me to even read these hard words sometimes. I want to just be myself. And I think it's going to be so much fun on YouTube. I mean, I do love our podcast. And I have learned so much in seven years by having this podcast that I never would have known about. I would have been one of these sleeping people.

But I wouldn't be woke. I'd be awake. Yeah. I learn it. No, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, sherry will be able to really highlight her her expertise at fun. Sherry's fun man. Like when we used to do our live stream, people loved her a lot more. I mean, hell, there's probably people love her a lot more here than I do me too. But but people love Sherry a lot more because it was just funny because Sherry was always funny.

She was always like the one that was hyped up and doing all this stuff. So I can't wait to like when we get in the woods with Sherry. Oh my gosh. She's going to be fun. Yeah, it's going to be hilarious. I'm so excited for this whole channel. But by the way, guys, where we're actually going to go look for big foot. This is our plan. Just to kind of to give you an idea. Where we're going to look for Bigfoot is a place that I have talked about on this podcast before, but it also has had a bigfoot sighting. It is a place up in Pisgah National Forest up in the western North Carolina Mountains. The interesting thing about this area is that I witnessed a Satan worship ritual in this place at night one time. They all had black robes on.

They were all worshiping Satan for sure. Very, very weird night. But that was also the same time where there were bats flying everywhere. It was nuts. It was just one of those creepy, creepy-ass nights where it's like, get me the hell out of here. Like, this is just getting weird. And it wasn't then, but it was actually, yeah. So the day we were walking in there, this is what I'm saying. Like we may or may not find Bigfoot in this experience, but what I can almost guarantee

we're going to find is a giant bear because there are bears everywhere around here. They actually require you to do certain things when you go in this area to specifically shield against bears, you have to have a bear container for your food. Like you will get fined out the ass. If you do not, it has to be in a tree. You have to do all these various things. And if a game warden or whoever comes by and you don't have these things, you're going to get fined like federal fines because of how many bears are in this area.

And I remember walking into this area, came around a corner. And it was the, I mean, it was the biggest freaking bear I've ever seen in my life. It was just laying up on a berm right outside of trail. And I looked at it. and it looked at me and we were, I was deciding, they always say, don't run from bears.

No. I ran, bro. I ran fast. Did it chase you? No. But I heard as soon as I, as soon as I threw my backpack down and ran, as soon as I did that shit,

I heard it. I just didn't know if it was coming at me or away from me. Did it go to your backpack? No, it went away. Oh, it went the opposite direction. That would have been funny if it went to your backpack and got like a candy bar out or something.

No, there's a whole other story in a, about that too, which we'll tell on another episode. But guys, that's going to do it for this episode. We are going to play us out with Mike Odefield Nuclear. If you guys have not heard this song, I think is very fitting for this episode. I want you guys to hear it out. It's very interested, too, because it tells you the real true story about nuclear war.

So, guys, until next time, part two. Make sure you come back for part two. We're going to talk about the UFO connection with Oppenheimer and the Manhattan Project and how it is very closely related. And other conspiracy theories. Absolutely. And a little bit about the history of the politics. For sure.

For sure. All right, guys. Until next time, have a great weekend. We love you. Peace out. Peace out, guys. And the embers of death whispered.

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