Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts | New Government Report Details New Sightings

Episode Date: January 17, 2023

A new government report that was released by The Office of the Director of National Intelligence about UFO sightings in the United States shows the US government has received over 350 UFO sighting rep...orts since March 2021, half of which remain unexplained. In this episode, we discuss what these sightings could be, and revisit some military pilots explaining their encounters with these objects. All of that and more on this episode of UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts, the new US Government report.

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Starting point is 00:00:59 Hello, hello, and welcome to Investigate Earth Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Say hello to Walt Sherry. Hey, guys. I hope you're doing fantastic whenever you're listening to us. We're so glad you're here. Absolutely, guys. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It is 750 p.m. here on the East Coast of United States in South Carolina on January 15, 2023. We think each and every one of you from listening around the world. And guys, by the way, man, I think we've said this in another podcast, but, you know, 115 countries. of you that are listening around the world. It's amazing. We think each and every one of you. And I do want to say this from the very beginning. I know that we try to talk about, like we talk about the New World Order.
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Starting point is 00:02:04 We are back talking about the stuff we've been talking about for four years. This is something that is a very close thing to us. It's very similar to, you know, people go and they have passions for fishing, or they have passions for camping, or they have passions for whatever their profession is, engineering and whatever. And our thing is always for four years. The fascination for me has been UFOs. and aliens and just what else is out there in our universe.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Are we the only ones in this universe? There's no way. And if you listen to any of our other episodes, our prior episodes talking about this subject, whether it be from Area 51 to government involvement, to DOD reports, to even the biblical references of UFOs and aliens, I think it's pretty safe to say that we're definitely not the only ones out there. And anyone that would even try to say that we're the only ones in this entire universe,
Starting point is 00:02:58 which is billions and billions of light years in diameter is crazy. Well, I think before, too, if you even mentioned UFO or thought you saw one, everyone thought you were a cray cray or a nutcase and, you know, especially pilots or people that were in the profession of flying, if they saw these things, they were on the, like, they might lose their job if they report these things. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's always been a definite stigma to the UFO.
Starting point is 00:03:28 topic, right? And so now that the UFO thing is coming into mainstream media, there are more and more people that just never either cared or thought people that thought UFOs were real, were crazy. Those people are starting to come into the subject now. Those people are starting to wonder. Those people are starting to see it on mainstream media a little more and a little more. And so there is a lot of people out there that are interested. There's a lot of people that want to understand what is actually going on. Like, is this really a thing or is it not? And so for those of you that are new to the UFO subject or just new to the entire topic of UFOs. I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Without a doubt, I believe that UFOs, unidentified flying objects or I guess the better word to say it is, creatures or things or living things from other planets, I believe, have visited Earth and I believe they are currently visiting Earth. I think the amount of reports we're seeing, the amount of experts, and it, and it When I say experts, I want to make clear of this. When I say experts, I mean not just people that are UFO nuts, as some regular people might call them, or that have been in this subject for so long. And so all these people around them are going to be like, oh, these are UFO nuts. Like, they believe in this forever.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But now, now that the stigma is going away about the UFO and UFP thing, we're seeing military pilots, which are trusted with our best technology as far as fighter jets in our. United States. I'm talking about F-18 pilots, F-35 pilots. These are colonels. These are captains. These are these are people that have devoted their entire life and career to getting into the military to going through officer candidate school, then going through flight school, which is extremely hard in the military. And so these guys, obviously, I'm sure they had, you know, if you listen to any of the military pilots in the past that have discussed this. And we're going to play a clip here in just a second about one particular. this. We're going to play a couple clips, but there's two Navy pilots that have discussed this openly. David Fravor, which is a colonel, he's a lieutenant colonel in the military, him and his
Starting point is 00:05:37 unit, which he was basically over off the coast of San Diego. They did intercept what they believed to be a UFO, obviously. I mean, they could not identify this object. Right. And if you watch the video, you can clearly see what they intercepted. Yeah. It's not anything from our world. Absolutely. At least they don't think so. And so these guys that are making these reports that are coming out and the Tick-Tac video and videos like this. If you haven't seen them, look up to Tick-Tac video. These videos are showing something that we do not have technology for, that we know of anyway, on the face of the earth.
Starting point is 00:06:11 These are the fact that lieutenant colonels in the military that are flying fighter jets that are literally their job is to go in fly fighter jets, learn how to fly them. But, you know, you want the number one thing that you have to learn in flight school, besides flying is, is you have to know your adversary. You have to know what you're up against. Like the amount of training in school, and I actually ask a friend of mine, which is a F-18 pilot, he was a top gun instructor, like the top gun movie. I went to school with him.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I asked him this question about a year ago, and he responded about the UFO thing. And he said, all I can tell you is we know pretty much everything there is to know about any adversary weapon or aircraft that could go up against whatever we're flying. because you have to, right? You have to know what you're up against. And there is extensive training in the military. They do dog fights. If you watch the movie Top Gun and their sortie trainings and all this stuff. The reason they train so much is to know and understand like, hey, this is how this aircraft would be. Now, they can't train against all the aircraft in the world that are, you know, like the Japanese and the Russian aircraft, their newest thing. They can't train against them. But they try to represent. that as much as they can, either in simulators or whatever, to know that when and if they get up against a fighter jet that is close to their, you know, technology, right? Right, right. Because that's a race right now. In the United States and in the world, there's a race for technology on weaponry.
Starting point is 00:07:43 There's a race for technology in aviation. And so... Bigging stealth. So China is notorious for trying to copy everything we absolutely do. we have certain fighter jets in our military like the F-35 and F-22, which are highly secretive. You cannot even, although you may see them at an air show, you are not often able to actually get into the cockpit or look in the cockpit.
Starting point is 00:08:06 They're not just going to show you what's inside the cockpit because it is very secretive. And they don't want a Chinese spy or whoever to figure out technology that is inside of these things. So my whole point to this is that when a military guy, like a lieutenant colonel or a captain, says that, look, what I saw that night, there's no way that we have technology like that on Earth. Right. And I'm just going to say right now, we don't, no one on Earth has the ability to self-propell. You have to have some kind of engine or jet or some kind of propulsion to make it move. You're going to see a jet stream or something in all these fighter jets around the world.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And these things that we're seeing, we're not seeing any of them. that. We're just seeing things in the sky that are moving left to right and up and down and all around. This is not something anyone in the world can recreate or create. Yeah. And, you know, I think Commander David Fraver kind of puts that into perspective for us. And when he talks about kind of what he saw, how he saw it, and I'm going to play a video for you. It's a five minute, it's a five minute audio. I want you, this is Lieutenant Colonel David. David Fraver. He is the top gun pilot who chased the UFO in an FAA 18 Super Hornet, the guy I was just telling you about. But I want you to hear just his quick perspective on this.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And then we're also going to play a little more detailed version of another fighter pilot and what the things that he was seeing. And this is on the Joe Rogan podcast, but I want you guys to hear this. And then we're going to talk about the new report that just came out. And but I want you to hear this first because I want you to hear what they have to say. And then I want you to kind of see how this report is kind of rolling out what they are supposedly finding. They're still trying to be, you know, off-putting. They're still trying to not make it a huge deal. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And going down the drain after all those, we also have to realize there are normal citizens seeing this every day. Absolutely. And those reports are just as important. For sure. All right, guys. So here's Commander Dave Fraber. I want you to hear what he has to say in one of his latest interviews. so here you go.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I did five cruises to the Gulf. I started right after a desert storm. I had an entire squadron. I had 12 airplanes and 330 people. This is mine. This is what we typically flew at night. You can see these little brackets here. November 14th, 2004,
Starting point is 00:10:42 it's a clear blue sky. There's no wind. You see this tic-tat. It's just this white object that's randomly moving around. It makes the hair on the back of your next. stand up a little bit. I remember telling my back cedar, I said, dude,
Starting point is 00:10:57 I don't know about you, but I'm a little weirded out. It's not a helicopter. It doesn't have a rotor wash. There's no propulsion. There's no wings. It rapidly accelerates and disappears. Like, poof, gone. Weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life. I chase a UFO.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But I like to just crawl back under a rock and be myself again. Yes. I'm doing an event in McMinnville, Oregon, this weekend. I have not been in public about this. I have no idea what to expect. I'm fine with people's fascination as long as you just leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I'm not, I am not a, I'm not a, I'm not that kind of person. All right, so that, that video was a little, there's a lot of stuff the video that we were trying to play was the actual un-ed-or but anyways so what he was basically saying
Starting point is 00:12:09 is David Fravor was the guy and he took his entire squadron off the coast of California and this is where they saw a tic-tike-like object to where they got into close proximity to this thing this thing I guess
Starting point is 00:12:23 went from what he believed to be at least probably 80,000 feet to where he was which I believe at that time was maybe 10,000 feet in an instant. And he saw this thing move down towards the ocean. And it wasn't just him. It was his other fighter pilots.
Starting point is 00:12:40 They were all seeing this thing on Fleer, which the Fleer radar system can see heat versus cold and all this stuff. But it's a way to pick up things on radar. And so military fighter pilots can see aircraft because the propulsion, you know, the exhaust of aircraft will always show on the Fleer radar system. But they can also cross-examine this thing on different radar systems that they have. It's not just a FLIR system. It is multiple systems that can look at it from different types of perspectives, right?
Starting point is 00:13:14 So David Fravor, he gets on this deal, and this thing appears out of nowhere, and it starts going down towards the water. It is interacting what he believes was something underneath the ocean. Now this thing goes down to the ocean He said and you could see kind of the waves The waves coming up yeah And he said it looked like some kind of mass object That that was coming up from the bottom of the ocean Almost like a mother ship or something
Starting point is 00:13:42 Yeah So this thing was interacting with this deal So he said he's starting to come down You know a little further down towards the ocean And as he is coming down towards the ocean He said he realizes that it almost It almost seems as if this object realizes that they are there and are looking at this deal, right?
Starting point is 00:14:02 So then this thing comes up and he's kind of like going, you know, in almost like a comb, kind of circling this aircraft. And he said it wasn't within maybe two seconds. This thing went from kind of circling or almost imitating the jet to gone, disappeared. Like, and it's not that it has disappearing powers. It is, what he believed, it's just, it was so fast. Right. It's faster than the speed of light, speed of sound, speed of anything.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And the reality is to this, too, is a lot of what a lot of military pilots say is that these things, when you move at such high rates of speed, I'm talking about mock speeds or light speed. So in aircraft world, you move at mock speeds, right? When you start getting into a certain mock, right? Most airliners, by the way, move at like point something mock, which is, so you might move at 0.7. 5-5 mock or 0.65 mock or 0.8 mock, right? So that's like 80% of 1. Of 1 mock. Yeah. And so fighter jets can move at like Mach 1, mock 2, typically is about the cutoff.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And that's just a mock speed. But then you start thinking about light speeds, or even the speed of sound. Now, you can break the sound barrier with bider jets, right? So the sound barrier, you can break pretty easily. We've seen, if you go and look up a fighter jet breaking sound barrier, you'll see, and space shuttles do it, rockets do it when they're enter an atmosphere again, it creates a bang. Yeah, like a boom. Once it breaks the sound barrier, it literally just admits all the energy from that speed.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And you hear in one instance, it sounds like an explosion. The difference is that, so obviously anything that breaks the sound barrier is going to emit that sound. And the faster and harder that thing breaks the sound barrier, the louder in, I guess in theory, that it will be. And they've actually proven that with certain rockets and so on. The the faster that thing breaks a sound barrier when it breaks it is going to be the louder that sound is. Okay. So these deals are going from 80,000 feet to like 20,000 feet in an instant, which means, number one, it would obviously have to be breaking sound barriers there. And then when it disappears into thin air, if it's a physical thing, right, it's got to be breaking sound barriers. And then,
Starting point is 00:16:26 sound barriers, and yet there's no sound. We've seen this in many different occasions. Military bases have reported this when these craft are above nuclear facilities, because for whatever reason, these craft, very similar objects, they're all typically explained similarly that these crafts are infatuated with military bases, especially military bases that have nuclear capabilities. And so these are some of our most secretive and sensitive military infrastructures that the United States government, according to the United States government, have no idea what these things are. So just the fact that the government is now creating multiple programs to be able to try to figure out what these things are, that's got to tell you something. And I'm just thinking back to, for most people that are not into the mocks or knowing like the speed and understanding that, I'm just even going back to top.
Starting point is 00:17:25 just because that's what I put my mind and what I can understand. Because I remember in the second movie with Tom Cruise, he was trying to go Mach 9. And then he went past Mach 9 and he went to Mach 10. And he was like vibrating. And you got to remember like real fighter jets that even go past Mach 2, you have a real threat of passing out because of the pressure that's put on your body. Yeah. And if you're going past Mach 2, Mach 3, you have all this pressure going against your body because of the speed you're going that a lot of people will be knocked out or whatever and they have to train for this. And what a lot of military plane pilots are saying is there is no way a human could even survive how fast these aerial phenomenums are.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing. So, yeah, the Top Gun Maverick, it features one of the best edge of your seat action sequences, obviously, that we've ever seen. I mean, I love Top Gun 1. Top Gun 2 was also very good. But yeah, the, I believe what they call the Dark Star aircraft in this particular movie, did reach Mach 10. And, you know, if you look at, I guess the only thing you can really compare it to that we know of that would reach something of that speed would be, you know, a space shuttle or a rocket or something. And that's what it looked like in the movie. It looked like a space rocket. But instead of going up, it was going forward. Yeah. Now, the actual technology behind that is they have to use on that Dark Star a scramjet, which is a jet that kind of comes out from underneath the aircraft, right? And it propels.
Starting point is 00:19:13 It's almost like a little rocket, like a rocket you would launch into space. It comes out from underneath the Dark Star, right? And this is all very feasible, and it can be done, by the way. This is not no BS. But it does come out from underneath the aircraft in this particular situation. But that aircraft has to be a certain height before you can reach that speed because you have to depend on the thinness of the air, which is why airliners fly at 40,000 feet and 35,000 feet. It is because, number one, fuel economy, but number two, it is easier on the aircraft to move faster. And the atmosphere gets thinner.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It's while you go up. Yeah. So there are fighter jets, obviously, that can fly at 70,000 and 80,000. feet, right? And most airliners, max is 50,000 at the most. But there's fighter jets that can fly at like 70, 80,000 feet. And then they also have probably,
Starting point is 00:20:03 I mean, we've had jets that fly 80,000 feet and above or certain aircraft, right? But this thing used a rocket to be able to propel itself. Once it got so high, this dark star, it had a rocket that came out, a scramjet, and it basically helped
Starting point is 00:20:20 propel it even further. Because rocket, and the way rockets work, which is why they use them for space travel, is the only way you're really going to pick up that mock, right? And so you really have to use every advantage you possibly can to get even close to mock ten. And these things do it effortlessly. And basically what these rockets are is a big bomb on the bottom of your plane.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Without a warhead, basically. Yeah. Yeah. So these crafts, and the reason why we explain it this way, these crafts, they do this effortlessly. Sorry. But it's not even mock 10 they're worried about.
Starting point is 00:20:56 These things, if they disappear, like if something is so fast, and it's not even just the fact they disappear, it's the fact that they go from your visible and stationary, or close to stationary, to gone instantly. So if you're looking at, like, just the absolute acceleration in that process,
Starting point is 00:21:14 there's nothing to any military pilots' minds that we could possibly think of that we would, or anyone would have that kind of technology. Right. And that's the thing. That's the difference between even the fastest jet shuttle going into space. The fastest thing we have on Earth, you're always going to see that trail of the rocket.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah. And these things that people are seeing in the sky have no trails. They have no prop, nothing. There's no anything around them. They just go. So the Pentagon's new UFO report, it details 247. new UAPs, and for those of you don't know what that is, this unidentified aerial phenomenon is what the government is calling UAPs now instead of UFOs. They're trying to drop the stigma from UFOs and calling them UAPs, something's, you know, I guess more sophisticated as they figure.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But some of these uncharacterized UAPs appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities and require further analysis is what the government is saying. So on Thursday, the director of national intelligence released a news report or a new report. or a new report on UFOs in 2022, something is now required to do by law, because they have put this in the law, you have to release a report. And so according to the report, the new Pentagon agency study in the phenomenon of strange things seen in the sky, processed 247 fresh UFO sightings last year. And after a surge of public interest in UFOs, what the Pentagon now calls unidentified aerial phenomenon or UAPs,
Starting point is 00:22:46 and a wave of high-profile witness reports from credible sources like Navy fighter pilots, the Pentagon established the all-domain anomaly resolution office, which is AARO. And the goal of the AARO is to study the phenomenon of UFOs. The same governmental acts that created the AARO required the Pentagon to report to Congress and the public about its activities. And so the new report is a high-level summary of the U.S. military's investigation and UFOs since it is the initial report on the matter in 2021. And so in addition to the 144 UAP reports covered during the 7th. years of UIP report and included the Office of Director of National Intelligence, there have been 247 new reports and another 119 that were either since discovered or reported
Starting point is 00:23:30 after the preliminary assessment time period. So the totals are basically 510 UAP reports as of August 30th, 2022. So essentially what this report says is it discusses, they basically try to lay this report out and figure out what some of these things are. So some of these things they're saying that they can contribute to balloons or potentially unmanned aerial vehicles or, you know, which are not aerial vehicles, but they contribute them to. Oh, my mic went off tomorrow. But even drones, they're saying it could be possibly a drone or a balloon or things in the sky that we could. Who'd say it is, but it's not?
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah, I mean, so, but a lot, but some of these things, they have no idea. And so basically what they're saying is we don't know what a lot of these things are. There's no explanation from us. They exhibit characteristics of flight that we don't understand. And so keeping in mind, too, guys, there was another Pentagon report that came out last year. And in this report, it specifically said that we believe that we have seen, and I even think they referenced a vehicle that they may have in possession, if I'm not mistaken, or at least have something of that vehicle in possession. This is an actual declassified
Starting point is 00:25:03 Pentagon report that says that I believe they have a vehicle or parts of a vehicle in possession that they do not believe originated from Earth. That is literally what it says in the report. And you know what the funny thing about the report is, it is a declassified Pentagon document. right and yet you know obviously the people that were care about the UFO subject and and have been researching this for a very long time including astrophysicist just people that are you know have studied the UFO thing for so long when the Pentagon says we believe we have had or have something that
Starting point is 00:25:41 from a vehicle they call it that did not originate from Earth that they don't believe that alone should blow you your mind and you should stop there and say look obviously that is the one thing there's 100% aliens and UFOs here. Exactly and absolutely and if you think even back to Roswell
Starting point is 00:26:01 when they said it was an air balloon and it really to me I think it was some kind of aircraft that was not from this world and yeah but when they went to go test it there was the materials it was made of had no
Starting point is 00:26:17 we had no materials on Earth that you could even use. It was like a very thin type metal, I think. And we didn't even have that metal on Earth. Yeah, yeah, you're right. And this was way back in the 60s, I think. Yeah, I mean, and you got to think about Bob Lazar, and you got to think about, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:37 Bob Lazar worked at Area 51 or Area S4. Bob Lazar was an astrophysicist, although it seems like the government tried to basically try to discredit or take away as credentials of what he was, but there were many people that worked at Area 51 that came to his defense and said, no, we did work with Bob
Starting point is 00:26:57 and we remember Bob being there. And so when Bob came out and said, look, I worked on UFO or UFOs and alien spacecraft. But Bob Lazar was working at Area 51, an S4, and this was something that he said
Starting point is 00:27:13 that he worked on. He said he worked on alien spacecraft. And if you think about how Navy pilots and military pilots are explaining these spacecraft nowadays and how they move and their characteristics. This was something that Bob Lazar when he came out in the 80s and 90s and was talking about how these things moved
Starting point is 00:27:31 without any signs or obvious signs of propulsion and how they moved without sound, how they could move on a dime. He believed that they were created or at least I guess their propulsion was some type of gravity field that was around the craft. All of these things that Bob Lazar said then, when the government then tried to discredit him for even working there,
Starting point is 00:27:55 all of these things are exactly what the military pilots are saying how they are flying. And it's not just a military pilot. Even people that are seeing these things, everyday civilians, are also experiencing the same thing. Absolutely. I mean, you are so right. It's nuts. It's nuts what's going on.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I want to play this clip of he's a former Navy pilot, Ryan Graves, On his UFO encounter, I want to play this to you guys. This is on the Joe Rogan experience. And for those of you that have not seen this, this is who I really want to play this to. This is a 15-minute video, but we have to play this. And especially for the people that just have no idea who Ryan Graves is or his encounter or experience. But it is extremely interesting. And this is just yet another guy that we trust.
Starting point is 00:28:48 with our multi-million dollar aircraft and that have had to have uh you know security clearances and and knows everything about every adversary uh weapon system that he can come up against and so this is his account uh but he's just one of the hundreds if not probably thousands of military pilots that have seen this or experiencing this and it's not just military pilots we are hearing of airline pilots coming out about this there are recordings of airline pilots talking to air traffic control, that have had these encounters with craft that literally almost, what they believe to almost hit them at crazy speeds. At 40,000 feet, they called ATC, these airline pilots say, do you see anything on radar?
Starting point is 00:29:31 And they have nothing on radar. And they have nothing on their radar. Yeah, and it's almost like these things play with these airline pilots sometimes. Just playing with them like they're going towards them and then they just disappear. Yeah. So here is the video, guys. This is a former Navy pilot, Ryan Graves, on his UFO encounter. And this is him talking on Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Here you go. Tell people your credentials, what your background is. Sure. So, you know, my name is Ryan Graves. I have an engineering degree, mechanical and aerospace engineering. I promptly left doing that to go fly F-18s for the Navy as soon as I graduated college. Did that for about a decade, both operationally in combat, as well as an airspace. instructor role teaching the new students. And, you know, we did witness something while we were
Starting point is 00:30:22 flying in our jets, but, you know, we were doing it under, we witnessed it in the context of our just everyday flying in our missions. And what year was it that you witnessed this? So we started seeing these in 2014 was the earliest that I know, 2013, late 2013, early 2014. And could you describe what was the very first experience? Yeah. So for me personally, the experience was simply just flying out to the area like I would any other day. And instead of seeing an empty airspace with just my wing person or another squadron doing something a different block, there were all of a sudden a lot of different radar contacts, which is immediately a problem because, you know, we could be hitting one of those or someone working in our area. And this
Starting point is 00:31:07 was happening because we upgraded our radar, the best we could tell. We were in a earlier radar called the APG 73. And we had come back from deployment. We had to end up. a maintenance phase is called. We kind of do a little bit less flying, upgrade the jets if we need to do any long-lasting maintenance, and we upgraded to the APG-79, which was a much better radar. And what is the difference in the capabilities
Starting point is 00:31:31 of the upgraded radar system versus the original system? So, you know, kind of, frankly speaking, it's like going from an analog TV essentially to like an OLED. It's, you know, a digital modern tool compared to more of like an analog classical radar that has more limited range and has less ability to track multiple targets and things of that nature. So just generally speaking, we would expect to see, you know, more objects if there were
Starting point is 00:31:58 any out there or smaller objects, but there shouldn't have been any objects out there. And so how far offshore are you when this is all going down? Our working areas start about 10 miles off the coast, and then it goes out, you know, or 250 miles or so, though we don't usually use those far eastern areas. But we would only see them over the water. So they would really only be in our working areas, maybe slightly, you know, in between the working area of the land, but never over the land, sometimes over the bays that are in the area that are quite large, but never just kind of zoom in west over land or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And is this restricted airspace? It's not. So that's a tricky question. And for us operating in a military operating area, it is not restricted in the sense that you have to be, there's only one person allowed in there. You could have these little Cessna kind of bumbling in there, but they would get called out pretty quick, both from the kind of air traffic control agency that's working out there, as well as the F-18s and the other aircraft that may be working out there. But in a broader sense, when we look at it in relation to our air defense identification zone, which is essentially a band of airspace that surrounds our entire country, if your flight path originates out over the water outside of the ATAs and you proceed into that ATAs, into our controlled airspace, then you do have to essentially have permission to enter that airspace. It's not a restricted airspace, like a traditional bombing range, but it is protect airspace. It's our coastal life. So you have this upgraded radar system, and what are you detecting? So on the radar, really what we can learn from that is essentially the kinematics of the object.
Starting point is 00:33:45 So where is it essentially? And what directions are going? How fast is it going? Things of that nature. We can't necessarily make up the shape or things of that nature. So it's a representation. It's like a block on our screen to show that information. And so when we see...
Starting point is 00:34:01 And I want to pause here just for a second, because I think... think we need to break it down as this thing goes on. One of the things Ryan is saying is, and I believe if I'm not mistaken, he, Ryan and his squadron operated off the Atlantic, so off the east coast of the United States. Now, David Fravor, the guy that we were trying to play for you earlier, him and his team operated off the west coast of the United States. I believe their squadron was out of San Diego, maybe. And this squadron operated off of the Atlantic, off the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:34:33 coast. And so the interesting thing about this is that the amount of actual civilian reports that come in from the ocean is immense. I mean, if you want to see, if you go to, if you guys go to a list of some of the most heavily reported UFO sightings areas, there was actually, I believe Myrtle Beach, South Carolina was number one on many different, you know, web, websites or whatever is kind of where they gather all the available information on UFO reporting. And I think they do this through Mufon, which is the mutual UFO network. They do this through all of the reporting systems that they have in place. And the most heavily reported areas are usually coastal towns. But I know that Myrtle Beach, South Carolina was one of the top, it was actually
Starting point is 00:35:27 number one. And then if you even look from there, you had like, I think Jacksonville, South Carolina was, or sorry, Jacksonville, Florida was one. They had Myrtle Beach, North Myrtle Beach. Then they had, like, Hilton had, they had all these East Coast, especially southern-type areas, but I know they saw them in the northeast as well. And it's so crazy because even two summers ago, our daughter was outside. She was at Sunset Beach in North Carolina, which was like right on the border of South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And she saw these red lights with her uncle. which, you know, it's like 60, I guess. But anyways, she was sitting out there talking to them, and all of a sudden these red lights come out in the sky out of nowhere, and they're like looking up going, what in the world is this? Yeah. And actually, the lights they seen that day off sunset beach was very similar to,
Starting point is 00:36:25 there's a very huge video, and I believe this guy was either off the coast of North Carolina or South Carolina. But either way, they were on a boat. a good ways off the coast and this guy just started filming and there was multiple lights that were just appearing in the distance on the horizon. So this is looking out
Starting point is 00:36:43 towards the ocean. Right. And these lights were red. Yeah. Out in the horizon. Yeah. But a lot of people say they look red or orange. Now, one of the things interesting to that as well is Bob Lazar said that when he, he actually got in trouble for this, but while he was working at Area
Starting point is 00:36:59 51S4, at one point in time, kind of towards the latter, of when he was working there. He actually took some of his friends out to this road to where he knew, he said, that they were going to be trying to test these things, right? And so he took his friends out to this random road, you know, in the middle of the desert,
Starting point is 00:37:19 somewhere you can kind of see the area of Area 51. And there's so many people to do that, by the way. There are so many civilians that go around Area 51 just to see what they can see, they go to the gates, whatever. But he took his friends here, and he did it probably three, four, five times. before he eventually got caught because they realized and connected the fact that he worked there and he knew the times that they were going to test these things right or somehow right and so when they would test these things it it it appeared to be like an orange or red looking glow didn't it didn't typically blink or any of that stuff and one of the things bob said was that he believes the reason why these things emit a a red or orange glow is similar to
Starting point is 00:38:03 why you would see the moon red or orange in certain phases of the night. Like a red moon? Yeah, but it all has to do with our... Not a not meaning a blood moon. It all has to do with our atmosphere. It has to do with how we're seeing the light through. But also it has to do with the friction
Starting point is 00:38:22 of the, I guess, the craft. So if these things do actually have a gravity field around them, right? Then that gravity field would be interacting with our gravity field, which would create a gas, which, I mean, from an astrophysicist's standpoint, it is a gas it creates. And so it's the interaction between atmospheres, between gravities. That makes sense. That creates a light, and that's also how they move. So it's not necessarily a physical LED light or something, right? It's a friction between atmospheres. Yeah. Wow. It's crazy. So I wanted to explain that. But yes, there are tons and tons and tons of
Starting point is 00:39:03 sidinges over the oceans. I mean, and that's, I mean, it's not all of the sightings is over oceans, but there is a heavy, uh, siding over the ocean. I mean, it's everywhere. It's oceans are military bases. Yeah. With nuclear power or something. For sure. All right, let's listen to rest this interview on our radar. Um, we can tell, you know, where it's located, you know, perhaps what's located around it. If there's other objects we're detecting, how fast is going, what direction it's pointed in, what direction it's traveling in. So we call that velocity vector. So if we see this essentially a little circle, I have a tail coming off of it. And that tail kind of represents the nose of the vehicle, at least as its flight path is going. And so with that, you know, we would
Starting point is 00:39:48 typically see an aircraft just kind of trudging along with a straight line taking occasional turns. But these objects had a little bit more of a, I don't want to say random, but more less controlled flight path. That velocity vector would kind of jump around a bit more. They would not proceed in like a perfectly straight line, as you would imagine, like a flight navigation computer would take you, right? It takes you from A to B in the straightest line possible. These objects seem to kind of be moving in a direction that was not a straight line, but generally proceeding in that direction. And so they would kind of be meandering slightly, but moving in that general direction, both three-dimensionally and horizontally.
Starting point is 00:40:31 So winding around, going up, going down. So they're not on a flat plane, and they're not going in a straight line. So I don't want to draw too many firm statements like that because we would see them being flat, too. We'd see them perfectly stationary up there, regardless of the wind. Really? Mm-hmm. Yep. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:50 So what kind of wind are you talking about? Oh, gosh. I mean, at altitude, you can have anywhere up to 100, 120 knots of airspeed. Which is, what is that in miles per hour? It's about 130, 140 miles. So they're completely stationary with 140 mile an hour wind. Correct. How would something do that?
Starting point is 00:41:08 That's confusing to me as well. Even if we had something that could just burn that much energy, right? Like if you had a sphere surrounded by little rockets, right, just imagining something right now. Okay. And if you wanted to keep that perfectly stationary, right, against gravity, you could just fire all the rockets at the bottom really fast and hopefully keep it flat, right? It's going to have tiny little variations. And then if you have wind hitting it and all this, you could potentially have those rockets try to counter it,
Starting point is 00:41:34 but it would never be perfectly still in winds like that. Because the wind's not perfectly still either, right? Exactly. It changes in various. All right, so I want to, we need to break this down too. From the aviation's perspective of this. So yes, as we were talking about earlier, fighter jets, they operate extremely high altitudes, right?
Starting point is 00:41:55 So as an airline pilot or any pilot, the higher you go typically, the more winds you're going to face. So there's always something that pilots have to discuss or determine when they're on a flight path or they create a flight plan. And one of the things they have to do is if they're going west, right? So if you're going east to west, usually the winds are always west to east. That's like the tail winds or whatever, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's the jet stream. It's just how the earth moves and the winds. And you go way faster that way.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Well, no, you go slower that way. So you're always going to have a headwind. Like, the winds are always going to be to your actual nose of your airplane when you're going west. So if you're going to California from here, it's slower. Yeah, you're definitely going to be going slower. So if you have a 60-knought headwind, that means about 75 to 80 miles an hour is hitting your nose. So that's 75 to 80-mile-an-hour wind. is going to slow your aircraft down by about that much, right?
Starting point is 00:42:58 But when you're coming back, so you can go from South Carolina or North Carolina, whatever, to California, and you can do that trip and say in a certain aircraft in five hours, right? But, or sorry, you might do that South Carolina to California in six or seven hours. But on the way, if you go from California to South Carolina with a tailwind, which is 60 knots or 70 knots, you're going to do that in four or five hours. going to gain two hours because the wind's pushing you rather than you fighting the wind. One of the things Ryan was talking about here is no matter what, any aircraft is going to be affected by the wind, regardless of how it is, whether it is a crosswind, which is the wind is hitting you on the side. If it's a headwind, you're going to be moving backwards, especially if you're
Starting point is 00:43:47 stationary. And keep in mind, he said these things were stationary. So if you're stationary, if it's a crosswind, you're going to be moving left or right. depending on which way the wind is. If it's a headwind, you're going to be moving backwards. If it's a tell when you're going to be moving frontwards. There's no way that you can really prevent that other than... Right. But can a plane actually go backwards?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Yes. There has actually been planes, like especially some of the smaller planes. There are videos of this, but like some of the small little single-engine planes have taken off in like winds that are like 70 or... Well, not 70, but I've seen like 40-knott winds or these planes get into a 40-not wind, which is like 50-0. 60 miles an hour, and it looks like they're stationary. I mean, it's almost like they're floating and not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:44:33 But they're actually going backwards. Some planes have actually went backwards because the wind was so strong that they just didn't have the power to power past the winds to actually get that forward motion. So, but the interesting thing here is that these things were at what sounds like. If he's talking about 120 not winds, right, you're talking about at, least 50,000 feet because you don't typically have 120 knot winds anything below 50 or 40,000 feet. So this thing just sitting there and it's not moving, not being affected at all by the winds. And this is one of the thing Ryan called out as a pilot. And this is him seeing it at the
Starting point is 00:45:14 same altitude, I guess, right? So it's not really going backwards. Like we would see it going backwards. It's just sitting still. Yeah, there's no way. Well, first of all, you can't even put an airplane stationary, right, without it going backwards or frontwards or somewhere. I mean, it's got to be going somewhere. There's, you know, the laws of gravity say you have to be doing something, right? And helicopters are the exception of that. But helicopters are always... Because they're up and down because their thing is on the top.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yes. But even a helicopter, especially with 120 not winds, that high, which is why helicopters not fly the high number one, but you know, you're not going to be able to sit still. And no matter how much power you have in that blade, which is, you know, the blade, how helicopters work is, is they, how they hover,
Starting point is 00:46:07 is they want to push that wind down and they want to keep them up. And then, and how helicopters go forward is, is they actually have a tilt in their blade. When they tilt their blade, like forward or backwards or whatever, that's how they cut the air to push,
Starting point is 00:46:22 the helicopter. Yeah, the aircraft forward. Right. But something just sitting there and just kind of being stationary is nuts. And what altitude is this? I don't know, but if he's talking about 120 not winds, it has to be
Starting point is 00:46:36 40, 50,000 feet. Has to be. Because you just don't see those winds anything below that. Now, would a normal, would a normal like commercial aircraft be at that altitude? Yeah, typically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 That's their cruising. 40, 50,000 feet. I guess that's their cruising altitude. Yeah, but even 120 knot winds is fast. I mean, you know, now I've seen, you know, you can see
Starting point is 00:47:01 120 not winds or whatever, but it's just not often, right? And you've got to be like a head of a front that's coming through like a very powerful front and you've got to be at like 40, 50,000 feet and then you can see that. So I've seen like pilots post
Starting point is 00:47:18 like, check this head wind out, 130 knots, right? And they're like 45,000 feet. And it's just rare for them. And then so everybody would be like, this is on Facebook, Paisal's Post is like, holy shit, that's crazy, right? Because they're really not moving. Well, no, they're moving, but it's just, it's just you don't see those, you don't see those winds very often.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Right. So, you know, and keeping in mind, too, the fighter jets do fly at higher altitudes, right? So, I mean, they can fly higher. So, you know, that 120-0 wind is rare, typically. not rare, rare, but it's rare. But if you have a fighter jet flying at 50 and 60,000 feet, right, that's not as rare. So the fact, I guess the point is that he saw this thing stationary and it was not affected. Now, if you want to go back to Bob Lazar and how Bob Lazar believed that these craft actually used, you know, or actually moved, he thought there was a gravity field, which is they use their gravity field, which it creates.
Starting point is 00:48:21 on this craft to interact with our gravity field, which is how they moved basically without... Yeah, simultaneously. Yeah, or I mean, they just moved without effort, right? Right. And also people say, well, how could they survive going that fast? Well, you have to remember. The only reason that a fighter pilot or any pilot can't survive going, you know, say
Starting point is 00:48:47 Mach 20 or light speed is because of gravity. gravity determines the you know like nine Gs right that's nine times yeah it's pushing against yourself against you yes yeah and so that all has to do with gravity but what if you have a craft that creates its own gravity around it right so you have no pressure on you in the craft no no you have a way pressures on the outside yeah you have a way to to manipulate your gravity filled against the other right and then your gravity fill stays the same. So you're not going to actually feel anything, right? I mean, you're just not. But that also explains, you know, people have asked, like, how would spacecraft travel light
Starting point is 00:49:33 years, you know, that fast without hitting something, right? And it's because gravity is because every planet, even ever meteor, everything in our, in our, in space has a gravity field. Everything. I mean, that's literally the reason the oceans move the way they do based on the moon. And it's all gravity-based. Everything has gravity filled. You can warp around things. So if you have your own gravity field that you're hitting or you're coming into contact with any gravity, and you have your own gravity field, you're kind of doing that, it'll basically slingshot you around that field.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Oh, and that's why people see if it's slingshotting them, that's why a lot of people see these things going, Whom, boom, like zimming. But I don't think they're doing that in our atmosphere. I think they've figured out a way to manipulate their gravity field with ours. But I also think they have a way to just whatever. I mean, that's what kind of Bob Lazarus explaining some of the other astrophysicists. It's not just me randomly saying random BS. Oh, no, I'm not saying that either.
Starting point is 00:50:38 But let's continue listening this and we'll pick back up in a second. It does. So it's almost like it's the wind. It's not even really fighting the wind, it seems. It just seems like it's just there in a way. Wow. So the first time you see these things, what are your thoughts? Yeah, the first time really was, well, you know, what is this, right?
Starting point is 00:51:01 It's not a UFO or something mysterious at this point. It's at what we're thinking at this point we see on the radar is just, well, our radar is broken, right? These perhaps don't represent physical objects yet because we hadn't, you know, visually seen these or seen them on our camera yet. And so, you know, we kind of like, hey, you go, what's going on here? You know, is anyone all seeing this kind of thing? But not really like investigating it, right? It's just kind of like, all right, there's stuff out there, but maybe next time we'll take a look. But the way our systems work, when we have all these contacts on our radar, and if we kind of just,
Starting point is 00:51:35 whoop, select one out with our little cursor there, all our sensors go to it. Our Fleer goes to it, which is our camera system, all our weapons. They have, like, their own little eyes in some sense, and they all look. in that direction. And so eventually, you know, someone had one of these selected and flew close enough so that as they look at their flare system, their camera, they could see something that was at the spot represented on the radar, right? So there was something there?
Starting point is 00:52:01 So they were seeing it visually with their own eyes? Not this point, just on the fleer system. The flare system. And so that's a, it's a regular camera and also an infrared camera. And so typically we'll roll around in infrared just because it returns a better image. typically. So yeah, you know, it didn't look like an object they were seeing on the Fleer. It just looked like a source of IR energy in a sense, almost as if someone was shining a flashlight. But something had to be there to be reflecting that energy or creating it. So at this point, to answer your question, now we're like, okay, this isn't just an error in our radar. This is perhaps, you know, we're thinking this is real. We have to really respect this as like a safety hazard now. Even if it's just a small, you know, however, small ribbon of tinfoil, right? Like that sucked down the engine
Starting point is 00:52:47 to still take out an aircraft, right? So we have to be very respectful of that. Like a mylar balloon type thing? Potentially, right, yeah. But how fast do these things going? So sometimes stationary, right? Sometimes they would be going around 0.6 to 0.8 Mach, which is
Starting point is 00:53:04 at altitude about, you know, 240 to maybe 330 knots, you know, around there. So somewhere in the range of an airplane? Yeah. A fighter aircraft would be kind of flying around at those air speeds, except sometimes they would be perfectly stationary as well. Right. So it's not exhibiting any sort of patterns that you've recognized in the past? No, they have actually.
Starting point is 00:53:28 But with the stationary, no, right? Correct. With the stationary, no. With the meandering kind of flight path, no. But I would also see them essentially fly what we call a racetrack pattern. And essentially what that means is they fly in a straight path, and then they do a little. like a 108 degree turn in a certain direction. Then they fly a straight path, then turn again. You know, so that's what we call a racetrack pattern as opposed to a circular holding pattern.
Starting point is 00:53:54 We did witness racetrack patterns. In fact, I think there's been some cases off the West Coast just the past couple weeks where people have also been observing object flying in racetrack patterns, high at altitude with lights. So I do recognize that behavior, but I don't necessarily that mean, I don't necessarily think that means we have to attribute it to normal behavior necessarily. That type of flight path is important because it's a very efficient way to fly. If you have to maintain the position in a certain area, you want to minimize how much you're turning. Anytime you're turning in an aircraft,
Starting point is 00:54:28 you're using more energy than if you were just flying straight and level. And so by having a racetrack pattern, it's an efficient way of holding in a position by maximizing straight and level time and minimizing your turn time. And how long would these things stay up there for? So from my experience, from our experience, and again, we weren't studying these, but they were always out there. You know, they were out there when we took off. We'd see them.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And then we'd go to land, they would still be out there. Like every day? Every day. Every day. Every day. So you guys go from not having any idea that these things are out there to upgraded radar system, to seeing them every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:06 What is the thought? Like, how are you feeling when these, like, is there an, uh, a, uh, evolution of the thought pattern of how you're addressing these things and thinking about them. Initially, you're thinking their errors. When do you start getting a thought that like, what the fuck is this thing? Yeah. So that happened when we visually saw one. And the first time we visually saw one, the object was directly at what we call that entry point of the area. So, you know, that box that I told you about in the sky that starts 10 miles off the coast, there's a particular their GPS location and altitude where incoming traffic will fly in.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And outbound traffic will fly in the exact same spot, but will fly out 1,000 feet lower. There were two aircraft from my squadron, VFA 11, and we flew, or excuse me, they flew, took off as a flight of two. That means they're essentially flying in a formation like this. And as they hit the area, one of these objects went right between the aircraft. The lead aircrew saw the object. The dash two aircraft crew did not, which is not surprising because they're usually, you know, you're very focused on flying formation, you're just staring right at that aircraft. The lead really has actual leeway to look around.
Starting point is 00:56:23 So he saw it, and, you know, he immediately came back. I have to assume he didn't have it on his radar because he wouldn't have flown through this object at the working, at the entrance point. He flew, he turned around, flew back, landed, and I was in. the ready room when he'd come back and you know he had all his gear on which typically is not a good thing because you want to get that stuff off as fast as possible so usually means you know there's a problem of some nature and you know he was just sitting there saying hey you know i was hit one of those damn things and we all knew what he's referring to even though we didn't necessarily have a name for just because we were seeing these so much and he described it you know he described it
Starting point is 00:57:01 just as a black or dark gray cube and that cube was inside of a clear or a tree translucent sphere. And essentially the apex or the corners of that cube, best you could tell, we're touching inside of that sphere. And that description mirrors many of the descriptions that people have had of these, whatever you want to call them. They're calling them UAPs now for some strange reason. UFOs is a, I don't know, does it have a dirty connotation to it?
Starting point is 00:57:30 And is it tainted because of so many crazy people talk about UFOs? Is that what it is? It does come with a lot of assumptions. baked in. It baked in. That's, yeah. So that's something, but whatever it is, that is a design that people have reported seeing before, that this translucent sphere and this cube.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Can you see through the cube? Not to my understanding now. So it's some sort of solid black cube that's inside this translucent sphere. And it's just floating around and flying around the sky. So, you know, that's a good point. Is it floating around? Is it flying around? It's doing both, which is strange, right?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Because you could think of that description, okay, that's kind of some kind of weird balloon maybe with stuff in it. And that's certainly, you know, one way, if you just view that angle of it, then it seems explainable. But when that, you know, the balloon-like object starts cruising down at, you know, 0.8 Mach, you know, that nullifies that particular idea. And you'll see, you'll see that a lot where it's not just like that one picture or that one behavior. It's really kind of to zoom out a bit and look at everything in relation to each other and say, okay, why is this weird? You know, okay, it was hanging out in a racetrack pattern. That's not exotic. But when you learned it was doing it for, you know, perhaps 13 hours.
Starting point is 00:58:49 13 hours. You know, perhaps they were out there all the time, you know. So, you know, I land and I go back. And we weren't on an Intel mission to analyze you. Right. We're going to do our training. It's very expensive. 30K an hour to fly these things, right? So really the only time we can put energy into looking at these things is when we're kind of transiting back and forth or waiting for a fight to start. And so, you know, it's never like a dedicated analysis.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Wow. This is crazy. Yeah. So and keep it in mind to you, yeah. The technology we have is 30,000 an hour. You can't just be out there for a long time. And fighter jets cannot be out for a long time. No. And they are out there. But what was really interesting is he said, is this is a black Q. thing engulfed by a, well, no, he said black cube. A black cube engulfed by a white, like, spherical thing. Yeah, translucent. You can see through it. Yeah. And I think that's what a lot of us see just in the sky, because we're not close enough like they are, right? Yeah, I mean, and kind of how he was referring to this is he had a ship of two, what they call it in aviation, as you have, you know, say, well, I guess the best example is if you ever seen the Blue Angels or any of the fighter. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:04 They're always keeping their eye just on the jet. The aircrafts. Yes. They're not looking out, you know. And the lead guy was the one who saw him because he could look in front and nobody else could. Yeah. The biggest thing about formation flying is everyone except for the lead guy has to be looking at the wing 24-7. That's all they're looking at anything else.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Yeah. They're just looking at the wing. So obviously they didn't see it But the main guy in the middle of the formation He's the one that saw this thing And he said they went right in between it Yeah Or it went right in between them
Starting point is 01:00:39 Yeah And I mean, you know And the thing is Is some of the things we can take away from this I guess is This thing not only And we actually, it's funny I did not remember that clip at all
Starting point is 01:00:53 But I wanted to play it I mean I remembered him kind of talking and stuff But when you talked about the mock.6.8, which is up to 300 and probably 50 miles an hour, somewhere around there. That's a typical speed for like an airliner. But there's no thing that we know of, at least, that can go also stationary and then also do that as well. Right. Right. And also the other thing is like the fact that they were always out there. Like no matter when they went out, they were there.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And so this is something that, you know, was you're going to think, well, if you're not a lot of, If you want to try to chalk it up to a drone, I mean, there must be some insane battery that we've never heard of that just stays up all the time, right? Or, but number two, we don't know of a drone that can fly Mach 8 right now. I mean, I guess you can, but it's not going to also be stationary. I mean, you got to think, you got to think about our, our, the drones that the United States military has, which they used to. And what they're using for Ukraine to help Ukraine even. Well, yeah, that. And yeah, and then, you know, even in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Afghanistan, we use them, so on and so forth. But we don't have any technology that we know of that does that. That just can stop. Yeah. And so this is just one, you know, one occurrence of what they witnessed. I don't know that what Commander David Fraver, off the coast of California, I don't know that what they saw was the same. Right. And it might not be.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah, the way this thing moved and how they recognized this deal and they saw it basically disappear. you know, you're talking about speeds that are insane. And even when David Frey were talked about, you know, this thing had to have come down from either space or like, you know, plus 80,000 feet to our level instantly. Right. This was nothing like what Ryan was just now referring to. Yeah, and he's saying they see this on a daily basis.
Starting point is 01:02:47 And that kind of explains people from the ground, civil's, you know, regular people looking in the sky and seeing this stuff, and they look like I've seen a lot of videos where people are just they're video with their phones and these things are not moving. They're just still for like 10 minutes. Yeah. And I'm like what how can you explain that? Well, here's the thing. So we've obviously had
Starting point is 01:03:15 tons of civilian sightings of UFOs and for so long these civilian sightings have just been chalked up to crazy people. These people are crazy. And even if you want to go to as deep as people that say they have been abducted, you know, Betty and Barney Hill. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:35 there's been reports of abductions. There's been people that have been traumatized according to them based on they say that they were abducted and brought back. And this is something that right now all of us could say, well, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I mean, that's just crazy. Oh, yeah. right now we can, but at least now the government and people around the world are acknowledging these things exist. So we know they're in the sky. So who knows what's going to happen in the next 10 years? Then they're going to say, oh yeah, well, you know, some people have been abducted and we know that and we've been knowing that for like, you know, 100 years. But what we have to remember too, when we talk about this, we have to remember one thing. We can we can see. that people that say they were abducted are crazy, right? Just like people have always said that people that believed in UFOs are crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And now we're starting to hear military pilots come out and say that, you know, this is a UFO. It has to be we have Department of Defense and Pentagon saying this. But keep in mind, UFO, there was a report that UFO encounters left witnesses with radiation burns, brain problems, and damaged nerves. And this is literally the Pentagon documents, okay? So the UFO sightings can leave witnesses injured, suffering, radiation burns, brain problems, and damaged nerves, according to a newly released Pentagon vile, which was last year.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And so the report obtained, and it was actually obtained by the Sun, from the Defense Intelligence Agency or DIA, as part of the Freedom of Information request, investigates the health impacts on humans who have had paranormal or UFO experiences. And these are... Like up-close experiences with these things. They have, like, extreme...
Starting point is 01:05:21 Radiation and burns and things like that happen to them. Yeah, they've had anything from burnt. And this is, keeping in mind, this is the Department of Defense files. So this is no BS. This is real stuff. These are things that legitimately researched or not investigated, researched. They found some of these victims of burnt skin, heart palpitations, nosebleeds and severe nosebleeds, high fever for no reason, hair loss, crazy headaches, extreme nightmares and night terrors after this encounter. And so, you know, a lot of these things, too, if you think about the radiation side of things,
Starting point is 01:05:55 a lot of this stuff can relate to radiation. So hair loss, even fever, nosebleeds can do it. Heart palpitations are radiation as well. Nightmares could potentially be some kind of brain-type dill that, you know, because you get to remember radiation is like a microwave-type thing that goes through your body. Right. And if you want to think about radiation, that kind of goes back to the gravity thing, that, you know, that's the, like, the red thing. or seeing around the craft is radiation.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Yeah. So the report was titled Anonymous, acute, and Sub-acute Field Effects on Human and Biological Tissues. And it basically investigates injuries to human observers by Anonymous Advanced Aerospace Systems, is what the Department of Defense in the United States has said. And so the report prepared for the DIA warns that such objects may be a threat to United States' interest. And humans have been found to have been injured from experiments.
Starting point is 01:06:51 exposures to anonymous vehicles, especially airborne and when in close proximity, it reads. So the report noted that often these injuries are related to electromagnetic radiation and links them to energy-related propulsion systems, okay? Exactly. So keep this in mind. So if you have a gravity field, which is going to create an extreme energy. Right. And that's that glow around the vehicle.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah. And so this is not something that, you know, when we talk about, If you think about just a gravity field Like if a craft could create a gravity field Well the gravity field itself is not radiation It's not like the craft is operating on radiation If we have to understand what radiation means And you think about atoms and how the atmosphere works
Starting point is 01:07:37 And gravity It's a friction between the two atmospheres Yes, between the... It is literally atoms that are interacting with each other And when you interact atoms If you think about nuclear warheads well, they split atoms. They do those things.
Starting point is 01:07:51 That is the system, an atom bomb, for example, right? And that is all based on energy. That is based on when an atom bomb goes off or even a nuclear warhead goes off, the energy and the radiation that comes from that on that actual reaction in that warhead and the just immense power that comes from that, right? Like an atom bomb, for example.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Right. But if you think about these crafts, It's the friction that's causing the glow, the radiation. And that's what's causing the burns and all the other things to people. Yes. And it's a friction of their craft being in our atmosphere. But that's what actually makes a move. Yeah, so just on this report, there were 42 cases from medical files and 300 similar unpublished cases
Starting point is 01:08:41 where humans have been injured after anonymous encounters or UFO encounters. So the study argued it was possible to use this medical information to reverse engineer UFOs from unknown preventants that may be a threat to United States interest. The report also featured a useful database which listed the biological effects of UFO sightings on humans and their frequency. Compiled U.S.-based civilization research agency, Mufon obtained this report. It was even included bizarre occurrences such as apparent abduction, unaccounted for pregnancy, sexual encounters, experience of telapathy telepathy? Telepathy?
Starting point is 01:09:22 And perceived teleportation. And another fascinating document included in the file sets out how to categorize anomalous behavior with encounters with ghost, Yeti's, spirits, whatever. But they specifically said, like, when these people are encountering something, we believe it is UFOs. We believe it
Starting point is 01:09:39 is something from potentially another planet. And so the Department of Defense literally has files, which has now been made public. There are files that you guys can go read that there are people and numerous people that have actually had close encounters. Even after investigations, it appears to they have no other explanation besides they have radiation damage. And these people say that they were either abducted or came in close contact with UFOs. But I also want to put in perspective of just a normal
Starting point is 01:10:16 civilization people that look in the sky and see something crazy that were not crazy. Like there's reports about this stuff all the time. Like normally all the time. Listen, just last Wednesday my daughter videos,
Starting point is 01:10:32 something in the sky that was really crazy. I've never seen anything like it and I want you to post it on Facebook. Yeah. But it had like... On Twitter. I'm doing it on Twitter. Or whatever. It was just like it did kind of look like a cube but it was more like a rectangular cube.
Starting point is 01:10:46 but also had colors in it. It had white, kind of yellow. Orangy. No, no, not yellow. No, no. Not yellow. It was orangey and red. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:54 That's what it looked like. And she literally snapped this from her window while she was driving down the streets of Spartanburg, South Carolina. Last Wednesday. Yeah. Now, this is the second time she's had an encounter, I think, with UFOs. On the beach, yeah. Yeah. I also believe we've had encounters.
Starting point is 01:11:14 But I'm just saying. Yeah. It's the people that see these things or watch these things. Most normal people are like in their everyday life. You know, they're going to work, coming home, cooking dinner, getting the kids ready to for bed. And never look. Yeah, you don't look up at the sky. It's kind of why, I mean, it's similar to like why some people, like, if you take one person that's always aware of their surroundings and you take someone that is never aware of their surroundings, who's going to be likely to be murdered in public? It's going to be the people that are never aware of the surroundings. Exactly. Because that person is never going to see it coming, ever. So like, I mean, and that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:11:54 We did a podcast the other day. It's like, never look up. There's a movie entitled, Never Look Up. And it's about a meteor that's coming to Earth and it's going to hit Earth. And these people are like, no, we're just not going to look up. And as long as we don't look up, it's not even an issue. Right. There are so many people that are actually oblivious to everything else that's going on.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah. And part of that is because we're always in our phones. We're always in a TV. We're always in something. Yeah, and we're in our, like, everyday lives. This is what I do every day. I wake up. I go to work.
Starting point is 01:12:22 I come home. I cook dinner. I pet my puppies. I take a shower and I go to bed or whatever. You know, there's not a lot of people that look outside their box, I guess, is what I'm saying. And the people that do look outside their box is the ones that are seeing this stuff. And especially, I want to say this, when, like, the pandemic happened. and everyone was stuck at home, more people were going outside to look at the skies,
Starting point is 01:12:50 and there was more and more and more reports during that time, during COVID. Yeah, we've actually seen a lot of reports. Actually, someone just sent us the other day this report. There was this morning news station. And you know how morning news and a lot of news stations will have, you know, cameras that are overlooking the city, right? And so it's like five in the morning. It's like the first broadcast of the day.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Right, still dark. Yeah, still dark. These news reporters are like, do you see this on the camera? And it looks like literally just a, I don't know, probably a thousand lights that are just moving in some kind of crazy weird formation. It almost looks like a school of fish in the sky. But they're lit, you know, and they're moving just weird and awkward. I mean, I don't know what that is. Yeah, but it was on a news station and they're like, holy cow, like when they're recording or broadcasting,
Starting point is 01:13:44 They're seeing this and they didn't even know what to do. Yeah, and then there was a, there was a recent video on TikTok, and it was shared crazy. But this club in Las Vegas had what appeared to have some kind of UFO thing above the club. And there was people all across Las Vegas posting this. It had a red, there was one red type center. But it was interesting because this club actually had what was basically like these spotlights, these strobe lights that would go up in the sky. To get people to come to the club. Or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah, it was just a show thing. Right. And one of the spotlights every once in while would shine in this particular location where these lights were just hovering above the club kind of in the clouds. And when that one spotlight would hit this thing, it would reflect off of it. Yeah. And you see like a big light like two seconds later. Yeah. It was really weird.
Starting point is 01:14:39 The thing is that there's zero question to me that we have. have UFOs on this planet. I do think if we have to, I mean, look, and there's been people that have reached out to us and we have two factions of people about the UFO thing. We have a large group of people that say that the whole UFO thing is a false flag. It is the government or whoever trying to take our attention off of something else that is happening. There is a lot of people that reach out to us, not a lot, but a decent amount of people, they reach out to us and they say, guys, the UFO thing is just a false flag.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And there's a lot of Christians reach out to us about that as well that say the UFO thing is the government excuse to that when the rapture happens as far as Christians go. They're going to blame it on UFOs to the rest of the world, right? And maybe you guys are right. And then there's the other people that talk about it, you know, hey, this is a false flag. They just want to take your attention off what's really going on. I don't believe that for sure because there's no way you're taking attention off of what's really going on in this world right now, which is, I mean, you've got the pandemic, you've got the vaccine. You've got so many people finally really understanding and seeing what's going on. I don't give a damn.
Starting point is 01:15:59 You could fly a spaceship into the middle of the United States or now and film it. And people are still not going to forget all the craziness is going on. So I don't believe that's it at all because they're just not that dumb. Now, could this be an excuse by the government with somehow, you know, if the rapture thing happens, you know, for people that believe in that, which I do. Well, if the rapture happens, who cares at that point? I know. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:16:30 But there's a lot of people that say, like, maybe this is something that government is trying to just make everyone believe us UFOs if that does happen, right? I don't know. This is what I will say. Regardless, whether you're a Christian or not, I believe UFOs are real. I believe we've talked about this many times on the podcast. In the Bible, it talks about I created the heavens and the earth. And when I'm just talking about the Bible perspective on this, and it says that when the times, when the end time is near,
Starting point is 01:16:55 when the days are growing closer to my return, right? This is just the Bible perspective. It talks about you will see signs from the heavens, and they will be without question or whatever that line is, right? And I think, yes, we are seeing more signs from the heavens. and as God refers to in the Bible as the heavens is everything outside of the earth, which would be space. And so if he says that you will see signs from the heavens, well, we're seeing them all the time now.
Starting point is 01:17:24 They're everywhere. The heavens are up there. And the heavens, as it refers to in the Bible, is, that's where we're seeing all these UFO things. We're seeing them in the sky. We can't explain them. We don't understand what it is, but it is signs of something, right? And we don't know what it is. So then you say that if you don't believe in God whatsoever, God don't even exist.
Starting point is 01:17:42 God don't even exist, right? Well, you also can't say that if you believe in evolution, right? If you believe in that something created off of something because we had all the properties of life on Earth, there's no way you can say that that also didn't happen on probably millions of other planets in our universe, right? And possibly even billions. And then you also can't say that those life forms, right, that there has to be a certain amount of life forms. Right, that are smarter than us and come to here before we can get to them.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Yeah, that are way smarter. But we're very young in the universe. I mean, the Earth is really actually a young planet if you look at some of the other solar systems, some of the other planets. Right. And also, in reality, if this Earth ever advances or ever gets destroyed, it's probably not going to be from UFOs, it's probably going to be from ourselves. And the only way that a civilization will ever get smart enough to traverse the universe on light speed, because obviously we see how hard it is to come up with technology, but especially when politics are involved, when you have two different sides of the coin, you're always fighting the other one. You're never going to get nowhere. And the only way an alien civilization exists is to have everyone on board with whatever that goal is. So maybe
Starting point is 01:19:04 you can call that a dictatorship country or world. I don't know. Or it's just that they just never allowed whatever has sickened so many minds in this world. Right. But I'm still not going to say that I don't think alien life has been here for centuries. No, I think they have, yeah, absolutely. During ancient times. And I think a lot of their ports are in the ocean. Yeah, I think they're under the ocean.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah, the ocean 100%. Because we've only explored, what, 10, 15% of the ocean? 10 now. I think it was like 10 years ago. I think it was 5%. I think they say 10% now. And if you see all these crafts, these weird things, they're around the ocean. And you can even see some of these videos when they're just like going down and the water splashing around.
Starting point is 01:19:56 And then they just go boop into the ocean. Yeah. And they disappear. Well, the video you're actually... These crafts, they can go from air to water like two seconds. Yeah, they're... Yeah, they're crafts that can move from air to water. And that video is not just a random BS video.
Starting point is 01:20:14 That is a video off a Navy Battleship Destroyer, a high-resolution Fleer video where they show this craft coming into the ocean and entering the ocean and disappearing. You do see a splash, right? But the crazier thing is they had a submarine in the area of the time, and they had helicopters. They dispatched both the submarine and the helicopter. helicopter to that location in the ocean, which was not very far from their battleship,
Starting point is 01:20:43 and they saw nothing, right? I mean, at first they were like, well, something had to have crashed in the ocean because, like, you know. We saw it. Yeah. So they sent a submarine, like, right after. The submarine was, like, right there. The submarine didn't pick anything on sonar.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Didn't none of that. They had helicopters flying over. The submarine saw zero. And this submarine, by the way, and I researched that a little more, this submarine could see basically everything. with this highly whatever whatever
Starting point is 01:21:13 for a decent amount of area in the ocean there was nothing right there was no wreckage there was there was zero there was some connection between the ocean and these crafts and I don't know what it is but what I will say is if you want to talk about like if you don't talk about like
Starting point is 01:21:30 could this be another country could this be the United States technology or any of this stuff like the ocean thing really over almost anything Like you could say like, okay, could someone make a craft somehow to get mock speeds or not mock speeds, light speeds. I don't even think light speed. Because if we had the technology to have light speed, we would be utilizing it to go other places. Right. But we don't have that. But even more so, and I know it sounds crazy, I almost think a trans, what is it called? Transmedium. You have transmedium vehicles, which are air. air, water, or whatever. They can go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:22:14 They can go anywhere. That's just really hard to figure out that propulsion. Yeah, there's no way we could any, there's no way anyone could do that in this world. If anyone in this world, Russians, Chinese, whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Well, we know it ain't Russians. Yeah, well, I'm just saying if they had a craft in the air and went into the ocean, that would be a demolished crash. Yeah. You know, it would be a crash. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:22:39 We definitely know it isn't Russians because Russians can't win against Ukraine. I mean, they're literally doing everything they can and they're just not winning. China definitely probably not either because, I mean, China is not as advanced as people think they are. But they do have the biggest antenna in the world. And if we ever... Yeah, they're actually searching. Well, they've got signals from space. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:02 And I don't know if you guys have seen this, but this is a humongous... And it's a satellite dome. like dome in China. So if there's ever signals, it's going to go to them first. And they've actually had them. I think they had them last year. They had them a couple years back. These are radio signals that are getting from space.
Starting point is 01:23:21 The far reaches of space. And the scientist there, it is the biggest transmitter or the biggest dome to try to receive signals. You guys got to look it up. It's like humongous. And they said that this, they have. receive signals that they do not believe is well they do believe it is
Starting point is 01:23:40 intelligent something you know somehow submitting a signal whether it from the Milky Way or outside our galaxy I don't know but they don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know but all and do know is that it is probably an intelligent signal
Starting point is 01:23:59 they just don't know whether it is intentional you know like trying to send a signal or it is something we're picking up based on whatever their technology or their civilization could be. You know, but we got this, you know, CERN Collider. It's, we've had a podcast on that. Yeah. It is, it is very interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:19 I want to touch back on that again, but we're doing some weird stuff. That was like the God particle thing. Yeah, that's where they're trying to find new particles, basically like atoms or, you know, whatever. And they have. And it is extremely interesting. and there is actual videos and pictures of when they send this beam out to space, this intense energy source, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:44 it creates almost lightning and thunderstorms in the atmosphere around it. And that's no BS. Yeah, it's so powerful. Yeah. So there's so much to be said about this. We could talk about this forever. I don't know. I mean, I hope we didn't go all over the place tonight.
Starting point is 01:24:59 We try not to, but it is, it is, I don't think the government's ever going to ever fully tell us what really is going on. But what I will tell you is that I know it. I 100% believe they're here. I believe UFOs are here. I believe aliens are here. And I believe the military pilots and the military knows it.
Starting point is 01:25:20 And I think the government knows it. Why the government isn't saying it, I don't know. I just think they don't necessarily know. Yeah. And it makes them look dumb, actually. I know. but I want Chad too to put on Twitter like just the accounts of
Starting point is 01:25:35 regular people seeing these things in the sky because I think that's really important because those people are like you and I right? Yeah. Yeah and I actually have the video but it's weird something's going on with that video so yeah I will put them on our Twitter I will put them on our Twitter in best of yours podcast
Starting point is 01:25:54 regular people seeing stuff out of nowhere yeah I will put those videos on our Twitter I don't know, man I'm curious We're gonna keep hearing stuff They're trying to soften us up To the notion of their aliens And they could even be here
Starting point is 01:26:11 We don't even know We just don't know how deep it is Like how much they actually might be here No, we don't know Listen, have you guys heard of Alanis? Yeah, Alanis I mean it was, I think it was a real place I swear to God
Starting point is 01:26:24 But I do think there's people There's things in the ocean there From other planets Or it could be a civilization that we just forgot about or we just don't know. A lost civilization. You don't know. Oh, we could have mermaids right now. Good.
Starting point is 01:26:38 It's possible. Who knows? Well, they're very advanced mermaids. All right, guys, until next time, we love you, and peace out. Peace out. River's going to cry when you're going to be here, hanging on, waiting for you call. Black time. As a wave, passing by, leave a mark in our north.
Starting point is 01:27:14 to turn the memories. The river's gonna cry when you're gone, God, gun, God. River's gonna cry when you're gone, gone, gone, river's going to cry when you're gone, God, God, God,
Starting point is 01:27:31 God, the river's going to cry when you are River's going to cry when you're, River's going to cry when you're going. I was hoping you would stay, but I've always known, You would go find your own way When we climbed up in those streets
Starting point is 01:28:06 Twelve years old Feel the wind And watch the river wrong And the sun would always shine When we sat there You and I The river's gonna cry when you're Gone, gone, go cry when you're
Starting point is 01:28:39 River's gonna cry When you're gone I heard you want to leave this place Where we grew up this old town just leave it all behind the river's gonna cry when you're gone

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