Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Theo Von Dave Smith Breakdown | Venezuela, Israel, & Trump

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Tonight we break down the most talked-about moments from the recent Theo Von podcast episode featuring Dave Smith, where the conversation went straight into territory most media avoids. We analyze the claims and theories surrounding the alleged U.S. raid on Venezuela, what it would actually mean if elements of that operation are real, and why Venezuela keeps surfacing in discussions about regime change, oil, and U.S. foreign policy. We also unpack the broader implications of U.S.–Israel policy, including how American leadership navigates alliance, restraint, and power projection in the Middle East. Finally, we zoom out and look at Donald Trump’s first year as president through the lens of foreign policy, military posture, and executive authority, separating media narratives from actions that reshaped America’s role on the world stage. This episode is not about headlines, it’s about context, motive, and consequences. If you want a grounded breakdown of what’s being said, what’s being implied, and what most outlets won’t connect, this is the conversation you don’t want to miss.My New Song Smell Of Your PerfumeOur Merch Store

You left your shoes by the doorway like you're coming back tonight. I folded of the shirt you borrowed didn't know how to hold it tight. The room feels bigger than it should now. Every sound just fades too soon. I keep reaching for your shadow like I'm waiting on you. Hello and welcome to Investigator Earth Podcast. I'm your host shadow alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're going to break down.

and talk about the recent Theo Vaughn and Dave Smith podcast interview because there are a couple of things that they talk about on that episode that we've already talked about number one and another subject that we are likely going to have its own specific episode four here very, very soon. I don't actually have an intro for tonight, so we're just going to wing it. Usually we do intros tonight. We're not doing it. Welcome to the show, guys.

It is January the 6th, 2026. And the name of this song, by the way, is smell of your perfume by me, see-free, and I want you guys to go and check out my brand new single that is on Spotify right now and it is called Smell of Your Perfume and the artist is C-free. I will actually post the link to the song in the episode description down below. If you guys want to go share it, play it on whatever social media accounts you have, you can put it on your Instagram, you can put it on Facebook, you can put it on all that stuff.

But we've worked on that for a couple, two or three weeks. Sherry and I basically co-wrote the song together and it's been like, 13 years since I've been in music. That's actually how you and I started. Yeah, but just listen to that voice, how great it is. Like, it's so crazy. I have to listen to the song every day. His mom listens to it like a dozen times a day.

This is one of the best songs I think that Chad is ever, ever recorded. Yeah. And I have to say that I kind of pick the highs and the lows. I'm like, women are going to love that, Chad. You got to have a little bit of high in your voice because that's what turns us on. Oh, gosh. And I just love the highs. this song. It's amazing. I'm so proud of you. Yeah, we've done it, you know, it's like I said,

it's been 13 years since I've been in music and it's like, you know what? I'm like in my 40s now. It's kind of time to get back into it a little bit. So I want to be doing music going forward for sure. And like Sherry, you're writing a book right now, which hopefully is going to be released this month. So you've been working your butt off for that. So yeah, we're just trying to do things we're very passionate about right now. And music is my passion. I know that Sherry's passion is true crime and that kind of side of it. But, you know, all of the work that you guys have done on that book is just incredible. And I'm very proud of you guys. I can't wait for people to read it. I've been hearing most of it. I've not read it myself, but I've heard most of it.

Yeah, but just like yesterday, guys, I spent 12 hours just trying to format this book because you have to have it in Chicago style format. Yeah. And everything's got to be perfect. Your lines have to be crossed the right way. You have to have the right space in the right returns. Oh, my gosh. It is a headache. I understand why people. people hire editors to do this. Oh, for sure. It's a lot of work. Yeah, absolutely.

So yeah. I want to just say to, Chad, I am really proud of you with this song. I really love it. Well, thank you very much. Yeah, it's, you know, music is a lot of work, you know, and that's the thing. It's like back in a day, it didn't work out for us, unfortunately, because, you know, we lost more money and we ever made on music, although it's not why I was in music. I loved music.

And, but, you know, when you're kind of in 13 years ago, we were not necessarily in the same position we are now. And so we have a little more time. time to do things for ourselves and follow our passions and what we want to do. And so that's what we're trying to do. So guys, if you would go and check out my song, Smelt of Your Perfume by Sea Free on Spotify. You can also find it on YouTube. But if you want to, oh, and you can find it on iTunes as well.

I think the song has a lot of potential. I think it will connect with a lot of people. And it connects with people in a lot of different ways. You know, the song is actually about just like missing someone or losing somebody or whatever. And the smell, I'm sure you've had like you were missing someone at some point. Like somebody's scent. And you smelled them.

and it just brings them right back in the room with you no matter where you're at. And that's kind of what the song is all about. And I think our next song, which we're working on now, is going to be talking about Sherry and I's relationship, kind of the through the storm viewpoint on it because I think a lot of people go through all kinds of craziness in relationships. And Sherry and I definitely have. We've been no strangers to that for 15 years. We've gone from having cars repoed at 10 o'clock at night to all kinds of crazy stuff.

Yeah, it's been pretty nuts. We've been through a little bit of everything in the course of our relationship. And so we're working on a song that hopefully more people relate to that because it's going to have a good message though, right? It's just like us through the storm getting through it and coming out on the other side because there's so many people. It just seems like that just give up on relationships nowadays way too soon. Or, you know, it's like the least little thing happens. And they're like, nah, screw you. I'm done with you.

And it's just like, and I've told my friends, you know, friends that are newly single or whatever. and I was like, man, I would hate to date in this world in 2025 today, like trying to find a girl that's not this or that or, you know, I don't know. I'm not even going to go there. I'm just going to shut up. What you're saying is you're very happy with me. No, I am. Absolutely. I am a very demanding wife.

No, whatever. No, I am so glad that we are together because anybody else, you know, I just, I don't know. It probably wouldn't work. So there's a reason. There's a reason that we are together. So guys, what I was talking about is Theo Vaughn and Dave Smith. Now, they had a podcast episode that was released today. We're obviously not going to break down the whole episode because it is three hours.

And a three hour episode will be here for four and a half, five hours if we try to break down the whole episode. I did want to get to a couple of things. Obviously, Dave Smith is a comedian, as they call him, but extremely, extremely knowledgeable guy. I've always respected Dave's opinions. I've not necessarily always agreed with everything that Dave has talked about. but I have always respected Dave and you know especially even on the Israel stuff and he does talk about Israel a little bit in the war with Theo Vaughan and this the Yovon obviously is a comedian as well like a good comedian I'm sorry Dave I'm just saying but the Yovon's really funny but it's just

like over the past year Theo has been getting more and more and more a little bit into the politics realm and especially about Israel like he's not afraid to call out Israel he's not afraid to call lot like how he sees things and you know especially he's brought on tucker carlson a couple times now and i think tucker and him have just meshed so well together and to be honest you know sherry and i used to watch theo a lot and it was just like theo is kind of out there sometimes i mean he'll just say some of the craziest stuff you can freaking imagine and you're like what does he even know what he's talking about at all right now like is he does he have any clue but it was like when he did the tucker carlson interview it was like he really came out as like a

well thought out person from a standpoint of something that he really cares about, which was the Israel situation. And so it was kind of refreshing to be able to hear him talk about something that he had been researching. He was passionate about. And he hung right with Tucker the entire time. So having Dave on, which is a very intellectual, very smart person, Dave's also Jewish. So it's always been interesting because they've always tried to, now they're trying to call Dave

like anti-Semitic. He's like, I'm Jewish, you dumb ass. Like, how are you going to call me anti-Semitic? Like, I'm Jewish. I'm anti-Semitic against myself. Yeah. I mean, so we're going to get into the interview right now. This is the Dave Smith interview with the Yvonne.

We're going to break in and out because they first talk about Venezuela, which we just did a podcast episode on our last episode about the Venezuela situation. If you guys have not heard it, go check it out. We'll start there. And then it will eventually get into the Israel situation. And I have some stuff to say. obviously on that. And here we go.

Like really quickly. And they snuck in a regime change war in between when you said it's 48 hours we planned this. And they fit a whole regime change in that 48 hours. Well, it's good to know that they're making them faster. Here we are. And it's happened, man. The crazy they had that the photo came out of Maduro and his wife. I guess they picked him up.

Well, the U.S. plans to run Venezuela and tap its old reserves, Trump says, after operation to oust Maduro. What were the actual hours after an audacious military operation that plucked leader Nicholas Maduro from power and removed him from the country? President Donald Trump said Saturday the United States would run Venezuela at least temporarily and tap its vast oil reserves to sell to other nations. At least they're being honest about that part. Yeah, it makes you wonder kind of what's going on. What were the exact attacks that happened? Does it say?

Like, did we go kill a bunch of people? Yeah, we definitely killed some people. There were a bunch of attacks, and then there was like an elite team that went and got, that was able to kidnap Maduro. And I know, so Mike Lee, the senator, posted on Twitter that he had spoke to Marco Rubio and that Marco Rubio had said something like, the other attacks were like in service of the mission to get Maduro. So like, I don't know what the, you know, taking out their defenses or something like that. But so, I mean, I don't know even where to start here, right? But so there's a lot, there's been, obviously for months now, there's been like they've been attacking, they've been bombing the boats that they're claiming our drug boats, but they haven't really

demonstrated that they are. It's kind of just taking their word for it. Right. And we don't know. You just see this video. You see this footage of like a black and white and then like a zooming in of a night goggles this explosion. And there was that whole controversial double tap.

strike where they came back to kill the survivors, which there was a big controversy about, you know, because that's illegal under international law. You'd have to demonstrate that they were like still in the fight. And then there was, you know, I guess Pete Hengseth had said someone else made the decision, but then they claimed that they were still trying to get in the fight. It's all kind of sketchy. It's not exactly clear. Marco Rubio, who's the Secretary of State and also the National Security Advisor, and he's had that position for most of the last year. This has been his pet project for a while. He's really wanted to get rid of the Maduro regime in Venezuela.

The drugs thing has always just been an obvious bullshit pretext. I mean, like, there's no... That's what it feels like to make. Well, if you just look at the numbers, Venezuela is responsible for like a tiny fraction of the drugs that come into America and like almost none of the fentanyl. And if you really had a problem, you know, when people look at like the OD deaths,

the fentanyl is really where the action is there. And that's all from Mexico, from parts made in China. Then even when like Donald Trump or... Vivek Ramoswamy or some of these guys would have real tough language about the drug cartels on the campaign trail. It was always the Mexican drug cartels. They were always saying that because they could at least point to that and say, look, that leads to fentanyl, which leads to all these overdoses. Now, those numbers have been going down and getting better. But I think some people, people I love, but some people have falsely attributed that to the attacks on these boats.

South Dakota Venezuela, when really all that is is that there's a secure border now. And so less of the stuff is getting in than was under Joe Biden. Oh, for sure. And we talked about that on the last episode is, you know, the fentanyl that's obviously not coming across our border right now is because we do have one of the most secure borders we've had in a very long time. As much as I've criticized Trump, you know, Trump has done an incredible job on the border. But it's not that hard to close your border. You just have to do what your actual border is supposed to do. you have to have your border patrol agents do their job you can't take them away from their job and say don't you dare um you know keep people out of our country that's exactly what biden did

right you can't tie their hands behind their back no and and you know even any of the border patrol agents or ice agents or or customs any of those guys like during the Biden administration none of them were allowed to ever speak to the media and that was another thing i know fox news continually try to talk to different Border Patrol agents and say, hey, why are you guys not doing your job? Like, how is there this many people coming across our border? And anytime they would ask them, they're like, we're not allowed to talk to media. Now, under the Trump administration, you know, at Fox News can go there. I mean, hell, Border Patrol and Customs go on Fox News now and literally do interviews and these are active agents. So there's a huge difference in the rhetoric from this administration to last. And as Dave says, absolutely, Trump and them campaigned

We're going to go after the drug cartels in Mexico. That's what they campaigned on. And we're going to make sure that we stopped this fentanyl from coming in. Now, they did that primarily through the border, but they're not necessarily going after the drug cartels in Mexico. But they do want to attribute the fentanyl coming down to Venezuela because it just makes sense for the whole picture of like, hey, this is why we went into Venezuela. And now it's not even like that.

Now that we're in, now that we've already went in, we've took Maduro. We're basically in control of their oil. now when Trump's on camera he's just like, yeah, we took their oil, you know, what are you going to do? I don't know. No, no drugs, no drugs, all lie. You know, that's kind of the way it is now.

He just doesn't give a shit. And he's like, and by the way, I think we need to take Greenland. Oh, man. Okay, I'm not doing a good job with Trump at all. I think we need to take Greenland. And then we're going to go to Columbia. Oh, my gosh. It reminds me of a video we watched today.

It was a video of Trump. Six-nine. It was six nine. I took that shit. I took that shit. It was hilarious. Oh my God. I was dying,

laughing. It was pretty funny. Yeah, they have a video. They've dubbed Trump in his AI and he's like sitting there and looking like he's talking like six nine, the rapper. And, you know, six nine is saying something like, yeah, I just went and I took that shit, you know? And this is Trump saying this. And he's talking obviously about Venezuela, you know, in this.

But it was hilarious. Anyway, so let's get back. But so. So then. cut to, what was it, last week, it got... Well, I want to bring this up real great. Sure, sure, go ahead. Venezuela is involved in trafficking cocaine, but current data shows it is responsible for

only a small share of the drugs that actually end up in the U.S. market, especially compared with threats through Mexico and Central America. U.S. government classified Venezuela as a major drug transit country, mainly for Colombia cocaine moving towards the Caribbean, Central America. But even that would be more of a justification to deal with Colombia than it would be 100%. A D.A fact sheet cited in 2020. 25 reporting says 90% of cocaine reaching the U.S. is produced in Colombia and enters through

Mexico without even mentioning Venezuela as a primary corridor. Yeah, and there's some other reasons I want to go into to why people think that we're what we're doing down there. But yeah, I just wanted to get some of the stats. Sure, sure. And I want to also say that Venezuela would not be a primary corridor for Colombian drugs because that would be the dumbest way to take drugs from the South America to the United States because then you have to load them on boats.

You've got to do all kinds of shit. Otherwise, you as a Colombian drug trafficker, all you got to do is just go northwest in South America, go right up through Mexico. You use the cartels to help you because most of the time they're all connected anyway. The cartels pay a certain amount for the drugs. Then once it gets in the cartel's hands, cartel then brings it over to the United States. That's typically how that drug trafficking supply chain goes. You know, it's not that Columbia is selling it directly to Americans, is that Columbia is selling it directly to the cartels of Mexico.

The cartels of Mexico then bring that to the United States. And so, you know, the cartels are still getting in. They still have ways, even though the border is secure, you know, they're now just taking boats off the west coast, you know, because Trump's not blowing up boats off the west coast as of right now. But they're just taking boats off the west coast of Mexico and going into California still because Governor Gavin Newsom is basically just like, yes, come one, come all, come right through California.

So that's what's still happening. It's not any. I mean, it's not changed any. I just saw a video the other day of boats showing up on California coast. And so it's like if you want to start like blowing up people or boats, you know, and you really care about drugs getting into America, you might want to start looking off the coast of Mexico going to California where Gavin Newsom is inviting them open arms.

But yeah, so there's no real world scenario to where Columbia just hands off drugs to Venezuela. and then Venezuela has to somehow figure out how to get them into the United States because that's a pain of the ass and especially now. So there's probably even going to be most all their drugs going through Mexico. Well, I have news for you. President Trump said that Colombia better watch their ass too. Oh, God.

And Cuba. Well, I mean, look, you know, and that's, you know, it's like, and I actually want to play this clip in just a minute, Andrew Tate talking about Venezuela situation. And then he also talks about Colombia and all that stuff. We'll play it in a moment. But, yeah, Trump's talking about, you know, going down to Columbia taking that shit over to, you know, going into, where else he's say? Oh, Cuba. Yeah. I'm going to take Cuba to Greenlands next.

Oh, my God. These people are going to be so annoyed with me laughing. But anyways. So, yeah, so that's what Trump's doing, though. Trump's wants to kind of take over as much property and land as he can, it seems like. A lot of people thought the Greenland thing was a joke. Sounds like it's not a joke because now he's saying like we'll use military force and we have to um trump's saying the reason for that is because greenland has all these russian ships outside of greenland they have chinese ships outside of greenland it is a very strategic landmass uh i guess between china and russia now is that true or not i don't know i mean i literally have no idea i don't necessarily know why you would have chinese and russian ships just hanging out in greenland but we also i mean we

for sure know that Russian ships are, you know, out in the Pacific and international waters. We know that they fly. Well, they're even in Florida, too. Yeah, well, off the coast of Florida way out there. But we also know they fly strategic bomber training missions like off the coast of Alaska where we have to usually intercept them quite often. I know that Russia actually just recently did that. I think it was on Christmas Eve night.

And it pissed off a lot of the pilots, apparently, because it was Christmas Eve night. They were chilling. They were trying to have a nice Christmas Eve. And, of course, what does Russia do? They send their bombers and fighters, like close to the border, close to our airspace in Alaska. And so they had to scramble this entire unit on Christmas Eve just to go up there and deal with this shit. And they did the same thing on Christmas Day. They did it on New Year's Eve.

They just keep screwing with. Putin's doing that on purpose. Oh, for sure. But I want to know why Trump isn't saying, I'm coming after you, the drug cartel in the Mexico area. Mexico, Mexico area. That Mexico cartel. I don't know. I mean, look, you know, the Mexico thing is.

is strange. And, you know, I have my theories. I don't know for sure. I know that Trump said that he had talked with the president of Mexico. She said, no, no, no, don't do that, Mr. President. We cannot have that. But yet then, you know, the Mexico president's kind of talking shit to Trump lately. You know, but-

Which has to have a really sticky situation because the president of Mexico is pro-Israel. And obviously, we're pro-Israel. Well, she's heavily funded by Israel. Yeah. And we are pro-Israel, but we have a pro-Israel. but we have something against Mexico and that's them bringing all the drugs into our country and them allowing the drug cartels to do that. Well, you know, I'm not sure if like Israel has anything to do with the fact that we're

not going into Mexico or not. I have no idea. Like we talked about on the last episode, I mean, could Israel have anything to do with us going into Venezuela? We don't know. I mean, there are so many people speculating that because everybody's speculating that about everything now. But kind of what our conclusion was on the last episode is it's just really hard to tell

what the actual reason of why we're in Venezuela. I mean, yes, they are the biggest oil producer in the world. Yes, they have a ton of oil. But what was the real reason of taking out Maduro? Keeping him alive. Yeah, but then you have Machado. The information. Machado's not the act in president right now.

Actually, it is Maduro's vice president that is still in power in an office. I just saw that they issued a state of emergency today, Venezuela. And they have told all police officers, this was as of an hour ago, all police officers and military to go and find anyone that cooperated with the United States in helping them get Maduro and arrest them immediately. And I mean, they're going against the Trump administration. And they have issued an announcement to all the law enforcement, all military, anyone that cooperated with the United States on that raid must be brought into custody immediately.

Yeah. So they issued that. I think it was about an hour ago. So we'll see what happens with that. But why would they do that? Because Trump and Arubio basically said that if this doesn't work, we have a clean sweep number two that's coming up yeah well it's because right now they have the vice president in power and the vice president under maduro obviously you would think why in the hell would they leave

a vice president in power but you also have machado the opposition party to maduro that was one of the ones i guess that basically lost you know she is very heavy israel very heavy she wants to move their consulate to uh jerusalem she's all she basically talks about israel and so So what I see this coming is like they're, they're going to act like, well, we tried to leave in the vice president. It didn't work because they're doing this. Now we got to bring in Machado. You know, we just got to bring this person in, right? But everybody's already speculating.

Everybody's like, here's the next president. I don't care what whatever the hell they're trying to say right now. This is who they're going to put in. So we're just waiting to see when that happens, if it happens. But it seems like if the current administration of Venezuela is doing this now, it's probably going to happen sooner and later. Here's some more. No, that's important. I'm glad you did. Where were you?

Well, so last week, if you remember, Tucker Carlson had said that he had a source saying that Donald Trump, his Donald Trump was addressing the nation that night. And he had said that Donald Trump's going to announce, you know, an escalation in the war or a declaration of war, which, you know, technically the president can't do. But I guess we're way past that. Yeah. That he was going to announce that he was going in there. And I had a couple, I had a couple people I know who were like close to it who said the same thing. And then he didn't, which was kind of strange. And he also, like, he interrupted your regularly scheduled programming.

Like, it was a presidential address to the nation. Yeah, a week ago. But then, like, didn't really announce anything. I didn't see that. Just announced how great the economy was or something like that. And so then it came this week instead. But this was, look, it's an unbelievably successful operation as of right now. And so that's, well, maybe I got that wrong.

I said last week, I guess it was a couple weeks ago. On the evening of December 16th, political commentator Tucker Carlson said off a firestorm when he claimed that President Donald Trump was poised to announce U.S. military invasion of Venezuela during his prime time address. But as the hour came and went, no such announcement materialized. President Trump made no mention of Venezuela nor of any military operation targeting the embattled South American nation. What if he did that because he didn't want Carlson to actually have called it? No, it wouldn't have been that. You know, I don't know.

I mean, it's like, I don't know. it's possible that he was planning on doing it and then backed out of it. It's possible Tucker got bad information. It's possible that plans just changed or whatever. But the thing did come a couple weeks later, so it does at least seem like there was something that might have been, you know, accurate about it. But look, I mean, I guess first and foremost, this really wasn't an incredible success just in terms of a military operation. Like, you know, I was shocked. They got it done.

they checkmated they took the king and queen dude there's uh well that's right i mean and okay so this picture now it looks like he's playing one of those games with those things dropping you have to catch him or whatever like ilya tipporio be like real good at it you're like whoa that's how he knocks people out like that he's got crazy speed if that's all he was doing but it's this is so because i first saw this this one of this is like um the mass singer or whatever they were doing like at the military or whatever i was like who is this i just couldn't i couldn't figure out because i just saw the image And then I realized, oh, my God, that's Maduro. So evidently, the vice president was in Russia at the time.

And the vice president demanded proof that he's, that Maduro's alive. And then Trump tweeted this out. So not clear whether it's like in response to that. Like, here's the proof that he's alive. But it does seem like they have him and his wife. And I just say, like, the success of the military operation, like, I know there's, you know, there's been all types, like, historically of attempts by. by the U.S. and the CIA to kill Saddam Hussein or to kill Castro or all types of other leaders.

And they have succeeded in something, Noriega, they got him and whatever. But there's been attempts to kill or capture all types of leaders. But for it to happen like this, like in one day, in one attack, go in and get him. I mean, even in 2003, I think we were in Iraq for a couple months before we got Saddam Hussein, you know. So they got him. okay all right and i want to make a point about jd vance jd vance was nowhere anywhere around this venezuela attack and everybody was wondering like why is jd vans nowhere to be seen nowhere to be heard of during this attack you know apparently he was in russia or somewhere

um you know that's what they say but it was strange because like he went black he went dark during this entire operation he didn't really tweet out anything during this time even when Trump just started to talk about it and kind of everybody started to talk about it. So, you know, it was something that some people were questioning. Like, why is that? Is he working on something else? Is he a part of something else? Also, like two days later, we have, you know, seven or eight C-17s, tons of U.S.

military aircraft that is going across the pond into UK, which from what I have seen is that a lot of that equipment has actually shown up in Israel. So it seems like, obviously, with the Iran government potentially falling right? now or, you know, a lot of people in the streets trying to take over government buildings, so on and so forth, a coup, which is, you know, not that surprising because we figured something like that would happen. We've been saying that, you know, the next war is going to be Iran. Israel's not going to let that not happen right now is the perfect time. And more so, as we also talked about, I think likely they have intelligence assets in Iran that's probably

promoting and pushing this overthrow of the government in Iran. Then they can just more easily go into Iran and can help it out, even though that could backfire because, you know, if you have this mass uprising that you may have created, right, against your regime and then Israel or the United States goes into Iran after this, that could backfire on them because then the people could turn away from going against their own government and now focusing on going against Israel or the United States. And then it kind of just completely stops your coup overthrow type thing. So what I think what they're trying to do without necessarily going into Iran,

to start with is I think they're trying to use the people, potentially, to overthrow the government so that the leader will flee, that they can then more easily come in and try to control or put in the right people in power, you know, just like they did in Ukraine. I think that's likely their plan. But I do see most likely the next conflict will be Iran. That's what I see. So anyways. But one of the things that's so fascinating is like, it's almost like like the last 25

years don't exist when you go on like I go on social media today and you just see all the war hawks all got their mission accomplished signs up right like they're all celebrating like look we got them when really getting them I mean look it's impressive they did it in one day without like a lot of boots on the ground you know we got a real badass military if people haven't noticed like the most badass group of fighting men that have ever been assembled in human history but we know we can kill these guys. Like, we know we could kill Saddam Hussein. We know we could kill Omar Gaddafi or Gaddafi or Bashar al-Assad. We could get him out of power. It's like, the question is what comes next? That's always the question. And that's the question that D.C. has always gotten wrong, you know, for 25 straight years.

So, like, to see them celebrating when there's not even, we have no idea what the hell is going to come next now. And it's not even a situation like Iraq or Afghanistan where we were militarily occupying the country. So it's a lot easier to direct who comes next when your troops are on there. We don't even have that right now. Trump just said, he's going to run it. He said, we're going to run it and then we'll decide who to hand it off to. Well, that's fucking vague. I mean, all right. Like what? And since when, you know, I listened with a force of like over a hundred thousand troops, substantially more than that, over 200,000 at one point, I listened to for 20 straight years, every war hawk in this country

lie through their fucking teeth about how capable this Afghan government that we had just built up there was. No, I'm not saying Venezuela and Afghanistan are the exact same thing, but I'm just saying like that was with a 20 year military occupation. And all this backing and hundreds of billions of dollars

of weapons, it fell apart in two days. You know, so like the idea that... They were the monkey bars. Remember all that shit? Oh yeah, yeah. They'd send them out there. We're doing like those tire drills. Yeah, our guys lost to that. We were doing, they were doing those like running through the tires, like get your knees up type of shit.

And they were like, and they were like, we're fucking kind of nailed it there, didn't we? They had PE teachers over there. Like, just, it was unbelievable. And so anyway, I guess they're just like the hubris of just being like, you know, like, look, I don't, I said people were kind of giving me shit. Some of the anti-war people actually were kind of giving me shit today because I just, I posted something on Twitter where I was like, well, I hope this works well. But like, I do. I hope it works out well. Like I would take it working out real well.

And then, okay, that doesn't look as good for the non-interventionist types like me. Like, see, this one works. Well, okay, it's already done now. So like, I hope it works out. But to watch people celebrating as if it's a given that it's going to work out. It's like it's, dude. And by the way, we didn't, at least as of now, Donald Trump kind of like diminished the opposition leader and is at least floating out the idea that the vice president. can like kind of maintain a transitional control.

So we haven't even overthrown the communists or anything like that yet. And the idea that. Right. So what exactly is being done? That's the biggest question. Because he was arrested on narco terrorism. This is Delce. That's Delcy.

And gun charges. And evidently U.S. gun control covers Venezuela now. There's a couple of theories of why we're even doing this, right? One of the reasons is because there are certain countries that are outside of, like our kind of comfort grid, right? And there's certain countries that are outside of our banking system. Yes.

Yeah. Right? And Venezuela is one of those. Yep. And so, and they also control a lot of oil. Well, so in a weird way, like, one of the things I like to do with these wars is like, you can kind of peel away the excuses. So, you know, for, for what, so when people, you know, say, oh, we're fighting the war in Iraq

to spread democracy or something like that. And then you could go, okay, so we're close allies with Saudi Arabia and the UAE and like all these other countries. But we have an issue about democracy. No, sorry, that's bullshit. Because if it was. Or then they'll say like, oh, we have to support Ukraine because of Vladimir Putin's human rights abuses. And you're like, wait, human rights abuses, but you sent $25 billion to Netanyahu in the last two years? Like, nah.

I don't think human rights abuses is really the issue. And then even they'll say like, well, it's because they're social. And it's like we've been arming the Kurds in Iraq and Syria for decades now, also socialist. So like, nah, I actually don't think. So it's like you kind of can peel away some of these bullshit excuses and then go, what's it really about? And I got my best guess on this is that two things I think play huge influence in this. Number one, Donald Trump, who always seems to just see a deal. And that's all, you know, like in his mind, he seems to think he's an opportunity.

His military is telling him we can take this guy out and put our people in and then I could get huge oil sales. And then I could turn around and say, look how good this economy is. And we win the midterm elections and whatever. He always has like he's. Yeah, I can sell Trump oil. I can sell like baby oil. Yeah, right. Trump.

I can sell. Yeah, the new gold shoes. Like, when the gold shoes came out. Yeah. He looks at Gaza while the rest of us are all like crying for the baby who's being crushed to death by cement and screaming for his mother who can't come help him because there's no bulldo. We look at that and go, oh my God, the human tragedy. Donald Trump and Jared C.

Beachfront property. Like, that's like where their mind goes. They're like, God, that baby's ruining this bulldozer's opportunity. No one's going to want to relax with a Mardi with this crying baby. How? We got to get this baby out of here. So they're not like, they're not like ethnically cleansing because they believe in greater Israel.

They want to ethnically cleanse so that rich people can enjoy a sunset on the beach. There's just always got to be a better place to have a Maita. Yeah, right. So anyway, but then the other thing, and I do think this is a real part of it, is that Marco Rubio is Cuban, and they're also allied with Cuba. Now, a lot of this stuff with like the allies, it's kind of like if you heard any, you know, like the BRICS agreement stuff that that's like really advanced over the last few years. Is that the stuff with China, Russia and all them? So like what happens is that if you're, the U.S. is the world empire, the most powerful empire in the history of the world. So if you're on the outs with us, you kind of have no choice other than to make friends with the other people who are on the outs with us.

Because those are like your only options left. Like that's actually why Fidel Castro went communist to begin with because he was enemies with the United States of America. And so what were you going to do? Right. You got to ally with the Soviet Union. You got to have some boys. Right. It's like going to prison.

Right. You got to join one gang or the other. And so a lot of them, they end up having friendly relations. But the belief is, and they've said this quiet part out loud. bunch of times. I don't know if this is true or not, but they think that the regime in Cuba will fall as a result of this regime being overthrown. And there's a whole bunch of Cubans in America, Marco Rubio being one of them, who understandably really hate socialism in Cuba, but remember it as like a successful country before then, even though I think Rubio was actually

ruined before the cash, his family was like. Cuba was actually ruined you mean? No, no, no, I think Marco Rubio, if I'm remembering this correctly, his family got kicked that by like the Batista regime or they had some beef with them. But they want to overthrow the communists. Yeah, it's like I want to get done what my parents wanted to get done. Yeah, something like that. And what he's saying here is, though, that Cuba is heavily reliant and very, very reliant on Venezuela.

And they have been for a very long time. And now that the United States has taken over Venezuela, especially their oil, basically going to be taken over their finances, everything. They don't have to do anything to Cuba for Cuba to fall. Right. And when Cuba falls, then that'll probably be like a Puerto Rico or something. It'll be a part of the United States in some way, shape, or form, just like likely Venezuela could also end up. But if you talk to any American that are a Cuban American, I guess, in America, if you talk to any of these people, they hate Cuba and they hate an administration that's in there.

And they want an administration change. And there's so many people over in Cuba that are suffering. Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, and it's always been the very interesting thing about so many wars and so many things, has always been in like, like we get to fight communism we get to fight all this shit you know that was back in operation northwoods even with jfk although you know back in northwood's days the joint chiefs of staff came and they said hey we want to kill americans and make it look like it was cuban terrorist and jfk was like we're not doing that are you on crack right i mean that's what he basically

told is 12 joints of chiefs of staff and uh so that plan was basically null and void although we do know based on declassified documents that the united states number one has always wanted to take down cuba they've always basically wanted to control cuba and And there's a lot of reasons for that. Number one is because of China and Russian influence also in relationships with Cuba. Obviously, Cuba's right here back door. I think Venezuela was a chess piece that the United States also used and is going to help them probably at some point in time go into Cuba and at least control them more than they ever have before. But even like with the theory, and I got to talk about this too, there are so many people that have emailed us and ask us about the central bank.

system in Venezuela. It's not necessarily true that they're not a part of central banking. They are. They do have a central bank. They are even a part of the world global alliance of banks and whatever. Although Venezuela owed that system or there are multiple systems that are a part of like multibillions of dollars, I believe, never were going to pay them. And so although yes, they were a part of the central banking system, they also owed them shit tons of money. So they weren't really working with them. We also know the United States actually sanctioned Venezuela. over the past eight to 10 years. And in that sanction,

and it basically allowed or basically didn't allow Venezuela to go, like especially with credit cards and debit cards and, and various things that we were afforded here in the United States and across Europe. Venezuela does not have access to. So that was because of U.S. sanctions. So a lot like some of that was our doing, you know, in the fact that Venezuela could not operate the same way we do on the banking system and the banking, I guess, platform.

But then number two is that Venezuela just owed them shit tons of money was never going to pay them, although they had the money to pay them. So is it a logical theory that they weren't a part of the central banking system is why we did this? I don't necessarily believe that. We do know they were a part of it. But are they really give a damn about it? But are they also a part of the BRICS system, money system, with Russia and China? Well, I mean, it depends on how you look at it because, you know, we do know that they did do business with Russia and China and Iran. you know, whoever else. So, uh, regardless of however that says, I mean, you, and you also got

to think too, you know, if the United States sanctions you and then you all, the central banking systems billions of dollars, well, you have to be able to make money somehow. And so the way they were making money was through Russia and China and wherever their oil exports were going, you know, and we didn't really get any of their oil. We do know, by the way, that the United States has been saying, well, we, we sent in and set up infrastructure back in a day. Right. And then it was basically stolen from us. We do know that China did indeed actually go to Venezuela. They set up a lot of oil infrastructure.

This was post. Yeah, this was post. And so it seems like China, at the very least, was probably trying to really get in to Venezuela on a mass scale and control Venezuela. I don't know about Russia. I'm sure Russia was also kind of involved in this. They say Iran was as well. But either way, if you just look at this situation from a strictly standpoint of like, let's not let China, let's not let Russia and let Iran in, obviously because they're kind of right at our back door we have to go in we're going to control

this shit and if you don't like it then you know whatever way out yeah and so you know from that standpoint it wasn't a bad move right if that's what your thing is that's what you know that's what you see is going on you know that china is down there just like the um panama canal we apparently that china controls a lot of the panama canal that's why trump in the beginning of his term was like hey, we're going to take back the Panama Canal. Like we don't even own that shit no more. I don't know why we ever sold it. Now China basically runs everything through there.

And that's a very strategic canal to the United States or America. Why in the hell would we ever sell it? And why would we let China basically move in? Very similarly to the same shit we've talked about for a year to where China owns so much farmland in the United States. We were literally letting them buy farmland next to military bases in the United States. I mean, we have it in North Carolina, Oklahoma, California. We have it here.

Montana, South Carolina. Yeah, and although I don't know about all the military bases as far as where China's or Chinese land is here. But we do not. We've talked about many times. There are tons of huge buildings around South Carolina that are owned by Chinese companies. And some of these companies, you don't even know what the hell they do. I mean, hell, they can be making weapons for all we know. Well, and that's what's crazy is some of these huge industrial buildings that we see that have Chinese names on them.

They're huge, but they look vacant all the time. You never see cars there. No, but they do have tons of shipping containers. Yes. And usually the fencing around the buildings are barbed wire fencing. You don't see very many cars there very often. You don't even see any trucks there, but you do see a mass amount of shipping containers. And so I don't know.

I have no idea what's going on with that. Most of that was allowed to happen during the Biden administration. I know also during the Obama administration is when it started. Then when Trump came in, that was like a four years, I guess they were still moving and doing things. But I guess Trump was not really up on any of that shit. We didn't really start finding out about all the Chinese farmland until, at least the public, until the Biden administration. I don't even know what we're going to do about it now. I know they are trying to pass some stuff through Congress to not allow Chinese companies to buy in the United States.

You know, it's just the same. But the damage is already done. And do you think China would let Americans buy land in China? No, absolutely not. But that's something the government can do is go to these Chinese landowners and say, peace out, you're done. I don't give a damn if you bought it or not. You are a Chinese national. you are a part of or connected to in some way the Chinese government.

Every business and company that comes from China is connected to the Chinese Communist Party. I mean, there is no distinction because you don't get your license in. And not only that, not just, I mean, it's similar here, but it's just a lot more stringent. For China to have corporations and stuff that are going to come to the United States, they're going to have probably spies in those companies. They're going to have, they're going to utilize these companies to gain. entry into the United States to spy on U.S. military bases, to potentially hack our systems, to surveil our systems, our power grids, you name it.

Well, and we already let them do that. Do you remember when the Chinese spy balloon came across America? And just let it happen. And just watched it go through. I mean, we saw it in the sky ourselves. Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah, I have no idea why that was allowed to happen. But I just wanted to kind of explain some of that as they're talking through this.

And, you know, which is somewhat understandable, I just think like you should be up front with that and not try to use the U.S. military to like live out your personal fantasy. In a weird way, it's a similar thing with Israel. Well, it seems like that's a lot of what's going on these days. Yeah, it's like you kind of get Trump in there and he is a boss. You know what I'm saying? The dude is like mercil, like you almost want to say merciless. I don't know if that's the word.

Yeah. I mean, he's, he's, he's, he's him. I mean, he's exactly. I don't even fucking how to describe him, dude. But you know what I'm saying? It's almost like I don't even know how to describe things. He's a different kind of person, man, than almost anybody else for good and for bad. One of the things you just said, though, was just about the Venezuela thing.

There was another article. A guy was talking about a paper tiger. And it was kind of a challenge to the BRICS countries, like to that outside group. And first I want to get, what is a paper tiger holding? As perplexity, what is a paper tiger? Well, something that appears to be ferocious. but is really just, you know, like made of paper. Like the idea is that like, oh, yeah, you present yourself as strong and powerful, but you're really weak.

It's like a bluff. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and foreign policy, a paper tiger is a state alliance or a threat that looks militarily or politically powerful from the outside, but is actually weak, limited or unwilling to act when challenged. I always love that, by the way, which is like, if they're a paper tiger, then why the hell we got to fight wars against them then, you know, like essentially, because this is what they always said about Russia. They'd say in one breath, John McCain would say, Russia is just a gas station with nukes. So they would go, all they are is this, you know, they got some gas and they got some nukes, but they got no economy and they got this tiny GDP. And then in the next breath, all the hawks go, if we don't fund Ukraine, they're going to take over Poland and reconstitute the Soviet Union.

You're like, well, I thought they were weak. Yeah. So like, which one is it? Are they taking over all of Europe or are they not? Because if they're weak, then maybe we don't really need to worry about them. Yeah, there's a lot of hypocrisy that goes on. I mean, it's constant. This guy is just an interesting take, I thought, just about this stuff.

Then we can get it out of our systems. The Venezuelan issue is both a crucial test of paper tiger quality on the part of all the great powers now. China, Russia, and the United States. China knows very well that the fentanyl excuse to stop the alleged fentanyl trade into the United States is used by Trump to mobilize for water. against Venezuela, where China is the largest of them, international investors. If China and Russia let the US make a regime change, just kill President Maduro, and destroy the Venezuelan government and replace it with Mrs. Machado or something else. What's the credibility of the two of the three powers in bricks to assist anyone, even themselves? That's the paper tiger aspect. If it's the case,

that neither China nor Russia can deter nor Bricks, Brazil, India and the others, Iran, can deter the United States from destroying invading Venezuela and destroying its sovereign government. If they can't, then Bricks is a paper tiger too. Just kind of interesting. It is interesting. Just interesting all the little things that could be a part of it, right? Because it does just seem kind of confusing. Like most people could not pick out where Venezuela is on a map, right? Most of us had never even thought of Maduro or heard of him before probably within the past month, right? Unless you like, you know, I mean, he's had a very interesting story as a bus driver and being like a man of the people and everything.

But then seemingly getting compromised and like overwhelmed by wealth and power over time. And then like a lot of his influences and stuff were very like socialist influencers and stuff like that. And so but then. But like also to your point, like imagine, you know, when you're saying. So many people couldn't have, you know, picked this out on, pick Venezuela out on a map or something like that. I mean, if you just think, right, so I was here a year ago with you, how drastically different things are just a year ago. I mean, like a year ago, Donald Trump had his highest approval ratings that he's ever had. He was the greatest political comeback story in American history.

Just something that was totally like, it was amazing the way he not only came back from like, say, where he was. right after January 6th when the question was whether he's going to go to jail and going through all the trials and getting shot and then to not only come back and win the popular vote and win every swing state but he won the culture he won the youth yeah it would have been like it would have seemed impossible just a few years earlier black kids are calling him daddy literally black is john jones is doing the trump dance at madison square garden i think we were both there that night um and uh just a crazy crazy thing right and now you know he's he's he's totally like divided as base. There's an infight in the repul, all this stuff. But anyway, so a year ago,

when people were so excited about Donald Trump coming in, you never met one Trump supporter in your life who went, now we're going to get regime change in Venezuela. That's why I'm excited that Donald Trump's here. I mean, people wanted no new wars. They wanted the border secure. They wanted the economy turned around. They wanted inflation dealt with. Nothing. There was never, there was no demand from Trump's base. And so this is like one more example. of Donald Trump just siding with the Warhawks over his own people. And one of the things that really, I find it like to be so, it's such a like an intolerable humiliation of Donald Trump supporters is that all these guys, the Warhawks, Mark, Marco Rubio,

Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, like go down the list, all of them, Ted Cruz, every last one of them. They were the never Trumpers. Like, I don't know if maybe some people just want. weren't paying attention to politics as long as I've been. They were the never-Trumpers. Anyone but Donald Trump. They ran a front-page cover of National Review saying never Trump, anyone but Donald Trump. All of them.

Ben Shapiro said on issues of, because it's a matter of principle, I will never vote for Donald Trump. He said he would hold his nose and allow Hillary Clinton to be elected president before he sent his, at the time, massive audience to support Donald Trump. And now Donald Trump turns around and makes Little Marco his national security advisor. Remember how he embarrassed him in the debates? Yep. And you called him Little Marco. He used to tear him apart. And you know what he used to say? Man, oh, dude, I hope I'm getting this right. There was, I believe there's a tweet. You could probably find it where Donald Trump said something like Sheldon Adelson will be able to control Little Marco. And that's why you can't let him be president. And that's the guy, the lady's husband?

Yeah, he died, but Miriam Adelson is still alive. And they're his biggest donors. They've given him like hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, yeah. It's a, and that's, I don't even think that. Like, if you counted the money. And we've talked about Marion Adelson before. She is the biggest Jewish donor.

One of the biggest Jewish donors and her husband was also a huge Jewish donor. I think he's dead now. But either way, you know, this was something that Donald Trump said to Marco Rubio or said about Marker Rubio in a tweet. And also, I think also on a couple of different interviews where when they were going against each other and Trump's like, well, you can't have Marker Rubion because then Adelson's will control him, aka Israel will control Marker Rubio. And we know this. So you guys can't vote for him. We're America first.

Remember? We got to love and care about America, not Israel, not influence from Israel. And then and then yet now Adelson is Donald Trump's biggest donor. And yet he is literally controlled by Israel. Well, I just wanted to point out what he was saying, too, about when he was running and everyone in the Trump zone was not even thinking about Venezuela. But I think the reason why Trump was thinking about Venezuela is he does have a grudge and he holds a grudge from the 2020 elections. And he knows that something was crooked with the voting machines and it had to do with Venezuela. I think that's another, it could be another reason why maybe it was a grudge.

And like he said, Trump, he is the art of the deal. He wants to make the most money he can. Like they see Gaza as sunsets and drinks or whatever. He's looking at Venezuela as a deal in the way to make America rich. Yeah. I mean, I agree with, you know, hey, let's take the most amount of money we can from a country that's easy to get. Let's take all their oil. Understand that.

And even as we talked about the voting machine thing on our last podcast, we kind of went into depth about all that. so if you guys want to go and go in depth about that. But do not think he's holding a grudge or he could be holding a grudge? And that's why he went against Venezuela? I mean, if someone convinced him of that's what Venezuela is doing, maybe. But I just, you know, even as we kind of went down that rabbit hole on the last episode, I don't necessarily. Yes, there are connections for sure with Smartmatic Dominion voting, you know, so on.

But I don't necessarily know that like the entirety of reasoning behind if the 2020 election was stolen, which it seems like it was. If that did happen, you know, was it from Venezuela? Like, did Venezuela think this up? I doubt it. And you would have to say that someone, some faction, some group of people utilize Venezuela maybe to start kind of their, I guess, experimentation with stealing of elections, which is what they did in Venezuela, that they then used and utilized in the 2020 election in the United States, which somehow

through various processes in some ways may have changed. hands because as we know, Dominion voting actually bought out technology from a company that was owned by Smartmatic, right? Or owned Smartmatic. Because Smartmatic closed down after like, I don't know, the sixth election that was stolen. Well, it's kind of like, you know, these security companies that go out and do the dirty work for our government. They're constantly closing down and just reopening and changing their name.

Absolutely. Yeah, like the security contractors. Yeah. I mean, as soon as they get a bad name, they close down. and then go to something else. But, you know, it's interesting, you make a good point because if you kind of follow likely, like, who the people in charge are behind the scenes of these companies as they progress throughout the years, I'm sure there's a lot of the same players behind the scenes,

just different names as the forefront, the public facing domain. And as we said, even with the 2020 election and Dominion voting, when anyone said that, you know, hey, Dominion voting might have had something to do with a stolen election and they might have, you know, allowed their computers to be hacked or they had some type of algorithm that would switch votes and all this shit. I mean, that's why Fox News got sued for $700 million, although Fox News didn't even go to court to fight it. You know, they didn't even go to court to fight it. They just gave them $700 million. They fired Tucker Carlson. They got rid of anybody that even tried to claim that the election was stolen. Even going back to the 2000 Mules documentary,

that team that was a part of the 2000 Mules documentary, which in my opinion, I think beyond a reasonably, or beyond a reasonable doubt proved that 2020 was stolen, well, that team that had worked with multiple presidential administrations over the course of the past 25 years. And they were bipartisan, they worked with the Clinton administration and Bush administration. What their job was to do was they looked at all the data. They utilized all these various systems to help each presidential team determine what, you know, how many votes were stolen, you know, what was the amount of cheating and fraud, all this stuff. And they were always very, very well respected until they helped Dinesh D'Souza do the documentary

about 2,000 mules. And then it was probably about seven or eight months after that documentary came out. Those people actually went to prison. Yeah. They went to jail over some BS. And it was like, kind of similar to how Alex Jones, you know, when he, when Alex Jones was supplying him with the court during the Sandy Hook trial. he was supplying them with all this information, all this data.

The court said, hey, we need this and this and this. Alex Jones sent it to him. And then eventually the court came and said, well, you're defaulted because you didn't give us this. And he's like, we did give you this. And he's like, no, you're defaulted. So you automatically default on it. Now we're going to now it's just automatic judgment for $1.2 billion.

This is what courts do. They give you an automatic judgment. It doesn't matter how much proof you have. It doesn't matter any of that shit. If the corrupt, if the court is corrupt, you're screwed. And trust me, we know this. It does not matter what evidence you have. It doesn't matter what substantiate and proof that you have beyond a reasonable doubt that you're innocent.

It matters about who is the power behind the court. Who controls that court? Who controls that judge? And it's the same exact thing with the Fox News thing. It's the same thing with, you know, when Donald Trump went for 34 felonies. It's the system is rigged. It is controlled by power and money. And you don't really understand.

understand that until you're a part of it. And I think that's why it's like if you look at certain people in different communities that once they enter the system, they hate the system. And it's really hard for them to get out of the system. You know, I mean, that's, that is a fact. And so anyways, we'll continue. For his first run, his second run and the midterms, they're probably close to a billion dollars that they've given. Look at this fee right there. Sheldon Adelson is looking to give big dollars to Rubio because he feels. he can mold him into his perfect little puppet. Wow.

I agree. He agrees with that. Just to be clear, this is, and this is just a fact. This is 2015. Nobody, nobody, has been molded into more of a puppet for the Edelson's than Donald Trump. And Donald Trump now, which the, I know you've probably seen a couple of it. It's so crazy. It almost, and I'm not saying this is the case.

I don't think this is the case. But it almost seems like Donald Trump is like. is like mocking them when he'll talk about how much they just care about Israel. Like he'll openly, he goes out of his way about who, that he's just to Merriam Adelson and Sheldon Adelson that he'll go, they gave me a lot of money, and they called me all the time, and they always come by, and they're always asking for something, and it's always for Israel. And I do it all. I give it all to it.

Like, he's just openly telling you that these, look, Miriam Adelson is a Palestinian, Theo. She was born before the creation. of the state of Israel in what is today Israel. Am I right about this? What year? Born in 1945 in, yeah, you could say Israeli-American, but there's no such thing as Israel in 1945. Israel wasn't created until 1948.

She was born in Palestine. She was born in Tel Aviv Mandatory Palestine. Right. So she's from there. Is this a new term mandatory Palestine? It was a term at the time. It was. It was a term at the time where they basically, like, they were like,

oh, we're not doing imperialism anymore. we're just doing mandates. It's mandates where we come in and run the country. And we'll take some of the resources too. It's just such an interesting term, mandatory. Okay. So that's where she was born. Let me just say back.

So my land, she was Palestinian. Yes. So now he was born in America. Who, Sheldon? Yeah. Sheldon was born in America. He's black or no. No, he's not black.

Actually, Jewish fellow. He is on record saying that his biggest regret in life is that he wore the American military uniform and not the IDF uniform. So these are like Israel firsters, openly, and Donald Trump says as much. Oh, yeah. Well, he just, I mean, Donald Trump is, you know, like they just had an announcement the other day or he was in a, he was at a event where they, he said he was Israel's best president. They said, you're Israel's best president.

Mark Levin said he's the first Jewish president. It's wild. By the way, Mark Levin called me a Nazi. He did? Yeah, two days ago. on Twitter. No, he called me a neo-Nazi, to be fair. Oh, that's cool.

Which is nicer. Well, new. Yeah. Like, he wasn't actually claiming that I was a member of Hitler's, you know, national socialist workers party. Yeah, that's impossible, first of all, for you to pull off. And second of all, neo-Nazis, I don't think it's, it's not even determined what they're going to do with their whole plan yet.

Yeah. No, we're still working on it. Yeah, that's, you got to play that out, man. You got to play that out. But it is a funny, like, I'm literally all, essentially, my politics are all just like, I'm against, I'm against wars and government. Like, I just want government to have less power and fight less wars. Yeah.

Which is strikingly similar to Adolf Hitler, as everybody knows. That was what he was known for, too. But that's the biggest, right. That's the biggest weapon, though. I mean, even Tucker was talking about this. It's the biggest weapon of people like him, I guess, to just call you Hitler or to call you an anti-Semite. It's just like, it's, I don't know. And it's a weapon that's kind of out of bullets a lot of times.

You know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. We talked about that before about how it's just been used so much. What is this part right here? And these people do like Israel. Hold on. He loves Israel, too.

That's true. Six years ago, I was up here. And I said, this is our first Jewish president. That's true. Now he's the first Jewish president to serve two not consecutive presidencies. We thank you for everything. Like there's another one? No.

Well, he's saying like that he lost and then came back in that he served two terms. But like you could have just said served two terms. Like what was the. And also the reason why, by the way, that I want I want everybody to understand. And that was Mark Levin by. Mark Levin, of course. The same guy that called Dave Smith a neo-Nazi. So there's a reason, by the way, that they keep making sure that they refer to Trump as the president that has served two non-consecutive terms.

the reason for this. I don't know if we saw that like, you know, the hats are going around and kind of when people joke about it, that Trump, Trump 2028, yeah. Okay. So the official thing, it says, no, you can't technically do that even if it's non-consecutive, although there are some loopholes, which is, you know, I know Trump's talked about the stealing of the 2020 election, you know, that that's something that he's talked about where that they could potentially repeal the 22nd Amendment, which would then, that would require, Congress, but then he could potentially run for a third term. The other way of this is a constitutional crisis, right?

And that could be war. It could be any of that stuff. It could be something to do with the Constitution. Then he could potentially run or be elected into a third term, given the circumstances at the present time. There are reasons that he could potentially do that. But I do find it always very interesting how they continue to talk about non-consecutive President Trump in that way.

So I did want to just mention that anyway. he is like which is very weird to see done to Trump but a lot of people are making it he's kind of like big dog in him like he's like you know like kind of pulling him closer it's all very bizarre but yeah it's true condescending Donald Trump is uh the most pro-Israel president of american history there's no question about that but the thing is that like what's omitted there is that actually all the other presidents were pro-israel too they would just have some demands on Israel like they would just go like hey could you just you just stop doing this because this is a huge problem for us. And then Israel wouldn't stop doing that. And then they would get annoyed at them. And then so like, there's lots of examples like this. Like both George H.W. Bush and Barack Obama made a big thing out of asking him to stop building settlements on the West Bank. Could you just not do that? Because you're expanding these settlements, causing all these problems. The whole international, you know, community is outraged by it.

And then they just wouldn't stop. Yeah, that's one of the things that caused a lot of riffs over the years, too, was just the taking over of Palestinian's homes, like people walking in and it was known. It's not a debated thing. Oh, it's on video. Yeah, there's tons of video of it. So it was just, but it was walking in and taking over Native Palestinians homes, just taking it over and kicking them out.

And I think after 30 years of that, it just became too much for people. Yeah. So, well, the one poll I saw was, they say it was before October 7th, they said, who do you sympathize with more? The Israelis or the Palestinians. And it was plus 48% pro-Israel. And then taken like a couple months ago, it was plus one for the Palestinians.

So it was a 50 point collapse, right? So anyway, we had speculated because Israel's in this situation where everybody's turning on them because they just committed a genocide in 4K and forced us to fund it and we're all appalled by that. But at the same time, they have the most pro-Israel president in right now. So they could look at the writing on the wall and go, this is the best opportunity we have right now. And then a lot of us, and I said this on Rogan last time I was there, I go, they might move to annex the West Bank, like to formally just take the whole thing because now is their best opportunity to do it. Now, Trump came out and said, kind of unprompted.

It was in a Politico article. He said, someone asked him about that and said what? And he goes, no, I will not let Israel annex the West Bank. And so they go, well, what are you going to do if they did annex the West Bank? And he actually said they would lose support from America if they annexed the West Bank. And then... And we say annexed west bank this means take it over completely.

Just take it over and claim it as part of Israel. Which, by the way, they've in effect already done, but they haven't formally done it, okay? So now, this is the politico piece. So then cut to a month later, J.D. Vance is in Israel. And the Knesset holds a vote over annexing the West Bank.

And it passes. They intentionally... Now, this was like kind of a symbolic vote or whatever. But Donald Trump, who's been the most... pro-Israel president goes, I'll, I'll fund your genocide, I'll arm your genocide, I'll bomb around for you, I'll shoot down the Iranian missiles coming back at Israel in response. We'll bomb the Houthis for you. You bomb the negotiators of a deal I'm trying to make, and I'll still work with you.

You'll still get funding. One request, just don't annex the West Bank. Yeah, and Israel does not give a damn about what Trump says. And that's, that's the interesting thing is like even when Trump, you know, talked about, you know, he supposedly negotiated the peace talks. And I, we had a video on our Instagram where it was like two days later Israel was bombing Gaza again. And so someone asked him about it. He's like, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Yeah.

And everybody made all those crazy viral videos about that. Yeah. And he had songs about it and all this stuff. Because Israel doesn't give a damn about what Donald Trump says or the United States. They never have, right? They're like, well, whatever. And as he's saying here, like when J.D. Vance was in Israel, they literally held a vote on to annex the West Bank while J.D. Vance was over there, knowing what Trump's already said about it. And it passed unanimously. And it was almost like a spit in your face. Like, we don't give a shit about what the United States says. And for those that don't know what the West Bank is, well, the United States does not want Israel to take over the West Bank because they think that it is a U.S. strategic interest, international law position, and regional stability. The West Bank is considered. occupied territory under international law captured by Israel in 1967.

The U.S. has long held that permanent annexation of occupied land violates international law, endorse an annexation would undermine U.S. credibility globally. And if the U.S. openly allowed Israel to annex the West Bank, it would weaken American's ability to oppose Russian and Ukraine, China and Taiwan, and other territorial expansions worldwide. So in simple terms, the U.S. would be breaking its own rules and rivals would immediately use that against the United States, such as... Interesting. Such as Russia in Ukraine.

They would just take over Ukraine and China in Taiwan. But it doesn't make sense. When you look at the map of Israel, the West Bank is right there in the north part of Israel. It's surrounded by Israel. Yeah. So it's kind of weird that there's this section in Israel that doesn't belong to Israel. Well, it's not just a section. I mean, you have Gaza and then you have the West Bank, which is not.

Well, Gaza is like the strip. It's a strip. But the West Bank is a pretty large section. actually. That's not Israel. That is the West Bank. I know, but it's surrounded by Israel. Like it's in a country. It's like a country within a country kind of. Well, either way, what I'm saying is, though, too, is that we have, we also have to

understand the West Bank actually has quite a few Christians in the West Bank. You know, so the United States has always protected that area, not just for that reason, but for decades, U.S. policy was built around basically negotiating a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians. And this is where some of this comes from. So that framework comes largely from the Oslo, Accords, which divided the West Bank into administrative zones and delayed final borders. So if Israel annexes that territory, a Palestinian state becomes impossible.

The peace framework collapses permanently, and the U.S. loses this main diplomatic leverage in the region. And so Arab allies and regional stability, the U.S. relies on cooperation from Arab and Muslim majority countries for military basin, counterterrorism, oil markets, and containing Iran. And so formal annexation of the West Bank would force U.S. allies to pull. publicly break with Washington, trigger unrest across Jordan, Egypt, and the Gulf, and risk destabilizing Jordan, which has a large Palestinian population. So then that would further basically destroy or kick out the Palestinians.

And if we look at the situation and we look at how Israel responded to Gaza, where they, it was a genocide essentially, where they wanted to, it seems like kill as many civilians as possible. When you annex the West Bank, you're just going to be killing even more Palestinians. and as this also says, it makes a two-state solution almost impossible, which we're already seeing on mainstream media. They don't want a two-state solution. Israel wants to completely control Gaza and the West Bank.

They don't want Palestinians there whatsoever. They want to control that land. And I go back to the point of like Iran might be next. Will Iran be the next big target for Israel? I think it is. I think we're already kind of setting up for that. But we'll see. So, nope.

And we're going to intend. intentionally vote that way while your vice president is here just to let you know that you get that we run this shit and you don't and that for all the billions for all the billions you give us we're still in charge it's just too crazy man fucking gangster it is gangster you got to admit that i mean oh dude you have to also there's like a gangster party you that's like fuck these motherfuckers are not playing dude oh yeah yeah no no question about it man and that's all it is that's all any government is at the highest level is gangster shit. Yeah. And that they are really, really good at it. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty fascinating.

Let's talk about like, so it's been a year since Trump's been in. You said some of his base is kind of split now. It does feel a little bit like there's like this. How do you feel like Trump's done in his first year? Like, what are things that he's done that you like? I think he's been terrible. And I assumed he probably would be a disappointment.

And I supported him last year just because I thought like all things being considered it was better for our country that he win than Kamala Harris win. And also the Democrats just so deserve to lose. Like, you just can't reward that. Well, Camalia, I just saw the Kalala's on. We had a senile president and they all pretended we didn't. It's just too crazy. That was too crazy.

They also like, I mean, look, I mean, their policy on COVID, their policy on Ukraine, and then don't forget, they were a full year into back in the genocide when it happened. So they were, you know, they deserve to lose. Donald Trump has done a really good job in securing the border. We had a really open border under Joe Biden. We have a secure border now. Aside from that, it's just been disastrous.

I mean, I just couldn't. And not even just disastrous like the policy was wrong, but just the way they handled it. I mean, the handling of the Epstein scandal is got to, that goes down in history as like the worst handling of a scandal I've ever seen. literally from all these guys running on we're going to release this stuff Pam Bondi having that thing where she gave the influencers the binders the binders There were then there was nothing in them that was new and then they pivoted on a dime to there's no such thing I don't even know what you're talking about you're crazy to think there was a thing to be released It was and then to turn around and then they turn around and Mike Johnson said it will end the political order

If we vote for Thomas Massey and rocahana and Marjorie Taylor Green bill to release the files. And then they turn around and get pressured into voting for it. And now they're just redacting everything. And like, it's just, I mean, just he lost so much credibility on that. Obviously, the, I think bombing around was terrible. Well, let's go one thing in a time. Sure, sure.

So look, so yeah, break up some of those pictures that they just released too. What? And we'll pause here because, you know, they go on for three hours in this episode. And, you know, Dave Smith was someone that was vouching for Trump. And he's like, look, we got to get Trump in. I think everybody was. I think literally everybody was going into 2024. I, you know, I think there's a reason why Donald Trump won unanimously.

I mean, he won all the swing states. But I disagree with Dave Smith as far as it's been terrible, what he's done as a president at the first year. I think he's done way more than just close the borders to help America. Well, this is where we'll disagree, I guess, because, you know, to me, like we were, at least in my opinion, I think I was heavily, and so far anyway, I mean, we're over a year into his presidency now. And I am highly disappointed. And I think that, you know, you can't, you can't not look at the way the Trump administration handled the Epstein files and just be okay with that. You know, I was literally in a debate the other night on our telegram with someone about this. And they're like, look, you got to just take what you're given, you know, and just forget it basically.

Like, who cares about, you know, it's almost like who cares about the Epstein thing? Just move on. You know, you know, Trump's doing this. And he might get gas prices down. And even though gas prices are going down. But like that's, you know, still Americans are struggling to survive. It's not like because Trump's been in. Yes, he's only been in a year.

So I understand it takes time. especially after the last administration that was almost intentionally trying to destroy our economy in our country. But at the same time, I think a lot of people are looking at the administration right now and they're saying, well, I thought we were America first. I thought we were Make America great again. And now Trump's making all these things. Make Venezuela great again, he just said on the news.

Make Israel great again. Let's make sure that we just continue to give all these billions of dollars. We thought that the Ukraine situation. You know, Trump said, we're going to stop. all these wars on day one. He also said that he thought it was going to be the easiest war to end and it's been the hardest war to end. Well, and part of that is probably because of some of his shit talking going into it. And obviously Putin's over there like, okay, we'll see about that. But also, you know, how are you going to negotiate with Putin, but yet you as a new president coming in are

still sending billions of dollars to Ukraine? You're still doing this. You're also sending long range missiles, you're still supporting the war in Ukraine because the reason why Trump's still doing that is because the same people that Dave Smith was talking about all these warhawks, Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, Mark Levin, all these people that love war. Those are all the people that are closest to Trump. Those are the ones that's calling Trump, the first Jewish president and all the shit. These are the people. These are the people that have the Ukraine bios in their Ukraine flags in their bios.

These are the people that wear little Israel pins, you know, and Ukraine pins. It wasn't just Democrats doing that. It's Republicans. It's basically whoever is supported and propped up by the military industrial complex. These are the people that Trump is heavily surrounded around. And so when we all thought that like, well, we're not going to be giving Ukraine money no more. Nope. No, well, we still are.

And, you know, the excuse for that is, well, we're getting tariffs now. So, you know, we can give Ukraine money. And we can, you know, as long as we keep the military industrial complex happy, we're going to continue to send billions of dollars to Israel. I think too. And we're going to completely fumble the Epstein thing. It's not even fumble. It was like an intentional,

complete psychopathic response. And I think what, I think the day that Trump's base was heavily divided was when he looked at the camera, when they had their little cabinet meeting and they were trying to lie to everybody. Elon Musk was in the room that day. Yeah.

And Trump was like, look, you know, if you question us and if you're not one of our, if you're not, if you question us about Epstein files and, and, and you think we're, we're lying about him or whatever and you you want to continue to talk about this shit you're not maga we don't need you get to hell out of our party yeah and this is a total hoax yeah it's all a

that's what he said is a democrat hoax so basically everybody everybody that he got on board that allowed him to win the swing states that allowed him to win in the fashion he did in 24 i would say probably every one of those new voters that he brought in from the rfk party from the democrats they're gone yeah they're done yeah and so that's what i was fun like when I was debating this person the other night and I was like, well, if you want to sit here and act like that Israel is not important to debate, if you want to act like the Epstein files, the way they've handled it is not important to the debate. But yet you want Republicans to win in 26 and 28, then you're really far off base.

Because I'm telling you, those two things, the Israel thing. They matter to a lot of people. And the Epstein files are going to destroy Republicans in 26 and 28. I'm talking about landslide victories for Democrats. no matter who they run, all Republicans had to do was get in the office, do what they said. Hey, we're going to release the Epstein files. Here you go. We're not going to-JFK files, disclosure, even though people are like, look, who gives shit about the alien files? At least give us the shit that really matters.

Like, you know, the kids that are being trafficked to elites and politicians. Like, at least let us know or just show some accountability for this. Or, like, let's arrest some people, you know, like, let's actually hold people accountable for shit. And if you're not even doing it against the people that went after you, which is weird, a lot of people are like, why is he not even going after people that went after him that was about to put him in prison? Well, he said at one time he would not even lock Hillary Clinton up if he, if he were the president and it was his choice.

He said that after he got an office. But before that, the whole big meme was lock her up. Yeah, she's a rock. Lock her up. It was all a lie. It's all facade. It's almost like a game that we are that we are being played into. I mean, that's what it really seems like, because then once he becomes a president, everything

changes. I think he's funding Ukraine still because Putin wouldn't come to his terms and would not let him make a deal and it pissed him off. Well, number one, I mean, I'm pretty sure that we were funding Ukraine still. I know we were. Even before Trump ever even talked to him. Oh, of course. But I'm just saying I think that Putin really pissed Trump off.

And Trump's like, you know what? Screw you. If you don't want to make a deal, then I'm going to fund the other side against you. you. But I think part of the problem, and I think this is just my opinion, I think part of the problem that we run into as people, American citizens, is that we still think that our president is actually in control. And he's not. But he's in a lot more control than most presidents have been in the past. You would think. You would think maybe, but I don't think so. I think they're using him. I think they're using him to get what they want based on his personality, based on all of that stuff.

And then if it goes wrong, they're going to blame Trump. But they're going to use. use him just like Israel is going to this next three years, whatever happens in the Middle East with Israel and what they decide to do and the United States, it's going to be crazy. I'm just telling you. I get what you're saying that it's the same vulture with two different wings. Yeah, but exactly it is. I mean, and I don't think it matters really who's probably.

I don't care if it's Biden is senile or Trump that isn't as senile. I think it doesn't matter because the people behind the scenes are actually controlling the party, controlling the White House and pulling the strings. doesn't make a shit who you have in. There are people that can affect change and there are presidents that can go against the people that are really controlling him, but those presidents end up assassinated, right? I mean, the true presidents that really want the best for their people, for the American people, and they go against the lobbying groups, they go against foreign nations that have

influence in the country, they go against terroristic and deep state plans to do all this crazy shit for military industrial complex benefits. Those presidents get assassinated, aka JFK, aka other presidents that have also towed the line or went a little bit astray. And you don't think they tried to assassinate Trump? Yeah. And when it didn't happen, then they had to control him. And they knew that.

And I also think they probably used the assassination attempt for Trump's life for their benefit to say next time we're not going to miss. So you don't get in line with our shit, then we will kill you. And I think Trump knows that. I think Trump understands the power of foreign nations that are involved in our country. I think he understands that likely, you know, if we talk about, for example, like the fact that there are so many Chinese spies in the United States, we continually are looking for them all the time. But I can't even imagine how many Israeli spies are in the United States that know every single thing that's happening in that White House on every single second. And, you know, you go back to all the CIA officers that say every single time Massad or Israel has ever came to the White House or bug it or yeah, or to the Pentagon.

We always find wiretapping or this or that. And that's only what they find, right? There's there's been many times that they have found tapping devices in the CIA headquarters. They've found all this shit. And it usually always comes from Mossad. So the reality of this is like, why would you do that to your greatest ally? You do it for control. You do it because you have the capabilities to put in these devices so where, therefore,

you know what the strategic plans are of your quote-unquote ally, but you just use it for blackmail, you know, like Epstein. Why would a foreign nation use a person like Epstein to control U.S. politicians? Is that more likely, or is it the fact that there are some deep, like CIA type operation that they want to control our president? It seems more likely that there is a foreign nation that wants to control. our politicians than inside, right? Because there's a lot of ways you can do that.

So what I'm saying is that I don't know, you know, as far as Trump goes, there's still a lot to be seen. You know, I think a lot of people right now, they are, I guess, disappointed. They're disappointed because they thought a lot of things that were going to happen are not happening. And then, you know, you'll talk to some people that are still 100% all the way there with Trump. They're not ever going to criticize him.

And you'll talk to them and say, well, he closed the board. order and, you know, he's doing tariffs and we did just take over Venezuela and, you know, all the stuff. But like, what is it that really matters? Like, do we matter? Does it matter about truth and transparency? Does it matter about like our government when Trump said that we were going to go and drain the swamp? What is the swamp? Is the swamp not what we thought it was now? Is the swamp even exist anymore? Is it not really about make America great again? I think what I think part of making America great again is just showing your people that they can trust you. And How you show them that, especially, is with something like the Epstein files, when it has been

one of the biggest conspiracies over the past 10 years and especially coming off of COVID-19 and coming off of all that shit where we didn't trust the government at all. Like we have the lowest trust in government probably in the history of the United States of America. And yet you come in as president and you have the Epstein files right in right in front of you. Whether you do or don't, you got to be honest about it. if you don't have the files, if you don't, whatever it is, like be honest about it and say, look, we think someone has destroyed the files. We think that someone that we don't know who it is is controlling the files. I don't know.

And we're not talking just files. We're talking about actual videotapes. Yeah. And obviously, they're not going to release videotapes of like kids being molested or, you know, raped. But at the very least, like, they could start prosecuting people that these, you know, kids were being sent to be raped. like those are the people that need to be in prison but they care more about you know that's one of the things they said the other day

it's like well Maduro and and that and that country is they're very corrupt they're very corrupt and they have blackmail going on this country and all this stuff and China's using them for blackmail and it was one of the things Nathan sent me a text the other day says I wonder what list of blackmail people we're going to

freaking see first Venezuela or our own blackmail Epstein and I was like yeah that's a good point so guys all I'm saying is is that this Trump administration is a weird, a weird one. It's strange because I think that, you know, I think so many people voted for him. I'm not saying that he's the worst president in the world.

I'm just saying that I think that he is not in control as much as we would like to think he is. Okay. And I hope something gets done about that because I don't know. I mean, if the Republicans want to win in 26 and 28, things have got to change and they got to change pretty fast. We need transparency. We need truth. They still have a chance with the Epstein files. Is it going to happen?

We don't know. Likely not. We're probably never actually going to see the truth. No one will likely ever be brought to justice in the Epstein files. Although we know for sure, we know without a doubt that these young children were being trafficked to elites and politicians and world leaders. and very significant people. We know that for sure. So if none of them get prosecuted,

then obviously this administration is protecting and not just this administration, the other administrations as well, is protecting the elites and the politicians and the higher-ups. Or, as they've also said, this is a matter of national security. We can't release everything.

Why is it national security? Is it because you're working with Mossad? Is that because it was an intelligence operation? Why don't you just say it? Like, just say that this whole Epstein, thing was an intelligence op. Well, they can't say that because then how effed up would that be that intelligence operations from either Israel or the United States is literally sending children to get raped by politicians to get blackmail on them. Like, so they're never going to say that.

But if they did tell the truth, what would likely come out of their mouth would be like, hey, guys, just got to let you know, we did have an intelligence operation. It was mostly Mossad, but, you know, CIA was involved. We did actually go and kidnap children around the world and then send them down to Epstein and then have politicians and elites rape them and we videoed it, photographed it, did all that stuff. But anyways, here's the files. You know, are you ever going to see that?

No, but if they told the truth, that's likely what they would have to say. Well, and that's the same thing that happened with P. Diddy and I think that's why he got off with what he got off with, like nothing. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, he's what, six months? I think he's got to serve for all this traffic and stuff. I think he was just another asset. He was another asset, but he was an asset in the music industry that was kind of connected there.

Right. It's the same kind of thing. They wanted to be able to control musicians. Same thing, Harvey Weinstein, probably some others that have died in Hollywood. I mean, there's actually been quite a few directors and producers, huge producers and directors that have died. Rob Reiner, actually. I know. I just get ready to say his name.

I wonder. You know, obviously his son was supposedly the one that murdered him, but is there anything to that? I don't know. Well, I mean, you know, he hated Trump. And then Trump came out, you know, after his death and was like, yeah, you know, he's basically a piece of shit, you know. I'm sorry he died. I'm not trying to laugh. Sorry, he died, but you know, piece shit.

I don't know what else to tell you. He's a piece of shit. So what I'm saying is, like, the amount of, the amount of control and power and corruption that we have in everything that we encounter on a regular basis, whether it's movies, television, media, everything. Everything is controlled by someone. And not everything and not everybody, but a lot of it. You know, with the movies, the, the, the, the music.

you listen to the the politicians, the mainstream media outlets, everything is being controlled by someone. And that's the shitty part about it. But the reality, too, is like you do have podcasts still out there that are not paid, that are not influenced or are controlled by a foreign nation or A PAC or the Republican National Convention or a Democrat National. There's a lot of influencers right now that are paid by these different factions. And it's pretty obvious, actually, to see who he's.

people are. I mean, you can just go and look at their timelines, go and look at like, go look where they had 30,000 followers, then they had 500,000 followers. And then all the sudden, now all the sudden they're talking about Israel all the time, or they're talking about Trump all the time and debunking anything against Trump. Or same thing happened with, with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Well, and it's the same thing, even with the Israel thing. People were saying they were getting $7,500 a post. Well, they still are. Like pro-Israel. Yeah, I mean, Israel's even came out. We're probably going to do a separate episode on this soon.

But Israel wants to basically take away the United States First Amendment. And they've talked about how they need to control social media. They have to control all of social media. They're going on mainstream media and saying this right now. So when you see people posting all this craziness and it's just a constant thing, don't be surprised. It's just something that they're getting paid for. And you can't hate somebody for work. okay they got to make money as well because that's going to be it for this episode we get a lot of

stuff to talk about like I said we're going to have an episode coming up very soon very very soon this week till next time guys we love you peace out peace out guys