Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Tucker Carlson Interviews Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund | January 6 Conspiracy Podcasts

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

Tucker Carlson's recent Twitter interview with former Capitol Police Chief, Steven Sund, shed new light on the events of January 6th at the Capitol. According to Sund, that day was marred by a pervasive cover-up and a deliberate conspiracy aimed at misleading the American people. This revelation underscores the complex nature of the incident, revealing layers that have remained hidden.In the aftermath of the protest, January 6th has been wielded as a potent political tool by certain factions, notably the Democrats and the left, who have seized upon the event to score political points and consolidate control. This strategic manipulation of the narrative has extended over months and years, raising questions about the true motivations behind such actions.During the interview, Carlson delved deep into the details provided by Sund, peeling back the layers of deception and misdirection to offer a clearer understanding of the situation. However, the intrigue doesn't stop there. In a thought-provoking twist, the episode concludes with an exploration of an overlooked and substantial conspiracy, one that has remained conspicuously absent from mainstream discourse.By engaging with these revelations and delving into the lesser-discussed aspects of the January 6th events, Carlson's interview offers viewers a chance to critically evaluate the broader implications and complexities of that pivotal day in American history. All of this and more on this episode of Tucker Carlson Interviews Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund | January 6 Conspiracy Podcasts

Hello, I've been selling my soul, working all day, overtime hours for bullshit pay so I can sit out here and waste my life away, drag back home and drown my troubles away. It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to for people like me, people like you wish I could just wake up. Hello, and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. What is up, Sherry?

What is up? Hey, guys, welcome to the podcast. Well, welcome to the show, guys. It's about 7.30 p.m. here on the East Coast of the United States. It is August 14th, 2023. That song is Oliver Anthony, Richmond, north of Richmond. Man, this guy has absolutely blown up over the past few days for obvious reasons. And listen, if you have not heard the song,

we will definitely play it in its entirety at the end of this podcast. But I still think, that you guys should all go and support this artist wherever you download and probably the best place to support an artist is Spotify or Apple. That really does help their charts. This guy has been number one

on iTunes charts for like two days now. A guy out of nowhere. Yeah, this is a guy that is just a guy that just blew up overnight and the reason why he blew up is because he's so authentic. He's so raw and he wrote a song about what we all

can relate to. We all have connections with what he's talking about. And I think that's why he's blowing up. He's just really amazing. I love hearing raw music like that. Yeah. Yeah, one of the things I think people really relate to with this, too, is, and like you said, you know, you can relate to this.

You can kind of put yourself in this position, and you can feel a soul coming out into music. And, you know, where he talks about Richmond, north of Richmond, right? And he works for bullshit pay and just to come home and basically drink and try to forget the fact that you live a miserable, shitty life. There's a lot of people that feel like that nowadays. And I think what he conveys in his music is the fact that the elites take everything while they give you nothing. I mean, if you really look at society and just the way our world is today, there are more slaves.

There are 99% slaves and 1% elites. And everybody else works for those elites to make them richer and richer and richer. And this is kind of the point of this song. I think it's an amazing song. And I think this is something that music needed because, I mean, we've talked about music a couple times before, but, you know, when you have songs, like rap songs, talk about killing or hoes or this or that. And then you have country songs that don't even sound country anymore.

They're more like pop and just they want to make sure that it's just mainstream. It can be on all the pop stations and everywhere. We want to maximize our money. So country is selling out to their audience. Yeah, we're just looking for popularity in that circumstance. Yeah, they don't care about their audience anymore. And this, this is, has a real audience, is really authentic, and it has a great message. Well, it's just like Jason Audeen, try that in a small town song where CMT pulled his music video.

And this is CMT. This is country music television. And yet you literally pull a song from your network that, I mean, I don't know, I mean, unless we have a whole new demographic in country music, which would obviously everyone would think would be, you know, everyone would be pissed if they pulled the song. it's just weird It's weird how things are No days Yeah well everybody was pissed That they pulled his song

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Where there are liberal What prosecutors on the left That let everyone And anyone do What they want to do And it's destroying our cities this administration is destroying our country and I think even more so

I think that's why people connect with artists like Oliver Anthony with like Tom McDonald like some of the other ones that really portray their message to what we all feel we all feel like we're victims of communism already and although we're not a communist country quote unquote the United States

but we are getting closer and closer to that every single day and I think 2024 election is going to be huge whether or not you vote for RFKG or you vote for Trump or whatever, it doesn't matter. The reality is we have to do something. We have to have an intercept in between this globalist agenda and what we long for, which is America, which is patriotism, which is our Constitution,

which is all of these things that the United States has fought for and died for and hold dear for so many years. And that's what we're facing. And by the way, that's why we're doing this episode, because this episode, we're going to be talking about the Tucker Carlson interview with ex-capital police chief, Stephen Sond, where he sounds the alarm that January 6th was a massive cover-up. Now, we're going to play on this episode the most important clips

we feel like from this hour plus long interview. And the reason why we want to play these clips, now listen, I do think that you guys should all go listen to it in its entirety. So this podcast is going to be breaking down the most important clips from this actual interview because we've all heard that January 6th was a, insurrection. It was an attempt by the right by Donald Trump and his

supporters, his ultra-maga supporters to overthrow the government. They wanted to overthrow the government and put Trump right in there and to reign supreme. And Trump would be the new communist leader, like a communist China. This is what they want you to believe, right? They want you to believe that

we were going to overthrow not only the government, but the military, we were going to have the military come in and swoop in and help out, you know, it's crazy what they want you to believe. Now, before we get any I want to preface this with if you are a Democrat or you are middle of the road or you hate Trump or whatever the case is, this podcast you still need to listen to because it doesn't matter about Trump.

It doesn't matter about whether you're a Democrat or Republican or middle of the road. This has to do with corruption. This was a conspiracy and they conspired against democracy. That's the left's word. That's what the Democrats love to use. democracy. Oh, we got to save democracy. What they really mean is we got to save our chance for tyranny, all out tyranny, all out communism, all out agenda 2030, all out New World Order, and all out globalism. That's what they want to save. They don't want to save democracy.

They want to save globalism. Right. And they are taking a specific political side and saying they're terrorism. You know, they're the bad people. Yeah. And we just can't do that. as a country. Unless we want to have our country like it should be, we have to come together. And that's part of the problem is there is no togetherness going on right now. Yeah. Now, before we get into this actual interview, I want to give you some, a couple of stats, right? So approximately 351 federal defendants have had their cases adunicated or received sentences for their criminal activity on January 6th. And there's approximately 192 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration. Now there are many more potential, I guess, not criminals, but there are many more potential January 6th insurrectionists, quote-unquote, that are either still in jail, some of them don't know when their court date's going to be, whatever.

They've been charged, but they've not been convicted. Yes. So the government, the United States government, has treated anyone that has been charged or arrested on the January 6th whole fiasco, as almost as bad as what you might see in Guantanamo. Exactly. Guantanamo where we put terrorists. And I mean, I don't know that we waterboarded anybody, but the reality is that we have not went by the Constitution of the United States as far as the fair and speedy trial. That's number one. There's been a lot of people that had cancer or had serious medical conditions that did not have access to their medical treatments or to cancer drugs or whatever they required.

And some of these people were in solitary confinement. many of these people were in solitary confinement for many, many months without any medication or anything that they were supposed to have. These people were treated like terrorists. They were treated like actual insurrectionists, like, you know, someone that was against the country, to conspiring to overthrow the government. This is how these people were treated. Now, the reason they were treated this way is simple.

They were treated this way to send a message, right? And this is a message that the same way, for example, that if you have a bully at school, right? And this is what the bully tries to do. They try to do things in fear to where you don't mess with them. And a lot of times it's insecurity. Or not stand up to them or whatever. So they do things to send a message to everyone else.

I'm the badass. I'm the whatever. But eventually, though, someone does stand up to the bully and they send a message right back to all the other bullies. You fuck with me. This is going to be the result, right? But the reality is right now we are faced with a bully, right? We have this giant bully, which is all so powerful. It's like a David and Goliath situation. And I know it sounds crazy because you think of, well, look, there's 300 plus million people in the United States.

And then you have only this many officials that are, you know, trying to go all totalitarian on the people, which is what it seems. But the reality is that they encompass and control all of federal law enforcement, all of who they've been. basically politicized and weaponized against their own people. You know, when you have the FBI and the CIA and the DOJ, which is in place, by the way, to protect the country, which is what everyone's always thought they were there for. All they actually are there for now, and really, in some way, have been for a long time, is to carry out secretive missions to destroy some of the sanctity of the United States Constitution and United States heritage and history.

Which means they're not here for the people, but they're here for the administration. They're here for the elites, the top people. Yeah, and now more than ever. They're not for all of us. Yes. All of us, meaning all of us. Yeah, now more than ever. And, you know, we know, like, you know, things such as JFK and, you know, the JFK assassination.

There's more evidence now that CIA kind of led this thing to assassinate JFK. We know more about that now than we ever have. I mean, you thought Martin Luther King, Operation NU. Northwoods, which is where they wanted to take, or they wanted to carry out terrorist attacks on United States soil and blaming on Cuba so we could then invade Cuba. And that meant even killing American citizens. Which is so it's in the past, yeah. Yeah, it's in the past, obviously. But what I'm saying is they're worse now than they ever have been. Right. And that should scare the shit out of people. I mean, you think about there's been questions around Oklahoma City bombing and the connection with

Timothy McVeigh and with CIA agents and FBI agents. You talked about 9-11 and how the FBI knew about certain people because they were informants. There were two informants to the FBI that entered California, which were the original people in 9-11 hijacking that carried out and masterminded the entire 9-11 deal, right? So we know that they've always

been up to no good. So if you think that potentially CIA, FBI, and all the other ones could potentially be connected to these events that we just talked about, imagine how bad they are now when they have no oversight and nothing and they are just a rogue agency's or

sorry, rogue agencies to where they're carrying out all sorts of things in the name of globalism, communism, whatever it is, and the elites. And not to mention, they're going to every social platform that is out there and saying, they're emailing, they're telling them, you know, we need these emails, you need to stop this, you need to freeze this account. You have to do this because we are the DOJ, we are the FBI, we are whatever. Yeah. They're making these social media platforms. and I think some of them might be on board, but they're emailing and saying, you got to stop it now.

Well, yeah, I mean, and I think even a step further than what you're saying, which you're right, right? They, you know, the Twitter files and all that kind of prove their emailing and their correspondence back and forth. But I think it's even deeper in that. I think that FBI and CIA are 100% heavily wrapped up and infiltrated into these social media companies. Oh, yeah, there's people that are there that are from the FBI

that work for these companies. Yeah, yeah. And supposedly former FBI, former CIA, I don't think they were former anything. I think we have sales of agents throughout all social media companies. And there are things that these agencies do that you can't even imagine.

There was a guy on a podcast that I was listened to the other day. He was an ex, which actually I will mention Sean Ryan's podcast again. But there was a guy on there. And Sean Ryan, ex-Navy SEAL, he talks to a lot of people, especially people that are involved in

government or secret ops and stuff like that, there was a guy on there that said, you know, you could take your battery out of your phone right now, and the stuff I used to do, we could still hear you. There's no way. The amount of things that have what we can actually listen to you on nowadays is they come in chips. That's so scary.

They're microchips. And it's not even, they don't even have to have a speaker. It doesn't have to have any of that. These microchips have hearing and listening devices that the United States government and these, these, these, um, these secret operation or, you know, um, intelligence communities,

uh, they make sure they work with these companies, whoever makes these things to ensure that these, uh, devices are in place to where, no matter what you have in your home, um, you could probably be listened to.

So, so, so, Chad, are you telling me that you destroyed our Alexis? Alexa. Alexa. And they still hear us. Yeah.

Maybe. But yeah, I did destroy our Alexa. Um, but it was only, and it was kind of a fun night, but it was, fun. No, I threw it as high up in the air as I could on our driveway and destroyed it because I just

don't want anything listened to us. And I know our fault. That's why I'm saying, like, if you ever have anything important to say that you don't want the Big Brother government to hear, you might want to just go outside and probably you need to go outside away from houses or cameras because I'm sure your ring camera system also hears you. I'm sure every doorbell system hears you. And I'm sure it hears you on a lot longer distance than you can imagine. I mean, we just don't understand the amount of surveillance we are under every single day. Now, let's actually get into what we're talking about. This is talking about January 6th. I want to play the intro of the Tucker Carlson and the Stevenson interview. I want to highlight a little bit of what they talk about and then we're going to actually

start playing the clips, breaking them down, and telling you how massive this revelation is that this ex-capital police chief come forward and says what he does in this interview. And that's why we have these clips that we're going to highlight. guys, this is 100% not just a cover-up. This is a big conspiracy. This was something that they insured and made sure to happen. So here you go. You've described this as an intelligence failure,

but a failure is something that happens accidentally. None of the intelligence that was coming up talking about the storming of the Capitol, killing members of Congress, or killing my police officers, was ever discussed at the conference calls that I was on at least. That doesn't seem to make sense at all. It doesn't make sense. I'm looking at my men and women having their asses handed to them. And my first thought was, fuck it.

I will take whatever discipline there is. Once things got out of control, for 71 minutes, Pelosi refused to allow you to bring in the National Guard. Why don't we have answers? It doesn't seem like people really want to get to the bottom of it, and it gets worse from there. I had a conference call with the leaders of all the law enforcement. It was a call I coordinated. Not one person on that call talked about any concerns for the intelligence, the attack on the Capitol, that we were seeing that was out there. That's what's scary.

This sounds like a setup to me. I'm sorry, it does. New Jersey State Police beat D.C. National Guard to the Capitol. Wait, cops drove from New Jersey before the National Guard could get from the armory on Capitol Hill to the Capitol. Why isn't this story everywhere?

I have no idea. There you go. And how is that even possible? What, New Jersey Police beat them there? Yeah. Well, it's because we're about to find out. It's because of the fact that New Jersey Police, now listen, this Stephen's son, Capitol Police Chief, was

doing what he was supposed to do, which was protect the Capitol. was doing his job. And along the way, he was going through the chain of command, too. Well, yeah, because you have to. I mean, there are so many laws and stipulations when it comes to the Capitol or any government federal grounds, especially around Washington, D.C., you have protocols to follow. And so as he was starting to follow some of these protocols, he started to realize that this situation was out of hand. It was an emergency situation to where he, his job then became protect life and property, but not just life and property, but,

protect our government and our Constitution, our democracy, as I guess you could say. So that became his job. Right. So protocols have to eventually go out the window. Right. And he was also protecting his people. Yeah, absolutely.

His employees, his people under him. Yeah, because as... He said their asses were being handed to them, whatever that means. Yeah, as a police... And I think it's... Well... Sorry, go ahead.

Sorry. And I think it's because there was an overwhelming amount of people versus the Capitol Police. They could not... You know, you can't go one cop in like five, six hundred people. That's not going to work. No, you're right. I mean, that's probably, I don't know if that's exactly ratio, but it's close probably.

I mean, you had hundreds of thousands of people. Right. And, you know, Stephen's son was calling D.C. police. They were calling, he was calling anybody he could get to try to help them. And at some point in time, he realized he's like, I don't know if you guys are watching the same TV I am. Because, I mean, there were cameras there everywhere. There just happened to be cameras every single where. In the crowd, in there, all these places.

And trust me, don't think. these journalists and camera people were not tipped off to be in strategic positions to get all of the best footage probably from the provocateurs inside the FBI, which is the ones that really did a lot of damage, ushered everyone in, pushed and forced everyone in, instigated a lot of this. This is what we see. And that's what we're going to hear. So we're going to hear the actual first part of the interview and then we're going to break it down. Now, we got about eight short audio clips, but all of this is very important. I want you to pay close attention because listen, next time someone talks about January 6th, I just want you to be informed and understand

from this ex-capital police chief what the position and situation was that day. This is the main dude that was in charge of these policemen here. Absolutely. Here you go. Well, think about it. I'm the chief of police at the United States Capitol, probably one of the most prominent and should be the most secure building in the United States in the world. You know, you'd like to think of that. But when you look at it and don't take my word for it, Look at, there's now four, at least four congressional reports talk about the intelligence failure. IG reports, GAO reports talk about various intelligence failures. But coming into it, you know, think about it.

FBI, the Washington Field Office didn't put out a single document, a single official document specific to January 6th. DHS didn't put out a single official document specific to January 6th. That's very unusual. I've been through many other events in Washington, D.C. FBI would host a joint conference call at the least. It may be a executive JTF, Joint Intelligence Joint Terrorism Task Force briefing, or, and for all these big events, DHS and FBI would get together and put out something that was called a jib, a joint intelligence bulletin, zero for January 6th.

So you've described this as an intelligence failure, but a failure is something that happens accidentally, and I don't see how this could be accidental. So walk us through the contact that you had with DHS and FFSA. FBI in the days before January 6th. So just to touch on this for a second, obviously, Stephen's son being the Capitol Hill's Police Chief, you know, typically for any events, protest or otherwise, there is always a special debrief to where they contact all law enforcement local to their, whether it be D.C., Capitol Police, FBI, DOJ, whoever, and they always make sure that they have a plan, have a complete

understanding of what's to happen, what's going on, what their threat level is, what are the threats they see, what are the threats they don't see. There was nothing before this. And they knew what was to come. And supposedly they had all these domestic terrorists potentially showing up. So I want to ask one question before we go to the next video or the next audio. Who's in charge of the National Guard there? I don't know. And why were they? And why were they not there? Well, it doesn't matter because that's what we're going to find out in a minute. It doesn't matter who's in charge of whatever unit of the National Guard is. Now, Pelosi has the ultimate actual say-so, right?

And that's very important to say. And he's going to talk about Pelosi in a minute. But, you know, there was so much talk about, you know, after January 6th, the media and the government, the Democrats, especially in government, put all the blame on Trump not calling a National Guard. Well, Trump came out and his team said, look, I couldn't call it. National Guard. This was Pelosi's position to call the National Guard. She refused. She made sure it didn't happen. And yet everyone said Trump's a big liar. He could have called the National Guard. He could have done this. But what you're about to hear, it proves beyond a reasonable doubt that

Nancy Pelosi was the one that made sure the National Guard was basically delayed until everything could happen that did happen. And I think there's other people that delayed other police from getting there on the time. Because I think. think he's going to talk about it. I think it's like 71 minutes before he could get anyone to help him. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, the reality of what actually ended up happening to the National Guard is beyond me. It is laughable. But anyways, here's the next clip, guys. Think of this. Even while we're under attack, I have to go to those same two people to request the National Guard to be brought in. I have 340 National Guard that have been activated.

At least 150 to 180 of those are in the city, many of them within eyesight of the Capitol. Okay. We got to come under attack at 1253. 1255, I called the Washington, D.C. Police Department. I talked to their assistant chief, Jeff Carroll. Thank God I had talked to them at 1059 in the morning and asked him if he could possibly put some additional resource on Constitution Avenue. And he had some CDU platoons up there.

Called him and said, hey, please send those in right away. Because we knew as soon as they came up to their west front, they started attack it was going to be bad. 1258, I make my first call to the Sergeant Arms asking, saying, hey, it's bad. We need assistance. I need a declaration emergency. I need to bring in the military immediately.

and federal resources. I'm told by Paul Irving, quote, I'm going to run up the chain, I'll get back to you. The chain is Pelosi. The chain is, his chain would be up to Nancy Pelosi. He didn't have to do that, but he wouldn't give me authorization. The law says, in emergency, he can grant me authorization.

But he didn't. He said he'd run up the chain. My next call was over to Mike Stinger. He's now with the chairman of the Capitol Police Board, told him the same thing, we're getting our asses handed to us on the wet front. I need federal resources. He said, what did Paul tell you?

He said, he's run up the chain. is let's wait to hear what we hear from Paul. Sorry. So for the next 71 minutes, I make 32 calls. I'm in the command center. I'm calling my partner agencies. And by law, one of the first people offer assistance was United States Secret Service. And by law, I shouldn't have requested their assistance.

You know, I shouldn't until I had approval. But I'm looking at my men and women having their asses hand to them. And my first thought was, fuck it. I will take whatever discipline there is. Send me whatever you got. No, that's the one text Secret Service turned over. You know how they lost all their text? Yes.

It's the text between their chief, Chief Sullivan and myself. Thank God for him. All right, so he's talking about he called Paul, which Paul, just we're going to refer to him as Paul right now. He was over D.C. police. He needed an authorization to have D.C. police come in, help them infiltrate the Capitol to where they could have stopped this, right? But Paul, although he did not need Nancy Pelosi's authorization to do so, he said, sorry. I have to run it up the chain, can't do that. And he did not need authorization.

When you have the Capitol Police Chief calling you and saying, I have to have these people right now. It is a life and death situation. And he refuses to do it. And yet instead, he says, well, I'm going to run it up the chain to see what we can do. Then he calls Stinger. Now, Stinger, and by the way, both of these names that we're talking about, Paul, D.C. police, Stinger, which is on the Capitol Police Board, both these people have a very interesting

story that we're going to tell you at the end of this. Which, by the way, is a big conspiracy. But he calls Stinger. Stinger says, sorry, we've got to figure out, we'll let you know, we'll do this, whatever. It was all delayed. It was all a bunch of BS. But they could have approved it if they wanted to. Absolutely, they could have approved. Yeah, they 100% could have approved it.

And the current state of Paul and Stinger in this is probably, I mean, it's not the biggest conspiracy of this thing, but it is also something that you guys are going to be blown away by. If you want a conspiracy theory, you wait till the end of this because I'm going to tell you where Paul and Stinger are now. Anyways, here's part three. Think of this. Even while we're under attack, I have to go to those same two people to request the National Guard to be brought in.

I have 340 National Guard that have been activated. At least 150 to 180 of those are in the city, many of them within eyesight of the capital. Okay. we got to come under attack at 1253, 1255. I called Washington, D.C. Sorry, that's the wrong one. I apologize.

Let's go to the actual one. Here you go. Paul Irving, the guy who had, you're saying, the statutory authority to give that okay. Has he ever explained why he didn't? Oh, his, you know, they had him,

and he testified at the Senate hearing in 2001. 2012? I'm sorry, 2001. My apologies. Thank you for catching. And a couple of times he disagreed with my recollection. I can tell you my phone records.

I turned them over immediately. I fought to testify. They didn't want me to testify on the Senate in hearing. I fought to testify. There's so much here. Who didn't want you to testify? You're the chief of capital police on January 6th. You and me are on lockstep with this.

And my story hasn't changed in two and a half years. So when they first put out the notice and they were talking about having the hearing, it was only for current employees that were still in place. No one that was no longer in place in their position in security. So think about that. Initially, when they put up the request and they put up the, they were talking about having the hearing, it would have excluded Paul Irving,

would have excluded Mike Stinger, and it would have excluded me. Only three people, the three people at the top of the security apparatus. So the Democrats, I think. Well, it was joint. It was a combined joint. I hear you. I'm sorry.

You're absolutely right. Yeah. Of course, the Uniparty, intentionally excluded the three people who would know the answers to the key questions. Yeah, the original plan was to exclude them. I immediately called somebody I knew on the Rules Committee and said, please, let me testify. I will be there in person.

And I so remember, she said, you'll show up in person. I say, I promise you, I will be there in person. I want to testify. And I was the only one that showed up in person. It just seems like the denial of your request to have National Guardsmen who were within eyesight, you saw them, to have them help. That is, that's a pivotal moment on that day. And we know the name of the man who made that decision. And we still don't know why he made that decision. And that's just shocking to me. Has he ever answered that question?

No, he's never answered that question specifically that I'm aware of. And I do know when they were talking about the J6 committee coming out, I think it was representative Benny Thompson that had said, Speaker Pelosi is off limits. So they wouldn't get any of her records or phone records. What do you mean she's off limits? I believe that was one of the things he said that, that her coming into this was she was off limits to the inquiries of the January or six. She was running the house that day. I hear you.

I hear you. So Speaker Pelosi's off limits. Let me make clear of why that was. Speaker Pelosi was off limits because they wanted this narrative to be pushed that Donald Trump was over the National Guard. Exactly. Because Speaker Pelosi had nothing to do with it. And yet the other reason why Speaker Pelosi was off limits is because they could subpoena text records or email records or whatever they could have subpoenaed based on what happened that day with the chain of command, quote unquote, that they talk about. And they could have seen what Nancy Pelosi was saying to the people under her and emails and everything else.

That's why there was no way possible that she was ever going to be put in front of a January 6th committee and have anything ever subpoenaed. And that's why they didn't want these three top guys to be witnesses either. Yes. Well, especially Paul and Stinger, right? You got Stinger, Capitol Hill's chair, and you got Paul, which is D.C. police. These two, it sounds like Paul and Stinger were part of this whole conspiracy, right? They knew what was going to happen. They understood what was going to happen.

Or at the very least, they were completely handcuffed to where they couldn't do anything. So obviously, if they did come and testify, they're going to tell a completely different story. Now, those of you that were watching the media during the January 6 hearings and the committee hearings where they blasted on everything. They had CNN and MSNBC and all these news agencies would literally live stream this coverage all day.

They don't do this about anything. They definitely didn't do it about Hunter Biden or anything. But they would live stream this every day, and they only put the people that went against Trump, whoever they had against Trump and the general. January 6th thing. That's only people they would have. Now, I want to tell you who was on the committee. Well, you got Adam Schiff, Zoe or Zoe Lofgren's, Zoe Lofgren, Pete Aguilier, Stephanie Murphy, James Raskin, Elaine Loria, Liz Cheney, and Adam Kinsinger. Now, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinsinger,

supposedly Republicans, but they're not. They are literally what I would call, I guess, Wolf and Sheep's clothing. And although, yes, both parties have definitely deep state corrupt pieces of shit in the parties. Right, on both sides. On both sides. But the reality is that Liz Cheney and Adam Kensinger are 100% part of the deep state system. They are part of this conglomerate of globalist and the new push for New World Order. There's no question about it.

James Raskin. Jamie Raskin, he's one of the guys in the Hunter Biden hearing where he was bringing up Black Lives Matter. like anything he could possibly bring up. It had nothing to do with Hunter Biden. Yeah. And Jamie Raskin was also on the UFO committee, you know, where he wore some kind of weird thing on his head. Yeah, that guy is kind of

weird. He's like, woo-woo. Now, Adam Schiff is also on the committee. Adam Schiff is famous for all of his lies when it come to Donald Trump's impeachment and Russia collusion, which have all 100% been proven fault.

He should be in jail. himself because he has lied under oath numerous times about the perjury, or sorry, not about the perjury, but about the impeachment, the Russia collusion. He supposedly had these whistleblowers to where he didn't want the whistleblowers to come forward and actually say anything in public, which is what you do with whistleblower. Right. He just wanted you to think he had them. No, but he wanted to admit statements and do evidence from the whistleblowers that wanted to make anonymous that you have no idea who these people are, supposedly, but they have these statements to say this. It is literally the biggest bunch of crazy shit of it.

ever hurt in my life. So these are the committee members that are on this January 6th committee. And I call Adam Schiff, the shit show. Well, yeah, he's absolutely this shit. The Shifty Shift, shift, shift show. He's the shit show. And by the way, this is not a pro-Trump podcast episode. We're just telling you

what happened on January 6th, according to ex-capital police chief, Steven Sund. Let's get into the next clip. So, 209, I get approval to bringing the National Guard. Probably 2-10-21-11. And my first call, well, I've already called General Walker. Called General Walker at 151.

I was like, I can't wait and you freaking longer. I call him, I said, send me the National Guard as quick as you can. I'm going to get approval any minute because he asked, who you have approval from the Capitol Police Board? And I said, I'll have approval any minute. Please just get them coming this way. So they're within eyesight. Shortly after 209, I talked to them.

234, I get a notification to get on the call with the United States Pentagon. I have to sell my request for the National Guard. I'm on the call with a Lieutenant General. Piat, trying to make sure I have his name pronounced right, and General Flynn is on the call. And it's mainly Piat that I'm speaking with. I get on the call, Mayor Bouser is on the call, Chief Conte is on the call, and I said, I need the National Guard immediately. This is an urgent, urgent situation.

I still remember saying urgent twice. This is urgent, urgent, urgent. They've got to be looking at the same TV as I'm looking at. I need the National Guard immediately. You know what his response is? don't like the optics of the National Guard on Capitol Hill. He goes, I would rather have your officers in the fight, and we can backfill your officers somewhere else.

I said, I don't have that option. All my officers are in the fight. He goes, I'm telling me, I don't like the option of the National Guard. I don't like the optics of the National Guard on the Hill. I said, sir, we're having our asses hand to us. This is life or death. I need assistance immediately. And I still remember, he said, you know,

my recommendation is not to support the request. I still remember Robert Conte going, whoa, whoa, hold on, you're denying the chief of the Capitol Police. And he goes, he goes, not that we're denying him. I just don't like the optics of the National Garland Capitol Hill. And he goes, and he goes back to that again. I'd rather back to your people. I said, sure, I don't have that option. This sounds like a setup to me.

I'm sorry, it does. It gets better. So I beg and beg, and he goes, well, I'm going to walk down the hall and we'll talk to the secretary of defense or whoever he's going to talk to. right then I get notification. So I'm still on the call. We have the shooting of Ashley Babbit. And I said, we have shots fired. I still remember yelling over the phone.

We have shots fired on the U.S. I capital. Is that urgent enough for you now? Hang up the phone because now I've got to start making my notifications. I've got to call the Sergeant Armstrong saying, hey, we got what looks like maybe a confirmed shooting. Do you know when the National Guard finally arrived? 6 p.m.

6 p.m. they're sworn in on post. Do you know those National Guard, the 150 to 180, that are with an eyesight of the Capitol. You know what they do with them? They put them in vehicles, driving them around the Capitol back to the DC Armory. You know where the DC Armory is. It's far away, yeah.

Washington White House is on one side, United States Capitol, DC Armory almost equidistant on the other side. Near RFK Stadium. Yeah, over by RFK Stadium. They drive them back then, and they send me in the evening troops. Not really. Can you freaking believe? No, that's real.

That's real. And you know what else I do? While I'm begging for assistance, the Pentagon sending resources to get generals' houses to protect their homes, but not me. So you begin to think, it seems a little conspiratorial. I can see where somebody,

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I can see where people begin to go down that rabbit hole real quick. That rabbit hole, I mean, I don't know what the other conclusion is. So yeah, so listen to this.

So they finally approved National Garden. And where do they take them? Not to the Capitol. They take them away from the Capitol to the National Armory, or the Armory, right? That's a good ways away, forever away.

Right. And he could see them in the distance before. Yeah. And they moved them away. away. Yeah. They were an eyesight. And yet they send them somewhere else, completely away from the Capitol, to where they had no way of interfering or helping the cap, the situation of the Capitol.

Because of the optics. Yes. But listen, let me tell you what the optics really was on January 6th. Okay. We hear about optics, right? And this word, this keyword, and keep in mind when he talked to these generals and whoever at the Pentagon, they use words like optics, right? Well, let me tell you what their optic was. Their optic was, okay, well, we approved them.

There you go. Woo! Where it's approved, it's all going to be good. But what did they do? They sent them completely away from the Capitol. Well, the reason they did that, obviously, is because what they wanted to present optic-wise for everyone that was there protesting the election, right?

Which you were illegally allowed to do. They wanted the optics to appear on January 6th that the police were open to. doors. They were including escorting, for example, the Q&N shaman around the Capitol building, trying to open doors for him. Right down the red carpet. Yeah. Let me remind you. They wanted the mass of these people to believe that the optics were that you're invited in. We're going to let you guys in, let you guys check it out, whatever. And this was the optics that they gave to the people that were up in, and don't get me wrong. There's 100% no question.

question in my mind, there were hundreds, if not potentially thousands of intelligence officers slash FBI, CIA, whoever that was in this crowd that was doing a lot of violent things, provocateuring, which is, listen, they have not just done this at January 6th. Provocateurs have been around for a very long time, including Black Lives Matter. Yeah, Black Lives Matter, I was going to say, I know they were there. Yeah, they, you know, in the Black Lives Matter situation, they wanted Black Lives Matter situation. they wanted Black Lives Matter and the protesters there to riot to fire stuff. They wanted this to be a huge optic to where it looked like the black community in this country

is outraged with racism. They're outraged with Republicans. They're outraged with police. And this was the optic, this sciop they wanted to create to where the media covered it. They made sure the media was there. And so this is why, if you ever ask, why would provocateurs ever do this? It's because they want to create the optic.

If this isn't going to happen by everyday folks, whether it's black, white, brown, or other, well, they're going to make sure that they instigate whatever they can to make sure that this shit goes out of hand. They're going to make it happen. Yeah, to where they can shape the narrative and shape exactly what they want. This is called a sci-op and it's called a provocateur operation. And it's a optic. And they create optics. Yeah, and it's happened on both sides.

Oh, absolutely. It has. It's 100% happen on both sides. sides. There's no question. And by the way, I literally, bear with me, guys. I want to make sure I'm playing the right clip here. And I talk about it in the book with the fact that shortly after January 6th, I'm driving through Loudoun County. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I just wanted to make sure because I'm getting confused now. Yeah, you played that other clip twice. Yeah. Yeah, I think this, I think this is the one. But guys, we're going to go to the next clip right now. Here you go.

So coming into January 6th, and I talk about it in the book with the fact that shortly after January 6th. I'm driving through Loudoun County. I'm coming, I actually just talked to somebody from the hill and I get a call from overseas and it's a press. I don't remember what it was. It's somebody from Great Britain. And they started asking me about feds in the crowd. I was like, no, I would have been told. I said, now we're getting word that there is feds in the crowd. I said, no, they, I would have been told. I've got lots of friends with the, with the Bureau. They all have myself a number. They would have told me. You know, thinking about that and Jill Sanborn's testimony in 2021 where she said they were taking overt action to keep certain

people from coming to January 6th to Washington, D.C. That's big for FBI to start taking overt action. I mean, that's not covert, overt. That's a big. That's a big deal. Fast forward to February of this year, 2003, in the GAO report that says on January 4th, January 3rd, the FBI was tracking four domestic terrorists that were talking about coming to Washington, D.C., the Washington Field Office, their AOR area of responsibility. By January 6th, they were tracking 18 or 19th in the GAO report. Domestic terrorists. So think about that.

They have 18 or 19 domestic terrorists coming to this event. So of course they're going to have resources on them. And you're not going to be just put in one agent. You're going to have multiples. So it would be multiple with that. And I don't know how many they actually had come here. So, yeah, what he's saying here is that they're going to obviously have agents in the crowd. Now, when you have 18 potential,

domestic terrorists. You're not going to like just let them go around in the crowd. If you know they're there, they should be right on them. Yeah. I mean, and the thing is they knew and really the reality of this whole thing is, you know, we got to remember what FBI and DOJ

over the past few years have been classified as domestic terrorists. That could be a parent that shows up at a school board meeting that does not want her kid to read or hear about transvestites or gender affirmation or affirming care or any of these things.

This DOJ and this FBI consider those people to be domestic terrorists. They consider people that believe in the Second Amendment, your right to bear arms as a terrorist. So they could have said that 90% of those people were terrorists, right? But the reality of this is what he said was that they would have called me, they have done this many times. We would have known about it. He had no idea about this.

They left him out to dry. and keeping in mind when he talked about, they were sent a National Guard to General's houses and other people to make sure that they were protected and left him out. Yeah, they didn't even go to his house. No, because he was not a part of the plan. I don't know whether or not they maybe, and I almost guarantee you,

the one thing I would like to interview this guy, and we need to actually see if we can get him on the podcast. But one thing I would ask him that Tucker did not was especially when he makes a statement like, number one, they did not send anybody to my house to protect my house. And you know he has a family. Yeah, they left him out to dry through this whole thing. He ended up having to resign, which he'll talk about.

But the one thing I would ask him, the one question is, is that did you notice anything weird or strange leading up to January 6th, 2020? Like as far as your comrades, the people that you normally talk to, the, the D.C. police, the Pentagon, the anybody you normally talk to, was there anything that stood out to you to where someone asked you a question about something. Well, maybe they asked you about your, maybe it was just some random person that came up and said. Right. And maybe you answered it wrong for them. Yeah, maybe they came up and said, what do you think about Trump or what do you think about this or what do you think about that?

And then maybe you had a, maybe a too strong of an answer in this direction to where they said we can, he's, there's no way he's going to compromise himself. No, I don't think that because he said in the beginning, he said he was not a political, but listen, that's not the point. It's not the point. The point is that they asked him some kind, at some point in time before January 6th, there was something, some kind of qualifying question that intelligence figured out about him that there's no way that he was going to flip. There's no way he was going to be a part of this conspiracy. I'm not just saying it's Trump. I'm saying it's just in general.

I know. I get that. And they didn't put him in the loop of what was going on. Yes. He had no idea. And he was the, like the main dude, the chief of the police. of the Capitol building. Yeah.

But the thing is, they knew, they knew going into this, that we're going to hang him out to dry, regardless. And they, they knew that from something. It was Intel somewhere, somewhere down the road,

somewhere before January 6th, they knew that this guy, we cannot turn. And, which, by the way, should make everyone really respect this guy because. Yes, because he has ethics. Yeah, absolutely.

And I, and I 100% believe that. So we're going to get into part seven of the, this. And we only got, by the way, a couple more parts of this. And then we're going to talk a little bit about really breaking news today about Georgia elections and what the grand jury has decided there, not even really decided. It's what was kind of premature. But so what I think this is talking about is Ray Epps. Now, Ray Epps has been the subject of many conversations about a lot of people believe this guy, which was instigating people in the crowd, that he was.

a FBI or some type of informant to CIA or FBI. And Tucker Carlson, Fox News, apparently is being sued by Ray Epps now that he has officially, I believe, been charged. But the only reason Ray Epps has now been charged is because this has been one of the biggest conspiracies with a January 6th name because everyone got charged. But yet, Ray Epps is on every kind of video known to man instigating this stuff and not been charged. So they had to do something because they had no choice.

Right. Because it was going to blow their whole operation. That tells you he was in the operation. Yeah, absolutely. So here is Stephen's son about RAPs. So it does raise, and I don't have the answer to this question, and I hope I don't ever pretend that I do, but it does raise questions about the behavior

of some of the people in the crowd who were instigating others to break the law and who weren't arrested. And given our facial recognition software capabilities, hard to believe they can't be found. And I would specifically cite a man called Ray Epps, who's now a hero on the left and funded by the Democratic Party, et cetera,

but take the politics out of it. What is that? Here you have a guy on camera repeatedly saying, we're going to the Capitol. We need to go into the Capitol. Into the Capitol. And he's not in jail.

When people who didn't go into the Capitol are in jail, what do you make of that? Again, that's something I actually addressed in the book. It's funny. There's a lot in here. So my concern with that, and I look at it from a chief of police point of view, is you have somebody that's down, and I believe he's right near the old executive office building on the 5th, the day before January 6th, talking to a group of people talking about, we have to get into the building, we have to get in the building. And then the next day to see him at what's called the Pennsylvania Avenue Gate.

It's one of the two fence lines I had down at the west front. And he's there, and he clearly sees the banner, the metal crowd control barriers that are up with the signs. saying restricted, you know, so he knows that's a restricted area. And he's up there and you see him lean in and he whispers in somebody's ear and he covers his mouth in such a way so you can't read his lips or anything, whispers in somebody's ear and that person moments later is attacking my officers, that's suspicious hell to me. I raised a lot of concerns. What is that? You know, and what's interesting is I believe. And that's, that's verified. The person into who's here he whispered. Yeah, I think if you watch the video, you see that and that person immediately

go and start pulling on the gate and start, you know, fighting with the officers. So Stephen Sond himself now says that, obviously, Ray Epps, there was something up with this, right? I mean, he was there. He was in the crowd. He has been linked to potential connections with FBI, CIA, or as an informant. And yet he had all this Trump gear on, all this stuff, wasn't arrested until this whole massive push about who Ray Epps is. Tucker Carlson has episodes about Ray Epps on Fox News. Now Ray Epps is supposedly suing Fox News and Tucker Carlson because they asked questions. They wanted to know why is he not being charged?

Is he a part of this system? Is he a part of this whole conspiracy? And it's pretty obvious it sounds like he is. But now, obviously, for optics, they have to charge him. Because everything in this damn piece of shit government, I hate to say it, but everything in this government is about optics. It's about what they want you to see and what they want you to visualize regardless of whatever the actual situation is.

Right. They don't want you to know the background situation that's really going on. No, they of course don't. They absolutely do not. Now, this part is about Nancy Pelosi, and then we'll get to that. Here you go. I was begging for the National Guard. Refused before, refused during it. We get the capital under control.

You know, I get them to where they can go back into session. 7.30. They like to go in at 8, and then the house goes at 9. But nonetheless, so think about this. The very next day, less than 24 hours after we got control of the capital, Nancy Pelosi goes on national TV, blames leadership at the top of Capitol Police, calls from my resignation on national TV, and then the lies about me.

Okay? The very next day, the very next day puts the Yogananaa Pittman as acting chief. But Yolganana Pittman, you just described her as the head of intelligence for Capitol Police. Correct. So if there was an intelligence, failure, which again doesn't seem like a failure, it seems very intentional to me. But if there was such a failure, she'd be responsible, correct? Or she'd be in the chain of responsibility anyway.

Well, I mean, she was the head of intelligence. If there's an intelligence failure, my thing is do a proper analysis. You know, why do a knee-jerk reaction? I mean, putting her in charge, I mean, she ended up getting a vote of no confidence so she didn't get the position from the police officers because many were upset with what happened. Where did she wind up? Where is she now? Yeah.

She's Chief of Police from the University of California, Berkeley. Interesting. So right across from Nancy Pelosi's district. That is correct, sir. In the Bay Area. That is correct. So you just kind of take the Bay Bridge over there and that's where she is now. What does that position pay, do you know?

I think it pays pretty well. There was, you know. Pays extraordinarily well. I'm sure it pays. I'm sure it pays pretty. So, yeah, Yoganon Pitman was, which it was over-intelligence for Capitol Police, which was under him. You know, Nancy Pelosi the next day calls for Stephen's son's resignation.

Resignation, yeah. Resignation. And, resignation. Calls for his resignation. And yet this guy was the only guy actually trying to stop what was going on in January 6th. And Nancy Pelosi, she knew. Yeah, and he was not in the know-how of what they were doing, what they're up to, their secretive BS. Yeah.

And I want to go back for a second, too, because I think I skipped over this for a minute. But when he was talking about the January 6th committee, now we talked about who was in the January 6th committee, which is a bunch of liars predominantly. Well, he called up to January 6th committee and to the committee members and said, I want to come and testify in person. I will come in person because a lot of this crap was on video, conference, and whatever. they edited a lot of stuff together and did whatever they could. But he said, I want to come and testify in person. Now, they did not ask him or Paul or Stinger, either of the three guys. Yeah, the top three guys in this whole thing.

Yeah, they were kind of in this. They refused to let them come testify. And it's because if Stephen's sonned or anybody else that was either getting a run around or whatever the case was, and it kind of also makes me somewhat believe that maybe Paul or Stinger 100% didn't or wasn't going along with this 100%. Maybe they maybe knew about it or something. There was something going on with that. Right.

They didn't even want them in. Yeah, they did not want them in there. Right. And they definitely did not want Stephen's son in there, which is why Nancy Pelosi, the next day after this whole thing, called for his resignation. And, I mean, if this isn't a massive cover-up set up to you guys, I don't know what is. I really, really don't. So that was about Nancy Pelosi and kind of what

What was going on the day after? And we all know that Nancy covers up stuff because I'm going to give you an example And this is stupid, but it means a lot During the COVID thing when we're all locked down at home She goes to her hairstylist or a hairstylist It says, I want my hair done. Yeah And she doesn't even wear a mask.

And the hairstylist put her out there Like this is BS. Just because you're this main important person doesn't mean you're just like the rest of us. Yeah, Nancy Pelosi, you know, but it's not just her. I mean, it's all the politicians. Do what I say, not as I do. Right. And that's just the way it is.

And it goes back to Oliver's song. You know, these asshole elites that, you know, we work for as slaves. And, you know, we were all born as human beings. And it's like we don't have rights. We don't really truly have freedoms anymore. We are so controlled and so constructed into this system. And they realize that they have us in the system. Right.

And the amount of power they have in the system, which is, by the way, why, and I'll say this many times, which is why exactly the Constitution was created. It was created to protect the people from the government. Yeah, from the government. It wasn't really constructed to protect the people. It wasn't for the government. Right. Sorry, go ahead. It wasn't constructed to protect the people from other countries. it was protected to protect the people from their own country, from their own government.

That's literally 100% the main reason why the Second Amendment was created. So that if the government infringed on your rights or if the government tyrannized you, you were able to defend yourself and take back your country. And nowadays, if you even mention that, they want to act like you're a domestic terrorist, right? But that's reality. Reality is that we are in a full control system going forward. It's not even close to what it was back in the day. when people and men and women and all these people sacrificed and fought for our freedoms that we have today,

or we barely have today, which we're losing today. That's just the point. Anyways, let's get on the next clip. We've got a couple more, and then we're going to tell you about Paul and Stinger, which is very interesting. It's also, I think, a really big conspiracy. Here you go. Someone, I think an outside entity needs to come in and do some investigation about what went on.

We already had. We've had many entities doing investigations and believe, we impaneled this committee or commission, this body of members of Congress that went on for about a year and was on the news every single night. Did they address any of these questions? No, sir. How could you have a January 6 commission whose job it is to figure out what happened on January 6th, not get to the bottom of why the head of intelligence at Capitol Police didn't pass on the intelligence where the chief of Capitol Police was kept in the dark and denied support from the U.S. military, why Yogan and Pittman wound up after failing on January 6

getting a high-paying job right across Nancy Pelosi's district? Like, who wouldn't ask these questions? Yeah, well, I know there's people on the hill still trying to ask those questions, and hopefully they can get some good answers, but it looks like they keep running into roadblock after roadblock after roadblock. But it's hard to believe two and a half years later, we're still at this point. I still think somebody along the line is going to find, you know, the smoking gun, the missing puzzle piece. Yeah, so Stephen Sond says there that he believes. that there is going to be a smoking gun. Someone, a whistleblower, someone, somebody is going to come forward eventually and say,

I was part of this whole operation. I know what happened. More than likely, it may be an FBI agent, a DOJ guy, someone. But there's no question, at least the way it sounds, that Stephen Sun believes this was 100% of conspiracy to lie and deceive the American people and ensure, by the way that everyone that attended this protest, or at least as many people as possible, got into the Capitol.

You know, there are many videos that show as people are marching from Trump's speech down to the Capitol where police... From the church, right? Yeah, where police were... were, you know, shuttling people to the Capitol. They did not want people to leave or try to leave.

They wanted to take them to the Capitol. As people were trying to turn off on other streets, they're like, no, no, no, you've got to go this way. March this way to Capitol. there were videos of officers that were opening gates, the barricades. They were opening the gates. And these were not even gates that were being pushed or broken down. These were gates that they were opening for the people that were behind these barriers.

You had police officers open indoors. But yet they only want to show you the videos of where the people were pushing through. Were these people that were pushing through and breaking windows and all this stuff? Were those people provocateurs? I almost guarantee they were provocateurs and the FBI or CIA or whoever it was. This is what happens in. our intelligence agencies. This has always happened. I mean, you have JFK, which many, many, there's a lot of evidence that supports the CIA was responsible for JFK's assassination. And yet,

you know, 20, 30, 40 years ago, 50 years ago, you, that was the furthest thing from most people's minds. It was, it was all Lee Harvey Oswald was the one that did this. Right. But yet, nothing made sense. And the more you found out about it, it even made less sense. And I want to just talk about this for a second. You know, they talked about this whole January 6 thing as this tragedy. Tragedy, sorry. That all these cops were being beaten

and killed and, you know, there's so many people that are being killed. But the only person I know that was actually killed was the Ashley Babbitt girl. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're right. I mean, Ashley Babbitt was murdered by, I think it was Schumer's protection detail.

But what the media wanted you, and actually, actually what they pushed all over the mainstream media was this officer, which was supposedly hit in the head by a fire extinguisher, which Tucker Carlson later aired the video of this officer. It followed basically all of his actions that day. Didn't look like he was ever in a fight with anyone. He looked completely fine during the entire situation and ordeal.

And yet sometime four, five, six days later, he died of a stroke. But yet they wanted you to believe that this was some massive, police brutality, multiple officers died. This is all we heard about from the media. And yet that theory, even if you ask, maybe go ask your mom, your grandparents or whatever, they probably still to this day believe that there were multiple officers killed on January 6th. The optics of what they wanted to present was that this was as bad as 9-11 or Pearl Harbor. This is what Kamala Harris said in the speech. This is what Biden said. This is what many Democrats have said. But it's all complete bullshit.

And speaking of that, let's find out about how they treated this event versus January, sorry, this event versus another event, which was the 2020 protest. It was a 2020 protest where they tried to burn a church, a hotel. This was a whole Antifa, Black Lives Matter thing. This is when Trump was still in office. Let's hear what Stephen's son has to say about this. It does seem like things have changed. And it does seem like politics affect the way we enforce the law. Does it feel the way to you?

Yeah. Again, that's one of the things that many things that are in here. I talk about the 2020 riots versus the January 6th attack. The riots in front of the White House were famously St. John's Church was set on fire. White House across the country. I talk about the White House. And I talk about an agency that was formed by Congress, specifically for the protection of the United States president,

the Washington, D.C. Police Department. The White House is under attack, and they are prevented. They are prevented. I know it's not from Chief Newsom. He was the chief at the time. It would have been from above him. They're from prevented from going on White House grounds and helping the United States Secret Service

and defending the White House. So think about that. Who made that decision? Again, all I know is, you know, Nusham's hands were tied. So Mayor Bowser? higher? I don't know. But think about that.

But somebody told when there, and there was real rioting. In fact, I think that more officers were injured at that riot than were injured on January 6th, I think. Yep, yep. Again, don't take my word, GAO report. More officers injured at the protests up on the White House and on January 6th. And I'm told by Park Police, all charges were dropped,

according to the fighting at Lafayette Park and at the White House. There were secret service agents bloodied and battered over there. There was a number of federal agencies that were hurt. Structures set on fire. They tried to light the Hay Adams Hotel on fire that was occupied. Think about that. Charges dropped.

No such situation. I mean, when you look at the disparity of how justice is being applied, again, that's scary. That becomes really scary when it becomes politicized like that. And that's what appears to have happened. Yeah. So let's just break that down for a second. All charges are dropped, number one. Now, this is a common occurrence in the United States of America today.

We've got to go back to George Soros for a minute. George Soros has heavily funded woke left prosecutors across the United States. Not just prosecutors. He's funded a lot of judges and other very influential people. Obama put in many judges that were very woke and left that were pro-crime and anti-American. And George Soros, as I said, he heavily funded campaigns of the most woke and crazy prosecutors that once murderers and robbers and and violent crime repeat offenders back on the streets. This has happened all over big cities across America. So as what Stephen's son is saying, these people literally were trying to set hotels on fire fully occupied.

I mean, you're talking about felony arson. You're talking about the church, a historic church that was set on fire. You're talking about them trying to infiltrate the White House grounds and to go and try to kill the president of the United States. This is what they wanted to do. But yet all charges were dropped. And I think Stephen's point here is that it is very scary when politics play the role of law enforcement. and they take sides. Because when that happens,

you're talking about a police state, you're talking about Nazi Germany, you're talking about Hitlerism, you're talking about all of these things, communism, you know, obviously deep state, tyranny. All of these things is exactly what Stevenson just said

and said it in the best way you can. He's the ex-capital police chief, and he knows and saw what happened. It is a dereliction of duty by many of the leaders in law enforcement. And it's just scary. It's scary the way that our world is going in our law enforcement and our law and order.

And just thinking about this last hour of talking about January 6th and all these things coming out. Yeah. You tell me, guys, what do you think? Well, I mean, I don't, I don't, even if you're a Democrat, by the way, if you are Democrat, keeping in mind. And you're listening to this. and you have been a Democrat your whole life, which by the way, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, my, our best friends are Democrats, right?

I mean, and that's what's crazy. I mean, most of you would be like, holy shit, there's no way. But they are. Because it's not about Democrat or Republican, right? I mean, there's great people on both sides. But there are also very, very corrupt people. Corrupt and extremist groups that are on both sides. And on the top.

But I do believe it's more so on the left. I think this left ideology is, is just sickening and sickening people's minds to where they're completely brainwashed. They're 100% sheep. And also, if you recognize and understand what is going on, that doesn't mean you're Republican. It just means that you understand and recognize. You can still be a Democrat and still believe that maybe you believe in abortion. Maybe you think that's a good thing, right?

Or maybe you believe in all the stuff the Democrats believe in, which I don't even know what the hell that is anymore. By the way, I don't know anymore. I like how you tried to give them a benefit. I'm trying. I'm trying. Oh, I guess socialism. You're giving people money where, you know, I don't know. Well, you're giving people college money, I guess.

Look, the last Democrat I think that I would have to go back to that, you know, if I was to ever say like. JFK. Yes, JFK. Yeah. So if you could go back JFK, but I mean, there are, you know, political, socioeconomic issues that Democrats believe in. that some Republicans don't, like weed, for example, or, you know, the rights to your, to your body and freedom. And Democrats used to believe that, like, anti-government, less government and more about, like,

my rights and I want to do what the hell I want to do. But Democrats don't understand that they're no longer like that. No, they are all about the government and what the government wants them to do. Take an experimental vaccine. Do this. Do that. Comply with this. comply with that.

That's all the Democrats are anymore. And we're going to pay you money for doing that. Yeah. It's absolutely crazy. Now, to the conspiracy part of this, and then we're going to wrap this up, Paul and Stinger, Stinger was the Capitol Hills board member, right? So he was a main influence in this that Stephen's son was trying to get to approve more aid and more resources and also to help him with getting the National Guard in there.

Paul was the D.C. police chief. This is a big guy. He could have authorized Steven Sun to, for more aid or more resources from D.C. police, but he refused instead of wanting to run it up the chain. Now, also, you've got to think about Paul and Stinger, both these guys. The top dudes. The two top guys besides Stevenson.

These guys were also not called to the committee meetings with a January 6th probe, right? Okay. Both these guys are not very old, by the way. But Paul disappeared, essentially. Paul has since disappeared. No one knows where he's at. He's not a part of D.C. No one knows anything about him.

Stephen's son went on to say, which you guys can find this. You can just go to Twitter and find it. I should have put it in this. I don't know why I did not get the clip of him saying this. I'm sorry. You did a great job with all the clips, by the way. Yeah, it was a pain in the ass.

Yeah, it was really good. Because we've had issues. We've had technical issues lately. We have tried this for three days. And I told Chad, he just has to get the clips. And he did it, and he spent all day doing it. So thank you, Chad. For a while.

Yeah. But anyway, so Stephen's son, he said this, right? Paul, the D.C. guy, has disappeared. I'll face the planet kind of in a lot of ways. No one knows where he's at. He's not operating as far as, you know, you have this massive prominent position. Now you just disappear after January 6th and all this shit. You were just, I don't know.

Did they put him in Mexico? Is he in Hawaii starting fires? I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. Sorry. That's awful. That's not that funny. Well, maybe Maui, not Hawaii, Maui.

Well, Hawaii is Maui. I know. The one island of Maui. Yeah. And then Stinger is dead. So, you know, and unexplained death from what a lot of people say, but he's dead. Oh, God. I didn't even know that.

Yeah, he's dead. That's scary. Holy crap. Did you just leave that for the end for this, like, big surprise? Yeah, Stinger is dead. What is he dead from? Don't know. 100%.

But he's dead. for sure. Oh, so there's now two dudes. Yeah. So Stephen's son, you know, he says, and by the way, I guess I will find the clip and I will put it, I actually think it's this interview. And I don't know how I did not get that, but I will put it on our Twitter. So go follow our Twitter.

And because we do need more followers on Twitter because Twitter's screwing us, by the way. And that's a whole other podcast. Well, it's not really Twitter. It's X now. X, whatever. Go follow us on X. They're screwing us still. We're still shadow band like crazy.

We're actually less shadow band on Facebook. book and Instagram than we are Twitter now. Wow. I mean, it's nuts. That's kind of scary. It's crazy. Like, oh, it's just two normal people talking about the truth. We cannot let them do that because I don't 100% believe in Elon Musk anymore anyway.

But anyways, my point is that Stephen's son himself said, well, let's see, Paul is disbeared and Stinger's dead. So I don't know. We can't really go back and ask them shit because we can't. And now Stephen's son is out there, which by the way, I guess more than likely, if I had to guess, if you go back to Bob Bazar, for me a good reason. I was just getting ready to say that. He has to come out to save his life. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because if he didn't come out, he would be dead too.

Or disappeared. Like in a car accident or something stupid. Oh, absolutely. I mean, he would be dead. And, you know, I know this sounds like some sci-fi movie. But no, it's not. This is, I mean, think about, just think about this. For those of you that follow the UFO thing, right? and when the UFO committee hearing was in Congress or the special community, and they asked David Grush. He said, do you know or do you know of anyone that has either had their life threatened or been murdered because of what they knew about this thing?

He said yes. Yeah, he basically said yes. And on the murder thing specifically, he went down and said, I can't say that in this hearing. So if you can't say that, that means yes. Yes. So, and I think for some reason people believe that, murders and assassinations and all this stuff in government don't happen. They do. They happen more than you can absolutely imagine.

And so I don't know where Paul went or How Stinger died, but let me just tell you, this January 6th thing has been a huge push against it. Look, it's not even against Republicans or Trump. It is against Americanism and the way of life of true American heritage and culture and everything about America, that's gone. We don't have borders anymore. We have nothing as Americans anymore. We are no longer Americans. There's one thing would be in a culturally diverse country, but we don't even have a country anymore. We have wide open borders. We have a government and intelligence agencies that are against us. That seems like they are enemies. I mean, people don't even really, people don't. Sorry, and if you're big up and you're, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, big up, high up, and you're trying to go against them, you might be killed. Yeah, killed, put in prison, whatever. But the point is we don't even have a country anymore. People don't really even worry about China or nuclear war anymore because they're more worried about FBI and DOJ. They're worried about whether they're going to be classified as a terrorist or not. And that is the way that we live today. And it just goes back to the song that we started with. The song that we started with is Oliver Anthony, Richmond, North of Richmond.

And it really does sum up the way of the world and the way of society nowadays. And I think this January 6th episode, I hope it makes you understand that the corruption and conspiracy in our administration and this government, and not just this government, guys. If you're in Canada, listen, you're in U.K., you're in everywhere. It is infiltrated. We are infiltrated by evil. We are infiltrated by globalists. And really the root of that is evil. I think it's Satan.

I think it's all of those things. And I think these are the people that are running our world. And, you know, if you believe in a higher power, which I do, I believe you need to be praying for those or praying to that higher power to defeat the evil that is on this earth because that's the only way we have a chance on this. And we also have to be praying for the higher up people to. You know, I'm just saying we do. Praying. Oh, yeah, you got to pray for everybody. But I do think there are people that are.

going to be evil and remain evil forever. But we've got to pray for them. Yeah, you can pray for them. I agree. But, you know, if you go back to the Bible, it says, I know the beginning, middle, and end. And I think that God probably knew who was going to be evil and who wasn't. And he knows how the story is going to play out. And that's just the way it goes.

But guys, until next time, this is Oliver Anthony, Richmond, north of Richmond. This is a great song. Go support this artist. And until next time, we love you. Peace out. Peace out, guys. drag back home and drown my troubles away It's a damn shame

What the world's gotten to For people like me Wish I could just wake up And it not be true But it is living in the news Rich men North the Richmond Lord knows it all Just want to hang

Want to know that you do Because your dollar ain't shit And it's taxed to no end Because the rich Wish politicians look out for miners and not just miners on an island somewhere. Lord, we got folks in the street ain't got nothing to heat. And the whole beast milk and welfare. Well, God, if you're 5' foot three and your 300 pounds, taxes ought not to pay for your bags of but drowns.

Young men are putting themselves six feet in the ground, Because all this damn country does Is keep on kicking them down Lord, it's a damn shame What the world's gotten to For people like me People like you Wish I could just wake up

And it not be true But it is So I want to know what you do And then I don't think you know But I know that you do Because your dollar ain't shit And it's taxed to no end

Cause the rich men, north of rich men. I've been selling my soul, working all day, overtime hours for bullshit pain.