Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts | Alien Mothership HERE! | & Military Deaths From UFOs

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

New reports are out of a potential alien mothership in our solar system! Not only are we hearing about the possibility of an alien mothership, but we are starting to hear reports of members of the military dying from UFO encounters! I think its official, WE ARE NOT ALONE! This is our best UFO UAP Conspiracy podcast yet! MUST LISTEN

Welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I'm here as Chad alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello, Sherry. Hey, hey, guys and gals. Welcome to the show. We are so glad you're here. Yes, we are. So glad you guys are here.

It is 7.30 p.m. here on the East Coast of the United States, March 13, 2023. And we have another good episode for you guys. This particular subject is for sure, without a doubt. The topic I'm always most excited to talk about, probably the topic I believe in the most. And I think it's the most intriguing, really. I mean, if I look back in my childhood and growing up and just everything, I always wanted to know more about UFOs and the UAP thing. And, you know, UFOs was a big reason we got into podcasting,

along with corruption, along with all the other stuff we talked about. But the UFO thing is something that, you know, it gets us a little bit off the topic of just everything bad has happened in this world. and it kind of it helps us look at ourselves from a very small, minuscule thing that we are in this universe when you start thinking about the possibility

of other life in our universe. Right. And it's so exciting now to talk about it because it's okay to talk about it now. You know, in years past, if you talked about UFOs or UAPs, you were a crazy nut that needed to be in a psychiatric ward. Yeah, exactly.

And now it's okay to talk about it and the government's starting to come out with things that like, hey, you're not crazy if you've seen something in the sky or, you know, report something. So I think that helps a lot too is just the fact that we're able to talk about them freely. Yeah. Yeah, I think a big part of that has been obviously the military sightings, the reports from the military. The Pentagon's starting to actually be a little more transparent, although not completely whatsoever, whoever transparently. like we need them to be. I mean, there's been UFO files. There's been files been released by Pentagon.

But more and more and more, we're starting to hear more and more things that are just concrete evidence that we are not alone. And there's two very different ways you can look at this. Well, there's actually multiple different ways you can look at this. And we have some extremely, extremely interesting clips to play for you guys tonight. And some of these, a lot of you probably haven't heard. But we have to bring these to you because I think that it's just, It's kind of mind-blowing when you start hearing this stuff.

Now, obviously, anybody that's going to listen to this, or most people that's going to listen to this episode, has probably heard about Lester Holt recently on NBC Nightly News, talk about the possibility of an alien mothership sending probes to Earth or potentially being in our own solar system. And that is a very, very crazy thing to hear on NBC Nightly News. Yes, for sure. And it's one of those things now,

it's like when you talk to people out there, Or when you meet someone new, and we do this often, but when we meet someone new and we say, yeah, we have a podcast, what do you guys talk about? You know, you can tell people, well, we talk about corruption. Or if you told them that, you know, you talk about politics or you talk about Bigfoot or you talk about all this stuff, right? But the reality is that UFOs are starting to no longer be a conspiracy theory. You know, it's very strange because the past couple years, and especially the past year, there's been so many memes out there that says, conspiracy theorist 20-something, others zero, or whoever's always calling those people conspiracy there.

So many things are coming true. And as I said, there are several different ways that we can all look at the UFO thing. And we know our audience is divided on this, at the very least in two parts, right? Now, some of you out there might not believe in UFOs. You might think that there's nothing outside of Earth. Actually, there are many flat earthers that believe that the earth is flat and space is some kind of hologram. Yeah, that we're in like a simulation. Yeah, like a simulation thing.

So that's what flat earthers believe. And I'm not sure all flat earthers believe that, but that is a concept flat earthers believe. Then you have some people that are Christian or otherwise or religious, and they believe UFOs have zero to do with any other life form outside of this planet. rather they are fallen angels or they are part of God's, I don't know. Team. Part of God's boys. I don't know how to say it. Like, these are God's boys.

Yeah, this is God's boys over here. These are the angels. Yeah. You know, so there are Christian and religious people that believe, well, UFOs are nothing more than the signs from the heavens, which is what the Bible talks about. And that. Then there's another group of people that believe that. the government or media are pushing this UFO narrative and talking a lot about it right now to get our mind and attention off of something bigger that's going on behind the scenes or something bigger that they want to take the attention off of.

Right. And I was actually talking to Nate last night about this. And I told Nate last night I said, and I'm going to specifically talk about this thing first because there's a lot of people that reach out to us, whether it be an email or various ways. send us messages on Twitter or whatever. But mostly a lot of emails that reach out to us and say, look, I know you guys talk about UFO and UAPs, but let me tell you my thought on this. And a lot of you will say my thought on this is that they're just trying to cover for some more sinister, crazy thing that's going on. And so they want us to believe in an alien evasion.

Or just keep that on our mind so we're not seeing what's going on behind scenes. Yes. And for those of you, a couple episodes back, we did Project Bluebeam, which is a, a conspiracy that basically says that the government is going to fake or the world leader, the Antichrist, will fake a alien invasion of some sort or a rapture of some sort, right? And they're going to use holograms and all this stuff. And then there's going to be an Antichrist that appears on the earth that says, hey, I am the leader.

And they're going to use alien-type things and stuff like this to do. Then there's also people that say, well, the government themselves will fake alien invasion to make you believe that whatever. I mean, there are so many different methods. But what I will say, as far as the government and media now coming out and getting behind the concept of UFOs and aliens existing and not just existing,

but the vast amount of sightings that we are seeing, military and otherwise, I don't think that it's a media government conspiracy that they're trying to get our attention or minds off of more sinister or some kind of false flag type deal, right? And the reason I say this is because they can't hide anything anymore. Like everything and how screwed up this world is and the government, it's just in plain sight nowadays. I mean, just look around.

I mean, we've got banks collapsing. We have a wide open border that people are flowing over. We have more crime than we've seen in a very long time. You've got the Russia-Ukraine war. You've got talks of World War III. You have everything under the sun. And everybody knows about it. You know, everyone's talking about this, in part because Twitter is a wide open space to where people are allowed to talk about it and discuss it.

And then, you know, you had the other social media companies that are just there to connect people and don't allow people to actually have discourse and speak about things. So I don't think that the UFO thing has anything to do with a false flag. I am going to go ahead and tell you that right now. And if you have a, some reason or something that they're trying to hide, I just don't believe that, right? It's not that big enough right now that, you know, it would just take away every attention on everything else. Now, obviously, we have a lot of issues. We've got a World War III issue like we've never seen. I mean, we're, we're extremely close to World War III. And, you know, a lot of people and a lot of experts say that we might already be in World War III.

We just don't realize it yet, right? I mean, and, you know, are these aliens or these beings of whatever, of whatever race, not nationality, but whatever world they came from, you know, are they appearing now because they know how heightened the tension is here on Earth? But when I say, are they appearing, are they appearing from space or are they coming from the ocean? Could these be? It could be both. Yeah, and it could be. You're absolutely right, because there's actually been very. various reports. There are some reports that you talk to this group or this group. So this

group of military guys, this group of military guys, this group of people that accounts or says very similar things. And the way these things interact, the way they, the way their propulsion looks, you know, whatever. And they interact with air just like they do with water. It's the same thing. They can go gracefully into the water like they're flying in their air. Yeah. And then there's, so then you have those groups of people. And then you have other groups of people that reports a little different types of sightings, right? They're a little different. They, these things act differently. They, they, they don't move necessarily as fast in certain circumstances. Um, there are just other things. So yes, to your point, could these things be from

both space and the ocean? Now, one of the things that we're going to be interviewing Dr. Well, he's Robert Schock PhD. He's a PhD. Um, and he is extremely versed in, and ancient Civilization. He's a very big end to the pyramids and just trying to date civilization. And he's got many wonderful books. We're actually going to be interviewing him this weekend, weather permitting. Regardless, we're going to interview him this weekend. But, you know, one of the things that people in ancient civilizations are trying to figure out is how much technology and how much, you know, advancement did we have? Like in, but we, but we, also don't even, we can't even necessarily agree with how old our civilization is. Like, were there

other civilizations before us? And could there be still part of an ancient civilization still on this planet? Well, and I think that's exactly what the problem is with people like Robert that might have a little bit of a different theory that most professors have been teaching their whole life about ancient civilizations. This is the date. This is when it happened. This is when it happened. This is when this occurred. This is when this occurred. And if you have a little different paradigm or a little shift in the theory, they don't like that. Yeah, there's so much money that goes towards that research. Well, and they just go completely against it. Like, you are full of crap. This is pseudoscience. This is not true science. But it's always, and we saw this in COVID, too. You know, doctors that didn't

listen to other doctors about, you know, pre-pre- well, preventative treatments and yeah, all that stuff. It's kind of the same thing. You know, the doctors that got shot out, well, that's the same thing that's happening to him because he has a different theory than most professors have taught their entire lives. And if you have something different and it's controversial, a lot of people are not going to accept it, accept it, and they're going to attack you. Yeah, they're going to call you rogue or they're going to call you an outcast or they're going to call you whatever. But, you know, in all honesty, it takes rogue people or outcast. to be able to blaze a new path.

Right. Because there's so much of what is, you know, almost, I don't want to use this phrase for this. But once something is so heavily researched and so much money and funding has gone towards this one thing, it almost creates a mass psychosis of that group of people that can't go any other way

because there's so much money funding that. And we all know that when you fund things, especially tons of money towards research and years of research. And to where there are many prominent either PhDs, archaeologists, geologists, and a lot of those can be PhDs and doctors and whatever too. But a lot of these people that have spent their entire lives on doing this and then someone comes along or a group of people come along and say, look, I feel like there's a reason to say this, and this is why I think you are wrong potentially, or we're just not accurate with what we're,

with what the consensus is. Right. And anytime you have someone that comes along and says this, well, people are just, you know, they're up in arms about it because it's going to make them look like they were wrong. And everything they've taught everybody forever

and everything they've researched and all of the stuff they've done, whether they've written books or whether how much money, research money from various institutions, governments, world governments, whatever, has went towards their research is now wrong, right? So anybody that comes along that has a theory and a very good theory. And I believe...

With data. Yeah, I believe Robert Schock. I believe many of these people that are starting to come on board with this have very great theories. And we're going to talk to Robert about that next... Or this coming weekend. But...

So, yeah, there's so many different things. But in tonight's podcast, we're going to talk about, obviously, the alien mothership thing, that that possibility that could be something that is in our solar system. and but our first clip we're going to play to you guys and girls is Tucker Carlson went on the

Nelk Boys podcast and Tucker Carlson obviously is a huge Fox News host and the Nelk boys are a group of guys on YouTube that I'll be honest they've got a big podcast they do get great guest and they do get big numbers they're not the best interviewers right I will say But they're younger guys that influence a lot of younger people, which is good. And like we're talking about before this podcast, I'm glad that they influence them the way they do. Yeah. You know, I think they're not so, I don't even want to say the way. They're not woke as well.

Yeah, they're exactly. Yeah, they actually see what's going on in the world, I think. But they're mega rich. They make tons of money. They got a drink company called Happy Dad, which are making hand over fist money on. But their merchandise is really what made them huge. but what, well, I mean, that's what made them huge money-wise, but they used to do pranks, and then there's so many different people that kind of made their careers based on the Nelk boys, so they all kind of went on on their own. But then they created a podcast. They've had Trump on. They've had guests that are controversial. Tucker Carlson's probably one of those controversial guests, especially after his latest release of the January 6th or a few of the January 6 videos.

But Tucker went on, and he talked a little bit about war. He talked about Jeffrey Epstein. He talked about some of these things. And war he talked about because Tucker used to work at CNN. And he was a correspondent with CNN while he was in Iraq. This was during the Iraq war. And just leading into this next part, what we're about to play to you guys, he was just simply talking about Epstein. He knew he was murdered because he had a lot of connections. And a lot of that, there's no question that Epstein was murdered. And then before this, he talked about his time in Iraq when he was over there with CNN and they like they're giving him AK-47 saying you're going to go qualify and carry this while you're here and he's like I don't want to freaking carry a

gun in a war zone. I just want press all over me and being a metal suit basically. Yes. But I really loved his personality. He's a lot different than what I expected him to be. A lot of people said that. You know, and I really, you know, I watch him all the time. I, you know, I really like Tucker. I think he has great monologues, whatever. You know, he has interesting. topics and you know viewpoints or whatever but his personality is not what I expected it to be

and he was pretty funny yeah he's pretty funny but he's also he admitted in the beginning in this interview you know he's like I'm a dick like and I got to try not to be a dick as much I am one and I try not to be one but I want to play this to you guys because Tucker is been in media and and he's

so connected I mean you know if you think of people like Jeremy Corbell and you think of people like anyone, Tom DeLong or some of these other people that are UFO researchers or UFO writers of either books or documentaries and all these things.

But you have someone like Tucker that I think people overlook just how connected in everything that he is. If he wants to talk to anyone that has information on something, he can reach out to them. You know, whether you hate or love Fox News or whether you hate or love Tucker, if you look at just simply numbers as far as ratings go, Tucker's show is

number one. I mean, period over any talk show on television. And Tucker has the personality to kind of bring people in. But I want to play this part to you. This is what Tucker said about UFOs. And I believe he says in here, I want to make sure he says it, but I think he does, you know, call out, he says, I'm not a conspiracy theorist person. I've never been one of these people to believe in Bigfoot or any of this stuff. But the Nuck Boys. are about to ask him right here, well, what is the one thing that you really believe in? Like, out of everything you've talked about,

what is one thing that you're most intrigued about right now? And this was his answer, and so I want you guys to hear it. Here you go. That's crazy. What do you think? What's one of your favorite topics you've ever covered? Or something that you just got so obsessed with?

Well, UFOs for sure. Yeah, it's talks of aliens. Because UFOs. Why UFOs and when? I'll tell you why. It's actually the same reason I was interested in Epstein. because I'm like a completely conventional person. Like I worked at CNN.

I spent a season doing commentary and analysis for Good Morning America. I lived in Washington from the age of 15. My dad worked for the federal government. Like I am not an outsider like believing that fluoride is causing brain damage or whatever. Like I've never believed in a conspiracy theory in my entire life. I lived in Washington. And it was only in the past five years when all this evidence would, but I'm curious,

all this evidence would emerge and I'd be like well that doesn't that's not true it doesn't seem true to me like I can I don't know what the truth is but I can tell when someone's lying it's like my one gift and I would see these people lying and I'd be like why are they lying I know they're lying but why and so I really came to this like at the age of 50 like that's you're almost dead when you're 50 like that's very late what was it that made you well UFOs like I never for a second thought you UFOs but what changed your attitude at 50 evidence which is what well we We, well, oh my gosh, at this point. Well, this point, it's kind of come out, actually.

The Pentagon was required by the last defense authorization bill to produce some of their files on UFOs. And it turns out they have known about this since the end of the Second World War, which ended in 1945, been a huge increase during that war, during the war as well. Huge increase in UFO sightings in UFO crashes, et cetera, et cetera. And it turns out the federal government has. has been tracking this for 80 years and lying about it. So why? Well, that's a great question, and I can't answer it. I'm theories, but I don't know.

But here's what I learned. Just to, the first question is, is this real? Or am I just being a crazy person who's spending too much time on the internet? Well, this summer, we got a call. We didn't reach out. This person called us. Lexi, who's standing right there, who's a genius, one of our producers, gets his call from this guy who's a tenured Stanford medical school professor.

And he wants to come on the show. Now, this guy has a couple patents. and so he's rich. And he's got tenure at one of the most prestigious schools in the world. So, like, he's not a flake. He comes on, and he's like 11 years ago, the U.S. government reached out to me because I'm an expert on head injuries, on brain injuries, traumatic brain injuries, as a physician,

and they had all these court cases from families of U.S. servicemen over 100 who'd been killed by UFOs. And the Department of Defense was refusing to give them death benefits or medical benefits. And I'm like, and he's like, so they're in the courts. And I was like, there are over a hundred servicemen killed by UFOs. Like, what? He's like, yeah. And there are court cases about it.

I'm like, why isn't this on the front page of the New York Times? I don't know. But he goes, I'm involved in it. I'm the, you know, I'm one of the researchers, I'm the expert witness in these cases. Holy shit. What does that mean? And he's like, for example, UFOs appear to be attracted for whatever reason to nuclear energy. So at nuclear missile bases in the upper Midwest, for example,

nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, nuclear-powered submarines, are all getting buzzed by these objects, including underwater. And in a number of cases, these things have landed on military bases, including famously in Germany, in West Germany in the 70s, and servicemen have approached them. Like, what is this thing? There's just, like, giant glowing thing on the base. And they approach, and they get traumatic brain injury.

Like, they are rendered. Yeah, yeah. They get brain damage. or they're killed. And he studied their brains. And they have, this is all totally real. This is not, this is the Department of Defense, dude. And they've all had this damage from some kind of powerful energy that we cannot identify.

So then this guy's like, wow, he's just a scientist. He never believed in UFOs. He's like, this is real. I cannot believe this is real. This is like crazy. She was to do research on it. He's still at Stanford. And it turns out that actually, yes, these things have been shot down and crashed.

And the U.S. government has the record. and it's being held by defense contractors, Raytheon Lockheed, which are big independent companies that work for the U.S. government, they're really part of the Department of Defense, but they're separate. So sunshine laws don't apply to them.

You can't actually get information from them. It's a very tricky way to hide information. And they have the wreckage from these crafts. And I'm like, really? Are we positive? These aren't like advanced Russian or Chinese? No, of course not. So is it more like the government or whatever

is just this good at hiding it or people just don't care? Well, I think it's a comment. of both. I think it's too big for people to metabolize. Like, if Prince Harry says something stupid, everyone's like, I can't pretty Prince Harry. Because like, that's manageable. You can like, oh, this dushy fake prince with his stupid wife from Santa Monica, like, I get that. But the idea that we're not alone in the universe and we're getting buzzed by these objects whose behavior defies physics, like that just explodes too many categories in my head. I just can't deal with it. And I think

that's part of it. But I'll tell you this, the most interesting from my perspective, I don't know if it's a consensus, but a lot of people, serious people, not crazy people who study this stuff, US government employees, seem to believe that these objects are coming from under the oceans.

So the conventional view is they're coming in from outer space. There's not actually a lot of, you know, something enters the atmosphere. We can see it on satellite, and there's not any evidence of that, actually. Maybe it's happening, but we don't know that it is.

There's a lot of evidence these things are coming out of the ocean, including videotape of these objects. of these objects coming out of the water at high speed or even more amazing, descending at Mach 3 into the water. And then, of course, we have a huge submarine fleet. What the fuck? Then we have a huge submarine fleet, American, but also Chinese and Russian,

underwater with pretty sensitive measurement devices, sonar, etc. And they have recorded these objects doing hundreds of knots underwater. So, like, let's just stop there. Wait, what's not? It's 1.1 miles per hour. It's a way that we measure objects in the water. It's 1.1 miles. It's a little more than mile per hour,

and a mile is a measurement that we use in the United States. It's distinct from a kilometer, which I think is right. Yeah. Common in Canada. But anyway, these things are moving at impossibly high speeds. So just like, let's just apply common sense for one second. If I take a 45-ACP, you know, a 45-caliber handgun and fire it at you. underwater in a say a swimming pool

50 feet away you can catch the bullet because the resistance is so strong from the water that objects can't move that fast underwater we know that but they are and they're moving without any visible means of propulsion so no wake no bubbles

where have we like track that all over the world all over the world really yes on like sonar systems yes from the submarines and this has come out like some of this is in the New York Times I'm not It's not like you have to go in the dark web to find out. So is there like aliens are living in the Earth's core or some shit? I have no idea.

I'd only be speculating, but there is, I want to restate videotape of these objects of unknown origin, hitting the water and disappearing and then coming out of the water. By the way, there was just last week I spoke to a member of Congress about this, who was on a military base in the state of Florida, where they showed him. images of four of these things that like a raptor pilot, some American fighter pilot took these images of these objects right next to his plane.

But here's the most interesting thing. They got a thermal read on him. They measure heat. That's one of the ways that, you know, we get a heat imprint. Like if we have like a thermal optic, I can see the heat coming off your body. That's how we see things at day.

The thermal imaging of this showed the heat at the bottom of the object and not at the top. And as the commanding general said to this member of Congress, he's like, that doesn't make any sense because heat does what? It rises. So you don't ever see a thermal image of anything with the heat at the bottom.

The heat's at the top. It's cool at the top, hot at the bottom? How does that work? If I put a cigarette lighter under my hand, where's the hot part? Yeah, yeah. Right? So he's like, as a matter of physics,

that can't happen. So to me, one of the most intriguing questions about all of this is, does physics actually describe the world around us? And no, not all of it anyway. So like, what the fuck is that? Like if all of a sudden I'm saying like the laws of physics, like gravity, photosynthesis, like not all of that is real.

Like it has limits and there are things that exist outside of it. That's when your brain starts to explode. I just wonder what would happen if something does come out and more evidence does come out how the people would respond to that. We'll ignore it. We'll ignore it. So my impression, I don't know this for a fact, but everyone I've ever talked to about it is like,

one of the reasons they're nervous is that this shows, and the Russians and Chinese feel the same way, apparently, it shows that our military does not control our airspace, which is like a basic precept of a country, like this is our country, we control our borders, we control our airspace and our waters, and we don't. So that's really scary,

and it shows the military is not in control. So they don't want to admit that. And the second thing they're worried about is some kind of like mass freak out where people are like, I can't be aliens are here. But based on my limited experience, I don't think they should worry because people are so high

and so caught up in Prince Harry. I honestly think if an alien spacecraft landed in Times Square and started issuing orders, people would be like, wow, that's a trip, man. And then like the next day, Daily Mail would be leading with Prince Harry again. Yeah. I do think that.

Yeah. So what's your theory on aliens based on all the research you've done? Do you think they're already on Earth? I think that there's a huge amount of, of evidence in the archaeological record that these things have been around since the beginning of recorded history

the references to them the star over Bethlehem maybe one of them I here's what I really think I think I'd all right so there you go and that's that's basically what he said I mean that he's basically wrapping it up there so we got to break down what he said because I think

this even though it's Nugboys amazing interview from Tucker and something that he can speak freely about. Right. And so we got to analyze what he's actually saying here, right? He's actually saying that a tenured Stanford brain surgeon slash expert on brains, much like Dr. Peter McCullough is an expert and one of the most cited.

Well, no, not in COVID, but yeah, partly. And heart. Yeah. You know, as Peter McCola is one of the most cited cardiologists and researched cardiologists. on the heart. You know, you have someone like this doctor, which is a Stanford, you know, tenured, patented brain doctor. He's not some quack that just came and called Tucker. This guy is like a major, like dude.

And he testified for these trials for families on, as an expert witness to basically say, yeah, these brains are effed. So I'd actually done some research since hearing this interview, right? And so basically what happened was the government, Department of Defense and others were basically classified in a lot of these soldiers' deaths. A lot of these families were not getting paid death benefits based on active duty death, right? And so they were in a lot of various ways. They were, I guess, accounting these deaths as brain aneurysms, stroke. you know, certain things like this. And the problem with that was is, number one, you know, when this doctor came on board and said,

all right, well, let me examine all the cases, the lumps of cases, because there were lumps of cases when these soldiers would encounter these UFOs, whether it be on a military base, there was some soldiers that encountered these things in active war zones. I think some of them were in Iraq. I think some of them were in Kosovo, maybe, at one point in time. But either way, there were lumps of soldiers that were being debilitated or dead based on traumatic brain injury. And so what these families knew was something happened, right? I mean, you didn't have 10 to 15 soldiers at a time dying with very similar outcomes, mostly brain damage.

It was almost as if they had gotten a traumatic car wreck and they had a massive brain injury or they shot theirself in the head or something like this. Or they're all in a bus. And the same thing happened to them. Yes. It just doesn't happen like that. It doesn't. But the government was classifying these deaths as, well, stroke, aneurysm, this, this, this. And so obviously this was not making sense.

But then as they investigated, as these families dug got attorneys, got doctors on board, and also had whistleblowers in the government that came out and said, look, these guys actually encountered UFOs on these bases or in this war zone or whatever. We didn't know what these things were. As they approached these crafts, they all went down. Like completely. And once we retrieve them, they were either dead or brain dead, pretty much. Or some of them, some of the ones that were further away from the craft were not as screwed up as the ones that were approaching this craft.

And so these soldiers, obviously in war zone times, or not even in war zone times, on military bases, you don't, you know, when something's landing or whatever, that number one, your base doesn't know about on a military. base with nuclear weapons, because like Tucker said, and I think many people, the consensus is, they are attracted nuclear power or nuclear something. You're not walking up to these crafts thinking that you're going to walk up to a UFO. They didn't probably know what the hell this thing was. They maybe thought it was something that they just didn't know about maybe, or, you know, U.S. military or whatever. And then you walk up these things, and whatever the case was, whatever the power.

power source was of this. And they went on to say they didn't think that this was hostile intent of why these soldiers died based on them approaching the UFO. They rather thought that the whatever power source, like the ability of these UFOs, which we have heard from fighter pilots and others, for example, David Fravor to where these crafts would circle or orbit them, they would also, the other thing that David Fraver, Commander David Favrever. This was the coast of the Tick-Tag UFO and they got on Fleer

and then they tracked it down to the ocean. They saw this thing interacting with something under the ocean, almost like a ocean mothership. Like a mothership, yeah. Yeah. And then as this thing realized I guess that it was the F-18s were watching it because it was probably like, oh my God, damn F-18s are you shitting

me? They think they're going to screw with us. So this thing like comes up in circles and re-orbit. It's basically mirroring the F-18 and they're doing an orbit. it down. We talked about this on another podcast. And then this thing just disappears, gone. And I don't think they vanish. I don't think they do necessarily, if we're going to talk about physics, right? I don't think they go in another dimension necessarily. I mean, you could make that argument maybe. But rather

than if you have such a strong force-filled around this craft, which we got to go to Bob Lazar for a it because I think what Tucker said and what the more and more files that come out from the Pentagon is just proven Bob Lazar is legit like more and more evidence that comes out Bob Lazar is legit and I feel so bad for that man because they he's been ridiculed yeah all his life but you know and so what I'm saying is I guess to this point is um how this thing vanished in front of commander David Fravor and his F-18 once they saw it interacting with something then they circled and then it was gone. Like it went and even when they first,

it actually first appeared, he said it basically came down from, who knows, at least 80,000 feet to their level in an instant. And then it vanished in an instant, right? So for that to be possible, you've got to have some kind of propulsion that's insane. I mean, think about a lot of people haven't been behind a jet, though. But just think about this. A jet has a problem.

propulsion system, which is jet engines. Right. It's an engine. And the bigger the jet you're behind, the more wind you have behind it, right? So if you're on a ramp with a big airliner, say A330, and they put full force power on their thrust. So the thrust is coming out of those engines. It's going to blow you across the freaking ramp, right? Because the amount of power it takes to power these jets into the air and these big things,

it's a lot of thrust. And you're going to see and feel that. because of what is coming behind it. Now, it's similar, I think, to way these UFOs are. Right? You don't necessarily feel wind coming off of them or anything. But the way they interact with our atmosphere, to be able to move like that, I think, is what probably happened to these soldiers that when they approach them, it was such high energy yield right around there that it probably would traumatically affect someone. Now, one of the things I believe this doctor also said was he believed,

And I even think this is out there that this, I think when they had tested a lot of these soldiers, they had high radiation levels, right? So going back to Bob Lazar real quick, Bob Lazar said when he was at Area 51, Area S4, which is like a subunit of Area 51, he said this in the late 80s and 90s that he worked on these things. He said there was no obvious signs of propulsion. This was well before anyone has even said all this. obvious signs of propulsion. We're just now saying that in the past three, four, five years. And he's been saying it the whole time. Yes.

He said that, you know, they wanted, they had many different, basically astrophysicist and propulsion experts and whatever. None of them really knew each other. They kind of all brought different people in. They were all kind of compartmentalized to where they didn't really interact with the other one. And they were just like, hey, you tell me what you. you think about this, blah, blah.

Bob Lazard also said that he believed that there was a being that they had on Area 51 that was a part of this crash. And we're getting somewhere here because we're going to read something just a second. And then we're going to play another clip. But he also said there was a being. And that was one of the things a lot of people were like, oh, Bobzar's crazy. He actually, he's actually trying to say that he saw an alien potentially at this thing. But we got to remember if he's telling the truth, which I think he's.

I think he is. This was a craft that crashed. And this is what they were using to use experiments to do the reverse engineering to figure out how they make these crafts move. Yeah. Yeah. So if it's a crashed craft, then of course you think that something might be on this craft. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and he even said when you looked in this craft at Area 51 that it was a small cockpit area, which I mean, there was a cockpit area. which I mean there was a cockpit area though and it looked like it's not going to be necessarily a full-sized person that's going to be in this but he said when he thought he saw

a alien being in this room when he passed and he got so much backlash when he even said that and he even had to come out and say at another time like I don't know if this was a real being or they were I don't know

I have no idea he's just saying what he saw yeah but he got so backlash on it. It's almost like he had a little bit, backtrack a little bit. Just to, because, I mean, everyone was saying you're crazy. But one of the things he did say, though, and this is one

of Bobbazar's big claims, and not just big claims, but what he believed that this craft was proposed by. And he probably knows, he probably knew the consensus maybe of what they thought, and then they told him, hey, this is kind of what we think. Can you tell us

if this is a possibility? Well, there was no signs of propulsion there was no jet engines there were none of this but he he believed there was some type of generator power type system on this craft that was uh that created its own gravity field which is why we we get this gravity filled concept we talk about a lot on the ufo uap stuff but that had its own gravity field to where it created a gravity field around the craft that interacted with the gravity that we know of right and and gravity by the way is a theory really um and And we're going to touch on what Tucker said as well. But gravity is a theory that we think of, like how air works.

But gravity is different than air, right? Gravity is different than lift. Gravity is different in all this stuff. Gravity is something that we can't necessarily 100% show you to explain. Gravity is a theory. It is something that we believe happens based on this, right? Well, you can kind of say that gravity is if you put a rock up here. It's going to fall.

It's going to fall. That's gravity. Yes. But there's a theory of why it falls. Right? It's not necessarily saying gravity is the reason that happened. There's so many things that we can't explain either, right? I mean, and I think now that we're starting to see these UIPs, we can't explain these things. Well, I think gravity and the magnetic fields of like planets and things like that, this all goes together.

Yeah. So Bob Lazar believe that these crafts made their own what he would refer to as a gravity field, which interacted with our gravity field. That's how it was able to almost work. on an axis to where it could go forward, backwards, up, down, based on whatever their system was. And also, if you think about it, too, we've talked about this on another podcast as well. That is gravity-filled. Some people will say, well, how could any living thing go from zero to, say, I don't know, Mach-50 or light speed, for that matter, and not die or be crushed by the pressure?

We know our fighter pilots can't go more than nine. No, no. Oh, Mach-9. No. Oh, sorry. No, no, they, nine G's. Nine Gs is about the cutoff for fighter pilots, maybe 10, right? And that's a G-lock. So it's either negative or positive Gs. And then you start worrying about G-lock, the blood just completely draining from the brain or vice versa. And then you get to a G-level to where it would start crushing you, you know? And then we got to think about even under ocean. When you go under ocean, the pressure the water is a certain thing, too, right? So you have crushing capabilities. abilities underwater. That's why even those deep ocean submarines have to really be well built

to be able to withstand the pressures of the deep water. But the long story short is he just said, Bob Lazare said these things he believed operated on its own gravity field that interacted with ours and he also said that when he took

his friends to Area 51, which is eventually why he got kicked the hell out of Area 51. But he knew the testing times of when, because they were trying to reverse engineer in his craft, he knew the testing times of when they would normally do this, and he would bring friends out. A lot of times he didn't see it, but a few times they did. And this craft or whatever they were trying to test had these lights or whatever that was there. And he said that lights on these craft were more than likely the interaction between their field and hours. So it wasn't actually

light. Almost like the friction or their radiation. Yes. Which is why often times you'll see red lights is what they say or the yellow lights and green and yeah and that also depends on the atmosphere around it or like from from where you're seeing that craft to where it is that also depends heavily on what color that light will be based on our own atmosphere and not changing the subject but just talking about this as well the aurora borealis yeah green that's radiation based that's radiation and when you look at it it's got the greens i think the blues you know and there it's not just in that area people have seen it in other areas as well, but all those colors are is radiation.

Yeah, and the reason why you mostly see it in a northern hemisphere, and especially towards, you know, we've got two poles in the north. So you've got the physical north pole and you've got the magnetic north pole. And the magnetic north pole has been moving for quite some time. That magnetic north pole, the closer you are to that, the more radiation you get from the atmosphere, which is where the Aurora Borealis or the northern lights or whatever you hear of this, that's why you see this more so in that area of, of the sky because there's more radiation that area based on the poles. Right.

And this is just basically radiation acting against our atmosphere. And that's what's causing the colors. So to me, if you take that and transfer it to these UFOs, I get where you get, you know, people always see, they see lights. You know, a lot of people see they've red, especially over the ocean. Yeah. Is a lot of the red. And red can mean, you know, it might be moisture.

that is coming up. And so whatever, that gas exchange between, I think Bob Bazar said, there is a gas exchange, right? That is when gravity and gravity interact, there's some kind of gas in between that that it creates, almost like a nuclear-type radiation power. And so whatever that light color is, it may change based on how you're looking at it or where you're looking or how far you are. I mean, it's very similar, actually, to the moon. The moon is not necessarily red. it's not, but it's based on how we're looking at it, where we're looking at it from, and our atmosphere, and what's in between us and that moon.

Yes, exactly, because sometimes the moon does. It looks white, it looks red, it changes colors. Yes. And it's not really the moon changing colors. It's our atmosphere looking through, interacting through looking at the moon. Yeah. Now, guys, I want to play you the recent news. This is huge in the news right now. It's Lester Holt's report on this, And this is what a lot of people were like, oh my God, what? All right, so here you go. This is what Lester Holt had to say. About a possible.

Mines the new draft report on UFOs. The Pentagon's expert warning about a possible mothership coming close to Earth. Stay with us. So that's what Lester Holt led with. The NBC Nightingly News the other day, and everyone freaked out. They were like, what? A possible mothership. Yes.

So, and there's one thing, and I hate to call out a doctor from Harvard on this. which we may actually be in the same place he's going to be in soon. But I do want, I am going to touch base on one thing that he says in here. But I want you to hear what there, after Lester Holt said this, this was part of the report

into the UFO mothership thing. And Dr. Avi Loeb, a Harvard guy, he's extensively researching the UFO thing. he talks about it on this report. So let me play you this, and then we'll be right back. Move over Chinese spy balloon or whatever else U.S. fighter jet shot down last month. Tonight out of Harvard University, a draft paper about mysterious flying objects sounding almost like science fiction. I think it's very likely that we are not the most intelligent civilization that ever existed.

Renowned Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb, teaming up with a new head of, of the Pentagon's UFO office dubbed the All-Domain Anomily Resolution Office. Together, they say that interstellar objects detected in space could be signs of extraterrestrial life and that current sky mapping technology like the James Webb Space Telescope could miss such objects. It could have been a mother ship that released some probes in the habitable region around the sun. If we have a visitor to our backyard, we should observe it at first.

Professor Loeb now leading the charge to build better arrays of citizens. to capture anomalies, but saying for now everything is hypothetical, and his paper is really meant to remind UFO hunters not to forget the laws of physics. As much as the reports from military personnel are intriguing and motivate my work right now, I want my instruments to tell me what is really happening. Meanwhile, more videos surfacing showing odd objects have been leaked to documentary UFO filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, who recently released pictures of an orb shape of remosol, and these images showing a cylinder, flying flying.

flying over Iraq. The Pentagon not commenting on the recent videos, but confirming prior videos released by Corbell had been filmed by service members. As for what they are, definitive explanations remain out of reach. Daddy Schwartz, NBC News. And there you go. Thanks for watching our YouTube channel. I'm sorry. That was Avi Loeb and Dr. Avi Loeb at Harvard University. now listen

Avi Loeb is everywhere when it comes UFOs he's going to be at this upcoming contact in the desert or whatever big UFO Expo it's like the UFO UFO UFO Woodstock it's like the Woodstock

UFO thing right place to be yeah and I think that's like June 2nd through 4th but um but yeah it's there's there's one thing though that I think that anytime you get into the

these big doctors, these big people from huge universities. This is something that me and they also talked about the other day. And I'm not saying this is what the case is here. But what I am saying is, anytime you get into these huge universities like Harvard. And one of the things he said here was, let's remind our UFO hunters that we have to remember the laws of physics. Okay.

No. You're wrong. I mean, like, this is where that anyone, anyone that has any, and look, I know that he is very well versed, I guess, in this concept. But, yeah, you have to remember the laws of physics based on what we know of physics on our own planet, number one. So I think if you tried to constrain your research in our laws of physics, you're going to be missing so much. Right. I get what you're saying.

Because we can't, it's just, he's researching laws of physics on this earth. But outside this earth, it could be something completely different. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, that's one of the things Tucker said was, you know, based on a lot of people he's talked to and all of that, there's a lot of stuff that, like, if you start thinking about physics and what we know of physics and even gravity and all these things that we think are the laws of the, universe, right? That's not really the laws of the universe. We know that's the laws of our planet. But there's so much science and so much money that has been contributed to our own planet, but not very much money that's been contributed to figuring out what other laws may be, right?

I mean, laws of a lot of things that we know of laws are theories, and they are from people, doctors, scientists, whoever, that have said these things are probable, but we don't know for sure. And there's also another thing. It's like, okay, well, we know that if anything, and we're not calling out people or doctors in particular or none of these other people, but we do know that the past three years has been very trying time for science. It is proven that if we actually went by science the past three years, we failed. And like, we don't, we need to rethink everything that we've ever thought we knew. And look, and I hope for the sake of science, and I really hope and pray for the sake of just intelligence,

like our best intelligent minds on this planet, I really hope the past three years during the whole pandemic was really all just a giant corruption for money and everybody had to get on board with it and just ignore how smart they really were to go with the narrative. Because if they were actually being smart here, they were the most moronic people we have seen in three years. Right.

Or ever. Ever. So when someone says, we got to remember the laws of physics, no, you don't. You have to forget the laws of physics and start thinking outside the box. How can these things happen? And, you know, and that's why, like, okay, you've got this Harvard guy that's going to NBC Nightly News that says, look, there could be an alien mothership. And there's other reports of, like, there's a possibility. We have, we actually have the reports of our.

satellites and other things that have picked up a some kind of what they don't believe to be a comet or otherwise because it has shifted course a few different times, which makes them believe it is intelligently controlled. There's a reason why they can see like, okay, is this a comet? Because a comet's going to stay on the same path. They can predict the path that's going to go and where it's going to go when and how and how long. but these this this thing that's in our atmosphere in our our solar system this thing has changed course a couple times actually it there was one time it kind of went further away from earth there's another time it went closer earth and now it's just coming closer again kind of like on a trajectory and so that's why this report was written so let me kind of just outline briefly this report well the report basically

says that there's a mysterious object in our solar system that could be an alien mothership that are sending smaller probes to monitor the earth. And this is a new draft, obviously. It was co-authored by the head of Pentagon's UFO Research Office. Sean Kirkpatrick, director of Pentagon's new All-Demain Anomely Resolution Office, put forward the paper in a recently release but still unfamiliarized paper, he wrote, with a long-serving head of Harvard University Astronomy, Abraham Lover, Avi Lowe, the paper explores the idea

the extraterrestrial life is already visiting us in the form of what they call Amomama which in 2017 became the first interstellar object discovered traveling through our solar system

and the authors of Amuamah's extreme flat shape and lack of comet like tell raised the possibility that it was thin and artificial of origin there was also various signs of or sorry various changes in direction and the

Also suggested the IM2 and interstellar meteor that hit the Earth in 2017. Ahead of Amma Mama's closest approach may have been a dandelion seed-style probe released by the object in a move that would be not too disfamiliar from NASA missions. So they believe that this thing that hit the Earth, I guess, was something it released just like NASA would have done. Yeah, on. the probe to see what was going on on this planet. Yeah. And so it says with proper design, these tiny probes would reach the Earth or other solar system planets for exploration. The planet says astronomers would not be able to notice the spray of minimal probes because they do not reflect enough sunlight for existence survey telescopes to notice them.

The paper says parachute-like probes could slow down in Earth's atmosphere to avoid burn up and then pursue their objectives whenever they land. The author suggested that overarching purpose of the journey will likely be scientific and exploratory in nature because they concluded the probes would need to have been launched in the far distant past before observing humans would have even been a consideration, they say, which I don't also necessarily agree with that. And then the paper knows that Harvard's alien-seeking Galileo project with Abraham's Leeds is hoping to recover a 2014 interstellar meteor from the Pacific Ocean, floor. In the coming

year, researchers will determine whether it's extraordinary material strength resulted from it being made out of an artificial alloy, like stainless steel or materials not yet developed by humans. But it's really thin and really light

material. Yeah, and so there's an interstellar meteor from 2014 on the Pacific Coast floor that they're hoping that they will be able to finally get to and observe. But But talking about having this balloon to go into the atmosphere, I don't think these things even need that.

I think they're so... What are you talking about balloon? Well, when it was saying they might need a balloon to slow them down or whatever. No, no, they didn't say balloon. No, they said there's things... Our parachute thing. No, but it acts almost as if that. I mean, it's probably far advanced than a parachute.

But they're just saying it would allow it to get through our atmosphere. Because look, you know, regardless of where you're at, right, if you're an alien life form somewhere else in either our galaxy or otherwise, you know that probably most habitable planets are almost have to be protected by some type of, you know, solar or some type of atmosphere, right? Which is why we have to have special spaceships and all this stuff to get back through our atmosphere because you'll burn up. Right.

So they're obviously going to know that wherever they're coming from. necessary that they would burn up coming into our atmosphere if they're using some type of different propulsion that we're using right well not even propulsion it's just material yeah materials that they're coming through our atmosphere you know if they're using their gravity against our gravity they not necessarily the radiation belt part is going to even hurt them no like it would us like we would naturally die if we went through that belt um um you um you um um you um um um um Yeah, I mean, just alone, yeah, what ourselves, yeah, for sure. Now, there's a congressman that says alien UFO tech is being reverse engineered in secret.

Now, this is something also Tucker talked about, and we got to bring this up with what the congressman here has been saying recently. Sorry. But as Tucker said, when you contract companies like Raytheon and whoever these defense contractors are, you know, think about, well, we've had, you know, defense contractors. contractors in Iraq and in other wars like Blackwater and some of these other companies that they basically have no rules of engagement. And, you know, as U.S. military, you are held mostly under the Geneva Convention and all these things that says that U.S. military rules of engagement is this. And you cannot just randomly kill people based on whatever.

If they come up to you, you can't just shoot them in the face or whatever. And supposedly that's done for humanity's sake, although we've not. known for many years that our drones, especially since our drones have been around, we've killed the hell out of innocent civilians all over the world with drones. Obama was one of the biggest drone murders there was on the planet. We've killed more civilians and drones than ever. But rules of engagement are made to be put in place to save humanity, or at least to look out for the fact of humanity, no matter who we're going after, right? And so you have this thing that this guy is saying, we have technology that is being reverse engineered,

and we have recovered UFO technology that may be being reverse engineering, and he's saying right now, but we don't understand how it functions, according to a U.S. congressman. And to what Tucker's point was, you have these companies like Raytheon and what we're just talking about,

they have really no duty to the point, public. Right. No regulations, no laws. To give you anything. And the government knows that, right? Now, they do have duty to the government, whoever these people that put like the DOD or DARPA or whoever, these secretive and even probably more so secretive government operations, they can then employ higher and And otherwise, these civil and civilian contract companies, which are probably Raytheon, the companies that do weaponry and fighter jets and whatever, and they will contract these companies out to head these, you know, with the supervision of whatever the government agency is. Like these explorations of the things. Yeah, but then, therefore, they don't have to release any information to the public. They don't have any duty to the public. Because it's a private company. Yeah. And really, it's the government control in it. I mean, it's exactly similar.

to how much we're finding out about how much the government actually controls speech through social media, although it is private company. So you can't do anything because it's free speech. Don't matter of private companies, right? But the government is saying, no, you do this and you do this. Because the government's not allowed to say this because of our constitution, right? That's why they just get private companies to do their dirty work. It's the same thing with UFOs.

It is zero difference. As long as they have a contracted company, which already probably makes their weapons and all this, shit. And they say, all right, your engineers and your people, we're going to do this and we're going to bring in as many people as it can. But it's not the government's project. This is y'all's project. Even though it's really the government's project, right? But then they're owed nothing to the people. But do you not think that the government would be worried about secrecy on the part of these private companies? No, because these private companies have to have anybody working. I mean, even with our weapon systems, you know, you have all these people that are cleared,

top secret clearance. You know, I'm talking about you, you mess up. You're going to Leavenworth prison or you're going to be executed. Even though they're civil. These same people work on our nuclear weapons. I mean, it's not military people that develop our nuclear warheads and our most secretive technology. It is private companies. It is companies like Raytheon and they have to go through extreme measures to be checked

out, go through, I mean, like so many people that go through law enforcement and they're like, man, you have to do this, you know, do that, light detector and physical fitness and psychological events. I'm like, that's nothing compared to what these people have to get through in Raytheon and all that stuff. I mean, I'm sure their phones are tapped 24-7. They're everything they ever send is tapped. If they ever even think about mentioning anything they do in real life, they're going to be put in prison or just go missing. Yeah, I mean, this is because these companies and these people have to be held to the highest secrecy of the world.

Because they are developing these same people, these same companies are developing our most secretive weapons on the problem. trying to re-engineer these things. Yeah, but not even that. I'm saying these companies are the companies that are engineering and creating and building the weapons that we have never even heard of, right? I mean, that neither have other countries ever heard of. These companies are the ones that do this stuff. So, yes, they can be trusted with UFO cigarettes.

If they can be trusted with some weapon that we don't even know of that can probably destroy this earth that you think nuclear power is so crazy, I'm sure the United States. government has far more powerful weapon than a nuclear warhead. But anyways, so Representative Tim Burkett from Tennessee, he participated in a meeting in the House Oversight and Reform Committee in the Rayburn House Office building on January 31st of this year in Washington, D.C. about recovered UFO technology that may be being reverse engineered right now. So this is a Tennessee congressman, and he told Newsweek that he believed we have a recovered craft at some point and possible beings.

Okay? So this is a quote. This was in a U.S. House hearing on reverse UFO technology on January 31st. And not only does he say that we have a recovered craft and possible beings. Yeah. I mean aliens, which is also what Bob Lazar said that he saw. Right. And could this be the same incident or is it or is there way more?

Yeah. And are these beings similar to what Bob Lazar saw? Are these different beings? Are they different things from different places? Like, I want to know more about where they come from. Are they all coming from the same place? Are these different aliens coming from all different places? Or is it one group coming here?

Yeah. I don't know. Well, and he goes on to say, he said, I think that a lot of that's being reverse engineered right now is just not being understood. Yeah, because we don't hear. Right. But it's because we don't have those. materials on Earth.

Yeah, you're probably right. I mean, and there's, yeah, without the materials of whatever they're using to create these force fields or these gravity fields or whatever, they're doing their best to reverse engineer. I don't think, I don't think we've done it. I don't think it's possible. Yeah, I mean, I think we're doing it in the 1970s and we couldn't do it then. Or 80s, yeah. Yeah, we can't do it now because we don't have that type of material on Earth unless you

want to go into space and try to mind material that is similar to that or like that. and bring it back to earth, that's the only way you're going to re, you know, redesign these crafts that we create. Yeah. Yeah.

And the thing is, is this whole deal is insanely getting to be something that we just don't understand. They also go on to say we will likely see a rise

and reported UFO sightings going forward. Berkut-Told Newsweek in mid-January, the Office of Director of National Intelligence or DNI published a report on UFOs or unidentified aerial phenomenons. And there had been a total of 510 UAP sightings recorded in 2022, and overall sightings had jumped by 360 since the previously published report, and included new sightings since the previous report, as well as ones that were either discovered or reported late. And just over half of the new sightings were deemed unremarkable. But of the 171 remaining sidings, some appeared to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities and require further analysis.

In Ronald Moultrie, under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security said December 16th that U. U.S. intelligence had not come across anything that would lead us to believe right now that the recent spy balloon incidences or other crafts were UAPs. Yeah, I don't believe that either, do you? No. No, because I don't think we're just going to randomly shoot down easily something that's just hovering around. Right. And I don't think they would hover around like that. I think they have such defense mechanisms on them that we couldn't even shoot them down if we wanted to. Yeah. So, guys, and one of the last things that we want to talk about is, and there's so much to talk about this. We could do this episode a billion times and continue to talk about more. But as Tucker also said in that clip, this is not the first time we've heard of UFOs and UFOs. We've been experiencing this.

And some people say 40 years. Some people say 50 years. No, it's been, I believe, since the last recorded things that we know of in our civilization. Right. Our ancient civilizations have seen some type of UFOs. I mean, it's recorded on walls. Yes. And so one in particular person, Christopher Columbus,

and Pedro Guterres. Now this was in 1492, keep in mind. And they were on the deck of the Santa Maria, obviously very famous ship. And they observed a light glimmering at a great distance. It vanished and reappeared several times during the night, moving up and down, in sudden and passing gleams. It was sighted four hours before land was sighted

and taken by Columbus a sign that they would soon come to land. Even Christopher Columbus, it appears, saw a UFO while patrol on the deck of the Santa Maria at about 10 p.m. on October 11, 1492. And remember, in 1492, we did not have crafts that were flying in the sky at this time. Yes. Columbus thought he saw a light glimmering at a great distance. He hurriedly summoned Pedro Guterres, a gentleman of the king's bedchamber, who also saw the light. and after a short time, it vanished, only to reappear several times during the night, each time dancing up and down in sudden and passing gleams,

and the light first seen four hours before land was sighted. But it was never explained. Now, this was Christopher Columbus's own writings, and not just Christopher Columbus, but there were writings and ancient writings of, well, ancient, but it's not ancient, but 14. 14.992 is a long time ago. Yeah, that's a long time, but even in ancient, ancient civilizations. They had very similar. They had writings of what looks like some kind of craft flying in the sky.

Yeah. And so this is Christopher Columbus Times. This is, they witnessed a craft just so happens once again to be overwater. And so what we're seeing now is not necessarily new, but are the sightings getting more prominent? Or is it that our technology is getting better? And if, just for example, if the sightings are not getting any more prominent, which I think, I think they are, but I don't know. I don't know because now, like you said, technology, we can actually record these things with our phones now. Back in the 70s, 80s and 90s, we didn't even have phones to record anything.

Yeah. You know, and I had those big old video cameras, but I didn't see nothing else. But I'm just saying, we didn't have the technology back then that we do now. And people, you know, if they see something crazy in the sky, they're going to automatically have. have their phone because they have their phone right next to them, they're going to record it. And I'm talking about just civilized, you know, regular people are recording these things every day. Yeah, I mean, the biggest, yeah, you're right. The biggest question for me, though, with this whole thing is, you know, say, for example,

these things have been around since ancient civilization, right? And it's the same things. If these are the same beings, right, the same group, you know, what are they doing? like what what are you guys doing like can you not just come hang out like get out of your damn spacecraft once in raw or you know and I and I

go back to and I'm going to save a lot of this for Robert Shock and people that and although I don't know how much Robert really research is like alien stuff but right but regardless these are questions I'm going to ask him but you know

are these things are they potentially us from the past? Yeah, and I was getting ready to say that. Or I mean, or would they even resemble what we look like? If they were, say, say like the last time that we thought people, like when, when science believes people started to exist and then say 50,000 years before that, what if there were people then? What if there were people even before then? And Earth was just knocked out. And there were various phases and it kept going through these phases.

and then we had more and more civilizations. What if some of these UFOs could be an ancient civilization that somehow found a way to live underwater? And maybe not necessarily underwater, but in the core, in whatever. There's a huge, we did an episode on Hollow Earth. I don't necessarily believe that, but who knows at this point? But, you know, there is a place in the Bahamas called Atlantis for a reason. Yeah.

Which we don't never have it really concreted proof on, it's existence, but there's a lot of research that said that existed. But even before Atlantis, like, think about that. I mean, think about how old the Earth is based on what we believe. What we believe, and I don't even know if we even... Know factually what it is. And how can we know that? Yeah.

How can we know billions of years? Who know? I mean, I don't know. But what we do know is that it's a very good possibility. There's more and more evidence going towards the fact that we had technology. long before we even knew people existed. And this is something that we have to at least consider the possibility of if these things are coming from the ocean, why are they coming from the ocean? But how did we have technology before people existed?

No, I'm talking about there was a whole other civilization before us. Oh, yeah, you're talking about there was a whole another civilization that got knocked out somehow. Yeah, we're even talking about before dinosaurs. Yeah, I agree. I'm talking about well before dinosaurs. I'm talking about there was a whole living civilization back then. I'm saying there's proof now of civilizations that's, and we'll talk to Robert Schock about that because I was reading his book and I was like, wow, this is really crazy.

They have found some really ancient stuff that proved they had technology before they even were settlers and there were still hunters and gatherers. They were not people that settled in one area, but they did build areas where they would come together for, you know, worship or ceremonies or whatever they did. way, way back then, but I won't get too in depth with that, but I think that we're way older than what we thought. Well, Sherry and I were talking about, too, and I'm going to sound nuts, but, um, I mean, I already know what you're going to say.

If we... Nope. Don't say it. But listen. But listen, I mean, I'm one of those people. It's like, we got to figure this shit out. Someone's got to figure it out. Like, I understand we're getting videos of this.

And like, let's think of this practically for just one second, right? Now, there's something I always learned when I was in management, right? And I had to be over a bunch of people, you know, in work, right? And especially my first management job, I guess, it was like, it was kind of weird because I had to, which it did teach me a lot about my own life and how to do things and how to make things happen and whatever. One of the things that management was, and I just so happened to have this psycho, well, this wasn't my first management job, but I had this psycho manager over top of me. She was the manager of the manager. Yeah.

And, you know, she did, I guess, teach me some things about, like, this is how you need to manage or lead, right? And there are things that although some of these people can be very influential, very powerful in their own way. They're very opinionated. They're very all these things. They think that they're this and this and this. These are the things you have to do because of this. And what is your goal? What is the mission you're trying to accomplish?

And how are you going to engage that mission, right? Because you're not going to depend on them or wait on them to tell you how to do it. You have to figure out how we're going to do this and try it. Because if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But someone has to try something. And if we're always following but never leading into a new path of possible. ability, then we're never going to ever know anything different. Right.

And so, you know, I do see all of these experts that go to these conferences and they study whatever they're studying and, you know, they're waiting on the Pentagon reports and they're waiting on all these things. But why are we waiting? Can we not figure out a way to attract these things to be able to somehow... Oh, I get where you're going with this. Somehow figure this out on our own. Let's make our own plans. Screw the government. Let's figure it out, right?

Well, it's kind of like Skin Walker Ranch. That's what they're doing. Yeah, they're kind of doing that without the government. They're doing this and providing information, but they're getting really good information. Maybe the government had it before. Maybe they didn't. I wonder if the government would let us borrow a nuclear warhead to put on our boat to where we could go out in the ocean. I knew you're going to say that.

This is our plan, y'all. I'm just saying, like, give us a nuclear warhead. We will bring it right back. We promise. We just need it. We can't, like, launch it or anything. We just need it to, you know, We don't have the codes.

We just need it on our boat. Yeah, we need to entice aliens to come to our boat. Yeah, and we're going to also figure out ways, other ways that we might be able to attract these things, maybe really bright lights that penetrate deep down into ocean, some kind of insane laser, like military-grade lasers. But I need some kind of radiation suit or something. But yeah, we definitely need radiation suits, probably like metal that is unpenetrable from radiation. We'll have to figure that out. And, I mean, there's some things you'd have to figure out before you get on a boat with a nuclear. Warhead. Obviously, you've got to figure out where you're going to get a nuclear warhead from,

which is probably not the United States, but maybe Iran, their first, or North Korea, maybe we could go call Kim Jong-un. See, we'll let us borrow one, and we'll stay right off the coast. This is what I don't get, Chad, is like, people that have actually, I feel, have been abducted and put on spaceships. Why didn't they die? Why didn't they get brain damage? It might have been a different craft, a different... Or a different alien or a different place. But listen, also, we have to think about this.

And I don't know to this either. I mean, this is just theory, right? This is complete theory. But you think about Walton. What is his name? Anyways, Travis Walton. The infamous story about his abduction. And the Fire in the Sky movie was based on that.

And he went out. He was a part of a logging crew. for those of you to not know the story but he was a part of a logging crew and they went out he actually didn't get along with a couple of the guys on his crew there was like five or six up them I think and so when he got abducted

in these woods they all were there that night they were leaving late there was this massive bright light in the middle of this woods that they were like what in the hell is that Travis decided he was going to get out and go look for I would probably do the exact same thing especially

you know back then like you have no idea what's going on. And the other dudes are running the other way. No, they're not running. Well, yeah, they're not running. They're just like, what the hell is he doing? Right. They basically see him being abducted and he just disappears. And then the police were investigating especially the two people that did not get along with him for murder.

And then seven days later, or how many every days it was, he appears in his underwear and some whatever and... And he tells this story. Yeah, he's crazy. He tells this crazy story about being abducted. Everybody corroborates his story. And So, you know, could these...

Because I actually believe this story. I mean, you know... Oh, I do too. But how did he survive? Barney and Betty Hill, that's another story. How do all these people survive with the radiation when other people can't? I think they survive because, look, if these are the same life forms, the same UFO groups, right? We don't know that they are.

But if they are, well, we have to think about it maybe this way, right? these a lot of these crafts that are showing up at either military bases or war zones near nuclear power or nuclear weapons they may see our soldiers as threats so they don't give a damn they're there to just come down and they're like well if they get close enough they're going to die so it doesn't really matter to us they're not going to affect us but then they see these people out in the middle of the woods cutting trees or whatever and they just want to maybe these are people that are going after just to try to investigate who they are scientific experiments on them or something. Maybe they stop some kind of power. Or maybe they're just a different propulsion system. We don't know. But we also know that there are 100% Department of Defense and Pentagon reports have said that other people, people that have claimed to be abducted or claim to come in close encounters, close encounters with craft,

not necessarily military. They didn't even say military. They said people, civilians. Some of these people had radiation burns. They had massive rashes. They had sometimes brain. injuries. Sometimes they went on to have seizures throughout their life. I mean, there was a lot of things. These are in these are an actual Pentagon documents declassified now. This is not talking about military.

These talks about civilians. And so we know that people do have some kind of reaction or some kind of thing that our bodies cannot handle. To the radiation or something. Yes. And that makes sense because we don't understand, you know, they may be not immune to it, but their systems, their body may be aware of this. Maybe they have suits themselves. We don't know, right? We just don't know. They might thrive off radiation.

Who knows? Yeah, they may. We don't know. But it's just very interesting that, you know, to me, I feel like radiation is involved with the way their crafts do whatever they do. There is radiation. Yeah, at least some kind of disruptance and maybe your brain waves. But almost like if we think about what we think of radiation,

and keeping in mind, too, radiation, nuclear power, all these things coincide. They go together. And we also know that nuclear power and radiation is a very common thing in space. Well, you've got to think about our sun. That's where we get most of it is our sun. Yeah, radiation, nuclear. And what if they're looking for a new sun? I mean, I don't know.

No, but you're right. I mean, you're right. You're right. You're right. To me, it feels like these things are after radiation or nuclear power or whatever. And I think about our sun, and our sun is the most abundant radiation coming out around us. Yeah. Well, we had talked about something the other day when we were driving to, and, you know, I know this also kind of sounds crazy.

I don't want to sound crazy about this, but, you know, we do see all these things. We acknowledge these things. You know, our military is acknowledging these things. And, you know, is it possible that they have a wavelength into, I mean, I know this sounds nuts, but into our media, into our audio, into our wavelengths, our Wi-Fi's, our brain signals. We don't know. Right. Right. And that's the way everything I think in this universe, or at least the solar system works, is through wavelengths.

That is everything. That's the way we hear. That's the way we see. That's the way our brain processes things. If we touch a hot stove, there is a message that goes from our brain to our finger to take your finger off the stove. It's all wavelength messages. Yeah, pain mechanism. Yeah, and it's the same thing with, you know, there's people that claim to be telepathic or claim to be psychics or...

That's me. Whatever. I swear to God, I have a little bit of it. Well, yeah. I mean, you've called some things before. But, yeah, I mean, I'm talking about there's people that really feel like they can just talk to you. I don't know. I don't believe a lot of that stuff,

but I do think there probably are people that can unlock more of their brain. And honestly, I think what we're missing, for the most part, as human beings is, I mean, if you think about what is the reason why we can only access so much of our brain? 10% of our brain.

But then you talk about the DMT, which is, you know, DMT is a naturally occurring drug or a chemical that is released by our pineal gland. animals have it more. We've talked about that before. And then that's why animals have like a different sense. They know when storms are coming. They know before something happens. They have

that sense. And there's a lot of animals that do. I mean, there is a ton of animals that have senses of all kinds of sense. Oh, even our dogs. Yes. And, you know, magnetic poles even affect animal behavior. And, you know, with the magnetic pole that has been moving over the course of time, people have questioned and have been concerned about the pole's flipping because it could be catastrophic to the world and all this stuff. And that is a possibility. It does actually happen. Some people say over 700,000 years. There are others that say it could happen every 300,000 years. But I think the last time it happened, they think, is like 300,000 years about. And we're very close to that time frame again. But I just really feel like if any of that happens, it comes from the main source, which is our son. And this is where you get these blasts of radiation that change things to me. Radiation is what changes everything.

Yeah. I don't know. Radiation plays a big key role. But we just got to figure out there's so much to be investigated. There's so many ways that we could investigate. Like if the government and money, if these, if this government or private corporations spent the amount of money that they spent the past three years on, well, they didn't really spend a ton of money. If they spent all the money they made off the pandemic the past three years, we might actually be able to figure out what the hell of these things are.

Like, we really put research money into taking boats of nuclear power, maybe even doing some, I mean, I don't want to say some craziness, but doing some kind of either controlled explosion underneath the water, doing whatever you can do to attract these things out, to be able to somehow monitor and study and control, and not control, and study them. And do it like in a controlled environment. As much as you can.

as much as you can. But then again, maybe the government knows more than we know about these things, and they're not trying to screw with them that much. We don't know. Right. Because like Tucker said, you know, every nation is a nation because of their controlled airspace. Right. And we really don't have that. No.

Yeah, we don't have a safe nation anywhere on this earth. No, not from these things. No. As right now until they... Because they come in and out of our airspace when they want to. Yeah. Right now, it's just we're at the mercy of whatever these things are. Obviously, they are more technologically advanced than we are.

They are more powerful than we are. They're obviously probably smarter than we are. But are they a version of us in our very ancient history that we don't even know about. Or could they be our future. Yeah, exactly. That could be a whole other thing. But when we talk to Robert Shock and when we are able to talk to some others, but Robert Shock I'm excited about, and I don't know how much he is, you know...

Into that. Knows that. We have a lot of great conversation to talk to him about. Yeah, and I really want to get to that because, you know, I know Robert is very I know his main thing is very intellectual very studied very data driven

yeah data driven and trying to to do the best he can as far as figuring out physically like what he thinks of these things and you know he has a lot of great analysis on that but I have to bring up like okay well if this is possible like how possible is it beyond that like could

how big could this be like could we actually still have civil civilizations here that we don't even know about, that are more advanced that said screw the outside people. I don't know. That sounds crazy. Well, we know there's civilizations that we can't even get near on this earth. And if you get near, then they're going to kill you. Yeah, like tribes. Yeah, like tribes that we still don't really, they don't even know we hardly exist. There are tribes that still don't know we exist. And I'm assuming they probably go, you know, about everything with astrology and the way the sun and the stars move, just like our ancestors did.

But you know the interesting thing about those tribes that we talk about that we barely know exist or they barely know we exist is that they're very non-technological. I mean, they're not because they would almost have to connect with the outside world to be that. And so it's like, okay, well, obviously they're not from the past, right? They're just part of our thing that has never come on board with our technology. But obviously, if there's something that is that technologically advanced that can have craft, and to Tucker's point to this, is move at 100. hundreds of knots underwater, which is extremely fast underwater. That's nuts. And honestly, if you have a gravitational filled craft, you could realistically move at

light speed underwater if you needed to. I don't know. You can't really, I mean, because you would run into shit, I guess. But you know what I'm saying. And getting to other civilizations that are not technologically advanced, you got to think about the pyramids. You're talking about something that is like. humanly impossible to make.

Yeah, almost even still now. I mean, it's not impossible, but it, the amount of work. Even with the machines we have and the way we can help labor, you know, we've made machines to help us labor things with, you know, wedges and all that stuff. You know, real machinery, it would still be really hard to build these pyramids. Yeah, and I think also to Graham Hancock's point and his documentaries and stuff that all these things that are probably underground now, They used to be cities. And we don't know how much trauma this earth has suffered. I mean, if there were other civilizations, say two, three, four, five civilizations,

we don't even know about how much stuff has happened in between then, ice ages, dark ages, volcano eruption. Maybe they had nuclear weapons or some kind of crazy weapon back then that they destroyed the earth. We could have been more technology advanced back then than we are now. And some people will say, well, why would you not find anything now? Well, not necessarily. I mean, you had to think that eventually over thousands of years, whatever

would have existed for a large part, with exception of maybe massive rock formations and stuff like that, either you have erosion or especially man-made physical-built things will just disintegrate over time. And you think about what we have now, we have like statues and stuff, but that doesn't really tell about our technology.

No, no. If we were to be distinct right now, now, you know, and what our world shows. You think about what our world shows, statues that will remain. I'm thinking about Abraham Lincoln Memorial. I'm thinking about really big memorial places. Yeah. But then you think about a sphinx and, you know, and all that stuff,

which we're going to talk about to Robert about. And then you even talk about things that are what we believe is ancient, but are, you know, Egyptian times and Roman times. and some of these things that they created, which was basically airplane models. Right. That showed all the same things that we know of how airplanes work today. Exactly.

Very, very ancient civilizations that were hunters and gatherers that were creating these pieces. Yeah, that showed that they knew this, right? And so we just don't know what really existed back in a day. But I think we've covered a lot of this tonight. We're going to continue to cover this. This is one of the most intriguing, as I said, the most intriguing things that we know of or we love and care about so much. And, you know, this summer.

It's a history of us. Yeah. Really. Yeah, this summer, we're going to try to do some really cool things, like investigative-wise. We're going to really try to get out there and do some video, do some interviews, whether it be out in the Midwest, whether it be trying to board a fishing charter out in the middle of the ocean to try to see if we can see something. I mean, we want to do some crazy stuff like that. And maybe connect with some other UFO researchers or whatever. The case may be, we want to do stuff like that.

Or maybe even get a group together and go and do something really cool. Yeah. We're going to do something like that. But guys, I think that's going to do it for this episode of Investigator Earth. We love each and every one of you. Anything you guys think about or have on the UFO topic, please send it to us contact and investigateearthpodcast.com. You can always find us on Twitter and truthworldorder.com. is our site that we're going to be publishing these very exclusive podcasts on very soon.

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