Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcast | Customs & Border Patrol Videos with Special Guest

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

In this episode, we delve into the most current developments regarding the NASA UFO UAP hearing, the compelling new evidence related to alien bodies allegedly connected to the Mexican government, the recently disclosed UAP videos by the US Customs and Border Patrol, and engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Sean from The Big Grimmbowski Podcast about the ongoing mystery surrounding the missing F35. Are there deliberate efforts by the government aimed at sowing discord within the UFO community to undermine the drive for full disclosure?The Big Grimmbowski Podcast Spotify The Big Grimmbowski Podcast Linktree

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That's what we're doing in 2023, guys. It is September 25th, 2020. And we have a special guest on this podcast tonight. Sean from the Big Grimbowski podcast. Sean, how are you doing? Thank you for joining us. What's going on with you, man? Not much, dude.

Typical Indiana evening. I had a little subway before I came on. So I'm doing great right now. Yeah, it was absolutely delicious, by the way. What did you get from Subway? Rotissory chicken with pepper jack cheese. Got to get that toasted, of course. And then a little bit of lettuce, some jalapinos.

Chippole sauce and boom, there you go. So you had 50% chicken and then a 50% alien whatever meat, right? Because you know, you know what I'm saying on some way. But listen, it's better than, you know, 90% we don't know what the hell it is. Yeah, like McDonald's. Or McDonald's, yeah. Who knows? But anyways, guys, welcome to the show.

This is Investigator's podcast. And we're going to be talking about the UFO, UAP, a whole topic, man. There's so much going on with all of this. Now, listen, obviously we have so much to talk about coming up. There's so many things going on right now. We actually posted on our Facebook page, I believe it was last night or the night before. And we said there's literally so many things going on right now in this world. It is so tough to figure out how to categorize it in its importance.

But obviously, the UFO thing, you guys, so many of you love it and for good reason, by the way. I think this is one of the greatest mysteries of our time. I think we are very, very fortunate and lucky to be alive in the time that we are right now. And, you know, yes, now listen, there's been UFO sightings and encounters we believe since the beginning of time, right? And so there's kind of been this narrative shift, right? Lately, I have seen. You know, you had David Grush and you had Ryan Graves and Commander Fravor coming in front of the House committee, they say. set up specifically for UFO and UAPs.

And you had these guys as whistleblowers, in particular David Grush, that come forward and said all these things like there were crashed retrieval programs. And we had alien or non-human biologics. You had all these things that were groundbreaking. They were, it was it was the closest we've ever been, in my opinion, to disclosure from anyone in a history of the UFO phenomenon. And then as that thing started to progress, after that particular hearing, you know, there was a lot of things that David Grush said, hey, you know, we're going to have to talk about that in a skiff, which is basically a meeting, a closed door behind a door meeting that they don't talk about in public, but they bring people behind the closed doors that has the security clearances to do so. and he, you know, he would basically say,

here's the companies we know that are working on the reverse engineering. Here are the people that have to do with this. Here's how this works. Here's who knows about the non-human biologics. All of these things. And so we had this massive push going forward. What I'm starting to see now on social media is this push back from, it's almost like a part of the UFO community.

Right. From the experts. Yeah. Well, yeah. Some experts, some just randomness. But there's a big pushback right now that are saying, oh, well, we think that this is the government's secret technology. And they're trying to basically bolster and say, oh, this could be UFOs because they're trying to hide their supposed very advanced technology that they have that appears like UFOs and UAPs. Well, regardless, it's got to be.

It's reversed engineered. That's the only way we could figure out stuff like that. Yeah, and I don't think we're there yet. Sean, let me ask you, what do you think about, well, I guess let me just ask you this. What did you think about the hearings, the UFO hearings with David Grush and Ryan Graves and Commander Fravor? Do you think their stories are credible? Do you think that what actually was said? I mean, do you think it's some type of sci-off or do you think it's actually real?

I mean, I think that, you know, what the people are. seeing the pilots in the sky and, you know, all them, all the military personnel they were having these first-hand accounts and seeing things. And then, you know, they're immediately being told, you know, well, we don't know what it is. It's not ours. It's not ours. But, you know, it very well could be ours. But I mean, yeah, at this point in time, it's just kind of like, you know, they're not really giving us all the answers of what's, you know, behind the curtains, so to speak, you know. And, and that's, and that's, you know, that sucks because again, we just want that transparency. We just want to see it. And I mean, just like you said, I feel like a lot of people are just kind of divided right now. Either, you know, you're believing it or you're just like, okay, this is a false flag. This is a big sci-op. You know, they are just doing this for whatever reason, saying all these things, you know, because we already have this technology. Like, you know, are, do we have scientists who are that smart and are that capable of, you know, doing, you know,

these things and creating stuff that we thought was, you know, not possible. I mean, it could be. I wouldn't say that it's not fathomble, but I mean, who knows? And to Sean's point, we got to remember that this hearing was not officially from the government. These were people speaking at a committee that are not government personnel anymore. Yeah, pretty much. So you have to keep that in mind that these are people that are whistleblowers. They're not NASA.

They're not, you know, Pentagon. They're not anything. Yeah, people no longer in official positions. And listen, you know, after this committee hearing, there has been Congress people that have come out that obviously some of these Congress people, Jeremy Corbell kind of led in his, I guess, a latest weaponized podcast to where there were Congress people that came out and was basically saying, oh, you have these guys that said they heard from someone that they had crash retrieval programs and there were alien bodies discovered or non-human biologics. And this is just crazy. This is absolutely nuts.

And by the way, this congressperson that said this, you know who his biggest funders to his campaigns are? It's Raytheon. It's these companies that are literally being accused of reverse engineering alien technology. And yet this guy is leading the push against the narrative, against the sensationalism, as the NASA administrator says, which we're going to get to the NASA thing in just a little bit. But, Sean, let's just be honest. though. If we had alien technology, if we had UFO craft, if we had figured out how to reverse engineer the craft that in some instances, from what we know, based on whistleblowers, people that were in the Pentagon, people that were in the defense department, traveling at plus

100,000 miles per hour, but in some cases, literally just completely disappearing off the face of the earth, especially you talk about David Fravers account, where this craft came down to the ocean. It then was basically circulating them and kind of looking at them as they were as they were kind of orbiting down towards this craft. And then this craft went from there to like 700 miles away in about one second. Do you really think that if we had technology like that to where we could literally almost teleport from this location to this location in about two seconds that we that as as as as corrupt as our politicians and government is that we would not i mean think about this we're sending billions of money to ukraine now that could be a whole other thing as

far as money laundering goes but do you not think that we would take over the world if we had technology like this i mean taking over the world is a big step i mean if you truly think about it and i mean you can even take that to any movie any tv show whatever you know anytime any type of forces trying to take over the world there's always going to be some sort of greater force it's going to come in and stop the whole thing from happening it's just like it's it's too big of a feat and there's too much land area for you know to for us say like you know the united states to just like govern every single you know country that there is it just it would be too much but who's not to say that they this is our technology though because like again we don't we don't know for sure

And maybe all these accounts are the fact that we've just been testing and we've been going through and doing all these things. And who's not to say that we already haven't figured out how to travel, you know, to other places, you know, amongst the, you know, the universe, you know, light years away. And, you know, maybe we just haven't quite perfected it yet to where we can come out and be like, okay, yes, we have a Stargate, you know, kind of system that we're able to jump from over here to this other type of, you know, Earth-style, you know, planet that could sustain life. And then, you know, you have to think of how big of a feat that's going to be then to try to move, you know, mass of populations to another planet and then try to colonize that planet.

I mean, it just, it's huge. So it's like even if we did have that possibility and have that capability, I don't think that we would one have the resources or the manpower to truly create that. I mean, you look at all these different movies, Pandorum, that was a sci-fi horror film, the same kind of deal, you know, mass exodus from the earth, and they were supposed to go to another planet that was going to be inhabitable just like this. And they took all of the different plants and animals and different things to be able to terraform that next planet. But then it turns out, You know, spoiler alert for anyone who doesn't see it because it's been out forever.

You know, they were on the planet the whole entire time. They thought that they were stuck in space, but they were actually in an ocean basically just kind of sitting there chilling, you know. Well, the one thing I took from what you said here is I think you're giving our government and our officials too much credit. And it's like hiding stuff. No, no, no, no. No, I think, you know, the big feat it would be to bring the amount of people some to another location. Number one, that would be in the event that they actually gave a shit about anybody on this planet besides themselves. Because in my opinion, if you have technology to fast travel with technology like if these craft are theirs, right?

Or this is reverse engineered technology. Number one, I think the very number one thing they would do is weaponize it. And I think they would use it to destroy adversaries. but look how much money we're sending to Ukraine, billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars to fight Russia through Ukraine in a proxy war. Although, if we had this advanced alien technology to where we have craft that can move 700 miles in one second,

think about the devastation that if you put a nuclear warhead on those craft, they would be done instantly, and then you would just have to wait so long to until they were done and then you literally rule the world and then number two is like okay if we had craft and we had that technology i just don't see our government or officials are pretty much really most governments around the world given a damn enough about the people to ever want to sustain civilization further than than their little circle now they could they could

sustain civilization that they may take a thousand people here a thousand people there and that's it i just think that i get your point 100%. I'm just saying I think that you might be given our officials a little too much credit for caring. But if I'm going to be the middleman, I have to put this in place. What we see with our fighter jets is stealth capabilities. It's, you know, being unknown and doing things that we normally could not do on earth without some kind of help, I think. So I think whatever we're using for reverse engineering, we're using it. And we're seeing that in our fighter jets, in our planes.

They're getting faster. They're getting better. They're getting able to not be known in the air above, you know, other people. Well, you know, and I think that that comes from whatever we have in our position. Oh, absolutely. No, 100% agree. I do think some of our stealth technology has come from potential reverse engineering on composites or craft or whatever. But you got to remember, we did just lose.

than the F-35 like a week ago. It's like a Tesla going off the road on the zone. Yeah, and then you don't find it for like a few days. And it's like, oh, wait, shit. Then you have this guy in a cowboy hat out in the middle of South Carolina that says hey, this is what I heard. This is what happened. You have some dude calling 911, which, by the way, we're going to touch base on the F-35 thing here in a little bit. We're also going to touch base on the alien

Mexico government bodies thing. We're going to talk a little bit more about that because we posted a TikTok video about two weeks ago. It's 200,000 views right now on TikTok. And I've just kind of watched through TikTok and all the comments. I just scroll them occasionally. I'll just see the top comments. And obviously, it's not you guys. The guys and girls that are listening this episode, you guys are awake. You guys have a lot more brain capacity than a lot of people on TikTok. I can promise you that. But some of the stuff I see on TikTok is just absurd and asinine of how these people think that these bodies came about.

People said that these Mexico alien bodies were reconstructed using various parts of animals and all this stuff. I've heard that too. And we have the answer to that tonight on this episode as well. Because I have to say, there is also people that are taking it way far and putting like Joe Biden's head on top of the aliens or making like cakes out of them. and they look really real and then, you know, it's all a joke, but it's so funny. It is.

Sean, let me ask you, what is your like politics situation? Okay, and by the way, I want to mention again, you have the Bing Grimbowski podcast on Spotify. I guess they can find you pretty much anywhere, right? What is your politics situation?

I'm through Spreaker, so pretty much anywhere that Spreaker has older stuff. So I-Heart Radio, Spotify, Cast Box, Deaser. Yeah, it's quite a bit of them. Apple, but for some reason, Apple likes to be a little weird and doesn't really let me post anything. So I figured that one out.

So sorry for everybody listening on Apple. You should switch over to Spotify, that one. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. What if you guys forget? I always call them the Grim Reaper. That's how I remember. But what is your politics situation?

Exactly. Like, how do you handle politics on your politics? And do you ever talk about politics on the Big Grombowski podcast? I mean, I'm always open to it. So, you know, the basis to the show is that, you know, I call it a subnormal podcast. So like, you know, all the topics are not going to be the normal topics that you're going to hear, you know, on your, your radio or, you know, on the TV or whatever, you know. So, like, it can be, you know, anywhere from talking like, you know, UFOs and, you know, all this stuff to, you know, you know, Bigfoot, the paranormal, to various conspiracies.

Here Thursday, I've got a lady coming on who was born and raised in the Mormon Church. Okay. And she escaped from it. And she now goes and tells everybody about the things that she knows. And I mean, legit, she, you know, has been threatened by the church for suing her. And stuff like that because, yeah, essentially because, you know, there's a lot of things, you know, just about that in general that they don't want people to know about very crazy ritualistic stuff very similar to the Freemasons. I mean, they have a lot of stuff that, I mean, it's exactly to a T, the same kinds of rituals that the Freemasons use. And, I mean, it's wild.

So, like, I look forward to, you know, having her on, her name's Heidi Love. from Unfiltered Rise podcast. If anyone, you know, is on Spotify and wants to check that out beforehand. She's got some episodes on there that are really, really good ones. I suggest people go and check that one out. But again, politics, like, you know, I'm down for anything. You know, I remember when, you know, Trump came in and everybody was so worked up and so pissed off because of, like, you know, the comments and things that he was saying. Like, okay, I get it. You know, the dude probably. probably shouldn't, you know, just be able to just run his mouth whenever he wants to. Like, he's clearly, you know, a dumbass a lot of times when it comes to that. But at the same time, you can't sit there and hate the man.

Right. When he's actually doing good things. And it's like, you know, it's so many people that are just like, oh, you're a Trump supporter. And then it's just like, I'm, you know, this stereotypical, well, you're clearly, you know, a white supremacist and this and that. like it's it's not ever been like that it's like you know that's stuff that's been pushed by the social media you know by the the news stations and all this other stuff and you know the people of the opposite political parties i mean and that's always how it's been it's always two parties against each other it's yeah it's like it's never about you know our benefit our good what's going to be

you know great for us what's going to work for us what's going to help us what's going to get you know all these homeless people off the streets, you know, and there's so many different, there's so many different things. And like, I try to stay away from as much as possible because like the more I think about it, it's like, oh, I just start getting pissed. Yeah. And by the way, it's really hard to. And listen, I get your, I get your point for sure. Number one, on the Mormon thing, we definitely have some listeners that are going to love to, uh, to hear that in particular, There are a few close friends of ours, which I, you know, I don't know, we actually have a Mormon coming on very soon to talk about some of the religious slash UFO concept as well. But I agree, like, politics are tough.

But the reason I ask you that question is because I feel like this is what is happening right now with the UFO community. I feel like the government is doing the exact same things that they do with politics in general, right? fighting people. That's the only way one party or the other can succeed. You have to divide to conquer. I mean, that's always been the old age line. You've got to divide to conquer. And that's literally a line that is no more important now than it ever has been. Oh, and because everyone agrees on the UFO topic. Everyone wants to know the truth. They did. Or they did want to know. Yeah. Yes, but that's what I'm saying. And this is my, this is my big point here. As things, have started to progress and you have whistleblowers, you have these people starting to come out and actually give what I believe to be real facts. I believe David Grush is credible.

I believe he is legit. I believe what he is saying is true. And we're going to talk about that in just a little bit why I can almost guarantee you that what he's saying is true. This is going to be about the middle of the podcast, but we got a touch on this. But what I'm saying is as soon as David Grush came out, They started talking about how he had PTSD, which is obviously pretty normal for people.

He was in Afghanistan, I believe it, one time. This guy is making very credible claims, especially accusing the military industrial complex for reverse engineering, having these secretive programs where they're using money in our budget and our tax dollars to reverse engineer stuff, but also keep it secret from the public. These are things that are happening. And so when the government, the deep state, started to figure this out and started to say, holy shit, we have a problem. So what do we need to do? Well, we have to somehow divide, right?

This is what we do in politics. This is what we do in everything. If we want to win, we at least need to have half of that community on our side or half of the community on the side that helps us rather than hurts us. If you have one whole entire community that is all about disclosure and all about transparency, you're going to lose as a government, period. But also on this committee, Mr. Gray, I forgot his first name. No, Ryan Graves. Yeah, no, the other dude. He was a Democrat, the gay guy.

No, you're talking about the IRS thing, babe. Oh, shoot. Sorry. No, you're talking. That is not. Oh, that was IRS. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're talking about an IRS thing.

But yeah, but that happens to. And even if you're a Democrat or IRS or gay or whatever, where you would be the typical actual person that would be against certain things, they're going to call you a right. winger or if you like some of the things Trump did or said, they're going to call you a white supremacist or whatever the case is, although you may have been a Democrat your whole life. Anyways, I want to get into the first section of our story, and we have not touched on what the NASA hearing or I guess press conference was as far as what they said.

Now, UFO NASA, they had their NASA administrator come out and talk about what they said has been their findings. Now, they created this committee to where they had these people investigate UFO and UAP encounters. And so this press conference, which was aired on News Nation and multiple other news outlets, they had the administrator of NASA come on board. and into this press conference, and he gave his findings. Now, what the mainstream media led with was, I mean, I saw it on Fox News. I saw it on CNN. I saw it on all these things. It said, NASA says no aliens.

That has been the headline of all mainstream media based on what this little press conference was, where the NASA administrator came out. But there are very important things to take from this. Number one, and I'll tell you the biggest one, he said, although, yes, they are UAPs and UFOs. We don't know what they are. We can't prove their extraterrestrials, but we don't know what it is.

We have no idea. But I want to play you a little bit of this press conference. Let's listen to this. We're going to talk about it on the backside. Check it out. This is the NASA press conference on UFOs and UAPs. Questions. We will take questions both in the room and then from the phones.

And for now, I will hand it over to the administrator. Thanks so much, and thanks for coming today. NASA searches for the unknown in air and space. It's in our DNA. From digging on Mars with the Perseverance Rover in those little titanium tubes that we intend to go back and pick up, digging in a dry lake bed near the mouth of.

a river. Now we're going up to the top of the cliff where the scientists feel that there could be the best examples of if there were life there millions of years ago. Whether we're dealing with perseverance or the James Webb Space Telescope, which searches for exoplanets with signs of habitability, we are looking for signs of life, past and present. And it's in our DNA to explore and to ask why things are the way they are. In June of last year, NASA commissioned an independent study team

to examine unidentified anomalous phenomena. We did so with a few goals in mind. First, to examine how NASA can use our expertise and instruments to study UAP from a scientific perspective. Second, shift the conversation about UAP from sensationalism to science. And to make sure that whatever we will, find or whatever we recommend to make sure that information is shared transparently around the world. There's a global fascination with UAP.

On my travels, one of the first questions I often get is about these sightings. And much of that fascination is due to the unknown nature of it. Think about it. Most UAP sightings result in very limited data. That makes it even more difficult to draw scientific conclusions about the nature of UAP. And so this independent study team brought together some of the world's leading scientists, data, and artificial intelligence experts.

aerospace safety specialist, all with a specific charge from me, which is to tell how to apply the full focus of science and data to UAP. And this is the first time that NASA has taken concrete action to seriously look into UAP. and this independent study team was just that independent. Now, NASA has a statutory authority to look for life in the universe. And when you think of the universe and especially what we have learned from the James Webb Space Telescope, how vast that it is. We knew before, and it was a NASA scientist, Dr. John Mather, who got the Nobel that determined that the universe was 13.8 billion years old.

And over the years, particularly accelerated in the last century, we have an understanding that, of course, ours is not the only galaxy. And there are billions and billions of galaxies, and each of those galaxies, including our own, have billions and billions of stars. And with the James Webb looking at the exoplanets, we are now beginning to discover, and somewhere out there we will discover another medium-sized stony planet

around a medium-sized sun or star at just the right distance, not too far, not too close, with a tilt in its axis that rotates, that has carbon that will have a habitable atmosphere. If you ask me, Do I believe there's life in a universe that is so vast that it's hard for me to comprehend how big it is? My personal answer is yes.

But I ask some of our scientists, as a matter of fact, the Washington Post editorial board asked us to come down to the question. What is the mathematical probability that there is life? out there in the universe. And if you calculate in billions of stars, in billions of galaxies, that there's replicated what I just said, another stony planet, the answer was, what's the likelihood?

At least a trillion. That's from our scientists. So we start this without any preconceived notions, but understanding that we're in a world of discovery. And we have taken, we NASA, have taken for the first time concrete action to seriously look into UAP. And this independent study team is exactly that. It's independent. They work to develop recommendations about how NASA could better examine them from a scientific perspective. And the top takeaway from the study is that there is a lot more to learn.

The NASA independent study team did not find any evidence that UAP have an extraterrestrial origin. But we don't know what these UAP are. That's why I'm announcing that NASA has appointed a NASA director of UAP research. They are being tasked with developing and overseeing the implementation of NASA's vision for UAP research. We will use NASA's expertise to... All right, enough of that. The top takeaway from the top takeaway from... this is if you ever go to college and have a professor that talks like this, they're going to bore you to death.

Yeah, that's true. Sorry. I just have to put it out there. Oh, my God. Sorry. Sean, I just saw you unmute your mic, but it seems like I heard you during that once. That's why I muted you here. So you might want to make sure you actually didn't just mute your mic.

So, yeah, he, I think, Sean. Are you there, Sean? Yeah, he's here. Yeah, I'm here. Oh, well, that's weird. So maybe, maybe someone else coughed. Sean, takeaways. Like, just, just like your overall consensus of what you just heard.

I mean, obviously, the way he talks, I mean, heaven forbid, if that is actually how talks, I mean, I don't even, I'm not going to go there. But anyways, yeah. It's just ominous. and it's just like, you know, kind of almost like dramatized in a way too. So again, you know, if that's just how he talks, then that's just how he talks. But like when you listen to it, it just, it kind of sounds, you know, like it was kind of scripted in a way.

You know, and then just like the word usage, you know, and the things that he said, like the, you know, it's in our DNA to explore, you know, that was one of the things okay. So what makes you think that it's in our, DNA to explore just because we've explored the planet or are you saying because we've explored other things like what you know what exactly do you do you mean by that and then all of the other things was why we are the way we are and it's just like you know yeah is there is there something

else that they know about but they don't want to tell us just yet and they want to find some other kind of proof like, you know, hey, we actually did come from another planet, you know, before here. And, you know, this planet is over here. We can show you guys where it's at. And, you know, nobody lives there anymore, obviously, because, you know, I got destroyed, but here's the remains, you know, or whatever it may be. It's a very good point. I don't know. It's, it's strange to listen to for sure. Yeah. That totally reminds me of the Lorax, the book, the Lorax, if you guys ever read that, but it's a great story. where they just destroy their world and they have to go somewhere else basically.

But go ahead, Jeff. Yeah, and there's tons of documentaries and movies about that to where the world becomes uninhabitable and you go somewhere else. Look, here's the thing. What you just said, Sean, I literally just ask you, you know, off the face, like, what is your general consensus? I had wrote a note here that the fact that we are talking about this, it should worry us to some degree.

and unless the people out there are thinking that, you know, this is some big sciop. They're trying to divert attention from all the craziness. It's really going on in the world, which, by the way, guys, I'm going to tell you right now. I don't believe that. And I'll tell you why. I don't think the UFO thing is a phenomenon or is a sciop. I don't think it's a red flag. I don't think it's a false flag.

I don't think it's any of this. I do think that there are things. that happen in our society to where they can use things politically to further their political agenda. I mean, without getting too political, let's just go into a couple things. But number one, Black Lives Matter movement with police shootings and killings or whatever. Well, number one, we knew and always know that police shootings happen. We know that they do kill black people. And we also know that they've killed black people, innocent black people that have not had guns. but when it becomes time for election,

they want to use as much as that sensationalism of police killing unarmed black people as possible. They also want to use things that can divide to where they can conquer. They can get that base on their side and really push this narrative. But I don't think the UFO thing is the thing that you're going to sigh up a red flag.

Because with the way information is, today. You can have 29 different massive subject matter things going on at one time. And everyone is aware and understanding of all of those things at once.

So it's very hard to false flag things unless you get it on a huge narrative. And I don't see any way that they're going to use UFOs or UAPs for their political advantage. And the only reason in most cases that you want to false

flag or have a mass siop in any way, shape, or form, is you've either done something very bad against humanity or whatever that you want to create a narrative, or you want to use that siop or that false flag for your political advantage. And I don't see the UFO topic in any way, shape, or form being useful for either of those scenarios. Well, the problem is with NASA, they're not going to come out and say, yes, we have alien bodies. We have alien crashes, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But the problem with NASA in civilization around the world is we now have technology. We can film the same things that they can film. We can see the same things that they see in the sky. And it's numerous. Well, kind of, yeah. Well, I'm saying that most people can see all the stuff they can see, not like the flare cameras and all that stuff, but we can video them. Yeah.

Sean, what do you think about, you're right. what do you think about though the i mean is the fact that we're talking about it is that something we should worry about i mean do you think it's do you think it's getting so overwhelming to where they can't hide it as much anymore or or is it just we have new technology now i mean i think that you know it could be i mean probably just a little bit of both i mean obviously it seems like you know the occurrences are are a lot more than what they used to be over the years, either that or people are just more apt to, you know, saying it and sharing the things that, you know, that they see because, like, you know, I remember back in the 90s and stuff, it's like, you know, not very many people would come out and say when they saw stuff because of the ridicule and the backlash and people thinking, oh, well, this person's crazy. You know, they're seeing things in the sky and, you know, aliens are coming down into their house at night. And it's like, but there's still all these reports and stuff of people having these kinds of occurrences.

So, you know, I don't know. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's weird. It's, it's kind of strange to me. And I think that, you know, overall, you know, I just, I don't know. It's just, there's so many different things. There's so many different ways that you can, you can just overall look at everything. And it's like, it's hard to make a definitive, you know, answer in to what's going on. because like, oh, I'm losing it.

No, wait, can I help you real quick? Yeah. He said sensationalism to science, okay? Now, let's talk about science for a minute. And I don't want to bring in COVID, but, you know, we do know that COVID was all about the science. And they said, trust the science. You are not allowed to question science when it comes to COVID. And by the way, I don't know if people out there know what science is.

It's questioning, right? I mean, that's literally like the foundation of science is to question science. And to come up with other hypotheses, other theories, other things that potentially could work. And there's a reason why they have peer reviewed studies. Peer reviewed studies are supposedly the gold crown of studies because it has all of these doctors looking at this consensually. And all agreeing on certain things or not. It's almost like taking a vote, right? And science is supposed to be about, you know, you have out of 10,000 unbiased scientists, right?

Unbiased, non-paid, non-funded scientists to give their actual opinion based on their education. And the problem with what we have come into nowadays is that there are so many institutions which employ scientists that have an agenda. And it's either it has to do with political or it has to do with money. right and usually those two things go hand in hand so science is no longer actual science and we found that out in COVID we found out that the doctors that were going against the official narrative of how it could save more people from COVID were the doctors that seemed like they were actually right I mean looking in hindsight you know you don't just put everyone on ventilators because we found out that killed 90% of people that were put on ventilators and even though you could

have actually saved a shit ton of people from COVID the science Science was we put everyone on ventilators and we get this amount of money for COVID, hospitalizations, deaths, all this stuff. That was science. Sensationalism, according to NASA and the government, is we have documented evidence. We have whistleblowers coming forward saying we have non-human biologics. We have reverse engineering programs that I have a very high-level security clearance, pretty much one of the highest level security clearances where I have talked to everyone that worked on all these programs

and I'm telling you right now we have reverse engineering programs where they are hiding money and have non-human bodies in their possession and according to the government that is sensationalism. It's like saying that hey, I saw a murder happen and it was this person that did it According to the government nowadays, that's science. But if you say, hey, I have a video of Tom killing Barry, that sensationalism today. And that is where we're at. It's like if, I mean, if you look at what actually the narrative or the official stance of the government is,

sensationalism is, hey, I have the closest people to the thing. That's sensationalism because it goes against their thing. It's not disinformation. It's not misinformation. It's called malinformation. And malinformation is true, but it is unfortunate. It's unfortunate to their narrative. And that's also sensationalism.

And then you got science, which is what the official, quote-unquote, science is. It's like to say, well, we're the government and we say it's this way. And if you don't agree with it, I'm sorry to tell you, but that's the way it is. Yeah. And you're going to be blocked off every social. platform there is if you don't agree with us. And this is getting into not just socialism. I think

we're fast forwarding very fast in this country, in many countries, by the way, to communism. And I know we went crazy there, but just give me some of your some of your takes on it. Sensationalism versus Science. Did you

believe the science in COVID? I mean, did you believe all the officials that came out and said, hey, this is science, so you should believe it. And you still believe it. If you did maybe believe in that. I didn't. I did not believe any of the stuff that they came out that they were saying about the old jabby jab. And it's just like, you know, and now we're like we're seeing all these things where, you know, we're having these, you know, embalmers who are, you know, in like the morgues and the funeral homes and stuff.

And they're prepping, you know, bodies and stuff of these COVID, you know, patients. and like they're getting these strange blood clot things in their veins and like they can't get the embalming fluid to go through the veins properly because of it and like you know people are you know noticing you know that's going on and it's like you know clearly we we know now that you know it came from a lab you know in uh china or wherever it was the Wuhan and it's just like you know if if we're fabricating stuff like that who's not to say what we're not fabricating, you know, else, like what else do they got? Sean, what you just said? Do you believe what you just said as far as like, okay, if you can't get an embalming fluid to go through veins because of these clots or these almost fibrous things, right? Is that, would you consider the government to say that is sensationalism or science?

Oh, they're going to straight up say that it's sensationalism because they're not the ones coming out with the information saying that, you know, this and that. Like, how are we supposed to trust, you know, anything that NASA says when, first of all, they doctor all their images when they come out. I mean, we've been able to prove that. You know, they green screen stuff and you can see, you know, the guys hanging on, you know, cords and stuff, getting caught in the wires and the different things. And it's like, you know, oh, we're supposed to trust this. We're supposed to believe you. But at the same time, why is it that we can't recreate any type of scientific, you know, method or gravity? Yeah.

We don't, we don't know what gravity is. We truly do not because we have no way to recreate gravity on our own. It's, it's only a theory, you know, and that's the thing. So it's like, you know, they try to say the same thing. Trust the science about gravity. It's like, okay, but we don't know what it is. We don't know how to do that. What we can prove is buoyancy.

So can you. Can you elaborate on these cords things? Because a lot of people like me don't know what you're talking about. What are you talking about chords and whatever? Okay. So if you get into the conspiracy rabbit hole with NASA, one of the things that you know, you'll find is that they do like the stuff like when they're showing the astronauts up on the space stations. Okay.

So like they're sitting there and they're like, oh, look what we can do. and they go and do like a flip or something like in one in one spot you'll see places and stuff where all of a sudden like as they're spinning they grab onto something that you you like can't really like see visibly with your eye and then once you kind of start cleaning up like you know the the images and everything then you start noticing okay this is this is where they are i mean there's stuff all over youtube that points all this stuff out and then there was a really good one that was supposed to be up on the space station not too terribly long ago where it was one of our astronauts outside of the satellite thing

and they're like doing repairs and everything. And then all of a sudden you see a mouse crawling on the side of it. And at first you're like, wait, no, no, no. And then you watch the video and then you watch the video. And there's a field mouse. on the space station thing that they're saying is the space station. And it's just move around, have the time of its life doing its thing like nobody else.

Like you guys didn't notice that thing in there to begin with. I mean, come on. Yeah, there's a bunch of weird stuff about that. I mean, obviously, we did the moon landing podcast, which I don't believe the moon landing was real. We've done two episodes on that, but you guys can go check those out.

Guy also mentioned 13.8, and I want to move through this NASA thing, 13.8 billion years old science, he said. Science says 13.8 billion years. But let's just be real. We have no idea. I mean, if we're really truly real, we have zero clue how old this universe is, nor do we have any idea like what the actual universe really is. These are theories, just like gravity. And by the way, gravity, we probably have more of a grasp on than the universe. And we don't have a very good grasp on gravity. But how can we have a grasp on universe? Because it is so vast and so big. Nobody could really know that. Well, and especially if we can't even still get back to the moon, which we probably

never went to. There's a reason why we're desperately trying to get to the moon and bring people to the moon. There's a whole theory on that. But anyway, so he talked about starting to see planets that can be habitable. And he talked about, you know, um, Life trans, you know, they talked about, oh, the chances of life are one trillion according to scientists. And also, I want to say one thing. And I want to get, I don't want to get. No, he was saying that there could be life like 100% in other planets. No, no, one trillion percent.

Yeah. That's the chances. Right. That's what he's saying. Yes, I get it scientifically. He also mentioned a word that we have talked about on this podcast many times. And like I said, I'm not getting religious or any of it. this stuff because as I've said a billion times, I don't know the answers. I don't know the factual

things about what religion's right or any of that, right? I think I've come to that realization. I do believe there's God, but he said the heavens, right? He mentioned when we look to the heavens, you know, this is what we're looking for. And I found that very interesting because there's one thing that I've always pointed out in the Bible. And it, and it's a very interesting. And it's a it's always one thing. And it when, you know, singular in the Bible, it talks about heaven. It's a place you go when you die according to the Bible that is, it's all happy, go lucky, and you're perfect, and everything's great, and you can have with anything you want. And then, and then there's also the heavens. And then in the Bible, it says towards the end of times and all this stuff, it says, you know, you will see signs from the heavens. It says in the Bible. Don't say heaven. It says signs from the heavens. And in the Bible, I believe.

leave specifically it talks about heavens as space and earth. I mean, not space, but not Earth. Space and the universe. And I found it interesting to where this NASA administrator referred to space as the heavens. And I just wanted to point that out because I have literally mentioned that a billion times and now you have this NASA administrator coming on talking about we're searching and exploring the heavens. So don't really have to get too much deeper. into that.

But if we're looking for rocky planets, and we've talked about this on other UFO episodes, I mean, many times, it seems like, and according to David Grush, there is a thing that is going on with this UFO-UAP phenomenon that is more than just physical. It's more than just aliens and spacecraft traveling from these rocky habitable planets, which it sounds very elementary, actually, when he talks about this. I mean, he's an old dude. A lot of our old, basically everyone is over a lot of these compartments inside of the government are very old people that are old school knowledge, old school education. Well, they don't understand interdimensionality.

No, they don't. They don't understand any of that. No, and I think we're starting to understand. Yeah. So Rocky Planets, you know, and I, my literal note here is Rocky Planet habitable oldest shit. And I said old as shit is because this guy's very old. What do you think about, like, do you really think NASA is that naive to believe that we're just searching out there with a telescope? For other life?

And trying to find some planet that may have life like we? I mean, are we literally that? What is the word? Nose. Are we that ignorant? Novice, I think. That we're not even considering, even though I think we have proof, by the way, in the government that these things are trans-dimensional. multi-dimensional,

but NASA's coming out and saying we're looking for, I mean, is NASA not getting the information? Is it, what do you think it is, Sean? Well, the thing about NASA is like, you know, with all the things like we already stated about them, I feel like

either they're just kind of like, we need to get our own evidence before we can say whether or not what you're bringing to us is legit. or not because it's it's like they're I don't know it's kind of like they're acting like you know the the stuff that's

being given to them shown to them you know isn't isn't good enough it's not satisfactory because they didn't capture it themselves so it's like you know are they just trying to be the ones that find some origin planet or

you know or whatever other life somewhere else before they can turn around and officially be like yes we know for sure that is what's going on. These are aliens 100% and, you know, the whole nine yards. So it's like, I don't know. It's, I don't, I can't really, I don't, I can't trust them. And I, you know that they have information that they, they definitely do not share. And yeah, for a long period of time in my life, you know, in particular, um, I was somebody who, you know, was pretty much like, you know, okay, there's no way that they, would do anything shading. There's no way that they would do anything the various, you know, this is a great organization, this and that. And that was due to having a family member that did work there and retired

from there. And he worked on different rockets and stuff that were supposed to go to the moon and Mars. And so again, you know, we don't even know if we can get to the moon. So it's like, why would they be working on rockets to get to the moon if we supposed to we can't get to the moon. And if that's the case, however were we able to get, you know, the rover all the way to Mars?

And if we weren't able to get, you know, a shuttle out of our own atmosphere, it's just like there's too many things that just like they don't add up. The math isn't math, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Well, I think that big problem with the moon thing and the Mars thing is when we're doing unmanned crafts,

we can get there. When we have men in a craft, we can't go through the van. been out on radiation. Yeah, the belt. That's the big problem because it's so full of radiation, it'll kill you on the spot. And we don't have technology to stop the radiation 100%.

And, yeah, I mean, and supposedly we had it in 1968. Yeah, I know. And how did we have it back then? But my point is they're looking for other rocky planets for us to find this is their agenda. They're not looking at what's in the sky and what's in, you know, what's in our atmosphere right now. They're looking for other things outside in space. And what is their agenda?

Do they think that we are going to ruin the earth? Do I mean, why are they looking at this compared to what we're seeing in the skies today? Yeah. By the way, guys, I want to make an announcement before we move on any further because we got so much good shit coming, which we're not going to make this crazy long. but I do have an announcement. I don't know if you guys, and Sean, by the way, you don't even know this. We have talked over the past few months. We have, you know, we have talked about the UFO, UAP topic.

We talked about, in specific, four months ago, where we wanted to go investigate this ourselves, okay? And we wanted to do this. Okay, so Pilot Ryan Graves was experiencing and encountering and his squadron was encountering these things off the coast of Virginia. I believe he said 11 miles off the coast of Virginia, which, by the way, on the ocean is a decent distance, actually. If you look at, if you're on the ocean, if you're on the shore and you're looking out at the horizon,

I believe the maximum distance you can see, like your actual horizon you can see is about 2.6 miles or somewhere around there. So he was saying that his unit was encountering these things 11 miles off the coast, right? A Virginia slash North Carolina. And it was daily, daily, every single day. So we had made a statement on our podcast about four or five months ago, another UFO podcast. And we said, if anybody can help us with that thing, and it wasn't jokingly. I was just going to be serious. To go investigate.

Yeah. To go investigate. Well, this guy reached out to us that has a research vessel. out of a place on the East Coast. I'll put it that way. It's a massive research boat. He does contract work for certain companies or organizations. He reached out to us not long after that podcast and said,

hey, I am willing to donate my vessel. I will captain it if you can get the resources or the whatever. So then we had talked about a month and a half ago. And someone else reached out to us and said, hey, I have about a half a million dollar camera system. That is Fleer, Thermal, and everything. And he actually does contract work as well. He said, if you can coordinate and we can get timelines together to where we can get my equipment on that boat, I'm down.

And then we also have another guy that has a potential device, not a potential. I mean, I think if you're going to have a device, he actually has to have a permit and license to have this. But it does just based on the power of the system creates radiation. And by the way, I don't even know if we should be telling this, but regardless, while you are now. We are going in October with all of this group together. We are videoing, recording, and everything for three or four days out in the exact same area to where these F-18 fighter pilots were experiencing these UAPs.

We're going to be off the coast, 11 plus miles off the coast. And we are going. And it's thanks to our audience. And by the way, for everyone that has reached out to want to help with this, we're doing it. I think it's going to be groundbreaking. I don't know if anybody else has done this so far. I don't think. I think our stuff that we've kind of got together is amazing.

We're very excited about it. Anybody else that wants to contribute or help or has things that can do that, please do. I do. But I have things that can help. I'm going to do the telepathic stuff. Okay. Yes. There you go.

Well, anyways, guys, if anybody else has anything to contribute to that as well, you know, you need to get with us in the next couple weeks. But I think this is very exciting. And are we going to find something? I don't know. But we're going to be in the same area. We believe where they see these things all the time. And we're going to do everything in our power to summons them there. Yeah, because we're going to have the same camera systems that are on a fighter jets.

We're going to have even actually more advanced systems in some ways. That's on the fighter jets, birth thermal and Fleer and you name it. So it's going to be cool. I wanted to touch base on that. I wanted to give everyone an update. We just need some little rockets to go up. No, we don't. Yeah, we do not.

Rockets. No, we don't. We do not do it. Anyways. All right, guys. So the next topic of what we're going to talk about is, and I want to mention this, we did a podcast specifically. on the Mexico aliens, the ones they brought out in these caskets in front of the Mexican government,

and they said these things are aliens, and they were from Peru. Well, as we mentioned earlier, we had released a video on TikTok to where we showed these bodies, and I read through comments here and there. A lot of people were like, oh, this is just complete bullshit. This is some kind of big show, blah, blah, blah. Even Ryan Graves, the pilot. that was in the committee hearing with David Grush and Commander Fravor said that he was very upset that they pulled a stunt like this and presented these bodies when he was there to testify before the Mexican government. Because Ryan Graves, he says, I'm all about pilot transparency.

I want to get the real information out there about this UFO, UAP phenomenon. and I think that my theory, and look, and I, by the way, I'm, I'm kind of, it kind of just rubbed me the wrong way how Ryan Graves came out against so hard about these, this researcher that brought these bodies in. It's just rubbing the wrong way. It was like he was better than them and he was scientific and he was factual, whereas they were not. And I, and I didn't like that. And so Ryan Graves, if you're listening, that was kind of a BS. move. And so since then, everyone has accused this guy, which, by the way, at one point in time, he had had other bodies that he had also found or had a part of to where supposedly, according

to fact checkers, and literally these were websites like Snopes, which we know has lied about 90% of what they've said, fact checking websites deemed his claims a lie. Although we actually still don't know his original claims were 100% a lie. We know that these heads that he found in a lot of these, and him and his team found were elongated skulls. They tried to say that, yes, these things were actual human bodies or human children, and they had some kind of ritual that made their skulls longer. Well, okay.

So supposedly he was deemed inaccurate or the media wants to say that he lied in the past, But that's not true, by the way, guys. That is 100% not true. If you actually look through the research and find out who is saying that he lied, it's just bullshit. So now the new claims, when he brings out these little alien bodies

with three fingers that are about three or four foot tall, well, after this hearing in the Mexican government, everyone came out and said, this is all bullshit. It's paper mache. I saw paper mache, paper mache, paper mache, that's all I saw. And then I also saw, well, this is, this was the other huge argument. This was the viral argument was he created this body based on animal DNA and animal bones and stuff like this.

And he constructed it, right? And he put this stuff together. And so then since that narrative went viral, it went away. The whole topic of the Mexico aliens that he got from Peru was completely like debunked. according to the mainstream narrative. Well, let me just tell you this. It was not debunked. It is actually factual.

And I'm going to say this right now. So Telegraph and many other agencies and news reporting agencies that actually have the integrity to report on the truth have since reported. And by the way, some of these bodies had already went to Chicago universities to be examined, DNA and skeletal. but alien bodies are complete skeletons, science and scientists say after x-rays. Experts that are still skeptical over Jamie Mason's claims of non-human beings after unusual presentation to countries Congress. Two aliens that were presented to Mexico's Congress by a discredited, and see, this is the key word they want to push in your brain, discredited UFOologists were tested by doctors.

on Tuesday amid cries from scientists of a hoax. The small skeletons, some two feet in length, prompted a bizarre breaking proceedings last week in Jamie Mousan's presentation to lawmakers in large wooden caskets. Mr. Mouss claims that the bodies were found in Peru and are non-human beings that are not part of our terrestrial evolution. However, the scientists and academics have dismissed the discoveries as yet another stunt by Mr. Mons. Doctors at the laboratory in Mexico City carried out X-rays and CT scans of the bodies on Tuesday.

Jose D. Jesus Zazaan Benitez, the Director of Health Sciences Research Institute of Secretary of the Navy, which carried out the test, said that they showed the bodies had not at all been assembled or manipulated. Number one, the guy's name is Jose, not Jesus. And number two... Jesus is the second part. Yeah. Well, anyways, number two is they already tested the DNA, and they said 33% of the DNA was non-human.

Yes, but the point of the naysayers were saying is the other percent they constructed as animals. So just hear me out. They said that these bodies were not manipulated nor assembled. That 100% contradicted earlier suggestions that the body. have been assembled with animal or human bones, though it's unlikely to Assange Mazan's critics because of his relationship to Mr. Benez. The pair appeared alongside each other at the Mexin Congress to give evidence of their discoveries. Now, since this, by the way, there have been multiple MRIs, CT, and X-rays from various universities that say that this body, these bodies, have not been touched or manipulated in any way.

shape, in any way, shape, or form. And you got to remember, these are like 1,500 years old. Yeah, 16, 1,500 years old. So, Sean, what do you think about? What do you think about this? Because, I mean, these things have three fingers. They have X-Aid, MRIed, CT scan, you name it. I think, sorry, I'm saying the CT.

Was this another official media attempt to discredit this researcher? to throw us off the path of just discrediting this story. I mean, there's been a lot of weird things. It seems like that's, you know, been coming out of Peru and in general here lately. So, you know, and then, yeah, you look at the stuff that he had, you know, several years ago in, you know, the controversy with all that and it being, you know,

faked alien bodies back then. So, you know, a lot of people, and I'm hearing that on a lot of different podcasts, that bring it up. I mean, they're all just like, you know, this is all, it's all fake. It's fake news. It's not real. And, you know, this is why this guy tried this back in it was like, like, 2016 or something like that when he first, you know, I got him and everything.

And so it's like, you know, a lot of people definitely don't believe it. But, you know, if there is evidence that's going to prove otherwise, then I'm open to hearing what that is. information, you know, is in, you know, trying to make a, uh, a judgment call my own based upon, upon that. And again, like, you know, I, I haven't been hearing much about this, you know, since all that took place other than, you know, like I said, on various other podcasts, that people bring it up. So it's like, yeah, it's not really gotten very much limelight. So, I don't know. It could it be them trying to discredit everything? This guy is the perfect opportunity, you know, or maybe it could be even a scenario as simple as, okay, he had found

the bodies way back then, but he knew that he wasn't going to get them. And, you know, just speculate that maybe he was like, okay, well, I got to recreate these somehow, bring it out, you know, prove it, you know, that these things are real until I can get the real ones and then, you know, pull the old switcheroo, nobody's going to know a different, you know, the difference. But, you know, if that's the case, it didn't work out for him. And, you know, maybe he's just trying to bring it, you know, come back again and do, okay, well, I got the real deal now. So like, you know, here's what it is.

But you can only cry wolf so many times before people are just like, you're full of shit. Yeah, absolutely. And I think the point to this is that I think they've proven now that these, these bodies are exactly how they were found. and according to many, many X-rays and scans and all this. And it was just a reality of, like, the media narrative to try to disprove this. But he has been debunked before. And I think that's what I wanted to say before is, you know, so many people came out and tried to debunk them before.

And when you're debunked once and then debunked again, you're not very, you know what I'm saying? debunked by websites like Snopes, Sherry. I mean, this is not... I'm just being devil's advocate. I get it. I get it. But you're literally being debunked by the same websites that during COVID said that vitamin D would not help save anything in COVID and that Ivermectin and nose sprays

and all the stuff did not work. And they were all about the pharmaceutical industry. So how are you not going to think that these same people that are going to debunk alien claims are not going to be funded the same way they were funded during COVID as they're funded by the military industrial complex that are reverse engineering these craft. I totally agree. All I'm saying is they're trying to make him look like he doesn't know what he's talking about. Absolutely.

I mean, that's 100% the point. 100% the point. I agree with that. Now, have you guys ever heard of, and I want to move, I don't want to move too fast in here, but I know that we're already at an hour and 11 minutes. but we got a lot to talk about. And we're going to try to kind of bring this to a closing point, but we also got to talk a little bit.

We got to update you guys on the F-35 scenario. We got some funny stuff on that. And we're going to talk a little bit more about that. We did the F-35 podcast, the missing F-35. And we had a lot of people reach out to us and say, hey, do you think this has anything to do with UFOs? And, you know, especially since it's on the East Coast, off the coast of South Carolina, you have so many UFO sightings there.

this advanced fighter jet. Somehow they just lost track of this thing. We're going to talk about that, but I want to bring up something briefly. And then we're going to talk a little bit about U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, and then we're going to get to F-35, and then we're going to close us out. But Gary McKinnon talks about finding the non-terrestrial officer file in the NASA server. Now, I don't know if any of you guys have heard this,

but I'm going to play this to you guys right now. This is a guy insider whistleblower that talked about finding a non-terrestrial officer file in the NASA server. We're going to play it right now. We're going to talk a little bit about that and then we're going to get into our next subject. Here you go.

I was obsessed with UFOs. I was dying to find out the information. The internet was a real enabler for finding out information by going to places you shouldn't be in. because they were so open. There were a lot of text files that had lists of places, installations, military bases, Air Force bases, Navy sites, NASA sites.

So there was a lot to go through. But I did find a gold mine of information. According to McKinnon, he unearthed a secret U.S. military program that existed entirely in space. I found the spreadsheet was actually titled in the column, Non-Torrestrial Officers, as well as, officers' names. It had a ship names. None of these were ocean-going ships.

It was astounding. They're not Navy, they're not in the Army, and not even Air Force. So to me, I was thinking there must be an off-planet space force, or space fleet, at least. After McKinnon's arrest, he was told the US government intended to sentence him to 70 years in prison.

At the time, I thought, six months community service was all you'd do for Computer Misuse Act in Britain. We fought extradition for 10 years, and we actually won the case. But unfortunately, today, the arrest warrant is still live, and I'm still on the Interpol red list, so I can't travel.

Could it be that Gary McKinnon's account of what he saw when he hacked into computers at the Pentagon and NASA is genuine? Is the U.S. government engaged in secret operations beyond earth. I think Gary McKinnon is truthful in that he did see files on secret space programs, UFO-related material. Whether that information was legit or was just sitting there somewhere, we can't say.

But there's no question that he did what he claimed to have done. While there are many who question the authenticity of Gary McKinnon's account, other, more notable figures have since come forward with similar claims. In 2013, former Canadian Minister of National Defense, Paul Hellyer, declared that the United States government and other governments around the world are working with organized groups of extraterrestrials. Why do you say that UFOs are as real as the airplanes

flying over our heads? Well, because I know that they are. They've been visiting this planet for thousands of years. and there is what is called a federation of these people. Paul Hellyer was a former Deputy Prime Minister of Canada and a former Minister of Defense of Canada. He was able to talk to a lot of important people within the U.S. and Canadian system,

and it was his opinion based on the sources that he had that there are many groups that are here visiting us. Paul Hellier is not the only government official to come forward with alleged knowledge of a federation of extraterrestrial races. Recently, the former Israeli chief of space security, Haim Eshed, came out and said that there is a galactic federation and that indeed many world leaders know of and are in talks with delegates of the Galactic Federation.

I don't know what to make of that claim, but when you have enough of them, a pattern emerges and it starts to take on a bit more gravitas in functioning as bona fide evidence. Dr. Heim Eshed claimed that the extraterrestrials in this Galactic Federation were in contact with governments around the world. It's a fascinating idea and one that may well be true.

Okay, so there's a lot to say about all that. So Gary McKinnon obviously was a guy that hacked into NASA Systems, found this file that said that basically we were cooperating with federations of non-terrestrial beings, right? Extraterrestrial beings. And, you know, to me, when I first hear this, by the way, and Sean, I kind of think you somewhat mentioned this earlier. That was kind of part of your theory on. what are they hiding from us?

But to me, it still feels like we're giving our government, our systems, so much credit when we can't supposedly even get to the moon. Are we cooperating with some kind of federation of aliens? I mean, do you really think that? I mean, it's funny that this is what got brought up because, I mean, this is total synchronicity right now because when you guys came on my show, one, of the things that I had first brought up when we had started talking about UFOs was the possibility of there being a galactic federation and whether or not we are actually a part of this federation. We actually have space, you know, fleets that are out there that we are completely unaware of. I mean, that has been a big conspiracy theory amongst, you know, the truthers out there for for some time. And I mean, I don't see why. couldn't be possible for sure. And I mean, if this guy, you know, is a hacker and got in there and was able

to find these things, and you know what? I appreciate those dudes that are going in and even though what they're doing is completely illegal, they're hacking into these, you know, these private secret government servers and finding these, you know, top secret files and leaking this stuff out that most of us would never hear anything about that would have, you know, been kept hush-hush for ever more unlikely. If it's... it wasn't for those things. If it wasn't for the leaks and stuff that is going on, like we would still probably be in the dark,

just like we were, you know, 100 years ago. Yeah. Well, and I did want to make a point with David Grush and that whole deal, right? And going back just for a minute to this.

You know, there's been new reports that when a UFO whistleblower told Congress in July, and we're talking about David Grush, that they had retrieved aliens, spacecraft and biologics, many dismissed his claims. But now dozens of whistleblowers have given testimony to Congress since then. I don't know if a lot of you will know this, but since the David Grush, Ryan Graves, and Commander Fravor testimony in front of Congress, there have been dozens of whistleblowers

based on his testimony that have come forward in front of Congress and the Pentagon and the IC Inspector General that are now corroborating his claims. So for the people that have tried to say that David Grush is full of shit, he's his sensationalism, is sensationalized, it is not fact, he is only hearing this information third hand and all this stuff. Apparently, there are dozens of people that have come forward

and many reports are saying that some of these people that actually worked firsthand on this technology, some of the people that he actually was referring to that said, hey, I had written reports on these people that worked on these non-human biologics, these crash retrieval programs, they have since now come forward to Congress. They have given their testimony. And we're just going to get more and more to come forward.

Now, I just want to make that very clear for anyone out there. Why was it not public? I don't know. But it is official. You guys can look it up out there. Look up whistleblowers come forward after David Grush testimony. They have come forward to Congress. There are dozens of people.

Michael Schellenberger is reporting us on X. And obviously, he's a, I think he's a very credible journalist, not only himself, but any other credible journalists that are, I guess what they want to refer to as friends journalists because they report the actual facts and the truth. these guys are reporting it. They're getting the actual documents and the pieces from Congress people in the government to verify this information. They're not going to ever come out and say that this is happening. And it's not because they are hugely in the spotlight, especially on X and their platform is massive on there.

These guys are really doing their due diligence and their work. And we know for a fact that after David Grush, Ryan Graves, and Commander Fraveor testimony, we have had dozens of. whistleblowers underneath David Grush said to come forward and verified 100% his story as far as they have collected alien bodies and crash retrievals. But unfortunately

until we have the government coming out and saying we have aliens or whatever, blah, blah we need the government to come out and say this. You're never ever going to get that. Not just whistleblowers. We need the actual government and say, hey guys, we are your government

we know it's happening. It is happening. Here it is. But I don't think you're ever going to get that. Sean, I mean, do you think the government's ever going to come out and say, oh, well,

you know, yeah, we do have aliens and because I think, I think there's a lot of sinister shit they're doing because of this. And if they come out and, you know, officially say it, they're going to be held accountable,

potentially, or lose money or funding or who knows. I mean, think about it like this. when you're wrong at something, do you like to admit that you're wrong? No, but I don't think they ever actually thought. No, absolutely not. No one does. So like when you have something on that big of a scale, like, why would they come out and admit that they're wrong?

They're at fault for anything. Like, no, that's not the way they do it. They're going to keep going about their business. So it's like, you know, if there is way more that's going on than, you know, than what's being said to us. Like, if this is just the tip of the iceberg, and there's so much other things that are going on behind the scenes, I mean, with how our government is, I wouldn't put it, wouldn't put it past them to be doing some pretty wild shit in all honesty. I mean, we, we know from all the different things that they've tried to do. I mean, a perfect example. Back during Reagan's time period, they, Operation Star Wars.

And, you know, you think, okay, what? there's no way that wasn't a thing. Okay, you know, for real, look it up. Operation Star Wars. And basically, you know, the whole gist of it was that he wanted to get satellites up in the sky, you know, over Russia, essentially, and wanted to have them basically attached with laser beam cannons on them. And that was, that was the whole gist of it and what they were trying to do and trying to get into space was these satellites that were going to have lasers that could, they could shoot at Russia whenever. they wanted to. So it's just like, you know, if they're going to do things like that, if they're going to, you know, have these different things, MK Ultra, you know, all the different stuff that they're trying to do, who's not to say that, you know, when it comes to the UFO, the UAP phenomenon that there's not more sinister things behind the scenes that we don't even know about yet. And I mean, if that's the case, I mean, who knows, that could be some scary as shit, dude. Do you, do you ever think, Sean, that, and this is something I've thought about a lot. And, and listen, we've got back. backlash on the spot because I'm going to talk about it again. I don't give a damn.

And I think the reason why we have to talk about this is because people struggle with this just like I do. But especially for us, as much as we talk about this UFO, UAP topic, right? I mean, we haven't even touched on at all, really, the interdimensional stuff. I mean, we have on the podcast before, but we haven't done this. But without getting crazy deep in the interdimensionality of it and, you know, potential reasons why the government's hiding it, which I don't think they're hiding it

because they're going to ruin religion because they've already ruined religion, I think, in in 2023 regardless. It's like everything that they're pushing is against religion in most ways. But do you ever think, like, has the UFO thing, like, if you think that UFOs

and UFOs being here, other beings from other planets or dimensions are real, like if I can, If say it, say to I'm God right now. And I tell you, Sean, hey Sean, I'm going to tell you the 100% fact and you're going to just believe it as I say it because it is 100% fact. There are interdimensional beings in your realm.

How does that, me as God, because I just told you that, because I'm God now just for the sake of this conversation. How does that affect your thought process on, and by the way, I don't know your religion, no idea about any. of that, but how does it affect your thought process on what happens when you died? Do we have some mission on earth? So it's not mainly about religious. No, it's your spirituality. No, it's about whatever he wants to take it as. I'm just saying you might have grown up Baptist. You may have grown up atheist. Who knows? But how does it affect your thinking on your life mission, especially if you're passionate about the UFO thing and you want to know? But how does it affect you're thinking as far as like what you know of life to be and does it affect anything about

what you think about when you die? I mean, I was born and raised Catholic and I was a part of the Catholic Church until I was 18 and then I stopped going there. And for, you know, quite a bit of my life, I definitely struggled with, you know, faith and spirituality when it comes to that because there were so many things within the Catholic Church and the Bible that I felt was contradictory and kind of went against each other. And I honestly, I didn't, I didn't like it. So then I eventually kind of moved into, you know, Wicca and things like that, more pagan kind of stuff. But then here recently, I kind of came to a different kind of conclusion to where I believe that the metaphysical and the spiritual and all these different things, they actually intertwine God and Jesus.

and, you know, all the different spiritual stuff with ghosts and things like that, it's all connected. And what's even crazier is like, you know, I have so many people, you know, so many friends, you know, that have special abilities and gifts, you know, they're tarot readers, they're different things and stuff like that, but they still believe in God and Jesus. And at the same time, those same people also have high, high accounts of seeing things in the sky, You know, in particular, I have an episode that you guys can go onto my podcast and see with esoteric hip-hop artist Truthseeka.

And a lot of his music is about UFOs and different things like that. And he records and has figured out a technique to where, like, even during the daylight, he can pick out things flying in the sky. He's figured out how to, you know, clean everything. up to where these things are more visible to him. He even has a video like on YouTube of a thing that he had caught in the sky that just transforms into a Mercaba.

And for anyone who doesn't really know what a macabah is, it's the geometrical shape that looks similar to the star of David, but it would be a 3D dimensional shape of it. If that makes any sense to anyone out there. So, but I mean, yeah, the video is, you know, him, you know, focusing on this thing. And then it just goes from like a circular thing to where to, it, it just like transforms into this macabre. And like, you know, he couldn't explain it.

But, you know, a lot of his, his music and stuff has to do with those things. And again, another person that I had on my show, Shelby Lopez, she's a tarot reader here in Indiana. You know, really amazing person, you know, has a lot of crazy ability. and, you know, same kind of thing. She sees stuff in the sky all the time. And I told her when she came on the show, I was like, you need to start recording this stuff. Like, you need to start trying to get, you know,

some more video evidence of this, you know, so you can come out with it. And she was like, you know, I've honestly thought about that because she's also a photographer on the side and has her own photography business. And I was like, you got a good enough camera. Like, you should be able to go out there into the country because we live at BFE.

There's nothing but cornfields everywhere. Like you have a clear view from your property to the sky. And she's like, oh, I can't do it at my house. I'm too scared to try to look for that kind of sort of stuff up, you know, in the sky where I live because it's, you know, my safe place. And it's like, okay, I understand that. But, you know, her, she's telling her husband all the time, like she sees these things and he's never believed her because like he's never seen it.

And then one night, they just so happened to be. the two of them that didn't have any of the kids they're driving on the road and she's like she looks up and she starts seeing there's these lights that are sporadically moving in the sky it's not a straight trajectory like an airplane or a helicopter or anything that's flying

normal it's just going from boom boom boom one spot just jumping all over the place and she's like do you see that and he was like I'm so sorry Shelby I didn't I didn't think that you were actually seeing anything I'm so

sorry. Like, now he's starting to believe that she sees these things. It's like, it's all interconnected. And how it's interconnected, I don't understand. I don't know. But hopefully one day, you know, we can figure out some sort of conclusion as to what that is. Because

I mean, there's, you know, we know just from CERN, if we're going to trust the science, you know, like we've been saying, like CERN has already proved that there is multiple dimensions. We have spiritual people that do different things that tap into Akashic records. and, you know, different lives that we've lived, past life regression, things like that.

And it's like they also believe that there's different dimensions. I mean, it's a huge possibility. And I mean, I could go, I mean, I could go for days talking about different dimensions. Let me, let me ask you, you mentioned pagan. Now, I know that listeners especially, especially since we've talked about religion and Bible and stuff on the podcast before, you mentioned pagan. A lot of people hear pagan, they think of. devil worshipping. What do you, what do you think about that? What is pagan? Exactly. Because you mentioned pagan. I mean, it's, it's, yeah, that's a super stereotypical thing. And I mean, it is absolutely not

anything like devil worshiping. I mean, you're, you're giving thanks and giving your praise to, to nature and the things that are out there, the wind, the elements, you know, fire, earth, water, you know, all the different things. You're, you know, paying, you know, homage to the sun in the moon and the stars. I mean, Mother Earth in general. And wanting to be able to, you know, connect to where we are. It's the same thing as like, you know, when they tell you what's one of the good things that you should do after you've, you know, been on an airplane and you've been flying for some time

is to go outside and then take your shoes off and walk barefoot in the grass for a little bit and it grounds you. We're able to prove that this planet that we are walking on is more or less like a gigantic battery that contains power, it contains energy. And when we connect with it, it's just like, you know, all these crazy things start happening. And I just, I mean, I love it. I love the topic. I love thinking about all the different kinds of possibilities because, I mean, there's

many things I could go everywhere. And, you know, one of the things that I'm currently working on in my life is trying to become an animal Reiki healer. So that way, you know, I can start using the energies that I have within myself to heal, you know, people's pets and animals and stuff that are having their own issues and whatnot. So, like, you know, anyone who's interested in those kinds of things, you know, they'll definitely enjoy coming over to my podcast and listening to my guests and all the different. people that I'm going to have on there.

Yeah, and I think your point to like, you know, you taking your shoes off, grounding yourself to earth. I believe that's 100% true. Well, it's like the Schumann Residence. Absolutely. The earth has its own heartbeat. Yeah. And you have crystals and you have rocks that are healing powers.

You have herbs that have healing powers. Yeah. I believe in all that. And people say, oh, that's wicked or somewhere. You know, it's against God or it's against this or against. or against a religion. You know, I am not a religious person. I am a spiritual person.

Yeah. And I think that people get religion and spiritual mixed up. Yeah, religion is, I mean, I don't want to say this bad. I don't want to, I don't want to piss off any Christian. No. I mean, if you're a Christian, that's great. You believe in the Bible. You believe in what you believe in.

I think religions can be cults. I mean, in a way. And I think there's a lot of things that can be cults. Oh, my God, Chad. You're really going to piss people off. Shut up. I'm saying. I mean, he's got a good point, though. And a lot of people think that, you know, religion is more or less cool. I mean, hell, I had a time, you know, I ride BMX. And I mean, I'm 35 and I still ride my bike and stuff. I go to skate parks and everything. But when I was in my younger days, like, I had a group, I had this, these two dudes stopped me in the middle of the road in downtown and Fort Wayne, Indiana, which, you know, is a pretty big city. And we're riding street whatnot. And it's like, this guy just started like trying to like talk to me about how. you know what do you think happens to you when you die and this like going on and on and on i'm just like whoa dude first of all i don't know who you are or anything and then so like you know i just kind of

went with my catholic background and just gave him some generic spiel and he just kind of starts laughing he's like oh that sounds like something that you know so catholic would say it's very it's very cult like and blah blah blah blah blah and i'm just kind of like okay dude but like the things that you're also trying to tell me sound completely wide in how out of left field in general so it's just like it's it's not about you know anyone trying to be like you know okay these people are absolutely stupid ridiculous whatever for believing what they believe in because you know it's it's not both to each their own everybody believes i just think that everything every religion all the different things they're all interconnected all the stuff that you know the

buddhist believe is is legit it's it's real all the stuff that the catholics are believing is legit and it's real and all the people, you know, that read the Quran, you read, you know, the, you know, the Jewish Bibles and it just said that all the different things. Like I think that all the things are are real. They're all connected. And it's religion that brings it somehow together, but I think. Because it's political. It's divides. It divides. But spiritality is like on the outside of all of them. I think they're all spiritual in their own way because they believe in their own religion. Yeah. It's the huge. human interpretation of the actual reality of what, you know, what's going on. But, you know, like the consensus of all of these religions have a lot of very similar characteristics, right? And so at least if we look at the characteristics from all of these religions, we can kind of look at a somewhat general picture of what might be the case, right? But to your point, you take your shoes off, you ground yourself to earth, human residence, as Sherry said, you know, it is an energy. It is a field of energy.

We know that for a fact. It is 7.83, I believe, Hertz, which is the Schumann resonance. And a lot of that creates lightning, and it creates a lot of these things, but it is the Earth's heartbeat. Then we think about dimensions. And if we talk about dimensions,

we know that that are frequent, I mean, if you really look at it, it is frequencies. There is time, which we don't understand, but I think time somehow, interacts and cooperates in some ways with frequencies. I think there... Time is relative.

Yeah, time is relative. And I think frequencies are transcending. I think they are transcending linear and any way you can think of. Do you remember the movie frequency? Oh, absolutely. Great movie. And she was in that thing and then she dropped through it. And it's spinning and everything.

And then like she was gone for... it was like, you know, quite a long period of time for her. But then like, you know, they're like, well, you just like drop straight through it. Nothing never happened. And that was it. Yeah. No, I think there's so much we just don't freaking realize. And, you know, when people and listen, with our podcast, there are so many people to reach out and say, oh, my God, I can't believe you went against Jesus on this topic.

Or you're preaching religion on this topic. Or you even talk about religion on this topic, right? but we're just trying and I think as human beings we have to right now given all of the vast information we have we're trying to work our way every day to try to figure out something

and when you hear NASA scientists come up with these theories of the billions of billions of planets on a rocky Zurbaz and we gotta do this the people that are going to really figure this shit out like what actually might be happening are the people

and it's spiritual people people, I think. It's not necessarily, and there's two different distinct things, spiritual and religion. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but I think in most cases the people figure it out. I mean,

that comes with conspiracies. That comes with news stories. You can't fool people anymore. Like, you might have used to have been able to fool people. You can't do it anymore. And I think the amount of information that is available today, and then when

you bring a, it's almost like when you, when, when information is released, you have a poll, a worldwide poll, like if you, if you have two or three options, it is a poll in itself. Whatever prevails in a lot of, in a lot of ways is usually right. I mean, there are some things that prevail that are not right or not correct or not scientific or whatever, but I think in the large part, you give it enough time and enough people consensus to where, a rumor or a conspiracy last for a certain amount of time. But we also have to remember that proves a lot of that. People that believe in the Bible believe in the Word of the Bible, the Word of God.

And we cannot like take that away from people. No. People that believe in the Bible, believe in the Bible. Yeah, they could be 100%. But there's one thing, which we're going to bring Nathan on on a podcast soon. And Sean, maybe you can be on that as well. but I think I just think if you read the Bible and a lot of the stories in the Bible, I'm just telling you, there's a lot of stories in the Bible that could also be misinterpreted to potentially be UFOs or aliens.

Oh, absolutely. You think about David and Goliath. Yeah, for sure. What do you think about it? I mean, I don't know how much to know about the Bible. Do you think stories could have been misinterpreted in the Bible that could have been actual aliens instead of certain things that they either classified miracles or these lights in the sky, these angels or all this stuff. I mean, is that something? I mean, I'm probably going to piss off

people, but no, definitely, definitely is. And I've actually seen that a lot here lately where people have been, you know, kind of point that out. And they're pointing out, you know, actual Bible verses. And they're pulling them out of, yes, Christian Bibles, the King James

versions. I mean, all the different things. to say, no, I haven't been to church since I was 18, but I think that I remember quite a quite a bit from, you know, when I was growing up and stuff. And I think that, you know, there's a lot of things that could be misinterpreted. I mean, there's so many different things. And you've got to think, you know, a book being so old and the possibility of all the, you know, through all the different centuries and all the different leaders and rulers and, you know, empires, and everything that has gone on and, you know, somebody changing wording this way, then somebody changing wording that way, removing stuff and adding things.

And it's just like, you know, there probably isn't any actual, you know, proof that, hey, that this is the exact, you know, how it's supposed to, how it was written, how it should be, how it should go, all the different things. It's just like, you know, there's too many possibilities. And I know a lot of people, you know, get really heated over that kind of, you know, topic as well. Because, again, everybody wants to believe that what they believe in is right. And, you know, that's great. You know, believe what you want to believe in. Believe what fits you. Don't try to believe what everybody else wants to believe in. You know, it's same with the whole truth community in general. Like, you know, don't just believe in UFOs because your buddy believes in UFOs.

believe in and it because you think that it's that it's real. I think that it's real because like when I was five, I remember driving in the car with my, my mom and seeing this circular object up in the, up in the sky. And it was very, you know, chrome looking and it wasn't moving anywhere. And it was disc-like. And I could see that it was, you know, just stationary,

but it was, you know, spinning. It was rotating. you know on its axis so i pointed out to my mom or at least i tried to but she was focused on driving so she was just like oh you know you're you're just probably seeing clouds or something just did whatever she could to just tell me that it wasn't real but like i can picture it in my head as clear as day even even now like i could if i could draw good enough i could they could have an actual picture of what i what i saw like i remember the details that freaking well. No, absolutely.

And I just have to agree because the same thing happened to me as a kid. I swear to God, this is what happened to me. I was in a gas station pulled up and I see this big disc above me like swarming and I tell my mom about it, but she was too busy to even see it. I swear to God. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things. I mean, I've had an encounter very similar.

It was at nighttime, very similarly. We've had our own encounter. But, yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of things we've probably seen in the past that, you know, we could maybe account to UFOs. Yeah, but you forget about it as a memory. Well, it's stigmatized. And as it stigmatized, you don't say it. You're crazy for saying it. I want to touch on something, too, because we got two quick topics before we wrapped us up.

the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol recent release videos of UAP and UFO potential encounters with Customs and Border Patrol. And they have about 10 or 11 videos that show cameras systems on either their helicopters or aircraft that they cannot explain. They do not have actual data on these things being aircraft in any way, shape, or form. There is one in particular to where this craft or this, what looks to be like a saucer-shaped, tick-tack-type deal, is chasing a A-10 whorthog, as some call them, or Thunderbolt or whatever. They have this video, and this thing is chasing this military aircraft. Now, I don't know why the A-10 was being chased and U.S. Customs and Border Patrol was there to see this and witness this on their flirtism. I don't know.

All I'm saying is this is on the official U.S. Customs and Border Patrol website. They release videos and documentation. They even further explain how, I mean, to be honest, if you guys go to this link and I'm going to try to put in this episode and just go down to like page 32 and talk about anti-tileged. gravity technology that they believe that some of these crafts have, it is groundbreaking documentation from the United States government that no one's talking about. And we're talking about and we're talking about anti-gravity propulsion. And this is the actual U.S. Customs and Border Patrol website to where they have this, I think it's like 300 pages of documentation. But not only that, they have 11 pages or sorry 11 videos of video of these UFOs and UAPs interacting with their craft, whatever it is, whether it be aircraft, helicopters, whatever.

Some of these things go across farmland. They almost look like ghost instead of craft. I mean, it's hard to explain, but some of these things look like it is a being, like a, I mean, it would almost look like you watch, watching a horror movie. Like it transforms from a Tick-Tac to like a cube? No. No. No. This thing looks like a person in like a robe or some weird

shit. I mean, that's the only way I can put it, but they're moving, they're moving across the grounds. They're moving past cattle and all the stuff. And this is being picked up by Border Patrol and Customs. Then there's other things that look like actual Tic Tacs or

actual spacecraft. And these things are 11 plus videos. they're chasing airplanes in some cases. They're going across the ground that look like very high speeds. And then you have some things that look like they're taking on different formations. Different, you know, it's weird. I mean, it's very strange. And yet this is released.

And this should be the number one leading story for all mainstream media. When you have these craft that if you watch these videos, that everyone should be like, holy shit. This is some of the most groundbreaking things we've seen from the government, and yet no one gives a damn. It's not on mainstream media. It's not anywhere. It's been on Twitter.

It's been on X. And people talked about it. But these are things that are crazy. And this is things that have been picked up on Fleer and all this stuff. And some of these things look crazy to me. So what I want to point out here for a second is we're going to do a rumble. I don't know if it's going to be a live stream or video, but we're going to do a live stream or video on our Rumble account.

It's an investigator with podcast. Go check us out over there. We are going to break down each and every piece of this footage. Sean, if you want to come on, you're more than welcome to. We can kind of break it down together. We'll break down together. We'll go down through 11 videos. We'll review the actual documents to where we talk about anti-gravity on this stuff.

I think that's going to be our first video back to Rumble. many of you have reached out to us. I said, you guys got to come back to Rumble. Have to check that out. So I just want to let you guys know that. Those videos are crazy. So last thing, I know this is almost two hours, but we're going to play one more thing

because we've got to play this. I want to play the F-35-9-1-1 call from this resident, I guess, in North Charleston, and is this guy, it sounds like he's Hispanic or in Hispanic descent, and then he puts on the pilot of this F-35 that just lost his fighter jet his $100 million fighter jet.

I'm going to play this now one call to you guys and then we're going to talk about it on the backside. Here you go. 1-1, what's the address? That's the emergency. Tell me exactly what happened? I guess we got a pilot at our house and he says he got ejected. He ejected from the plane

so we just see if we could get it. get some ambulance please. I'm sorry, what happened? We got a pilot in the house, and I guess he landed in my backyard, and we're trying to see if we could get an ambulance to the house, please. Okay. So, like, how, okay. What is the phone number that you're calling from?

Okay, we're getting a half on the way. Give me just a moment. Yeah, no problem. I'm in a house. I'm in a neighborhood. I don't know. Okay. Are he with the patient now?

Yes. Okay. How old is the patient? We have a military jet crash. I'm the pilot. We need to get rescue rolling. I'm not sure where the airplane is. It would have crashed landed somewhere.

I ejected. Okay. How far did he fall? I was at 2,000 feet. Okay, and what called the fall? An aircraft failure. Okay, is there any serious bleeding? I don't know.

I can't see myself. No, he looks fine. He's just so distracted. What did the other person say? I feel okay. My back just hurts. Okay. Has there been a report of an airplane crash?

I have not seen any come up. up yet. What part of the body was injured? Ma'am, I'm a pilot in the military aircraft, and I ejected, so I just rode a parachute down to the ground. Can you please send an ambulance? Yes, sir. I've already told you they're on their way.

I'm just required to ask these questions while they're en route. Okay, what part of your body is injured? Ma'am, listen, I literally just crashed in F-35. And you know, the funny thing is, he said. said, what part of your body? Are you bleeding anywhere? She's like, and he said, I can't see myself. Are you also stealth? Yeah, but

the other guy is like, no, you're not bleeding nowhere. No, you know, you know bleeding. You know, the act of cloaking is on like predator. No, but it was so funny because he's like, I can't see myself man. I'm like, the Mexican guy was like, are you

still strapped into the sea? He's just in the scene strapped in the guy's living room. This is a dude that's trying to call out for work. Like, I am sick. I'm really sick. I literally just felt 2,000 B, bro. I don't even know where my damn jet is, bro.

It could be anywhere. But listen, here's the thing about the F-35. So we have had so many people right into us. And they're like, is this something that we are not understanding what happened? Well, people said that the jet went down because of weather. But when we looked at the weather, I think it was pretty good. Well, it doesn't matter. The official report was that the jet went down and the pilot ejected because of weather.

Yeah. That's what I just said. But you, yeah, but what I'm saying is, Sherry, is that this is a multi-million dollar almost, I think they said this particular. jet and there are different variations, but this was over a hundred million dollar fighter jet, which is equipped, by the way. Their pilots have this helmet that is basically like an alien. I mean, you can see everything in this helmet, night vision, synthetic vision. You can see the horizon, even if you are completely blacked out the craziest weather

conditions possible. You can look out of your wind. window and see it like it is daytime. And I think that's what people don't realize. So the only way that this jet would have ejected because of weather is just bullshit. I'm sorry, this thing could go through a hurricane. It really could. I mean, I was about to say that exact same thing.

I guarantee that thing can fly through a hurricane and it could be completely fine. Yeah, absolutely. So there's something they're hiding. I mean, there's something the government's hiding that happened. Now, I'm not saying it's UFO. right and we're talking about this on the UFO UAP podcast but um but this is stealth technology um you know and and we do know that potentially we got that technology from what sherry said earlier and we've talked about this before from reverse engineering and i think that's why

a lot of people questioned the narrative and questioned what happened like the video of the aircraft actually crashing did not show actual debris I mean, if you watch a video of the crash site, quote unquote, there is no debris. You don't see pieces of the aircraft. You see a basically perfectly carved out section of woods. And they say that this is where the aircraft crashed. There were also, the military came, just like they would have come for Roswell or a spacecraft crash. And they put up all this tape and these signs that said this is a national defense area.

if you get anywhere near here, you can be shot or killed, whatever. I mean, it was an official scene. It was very much like what I would imagine the Roswell area

was classified as back in the day. But yet, no reports of trucks carrying out parts of the F-35, no reports of any of this. There was the overhead camera system that was on this helicopter, this news helicopter, or whatever they portrayed,

did not show any actual debris, didn't really show anything burnt, but we know that this aircraft, this F-35, I believe, had just taken off from Bufurt, and where the pilot ejected was literally just 50 or 40 miles north of Buford, which is over North Charleston.

So if he had just taken off, obviously he had fuel, more than likely he was headed up towards North Carolina somewhere off the coast, who knows, but he would have had fuel and it would have been

a pretty decent explosion. There's a lot about that crash that doesn't make sense. That's all I'm saying. And I'm not saying it's UFO related. I'm not saying it's whatever. I've actually kind of taken a stance of potentially the aircraft was hacked.

We don't know. But there's, I just, Sean, I'm just telling you, I think there's a lot going on as far as the UFO stuff that we are not being told

and it goes back to the NASA hearing where when I asked the question is the fact that we're talking about this so adamantly now is it because it is such potentially a threat at this point we have pilots coming out

committee hearings and yes I know there is a big fact of people will say, oh, this is a big si-off and a big false flag and they want to bring your attention here. I don't think that's what it is. I don't. I just absolutely do not think that. But is it really something that is starting to become a problem? And maybe is it becoming more of a problem now because of how advanced and also screwed up our society is getting to the point where, you know, are we about to be?

recycled again? And I know you may not understand what I'm saying, but if we've had multiple civilizations and you think about ancient civilizations far beyond what we had before, are we, are we about to be recycled again? I mean, a lot of people, you know, have that whole theory about, you know, the great resets and why different civilizations have just, you know, disappeared over, over the years, you know, the story of Atlantis, that's a, that's a huge one. You know, supposedly this, this place was so big and was thriving so well. And then, boom, it was gone.

You know, and same with, like, you know, the, the Mayans and the Aztecs. And it's just like, you know, one day, there's like these civilizations were just like, boom, gone. And they weren't there anymore. And what caused these? Is it because, you know, same kind of thing. They ended up finding technology that old

ultimately was their demise, you know? Yeah. Is that what's going on now? Are we now getting to the point where we are becoming, you know, so proficient with, you know, our technological advances that maybe, you know, we are a bigger threat to ourselves than what we realize. And that, you know, that could ultimately be to where, you know, whether it's nuclear winner or whatever it is, whether some sort of weapon that we don't even know, you know, you know that we have yet some sort of laser thing that could you know death star the whole entire planet and to you know just barren wasteland for you know the next thousands of years again until the planet terra forms itself enough to where things start growing back and the evolutionary

process starts over again and who's not to say that that hasn't happened so many times before me it's always a possibility for sure yeah and i mean if you think about you know do we have weapons that could transcend dimensions. And maybe that's why these things are so interested in signals and so on. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's very strange what's going on. It is absolutely very weird. But, Sean, I think that this is two hours.

We've talked about a lot, even though we could talk forever about this subject. I want to let everyone know the big Grimbowski podcast is where Sean can be found. Spotify is probably the best place, but if you guys listen on Apple or wherever, you can find them there. And we do have an actual video episode with you. We did a couple weeks ago, which you have not released the video yet, but you do have the audio of our podcast with you to where we talked a couple of hours about everything, from ghosts to UFOs to put a little bit of politics, everything. And people want to hear that episode. Go to the Big Grimbowski podcast. I think you guys will really enjoy his episodes.

Sean puts in a lot of work, getting guests. I think a lot of your episodes are guest-oriented, right? I mean, you pretty much have guests on almost everyone. As of right now, yeah, that's kind of how it's been. I had seven episodes to begin with when I first started using Anchor as my host. But since you came on and we had talked about the algorithms and how it was grew up my algorithm was Spotify. I just went ahead and deleted that one altogether.

So there wasn't two of the same one. And that was kind of an issue that I was running into. So I was just like, it's best to just do it this way. So it starts off at a number that's not number one. But eventually in the future, I'll just do an episode that will just be labeled the lost episodes and just kind of give everybody a story about why those episodes are gone

and why they're at where they are. But I mean, everybody, you know, definitely go and check out the episodes. The guests I do have on there are super awesome. Some bigger podcast names out there. It maybe even be somebody that you've listened to before. So, again, I have a link tree. I'm on TikTok, Instagram, all the different things. You can just, you know, search it up.

And you'll find for sure. And, you know, feel free to hit me up, especially, you know, if you guys have, like, your own different kinds of topics. and stuff that you might want to hear on the show. You know, I'm always open to hearing something. I had somebody give me a recommendation of doing an episode on Edgar Casey. So I end up doing an episode with a group called Bizarre Encounters. And we talked about Edgar Casey and all the crazy stuff that happened in that guy's life many years ago as well.

I know you put a lot in work in your stuff. And yeah, I remember you reached out to us back in a day. and you know we've collaborated we've talked we've tried to give you some advice and dude you're going to be good man and and i encourage every single person out there every one of you go listen to him because you know as people like him i i think we've talked on this podcast before if you guys have an idea you want to do a podcast i am willing to help you and i think shan had reached out a while back and said hey i'm i'm either i don't know if you had done it or about to do it i don't remember but i was like i'll help you any way you can any way we can

And I will do that for anybody. I think every voice needs to be heard, especially people that are trying to, you know, delve into the ideas and topics that nobody wants to talk about. The mainstream media doesn't want to talk about. I think the more verses or sorry, voices that can be heard, the better we are.

It's not a competition, it's collaboration. And Sean, I'm very proud of you, dude. And I think you're going to do great things. Thank you for coming on this episode. There's so much more to talk about. But guys, like I said, we're going to have a rumble. Probably our first Rumble episode back. We're going to break down this Border Patrol footage.

We're just going to watch it. We're going to talk about it. We're going to react to it. And Sean will probably be on that. So make sure you guys follow our Rumble channel. It's an investigator with podcast. You can find us there. Also, we're on Facebook and social media.

I'm sure Sean is, like he just said, he's on social media everywhere as well. Go follow him. Big Grumbowski podcast. podcast. Sean, thank you so much for coming on, man. It was, uh, thanks for having me. It was, it was, it was, it was definitely fun. Um, guys. And until next time, we love you. Peace out. Have it going.