Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Titanic Submarine Lost Podcast | 6 Hours Of Air Left

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

A five-person crew on a submersible named Titan, owned by OceanGate Expeditions, submerged on a dive to the Titanic wreckage site Sunday morning, and the crew of the Polar Prince research ship lost co...ntact with the sub about an hour and 45 minutes later, the U.S. Coast Guard said. The Coast Guard first alerted mariners about the missing sub Sunday night, saying a "21 foot submarine" with a white hull was overdue and giving its last known position. "VESSELS IN VICINITY REQUESTED TO KEEP A SHARP LOOKOUT, ASSIST IF POSSIBLE," the alert message read. On this episode of Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast, we disccus the possible causes of the missing submarine and what the fat of the missing may be... All of this and more on this episode of Titanic Submarine Lost | 6 Hours Of Air Left

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Oh, honey. When you're trying to watch the clock. Hello and welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I am your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hey, guys and gals. Welcome to the podcast. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:00:48 It is June the 21st, 2020, 23, about 9.45 p.m. I'm here on the east coast of the United States. And the time and date, in particular, on this episode is very important. Now, obviously, we talk about corruption. We talk about conspiracy. we talk about all of these things. And at first, we weren't actually even going to do an episode on this. But everyone's talking about this.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Everyone is all over social media. This is one of the biggest trend in topics right now in the world. So we figured we have to at least talk about it, give you the up-to-date information as of right now, give our thoughts on it, play a couple little expert opinion clips on this whole thing. And even more so, just kind of, man, I don't know. We've got to talk about the, I guess, consensus of people. now in the world today. It's like people just don't give a damn about each other anymore. It don't seem like. And especially it seems like rich people. People that are successful, people that are, you know, that succeed in life, that are billionaires, or even people that are able
Starting point is 00:01:45 to pay $250,000 to go on a submarine to go check out the Titanic. There's a lot of people that hate people that are successful. And so we're going to talk about all those things. So there's been red flags that are surrounding the missing Titanic sub years before this discipline. appearance. Now, for those of you guys that do not know what has actually happened, for those of you that literally don't have internet access or, which I don't know how you'd be listening to this, there was a Ocean Gate submarine, which there are five people on board. And what this submarine does is people can pay $250,000 to, I think they leave Newfoundland, you know, and make their journey. I think it's a two-day journey to the site.
Starting point is 00:02:31 of the Titanic wreckage, okay? And so what they do is they have a mother ship that is, you know, basically lets this submarine off. It has a hoist, kind of like a crane system. And this crane system then puts this submarine into the water and then this mother ship, as you want to call it, or a lot of people call them experimental boats or ships. This thing is then kind of like the headquarters, the mission control for this entire mission.
Starting point is 00:03:06 So typically they will stay in the area above where the Titanic wreckage is as this submarine makes its way down to the very bottom of the ocean floor, which is what many are saying is 13,000 feet deep, which is absolutely astronomically deep. You're talking about, I believe, 16,000 pounds per square inch of pressure or PSI. And for those of you that are kind of like me, it's a little over two miles down deep. So if you can think about what a mile looks like in your mind and then double it, that's how far they went to the ocean. That just helps me visualize how far it really is. Yeah, there's a lot of visuals out there on the social media right now that kind of helps you understand how far down this thing actually. is. They compare it to like the tallest building in the world, the Eiffel Tower. They compare it to so many different things. And then he also compared this to the deepest depths that some of our submarines,
Starting point is 00:04:07 our nuclear submarines, some of the most advanced technology, United States military, Russian military, and others have. They can't even go close to this depth, right? And part of the reason for this is for those that don't really understand how the ocean exactly works, obviously the further down you go, the more dangerous it becomes. And that's all because of the pressure underwater. The deeper you are, essentially, you got to look at it this way. The deeper you go is the more pressure of that mass of the water is on top of you. There's a certain point in the ocean to where buoyancy continues to happen, which buoyancy wants to push you up to the surface. The problem is at this depth where the submarine actually is right now. The buoyancy is
Starting point is 00:04:54 negative buoyancy. It's almost kind of like G forces in some ways. You have negative or positive Gs. But at this depth, instead of any buoyancy going to the top or want you to surface, it's trying to push you up. The buoyancy at this depth is only pushing down.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So it is extremely hard to even come up from that depth because the buoyancy, there is no such thing. It is actually negative buoyancy. It is, all the pressure is on you to push you further down into the ocean floor rather than trying to have any type of floating or any that stuff that you would typically think of.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And I hate to mention this as an example, but during the movie Titanic, when the boat was going underwater and all the people were like jumping off or falling off or whatever, the pressure of the boat going down was just sinking the people. They could not get back up to the surface because of the pressure of the boat going in. It's kind of, I don't know, it just reminds me of that. Well, it is kind of, I think it is kind of similar because it is all the pressure, the buoyancy is going down. And so when they ship as big as the Titanic is going under, all that water flow, it's a current almost. It's almost like the same way as if you go out into the ocean too far and you have.
Starting point is 00:06:11 You get that back current or? Yeah, and yeah, you have a, oh my God, why am I drawing a blank? I'm thinking it too. Rip current. Yeah, rip current. Anyways, you have a rip current that is going out, right? It's not necessarily going down, but it is pulling you out. Well, similar in the aspect of if the Titanic is sinking, this massive ship that is sinking under water,
Starting point is 00:06:32 and the closer you are to this ship, well, you are probably going to be pulled underwater because it's just the immense pressure. And it's this physical force that is driving and pulling water down with it. And so the closer you are to the ship, obviously, the less buoyant. you have up rather than down. And this is kind of similar. It's just this anti-boiency, I guess you can call it at 13,000 feet, is just the intense pressure of the water.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It's the density of the water. It is 16,000 PSI, I believe, down there. And so this creates a whole host of potential problems. And this is something that you have to, if you're going to do this, if you're going to have a mission at 13,000 feet below the surface of the water, You have to do everything perfectly. Nothing can go wrong. You have no room for error and you have no room for mistakes.
Starting point is 00:07:28 This is something that has been warned about this particular craft, Ocean Gate, for quite some time. And it's actually a pretty new ship. There have been warnings and red flags that have come up over the past few years since this thing has happened. There has been experts that are very familiar with deep dive in, especially submarine type stuff that has told the CEO and the company, look, you are creating a death trap If you do not test this better If you do not go through rigorous Testing, I believe this guy
Starting point is 00:07:55 Thought he did, but... But it's just interesting in the movie Titanic At the beginning, and I think at the end They actually have a sub Or maybe it really wasn't down there, but they have a submarine With the scientists going down there Going through their wreckage And then Rose as an old lady
Starting point is 00:08:11 Is down there in the submarine. Did people actually go down there In a submarine? Yes, she wasn't in a submarine. Yes, she was. In the movie, as an old lady, going back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Going back, she was in the submarine and they went to the bottom and they explored the wreckage in the movie. I'm just wondering, was that real or is that make-believe? Was it something else like they just sent a camera down there to view the wreckage or did somebody actually at one time go down that far to actually see it with their own eyes? So to answer that question, James Cameron, which is the main guy behind that Titanic movie, he actually has a vessel that has went to, I believe James Cameron's vessel has went to the deepest point of earth, if I'm not,
Starting point is 00:08:56 of the ocean, which is the Mariana Trench. I believe he has been down that far, but he has definitely led an expedition to the Titanic wreckage. But this is a multi-year, multi-well-funded, planned-out mission that has been, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:11 they didn't have tourists on board, necessarily it paid $200,000-thousand-dollar or whatever the case was. But yeah, so right now, guys, there is an international search that continues for this missing Titanic submersible carrying five people. And there are questions swirling around the craft's construction and the safety procedures is company put in place. Now, this submersible named the Titan went missing on June 18th after plunging into the depths of the Atlantic on a voyage to see the wreckage of the Titanic. Now, the Titan belongs to Ocean Gate, which is a U.S. company that provides. Crude submersibles for research, exploration, and tourism.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Wealthy individuals or adventurers can pay $250,000 per ticket for the opportunity to dive more than two miles under the ocean's surface. Now, the voyage aboard the Titan was never without risk, however. Those wishing to squeeze into the submersible roughly the size of a minivan had to sign waivers except in the possibility of injury or death. and before the Titan's latest trek, Ocean Gate, faced multiple warnings from people inside and outside the company, as well as a lawsuit from an employee flagging what he saw as a massive safety issue.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Now, there was questionable construction. Ocean Gate boasts that the Titan features off-the-shelf technology, which helped to streamline the construction, and makes it simple to operate and replace parts in the field. So in a CBS News report last year, Ocean Gate founder and CEO, in Rush, who was on the missing submersible, showed off an off-brand video game controller that he said runs the whole thing
Starting point is 00:10:55 in a largely empty interior except for an assortment of screens and some sort of toilet setup. So this short video clip will kind of help you guys, in this audio clip in your case, will help you understand why the Titanic mini-sub is missing and why this is an accident waiting to happen. Now, this is a video clip, but whatever you guys are not able to see visual, or I guess audio, we'll try to explain it after.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's only a minute long, so listen here. An experimental submersible vessel that does not... Oh, take your shoes off. That's customary. Okay? Wow. Inside, the sub has about as much room as a minivan. So this is not your grandfather's submersible. We only have one button.
Starting point is 00:11:43 That's it. It should be like an elevator. You know, it shouldn't take a lot of skill. The Titan is the only five-person sub in the world that can reach Titanic depths, 2.4 miles below the sea. It's also the only one with a toilet, sort of. And yet, I couldn't help noticing how many pieces of this sub seemed improvised.
Starting point is 00:12:04 We can use these off-the-shelf components. I got these from a camper world. We run the whole thing with this game controller. Come on. It seems like. Okay, so there you go. Now, you don't really have to see what you just heard. They run this thing on a game controller.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It literally looks like a large propane tank that you might see outside of a business. It looks like a round tunnel that you walk in. There's no like comfortable chairs. You know, you imagine millionaires getting into this thing. This is not like a glamorous place to go into. It's just a metal tunnel. is what it looks like with a somewhat looking toilet where you can pee, but it just probably holds your pee.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah. Or your poop or whatever. Yeah, I mean, it's very tight, right? I mean, this is a very tight space. Oh, gosh, I'd be claustrophobic just going in there. Yeah, and so even more so. CBS correspondent David Pogue reported that the Titans hatch is sealed, if you want to get claustrophobic,
Starting point is 00:13:02 by an external crew with 17 bolts, and that is the only way out. There has to be an external crew that comes and unseals the outside hatches, for you to even get out. So there's no way possible that you inside of this craft can actually get out of the craft yourself. Now, obviously, this guy is talking about getting parts from camping world where he put in this thing. And yet he's getting people paying him $250,000 to go 2.4 miles under the ocean. And he said, this is the only button we have in here.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And it was a little green button. And it said it's kind of like an elevator, but, you know, hopefully. And then he showed the remote control. And it looked actually like an extra. Xbox game controller. Yeah, it's actually, I can't remember the company that makes it. But this company makes this controller, and it's kind of like for PC gaming. So, you know, if you ever seen like one of those off-brand controllers, it's not an Xbox
Starting point is 00:13:56 controller, it's not a PS5 controller. It is a off-brand controller that can be connected to certain, yeah, it's absolutely serious. It's seriously an off-brand game-controlling controller. Yes. And this is how the, this is how this submercels. craft is navigated underwater at one of the most deadly depths that you can possibly go. So, anyways. Right there, you have to know as a passenger on this thing.
Starting point is 00:14:24 They got to tell you these things, right? So I think that passengers getting on the sub had to know that they're using a game controller to submerce them down to the Titanic. And they had one green button. I'm sure they go through everything and the safety procedures. Well, here's the problem of this is that you have these rich people that are able to pay $250,000 to get on
Starting point is 00:14:46 this submersible. And it doesn't always, you know, when you hear about an opportunity to go see the Titanic in a research underwater vessel that this rich guy CEO probably built, even though
Starting point is 00:15:02 apparently did not, I think he spent most of his money on the outside construction of it, although it was a very bad construction, if you asked me. Much like Airbus. airplanes actually use now. There are many airplanes now that are using systems that if in the event of engine failure or some other catastrophe, there is a parachute system in aircraft. The Cirrus
Starting point is 00:15:22 Vision jet has it. The Cirrus airplane line has it. There are a couple others that also have it. But in the event of an emergency, basically the top part of your airplane blows off. It is a controlled demolition to where it blows off. And then you have a parachute that comes up. So, you know, and that's in the air. And it takes the whole plane down or do you get out in the parachute? No, no, it takes the whole plane down and it just settles down. So you stay in the plane and the plane comes down with the parachute?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Absolutely. And so, you know, just from the understanding of this thing is bolted with 17 bolts where you can't possibly get out. Oh, my God. Could you imagine? I would feel like I was buried six feet under in that thing. Well, they're buried 2.4 miles under. I know. It's just I don't know how anyone could even want to do that. just knowing you're being bolted into something,
Starting point is 00:16:12 you can't open a door and get out. There's no emergency hatch. There's no way for you to get out. Yeah. Now, the report also noted that the submersible lacks underwater GPS, but instead is guided by text messages from the surface ship. Now, Pogue, who joined Rush on a two-day journey in the Titan, said he had to sign the paperwork that stated the experimental vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body
Starting point is 00:16:37 and could result in physical injury, emotional trauma, or death, right? And so David Polk said on Twitter, remember my voyage to the Titanic last summer in Ocean Gates' homemade carbon fiber sub? They took passengers out again this summer, but as of today, the sub is lost. Coast Guard is doing research, or sorry, search and rescue. So a millionaire adventure who was supposed to go on the Titan voyage
Starting point is 00:17:00 said he backed out over fears that the company was cutting too many corners. Digital marketing tycoon Chris Brown told the son, that he paid a deposit of $10,000 to join his friends, Hamish Hardin, after the two decided to go on the voyage after having a few beers. Now, Harding is currently on the missing submersible. Those are the worst two beers Harding ever had, by the way. He made the worst decision of his life.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So he was actually the one that was told about it and ended up going. Well, they were talking about it. Yeah, I wonder who you brought it up. I don't know. And over a couple beers, like, we should do it. And he's like, yeah, well, why not do it? And then this guy's like, I don't know about this. And then this guy's like, ah, I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Well, the guy that did it, you lost. And the guy that backed out, he lost $10,000. Yeah. He's still alive. But Harding is currently on the missing submersal. But Brown changed his mind after learning how the Titan was built. And he quotes and said, I found out they used old scaffolding poles for the subs ballast.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And his controls were based on a computer game style controller. And eventually, I emailed them and said, I'm no longer able to go on this thing. He added. Now, there was also a 2018 lawsuit, Ocean Gate's director of marine operation, David Lockridge, who was also a submersible pilot raised concerns about the underwater vehicle safety and refused to approve manned test of the early models, according to court documents obtained by the New Republic. Now, Lockridge was fired and sued by Ocean Gate in 2018 for disclosing confidential information about Titan. Now, the former Ocean Gate employee filed a compulsory counterclaim saying he was wrongfully terminated for being a.
Starting point is 00:18:37 whistleblower. So this guy had already come out and said, look, this thing is is not good. It is absolutely not the code. No one should be going on this thing whatsoever. It is a death trap waiting to happen. But yet, he got fired. Then he sued the company. And he, the company said that he was fired because he was releasing, you know, not classified information. No, but. No, he was releasing information that, you know, he was not supposed to, confidential information is what they call it. So, you know, and the reality is rather than addressing his concerns, Ocean Gate instead summarily terminated Lockridge's employment in efforts to silence him and to avoid addressing the safety and quality control issues. Now, so far, as far as all the red flags and everything we're kind of talking about, it sounds like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:29 it really sounds like this guy, the CEO, was really bent on the fact of, man, how much money can I make from this thing? $250,000 per ticket. He has five people on there, one of which is a billionaire, which we're going to get to in a minute. But, you know, this guy is, he's making money. Yeah, a million and a half per tour. He was making money. Right. This is his last money he's ever going to make.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I'm not being harsh when I say this, but it is. And I also heard an article, well, not heard. I read an article today that was very interesting about this whole sub. And I've seen many news, you know, it's all over the place. But anyways, I guess a guy, and maybe it was the same guy you're talking about, went last summer. And the sub made it down to the Titanic but got stuck down there for 20 hours. He was freaking out because they couldn't get unloose from it. And then finally, after 20 hours, it came unloose and they came back to the top.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And I believe the same guy went again for a second time. Yeah, there are stupid people out there. I mean, I get to say, I mean, it's stupid or just, you know, they want. want to experience life because, I mean, look, the reality is there's so many people in today's world especially. There's like, I want to go to the extreme. I really want to feel and experience life. And I want to get down and see things that no one else is going to be able to see.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And I think this was the allure of being able to get in a craft to actually go see a historic wreckage like the Titanic, the movies have been made on and all of this stuff. And then when someone offers you the opportunity and you have the money to go do this for adventures and people that are like, hey, man, how many people are going to be able to do is they kind of compare it to like origin, which is the Amazon Jeff Bezos ship or... Are you talking about the spaceships? Yeah, the spaceship that go up. Yes, because that's exactly what it was reminding me of. It's kind of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:21:18 There's civilians going on spaceships now to go out in space, even if it's just a few minutes, but they're paying a lot of money just to experience the... Something that most people can't experience. Right. That no gravity feeling. the floating in the air, being in space, looking outside, seeing Earth outside the window. You know, a lot of people will pay money for that. But it's just to me.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Well, but you also have to understand how regulated the aviation and space industry is in comparison to submersibles, apparently. Because apparently you and I could go and get a propane tank and do whatever and then just go out there with a boat and just go underwater and, you know, get some people to pay us some money to do this. By the way, guys, that is going to be our next sponsor. We do have a, I'm just kidding. We do have a ocean submersible lined up for you guys that want to sign up. We got 10 people ready to go. We're only charging 10,000, by the way, but we are going 15,000 feet. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:22:18 We're not actually doing that. Yeah, but it is really sad. And what was very interesting about this whole situation is, you know, I heard about this sub, and it went down to see the Titanic and everything, but I've only heard about two people that are on the submarine. What about the other three? Who in the heck are they? Well, we're about to tell you.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And why are they not talking about the other three people? Why are the two people so important? Here's the five people. So Shazada and Sulman Dawwood, they're the father and son duo from one of Pakistan's prominent families. That's the ones that everyone's talking about, I guess. The father and son. Their firm Dawwood Hercules Corporation, based in Karachi, is involved in agriculture.
Starting point is 00:23:02 petrochemicals and telecommunication infrastructure. Those are two. Hamish Harding, a British billionaire residing in Dubai and chairman of action aviation and aircraft brokering company, Hardin paid to join the expedition. Okay. But that's the guy that backed out, I thought. No, this is Hamish Harding. Yeah, Harding.
Starting point is 00:23:23 But this guy did not back out, obviously, because he's on the ship. Stockton Rush, the CEO of Ocean Gate, the company responsible for the submersible and the tour Rush was the pilot of the submersible, Greg Stone, a longtime ocean scientist and friend of Rush, described him as a real pioneer in submersible innovation. And then there's also Paul Henry Nar Gialette, a former French Navy officer and Titanic expert. Nar Giolet has made 37 dives to the wreck in the past and participated in the recovery of 5,000 artifacts. So this guy's been here, he's been there quite often. This is routine for him.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Which is why I don't know why he would have ever went on this thing. Yeah, why would he go on this thing when there's probably other safety, you know, more safe things to go on? Yeah. Now, let's break this down. So the submersible, as we mentioned earlier, has been missing since June 18th. The dive was expected to last two hours, but contact with the support ship was lost after one hour and 45 minutes. Okay, so keep this in mind. The dive was expected only to last two hours, but they lost contact at about an hour and 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:24:31 So there's something to be said about here Because that's not what a lot of people are talking about whatsoever The dive was expected to last two hours To the bottom at 13,000 feet Meaning they would get to the bottom in two hours Yeah, they would be at the Titanic in two hours But they lost contact an hour and 45 minutes So 15 minutes before they were supposed to get to the Titanic
Starting point is 00:24:49 They lost communication But what it sounds like to me Is they're either trapped on the Titanic Which I don't understand why they would not have sent out communication somewhere in that realm. The text message, because that's how they're... But can you text message two miles down under ocean? Yeah, they got that system set up.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I mean, that was the only system they actually really had that was working. But yeah. So 15 minutes from supposedly how long it was supposed to take them to get to the bottom. Now, let's just say that it didn't take them quite two hours. It took them an hour and 45. Well, they were on the bottom and something happened at the bottom. Don't know necessarily that was a implosion, you know, because of a leak or whatever, but we'll talk more about that in a minute.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Now, how much oxygen remained yesterday? So yesterday, the reports are coming out that it is estimated to have had 20 hours of oxygen left. And they may, or sorry, they must be found with about 12 hours or they're likely suffocate during the eight-hour journey back to the surface. So it is a lot longer journey to the surface than it is going down to the actual bottom. down, eight hours up. Eight hours up. And I guess that's because of the water pressure and trying to push up versus going down.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah, potentially. I would guess it would be the pressure against the water pulling up, you know, the friction. Yeah. Now here's some possible explanations for why it's been missing. So Titanic Expedition Leader G. Michael Harris believes the worst case
Starting point is 00:26:21 scenario is that the whole suffered an implosion around 3,200 meters. Harris fears that the Navy won't be able to rescue the passengers. Okay? The other one is, Rear Admiral John Moger, overseeing the search and rescue missions, suggests that the possibility of the vessel being trapped
Starting point is 00:26:38 in the Titanic itself is possible. And this has happened before with a submersible getting stuck under a propeller in 2000, which is what I believe we were talking about, but eventually made its way back to the surface. The other possibilities are the submersible might be floating undetected
Starting point is 00:26:54 in the vast waters, but that's probably less likely because they would have some type of communication. And plus they have those planes that Pisidas or whatever. Well, yeah, but it's still really hard to see. Searching for them. A power loss could have occurred, but, you know, allowing the vessel to return to the surface and waiting for search crews to find it.
Starting point is 00:27:14 So that is a possibility. And what I mean by this, they could have had a power loss at the bottom, complete power loss. And there are three ways, even with a power. There's actually, I believe, seven or eight ways for this thing to make it way to the top, back to the top, in an emergency, right? But there are three ways that it can make its way back to the top in the event of a power loss.
Starting point is 00:27:37 So if you do have both of these things to where this craft makes or has a power loss, wherever it may be, you could have a potential situation to where they could have activated these devices to where it actually did take them back up to the surface, right? but they would have had no way to communicate with anyone in any way, shape, or form if they had a power loss, so they could be just on the surface somewhere. Floating. Floating, but yet keep this in mind
Starting point is 00:28:05 if none of the craft that are circling and actually searching for these things can see this thing, which is also not, I mean, you think how many ever grid patterns are doing out there right now in the ocean, it is still very possible that are not going to see it. They're looking for a green of salt,
Starting point is 00:28:24 But we have to remember that they're hearing the knocking and the banging. Yeah, underwater. Is that underwater? So it couldn't be them banging and knocking on the surface. Probably not. I mean, I would doubt not. And we're going to get into the banging a minute. But, yeah, I mean, either way, they could still die on the surface of the ocean if someone doesn't find them.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Because it is 100% sealed off from the outside auction. You have to, you are, you require the auction inside of the vessel, even if you're on the surface of the water. Why wouldn't they bring a power tool if that were the case and they were on the top? And the only way they were not going to survive, they didn't have oxygen. Why wouldn't you bring like some kind of torch or something to burn your way through to bring up, you know, to burn a hole or something? Well, they should have had some type of escape, some hatch or whatever. Just to get oxygen in there until you are found or rescued. And that's only in the event, by the way, obviously, if it's on the surface.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Right. Right. But I'm saying how are they going to get out if they're dead bolted with 17. dead bolts on the top. They're not. Yeah, I mean, that's part of the problem. But yeah, underwater, there's absolutely no way you're going to escape. I mean, if you're trapped in Titanic, it doesn't matter if you had a way out. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:34 You're never going to make it. You would instantly die. So a fire or flood on the submersible would also be an unfortunate event because it would lead to absolute certain death. Now, as far as now, nobody can save for certain what has happened. But obviously, we talked about the poor build quality of a submersible, but not all hope is lost. On Tuesday, banging sounds were detected from beneath the water in the North Atlantic Ocean, where the
Starting point is 00:29:59 Titanic wreckage is located. Now, sonar devices picked up the sounds every 30 minutes continuing even after four hours with additional sonar deployment. Now, these sounds may be the submersible documents calling out for help, although it cannot be confirmed.
Starting point is 00:30:16 If the submersible is still out there and the passengers are alive, one thing can only imagine that ordeal they must be enduring. Oh, could you imagine? And this is something in that. Sorry. This is something I want to mention that, you know, there's so many assholes out there on the internet that although these people do have money and whatever. And look, I understand the internet is full of memes. But it just shows you, I guess, in a lot of ways, how heartless people are, because no one gives a damn about these people whatsoever. No, they don't value life when they think about
Starting point is 00:30:44 it. It's just like funny to them. There's no real value of life anymore. No. No one really cares anymore about anyone else. I mean, everyone only, not everyone, but I'm saying a lot of people only care about themselves. But could you imagine even being on the rescue team, hearing the banging, the constant banging, and it's probably
Starting point is 00:31:04 in some kind of pattern or something, knowing these people are alive and only have 10 hours until you know, that's a big, stressful situation. And being on that sub, being those people, knowing your air is running out. And the only option you have is to
Starting point is 00:31:20 bang and hopefully people hear you and find you, but you got to know you're like a needle on a haystack in the vast ocean. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Guys, I want to play you a clip here. It's a couple of minutes long, but it's, we're underwater noises that were coming from the missing Titanic sub. Were they actually coming from the sub or was it something else? This is the inside edition piece where they have a couple people on there.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I want to play this to you guys now. Here you go. A glimmer of hope today in the search for the Lost Titan mini sub. rescuers say they heard banging sounds in 30-minute intervals. Sonar buoys dropped into the ocean by Coast Guard aircraft picked up the sound of banging. Could it be the trapped crew hammering on the side of the sub? Rescue crews are now scrambling to locate the source of the banging, with oxygen in the sub expected to run out Thursday morning.
Starting point is 00:32:11 We need to have hope, right? But I can't tell you what the noises are. But what I can tell you is, and I think this is the most important point, we're searching where the noises are. Colonel Terry Virz's friend Hamish Harding, a veteran explorer, is one of the five men on board the Titan. He would know the only way to communicate with the outside world is through banging on the wall, and that sound travels very well through the ocean. The owners of the Titan are coming under fire today for refusing to have the sub-tested by an independent regulatory body.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Bart Kemper is one of 30 engineers who wrote to Ocean Gate, the company behind the Titan, urging them to have the sub-tested. Are you saying there was no regulation of the Titanic? Titan. To my knowledge, that that is a case. I got these from a camper world. CBS correspondent David Pogue was stunned when he saw some of the equipment on board earlier this year. We run the whole thing with this game controller. Come on. Yep, unbelievable but true. The Titan submarine is controlled by a Logitech game controller that you can find at any electronics store. We found this one today for $43. This toggle makes the
Starting point is 00:33:18 sub go up and down, this one from left to right. And could the window on the sub be compromised? A former employee sued Ocean Gate claiming the window wasn't rated to go below 4,000 feet. The Titanic is sitting on the ocean floor at 12,000 feet, three times deeper. Some previous passengers we spoke with say the sub was plagued with technical issues. Every trip I've taken with them, the first thing you hear is we've lost communication. I know that's the key phrase in this story is they've lost communication. Ocean Gates CEO Stockton Rush, who is on board the stricken submersible, seemed unfazed by the safety concerns.
Starting point is 00:34:01 At some point, safety just is pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, don't get in your car, don't do anything. At some point, you're going to take some risk. Alan Newman made the journey last year. He says he was willing to risk it all for a once-in-a-lifetime experience. It's not a Disney ride, right? These are pushing the limits.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And they don't go always this plan. So there you go. I mean, you know, the CEO himself said, look, you know, you can't worry about risk at all. Yeah. If you're worried about risk, don't get out of bed. Don't get in your car. Don't do this. But there are some risks that are more risky than others.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah, absolutely. Like getting out of your bed comparing to going into a submarine that is going two and a half miles under the ocean. That's, you know, the risk is comparable, I guess. Well, you've got to think about this. I mean, you know, everyone says, well, you're going to die when you die, but you know, you have these guys that even, oh, God, mighty. Why am I losing my train of thought right now? But even when you jump out of an airplane, right?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Skydiving. Skydiving. Holy shit. I cannot think of that word. But there are these skydivers. Some of these guys will jump out of the airplane with no parachute. And what they will do is they will meet up with someone that does have a parachute somewhere in the air.
Starting point is 00:35:18 and they will latch onto them, but they want to free fall with no parachute and then make that very, very important connection to who they're supposed to connect with and then connect with them and then they get brought down to the ground. But you can't say that that is the same thing that you're going to do by waking up in a morning, driving your car to school or work or wherever you're going. The grocery store, you do exasperate risk based on what you do. And I think we all analyze and understand that whatever we do and decide to do in life, we do have a risk that we take. And how far are we willing to take those risks based on what we really want to do and what we want to experience?
Starting point is 00:36:02 And listen, to these people's points, if they are that passionate about their exploration, their adventurism and their need and want as much to pay $250,000 to go and witness, Titanic and keeping in mind, a billionaire or some of these people, $200,000 is nothing. It's probably $2.50. No, that's like going to, you know. Or like an amusement park or something. Musement park, yeah. It's like going to an amusement park. But that guy earlier was like, you know, this is not an amusement
Starting point is 00:36:32 park, right? This is not Disneyland. But they were also discussing this over a couple of beers. A couple beers will... Well, two guys were, but... Yeah. But that will, like, mess up your judgment at sometimes, you know? And then once you wake up, you're like, oh, well, I said I was going to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I got to follow through now. Yeah. But to me, like you're saying, it's all about the risk and what risk you're willing to take. Some people are willing to bungee jump. Some people will jump out of a plane. Some people will do, you know, things that a lot of other people would do. I would never bungee jump. I would never jump out of a plane just because that is not my cup of tea.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Well, I've done both those things. And I don't like that. I've done both those things. I've also done ziplines and carnivals. Yeah, I don't even like zip lines. Not doing it. By the way, zip lines at carnivals are more dangerous than bungee jumping in sky. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I remember when you did that. Because that stuff is just made in a day. And there's, you know, no regulations or anything with that stuff. But, you know, it's all what your risk is and what you're willing to take. Yeah, what you're willing to risk. Yeah. So let me give you guys the latest update. And then we're going to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:37:39 No, I want to talk about something else. Okay, okay. But as of right now, as of right now at 10, 25. 4 p.m. East Coast time of the United States on June 21st. We have eight hours and about 20 minutes of air left for them, eight hours. So which means, you know, sometime in early morning hours of Thursday, they have zero oxygen left. And it's actually very possible that it could be less or more than that.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It depends on how much they're freaking out, how much carbon dioxide they're actually breathing out versus how much air they're breathing in. They might have five hours of oxygen left. It could be. And I was reading an article today or reading some. something that somebody said that really that air was only meant for two people, not five. Yeah. Because this is the only submarine that they know that will take five people, meaning that they
Starting point is 00:38:25 don't have as much oxygen for five people. So it might already be out. They might already be, you know, their demise has already happened. We don't know. Now, if a miraculous rescue were to occur, it would be the deepest ocean rescue operation in absolute history. Okay. of that. That's if something miraculous happened to where someone had something that they could do something, right?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Now, the wife of the mission Ocean Gate CEO, Wendy Rush, is the great, great grandchild of Titanic victim, Isidore and Ida Strauss. Wow. So this may be where, you know, the CEO of this passion came from to go back here and try to find this. Now, obviously, there are a lot of things that seem to be wrong with this entire setup and system that he came up with. Where his heart was and intentions on this was probably true, but... But he overlooked a lot of people giving him criticism about this whole operation, saying, you know, this is not regulated. You should not be taking civilians down here. You know, you have no, like anything.
Starting point is 00:39:34 You're using a game controller to basically take people two and a half months. miles underground, under ocean. Yeah. And now, here's some other news on this. So the stepson of the British billionaire, Hamish Harding, who went missing, he posted a tweet of himself at a Blink 182 concert and asked an only fan star to sit on his face. What? Okay, yes, this is absolute sure.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And this is going around the internet as well. So while his stepfather is missing, this has led to him receiving heavy backlash, as many people believe he's showing a lack of remorse. And so I believe it came out with a tweet as of about an hour ago that said that his father or his stepfather would have wanted him to be at this concert. Oh my God. I mean, it's kind of crazy, right? But anyways, that also doesn't surprise me because, you know, anyways.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And so one theory is that Narjilalot, one of the people on board the sub, who has previously made 37 dives to the wreck, may have convinced the crew. to sleep and make a banging noise every 30 minutes. He would do this in order to show rescue teams that the noise had a regular pattern, therefore likely indicating human activity, and also the sleeping would preserve oxygen in the submersible. So this guy is a very experienced diver. He's been down in this situation very many times.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So this is one theory. The image of the missing submersible along with the CEO, who's part of the missing crew, is in this actual post I'm reading now. The image demonstrates how small it is. It's only 22 feet by 9.2 feet by 8.3. So you have to sit criss-cross, applesauce basically, with your shoes off and able to even fit in this craft to go this far down.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Oh, my God, could you imagine? Yes. It does have a carpeted floor instead of seats and barely enough room inside for more than one person at a time to stretch out. There is a toilet with a curtain for privacy, but the toilet is, like, not really a toilet. Like a camping toilet or something, but underground camping toilets.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yeah. Now, it's constructed of multiple different materials that all expand and contract differently, depending on temperature and subs are usually built with using one material for this reason. Now, reports have mentioned that, sorry, reports have mentioned the handles and railings inside the submersible were purchased at camping world. And so while the situation is extremely saddening, The problem is that not a lot of people have faith, I guess, in that they're ever, ever going to come back, right? And they're probably not.
Starting point is 00:42:13 It's very grim. Yeah. This is the one thing I want to bring up. Think about the date that they went under to go see the Titanic. What date did you say? Do you remember? No. June 18th, June 19th.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Does that ring any bells to you? No. What were we just watching? watching before we did the podcast. What? Shuman Resonins. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is when the uptick of that went up to 190 hertz.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Well, yeah, you're right. I mean... Do you not just think that's odd? It is. It's very strange. And guys, what she's saying is, and we're not going to, like, you know... Because we're going to do a podcast about this, and we've been studying about it. But I just think it was very odd that this happened on this particular day in this particular
Starting point is 00:43:04 time in history. Yeah, we're going to actually do a podcast on that, I believe, tomorrow night. But the human resonance is a very, very strange thing. It is the Earth's heartbeat. It is a radio frequency or radio wave is what many calls the Earth's heartbeat. It's also a signal that our brains and our heartbeats and much of what our electro currents and our body actually resonate on is that actual frequency. Much of what happens around Earth. And there has been a very, very strange occurrence that has happened over to past three or four days. June 18th in particular. This thing went missing on June 18th.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You know, there's a lot of weird stuff, which probably has nothing to do with the Titanic, but who knows? I mean, not Titanic, but the Titanic's immercable. It's weird to me. But guys, all I can say is if you're religious, if you are religious, if you're spiritual, pray for the people, you know, listen, we're not talking about this just because it's rich people in this submersible, right? I mean, but we're also not not talking about it because it's rich people in the submersible. There's been a lot of people make a point about these
Starting point is 00:44:13 migrants or whoever it was that was in this boat. There was, I don't know how many of them were in this boat. It was a lot of them in this boat, but there were multiple of them that died. I mean, I don't want to say the wrong number. Might have been over 100, but, you know, the apparently what they're saying is the search party for those people. people was nothing basically. They didn't even hardly attempt to try to save these people. I don't know if that's true or not. And yet you have massive search mission underway for this submersible.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I don't know if that's true. I have no idea. Regardless of the point, though, here is that we're seeing, we are seeing all over social media, heartless bullshit, all over the place about, you know, memes. And I get it. Like, there are things that you can make funny about people paying $250. thousand dollars to go be part of the Titanic
Starting point is 00:45:08 wreckage but it's still people that are going down there for I mean and I get it they're paying too and everybody that they're making a risk I mean it's similar to people that you say oh there was 10 skydivers that died last week okay well I mean they signed up for it
Starting point is 00:45:25 they knew what they were getting in right you know and and by the way that's the same way I'd feel after I died and I'm in heaven well you wouldn't feel that but I think the big difference between this situation and the people that died on the boat, the 100 people, is because we hear about this in the news all the time of like immigrants or migrants coming through the border somehow in a truck dying or on a boat dying. It is so current to us and it's so non-shocking anymore that we're used to hearing it. So it's not like a big, ooh.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah, we're desensitized to that. Exactly. That's the words. And with this, this is not something we hear about every day, so it's big in the news. Yeah. And I think that's the big difference. It's not because these people are rich and these people have no money. It's just because, like you said, we're desensitized with current events and what we hear every day. It's just like the Ukraine-Russian War.
Starting point is 00:46:23 In the beginning, you know, that's what everybody was talking about. Everyone was watching. They wanted to see the videos. What was going on? It's still going on today, but no one is watching the videos every day anymore. Yeah, this is something that is, unfortunately, I hate to say it, it's exciting for people to follow along, even though it is five people's lives that are suffering. And they're going to, this is probably one of the worst deaths you could potentially have. Now, let me explain, by the way, for those of you to don't understand what is actually going to happen to these people as their auction runs out.
Starting point is 00:46:53 So, although I don't know if you want to hear this or not, but I'll just tell you, this is called hypoxia. This is what happens as you start to lose auction. Now, fortunately for them, right, the worst part of this entire experience, if they do not get rescued miraculously, right? The worst part of this entire experience is them knowing over the past two days since they went missing that they are screwed. Most of them are going to know that they have no way of rescue. And so what is really going to be the worst part of it has been, has almost already gone. It's their mind in consciousness. Yeah, and what they're thinking.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But as auction starts running out, it's almost like you just go to sleep. Right. You start, you start filling dizzy. You start passing out and having, you know, shortness of breath. But it's almost like being really, really sleepy. You might have a headache for a while or whatever, but eventually you just pass out. And, you know, although it sounds crazy, people are going to think you're just going to suffocate all of a sudden like you're drowning. Drowning is an instant.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Right. Like you can't breathe. This is more than likely going to gradually kind of come down to where you're loose an auction, lose an auction, lose an auction, and then you eventually pass out. And then after that passing out period, you probably die 30 minutes or so after. Well, it's kind of like being poisoned by carbon dioxide. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's a odorless.
Starting point is 00:48:27 It is a pretty peaceful death. I mean, I guess if you've got to look at it this way, I mean, if you want to look at their outcome this way. I mean, by the way, this happens. If they have a demise, if this happens. If this happens. But in aviation, this has happened, actually. I mean, this has happened many times where certain airplanes lost pressurization.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And they didn't necessarily either realize it or whatever the case is. And you start losing auction. You don't realize you're losing auction. The pilots pass out because of this. And the plane, there's been many cases of this, the plane flies and flies and flies and flies. and flies because it's on autopilot or whatever. And eventually it runs out of fuel because the pilot's passed out at this point. I mean, you're not coming back.
Starting point is 00:49:12 So I guess my point is that the worst part of this has been since they realized that they could die. Yeah, could die. That is the worst part. Just knowing in their brains and having that conscious knowledge that, you know, my life is right in front of my eyes now. and that kind of goes on with the Schumann resonance. I'm not kidding. It has everything to do with your consciousness, your brain, your soul, everything. Yeah, you eventually start, you know, not emitting those brainwave signals.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Your body lacks oxygen. And then your body starts shutting down. But anyways, that's depressing. I get it. But I did want to at least explain it to the point of, like, this is not, don't think of it as four hours from now. they're going to start choking to death because that's not exactly what happens. And there's still hope.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I mean, we still have hope. Hopefully, they're rescued. You know, we don't know. We're not God. We don't know the answers to anything. So all we can do as people is pray for these people. You're 100% correct. But guys, we did just want to come on and give you an update.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Now, we do have a really big podcast coming up tomorrow. We're going to be talking about this human resonance, what all that means. just wait till tomorrow. We will have that out. And we might even have a part two of this with a guest that is going to talk some more about kind of the, I guess, a little wider reaching, the spiritual side of the, yeah, all of that. So we're probably going to have all that. It'll probably be a two-part series. We might release the first part tomorrow, the second part Friday maybe, or whenever they're available, hopefully soon.
Starting point is 00:50:53 But, guys, that's it for us. We did just want to come on and let you guys. know kind of what the situation wants to talk about it. We had to give our opinions on it. We do pray for all the family members that are involved. We pray for everyone that's going through anything. They're dying and suffering. Guys, we love each and every one of you.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And we thank all of you for listening to us. And until tomorrow, peace out. Peace out, guys. I won't be used to be free because I enforce the boundaries around my energy. I won't surround myself with people that would still my inner peace. You got to choose. to be free to and be careful with the people that you give your energy to. They say they love you, but they hurt you.
Starting point is 00:52:47 So make them wait, give them space, tell them patience is aversion. Up to keep some space from you. To tea and I'll be the happiest me that you've ever seen. And I'm a rise from the ground like a rose from the seat. I feel beautiful whenever I protect my energy. Sometimes you got to make space from fake people to breathe. So when you see me, I'm happy this being me. And when you see me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I'm a be the free me because I

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