Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts | MH370 Pt2 With Ashton

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

The mystery surrounding the disappearance of MH370 has left countless individuals worldwide grappling with unanswered questions. The notion of an entire airliner vanishing into thin air seems unfathomable. In this intriguing Part 2 episode, we embark on a comprehensive exploration of the various theories, joined by our esteemed guest, Ashton. Ashton, a dedicated citizen journalist, has unearthed astounding revelations regarding the potential fate of this aircraft. Are we confronted with the possibility of extraterrestrial involvement, with UFOs potentially playing a role, supported by compelling evidence? Alternatively, could this enigmatic incident be attributed to the clandestine workings of a government program? Join us as we delve deeper into these captivating possibilities. All of this and more on this episode of UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts | MH370 Pt2 With AshtonAshton's X PageOur FacebookOur XOur InstagramInvestigate Earth Rumble

We shop for so, so. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host, Chad, along some of my beautiful wife, Sherry. Sherry, say what's up to the people? I'm saying what's up to the people, and I got to let you know that we just interviewed Ashton, and I felt very inferior because I'm talking to two geniuses, and I was like, tongue twisted. You might be talking to one genius, which is Ashton, but...

But I was, like, really tongue twisted because when you guys are, like, all in that information to that extent, I was like, oh my gosh. I just text my friend. I was like, oh, I didn't do as good on this one because they were so good. But you were good. This is an amazing podcast. You cannot, I'm telling you, it's going to be awesome. Yeah, guys, welcome to the show. It is October the 5th, 2023. We are heading in the fall, getting cooler out there. It is about 8 o'clock p.m. here on the east coast of the United States of America. And we got a really, really good episode for you guys. tonight. We're not going to bore you with a long intro. We just want to say that this episode is

about the missing Malaysian Air Flight 370 MH370. There has been so much stuff come out about MH370. This happened back in around 2014 to where a airliner carrying so many people disappeared and basically vanished into thin air. And so all of this new evidence has come out. This is something that Ashton has been pushing very hard. What Ashton believes and many others to believe to be irrefutable evidence that this aircraft vanished out of the sky. It did not crash. It did not go into the ocean.

This thing, it looks like vanished. Is it from UFOs or UAPs? Is it from our government? Is it from another government? We don't know. But Ashton is going to break all of this down here just shortly. But guys, I want to let you guys know that. that before we get into this episode, follow us on our X.

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We have so much to talk about. We have Russia that is talking about their first ever nuclear-powered cruise missile and that they potentially are going to be testing a nuclear missile or a nuclear bomb soon. we have the West in battle with the East. There's all of this stuff that's coming up. We've got Friday the 13th in October. We've got full moons. We got Halloween.

We got some crazy kids. Yeah. There's so much stuff going on, guys. But listen, without further ado, I want to get into the interview. This is with Ashton. I think he does an amazing job in this interview. And guys, I think this may reshape what you think about, what we know of reality. And, you know, if as you listen that you believe the accounts from Ashton

and many others that have also shared this information, it does make you think. It makes you kind of question a lot of things. And I think this podcast, this is what we aim to do. We just want the truth. That's all we want. That's why we started this five years ago. That's why we built a huge audience. And we thank each and every single one of you, any of you new listeners, if you are new to the podcast and you like stuff like this. We do this all the time. We talk about stuff like this. We talk about the things the mainstream media do not want to talk about. And so without further ado, here is our interview with Ashton. All right, guys, we are here with Ashton. Ashton, how's it going? Been what, about a month

since we had you on. Yeah, hey, Chad and Sherry. Great to come back. Good to be here with you guys again. Yeah, absolutely. So Ashton, give us a little backstory, right? So number one, we did a podcast with you. It was about a month ago where we talked about some of your findings with MH370, a lot of the crazy revelations. This thing was really getting big, really getting a lot of steam on X, on many social media platforms, Reddit, the like. And I know you've had a lot to kind of do with pushing this forward as far as, you know, what some of the things people are finding are. These videos came out, these inferexies, satellite imagery, all of this stuff. Just give us a brief backstory of how the whole MH370 thing came about again, right?

Because it's been, what, 2012? 2014 is when the videos emerged. And that's when the plane went missing. Okay, yeah, okay. So give us a little backstory. Obviously, MH370 went missing, and it was a Malaysian Airlines flight. And give us a little of the mystery behind the disappearance. Well, this plane went missing on March 7th, UTC or March 8th, depending on how you look at it.

And the big thing about that plane was that there was no plane found after the largest, most extensive search in history. And the big mystery there is that this plane of this size crashing into the ocean should have left a giant debris field that would have had bodies, parts of the plane, seat cushions, luggage, floating around everywhere, visible from space for days. and nothing was found, not a single thing. They had a few pieces of debris that washed up on Reunion Island and in South Africa a year, year and a half later. And as it turns out, from looking at the debris, only one piece was conclusively tied to the plane, but not with a unique serial number.

So we have essentially just a missing plane that was nowhere to be found, and we're nine years later now. So the real question is, what really happened to this plane? Yeah. And as we've had emerged here around August 8th, were two videos that are dated back to just weeks after the plane disappeared. And these videos seem to show Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 being sworn by three orbs, I'm going to call them, and then disappearing into what I will call an intermediate black hole

and disappearing entirely out of space time. So now fast forward to where we are now, I last talk to you guys several weeks ago, and the investigation has progressed pretty significantly since then. And we have a much better idea of the picture of what happened to this plane given that these videos are authentic. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, we had talked obviously a lot last time about, you know, what could have happened, you know, what were some of these things. Now, I was actually explaining this a little bit to my mom. My mom is 77 today, right?

And so it was kind of strange because when you tell mom, I was like, mom, do you remember MH370? And she's like, yeah, this plane disappeared, right? I was like, yeah. It's like, what if I told you, right, that there has been some videos that appear to have UFOs surrounding this aircraft, right? And she was like, what? But you know what the weird thing was is that she wasn't, it wasn't crazy to her, right? Because we are in 2023 now. We have more and more information coming out about UFOs and UAPs than we've ever had.

And I actually do think we went back and forth in this in our podcast. Like, is there more sightings or is it just that we are more aware, have more technology? I personally think there's more sightings. But so these videos, explain a little bit about the videos that came out from MH370. What were the videos? Where were they coming from? Was it satellite infrared? How did all that work?

Yeah, the oldest versions, archive versions on the web seem to come from a source called Regicide anon, which seems to be a UFO account that would post random UFO videos. The date on the satellite video, which is the earliest one that came out, which describes it as satellite video in the description, says that it was received by Regisided On March 12, 2014, which is just four days after the disappearance of the plane. The upload date on that is May 19, 2014, which is several weeks after. We presume that the leaker was potentially trying to convince Regicitedon that this footage was real, because as you just pointed out, it seems, too incredible to believe, even for people that believed in UFOs at the time. I think that in order for us to understand these videos to be real, we had to fast forward potentially even to today nine years later to have the basis and collective conscious

rise enough to think that this could be possible. Certain things were required. The 2017 DoD Navy leaks that showed us what Fleer, infrared military videos would look like. We had to see the 2019 satellite Trump leak, which shows USA-2007,000. which was sent up in the same year, we believe the satellite that took our satellite video was taken at USA-229. And we have to even understand concepts that we have only emerged in the last few years, which is superconductivity, LK99, AI, which we see in chat GPT that people are using commonly now as well. So in order to get to where we are today and understand Zadu is real, we have to understand all this information. and only now can we look at it and say, oh, this actually may make sense.

Versus 2014, we had the basis for none of that. Yeah. Now, can you tell me, and I'm going to ask questions that probably people are going to ask. Right now, there are going to be a subset of people that listen to this episode that know everything that you have covered so far.

They're going to know exactly everything. But we also have to make sure that we make sure that the people that don't have an idea. Just kind of get the picture. How far off of the coast was this aircraft about when it disappeared? Yeah, so I'll do a quick rundown to the flight path and it will take very long. The plane took off at 1630 UTC from Kuala Lumpur, and it was flying northeast to Beijing. At 1721, which is roughly 50 minutes later, it essentially disappeared off a primary radar and went completely dark.

at that point it turns around and flies across Malaysia directly at Penang-Lankawi International Airport, which is the closest airport that can accommodate a 7-77 in an emergency situation. At 1752, it gets over Penang-Lankaii Airport and does not land. Keep in mind it's pretty much in the middle of the night at this point, and the airport's probably closed. So it's a little bit of a mystery as why it didn't land. Now it continues to fly past the airport and go off into the ocean at this point. at a northwestern general direction. And the last radar contact from Malaysia is at 1822 UTC

at about 230 miles off of the coast. Okay. Now, it keeps flying and goes to the Nicar Bar Islands. And at roughly 1840 UTC in the Nicarbar Islands is where we presume that these videos are being taken. This is actually the exact location where the official narrative says that this plane turned into the South Indian Ocean given the Imerstat Pings. So our conclusion is that this plane simply did not fly into the South Indian Ocean where there was no debris found, nobody saw it, there's no sightings there, and instead it disappears out of space time, as we see in our videos. So our flight path now pretty well coincides with the official narrative up until that location, and then everything after that location is either incorrect or spoofed or potentially just misinterpreted.

If this plane was teleported, then potentially those pins are still correct, but they're just in the wrong location on the world. So how did you come with this new conclusion of it didn't? Maybe you did kind of explain that, but how did it come from what you thought to what it is now? Yeah, the new flight path versus kind of what you're thinking. And we don't want to go, you know, to the newest, newest stuff. But yeah, explain that. Yeah. So two answers.

First of all, I want to give you guys an apology because I've, feel like I was a little bit rude last time and insistent upon this plane being vaporized or disintegrated from the face of the earth. And the first thing that we realized there is we took three different scenarios. We said annihilation events. And we looked at that and said, the problem with that is that E equals MC squared. So if this was an annihilation event, it's destroying the plane. The explosion would have been much more significant, so significant from the amount of mass

that it would have potentially destroyed part of the planet. Yeah. So that actually got me moving away from the annihilation event scenario. The next one was some type of cloaking technology. And we thought even if you could cloak every single electromagnetic single from the plane and make it disappear in some type of magic trick, the problem is the exhaust trail we see behind it stops as well. That exhaust would have continued if the plane had been, you know, gone invisible because you would not be able to make the exhaust itself go invisible. So that left us with only one option, teleportation.

And what that would mean is that what we see in this intermediate black hole in our video is some type of wormhole that is technology previously incomprehensible to us. Now, with respect to where this happened, when I last talked to you guys, I had looked through all 300 pages of Richard Godfrey's Whisper Report. And I think we even talked about how the Whisper Report data works. It was actually highly contested as to whether or not you could use Whisper data to track a plane like this. part of the reason is because they're trying to use old signals to recreate a flight path and use the emmerstap pings as kind of their guide. Now, if those pings are not correct, then essentially it's a fool's errand where you're not tracking what you think you're tracking. And the big takeaway that changed the investigation was that a person on Reddit realized that by looking at the coordinate shifts,

we could actually tell the direction of travel of the plane, regardless of what we're visually seen in the video. Yeah. And what it told us is that this plane is going south into the east in our video. And because this plane is turning left in both videos, this means that the real location of where this is occurring cannot be in the South Indian Ocean, as if there was a minus sign in our coordinates. And it said there's no minus sign in our coordinates. And that means that the real location is the Nicarbar Islands, which is where the flight had, quote, unquote, turned into the South Indian Ocean. Now, the moment that we realized that everything started to come together, The satellite that we presumed was taking the video in the South Indian Ocean was not there at the right time. However, it was there at the right time in the right location for the Nicobar Islands location. In addition to that, we also found a witness, Kate T, who had reported seeing a glowing orange plane as she was on a boat going from India to Phuket, Thailand. She was directly underneath the route of the plane, according to everyone's flight path. She sees the plane actually go in a counterclockwise circle around her plane, which is consistent with what we see in our video as well.

So this led us to believe that this has to be the right spot. We've got the video of the satellite at the right time. We've got a witness as well. And the other big thing we discover from the satellite is that what we're looking at here is a 3D stereoscopic image, meaning that the regicide footage, there's two scrunched together videos. It looks like it's duplicated. It is not duplicated.

They are two different cameras from two different points in space. And there's only a few satellites that had this configuration. The NOS satellites, Naval Ocean Surveillance satellites, are some of the only satellites that have this configuration. And of them, the ones that were sent up around the time where we think they would have this type of advanced capability, there was really only two options, USA 238 and USA 229. However, we looked at all the satellites.

and the one that seems to be in the correct location at the correct time looking down at this plane is USA 229. And we also were able to take those two videos, relay them over the top of one another, and create a literal 3D video where you can put on 3D glasses and watch it. There is no chance that the person who quote unquote would have hoaxed these would have been able to create a perfect 3D video better than potentially Marvel Studios within a period of less than 72 days, potentially less than 4 days. is. Wow. This is so crazy. Like all this data that you're coming up with and now it's finally making sense with everything you guys have gathered, you know, because before there was some, you know, kind of some questions that were asking. Well, yeah, of course. Everyone tried to debunk and all that. And I think, you know, the problem was no one ever debunked the videos. And there were some attempts, but that, you know, we talked about it on the first episode.

Now, let's break down some of what you said because I think we have to. I think people are going to register it, but I want to make sure people understand this. And I have some points as well. So a plane made a term. So after it left radar, after we had radar loss, right? No, no, we can not see this aircraft on radar anymore. Was there also zero communications with that aircraft at that time? So technically, Malaysia did track something.

But they were tracking it, I believe, on a secondary radar, which is why they claimed they didn't know necessarily what they were tracking. In addition to that, we believe there must be in some electromagnetic interference that was causing this plane to go dark. The reason for that is if you look at the radar data, it's all over the place. This plane is doing stuff that the plane cannot do. The most logical course of the plane is a cruising altitude at a consistent speed. And yet the radar data has it going up and down in elevations that it can potentially not do anymore. So with respect to the flight path here, then, you know, it seems like it's much more simplistic than what we're we would have otherwise imagined from the radar out of there.

Go ahead. No, no, I was agreeing. And I want to make a point, too, you're saying electromagnetic interference. We got to talk of a little bit briefly about UFOs, UAPs, and all of the credible evidence we have for UFO encounters, UAPE encounters, whether it be with pilots or witnesses or, you know, just take the most credible accounts. number one, we know that there's always radiation involved. And number two, we know that there is some type of electromagnetic field that is also always involved. And we've also heard about the ability for UFOs, especially over military bases, to be able to disconnect or disarm nuclear weapons or facilities.

We also know they can also activate nuclear facilities or nuclear weapons. And this is something that is huge because to your point, you know, with the technology even back then in 2014 is not that long ago you know the there are certain parts of the ocean to where certain aircraft are untrackable in certain ways right you've got to check in with with various international check-in points and but essentially the electromagnetic interference makes a lot of sense as far as you know the fact that number one it went off radar number two that it had no longer or had no longer or had no longer or had no longer. more communications with ATC or whoever. And I just wanted to point out that, you know, this is something that the most credible witnesses for UFOs, UAPs, including military or or government, often always say. And I just want to make a point of that. How much have you thought about that as far as this whole investigation goes?

Yeah. And one thing on the communications part is that it could be that the communications were jammed. It could also be that this plane was in control. and that communications didn't happen for a reason or that there were communications, but they had been classified. There's quite a bit of evidence as well that this was a planned event, that there is a lot of evidence that this could be UFO related, of course, as well. But the more I've looked into it, the more evidence we've been covered is seems very suspicious how everything happened. The main question that people ask is, why was the drone filming? Why was it there?

And when you look at it, it looks almost like when they're filming it, they're expecting something to happen there. This drone cannot catch up to the plane. The drone flies at a maximum of 175 miles per hour. The plane can fly up to 600 miles per hour. The satellite is only in position for five minutes or so. So it would have had been operationalized. Now, if you believe in the UFO encounter narrative, then what that means here is that they were reacting to an emergency event

and trying to help the plane or whatever they were trying to do. And they happen to catch this, you know, incomprehensible event on camera at just the right time. If you believe that this is potentially something that is espionage related, then this was planned potentially all the way from the beginning. And it's really hard to tell. It's not that I'm on one side of the fence or the other. And that's kind of the beauty of the mystery of these videos and the event in general

is that even with all the evidence that we have right now, it doesn't point conclusively to one particular narrative. Yeah, we were actually talking about this last night. You know, we've done a ton of UFO UAP episodes. We've had a lot of guests on in the realm or in that field. And, you know, we're actually planning on, by the way, this month, we are going on a UFO UAP investigation with a research vessel off the coast of Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina to where we're going to have Fleer and other camera systems,

along with some other things. We've planned this for a while. Actually, our listener base kind of brought everything together. And we're specifically going out in the generalizing. area where Ryan Graves and his F-18 squadron would often encounter UAPs and UFOs. And also just to that point, not only Ryan Graves, but Commander Fravor and others, you know, when they would encounter these things, they, you know, the UIPs or UFOs, whatever you want to call them, would jam radars.

They would jam basically all of their instrumentation in their aircraft. And that's why I ask, you know, the possibility of the, you know, the blackout, right, with MH370. But you talk about this drone, right? And you also talk about the government involvement, or not necessarily a government involvement, but some type of espionage activity, you would have to be saying there

that a government would have the technology to be able to, for example, a lot of the UAPs or UFOs that we are experiencing are seeing now, that narrative you would have to say, well, there is some government that has that technology. And not only do they have that technology, but they would be willing to use it against an airliner. Yeah.

And so is that kind of what you're saying? I mean, and you're right. There's probably two options. You either have the UFO, UAP thing, right? It's not government. It's not any, you know, China, Russia, United States. Or it is one of the countries that have reverse engineered craft that are using them, right? I mean, is that kind of what you're saying?

Yeah. And I would also propose it to you is that, you know, what do you think in terms of Is that something that could be viable that we've actually reverse engineered in the black projects of the military? Technology is so advanced that they could teleport a plane. Initially, I thought that was actually more unbelievable than a non-human intelligence disappearing in the plane. But the more I've looked into it and looked into the science, wormhole technology has been theoretically proven by at least three different scientific papers, not just wormhole technology. Humanly traversable wormholes. that you will not die if you go through them

and that there could be a shell that gets created by some type of catalyst that does not use exotic material that can allow an object to travel through a wormhole. I thought that was just science fiction until I started reading the scientific papers about it. And then again, when you take into the concepts of superconductivity, which I believe humanity is on the verge of right now

and artificial intelligence, it seems less and less unbelievable that nine years ago that, you know, the U.S. military or another government could have technology like this. Yeah. And when I look at those orbs, when I see that move, it seems like they clearly have purpose. They're doing something to the plane. And they're so exact and precise in their graphical movements that it does not seem like they're being operated by any type of organic being. It seems more likely that they're either balls of energy or low amounts. of mass that are creating a field around them to create the orb effect that we see.

And I'm not sure that they're actually even visible to the human eye, considering the fact that they're both in infrared. So we since then have looked as well into what would they be that motive? And I think the obvious motive, if it is, some type of espionage scenario would be for control of the very technology that we see in the videos. Because whoever controls this type of technology will control military supremacy of the world. Absolutely.

So we found out that there were 24. free-scale semiconductor scientists or very important people at free-scale semiconductors, as well as a patent for advanced military technology. So if you do subscribe to the idea that this is espionage, then the motive here is

to prevent this type of intellectual property from getting to China. Because theoretically you have a shadow war between governments that is to control this technology. Yeah, so to your point, and I'm not going to go too deep. And we have on our podcast and

some aspects. I've been around and in aviation for how many years now, probably 20, I guess, probably 20 years. And so, you know, oftentimes when we talk about UFOs or EPs, I'm always coming from the aviation perspective, right? And one of the things, and I've also been around and worked around and, you know, military aviation in all aspects. And so that's one of the things I always say is like, you know, even Commander Fravor and Ryan Graves, you know, they are in control of military fighters, which are F-18s. They're some of the most advanced fighters we have. But, I mean, you would have to talk to an F-22 or F-35 pilot that really is behind the most advanced technology, quote-unquote, that we have.

The thing is, like, you know, saying that, you know, we have a government or a system. Because in my opinion, if a government had this technology, and I would say probably more than likely the United States would be, the one that would have that. And the only reason I'm saying that is because you got Raytheon, you've got all these companies that are highly connected to the United States. We know that they're, you know, even David Grush, when he came out and talked about some of these companies that are reverse engineering craft. There's a lot of whistleblowers now, I think 40 plus that have since come forward and said,

yes, I have worked on reverse engineering programs. We have crashed retrieval programs. And, you know, David Grush, it appears, wasn't necessarily lying. To your point, though, like, I feel like, you know, not to get political, but it's just knowing how bad politics and politicians are now, whatever side, right or left, and knowing also the military industrial complex and knowing that, you know, war equals money. It seems to me, though, that, like, if we had that technology to do stuff like that, like Russia would be gone right now. Ukraine wouldn't probably even be struggling with Russia at all. I mean, it would just have been over if that's what we really want. You know, there's a lot of those aspects.

I just feel like if we had that technology as people, and especially as a lot of POS politician people, I feel like they're 100% going to use that for very bad, and they're going to do it very fast. And that's just kind of, that's part of my opinion. And Sherry, what did you want to say? Well, excuse me, I was going to ask in both scenarios that, we're talking about, why would we find a part of the plane?

I'm still very confused about that. To me, that would be a cover story. Right, Ashton, what do you think? So, yeah, so let's talk about the debris, right? So first of all, this is teleportation, then that can still just be part of MH370, right? The plane shows up somewhere else, take the plane apart, throw a piece of the ocean. Now, keep in mind, only one piece of the plane was conclusively tied to the MH370, the flapper, run. And this is not really widely reported, but they did not use a unique serial number

to tie that to the plane. If you look it up and you can Google it yourself, you'll find out that the unique serial plate was missing. And this is a plate that's bolted onto the piece. Yeah. So it's pretty unusual, especially given the fact that GA Telesis bought a, basically a copy of MH370 in October 2013, and GA Telethysus has been highly connected to intelligence and military. That is essentially a copy of this plane. Now, that copy of the plane could have been used to plan this event. It could be used to entangle the plane if somehow this is quantum entanglement at play here, or it could have been used to plant fake parts of the plane into the water.

So the tiny bits of the debris that we found do not in any way, shape, or form debunk this event or any of the narratives around it. Now, with respect to why you would do this and why take the risk, I think that to your point about, you know, they would use this. I disagree. I think that the more you use this technology, the more you are opening it up to being found out about and having other countries be able to reverse engineer it. If we start using this technology against Russia, they're going to know about it.

The whole world's going to know about it. It's very clear that if this technology exists, they're trying to keep it secret and under wraps as much as possible. And that's part of the reason why the only motive I can think would be worthwhile would be intellectual property and espionage. Because money alone, to me, is not enough to take a risk of this huge, especially when you're filming it with two can. cameras that could get leaked to the public and prove it like it has happened. You know, so one of the other things, too, is if you have this technology, why are you risking this? Why are you doing this? And I think that's still part of the mystery that we have to kind of uncover. One reason why I think they might be using this on a plane is because this plane's

flying in the sky where there's a very low amount of mass in the air as opposed to on the ground or in the water where you would also have to teleport the water or the ground along with the plane. So it might be that a plane is the perfect thing to try to tell us. And it might be that this isn't the first time they've done it, to be perfectly honest. But I don't think this is the kind of technology that you're throwing out there on the front lines to random people, right? Is that the more people you get involved in this, the more likely it's going to get leaked out and the more likely the other countries are going to be able to catch up to that technology.

Now, keep in mind, if we can teleport something, we don't even need any other advanced technology to have supremacy of the world. If you can teleport a nuke onto somebody, that's it, right? So keep in mind that anybody who has this type of of teleportation technology is going to be a huge risk. And what I would say as well is that what if Russia, China, already have this type of technology and they already have the technology that they could blow us up and we can't do much about it at all, right?

What do you imagine the geopolitical landscape would look like in such a scenario? It makes me wonder if that's not exactly what we're looking at right now. You know, why haven't we just put Russia down or whatever? Maybe it's because nobody wants to blow up the entire planet or take that type of risk. Well, and just a thought. And I guess, and I guess, you know, exactly what we just said, I have a little, I guess I still have an opposite opinion on that because, you know, I just feel like if we, especially United States, I mean, I can't speak for other countries, but I'm just saying the United States, if we had that technology, like, we could just teleport Russia out of this world, like, or whoever we wanted to. I mean, essentially, if you had that technology, you would have God-like technology. I mean, if we look at it. at, and by the way, how long, and I want to jump here and there, but how long from these videos that we see and guys and girls out there that are listening, I want you to go to

Ashton's YouTube channel. Ashton, what is your YouTube, or sorry, not YouTube channel, X channel or Twitter channel, what is your page name so that people can go and look at the videos? And then the question was, how long in those videos did it take for these orbs or whatever these things are to disappear this aircraft? Yeah, so my Twitter page is JustX Ashton. So you can find all my information there as well as everything in my highlights, the whole investigation to date, even including all the changes that we found in the investigation going all the way back. And sorry, what was your follow-up? So the follow-up is on the videos, right, how long from the very first instance that we see these orbs or these craft or whatever they are, how long,

did it take for this aircraft to disappear? Yeah, so it's only about one minute, but from the time the orbs show up in the video, it's less than I think about 30 seconds or so. So from the full time of these orbs appear to the disappearance is very quick process. We actually saw the trajectory

of the orbs as well that we've analyzed. So two of the orbs seem to come from off the side of the screen, which is hard to tell their origin, but the second orb, you can actually see come up from the water. It skims across the water and shoots up through the cloud as it connects with the other orbs and they form a pattern. The moment

they kind of lock in, it seems like they begin this pattern where they're spinning and spiraling around the plane. And then that pattern actually changes to a point where it's almost a ring circling around the plane. And then the zapakers and then the plane is gone and the orbs are gone. So you're saying this,

so you're saying one of these orbs appeared to come from the water. Yeah, the second orb. Now, I don't know if it's appearing from below the water or what have you, but you can actually see it look like it's skimming across the water, then shoot up through the cloud, and then it gets locked into that formation with the other orb.

And then the third orb comes from the side of the screen, and then all three are starting their formation. Yeah, I mean, this is 100% still goes back to a lot of our UAP encounters and sightings with military. It absolutely does, but I'm just saying, how can you explain still that if it is UAP and it's not us, it's not any foreign efforts? Yeah.

If it's not any foreign adversary. how do you explain the one little wing that has still been found? Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, because if it was a UIP, I don't think anything would have been found. Not necessarily, but you also have to understand that, like, think about David Grush in Congress

when he goes in front of Congress, and then not long after this, right? And David Grush, in Congress said, regardless of whether you're a big David Grush friend or not, it doesn't matter, but we do know his credentials are legit, and David Grush goes out here, Plus, since then, there's been 40 plus whistleblowers come forward, that some of which the people that he actually said, hey, these were the guys that worked on this. I know because I interviewed them.

Well, there have been 40 of those guys that have come forward since then, right? Two skiff meetings and so on with classified hearings. But, you know, when you hear David Gresh say things like, you know, my life has been in danger. I have been threatened. I do know that potentially there were murders that happened because of this. Right. And so the amount of secrecy that is behind this, for whatever reason, we don't know, right? I mean, have no idea.

But if there's that amount of secrecy, if there's that amount of budgetary misguidance, especially as far as secretive programs, clandestine programs and the UFO program to where they're taking a portion of budget or military or military budgets and putting it in reverse engineering, well, there's no question that if something like this happens, that they're going to, to try to cover for this. And especially if it's them. And so how are you going to cover for it? Where you're going to say, well, we found a couple of pieces of debris. That's why I'm feeling like it has to be the second scenario that is not actual UAPs that put it in a wormhole or whatever because there would be no parts of the plane. I don't know.

But I don't think it is parts of the plane. I think it's a setup. But even if it was a setup, who set it up? The people that are flying the UAPs? No, no. I mean, that doesn't make any sense. We don't know. It is very weird.

But, you know, to your point, though, Ashton, we've talked also on this podcast about, you know, if we want to look at, even besides reverse engineering of alien spacecraft, like, let's just forget about that. But let's pretend like these or these things are not any craft, right? And as you said, like, maybe they're not even visible. But then you've got to start talking about direct energy weapons or similar technology. to the point of, you know, we've actually had a lot of Freeland on our podcast when we talked about Harp and some other things. She's an expert and has written four books on it. And the ability for governments and secretive organizations to be able to transverse signals and energy throughout the stratosphere and put it in other places based on all this other crazy stuff. I don't know.

I'm not an expert in that. Well, it's based on the god particles of what they have found. Yeah, I mean, some way. I mean, it's based on some of the transdimensional stuff, but without getting too deep in the weeds, direct energy weapons or something like that could be.

I mean, I would think if this was a governmental thing, I don't know that it is a craft, right? I don't personally think that this is something that the military has created, that they've reverse engineered, and now they have these craft and these orb that are running around this aircraft and

making it disappear. I think, if anything, the government or any government's involved, personally, I think it would be some type of energy slash, you know, frequency weapon that would be used to disappear this thing. But a lot of UAPs that are out there could be non-manned or not have a pilot in them, is what I'm saying. Well, I think a lot of the UAP thing is transdimensional. Because a lot of them, you know, when they look at the sizes of these different things, that can be like so tiny that a person couldn't even fit. them to so big that is bigger than a football field.

Yeah. So, Ashton, let me ask you this, too. When you said this thing made the turn, right, or supposedly made the turn, is this where you think that these orbs were around this craft is where it supposedly made the turn? I want to make sure I'm clear on that. Yeah, I think that that is where this turn happened to the South Indian Ocean, we think simply did not occur.

I looked at the Emmerstadt Ping data from Victor of the Independence. group, but you can find it on his blog. Decide to look at it myself, because I feel like not many people have. And if you go to the SU Log tab, and you go from when this plane took off at 1630 and get all way down to 1840, where it's supposedly turned in the South Indian Ocean, there's hundreds of rows of data, dozens of rows for every single timestamp. When you get to 1840, all of a sudden there's a bunch of zeros repeating over and over and over. And then when you get to 1940 through 2315, which is the point where this plane was

supposedly flying through the South Indian Ocean, there's 10 total rows of data for all five of those hours. And there's some pretty clear patterns in the data. It looks like the satellite designation. I mean, it's still the IOR satellite, but whatever it's being called changes. And the channel just flips back and forth between 10 and four repeatedly. It looks very, very unusual to anyone who's familiar with Excel data. And it's almost unbelievable to me that anyone that looked at this doesn't think that something unusual happened here. The data looks almost as if it was either just added in onto the Excel and spreadsheet, which is not that unusual because the head of Emersat said that the data is good as long as it's not spoofed.

And there's also a quote from one of the engineers of Emmerstatt saying that they had thought that a hoax had been played on Emmerstadt. And not only that, no one has corroborated the Emmercad data. The Emmercad data has less chain of custody than our videos have. It went from Imerstadt to Malaysian government to one of the family members of the victims to then to the independent group. I mean, so the Emersat data itself also seems to confirm that something happened here at the Nicobar Islands. But if I can just rewind for one minute and go back to the debris, I think this is very important, especially of casual listeners, that there is essentially no chance that this plane crashed into the ocean. And we have the proof. The reason for that is that the SOSIS system, which is the same system that heard the Titan subpop,

would have heard this crash into the ocean. Now, keep in mind, they didn't say anything for five days while everyone was watching oxygen counters on CNN and every other major news channel, thinking that this sub was at the bottom of the ocean with oxygen running out. The Navy knew immediately that this sub popped five days beforehand said nothing about it.

That system would have detected Malaysian Airlines crash into the ocean. There was no debris field found, despite the fact that there would have been a debris field visible from space for days. There was three other systems, that also would have caught it. There was a Jorn system, which is Indonesia's system,

that would have hurt it. Australia had hydrophones that would have hurt it if it crashed into the South Indian Ocean where they claimed. And Diego Garcia had hydrophones that would have also caught it as well. None of these systems caught the crash.

Not only that, there's more. 19 family members, 19 issued a report to the government, asking them to look into the cell phones because they were able to call the victim's cell phones for days after, the event, including one that did so on national television. Wow.

You cannot call a cell phone if it's off or if it's at the bottom of the ocean. The phones die after about a foot underneath in saltwater or less than potentially 30 minutes. The cover up in this case is extremely sloppy. They then just go to these experts that claim, oh, well, that could still happen, but I don't see any of them trying it out. I'll turn my phone on if someone wants to call it and tell me if it rings. I guarantee you it will not ring. So I just want to go ahead and show that out there.

there's no chance this plane crashed into the ocean. Man, there's so much to get to that. Because, you know, if you think about this, you know, these victims' family members calling cell phones and they're still ringing. And you're right about, you know, they're not going to ring. And then you think about, you know,

let's get back for a minute about transdimensional stuff, right? You know, it's when we think about, when we think about time and I don't want to go too crazy or deep in this stuff, but when we think about time, we've often thought it's forward and backwards, even though we're kind of starting to understand and realize that it's linear. Yeah, it is not necessarily fording backwards.

And then we think about UFOs and UAPs, right? And a lot of the evidence that are coming out with whistleblowers and whatnot that, you know, these everyone thinks of UFOs as being these beings, these physical beings that come from another planet that has life. And these physical beings just happen to show up here. They travel light years away. and they're all the time physical.

But a lot of the evidence from the government and from whistleblowers and from whoever else, it seems like, is pointing a lot more towards a transdimensional form. And so could you, you know, just like the UFOs and UAPs, we think that, you know, with a ton of researches out there, a lot of experts or people that have really studied this, especially whistleblowers and the government reports and everything, you know, it seems like that it is,

you know, like I said, transdimensional. It can be non-physical, or it can also happen to be physical in form. Right. And so where this aircraft possibly could be if these orbs have surrounded it and it, quote, unquote,

potentially teleported, doesn't necessarily mean it teleported to another planet. And I think that's something we have to wrap our heads around. It's just teleported to another dimension. And that doesn't mean, you know, years in the future or years behind us

or even another planet. It just literally might mean some kind of linear dimension that we cannot physically see or understand. And so therefore, a cell phone potentially could still have access to data, which is crazy to think about. But I wanted to make that point because there is a lot of people that are trying to explain the whole transdimensional, interdimensional thing. and then also how these UAPs and UFOs can also manifest themselves in physical form but I think a lot of the ways the characteristics of their movement

how unbelievable in physics that we believe they are it may not necessarily be that they're that unbelievable in physics it's just that we don't understand how their transdimensional process is right if that makes any sense and I hope it does.

Yeah. It sounds weird because, you know, growing up, you know, a lot of people were like, hey, I went to church. I'm a Christian. I'm a Muslim. I'm whatever. And they tell you to believe in God and Jesus or whoever, Allah. And everyone's like, well, why are you going to believe in that? Like, say an atheist comes around.

They're like, why are you going to believe him? So how do you believe in that, right? And there's so many questions about all that. But I just want to point out, like, we've always believed in a lot of things we couldn't see. And I just think more and more now we're starting to understand that, like, oh, my God, there are actual things that we don't understand, but we're somehow starting to see. And, you know, Ashton, to your point, like this data, this, these satellite imagery, these, all of this stuff, this is technology that is in some ways starting to prove certain aspects of things that we never would have seen otherwise. Does that make any sense to you? Yeah, I mean, so I think there's four possibilities for where this plane went, right?

And when we're talking about teleportation in black holes, like, of course, we've got to think about everything, right? Because we're already, you know, pretty far into the woods here. So, you know, it could go to another dimension. It could go to another planet on the other side of the universe. It could go to the future as well because time dilation is real with respect to, like, the movie Interstellar. And then it could have just gone to another location right here on Earth as well, right? So it's really, really difficult to even speculate exactly where it went. But, you know, I think we've got to leave all the options open at that point.

For sure. Hey, let me ask you something about the boat witness. What did the boat witness exactly see? Yeah. So Kate T was on the boat and she saw a orange uniform glowing plane with almost a halo around it. So I've actually been in communication with her. And the way she described it to me is that it's almost not quite like a haze, but that it like protruded a little bit out from the plane a little bit.

Now, I don't know if that was just the light from the glow of the plane protruding out, but that's the way she described it. Now, keep in mind, it was pitch black. The moon was down. The sun was down. It's 240 in the morning local time there potentially. So it was very dark and she sees this plane going. She also saw two other planes that had navigation lights,

which is interesting because there's only one that was even remotely close was UAE 343. And they reported not seeing the plane. So I don't know if they were covered up or if the, these other planes were not it. Now, if you watch a Netflix documentary, one of the parents was told by, you know, somebody, some undercover agent or something that there was two AWACs that were monitoring the plane,

which I believe are these big radar planes. Yeah, they are, yeah. What have you? And that's a pretty interesting thing because she might have seen those. And if so, that lends credit to this espionage idea where these planes can actually jam the 777, and they might even be able to hack it,

despite the fact that the idea this plane was hacked and taking control of was very highly contested. and supposedly is impossible, but, you know, black holes are supposedly impossible, too, and we're watching it in real time. So, you know, that was her witt in her sighting. Now, I've talked to her as well, and unfortunately, she did not see the plane disappear. And she may have just gotten incredibly unlucky. It sounds like she got an argument with her husband at the exact wrong time and went

underneath the into the boat, right? So it's unsure right now at this point, you know, how much of it she saw, or if the plane was still kind of maybe flying in circles or something after she went under. But I do plan on talking and talking with her again and doing a more comprehensive analysis if she lets me and ask a bunch more follow-up questions that may give us more clues as to what's going on in these videos. Ashton, let me ask you. So since our last episode with you, what is some of the new things that you have kind

of uncovered and found? Like what are some things that really stand out to you? Because I know that you have devoted a lot of your life to this. And, you know, if you look at your ex account, there's a lot of people that are also really following this with you. And they are very appreciative of what you're doing because, you know, this is something that is massive. I mean, this could be the story of our lifetime, right? I mean, if we really think about this. Yeah, because it's already opening my eyes to could this actually be somebody on Earth that is reversing, you know, reversing all this and it's actual humans?

Yeah, even though I don't. Personally, I don't believe that. I know, but there are, but it could be. But, Ashley, what is some of the most groundbreaking things? You're right, though. It could be. What are some of the things that's kind of blown you away? It kept you up at night. Oh, man.

The part about looking into the families or the victims is, wow. Do you realize that most of them went on TV weeks after this happened and just were completely against the official narrative? Like, almost all of them believed that there was either some type of hijacking, that their family members were still a lot. and people tried to just, you know, dismiss that. I'd say it's grief. But I think the reality is they knew something was wrong with the official narrative that it made no sense whatsoever, right? And then the part two, that they've all just gone quiet.

They've all gone quiet. All the family? Everybody. I've had millions of impressions from reporting this. If it was me and my family, it doesn't matter how many years later. Someone's out there telling me that there's videos showing what really happened in the plane. I'm all over it, right?

And the fact that I actually reached out to them after several weeks, I didn't want to right away, because I think it was a little bit disrespectful and I thought they would reach out to me, but they didn't. So I went ahead and looked them all up from the Netflix documentary and reached out to every single one I could on Twitter. Some of their accounts for sure haven't been very active. But none of them, none of them have reached out to me. Now, there's been, I think, a couple people who were friends of victims, but none that were direct family members. And I just find that a little bit unusual, maybe not too unusual because most of the passengers were,

of Chinese or Malaysian nationality and only a fewer Westerners, but of the ones that were Westerners like Philip Woods, girlfriend, Sarah, and the other guy who's, I'm going to get his name wrong, Wells, Denise Wells, they were convinced there was something unusual going on here. And they've moved on potentially. But, you know, if they do want to dig into this, then, you know, we can. That's the part, though, that I found videos of that it's been very striking to me and just kind of a little bit unworldly.

Now, the other thing that I want to go into that I've just posted today, actually, is what it would take to hoax these videos. And I just want to run through this list for you guys real quick, just for you to realize how there's almost no chance these could be fake. It would take between, you'd have only between four and 72 days to create the videos given the timestamps of Regicide Anon's description. You would have to use an original work. There's no reference copy to copy from.

You'd have to know how to create realistic volumetric clouds. You would have to accurately illuminate or accurately animate the cameras, how to, how clouds form at low altitude clouds that we see are low altitude clouds, how to accurately illuminate the volumetric clouds during the flash, recreate the exact look of MH370 and color tone, what the turn radius of a Boeing 777 is at certain altitude wall in descent, where the plane would have been at the exact time in the Nicobar Islands, accurate coordinate shifts relative to the location that we see. how to animate the coordinate shifts that we see in the video because they move when that person moves the joystick around. What the weather was like in the Nicobar Islands, which was showed these cumulus clouds at a very low altitude,

how to accurately create the exhaust and smoke trails that are coming from the plane in two different videos, what the thermal looks like at the level that would fool even experts. You would need better visual effects skills than Top Gun Maverick artists who gave their opinion on Reddit. Knowledge of military classified systems, previously unknown to the public. you would have to know that the military uses a Citrus environment, that there's a frame rate difference created by capturing the satellite footage on the Citric session that you'd have to build into the hoax. You'd have to know what type of mouse they were using to move around the coordinates.

It's not a mouse like we would imagine. It's more. I actually posted it, I believe it's called a Plural View 3D. You would have to know what the satellites that US has in operation and what their payloads are. You'd have to know what false color IR looks like. you would have to be able to create 3D stereoscopic imagery. You'd have to be able to animate the orbs properly

and how to create the particle system for the orbs forward-facing engine that we see. You'd have to know what the MQ1C drone looks like and what the MQ1C drone's payload is. You'd also have to know what the payload is to get the exact camera angles that we need as well. You'd finally have to know not to use a 2D visual effect in a 3D environment, which is what the only really popular debunk is pretty much using. And then finally, you'd have to use this all using 2014 technology.

And you'd have to know that somehow we would never find this plane even nine years later. But if you can do all of that, then potentially you could begin to hoax these videos. It seems quite impossible to me that you could do that in between four and seven to two days. And several visual effects artists have come to me to say that this is absolutely impossible. So this is an enormous list that you guys have researched. And to me, listening to all this list, it would be like human, humanly impossible unless what you were saying earlier

if there was some kind of AI stuff going on way back then. No, what sure wasn't. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Oh, my God. Like, I have so much to say about what you just said because I don't know if you know what I do

during a day, right? Like what my job is, is graphics, by the way. It's graphics, marketing. I do all of that, right? I run a company where we do, marketing, we do graphics, we do web design, we do, uh, you know, uh, illustration. We do all of that. And so when I'm hearing you kind of run down through all of this, right? And just, you know, just kind of seeing the videos and, and, and looking through all of your videos, I have to agree

with almost everything you say. Now, is it possible, right, that someone could do this? Yes. but I don't think it's possible one person could do this because, and especially in your timeline, you said four to 72 days, right? And in that four to 72 day timeline, we have to understand that what we have seen in a lot of these videos because I've watched them, and you're talking about volumetric clouds,

you're talking about reflections, you're talking about all of these different things. The mouse, which, by the way, I think that mouse is called a construction, actual mouse is what that's, I believe, called. That's why even on drones, when you see a drone kind of moving the camera around to where it looks kind of structured, it's not a smooth necessarily movement and a lot of these things. But either way, I think we know the internet nowadays, right? There are so many people that know graphics.

There are so many people know all this stuff. but those very people are going to be the people that can 100% without any hesitation and without any backlash be able to debunk these videos based on their expertise. And what we have seen is no one has been able to do that. And to all of what Ashton just said, I want to make something very freaking clear. Those are all very, very difficult things that you would have to. to do to have to come up with a system like that or a multi-tiered, structured, hoax in all kinds of graphical anomalies. And why would you do that?

Why, what would be the point? I mean, there are people that would want to possibly do that. But Ashton's point is, it is extremely, that, that is an extreme measure. That's an extreme measure. You need a team, right? just a team. We're talking millions of dollars worth of effort here, right? This is, VFX and movies are the most expensive part. Absolutely. So the idea that someone would do this with no credit and leave it dark for nine years, to me, the only possibility is that, you know, the U.S.

government or another state sponsor is making this. The problem with that is it makes no sense the story for it, right? What do you, that you're essentially just implicating yourself if you create this. No one's going to believe, you know, in the common of common people. Maybe we might believe it, but would essentially believe that aliens took this plane. They're just going to say, oh, no, the U.S. government made this because they're the ones who did it, right? That would be what would happen. So this wouldn't even work as a cover-up if they created it, which is the main reason why the SIOP angle doesn't really work either. And part of the reason why these videos are just the perfect videos to get disclosure.

There's nothing that the U.S. government can say other than the truth, which is that they watch this plane disappear and they know what happened to it. So no one knows who has released this stuff. Like, let's get to just like the basicness of this, right? Where did these videos come from? Like, where did they start? Where did they originate? You might have said this, but I want to make clear this. Like, where did this actual stuff come from?

So when you watch the videos, there's very clear intent in terms of the person who recorded it and then they leaked it as well. And I'm actually working on a follow-up piece, but I already wrote one very early on called a salute to Agent 370, which is what I've dubbed the person who leaked this footage. And we can tell that they leaked the satellite footage first and we ignored it. And I think that the satellite footage in their mind, they thought, was absolute proof. They showed us the stereoscopic 3D video that we should have been able to determine right away. That has to be USA 229. That was the satellite in the right location. They probably knew that amateur astronomers would be able to figure that satellite out really, really quickly.

They even gave us the coordinates in the bottom. Now, keep in mind, March 12th, when this was supposedly received by Redisadon, there was no turn into the South Indian Ocean narrative. So presumably this person knew right away that we would figure out that this happened in the Nicobar Islands just from that information. The satellite footage is called satellite footage. And it has in the bottom NROL 22, which we believe is the command satellite that was relaying down to USA-229. If you look up Sig-Inc signals intelligence in Google, you'll find a very clear image that shows a big network of satellites and assets that communicate with one another. And if you look up Sigint's payload in Google, the very first hit will be MQ.

one C great eagle. That's our drone. So everything adds up to this footage being real and this being the real classified equipment that is creating this network of communications to potentially record events just like this. Now, in terms of what the leaker did, they cropped out the drone from the satellite footage. The reason why I believe this person is a patriot is that if they were a spy to some degree, they wouldn't have bothered with all that. First of all, they probably wouldn't have leaked it to the public at all, right? in my mind, the only reason someone leads this to the public is they were the operator of one of these devices in real time.

And they saw it. And they said, people need to know about this, right? They probably had the same ontological shock that we do when we're watching it and said that humanity needs to know about this. They didn't want to leak all the secrets of the U.S. military. And that may have saved their life in terms of the consequences. You know, maybe they went lenient on them and they only gave them a few decades or life in prison. Now, if you go look up to the September 21st, New York Times article, from just a week ago or so, you will find out that there was a contractor who stole spy satellite footage from, I believe, Africa.

And they are facing life and prison of the death penalty, just to give you some concept of the consequences for this type of thing. Absolutely. The only reason why I think they leaked the second footage is because we ignored the first one. So then they said, okay, I'm going to go ahead and colorize this thermal footage, which we believe was been that thermal layer is added over the top because it actually takes away some of the detail, especially in the clouds. and they said, okay, well, here's a second perspective from another device that you can clearly tell was just cropped out of the first one. And that should have been, you know, absolute proof. I can't even think of any high-quality UFO videos that show two different camera angles, let alone from the most advanced electro-I-R cameras in the world at the time. So, and just imagine the amount of pressure and stress that this person would have been under holding this footage,

trying to get people to release it and leak it, while someone might be ready to kick down their door with guns at any moment. had to be extremely high-intensity, high-stress situation for them. Yeah, I mean, and to your point, though, it's like, you know, the satellite imagery and they released it and, you know, hey, maybe we're not getting enough tension on this. But, you know, just think about, I want to go back to this a second. You know, in reality, David Grush in front of Congress said that we have non-human biologics and crash retrieval programs. And people cared about that for like a day or two.

And then it was like, okay, we're done with it. that. But also, you know, even to what you, because you know a lot about this, right? You, you are very well versed in this. And so even people that are listened to this podcast, which I think they're going to find it very entertaining, for sure, you know, or like, if this person releases this, right, like how many people are going to even understand what they're looking at and how do you with the information age the way it is, like the official narratives in mainstream media

the fact that mainstream media is not going to cover anything that does not officiate their narrative, you know, how are you going to get anything to actually happen? And that's we are at such a tug of war right now with like what is the information war.

The information war is like what is people going to believe and what are they not? And unfortunately, sadly, by the way, I think mainstream media is still dominant because there's a lot of older people there. They watch nightly news. They watch all this stuff. And they just, if it's not on NBC

nightly news, if it's not on world news tonight or whatever, it's not real. That's exactly how it works. And listen, I think the biggest evidence to this, I mean, besides anything, I think you broke it down so eloquently

well as far as what it would take to spoof this. And it would be literally impossible. it would be possible but yeah it's i said literally not practical let's say yeah not very practical absolutely ashton what is your what is your goals and plans with us like well how has it changed your life as far as um the way you think about life i mean because i know like you said there there's multiple options here of what actually could have happened but what is your plans for with this investigation like what are you trying to accomplish with this obviously we want the truth out there but how are you planning to go about

that. I know you're on the podcast right now and, you know, that that's part of your plan. But what is what is your plans for the future? Great question. Yeah, I mean, the main goal is just the truth, of course, you know, I'm not trying to do this for any monetary incentive or anything like that, although, you know, maybe one day in the future will do a book or, you know, documentary just because I think it would be very, very entertaining. But the reality is that this is just to get the truth. Now, I've come to terms with the fact now that I think the U.S. government cannot and will not ever admit to this. It's just too much for people.

And from back channels, you know, I've heard that the, potentially the people that are covering this up, you know, we've heard that they're doing it because they think it's demons and angels and stuff like that. You know, I think there's a more logical explanation, which is that they believe that society will collapse or that this technology could be the end of the world. And that to me is almost enough for, you know,

justifying covering it up. But they disappeared. MH370 and lied to people for nine years. So we're going to get that truth. And how we're going to do that is we're going to make it self-evident. I mean, you've listened to the evidence. It's extremely compelling. It's probably more proof than we've ever had for any murder conviction in history,

certainly more proof than we've ever had for any missing airline or maybe even any missing anything in history. So the more we get this information out there, the more people will understand it to become self-evident. And at that point, it won't matter if they lie anymore. Everyone will just know their line, right? and that's the point where I think we'll get the truth. Hey, let me, let me ask you, did you have a, did you have a, what was your religion,

you don't have to tell us your religion grown up, but has any of this changed your, your outlook on life? Like, you don't have, you don't have to say what your religion was, but has it changed any of your outlooks on, you know, what you think about life in general, reality? In general, the UAP stuff has made me more of a Buddhist than anything else, reincarnation, evolution of the soul is the thing that I probably identify with the most out of anything else nowadays. But really my philosophy has always been the same is that it doesn't matter if there's aliens out there that are even here or UIPs are real. What matters from a day-to-day basis is the time that we have on this planet and the people that we spend it with.

And that's what I do from a day-to-day basis is spend it with my family, the people that I care about. Because that time is the most precious thing that we have in this world. and from a perspective of what this technology means to the world is that I think this means hope for the world, is that this can give us a unifying force that people can look forward to, that say we can make this world a better place, a better place that it is right now where we're all extremely divided. This can be something that unifies us, and I think it has unified this community that we are building here. So I'm extremely proud of this community that comes from all sorts of backgrounds, that they're all very respectful people, and that they look at the evidence with an open,

mind. And that's what we need from everybody in this world in order to get the truth here. Absolutely. That is a great conclusion. Yeah, absolutely. Now, yeah, you couldn't have summed up any better. I mean, because at the end of day, we're trying to, we're trying to piece together life, right? And also with horrific events for family members in this scenario, although we don't know what actually potentially happen with the quote-unquote or with the victims of MH370, but we don't know what. happen with them, but, you know, it makes us appreciate life. And I think you summed it up very well. Ashton, we're definitely going to have you back on. And listen, and there's so many

people that respect your work and what you're doing. Hey, let me ask you, has anyone thought that you're the whistleblower on all this? Not really. I mean, I think people have kind of joke about it, but there's no chance to have the whistleblower on this. You know, these videos are nine years old. So, you know, I would, if you go through that same list, of things like, you know, I get ruled out in like the second little thing or maybe the very first one, right? So I have disclosed the fact that I have a security clearance, but has nothing to do with anything related to this, you know, and I'm being perfectly open and honest about that just to help establish my credibility. But there's no chance I'm not

this creative. I couldn't have come up with this even if I tried. I wish I was that creative, but I am not. So yeah, there's, I'm not, you know, David Grush for any of those other people. I was in any of that stuff. And I'm definitely not the person, you know, who leaked this either. I got you. Well, man, Ashton, thank you so much for coming on. I think you've done an amazing job. I think that we have to have people like you, right?

And we have to have people that believe and are passionate enough about things like this to push them forward. Because citizen journalist or journalists, you know, just that wants the truth. I mean, that's the main thing. Like, we want the truth and the people need to hear it. and Ashton is out there willing to fight for anyone that's going to hear it and he believes enough of this and by the way I believe in it as well Ashton I 100% believe in this. Thank you.

And I'm happy to have you on. I'm happy to be a friend of yours. You know, we might have been maybe one of the first podcast to kind of bring you on and I hope that there's going to be. You were the first. Yeah. I hope there's millions of more.

Yeah. And you were amazing on the first one. All my friends are like, bring him back on. we got to hear another episode. Yeah. But I think there's going to be so many, I think your future holds, well, I mean, I say I hope that you're going to be on many more,

but it just depends. The narrative, you know, and what they don't want people to hear is going to get stricter and tighter and tighter as time goes on, I believe. But, you know, it's people pioneers like you that I think are going to make the difference.

So we definitely appreciate you coming on. Ashton, for anybody that wants to find you, make sure one more time where they can find you. Go ahead and whatever you want to say. Yeah. Yeah, it's at JustX Ashton. You can find me there. Our subreddit has been banned, so you can't find that anymore.

But you can find me on Twitter. And I will keep posting there until we get the truth. I want to go ahead and thank Chad and Sherry once again for having me on. Like I said, you were the first people to have me on. I couldn't be more grateful to that. And yeah, reach me to me anytime you want. Hey, thanks so much, Ashton, man. We're going to have you back very soon.

And guys, that's going to be it for this MH370 episode. We can't wait to hear what you guys think about this. I think it's amazing. I think it's groundbreaking. I think it's something that is mind-wowing. Until next time, guys, we love you. Peace out. Peace out.

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