Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcast | UFO Congressional Hearings This Week

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

This week, an unprecedented event unfolds as congressional representatives boldly demand government officials to disclose the truth about UFOs and their potential reverse engineering. Three distinguished witnesses - David Grusch, Ryan Graves, and David Fravor - will step before the House Oversight Committee to share their invaluable insights from their time as military pilots and high-ranking government officials. The nation eagerly awaits a long-overdue revelation regarding UFOs. Will there be new revelations or more of the same? “We’ve requested documents, we’ve gone to interview pilots and been stonewalled by our Pentagon. It’s ridiculous; it’s been going on since the ‘40s,” the Republican from Tennessee said Saturday afternoon on Fox News. “We are taking the gloves off.” We discuss all of this and more on this episode of UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcast | UFO Hearings Incoming

She mixes the pineapple. Hello and welcome back to Investigator's podcast. I am your host Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hey, guys. What's up? Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show, guys. That is O-A-R, just like Paradise.

We do have another reggae song for you to start this, man. And it's a great, great song. Great group. The reason we're playing that one, actually, is OAR is coming to Simpsonville, South Carolina, which is decently close to us. And they are opening for the Goo Goo Goo Goo Dolls. For those that remember who the Goo Goo Goo Goo Goo dolls are, man. They had so many hit songs back in the day, especially like mid-90s, late-90s,

early 2000s. It was huge. And so now OER is open, definitely got to go to that show. That'll be so much fun. And what if we go to the show and there's actual UFOs in the sky? That would be cool. I think OER actually does have a song about UFOs, if I'm not mistaken, or says something in the song about UFOs. But I found it funny that there's a line in that song. There's two lines in that song, but one line says, when the clouds leave, we can get together. Man, I was so burnt at the beach last week. The clouds had to be there for us to get together. Because the tops of my feet were literally almost blistering.

My neck was blistering. Like, it was miserable. That's why you don't go to the beach as a white boy, white boy and stay in the sun for like seven hours. Yeah, because you become a red lobster. And then you just shed off your skin like a snake. I know. I've been shedding skin recently now. So anyways, guys, welcome back to the show.

We have a lot to talk about on this episode. And, you know, he also mentioned rum, which I'm not drinking right now. I'm actually, what is this, three, four days. I'm trying just not to drink at all for a while. I've had some major stomach issues. And so let us know if this podcast is worse or better. And I'll just say, I'm not drinking a glass of wine either right now. So let me know.

And if I miss up, you know why. Yeah, well, same, same here. All right, guys. So on this episode, we are going to be talking about the U.S. Congress that is holding the UFO hearings this week. It's actually going to be this Wednesday, 726. Today, when we're recording this, is July 24th. So we got two days for these hearings. Now, all over social media, especially Twitter, UFO Twitter, or I don't know if you can call it UFO Twitter anymore, because it's technically X now, even though it's funny because we tried to record this last night.

It didn't work out for a lot of reasons. But anyway, we want to go there. And so I actually made a joke last night and said, I wonder if it's going to be called UFOX now. Yeah. And today I was on Twitter and it said UFOX. That was the trending. Yeah, it was one of the trending things. So it's weird.

But anyways, there's been so much talk about what's going on or what could potentially go on in these hearings this coming week. Tim Burchett from Tennessee is actually heading up this committee or this group of bipartisan congressmen and women. You know, and honestly, it's one of the first things that Republicans or Democrats have gotten together on in so long is nuts. But the crazier thing that we have to understand is that not only is this committee meeting this Wednesday going to be historical just for the history of the United States and really the history of the world, but the actual press conference where these representatives came forward and talked to the media about what they were trying to achieve in this committee. hearing as far as disclosure goes was also nothing short of historical. I mean, now we've had past presidents and past administrations and some people within government speak out about aliens or the existence of aliens or whatever. There's also been a lot of either conspiracy or rumors about various presidents that possibly had a lot of information on UFOs. I mean, you think back to

Project Blue Book and you think back to, I mean, even people referring to. into like Nazi Germany with the Hitler regime and some of the technology that was coming out of Germany back then. Now, although I don't think that they reverse engineered a UFO, I do think though that they used either the shape or some of the actual architecture of UFO craft to try to build their own flying saucer because they actually did have something similar looks to flying saucers. I remember seeing that black and white picture in Germany of this thing that looked just like a flying saucer. Absolutely. And it's nuts. I mean, and you know, guys, obviously this UFO topic has been heavily talked about, especially the past two or three years.

But we have to think back on how long there has been potential sightings of UFOs. I mean, you think Roswell was a long time ago. The 40s is not that long ago, right? We've had potential UFO sightings since time began. There has been cave drawings of what looks to be UFOs are alien-like creatures. A lot of people connect the pyramids. with potential UFO technology. There's sculptures, everything.

Yeah, there's so much stuff. And then there's also a lot of these architects and geologists and all these other people that have been coming forward as of recent that are basically saying the dating of Earth, or at the very least, they don't believe that this civilization that we live in now was the first civilization on Earth. They believe there were various civilizations on Earth prior to the civilization we live in. Therefore, rendering the question was a. civilization prior to us,

way more technologically advanced than we are that just happened to get off the planet during or before a catastrophic disaster of whatever, whether it be a comet, ice age, solar flare, massive volcano. Was there an advanced civilization

and got off planet first? And then was able to either come back or is there a civilization living in this planet somewhere that also could be potentially pointing to what these UFOs could be. And there's obviously always been the speculation of are these crafts and are these beings from an interdimensional realm rather than all just physical? They could actually be both physical

and interdimensional. So there's so many things. Yeah. And it's so crazy and hard to really think about how can something be interdimensional or how can something be physical and interdimensional at the same time? Yeah. Like really think about that. That's just crazy. Yeah. I mean and I think the thing with the interdimensional deal is is that oftentimes, you know, science is now, and we've talked about this extensively in previous podcast, about interdimensionality and just the possibility of interdimensional travel, interdimensional beings. There's been so many things we've talked about. And I encourage all of you, if this is your first UFO episode of listening to us, please go back and listen to our other UFO episodes. We have tons of them. That's been a

heavily talked about topic on this podcast as something we're very passionate about. But, you know, science is now moving closer and closer to proven other dimensions. I believe CERN itself has proven past the fourth dimension, fourth being time. We've talked about them many times, but there has been speculation. There's been rumors. There has been talk among the science community, especially in China and other places that they have proven up to 10 dimensions, which is something that we can't really comprehend to wrap our minds around. No.

If we can't even wrap our minds around the fourth dimension, wow. Could you imagine the 10th? Yeah, exactly. And so there's going to be a part of this episode, by the way, that we are going to talk about towards the end, if I remember it, and I hope we will, because we want to prelude this episode also to an episode we're going to do tomorrow with Bree. For those of you, they remember Bree, Bree, was on some of our previous podcast where we talked about some of the spirituality side of it. We've talked a little bit about interdimensional. We've talked a little bit about aliens. And so she's going to be on tomorrow night, which will be released at some point in time tomorrow night.

and then towards the end of this podcast, we'll talk a little bit of something that someone said around this topic, a famous person and someone that's pretty popular in the realm of UFOs and the UFO, UAP community about what his thoughts are on this and why maybe the government doesn't want to release what they know, although I disagree with him, which is also what we're going to be talking about tomorrow night. And you've got to think about all this stuff is coming out

because we now have new technology where we can actually take pictures on our own with our phones and, you know, have really good video that we can take. So it's harder for them to hide it now. Yeah. Sherry's right. I mean, there's so many, almost everybody has a smartphone. And we are actually starting to see a lot more videos or alleged videos of potential UFOs. I mean, these are people that are capturing this on their phones.

Some of it's at night. Some of it's in the plane of day. Many of these videos have been looked at closely by video Xx. experts and others, and a lot of these videos appear to be real. Actually, I want to talk to you about something real quick, though. I had actually seen this tweet today, and this actually was, there was quite a few people in Alaska talking about it, but people were asking what was going on in Alaska. And apparently, there was some type of UFO activity that's been going on over the skies of Alaska,

over the past week to where there were many Alaskan residents that were reporting fighter jets scrambling around potential UFOs or there were people even reporting sightings of UFOs in the skies. And then they would quickly not long after that see fighter jets scrambling to try to intercept or whatever the case was. But then there was also a lot of people that said that something was weird looking in the sky as far as it almost looked like some type of weird defense system, almost like a graph or something like that. in the sky over Alaska. And I've actually researched this. There's been quite a few people talking about this. So not sure what's going on there. And I just wonder if any of them, like, captured it on their phones.

Because we kind of had a similar experience in our backyard when we saw military jets and what we thought looked like UFOs. And we did try to video it. And it's so hard because they're so high. Yeah, they're so high. And when it's dark, it just kind of blends in with the stars. So it was really hard for us to capture anything. Yeah.

And we actually have an episode on. that our UFO experience. It was crazy that night. As much as we love UFOs, we don't go out and make up stories or doing any of that stuff. We all, you know, we often look at the sky. Sherry and I many times at night because we do live

in an area to where we have areas of land that we can get to, right, to where it's pretty dark. You can see the sky. It's wide open sky. And so there are many times or many nights we will go in the middle of a field and with minimal lights and we will look at the stars

all night. I mean, four or five, six hours. And so we've done that many times. We have seen quite a few weird anomalies and things in the sky at times. And I think that's also part of the problem is there's just not a lot of people, too, that typically look up, especially at night, to where they can see things that are not, you know, that are new. I'm not talking about space-linked satellites.

I'm not talking about any of those satellites. You can tell a big difference because when things move completely out of the ordinary, when they go from straight to left to right, or there was a very weird experience we experienced one day and this was in the, it wasn't even dark yet, it was still light, but it was getting to be dark and it looked like some type of time warp that it was like, it was almost like whatever this thing was stuck in a time warp

and it was going from point A to point B and it kept disappearing and then it would come back and then next time it would move a little to the left and it would go from point A around where it started beginning and then go about the same place and disappear. And this just kept happening for like 30 minutes. And it would move and go in different places. And I was like, what in the hell? It looked like it was stuck in a loop or something.

It seemed like it could have been something that would be what you would expect to see if it was interdimensional kind of stuck. You know, I've heard of people seeing like birds. That has happened like to birds when they see them in the sky. Like something messed up in the matrix. Like it's a little glitch going on back and forth. Yeah, like a glitch in the matrix. There's a lot of people that talk about that and share videos and pictures. There's a lot of weird anomalies on Earth.

And especially the, it seems like, I don't know, it's like every year they're getting weirder. Every year there's more anomalies. And every year we're getting more signs of something to come potentially. Or we don't know, but there's a lot going on. And then at the same time, we have the world, which seems to be around us crumbling and going in the opposite direction of where you would think that a smart civilization, I don't know. I'm sure these aliens would not call us smart. but from where we came from to where we are now, we are pretty technologically advanced and smart,

or at least should be a lot smarter than we are. And unfortunately, it seems like we're going backwards. We're banning a lot of things that we shouldn't that could actually progress us towards the future faster. And then you got all of this bureaucracy with compartmentalization of government to where you have two or three people that can work on this, two or three people can work on that,

but they can't talk to each other and they're not allowed to speak about it, and they're not allowed to talk to the public. there's so many things that we are hampering ourselves from advance and further, and that is one of our biggest flaws. That's what many scientists believe as well. But when you have bureaucracy, like the government, the government is literally the worst thing as far as technology, medicine, and even the UFO thing. I mean, it really is.

Yeah, and I think you're right about the being departmental. Well, compartmentalized. Oh my gosh. There's my first mess up. Compartmentalized. There's my first mess up, guys. It's all good. Anyways, because when we're not working together, we can't really get it all done together.

And if you take it a step farther, you know, we're not working with other countries. We're actually pretty much working against other countries. Yeah. Yeah, and that's something big we're going to talk about. I mean, you know, is a lot of the reason why we're not fully disclosing what we actually have or have access to? Is it because of the fact that we are in a race to this technology? And, you know, obviously, I don't think the United States is the only country that has had or has, downed spacecraft in their possession.

I guarantee you this has happened. There's been many reports of Russian military, potentially shooting down UFOs or craft in the past. There's been reports on that in China. Obviously, Russia does not have this technology because, you know, look at them in Ukraine. Right. And China, you know, wouldn't either,

I'm going to let Tim Burchett say that in just a little bit. He actually mentions that as well, but I agree with him. So from space.com, they say the chorus of voices calling for the U.S. government to spill the beans on possible alien visitation of Earth is louder than ever,

but are we ready for such a revelation? So if you follow the complex and perplexing world of undenified flying objects, now tied to the term unidentified anomalous phenomena or UAP, then you're aware that we may be inched towards full disclosure. What that means is in corking the bottle

filled to the brim with an elixir of truth, says Disclosure activist, that Earth has been on the receiving end of exotic craft of off-world origin. Even more, there are allegations of a covert U.S. government reverse engineering program set up to essentially write an operator's manual on how these alleged anomalous vehicles function. Now, the drumbeat that the U.S. government is ready to spill the beans on possible alien gust, or sorry, guess to Earth is louder than ever. But whatever it's next, next year or next decade, what are the social consequences of first contact? Or at least some outing of historical records document evidence of visitors from afar. Are we ready for such a revelation? And there appears to be debate on what the ripple effects might actually be.

Now, full body contact, according to one recent public poll, and majority of those sampled believe that the government may be covering up the truth about UFOs. Other polls have found that most Americans believe in intelligent life beyond Earth, and indeed poll data shows an uptick in thinking over the years that there is an off-earth population of aliens frolicking about out there in an extraterrestrial ether. But given the specter of full disclosure, are we ready for full body contact? Now, they also go on here to say better data is needed. Quite a bit of work has been done on the societal impact of discovering radio signals from extraterrestrial. beaming a message from a planet

circling a distant star, said Stephen Dick, an American astronomer an author noted for his work in the field of astrology or astrobiology. And it quotes, but that is very different

from the consequences if they are actually here in the form of UFOs or UAPs. Science fiction tends towards the dramatic Dicktoldspace.com. And he says, I find it unlikely

that the U.S. government could keep a secret of this magnitude for this long. I am all for the study in the anomalous phenomena of UFOs and UAPs, but I am not convinced by the blurry Navy videos that these are spacecraft piloted by ET or even ET related artificial intelligence. We need better data.

Dick advised. Dick sounds like a dick. I'm just kidding. Had to do it. I know. I had to make that joke. Thank goodness. So anyways, Dick sounds like he has no idea what he's talking about.

But I don't know. We'll get back to that. But I do want to, before we get any further, I want to play the press conference. Now, the actual press conference is not very long, but I want you to hear what Tim Burchett and his colleagues say in this press conference, because, as I said, I do believe this press conference is very historical. This is something that we have not heard of or seen any representatives from the government ever come out and say, really, say that, hey, we're going to find the truth about UFOs,

and we know they exist pretty much. but I want you to hear what Tim Burchett has to say in this conference, and then we will go from there, here you go. Ready? We're good. Need a white balance? Everybody good? We don't do that anymore. All right. Is this thing on? Right on. Thank you. I want to thank you all for being here today. I'm Tim Burchett from Tennessee's second congressional district,

and we're going to have some rest of the Congress folks are going to fill in here in a second. next Wednesday, July 26th at 10 a.m., the House Oversight Committee will hold a hearing on unidentified anomalous phenomena, UAPs. I prefer to call them UFOs. It will be held by the Oversight Committee on National Security, the Border and Foreign Affairs. The witnesses will be as follows. David Grush, he's a decorated former combat officer who served in Afghanistan, and he recently told the world news about his experiences serving on a UAP task force led by the U.S. Navy from the U. 2019 to 2022. Commander David Fravor.

He's a former Navy commander who shot the famous Tick-Tac video that you've seen. It's on YouTube. It's 60 Minutes to the special on it. He did that in 2004 during a routine training flight over the Pacific Ocean. Ryan Graves, he's a former Navy pilot. He reported multiple UAP encounters during training flights. An interesting thing about Ryan was that he warned the Pentagon that these encounters are putting our pilots at risk.

He attended the hearing held by the House Intelligence Committee last year, but it was not allowed to speak. If you all remember, he wasn't even allowed admittance. He had to have someone gave him press credentials to get in, which I thought really stunk. Last year, the House Intelligence Committee held a hearing on UAPs. They brought in some Pentagon bureaucrats who only had two answers to the questions they were asked.

I don't know or that's classified. This hearing is going to be different. We are going to have witness who can, speak frankly to public about their experiences. We've had a heck of a lot of pushback about this hearing. We've had members of Congress who fought us. We've had members of the intelligence community and also the Pentagon. Even NASA backed out on us. There are a lot of people who don't want this to come to light. I've even tried to introduce an amendment to the Federal Aviation Administration read authorization bill. And all that would do would require the Federal Aviation

Administration to report UAP sightings by commercial pilots to Congress. The intelligence, I was told the intelligence community shut it down. This is ridiculous, folks. They either they do exist or they don't exist. They keep telling us they don't exist, but they block every opportunity for us to get ahold of the information to prove that they do exist. And we're going to get to the bottom of it,

Dadgummit, whatever the truth may be. We're done with the cover-up. I want to introduce my friend Jared Moskowitz. He has a legal and an incredible analytical mind, and he's a friend of mine. Jared. Thanks, Tim. Good morning, and I want to thank my colleagues behind me that we're all leading this effort

on a bipartisan basis. And ultimately, you know, it really is about getting to just greater government transparency. As Tim said, that, you know, when we ask these questions, if the answers are, there are no unidentified aerial phenomenon, then say that. But that's not what the answers are. The answers are we can't tell you. And so that leads to speculation. And so this is something that has undoubtedly captured the public's attention in multiple administrations.

And it's just finally time the U.S. government answer questions about what they know and when did they know it. Taxpayers are paying for programs that are keeping this information secret. They have a right to know where their dollars are going. And with claims coming forward, as technology is getting better, people are capturing things on their phones now, right? We need to know whether these things are they domestic, are they foreign, or are they something else, or do they not exist? And the government needs to have straight answers. And so the American people deserve to know the truth on this. necessarily censoring things or over classification is what leads to all of these theories

that have been out there. So again, I want to thank my colleagues behind me for their leadership. We look forward to having a productive hearing on topic on a bipartisan basis. Thank you very much. Our next speaker will be Representative Luna. She's from Florida. She is a military veteran, her husband's combat wounded veteran, and I'm proud to have her on our team. Representative Luna? Thank you, Bridgett. Good morning, everyone. For decades...

I wish I she's with child. Yeah, thank you, for decades. For decades, countless of Americans have questions our government's lack of transparency regarding UAPs in our nation's airspace. These same questions have been echoed by many leaders on a bipartisan basis, from Jimmy Carter to Barack Obama, from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump,

from Marco Rubio to Chuck Schumer, from the former director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, to current officials at the National Security Council. They have all called for disclosure of UAPs. If this was a court case, the court would be compelled to take up the thousands of testimonies, images, videos, and eyewitness accounts from doctors, pilots, scientists,

and active duty service members. The status quo on the part of the U.S. government has been to leave the American people in the dark regarding information of UAPs. They refuse to answer questions posed by whistleblowers, avoiding the concerns of Americans, and acknowledging, that the possible threat of UAP poses to our national security as well as public safety,

it is extremely unnecessary and an overclassification. If the last few months have taught me anything, especially in investigating this, it is that this issue is in the hands of the American people and they deserve answers. I just want to be fully transparent here. Myself, Representative Birchett and Representative Gates had attended an Air Force base, and we were blocked not only by the Pentagon but by the Department of the Air Force from seeing information talking to witnesses, and after much arm twisting, we got some of the information, but the fact is that they answer to Congress and thus the American people,

and any government entity that attempts to stonewall us is doing nothing in the invested interest of the American people. When I take a face value, the numerous road box that we've been presented with, it leads me to believe that they are indeed hiding information. I look forward to bringing this topic to light and finding out the truth of what is really out there. Next speaker, we represent Burleson. He and I traveled to our southern border a few months back, and we became really good friends.

He has a really love for this country, and he liked the rest of us, would like the truth. And he agrees with us that we need a lot of transparency. Representative Burleson. Thank you, Tim. Thank you for spearheading this effort. I'll start out by saying that I'm a skeptic on a lot of stuff. I come from a computer science background and finance background, so I tend to err on the side of things that I can see and touch. And I don't give to into conspiracies.

But too often the federal government works outside of the public eye. And conspiracies and rumors tend to flourish in places where the federal government is silent or not transparent. The American people deserve to know what their tax dollars are funding and what the government knows. That's just plain and simple. The other thing I think is important is that are servicemen and women who are risking their lives for this country and are encountering these devices? We owe it to them to find out what is in the air that might potentially harm their lives. What's disturbing is when you hear about the accounts of 14. near misses in air.

Next week's hearing is about transparency. Like many Americans, I read David Grush's story when it first came out and watched the TV interviews. I was struck by the sheer amount of detail. So I was able to contact him and hear directly from him in a lengthy phone call interview. And after speaking with him, I was convinced that the American people deserve to hear from him directly. That's why I asked Chairman Comer to hold this.

this hearing, and I'm grateful that the chairman has decided to hold a hearing so that we can ask questions and get the answers that the American people deserve. It is time for transparency, and I'll say one more thing. It's the responsibility of members on oversight to do. This is our job. This is exactly what our responsibility is. So I'd like to, again, thank Tim and my other colleagues for their leadership in putting this together. And I want to thank the chairman for his support. And that was the press conference with Tim Burchett and his colleagues. We're actually going to play here in just a few minutes, a very short clip of one of the questions and what their response was as far as what happened when they went to that military base, because it's very

interesting. But let's talk about this hearing, first of all. The two actual witnesses that they mentioned that are going to be attending this hearing on Wednesday is Ryan Graves and David Grush. Now, there is also Commander David Fravor that is now going to be joining this committee as well. Ryan Graves, as he was saying, was a U.S. Navy F-18 pilot that was, you know, he was on Joe Rogan, and he said, look, I was constantly, not just I, but my whole squadron and many other squadrons off the Atlantic coast, we were constantly seeing these UAPs. We were getting so close to them that, you know, as he just said, there was up to 14 near

misses with F-18 fighter jets. Now, this is obviously very dangerous to our pilots. This is dangerous to our military. Think about how many commercial aircraft are in the air flying on a daily basis that has hundreds of people inside of them. And yet you have these UAPs out there that are, you know, basically going from zero to light speed in some cases. And yet the U.S. government, the FAA or whoever else has no control over these things. And it makes you, yeah. And it just makes you wonder, are they doing it purposefully?

Are they doing it on purpose? or is it just because they're coming in from another dimension or, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. It's just very curious to me, but that's a lot of near misses, and that's pretty scary for human beings. Oh, for sure. And, you know, it seems like, though, obviously that whatever these things are, if they're alien spacecraft, if they are UAPs, which I do believe they are, you know, it doesn't seem that they're going to be or they're here to attack us or hurt us. I mean, obviously these things, at least the way it sounds, has been here for years and years and years and years and years. And so if there were to have been an attack, we would have obviously probably known that.

Or if they wanted to attack us, we would have probably known that by now. But as Tim Burchett said as well, we've already had some of these UFO hearings to where they basically just brought in government bureaucrats to where they could sit there and say, nope, don't know, or I can't answer that or no, I don't know. or we don't have information on this. And it was just a way to get the public to shut the hell up. Right. I mean, that's all it was. And I think that's why NASA is saying that they're not even going to come. So they don't have to just say no, no, no to all the, you know, the questions.

Yeah, I mean, the fact that NASA and the Pentagon are blocking their employees from attending this. Obviously, that means, number one, that NASA and the Pentagon had employees that wanted to come forward and they wanted to be whistleblowers or they wanted to talk. But obviously, the Pentagon and NASA both holding back their employees saying, you are not allowed to go. go, probably more than likely threatening them by saying that if you go, you're fired or whatever, or you violate your top secret clearance or you violate your NDA or whatever all these things are. You have to understand that anybody that has firsthand knowledge, especially in Nassar or Pentagon, more than likely has a top secret clearance.

So when they go out in Congress and talk about this in the public, that would be violating most of what their top secret clearance says you cannot talk about. Yeah, and it's just interesting that, you know, them not letting their employees talk about it. Well, that tells you they're not letting them talk about something. It's not nothing. Yeah, exactly. So it's like the guy was saying, you know, just tell us if it's not there, tell us. But obviously, you're not telling us. So we know it's there.

We all know it's there. Yeah, now one of the ways, too, that they are hiding this, and I think they're getting away with it a lot easier, is because let me give you a good example. So in the Afghanistan War, for example, this is a good example. You guys might have heard of the private military organization or the government contracting group called Blackwater. Well, you had Blackwater and you had various other companies that were basically paid by the United States government. And according to the quote unquote government, their role over there was to protect dignitaries, VIP protection, stuff like this. But as time went on throughout the war, we found out a lot more about what Blackwater and other companies were doing.

That was very heinous. A lot of it was potential war crimes. They didn't really have rules of engagement because they were a contractor group. So it was something the government says, oh, well, they're not us. We have rules of engagement. We can't say anything. They're whatever. And so it's almost like these groups, even though a lot of people knew they existed, a lot of what they did was not known.

A lot of the heinous stuff they did was not known, except for the fact that some of these things did come out through whistleblowers within these companies. But almost everyone in a lot of these private military corporations or these companies that actually have to or have government contracts to operate within the government or have contracts with the Department of Defense or Pentagon, they're all put on classified status

to where they can't talk about anything, they can't do this. And if you do start talking about it, that's when you start disappearing. I mean, that's literally how, secretive this stuff is. And we know people disappear all the time. Oh, absolutely. Now, Lockheed Martin, for example, Raytheon. Now,

there's a lot of whistleblowers and a lot of it appears, you know, Tim Burchett and some of the other colleagues, the ones you just heard from, and other actual representatives inside the government have come board and said, look, we've talked to people that are within Lockheed Martin or within

some of these other companies that have said, I know that we're reverse engineering this stuff for the Now, when you think of the government whole, and a lot of people say, well, how could the government keep that secret or how would they keep the secret of their reverse engineering? The government is not necessarily reverse engineering. It is these companies like Lockheed Martin and these companies that already work on our fighter technology. They work on our weapons systems. They work on a lot of our most top secret stuff that we don't even know the weapons we have.

There's a reason why you have Area 51, Area S4. A lot of people think that all of those bases that are so top. top secret or just military people everywhere. They're not. There is a lot of officials, or not officials, there's a lot of employees from probably companies like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, all these private, you know, corporations. And probably Blackwater or whatever it's called.

Yeah, potentially. I mean, you never know. It's like the people that go to Area 51, when they get to that gate, they see guys in this black suburban. No, the white trucks. Yeah, the white trucks. And I don't think they're military. And some of them are Black Suburban's actually by Area S4.

And yeah, I mean, there's been speculation on that. They're called camo dudes, even though we don't actually know whether for sure that they are military or not. Some of them don't appear to have actually any military insignia on their uniforms when they're seen. So it's all very strange. And the reality is that a lot of times it is easier to contract companies for top secretive stuff like this, especially companies that have had longstanding top secret clearances and contracts with the government like Lockheed Martin to end like. like Raytheon and like all these other companies that are making F-22 fighter jets and the B-2 bombers.

And a lot of people believe that the reason that we got the stealth technology in the B-2 bomber and the F-22 Raptor and F-35 and all that, which is actually what the craft is made out of, a lot of people say that that particular technology is actually from alien spacecraft, the actual ability to invade radar, right? So we don't know for sure But then there's also been a lot of rumors Speculation and otherwise And also firsthand accounts Of people that live near These bases out in the Southwest That have seen direct type energy weapons

That have been tested in the middle of the desert I'm talking about these massive laser beams That are shot up in the space And this will happen ever so often It's almost like a plasma type laser Or something crazy like that And then you know in connection with that, some of these representatives that are kind of pushing for all this.

And you're going to think, this is not just the guys and girls that talked here. Now, you've got other senators and congressmen that are also heavily involved and been pushing for this. Like Marco Rubio, Marker Rubio has talked a lot about the UFO thing. He's actually on the House Intelligence Committee for the UFO stuff. And he has been a part of many classified hearings that we still don't technically know what's behind those classified hearings. But what we do know is the fact that whatever they've heard, they almost, without a doubt, know that these alien spacecraft exists. They are probably off planet, and they're not made here.

So I wanted to make sure I pointed that out. So it's a lot easier to compartmentalize things when you have these government contractor companies that are doing this and have been doing it for years. Because obviously they're not going to talk. If they do, they lose their contracts and they lose billions and billions of dollars. If you want to know, if you ever heard the conspiracy, the military industrial complex. Well, who runs the military industrial complex

is companies like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and all these other ones. They're similar in the shape and form of Pfizer and Moderna in the pharmaceutical complex, but they are the military industrial complex, and this is who drives the money to the government, drives the payouts to the politicians, and keeps people's mouth shut.

And, you know, it's pretty easy to do when you have a system set up like this to keep it secretive. So for the people that are like, well, how could the government keep this secret? Well, it's pretty easy. I mean, it's the same way that all the other very corrupt organizations and companies also keep secret. But they can't keep one thing secret. And one thing they can't keep secret is all these bases and these military bases,

when they are testing these things and reverse engineering these things, people see a lot of things in the sky. Is it the things that they're testing? Or are they real UFOs? Or are they both? Because in previous podcasts, we've always talked about, there's always sightings around military bases or especially nuclear areas. No, you're right. And around the ocean.

So, you know, these are real sightings. No, you're 100% right. I mean, it's definitely something very strange that has been happening. But I think we will get information on what is, you know, what is to come. Now, I'm trying to find here. What I'm actually going to play for you guys right now. This is Tim Burchett talking to Fox News about the Tick-Tac UFO. And this is him actually saying what he believes this craft could be.

And like I said, this is the guy that is spearheading this whole investigation. Here you go. You talk about the T-Tac video. Something's zipping around and you can hear the pilots on their mics saying, you know, what is that? This thing looks bizarre. You know, what do you think is out there? Well, it's clearly, you know, if it was rugged, They wouldn't be bogged down in Ukraine right now if they had that technology.

Of course, if it was China, they would control us more so than they do right now. If it was us, we would rule the world. And obviously, you're left with one other conclusion. It's something that's not of this world. Yeah, and I 100% agree with that. Now, this is something else. World views would change. Space.com also says, and we're going back to the Dick's opinion.

and that's literally what it says. And it's Mr. Dick. Disasterous first contact events with uncontacted cultures are not necessarily the best analogies. He said there are plenty of beneficial intercultural contacts throughout history, he said, such as trade relations going back to ancient times even beyond the Bronze Age. And he says whether contact is direct or remote and assuming we survive direct contact, I would say what is certain is that our philosophical and theological worldviews, change, said Dick. We should not expect extraterrestrials to solve all of our problems, but the

interchange of information would be very interesting. As for the question, are we ready? He says probably not. Dick says, but new fields of study like astro-theology and astro-ethics are laying out these options. There is some consensus that religions will survive, but in greatly altered form to take into account that we are not the moral center of the universe or the most intelligent beings. Some religions will be more adaptable than others, he said. Now, that's something else that we're going to talk about here in a little bit, but I don't agree with him on that. But John Elliott is a coordinator of the SETI post-detection hub within the School of Computer

Science at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. Now, Elliot sees the societal impact of discovering extraterrestrial life as a profound copernicc-niquan- whatever type moment of humankind. the impact is likely to be proportionate to its proximity to us and whether it is intelligent or not. It will be the confirmation that we are not the only life in the universe and our perceived central importance will receive a significant shift in perspective, he said. Also, such a discovery will indicate that life is probably common throughout the universe, Elliot said, to what extent extraterrestrial life is intelligent or has preceded us or is now extinct are other questions. Preparations for such an event is therefore not planning for just one possible scenario, but for many.

Now, I want to play now what one of the questions was from one of the reporters to Tim Burchett, and I want him to explain or want you guys to hear his explanation of what happened when they went to this military base. Here you go. Okay, well, and what Representative Luna and I experienced was our colleague Matt Gates was contacted by, some folks that said that some people would like to talk about some information, some things they'd seen. And we contacted the Air Force and we flew, we were told we were going to be briefed on this issue, the UAP, I like the UFO. And we got down there and it was the traditional skiff, James Bond stuff. You leave your phone, your Fitbit. We go in. And the

synopsis had nothing to do. It was some pretty big important. important stuff, but it was not anything to do with the UFO, and we stopped the thing rightfully right in the middle of it and said, hey, this is not what you all told us we were coming down here for it. And they basically told us, we're not going to give it to you. The arrogance of this general was beyond belief. The Pentagon, this is Department of the Air Force. It was a commanding, yeah, of course. It was a commanding general of Eglon Air Force Base. And ultimately, even before we got down there, the Pentagon actually tried to cancel the field hearing. And also, it's important to note that these were whistleblowers, these were pilots that had come forward to Representative

Gates' office with information saying this needs to be investigated. We have an increase in sightings in this region. And it's a cause for concern for national security reasons. We don't know what it is. So we went down there. We were stonewalled. They would not give us access to testimony from some of the pilots. They were hiding images and information. We were told there was pictures available, which we still haven't seen. And ultimately, what ended up happening is we had to actually call House Armed Services. Chairman Rogers got involved, the Pentagon got involved, the Department of the Air Force got involved. We actually got into an argument with the general of that base.

And it's important to note that we were there simply to follow up on the whistleblowers that came forward with information. And so if the Department of the Air Force, if the Pentagon thinks that they're above Congress, they have something else coming to them. We told them we were going to do this if they continue to hide information. And ultimately, the American people deserve the facts. And also, I'd like to make, for the record, numerous pilots have told us, and I'm sure they've told Representative Luna, that the, when they come forward with this, they're supposed to be provided some sort of whistleblower protection, but they're not. They'll, they'll, the brass will tell you they're debriefed. Well, they're interrogated for eight hours, I believe, at some point. Then they have a blemish on the record, and then they carry this stigma. And we've been actually told that they will destroy. video evidence because they don't want to have to go back in and have to be pulled off the

flight line for and be interrogated for eight hours. All right. So that was Burchett. You know, obviously they went to Eglon Air Force Base. So they were there were whistleblowers that were contacted and represented Matt Gates' office. And apparently these whistleblowers were pilots. These pilots were telling Matt Gates' office and the other or his colleagues that they were having an increase in sightings and potentially dangerous situations.

We don't know where exactly, but I guess what it sounded like, it was in a particular areas where they're starting to see these things a lot and they're getting more dangerous, and they wanted to be able to speak out and say something about this. Because, you know, if you're a fighter pilot and you have, you know, you've been, went through all of this training, you're in this multi, multi-million dollar jet, and your life is also in the line, and you have these things flying around you, which you have no idea what they are, and yet you can't get answers.

And if you do get answers, then you have a lot of backlash to face. I mean, those are all big issues. And this guy was an asshole. I mean, they even got in an argument with them. The Pentagon tried to stop the field meeting, but as they were going to the actual meeting. And if they're going to be that much of an asshole to the Congress people,

can you imagine what they are to the people that are coming forward and reporting these things? Yeah. I mean, like he said, they interrogate them for eight hours. Yeah. And it's not just the eight-hour thing. You know, you also have to think about, you know, the whistleblower protection is supposed

to be in place to protect the whistleblowers. But as they said, that's obviously, you know, that's just some BS thing that the government, the Congress, is saying that they're doing for these people. But the reality is that they're going to get punished. They're going to get their license stripped or demoted or or carry the stigma around for a long time if they do actually come forward. So what sounds like this whole whistleblower protection act, especially when it comes to the UFO topic, is not so much. Non-existent.

Yes, absolutely. And that's why we don't have more people coming forward. Could you imagine if there was something that was safe in place? Because before this, I always thought, well, yeah, now it is safe for people to come out and talk about it. You know, back in the 70s and 80s, if people said they saw a UFO, everyone thought they were crazy. And they did the 90s and 2000 as well. But now, recently, I thought it was becoming less of a stigma where people could come out and tell the truth about what they're seeing. But obviously, from this, that's not happening.

No, it's definitely not happening. You know, the thing is, too, is that we have to think about this. You know, as Birchett said there and what the whistleblowers at Eglin Air Force Base was saying was that they were having a lot more encounters or sightings, potentially dangerous encounters with these unknown craft that they did not know. know and were told that they did not know what they were as well. You know, commanding officers or whoever. And that kind of makes sense because it seems like that you have these high, I guess high impact areas, I guess you can, or high encounter areas. For example, Ryan Graves, I believe he flew a lot off the coast of Florida where he

encountered these things all the time. He said on a daily basis, they would see these craft. And sometimes they would come up in between the two jets that were flying side by side in formation. and damn near hit one of them. And it also kind of makes sense, too, because you have these areas of high UFO sightings, like South Carolina and North Carolina,

especially off the coast of North and South Carolina. Myrtle Beach is known as, like, one of the UFO most sight, I guess it's the cities with the most sightings of UFOs in the country, one of them. Yeah, and you think about all around the oceans, there's massive sightings, but I also think it could be because there's UFOs that possibly go. underground or in the ground, in the earth, and have bases there. As a matter of fact, Chad did a great presentation about one in California.

What was it, Santa Ana or something? Well, it was, it was off, it was, you know, there's, there's all those islands over there. Right. And, and so you have, and it's right off the coast of Malibu, it's actually where a terror in the sky documentary was filmed. And this is a very high sighting area. This is also where I believe Commander David Fravor and his group, his unit, where they actually caught one of the Tic Tac videos as well. They were just south of San Diego or somewhere in that area off the coast.

And so this is a very high encounter area as well. There's like a triangle, I think, of really high traffic where they are in this triangle. And it's so weird because everything's triangles when you think about UFOs for some reason. But go ahead, yeah. No, but I mean, and so one of the things in that presentation on our substack, which you guys can go check. check it out. And by the way, we are going to get back to our substack for those that want to know. We're working on video things with them because that's really the way we want to go with substack is video. But we cannot do that until they fixed our video, which hopefully should be someday very soon.

But anyways, on that video that I did, there is a type of base type structure that is off of the coast of Malibu. And you guys can find it on Google Maps. And if you go watch the video on Substack, you'll see it. But it's very weird. It looks like some type of map. man-made weird structure with columns. It is just so happens to be in this area of high UFO, UAP encounters or traffic. But it looks like an underground city or something.

Base or something. It looks made by something. It's not just by nature. But unfortunately, I don't think subs can go down that far. Well, that was pretty deep. That one sub probably, that's a bad. That's bad. That one sub could have maybe made it.

Well, I mean, I don't think it's necessarily, it is. It is a pretty good ways down. It was like a mile and a half, I think, or something. Yeah, I can't remember. But what I did do on the video, and you guys can check it out, is we measured the whole thing. We did all of that, just to show you how massive this is. And these columns, which looks man-made, it's pretty crazy to look at and see, and especially it being in that particular area. Now, I do want to, I do also want to play you one thing here as well.

This is from Redacted. It's actually a really good show. Dr. Michael Sala discusses what. happen as far as the government, this UFO thing, what are they really pushing for? And what may be the, I guess, what may be the actual effect of disclosure? Like what could happen here? So here you go. We won't reveal it here, but there are some videos that you and I have personally seen, which I think the rest of the country is going to see next week and just gives me chills to think about and I think it's going to be jaw-dropping for people to see this in front of Congress.

So I, for one, think, you know, we're not at inches anymore. I think we are seeing a major leaps forward. Even if the motivations are money at the end of the day for a lot of this coming forward, I think this is finally what it could open up for us in terms of health care and energy, zero point energy and all sorts of other things could be tremendous and earth-changing. I think it could help millions of people around the world who deal with famine, food supply shortage, all sorts of problems. I think this could have tremendous effects on that. Any final thoughts on that piece, Dr. Salon? Yes, I think that's really where we get the most hope from this legislation coming forward is that these free energy, these anti-gravity propulsion systems that insiders have

been talking about for years, that they are going to be released, that these farmers, or these alternative health, advanced health remedies, using holographic healing, using electromagnetic healing is going to obliterate the pharmaceutical industry. It won't stand a chance against that. But this is going to be necessary because space travel requires advanced space medicine because space is a very harsh environment. If you're going to have people, if you're going to have pilots and crew, manning hundreds of squadrons of anti-gravity spacecraft,

patrolling the moons of Jupiter that are all under space command. They're not going to pop pills if they get sick under radiation. They're going to need to have advanced holographic healing technologies, and those have existed for decades. So that is going to be now made open source, it's going to be released, and that I think is going to have tremendous repercussions for throughout the planet because people will now have access to real health technologies,

alternative energy and propulsion technologies. It's going to revolutionize our world. Yeah, and that's the thing I want to talk about as well. There's actually been a lot of people that have talked about this. But according to what some of these whistleblowers have told people through kind of the grapevine, right? And this is something that we were hoping to hear partially in this hearing, but as NASA and the Pentagon started backing out their people saying you cannot go, Well, some of the representatives in Congress had already heard some of these things that potentially what access we had to things from alien spacecraft or from these UAPs and UFOs that we have been reverse engineering.

One of those things is pharmaceutical or advanced healing technology, right? And this is something that has been spoken about. This is something that some representatives have talked about as well. And these things could be, like he was saying, holographic healing technology. that is an actual thing. Yeah, he said it actually exists. Yeah, it does actually exist. But, you know, one of the things that he pointed out there was it would destroy pharmaceutical industry because, you know, pharmaceutical, they're not going to have, they're not going to make the billions of dollars that they usually make.

Now you have some type of advanced space healing type technology. And it seems like that these rumors that we're hearing from kind of these whispers under Congress of, some of the whistleblowers they've already spoken to, seems like that's kind of what we potentially have access to, which, by the way, the government, by not coming forward, not disclosing this and not doing that, all you're doing is hurting your people. But as we know, especially on many of our episodes,

I just don't think the government gives a damn about us anyway. That's pretty obvious. I think that they think that the world is already too populated. So why do they want to heal everybody? Because if you start healing everybody, then you have a lot more people on Earth. and obviously I don't believe at all that the world is overpopulated. There's probably definitely some countries that may be overpopulated,

but in whole, the world is not overpopulated. But you have this technology. I've also heard that, and you guys can look this up, and I'm not 100% sure. I think Burchett was one of the ones that said it, along with some of the other colleagues, that said that one of the things that they had seen or witnessed to or had been told by a whistleblower that, you know,

because of these crafts that can bend space and time, which is essentially what they do, this is how they operate and move, that although a spacecraft may look like maybe, say, the size of this room, there have been images and even whistleblowers that have said and talked to some of these congresswomen and men about the fact that if you went inside of some of these craft, it was like sometimes potentially the size of a stadium.

Right. So although the actually... outside craft may look like a room size. The inside could look massive. And it's when you do, and if you have seen the videos, these things don't look that big in the sky. But could you imagine something being the size of a room? And then when you walk in, it's a size of three stadiums.

And you're saying it kind of bends time or whatever. I wonder if it uses some kind of frequency to do that. I don't know. Yeah, you're right. We don't know. And that's the thing. We have no idea. I mean, I'm sure everything, obviously everything is a frequency.

We did a podcast on the Schumann Resonets and kind of what that was all about. We've talked about interdimensional. There's a lot of things we don't understand. Space and time is one of them, right? I mean, we talk about dimensions, right? Third dimension is everything we see, fourth is time. And even just the fourth dimension past what we can physically see and understand, even though we don't even fully understand the third dimension,

but just say that fourth dimension is time and we don't at all understand time. You know, what is on a clock or our watch or whatever the case is. That's what we think of as time. Right. And we think about it forward and backwards. Yes. But there is time that's, you know, side to side. Yeah, linear.

Yeah, you got linear time. And then, you know, but also, we also don't understand how time can be used, manipulated, warped. All of these things are very strange. I think a really good movie that, and I mention this quite often. But for those of you that have not saw Interstellar, I definitely say you should do that, because Interstellar does an amazing job it kind of depicting how weird a time can be when you start getting in space

or near black holes or whatever the case is. If you're on a certain planet in other places that we just don't understand their time, you know, 30 minutes on that planet, on that planet, even if you traveled back at whatever speed you could travel back at light speed or whatever, if you stay on that planet for 30 minutes and you get back to Earth,

it could be five years, it could be 10 years later. This is how weird time it. Yeah, and I always think about the part when he's in the bookcase, but he's in this huge thing outer space. He's in a dimension. Yeah, like in another dimension where he's trying to push the book on earth for his daughter to understand that he's there for her to figure out how to get him back or whatever. Which is another good example of physical manifestation through another dimension.

Yeah, so it's both physical and interdimensional. Yeah, it's a great movie, and I really, really encourage everyone to check that out. Now, meanwhile, various theories were postulated by United States representatives Mike Gallagher on the possible origin of UFOs while he appeared on the Pat McAvey show on June 27, 2023. Now, the former Marine suggested that unidentified flying objects might possibly represent an ignomatic ancient civilization that had remained hidden on Earth until recently when they began to surface. And this is an actual U.S. Congressman, a former Marine, and he said this should be an opportunity for the government. To be transparent, he said. If we have information that this, that disconfirms the extraterrestrial hypothesis, or these other ones, at least it shows the government doing something competent and being forward-leaning by declassifying information to the public. Now, Representative Gallagher made this statement in response to the wild interview of David Grush with Ross Cuthart.

That hit the media where Mr. Grush, who was confirmed to testify before Congress, which is going to happen this Wednesday, claim that the U.S. government has proof of alien life and that there are spacecraft from another. species. And he mentions that there is a significant number of these spacecraft, some of which have landed while others have crashed. And so when asked about the duration of the cover-up, Grush mentions that the first recovery of U.S.P occurred in 1933, in Magenta, Italy, during the regime of Benito Mazzalini. He explains that the Italian government moved and recovered craft to a secure airbase until

1944 to 45 when the Vatican informed the Americans about it. And so the Vatican also is another whole entire subject around. this because the Vatican has a lot of information about UFOs and UAPs from what we've heard over the years. Now, according to the sports talk show, Gallagher suggested that one possible explanation of the supposed UFO's sightings was the so-called Terminator theory derived from the same name, that aliens were actually human beings from the future. And Gallagher further put forth another theory, suggested in the following. So he said, instead of us from the future, it might indeed be an ancient civilization that has been lurking here. and suddenly it's making its presence known, you know, ancient aliens, you know, per se.

And a similar theory was actually proposed by Tim Peake, one of Britain's famous astronauts. He said that the UFOs filmed by the U.S. military over 100 times could either be time-traveling humans or aliens from other civilizations. And during an interview with Good Morning, Britain in June of 2022, Britain astronaut Tim Peake, who spent more than six months on the International Space Station, was asked about the UAP video.

which the Pentagon recently declassified. And Peek said, I heard one theory where a pilot was talking about the potentiality in the future that they've developed time travel, and is it something that's come back from the future? He did not exactly say what the UFOs are, but shared some theories that have long been discussed by UFOologists. He said, I don't think it's a development of any state nation

or non-state organization at all. I think it's quite remarkable when you see the video footage. It does seem extraordinary as to what these machines are capable of. Now, so, you know, there's so many things that we've talked about is kind of what he's also talking about. You know, the potential of a futuristic human that is figured out time travel that is now coming back in time or, you know, over in time, whatever the case may be. Because it seems like the more we're starting to learn about time, it's more linear than front and back. Or actual aliens from another planet. or another solar system or wherever

Or could it be all of the above? Why couldn't it be everything that they've kind of mentioned in that article? Yeah. And now there's also said that there's a huge buried UFO hidden outside of the U.S. And Ross Coulthart claimed that he knows the location of this immovable craft. There is no confirmation from Coulthard about the nature of this craft if it was retrieved. However, some have speculated this could be an archaeological dig. Could this particular craft be potentially be a remnant of,

of a begone civilization. And so considering Representative Matt Gallagher's theory, scientists have explored a possibility of detecting ancient civilizations in Earth's geological record. And a recent paper called the Silurium hypothesis discusses how traces of industrial civilization could be found.

While fossils and artifacts are unlikely to survive over millions of years, anomalous changes in chemical compositions could serve as clues. And by studying geological anomalies and applying models to other planet, scientists hope to understand that civilizations existed in distant past. Now, there's a lot of Graham Hancock's, one of these people that are trying to prove this.

You've got so many people that are really trying to prove the fact of our civilization is potentially much older than we think. Right, way older. And there are way more artifacts that we know about that have to do with ancient aliens. Yeah, absolutely. And just like we said before, the pyramids, how would it be possible for a human being? to build those without any kind of technology. Yeah, you wouldn't think so. I mean, you know, that's something that's always been discussed.

And technology had to have at least existed or something had to have happened for that to happen. Because a lot of people will even say, like, pyramids would be hard to build today. I mean, if you see how huge some of this, some of this rock is, some of this granite and some of the, there's so many different types of material, but they're massive. And so to pull off a build like that would even be difficult today. I mean, that's the crazy thing. Like sticks and rocks to bring things up. And like you said, even with the cranes we have today, it would be almost impossible. Yeah, you're right.

Now, this is something that Tom DeLong talks about why the government is keeping aliens a secret from us. Now, Tom DeLong, for those of you know who he is or don't know, he is one of the singers and artists in the band, Blink 1A2. he started the group to the Stars Academy. You know, he over the course of years, supposedly or allegedly, has gotten really close to a lot of officials within the government, a lot of people that really know a lot about a lot of things, including Podesta and some of these other people.

And he's actually even talked about some of the information that he's heard from people that he believes to truly know what these things are. he says that they truly believe that they are some type of interdimensional being. Still could be aliens from another civilization, but know how to use the interdimensionality of what we're seeing. But this is what Tom DeLong talks about, and this is what I wanted to talk about earlier, which is going to prelude us to tomorrow night's show. So listen to what he has to say.

Would the link of aliens creating man who then created God to keep us in our place be something worth keeping secret. Mind you, secret with a K, which is how we do secret machines. I think so. We're talking about the biggest institutions on the planet in the world's major religions. It's bigger than just the big, bad U.S. government, and going back to the Greeks, and including Russians and Germans, make it sufficiently global across centuries. Maybe evidence of disappeared ancient cultures, Easter Island, the Maya, the Inca. that's evidence of what happened for those who did not obey, thus encouraging the secret to be kept. And could the story evolve from how men exploited, different groups of men exploited this technology, to see how the entire secret is uncovered, rewriting world history,

and shattering many of our most well-regarded holy institutions, except this time when they come to wipe us out like the other ones, we are actually ready for them. And that readiness is another example, why things have been kept quiet for so long and has been a strange international partnership indeed. Yeah, so this is something that I wanted to touch on because, you know, one of the things that he's saying is the government doesn't want to disclose UFO technology because, you know, religions could suffer. I mean, since when has the government really cared lately about religions, right? Yeah, I think it's the opposite. Yeah. But what he doesn't talk about here is, okay, I understand his take on this, right?

You know, do you not tell people that aliens exist from another planet because it might screw up religions, moral turpitude, and there's so many things. I mean, could it really be a downfall of civilization? I mean, reality, though, is, like, how much could it be more of a downfall to civilization than we are already facing today? But so if you have these theories that you're hiding this from the problem. public because of religions would suffer and it would disprove religion on so many levels. I completely disagree with that. One of the things that, whereas he wants to call out the reverse of religion, I think there is an argument to be had about what if these things 100% have to do with religion?

What if what we're seeing, the UAPs and UFOs, what if they are 100% from God, right? What if a lot of the things in the Bible and some of the things we've talked about in the past, about signs from the heavens and all of these things that the Bible has talked about, what if these UFOs and UAPs we are seeing all the time now are from God, right? I mean, then what does that say, right? And then there's also the question we've talked about many times before is, okay, if these things are strictly from God, what if they're not UFOs and UAPs necessarily, but they could be angels, they could be a spirit, they could be God's sign that, hey,

the Earth's end is near and I am coming back or whatever the case is. Right. You have that. And then you also have, okay, and they are aliens, but that still does not disprove God. I mean, and I've been one of these that I've been, I've thought about this very, very heavily, especially when I really started to believe in aliens and UFOs and started doing a ton of research and thinking about this from someone that grew up in church. You know, I went to church.

I went to a Baptist Christian church my whole life. life, or not my whole life, but, you know, for most of my childhood. And then, you know, like I said, I kind of struggled with some of religion stuff as I got older. And then, you know, the more I've looked at this world, kind of from the lens of everything we've been doing for five years. And the more we've found out about how the world is really working, the truth is really happening out there, what they're hiding, what they're not, how science has kind of proven at least the possibility of God. When science, it seems like one of science's main goals used to be to disprove God.

To disprove it. And I still don't think that's their goal whatsoever. I think they're trying to prove other dimensions and atoms and different molecules and they're trying to find what the origins of the universe are, right? This is one of the things that CERN, which is the large Hadron Collider, it is one of the things that it is trying to do is trying to figure out what black matter is or dark matter. It's trying to figure out how all of us started or came from and with a particle collider. And yet they're finding the proof or existence of other dimensions.

And so one of the things that's always been said was, well, if you can't see God, then you must not exist. But now science is saying, well, you can't see time, and we know that exists. And you can't see the fifth and sixth and seventh and eighth and ninth and tenth dimension, but we're now proven that those things exist. And if you really, if you go back to our, I think it's our CERN podcast, I'm pretty sure, but we dive pretty deep into what some of these dimensions possibly mean. Right. And when they get all the way up to the 10th dimension,

one of the things that there was quite a few scientists that talked about this and what they were thinking, you know, if you really wanted to go up the scale and look at the 10th dimension. the 10th dimension would be almost a godlike dimension. It would be a dimension to where you could control all aspects of your reality and your life or other people's lives and reality and all this stuff. And so the big question that I had asked, I started asking myself about the 10th dimension or that realm of possibility is, well, what if this is somewhere near where God lives, right? What if how God exists and why he exists and all these things that sounds so outlandish and crazy and how could one person control and create and do all this stuff?

But then you think about, listen to science's explanations on the 10th dimension and listen to how they explain the total power and control that something that could be in that dimension could actually have. And so that's where I kind of got to. But I definitely still have a, there's a lot of questions we answered about the UFO, UAP topic. And so tomorrow night, we are going to be talking to Bree. She's going to come on talk about the religion side of it, the spiritual side of it.

And there will probably be some things that I don't agree with and she doesn't agree with and vice versa. Right. But I think it's the best way to talk about it because Brie really knows the Bible. She knows. And she's not, and like I said, for those that have never listened to her, she's not one of those people that want to shove religion down in your throat. But she knows it to where... She's very knowledgeable. Yeah, she knows it to where when we talk about it, you're going to understand it from a different view and especially having a kind of our opinion inside on this.

I think you'll get to... something really beneficial out of it. And especially on the UFO UAP topic, it's at least something to listen to. Whether you believe in God or don't believe in God, I think if you are a true UFO enthusiast or someone that really wants the answers to the UFO topic, I think, you know, while you can explore all of these other things,

interdimensionality, ancient civilizations, time travelers of our future selves, the one thing you definitely can't leave out when talking about this is God. or the idea of God, whether you believe in or not. And I think that it's the best time to bring her on tomorrow, especially after we're talking about UFOs tonight. And then Wednesday we'll have the committee meeting and maybe we'll have some really good things that come out

that they actually let us find out about. Yeah, one of the things I do want to talk about briefly, though, is, you know, Commander David Fravor is going to be there, David Grush and Ryan Graves. Now, Ryan's been on Joe Rogan's podcast and talked very, depth about his experiences there. One of the things I've kind of thought about this hearing, especially since NASA and

Pentagon people have been canceled, what new are we really going to know with this meeting or with this hearing? You know, on that redacted, the clip we played to you earlier, he was talking about a video that he had seen along with a doctor. And there's some other people that have seen these videos that we're talking about that beyond, seems like beyond reasonable doubt proves the existence of aliens and that they are here. And I have seen these videos as well.

And have you, have I, have you seen these? I'll show them. And if I can find them, guys, I will put them on. I had seen them in one place. And I thought for a minute, a couple of these, I was like, those are fake. They got to be fake. Apparently not, though. Apparently what all the people are saying, these are not fake.

And I believe this is what some of the congressmen have seen. Pretty crazy stuff. But this is what he was talking about. And he says, are we going to be able to see these videos finally in Congress, right? Wednesday. I don't think so because I don't know that either one of these people that are testifying in Congress Wednesday have these videos. I'm not sure. I don't think that's the source.

Yeah, because I think the whistleblower is from NASA or Pentagon or the Air Force or whatever that they're not letting them speak. I think those are the people that probably have those videos. Yeah. And I also think that there was other videos and other imagery that, you know, that's one of the whole reasons they were going to this Air Force base, Tim, Tim Burchett and them, to see. see more videos and footage that they had. The whistleblowers said they had. And then, of course, that's why they stonewalled them.

So we've got a lot to talk about, guys, Wednesday. Tomorrow night, it's going to be a great episode. Be sure to stay tuned for that. And so we just wanted to cover what maybe we should expect from this hearing. Hopefully, it's more than what I think, right? Hopefully, we're going to hear something new. There are ways that Congress people can get stuff out of people maybe that, you know, or maybe I'm not sure about this either, but, you know,

there are still some things I hear that some of these people still can't talk about openly, whether it be David Grush, Ryan Graves, or Commander David Fravor, but more so David Grush. But what I do wonder is if there's any way that any of these Congress people could have got Ryan Graves off of some of this NDA or inability to speak further before coming to this committee here. I don't know. I'm not sure. But that's really probably the only way we're going to hear something new. Yeah, and it's complete garbage that they don't let them let the public know. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it makes sense because, you know, and like I said, at the very least, say that these craft are alien spacecraft and we are working on weapon technology because of it. I would understand, I guess, all right, I mean, by not wanting to come forward as the government and say, okay, well, we do have these craft and they got amazing weapons, guys. We're just working on. We're going to get to them soon, and we're going to have some badass things to destroy the rest of the world. You know, what would Russia and China and all of them think, right? They're going to be like, oh, really? So maybe we need to, like, destroy them, you know, or what I mean, it could literally lead to massive consequences. A lot of different things, definitely.

I mean, it's just like, you know, you think nuclear weapons are powerful. I mean, imagine what potential weapons from an alien spacecraft with that much power and force and technology could have. It could be mind-blowing. So we will have to wait to Wednesday for that, but be sure to tune in tomorrow for the podcast episode of Brie where we talk about the God side of this or the God potential side of this. And we'll talk a little bit about the UFO stuff as well and some interdimensionality, frequencies and all of these things. That's something we're going to be talking about as well. So don't just think we're going to be talking just strictly about like what's in the Bible and this is the verse and all this. I know.

It gets very interesting with Brie. Yeah, we're going to go a lot deeper with this than that. So guys, we're going to play you out with. with O-A-R again, just like Paradise. So you guys can listen to the whole song. But until next time, we love you guys. Peace out. She mixes the pineapple with dark rum.

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