Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcast | Tucker Carlson Exposes Spiritual Entities | NWO Reverse Engineering

Episode Date: December 21, 2023

In this thought-provoking episode, we delve into the possible perils of a World Economic Forum-funded UFO reverse engineering program and its implications for humanity. We analyze Tucker Carlson's perspective on the potential spiritual dimensions of UFOs and UAPs, while also exploring the potential discoveries surrounding Non-Human Intelligence (NHI). Finally, we examine how a black-budget UFO reverse engineering program could fundamentally reshape our future. All of this and more on this episode of UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcast | Tucker Carlson Exposes Spiritual Entities | NWO Reverse Engineering

Hello light, and we will never let up. Never give me no fight. We didn't make it through the night, yeah. Don't they're crawling all night. But keep your head up, Charlie, we were made for this like, yeah. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we are going to be talking about UFOs, UAP's,

black budget reverse engineering programs, how far advanced are they? And what is the connection potentially with? the global elites and the world economic form and how dangerous could this actually be for humanity. Guys, welcome to the show. It is December the 20th, 2023. For those that do celebrate Christmas, we wish you guys a very, very merry Christmas. We hope you have an amazing time with your friends and family. And the name of this song, by the way, is Storm by Amaru. It is a Afro beats tune. Yes, it is not racist to say Afro beats. Or no, it's not racist to say Afro beats. But I love this music. chill, right? It is chill, but it's so funny when I listen to this, every time when he says,

lift your head up, Charlie, it reminds me of Charlie, ouch, Charlie, that really hurt. Yeah, the YouTube guy, yeah. The viral video. Yeah, yeah. The viral video. Yeah, yeah. The video, yeah. Friday was our last episode.

For those of you that are family and friends, we will explain that maybe somewhere in this episode. I don't know. But just understand, obviously, we've been going through a little bit of stuff for the past week or two. We've kind of talked about it before on the other podcasts about, you know, when you get in this realm,

when you get in this kind of environment of things that we talk about and constantly digging into stuff, it can sometimes affect you mentally, right? And so we've just been trying to figure out some things and we're going to do the best we can. And hopefully you guys enjoy this. episode. We are going to be talking about things that I'm very passionate about. We may get into a little bit of the spiritual side, non-human intelligence side of the UFO and UAP phenomenon or subject.

We're going to break down some clips from both Tucker Carlson, Dr. Stephen Greer and others. And I think there's a lot to learn from this, or at least a lot to ponder. And so that's what we want you guys to do. We have so many great episodes coming, guys. So we are sorry for our absence. we are definitely going to do better. We're going to be back stronger than ever very soon. Obviously, the holidays will be a little tough. We've got some traveling to do. But other than that, we're going to try to give you guys as many episodes closing out this year as possible.

Because we're like, what, I don't know, 10 something days? Right. You know how many days we're over now. Today's the 20th. Yeah. So 11 days until the new year. Yeah, 11 days to new year. 2024 is going to be a shit show.

That is for sure. and at the very least it's going to supply a lot of great content for us. I wish I could say that that wasn't the case. We've talked before about, you know, when we started this podcast five years ago, we started this podcast because, you know, I don't know, we started to realize how corrupt things really were in our government. And we were always looking in past tense, right? We were looking back on conspiracy theories that our government had been a part of

or other governments had been a part of or other, you know, clandestine, slagery. dark, deep state type entities. And, you know, we always had to look in the past. And then there was something that really started to shift probably a couple of years into our podcast to where, you know, all the conspiracies you possibly needed were right in front of you, right? And it's like every day you would wake up and it would be something new. And it's like, whoa, wait a minute. We're starting a conspiracy podcast, but it's all true.

So what do you call it when it's all true? Can't really be a conspiracy now. Exactly. You know, and I think it really builds. up when COVID came out. That's when we're really like learning how corrupt things are. Yeah. And I think that, you know,

I think a lot of people were, right? And I think you know, obviously everybody, there's been a lot of people that are fascinated with conspiracy theories. There's been a lot of people that like hearing those things. And, you know, just like the investigatory side of trying to figure out who did what and, you know, how it was done. And

it's just so weird because, like I said, the more we started, you know, as the years went on, from since we started this podcast in 2019. It was like we never, like it's hard for us to even get to conspiracies in the past because so many are happening right in front of us on a daily basis now. And it's like everything is just so out in the open now. They don't even care anymore to try to hide how corrupt and how evil they are. And I think part of the concept of this episode that we're going to talk about is something

that should worry us all because we've talked about what the New World Order and Claus Schwab in the World Economic Forum, what they want to do to humanity. We've talked about how they want to enslave humanity because that is what they want to do. They want you to live in 15-minute cities. They want you to own nothing. You know, don't be in control of your own food. They want you to eat crickets or insects. Right.

They want to decrease the population down to 500,000 people in the world. And how is that even possible? Well, how many people are in the world? Do we even know? Seven or eight billion somewhere on there, I think. And they want 500,000 people? Like, that's impossible. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty crazy because, you know, like the Georgia Guidestones, there was a big conspiracy with the Georgia Guidestones, which actually wasn't too far from where we live.

The Georgia Guidestones was something that I think was erected in 70s or 80s, if I'm not mistaken. And the Georgia Guidestones was it had all this carving on the Guidestones. And the Guidestones said basically that they, I think the main messenger was depopulation, right? And someone blew it up for whatever reason. and maybe it was someone that was just really saw what was coming. And I think a lot of people don't understand what is coming. And that is why we are on our mission to try our very best to get out as much information as we can. And so when you see the title UFO, UAP, New World Order, all of this stuff,

don't think we're just going to sit here and talk about just UFOs and little green men that come from other planets. This is much bigger. This is much deeper than we even can imagine. even just on the side of non-human intelligence and trying to figure out and understand if we do have beings, spiritual-type beings from other places, what does that mean? What could it mean?

And then how does that also play into the World Economic Forum, the New World Order, the elites and these black budget programs that the United States government, most of the United States government doesn't even know about. Now they're funding them, but they don't know what the hell is actually going on.

And that's so crazy because you wonder who in the heck is in control right now? You know, you normally think that your government is in control of your country and they're, you know, in control of your country to protect your people. Yeah. But I don't even think, like you said, our government has a clue what's going on. Yeah. Well, I will start with this, right? So just take, for example, a scenario.

Now, we know that what it seems like, right, is that the companies that are over the reverse engineering programs that are trying to reverse engineering programs that are trying to reverse. engineer downed spacecraft because I know some of you out there are going to be like, okay, that's crazy. I don't, first of all, don't even believe in spaceships that we've downed or any of this stuff. I want to tell you something. There's one thing over anything we've ever talked about. I can almost guarantee you that we absolutely have down the spacecraft in our possession.

I think we have, we have systems now in place to be able to down those spacecraft. And some of those systems actually were created based on what we have already were reverse engineered from other spacecraft or other UAPs, UFOs, whatever the hell you want to call them nowadays. And not only that, the scariest part is, is that these companies, I mean, there's been rumors and speculation and whistleblowers that say it's companies like skunkworks, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, all of the same companies that are actually in control primarily of the military industrial complex.

So if you know anything about the military industrial complex, well, why does that scare you? Well, the military industrial complex, they thrive and profit and depend on war and death. That is what they depend on. If there is not death and war and destruction somewhere in the world and favorably for many of these military industrial complex companies, that would be as many wars as they can possibly imagine. Well, I guess they're making a lot of money right now. Oh, they absolutely are. So then imagine these same piece of shit people because a lot of these evil people that are behind these companies.

that are in control of these programs. These are the guys that do not give a damn about a human life. They don't care whether you're a political side on this, a political side on that. They don't care whether you're Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Palestine, Gaza, whatever. They don't care. They just want to supply as many munitions as possible to kill as many people as possible because it kills two birds of one stone, which is number one. They are heavily paid.

And number two, it is depopulating the earth. Now, whatever we actually want to see or think about, the wars that are happening. happening is part of the depopulation program. It is literally part of that. COVID, I believe, was part of the depopulation program. All of these things that we're seeing nowadays, I believe the vaccine. Many people believe that as well. That's just an opinion.

You guys can have your own opinion on that. And then whatever pandemic's come up next, that's going to be part of it too, because I'm not thinking COVID's going to be the only one. No, absolutely. Something else is going to come out. Yeah. COVID will not be the last. And, you know, there's people speculating that there will be a fake alien invasion.

a false flag we talked a little bit about that with project bluebeam where we have an episode on that which i encourage you guys to go listen to about essentially how the the the global elites and that's who i really think would stage and if fake alien abas you want to be the global elites i don't think it would be a united states government or the you know or france or russia or china i think it would be the global elites that are a part of the world economic forum that sit in these meetings every year for hours and hours and hours. Most of those meetings, I think 80% of those meetings are behind closed doors in private. There used to also be meetings, and I'm not sure if these meetings still exist, called the Bilderberg Group.

And the Bilderberg Group was very similar to the World Economic Forum. And I'm not sure if those two coincide or if they have now basically just enveloped the Bilderberg group with the World Economic Forum. But nonetheless, the Bilderberg Group was always known to be a group of people. of elites that really were the ones that wanted to control the world through through money and power and influence and essentially bureaucracy. And so these guys would all sit in a roundtable meeting for hours and days at an end and figure out how they were going to manipulate and control governments and how were they going to push their agendas and what they wanted to accomplish, right?

And so take the Bilderberg group and then take it, put it on steroids, right? Which is the great, the Hulk, right, for example. It's like a David and Goliath. Bilderberg Group was doing a lot of great things for themselves to really try to figure out how they were going to control the world. But now you have the World Economic Forum. You have every major tech CEO that is a lot of times, there are a lot of piece of shit people to go to these meetings. And these people are the ones that sit now for days on end and figure out how they're going to manipulate control and infiltrate governments. They are doing it right now.

So we have mass immigration across all countries, except for the ones that refuse to have mass migration. And we're talking about countries like, for example, China, Russia, North Korea. There are countries. Hungary still, even though Hungary is being strong-armed and bullied by the European Union, including and also NATO for not being a part of that because Hungary has very strong borders. They want to control their democracy. They want to control their borders and their country. They want to be who they want to be.

They want to be their own sovereign country. They don't want to be a part of this whole thing that's going on. And I think the only difference of these meetings that are going on from the past to now is it's not just closed door anymore. It's in our face. They're telling us what they want to do to us right there in fine print all over social media everywhere. And it comes right out of their mouths during speeches telling us what they're going to do to us. Now, you're 100% right. And it goes kind of back to like predictive programming and things.

like this, right? They're doing it. They started this in COVID. You know, when COVID was going on, the pandemic, you started hearing leaders from around the world, such as Australia in the United States. Biden was a part of it. The Australian president there, or whatever you call the president there. I think it's president. You had Justin Trudeau and, and Francis Macron, and I think there were other ones that were saying, hey, we are driving and heading towards a new world order, aka a one world government is what they really mean. This is why we're headed more towards CBDCs, which is central bank digital currency.

There's a reason that the dollar and the pound and all these things are fallen and are being discredited because they want to implement a new system, a one world currency system. And so all of these things play in. And so said all that to say this. Tonight we're going to talk about UFOs, UAP's, black budget programs, and how these things are potentially connected to the global elites. I think this is very important.

I think it is very dangerous. And I think that is something that you guys need to ponder and try to understand of how this may all be connected. Because obviously you guys are going to know that a passion of mine and this podcast has always been finding out the truth behind the UFO and UFP phenomenon. I 100% believe in aliens and UFOs. I believe there is a non-human intelligence. I also believe in a God, right? And we've had a biblical series where we've been just trying to figure out what the hell we actually believe and trying to. to figure out what is the Bible actually saying?

How can we connect the Bible in historical text with what's going on today? And I do think there is a lot of correlation there. So when we talk about the Bible on this series that we're doing on this podcast, we're not talking about it as a preacher. We're not Joe or Joel Osteen. We're not, we're not, we're not, I don't know, Billy Graham for damn sure. We're definitely not Billy Graham.

Well, listen, I'm the girl that says Moses took his son up to be sacrificed on accident. Yeah, you meant Abraham. Yes, and it was Abraham. So we are not anyone like... Yeah, we're not biblical scholars. No. So I do apologize for that.

And thank you for catching that, by the way, guys. But no, we're definitely not biblical scholars, but we are just someone and we're just people that we're trying to connect and figure out things, I think just like anyone else is. And so we're glad to have you guys along. Before we get into the nitty gritty of this and start breaking out some stuff that I definitely want you guys to hear because you're going to need to hear this, I want to encourage you guys to go over to our Facebook. That's really where our core family is that really can we this. I mean, Sherry spent three or four hours the other night just talking back with

people and responding to people. I do that on a daily basis as much as I can. But nonetheless, we are definitely going to get back to everyone that messages us. We try to get back to everyone that comments. You guys see what we do on a daily basis in our everyday lives. And we really like seeing you guys messages. We love hearing your thoughts on things that we've talked about or there's actually been so many of you that have reached out and gave us an eye. idea and we've run with that we've done that um this podcast is a family uh the people that really follow us for and have been for five years um we're very happy and and blessed to have you guys and we're very happy with that um also follow us on x if you support free speech x is really

right now the only platform that is a bastion for free speech it is the only platform as far as social media goes um i mean besides if you think about like i don't know other stuff truth social or whatever, but talking about X. X is a platform that is really, they're being held to the grinder right now. Elon Musk is, he's being sued, he's being this, he's getting grants taken away, he's being, in any way they can come after right now.

They are. Yeah, they're targeting. The European Union wants to basically try to take X out of Europe. There's so many things going on, but also there is a revolution going on in X to where it is open sharing of information. When things happen, it is a massive course of conversation that's going on.

And listen, nothing goes unchecked there. If you say something wrong or you say something's bullshit or whatever the case is, trust me, there's going to be someone that comes long. And if they can prove that you're wrong, they will. And I think that's what free speech is all about.

Free speech, you should not censor. You should give better speech in response to that, right? Right. Encourage it to happen. So if someone's lying or someone is making up something, then, you know, then prove why they're doing that.

And then it's done. It's over. And I see that all the time on X. Someone posts something that's not true. There will be three or four, five or ten comments say, here's why this is not true. Community notes is also over there.

And then either the person will delete it or they will correct it because that's the way speech is supposed to be done. It is a community discourse of people that all come to the truth. And I think that is the greatest thing about humanity and our population and information right now is that if you give people,

if you give people open, discourse, they will find the truth. So why do you think that mainstream media and the globalist want so badly to censor you? Because if you can talk, you will find the truth, which are also usually known as conspiracy theories. Right. And believing, you're going to find the truth over on X because there are so many things you can talk about on X that you can't

on Facebook or other platforms. Yeah, you're going to see people all the time over there. You can't stand. Like you never want to see another post of there. It's like, you're just about, oh, my God, this guy's an asshole. But you know what? Even those people, I don't ever block or anything because I just like just see. Because I can go to their post and they'll have their followers, but they'll also have people that just completely talk shit and say, this is why you're completely full of shit.

And it's so awesome to see that. Right. And it's just it's the way that human discourse is supposed to be. Human discourse. That is what's supposed to be. So anyways, let's get into, I want to play the first clip here. And this is Tucker Carlson talking about what he believes about aliens, but also something that he said he's scared to cover his aliens.

The whole alien topic, he's scared to cover this. Let's see what he has to say. I want to break this down because there's a lot to talk about in this just three-minute clip. Here you go. The thing that bothers me is the UFO story. And, you know, the more you dig into that and talk to people with actual knowledge of it, again, that's another story where there are some, you know, fanciful. ideas floating around that are just, you know, there's no evidence that they're true. But if you talk to

people who, you know, have actual knowledge of it that they gathered themselves, there are parts of that story that I do not understand at all that are really, really, really dark. It's so dark that I, you know, haven't told my wife about it. I mean, I haven't verified any of this, but this is not just stuff that I read on the internet. I know you all are very, very grounded in that story, so I think I know, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. But there's some stuff there that's just like, man, I'm not even sure what that means. There's a spiritual component there that I don't fully understand. So, yes, that story bothers me.

And I think last thing I'll say that one of the reasons that we've had all these disclosures and all these, what, 10 whistleblowers at this point, and it hasn't really become front-page news. Part of it's suppression, you know, parts of the government don't want you to know about it, but part of it is the public can't deal with it. It's too far out. The implications are too profound. And so, and I understand that. Because I've heard things, I'm just like, oh, man, I don't even really want to know that, honestly.

Deeply disturbing stuff. You know, forget, like, saucers and technology. It's deeply, deeply disturbing stuff. Stuff that I haven't even told Natalie. I agree with you. It's so disturbing. I can't even tell my kids. My kids ask me different stories about it, and I won't say it because it's so dark.

It's so dark. I totally agree. Miles is watching. Okay, Miles, if you're watching the show, Daddy is not going to tell you about that part of the UFO stuff and what's going on with the government. Can I say one thing? They've known clear, I mean, this is, I think, established, and I feel comfortable saying this as fact.

The U.S. government, I mean, these are real, whatever they are. They're not human. And the government has known that for a long time, possibly going back to the 1930s at least. And, of course, there's tons of evidence in the written record, in the physical record, in paintings, and in literature, that people have been seeing and interacting with this things for a long time.

So we know that. But the justification, one often hears, is, well, the government, the government, various presidents who have been read in, not all have been, haven't wanted to disclose this because it would scare people. And I'm always thought that's bullshit. You know, you're hiding a crime, which they are, by the way, in my opinion.

But I do think there's a sense in which that's not totally crazy. Like, there is some stuff, if it's true, and I'm kind of thinking it may be true, that's so radical that, yeah, well, as we both said, would, you know, don't want to tell the people we love most about it because, like, why would you, you know, disturb someone like that? So I kind of get that. I hate to admit it. I'm not, I'm not arguing for hiding things. I believe in the truth and I believe in disclosure, but I understand the impulse, like, holy smokes, this is heavy. You know what I mean? And the government's

involvement in it makes it even heavier because then you realize the complicity of it. Exactly. Yeah. Okay, so we're talking about the same thing. I can tell. Okay. All right, so that's Tucker Carlson's opinion. He was on Redacted, by the way, redacted is a great. great show and I encourage all of you guys to go listen to redacted um now I want to break down a couple of things he said um first thing he said was a spiritual component uh component and and and they also talked about is so disturbing it's so dark right these are just key words you can take from this um and and one of the things I want to break down here is dark versus spiritual right because you know I we had tried this episode last night didn't work long story it's just it's been weird

with this episode for whatever reason. Much of that will talk about a later time. But nonetheless, why would people be scared or not be able to handle this information? Number one, I think that if you look at right now what people have been through over the past three years alone just with COVID and what it has actually done to people's mentality, their mindset, and it's done it to me in some ways. Life is not what it used to be. and that's the reality of our life in 2023.

I oftentimes go back in my mind, you know, and I will literally go back in and think about the 90s, you know, the 80s, especially the 90s, how great it was, how great it was just to like, you know, listen to good music because that's really when music was good. That's when television was good. You could sit around the living room with your family or your brother or whoever and watch a good show.

You could do your homework or not do your homework. You could go outside and play with your friends. And there's all these things that used to be a, it used to be America, right? A norm. It used to be the norm. It used to be not so bat shit crazy. And then, you know, as whatever started happening.

And I do believe it was the globalist movement to try to take over this world. Everything started to change. Everything from many different nations have completely changed. I think information is one of those things, but I also think it's just a concept of how much the media and government lied to us blatantly in our face. Just think about you have lived in a country that so many people were so patriotic about for so many years. And then one day you wake up and realize, holy shit, this government and country has been lying their ass off and obviously been lying to us before. we just didn't really necessarily realize it. But now it's just like they're lying in our face.

And it's just they don't even give a shit. But let's first talk about the spiritual aspect of this, right? Spiritual component is one of the things I have been really diving deep into. I think that, you know, if anything that I can contribute UFOs to in my life is the fact that I grew up a Christian, I was supposed to believe or was scared to believe or not believe in God, right? growing up as a kid, you know, when you go to church and you listen to a preacher, this big bad preacher this up there, he's like, he's like 50, 60 years old, 70 sometimes talking shit that you don't even know what he's saying and you're 12 or 10 or 9.

And he says basically like, if you don't believe this way, you're going to hell. And I think it's not so much God, but Jesus. You don't believe in Jesus, you're going to hell. That's what a lot of these churches preach. Yeah, Christian churches. I can't speak for other ones. But I'm just saying, as a kid, you. You grow up in.

It's scary. It's scary. And so in my opinion, I think you're somewhat scared into believing, right? You're scared into believing what this system says you were supposed to believe in. Now, I'm not saying that Christianity or the Bible is not true. That's not what I'm saying. We have a biblical series for this reason. And you can go listen to that series.

I encourage you guys to do that, by the way, because we're just trying to break it down as we see it. But one of the things that have got me back to trying to get to the Bible. bottom of like what I believe spiritually about God and Jesus and in all these things is the UFO phenomenon. I will say that. So at the very least that the UFO phenomenon has at least led me back to wanting to know about God, wanting to understand what I was supposed to believe growing up faith, right, quote unquote faith, well at the very least, I, UFOs has led me back there. I have had many years to where it's like, I don't know. I have no idea. I've had many. instances in my life to where I don't believe I could not have got through it without God,

but also I've had times in my life where I sat there and questioned whether or not God was even real because of what I was witnessing or seeing or experiencing. I've had a lot of those moments. And I think there's probably a lot of people that have far worse moments than me that have probably felt the same way. But then as the podcast started and we started talking about CERN and the Large Hadron Collider and where their science is starting to prove other dimensions, right? and then what those dimensions could mean.

And we're talking about, you know, science is starting to prove that if you, which they believe, up to 10 dimensions, probably more exist. And if people exist or things or entities exist in these dimensions, how much that our brain could not even process the power and the almighty that they would have. Right. And you just think about, we're in the third dimension right now. You're like a three dimensional space. Right. Yeah. You think about all the way to 10.

it's just unimaginable what that would feel like or be like or to experience. Yeah. Because, you know, we're right now, like we're in the third dimension. Even fourth is goes about time. And it's a whole different way of knowing about time than we're used to. We think about time as frontwards and backwards. On the clock. Like you look at your watch.

Right. Right. Right. And this, you know, in the fifth dimension or fourth dimension, it's side by side. and it could be linear. Well, it could be that period, right? Right. But also not even just that.

I mean, you got to think about, you know, the base, I guess the best way to say this is like the manipulation of space and time. You always hear space and time. Time can easily be manipulated and it can mean something completely different and act completely different in different places. And it depends on where you're at and what part of the universe you're at and how it all interacts, how close to black holes you are. That's why I love the movie Interstellar. All of these things make sense. So when I started seeing this stuff, I was like, man, I don't know. So now we're starting to kind of prove that there are other dimensions, which, by the way, science used to always say, well, no, you know what?

God can't exist because you can't see them. I mean, how crazy does God even sound? How crazy is that sound that all this crazy stuff, these miracles happen and all this stuff in the Bible? But literally, we're starting to kind of prove this, right? So is non-human intelligence spiritual in nature? Well, there's a lot of whistleblowers. there's a lot of people I guess that have worked on or close to these programs that say there's absolutely at the very least an interdimensional aspect of aliens and UFOs it's not just little green men that come from another planet they get in the spacecraft on their planet they figure out how to travel light years away and then you know they get to your planet these things could harness the power of say a tenth dimension right to where they can easily transverse from 100 light years away to here in an instant.

I mean, that's what we're talking about. And then this also starts playing into what we call consciousness. And, you know, that is a whole other thing. But then if you got to think about like, well, do humans have souls? Well, what does souls mean, right? Is our souls an actual consciousness? Are they a part of a dimensional space, right? because a clip I want to play in a minute,

Bob Lazara actually talked about this. And I hope that you guys can hear good enough and it's a very short clip. We'll play it in just a minute. But yeah, it's, you know, are we, is our spirit, is the thing that makes us who we are, what we think, what we feel, how we react to things,

the reason that we are us. Right. Because most of us know, right, our body is our shell, no matter if you're a religious person or not. Yeah. You know, but we all have souls, you know, Chad and I are not exactly alike.

We don't think alike. We don't have the same. Well, I don't see me right now. You see me. Right. I see you. I am me. But whatever reason, I am me.

Yes. And I see that soul within you. Like, it's not just your body that I'm looking at. Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. But then also, you know, what they also talked about here was like so disturbing and it's so dark. What does that mean, right? I mean, I don't know what that means.

I mean, I don't know what that means. I mean, I guess that's the part that there are people out there that have, that have had some whispers, right, about like what some of these things could be. Now, Stephen Greer is one of those people, Dr. Stephen Greer. He has, he does the, um, the SETI Institute and they do like the CE5 thing to where they actually go out and try to, uh, communicate with these things. And it actually seems to work quite often in their events. And they do it through consciousness.

Yeah, consciousness. some heavy deep meditation to where they seems to kind of summons these things. Now there's a lot of Christians out there are going to say, oh, that's satanning. No, that's not necessarily the case, right? What we have to understand is that this is one of those things that, like if you talk to a Christian, a very devout Christian person, that is all they believe is exactly what the Bible says, exactly how it says it. And other than that, everything else is demonic.

That's not the way I don't think things are in this world. I think that there are a lot of things we don't understand and we probably never will. Maybe we will, but not while we're on this planet more than likely. Well, I think consciousness has to do with other dimensions. Like our consciousness is not 3D. No. It goes way deeper than that. So if we could take our consciousness or our soul out of our body and put it in another dimension,

we could really be like what we're seeing and what's going on in the world. Yeah. Well, that would be the whole spirit right. Right. I mean, this is, you know, the paranormal stuff. And I think that other beings are able to do that and we just don't know how to do it yet. Well. Or maybe some of us do know how to do it and they are experiencing things like that to a minimum.

But, you know, I don't think there's any humans actually flying spaceships right now. Yeah, I don't think so. But who knows? That's very possible. But the dark part of this, right, that's what strange? Like, what would they mean by very dark and very disturbing? I mean, are you talking about these things are demonic entities that are that are rolling around?

I don't think so because if they were so demonic and they had the power to not only go from interdimensional state, which is a, you know, like a non-physical form, a higher consciousness into a physical form, which is what they would basically be saying here with an interdimensional non-human intelligent being coming into a three-dimensional space,

which is what we know as people. and they're a force that could literally destroy humanity in an instant because of how powerful, at the very least, how smart and advanced they are, right? I would not think that these things are demonic. I don't think that these things are evil. And I think that part of this context with people starting to try to rap, look, even Tucker, I got to say this, even Tucker is one of those people that when they talk about stuff like it's so deep and so deep. dark you don't want to hear this right i won't even tell my wife it's almost like they're trying to

make this ploy for a for like you to be against them right it's us versus them and we got to make sure that these things do not come down and destroy us all but i don't believe that concept but i also think that tucker thinks a lot of people's mindset is basically like his wife and there are a lot of people out there that have the same mindset as his wife what is that mind as far as you know they're not like all of us, you guys listening right now. They don't go beyond the everyday life of what they're living. They're in their little bubble and that's all their, that's where they want to be. They want to stay in their bubble.

That's comfortable. Yeah, it's comfortable. This is what I do. I go to work. I go get off work. I go at the grocery store. I cook dinner. I get the kids ready for bed.

And I repeat. This is my life. This is my comfortable bubble. And they're not looking outside the bubble. The difference between those people and us, you guys is you're looking outside that bubble. And that's a huge difference. So, of course, people that are stuck in their own bubble are going to be scared and think

it's deep. I have friends that are totally into UFOs, but they don't want to hear anything about it because it freaks them out too bad. Yeah, they want to hear like the, you know, like the stories about like E.T. Or E.T. phone home. Or they want to watch the movie Paul, which is a cussing smoking alien. I don't think my friends watch that. but they should like everyone should watch the movie paul uh me and brian actually talk about that

often as one of our favorite movies um paul's a great movie although i don't think accurate but it could be and if it was it'd be awesome but um but yes there are people and listen i i got to i'll confess to something so we i i mentioned on the beginning this episode that yes we have kind of went through some mental struggles lately um the past week or two or three actually and we've kind I've been going through this for three or four weeks. And I've been thinking a lot about this. Like once we started this biblical series, I know it's going to sound crazy, you guys. It is really screwed with at least my mind on a lot of different things.

I'm not exactly sure why. I don't know what's going on. But, you know, last night, I did have a few drinks. I actually, you know, I was like, no, where I'm not drinking, I'm, you know, I'm trying to not drink as much and do all this stuff. And then last night where I was like, well, we got to get a podcast out, started to I had some drinks. But like where my mind went last night was just different, right?

I didn't drink a lot. But, you know, I went to bed. Cherry was asleep. And, you know, I was awake. And I was just laying there thinking about stuff. And so some of these thoughts about the UFOs, spiritual, spirituality, the beings. And then just a deep part of my thought process, my psyche about like, what are these things? Like, what are we experiencing?

And I want to know the answers. but it also can be a little scary. I mean, let's just be honest, because we don't know the answers. And that's, again, faith. Well, yeah, I get it. That is faith. To people, yes.

The people that just want to have faith, great. I'm just, and maybe that is supposed to screwing my mind up so bad because I don't, you know, yes, I could just say tomorrow, okay, I have faith in this and this and this. Well, I think you believe it's there, but you want to know what it is. Yeah.

And I believe God exists. I believe all these things. I'm just one of those people, but I've been struggling. struggling so bad with it lately and I don't know why it's a battle inside of me right now and it is it really truly is a battle inside of me mentally physically it's affecting me a lot of different ways um but we won't go into that it's just it's just so I don't know so maybe when Tucker says you know some of these things if you tell someone that hey this is this is what actually is going on we don't know what these things

are but we know that this is happening if you actually told the mass populace of people that we have beings, things that we don't even know what they are that are transversant dimensions? Like how would people react to that? It would almost be like that fake radio show though. Oh God, what was his name? Way back when they had this fake alien

invasion on the radio show and everybody started freaking out because they had this alien invasion. It'd probably be like the same thing. I want to say Orville or something. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I cannot think of like. And, you know, bringing up that radio

show about the fake invasion of aliens, that is a true possibility of happening today of people faking this thing to scare people. I don't know. You know, I really think there are real aliens and I think there's definitely interdimensional stuff going on, but I don't know how true it is and how can we get away with faking it. I don't know. We're going to talk about that.

Yeah. Because this is going to be the big nuts and bolts of this episode. I know we're already 38 minutes in, but I mean, God, I'm just thinking. that we're 38 minutes into anything lately because I'm telling you guys it's been a struggle lately but we're here and we're gonna keep pushing on I want to play a quick clip

it's very short and I hope that you guys can hear this very clearly but this is what Bob Lazar said about classified government documents I want you to hear what he says and then we'll talk about it core thing is that there is an extremely classified document dealing with religion and it's about

that period but why would there be any classified material dealing with religion. I want to go back to the religion thing. I want you to say it. It's so far out. All right, your objection has been noted. Okay.

What does it say? That were containers. That's how supposedly the aliens look at, that we are nothing but containers. Containers of? Containers. Maybe containers of souls, you can come up with whatever theory you want. you want that were containers and that's how we're mentioned in the documents that religion was

specifically created so we have some rules and regulations for the sole purpose and not damaging the containers so there you go so bob lazar is on record right here um and this was probably 19 30s late night no 30s i'm sorry god 1970s now this is probably 80s 80s 80s or 90s it's probably 80s but Bob Lazar here is saying that, you know, there are classified religious documents to say that we are containers. I mean, these are classified government documents and they, where these documents talk about religion, right? And look, some of you out there might be, oh, that's Bob Lazar. I'll give me a break. Government's already, government's already discredited to him.

You know, they said he didn't do this. They say he didn't do that. Whatever. Look, I will tell you this about Bob Zarar. I don't give a damn what anybody says. or speculates, Bob Lazar has said every single thing that we are finding out now.

And he said this in the late 80s and 90s. Way before any of this came out. He said this and came out in public to George Knapp, which is why George Knapp is so big in the UFO space now. But he came out and said this to protect himself because he was working at Area S4. We've talked about this on other episodes, but he was working on Area S4.

Some stuff happened, whatever the case may be. Then he started taking his friends out to, this area in the desert outside of area s4 slash area 51 because these are two different little regions there and because he knew when they were going to be testing these reverse engineered craft he knew and every time he would bring him i think he brought them like 10 or 12 times um well he saw them they actually saw these craft being manipulated and used in some weird crazy ways and this was back in the i think 80s i guess right so so if if these advanced

You know, no obvious signs of propulsion crafts, which seemed to be like gravitron fed, like that, you know, basically what Bob Azar had already said was it created their own gravity field around the craft. All this up. If we were doing this in the 80s, and by the way, I think we were doing this far earlier than this. And we're going to play a clip here in a minute with Stephen Greer about how actual early we did this. But if we were doing this in the 80s and 90s, imagine how far advanced we are with this technology now. Absolutely. That's 40 years ago.

Could you imagine if we started doing this at least in the 80s? How far we have to have come? And I think we probably come a long way. And I think we've come a long way as far as medical to reverse engineering some medical stuff. I think. Yeah, we have, but it's not like we should. Right. Because it would kill, it would destroy the pharmaceutical industry.

Yeah. And we don't want that. Yeah. Well, no, we do. We actually do want that. They don't want it. I mean, they don't want it. Yeah, they don't want it.

They don't, yes. Because the reality is that if you have a cure for cancer based on some crazy advanced technology, which there are people out there that have said that we have the technology to cure pretty much all diseases. Yeah, to cure all diseases. But I think part of the problem, too, is we don't have a lot of the material that they found in these crafts that are of earth material. I get it.

But I also think we have figured out a lot of stuff. We figured out. I get what you're saying. We don't have all the material that we have on other planets. I get that. But we also do have technology based on what a lot of people say that we could cure most all diseases right now. That's what I'm telling you. There are people.

And I'm not saying people. I'm talking about people that have lightly whistleblowed through various sources that say that we have technology. We are hiding that could cure almost all diseases. Now this is also somewhat talked about in the book The Day Before Roswell, which I always encourage people to read It's a great book. It was from a, I think he was a colonel in the military That was a part of the Roswell incident.

He then was sent to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. He was also there when they brought the biologics of these bodies From the Roswell crash and then also he then was part of the Pentagon program Where they started bringing in some of the things they found in these craft and he even talked about his experience and what he saw during the crash and the retrieval and even these beings that were out and he even says that you know they were our military executed some of these i mean you know so it's like there's so much to be said here but let's get back to bob lazar for a second bob lazar said there are classified religious documents in the

united states government that talk about that our bodies are containers for a spiritual soul for a soul Now, say that, right? Say that, for example, say that just for a second. You erased everything you ever knew just based on what Balthas are saying, religious or spiritual, whatever. Just say that we're containers and say that we know nothing. We've never had a Bible. We've never read anything about any God, by anything at all.

We're just new, you know, all we know is what we're finding out right now. So we're a container for a spirit, according to classified religious documents. okay, it still makes sense because whatever these non-human intelligent beings are that are manifesting themselves in a physical form such as craft, biologics, whatever the case is, um, those biologics,

if you think about it this way, are also containers for their interdimensional souls or, or higher consciousness. Right. Right. So we would technically be no different. just dumber. Like way, way dumber.

We're like ants. We can't go and do what they're doing. Not necessarily. Take our soul and container with us. No, we can. Or even our soul. Some people can, I think. I don't know.

But do you understand what I'm saying? I mean, I think when you see, like, the fact that we can get biologics from these things, I think would also be similarly considered as a container for a spiritual or higher consciousness or a soul, right? And I think these religious documents of Bobbazar is referring to would be very similar to say that's who we are as people. It's just on a different thing, right? I mean, biologics and a spacecraft you find when something that crashes. That is a container for whatever is controlling.

They're highly advanced, very smart, telepathic, by the way. Most of these beings are very telepathic. And all you're seeing is these little freaking bodies, which most people account for aliens being very small, slender. but it's just a container for a physical manifestation of who they actually are. And I believe at the very least, our bodies, our self is nothing more the container for our spiritual souls. And so when that body dies, what happens? Well, I still think we're there. You don't kill the soul.

I don't think you can never kill the soul. I've been thinking a lot about this. The soul doesn't stay in the body and you don't bury the soul. No, you don't. And that's the thing. The body is a container. It's dead. It's gone.

but your soul, it has to go somewhere. It doesn't die, I don't think. Yeah, just the concept, though, of, and I want to make this very clear. I mean, people might be out there, be like, what the hell is you talking about? I know. I want you to fully understand what I'm saying. Okay. Everything that we've ever learned or tried to learn, and what they've always tried to tell is, like, when you bury someone and they die, you're like, oh, yeah, his soul's going off to heaven or wherever.

and you know how many times have been at funerals? I'm like, okay, he's dead and that sucks. Like, I've literally thought, I, that is what I feel in my soul, my gut. Yeah, but you've also experienced things when you feel people from death. I have, absolutely. You know, after life. I absolutely have. And I'm not one of those people.

And I think some, all of us have experienced that in one way or another. After somebody dies, you feel them in some extent or another. Well, most of the time I don't. Like most of the time, like one person I've always wanted to feel or experience was my dad. You know, and I don't ever even dream about him. I mean, I think the one time I dreamed about my dad was like not a good one. Yeah, but we have had experiences where we felt your dad together. One time.

One time. But other than that, yes, besides that, it was one person, though. It was Travis. And Travis, it seemed like whatever, for whatever reason, his death and whatever, however to happen. Yeah, he did record music here and all that stuff. But man, it's like he has had a presence here for a while. He at least did for three, four, five years after his death. Right.

And it was very weird. And we could probably do an entire episode on that, literally. I mean, we could do like a three-hour episode on that. We've never talked about it because it is strange and is weird and it sounds crazy, but it's not. I'm just not one of those people that are like, oh, yeah, there's ghost everywhere. No, I don't believe that. No, but I think you have to have part of your brain open that normally is not open. We only use 10% of our brain.

Well, here's the thing. I don't even think that's the case with that. that stuff. Well, you have to, people could experience things that we're experiencing and not even know it. No, they wouldn't. No, but I'm saying, I know what you're saying, Sherry. What I'm saying is that the stuff that happened when we, when we experience those things about Travis, anyone that would have been here would have also experienced those. Yeah, but they could chalk it up to, oh, there's creeks in the house or it's this or is that. I'm just saying people don't open their minds as much as they should. Okay. Well, that's not what I was saying. And talking about that, I want to come back to this later. is I want to talk about DMT and how that does actually open your mind to experience some of these

interdimensional things going on. Yes, okay. But I want to make something very clear again. What I'm telling you is that the things that we've experienced because of Travis, anyone that would have been here would have experienced the exact same thing. I'm saying that those things

that happened during that time were so strong. It's not opening your mind up and trying to be psychic. No, I'm not saying that either. I mean, we heard things, but I think that... No, it's not just hearing things. There was so much stuff that...

Okay, I got you. There was so much stuff that happened. It's not just hearing stuff. You know what happened and all that whole stuff with Travis. We did, you know, I was just saying there's not... Not everybody might experience it the same way as all I'm saying. Yeah, I do. But if you disagree, that's fine.

Yeah, I do. Because I'm just saying that I, there's been people that said, oh, I feel this or I feel this or whatever. And the reality is, is that I think what happened during the Travis thing was so, so strong that I think anyone here in that moment in any way, shape or form, would have experienced that in exactly the same way we did. I don't think it was just subject to me or whatever. It was even as far as like his coat jacket that he had lost. He had actually told me one day, two weeks or it was like, I don't know, five days before

he died. He said, I lost my sport coat. Or was that what he said? Yeah, it was a sports coat. Oh, it was like a jacket. You know, it was a nice jacket, suit jacket. And I still can't exactly But however this story happened

It was nuts And then one day I found it in a closet Which would have never ever been there For any reason We never even knew it was here Yeah never would have put it in the closet His pick was there There was so much stuff

There was a lot of stuff But then there was also just things That were breaking down upstairs Anyways Let's get into I want to get into what Dr. Stephen Greer talks about What really happened to the UFO at Roswell

And how far along are we advanced with this reverse engineering technology because this stuff is this stuff is very paramount like when we start talking about who is in control of these potentially humanity ending um weaponry which is UFO and uap technology this is weaponry i mean we're not used we're not getting these craft and putting them in in places to where we are using them for good, although many people that have been a close or have been close to these programs say that we could be using this for so much good for our people to advance us as a civilization, to cure diseases, to do all these things for for the greatness of humanity.

But what are they doing? They're developing weapons with these. They're developing control systems with these. Our own government doesn't have control of these programs. These are dark black budget programs that no one even freaking knows. who they are besides the people that are very high up in in the elitist globalist cabal that have all the money that are being given shit tons of money by the government by the government because listen here's why they're being given shit tons of money by the government the pentagon

which just failed their annual audit again by 50 percent and they do it almost every year and we're talking about billions of dollars is going somewhere and that money basically is going to these black budget programs that are reverse engineering this stuff. And so, but the problem is that they're using our taxpayer dollars to do this, yeah. With no oversight whatsoever, and they are lawless. And they have no oversight. They are freaking lawless. Right.

They are outlaws, and they have the power to destroy humanity. If you think the nuclear bomb is deadly and dangerous, I mean, what, Sherry? nothing. I'm just saying this oversight committee, they don't know anything. They go constantly trying to find things and the government won't say anything. But who is the government? I think, when I think about government, I think about all these people in the government, right? And they want to know the truth too. So who is the top of the government? Well, when you go to the top, you think about your president, Biden. I don't think they know shit either. It's all these things behind. So who really is in charge? Well, it's like you were saying. Yeah, I mean, the point is, is what I'm trying to say here is that these dark programs, no one knows. Yes, you're right. The whoever you're talking about, the oversight committee or all these, you know, committees they're setting up have zero clue. What the hell is actually going on or who has any of the money? What they're actually using the money for.

Do they have weapons that they're reverse engineering from UFOs from actual alien spacecraft that could literally destroy, all of humanity, but also could they have weaponry that they have produced that could control all of humanity because that's even more important. It's not about necessarily, in my opinion, I don't think, and that's what we're about to get to. I don't think it's about being that the global power as much because I think we know that China probably has this technology as well. Russia has this technology as well, potentially. We also know that Germany and Nazi Germany had advanced technology back then.

I think they had a lot of weird things going on with non-human intelligence that a lot of people don't even talk about, and we're talking about Nazi Germany. I mean, they had technology that was far advanced for their time that no one else had, which is exactly the reason why NASA was started and founded on Vran Bron, which we brought over from the Nazi Germany. Essentially, NASA was founded on Nazis. and we brought over all their scientists because of whatever their experience and whatever it was they did they had a lot of info and a lot of I guess

what you would say a lot of credible things to really benefit reverse engineering is what I believe is what Nazi Germany brought over I want to play you a clip from Dr. Stephen Greer where he talks about the study of extraterrestrial intelligence and the disclosure project.

He also talks about reverse engineering, and we'll break this down as soon as this is over. Here you go. This is Dr. Stephen Gru. Between the late 1800s in 1929, there were a number of breakthroughs that ended up being suppressed that had to do with creating very high voltage VHV systems so that you could create a vector

into what's now been called the zero point. energy field. When Nikola Tesla died, this information that he had, which allowed for a car to run out of the ambient energy, was in documents confiscated by the FBI. And I have a Department of Defense document demanding that the FBI turned these over to the DOD. The FBI refused. By 1928 and 29, T. Townsend Brown, as well as to Koloski-Frost experiment in and physics in Germany had determined that VHV, very high voltage systems done in a certain resonant field, could result in so-called electromagnetic-gravitic effect, the lifter effect that has been described, which you see in UFOs.

They also can create what's called a spacetime bubble around an object so that you can correct for 1G. This is how these objects are traveling at multiples of what any aerodynamic physics would describe and can make right-hand turns without killing the occupants. Around this same time, there was in the 1940s and the late 1930s a number of UFO sightings. This included the so-called foo fighters. Yes, it's a famous rock group. However, the foo fighters took their name from the reports of these objects seen in the theater

of World War II that were flying around our aircraft. We thought it was a secret weapon of the Nazis. The Nazis thought it was a secret weapon of ours. There is Jimmy Doolittle, the famous general. His nephew is a dear friend of mine, and he has testified that General Doolittle was sent by FDR over to the European theater in World War II, investigated the foo fighters,

and came back and told Roosevelt, and I quote, they are interplanetary vehicles. So by then, there began a classified program, which was augmented further by events, as mentioned, in 1941, and then, of course, the famous Roswell event. Those events led to, as Philip Corso describes, a reverse engineering program. As you all know from the famous Wilbur Smith document of 1951 from Canada,

it talks about that flying saucers exist, but there's a high-level team headed up by Dr. Vannevar Bush that is studying the, quote, motus operandi of these vehicles. In October of 1954, a key date I want the committee to remember, we have actionable intelligence from someone who has worked in the National Security Agency and has been in the vault. All of this went deep black because they figured out at that point gravity control. So since 1954, October of that year, we have not needed rockets, jets, internal combustion engines, and surface roadways between cities. I say this with authority that this is the case. Eventually, these breakthroughs in human discovery were complemented by the study of the extraterrestrial material that were retrieved from these events. And contrary to most people's thoughts, the Roswell event was actually a downing of an extraterrestrial vehicle by a electromagnetic system that was hidden in a radar.

dome that was switched on, and this is in an FBI document that I can provide for the committee and is on the flash drive given to the Congress. The result, ultimately, was that there were transdimensional physics that began to be studied that deal with the nexus between electromagnetism, energy generation, anti-gravity, and consciousness. And we have discovered that there is a nexus, and that, in fact, there are electromagnetic systems that have been developed that can interface directly with what we call coherent thought, the same way that you can interface with a system with lasers, which is coherent light, where you sink up all the wavelengths.

Ultimately, these breakthroughs were paralleled with amazing developments in the biological sciences and the experimentation with cloning. And this began many years earlier than was reported from Dolly, the Sheet. in Scotland. This goes a little beyond, I think, what this committee wants to look into. However, you need to understand that the technologies that we have, and we are discussing are not theoretical, we have actionable intelligence that any committee in Congress or executive action can find regarding current operations. And I just want to go through a list of them very quickly of these facilities and corporations for which we have witnesses. who can be subpoenaed by the committees of the Congress. This was developed at the request of Congressman Christopher Cox of Orange County with whom I met and was later further developed for the briefing that we put together for President Obama. These facilities are the Edwards Air Force Base and subsections on at the dry lake bed

where the Lockheed Skunk Works operations. Haysstack, Butte, China Lakes, George Air Force Base, and the closed Norton Air Force Base were an anti-gravity device, so-called alien reproduction vehicle for which we have the schematics was seen by Frank Carlucci and others on our witness team. Tabletop Mountain and Blackjack Control. The aerospace facilities there are the Northrop Ant Hill Facility, Tihon Ranch, the McDonnell Plant, Lockheed Martin, Hellendale plant and the Phillips Lab. At the Nellas Air Force facility, so-called Area 51, no one calls it that. There's S4 and S-12 Pahoot Mesa, Groom Lake, and a number of sub-facilities. The most important facility is in Utah, near Provo, the Dugway Proving Grounds, all of which

is underground and the airspace above it is classified. There are no roads into this facility. The New Mexico facilities include Los Alamos National Lab, with underground connectors to the so-called Dulcy area where the biological work is being done, and Kirtland Air Force Base. And the complex there includes Sandia National Laboratories, Phillips Labs, Manzanow Mountain Weapons Storage Facility, Coyote Canyon, and the White Sands Complex. In Arizona, near Fort Wachuka, which is Army Intelligence Headquarters,

there is a UGB underground base where one of our witnesses, who will testify, worked on nine separate extraterrestrial vehicles that had been down through advanced electromagnetic pulse weapons, and there are several different species of extraterrestrial biologicals stored at that facility. The other facilities, and this goes on, include a special compartmented area of Cheyenne Mountain, where we have witnesses in our team who can be subpoenaed, where we have tracked extraterrestrial vehicles in our solar system that we're measuring 26 miles in diameter. There are also facilities in Australia, a key wind being Pine Gap, the so-called Alice Springs facility, which is mostly a U.S. Air Force facility, even though it is in Australia.

I recently talked to the Deputy Prime Minister of Australia about this. Also, the Redstone Arsenal and the Marshall Space Flight Center. We have a scientist at the Redstone Arsenal who works under contract for IT&T who have developed these transdimensional systems. He was under contract with my project to bring these energy devices out. And he was then threatened by a former CIA director and what I call the Goon Squad that went down there three years ago in March. This is just part of the information we have. Well, this is just part of it. Holy shit.

We're going to try to break this down because that's a lot. Right. There's so much to go through. And so if you guys are clicking on this episode to talk about reverse engineering, well, we're about to get to it. Let me preface this with the fact that I have went on record on this podcast with Ashton Forbes, for example, where Ashton Forbes comes out. You know, he's been behind the push of the MH370 videos where there are three orbs that encircle this aircraft. and subsequently the aircraft MH370, which was the passenger liner aircraft from Malaysian Airlines that disappeared over the ocean.

And ever since then, none of those passengers have ever been found recovered. No, well, apparently a few parts of the aircraft supposedly was actually recovered, although we can't directly connect those pieces of the aircraft to the actual Malaysians airline. flight 370. And so when Ashton started coming out with this, we were actually the first podcast that

broke the story for Ashton with Ashton, I guess you can say. And then Ashton went on to go on so many other things. Well, one of the things Ashton encountered was mega, hardcore debunking. Now, you can say whatever you want to say about the whole MSRy 70 deal. I encourage you guys to still follow Ashton, his updates and all this stuff. but at the very least, say that the video was debunked, and we've talked about this on Nationalist thing, they knew everything about what these,

exactly what Stephen Greer just explained, could have been capable of. We're talking about we know, and Stephen Greer, he's Dr. Stephen Greer, he was a former trauma doctor. He has since been heavily involved in U.S. government briefings and so on with Congress, Senate, and you name it. He's been the subject of various whistleblowers that have come forward to him,

very much similar to Jeremy Corbell and others. And one of the things that Stephen Greer talks about here is that we know that we have accomplished what is known as the lifter effect. We know that we can create now, according to Dr. Stephen Greer and other whistleblowers, a spacetime bubble, which is when we talked about that. We've talked about this for three years about how what Bob Lazarus, explain was, you know, around these craft that they were experimenting on in Area 51 slash S4, there was basically a bubble around the craft that was a gravity bubble, which I guess you could

call this a space time bubble. Now, Bob Lazar said this in the late 80s and 90s. This is when he first came out to George Knapp and he was explaining his encounter and what he was sent to work on at Area S4, Area 51. He was literally saying that this is how. these things work. Then you have Dr. Stephen Greer that has heavy, I guess, insight and not really read-in because he's not part of the government technically, but he has whistleblowers and very close sources to this that say, hey, this is how these things work. This is what happens.

He's heavily involved in this. And we're still hearing the exact same thing that Bob Lazar said how these craft worked. And according to Stephen Greer, Bob Lazar was really. right and it was working there, but this is the least of the work going on in our country. You know, everybody thinks about, you know, oh gosh, why did I go blank? About S4 or whatever. Everyone thinks about when you think about spaceships and aliens, you think about this place. Area 51.

Yeah, that's Ariel and 51. I don't know why I forgot. But when he's talking just now, he's saying there's many, many areas. He named all over the country where this does. office going on. That was one place back in the 70s, 80s, 90s. But you think about everywhere that he said, he said there was one place that there was a UFO that they explored.

That was 26 miles long. Well, no, it wasn't one place. No. So he's talking about in our solar system. Right. There has been, we have tracked, you know, actual alien spacecraft that are 26 miles. You think about 26 miles. Like, how big is that?

What could you like compare that to? I mean, I don't know. I mean, that's like from here to another city. That's huge. It's huge. Yeah, it's massive. And it's something else he talked about here also with a space time bubble was, you know, we figured out a way that we could do right-hand turns,

even though I don't think he explained that well when he said right-hand turns without killing the occupants. What he's really talking about is that we figured out a way to go and do crazy amount of G's, essentially taking a craft of any. kind in the air or otherwise and putting you inside of this going from zero to say 50,000 miles an hour in a second without killing you because that's what's known as G forces. Right. And it would crush you.

Yeah. The pressure, the force on your body, it would kill you instantly. And so the only way you can do it. And not only would it kill you instantly, it would also destroy whatever you have, whatever you're actually in. So the only way you can actually protect something. unless you had some type of material that could withstand those G forces. But I don't think that's what they're actually saying here.

They have figured out the technology, not they. We have reverse engineered the technology from the UFO UAPs. That you don't necessarily, I don't even think necessarily you would have to worry about the craft itself. You would just have to figure out how to create a space time bubble around it to where then you no longer have to worry about what is actually inside of this. Now, Ashton is very extensive on this with how he believes MH Street 70 happened. Now, there are people out there still hardcore trying to debunk Ashton and his videos and all the stuff. But at the very least, what Ashton and his path and where he's going with his investigation work, he's talking about engineering, physics, you know, geoengineering, all this stuff.

And he's really trying to dive deep into trying to understand this. because the only way you can really understand this is you would have to, you would have to be the, you would have to gain the knowledge of the best of the best engineering or, or I guess astrophysicist and all this. You'd have to gain this information to even try to understand how this works. Right. But just take for example,

if we can manipulate gravity around a thing, whether it be your car or an airplane, you could do anything with that at that point. Right. You don't need propulsion or anything. You're just gone. Yeah, you're gone. But you think about too, and I was thinking about this as we're listening to the last thing.

It was Stephen Greer. He named all these bases where they're experimenting with these things. Yeah. Well, if that's the case, wouldn't that be our government and not the other projects going on? No, they're all interconnected. So, you know, what you have to understand is like these government contractors, right, was so skunk works, Lockheed Martin, so on and so forth. They all have very deep access into our.

most advanced and in secretive facilities. And a lot of these, you know, people are always like waiting outside of Area 51 and try to figure out things, sees them. What you guys don't understand is that most of our highly secretive facilities are underground. They are now all in the ground. Yeah, he was saying that. Yes.

We have talked about, you know, I think on another episode to where you can go from one end of the country to the other in tunnels that our government has. There are underground cities. It sounds like a big conspiracy theory. It's not. There are underground cities in the United States of America where you can travel from Washington, D.C., from this to this, all the way across the country, and there are multiple cities underground. These cities are basically laid out for the elites, the globalist, and the politicians or whoever's paid in and really connected. This is what this is laid out.

It's not laid out for you. They don't get a fuck about you. I'm sorry. I'll excuse my language. They don't care about us. No, they do not. Well, and you look at the Hamas-Israel war going on. We are finding what's going on and how precise their tunnels are and how far down they go.

And they're like a third world country to me. They're a terrorist organization. They're not even a first world country. So you can imagine what they're building and up it like 100%. That's what we're building. Yeah, one of the richest countries in the world. I mean, one of them. But United States of America and all the funding and all that stuff that goes in this.

And you don't think that we have massive underground swaths of land and cities. We do. Yeah. We absolutely 100% do. I even told Sherry, I was like, we all just, you know, one day we had to just build a tunnel in our backyard and just start building it. No, no, screw finding it. We'll just build our own damn town underground. Yeah.

And we'll just, we'll have land for days. We even got to buy it. Yeah. We'll just be underground. We'll have acres of land and no one will ever know. I mean, really. I mean, no one would know, really. I mean, if you went underground and went from your property and go underground, who would know your underground their property?

Yeah. Nobody would know. Yeah. As long as you went deep enough. Yeah, you'd have to go deep like Hamas. Yeah. So what he's saying here is that they went deep black as soon as they figured out gravity control. When we say deep black, that means there is no connection to any group that knows anything about anything, including our United States government.

And that's where it gets dangerous. He said we no longer needed propulsion. We don't need roads. We don't need jet engines. We don't need combustible car engines. We don't need any of that because the technology we have figured out and created would solve. almost all of the world problems. If you're,

if you're so concerned about green energy, if you're so concerned about carbon emissions and all this stuff, we have the technology to completely transform the planet, according to these experts. Right. Now, or these people that are saying this, right? Now,

I fall on like two different sides of this because... I was going to ask you, how do you feel? Because even with Ashton stuff, you are not on board that it could be the government that pulled this off. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, you're right. I mean, and I have been on record to say, like even MH370, I don't know.

Could it be UFOs or is the government that far advanced? Now, my argument has always been for the government, and I've seen this lately, by the way, and I don't want my sentiment to change if it's changing in the wrong direction. And I don't want to be manipulated or coerced from people to think something that is not true. The unfortunate part here is that we don't know what's true. And so we're going to have to try to figure out with all the best evidence what is the most likely scenario, right? Because we don't know. There's no way for us to know.

You have on one side of the spectrum, someone saying that we're trying to reverse engineer this stuff. We just can't figure it out. It is so advanced. There's no way we have this technology. There's no way we have this stuff. There's no way. These are all UFOs you're seeing. These are all advanced civilizations.

These are all non-human intelligence. These are all things that there's no way that anyone on a planet could have. But wait, let me finish my consensus. And then on the other side, you have people saying, oh, this is our technology. This is, we have figured us out since 1955. We have done all these things. We know exactly what's going on. We know anti-gravity.

We know space-time bubble. We know how to manipulate. time and space and gravity. And then the argument to that also is like, well, if we know that, then especially with the assholes that are in control of these programs, because it would be the same assholes that are in control of the military and industrial complex and that manipulate politicians into making sure that wars continue to happen, why would we not have complete control over the world or at least them?

And I can't anymore at the very least say that the government, the United States would have complete control over the world with this technology if they had it. Because the United States government technically doesn't have this technology, I don't think. Right. If this is happening, it is defense contractors that may not be, I mean, they're given a few little people in the government information about what they actually have. And that should be the scariest thing because we may have a rogue state of people. people that could literally destroy everything we ever know. And the government is, is powerless, Russia's powerless, everyone's powerless, except for these

people that are the same people that love death and destruction. And then you got to think about, well, who would potentially be connected to these deep dark programs from Raytheon, Lockeworks, whatever? I guess you could say military would be somewhat connected, but they not be. they may not be as connected as you think. Even though it's going on on their bases. Yeah, they may not be as connected. Because even that is so compartmentalized,

even at the highest level. Even the president can't be read in on a lot of stuff. But we got to think about what do these organizations and people care about the most? What they care about? Power. Pick a guess. No money.

Money and power and taking control. Money, though. They number one care about money. I know that's the rhetorical question, but it is money. military industrial complex cares about money what is pharmaceutical care about do they care about you or they care about money they care about money so if we look at money aspect of it whoever the highest bidder is is going to have control and access to this material period and if they're developing this technology

on a very high level whoever has the most money to uh apprehend this technology or to at least be able to use and be a part of and over this technology are going to be the highest bidders. I don't think it's just, I don't think you can chalk it up to just the United States government is the one that's developing this and a reverse engineering. I think it could be much more rogue than that. I'm talking about we could have military contracting companies that are so heavily financed into the government and control all of the government. These people are controlling governments.

They do this. I mean, the military industrial complex and some of these companies, are some of the companies that influence decisions on politicians to create or not stop wars because they know it's going to financially benefit them. And these are the same companies and people that now potentially are over some of the most advanced weaponry the world and humanity has ever seen. And that's scary as shit. I totally agree with you. And it is scary. But I have to take us back to this point.

if these companies have all this power. Why have they not used it by now? I don't know. And the second thing is they could have had it. They could control the whole world. Why wouldn't they use it? If they have it, use it. Another thing I want to bring up real quick is when we first got into this reverse engineering stuff,

we found, according to our government or who else ever else is around, we've had materials of not this earth. There are very light metallic materials that they use to build these things. And we don't have access to that on earth. So how is it possible to build these things if we don't even have the material to build them? I don't know.

I mean, you make a good point to that. I mean, it depends on how much the material is needed with the system versus the actual technology. It's got to be lightweight, right? Well, not necessarily. I mean, if you can figure out how they manipulated a space time bubble around the craft, it don't make a shit what it is. It could be a thousand or it could be a million ton chunk of lead.

As long as they figure out a space time bubble around that to manipulate gravity, don't make a shit how big it is. So you're saying that you don't think it has anything to do with material, not of this earth. I don't think so. I mean, that's just my opinion. Because that's what they used to say. I know I get it. Yeah.

They found these materials that are not over this earth. I get that. Yeah. I mean, I agree. I'm not discrediting what you're saying because the reality is, is that the way that they, potentially the way that they could create that space time bubble may be dependent heavily on the material that they get or are able to gather from these craft, right? And so you may not be able to create a space time type bubble without this potential or

particular material. And if that's the case, then they are very dependent on downing spacecraft to be able to continue their program, right? Which is possible. You know, Stephen Greer here says that we have electromagnetic pulse downing weapons, which are also, you know, EMPs. Yeah, that's the first time I've heard of this. That's crazy.

Yeah, so electro-magnet. No, I know we have those. Sorry. I know that we have those, but I didn't not. realize we use them. Well, according to Stephen Greer, we have EMP weaponry or electromagnetic pulse weapons. And we've talked about this on the podcast many times. We have EMPs.

We talked about tons. Yeah, but we haven't talked about. No, not them used in the sense of downing UFOs, obviously. But if, and I don't know exactly how it relates necessarily to, you know, I mean, I guess what I can say is electromagnetic field is very heavily involved. potentially in space time bubbles and how this all works. We're literally talking about higher consciousness here, which all has to do with signals,

radio frequencies and waves, and all of these things that we're talking about, like how Wi-Fi works, how radio signals work, how 5G works, how cell phone signals work. The same thing you can think about can be intercepted potentially through EMP-type directed weapons.

And if these interdimensional, electromagnetic things that are coming through in a physical dimension are in any way connected to that to that scale right then we have an ability to down that shoot them down to basically either disconnect interrupt or shut off the signal it's almost like lightning and thunder kind of is what I think of so so here lightning is hitting them and they're going down yes so here's so here's what he said we have the ability to potentially harness and manipulate coherent thought, the same way that we can manipulate coherent light, aka lasers, right? Coherent light, a light is a is a version of a signal, right?

And the same way we can manipulate that in lasers, we can also do that with coherent thought. It is all signals. We've talked about this. Our brain waves are signals. And that's what we forget to understand is that our brain waves and how our brains work, how our heart works, how is that. how it sends a signal, a pulse, and I'm not talking about a pulse pulse. I'm talking about an actual electrocourrency

to our chambers of our heart versus, and also our brains. Yeah, our brain is the main control system. Those are all signals, though. They're all actual signals on a radio frequency wave that, you know, can, could also be manipulated. You talk about pacemakers, all this stuff. Everything I think in our, in our, in everything we know,

and to be honest with you guys I'm going a little deeper but when you start even talking about Wi-Fi sending signals through the air you know we never used to have it we had freaking dial-up we had you had to you had to be connected to a actual line transmitted data right from one side to another

it was through a wire before that we didn't have shit right right but then you know but then after that we figured out sending data signals communications images. Like right now, I can send you guys an image on an email. You might be in the freaking forest somewhere and look at your email and you get an image of me. Now, that is all through

something. You can't even see how it got there. Right. I just want to. And it's going to be there in two seconds. But it is manifesting itself and is a physical visual realm. Right. But it came to you from a non-visual realm that you cannot see. Right. That signal you can't see at all. And that's so crazy to think about because, again, when you can't see things, it's hard to believe or picture or understand. Unless you can see something that manifest from the thing that you can't see, which is aka UFOs. The only reason that people want to believe or even think about believing in UFOs is if we're starting to see physical things.

of UFOs. But if you tell someone, oh, well, there is non-human intelligence there, or there is God, you can't see him, but you got to believe in him. A lot of people are like, nope, don't see him, don't believe it. And then as soon as you start saying, oh, well, see it, believe it, that's the same thing is like, say you go back 20 years ago and said, do you have one or two computers that you actually have Wi-Fi on? You go to a family and say, hey, I'm about to send you something in this device I'm going to give you. I'm going to go out there and you're going to see something. And they're going to like, what the hell is he even talking about? You're going to send this through to air magically, okay.

But they think that's crazy. But the reality is they just don't understand it. Right. And I think what we're starting to realize is that there's so much we don't understand, that we don't know. And I think that the more we start to understand, the more it's going to blow our minds. And maybe that's why you say that, hey, you know,

some of these things could be very detrimental to humanity's minds. Our minds are so effed up right now. we have more mental crisis in this world in this country right now and we've ever had people feel hopeless people feel all of these things and i and i get that but i also think it's because we're not able to use as much of our mind as god gave us but i i know but i think that's also why people are seeking out um as much information as they can get so what i do want to say about this UFO topic and we're not done yet by the way this has been an hour in 27 i know but what i do want to say about this topic is, when you hear all this stuff, be hopeful.

Because in my opinion, this is not scary to me at all. This UFO, non-human intelligence stuff, this just makes me, it's almost like, thank God. Thank God that we're starting to actually see some of this stuff come to fruition. Because. Well, you think about what you hold in your hand all day, your phone. That's another example of you're getting all this information through a phone. It's not hooked up to anything. No.

It's there is wavelengths coming to your phone to give you the information. And you're seeing that physical. Yeah. And we can't see the wavelengths coming into your phone, but they're there. Absolutely. Yeah, I want to play you a quick clip of what Dr. Stephen Greer said about reverse engineering, non-human intelligence, all this stuff. And then it's very quick, but here you go.

At least three things going on. Man-made UFO-related phenomenon that looks alien. actual extraterrestrial, both ones that are here and ones that are coming in from other star systems, and extra-dimensional interdimensional phenomenon. Those three are operating simultaneously and are all being called the same thing. And it isn't helpful because that level of confusion actually plays into the hands of the ones who want to strip the whole world of any semblance of freedom and everyone goose stepping underneath the egos and power of folks who want to scare the hell out of everyone. And, you know, as Franklin is attributed.

All right. So there's Dr. Stephen Greer saying that three things exist at once. And I believe this, by the way. Stephen Greer believes, well, I believe most of this anyway, Stephen Greer believes that we have reverse engineered technology to where we could fake and alien innovation. We can make people believe that we actually have hostile craft in our airspace, that we don't know what it is. We want the people to believe that potentially this could be hostile. And we want to start this hype train to try to make people believe that these things could be a national defense problematic issue, right? A national offense threat.

And so I don't know exactly where I, where I can. come or lie on this issue, right? Because I don't know personally how far I believe we are advanced in this reverse engineering. The more I have studied and researched and whatever, there's a lot of evidence maybe to the point at the very least that we are decently advanced. I don't know that we're advanced enough to where you can say that we have people in these craft that we're seeing. but I think that we could potentially have advanced drones to be like to go from from here to nowhere and an instant.

I do think that we could potentially be that advanced. Probably or maybe I would guess. But here's the thing. As he says here, we have we have these state actors, these dark budget programs that they according to dr step greeer they are setting up this scenario to where you need to be concerned about these alien uap UFO phenomena is that the reason they're starting to become more public about it

and if so how are they going to use that to take away more of your freedoms by saying that oh we have to make sure that we are completely in control of our people of our thing because we have a real threat to our world and humanity. Lockdown. The aliens are here. You got a lockdown in your houses. Yeah.

It's nuts. And I know that sounds crazy, but like, you know, there's a lot of people that are saying, like, these people really may fake an alien type invasion to make you believe. Look, this was in Project Bluebeam where they talked about. We're going to fake an alien invasion. You know, and they want, they even want to potentially use this technology to fake. a a Christ type coming, right? Of or, or there's also been the, I guess the theory of is that if the rapture happens to where Jesus comes back or God comes back, he raptures his people, then what they want to use this technology for is to then tell the people remaining that, hey, guys, aliens abducted all these people, but we're going to save you from the thing, even though that's actually your, your big issue.

anyone that's still left whoever is still left they want to be the god but there's also the fact that they can use that what's it called holograms or whatever they can use that holograms yeah against us yeah yeah that's the savior right that's weird but i think you're going to know when god comes back i mean we're i hope we do that's the thing that i want to know i want to know when the real god is here i want to know that i know this guy's faking this guy's fake and this guy's fake but that's the real because it scares me so much that, you know, I don't want to follow the wrong God. Well, I want to play this last clip to you. It's not last.

It might be. It could be the last. This is Hitler's Nazi rocket scientist, Warner Vron Braun's Deathbed Confession to Carol Rosen on the false flag fake alien invasion. And I want to play this clip because this is pretty interesting. And this is essentially what we're talking about as far as how they may fake a alien invasion. invasion. Here you go. One of the biggest bombshells at that 2001 press conference was the testimony of Carol Rosen, an aerospace executive who worked beside Werner von Braun, the Nazi rocket scientist who came to America after World War II to work for NASA. Carol received his deathbed

confession, a testimony so terrifying that we spent the last 20 years trying to warn about it. Now here was Van Brown sitting at a desk when I first met him explaining to me that he was told he only had three to six weeks to live, but that he was going to stay alive long enough to teach me what the real game is that's going on. And it started out when I was in the industry, the Russians were the threat. We had to build space-based weapons against the Russians. And then third world countries got nations of concern at that time. And then the asteroid threat, which I thought was kind of comical that we could just be. put weapons up there to shoot down or steer an asteroid.

And then it leads to the last card. And then he would repeat to me over and over. And the last card, the last card, the last card would be the extraterrestrial threat. He explained to me that there was a moment when we were going to be told that the extraterrestrial beings, that their craft were a threat and they were not. These craft that have come here are now not UFOs. They're identified flying objects. And we know that they have beings in them.

And we have witnesses here who have told you that they can shut down our missile silos. They can stop a rocket going into space that's a test. We have witnesses here who have worked in the classified departments who have the courage to come forward here to support what Bernard von Braun told me back in 1974 to 77. At the end, I said, and it's all a lie. Well, it's still all a lie. The ultimate dream of the dialectical war machine, the military industrial complex, is to have this war with a potential extraterrestrial civilization.

It's their dream of all the times. You know, you can roll into place, all the kind of stretchers of a national security state. You can spend literally trillions of dollars a year on massive military equipment, super high-tech equipment, et cetera. And so it's logical that they would use that as an excuse. And we do know from repeated examples of it, the utilization of a false flag operation to initiate a war

goes on over and over and over again. Our human family does that. The nation states do that. Hitler has done it. They dress up troops looking like some other neutral country they want to invade and have their own troops dress up like them and pretend they've assaulted somebody. and they rush in and attack that country.

So there you go. Now, I want to point out what she said here. This is Carol Rosen talking about Warner von Braun, a deathbed confession on the false flag, fake alien invasion. You know, she says here, he told me this would be one of the last plays. They're going to use a fake alien invasion to get complete control. Not only are they going to get complete control, they're going to use this for a trillion, trillion, trillion dollar money-making

military industrial complex scheme to make trillions of dollars. They're going to make everyone believe that these alien spacecraft are coming in. Don't trust them. Trust us. Listen, we're here to save you. They're here to kill you. This is what the narrative they want to put out there. Now listen, Carol Rosen, is she factual?

Is she correct here? If she is. If she is. And she actually was privy to this information. from 74 to 77 on braon, which was the Nazi scientist that came over to start NASA that really was heavily involved in a lot of this alien spacecraft type stuff. He said, look, the end game is for them to try to create a false flag event

to make the people believe that there is an alien invasion type scenario to where you trust us, not them, we're on your side, and then therefore they're going to take away every single one of your freedoms. and as the last guy in this actual clip said, how many times has false flag events been used to create wars? It happens all the time. It does. I mean, it freaking happens all the time.

We've never done an extensive episode on 9-11. I know. That came to my mind right away. 9-11. 9-11 is a huge one. To be honest with you, potentially even this Israel. Amos War. Amos War, I think, was not necessarily a false flag.

I think it was a ignored flag at the very least. I think that, you know, you can't have, you cannot have Mossad, which is one of the most advanced intelligence agencies in the world, which is Israel's. I mean, they, they are, from what most experts will tell you, they are as advanced and as specialized as our CIA. As our NSA. And for them not to know that attack was coming, they knew. They knew because they wanted the war.

They wanted, well, or someone did. Someone wanted the war. Someone told them to hold off. Hey, listen, guys, hold off. This is the way to get rid of them. We're going to fund the shit out of you. We're going to give you all these weapons. No matter who comes after you, if you want everyone to be destroyed around you,

listen, we got you, bro. You just let this happen. Look, it may be so many people that die. I don't know. But we're going to come. We're going to, we're going to support you. and we're going to make sure that, you know, it all looks cool when you just destroy everything in this region.

But I know they knew about these tunnels and these underground places way before this. Yeah, but they also, I mean, you know, Hamas has been planning this attack for months, but didn't you know, probably years. Yeah, I mean, they've been, they've been planning this for years. And they're growing up their kids to believe in this attack, this war. This is a war to help their people is what they're, giving their people hope that for once they're not going to be refugees and have their own homes and their own food, which I get all that. But, I mean, this is a whole different podcast.

Yeah, I mean, the thing is, like, there's been a lot of people that reach us as, hey, when are you going to give us a Israel Hamas update? And I don't know how we're going to go about that because I'll be honest, like, I have so many mixed thoughts on all this. Because if you're hearing what we're saying tonight about how false flags events can happen, how people really in the end, the people that are the powers that be, the people that make the most money off of wars, off of COVID, of all these things. It's not necessarily the government. These are the people, yeah, but it's both. I mean, yeah, they influence each other, particularly the elites and the globalists and the people that are really in control of the world, which are the, the bureaucrats, the people that are in big pharma, big military, big weaponry. All of these people are who controlled the world, right?

I mean, that's who controls the freaking world. Yeah, but we're saying that Israel should have known that was coming, but we didn't know 9-11 was coming either. But then there's a lot of people saying that's all BS. We knew that was coming. You know, there's a lot of speculation that we helped that happen. I mean, you know, there are direct connections to CIA, FBI, and the terrorist. I mean, these were, these were a lot of, I mean, and this happens a lot. I mean, Terry McVeigh and Oklahoma City bombing.

he was connected to... Yeah, we did a whole podcast about that. Yeah. So guys, I mean, what I'm saying is there's so much that we just don't understand. And I know what goes behind closed doors that we don't know about. Yeah. I want to play this clip too, because this is what Steven Gerr talks about, the universal piece. We must elevate our consciousness and spirituality beyond our religious divides.

And we have to see life as a singular. Like we have to start looking at things differently. We are so divided right now. We are literally so divided to where if you're not in this religion, if you're not Republican, you're not Democrat, you're not this, you don't believe in this, you don't believe in that. Stephen Greer has a message for that and we're going to talk about this. Here you go.

Now we have to have universal peace because we have other civilizations that are really here already observing us, reaching out to us. And so we're going to have to have this big quantum. leap more in our consciousness and in our deep spirituality. And I say spirituality and not religion because often people fight over religion. Right. You know, orthodox sort of religion. But I'm talking about something deeper that's more transcendent.

Yes. And before I was a medical doctor, I was one of the first meditation teachers. And after this near death experience and contact experience, I really wanted to learn how do you meditate? how do you transcend into this aspect of ourselves? It's this universal being, this deep aspect. Because when you experience that, then you see all intelligent life as a singularity as one. There is, I mean, yes, you'll see the differences,

which are actually like the different flowers in a beautiful garden. Oh, that's beautiful. But you see the life force within all the flowers. Yes. You see that. You see the life within it, the cheat. the energy, the prana. So I kind of feel like we all have to get to that level of understanding

or there will be no end to the conflicts. Yeah, I agree. I do agree with that, even though he is on some podcast with Demi Lovato. I know. She's such a weirdo. She's such a weirdo, though. That girl is such a freaking weirdo. But basically that's what he's saying is like,

we have to come together somehow. We do. And I think, and the reality is, I guess, If you look at it this way, let's just take this subject for a minute this way. What if the reason the government does not want to release what is actually going on with the UFOUAP phenomenon is because it would 100% make people in a mass consensus to come together? And what happens? And what happens when you have these evil dictators that are, that know about this in large part?

but then the people start to have the chance to understand, holy shit, like, they're putting the wool over eyes. Look how big this thing is that we have access to. And yet we have these people that are trying to hide this from us because they're evil. I mean, and so could that be the reason that disclosure is not happening with UFOs? Could it be the reason that they don't want to explain to you what this actual non-human

intelligence is? Because maybe that brings people together. Because listen, if you think 9-11 brought people together after 9-11 happened, imagine if you had a sentient, no, just a sentient being that's coming down, trying to communicate with us, trying to open up their dialogue with us and say that's God, right? This angels, whatever you want to call them. And they're here. They're trying to say they're here. They want to communicate. They want to have access to us.

They want to do all these things. There's been a lot of stuff out there that says the government is in communication with these things. I don't know. I mean, I would like to think that like these UFOs would destroy our government if they wanted to and maybe they could. But at the very least, I think maybe the reason they're hiding some of this stuff is because they don't want unity. Because I think more so than they're scared of us just going crazy about this. Going back to what Tucker said. I think they're more scared of us coming together.

Yeah, I think you're right. You know, Tucker said, and I get it, that maybe they don't want to disclose things because what would happen to our world. if we knew the truth. But what would it happen if we knew the truth is going to combine us and give us unity like you're saying. It's going to give us a force where we once can work together as a team. And they don't ever want unity. They want to conquer and divide.

Listen, you're 100% right. I think in my opinion about this, look, I think the one thing that we can at least bank on this. Everything the media and government hides from us is for, like, the things they're hiding for us. It's not for our own good. Yeah, no, it's actually, the stuff they're hiding from us is their own good. It's their own good. But they don't, yeah, it's the, yeah, it goes against their own good, actually.

Yeah. And it goes for our own good. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I get what you're saying. So whatever they hide from us benefits them, not us. Right. And so if they hide from us a deeper level.

of consciousness, a system or a or a or a way or a definitive thing that it that says, hey, we have this higher level of consciousness beings that are visiting us. They're literally trying to reach out in ways that we can't even imagine right now on physical forms and all this stuff and the government and media and whoever is involved in this are desperately trying to hide what they know about this. The only reason truly that they would hide this, especially if they have reverse energy in technology, in my opinion, is that they just don't want you to come together. They don't want you also to be able to overrule them because this is their, they believe

they are gods. Right. This is their, this is their, the earth is their God. Or sorry, the earth is their planetary, is their last planetary stand. And a lot of these people, I hate to say, are evil. Yeah, they are. And that's where you get good and evil. A lot of these people are, a lot of these people are.

A lot of these people know about death. They're scared of death because they know how evil they are. Right. They know that they're hanging on to a thread of life. Life only exists for them on this planet. And it goes back to what you're saying. Why are they doing that? Well, the number one thing is it's not, I guess it is power, but you're saying it's money.

I think it's both. It's both. It's both. Because you said I was wrong when I said power before, but I think it's power and money. But I want to ask you a question, though. not only these beings that we're seeing out there, because we've seen them. Everyone's seeing them.

Everyone's seen what? These beings. Not everyone's seen these. Well, a lot of people have seen them. What about the people that are not a part of the government? They just are normal people that are seeing things and they're actually like having visits. Normal people.

Yeah. What is all that about, do you think? I don't know. Like the dude we're listening to. Robert Bletso. Yeah, Robert Bletso, which I would play you that clip of the lady that he encountered. I don't know what that's about. Like, why does he, why is he cond?

And by the way, I believe 100% Robert Bletso's story. And what I will say to you guys is that I encourage you guys to go listen to Danny Jones' podcast with Robert Bletso. I do encourage you because at the very least, like I don't like the way he handled Ashton on his podcast at all. I think he was an asshole. And I think everyone saw that. But I don't also want to take credit for, you know, what he did. Well, he's not great on his interview with the other. No, he's not.

No. No, Robert Bledso is the only reason that interview was good. Yeah. Because if it was up to Danny, it would be a shitty interview. Right. So thank God for Danny that Robert actually talked. Because if Robert didn't talk, it would be awful. Right.

I actually watched this, I swear to God, last night when I was just like randomly, I was just thinking about so much stuff. And I just happened again on a podcast. And it's Haley, Haley Mathers, which is Eminem's daughter. You know, the daughter he referenced so much in his early songs. And now Haley has a podcast on YouTube. And so she brought on Eminem's brother, right? And I think he is the younger brother.

Yeah, he's a younger brother of Eminem. and he looks so much like Eminem, but God, he is the worst interview you could possibly ever get on. And it's like, you know, you see Haley Matter. It's just a, it's a thing.

It's like you want to see what Eminem's brother has a say about their life. And you want to see this cool stuff going on. And he's like, yes, no, yes, that's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is.

And so she has to like every, everything she tries to, everything she tries to like throw to him, it's like yeah yeah yeah she'll say he'll say like five words and it'll be back on her yeah we had christmas this one year and that was it yeah and it's like okay it's up to you again i'm like oh my god dude but anyways thankfully to god to danny jones by the way and and this is the same people anyone that is like hardcore about their guest they have no personality most of the time these people are like hey let's figure out a way to get the the most awesome people i got to say it's

easier when you have guests on god yes it is i mean to try to entertain people for i mean we're the hour and 50 right now which is crazy because i mean we've tried this podcast for four freaking days right but when you have guests on you can be like hey tell me about this let me ask you the questions and i'm going to listen yeah tell me about this and you talk for 20 minutes and then and then i'll ask you another question right tell me about this you know i mean it's so much easier it really is it's so easy when you have somebody to interview it is really hard and different And I just hope people understand like the difficulty that goes into podcast like that. Well, no, no.

Yeah, but the difficulty that goes into podcast without guests, right? I mean, because you have to have your opinions, your thoughts, your whatever. And people are going to judge your podcast solely on whatever you think about or believe about whatever you're talking about. And then if you don't agree with the host or the co-host necessarily, you got to worry about that stuff too. Like, you know, we got to keep that cool. let's go on or whatever, but you know, we don't agree with this thing. It's just, it's a hard line to

be on. I do want to encourage you guys, by the way. One of the things is, dude, it's like we don't care. We talk about the shit that most people don't talk about. They don't want to talk about the stuff we talk about. They will tow the line. They will make sure that whatever they say or however

they say it is going to be cordial and good with everyone. And so they'll do the safe subjects. They'll do the UFO stuff. They'll do whatever. And by the way, even on the UFO stuff, they'll be very UFO. They won't talk about spiritual. They won't talk about, you know, a lot of this stuff. We say whatever the hell we believe and think.

And so I encourage you guys, if you care about us and love us, please go and rate us good on whatever platform you're listening to us. If it's Spotify, if it's Apple, whatever. We have a battle on Apple right now. There are people that are consistently going to our Apple talking shit, whatever. And I think part of that is also because we've talked, you know, we kind of called out Julian Dory. And the Danny guy. and we're telling you to go watch his podcast. But so now it's so but I mean,

but now it's a battle and people just want to downgrade us and whatever. So guys, if you, if there's any way that you want to help us, please go help us by rating us. If there's anything you do for us, rate us good on whatever platform you, you listen to us on.

It helps us. And because listen, this is not easy. What we do is not easy. Mentally, it's not easy. Just with the whole process, but we want to do it for you guys.

And we love you guys so much. We, there's so many of you that are like, you know, some of you have reached out the past few days. It's like, where are you guys at? What the hell is going on? Are you guys okay? You just want to check on us because that's what family does.

Oh, of course. And I'm so glad that you guys do check on us. Yeah, I mean, you guys have done on Instagram, Twitter or Facebook. You guys have done it everywhere. And we're so appreciative of that. Yeah. And it's not like we're in my A. We've been trying to get this podcast out.

We have four days. It just is not working right. You know, and sometimes things don't work right. And you've got to figure out your craft. and figure out how to get beyond it. And finally tonight, I think we did it. So congratulations, Chad. I think, and you guys, thank you for letting us get this out there.

Well, I think part of the problem is, too, is that I think we feel like we, I don't know, it's just like as the years went on, we've got this weird thing about, you know, and especially ratings, like, I don't know, it's like we feel like we feel like we've got to be perfect, you know, or we got to be whatever. And we're not perfect. I'm not perfect. And it probably is probably more me. I don't know, but there's just so much because you want to get so much information on there.

And it goes back to the point of like, if we had expert guests in every single thing we talked about, it would be so much easier. But, you know, we just don't have that right now. Well, no more do. I think that would take away from our podcast because a lot of people want to be with us in the living room and we all want to be discussing together. Because I truly feel like when we're talking, I'm talking to all of you guys. those are all in the living room with us and we're exploring. And sometimes, you know, you can feel the tension or whatever when maybe we agree or disagree and we go on or whatever.

Or husband and wives. So you better get used to it. But you know what? We're all here together and we're all going to agree and disagree with each other. So that's part of being a family. Yeah, I want to play one more clip for you guys before we go because I think this is also very important to touch on. Here you go.

It's my personal belief based on a fair amount of evidence that they're not aliens. They've always been here. And I do think it's spiritual. That's my view. And again, it's not provable, but based on the evidence, I think. I'm with you. But I think if the U.S. government has, in fact, had contact, direct contact with these beings, whatever they are, I've already told you what I think they are, and has entered into some sort of agreement with them,

which is the claim of informed people. I would say, whether they're right or wrong, I can't say conclusively. But if that is true, I mean, it's a very, very, very heavy thing. A lot of people say interdimensional beings. I want to ask, are angels and demons, or how would you describe these beings? You know, these are, again, I'm getting into the realm of conjecture, so I just want to say that flat out. Entity? But one thing I know for a dead certain fact, having seen it, is that there is good and evil that we're being

acted upon at all times. And I think every person can feel that in himself. I mean, there are moments when you are moved to do things that are much better than you actually are, and they're also more evil and destructive than you actually are. You are subject to forces from outside yourself. That is absolutely true. Now, we can argue about what they are, but every person in the room, if he's reflective, will tell you, yes, I know what you're talking about. And so there are forces that are not human, that do exist in a spiritual realm of some kind, that we cannot see,

and that when you think about it sort of make you think we live in an ant farm right and that's just that is real all right so I wanted to end this episode with this guys what Tucker Carlson says here and I think it explains a little bit

about earlier when we're talking about what did they mean by deep dark and then how can we explain spiritual literally what we are freaking here and here everybody is the existence of everything that has ever been known, even though you may have one religion of this

religion, of this religion of this religion, I think that the spiritual realm of what we have always kind of known through biblical text, whether or not you agree with all of it, some of it, or none of it, but you've heard it. I believe what we're actually seeing here is a spiritual realm of a, but almost like a battle. That's why I think we also have a, Abductions or Abductions that are not good. And by the way, you can also classify those as, you know, we've heard about like the Exorcist, right? Yeah, the movie. We've heard about demonic possessions.

And I think maybe you can explain actual possessions of a demonic entity as far as an alien abduction. Yeah, it's alien. That probes and does these horrific things to people. And gets into somebody's soul. Absolutely. And takes over their body. But then you also have experiences that are good, pleasant, transcending experiences, higher consciousness experiences. And I think it all depends on your soul, your level of consciousness, where you're at.

But at the very least, I think we're really seeing manifesting in scientific real time, godly type spiritual beings that are here on this earth and they're making their self known. and I'm just telling you guys, this is why we're doing the biblical series. I don't give a damn what anybody says. You cannot disconnect the UFO phenomenon from God and spiritual realm because this, I believe, is what we're seeing. And I wanted to get into this. Unfortunately, we did not. But I want to make this point, too, is the DMT. You know, this is a natural drug that even dogs have more than we do.

We naturally produce it. Right. We have it in our brains, but we don't produce a lot of it. Dogs produce way more. That's why they have a six cents. So does a lion. They know when a storm's can come before us or whatever. But when we take extra of this into our systems, I think it does put our souls out there into another dimension.

I think that's totally real. Absolutely. And I think we have to like know that this is. a way to open your brain up and to experience things that we normally can't with just our small brain that we're using. I agree. You know, just 10% of it. I agree. You'll me tell you a good example of this. I don't know if people are going to think this is crazy. So we have Live 360, right? Live 360 is a GPS app. We have it for you, me. You see where I'm at. You're, yeah. And by the way, we don't do that because we're like psychos with each other. No, we do that because of safety reasons.

Like we just want to know where each other are. Oh, because you better imagine being kidnapped and you don't even know because you don't have live 360. That's stupid. Or something, yeah. Right. So we always have that and we have a faith, you know, we know where she's at. And it'll even tell you like if she gets an accident or whatever the case is.

But it's funny because sometimes when you're on your way home or whatever and I will, I will watch you leave in school because it'll like notify me, left school, right? And I'll, I will see that. and it's so strange I'll be upstairs I'll be on the computer working and do whatever whatever

and about I don't know probably three minutes from the time you're home Maverick will get up our Beagle he'll get up and he'll go the steps

and it could be any time because you come on at different times it could be 340 it could be 4 it could be 430 doesn't matter but about two minutes

before your home Maverick gets up he goes to the stairs and he's waiting. And literally, I will, I have, I've, I've, I've, I've watched you on Life 360 coming down the road. There's no way he knows that you're like a mile away still. Right.

And he's like hyperfocused. He knows you're about, he knows you're about to be there. Yeah. He knows. And so there, there's no way that you can possibly say that there's, how else would you explain that? Yeah, you're not like saying mommy is going to come home soon. No, no, no, even, no, I don't say that at all.

I mean, I have said that before, right? But I'm saying he knows even without me saying anything. I'll act the same way. I'll do the same things, you know, whatever. And he knows. And I don't know what it is. I'm just going to tell you guys when this dog, like when I come home, every day is so sweet. And that's why I love my beagle so much.

It's almost like he's like in like this squealing like happiness to see me every day. And it's a day after day. It doesn't matter. But he's just so happy. And I just, it just makes me feel so good. Well, this dog pisses me off so bad. Oh, I love him so much. Like, I just want to get dog kisses everywhere.

I mean, he's loving, but he's also such an asshole. Yeah, he's mean to our other dogs, but I still love him. He is such an asshole. He is such an asshole. I don't think there's anything else we need to play. But I just want to, I want to leave this episode with this. I'm telling you guys that something is enrapp. that is going to be unmistakable.

When these people say that what they know may completely disrupt our mental capacity and state of mind, that I'm telling you, I think that's not bad. It's good. It's good if you believe. It's good if you believe in God and higher power. That's what I will say. And by the way, I have been so back and forth on this stuff. I've been saying, not the UFO thing.

I've just been back and forth with religion. I've been back and forth with spirituality. Yeah. Faith, everything. And it's killing me inside, to be honest. It's hard to do it. I'm not, I'm not, I'm just saying. We both have had kind of breakdowns about it.

I have been battling with this, like hardcore. And I've been battling with them mentally. And it's screwing me up on a daily basis. And so some of you guys have reached out and said, you know, hey, where are you guys at? Are you okay? We're not necessarily okay. Yeah, we're battling stuff.

podcast like three times finally we got it though you're battling stuff right now guys we are that is one thing that can be relaxed about now yeah watch we listen this through and it's like yeah we sound like robots it would not surprise me um but i also feel like i will say this and brie brie says this by the way and i encourage you guys by the way if you've ever listen to brie go listen to brees in times now podcast with brie she does a great job with breaking down the Bible and on a deeper level than we don't know anything than we can ever do yeah we don't know that stuff but I encourage you get a listener and and she's she's great but one of the things Bree always says is like she always says you know we have these

issues she's like oh yeah something is battling you yeah you got to pray about it well it's not even that it's just she says something is battling you and she told it by the way she told us this normally evil is battling you. She told us this from before. We even said that we were going to start really talking about the Bible or spirituality on our podcast where we reach millions of people around the world.

She said, you just better get ready. And literally it has happened. I mean, it has. It has been happening mentally. And it's a burden that I'm willing to carry and we're willing to carry to make sure that we figure it out. And by the way, I'm not saying we're going to figure out for you guys. It's just something we're going through

together. with you guys and who i mean there's some of you that are going to be like man i know everything there is to know about everything great and i'm proud of you guys and i'm happy for you but sometimes figuring stuff together is really hard because sometimes you don't always agree and it's you know it does cause issues sometimes but it's important to have those issues to figure it out i guess yeah so one of the things i want to do in the future very soon is i want to try we actually have a an experience lined up. We were going to do it a few months back,

and I need to get back with these people. I want to do it in the spring, and I want to go back out in the ocean and try to find these crafts. Now, what if these crafts are versus your U.S. government stuff? They're going to come and abduct us and put us in prison.

Probably so. We're probably in a prison underground somewhere. And we're like, shit. This is not God. Yeah. This is like the government. These are these assholes in Locky mott. Yeah, there's fucking assholes.

And they, but, but listen, but I also believe still that Stephen Greer is right that we have all three things going at once. We have higher consciousness, these beings, and we are reverse injuring. Here's my last point. I don't think we are as advanced or we have not reverse engineered to the level of these beings. I don't give a shit when anyone says. We are, we are not there. That's your opinion, though. I know, but that's my 100% opinion.

I will say that right now. We are not that advanced. And the reason why I say that is because if we were... We would rule the war. We would. And there's no way that the United States would not take advantage and manipulate that. Yeah. Any power you give bureaucrats and politicians and these assholes that are in control of this,

they're going to use it. And they're going to use it for bad. They're not going to use it for good. They use it for bad. Just assume, by the way, guys, is that everything that happens on behalf of people that are in control of government, is more than likely bad. So that's why we're desperately trying to figure out this phenomenon. Right.

And listen, the last thing Tucker just said on this podcast was that we believe these are spiritual beings. And look, you better be ready, guys, because these spiritual beings at one point in time are going to get fed up with the bullshit. These people that are trying to play God are trying to do to us as people, as humanity. And that's all I got to say. We're going to leave this, by the way, with Storm, with a song Storm. But I just want to tell you guys, like, the amount of six-cent a dog has, they already know the podcast is over. So they're waking up, they're coming up. Yeah, they do.

They're rolling around. Like, they know that the podcast is done. That's weird. And we're at two hours, but you're right. But they know. Yeah, they're here. They're ready for us to be done. They know.

I don't know what it is. So Marley and Maverick says. you know, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, happy religion, happy, holidays, whatever you,

like experience, like happy anything. Absolutely, guys. But listen, the name of this song is Storm by Amaru. This is an Afro beat song. I encourage you guys

to go check out some Africans type style. I mean, the choreograph dancing is amazing. Go check those kids out. They do an amazing work and they fund their communities.

And help their communities. Yeah, and drink water because of what they're doing. dancing. So I do encourage you guys do that. Guys, until next time, we absolutely love each and every one of you. We got so many episodes coming out. We got a lot to talk about. So stay tuned. Until next time, peace out. Peace out, guys. Better days around the corner. All the pain are the stronger. Yeah. Keep on surviving.

In this war for the reason. Now we change in the season. God started to clear up. We've been waiting for life. Never giving up the fight no Start a countdown right now About to take off Yeah It's hot time to rise up Right now

We've been down for too long waiting for a come up Or the payment are stronger Yeah We aim for the long run Keep on surviving In this walk for no reason Now we change in the season

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