Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Tyre Nichols Murder | Police Brutality & Government Corruption

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

Tyre Nichols was recently brutally beaten to death by members of a specialized unit of the Memphis Police Department. He was pulled over for "reckless driven" but was pulled out of the car and beaten by five black police officers. What lesson can we learn from this tragedy? People need to come together and understand that government corruption is everywhere. We need to talk about what we can all do as human beings to make a change.

Run and dry dust breath in the air To dark days Do you have a peer to spear? Hello and welcome to investigate Earth podcast. I'm your host Chad Alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hey, guys, we're so glad you're here.

Hope you're doing well. Absolutely. Welcome to the show. It is January to 29, 2023, 5.30 p.m. Here on the East Coast of the United States. And I got to be honest, we really meant to have this episode out yesterday or today before.

But this episode, we are going to be specifically talking about the Tyree Nichols' death and video of the Memphis police officers, the five Memphis police officers that are now charged with second-degree murder in the death of Tyree Nichols based on their stop of Tyree Nichols and what ensued thereafter. The video, which a lot of people have seen, most of the nation has seen, has angered a lot of people. It is pissed off a lot of people. And, you know, for once, actually, it's very hard for either side to disagree with what happened here. It's very hard for either side to not being discussed when watching these videos. Not only did you have body cam videos that showed what was happening from officers' perspectives, but you had a pole camera which showed this from a higher up angle,

and it really just showed how one man got brutally beaten to death by law enforcement officers that are in a position of power. And not only were these just regular patrol officers, this was a special unit that was basically, these guys basically dealt with the worst of the worst people in Memphis. These were, you know, people that dealt with gang members and drugs and some of the worst criminals. And then you have this guy,

which was supposedly being pulled over for, quote unquote, reckless driving, whatever that may entail. But regardless, you should not pay, even if it was reckless driving, you should not pay with your life. You know, these five officers, they were the judge and the jury, and they decided that he should be executed that night. Even watching this video, I just don't see from a perspective of law enforcement at all

how you could not know that you were at the very least going to severely injure this man, but more than likely probably kill him. And there could be a reason for that based on the situation. But there was also probably a reason why we didn't hear. hear about this for so long. What is your thoughts on that? Well, I was just going to mention, too, that this happened on January 7th, and the body cam is coming out. It just came out Friday. This is a month later. And what's extremely weird to me is we've not even heard about this crime, because it is a crime on an innocent man. It's a murder. And why didn't we hear about this a couple

days after it happened. Why is it now just coming out the end of the month when it happened at the beginning in the month? That really pisses me off, number one. No, I get it. You're angry. Actually, when we were watching the video, and Sherry was, we were watching it. Yes. And I'm really upset as a mother. Like, I try to hold back my tears, but every time I see that video, it just, it breaks my heart, especially when this kid was yelling for his mom. Like, how dare these people do this to him? It just, I have so many feelings. It's hard to even talk about it.

Yeah. Yeah, so we sat and watched it. I believe it was Friday night we watched this video. You know, we put it on the TV. We kind of watched all angles. We wanted to see what happened. We wanted to see if there was any whatsoever reason for this. But, you know, we obviously couldn't find one, nor could anyone else.

But just to see these men that are in authority in power, beating a guy and kicking him and hitting him in the face and hitting him with a platoon and there's a baton or a baton or whatever and they're supposed to be the ones that are here to protect us yeah and instead of protect and serve us they killed one of us yeah and you know and and so what we're going to talk about in this podcast and you're completely right sherry was extremely upset that night so was i it actually friday Friday night when we watched this video it was it was not only hard to watch but it just kind of it kind of ruined our night as far as just our mindset, our mental mindset on this.

Because listen, we, if you go back and listen to many episodes on this podcast, you know, we got to think back to when the riots started, even in Ferguson, when the Michael Brown situation happened. This was under Obama's term. And, you know, there was a lot of people that did not agree with the riots or any of that stuff as far as why the riots were happening with the Michael Brown and law enforcement, you know, position. Everyone said he had his hands up. He was, you know, he was unarmed. But the reality to that situation, even though we still don't know 100% of the details that, so we're not going to say we do. But what we do know is Michael Brown was a big guy. He was fighting the officer inside of the

officer's vehicle. He was according to the officer going for the weapon or whatever the case may be. This officer fired because he felt like at the very least, you know, he was going to be able to get his weapon and then be able to use it on the officer. Now, we got to think, we got to talk about that too, because that was one of the things in the Tyree Nichols video that one of the officers stated that he was going for my gun. But when you see the video, that's bullshit because the kid had just come back from watching a sunset. I don't know if he's speeding or what or what made them stop him, but they stopped him.

And they didn't ask for a license and registration, sir. They drug him out of the damn car. with no reason. And then it was on. He was trying to comply. And I'm sorry. He was trying to comply. He said, yes, sir.

You know, yes, sir, I'm getting down, whatever. But when somebody's, like, beating you and taking you to the ground like that, it's hard to get your hands beyond your back. Yeah. Well, and we also got to think from this perspective. I mean, especially if you as a person know that you're not doing anything wrong. Now, I don't know why they were saying reckless driving. That could have been anything.

And that's what he was saying. He's like, what did I do? Yeah. A lot of these, a lot of these departments, especially these, you know, these gang units, these specialized units. And I'm not saying every department, but there are situations where these guys will find reasons to pull over people, right? And maybe based on suspicion, maybe the area they drove through. It could be anything, right? They will find a reason to do this. We don't know. But what we do know is that based on those body cam videos, there were multiple and multiple officers. that pulled up during a lot of this. I mean, it was more than just the five guys that were there. Right, yeah. There were bystanders there that were just like, well, this is the way it is. Now, specialized units in law enforcement agencies, and, you know, if typically regular patrol

officers, they're not, I guess, you know, these specialized units, I guess, are just the upper echelon kind of of the patrol or whatever it is. So they're not necessarily, patrol officers are not necessarily going to interfere with whatever those guys are doing for for whatever reason. And typically in these specialized units, they typically have a supervisor that's in charge. And what the hell is a supervisor doing? Because this is not protocol. No, absolutely not.

So we're going to go through a little bit of the timeline. We're going to talk about like, you know, is police brutality a thing? Is there a way that maybe this could bring people together on other issues other than police brutality or just the corruption in government, not just, you know, not just local government, which is your local county sheriffs or city departments or whatever, but I think this really needs to shine a light on corruption and government period against the people. Because this is something that it was one of the first things I thought of when I saw this. Obviously, we have an issue where you have government, because regardless of whatever we think, government always should be held in check

by the people. There are, there are, there is so many safeguards for that. That's why, I mean, that's literally why we have a constitution, right? And so you have politically, though, the way we look at things politically nowadays, we have one side of the politics that believe in law and order no matter what. So you might, you may think that is, you know, you would say Republican or a conservative. You know, if you have a Republican or a conservative president, you usually have that president, and Trump was one of these, that no matter what, He was just backing law enforcement 100% didn't matter. And that was a problem I always had.

That's why I've never said like I'm straight Republican because I'm a libertarian. I believe in less government. I believe in more freedom for people. We've always said that. And so when one party just all goes all in on one thing, right? You can't be someone for law and order but not also understand that corruption exists there also. Exactly. And you have to find ways to infiltrate these departments or find,

new legislation, whatever it may be, to ensure that those departments are held in check as well. I mean, you know, the corruption we see at the higher level, we're seeing it at the DOJ, we're seeing it, the FBI, we're seeing it in all of these federal departments. But listen, it is happening in the local departments too, and it's happening, I think, a lot more. And one side don't see one side of that. Like, the left does not see corruption in the upper echelon because they believe that it's helping them right now. But the reality is it's all one thing.

And there's corruption throughout all. And I'm not saying all of it's corrupted, but, you know, it is throughout all. But you're right. It starts at the top, at the very top of the DOJ or whatever. It sprinkles down. If you don't have the top right, you're not going to have the bottom right. You have to start from the top. And all this trinkling down provided a murder to occur through people that are supposed to protect us.

And, you know, that's the bigger issue of this issue, is we're not looking at. at the corruption above these guys. Of course, these guys should be held accountable to the fullest extent and not even second-degree murder, but first-degree murder. They need to be held accountable. But we also have to look at who else is accountable for these things. It's not just these cops. You know, and a lot of it does have to do with defunding the police and all the riots.

Nobody wants to be a cop anymore. Number one, they don't get paid shit. Number two, they're always threatened by people, because people don't like them because of things like this, like these guys, they give cops a bad name. And it gives you a bad taste for cops. So it's even, you know, it's so hard to even find a good person to be in this role nowadays of being a cop that's there to serve and protect his community rather than do what these disgusting guys did. Right. But it's all from the topics. And it is a lot of politics. I hate to say it, but it is. Yeah. I mean, one of the things. too to what you're saying, exactly to what you're saying is, you know, when you defund police and then

you know that everyone hates police. And so then the guys that would have normally been perfect fits for police. I mean, we're talking about these guys that, you know, they really did want to go to the police academy. They dreamed of being a cop since they were young. And a lot of these guys that used to want to do that. And the guys that would have been in these positions of power, but respectfully use their power to protect and serve, which is what they were supposed to be in law for us to begin with. A lot of those guys are saying, nope, I ain't doing it.

It ain't worth it to me. That is not no longer worth it to me. So now officers, and we're seeing it. We're seeing it with these campaign videos for various departments across the country that they're having to spend more money in marketing to try to get anybody they can to, you know, at least apply. And so you've had this problem because they would have all these very high standards

because it is. It's not easy to go be a cop. No, it's not. They have to go through a, lot. Yeah, you got to go through lie detectors. You got to go through, and they ask you the craziest little things, and you can fell lie detectors based on, you know, even like, have you ever stole anything in your life? And, you know, and even if you're thinking back and like maybe you stole like a candy or whatever, you know, and you say no or have you ever smoked marijuana

before, ever in your life? I mean, there are little, literal, little things that will disqualify you. But there's just so many different qualification steps to be a cop now. And they, They realize that when you have all these high standards, but yet you have all these people that can meet these high standards no longer wanting to be cops anymore. I think a lot of these departments are probably especially in some of these bigger cities like Memphis, which is, you know, Memphis is one of the worst cities for crime and murder in the country. Memphis has always been ranked in the top 10, usually, for violent crime or murders. They're one of the deadliest cities in the country. Memphis has an extremely bad gang problem. That's why they have these units, which they just,

just suspended permanently. They suspended this unit, which is the Scorpion unit they called them. And I'm glad they did. Well, you're glad they did. But Memphis in a city like this needs these units. They need a specialized unit to deal with the stuff. Because if you don't have that. But they have to be trained to deal with these situations.

If you don't have these units like this in Memphis, you get a Chicago. Memphis will become a south side Chicago. If you do not have proactive policing and not just proactive policing, Listen, these guys, there's no question. The guys that are in specialized units like this, they got to be kind of badasses. They have to be out there. They got to be in the worst areas of the city. And they have to be ready to fight on a nightly basis.

And so already, already these guys are always pumped up. Yeah, already these guys are always pumped up. They're always ready to fight. They're always ready to do this because, you know, they, most of the people they deal with are either going to run from, have guns, felons, you know, drugs. drug dealers, you know, this is a thing. And honestly, you know, when you're looking at a situation like that, these guys probably shouldn't even be pulling over anyone for reckless driving period anyway. They should be dealing with what they're specializing in, which is the gangs, the drug

problems, the, you know, the weapon issues or whatever. They should be dealing specifically with that, not just normal, put your police lights on and stop a car because obviously, like you said, they're probably pumped up and they wanted to drag this guy out of his car for reckless driving. We, you know, I have not, I would like to see the video of how Tyree was driving and what was reckless about it because we have not seen that. But regardless, if he was driving recklessly, this was not handled correctly at all. Yeah, so let's get into the time of one of events.

And we're going to talk more about this and what all this means and who the officers were. And, you know, some of the reasons maybe why, you know, we're not having. riots. I mean, the media is trying to say we're not having riots because the mother asked for it to be peaceful. But plenty of moms have asked for it to be peaceful in the past, and it hasn't been. Right. There's a big key difference, though. And I'm not making this a race thing. But the reality is the five officers that were arrested are all black. Yeah. And so it was black on black crime. Even though we are still seeing people on the internet, of course, especially the race, the typical race baiters, they automatically want to say this is race related. Listen, you can't say it's a race related when you

have five black officers that beat the hell out of this guy and killed him, that's not race-related. It may be a corruption and power control problem, right, which we do have in this country, and it doesn't just affect one race. Now, there are, and there have been some situations to where black people were at the hands of police because they were black. I'm not denying that, right? I will never deny that. We never have. But this particular situation is a lot deeper. It is something that we should study and understand and realize as a population that when you have people in control and power and position the power that are corrupt or they are piece of shit people. That is able to happen because, number one, this country has been divided on this issue of policing for years now. And so the more you divide a country based on this, the worst the corruption will get.

It's the same thing with politics. everyone's like, I can't believe that there are so many FBI agents and at DOJ and all this stuff. And listen, a lot of the FBI agent guys are great. A lot of DOJ guys are great. It's the leadership. And this is what you were talking about earlier. Leadership, though, controls everything. Now, there is a, you know, I've been in law enforcement.

I've worked a lot of the really bad areas of where, and it's not fun. And especially it's not fun necessarily to work a lot of the really rough areas and especially predominantly black areas, right? As a white officer, I can tell you that, because it sucks. And that's probably a reason why these guys were black guys, because it's not easy to be a white guy in some of the roughest areas of like gang-related, gang-controlled areas of a town or whatever. It's hard as a white officer to be in a unit to where you're constantly in and out of

these places, right? A lot of these housing areas that they work, probably are Section 8 housing. It is, I guess, what a lot of people would call the hood or the ghetto or whatever. This is where you have a lot of the gang violence. This is where you have a lot of the gang activity, the drug deals, all that stuff going on. It's a rough area. And it's just not easy for whatever. But the whole thing is, this is not a race.

race-related issue. The problem is, in this particular stance, the problem is, is that we have a country that has been divided on police brutality. We now have a country that's divided on politics as far as, you know, one half of the country believes it's okay for the FBI to be involved in social media. It's okay for the DOJ to shape the narrative of whatever. It's also okay for the DOJ to classify American citizens because they want to either be survivalist or maybe they go out and have a group people they learn how to survive and prepping or maybe they go on social media and they talk about things that used to be conspiracy theories but are now not because it's what the government was lying about, even COVID all that, or parents that went to school boards that were just

trying to look at for their kids because they didn't want things in their classroom that was politically motivated or had a bias towards one side or the other, the FBI and the DOJ labeled these parents and people terrorists. And so one side of the political party, though, said, oh, that's perfect. Yeah, do that. Screw these people, right? But the reality is those same, that most of those group of people that said, no, FBI and DOJ should definitely be ruling terrorists because of what something someone says or free speech or whatever, those same people are the ones that will riot based on police brutality. But the reality is, it's not much different.

I mean, it's not. And I'm not going to get into COVID thing. You guys can listen to so many of our COVID podcast. But, you know, listen, the COVID narrative and the response to COVID and all of that stuff was government. It was a government thing. It was the government that said, we're doing it this way and no other way. And if you disagree, you're a terrorist.

And if you disagree, you're going to have a medical license taken. And the amount of people that probably died because of that, because of that, of government overreach, because of the government corruption and power that they utilized against the people, millions of people died, in my opinion. And so now you're looking at this issue as police brutality. Yes, we have people that die at the hands of police. But we also have people that die at the hands of the government and their decisions on a daily basis because of corruption. Exactly.

And that's what I hope that Tyree Nichols can, maybe his death can be used to wake people up, to bring people together. We cannot be divided on this. We cannot be divided against the guy. We just can't. Some people feel like it was a racial thing because they said if it was Tyree in a white person's body, would these guys have pulled them out the same way? Would they have been as brutal with this person if he was a white dude, right?

Would it be the exact same thing? I don't know. I don't know. That's a weird, that's a, it's a weird question to ask because why would they not? I mean, they're, but you have to think about maybe the area they're in is probably prominent black people, right? There's not a lot of white people there. And they're trained to be buff and, you know, go after all these bad people. And, you know, but that goes back to, oh, he's black, he must be in a gang.

So is it racially motivated or not? I don't know. But I'm not going to say, I'm not, I can't. There's white, there's white people in games. gangs too. Not, I don't. Oh, there are. Well, I know there's a lot of mixing people in games.

Yeah, and they're on their own, they're usually on gigs. But there are a lot of white people in black gangs. Crips, bloods, there are white people in those gangs, if I'm not mistaken. I mean, actually, I know, I know there's white people in those gangs. I've seen those people in those people in those areas. It's just you're not going to find very many white people in that, those areas of town where the gang things are because there's not as many white people involved in that stuff, I guess, in those areas, right?

in those particular situations. Right. And it goes back to socio-economic status. Yeah, white people have their own gangs and stuff, but there are white people in those gangs as well, right? I mean, a lot of people will think of white people and say militias or stuff like that, right? Yeah, or whatever, yeah. Yeah, I mean, so even the KKK thing, you know, you got KKK, which there's not as many or maybe there's, I don't know, but, you know, you got Black Panthers, there's the whole thing. But I don't know. I mean, you asked the question.

Yeah. Would it be would have been the same outcome if it was a white dude? I will put it this way. In my opinion, I think if a white guy was pulled over under the exact same circumstances, I think probably based on that particular night, that situation, for whatever reason that happened that night, could have been one or two dudes pissed off about something that night, whatever the case was.

I just don't see how you would say that five black guys that are cops that are in this unit would go easier on a white guy. To me, that doesn't make sense, but And going to say, talking about race, if it was five black guys against one white guy, there probably would not be riots because they just don't do that when it's a white person. But if it was five white cops this night on this black guy, it would be the summer of love all over again. Oh, yeah, it would be riots and things would already be burning down. And I'm just speaking the truth right here, guys. It is true.

I mean, that is true, 100%. And honestly, that's why you're not seeing a whole ton about it. That's why you're really not seeing a lot of the riots. Yeah, that's why you didn't hear about this. It happened January 7th. This is now, what is the date today? January what? Yeah, it's the 29th.

29th, a month later. Yeah. We're not hearing anything about it until the body cam comes out. Like, what the hell? So, yeah, so let's break this down real quick. The arrest and death of Tyree Nichols in Memphis on January 7th, sparked investigations at the state and federal levels, obviously outrage across the country.

And so we're going to talk about the timeline of events starting with a traffic stop on January 7th and Nichols' death. And we're going to talk about the reaction of his family. We're going to also bring or talk about, I want to actually play Alveda King, which is the niece of Martin Luther King. Right, yeah.

She's Martin Luther King, Jr. I think her position and stance on it and all of that is literally the most reality that we can really be thinking of. And this is something we're trying to say too is like, we got to quit making stuff about race. And whether or not it is or isn't, and the reason I say that is because whether or not it is or isn't, we have to wake up and we got to look across the aisle no matter what. We've got to look at everyone across the aisle and say we are all human beings. It doesn't matter about race.

Corruptions, corruptions. Police brutality is police brutality. And everyone needs to stand again. But both sides needs to scan against all corruption and all things. Together. Yeah, because listen,

the reality is that people should be united. And the government also understands and realizes that if people is united, then they are going to be held accountable by the people, which is what the Constitution was literally made for. But the government knows

that they cannot get away with the stuff they get away with if the people are united. There's no way you can get away with the shit they get away with now. There's no way. You're so right. The government

is here to divide the people so they can conquer us. They're conquering everyone. Yeah. And honestly, I think that was, you know, the political party system, the two-party system was invented to divide. I think it was invented to make sure that the people really truly never had more power than the government, although there are way more people than the government. You had to find a way to divide and the best way to do that as a political system, a party, a two-party system. I know people disagree with that. You can say we have democracy and all this stuff, but we're slowly losing that just based on the divide and how intense things are nowadays, and then you introduce social media and all that. But, um, so the videos

obviously have been released, uh, from Memphis PD and it's been released in four parts. The first video was titled video one and it shows a portion of a traffic stop where Nichols is outside of his car on the ground. Officers are trying to handcuff him and a struggle ensues. Nichols breaks free from officers and runs away. He runs down the street. These two officers, I believe that we're trying to handcuff them. They try to run, obviously very out of shape for whatever reason. Don't run very far. I'm not laughing at this situation, but they were out of shape and that's another problem with the cops. But that's not just what happened. Like, that video showed them yanking him out of the car, putting him on the ground, being very brutal with this kid,

and he didn't even know what he did. Yeah. Yeah, and, yeah. Video two, three, and four show multiple officers restrained, threatened, and beat him. do the graphic nature of those videos there's there's so many there's only so many places you can actually see them and you know so YouTube I think is taking down full videos because of how graphic they are and when we say graphic it's not like someone

getting shot in the face or whatever but I think it's almost as bad seeing someone beaten until they and especially knowing that they're dead basically and then they waited after all this I know I'm getting off your timeline but darn it they waited 12

20 minutes after they beat the shit out of him for him to get any kind of response. And this poor kid went through all this beating. He could barely even talk. Yeah, he could not talk. They dragged him to the cop car and he was just sitting there and they're all like dispersing, talking. There was one officer actually in the body cam. Sorry, I didn't interrupt you. That's okay.

But there's one officer. It says, man, now it's fun. You know. Are you kidding me? Like, give me a damn break. Sorry, go ahead, Chad. But anyway, so this is how it starts. Tyree Nichols was pulled over by police for an alleged traffic violation,

and supposedly it was reckless driving, as they say. And this was after he said he was photographing a sunset, according to accounts from his family. And his family would actually later kind of show this, however. But a confrontation ensues, he is brutally beaten by five Memphis police officers in an encounter that is recorded by police body cameras. On January 8th, Memphis police say in a statement, the officers attempted to stop a man for reckless driving on January 7th,

and he was taken to a hospital and critical condition after two confrontations. The first description of what happened says one confrontation occurred when officers approached a vehicle, and the suspect fled on foot. Officers pursued, and another confrontation occurred when they took him into custody. Police said the subject complained of shortness of breath and was taken to a hospital. Due to his condition, police contacted the police contacted. the Shelby County District Attorney General's Office, which asked the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation

to conduct a use-of-force investigation. January 10th, the Tennessee Bureau of investigation says the man involved in the altercation when Memphis police officers has to come to his injuries and identifies him as 29-year-old Tyree D. Nichols, a black man. January 14th, family friends, and supporters of Nichols protests in front of the Memphis Police Station and call for police to release body camera video of the arrest.

Nichols' stepfather, Rodney Wells, tells local media that his stepson suffered cardiac arrest and kidney failure because of the beating by officers. January 15th, police chief Carolyn Davis says she has reviewed information on the encounter and decided to take immediate action by serving notice of policy violations to the officers. And then January 16th, Civil Rights Attorney Ben Crump announces he is representing the Nichols family and calls them police to release body cameras and surveillance video from the traffic stop. Meanwhile, protesters gather at a Civil Rights Museum for the release of the police body cam video. and they call for the officers to be charged. And then on the 18th, the U.S. Department of Justice announces that it has opened a civil rights investigation. January 20th, the five officers involved in the arrest are fired after an internal investigation finds they used excessive force,

fell to intervene and fell to render aid. They are identified as Tadarius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Emmett Martin III, Desmond Mills Jr., and Justin Smith, all five are black. January 23rd, Nichols family views the police video with their attorneys who say it shows Nichols being beaten for three minutes in a savage encounter reminiscent of the infamous 1991 beating of Los Angeles motorist Rodney King. The video shows Nichols was shocked, pepper sprayed, and restrained after he was pulled over minutes from his home while returning from a suburban park where he had taken photos of the sunset.

Crump says the family has agreed to investigators, agreed to investigators, request due delay making the video public so as not to risk compromising the criminal investigation. But on January 24th, Shelby County District Attorney Steve Morrooy says the release of police video will be carefully timed to avoid the chance that suspects

or witnesses tailored their statements to what they say, or sorry, to what they saw in the video and asked the public for patients. The timetable ranks activists who expected the video to be released after the Nichols family viewed it. Meanwhile, Memphis Fire Department says two

employees involved in the initial care of Nichols that night of his arrest have been removed from their duty while the agency conducts an investigation. So it sounds like just from this perspective, there was firefighters that I guess were kind of going along with the cops and just didn't want to, they didn't even want to screw with this guy. I'm about to damn cry again.

But anyways, don't cry. We've got to get through this. January 25th, Davis, the police chief caused the officer's actions heinous, reckless, and inhumane, and makes a plea for people to protest peacefully when the video is made public. She says in a statement issued on social media,

that other officers are still being investigated for violating the department policy and that a complete and independent review will be conducted of the department specialized units. January 26, the five officers are charged with murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct, and official oppression. Morroy says that each played different roles in the killing, but they are all responsible. Morrill also announces that the video the traffic stop will be released into the public for the following evening. Nichols' parents say they are satisfied

with the charges against the officers. At an evening of candlelight vigil, Nichols' mother pleads with supporters to protest in peace where the horrific video footage is released. And then hours before the video is to be released, the police chief says that she has not been able to substantiate the reckless driving allegation

that prompted to stop. So she can't even, you know, based on cameras or anything, they're like, yeah, we don't know why they stop this guy. The community takes steps to repair for the release including school cancellations of afterclass activities and early closures of places such as Memphis power companies, community offices, and University of Memphis. And so the video was released.

There were protests, none, I believe, so far, of which were violent. I think the only thing that was somewhat violent is in New York City where they were busting in the windshield of a cop car. But nothing like last summer or the two summers ago whenever it was. Man, it's, you know, and to Sherry's point, There was a part of the video where they have him on the ground and they're beating him or whatever. And this guy's like, I think this was like in the beginning sort of when he was actually able to scream or talk.

But he was screaming for his mom because remember he was pulled over close to where his house was. And it's just like, you know, this. So it kills me that, especially that part, because I'm a mother too. And I have a 22 year old. And just to imagine him. wanting his mom like that. Like it just, it kills me. Now listen,

I know that we are a podcast where we talk about conspiracy theories and all this crazy stuff the government does. But listen, there is no question that this happened. And there's no question that this was awful and heinous. And whereas I know that a lot of you are listening to us, you know, you guys are probably, I mean, at least some of you are law enforcement supporters. And we are too.

Like, we support law and order, you know, on a whole basis. Well, we've also always said that it's not all, no position and no position is all perfect. But even more so, when you are in a position of power, you have to be held to a higher standard. Yeah. You have to be. But I'm saying these five cops gave all cops a bad name again. And every time something like this happens, they're putting other cops' lives in jeopardy. Example, I put something on my Facebook.

about how, you know, disgusted and how horrific this was. And, you know, one of the responses was cops better wear bulletproof vests and helmets because I can see 100 cops dying now after this stuff. Yeah. But this is, all police officers get the backlash from bad cops like this. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's one of those things.

And this is one profession especially. That it is when officers nowadays do something bad. And listen, I will say this. The majority of police officers are good. Majority. But also being around officers and seeing how things work. And also talking to officers and other departments, I do know that leadership is everything.

And so seeing this thing, right, seeing this specialized unit, the scorpion unit, yeah. Seeing this unit be as bad behaved as they were, I would, you know, what I would be doing is if I was an attorney for either the family or whatever, I would be pulling everything they've done, especially these five officers. And since they've been with the department and looking at whether it be potential deaths, use of force, everything, because this probably was not the first time necessarily.

Right. It probably wasn't. out some kid that's looking at a sunset and they're pulling him over for reckless driving and do this to him. But I've also heard rumors, Chad. I'm just, I have to put this out here. I have heard rumors. But it's a rumor which I think is BS. Yeah, but I have heard rumors that supposedly Tyree was dating one of the wives of these cops is what I heard. Yeah, that was a rumor. I mean, we have heard it in a couple of places, but I, who knows? Even if that's the case, these guys broke the law.

Yeah. They broke the law and they killed a dude over maybe dating somebody's wife. Which I doubt. And brutally killed him. I mean, listen, you know, okay, let's just say the rumor is true, right? Which we have no idea. But, I mean, it would, there was a lot of people who are saying. But at least give you a motive, right?

Well, yeah, but there was a lot of people that were saying, you know, it looked very personal almost. You know, like they had something against this guy. And maybe that's the possibility I mean like I said it's a it's a rumor We have zero clue whether that was the case or not But regardless of whether it freaking was the case It still is a murder It doesn't matter

Yeah and but I don't know I just who knows who knows But regardless Even if that was the case These are these are Say that's one officer You have a police department Specialized unit beating the shit out of this guy

And using their power regardless of what the reason is, they used their power of authority to easily kill someone. I mean, they manipulated their way into killing someone. And listen, this particular situation is going to cause more people,

and especially black people, and I do see it from other perspectives, but everybody, right? I mean, everyone. It's going to cause everyone... But especially black men. Well, yeah, but it's going to cause everyone to, when they're pulled over,

especially asshole, Because listen, there are asshole police officers. Oh, there's a lot of them. I've been pulled over by a bunch of them. And I have worked with some of those. And I know. And they are, you know, there are certain departments that, you know, their system is asshole. It starts at the top.

And if you are not a part of that asshole mentality of like, hey, we got to be badasses and assholes. And if you're not a part of our system, you're just a good dude that wants to actually protect and serve and, like, really do the genuine. police thing? No, no, you're not going to fit in here. There are departments across the country like that. Absolutely. And I know of one police officer for sure that that happens to that this dude is a good dude, but he never gets promoted to anything because he's a good dude. Yeah. That's all I'm going to say.

Yeah, and that's our local department. Yeah. Yeah, too. So. It's a friend of mine that lives like two streets down. Yeah. And that happens all the time. I mean, it happens in many departments across country.

and you know look I think this is what we have to this is something we have to take from this when I say I'm a libertarian more so than anything is because we have to we have to understand that we are all people and before we talk any more about this

actually I just remember this I want to play and actually we have invited Avita King she is a doctor actually she has a PhD and she we invited her on the podcast which is very short notice and it's the weekend

but hopefully we can actually get her on the show because I want to get her on the show I want to obviously we've done her you know her uncles episode Martin Luther King Jr. and the government side of that and the corruption side of that but her stance

and like her belief and her thought process she's very well spoken the way she talks about what is actually going on in this world is so good to hear. It's so refreshing. And so I want to play this to you guys for a minute. And I want you just to listen to this and then we'll be right back with you as soon as this is over. Hego. When you think of the heart of that precious mother who's calling for peace in the midst of that grief, I'm very familiar with that. My uncle was killed, my dad, my grandmother, of course. And it's very difficult. So first, it's important to have that relationship with God,

but you can be comforted and yet comfort others. And so our hearts and prayers are to Tyree's family. Now, this is very important. I'm going to say it, Neil, you have to really think about it. You and I have had this discussion. And we always said that it wasn't about racism and skin color most of the time, even though that issue could be there. This is not because these officers were African-American men, the victim.

Well, not victim, the suspect. Let me be clear with my language. also African-American. But what we have, when we have a shoe first-ask question later's mentality, whether that be with military or with law enforcement or in any situation, we have to step back and think. Martin Luther King, Jr. talked about man's inhumanity to man. We may not think about the fact, even in these situations that we're dealing with human beings, that have families, that have parents, might be parents, all of this.

The officers themselves sometimes are endangered themselves when they go out to do their job. So I'm calling for peace. I'm joining the mother. Let's be peaceful. Let's be prayerful. And take a real examination of what's happening with this escalated violence, the pepper spray, the violence with him on the ground. Oh, my God, my heart was broken. And I want to remember that myself, that we're one blood, one human race,

there can be man's inhumanity to man, whether we are women, children, men, women, any of that. So, Neil, it's time for America to pray and re-examine how we treat each other. We have to learn to live together as brothers and sisters. We must not perish together as schools. We just can't do it, Neil. Yeah, and I 100% agree with that. You know, that's one of the reason I wanted to play that because... But that was a great question Neil was getting ready to ask because Neil was saying,

oh, this is right, but she had a great response. If you guys want to go listen to the interview, the full interview? I didn't realize there were something else. You know me to play it real quick? Yeah. Whatever prompted this, whether it was driving radically... Whatever he had done or was suspected of doing it. Yes, it's an overreaction.

Absolutely. But I was thinking, if this, one of my sons, or even me driving recklessly, I don't think they would be treated the same way. I don't think I would be treated the same way. And it feeds a suspicion out there that there's a different sense of justice or legal treatment or police treatment as a result. Do you think that's a fair criticism? And how do you advise young African-American males, for example, to deal with this? Well, in our community, if the officers have been blended or ethnically blended or white, Latino, and black or Asian, any of that, we could bring that into play.

And there's a saying that we have driving while black. But in this case, you're driving while you're black and you're apprehended by officers who are black. And so just to try to pin race, racially define it again, this is man's inhumanity. to man. Human beings being inhumane to other human beings. Whether or not the suspect had done whatever he may have been guilty of or not, I do believe that often our officers overreact because they're taught to shoot first and ask questions later to not consider the humanity of the suspects. I believe that's a problem. It has to be dealt with. There has to be. be some compassionate training. You know, I talked on one of your shows before about a lady who was

driving. She was anxious. She was pulled over. She happened to have been Caucasian, and they were rough. The officers were rough with her and yelling at her and all of this. And she was worried she had gotten a report about something was wrong with her child at school. So nothing was considered except she was speeding and she was breaking the law and what's wrong with her. And nobody even thought about the ladies' duress. So do we see human beings? these situations on either side, I believe we've got to look at it from a human perspective. God would remind us we are one blood, one human race, Act 1726. So let's treat each other like human beings.

Let's stop being inhumane towards each other. I agree. I agree. And by the way, I do want to touch on this before we forget this. She was saying, you know, well, Neil Cavuto, right? He's Fox News guy. He actually is someone that when even the hydroxychloroquine thing was going on, he was one of the ones that came out was like, Trump is touting this horrible drug and you're going to die. Yeah, basically.

I mean, Neil Cavuto is literally like the Chris, what's the name? Como. No, no, no, no. Well, he's basically that too. Same thing. Yeah. But anyways, he is the guy on Fox that really just wants to go against. the narrative. He wants to push the race stuff and the, and he's for the system, right? Right. So getting

back to your point. But listen, I know we have a lot of, and by the way, I don't use the term African-Americans. And the reason I don't use that is because most people that are black in this country are Americans. Because they're born here. Yeah. So you are an American. And so when we might have African descent, but I have Russian descent. I have Irish. I'm not a Russian. I'm not a Russian American. And I'm not an Irish American. We're all Americans. Yeah. We're all Americans.

And that's one thing that's like, you know, when you tell, when someone says, hey, you're African American, no, if, were you born here? Yeah. Okay. Well, you're an American. And so let's not, let's not even from that term try to divide each other. Because like, you know, we can't do that. Because we're all equal. In this country, we're all equal.

In the world, we're all equal. We're all equal as human beings, as Evita King was saying. And, you know, which goes back to the reason why we did the podcast of Martin Luther King. We're going to get to what I was about to say. But the podcast with Avita King, or not a Vita King, the podcast on Martin Luther King, the reason we did that is because there was an actual trial. There was a court, a hearing that took four to six weeks for testimony from multiple, I think, hundreds of witnesses that determined, and I say this often and often and often. It determined the United States government was actually the reason why Martin Luther King died. I mean, that is a, that is a, that is a, that is a core document.

Yeah. It is not a conspiracy theory. It is, it is the truth. Right. So the reason I say this is, because Martin Luther King is, was someone that, if he was to be alive now and see what is going on as far as how divisive the government is trying to be with, with blacks versus whites and all this system, they use police brutality. They use anything they can. They use politics. They use everything.

And listen, there are people on both sides of the. that are guilty of this, right? They are guilty of being separated, separated. But Martin Luther King would turn his grave. The reason why Martin Luther King really died was because he was someone that as a black man that was someone that both whites and blacks respected, listened to, and understood, and the way of his words, he really did bring people together. And the government saw this person.

that was coming between the government and their plan of divisiveness. They saw Martin Luther King as the biggest threat to what their overall future goals and plans would be. 100%. What happens if how well respected and how well received Martin Luther King was, what happens if he would have stayed alive? What happens if he would have continued his very powerful messages of unity? Martin Luther King didn't come out and say because you're black you are suppressed

or because you're black, whites are bad and because you're black we got to divide and you got to hate whites and because you're black. No, he didn't do that. He just said, we are blacks, we have a dream that all people can come together. All people can love each other. We are human beings.

We are this, you know, is exactly what Alveda said. But the problem is that message was with how big Martin Luther King was getting the government couldn't have it. They could not. have something like that. And so what happens when you have someone that could potentially bring people together? Well, if the government really doesn't like it, it's going to kill people. They're going to kill you. And they assassinated him. They did. And that's one of the reasons why Elon Musk is worried

for his safety because he has now a platform to where people, whether or not it brings people together or not, we don't know. But at the very least, it allows people for discussion. And I think if you actually discuss things enough and you allow discussion, at the very least, you'll allow enough discussion to where you may disagree with what their beliefs are, but you will probably find somewhere in that discourse to come together. You know, you can't just hate people because they say this and they say that, but you can if that person's banned and then and then they say, well, see, they're obviously evil people. So they got banned. F them. They're not even allowed to say this, right? But if you have someone continually allowed to say what they want to say and on both sides,

and you come to a thing, I've gotten arguments with people where they agree with nothing I say, right? And then somewhere in that I'm like, you know what, I actually like you, though. I mean, I think you're a cool dude or a cool girl. We have different opinions, but you know what? After these arguments, we have something in common. Yeah. We're both passionate about something. And there comes a common ground.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, there's always common ground. No matter what. You know what common ground is? That we are alive on this little ball that is spinning in the middle. middle of this giant universe and we are all we have okay and then so why would we be splitting up what all we have which is all of us which if you want to look at eight billion people on this planet eight billion people in comparison to you know a universe that is trillions of light years in diameter

i mean and and who knows how many civilizations and and other living things out there at any time a comet could hit this planet and we are all wiped out forever which i believe is happened multiple times throughout this planet's history. And yet we want to divide each other based on beliefs, politics, race, color. It's stupid. And this goes way beyond just the United States. This is for the whole world. Because obviously, there's tons of countries that hate each other.

They're constantly at war. They're constantly having no peace because they cannot unite. So this is a huge, this is a bigger scale than just the United States of America. Now, I do want to talk to, listen, and I know we have a lot of black guys and girls that listen this show. I mean, actually, many of you have actually become a lot of our close friends. Our speakers. And we still talk to a lot of you guys today. I do want to say it, and I think a lot of you at listen to us, know this anyway, but I want to say that anybody that doesn't know this, especially based on this topic.

So we may get a lot of new listeners that may not ever listen to us, right? I do want to say that no matter what your color is, right? And especially like if you are black and you feel like that you may be targeted by police in any certain situation, regardless of how pissed off you may be for being pulled over for something that you don't agree you are pulled over for. And I'm that way too, right? If I get pulled over and someone has gunpointed at me and trying to rip me out of the car, my initial human reaction, I hate to say this, is like, I'm going to be pissed. And I may not.

I may not. I mean, and that's what's the bad thing is. Like, an officer can handle something and escalate something very fast. Yeah, they tried not to, they did not de-escalate. They did not de-escalate anything. Now, when I was working in the roughest parts of the city, like the roughest parts of the city, and especially as a white guy in all-black areas, which were sectionate housing, you know, the, whatever. or some of these housing areas that were 95% black, right?

My thing was always that, number one, I was going to be humane to people. And you know how I am with people. It doesn't matter who you are. I am that way. I'm, you know, I, regardless, I'm always personable. It doesn't matter what your economical status or, you know, what your status is in life. I don't care. But I also kind of did a little bit of that because I was like, I got to be really nice.

so that like if I ever get in a situation that that goes a long ways. Like just respect goes a long ways. And I found that and I've seen that. Right. And I found that too in my job career or my career as well. Yeah. Yeah, respect goes a long ways. And so even when I was in certain positions of certain types of investigation stuff or any of that stuff,

I would always overly respect people. I would give them the same respect they gave me now if they were being an asshole to me and want to push that. But I always work on what they're doing to me. And even then, I try to, at the very, like, I always tried to be like, hey, look, dude, just chill out, man. Like, we're not here to, like, start shit.

We're trying to figure this out. You know, I was always trying to be like, whatever. And a lot of times when you do that instead of escalating, because a lot of times, like, if you do that to certain officers, they're going to automatically escalate. And what I always did was I did the opposite of that. I was always trying to like, dude, We're cool, right?

I mean, I always try to relate to them. However, and I'm this white dude, and in this entire area of no other white people. And you're like, and you're probably 140 pounds or 170. No, I was 170. 1405. What are you talking about?

170 pounds. You're not a big, big guy either. No, but I mean, but regardless of that. But, you know, keeping in mind, I, I grew up with black guys or black people. I mean, most of my school was, you know, in a predominantly black school. These were my best friends. These were the people that came to my birthday parties, right? And so I didn't feel, you know, out of place in these places.

I mean, you know, even though a lot of these people probably looked at me, like, I was out of place, right? And I shouldn't be here. And there were people that, you know, said that stuff. But the reality is, is that if you can relate to people as people, right? And that's always what I did. Yeah. And not based on color.

just based on you're a human being. Exactly. Yeah. That's exactly my point. But, you know, that's where we have lost everything. We have divided everyone into color or anything. It's the same thing as if I go to a trailer park where it's all a bunch of, I don't know what you want to call. White drunks?

White drunk redneck people, right? And by the way, I mean, that's not bad. It's not bad. There is every class of people that. And by the way, there are rich middle class people that will kill your ass faster than any of those other people that we're talking about. And you go to a domestic violence situation and some dude just beat his wife and maybe he's a CEO at a company. He'll kill you before anybody else will sometimes. I mean, honestly.

But the point is you have to relate. You have to de-escalate. This is what these officers didn't do. They escalated everything. They escalated it from the very beginning. And we cannot make this a black and white issue. We have to make this the issue of human. And that was the point of what I was saying.

Right. When I was in these positions, I was talking these people. And a lot of these people have been through hell. Like a lot of these people started at the bottom. They started because their family were drug addicts or they didn't have parents around. Literally they were living with somebody that was somewhere distant down their family line. I've seen so many of these people. And so they already think life sucks for a lot of it.

I mean, and so when you come and you show up, that it's like you're like, you're like, an object as a police officer as to a lot of these people was, this is just about to make my life worse. Right. Like this is all they see you as. Right. And you as an officer that is protect and serving your community, regardless of whatever you're there for, doesn't matter if you have to, at the end of day, arrest this person because of whatever they did or didn't do. That doesn't mean you have to be an asshole. You can use that opportunity to do something in their life to make them feel good about themselves. And a lot of these people, they have a shitty life. I mean, and it's not just blacks. There's so many people that have shitty lives all over the place. But we have to realize that there is

no humanity. We're losing humanity in law enforcement. I think it's because the people and law enforcement thinks the public in a lot of these stances are, and look, there's huge political divides in law enforcement versus the public. And especially in these communities where they're very pro-black lives matter and that political movement they think all cops are there to kill them or target them and so when you get pulled over

as a black guy and you're in this town you're thinking and your mindset is automatically well all I've heard is I'm a black guy and they're going to kill me right I mean and literally

right and that's what a lot of black guys grow up to believe and know and in some stances it could be true and to me you know I am not a black male but even that I'm a white female Whenever I get stopped

Number one, I'm freaking nervous as hell Because I don't want to be stopped And they scare me to death The first thing I always do is I put my hands on my steering wheel And I wait for them to come to my window And then normally they're like, ma'am, I need your license and registration, whatever And see in this Tyree's situation though

Yeah, they didn't even give them a chance They pulled them out of the damn car Yeah, they did not give them a chance At all, you know, right? And so I, I, I was, would say like, well, just comply no matter what. And I would say, always comply with police. Because you want

to get out there alive, regardless of whether they pulled you over for the right reason or not. In this circumstance, he was complying. Well, I kind of. I mean, he kind of was. I mean, he was pulling away. He would not get on his stomach like they told him. He would not put his hands by his back. That is factual. But

regardless, they should not have killed him and beat the shit at him for this, right? But he should have got on his stomach and put his hands behind his back. He should have done exactly what they told him, and he would probably be alive today. But the reality is that, you know, you can't kill someone because they don't do that either. Right. And in his mind, he probably was scared.

And that's what a lot of people were going to be. And that's why he ran away and took his shirt off when they tased him. Yeah. He was scared shitless. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. I mean, I'm not saying that what he did, I mean, what he did technically was regardless of whether he didn't feel like he did something wrong, he should have got in his stomach

and he should have put his hands on his back and hopefully it would have worked out better for him I don't know that they could have killed him like that but it would have been less likely but he was because he felt like he didn't do anything wrong he wanted to resist

and he was resisting but he was also doing that because all of a sudden these cops come up at him gunpoint I know I get it gunpoint throwing him to the ground he's like what the hell did I do exactly you know

And in that circumstance, you don't know how you're going to react to that. You know, oh, yeah. Well, it's like if you have five of your guys there, right? Like, if you have five of your guys there, like in the Old West days, when someone's going to try to do that shit to you in the Wild West, well, it's going to be who's faster on the gun. You know, this is the way the West used to work. This is the way that our old times used to work.

Nowadays, you had five guys against one. Or I think maybe in the beginning, two guys, which he did manage to get away. But he was probably scared. I get it. Like, I mean, I'm not saying that, like... Because who does it? Who comes to a car?

Like, unless you... Usually that's a felony stop. Yeah. If you did something bad, like rob a bank or kill somebody or kidnap somebody or do something really bad, right? Then I can understand drawing weapons to his car. But this guy was stopped for reckless driving, which we don't even know where that video is. Yeah, actually, the chief said that they cannot even substantiate that claim.

And that's why it goes back to the rumor I heard, because, why else would they do this to somebody? Yeah. I mean, especially if you're a guy, you know you did nothing wrong. And these guys are performing a quote-unquote felony stop, which is a guns drawn, you know, the back. But they didn't just perform that. They went up to the vehicle, pulled his ass out. You know, I mean, it was very violent. And it's hard to just be on your back.

Here's my hands. Here's my. I could not imagine being pulled out of the car with a gun at my head. No, you're right. And how I would respond. Well, and the thing is, though, but that's what I'm saying. And I don't want to say this to say that, like, you should bitch out to tyranny, basically. It's kind of what that is.

I mean, think about it. And think about it in this way. Think about if, and this is what people need to think about. Think about if this is nothing to do with city police or a local gang unit or whatever. Think about if the government finally decides, you know what? We're sick of this internet shit. We're sick of people that don't agree with our agenda on locking them down or doing this. We're going to go and we're going to pull everybody out of their fucking house.

We're going to put them on the ground, handcuff them. Are you going to tell those people just to abide by that? Because, you know, tyranny is just happening and you just got to fucking deal with it. That's the thing, right? Yeah, you're seeing the light. No, no, it's not that I'm seeing the light. I'm saying I always know that. I'm just saying that if you get pulled over by law enforcement,

you can't also tell people like, just don't comply because then that's going to go down a long road of you may not live. Sometimes it does. Yeah. In this case, in this case, he died because of it. Yes. But in other cases,

you see all over the internet, these guys are like, nope, I know my rights, bro. You're not doing this shit to me. Yeah, but even if he would, even if he would have done that, you know, and he even said,

I think he was saying something like, what did I do? Tell me what I did wrong. And they wouldn't. And I think they even used the N word on him. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they did.

I mean, I think I heard that quite a few times. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know what the answer All I'm saying is for for young men, especially, whether it be white or black, it doesn't matter. Like, you do need to comply with police, but I also get the side of like if you didn't do shit wrong. But in that position, you have no power.

Unfortunately, you have zero power. Yeah, you have a man with a gun at your head. Not just a man. You have multiple guys that they're going to ensure if you ever come across these guys, which this is, there are not guys like this everywhere. I mean, we want to make that clear. I think, right? I mean, you know, most of the time, or else we'd hear about all the time.

This is an isolated incident, at least for this, but there's also a lot of corruption and a lot of other shit that we don't hear about. And we do have to understand that. But what I'm telling you, the biggest message that you have to take away from this is that, yes, this was 100% police brutality. It was 100% wrong.

And we have to look at this as an opportunity to understand, that people need to be united. And if people are united, you don't have to have a war. You don't have to have none of that shit. You can just ensure and make sure that, like, we're all free.

We're all whatever. And we can still have law and order. But shit like this will never happen. And I'm glad, listen, I'm glad that these guys are arrested. They'll probably spend the rest of their lives in jail. I hope so. They will. They'll spend the rest of their lives in jail.

jail. And, but unfortunately, you know, there's, there's other cases where you have a, you have a political agenda on one side that's like that really wants any cop that does anything, like the least little thing, even if it's justified, they want them prosecuted. So that's another reason why cops don't want to join police, right? And it is a very risky profession. Oh, my God, I would never be a cop right now. If you have to use, use a force. Because it's scary. And you go to, you go to work every day. worrying about your life and you have to because you're out protecting or you're supposed to be you know the the good cops out there they're out there protecting and serving their community meanwhile you have all these people that hate you they want to shoot you they because of other

cops you know well you're protecting your life not just from someone not shooting you and really bad criminals yeah but what i'm saying is you're protecting your life from just hoping that someone you don't get shot and you can defend yourself but then if you do do defend you defend yourself, are you going to end up in prison the rest of your life, right? I mean, I'm sorry, if you do defend yourself and shoot someone. I mean, your, cops are, they're in a really bad position. They're in a bad place right now. Because not only do you have to worry about getting shot, but you have to worry about if you have to defend yourself, are you going to end up in prison the rest of your life? But we have to think about this too. If we had no law enforcement in this

country, what would this country be like? Well, it would be like the law of West. We had no law. You know, could you have out laws? Well, you would have. outlaws and you would and well I would say I will say this there would be a lot of there probably be a lot less criminals a lot faster well I'm gonna tell you people are gonna be armed and they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna take care of the criminals a lot faster and you think because they're not gonna you know that's the way the wild west used to work or used to work if you were a criminal and you did some shit um like the the show 18 a3 when yeah they took tim McGrath when that guy stole his pocket watch and he uh you know

he was pissed off well I mean they'll kill your ass back in the yeah and I'm telling you I would not pay taxes either. Wow. I mean the thing is... Because the government takes your taxes to do what they want and it might not be what you want them to do with your taxes, with your money. Oh, most of it is. Most of it isn't. This is just, the whole thing

it's wrong. It's, it is crazy that this is happening. But listen, guys, I hope that we can all take this and we can learn a lesson from this. The lesson is that all corruption is bad, no matter what, this is

This young man did not deserve to die whatsoever. And we have to, at the very least, come together and realize that, hey, somehow we got to identify law enforcement agencies that have bad and have these things happen. You don't want people to die at the hands of law enforcement and then later realize that, oh, well, you know, this is, and listen, I'm also not trying to sound like a political pawn on the left, because that's not what it is. This particular case, though, this does happen. And it doesn't just happen to black people. This happens to a lot of people. It does.

I mean, if you look at stats and the FBI statistics, it happens to a lot of people. But it goes back to this, Chad. These guys were not trained properly. Or if they were trained properly, they went against protocol. And their supervisor should have been with them and he should have stopped it.

And if there was no supervisor, then the other guys that came, We're scared of them or something, but there was not protocol in this certain instance. Yeah. I mean, and listen. And if it was, and if it's because of that, you've got to look up at the captain. You got to look up farther. You got to look the captain, and then you're going to see who's above the captain.

Yeah, I mean, this is a situation where, you know, it's not always easy to understand how to fix this. But, you know, I think it starts with leadership. I think, and I think also a lot of these departments in these big cities, they're being overrun by politics. They're being infiltrated by politics. You look at Chicago, you look at the mayor, you look at how that whole situation is where. I mean, that's why the south side of Chicago,

like, that's why the amount of murders are able to happen because the police, like, for a large part, just said, F it. Like, we're not going to go get involved in this because even if we do arrest someone or whatever, or kill someone, if we do kill someone, one of the gang members that are killing everybody, then we're going to probably be put in prison because of just the political atmosphere of Chicago.

Exactly, because they're against them. Or we're going to die. Or we actually arrest someone and they just get let out. I mean, the amount of murders are not solved, especially when you start looking at places like Chicago and Memphis. Reform is what we're talking about here. Well, not just bail reform, but yeah, bell reforms won. Like, they just get out.

Or the amount of murders that are not even solved in these cases. And you know why? Because these guys don't have legal firearms. They don't have none of that shit. They don't care about buying firearms. they get all illegal weapons. Most of them are just, they're everywhere. They don't have, they don't really pay, like, they can't really be tracked.

Right. They intend to do that. But we're getting way off topic with this, but I have to say these guys that are like this is because they're born into it too. They have no choice. These kids, they grow up being 10 years old and they're already initiated into gangs because they have no other choice. You either join the gang and do what you're going to do or they're, they're going to kill you. Yeah, and there are some mothers.

A lot of times it's mothers that are with these kids. A lot of dads are not in a picture. They're usually either dead or in jail, especially in these inner cities like Chicago. So, you know, there are very few mothers, but I have heard and seen of mothers that will do whatever they can to move their kids out of that city, although they may not have any money. They may not have anything. They do. What they should do, like, and I'm not an expert on this. But that's the problem.

They are not putting the tax dollars into these places. They should disperse everyone. Yeah. Like, they should go to South Side and make everyone disperse that it's in these really bad gang-related areas. I don't know. You've got to do something. Or at least to be able to fund people. Right.

Like, instead of sending people COVID checks on this bullshit, like, send mothers that need money to move their kids out of these bad areas. Do that. Instead of sending billions of dollars to Ukraine for their fight. Why don't you send billions of dollars to Chicago to move every mom that wants to move? the hell out of Chicago and start a new life with their kid, moving the hell out of there. Because you can literally change the next generation in Chicago. Yeah. And they're wondering.

Yeah. And they're wondering, why do we have so much crime? It's because they're not investing in that part of their city. No, Black Lives Matter should have done that with all their money. Instead, they bought mansions. And what happened to all that money? They're not helping the people that need help. No, they bought mansions.

That's what they did. They all bought mansions. Oh, this whole thing just pisses me off so bad. But anyways, I'm sorry if I've, I really have said some offensive words tonight, but I, this really gets under my skin. This thing really grabs me. Yeah. Well, it does because, um. Because they're children.

These are children getting killed. Well, and there, I mean, there's 12 year olds. Hell, when I was in, when I was a long, there was a, there was a few 12 year olds that were in gangs even in the area that I was in, right? I mean, I've told you about them, you know, that had, they had weapons. But this goes back to Tyree. He was a child. He was still young. 29.

29. He's still a baby. He's still a baby. He's a baby. Yeah. He lost his entire life because of some dumb assholes. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, we're going to see stuff like this.

You know, and you only tell you who I have to blame for all this shit is I have politics to blame. I have our officials, elected officials. I have elected officials, not just in government, elected officials in law enforcement. I have the power structures in law enforcement and these organizations. And listen, like I said, it goes back to when you defund police and you make police a bad thing to get in, you're going to be left with officers that are less desirable, less about whatever. You're going to have to take officers that you would never probably have taken before. You're going to have to put, and especially in these specialized units.

I don't think, I think we should have probably, we have to, we do need specialized units for these things, but you need good officers. So all the officers are listening, and I know we have quite a few of you guys. You know, do your part, obviously, in making sure that your department is as good as possible. And I know, and by the way, when we talk about this, we're not demonized in law enforcement. We know most law enforcement's good. No, actually, I am praying for law enforcement because I see the backlash that y'all have to go through because of instances like this.

Yeah, instances like this and politics. It's politics that ruin this shit. But guys, we are praying for all of you, and we're praying for all the, just all everybody. We're praying for everybody right now because this country needs prayer more and ever. This world needs prayer more than ever. And we just, the one thing I can say that we need to work more on as people is we got to work more on being humane to each other,

regardless of race or color or even criminal history or whatever, man. Just be nice. You know, be nice to people. Nowadays, I see it all the time. People just want to be assholes of people. I mean,

I saw it today kind of like in Lowe's this dude we passed. Like, I was just like, what does this dude? But I think he was Ukraine and didn't speak English is what I think happened. Really? Oh, I have no idea.

Because when we were loading our stuff, guys were getting off topic. But when we were loading our water heater, I noticed because they had stuff behind us and I could hear he was speaking in either Romanian or Russian. I have no idea. So maybe that's why. Yeah, our water heater busted this weekend.

We've had just all kinds of issues the past week or two, but it's all good. We are at least still alive and unfortunately for Tyree Nichols, he is not. And guys, just be nice to people, be humane, stick up for people that people are, you know, not doing the right thing, especially as law enforcement, you guys got to stick up for the right thing. we all have to do that no matter what we can do we got to do that and we have to pray for each other we have to pray for each other we have to even pray for these police officers families they're going to go through a lot of like their lives will be changed forever too well we got to pray for everybody in that situation it sucks and we pray for obviously for tyree nicholas family yes and listen guys i especially his mom look at this situation either from this podcast as a conspiracy thing that they're trying to put a thing if if they would have been trying to do something to say i'm going to say i'm going to say i'm going to say with this to try to get people against law enforcement. They would have had five white officers do this. This was not the case.

This was, which is also why they're not talking a ton about this. And there's not the riots that you hear. But I am going to play this song, Closing. It's called Riot, Blood Red Sun. Don't go riot. But there's a lot of people nowadays that just feel like they are just so oppressed, not just blacks, but people in general against the government or against just against life, man.

It's it's kind of a weird time to be alive. And I was thinking this last night, it's a weird time to be alive. But there is hope. There is definitely things that we can improve on. And there's things that we can do going forward to make each other's lives better. And I think that sometimes when you are unhappy or depressed or whatever, quit thinking about yourself and try to think about someone else and try to make them happy.

And it might actually just make you happier as a person. Amen. Amen. Maybe that's what we need to do. But we're going to end it with this song, Riot Blood Red Sun. Guys, until next time, the next podcast is going to be government overreach with clear founder and CEO. No, that's coming before. Oh, no, it's after you're right. I'm sorry.

I'm wrong. With clear founder, Nathan Jones. And we got some great podcasts coming up after that too as well. But guys, we love you. Be humane to each other. Love each other. Try to develop relationships with someone you don't know. We've got to be better each other.

because look, we're all we have. So let's love each other. Peace out, guys. Until then, I usually say peace out, but I'm saying peace within tonight. In love. Bye-bye. To dark days, do you have a tear to speak? Don't be scared to stay at the game.