Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO Disclosure, Interdimensional Beings & Higher Consciousness | Psychic Medium Allison Carmany

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Tonight on Investigate Earth, Chad and Sheri sit down with psychic medium and spiritual teacher Allison Carmany for a deep conversation exploring UFO disclosure, interdimensional beings, higher consciousness, intuition, and the hidden connections between the human mind and unexplained phenomena.Why has the government kept UFO files secret for so long? Are UFOs extraterrestrial, interdimensional, or something even stranger? Could consciousness itself play a role in understanding these encounters? Allison shares her perspective on psychic ability, subconscious rewiring, spiritual awakening, and the growing discussion surrounding disclosure and human potential.From MK-Ultra theories and consciousness research to alien encounters and the possibility of realities beyond what we can perceive, this episode dives into some of the biggest questions people are asking right now.Visit Our Merch StoreAllison Carmany InstagramAllison Carmany Youtube

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Aldi. It's not complicated. Hello and welcome to Investigator of Podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're joined by Alison Carmony, a psychic medium and spiritual teacher with a large following across YouTube and Instagram. Allison trained for two years at Lilydale in New York, widely known as one of the world's most respected schools for mediums and psychics. And tonight we'll dive into intuition, higher consciousness, subconsciousness, rewiring, spirituality, and the search for deeper purpose, along with Allison's own experiences and perspectives on the unseen world.

Allison, welcome to the show. We're so excited for this episode because we've talked a lot about similar stuff, but we're glad to have you on tonight's show. I am so excited to be here. No, it's going to be cool. We actually talked a little bit before the show, Allison, and it's interesting because a lot of people think like with podcast, you have all these questions. Everybody knows what's going to be talked about. We actually have no idea what we're going to talk about tonight. But we did briefly talk before the show a little bit.

And you're kind of into a lot of stuff that we've talked about on this podcast where there's the interdimensional side, the UFO side and all of the things that are coming out about that. So that's what I'm most excited to talk to you about. But then also maybe we'll get an MK Ultra and all the government control aspects of that as well. Allison, tell us a little bit about your background. I mentioned a little bit of it. But what is the school that you went to for mediums and psychics? So I had an obsession. I've had an obsession for like 35 years studying higher consciousness and spirituality and the mystics and the experience of that.

So I had been studying all that, but I still hadn't had any sort of crazy experiences. But in 2020, I like this gift of like being able to see these spirits like these interdimensional beings awoken. Like and it had to do with I feel like just being at home, not traveling like finally just staying put in and all the stuff that was happening in my life. And so that brought me to the school, which is where. it's like a closed community with just psychic and mediums. And as soon as I arrived there in the energy, it felt like home. It was like, oh, my God, I ate this energy. I knew I had to be there.

And I would then devote like just fly in every weekend once a month and just study with all the teachers there and learn about all about the unseen spirit world. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's interesting. And so 2020 got you into this. but like who were you before 2020? Was this ever something that you dabbled in or kind of felt like there was something always there?

No, I had no idea. I mean, at that point in time, I was doing coaching, right? And I was doing business coaching, personal coaching. And I was into like personal development, spiritual development, energetics. And I had studied all that stuff. And I combined all that stuff into working with people, but I still hadn't had this awakening yet. And this awakening happened. I was scared.

I didn't know what to do. And that's what brought me to somebody said, oh, you got to go check out the school. They'll help you. They're going to help you understand this. And that's how I got sent there. Damn. I have a fill in this year.

He's going to book a ticket to whatever school this is. Our audience already knows how I am. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. So obviously on this show for nine years, we've talked a lot about interdementality,

just the unseen. realm, there's a lot of stuff we talked about. And in government right now, in politics and in all of mainstream media, all we're hearing about is UFOs and UAPs. And there was a recent meeting allegedly with all of these pastors from across the country. There were various, I guess, U.S. government officials, or at least representatives that went and met with these pastors. And so from what a lot of these pastors said was the reason why we're meeting with you guys is because we want to pre-warn you, to pre-give you something that you must be able to figure out how you're going to talk to your congregation once we release the UFO files. And so obviously there's been a lot

of talk. You know, you have people like Tucker Cross and you have other UFOologists that have said, hey, whatever this is, and some of them that know what they're probably going to release is very dark and unsettling and something that a lot of people are going to not be able to grasp. And I think for the pastor's aspect of it and the reason why the government's meeting with them is because, the government said the congregation is going to have a lot of questions after this is unveiled. And let me first ask you, I know this is a crazy second question, but where are you spiritually? And like, are you, are you a part of a religion? Do you believe in a certain thing?

Or what is your aspect on that? Okay. So as far as religion, I'm not like subscribing to any religion because I feel like that is a way to control the society on a larger level. I believe that there's a source of energy, right? And we're all connected into a source of energy. Now you can call it God. You can call it universe. You can call it oneness. You can call it Allah. Like Buddha, like Shiva, whatever you want to call it. You know, if I was born in India, I would not be called. I would have a different name. I would have multiple gods. And so it's our culture that really dictates like what we believe. Right. So, but the

reality is, is that when we lose connection with that higher source of energy, we lose our faith, we lose purpose and people feel disconnected. Yeah, for sure. Oh, she just hit the nail on the head because I have preached on this podcast because we do have a ton of Christian Republicans on this podcast. And I've always kind of said, well, I feel like religion is a way of government control. And therefore, you know, I am very spiritual. but I refuse to conform to a religion.

You know, I believe in God and whatever you want to call God, but that's who, like, made us, that's who created us. And that's our purpose. It's not so much, you know, being a Muslim or a Christian or a Jewish person. To me, it's more about the spirituality of, you know, being one with whoever your God is. Yeah. Well, and I think, too, you know, with Sherry's experiences and we'll explain. explain this briefly, but, you know, we have this place on the river by the golf course that we go to. And when Sherry talks about certain things, or she'll kind of summons whatever this was, it didn't start that way.

She actually went out there to kind of connect. To ground myself. Took her shoes off. She's like, I just need to connect with. I was stressed out. I was like, I got to connect with Mother Earth. I got to put my feet in the ground and I just have to connect. Yeah, I mean, because, you know, a lot of what we talk about is very stressful.

And especially when you're talking about corruption and you're talking about politics. And it was just one of those nights that she's like, I got to go to the river and I got to just go and relax. I got to go connect. Literally, that's what she said, connect. And that was the first time we started seeing these little orbs that were starting to appear around her. And then every time subsequently after that, not every time, there was a couple of times that these orbs didn't appear. But they started getting more prevalent. And when she seemed like tapped in deeper every single time we went, these orbs became larger within 50 feet of us.

I mean, there was like triangle orbs that looked like huge spotlights that would show up. And it was very, to me, it was very concerning because I didn't know what they were. We actually thought that there was somehow people in the woods. And we went and checked it out. No one was there. And so this has happened multiple occasions. He thought there were people in the woods. I knew what it was.

Yeah. And she knew because she felt it. Like she had this connection. It was something and somehow she connected. And as we were talking, like we had went back one time because. Sherry was a teacher for a long time. She had a couple of her teacher friends show up at the house. It was like one Friday night in the middle of the summer and we go down to the river

and we take them and these things show up and they show up when they're there, which I was very surprised about. I was like, of course, this will be the one time for sure that these things don't show up, but they did. And right after this, like our brand new golf cart battery completely fried. I mean, melted the terminal batteries and everything. my phone completely drained. And then we had to push the golf cart, which was a lot heavier than I've ever thought

a golf cart was going to be like a mile back. Yeah. So whatever that energy was when we were there, it really had an effect on our batteries, the battery terminals, our cell phones, all of that stuff. But my question is, is that what do you think that people right now that are experiencing UAPs and UFOs or even these people like Chris Bledsoe? I'm sure you probably heard about Chris Bloodsoe, where he's, he's, summons these things.

Or Stephen Greer. Or Dr. Stephen Greer where the CE5 experiments, you know, to where they all kind of bring people to certain locations and they all summons these orbs. And what do you think that is? I mean, because you're, you're. This is a thing. Yeah. So, so I believe that there's this physical dimension that we limit, right?

But we are not, not only physical beings. We're spirit. We are spiritual beings. We are spirit. We came from spirit. So there's 13 dimensions, maybe more, but according to quantum physics, that's what, right? So when I'm connecting with the spirit world, with the unseen world, I am here talking in the physical world, but I'm seeing into another dimension. I have multidimensional seeing.

So does everybody else. But the problem is, is that we've taught that we're not. We've closed down our perceptions to believe that what we see is, physical is that's all that's here. And the more that we that our our perception is closed down to what we see, that's all we're going to see. And so I feel like we the the universe is alive. Everything is is alive. Right. So if I want to connect with something and I keep asking or summoning that energy, it is available. It's available to us all. But the reality is religion. keeps people from from this because it's scary.

It's unknown. You know, and it could be dark. That's the reality of it, you know. But this is kind of how I've learned to deal with this. If somebody's out there is interested in exploring about the orbs, exploring about the spirit world or whatever, is that we came down here. When we descended down from spirit into our physical form, we came down here and got free will. Right.

And from that, we can at any time. if we experience something dark, dark spirit or thing. It's like, you're not welcome here. And we can simply just express our free will. And they have to abide by the free will because that's what we've been given. Yeah. So that's interesting. So what you're saying, though, is, I mean, do you know what these things are that we are interacting with?

And I say we, I'm saying people like Sherry, people like you, people like Chris Bloodso. Like, are they angels and demons, which is some of the talk that is coming out from, well, actually here's the thing the government is largely trying to blame the UFO, UAP phenomenon on demons, like primarily all demons. And I've always went back to the Bible, regardless of whether you're a Bible believer or not, the Bible specifically talks about many appearances of angels as well.

It's not always just demons that come down and show themselves or present themselves. I mean, you've got to remember all of the prophets throughout those days that were sent a message, typically from an angel that they say was from God. but what do you think these things are or could it be some type of alien interdimensional being? So I think it's all of the above, right? So there is no light without dark. It's yang and yang.

It's like all exist coexist. So you're not going to just have angels and not have darkness. That's how we know what the light is is by experiencing the darkness. If we never experienced the darkness, we couldn't choose to walk in the light. So yes, you know, we're going to, We're going to, like, we are part of these supposed aliens or, you know, interdimensional beings. I think there is darkness that exists in this.

And there is light beings, too. And it's just like a negative person walking on the planet. It's like, okay, well, this person I can feel is not like a good person. And my dogs know it's not. Right. But like, you know, and it's like, or I feel that this person is good. And that's in this world of AI and fakeness that we're entering in is discernment is what is required. And it's going to be required more than ever before.

And that is really feeling our intuition, which lives in our body to see, okay, like the government's telling me this. It's telling us that they're demons. Okay. But what do I feel in my body? Do I feel more expansive or more contracted? Do I feel light or dark? Heaviness or light. And it's like we're going to have to do that.

when we see somebody speaking on the internet, when we see the government, like, speaking or whatever it is, you know what I mean? Because everything from this point on can be a complete lot. Yeah, absolutely. And do you think, though, that, like, okay, for example, why do you think that the UFO topic has been hidden by the government for so long? Do you think there's a reason behind that? I mean, is it, I mean, you know, obviously people say, well, it's because of reverse engineered technology, national security, you know, we're building stuff off of these craft that have been downed. Or do you think it could be something bigger to where it's like they're hiding something? Yeah.

So I think that the biggest thing that the shadow government, because I'm not even saying the government, okay, the shadow government, which is like the top elites, the biggest fear for them is us awakening to higher levels of consciousness. And anytime somebody has an NDA or has an interaction with these supposed aliens or interdimensional beings, they literally awaken. Like they have like telepathic communication. All of a sudden they're psychic or start seeing spirits or they have like like parallel timeline experiences.

Time shifts, time lapse. Like all of that is higher levels of consciousness. And that's what I feel like is the biggest thing they're hiding. So it's like whatever the government's talking about red white, red, blue, like all these like things to distract us is just to. to their biggest fear, which is like we awaken on the planet to who we truly are, which is like these, these, these, um, these, um, beings of that have superhuman, supernatural abilities. Yeah. So, so, so, but with that too, sorry, Sharon, I know you're about to ask,

but with that too, you do still believe, though, like say that Jesus in God and or, or Allah or whatever. You do still believe that could also be a possibility, right? Like with all these things. Like we're not saying necessarily that is 100% not what any of these things are. It's just that seems like the government is saying that whatever these things are more demonic or more like on the bad side. But what I think you're trying to say in some ways is like they could be both, right? I mean, you could interact with things in a way on that realm that are not just bad. So I mean, do I believe it's like the second coming of Jesus? Like, like, like I feel that like if I was born in another country, I wouldn't see Jesus.

Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Right. Like that's a cultural energy. I believe in Christ's consciousness, which is like we are Christ, oh, reawakening. We're awakening to our Christ's bodies, like our Christos bodies, our light bodies. And so like could that second coming of Christ us awakening? And that energy of the Christ's energy awakened through us, I believe more of that than, okay, it's going to be some being that shows up that that is like the all-knowing being.

Because it's, I don't, it's all, it's a one source of energy. It's literally a universal source of energy. But they've got us all divided thinking because more wars are fought over religion than anything else. Yes. Yeah. Okay. If I believe that, you know, this person is bad because they, like, they believe this religion, that gets me separated. And the more I'm separated, the more I'm disconnected for the higher level of consciousness.

It's a game. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. And Sherry, what did you want to say? Well, I was going to back up for just a minute when you're talking about tapping into your consciousness. You know, right now as human beings, we're only, they say we're only able to use 10% of our brain. and if you just think if we tapped into 10, 20 more percent or 30 more percent, what would we be able to do? What would we be able to see?

How would we interact with things that are different than what we interact now? And do you think that there is a reason why we only use part of our brains? Why if, you know, the universe gave us this brain to use, why can we only use a certain part or tap into a certain part of it? because I believe that we are in a system, right? A system is like the matrix and it systematically shut you down and shuts your perception down. Right. If you only believe that your perception is limited to your five senses, that's all you're going to ever be able to access. Right.

If I believe that like I can access the universe and time travel with just sitting in my chair, well then we're in a totally different universe. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, it kind of goes into a little bit of law of attraction. You know, I've read The Secret, for example, the book called The Secret. And, you know, to me, I believe that, you know, whatever you put into the universe for yourself, it'll come to you.

But, you know, if you keep saying, I'm a terrible person. I hate myself. Then you're going to attract people like that. But if you put into the universe, like I used to even practice this when I was going to school and I was going to be late to school. and I had that was at the stoplight. I'm like, green, it's going to turn green. I couldn't say red, but I'm going to turn green. It's going to turn green.

And I think, you know, manifesting your consciousness out there into the universe is a real thing. Do you agree with like the law of attraction, for example? Yeah. I mean, this is the thing is what I believe is that your perception creates your reality. Right. So those emotions and the beliefs and the thoughts are creating your reality in the moments. Like in this moment, it's like the thing is, is what quantum physics states is that there is no past and there is no future. It's just the present moment.

So if in the present moment, you know, I change the thinking that I have, which is like I'm like stuck thinking that I'm a bad person. I'm stuck thinking that I'm not smart or not intelligent. And that. And then what happens is I thought that the day before that, day before that. and then I start that to create that my future. So it's like if I change right now in the present moment, what I'm thinking, what I'm believing,

then that changes the trajectory of my timeline. And according to quantum physics, there's like parallel timelines, all existing, coexisting, based on vibration. So I feel like that's the consciousness is being in a higher level of vibration and consciousness. And I feel like that's what the awakening with these,

with these interdimensional beings is, it's vibration and consciousness. Like, and even like telepathic communication. Yeah. Where you're just download, you're just downloading information. Like, people are awakening out of a planet like instantaneous. And it's because the shifts are happening. The vibration of a planet is raising so high that we're all making, starting to make those shifts and awaken.

And I feel like that's connected with the sun. And that's why they want to block the sun. Right. Right. And do you feel like it kind of goes with the Schumann residence, for example, like the heartbeat of the earth? Yes. Do you think all those, and they're changing? And I think things are out of whack right now because of the change of the vibrations. Right. And this is what how, and even Dolores Canada talks about this is that the earth is going to split into two, 3D, which is, you know, our physical reality and then 5D. And so right now I feel like some of us that are on this path of awakening, probably the people listening to this podcast right now are on the path of awakening, okay, are bridging between the 4D. So between the 3D and the 5D, right? And so it's kind of like my bookshelf. It's like I see all these books on my shelf. I got 100 books, right? But which ones are resonating with me right now? And how Dolores Cannon talks about it is that you just won't see the people in the 3D anymore. Like they just won't, they'll be like, you know,

NPCs in your world. They don't exist, you know, and you're only going to resonate at that higher frequency in where you are. It's kind of like a thought. It's like, once you change your thoughts to be more positive, it's like, well, you're not going to resonate with a thought that, like, I suck, you know? It's like you've changed the way you think. So it's like you're resonating a higher level frequency.

That's what's happening the planet right now. This is not something I'm just saying. This is according to quantum physics. This is according to the Schumann resonance. even according to quantum physics, time is speeding up. So people are like, God, you're going by so fast. Time's actually speeding up. Yeah, and that's interesting because we're talking about human residence.

And that frequency is 7.83 hertz. And so if you actually look at kind of the human brain waves, you know, meditation brainwaves and even body rhythms is because all of those things in that hurts frequency lives in that same frequency as the human resonance, which is basically the frequency generated between the earth. Earth's surface and the ionosphere. And so people call it the Earth's heartbeat. And then a lot of people believe that the heartbeat or body sinks with the Earth's frequency. And so a resting heart rate is measured in beats per minute, not hurts necessarily, but it's much faster in some ways. But there's been a lot of studies that show that heart rate variability and brainwave

activity can produce exact rhythmic patterns that researchers and teachers believe may interact with environmental electromagnetic field. Sorry, that's a lot of big words. So yeah, so you have the human residence and that's why literally, I think it wasn't not long after we did the human residence episode is when the share, it's like,

I'm going to go connect with the earth and take my shoes off to, you know, we were down by the river, we're in the sand. Yeah. And just kind of just, hopefully it draws this bad energy out of me and that's kind of the way you felt. But it was weird at the time, I was in the first time we ever experienced seeing lights.

I didn't see anything around me, but Chad's like, I see these little red, like, dots all around you. And he videoed them. And then we had a shaman on the podcast. And I asked him about it. He's like, well, when they're red like that, it kind of sounds like that's evil. Or bad energy is what we thought. But who knows?

But maybe the bad energy was coming out. Yeah. But this is the thing, guys, is it the reality is it that coexists with the light. So it could have been. or not been, but it doesn't. The thing is, is that you're not going to know, you know, if I'm talking to a spirit, it's either it could be good or bad. It's like, but the thing is, is it doesn't have to impact you.

You know what I mean? I'm saying then you can summon it. I'm always asking, let me, allow me to connect with the most high. Like, that's always the language I use because, again, you don't know what you're going to be connecting with, right? Because there's a lot in the universe. But I want to go back to what we're just talking about. is grounding to the earth.

Okay, because right now, and I'm not just like bringing this up, this is actually like something big that's happening, is we're in a frequency war, okay? And we are a technology, and we have our own frequency just, and our frequency is the most connected when we're connected to the earth, right?

So grounding through the earth. But what's happening is through the 5G and the 6G and all the frequencies are coming at us, and it's keeping us in a lower vibrational state. And I can actually feel myself like going into this lower vibrational frequencies if I'm exposed to a lot of electromagnetic frequency. Yeah. Okay.

And that's like the 5G. If there's towers around or like even into like a space, sometimes when I'm driving like a lot of that. And this is an assault on our bodies, direct assault for, purpose to keep us in a lower vibrational state. And the way that we can protect our bodies is through what Sherry did was connecting back to the earth and grounding. And that takes 10 minutes a day without your shoes on, going outside, reconnecting back to that shoe in resonance. And that's going to kind of help you. And what study is shown, you can look this up is grounding. It actually takes, it actually

dissipates the radiation and all those electromagnetic frequencies. As your body grounds, you sleep better, your heart rate comes back into sync and a lot of great studies on the grounding. That's very interesting. Yeah, and you're talking about 5G too because Trump recently just announced the 6G, you know, and he started to promote the 6G stuff. And, you know, not conspiracy, but, you know, he literally says that, you know, this is very, this is a must do if you want implantable technologies in humans. And, you know, I, there's a lot of people believe the 5G was already potentially connecting with certain nanotechnologies, whether it be vaccinations, whatever.

You can, you can go on that rabbit hole. But there's a lot of people that believe that 5G was potentially interacting with certain things that people have taken over the past two or three or four years. And now you have this new rollout of 6G, which Trump himself has said is going to be, you know, important, I guess you can say, with implantable. technologies. And this includes the AI brain chips known as the biological interface system to cortex, which is BISC. I mean, they're literally talking about this right now. This is not just conspiracy theory. And then he also said Trump, here, actually, let me, I want to play this because I think this is important exactly what you're talking about here. And I think it's important because people might hear this and be like, well, 5G and all that stuff,

that's crazy. That's ridiculous. Here is actually what Trump. But I want to mention real quick, too, you know, everyone is having these new debates going on about data centers coming around to all these different cities and everybody seems to be against these new data centers for various reasons. And I think that's an important topic. No, absolutely for sure. Here's what Trump said when he was talking about 5G and 6G. Listen. I just, I was a leader on 5G getting that done. and now they're up to six.

Let's do it again? What does that do, give you a little bit deeper view into somebody's skin? I like the cameras the old days. So he just had a nice feature. Now they cover every little, let's see, Michael, you're a good shape. But I tell you, it's the six is coming, huh? So he literally says here, you know, and Trump's one of those people, regardless of whether you hate or love him, he's one of those people.

he's one of those people that cannot keep his mouth shut. And so when he's sitting here in this huge press conference slash whatever they're doing, and he's talking about 5G to 6G, he says, what does it do? It gives you a deeper picture into the skin of people. That's literally what he says. So what the hell does that mean other than what most conspiracy theorists have believed or not even conspiracy? I mean, it's people that know the 5G technology and also know. the nanotechnology that at the very least whether you agree or not the a lot of people believe that

nanotechnology was used in the code vaccine we've had dr robert malone on our show we've had dr peter mccola um we've had all those and robert malone himself said no there is nanotechnology in this because it is a gene therapy robert malone was one of the inventors of mrna technology and so it's like everything that used to seem crazy is now it's it's almost like we it's not reality it's like we've skipped mention Allison to some degree. Yeah. Well, this is the thing is the reality is that we will be interfaced with, you know, we'll be interfaced in with this technology, right?

So we will be part of it. So if you look at the Terminator movie, it's like man against machine or a man merges with machine and or or in the other or in the matrix movie, it's like merge with God or the machine. And that's what's going to happen. So we're going to split. And I feel like the people like under 30, like they're going to take the technology, you know, and because it's a, it's kind of like the, why wouldn't I learn 20 languages be able to be smarter, right? And the people like above that are kind of the old school and they might not want to do to be technology, right? But the reality is, is that our bodies are being bombarded by this nanotechnology, even if we didn't take anything, right? And they're

putting it in our food and all that stuff. And the best way to protect yourself, because you're like, it's only going to increase. Okay. As we raise unconscious on the planet, that's the biggest fear of them. We have, they are going to continue to bombard our bodies, right? And we can only control like what we can input in our bodies. But what's happening around us, we can't control. Right. So what we can do to protect our bodies is through grounding, is through detoxing. And one of the best ways to detox is through the infrared sauna because it's the sweating. Yeah.

And fasting and, you know, electrolytes and lots of water and, you know, healthy, staying as healthy as possible with what you're intaking in your body. You can only control what you can input in your body. The rest is it will be out of your control. And the reality is, is that what the 2030 agenda is that, you know, you, there won't be anything natural. Like they're trying to get rid of everything natural, right? We're natural, you know. And so that is us merging as technology.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. so funny because everybody it was it was so funny to me i always kind of think this is funny but republicans and democrats have been fighting over trans stuff for like years but the reality is what people should have been fighting against was transhumanism which is a completely different thing it is when technology merges with humans and biology which is what they are doing i mean even if you

look at elon musk and neuralink you know and and and although that is an implant into the brain it is starting to merge technology and elin musk himself on jere rogan has said like look we're going to get to a point where we can put a device in your brain offload your consciousness not your consciousness not not really your consciousness but your thoughts and your memories and your it's almost like an algorithm it's going to download your algorithm from your brain put it on a chip to where they can put it in another person and that person would technically be you the difference though i believe is that you can't ever in my opinion replicate the soul and although they're going to always try to figure out a way to replicate mind and thoughts and stuff like that.

I think the soul is a very different thing. And I think that's where probably when you are connecting with the other realm or the other side, I think, don't you think you're probably connecting with your energy, which I think is part of your soul? And it's not your thoughts. It's all of your energy. For sure. Because what they've said is consciousness is not in your brain. It's a receiver. And we have an antenna, which is our third eye, right, that is like under attack, constant attack with fluoride and glossopate and all the chemicals that they want to put because that's our intent to connecting with higher consciousness. But as long as that's calcified, we don't, we can't access the higher realms. And so, you know, it's,

it's doing, like, all of this is like, people. are just like people are just going to start popping and start awakening as this planet as the vibration rises and they won't know how to kind of stabilize to know what's going on. Yeah. You know, and I feel like that's where we have to come back and get grounded back into our bodies and, you know, and get more connect because there's this other connection. Once you start to awaken, you go up here to this energy, but then you're disconnected, right? your spiritual bypassing.

Oh, everything's great. But the reality is, no, I can't pay my rent. I can't. Like, you know, my relationship sucks. It's like coming back in, we decided to become embodied, right? So it's becoming embodied and integrated. And as we ground deeper into our bodies that we've chosen to be here, the more we can expand up into higher levels of consciousness.

Yeah. Well, I was going to ask you what you thought about DMT. But yeah. What do you think about? about DMT, right? I mean, is that a drug that somehow opens up something that most people can't get? Yes. So DMT is a natural occurring molecule that we already have. And Dr. Joe Dispenza, do you guys know him? I've heard of him. I don't know no him. He wrote a bunch of books and he's a spiritual teacher. He does meditation, but it's beyond meditation. But one of the things is he

at his seminars, he's helping people to have this experience of the DMT, have access to this DMT without actually taking it. And people can access his stuff like by going online to do his meditations and stuff. But it puts you in an altered state of consciousness to access some of that DMT that's already naturally occurring. But it put like by me doing a lot of his meditations, I've experienced, you know, these other worlds. and these DMT experiences that I've actually taken ayahuasca and had these DMT experiences, but I can access them just by doing the meditations. And I think that anytime the government bans something, okay, there's something behind it, some sort of truth behind it, and why are they banning it?

Especially natural remedies, yeah. Yeah, I think there's a lot. The psychedelics and the DMT and all this stuff takes you quicker. on the path of consciousness, awakening your consciousness. But you don't have to take that stuff. Yeah. You know,

you can, you can naturally do it by making choice, like moving on the path, but that can quicken the process. Yeah. And did you say you've taken it before or Iowaska or no? I've taken it before. Yeah.

Okay. And how was your experience? I didn't have, I didn't have the greater experience. Because what happens is it awakens like everything. And so all that shadow, all that ego, all that stuff that you kind of like put away, you are like having, you're experiencing it.

Yeah. You're facing it. And it, I had really dark experiences like it while I've been on it, but like in the end result was positive. You know, it's kind of like, okay, I get it like kind of like, okay, it's negative experience, go to the dentist. But then afterwards it's, you know, like positive. experience. So, you know, it's the reality is awakening is not some love and light experience.

Like the awakening is awakening to the truth that you've not, that you've been lied to. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. And my question was just about a step lower than what Chad went to way up here. And I was just going to ask about the meditation. And is that a way to open your consciousness more that you wouldn't have to take. these drugs if you prefer not to. For sure. Like I recommend meditation for every single person, like if they want to awaken on this path

because it's really finally getting still within your body and connecting, connecting to yourself, connecting to your own energy. And then ultimately we'll connect you to that higher source of energy. Now, is there a certain way that people meditate? Do they go through stages or like to me, you know, Kind of like when I, I guess when I start talking in my mind and then, you know, like I talk to God all the time or I talk to whoever it is or I start, you know, just having something in here. Is that what meditation is? Yeah. So, I mean, the thing is some people like are going to sit still and do meditation, right? So it's like, so maybe walking is a meditation or somebody's getting the information where they're downloading information. That's really what you're talking about. You're getting these downloads or this voice coming through you.

This is the thing. Is our soul, and quantum physics says us, I'm not saying this, is that you are in retrocausal to things, which means that your soul already knows what your future is. And it's guiding you. But the problem is, is that a lot of times we're not in an alignment with the soul, right? So it's like we're overriding those, that higher self or the soul, right? It's like, oh, well, the mind tells me that this person is good, right? It's like, you know, but the gut and that soul feeling is like, it doesn't feel right. This relationship doesn't feel right. But we override that. He looks good on paper. This job looks good on paper, right? It's like, but we override that.

But through connection with meditation, and it really helps you to get more connected to that inner voice. Yeah. You know, not the negative inner voice because we all have that peanut. Gary's like judgment, negative. But once you get, you know, you start that meditation in the beginning, it's like a river of thoughts. And how I see it is like, if you haven't vacuumed your carpet in like 10 years, it's like there's going to be a lot of dirt and dust and you're going to have to get through the layers.

It's to be a stream of thoughts. But after a while, thoughts like take more space and it's more space. But you're not going to get rid of the thoughts, right? It's just more space between the thoughts. and through that you become more conscious because it's like oh man I just thought that I suck like okay I'm aware of that thought that I was thinking right and that's where we go to 30,000 view to be aware to be more conscious that that thought oh like reset what do I want to think instead because our brain is neuroplastic which like neuroplasticity which means that

our brain can be rewired but we have roastery. ways that go to, oh, negative, thought, judgment, and all these negative things, and all those roads are well driven on. But we can reset those and say, hey, like, oh, you're amazing. Hey, you're worth a million dollars, you know, and it's like we can retrain our brain, but remember, we're a byproduct of the system. And we've been programmed before we even born to believe the things that we believe about ourselves. Yeah. Right. And so that is like part of, that higher levels of consciousness starting to awaken that is through meditation. Well, let me ask you this.

So we haven't talked a lot about this, but the psychic and medium thing, what is your method of, do you say that that's connecting with people, their energy, their, how do you explain psychic medium? And is it always just trying to tell who someone is or their future, past, whatever, or is there other things involved in that? Okay. So a psychic is, all they are is someone that connects with some, connects with energy.

Yeah. Right. And they have more tuned in to sensitivities, sensitivities of energy, right? But the reality is everybody's psychic. But we've shut down those psychic senses because they're bad, right? But so let's call it intuition because that's more socially accepted, right? So it's like that intuition is what we feel. what we like hear, you know, those voices that Sherry was talking about, what we might see in it, not in

this physical realm, but might see beyond this realm, right? And, and, um, kind of that's the first tapping into that psychic thing. Okay. So like, I am trained as a psychic, right? But I, all that means is that I have lots of experience working with people. And all I'm doing when I connect and with somebody is I'm connecting into their vibration and their frequency and their field around them and seeing what's going on right now. Like what do they need? What do they need to know about right now? Right.

And that's the psychic, right? Now the mediumship, just because someone's psychic doesn't mean they're a medium. Okay. A mediumship is kind of like is different. Okay. It's like kind of like if you're a doctor, okay, you'd be a doctor, but then you could specialize in pediatrics, right? So it's like a specialty of a psychic, right?

So a medium is someone that connects in with spirit. S psychic is connecting with a person or energy. Medium connects in with spirit. So that could be their dimensional beings. That could be angels, demons. That could be that could be past loved ones. Okay. I got you.

And it's just somebody that's, and I feel like this one is a little like it's, this would take a lot more training and I don't know like how natural it is to be a medium. Like you know, like you'd probably have to do a lot more training because it's something where you have to really tune in. And I have to be at a higher level of vibration to be the telephone between the spirit world and the physical world. And that's all I am. I'm just the connection line between the two worlds. And I just connect between the two worlds and then I relay the message. and I feel like people could learn to do that.

And you get better. Well, I just want to ask you, too, because like I told you before we even started this podcast, that I had some kind of connection to kind of spiritual entities, I guess, since I was a very young child, I've experienced it. I've even had the paralysis. When, what's it? Paralysis, yeah. When I'm awake and I, you know, because a lot of the,

of times these are like we were talked about you know everything comes to you it can be good and it can be bad i've had a lot of bad things come to me where you know you can't scream out your eyes are wide open um even sherry has almost bit my freaking arm off before in the middle of the night two or three times like i have woke up with her grasping my arm and biting me as hard as she can in her sleep which is crazy never had that ever happened but it did yeah oh now i forgot the question my question was, well, you're talking about sleep paralysis.

You've had a little bit everything. But I mean, you have to come back to my question. Let me answer that for you, Sherry. I feel like this is the thing

is that you're not alone in these experiences. Remember, this is a normal, natural thing that we should all be connected to. But because of our matrix and our society, we've been systematically

disconnected from that multi-dimensional, fractional thinking. Right? We're like, we're the universe. Like in in like if you think it's like we're we're a fractal of the universe and it's like our perception is tuned into this small little like world right and so all it is is just the more expansive way of experiencing the reality and you felt safe in your dreams to experience that right and to process something that you weren't able to process in your waking life. And so there was a message that.

you may be received, you know, through the unconscious. Well, and so I have a question, because this is a two-part question. Demon possession and exorcisms, do you believe that's real? Okay. So how I see demons is I see demons as thoughts, okay? And when I see a lot of darker energy is when I feel like addiction, people are gone unconscious through addiction, right? And then like demons can kind of take over their consciousness.

You know, I don't know if it's like actual physical beings, but how I see it energetically is it's through the thought process. It's through the beliefs. It's through the darker energy coming through them. It's like we can all walk down the street and see somebody. It's like, you know, this person, you can tell they've got heavy energy. they have a lot of trauma they're carrying their thoughts are you could just tell by looking at them they're not a light airy carefree being right so it's like that's kind of how i see like somebody under demonic like thing is like that you're vibrating at that frequency if i vibrate at that

lower frequency those thoughts of like those negative thoughts are all going to be that resonant energy So I'm going to attract more of that resonant energy. You know, and it's like addiction, people in addiction. They're attracting more people in addiction. They're attracting more negative things. And it just gets, their energy gets darker and darker. You know, they've gone unconscious. But what is it consciousness about?

It's about awakening, right? And awakening to the light. Right? So it's like we all have that dark, demon, demonic thoughts. Yeah. And we have to put light on them to, to like, to become more conscious. Well, I do have two clips.

And the reason why I want to play these clips, I think, I think that's important because as have you, I'm sure you probably heard of Sean Ryan before. And he explains in this one clip, which demons are involved in possession cases with the world's top exorcist. And it's kind of interesting to hear this. And then there's another clip I also want to hear or I also want to play you because I think as we get into the interdimensional aspect and some of the biblical stuff, I think a lot of our audience would appreciate hearing this and then kind of get in your opinion on this.

But listen to what the top exorcists in the world from the Catholic Church, obviously, says about some of his experiences. It's not that long, but we'll hear that. Listen. Billions, literally. When God created all the angels, he created the entire hierarchy of angels instantaneously all at once. Starting from the seraphim, which is at the top, all the way down to just angels at the bottom. Of the class of the angels alone, there's one subset, which is the guardian angels.

And every human being that has basically been conceived has had a guardian angel created specifically for that particular individual. So you're talking billions just in that one subclass. The number of angels that fell is from Book of Revelation where Satan took a third of the stars. Now, not a third get to possess or have much to do with us in this life. Most of the possessions that we see are from the top rank, which is the top three choirs. The thrones, the cherubim and the seraphim. You see Satan, Lucifer and Bielzbo, but then would also be Ball, Asmodaeus, Levias, and Lilith, Balthamette, Moloch. There's also other ones like Abadon, where they're kind of in the middle.

You don't see too many in the middle tier. Where do we start? Well, at the very top, Satan Lucifer and Bielsbub, the way they manifest is different. As I mentioned, I've had all three. I've had Lucifer in about five cases Bialzbo. I've had in three, but I've got one cases protracted. I might have had Satan. Satan is the father of life.

Who's the inversion of God, the Father. Lucifer is the inversion of Christ. It's the inversion of what you see in the dial. Bollic realm. Underneath this trifricated personality are all the other demons fall underneath what they call the five generals. Ball, who's a demon of impurity. So the first thing he does, he drives impurity in a culture. And once the culture gives into that, you have homosexuality, which is a rise. The demon of homosexuality in men is Asmodeus. With women, there's two, Lilith, which is the demon of homosexuality in the passive kind, more feminine. But then there's Leviathan,

which is the demon of homosexuality and women of the more masculine or aggressive kind. These are the women I call them, they're heavy on the heels. And then the last one is Moloch or Balthamette. And in my experience, it tends to be Balfemant because I've had him. But it doesn't mean necessarily that it's not Mollock, too, it's just a demon of child sacrifice. So if you look at the progression and a culture, and this is actually true of almost every culture, that they're morals and collapse. It starts with problems with impurity, that is, ball gets in. Then you get a rise of homosexuality, and then you'll end up with child sacrifice, which is what abortion basically is. That's actually why you see the Satanist trying to erect staff.

of him. And the statue is, of course, surrounded by children. The reasons are trying to get pro-abortion legislation passed or maintained. And then underneath them are various other demons, where they're actually out in the hierarchy we don't necessarily know other than. Most of them are under one of those five. Is this all recorded? Historically, to be an exorcist was done by mentorships and you'd learn the names of demons and you'd see them in session. But because of the number of exorcists collapsed in the church, now they're just trying to get it back up off the ground. We teach classes, actually. We are actually. actually in the process of building a database.

The going forward, Exorcists, if they come across somebody, they can just quickly go take a look at the database and get a sense of his history. This is what the guy's weaknesses are. This is what got him out. Well, I just think it's interesting. I don't want to say anything bad about Catholics, but I'm just saying it's very interesting how a Catholic priest is talking about homosexuality and demons. But either way.

Well, just real quick, I just want to put my word. One word I wrote down and it kind of correlates with what Allison's saying. And it's impurities. Yeah, but this guy, you know, he goes on on the Sean Rund podcast and talks about how many actual exorcisms he's been a part of. And to where these people are literally possessed, they're doing all this crazy stuff. Kind of similar. I mean, to way people explain it as the movie, the exorcists, where they're like literally out of body, doing all this backbending stuff, crawls and growling and all of this stuff.

And then something happens through an exorcism to where they, I don't know, preach it out. Like, is that real, I guess. And the thing is, like, that's, and that's, what you said earlier, Allison, is the reason why I'm asking us, because you say that, like, you know, there's either the government or religion or whatever that doesn't necessarily want us to interact with a higher consciousness. And, you know, if you talk to Christians or you talk to, you know, people in religion, they'll always tell you, like, for example, the Ouija board or any of that stuff.

never interact with that. You're going to be possessed. It is going to take you down a very dark road. Like, where is the line, I guess, you know? And. Okay. So, yeah. So, so let me answer. This is a big. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Chat does a lot. This is a thing is going back to that we have free will. So if you're playing with the Ouija board or you're doing with dark spirits, you, you have, you, you, you, you, at any time you express your will, they cannot bother you. That's the whole thing about like the shadow government. They have to show us what they're going to do before they do it.

Why? Because we have to agree to it on a collective level for them to fulfill on it. Right? So as far as the dark beings and the demonic beings, okay. So the possession, just like, okay, I worship God. If I worship God, right, I am of God. You can kind of see it in somebody's energy when they're like super religious or whatever.

Like you can see like they worship God. You see it through their energy, right? Just like this is the thing. If I worship God, but there's also people worshiping ball or worshiping Satan. And this is an elite club that worships it. But they are born into that. And who is like to they think that that's normal to be born and to be worshiping that. And they think that's a good thing.

right just like somebody thinks it's a good thing to be worship god right it's like that's their club and that gives them power i i got something to say about that because that's interesting you say that that makes a great point so these people that do worship ball and by the way if you go to cern you go to some of these places uh the world economic forum you go to a lot of these very huge sites for elites or for scientific research especially the large hadron collider in switzerland uh you know they have ball statues or or various weird type of demonic, yeah, statues out there or some people will call demonic. But, you know, don't you think, though, that whether people worship Jesus or God, right? So if people choose Jesus or God, I think most people feel like, hey, I'm choosing Jesus or God

because I want to worship the good, the good in the evil versus good world, right? But don't you think there are definitely people that are knowingly worshiping evil because of what evil has maybe told them or what they think that evil will promise them on this earth physically I think that so first of all remember we live in the universe of dark and light

so we're not going to get rid of the dark no okay the dark allows us to know what the light the dark allows us to choose the light right so the thing is is that all of the Hollywood world they are the spokespeople for the people

behind all that, right? So they're the ones that put out and they worship all of that. They do the satanic rituals like live on TV, you know, whenever there's some sort of like big, like, where a lot of people die. That's a ritual, okay, that they do on a specific day and it's, and it's all, it's a mass ritual. Okay. And that is for the worship of their God. Okay. And they don't think it's a negative thing. Okay. Just like, somebody worships God. They think that that's good because they're receiving power that and like even like I remember watching this clip of this musician's like I think. Yes. What was his name? Travis Scott. Travis Scott.

Well, she might not be talking about that. And like a lot of the other musicians, they are like, they talk about it's like that energy. Once you worship that energy, the energy starts coming through. Just like if I worship God, worshiping God or worshiping this like that comes. the channel and it comes through you, you become possessed by God, you become possessed by the dark, right? And that vibrational frequency comes through you, you know? And so I'm saying that, like, that energy is going out to the world. And every time, like, if I'm like a higher frequency, that my vibration of my voice will just awaken people. Just like we can listen to some of the singers and like, you know, high, it's like, I'm awake.

by just listening to their voice, right? But when we're putting out this into the spokespeople into the world, they're worshipping a dark God, right? That vibration goes out into the universe, goes out to us. We're listening to that music. We're putting it into our thoughts. It's becoming a vibrational frequency within us that we start to access the dark thoughts. We start to access that darker energy.

And that's what I feel like is the possession is like, and like, yes, do people worship? this. Yes, they do. And they worship it for a reason. Like, you know, and they, and by the sacrifices and the bloodsac, they're receiving something like they're receiving something in back from doing it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because like with that point, it's like we've always. Well, it's like the Illuminati in Hollywood. Yeah. And we've always been so like torn spiritually and just all of those things. And my only thing to, to the audience out there, like, that's why I have believed in Jesus just because of all of the physical evidence, I guess, in history that's backed up Jesus and his miracles and all that stuff.

And regardless of all that, I do think at the very least what you explain is very similar almost to the to the T as far as what the Bible explains as far as good versus evil and the spiritual forms and kind of what God says is going to be on the earth versus all that. I just think that I think too, it's like the governments around the world, I do believe, in my opinion, most world governments and leaders are here in power. It seems like with demonic intentions rather than good, regardless of how are you going to look at it. I mean, you can't say that when entire nations are completely destroyed, they're being bombed, innocent civilians are being killed. That's not probably the work of good, I wouldn't think.

Well, this is I don't believe that they're actually human species. So I don't think they're the homeosapian species. Okay. And from like, if you go back to like the Ananaki and all the different species that were on the planet, this is a different species and they worship something different. Like, and they are a darker energy. And we are light beings of God. We, we, if you think of God as the ocean and we're the waves in the ocean.

We're like made of God. And so they're so threatened by us because they can't access that. Because the dark cannot access like to the higher level of consciousness. That's why they need us. That's why like they have put us, they have bred us is for that. Yeah. To access a higher level conscious because they don't have access to that. No, I.

It's interesting. Oh, go ahead. I know your thoughts not then. But the thing is is, is this is the thing is more. the more that we're seeing the darkness show up on TV and in the music and in the world, we're going to see more of that. And the more that we see that is proof that more light is coming onto the planet. Why?

Because they're marketing and broadcasting more darkness because they have to. Yeah. And that's just the reality. And we have nothing to be afraid of because the moment that you have fear and you're afraid, you've entered the darkness. You're in the same. Right? It's like the more you stand in your as a sovereign being and you take your power back from outside sources and you like are in control of your reality, then you can direct your life.

Yeah. And you don't have to be afraid of like what's coming and what's happening like out there. Now recently Matt Gates had gone on to a podcast and said that there was a confidential informant that informed him and he was high up in the guy. government saying basically we are dealing with breeding programs where it's not human, that it may be half human. This is a literal, I mean, this guy was over the- Matt Gates was going to be the attorney general. Yeah, he was going to be an attorney general.

He was over the House Entel committee. He was over, which is he had the top classification of all congressmen or senators. And this guy is saying that, look, I had a, had a military guy. come in, a top guy come in. And not just him that came out and said this, but like there's alien slash human breeding programs. You know what that reminds me of, though, is the book of Enoch. You know, if you go back to the book of Enoch when the watchers came down to 200 fallen. Right. Could that be similar to what you're like describing? And they bred with humans. Yeah. Because why? Because we're made of God. And we have supernatural abilities. But the problem is our

perception is skewed so we can't see that. We don't know that. And before we figure that out, before the planet rises in vibration so high that we remember that, they want to change our genes and change that so we don't awaken. Yeah. Well, and I think this is why we can't be controlled anymore. And I think this is part of the problem of this, you know, this new disclosure coming out about UAPs and like the Christian religion, for example, I guess they've been meeting with all. all these ministers and pastors and trying to give them a heads up of what to expect on this disclosure. And partially, I feel like maybe they are going to come out and say that there is something

that is either mixed with our DNA or something's changed. And it's really going to put a backdoor, I guess, into the Christian religion if this comes out. And maybe that's why they've been hiding this because like we were talking about, I know Chad is a Christian and he's he definitely is a Christian. I am more spiritual. But what if this is the reason why they've been hiding all of this for so long is because, in my opinion, religion is government control or control over us. And they might lose that control if this disclosure comes out. Yeah, they want to control the narrative.

Well, exactly. That's exactly why they're going to pastors and they want to be controlled the narrative. because the thing is we're in a new world right now where you can get information from social media beyond like just their like five outlets, right? But the thing is their objective is to move to one world government

and that's in one world religion. It's like to control the narrative. So like I feel that more information is going to come out about the religion or about this stuff to control the narrative. Why? Because they're losing, control. So they've got to create new narratives to gain control because why? The people are

awakening because of the higher vibrations coming on the planet. You can't stop the vibration. You can't stop it. Yeah, I've been trying to figure out like how the government is going to stop the Great Awakening because that's what's happening right now. And it's, you know, regardless, I mean, I don't know how much you're in politics or not, but, you know, we have, we've definitely done a lot of politics throughout our career. And the interesting thing right now is, beyond COVID because I think COVID was the first great awakening like the first in like the last 15 years. I think that was massive. I think everyone, uh, mostly agreed. It was almost like 9-11. You remember after 9-11 where everybody felt united. And it was like, hey, we're united as

Americans because of what happened to us Americans based on what the government told us about what happened when 9-11. And then you had COVID, which everybody united against the government. So it was not very good for them, although, you know, I think it was a test phase. But now you have, you know, like even the Thomas Massey race in Kentucky right now. It's, it's the wildest thing I've ever seen where Republicans, their influencers, everybody's going against Thomas Massey. You have all the Israel money coming into Ed Gowlerin, which is the opponent, and you have Trump and the administration, although most people that voted for Trump want Massey, but yet the, like what media wants to tell you is, Massey's horrible. They're trying to.

trying to control narrative even in congressional races to the point where they're spending $25 million in a place like Kentucky because Thomas Masty, regards to whether people think he has voted for down, kind of down the center line of libertarian type stuff and not necessarily maggot. He doesn't just support Maggot. He doesn't support Democrats. He just supports, it seems like Americans, but. Independence.

But my point is, is that, you know, they're going to control narratives in any way, shape, or form. And even with the alien thing, everybody's like, well, it's a distraction. I don't necessarily think it's it. I think all of the things that they're probably going to reveal are going to exist to a degree to we're going to have proof of it, but they're going to control how you think about them and feel about these. And it's not necessarily that they don't exist and aliens don't exist and interdimensional. I don't want people to think like this is just the government telling you a bunch of bullshit, whatever. But they are going to try to control the narrative, I guess, is the bigger point with that.

But Allison, let me, let me, I want to address what you just talked about is, so I've been to a lot, I've studied out a lot of mystery schools. And one of the things about the mystery schools is that they say to be in this world, but not of this world. And I feel like that's where politics comes in and they tell, told us in the mystery schools like, you know, don't get involved in all that because it's a distraction from the higher levels of consciousness because it's about the hermetics. and all of like that the all the consciousness and in rising consciousness that distracts us from like our beingness. And as long as you're distracted, wherever you put your focus attention is where your power is. So as long as your attention is, oh, look over here, look over here, then you're distracted on, you know, raising in consciousness.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, the only thing like I said, and what I will say for my Christian listeners, out there. The only thing, it's so funny because, like, you're not necessarily a Christian, I guess, right? Or any of that stuff. You're, you're, I think you've kind of explained kind of how you feel about spirituality. I feel I'm connected with spirituality. Yeah.

But I, but the interesting thing about it is, is as a Christian, as someone that believes in Jesus based on just, and by the way, I'm, I've over nine years, I have basically not believed in anything. Like, I, I, I've almost quit believing in it and damn near everything. If someone says something that you're supposed to believe. I don't believe. I don't believe it. I believe the opposite.

Yeah. I mean, that's literally the world we live in. And the only thing that's brought me back to the Bible and Jesus and all that stuff is just the historical, foundational evidence and all that stuff. But either way, it's interesting how you explain things, though, how you feel about the world, good versus evil. All the things you talk about are extremely similar to the Bible, what God and Jesus and kind of the prophets and all of those people have said thousands of years ago.

And obviously, the earth wasn't created too. 2,500 years ago. It didn't start when Jesus was around. It didn't start, you know, we know there are ancient civilizations likely for, I mean, potentially 50,000 years ago, I think there's the oldest that we know of, human skeletal bones and all this stuff. But either way, there's always been very similar stories at the very least about consciousness, about things they see in the skies, about how they connect.

And I honestly think most of our civilization previous to us. we're more connected in almost every way with this spiritual awakening, this realm than we can possibly be now. I think everybody in the past was far more enlightened than we are now. Oh, I agree. And it's just the, it's just a certain people now that are somehow able to break through. And, and it's like, that's a sin because if you do that, they call you crazy. They call you, they call you psycho.

But back then, that was like, you were, you would, you would be propped. up as the leaders of these communities. Yeah. And most of these people were. And I want to, I would address that thing with, you know, Christianity or Catholic or whatever. Like, I'm not against anything like what somebody practices or whatever. Like, my thing is, is the light. Like, whatever bleat somebody to the light.

And when you're disconnected from the light, whatever you want to call it, you have lost your purpose and you're disconnected and you're most likely going on a path that's going to to lead you to darkness. Right. And so it's about feeling that connection and feeling that sense of faith. And whatever you need to believe to believe that is, is completely up to you. And there's no judgment. There shouldn't be any judgment about what somebody believes.

I got you. Yeah. Well, it's kind of like, you know, you had brought up addiction earlier. And I think a lot of times that brings people into darkness. But when people do reach out for help and go to AA, for example, you know, they, they preach about, you know, not God, but the, what do they call it? The higher, higher. A is this own religion.

Well, their higher spirit. I think they call it a higher spirit. No, but they find God. Yeah, but they find God whatever your God is and whatever, you know, is coming to you, that is your God, period. And I think that's kind of what it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Allison, I wait, I wanted to ask her one quick, well, I wanted to switch topics.

for just a second. Well, I was about to switch topics too, real quick, because I know we don't have a ton of time, but what I wanted to ask you, number one, was you do readings and stuff. Like,

would you, can you do that stuff over the internet? I mean, do you think that you can potentially do that? Okay. That's all I do is over there. Because I think that you maybe need to try us, because I would like to,

I would like to, I would like to experience that before we go. Well, I don't want to go first. First, I wanted to kind of dive into MK Ultra and remote viewing and what she believes about that. Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah. Go ahead with MK Ultra remote view and they're similar but different. Yeah. With the MK Ultra, I believe that we have all the, all the people, the Hollywood stars, those, they're under MK Ultra. And they have clones that they just switch out and they're all under, you know, under MK Ultra. You know, and like, okay, you know, they're on a talk show. they're realign them one word, you know, and they got handlers.

And they're just, they're under control. Because anybody that gets to the top 1% that's out there and you see them, they are under MK. And the sign of MK.K. Ultra is the butterflies. Those, those butterflies and the one eye and all that's the MK.K. And you see all them, like, all them showing that because they have to show like what they worship, you know, which is all part of the God of the satanic God, because they're mouthpieces for the elite. So they will never get to the top 1%

and those people that are out there, they all are part of the club. So they're all programmed. Yeah, for sure. But let me just say, we're programmed too. Yeah. You know, some of us have better programs, right? And we have to rewrite the program.

Yeah. And with remote viewing, by the way, you know, that's a very well recorded program in United States government history where the government would come in, bring in certain people they thought was more, I guess, inept to be able to remote view places or things or environments in other places. And they said it has nothing to do with being a medium or a psychic. They could teach. They can teach you how to do this.

Yeah. The government could, like, instruct these people how to do it. And these people eventually would be able to do it. but there are obviously other people that were better at it, you know, just like, just like some people are better at math or whatever. And one of the things they always said was don't try to imagine like what you're trying to think about.

They always said like just what's coming to your mind, whether it's a material, whatever it is, start writing all these things out and then you'll eventually get to a story, right? So do you think that's connected obviously also to this kind of other realm to where it puts puzzles pieces together? 1,000% we are, remember, we are so connected into the universe.

Like we're one with the universe, right? So at any time I could go into my mind and remote view a location. And again, with training, we can get better and get more of the target. But, but, you know, going in and going into the imagination, that's why they want to kill the imagination is because the imagination is where like time travel is, remote viewing, all that. but you can like literally train yourself to like go in, you know, get a GPS point and then learn to go to that location. And you could go with chat chibati.

You could do it if you're and do it by yourself. Go on to chat chb-t like, okay, give me a remote location coordinate. And then play around with that and see how good you can get at doing it. But this is the thing is that's the consciousness, that's the higher consciousness that, you know, you're supposedly not. supposed to be able to access. Yeah, that is interesting. That is a good. Well,

and just when she said that, I just had a number start popping in my head. I was like, I got to write that down. Okay, well, let's see if she can get those numbers. I'm just kidding.

Hopefully those are lottery numbers. Well, so yeah, so if you want to, if you want to try to read, I don't know how you do this, but if you want to do, do readings,

I've never had this done. I've never had anybody do this. Okay, let me, I'm going to connect in with you and see. So should it be me or Share you first. No, go for a chat. Okay. Okay. We got the skeptics. So we'll do you for it. Um, so I said connected, I feel like for you, life is an adventure and like wanting to know more information, explore and expand. And it's through information to explore and expand to the other world.

And you're a connector from the other worlds and bringing it into this world. And so that's kind of why I feel like this, what you're doing is, you know, you have been successful at it because that's really what people are connecting with when they're connecting with your podcasts. They're connecting to other worlds that they don't have access to. Interesting. I agree. I do feel like I'm going to put another girl world. I do agree because I think chat has some kind of, some kind of ability.

What do you feel about my temperament, soul personality? any of those things. I don't know if that's the thing you do. I'm just curious. Yeah. So if I look at your essence, it's like, it's like you're someone that has a lot of peace.

It's like a lot of inner peace. And through that, it's like this creativity. You expand your creativity. It's like these and your creativity comes through your imagination. And you bring through ideas through your, your imagination. And that's your specialty is like to imagine these ideas and bring them to luck.

Oh my gosh. She hit hit that one. I mean, that's true. Because Chad has had every crazy idea in the world to do something. Yeah. We have failed so many times because of his crazy ideas. But, you know, I kept believing in him. And now here we are.

Well, actually, you know what? The funny thing was I told I told my best friend the other day because he just lost his sister to suicide and then he lost his wife last year and it's been like a hell of a two years for him and and i you know one of the things i told him was like you know people that commit suicide or whatever i was like you know i think the one thing that's always kept me going as far as like because i've had bad childhood stuff but you know is optimism and the imagination and just trying to that's just one of those things i think that has to you have to be optimistic to keep going i guess is the is the thing so yeah that's and i live in other worlds you're

you live in other worlds within your imagination. Yeah, for sure. That's like, that's you. Like, I'm not just saying that. Like, I look at somebody's essence and I see where are they at?

Yeah. And that's kind of like, that's your optimism and like bringing information from other worlds. That's how you come up with your ideas. Yeah. Well, and I think, and I think too,

going back to like the summons and not summons in, but the, what is it called when you put it out there in a world and you and by the way, I put a lot of stuff out there in the world. this never come back. Like attraction. Yeah, the law of attraction. There's a lot of things I put out there that didn't come back and probably I wasn't as

passionate about those things. But because of what we have been able to accomplish, it's only because I have imagined those things and believed in those things enough to where I also think it takes a lot of failure until you have success. And sometimes there's a reason for those failures. There's a reason for you to experience the darkness before you see the light. and you know, it's just taking with it. Yeah.

Yeah. And also that is also energetic alignment too because this is like this like you kind of connecting with other people, connecting other people to these other worlds is energetic aligned. Yeah. And that's why it's like we can be we can be doing careers and stuff. But is it energetically aligned? And that's kind of what when somebody comes to me and they're like, well, should I be doing this or doing that? like we look at the energetics of something because the reality is when you're not energetically aligned with something there's more effort in it yeah no and that's why i felt a lot of stuff

because i didn't want the effort because i'm not energetic enough about it right exactly and it's not that we're not going to do we're not going to work hard right that we're going to work hard but is it energetically aligned and then that becomes more effortless and more about play and flow when it is. Yeah, for sure. I agree. All right, Sherry, now it's your turn. I think I've already told her everything about myself.

No, not really. Well, somewhat, but. Okay, let's see. Well, Sherry, as I connect it with you, you're someone that goes up and down, up and down. It kind of like goes on these roller coasters of, like, you're having a high cycle and then a low cycle and a high cycle. And I feel like with these cycles, it's like, what's happening? And a lot of people don't understand when they have these high and low cycles.

Like you, it's like you go to this low cycle. It's like it was really low place. But what's happening is you're downloading, you're integrating and you're integrating new information. And then you go back into the high cycle. And that's how like you kind of your world works. It's like you'll go so down, so low. And it's like, how can I be so low?

Yeah. But doing some integration, integration into the darkness and all this and all these, all this like shadow stuff and then come back up. That is true, by the way. Yeah, you are. You just hit it. And I just saw an orb. I just had an orb fly across her screen.

I'm not kidding. I know. I know. Did you see it? Yes. Okay. I think what you're describing for Sherry is called bipolar. Yeah, that's what I was going to say to you.

I'm just kidding. But you know what? That could come off as looking like bipolar. Yeah. But that's what the diagnosis of like of what society wants people to think. It is, but it's actually like a genius. It's a creative genius going into the cocoon, like gathering all the information, like, getting rid of the shadow and then coming back into the light and reemerging. So it's like got death and rebirth down and rebut.

I constantly go through that cycle. You're so right. You hit it. And don't you think some of the some of the smartest and most in tune people are also sometimes the craziest as far as like. now Chad's telling me I'm crazy. No, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. I am a little crazy. No, because I'm the same way.

But what I'm saying is like, I think that sometimes you can't get genius without a somewhat of crazy because like I think that crazy that you or your mind is always battling itself. And for me, my mind's always battling myself, my ideas, my emotions, my feelings. And I feel like that sometimes I can come off bad. But like, I think that's sometimes how you fight through things to get to something, right? Well, I think that. See, this is just labels, right? It's like, oh, ADHD or this and that.

But that's actually the creative genius that's sparking. It's like a spark of the creative genius, but we have to suppress it with drugs just to make sure that the person never awakens. It's like all those like the people that you see that are like, you know, seeing the other, seeing seeing other people or seeing things. And then they drug them. that's actually them seeing the spirit world. You're seeing stuff.

It's not here. Like I can literally see stuff in a, in a space that happened before. It's not there anymore. Yeah. Like I can literally see that. Oh, I feel that way sometimes. Yeah. Yeah.

Chad does too a lot. 1800s. Like a deja vu. No, I always always have 1800s. Like I'll be riding down roads. And for some reason, I'll have like a deja vu. You know, you've, you know, you've had deja vu where you feel like you're here but instead of it you feeling like

you're in that exact moment you have a deja vu where you feel like is is horse and buggy and you see this place like it was in 1800s i feel like i used to be a freaking cowboy at least hopefully but i don't know i i feel that a lot is is because it's all happening all at once it's not in the past it's it's a parallel timeline yeah and you're seeing that it's it's what existed because it's before. So, yes, it's linear, not, it's linear timeline, right? Instead of, yeah. Right.

Exactly. And also there's thought forms. So what I mean by that is like, if I moved this chair and had been here 10 years, it's like, I'll walk around that, that chair as if it was there because thought forms get stuck in spaces. So it's like what you're seeing is what was in the space before. Yeah, that's so interesting. It's so weird because most people think this is, is this all woo-woo and crazy. But it's not.

But the reality is it's not. And I think there's so many people that are not tapped into it. And I see this all the time too. And back to your medicine thing. I do have to mention this because I think this is important to mention on this episode before we go. But, you know, like I said, my friends and my best friend's sister killed herself not long ago. And, you know, she was on all these medicines, right? She was on medicines because she was depressed.

And so that's what they put her on. They prescribed her, the SSRIs and whatever. And the funny thing was, by the way, and I'll say this because no one knows who I'm talking about. But in the toxicology report after, you know, she had killed herself, there was trace amounts of her medication. So, and then when you start looking at like the medication that she was on, I think the trace amounts we were figuring the other night we were talking was like she was probably off of them for about a week, I think is what we narrowed down to what her medicine was. So what it basically did in my mind, and by the way, she also... Yeah, you can't just stop taking SSRs or whatever they're called. What are they're called?

You can't just stop taking them. That don't make you go cuckoo. And I remember my friend said, well, she also had an alcohol bottle next to kind of near where she did it. And so he thought that, like, she got drunk and did this. Well, come to find out, she had no alcohol in her system whatsoever. But what I, what we kind of determined was or felt like was like because of that complete, it's like a whiplash of coming off of that medicine and your brain. goes the 100% opposite direction.

And it's because you were getting chemicals in your brain from doctors or pharmaceuticals. Yeah, just shut off that melatonin or whatever it is. And it took her over the edge. It took her over the edge. And that's the dangers that I think people don't realize about stuff like that. The two thing is look at if you go and look at the studies of all the people that like went and shot up all the schools and shot up all the people there on all those. Yes.

You know. Yeah. this is a thing is that all of that stuff alters your brain, your chemistry and your brain. And I think what we're treating people for is actually creative genius. But we're making it look like, oh, you can't sit in your chair for eight hours. Like, you know, you can't sit at your desk at school or like at your office for eight hours. You have a problem.

Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, Alison, look, I... Well, chat. I mean, I'm dyslexic, ADHD, bipolar, I guess. But I am on medicine. But Chad said that he would not build a live with me if I was not taking some type of medicine. It depends. It depends.

Because I am like, you know, like you were saying. Her medicine has helped her for sure, like level out that. But, you know, and so I'm not, so I'm not always saying like it's a bad thing necessarily. But I don't know. But I also know the dangers of all of it as well. And it's not for everybody. Like, I'm not saying that some people can't be on it and be okay. But there's also others that can be on certain medications.

I remember when I was 17, that was many years ago now. And when I was 17, that was when Zolov came around. And I don't know if you remember when Zolov started. It was like all these teenagers were killing themselves, like across the nation. And everybody's like, why is that? And they really never changed the formula of Zolov. They just made it to where Zilov can't, they don't like to prescribe it until you're like 20 or 21. But it's just, you know what?

Let me, I want to put a disclaimer in there is this is the reality is that medication is used for a pharmaceutical pharmacists have said that medication was designed for people to get on it and then get off of it. So it's like if someone needs to be on medication or whatever, for whatever reason, they're going through their crisis. they had trauma, whatever, it's to go to counseling or do the work, the energy work or whatever they need to do to kind of get off the drug. This is never designed for somebody to live on. So it's like if, you know, Sherry's going through all these episodes and going through this stuff, like that medicine has helped her to even out of what she's experiencing. And it would be ideal if, you know, she could go to therapy and start to work through some

of this shadow stuff start to work through some of the trauma so that and and more get more balance within herself so that she doesn't have to take medication but in any need we do need to take the medication if we're we if we are feeling like if we have chemical imbalance yeah it's funny because I think sometimes medications like guardrails you know and and and and even though like what maybe that person could achieve without medication would be extraordinary but also at the same time, those same extremes with how much they could do on the good side could also be the opposite of the bad side. I'm not saying you share. I'm saying people in general. It's a very, I think a lot of people are like, the answer with that, I feel like is a lot of people like,

okay, well, you know, I wish they would just get off the pot. They would get off the get off that. But the reality is what if the pot or the drugs is helping them from not committing suicide or not shooting out the people or whatever. So what, so the thing is, is that thing that they're taking or using is beneficial for them at that time at the level of consciousness that they're at. And that's where I feel like it is. It's like, okay, well, then the person needs that right now, you know, until they decide that they don't need that anymore, they need it.

Yeah, absolutely. No, I 100% agree. Well, Alison, look, before we go, I want to make sure that everybody knows where to follow you and find all of your content because I want to make sure everybody knows that. And we connected on Instagram, but where can everybody follow you? What is your handles? So my Instagram is just my name.

It's Allison Carmony. And that's Instagram. And I post all my content on there. But also my website, soulful evolution.com. And I do book one-on-one readings. and we also go live and do group readings where it's just free and we just have fun connecting with community. And I just recently have last two years developed an astrology app and it's free. And it's people that can download and get information on themselves all about themselves.

And also they can do their relationship. You guys can do your relationship. You get a number. Okay. And then it can give you like ways to improve your relationship, date nights. You know, ways that you guys are connected, ways that you guys need to improve your connection. And that's something. And we're doing one.

We're building one out right now for parents and kids. One for like, could be partners, which would be business partners and that. And you kind of get a number and then get like more information. Oh, now I know why this person is. Yeah, absolutely. And I was going to ask her about that and I forgot to about the astrology and going from the age of Pisces. We'll have to bring her back on.

But there's so much to talk about it. Yeah, we'll have to bring you back on for sure. Yeah, and that website is astroreport.a.i. And these are free, like free reports that we just been building out the system and we're like so excited about it. But it is a whole other subject because there's something we discovered in building out. It was not our intention, but we discovered that they've been hiding astrology by changing the time zone.

And so then it was, it's not that like we went to NASA satellites now. Now we're getting the exact time zones, but we didn't know this when we are filling it out, like the daylight time zones changes astrology. That's why nobody in the United States believes in it. But if you go to India, they don't change daylight time zones. And people believe in it. They will not even get married or even talk to somebody without consulting their astrology. Wow.

That's interesting. That's interesting. Alison, I'm going to give you a reading. I do think you're a genuine person. I feel good about your soul for sure. I think you're genuine. and I think you get a good heart. And I'm always one of those people.

If there's one thing I know typically about people, I read, I know people very fast. Like I can meet someone very quickly. I'm like, nope, don't like them. And there's a reason. And I'm like,

Chad, don't do that. Usually, usually down the road, I get proven right about like whoever that person is. It's always something that comes up. And I'm like, see,

I told you. I mean, it's been every time. But, but I think you're a good person. I think you're a good heart and good intentions. And people should go and follow you, check you out. I hope that you'll come back on our show for sure. It was awesome.

There's so much more to talk about guys, but we could be here for four hours talking to you. But maybe we'll come back on. And if you start your own podcast, we'll come on your your podcast. Yes. That would be amazing. No, absolutely. Well, Alison, thank you so much for coming on. Allison, if you want to hang out just for a minute, we'll talk to you on the back end of this song, which we're about to play out right now. What is the name of this song is dancing? with the sin. Oh, God, Zora. Okay, here you go.

And again, if you guys want to reach out, her name is Allison Carmelony. Carmeny, yes, C-A-R-M-A-N-Y, right? Yes, Carmen. There you go. Two L's. All right, two else. There you go.

All right, guys. Until next time, we love you. Peace out.