Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Trumps New Jersey Drone Update | And New UFO UAP Whistleblowers

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

In this episode, we dive into the latest update from President Trump’s administration regarding the years-long wave of mysterious drone incursions, often referred to as the "New Jersey Drones." While the phenomenon earned that nickname, these sightings have been reported not just across the U.S., but around the world. We also explore new revelations from UFO/UAP whistleblower Jake Barber, who recently appeared on YouTuber and filmmaker Jesse Michels' show. Barber discusses, in-depth, the U.S. government's alleged psionic UAP summoning capabilities and much more.

Oh, my mind tight and still the season now. Don't face the time and cut to the feeling. Welcome back to Investigator, podcast where we dive deep into the stories that mainstream media either won't touch or can't explain. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're peeling back the layers of one of the most unsettling phenomena happening right now and that has been happening over the past year.

That is the surge of unexplained drone sightings sweeping across the country and beyond. Now, these aren't your typical consumer drones buzzing over backyard barbecues. We're talking about large formations of high-tech, often silent drones, operate in restricted airspaces, military zones, or even over critical infrastructure. Sightings are pouring in daily from rural farmlands to bustling cities, patterns that defy simple explanations. Some of these drones exhibit flight capabilities that go far beyond the commercial technology that we can do with precision, endurance, and coordination that feel otherworldly.

But here's where it gets to even sure. stranger. Alongside these drone reports, people are also witnessing orbs, these glowing, pulsing spheres of light, hovering, darting, even interacting with the drones themselves. Is this a coincidence or are we looking at two pieces of the same puzzle? Could these orbs be controlling the drones, observing them, or are they part of something even bigger, something we're only just beginning to understand? Tonight we're not just asking questions. We're going to be connecting the dots from military coverups and surveillance programs to the possibility of advanced technologies. maybe even non-human technologies.

We'll explore what's really going on in the skies above us. Guys, welcome to the show. It is February the 3rd, 2025. Now, do you just want to say, cut to the filling by Haysen featuring Gamma Skies. Is the name of the song. So many of you ask us what our intro or outro songs are. That is the song.

It has been a very, very busy month and what a few days into 2025. Obviously, 2024 was crazy. We did not know what was going to happen with the election. We didn't know even after the election what was going to happen leading up to the inauguration. We had these mass drone sightings over New Jersey and Pennsylvania and all across the United States. And all the Biden administration wanted to do was basically just say nothing to see here. Now, now that the Trump administration is back into office, obviously Trump back in, I don't know, probably two or three months ago, said my first day in office. I will make sure that I tell you exactly what is going on with the drone situation.

Now, Trump's team has responded, which we will get into a video about that in just a minute. And then we're also going to play what Trump directly said at Mar-a-Lago in reference to the drones. But in addition to the drone talk tonight and the update on what people are seeing, because let me tell you guys, we've had thousands of emails and messages from everywhere. And we're talking about the United States, South America, Canada, the UK that have been seen. sending us videos extensively sending us videos and we try to look at as many of them as we possibly can uh there has been a few that look like airplanes to me and then there are definitely some that are obviously not airplanes they're obviously also not commercial drones they are doing very weird things there's even some videos i saw for example last nine i looked at a video sent from

tennessee uh this guy was looking out his window um saw a orb in the middle of the woods like a a bright light and he's miles in the woods. Saw this bright light and then he saw like two or three circling little orbs around the main orb. And you know what that reminded me of obviously, M.H370. Yes, it's just crazy what you can see in the sky. Normally, when I'm outside at night, I'm looking at the sky and I'm purposefully looking for

or things that are not normal in the sky. But just the other day, I finally got chat out of the house. And we went to Costco for our, very short trip. But on the way home, we saw two orbs in the, well, it was almost sun, uh, sunset. Yeah, it was close to sunset. It was probably about an hour and a half to two hours till sunset. But we did see.

At first, Chad's like, look, there's an orb or something. That's not looking right or whatever. I'm like, no, Chad, there's two of them. And as we were looking, they look to get bigger. And I, it almost looked like there's something metallic to one of the orbs as it was growing. And then we went down. and then there's a few trees, whatever.

And then we were looking right to the right again, and it was gone. Yeah. And it was kind of interesting because there were two separate shiny things in the sky. I know it wasn't airplanes because as we got past there and all the stuff, there was nothing you could see there, no controls, no nothing, looked at flight radar. And then also there was one particular, this one set of orb. I say set, but it was one orb and then it went to two or three. It looked like towards the end and then disappeared.

But this is what people were. seeing all across our skies and it's not just at night. This was an hour and a half to two hours until sunset. Yeah. It was still sun. Yeah. In the sky. I was like, oh my gosh, because I usually see it at night. Absolutely. So yeah, this is what we're going to be talking about tonight. I know so many of you have just asked for an update. We're going to talk about what the Trump team has said. What is what are they saying? Are they actually revealing new information about the drones as of now? What do we think these things actually are? And then we have had a lot of people that have come out as whistleblowers. There's been a lot of very, very interesting interviews. I know the,

the Bledso interview just finally came out with Sean Ryan, although Sean Ryan said that he was never going to release this interview. He, for whatever reason, I guess he did not agree necessarily with what Chris Bledso was saying on the podcast, but we'll play just a short clip from there. I do encourage you guys to go watch the, the interview in its entirety. Chris Bledso makes some very disturbing, I guess you can say predictions in the Sean Ryan show. And so obviously there's going to be a lot of people when you hear Bloodsoe and what he says in a Sean Ryan interview, you're going to maybe probably understand why Sean Ryan might not have released the episode. But at the same time, I mean, if you're going to fly someone out there, you're going to go through this trouble,

do all this. It's not about what you're saying. It's about what this guy's saying. And I think that everybody, not everybody, but especially Bledsoe should have a voice. He has been very extensive, very believable in a lot of cases with his story about the lady, about his experiences with extraterrestrial or the phenomena that he experienced. I believe it was on his property and then also still experiences with orbs. And so we're going to talk about all of that. But let's get into, and by the way, before we get into this, I want to go ahead and tell you guys, we do have an X.

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You guys know that we're not very far from being banned there, but you can still follow us over there. If we do get banned, it's not a big deal because we don't have a ton of followers on TikTok anyway. We can just make another one maybe potentially. So in recent months, reports of mysterious drones have flooded in from various states, notably New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, residents have observed these unmanned aerial vehicles hovering over residential areas, critical infrastructure, and even military installations. Now, the sheer volume of these sightings, over 5,000 reported cases, and this is just 5,000 cases that at least mainstream media or government has reported on, have left many questions

the origin and purpose. Now, the federal response has been one of cautious reassurance. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt recently. address this issue. And I'm going to play this video. It's actually the video of her addressing the issue, but also, this is Jimmy Doher's response to this. It's a very short clip, but I want to play it to you anyway. And then we'll address how she responds to this. Listen. From President Trump directly, an update on the New Jersey drones. After research and study, the drones that were flying over New Jersey in large numbers were authorized to be flown by

the FAA for research and various other reasons. What? Many of these. drones were also hobbyists, recreational, and private individuals that enjoy flying Jones. In meantime, in time, it got worse due to curiosity. This was not the enemy. So when you say this is not the enemy, so the drones were from our own government. And I don't know if you've seen who's the enemy of the people, but it's our own government. So maybe you didn't watch the JFK hearing today. But our own government has turned on us because they've been captured. So to say that they're not the enemy, You mean they're not a foreign enemy.

They were an internal enemy. And the fact that they were scaring the hell out of everybody in the United States on purpose. And they knew they were doing it. The FAA knew they were doing it, which all, you know what that means? That means that the Biden administration knew. And they weren't telling you. So once again, the biggest purveyors of lies and misinformation is the government. Second is the corporate media.

And a distant third are randos on social media. Just so you know. Trump says drones over New Jersey. Jersey were not the enemy. Okay. If you haven't seen the way the government has been treating us lately, they've been treating us like they are the enemy. Jay Stewart says Trump reveals truth about the drones UAP, UAP, UFO phenomenon in

New Jersey. The drones that were flying over New Jersey in large numbers were authorized. They were not only knew. They authorized them. They were authorized by the FAA. Why didn't Biden just say so? Why didn't they immediately tell you that the FAA, the FAA approved it? Why? Why did they want everybody crapping their pants?

As she said, the FFA, FFA, which you remember the FFA, future farmers of America used to have those in high school. I mean, who knows, Biden could have got the FAA to authorize the drones, which is why they actually knew nothing about these things. He was not sure about the acriman. Yeah, acronym. And Sherry is not sure about how to say acronym. I did say it. Acronym. Acronym. Acronym. Anyway, so here's the whole deal with this, guys. Obviously, you have the situation to where the Trump administration is saying that these drones were either FAA authorized or they were hobbyist flying drones or whatever the case may be.

Now, I will say this. We've talked about this with Ashton Forbes about Amherstreet 30 and specifically about advanced technology. A lot of the advanced technology potentially that the U.S. government has that technically they could utilize against their own people. the U.S. government themselves do not know about. So let me rephrase that just for a moment. I shouldn't say that the U.S. government has. What I should say is the technology that United States government contractors have that likely most of the people in the United States government have no idea about.

That is likely who potentially was piloting these drones. Unless you listen and go back to the Liberger story, the guy that blew himself up allegedly, out front of the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, then he tells a very different story, which he says that these drones were Chinese drones, and this is a very, very dangerous situation. Now, you've got to look at this a couple of ways.

Either A, the Trump administration has zero clue, actually, what really went on during the drone invasion, we'll just call it over New Jersey and Pennsylvania, that actually is still happening in many places across the United States in particular, or he has someone that he is a, appointed, which he has appointed a new FAA guy. I think he's appointed a couple of people in that kind of region that could be able to answer some of these questions, including potentially

Pete Heggseth. But I just wonder, obviously, if we think about the fact that 90% of the government has no idea what the 2% of the military contractors are doing under private authority and basically with no restrictions or no oversight, then how are they actually getting these answers? Are they going into Lockheed Martin? Are they going into Raytheon? Are they going into other clandestine dark groups? And are they looking at what they're actually doing? Are they, you know, and obviously the Biden administration, the deep state, which you got

to remember, the Biden administration was puppets. They were nothing more. Joe Biden was a puppet. Kamala Harris was a puppet. I'm sure most of that cabinet were puppets. And so they were being controlled by someone in the back room, right? They were, they were, you know, on these little strings. and they would be controlled and told what to say exactly how to say what.

And the danger with this, and this is something that we talk about very often, is that when you have these military contracting companies that have zero oversight and they are building weapons potentially far more devastating than anything this world has ever seen, and we're talking about far beyond nuclear capabilities, we're talking about either potentially or crafts that can move, you know, maybe at, at breakneck speeds or beyond the speed of sound, beyond the speed of, I doubt light,

but, or have some type of weaponry on these things to where they can use, uh, either zero point energy or semiconductor type, you know, science to be able to teleport things. If, if military government contracting companies have these or,

sorry, have this technology and the government doesn't know about it. And still the Trump administration has no over. site over it, then of course they're going to come out and say, well, this is just FAA, you know, authorized drones. Right. And my question is, you know how we have flight aware and we can usually see most planes in the sky except for military unless they want to be known.

And usually it's in high traffic areas where they should have been known in Virginia, Washington, D.C. area or whatever. Do they have some kind of software that shows who's operating what drug? And if they don't, maybe they should have some kind of software so that we know who is operating what drone. So we know it's from United States of America or China or Russia or wherever else, Iran. You know, it doesn't matter. But don't you think we should have some kind of software that tells us, okay, this is this drone and this is coming from this country? Well, yeah.

But I mean, obviously other countries around the world are going to. to do and utilize every technology they have, that you're not going to have a software that's going to tell you if Chinese drones are in your airspace. I mean, that's exactly what they do is to avoid detection. That is what the United States and China and everybody have done for years is build craft that avoid detection of our best systems to detect them. Exactly. So obviously, the advanced drones, potentially far more advanced than anything we've ever seen,

could easily avoid detection. But obviously, they weren't avoiding the naked eye detection because thousands of people were seeing them. It's not like they were trying to. to be undetectable. I think the difference here is is that these drones could be undetectable when needed to be. So if they were able to be seen and then all of a sudden they disappeared like many people saw or when these things appeared to be in orbit first and then transition into an airplane,

which many people also saw. And listen, there's definitely people out there that could have saw landing lights at first where it looked like a bright light in the sky, that then when the airplane turned, it looked like an airplane. That is a very real possibility. But there also have been many people that have been trained. either pilots or aviation experts that have seen these things transition what they believe into some type of drone because this thing would look like it was an orb in the sky for quite

a while and then it would look like it transitioned into something else and then it would hover or do some crazy number and then disappear so we've seen this from aviation experts and otherwise so yeah there's likely i mean i'm not saying there's not satellite technology you asked ashton forbes this and he'll tell you that you know every part of earth and our skies and space are monitored 24-7. But you also have to understand that every country, especially China and the United States, are often and always doing everything they can to develop technology to, you know, evade those systems.

That is exactly the goal for every country as far as their defense and their and their offense to, you know, in a wartime scenario. This is, for example, this video right here is what Marjorie Taylor Green said. This was just on January 15th. of 2025. And she was talking about as she was inbound on an airplane to D.C., this is what her pilot came on and said when they were landing. Check this out.

It's flying into Washington from West Palm Beach yesterday afternoon. And we're approaching into Washington, D.C., making our way to land at D.C. And the pilot comes on, and he says that he's having to reroute and come in and land from another direction due to unauthorized drones over the White House. I mean, you talk about shocked. Everybody's looking around like, what? Did we actually hear the pilots say that? I immediately sent a message to Homeland.

We've got to have a hearing on this. We need to investigate this. We need answers immediately. But I want to take this to another level because the news came out today, Sean, and I'm sure you saw it, the Chinese drone company, DGI, which really dominates the marketplace, the majority of the marketplace with drones. They just lifted their geofencing restrictions on their drones, meaning that their drones will, they will now be able to fly over our military bases.

They will now be over to fly over the White House. And this is all because of the Chinese company DGI has lifted that geofencing. This is a direct threat to our national security by China because we know companies in China are owned by the Chinese government. And I'm calling for swift action with our incoming administration. We should ban these drones. We should not allow them to be flown in our airspace. They should not be sold in the United States of America. This is reckless and dangerous and it's an endangerment to our national security.

Yeah. No, I just, the idea that you have to ask somebody to do this is nuts. It's like, this is protecting the people 101. But just walk me back through this because I'm, when you say they undid it, so the company, this Chinese company previously, what had like embedded technology, they didn't allow the drone. So if you bought one, you couldn't fly it over a military base of the White House, but now you can. That's right. And so before it had technology, it was geo-fencing.

So drones could not fly over secure locations like military bases and like the White House. But the news came out today that DGI has now lifted their geo-fencing restrictions on their drones. And now- The Chinese are lifting their own restrictions and our government's not doing anything? Bingo. Now remember, Sean, let me laugh at everything. I can't believe I'm laughing. This is insane. Yeah, it is insane.

But remember, we have to remind everyone at home that this is the Biden administration is in charge right now. So don't start blaming President Trump. This is the Biden administration, Democrats, full control. And this is what is happening in America. And they're leaving a national security disaster for us to clean up starting on the 20th. And we could... All right, so there you go. That was Marjor Taylor Green talking about that.

And, you know, the reality is that the reason why Biden would not have done anything about this and off probably the reason why China lifted those restrictions was just in hopes that someone has been watching the Ukraine and Russia war and even the cartels and how they're utilizing drones over in Mexico, which we just got a memo about yesterday or the day before where there was a memo sent to the Border Patrol that said that there has been high level leaders of these massive drug cartels in Mexico that have authorized their cartel members to utilize drones, weaponized drones, probably very similar to the DJI or whatever from China, to be able to carry explosives and then also attack our border patrol.

And so likely China was like, well, let's just, you know, let's take these restrictions away while Biden is still in. And let's just hope someone understands that and sees that. And maybe they try and utilize some type of thing. Now, during the inauguration, I don't know if anybody noticed, but Trump's motorcade had these drone blocking technologies, at least four or five or six vehicles, to where these vehicles had this equipment on top of them to where they could jam signals from drones. And obviously, they also got the memo that says, hey, this is a dangerous situation here.

Someone could utilize a drone to try to blow up our, to try to blow up our motorcade or even potentially use them in our inauguration. It makes you question whether or not Trump just to move the inauguration indoors for cold weather or obviously there was a massive threat also, especially with the Chinese Communist Party authorizing drones like that. Yeah, I think he did move it in for cold weather. I don't think it had anything to do with the outside threats. Otherwise, you would have done that. But I think that it went better indoors. Just like she was saying, her pilot said they had to reroute their plane because there was a drone in the way. Do you not think there should be some type of database that at least

commercial airlines have a database where they are seeing these drones and where they're coming from and what they are? Well, yes. But, you know, especially there's a reason for, and what I believe is likely going to happen, especially as far as commercial drones go. Right now, you have an obligation. If you are flying drones commercially, right, for commercial use, you have to go through this pretty extensive licensing process, right?

I mean, and it is an FAA part that you have to actually go through, take a test, and you know all the rules and regulations. What I think is likely going to happen if they try to regulate drones even further because of all this is that everyone that buys drones potentially may have to go through this licensing procedure to even buy a drone. That's number one, what I think. Number two is that in that licensing procedure, you are not ever allowed to fly in controlled or restricted airspace. There are also various things on a drone that restrict you from going a certain altitude. I believe there's even technology in drones that do not allow you to go into certain air spaces, or especially obviously restricted air spaces, White House or governmental infrastructure, all of this stuff.

There's already a lot of protocols and procedures in place that try to protect this type of thing. But a lot of people are looking at the world and they're seeing how people are utilizing drones, for weaponry. They're weaponizing drones. And we're seeing this with the cartel in Mexico. We're seeing this in Ukraine. We're seeing this likely also. I think we've already started seeing this in the Middle East. And now if you think about terrorist organizations that potentially are inside of the United States, they're going to try to utilize this as well. Obviously, there's definitely going to be something done about the DGI drones that are from China. I'm sure the Trump administration will do something about that pretty damn quick. And likely China is probably

already reversed that. I don't know for sure. I'd have to look that up, but likely reverse that not long after Trump came into office because they're not going to play with the Trump administration like they did the Biden administration. But yes, drones can be very dangerous. I do think we need drones. I do think we should have drones for sure. There's a lot of people that make a living off drones. It enhances content like crazy. I was actually just talking to a buddy of mine that does boating videos, Trip. Now, Trip, you might be listening out of there. But Tripp uses drones. all the time. Oh, yeah.

And it gets great content. There's amazing stories that can be told on drones. And there's so much content that would not be as good today if it wasn't for drones. And even in the movie industry, the movie industry and all of those are utilizing drones like never before. They used to have to utilize helicopters, which now is a lot cheaper for them to do so. And oftentimes, the movie drones are much larger. They're obviously probably licensed and they've got permits and all this stuff to utilize

those type of drones. But yeah, I mean, it could be definitely a big issue for sure. New Jersey drones, for the most part, I do not believe, were commercial drones that people went out and bought. A lot of these things were massive. They acted in very weird ways. They disappeared, reappeared, seemed like they were coming from or orbs orbs or dispensing them in some cases.

We've seen all these videos. And there's been various people that know what they're looking at that says, this is not aircrafts and these are not commercial drones. So what are they? And the question is, why is the Trump administration basically coming out and saying, don't worry, nothing to see here unless, you know, the military contractors are like, hey, look, guys, this is our freaking drones. But someone needs to shut the hell up because we're FAA, you know, we're FAA authorized to do what we're doing.

We're practicing this or this or this. And I'm sure the Trump administration is like, okay, oh, we get it. Okay, cool, cool. Because, you know, they're all military, pro-military, pro, whatever, which we all are. but at the same time, you have to understand that you're dancing with the devil. These military contractors potentially, in some cases, maybe the devil. Now, let's just talk about drones for a second in commercial versus consumer. I wonder, can consumer drones go above a certain altitude where they're actually affecting commercial flights?

Well, that's the thing. I think they can potentially if they're flown in, like, for example, if you're, were like right on the flight path of a certain airport and you were trying to fly your drone up in the flight path, I don't know if those restrictions for sure would allow that air, that drone to fly on that flight pattern. I don't know, but I think possibly. Now, with that question being said, commercial airlines, are they able to see these drones on their radar with their ADSB or their F-CAS? T-CAS. T-CAS. So T-CAS. Sorry, T-CAS. Typically the other aircraft also, needs T-CAS or traffic collision avoidance system.

So no. I mean, potentially, I guess they would be picked up on radar by ATC. But, you know, all these things could go bad very fast, right? If you have a drone that is in a flight path. But like I said, I think that drones have technology on them now. And I could be wrong. You guys out there can send us a message, if I'm wrong, Investigator's Podcasts at Protonmel.com.

But I think that you're not able to fly them, like right in controlled airspace. I don't know for sure. Because if you are, you should not be allowed to. That should be an automatic geo-fencing on every single controlled airspace at a certain altitude, a certain area. And I'm not positive about that because I've never really flown a lot of drones. Right. So I'm not sure.

But if that is the case, there should be some kind of database or software telling other commercial airlines or pilots or even private pilots, this is a drone. And it should tell who the, you know, what the drone is or where it's going or whatever. Yeah, well, you don't know where drones are going typically, you know, right? I mean, unless you file, you know, unless you're able to start filing flight plans and all this. And now, there are certain scenarios. I know, like, especially with the licensing procedure, they tell you, like, if you're going to be operating anywhere near a controlled airspace, you have to number one, get permission. You have to file some type of plan, like a flight plan.

You've got to say exactly what you're doing, what altitude from when to what, you know, from when to win, the whole nine. Now, I don't know how that's restricted as far as if you try to start. flying that thing outside of that space and you start going into the controlled airspace, I don't know if that's restricted on the drone side or not, or I'm sure the airport kick, you know, cannot restrict. It has to be drone related. But it's also, you know, obviously is why China making drones that are sent into the United States is a danger.

Well, and let me remind you guys that there was a weather balloon or whatever, a Chinese weather balloon is what they said, that transfers all across the United States. And we didn't stop it. That's why I'm so concerned about this. It's because even if the government says, oh, okay, it's authorized. It's here. And even if Trump is saying that, I still want to know who's authorizing it and who it is. And what are they doing?

Yeah, for sure. No, I agree. And, you know, obviously with all these airplanes going down lately, with all the drone situation stuff going on, you know, there's a lot of people. There's no wonder there's a ton of conspiracy theories when a new airplane goes down or, some new craziness happens because no one knows what to believe or who to trust anymore. And I don't want to say that we shouldn't trust Trump. But, you know, like I said, and I've said this the whole time, you've got to hold every administration accountable.

And I go back to this Project Stargate when Trump brought in Larry Ellison and Sam Altman, which are potentially two very, very bad people. And even today in a press conference with Trump, Trump was continuing to talk highly about Larry Ellison. And this guy was essential in basically creating a software for the CIA to spy on everyone, you know, with Oracle in videos that we have talked about in the past and other podcasts where Larry Ellison is saying at some point in time, we're going to be in this state to where you can't do anything wrong because we're going to know everything you're doing.

And it's not to say you want to go out and do something wrong. That's called the surveillance state. That's called China. That is called a communist party to where you no longer have any privacy. And we're already very close to that now in the United States as it is. So just imagine if you have these drones, which no one knew what it was. And now you have two administrations coming out and saying, well, they're FAA authorized. So you don't have to worry about them.

But we should have to worry about them because they are craft from our government that we have no idea what the hell they're doing. Are they surveilling Americans in that certain area? Are they able to hear your phone calls, your text messages, which they can already do that, by the way? But are they able to hear you if you go? outside and speak in your backyard, away from yourself on technology, or any technology at all. There are reasons why the American public needs to know what the hell these things are. And I understand the government just thinks that because of national security, because we got to protect the country, that's always been their excuse.

But typically it's their excuse to surveil you and control you more. And I got to say, and I, listen, I obviously voted for Trump. I think a lot of people voted for Trump in this election. but that does not mean that our government is still not potentially out, and especially a large part of them to either control or surveil you. And that's, you know, that's a pretty obvious thing. Now, I want to get to a video real quick. There's a lot of people that talk shit about Jeremy Corbell.

Jeremy Corbell has leaked a lot of videos or at least been in contact with leakers to where he's released a lot of these videos to mainstream media, such as the Tick-Dak video he's helped in, Commander Fravor. And I know he was a part of, especially with George Nguer, Knapp. George Knapp was the one that broke the story on Bob Lazar. But here's Jeremy Corbell. This is what he had to say about the New Jersey drones and the response from the Trump administration and what he thinks about that response. Listen. Joining us now is my friend Jeremy Corbell to react to some of the news around the New Jersey drones.

It's great to see you, sir. Thank you for joining us. Good to see you. Absolutely. Jeremy, we want your reaction here to the White House coming out with a statement on the New Jersey drone phenomenon. Let's take a listen and we're going to get your reaction. And before I turn to questions, I do have news directly from the president of the United States that was just shared with me in the Oval Office from President Trump directly, an update on the New Jersey drones. After research and study, the drones that were flying over New Jersey in large numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for research and various other reasons. Many of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational, and private individuals that enjoy flying Jones. In time, it got worse due to curiosity.

This was not the enemy. A lot going on there, Jeremy. So in your expert opinion, what do you make of this? Yeah, I mean, the explanation is fundamentally nonsensical. I think we all had high hopes for a new era of transparency. Look, for me, on the UAP topic, but also, also just on a bunch of topics. We're not seeing it in that statement.

Let me just give you a little break down here. The FAA would not approve research flights without communication with facility heads. And same with military bases. Did the FAA authorize the ones that buzzed Langley 17 nights in a row? Did they authorize the untrackable drones that infiltrated three U.S. and UK air bases? And that was going on for weeks. You know, did the FAA authorized flight restrictions if they had originally authorized these drones? It's absolutely nonsensical.

And I'll tell you, I get reports from people that are actually guarding these critical infrastructure sites. What they're seeing through their flare and through their thermal, it's not just traditional drones. And so this is an issue of transparency. We had high hopes. We're not getting it. Remember, these drones were not affected by anti-drone technology. Yes. So these just weren't approved tests.

It's just a blatant, flat-out lie. Yeah, I mean, research and various other reasons. Like, listen, I'm a skeptic personally. So I would be open to an explanation that's like research and here's exactly what's going on. And here's why it's confusing to people. And here's why the drone detection technology didn't work and why the flight space wasn't authorized, blah, blah, blah. But I don't think anyone skeptical. not skeptic, whatever your thoughts are about this situation is going to be satisfied with research

and various other reasons. Yeah, and look, this is not necessarily something that we have to be skeptical about where they come from. This is just a matter of fact that we have unidentified craft that are loitering over sensitive military and nuclear installations and also power stations. So this is something that we should address face on and we should be honest about it. It's just that the answer they came up with is absolutely nonsensical. And that's the problem. Right. Especially when you consider all of the authorities involved, the military bases. And that's what I want to talk to you about here, Jeremy. Can you put this answer in the context of all of these other UAP incidents that we have seen over military bases and then the subsequent

an explanation somewhat, month and a half later, that vague, you know, oh, it was research, it was authorized. Does this fit with the pattern from the U.S. government? Yeah, it does. And this is something back in 2019 when we had 10 Navy warships, over 100 mile radius, swarmed by over 100 unidentified. And that's where George Knapp and I provided so many different types of footage showing that this is an issue. Everybody on the ships we've spoken with that we've brought forward. This is something. something where you have these incursions. And this has been going on for a long time. You know your history, you guys. The shutdown of nuclear base shutdowns of airports. We're not getting truthful

answers. And that's what we were all hoping for. Again, this answer is just so nonsensical. It's almost comical if it wasn't a serious issue, you know? Right. What are some of the ongoing transparency issues that you're hoping are going to be resolved ultimately under this administration, Jeremy? Well, you know that I'm obsessed with the UFO and UAP. issue. So I'd like that to be resolved. We tried to do that in Congress a number of times. You know, I think the American public deserves, or not even deserves, it is our right to have transparency within government. And we're just seeing, I hope we're not, but it appears we're just seeing the kind of same status quo. As things unfold, a lot of promises are made.

Remember, back in the day, the Clintons tried to get this information out, John Podesta, tried to get this information out. Ground truth on what UAPE. UFOs are what they represent to humanity. And it's just, we're not seeing that right now. That's a fact. Jeremy, can you also give us your reaction? It's been some more whistleblowers and others that have come out, you know, government psionics and others. I'm just curious for your take on the matter and how that fits in the broader scheme of whistleblowers coming forward, trying to give information to Congress and to the government. And then at the very same time, we have the White House here with a traditional, obviously BS explanation about the New Jersey drones.

Right. And so that's what we're saying. seeing, what we're seeing is we're not going to get the answers to the traditional means we were hoping, unfortunately, you know, through the Senate, through the House, just through the White House in general, we're not going to get those answers. So how are we? It's going to be on journalism. And that's okay. That's what we're all doing is trying to get to the bottom and core truth on all this. So I'm very hopeful for journalism right now. A lot of people are throwing down, a lot of people are getting involved with this issue. So we have to do good. journalism, no matter what the White House does. Absolutely. So we'll end it there, Jeremy.

And thank you so much. And listen, Jeremy, me, us, we tried to warn you. We could do it the easy way, but catastrophic is the way that you guys want to go. So be it, right? I mean, have there. We've tried to give them the option of coming forward, of disclosure. They are leaving it to the whistleblowers and the eyewitnesses and other stuff to come forward and to force the hand. If that's the way they want to play it, fine. We can continue to fight if we need to. So there you go. And that was Jeremy Corbell's take on the response from the Trump administration. And it's more of the same.

And I agree with Jeremy a lot here because very weird response, right, from Caroline Levitt, the press secretary now for Donald Trump. It's just strange that, you know, you promised what you promised. And you said, hey, I'm going to have an answer for you day one when I become president. And then that's what you get. And I want to remind everybody, by the way, exactly. what Trump said when he talked about the drones. And this was leading

up to, you know, his election and he said, look, I promise you guys, on day one, I'm going to let you know what the deal is with the drones. Story that kind of disappeared at a very suddenly, do you have any idea what ever happened to the drones? What happened to drones?

Well, you said that you knew the, you thought the government knew what was happening with these drones over New Jersey. There were some by Bedminster. I don't know. They were over Bedminster a lot, so I can imagine. I'm going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration, because I think it's ridiculous that they're not telling you about what's going on with the drones. And it's not only with me, Glenn was telling me today that in Virginia they have drones all over the place too, and nobody's reporting it. I don't know why they're not. Do you want to say something about that?

Just one quick comment, which is we are home to the largest naval base in the world in Quantico, and we house a lot of the SEAL teams. have a huge national security infrastructure. And now for two years running, we have had drone incursion over secure airspace, and we still don't know why. And I think that's absolutely unacceptable. And I think President Trump and the new leadership coming in, I think will work diligently to understand who's behind this and what we do in order to stop the digital surveillance of all of our secure infrastructure.

Do you think of it? Well, I can tell you this, while we were dealing with a terrorist attack in New Orleans, we had drones being flown over our nuclear reactors in Louisiana. And we brought that attention to the FAA. We've been asking the FAA to give these states the ability to mitigate these drones, and it's sitting on some bureaucrat's desk. And that's real. Nobody knows.

They don't want to talk about it. Go ahead. Governor, you're going to say? I was just going to say we have drones in Wyoming flying over our infrastructure, as well. And it's incredibly frustrating that we not only have no way of knowing what it is, but nobody knows how to deal with them. They don't want to talk about it, and nobody knows why. They don't want to talk about it. That could be us sending drones. I hope that's the case, us doing it and doing research, and maybe they don't want to talk about it from that standpoint.

I hope it's not an enemy, but we're going to find out on the 21st, the day after, you have to give me a little time for the inauguration, but shortly thereafter, we'll give you a report on it. We'll tell you exactly what it is. They know. So he's saying it could be research. It could be ours. Hopefully it is. What kind of research is that, right? When you're overtaking controlled air spaces, also interacting with commercial airliners, you go back to even Ryan Graves, which is a fighter pilot and Commander Fravor. And, you know, I don't, I don't at all think those things were necessarily drones. I think there or some type of orbs or whatever.

I don't know exactly. But it's just interesting how all of these governors that are sitting with him at Mar-a-Lago, this was after his initial press conference, then he is asked again, and I believe that is, that's Peter that's asking him from Fox News. And he's saying, oh, they don't want to tell us. I don't know what it is, but I'm going to make sure I'm going to give you a report. We've got to know this. And all the governor's like, yeah, this is happening all the time over our infrastructure,

our nuclear infrastructure. Why would the FAA or even, you know, companies such as Raytheon, Lockheed, or companies we don't even know about these military contractors, why would they consistently and always be over our military bases, especially the ones with nuclear capabilities? It doesn't make sense. And this goes back years. We're not just talking about recently. We're talking about we have had incursions over military bases where nuclear weapons have

been housed since nuclear weapons were in existence. And shut off at times. Shut off. Yeah, or even also engaged at certain times. And, you know, then you got to think about like the Randall Sham Air Force Base incident. And you go back to Jake Barber and some of his medical experiences he's had when he was working with these things. With, you know, the egg-shaped UFOs that he talked about that he transported and some of the things, the various medical conditions that he got.

I mean, he's even talked about skin falling off, hair falling out, heart conditions now that some of the Randall Sham Air Force Base people that experienced that UFO that night have the same type of things. But then you also got to think about if if these things, right, that the FAA is authorizing, they're doing it also in the United Kingdom and, you know, places abroad. You think about all of the people that I believe it was, is it Gary Nolan or who's the doctor? I don't know, whoever the doctors, but various doctors have, they have looked at the brain scans, whether it be MRIs or various others of military members that have come in close counters with some type of crafts. Maybe they would call those drones, but that has either killed them or permanently disabled them

for life. And then the government didn't want to do basically anything for them. If this is our government or our military contractors that have these vehicles that what I think a lot of the military or government doesn't even know about, that's a very dangerous thing. And I've said this before. If you have these military contracting companies that have or these things that move at speeds like they move and potentially could even teleport things, you go back to Dr. Stephen Greer where he talks about these craft that were piloted potentially by U.S. government officials that went down to South America and picked up or abducted people. That's a whole other thing as well. There's just so much to talk about here.

and I do want to quickly go to Jake Barber. Now, Jake Barber was on the Jesse Michaels show, and you guys should go check out the full episode. It's a three hour episode or three plus hours. And in this episode, Logan Paul is on there. Logan Paul, many people know Logan Paul, Jake Paul. Logan Paul apparently, I guess years ago, went to some place that this guy had a VHS tape of an actual UFO encounter.

And supposedly he was never going to release this. supposedly Logan Paul recorded this on his phone when they were viewing the video in person. And so I guess that's why Logan Paul somehow is involved in this topic whatsoever. But most people hate the fact that he's even involved in this. Because if you go to the comments where they bring, Jesse Michaels brings in Logan Paul, everybody like, why the hell did you bring Logan Paul? I'm going to, I'm deleting your channel forever because you brought him. I do want to quickly just let you know what Jake Barber said in this extensive interview about the

Jersey drones and what his take on this was. Listen. And it's a hot topic, you know, touching on the New Jersey thing, we were just out there. We were assigned to support the DOD and the FBI task force that was trying to be stood up out there, serving essentially as a hidden hand like we normally are dispatched to try and come in and offer something in order to declare this a hazard to. public safety or to find criminal and tender criminal actions so that the FBI could have a basis. Jake, what did you find out? Well, that's where I'm going.

I'm happy to tell you. The entire world is extremely confused. It feels like the highest levels of government are confused as to what is going on. Okay. You know, our first day there, we got there. We were primarily focused to the activity in and around or above and around, I should say, Picatinny Arsel, which is a government weapons installation, weapons focused, let's say, or weapons-centric installation.

First night there on the ground, we get our OPs set up, and we're watching the skies. We're an organization I work for now, one of the founding members of, it's called Skywatcher, and we specialize in aerial intelligence. This is completely autonomous and an independent venture. It's full of guys like me that have worked in. an official capacity for the government. We've brought our tools and talent and experience and are investing them into this private company and then trying to help the government where we can and also provide a window for the public into this subject and these technologies. So that being said,

we show up in New Jersey, first night on location, within 30 minutes over Picatinny Arsenal, all these orange orbs come into existence right over Picotinny Arsenal. Trying to do timestamps and how long they were there was difficult because it appeared about 40, 40, 45 minutes at a time, which is consistent with some traditional large battery-powered drones. But what we can't tell is if that was the same drone or it was disappearing and reappearing. And that was the sensational language that was used more often. What it could mean is that they were turning their lights off and on, and that's why they were disappearing and reappearing.

but you know. Were they only at night? Only at night for us. It was between like 1700 and midnight. So from 5 o'clock until about midnight is when we monitored or captured most of the activity. And so, you know, the problem with that whole thing out there is most of the data being collected and the reports were coming in were from unqualified observers on the ground using visual spectrum. So what I mean by that is humans looking up with their eyes and going, bro, what's that? it's also a very busy airspace around there so there's airplanes there's helicopters i mean

if you really wanted to red team that situation what i would have done is i would have put a bunch of glow sticks and helium balloons and tied them together and then sent them up in the air and watch people just lose their shit because you you wouldn't been able to discern and then you shoot them with you know uh beby guns until they pop and disappear like there's so much room for fuckery in that situation that you it's hard to cut through the noise what we were observing, because we are qualified observers, was not fuckery. There's something very concerning over Picotany Arsenal. So the first thing we looked at was, okay, these are probably large, like, drones that we know the classes of that are available out there in military

inventory and in some civilian inventory that was turning off its lights in route and then on RTB, which is illegal. So there's our case for breaking laws right there. If this was in FAA controlled airspace, when a drone leaves the ground, first of all, UAS, an unmanned aerial system has to have all the FAA approved lighting systems that any other aircraft does, and it has to have them on when it leaves the ground. It's also limited. You have to be a licensed operator, and you're not allowed to fly above 400 feet. These were lights off over 400 feet, over Picatinny Arsenal, just sitting there,

and no one's doing shit about it. And weren't they sitting there for five hours plus in some cases? Sometimes. Sometimes longer. And then so, but we still don't know if it was just lights going off or they're popping into place. Because while this is going on in the airspace south of there, we also were running a program that's more, we're running operations, let's say, that's more, um, more attuned for the UAP, the unidentifiable phenomenon. on. And we had UAP class stuff popping up to the south of there, cutting in from the outer atmosphere and hovering into place and going back into space. What do you mean you were running

operations more attuned to the UAP? We were looking for that. We were expecting that, looking for that and making sure we were paying attention for things that fit the box of possibly being, well, and UAP is a very safe word. UAP is the words are very, you should say UAP more often because it means unidentified anomalous phenomenon. I mean, I don't know how that becomes as concrete as there's aliens and spaceships flying around because it's the opposite of clear or conclusive. So UAP should be a safe word. So yes, it was UAP and we were looking for UAP.

We're looking specifically for things that we couldn't identify and clearly didn't fit into a box. The following nights, our plan was to get airborne and in our helicopter and get a closer look legally under the guidance of the FAA's air traffic control. What was interesting about the situation is that there was a TFR setup over Picatinny Arsenal a month prior, like before Thanksgiving. And the TFR is a temporary flight restriction, which turns any airspace into highly restricted airspace on a case-by-case basis. And so someone had the four-sides or the reasoning to set up a TFR to restrict drone activity over Picatinny Arsenal

weeks before Thanksgiving. We're there, you know, around Christmas or a little before Christmas. So this has been going on for a month in the area. And what's interesting about this TFR is it didn't restrict general aviation traffic, and only restrict UAS, unmanned aerial systems. So what that means is any member of the general public who got in their civilian aircraft with the pilot's license could fly through that TIA. with no restrictions. But a drone could not. So they were carving out for drones. Well, the problem

there is an aircraft could have an incursion with these drones so everyone was pretending weren't there and was ignoring it. And now you have an accident or an incident, which is a safety risk. And when you get into safety risks for things that fly around in the air, things get serious really quick. And that was the biggest problem and the biggest thing that wasn't being addressed that we were trying to make sure people were paying attention to was that to say there's no public risk, that's a really low-hanging fruit, not the most exciting detail to anchor to in this thing, but it's an anchor point where we could start digging and forcing people to give more concise reports from the DOD side, from the local law enforcement agencies, because nobody was working

together there. There were over 59 local law enforcement entities working, not coordinating there. We had FBI. We had DOD. We had private partners on Picatinny. Some from legacy programs that are very popular were there with their very fancy tools and toys. Everyone's doing their own thing. Were you called in specifically because of your UAP retrieval experience? I wouldn't say my retrieval experience per se, but our team of guys were,

second to none, and I'm not being overly proud in saying that. So we were brought in, um, more so on the behalf of DOD to help take a look at things and, and really contribute any way we can. But we found there was a lot of, there wasn't a lot of coordination going on. The powers that be, that be really don't know what's going on or very few do. And they're clearly not communicating with the rest of, um, our leadership and the public. I mean, it's a great sample. of why this whole thing is so confusing is the New Jersey drone incident. What did Trump mean when he said it's probably not adversary? We know where the garage is.

We could go into the garage. Our military knows where they took off from. If it's a garage, they can go right into that garage. They know where it came from and where it went. God, you're asking me to know what Trump means. you're just asking another guy that's watching that on his phone like you. So what was your net assessment, just for the average person who's extremely confused? Based on what we know from previous incursions,

McDill and Langley Air Force Base this year as well, that there were Chinese nationals that were taken into custody. That's a very big problem because if they are state actors and it's an act of war. And so how do we respond to an act of war? Like, there are no good options because either we look weak and vulnerable because we don't respond or we do respond in what? Now we're at war with China, which the world cannot afford. So there's there's a counterplay. Now, if I was a red team member, when I look at it this lens, what I would do, if I was working, if America was my adversary, I would fake a Chinese invasion.

it would be a false flag. I would make it look like China was doing this, and I would hire, you know, the billions of people that live in China aren't all singing the same song. There's plenty of disgruntled people there that are for hire that work for other organizations worldwide and our criminals in other capacities

that aren't in align with China's intentions. So I would hire a Chinese national or someone from China and deploy them to make it look like China was causing the, incursion in order to start a war with the U.S. for a number of nefarious purposes. So it could have been a false flag like that. The biggest problem with shooting them down, everyone's like, why don't you just shoot them down? Well, this is pointed out a vulnerability we've known for a very long time

with why there's a whole category of contracting in the U.S. called C-UAS or counter-UAS systems is because drone incursions are a problem because you can't shoot them down. Because where they are most likely a problem is over a highly populated area, like here, Dodger Stadium, let's say. You can't just shoot them down because now they're going to fall and cause damage to people and property. So what do you do? Like, you really can't do anything unless you can chase down who's operating them and take them into custody. Okay, but do you think any of these were genuine non-human intelligence, any of these drones? You mentioned the Chinese special. Yes. Okay. I do. And so why do you think that? Because of the way they transitioned in

and transitioned out because of indications we got within our observation operations, the way we observe and collect data. That would be my guess, is I do think that there was an NHI component to this combined, which is what makes it really confusing. You know, the biggest mystery of this whole thing is the mystery. Like, there shouldn't be a mystery. This is a very simple thing. There's something in the sky.

Go figure out what it is. Find out who's flying it. It's over, day one. Right. This continues to happen over and over again, and we still are pretending like we're confused. Which points to something that is far superior to us technologically that is ephemeral or weakly entangled with our reality and popping in and out and not something that is easily or prosaically understood.

And in the case, I think what makes this so confusing is in the case in which it is genuine, All right, we're going to stop right there and just kind of break down some of what Jake Barbara says here. Now, for those that do not remember who Jake Barber is, essentially, I want to point out Jake Barber was a spec ops guy that flew for the Air Force. He was involved in very high-level secrecy type missions to where they would go on crash retrieval or some type of retrieval programs. He believes they were non-human intelligence retrieval programs.

in specific, the News Nation interview where he talks to Ross Colthart, where he's talking about when he would go on these retrieval programs and they would harness these egg-shaped type, I guess you can call them UAPs. And during this time when he would be involved in these missions, he would have this overwhelming sense of various emotions. There would be all of these things that would happen to him during these missions. and it was overwhelming to him in many cases. And it wasn't just him.

There were many people that also said, look, I think, you know, Jake's credible. I was a part of his team in this way or this way. I know that Jake is not bullshitting. He's not out here just trying to make a name for himself. Jake Barber is highly credible when it comes to what he's reporting. Now, also leading up to the Jake Barber report on News Nation, you know, this is something that, you know, Dr. Stephen Greer talked about. There's going to be whistleblowers coming forward.

Jake Barber is obviously one of them, a few others that also worked with Jake Barber. I believe there's others in the pipeline. But when this guy is sitting there talking about, he went to New Jersey, he saw these drones, he has various ways of, you know, basically watching the sky that likely we do not have. He even said that they were called in by the Department of Defense. This is under the Biden administration, keep in mind. So if these are FAA authorized drones, why are they calling in specialized teams, number one, why are they allowing them near? Picatinny Arsenal and why are they utilizing their specialties to try to figure out what the hell these things are?

Why are they also lying to the American public if they are lying? Maybe they weren't lying. Maybe they actually didn't know what was actually going on. But the bigger question here is, is that how does Trump's team all the sudden know that, oh, don't worry. This is all FAA regulated. No worries here. Who the hell is saying that from the FAA, especially like what, a week and a half, two weeks

later because obviously most of the people you're going to ask were the same people that were working at the FAA during the time and under the Biden administration. And then also you're likely not going to get any answers from any of the private contracting companies. So are you just coming out and saying this based on what you've been told? Because, and that's the thing. I want people to also understand Trump is not a young chicken. He's a pretty older president.

And so things that like, for example, you may go and talk to your mom about, I can call my mom or, you know, some older person, Sherry, you can call your mom and try to explain some shit like we know about what we're talking about. And they are clueless. But if you tell them some or they hear something that's just like kind of like an easy explanation, they'll just kind of go with that. Right. I mean, is that one of these situations or not?

That's the question. Well, it sounds like to me, because Trump said he was going to find answers and let the public know. And obviously he's not going to do that. So it sounds like to me, this is a question. something that's secretive and they don't want the public to know what it is. They said it's authorized and it's research and various other things and it's partly consumer drones or whatever.

Yeah. And it's FAA approved. How, if it's a UAP, how are they FAA approved or if it's a UAP from another planet or whatever, how is that FAA approved? Well, it's not. But that's the point. That's what I'm saying is. like they don't know what the hell's going on.

And this is just yet another example. How many presidents have tried or supposedly tried to disclose or look into or research any of this shit? Basically every single president. There's been some that has been closer than others. Eisenhower is one of them. JFK and the JFK UFO connection was another. Trump has always been one of those that every time he's been asked about UFOs or

UAPs or any of that stuff. He always just basically brushes it off and says, yeah, I don't really believe any of that stuff. But, you know, there's pilots that say they've seen weird stuff. You know, even Elon Musk is never. He's always one the opposite of like, oh, no, no, don't worry about that. I've never seen a UFO, never seen a UIP, never seen nothing weird in the sky whatsoever at all. And maybe he's telling the truth or maybe Elon's an alien.

It's just one of the two. I think it's the second part. I mean. But to me, it's either something they know and they don't want the public to know or they have no clue. Yeah. It's one or the other because I feel like Trump is pretty transparent. parent. He loves the camera. He loves to talk on the camera. He likes to talk about what he knows and how he's winning. And obviously, he can't talk about that in this circumstance. He had to have his

press secretary come out and tell the findings because it's not impressive to me. We're not hearing anything that we don't know. We still don't know what these things are and we want to know. Yeah, I mean, and also the other thing, too, is like, you got to remember, as Jake Barber is saying, And, you know, they issued a TFR over Picotany Arsenal. The TFR, though, did not, it did not implicate general aviation or aviation in general. It actually, actually only drones, which is very interesting. And so why would they do that if they were flying their own drones, but they put up a TFR against drones? That makes zero sense.

So did they know that something potentially was going to happen? Then I go to the China thing. Now, although I don't think the Chinese thing necessarily is the, the, the, answer to the drone situation here. We also have to remember the amount of land that has been bought up by China, by Chinese quote unquote company, by these Chinese nationals. We got to go back to how many Chinese nationals have come through illegally into our country. We're thinking about 40, 45,000 of those.

And many of those were housed. They had a very elaborate system on how to get into the United States. They didn't have to cross Mexico. They were in South America. They went by a boat to California. they just entered the country. And this is about 40,000 of them. Many of them, military age men likely, maybe they were tech experts, maybe they were drone experts,

maybe they were whatever. We don't know, hackers, you name it. But at the very least, we know they are here and who are they? What are they doing? But then also in addition, in that, the land. And oftentimes, a lot of these Chinese land is bought up and it's very close to military bases, especially our nuclear facilities or highly sensitive facilities. So is the drone situation a collaboration potentially with the Chinese nationals and the land buyup

around these military bases? And is that a thing? And the only way that we might, the first time we really, really heard about the drone situation potentially being Chinese was from Matthew Littlesberger. And Matthew Littlesberger is the guy, there are those that that don't remember. It was, I think January 1st or the second, whenever it was. he blew himself up in a Tesla cyber truck that was rented in front of Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas.

Allegedly. Allegedly. And then supposedly his DNA didn't come back to his kid. And, you know, the wife came out and said, that's bullshit because there's no way that's possible. So is he actually even the one dead? Or do they have him kidnapped somewhere and holding him hostage? We don't know. But he at the very least sent a letter to this guy, Sam.

and the Sam guy, I guess, has this Instagram channel to where there are whistleblowers that can come to him, speak or say something about their command staff or whatever. And then as Sam and the Instagram channel's job is to kind of post that or, I guess, unveil that. So this Matthew Livelsberger guy goes on, or sorry, he sends an email to Sam a few days before the incident actually happens. And this is a very short clip, but I just want to remind everybody, what that email said in particular because one of the first things it talked about after he is allegedly dead was the drone incident and what actually was the cause of that. I want to play that.

This was on the Sean Ryan show. Listen. Read the man of the email. Yep. So this email came in on December 31st at 1042 a.m. That is Tuesday. He said, in case I do not make it to my decision point or onto the Mexico border, I am sending this now.

Please do not release this until one January and keep my identity private until then. First off, I'm not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification. What we have been seeing with drones, he puts that in quotes. He says drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China and the East Coast, but throughout history of the U.S. Only we in China have this capability. Our Opsin, that's Operation Center, our Opsin location for this activity is in the box below.

China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force, and they are using it similar to how they use the balloon for SIGA and ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned aircraft. They are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House that they

wanted. It's checkmate. U.S. government needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them in what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast. I've been followed for over a week now from likely home. homeland or FBI and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won't because they know I am armed and I have a massive V-bid. Let me pause right

there for a second. So he says a massive V-Bid. When I was talking to the FBI yesterday, they didn't know what a V-Bid was. I had to explain what that acronym meant, literally. You fucking serious. I said it twice and he goes, you said that word V-Bid. Can you tell me what that is? For your audience, a V-Bid, for your audience who has not been in the GWWR for the last 20 years, A V-Bid is a vehicle-borne, improvised explosive device. In layman's terms, a car bomb, what we saw at Trump Tower. So, backing up, he says, I am armed and have a massive V-bid. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone,

and they are definitely digitally tracking me. Here's where he gets into the other stuff. And this is where we had to redact the names. Well, your producer redacted the names. I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during air strikes in Nimruz, Province, Afghanistan, and 2019 by the admin, DOD, DEA, and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings. 65 were struck because of Civcast, that's civilian casualties, that killed hundreds of

civilians in a single day. US fora continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR. It was supposed to take six minutes and scramble all aircraft and CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes. but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover up with US fora, an agent redacted of the DEA. So I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. So there to go.

And that's basically all of the email. We've had an entire episode on this, and I've had a lot of time to think about this. I don't think that's Matthew Littleberger that sent that email. I don't think it's him at all. I think it's the government that sent that email to this guy, to release it. Well, in his first car was not a Ford Mustang. It was something else, too.

But the thing about that is, right? Okay, so the thing about that is for most, like, I guess for most people that, you know, if you look up on records on Google or whatever, someone's first vehicle, because you can do that. And if it doesn't say a Ford Mustang in a certain year, then you're like, okay, well, that's obviously bullshit because, you know, that's what he said. but for intelligence officers or people that are high up in classified positions, they will put on their, it's basically kind of like a survey or a questionnaire. When you get into a highly classified position and you operate in situations to where you could potentially be captured, a prisoner for or otherwise, you oftentimes put in bullshit information that you know that you can recall. all that is bullshit, though, that has not come up actually what your original vehicles or other

stuff was, but it's in this questionnaire that most all of your intelligence agencies have. So if you have Navy Sils that show up to rescue you and you're in a, you're in a weird situation, you say, what's your first car? What is this? What's this? It's not necessarily your first car, but is what you put on that questionnaire that you are supposed to memorize with your life, whether it's bullshit or not. That is a thing.

You guys can look it up. and it could be anything from your favorite color to your first kid's name to any of this shit. And most of the time, it's not accurate. But that's for a reason. They just remember the question and how they answered it. Yes. Because the reason they do that is because there are oftentimes that people can gain that information from someone to utilize that against them, whether it be in negotiations, whether it be text messaging, whatever. So they put bullshit information intentionally on their, on their forms to where if they do get captured,

they're not going to base it on who they actually were because that's easily accessible information that a, that a capture can gain access to. So are you saying that he probably put the BS Ford Mustang. Yeah. As the answer. And the government would have known that. And the government had that intelligence to say that. Yeah.

Well, they had the intelligence to say that. the weird thing about it was is the fact that they didn't put what was publicly recognizable of what his actual first vehicle was. So why would you do that, right? Why would you put that on there? And yet he would send an email saying another vehicle. And by the way, we don't even know for sure that this Ford Mustang, would that year is put on that form or not when he went into intelligence or went

in that spectrum? We don't know. But it's just that is a possibility. And even further, why would the government put that or why would they released that and put that in an email, I don't know. But it's just weird because this guy has kind of a decision point. He's like, I have a decision point whether I'm going to Mexico or whether he didn't really say what the other option was, potentially this.

He already said that he had a V-B go to Mexico or die, basically. Then he talks about the gravidic propulsion systems. And he's talking about this is China. This is China. We know for sure because I was involved in these programs. I know this for sure. And he mentioned the weather below. that went across our United States.

Yeah. In that letter. Well, I mean, either way, you know, it's very interesting because I've often thought it's like, is this him or is it not? We do know that the day he died, that his, what was it, his signal account was changed. Right. So they obviously had access directly to his signal account. They likely already.

All of that. Yeah, they likely already had all the access to everything. They were already tracking him. He knew that. they knew every single move he was making. But, you know, that still makes you wonder why they would not have moved on him in various times that, for example, when he went out to charge the cyber truck, he had done that quite a few times, just even on camera, that he was out charging the cyber truck. Why would they not have moved on him then? Why would they not have just shot him, especially if they knew he had a vehicle-borne device, a car bomb, yeah, to wear, you know, explosive device.

why would they not have moved on them then? But I still wonder if that was actually him in the email. Because you got to think about the false flag potentials of this. Like trying to blame China for the drones, trying to blame everything on China to where we can get into this situation. Even Jake Barber talked about there are various reasons why you might want to blame China for this drone incursion. To where there's a false flag to where it's very similar back to Operation Northwoods. When the chief or with the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Yeah, came to Kennedy. they said, hey, we want to start, we want to do terrorist attacks on our own people. And we want to blame it on Cuba so then we can invade. And then JFK was like, what the hell were you talking about? He completely adamantly disagreed on this. He went against them very heavily against Operation Northwoods. And that could be why he was assassinated. But I think it was, I think it was various things.

I think Kennedy was not the president that was good at all for the intelligence agencies. Yeah, he's like a Trump. Yeah, he was a disruptor. He was someone that, um, that, um, that, really wanted to dismantle what he believed. And I think Kennedy really knew. Yeah, I think Kennedy knew about the deep state. I think he knew how demonic and devilish that they were.

And there were various instances of why he was like that. Even his UFO and there's a lot of UFO connection to Kennedy as well. So there's all that, right? But I go back to this. I don't know if this was Livelsberger that freaking emailed this. I'm not saying it wasn't. And if it was Livelsberger and he thinks that he knows that it was China, then you got to go back to like the land buys and the, you know,

next to military bases and all this shit. But also at the same time, I would think that if you had this massive amount of drones in the United States that were Chinese drones, especially now that the Trump administration's in, that would be an all-out type situation for a wartime scenario, especially if you're over nuclear military bases, you're over all this shit.

There would be zero question that this would potentially be an all-out war. Now, we don't know if that's, you know, maybe what's going on behind the scenes, hopefully not, right? But I just think even going back to Jake Barbara, he said, I witness and we witness our various teams, witness, there was a lot of stuff that looked like non-human intelligence. This is not drones. I don't think there's anything that we have or had. They would basically transform, disappear, do all of these things.

And by the way, it wasn't just Jake Barber and his team and others that were saying this. There have been various people that have said this. There have been aviation experts. There have been governors and police chiefs and, and, and, sheriffs and all this stuff that have witnessed this across the country. And yet they've all kind of been discounted just by saying, oh, you're either looking in an airplane or a drone. But all these people are saying, no, this is not what is going on.

But if this was a letter that he didn't actually write, that means the government were, they were still threatened by what he knew and what he could say. And if that's the case, I don't know why he would not be more like Edward Snowden. Yeah. that goes to a different country and then spills the beans. Well, because, I mean, look, it's not very, it's not very cool to just go to other countries, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but if it's life-saving for you and you have a lot of beans you need to spill and

you think it's for the benefit of the public and for, you know, for your country, then that's what you do. To me, Edward Snowden is not somebody that is a bad person. I think he was being a whistleblower to let us know that our government was spying on us. Yeah, I mean, he helped create part of the program of how that happened, right? Right. But, I mean, it's just like today Donald Trump was asked. President Trump was asked in the press conference.

What do you think about Snowden? There are some people that say that he should definitely be released and there's a lot of people to heavily disagree. I don't get involved in that. How do you not get involved in that, especially when it comes to a pardon? Like, make your decision. Because what he did do was for the good of. the country. And so there's, and that, and that's why there's a large part of this. And I want to make

sure everyone understands this, although we voted for Trump, and I've been a supporter of Trump, and Sherry's been a supporter of Trump. We are supportive of our people, number one. And what is in our best interest for our people, I think, is always and always should be number one. There should never be a politician or president over any person ever. And so. Because they're, they're supposed to be working for us. Yeah, exactly. And so as the more you say, especially Trump's second term, I'm already seeing a little bit. He's going more towards the government aspect of it. It's like government versus you, the people, you know, yes, he's doing a lot of things, right?

He's done a ton of stuff in two weeks. And I'm not trying to disappoint anyone that likes Trump because I like Trump. I voted for him, right? It's just what I'm saying is that we got to keep a careful eye out because there's just a lot of stuff already just very weird. I don't know if potentially some of the administration has been captured. Maybe we don't, maybe there's not good advisors around him. there needs to be things that are very important things that he should either not be doing

or should be looking at more closely, especially when it comes to pardon in Snowden or especially a Project Stargate, the EI thing, to where it could be, it could literally bring on a mass surveillance state just like China. That's the two major things that you have an issue with is the Stargate thing, the AI thing. Well, that's just because of the players. Hopefully when Trump brings in, you know, like for example, and I have a lot of faith in Cash Patel FBI. director. And Ratcliffe, is it Ratcliffe? Or who's the CIA director? I don't know, whoever.

Yeah. But anyways, I have a lot of faith in the cabinet people he's bringing on, but they still have the entire system under them. And so there's not one person necessarily that's going to make a massive difference in some ways. I mean, hopefully so. But they're going to have blowback. They're going to have hell to pay when it comes to them trying to stop the government agencies from controlling the lives of the people. And so we got to hold the people that are accountable accountable. I mean, that is to include P. Heggseth and Cash Patel and Christy Noam. And they're trying to hold everybody else accountable to not weaponizing the DOJ.

Yeah, yeah. It's pretty crazy. I mean, there's a lot of crazy stuff here. But I want to get to this just for a second. When we talk about all these drone things, right, we know that drones and UFOs and UAP have been going on forever. And so that's one of my things always, as far as when we talk about advanced technology, is how long this has been going on.

This is not just the past year or two years or three years. It's been going on for thousands of years, potentially. And especially hundreds of years, I know the first reports are 1930s. Even if you go back to like the Battle of Los Angeles where these UAPs and UFOs showed up over Los Angeles, I think this was the 30s, if I'm not mistaken, or 40s. I can't remember exactly. I think it was 30s. And the battle of Los Angeles was these craft that overtook the entire city.

It was all over main, it was all over all the newspapers, the mainstream newspapers, Los Angeles. And I don't know if the Los Angeles times around, but whatever newspaper was back then, they had literal pictures of this, these massive lights in the skies, things of which we've never technically seen in our lifetime in some cases. And so this was going on even back then. but even before then, even biblical studies, even historical text, even the cave drawings, this has been going on forever.

And it leads us all to question like what the hell is going on now. Is this advanced technology or is just more of the same of what we've always seen? And are we ever going to get answers? We don't know. But if you go back to some of the psionic assets, right? That was Jake Barber talked about in this Jesse Michaels interview. we're talking about psionic assets so that somehow either connected or communicated or had some type of insight to the UFO UAP phenomenon.

Like a mental telepathy type thing. Absolutely. And we've heard about this quite often, right? There are people that can potentially summons orbs. We see it in the C-E-5 events with Dr. Stephen Greer and many of his people that practice this. There are some people that say this is demonic or devilish. You know, when Congressman Tim Burchett was asked this actually, in an

interview. And he says, what do you think about people that, uh, that practice these C-E-5 things where they summons these orbs? He's like, well, it sounds demonic to me. And I can tell you that if you ask most Christians, they will probably also say the same thing. But we also have talked about on the show many times before. We have quite a few people that listen to us that do this. And a lot of the people that do this actually see these things show up in the sky. And oftentimes, over the course of months, as they do it more, their life gets disrupted in various ways. It could be sicknesses, headaches, mental disorders, fighting or with their husbands or family. There's a lot of weird stuff that happens.

And it's happened to us quite frequently when we have seen or felt things or, you know, it happens. Yeah. And it is a disruptor. Yeah. I think it is for sure. But I just want to get this quick clip real quick about what Jake Barber says about psionic assets within the various programs that he's been a part of. listen.

And there was a psionics team working that night. And so I don't know whether, you know, it's one or two things. Like either there was something with a very powerful talent inside of that thing that was connecting its soul or spirit to me as I was flying, or one of the psionic assets got its consciousness trapped in that thing and somehow was communicating through me. And so what are psionic assets? When we look at collecting data, one of the areas that we look to collect data is through a psionic asset, which is an individual who's trained in remote viewing, psychic abilities,

telekinesis, that type of thing, which is basically through a number of different, protocols can transition into a place where they are highly sensitive to their environment from the point of view of consciousness, through a consciousness field. And that is not a woo-woo topic. I know I'm just throwing it in, but it's so matter of fact to me that it's the same as saying night vision goggles. Like it's there. We use it's used both on the summoning side and the data collection side.

So you're saying humans summon. these UAV. There are two types of summoning that can be done that we've proven works and we're still working with. There's machine-based summoning systems and there's man-based summoning systems. Machine-based summoning systems are, without going into details, are signals and energy systems that can be turned on or activated that summon UAP activity. By the way, what he's talking about here, if any of you guys have ever watched Skin Walker Ranch,

I know you were going to say that. But yeah, Skin Walker Ranch, I mean, they use various techniques and methods and signals that they can summon these things. They use different frequencies. They put rockets up at the same time to make these things come out. And it works.

Yeah, especially in certain areas, right? So, you know, and as he's saying, it's like woo-woo stuff you're talking about. And, and, you know, when some people hear this, it's like, well, that sounds like a Ouija board or something. It's like very demonic. And maybe it is, right? We don't know for sure. But what we do know is that there is potentially a capability from some people that can summons these things. And that's very weird.

You've got to ask yourself why and how can they do that? And are they summons the U.S. government? Probably not. Yeah, because I don't think when they're doing that is the government. No, I don't think so either. Let's listen to some more. UAP are attracted to. And I say, again, remembering what UAP means, it's a very broad term. It's an identified anomalous phenomenon. So unidentified anomalous shit shows up. That's a pretty broad category. Now, in order to be effective at serving as a PA, you can think of consciousness as a field.

Don't think of it as this superficial woo-woo thing. Like, it's literally like the World Wide Web. It's like the internet. It's always there. We can't see it. It's full of information and exciting things, but point to it. I don't see it here, right? So where is it? You have to be able to tap into it.

You need something like a Wi-Fi signal to get there. So individuals that have this gift are people that have been trained and have the talent to serve as a Wi-Fi to tap into the consciousness field where everything in the universe seems to exist or have. its presence. And once you can do that, now you're in an environment where while we're having other multiple forms of sense of data in place, if a UAP shows up, is it registering in the consciousness field that our PA asset is connected to through the Wi-Fi? And the Wi-Fi is this process of getting into mindful meditation. So two things are happening in that process or protocol of serving as a PA, lowering intellect, increasing intuition, and then reintroducing intellect at a higher level is an observer, not as a driver. How do you do that? Well, you're either born with

a gift or you go through, you spend 30 years as a Shaolin monk and you figure out how to do it the hard way. There are easier ways. There are cheats. And some of the cheats that have been experimented with are things that have not fared well for those involved in the program, including children, and I'll talk about them. So how do we, how do we heighten intuition? Well, you do it through stress inoculation. You do it through triggering flight or fight or flight biology systems in our body. Some of the most powerful things you can do is trigger that on. Like if it ate broke, don't fix it. Don't reinvent the will. The human mind and body is already something so spectacular, we don't understand it.

I don't know why it works, but if you can trigger flight or fight, all these things get activated and intuition does. So stress inoculation is one. You've got to hijack the amygdala and boom, you put someone there. You need to do that to heighten intuition while subduing intellect. How do you do that? You subdue the intellect by disassociation. So there are chemical ways to induce disassociation.

There are more proactive ways that you could do yourself, like through meditation. And by the way, when he talks about chemical ways, likely he's talking about DMT. Some of these other things that people have experimented with, I oftentimes go back to the story of those guys. There was thinking about nine, nine people that went and did DMT together. And they all experienced the exact same thing. the exact same scene, these what they call as mage elves or aliens that came out of a cornfield or some filled and they all basically talked to them and they were all there. They all experienced the same thing.

And it also depends on where all of their minds are to begin with. What are you going in for, right? And so this is not obviously an advertisement to go do DMT or drugs or any of that stuff, right? but it is just saying disassociating in some way with your reality, right? And I think that's what meditation and this higher learning of trying to understand how to disassociate with your reality is how potentially it gets you into that realm of being able to see or feel or even summons these things. And so you might say, well, that sounds like you're saying that you should go be crazy,

a psycho, right? Like a psychotic. So some psychotic break. And listen, there has been arguments even for people that have these psychotic breaks that go and kill and, you know, all these people and do crazy things. We don't always know how those people got there. What was their disassociation? Because obviously there was. They disassociated at some point in time with reality that led them into where they went.

It even goes back to, I remember when I was growing up, you know, I did not have the best childhood necessarily. I mean, my mom was great and all that stuff. But, you know, parental fighting and stuff like that, I mean, I think a lot of us experience that. But, you know, when you have that type of stuff and then someone comes along and says, hey, let's put you on some medicine. It was some of the early depression medicines. There was when that shit first started coming out like Zoloft and some of this stuff. And you're like a teenager. What some of that medicine did to me was disassociate reality, which is why, by the way, probably seven months after I got on the medical.

You started hearing these news reports about teenagers killing themselves, like right and left. And then yet, they kept the drug on the market. They continue to keep the drug on the market because Big Pharma was making tons of money. And so they tried to downplay the effects of the suicides of kids. They were on these SSRIs, especially as their brains were developing. And the more experts that started studying this showed that the SSRIs, especially on young developing brains, were disassociating them with consequences in reality. So part of reality and part of like how we live is a fight or flight basis, which is what he talked about. And then also the consequent base system of life.

You know, if I do this action, I'm going to have either this reward or this consequence. And oftentimes, and oftentimes this drug would would disassociate younger kids with either a reward system or a consequence, which can lead them on either path. I'm specifically talking about, though, how even chemicals like Zoloft or stuff like that in the pad. I'm not even going to say a drug, but I did allegedly Zoloft. But how it can disassociate with you with reality. Like is this. Oh, my God. Like is this associating my brain, which I'm not on any medication, but that's how it can happen.

Right. And so I think when you're talking about this high level meditation or chemicals DMT or how things affect your brain is how you get into certain scenarios, whether it be you're a serial killer or you summons a UFO or you're just an extremely nice person or maybe you're a freaking pastor that changes lives based on being able to save people and you feel like you were called to the ministry or there are various things to where people have heightened levels in various fields, I guess you can say. And some people are just born with that. Absolutely. And they don't have to take drugs to get that way. Yeah, there are absolutely some people like that. I mean, you know, there are absolutely some people like that, as he said. And

also, as he said, the people that kind of experiment or try their very best to use cheat methods to get into some of this are not prepared for what they're going to get from it, right? And so, and I think, by the way, for those listeners out there that are doing this, you've, you've rode in and said, hey, I've done this, but now I'm experiencing these things. I think likely that's what barber's talking about here is, you know, you have not necessarily been through the extensive knowledge of trying to figure out like how you have to get rid of this to get this and all this shit. I don't know anything about that, but obviously Jake does. I want to listen to a little more from Jake about the sonic ability because this does have to do with drones because there's a lot

of people asking the question, are these all drones or are some of these things non-human intelligence and what is a freaking difference? And are we actually seeing UAPs or advanced non-human intelligence? Are we seeing those things? And is it just our minds? Is it just our government. That's all we're seeing. And we're alone in the universe. I don't think we're alone in the universe whatsoever. And I think almost more than anything, the government wants you to feel that way. They want you to feel like you're alone in the universe and everything you're seeing ever in the sky is just them. It's their advanced technology. And they control you. And I don't believe that's the case. I think they have a better case to make to say that there are no such thing as

aliens or non-human intelligence. It is all our technology. They want you to believe that almost in some ways by reverse psychology to make you feel like shit we're the only people on the earth so our government is the only thing that we have and so we might as well follow them to the death of the earth because imagine though if everyone did have the power and capability to communicate with an with a not extraterrestrial but even a godlike form god for example Jesus whatever whatever it is and you feel like and you know as a mass population that that is the higher power then all the you have a population that does not necessarily need to depend on the government anymore. And that's a very bad thing for people trying to control millions, if not billions of people.

More proactive ways that you could do yourself, like through meditation. But all in all, those are the two things you do to get into that state. Well, kids are naturally way more visceral in both of those things. They're naturally more intuitive. Their intellect is lower. There is one more thing that you have to do to even enter that. and that deals with the other eye instinct. So your instincts have to be satisfied at this time.

So that just means you have to be comfortable. Can't be hungry, can't be horny, can't be tired, can't be worried about your survival. You can't be cold. You can't be hot. So all that has to be taken care of. So the limbic part of your brain is not like freaking out while the prefrontal cortex, whatever part of the brain it is that's more responsible for the hardware that helps you connect to the, to the consciousness internet is.

So satisfy the instinct, heighten the intellect, suppress the intellect, heighten the intuition, add back in the intellect at a high level, boom, you're in it. Now, there's another way that we do, and that's through hardware.

So you could do software, chemical drugs to, in order to get stress inoculation to disassociation, or you can do hardware. One of the guys on our team has made a breakthrough recently and uses a system, which is basically a non-intrusive ultrasound system that can target the brain and induce or at least take a lot of the edge and the struggle out of transitioning into that state. And so he's one of the guys that works in our new organization that is assisting us. with reproducing and demonstrating all of this stuff that has gone on over the decades in the program that comes with all this baggage and secrecy and stuff.

And we're trying to leave all that behind and do it now in this clean and free environment where we have autonomy as a private organization working in partnership with government organizations and educational institutions to put this out there once and for all. And, you know, in that effort, we feel this is a much more humane way. and everyone that works with us is doing so on a volunteer basis. But how the ultrasound works is it can target, it can get through the skull and it can target parts of the brain to help you transition out of intellect and into your intuition.

And most of the experimentation that is done in the testing that is done in order to find the people that can serve in this role is done through a random number generator. So he runs a random number generator program. and then has the subject sit there and hopefully I'm not butchering this whole process of how he tests it. But has the subject, then has the ultrasound equipment run into the brain. The consciousness is activated through lowering intuition, heightening intuition and lowering intellect. And now the individual can impose its will on this random number generator that's running in a

computer and can cause the number to move up if you wants or causes it to move down. And context for the audience, a random number generator is basically a graphical interface that shows ones and zeros. It's a binary computer. And it's tied to something that is conventionally thought of as random and quantum mechanics. So radioactive isotope decay, photon bouncing around a little box. And so it's a perfect digital coin flip. Over a long enough time scale, you should expect the same amount of ones and zeros with maybe a small standard deviation. And if you're saying that through stress inoculation and disobeyed,

or through this hardware technique, somebody can in a statistically significant way affect that it's called a Z score in this random event generator. So you get more ones or more zeros. You're basically saying that that person has more ability to render their reality and effect that more of a mind over matter effect. Through consciousness, they can affect reality of that. Which is nuts. That's crazy.

And here's the crazy thing. Even if they in that test, because zero or flatline, or the middle line is the reality, right? So even if someone could get it to deviate the most minuscule number, any deviation is infinitely mind-blowing because it's that good of a test, because there should be no deviation. So there you go. And listen, I do encourage all of you to go and listen to Jesse Michael's interview with Jake Barber,

so a three-hour interview. And I want to point out something, although there are probably definitely some of you listening to Jake Barber's account of psionic ability people out there where he has come forward as a whistleblower that has participated in some of these potential crash retrieval or retrieval programs of something. You also have to remember that the U.S. government has used what they called remote viewers, but also psionic people for a very

long time. One of those was Ingo Swan, remote viewer in the Stargate Project. The Ingo Swan was a central figure in the U.S. government Stargate Project, a secret program that ran from the 1970s to the 1990s focused on using remote view in psychic spying for military and intelligence purposes. Swan claimed not only to have remote-viewed Soviet military installations, but also extraterrestrial bases on the moon.

In his book, Penetration, he described psychic encounters with alien presences and suggested that government agencies were interested in using psychic abilities to detect or even contact UFOs. Now, this started in the 1970s, or didn't start, It actually started before that, but this particular case was in the 70s. You've got to also go back to Pat Price. A former police officer turned remote viewer, Pat Price worked alongside Ingo Swan in the Stargate project.

His psychic skills were considered exceptional. Price claimed that he had remote-viewed alien bases on Earth, pacifically under mountains like Mount Hayes in Alaska. His reports were taken seriously enough that the CIA and military officials investigated some of his claims, some believe his sudden and mysterious death in 1975, might have been connected to sensitive nature of his work. You also have Yuri Geller, a psychic CIA experiment. Israeli psychic Yuri Geller, famous for his spoon-bending abilities,

was tested by the CIA at Stanford Research Institute in the 1970s. Now, the CIA wanted to determine if his psychic powers could be used for intelligence gathering. And so Geller had also claimed to have direct contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. In later interviews, he suggested that his abilities were influenced by non-human entities and that his role in government experiments might have been or might have had deeper connections to UFO-related research. And then we think about Dr. Hal Putoff. Now, this is someone that Ashton Forbes has talked to several times over the past couple months. Although not as psychic himself, Dr. Hal Putoff is one of the lead scientists in the CIA's remote viewing programs.

Later, he become involved with the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program or ATIB, which is a secret Pentagon UFO study. Putoff has been involved in research that connects consciousness. Consciousness with UFO phenomenon suggesting that human perception and psychic abilities might play a role in interacting with UAPs. His work hints at government interest in whether consciousness can influence or detect non-human craft. And then one last thing. I mean, there's tons of them, but Project Serpo. Now, according to conspiracy theories, Project Serpo was a secret U.S. program involving an exchange of personnel with an alien civilization from Zeta-Ratigula star system.

And so some claim that suggests that psychic communication was used to establish initial contact with these extraterrestrials. While this remains obviously unverified and speculative, it aligns with patterns seen in real government programs like Stargate. And some of this potentially could have went on from the 1950s. So when we talk in here about Jake Barber, where he's talking about these ps. or these PAs. And you're talking about this in the context of he was a spec ops type, I guess, Air Force guy with a top secret security clearance that worked on highly sensitive missions like potentially crash retrieval programs.

You can't just discredit him. You can't just say, oh, Jake Barber's full of shit. So is David Grush. So is Ryan Graves. So is Commander Fravor. So as probably various others that will eventually come forward as whistleblowers. and it's not just these guys that have been whistleblowers. We have had whistleblowers in the past that have said or said things that they saw or witnessed

on their deathbed. They did not ever say any of this stuff until they were under deathbed at 80 and 90 years old. And they said that they participated in potentially UFO crash retrievals or some type of communication with UFOs. And so what I will say is that this entire thing is not just folklore. It is not just something that is drones from the United States. government or China. I think we are far,

far beyond that. And so one of the last things I want to play, and I do think that you guys should go and watch this interview in its entirety. And we might have to maybe break this interview down. I want to get Chris Bledsoe on the podcast. If any of you guys want to reach out to him on X or wherever and see if he wants to come on our show, would love to interview Chris Bledso ourselves.

But Chris Bledso tells Sean Ryan, the return of Christ may occur on Easter of 26. So obviously, Sean Ryan did not release this episode. He had tons of pressure on social media. Why are you not releasing the Chris Bletsu episode? Everybody in the UFO space and, you know, a lot of people wanted this episode released. And finally, I guess he released it. And this is a very short clip, but we're at least going to get to this before we close.

Listen to what Chris Bletso says about this. That alignment will happen in 2026 at Easter. what will happen the star will the alignment she told me about that the star of regulus would be on the horizon in front of the sphinx at that moment there would be a new

knowledge well I had no idea if this was even possible that these astronomers run it through the machines and it comes out that that star is going to come up on the horizon in Easter of 2026 and for that point forward

they started remote viewing the state, government did. And now you hear it all over TV. 2026, that's the big date. 2027, that year, something's going to happen. Armageddon, you hear it all over, you know, you hear it on TV. If you study, like, I've heard even, well, I won't say names, but. Please do.

Well, you know, Lou Elizondo, right? Louis mentioned that date. A lot of people have. Easter of 2026. The year of 2026. I gave him a specific time. And it was with Robert Grant that I told him about this alignment and all. And he's like, oh, my God, he's been looking for this ruby.

This little ruby you have to find and place it between the Paul's Spinks to make this event that he knows is going to happen in 2026. I said, Robert, it's not a ruby. It's the store of regularity. He looks like, he's like, oh, my God, that's the king's star. So what's going to happen? I don't know. But I think it's possible that's the return of Christ. Yeah.

Or the lady and the whole heavenly host living with us, Jesus. All right, so there you go. Even Chris Blutzo, either he's. he is crazy or he just has a feeling about something or he actually has knowledge of something, right? I mean, this guy is the guy that was visited by the lady as he calls it. He has had many UFO, UAP experiences. And listen, is it weird or is it like crazy to say that potentially there could be,

I'm not going to say necessarily profits, but I mean, you know, if you look throughout the Bible, there were profits everywhere. Well, even the Mayon calendar said we're going to like, not be around a couple years ago. I think the May encounter, what was that, like 2012 or something? Yeah. You can't remember what it was. I mean, there's predictions all over the world going on constantly.

Yeah. So, you know, we can't just say he's crazy. No, you're, yeah. There's other people that predict things are other civilizations that have been predicting things from the time we were alive. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, even biblical times. I mean, there were prophets.

And a lot of these prophets got it right. right eventually. You know, it is dependent on the time frame. That's the one thing in biblical times. We don't know. Is the time frame? Yeah. How quick did they get it right?

Yeah. I mean, were they right on their dates? Yeah, maybe they're right, but the dates are wrong. Yeah. So we don't know. I mean, you know, is Chris Blood so crazy? I don't know. I, you know, that's why I would love to have a conversation with him.

I don't think he's crazy. But when you hear someone's story like his, it sounds insane. but also at the same time, it's like for someone to come out and devote their entire life to this story, this thing that enveloped their lives based on an experience that he had with what he believes was non-human intelligence, whether that was, you know, the lady is in some type of spiritual creature, or not creature, but being, which very well could be. He doesn't know, but at the very least, you know, it was interesting that Sean Ryan did not release this episode. and I have not watched the entire episode yet.

If I think it's good enough to break down, we will definitely do that. I think it is, although interesting, that he did not release the episode, regardless of whether Sean Ryan believed him or disagreed with him or whatever, you know, it's like if we had Chris Bletzel on the show and he said some outlandish crazy stuff that maybe a lot of people would think might be outlandish, we would still release it. Yeah, that's for you to decide, yeah. Decide, not us. Yeah.

And I think anytime people start to silence or censor or just not let something out because you don't believe it or you don't necessarily agree with it, then that's only based, then your podcast or your show is only going to be based on what you believe, which is fine. But I think something we've always tried to do. And by the way, we've always also welcomed anybody on this podcast that is completely against our views on anything. Whether it be your far left, you are anti-God, your anti-UFOs, your anti-UFOs, your anti-war. whatever it is. We would always welcome anybody on the show as long as they could have a cordial conversation that they wanted to debate us. We always welcome anybody on the show.

So if you're one of those people out there that heavily disagree with us, by the way, we get tons of emails, not tons, but we get enough emails to where I see there are people out there that always want to, you know, chat it up in email talking about how we're wrong. But if you guys ever are brave enough to come on the show and talk to us on the show about how wrong we are, we welcome you. that's what we will say but we're going to close it with the same song we intro um there's a lot more to say about this we could literally go on for two or three more hours we're probably going to revisit this especially we might have to touch on this chris blitzow interview with sean ryan and maybe

we can get chris bletso on the show uh soon but guys until next time we love you very much stay safe peace out peace out guys