Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcast | Interdimensional Aliens | Do We Finally Know?

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

Do we finally know where the alien sightings and encounters are originating from? Are they actually not from another planet at all but rather coming from another dimension? We review Tom Delonge's recent interview.

to another investigator podcast. I was about I could say conspiracy podcast, but we're not, I mean, it's not conspiracy anymore. Technically our name is

conspiracy podcast. Yeah, but take the conspiracy out because conspiracies are coming true. Yeah, well, and the overlords will banish us from the earth.

The evil, the evil overlords. The evil, uh, hill hounds. Hell hounds, yeah, the black dogs.

The hell hounds. The black dogs in the night. That's looking to take us. out. Anyways, guys, welcome to Investigator Earth Podcast. I am one of your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. The other host, thank you for having me here with you guys, because, you know, it's awesome to be with you every night and to hang out, well, not every night, but just to hang out with y'all and talk and think through things. Like, you know, collaboration is a lot of... Collaboration is key. Yeah, collaboration is key, because you and I learn

through collaboration. All right, guys. So tonight we're going to be talking about the UFO, UAP sightings. And do we have, potentially, a definitive origination of where

these things are coming from? Is there something that we have recently learned, not even recently, but we are going to review a clip from another podcast, and we're going to talk about it. We're going to discuss it with you guys. but this clip is from Tom DeLong.

Tom DeLong is formerly Blink 182. He actually created a band called Angels and Airwaves. And Tom DeLong is no longer with Blink 182, but Tom DeLong essentially made it his life mission to try to prove the existence of UFO UAPs. And so his journey throughout this entire process has led him into deep waters, but also led him into something that a lot of people were like,

well, what if I knew the secrets of the universe? What if I could figure this out somehow by getting involved and getting in the right places? There's a lot of people to always think that. And I think Tom DeLong did it. And, you know, as far-fetched as it may sound, even from his interview, because me, listen to the interview, I'm like, man, that sounds crazy.

Like, who's going to let a singer into, like, these places? But he's been famous for a long time. and, you know, he had connections to kind of get him into these places. And look, man, I'm not famous, but, you know, but I can get into some places. You can. Because, you know, all it does is it takes reaching out to people a lot of times.

And when people are not willing to do that because they're uncomfortable, is when the uncomfortable people will reach out to get those people. And in other words, Chad will do that. Chad will reach out to things that are uncomfortable. role. Yeah, or situations that you just think is just out of leap or out of bounds. And, you know, the reality is it actually may surprise you where those times that you reach out even thinking in your mind, there's no way this is going to work.

It'll really surprise you. But in your mind it is because you're an optimist. Yeah. But you also have to have leverage, you know, and I think him being in Blink 1282 and all that stuff, he had leverage to be able to create these relationships like he did. but also, you know, it's like us. And I'll give you an example. You know, we have a travel guide.

We have a travel guide in the state of South Carolina. We are, respectively, I guess, the number one travel guide independently in the state, besides the state-run travel agency. And so what we have done over the past five or so years is Sherry and I have written articles. We've talked about things. We've visited towns and attractions and restaurants and whatever. We would write articles based on. our experiences and our just firsthand knowledge to where you guys could, not you guys, but people in South Carolina or people visit in South Carolina could read about these without having

to come here and then therefore be able to know where they want to go when they do come here. And so we did this with my marketing mind in, I guess, play as far as like, let's make sure these articles get the reach they deserve. Right. And so we've got articles that even Sherry has written. And I say Even Sherry because. Oh, not even Sherry. Like Sherry's articles are like number one.

No, but Sherry's had like articles based in South Carolina that they have gone like crazy. Well, they got millions of reads and millions of page views. We've got millions and millions and millions of page views on our travel guide. And for those, we want to check it out, it's shtraval guide.com. But yeah, so we've used that for our leverage to get into places that, you know, it made sense. I mean, like Panthers training camp and, you know, just, wherever we basically want in South Carolina we can essentially get into. I think Tom Long used his star power, his fame,

to be able to get into certain situations within the government. And so that's what we're going to talk about tonight. We're going to talk about, is this a definitive analysis of where the UFOs and UAPs are coming from? And guys, by the way, guys and girls, listen, if you've listened to our podcast to any amount time you're going to know that a lot of what he says and a lot of what we have talked about are correlate or well no no no no no no they don't cordial well some of what we've talked about inner twinkle what's no no but listen sure what i'm saying is is that no some of it intertwines we've talked about interdimensional things we've talked about stuff like that but um but i think we've always

kind of held the belief of these things are coming from other planets i think i mean no we have not. How have we not? Because I don't think anything in our planets, you know, in our like little not the Milky Way, but where the Milky Way galaxy is huge, but yeah. I'm just saying where our planets are, the nine planets, where we exist, our solar system. I don't think there's life here. No, I don't, I doubt it, but we don't also know that either. It's way past those planets. Yeah, but that has nothing to do with interdimensional, though. So interdimensional has nothing to do with any other. No, it doesn't. interdimensional could be somebody going traveling from this galaxy to that galaxy. But that's not what he's saying.

Okay. Which is why I try to get. I will listen. I really try to get Sherry to listen this and comprehend this earlier, but she refused. Well, I am a little ADD, so sorry. But I don't think that's what he's saying. And maybe we could take, and listen, not saying that that's not possible, what you're saying. And maybe we connect this with what we've kind of thought and tried to get across the whole time.

I don't believe that aliens from other planets have not visited us. I just don't believe that. So, you know, whatever. Now, how they visited us is the question. And is that interdimensional or is they physically? Wait a minute. Clarify. You think, where do you think aliens come from that are visiting us?

Well, I think they have found and been able to harness technology from other planets. Other planets where? Probably in our own galaxy. The Milky Way galaxy. We have to understand we're a speck of salt in our own galaxy, much less galaxies outside of us. And not to mention, I think scientists, you know, they were doing this analysis on our galaxy,

not that long ago. And they established that there's probably 47,000 planets in our own galaxy, our Milky Way galaxy, that probably have intelligent life. That's 47,000 in our own galaxy. Exactly. And we've got billions of galaxies in this universe, if not trillions and quadrillions and all that. You can go, when you go to the beach and you look in the summer night or even a winter night and you look up at the sky, you actually can see like the outer bounds, the outer bounds of the galaxy, like the smoky looking stuff with all the stars.

Well, you're talking about the Milky Way. Yeah. Yeah. But you can see, but every star probably has planets around it. Well, yeah, I mean, some. Yeah, I mean, I probably. But yeah, but we also have to understand that what we're seeing as far. far as the Milky Way galaxy is a, no, no.

It's a speck. I mean, it's a speck to the universe, but it's huge to us. No, but listen, even when you're looking up in the night sky, you're seeing a small, little tiny speck of what the Milky Way galaxy is. Right. We're not even seeing, it's not like you're looking in the sky and you're seeing the Milky Way galaxy. No, you're seeing a speck of a part of the Milky Way galaxy.

But you can actually see the asteroid belt when you look, when you're at the beach out in the open. You can see that. Yeah. So anyways, we're going to talk about you know, what is this? Are the aliens? You asked me, and that's what I was trying to respond to, are these aliens from another

planet? I've always kind of held the belief of that, but I've also not, I've also reserved the opinion as far as, is this possibly interdimensional type things? I mean, we've talked about DMT on this podcast many times. We've talked about, you know, all that stuff. We've talked about dreams. We've talked about

so many different things. We've talked about the paranormal. And so anyways, let's play. This is Tom DeLong. He was on the Stevo podcast. I want to play this. It's 15 minutes. I don't know that we necessarily have to play the whole 15 minutes. But it's important for you to hear, especially towards the end is when it's really important. Yeah. So we'll just start it here. We'll just start somewhere here. I'll kind of fast forward as we we need to, but I want to get the point across. It's the best way to do is just to play his, so you know, so here it is. I was, whoopsie,

you know, so what happened then was the, you know, Hillary's been turning for presidency against, I guess it was against Trump. And John Podesta was her campaign manager. At the time, he was also senior advisor to Obama.

So I was holding conversations with Podesta to get to Obama, and I had two multistocer. generals from Space Command and the head of Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works, that Skunk Works built Area 51, their elite engineering division. I had them all on this like fucking emails,

and we're setting up these conference calls and stuff. Well, Hillary Clinton's campaign got hacked by the Russians, WikiLeaks, and it outed all this shit about Podesta and her, and what happened with that was when all these news journalists were pouring through WikiLeaks to see what spilled from Hillary's campaign,

they found these fucking emails with me and Podesta talking to these generals about UFOs. So Wall Street Journal threw that onto the Wall Street Journal. And then I was like, fuck, I'm fucked. And I'm like out there like fucking erasing computers and doing all this different. I didn't know what to do. And at that time, all these other government people that came out. Let me ask you, why would that be a problem for you if, I mean, there's nothing wrong

with exchanging emails with, that wasn't the issue. the more of the issue was like the more of the issue like their insecurity just all these guys are holding the secrets of the universe and it's a much

what would happen in conversations is I just knew things so I would say it they might not say something back but I'm kind of thinking that any of those conversations should not be fucking poured over by anybody that wants to just come in and just like

make a name for themselves at the bureau so I'm just like tripping like fuck and then i can see that yeah so what happened though is it gave me all this of credibility because then all of a sudden all these other people in the government knew that i was like hanging around with some big boys so they all came out and said there's a better way to do what you're doing and then that's when my company was a lot just me it became something bigger and so the company came out to the public founded by myself one of the heads of the CIA and the head physicist for the UFO program. And then I hired the program director, the guy that ran the UFO

program, and then I brought on another like eight people from the DOD and the CIA. So they're all part of my company. And the first thing we did was take those videos to the New York Times and out the program. And then we went and spent two years briefing all the committees in the Senate and Congress and the director, the office of the director of national intelligence. So now you're seeing hearings. The DOD admitted UFO's real. The Navy admit that's all us. The hearings at Congress and the UAP task force. That's all that. We started all of that.

And it all started with me just being a little punk rock kid, just going, I'm going to fucking do this, not really knowing what I was playing with, you know? So, I mean, it's super impressive, and I love how well you communicate to. Your ability to tell stories is really... Well, thank you. He's a highly evolved being.

I'm just a very spiritual dude, Matt. I love it. Can you help us understand what, What's the significance of UFOs? They're not coming from, well, I should say this way. The significance of UFOs is multiple parts, but number one, it's not what you think it is. It's not coming from other planets. The evidence doesn't suggest that.

Interdimensional. Yes. And the reason is because time is parallel. It's not linear. It's not like we start here and go forward in time. Time is side by side, which means everything in the past and the, the future is existing in this moment but within different frequencies. So a civilization that's at the end of their technological cycle could build a submarine that

changes its voltage and materializes in that same location, just into our timeline. And then fucking, it's crazy. That was well articulated. I like that. Have you ever had any glitches in the Matrix where, like, like, yes. Time sped up for you or, like, I've had that a couple times. Weird things. So, um.

I felt this, yeah, yeah. But when I was when I got more into this, so there's a consciousness aspect to this. Like, you have to think of, like, consciousness is like, it's like the mind of God, you know. It's not a dude in a toga with a crown of thorns making Jupiter. You know, it's like everything you see is one band of frequencies. The highest frequency is light, unified mind. The lowest frequency would be blackness, absence, absence of love, absence of whatever. And physical matters, somewhere.

right in the middle, right? So you have the ability to tune up higher or tune down lower and behavior and all these things and time and it all fucking comes together. But what it means also is that your brain is what's called a transducer. You're an antenna. Consciousness. Yeah, it's what I was saying to Duncan Trussell. Yeah, Duncan Trussell. So you create matter. And when you think something, it creates it. And you are not, you're not reactionary to your environment. You're actually proactive and you just don't know it. So it really matters what you choose to see and feel because that's literally what's being created for you.

And people don't know this shit. So when you're like really into some crazy shit, the universe will start creating things and we just think it's paranormal. Like for example, at UCLA, they were studying poltergeist events and they found out that you can see a book move on the shelf and it scares you. But if you see a book move on the shelf and it scares the shit out of you, that book will then fly off the shelf and try and hit you. So the more scared you get, the more shit starts happening.

And they didn't know why. Well, the reason is, is you're a transducer of your environment. You're an antenna plugging into all these frequencies. And once you go, oh, that book is moving, it'll move. You know, so it's fucking crazy. It's like our universe, it's just not what we think it is. And the whole thing with UFOs is that they're fucking around with us because of that, you know? Is it not,

like, we're not, think of UFO as like a vehicle right, which aliens are going to travel in. Yeah. So should we not,

should we not be using the term aliens? Yeah, alien is hard only because it's like, that, that makes us think it's coming from Mars or some shit, or a different planet. These are more like entities. These are more, like, a lot of them are, um,

there's a lot, there's like clones. that are like just fucking, like, you think we made Dolly the sheep, and we think that we're like, you think that's all we've done? In the 60s, we cloned a sheep. We might be a little bit more advanced than that. So what is something else that's super advanced doing AI and creating things that can fly around and tamper?

Well, are they little program bots? Well, where's like the mainframe? Well, maybe the ship is alive in a mainframe, biological organism, but it's metal and whatever, but there's an intelligence to it because it's so advanced. So the theory that they started showing up at the time we did nuclear weapons. They're not here to protect us.

Because that would be like, not interdimensional. That'd be from like outer space. No, not interdimensional. Because the one thing we found out is that the EMP wave from a nuclear blast kind of travels through multiple dimensions. So it's like that, that energy is fucking up whatever's in that location. And maybe those people are like, what the fuck was that?

Let's materialize into that other timeline and get those motherfuckers to stop. But the reality is, too, is UFOs have been around forever. Like you're talking biblical, you're talking religions, you're talking the pyramids. The pyramids, you're talking the star of Bethlehem is not a star. The sun is big. The star Bethlehem is like a little ball of light that three dudes on horses followed for days and it hovered over a manger. So think about that. What is that? Ezekiel's wheels, you know, Fatima and Portugal, all these religious events are always the same thing. And you've got to then go, well, what are they doing? What is happening from that? Well, we start cults. We go crazy. We create different religions. We have different belief systems.

we get really scared because they prophesies the end of the world. They tell you that if you do something wrong, you're going to go burn in hell for eternity. But if you listen to what that voice is in your head, that's God. So do that. And then someone hears a burning bush, and they go and start a religion. You know, it's like holograms and technologies and making people not be together, you know, making us think that there's a dude like Allah or Jesus that created the universe versus source intelligence.

This is like your bandwidth, your fiber optic cable just to light consciousness, which is like the one power that powers the atom, that permeates everything. And we're all from it. But as long as we think it's a dude, and that group over there thinks it's a different dude, we're going to hate each other.

And we don't really evolve. And we don't really grow spiritually, you know? I'm sure you've heard the story. I went down the rabbit hole with, you know, like, they brought people to Alpha Centauri till they're like 13 people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and... Is that true?

I mean, what is that different than, like, what's going on now? Like, are stories like that true? I don't buy those. I buy at all, but I do know some fucking crazy shit where, like, it makes you kind of wonder about the other stuff. So, for example, I was, I was, um, there's a document that leaked that described something coming from another planet, and then it hit like a meteor,

and then it all came down, and then we retrieved these bodies and the craft and whatever. So I knew of this document, and then I was in a meeting. I can't say with who and what it was all about. But I found out during that meeting that was misinformation, the part about the media and coming from another planet. And then they leaked the document. And the whole point was for us to keep thinking these are coming from planets and shit. Because it's a lot less scary, you know, to think, well, well, we're super far away. So it's hard for them to get here, you know.

But the reality is, is like, the misinformation placed in documents that are already leaked on purpose is to slowly inoculate us and to be okay with things over time. It's a lot easier to go. Well, they're not coming from other planets. They're coming from here. But you already knew about them, so it's not as scary. It's not too much thrown on you at once. But the absurdity that comes along with this stuff is insane. Like, in the sense of, like, dude, I've been told so many fucking stories.

there's like shit where things just show up and um and they look you know totally human and then you turn around and it's not even there but you're on a ship in the middle of the Atlantic and you're on an aircraft carrier and it's like there's a human standing there telling you to get the fuck out of the area and then you turn around and that's fucking humans not even there you know so you're kind of going well did we go to another planet like those things to what I would say is there is something like that happened but I would say 70% of what's in there is probably unsure. true or something. I think that there are things on other planets, but I think that what's really going on is like space time, they call it space time, is because if you light a flashlight, that light travels for infinity. So if you were just, like when we see a star, they always tell you you're seeing like, we're seeing what happened like 30,000 years ago because that light just got here. So we're essentially seeing the beginning. We're seeing the same star, but we're seeing a different point in time than where it's at, but we're looking at it. And that's the idea that I think in space, the way things stretch out with light is the way

everything exists all in one moment. So I don't know how much planet-to-planet fucking transportation is going on. I don't doubt it. But what I do know is the things that are materializing here are doing it with frequency and timelines and stuff. When you said the materialize in a different time, you know, time. Yeah. And describing the parallel.

timelines that was so digestible. Oh, that's good. I was able to really like, kind of get that. It's called Steve-O. All right. So that was Tom DeLong, formerly Blinkly, A2. And number one, I hear a lot of sniffing and coughing going on during this podcast. I think they're trying to get themselves interdimensional to understand it.

What? I just think they are. I think you're interdimensional right now. No, I'm not. No, so anyway, so let's break down, let's break down this video. No, what? No, he does that because he has a voice issue. No, I'm talking about the others.

I don't know, but anyways. No, him too, yeah. But whatever. So Tom DeLong, formerly Blink 1-82, apparently got in deep with certain government officials, Podesta, whoever. And they essentially led him to believe that these things were interdimensional rather than space craft from, yeah, planetary travel. Now, you know, as we know, I've watched a video.

You guys just heard it. You know, obviously I have some things that, you know, we should talk about on that. Is it possible? Let's just say, for example, that his account of what this is, and supposedly Tom DeLong has all of the information, information supposedly.

Yeah, but anyone's ever had. Well, no, he mentioned names, pedestrian, whoever, but then he talks about CIA guys and whoever. Right. You know, he supposedly has all this information, and he knows, I guess, you know, at one point in time, he was like, oh, I have the universe's secrets and all this. And I'm sure he knows way more than we do, probably.

Maybe. Because of, like we were talking before, you know, things can get you to places where you want to be if you have that background. But listen, regardless of that, you know, the government has lied about UFOs forever. And I agree with him. Why are they going to tell him a punk rock dude from, I don't give a damn, how famous you are? Like, why are they just going to give him all the information?

Knowing that he's going to take this information to a public, especially someone with a following. It makes no sense to me. Well, maybe that. He talks about, well, listen, he talks about the fact that. you know, it's not what we think it is. It's not interplanetary, you know, travel, and it's not this, and it's just this. It's interdimensional.

And then he goes into the whole concept of, like, people believe that there's a dude that created this, a Jesus or an Allah or whoever. God. But, you know, look, it's almost like he and that narrative is more so to disprove God rather than to prove how aliens existed or exist. Now, I'm not saying that aliens and UFOs don't exist through interdimensional whatever, right?

So I'm just giving you my devil's advocate here first, right? Yeah, and I already agree with you because I know where you're going, but yeah. So, yeah, the interdimensional thing, they just show up on an aircraft carrier. Now, obviously, I'm not going to say he's lying about this. Obviously, he, and I know, I know what Tom DeLong has been into as far as the UFO UAP thing for a few years now. You know, I know Jeremy Corbell, which is one of the biggest, you know, UFO UAP experts. I believe Jeremy Corbell at one point in time. I don't know if Jeremy has ever commented on Tom DeLong's stance on this.

I know that Jeremy Corbell and Bob Lazare and many other, or most other UFO, experts, or at least people that have studied this their entire lives, or for a lot of their lives, I know that they don't necessarily see UFO UAPs from this standpoint. And keep also in mind that he talks about being involved in the government and having people in the government and all this. But we also have to remember that Jeremy Corbell and Bob Lazare and many other experts, aka Lou Alizondo. Lou Alessando was over atyp,

which was the Pentagon's program for studying UFOs. And Lou Alessando himself has said before on national television that we do have proof that we have vehicles from other planets on this Earth. Now, it's just for me, it's hard for me to wrap my brain around that Tom DeLong from Blink 182 at punk rock band knows more. intelligence than Lou Alizondo, which was over the Pentagon program for A-Tip, right? I mean, that doesn't make sense to me why he would know more than Lou Alizando and why also this guy would be the one of the, not the only ones, but one of the

prominent ones has come out and say, well, this is interdimensional. Only this has nothing to do at all with aliens traveling from other planets. It has nothing to do with that. But to me, interdimensional could be aliens or others traveling from other planets. They could travel interdimensional, meaning it's the time. It's the time versus the whatever. But I don't think that's what they're meaning. I think their meaning is like interdimensional to them is you leave your physical body

to travel essentially consciously somehow through a time warp. as he says, which scientifically, yes, you can travel. If you look at time, time is not forward or backwards. Right. It's right there. It's what we always look at. It's parallel. Yeah.

So as time is to the left and right of us, it's always never ending. Right. So if his example of time is, well, the history is right beside us, and so is the future, rather than forward or backwards, you know, it makes more sense to where time travel would not be as hard because your, you're, your travel. traveling kind of parallel and those wavelengths, like if you look at wavelengths and radio signals and radio waves, they usually travel parallel rather than forward or backwards. Right.

So that would make sense on that, at least, concept. But now, how does this make sense with everything that we know and hear and think about in the world? Well, interdimensional is weird because it's like if we have all. all these things that, you know, travel at speeds that we don't even know of. Or past that. And they just disappear.

I mean, a lot of the pilots, a lot of the people, they just say they disappear. And listen, like a lot of people see, like, these things in the sky that are, like, tiny, like drones that don't even, they can't have a bing in there unless they're, like, three inches doll. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. But I really feel like he makes sense out of the whole picture, if that makes sense. you. Well, if you want to talk about paranormal, a ghost, even a big foot situation, any of that stuff, this makes more sense

than UFOs if you want to even think about connecting bigfoot's or paranormal, right? I mean, to me, an interdimensional cross thing. It's a cross, yeah, where you're able to travel from this point to this point interdimensional. Yeah, which is

and we don't, we, the reason why we have such a hard time with it is because we don't know how to do that. Yeah. Now he talks about like, you know, we're our brains are transmitters. We are basically almost like a cell phone tower or whatever. And there's some people that use more of their brains than others.

Like some people are more psychic. Some people are able to like do more things with their brains than others. And I think that has like the beginning of what we're trying to get at, I guess. It's what I'm saying. Well, I mean, yeah. Because our brains are transmitters to like basically our. souls in a way. Well, it's what he was saying, though, is like, he also was talking about is like we can,

um, we can materialize what happens around us. So, you know, if, if it's something that we want to achieve, we've always heard like putting out there in the universe and, and if you believe it and you speak it, it'll come into existence. And that's one of the things interdimensionally in a way that is, that is what it's talking about. Do you know what book that reminded me of? Yes. like it's a law of attraction.

When you think things or you put those vibes out there, you're putting those electronic. Yeah, you materialize it. Those wavelengths into that. Like, you know, I wanted to win the lottery last Friday. And I put my brain ways into that. You didn't put enough in there. You didn't put enough in there. But yeah, so materializing things and, you know, how you think about things and how you

dream about things or how you make sure, like if you want to do something bad enough, it'll happen, right? You're just got to make sure that you believe in it enough to where it's going to happen. So that's part of the interdimensional thing. The other thing I will say about the interdimensional thing is we go back to the drug DMT,

which is a naturally occurring drug, but it happens more in animals. It is a drug people can take. We've talked about this before. There's been people that have taken DMT. There's been people taking DMT at the same time in the same place and seen almost exactly the same things in their trips.

We've also, but most people that take DMT, see interdimensional what they call, uh, mage elves, as they call them, or interdimensional beings that know everything about them. They talk to them. They do all this stuff. Um, and that's a part of our brain that, that, you know, you can't get to unless you take that drug or whatever. Well, DMT is released from our pineal gland, which is our third eye, as I call.

Right. And dogs have a lot better sense of that. That's why we've talked about this before. That's why so many animals can sense things that we cannot. Because they release more DMT into their brain. Even though they're not as smart as us, they release more DMT, which gives them better senses. And maybe like I'm not as smart as you, but maybe I have more DMT release than you do. So even though I'm not as intelligent or smart, that shit's happening to me.

Like I feel more or see more. Like, I know it sounds weird, but I've actually like I have seen myself. outside of my body. Like, I swear to God I have. And I did not take DMT. Well, no, I mean, I think a lot of people have had experiences like that. But yeah, I mean, I know what you're saying. There's been people that have been in really crazy situations, whether it be dreamlike,

whether it be, you know, almost like the paralyzed sense of things. Yes. And you've been like that too. Paralyze where you cannot move, but you can see your body. Like, I have experienced those things. And I know it has to do something with my mind. It's not something It's you know

I used to think it was like this like wicked Entany or whatever it's called Or like spirit or whatever Against me But I almost feel like it's my mind Transporting If that makes sense Yeah or teleporting or something

Yeah I don't know That's all very possible I always go back to my dream that I had About the alien planet that I went to in my dream. And I went there quite a few times, but it's just so strange.

I don't know. It was like I was there, and that's the most realistic dream we've ever had. I mean, I've had dreams of, like, falling off ladders. And I used to have those dreams all the time. Yeah,

and you have that fear of fighting, that fear of falling. Falling, yeah. And that's probably why that dream comes up, because, I mean, I've been in situations where, you know, as a firefighter back in day, and, you know,

there were things that made me afraid of the ladder thing. But then there's, like, things like I'm running from people where I'm in, trouble, right? Or like, you know, and I'm trying to escape the cops or whoever. I get those quite often. And I even, I think internally inside of me when I dream, I know that it's a dream. Even though like, that's why I'm like, yeah, I'm running from cops. I don't know if it's a dream

or not. Well, I usually don't. But like this, like I said, the situation where I went to this alien planet, and it was like a blue starry night and, you know, I was floating. I don't know if it, like I said, I don't know if it was because of gravity was like way less there or whatever. the case was, but I was floating down and I couldn't control where I was landing exactly, but I floated down, went in between these houses, I was looking around. It was like a neighborhood of aliens. Yeah, I think you've told me this

one. Yeah, well, we've told the podcast this story before. And then I've had this dream recurring to where I would know a little bit more about this planet than I knew before. And I knew in my dream that I was somewhere. And even after I woke up, I'd remembered every single thing. I was

like I was there. It was like I had went there the day before yesterday. You know, and it was, you know how dreams a lot of times will escape you? You'll remember certain things. Yeah, and you won't remember. But you're like, oh, sometimes I'm like, okay, I'm dreaming, but I'm going to remember this when I wake up. And then you want to remember this. A lot of times you don't remember this.

And then you wake up and you don't. Yeah, you forget it. You're like, damn it, what was that? I need to write it down because it was so important. Yeah, and we'll remember certain little things about dreams that like certain scenes of a dream or whatever. But, like, there was some about this dream that I just remember everything. It was like I was there. It was like I had went there.

Now I had went there a couple months ago, right? Or a few months ago, whenever it was. But so the interdimensional thing. But I think that has, it's inner, like, collected with, like, your brain. Like he was talking about, you know, your brain has these sensory, like, um, receptors. Receptors or whatever. Like, I think it's all interconnected somehow. where it's from your brain to reality to not reality to you're here, you're there.

I don't know. It's just. Well, no, I mean, okay. So the thing about the Jesus or Allah or whatever, I mean, I'm just speaking in terms of religion, period. I'm not even talking in terms of just being a Christian and being Muslim, whatever. I'm talking about in terms of religion. You know, my thing that I don't agree with him on is like, oh, there are different religions cause fights or whatever. And maybe, look, maybe we don't know enough about religion to know why religions fight.

I know that even in biblical times, there were, there were. Well, obviously he didn't go to college, though. I'm trying to finish my sentence. Sorry. But no, so, but what I'm saying is, is that he is trying to say that religions cause hate. And religion is always, in some ways, caused wars. And I don't even know if religions cause that. It's just, that's just what's happened.

Mm-hmm. And a lot of atheists and people that don't believe in God whatsoever have always went back to the Bible and said, oh, look at all the bloodshed in the Bible and look at all this stuff that's happened in the Bible because of the Bible. And they say the same thing in a lot of different religions. But the reality is that, you know, in life, regardless, you have to fight for what is truly the most important, which is either your religion and your rights and your well-being. I mean, without if you were just a sitting duck, and you never fought for anything, you would be demolished by the overlords, by the people that

have the most power. We see a world now that has more guns and more ammunition and more everything than we've ever had. The United States, for example, has tons of guns, has all this. But yet their government, our government, is doing everything they can to take more and more rights away from the people. You know, just with this Congress bill that just passed about banning assault weapons. We're going to see what happens with that throughout the process. But they want to talk to take the they want to take as much power away from you as they can so when I hear people especially say well the Bible look at all the murder to happen here look at all the bloodshed and it's like well did you expect these bloodsheds in many cases like you know I think that's I think that's also a problem

is like over time the society has gotten a lot softer but yet the elites and the powerful have gotten more powerful and so what he's what really has happened is the elites and the powerful has gotten smarter at being able to make you softer in order for the, they're not to be bloodshed on their behalf and so on and so forth, right? But it's just, it's just mind control that they use it through technology now, media and all this stuff. But back then, they didn't have that. So if you did some shit against the people or a certain group or whatever the case was, you were up, you were in for a fight because it was either fighting or dying in their time. And I'm just thinking in biblical times, though, you know, I hate to go back to this, but obviously the, you're, you

Bible says we did wrong in the beginning by eating the wrong fruit from the tree. And at that time, God gave us our free will to believe in what we wanted to believe in and do what we wanted to do. Of course, he wants us to believe in him, but he's not going to make us believe in him. He's going to direct us to believe in him, but we don't have to because we have free will. And then this free will thing is separated people to the point where there are bloody wars, but God lets it happen because he knows it has to happen in order to progress who we are as people. But even given that, too, it's like, you know, talking about God and getting a little bit back on topic because I got way off topic. I'm back on topic.

But no, so getting back to the God thing. Well, you know, if Tom DeLong set with a bunch of government officials, which sounds mostly Democrat, Hillary Clinton's Canada, campaign person. He talked about Obama. But let's not even say to that. No. No, we have to because it's very important. Democrats in this country do not believe primarily in God. Many of them don't.

They want to go against God and disprove God. I agree that with that. But my point is that you're telling me to believe you sitting down with a bunch of politicians essentially and probably a lot of corrupt people that this has nothing to do with aliens

and other life on other planets. This is And then furthermore, you want to tell me how this makes no sense about God and all this. This is all interdimensional. Well, first of all of his last statements was, oh, God and all that. I mean, that's ridiculous people didn't think that. I mean. That dude. But yet our energy is what we came from.

Like, that makes no sense. It's like we're computers. Yes. But listen, regardless of whatever you want to say, interdimensional, whatever the case is, everybody's always made the argument against God, but yet God, the reason they've made that argument is because, well, we can't see him or we don't have proof of it. Oh, we can't see him physically. Well, no, we can't see interdimensional beings physically, but somehow you want to believe that the government told you that these things exist, and so we should believe it. Well, some of us do see things in the world that we should not see.

But how is that not God? It could be God. What are you talking about? I'm just saying that we shouldn't see. I'm just saying some people see things that most people don't see. Like they might see entities or spirits or black, you know, black shadows or aliens or alien crafts in the sky. People see these kind of things. But I don't think, I mean, for example, I don't think the people that see alien crafts or UFOs in the sky is not because you have some kind of wavelength thing. I mean, you know, fighter pilots and a whole squadron of fighter pilots didn't see that because they have a wavelength. Exactly. had technology. Everybody can see that.

They had technology. Are you looking and are you like, are you looking in the right direction at that time? But listen, even further, you know, you, to me, this is just my opinion and I'm just thinking a little bit outside of the box here. You know, if you want to prove that the aliens and UFOs are from another dimension, which is dimensional, you know, and Tom DeLong, I would love to have him on the podcast actually to debate this because. if you say in one sentence he says, well, this is more of a conscious thing. So they can replicate

and then just come into a physical form, you know, on an aircraft carrier in the middle of nowhere. Okay, fine. But, I mean, but you also can't sit there and say that God don't exist,

and that makes no sense. But also, listen, listen, let me finish. Okay. But with technology, and technology, the way we have it,

I just, I personally don't believe you've got to match technology with technology. If you have F-18 fighter jets that have this on their fleer camera systems. Right. Okay. Now, hear me out before you say anything. I am.

If you have technology on your fleer camera systems on your F-A-18 Hornets, which is the, I mean, it's not the greatest technology we have, but it's pretty advanced as far as what we've been able to come up with. F-18s are great. Our camera systems are good on them. you know but they're not interdimensional camera systems so what i'm saying is is that i where i have a hard time putting two and two together here and i'm just thinking reality and i don't think i'm closed mind in saying this if you're going to go interdimensional right i i think that would be

hard at least in my opinion to materialize into a physical world being, meaning that I don't think that our F-18s would be able to see interdimensional crossings of things on their camera system and also physically see those things. I don't think that, I just, I'm not a scientist, but I also don't think. I think what the F-18s and the fighter pilots saw were physical things that came from another planet. I do not think it was interdimensional. Now, are there interdimensional things?

Yes. Can aliens maybe communicate and do things interdementially, possibly? but I do still think those are physical things. I don't think they're coming from another wavelength on left or right side. I disagree completely. Well, you got to talk into Mike. Well, I disagree completely because I do think, I think that your mind is being close-minded.

You're thinking about the technology that you know. You're not thinking about the technology that is out there that you don't know. No, I am. No, you're not. I am. Because if that were the case, then, you know, people could, interdimensionally go back and forth easily, like back the, just think about back the future.

You know, they designed this car to go in the future. I'm just making a point of, like, that would say that our camera system, I mean, maybe I'm wrong here. I'm just saying that would say our camera systems are more advanced than they are by being able to pick up interdimensional crafts that are not even technically physical.

No, but it's the same thing. If you're in a room and you feel like a spirit or something in your room. That could be interdimensional. Okay, and you're not going to see that on an F-18 camera. Yeah, and you're not going to, but you might see it on your phone camera if you take a picture. That's probably, I don't know if I believe that either. I don't know.

But I could be wrong about those. We could be right or wrong. I don't know. I have two pictures of orbs, of orbs. Okay. And I've seen them on my camera. Don't tell me that's not interdimensional. It's got to be something that we don't have technology to do.

Okay, let me bag that mic off a little bit. I'm just saying that it's possible that we, you know, we're very young, young, young. Yeah, we are. We're very young. But listen, listen, there's going to be. There's got to be other places that are millions of years smarter than us. Of course so. But what I'm telling you is that I don't think just because you're millions of years more advanced than us, I'm not saying you can't do interdimensional.

You don't think they could be like Star Trek? No, I'm just saying, listen, and I could be wrong, but people are going to take both sides of this story, like what you're saying and what I'm saying. They're going to understand both sides, I believe. But what I'm saying is that I just don't believe, if you want to, if you want me to fathom up the most, listen, you need to let me finish.

Okay, sorry. If you need to let me fathom up even, trust me, I thought crazy. I've tried to think way outside the box many times, and we've done it many times this podcast. All I'm saying is, is that it's one thing to be interdimensional through consciousness and be able to screw with people in certain ways. It's just, it would be harder for, listen, here's my best point.

But you're saying it's matter. The difference is what you're seeing is matter. You're seeing the actual matter in this consciousness. Listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it's one thing to see a physical spaceship that can travel at speed of light matter based on gravity field. from another planet, that alone is probably thousands, if not millions of years more advanced than we are. Right.

But then to say that you have something even more, because in my opinion, that would be more advanced than a alien civilization that has been thousands or millions of years more advanced than we are that has found a way with technology and with elements. whatever they're given to be able to use their spacecraft to manipulate a gravity field around the craft because that's all still kind of physical things in order to travel the speed of light that's at least thousands or million years advanced than we are. So then if you're going to tell me

that we have interdimensional beings which would have to be, in my opinion, millions of years more advanced than they are than even aliens we're talking about to where they can not only be in the air like a ghost and you don't see them, but they can also just materialize into a spacecraft

and then disappear and do all this crazy shit and then come from the history, or come from history, or sorry, the past or the future. 20 days of, I mean, then you're talking about more advanced. I'm just thinking about reality from what we know. Okay, well, just take this as reality. How many shows do you see about ghosts?

Well, there's a million and there's a lot of them there are BS. No, but how many shows? shows do you see? There's a lot of people and they're not going to do shows about ghosts if there's not something there that they want to explore. I'm not saying there's not some type of paranormal situation. So I'm just saying that could be an

interdimensional thing. But there could be both. And so that's what I'm saying. There could absolutely 100% be both things. And look, I'm not saying there's not interdimensional beings. I want to make that clear. Well, what are you saying that? I'm just saying that I don't think that's responsible for our UFO, UA

P sightings. I do. I don't at all. I don't at all. I don't really know if there could be actually planets on in our solar system. They're not in our solar system. They don't have to be in our solar system. Or into our Milky Way galaxy.

Oh, no. There's 47,000 according to scientists. Yeah, but it's just hard. Well, I don't know. So you're telling me that's harder to believe that interdimensional. No, it's not. It's not. Because listen.

Because like us, we don't even think we've traveled to the moon. Well, listen, what Tom DeLong said is, These are not even beings from other planets. These are beings of us in the future or the past. Yeah. And that makes way less sense to me than anything that UFOs or UFOs. But when you think about time and when you're looking at a star, Chad. I get that.

But I'm talking about... It's 30 million years ago. Okay, I get it. Like time, the way we know reality of time does not exist in space. I know that. I know that. But regardless of that, I mean, if, you know, number one, if it is us, right, in the future,

well, that's called, it's not ancient aliens, but it's, it's our future. It's Michael J. Fox. No, but no, it's, is our advanced selves. Yeah, coming back to our time. Kind of like Michael J. Fox did in back to the future. Yes. Honestly. But, so, okay, with that being said, though, I mean,

We can't, if we want to say that ourselves, like we're giving ourselves a hell of a lot of credit. Listen, to believe this. Yeah, because we are a younger planet. Especially if we're not going to say the other planets, which according to science is like 47,000 of them in our Milky Way at least. Listen, let me finish. If we're going to say that 47,000 planets in our Milky Way, which many of those, they probably say, are millions of years older than us. But it's not just ourselves. I know.

There's other things coming to visit us. Yes. And they're doing it interdimensional. Sherry. Let's not talk at the same time because people hate that. Oh, I'm sorry, guys. I'm so sorry. No, I mean, it's not just you or me.

I'm just saying let's not talk at the same time. Sorry. Go ahead. What I'm telling you is that we, it's one of the two, and it could be both. But I just feel like we're giving ourselves a lot of credit to say that we're millions of years or thousands of years more advanced and we're coming back. from the future. I mean, it just, to me, just in my, it just makes less sense to me than alien civilizations, which there's like, if you just think about the universe, it's obvious that we have,

I mean, if scientists, which don't believe a lot of scientists anymore, but what I'm saying is these scientists that study space and time and all these things, and they say, hey, we probably have looking at everything that we have information on in our own galaxy. see 47,000 intelligent life planets out there, possible, at least. And yet you're telling me, though,

that this is actually not any of those 47,000 planets that's probably visiting us, and it just so happens to be ourselves from cross. It doesn't, that makes way less sense to me than that. And it's the same way that he's going

to try to disprove God and Jesus, and then also make you think that our energy is what created it? I mean, come on. No, I don't believe that either, but I'm just, I'm thinking about not what he's saying. I definitely feel like we have a God of universe and the God created us.

I definitely feel like we have a God and I'm always going to believe in God. Look, I'm not saying that you're wrong. But I'm going to say this too, Chad. Think about back to the times where they didn't have written language, but they had picture graphs. Yes. pictograms or

Yeah. What were there pictographs of? Physical UFOs. Yes. Not interdimensional beings. Okay. So what if it was

the people of the future you've been visiting them? Well, they're not from our future. So how far in the future are they? Yeah. It was somebody visiting them because they don't just come up with these pictures out of nowhere.

Yeah, I get it. But we have to remember that Did they just make Get it up? No. But we have to remember that's not proven interdimensional. That, if anything, is proven aliens from other planets. Because aliens from other planets, there are planets there are millions of years older than us.

Yeah, but what's saying that an alien from a planet can't not be interdimensional? I mean, maybe they could be. Why couldn't maybe? But I think, I mean, look, I'm not saying interdimensional is not a thing. I'm just saying that I don't necessarily agree with the fact. that what we are seeing and experiencing is ourselves in any wavelength. But I'm just going to tell you back to the dream thing, I think that I experience interdimensional dreams.

When I'm having a dream and I'm outside of my body and I'm seeing in or whatever, I feel like it's interdimensional. Well, I think everybody feels like their dreams are interdimensional at some point. Well, do you not think that your brain goes somewhere else besides right here? Yeah, but that doesn't mean that's the cause of aliens. I guess that's my point. Like, look, I'm not saying the interdimensional things are not real. You're missing my point here, Sherry.

Okay. My point is that I believe, and I don't know if I'm right, okay? I'm just giving my opinion, and you're giving your opinion. But my opinion is these crafts and these things we're seeing, it's a lot more likely these things from other planets. And just, if you put the stats and the, what is it called, The probability, that's what it's called. The probability factor, if you put probability factor and you look at interdimensional beings versus aliens from other planets, the probability factor of aliens from other planets is probably 90% versus 10.

Not necessarily because you have to think about the van. What's it? The van ultra belt. You think aliens are going to have a problem with the Van Allen radiation belt? Well, I was saying we have their own gravity field. We have a problem with it. Oh, no, we supposedly went to the moon. Yeah, but we have a problem with that.

Well, aliens are not going to have a problem with that. I mean, if they can go light speed through space and you think there's not other radiation belts they've got to get through. And look, by the way, if you create your own gravity field around your craft, then you don't have to worry about radiation anyway. Because it's not a part of your system. Not a part of your whole thing. Oh, it probably makes you loop faster getting to that part. My point is I'm going to, if I was fact checking, if I was a fact check, because by the way, you know, I don't know if you guys know, but Facebook, admitted their fact checkers are opinions.

They literally admitted that. But whatever. If I was fact checking this, I'm going to say Tom Long's wrong. I'm going to say that his account of aliens and UFOs are completely wrong. And if he is getting, if he is getting this information from the government, then they're lying to him. Well, to me, my opinion is I feel like it could be both. Well, it could be. We could have interdimensional things.

That could explain paranormal. They could explain a lot of stuff. Yeah. Could even explain Bigfoot. But I definitely have seen all the above. I've not seen Bigfoot foot. But I have seen weird things in the sky that should not be there. And I've also experienced paranormal activity, like constantly.

Yeah. My thing, too, is we talk about these physical things. We see these things on camera. We see the lights. We see all this stuff, right? And one of the things Bob Lazar, and we've talked about another podcast, talked about, like, why spacecraft would make lights, right? And it's from the friction versus gravity fields.

Yeah, from the gravity. Which is a physical thing, right? So interdimensional wouldn't be interacting with any gases or anything, because that would be a... Why not, though? Because that was strictly a radio signal. It's the same thing as in our brain. It is a signal trans...

It's the same reason Wi-Fi doesn't make a freaking line. So you're saying like interdimensional is when a person's brain goes from one dimension to another? Yeah, but somehow... Like, I don't understand that. Well, you have to understand interdimensional before you get on the bandwagon of it. Because I don't even understand interdimensional.

But what I'm telling you is interdimensional is you are in another realm of a frequency, which has to mean your brain or your consciousness. Like that matrix. Yeah, but it has to mean consciousness. And then if you can somehow... So you're consciously there, but you're not physically there? Is that what you're saying?

According to him, you are physically there. And that makes less sense. That makes more sense to me. Listen, guys, by the way, I want you to message us on Facebook and tell us what makes more sense to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but listen to me, interdimensional dimensions is something that you got to think of as a thought, right? That is a term of a dimension. A dream, in my opinion, would be an interdimensional thing. Right.

DMT being taken and what it releases in your brain to take you to some other type of consciousness is an interdimensional thing. It's all a thought, a feeling, and energy. So then you're saying, so he's saying that these things are just replicating a body on an aircraft carrier all of a sudden and then just disappearing out of a body. I mean, it just, I'm not saying it's not true. But what I'm saying is, is that aliens come from other planets that are far more advanced than us. is a lot more believable than this. It's like he's trying to introduce something that makes less sense in my mind.

But like he was saying, maybe they're trying to introduce things slowly so it doesn't freak out people. No, I think they're trying, no, I think they're trying not to freak out people by making it non-believable. It's almost reversed to what he said.

Yeah. Because all I know is I have seen things in the sky. I think people would freak out about other creatures. And I have researched things in the sky. And there are some things that are, the size of drones and there's some things that are like you know 20 feet long in the sky but if it's interdimensional why would they have to interact with our atmosphere at all because i mean you know interdimensional in my opinion would be like a ghost like why would they have lights on a craft being interdimensional

i mean i don't know i guess i mean i guess if they warp through some kind of time thing but i'm thinking like star track kind of warping is what i'm thinking to me it just makes less sense and i'm probably wrong. So if you think about Star Trek interdimensional, they go on their little pad and they're like, okay, push the button and they disappear and they appear somewhere else. That to me is interdimensional.

Yeah, I get it. And maybe that's the way their spaceships appear and disappear so fast. Like, because you can see UFOs going in the sky and going all kinds of crazy places and then all of a sudden they disappear. because they warp out of that dimension.

No, I mean, it's all true. It's all very true. I just don't know what the... I don't know. I don't know what it possibly could be. I mean, look, interdimensional is, in my opinion, is like, I guess I just don't think that we're going to see things in it.

And for example, take the example of the UFO that went into the ocean. Just think about this for a minute. and also all the accounts of UFOs over the ocean. But specifically, the battleship that has the video, and I believe that was a FLIR video from their battleship as well, this craft was just moving at a, you know, I don't know, like I think they said like 50 miles an hour or something like that.

That just goes into, you know, it was 50 miles an hour, it was kind of going down, went into the ocean, disappeared, right? But if it was interdimensional, why would they even have to go in? Oh, and they saw a splash. It just... Yeah, I don't get the splash part. Well, I mean, because it's physical. It's a physical thing.

And a splash was probably because of the... You know, it was probably because of the gravity field that, you know, splash is going to make a wave. Yeah, I guess because they have a gravity field. I don't know. I don't know. Like, I'm not saying I'm right and I know everything. All I'm saying is, is just I'm giving my opinion.

Maybe it's both. Maybe there's both. I mean, yeah, I do think there's both. both. And I think we do have interdimensional things. And is that from other planets? Is that from just the spirit world in general? Other universes? Is it from heaven? Is it from hell? Well, I think the universe is a whole in the spiritual world.

And the interdimensional thing, it's just weird, man. The more I've thought about it, it's like, I don't know. I mean, yes. Because you talk about people talking to people that are dead all the time. Or people experiencing going to heaven. That could be interdimensional. Or going to heaven and coming back to heaven like they died and came back to heaven.

Things like that, to me, are interdimensional. Yeah, look, I'm not saying that we don't have interdimensional UFOs, but I just, I think there's a lot of things that are not explained that people might think other people are crazy for based on interdimensional stuff. Is that what we're seeing with the UFO and UFOs phenomenon? I don't think so. I mean, you may think so. I don't.

Well, I just want to know how many people that are listening right now. have seen something in the sky that is unusual or should not been in the sky. I can guarantee you there's probably one out of three of us that have seen something weird in the sky that shouldn't be there. Yeah, and here's the poll for tonight, and you need to reach out to us on Facebook, on our Facebook Investing Earth podcast. Reach out to us. You can send us a message. It's probably the easiest way, or you can comment on this post, or where we posted that we're doing this podcast. let us know what your thoughts are

because I'm not saying I'm right I'm not saying Sherry's right we don't know but let me know what your deepest thoughts are like if you just had to

really think outside the box do you think that everything we're experienced in the UFO UIP thing even given Tom DeLong's account of this and him meeting with people and so on and so forth

do you believe that what we are seeing is interdimensional or do you believe this is a physical craft and aliens from other planets I want to know

we want to know your opinions. Because, you know, as you can hear, we're on different sides of the defense. I think I'm interdimensional. Okay. More so. Well, I... And you're more physical. I'm more physical, yeah.

Yeah. I'm more physical. For sure. I'm going to go with physical. And I'm not saying the interdimensional things don't exist here. I believe we can have both. I believe we can have both ourselves in the future coming back and screwing with us. But I don't think that what...

we're seeing and what we've experienced for years is that. I believe it is. It might not necessarily be ourselves. It might be other beings from other places. Could be. I don't know. You're right. Because, you know, people.

That's a whole other subject. You know, you get on these Facebook groups about people that have been abducted or whatever. There's like a whole cliff note or, um. Oh, and speaking of that. Or glossary of different beings that you've been abducted by. Like there's the manate. There's the big eye guys Not manatees.

I don't know the names of them. The manatees are the big ass things in Florida. But they say it's like that. No, not the manatees. The reason I'm saying manatees is because, you know, one of the companies I do marketing for it. Like, we have manatee tours. And they're big ass seals of the ocean.

No, but listen, you're talking about not manatees. The damn prey and manate. The manuses. Yeah. And then the big eye aliens. And then these, oh, there's like some bug, the grays. And then some kind of bug aliens.

or whatever. Well, that's the man. Like, they are like, manitists. People have already put them in categories of experiences they've had with these people or these things. Would you think it would be more likely to be abducted by a physical alien or an interdimensional alien? Because I don't know because, you know, these people that have been abducted, they have no sense of time or anything. I know, but that doesn't mean that they're, you know, I don't know.

I think they've probably seen the crafts or whatever and knew they're going to the craft. Well, they knew they were in a room. A lot of them described a spaceship thing. And it's like wet, like live shit in the craft. And you also have to think of, you know, a guy story. God of money. I cannot think of his damn name. Something in the sky or whatever.

Walton. Yeah. Yeah, Mr. Walton's story. Fire in the Sky movie was based off of us. Well, even Betty and whatever. I mean, they've all been probed by like. awful things. No white.

But, you know, after, not Betty White, but after I've, like, read all our, you know, listened to all those things, I don't really want to be probed by any of these things. Well, no, of course you don't. Most of them are not nice, is what I hear. Well, I think, well, they all, most of these people live, at least for people, and unless the people to disappear. They go through these painful experiments. But listen, so I guess my point is, though, is something they all, many of them have

explained as spaceships. or even the Walton story, Travis Walton, where he was with five other guys or four other guys. And two of the guys didn't even like him. And they said they saw a spacecraft spaceship come down and freaking take him, basically. But that's not necessarily saying it's physical or interdimensional. Well, sure, it is physical, because they've seen it. But if you see it coming down, you don't even know if that's anywhere.

It could be. Who knows? I don't know. Guys, you let us know what your thoughts are on this. Like elaborate on this for us because we're both on different sides. But we could both be right. So we don't know. I think we're both right.

But guys, until next time, we love you. Yeah, we love you guys. Thank you for listening to another episode. Give us your input. Yeah. This has been another investigative podcast. Until next time, peace out. Peace out.