Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts | Spy Balloons Or Aliens? | Interdimensional Aliens

Episode Date: February 18, 2023

With all the recent talk about the US Government shooting down UFOs or "Objects", we thought this would be a good time to give our thoughts. During the time our F22 Raptors were shooting down these ob...jects, we have also had very strange "meteors" falling from the sky, with the most recent meteor falling in Mission Texas. This has a lot of people asking if we are being invaded by aliens or if this is just the government trying to cover their incompetence. We also talk about a secret military operation that was going down off both the East Coast and West Coast. We also have to mention CERN and the Large Hadron Collider. Could CERN be playing a role in these crafts showing up? Could aliens actually be interdimensional.. All of that and more on this episode of UFO UAP Conspiracy Podcasts | Spy Balloons Or Aliens? | Interdimensional Aliens

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Starting point is 00:00:08 And welcome to investigate Earth podcast. I'm here with Chad alongside my beautiful wife of 10 years and 364 days, Sherry. And how many hours and how many minutes is that, babe? I'm not exactly sure about that. But thank you, babe. And you are such a handsome husband. And I love you so much. Well, you're a beautiful wife.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Welcome to the podcast. We're so glad you're here. We are for sure. Welcome to this show, guys. Tomorrow is our anniversary. We have been married 11 years tomorrow. Been together 12. But I'm really excited about that.
Starting point is 00:01:15 We're actually going to go to a hotel and we're going to just hang out and chill. And we're going to experience and have fun and kind of escape everything and just be with each other. You know, instead of be with each other on podcast or be with each other in everyday life. You know, we're going to be with each other like the F-22s are with Chinese spy blames. Even though we're not going to blow each other up. That's a difference. Yeah, we're going to be in a hotel like 10 miles away from our house. And we're going to be like the F-22.
Starting point is 00:01:43 and we're just going to have fun with, you know, the balloon. Oh, God. We could, we might just want to be quiet. Anyways, guys, welcome to the show. We got a good one for you. We are revisiting the UFO, UAP topic because, listen, let's face it. We have talked about this topic for four or five years now. And this is something I know so many of our listeners want to hear about and they want to
Starting point is 00:02:11 to, for us to discuss. And, uh, we've done it numerous times. But I think there's been so much go on, even just since our last UFO podcast, which was just a few days ago. I mean, probably about a week ago, I guess. And, uh, obviously if any of you have been following mainstream media, you will know that everything is about UFOs or something in the sky, F-22 shooting down spy balloons or whatever they want to call it, whatever they're referring to it this time. But what I will say is, uh, I believe that the U.S. government, has hijacked the term UFO and UAP in a
Starting point is 00:02:46 I don't know why exactly what I will say is that after the Chinese spy balloon happened, right? Then we had these other objects popping up and the way that the government came out in initial reports and were discussing these things they were talking and saying they were saying things such as
Starting point is 00:03:02 no obvious signs of propulsion they were saying that these things were screwing with their radars or their systems. They were saying a lot of the things that our military pilots such as Ryan Graves and Commander David Fravor and, you know, U.S. warships and all of these various military apparatus and people and very high-ranking officers as well have used to describe these things before, including Bob Lazar. Yeah, I just get ready to say, Bob Lazar, you cannot
Starting point is 00:03:34 forget about him. Yeah. So they're using these terms and then now they're kind of pivoting, you know, the government's pivoting saying, oh, it was nothing, don't worry about it, you know, it was just balloons. It was like civilian balloons of that. It was like this and this and this. Now, listen, that could be very well true. But nonetheless, the UFO and UAP, I guess, topic is kind of being hindered right now because they're trying to say, oh, come on, UFOs and UAPs, that's crazy, you know, blah, blah, blah. But listen, we're going to talk about it seriously. There's been some weird stuff that happened. a couple nights ago, which I posted on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:04:14 I had a Twitter thread about some activity that was going on off the coast of North, South Carolina, and Florida and Georgia. We also looked at activity that was going on off the coast of California, off the coast of Alaska, off the coast of Washington, Oregon. And then we had a very mysterious meteorite that came into the atmosphere over Texas. It was near McAllen, Texas and Mission Texas. Some people say that this thing actually impacted somewhere near Mercedes, Texas and in the valley area. There were people that were reporting to us that there was a large fire that happened after this.
Starting point is 00:04:52 There was the sheriff that came out and said that, hey, we do have reports of what they believe to be potentially a meteor that had come into their, well, I guess you can say airspace. And so all of this has been happening. And then we had, you know, over the past couple weeks, we had over the English Channel. We had these large fireball type things. People were calling them meteors or whatever that were coming in over the English Channel. They were coming in over Paris. They were coming in in various spots around the world. Even Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And we're talking about big, because we watch the videos. These are big, like, explosion-looking things. This is not just a normal, what I would consider a shooting star type. thing. These are big, big things that light up the whole sky. And I think there's a big difference between the two. Because a lot of us have seen shooting stars. You see it for like two seconds and you barely see it. And you're like, oh, make a wish. This is not anything like that. Yeah. And so, and to, I want to explain, I guess, the difference too, because I might forget to do it when we get to the meteor thing later. But you made a good point about shooting stars.
Starting point is 00:06:02 The difference in shooting stars and meteors that actually come and penetrate through the atmosphere and then make their way to the ground, the difference says shooting stars burn up in the atmosphere. So that's why you'll see them streak and then they're gone. You don't hear explosions. You don't hear none of that stuff. But the very interesting and strange thing about the Texas meteor was that there was an explosion and loud bang
Starting point is 00:06:24 before it ever even hit the ground. It's almost like when it was coming through our atmosphere. It made a big bang. Yeah, it was. And look, you know, that's typical. If you're near where a space shuttle or whatever reinter's at, atmosphere, you'll hear that, sonic boom. You know, you'll hear that from fighter jets when they, you know, break the sound barrier. You'll hear a sonic boom. You know, it's very possible that a
Starting point is 00:06:49 meteor can also do that. The reason why the meteors you'll see like the, you know, for example, shooting star, you don't hear that because it never actually breaks sound barrier in our atmosphere because it burns up in our atmosphere. So that burning up in our atmosphere is what you're seeing streaking, but it never actually makes it and breaks it through to where you would actually hear whatever that sound is. So a meteor that does get through, especially the larger the meteor is, exactly, yeah. The, you know, the louder that would be. So NASA actually did come out with the Texas meteor, and I'm just going to go and tell you guys this, and we'll get to this in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:23 They did officially have a statement, I believe this was Thursday. This was yesterday. They came out with a statement and said that this, they did track a meteor that came in through Texas that they did believe made impact. It was a thousand pound meteor they believed at least. Wow. And they do not know where it impacted supposedly, even though there are videos of showing it upon impact is this huge bright light. It almost looks like a nuclear bomb goes off. And this thing over Texas man shook people's houses.
Starting point is 00:07:56 It was, some people described it as deafening how loud this was when they heard it. I mean, this does sound like a potential sound barrier break or whatever. But if this thing did impact it at 1,000 pounds going as fast as it would have been going, yes, there would have been definitely shaken. You would probably see this on a U.S. geology, you know, what do you call those things? I can't remember what the hell they're called. But how they measure earthquakes. Yeah. A seismograph.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah. Is that what it is? I'm just like, yeah. So you would have seen all this, you know, on that. But we got to talk about the UFO thing. And we got to talk about some of the very strange things that have been going on. And there's various facets to this episode that we're going to talk about tonight. And guys, just hang out with us.
Starting point is 00:08:44 If you drink, go get a drink. If you don't, just hang out. Drink water. Drink whatever you're going to drink. But if you're in, like, where is it? I forgot even Ohio. Yeah, don't drink the water. Don't drink the water there.
Starting point is 00:08:58 No, we've been, that's the thing. There's been literally so much craziness going on in this world today that, you know, nothing would surprise us anymore, right? Mm-hmm. Now, let's take this from, let's just start like five years ago, six years ago. We really started having leeway, and we started having some momentum in the topic of UFOs and UAPs. I mean, especially in regards to media coverage and in regards to the government and media at least acknowledging the fact that UFOs could potentially be here.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And when we say UFOs, we mean extraterrestrial crafts, okay? Because UFOs are identified flying objects. UAPs are unidentified aerial phenomena. But we're talking about crafts of not this world. where materials, built with materials of not this world. Yeah. And so this thing has been making, it's been gaining steam over to past, you know, I would say five years. But, you know, there's been so many different, you know, projects in the United States military that has come like Project Blue Book, for example, which was, you know, a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You know, and so this topic of UFOs and UAPs is not, you know, it's not, here's a pun, it's not alien to the guy. government. But no, I mean, it's not something the government hasn't been studying and had programs and special programs designed for to search out and seek answers for, right? This is something the United States government and governments around the world have been trying to figure out for a very long time. And it's just as of recently, five years, six years, seven years down the road that we started to actually be talking about it. The United States government, we found out from Lou Alessando and ATIP, was a program that was designed to research and understand unidentifiable flying objects and then anything surrounding that subject. There was a special program.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Lou Alizando himself has come out and basically said, guys, UFOs are real. Extraterestials from outer space that are not from this earth are real because I was over this program. Lou Alessando was over A-Tip. He was someone that's seen the most classified stuff, and there's a lot of things he probably still cannot say, but the things that he has said will definitely tell you that without question, according to the United States government and what everything he's seen, there's no question that there have been visits from aliens from other planets and other solar systems and whatever, and that we have probably, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:51 We definitely have material from those crafts. Now, Neil deGrasse Tyson come out today, and I'm never, and I'll be honest with you guys. If you know who he is, he's a scientist. He is this guy that likes to go on to podcasts like Joe Rogan and MSNBC and CNN and whatever. He's been everywhere. And he always wants to be the guy that is trying to debunk the theory of UFOs and UAPs, right? This is something he wants to do. Because, you know, his credentials being a big scientist and all, he supposedly also knows all about UFOs and UAPs, which he doesn't, right?
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's not even the field that he studies, I believe. Well, I mean, I don't even know how you really study the field of UFOs and UAPs because you don't know anything about them, really. But you always see this guy making rounds, and especially after the spy balloonist and all of the things we've been seeing in our skies, he's really making rounds right now. And it's almost like he's laughing and laughing at people. that are trying to relate what has been going on in the skies over the United States to actual extraterrestrial aliens from another planet. And so I don't know, I've been thinking about how to gear or at least steer this podcast because there's so many things we need to talk about.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And I've been thinking about like what are the most important things that we need to discuss in relation to, especially considering the fact that probably many people that might be listen to this episode tonight may have never listened to a UFO podcast before. Never a UAP podcast because they're hearing everything in a news. And so they want to know like, okay, well, okay, I was, for once, I was starting to like believe maybe there was UFO's in our sky. And now the government and Neil de Gras Tyson and these scientists are laughing about it, right? So I feel like an idiot now. Well, don't. I think, too, that when these documents started becoming available that we could actually read and they're giving to the public, even though
Starting point is 00:13:53 they were redacted incredibly, that was giving us a sense of, it was almost like the government is giving us a little bit of this and a little bit of that for people to feel like it's okay to believe this now. You know, before these reports came out, if you believed anything about UFOs or anything that was alien-like, you were cray-cra. Like, you were just a crazy person. Like, they took Bob Lazare's credentials away from him. from reporting what he saw and what he did.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, for those of you who Bob Lazar is, Bob Lazar said that he worked at Area S4 or Area 51, which is a sector of Area 51. Bob Lazar was a, you know, he was a propulsionist. He was someone that was an expert not, basically a rocket scientist. You know, you've heard like the jokes. What are you a rocket scientist?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Well, he was, basically. And so there have been many reports of people that did work at Area 51S4 that. that could substantiate his claims that, yes, he was there. Yes, he did work there. They seen them in passing and all of this. And yet, after he started coming out with some of the stuff that he had seen during his time there, which was back, I believe, in the 90s or 80s maybe, you know, he started coming out with these things. And then, but the reason he came out with these things is because on numerous occasions, he, Bob Lazare got caught, taking his friends out to areas of around.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Around Area 51. When he knew that what they were trying to reverse engineer, which was a what they believe, what he believed to be an alien spacecraft that we had had, whether it was downed or whatever, he had taken them outside the outskirts of Area 51. He took his friends. And he said he had done this multiple times until one time he got caught. And when he got caught, because he knew when they were going to be testing these things. Right. And so the one time he got caught, that was pretty much the end for Bob Lazar. And also it made the government or the people at Area 51 really not trust him.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And that's when he knew that he had to come out with a story of what he's seen because for his own protection. Right. Because he thought like, oh, my God, now they know, like I've brought my friends out here. I'm probably going to go tell people and I might end up dead or just disappear. But instead, they made him look like an idiot and took all of his calls. credentials away and said he was full of crap and he was just crazy. And there were people that went to college with him, by the way, and all of that that said, no, I was there with him.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But all the people in this time era that believed in UFOs, everyone looked at him like, are you, are you serious? You really believe in this stuff? Like, this is not real. You, you know, you got to get a sense of reality. This is not true. Where's your head? So with the government a few years ago, starting to come out,
Starting point is 00:16:47 with these undercover reports that we've never seen before, I think it's opened up a lot of conversation for people to say, yeah, I'm not crazy. And, you know, actually, I think I saw one. Because there's a lot of people have seen them, but they're too scared to come out and say they said, saw them, especially people in the Air Force or airline, you know, commercial airlines or anything like that. They were too afraid to report them because it makes them look like they're crazy. Yeah. So now that these government reports are coming out, people are more able to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And I think that they're playing a twist or a swing or a turnaround with this Chinese air balloon. Yeah. Yeah, it could be, could very well be. Now, we'll briefly describe what has been happening. Well, you know, a couple weeks ago, we had a Chinese spy balloon from what they're saying anyway that came in over Alaska, came down through, I guess Canada over Montana, down all the way across the United States, until they finally decided to shoot the Chinese spy balloon down off the South Carolina coast, right off the coast of Myrtle Beach.
Starting point is 00:17:52 They used F-22 Raptors to shoot this balloon down. Initial reports were this massive balloon was over three bus sizes, so huge buses, just take that in consideration. This thing had a payload on it, and explosives, they said that if in the event that it was recognized, I guess is what they were saying, that it could self-destruct itself, right, even though it never did. So that doesn't make a lot of sense either. So they have been trying to recover this object for days, weeks. And, you know, there's been many people. It's been like two weeks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, there's been many people on Myrtle Beach that have been videoing on the coast with these massive boats that are coming in, these basically airboats. And it's the Navy airboats that are huge. Don't, you know, you've seen the airboats like in the Everglades when they got the one big fan on them. They just fly there. Well, these things have huge fans. And they've, I mean, they're massive, right? Yeah, they're humongous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And, um, and they come right. right up to the coast. Like, I didn't know that was possible. Yeah, they come right on the beach. So they've been showing those and then they'll go back out. They'll change crew. They'll get supplies or whatever. And so F-22 shot him down off the coast of Murdo Beach.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And then not far after that. A couple days later, we started seeing objects in the sky again. And the initial reports were that there was an object shot down over Alaska. And I believe that pilot said that this object over Alaska was interfering with his radar or just equilateral. equipment in his aircraft, right? So then we had another object that was over Canada. It was shot down in the Yukon region of Canada, and this object was also shot down.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Pilot reported very similar findings as far as interference with radar jamming and so on and so forth. And keeping in mind, I believe the Yukon region of Canada, you know, this object just appeared out of nowhere, is what they were saying, right? And then also in that, this object, I believe, was a lot lower. It was actually in airspace that, you know, commercial aircraft were flying through. So it was a danger. They shot this thing down. Then we had another object that was also, well, let's say this first. I believe over, I think it was Montana or somewhere, they started having radar anomalies that were popping up and popping up and they could not, they would go out, they would scramble jets, could not find it, could not find it. Well, they then said that this object that was over Lake Heron, which is right in Michigan, basically. They say that this was the object that they shot down
Starting point is 00:20:24 was this object, which they have since said, when they first came out, they were saying, all these objects had no obvious signs of propulsion. We did not know what they were. They said, we're not calling it a balloon for a reason. That's what they said, because it isn't. They they use terms such as a cylindrical or a cylinder. Yeah, even Octagon, which one shape. So they use all these terms. No obvious sign of propulsion. It can interfere with our
Starting point is 00:20:52 radar and our systems. And by the way, F-22s have the most advanced weapons and radar in every system, probably in the world as far as fighter jets go. I mean, that's why you can't just walk up to an F-22 and peek in the cockpit. You can't do that. You know, you're not going to go on a
Starting point is 00:21:08 well, number one, because it's usually single pilot, but, or I think it always is an F-22, but you're not just going to go and get a tour of the cockpit. There's highly sensitive and classified information, or not just information, but technology in the cockpit of the F-22s, which is our most advanced fighter we have. But getting to these balloons,
Starting point is 00:21:27 I think it was very interesting that the balloon that we actually shot down on the coast of South Carolina, it looked like a balloon, right? It was white, like, it tethered down like a balloon. It did have technology on it, But the other things we shot down in Canada and Alaska, they were made of a completely different material.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And they said that they kind of blew up on contact. Yeah, they disintegrated almost. Yeah, it was like a totally different material that it was built on, but they were still saying it was a balloon. Yeah, but then when military officials came out, they were saying it wasn't. And they were saying there's a specific reason why they're not calling a balloon. you know and so so this this is all the terminology they were saying um and and when they were saying this technology it was you know it was it was as if they wanted you believe it was UFO right and then not long after that i believe Biden or or i think it was Biden that actually came out
Starting point is 00:22:26 and was really talking pretty heavily about UFO UAP thing and then you started hearing the government start to pivot and Kim Jong Pierre whatever her name is um the white house Press Secretary came out. She had to do damage control to try to, you know, as usual, to try to like say whatever, like whatever Biden said. To take away what Biden said. This is what it really is. Don't listen to him.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Listen to me. Yeah. Whatever he said, just forget that. So then they started doing damage control. And then now they've got to the point where they're saying all of these things that we've identified over our airspace is civilian. And they're just probably little, you know, science weather balloons. So what you're telling me is we're spending $400,000, which is basically what an aim 99 side one or missile or whatever they use, or aim nine.
Starting point is 00:23:15 To shoot down a $12 balloon. Yeah, which just sounds ridiculous, right? I mean, and if anything, I mean, this is what they're starting to say, right? So if anything, it just makes us sound even more dumb than we should. Like, you're telling me that our most advanced fighters, right, in the world can't decipher whether something is our. random balloon. Our hobbyist balloon. I mean, like, you know, are we going to start having to worry when we have our kids'
Starting point is 00:23:43 birthday parties where we're released balloons? And then we have new, we have J-DAM bunker-busting bombs coming down to our kids. I mean, this is what doesn't make sense, right? I mean, it's, it's funny, but it's not. No, it isn't. And listen, I don't believe their story. I believe they are lying about what they have shot down. And I'm not saying...
Starting point is 00:24:09 For damage control, probably. Yeah, and I'm not saying it was UFOs from another planet. Okay? What I am saying is that it potentially is probably part of some other initiative, either whether it's by China or by Russia or both, that it just doesn't look good for the government to continually be invaded in our airspace by Chinese and Russian technology in any degree or shape or fashion. And so as of today, which is, as we were recording this, Friday, February 17, 2023,
Starting point is 00:24:43 the official lines of communication between China and the United States have been completely shut off. Meaning, you know, it has always been, you know, you don't want to shut down lines of communication with any country, right? That is a bad thing because then you lose. negotiation powers, you lose anything that you could potentially solve on the phone, just by picking up the phone. And, you know, like a great president, like you might think of JFK or, you know, some, some Reagan or whoever that might pick up the phone, especially in an incident in a high-intensity situation that we have had with China and especially with the Russia-Ukraine war, you know, you want to be able to pick up the phone and be like, hey, look, I understand everything. that's going on, all the noise, all the media, everything. But what's going on?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Let's solve this. Whatever. You have to have an open line of communication. Right. And we, for the first time, in a long time, we have zero communication now in China. And so it is, that is, I think, worse than people think it is. Right. And I don't think people understand the gravity of that.
Starting point is 00:25:52 But it was interesting. Biden is like, I still think we're going to have good communication. He has no idea. No, he doesn't. But listen. I think this is the third time in two weeks. Our U.S. fighters have intercepted Russian aircraft off the coast of Alaska. And I think as of late, I think it was yesterday was the last time.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And then two days ago, we also intercepted Russian fighters off the coast of Alaska. We know for a fact that we have had Russia and Chinese submarines off the coast of California. We probably have them off the coast of the United States. We don't know. The Atlantic side. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 The East Coast. Yeah. The Atlantic side. But, and listen, we're getting to the UFO thing. I just want to put everything for you guys into perspective. So there was a new thing that came out. And I want to pivot just a little bit. There was a new thing that came out that Jeremy Corbell posted, right?
Starting point is 00:26:55 And he gained access to a possible UFO that was caught on camera. flying over the Iraqi city of Mazul, or Mazul, in 2016. And it was basically a metallic sphere caught on camera flying over the Iraqi city in Mazul is reportedly being investigated as a UFO by the U.S. military and intelligence community. The image is still taken from a four-second video clip captured on April 16, 2016, by a reconnaissance aircraft in northern Iraq, was shared by UFO researcher Jeremy Corbell and journalist George Knapp on the first episode of our new podcast Weaponized on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:27:33 It is a military filmed image, an intelligence agency filmed image, and it's called the Mazul orb, Corbele said, noting that object was named after the Iraqi city where it was spotted. In the video, the metallic colored sphere seemingly moved alongside the spy plane without dropping an altitude, Corbel said. And this thing does look weird. I mean, it looks like, you know, something that you just never see. before you. If you look up the Mazul orb or Mosul UFO, you'll find
Starting point is 00:28:02 it. You'll see the picture. Does it look anything like the balloons that we've been seeing on TV lately? No, no. No, this thing looks like a cylinder, like a shiny metal metallic object, right? Like a hard surface thing, right? And so
Starting point is 00:28:18 Corbell went on to say this is in the UFO category within our intelligence community. This is an example of one the UFOs that our military and intelligence community is looking at. It's just one of many images, he said. Now, there was another image that was taken that the Pentagon had, and it was a similar image by a U.S. fighter jet that took the image from the cam on his fighter jet, I believe it was decently high altitude, and the picture that you can look at of that object looks very similar
Starting point is 00:28:55 to the Mazul orb. These are metallic, very hard-looking, like metal balls that are, from what I guess the pilots they're saying, they're moving an extremely high rate to speed. Well, to me, that kind of does look like the, not the Chinese spy balloon in South Carolina that they blew up, but it kind of does resemble the one in Canada and in Alaska. Well, we don't know what this looked like, though. Well, by the description they gave us, they said they were. were metallic. They were like metal. They were something that exploded on compact.
Starting point is 00:29:31 On compact? What? Or is that how you say? No. On contact. On contact. Sorry. No, sorry. No, you're good. Contact. But anyway, so we have all these pictures of these orbs. We have all of these things that we are seeing. The military has been seen for a long time. Now, we have to go back at the very least, So we have to go back to when the fighter pilot said that he chased the UFO in 2004. And he said that it committed an act of terror or an act of war. And this was Commander David Fravor. Now, he recalled this extremely strange encounter off San Diego Coast 16 years ago. And he talked about it on Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So he recalled this extremely strange encounter. and he said that he was dispatched to investigate radar anomalies and later described what he saw as like nothing I've ever seen, a Tick-Tac-shaped object, able to turn on a dime and make itself invisible to radar. He was followed by other pilots who managed to catch it on video. And this is the Tick-Tac video. Many of you have probably seen this video. If you haven't, go look for it. But clips are leaked in 2017 by UFO Research Group, founded by POSR Research Group, founded by punk singer Tom DeLong of Blink 182
Starting point is 00:30:50 and formally declassified in 2020 by the Pentagon according to the station. And it's this quote. This is not like we saw it and it was gone or I saw lights in the sky and it's gone. He said we watched this thing on a crystal clear day with four trained observers
Starting point is 00:31:08 Fraber said. He said, I remember telling the guy in my back seat. Dude, I don't not know about you but I'm pretty weirded out, Fraber said. Once he landed, Fravor mentioned the object to another pilot. Chad Underwood, the station reported. Underwood found the UFO aimed at his radar at it and got jammed.
Starting point is 00:31:27 He's telling the radar, stare down the line of sight. Whatever is there, I want you to grab it and build a trace file on it, which will tell you where it is, how fast it is and the direction is going. Fravor told Friedman. The radar is smart enough that when the signal comes back, if it's been messed with, It'll tell you. It will give you indications that it's being jammed. It's being jammed into about every mode you can see.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You can tell us being jammed, he said. When you actively jam another platform, that's technically an active war. He went on to say that this thing appeared and disappeared within seconds. And it wasn't the fact that he was seeing a light that just went off. They could see this thing clear as day. It would appear and then it would absolutely. absolutely 100% disappear. Fravor had this encounter with F-18s,
Starting point is 00:32:20 and F-18s are fighter jets that the U.S. military uses predominantly or did, but they still use F-18 fighter jets, super hornets. And so they had this group of fighter jets out off the coast of California, and they saw this object at first that he said it had to have at least come down from like 80,000 plus feet and probably higher. It was almost like it was entering through space, came down like nothing. I'm talking about like in an instant,
Starting point is 00:32:49 came down, and as it was going down, they witnessed it going down to the ocean floor, or not ocean floor, but the ocean surface. Right. And as they see this thing going down to the ocean, they start seeing this thing, interact with something underneath the ocean, okay? So whatever this thing is doing underneath the ocean,
Starting point is 00:33:10 it's almost like they describe it as a mothership, right? This thing comes, out just to the almost the surface of the ocean. And this thing that just came down from out of nowhere, this object, this tick-tac UFO that they captured on their Fleer system and all that, it is now interacting with this thing right underwater. And he said, you could tell something was underwater. You could almost see it.
Starting point is 00:33:33 You could, the water was just reverberating. And you could see it. It was some kind of, I don't remember exactly how I explained it, but you could see this thing right under water. And so after kind of interacted with it, he said we, we kind of made some, you know, circular patterns where we were trying to kind of wrap around this thing so we could see what was going on. And so we were basically going in like a, like a tornado type, you know, down to the ground, like a pattern. And so we're kind of circling orbiting down, is the word. And as they're orbiting down, he said at one point in time, it's almost like this thing realized that
Starting point is 00:34:11 they were watching, right? And they seen him. And they were, and this thing also realized that it was, that the fighter jets were coming closer to it. And so as this thing realizes, it not detaches, but it quits interacting with whatever is under the ocean. It starts making this way up in the air again. And he said at one point in time, this thing and him were almost opposite sides in this orbit, you know, now I think they were orbiting up, right? Mm-hmm. And then he said it wasn't, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:45 two seconds, this thing disappeared, like, gone. And it wasn't that he just has a cloaking thing. It was the fact that it was probably the speed of light. Exactly. That it used to exit this encounter, right? Right. And this is something they captured. The maneuvers that the pilots captured on their flare system,
Starting point is 00:35:04 which you can see in the TikTok video and some other videos, it was going against the wind it was doing maneuvers that were unlike anything that they had ever seen It's unexplainable and that's why these guys get so excited If they even can get them on their radar Or like zone in on them because they're so fast Yeah and they were freaked out when they did
Starting point is 00:35:27 They finally it was going so fast They're like woo I got them You know that was one of the things Because it's really hard And you can imagine if you see like a flash of light and you're trying to, if you're playing a video game, for example, and you're trying to target this flash of light, it's really hard to do. And this is what they're doing, excuse me, in airplanes.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah, for sure. You know, they're trying to target these things and get a grasp on them so they can follow them. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. And the reason we're kind of touching back on some of these stories is because we're going somewhere with this. And so I want you guys to continue to follow me. Now, outside of Commander David Fraver, we have had to. many other reports, right? We have had U.S. battleships, right, off the coast, that also
Starting point is 00:36:11 seen what they believe to be UFOs potentially, like, I mean, if you look at the Fleer camera that they have from this battleship, it kind of looked like it might have been like a tick-tack-looking thing as well. Right. And I think even this battleship felt threatened by this thing too. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And, well, not necessarily, I don't think this particular video I'm going to talk about probably maybe did yeah I think it was off to coast California but this video showed this UFO this undidentified flying
Starting point is 00:36:41 object more than likely an extraterrestrial craft and it was coming down from the sky and it just went into the ocean it did make a splash they saw the splash on camera and as it was going underneath the ocean they sent out not only a submarine but they sent out
Starting point is 00:36:59 the sea I think they're called sea hawks or sea something anyways the Navy helicopters, which we're going to get to that. Actually, I just connected something just a second ago. Yeah. But they sent out these helicopters, which we'll get to what they are in a minute. They sent out these helicopters off of their carriers that were nearby to search low altitude aerial searches. Underwater.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Underwater for whatever they thought went into the water. And not only that, they had a submarine that was out there searching for wreckage. They thought they were going to find records of whatever this thing that went in found nothing. There was nothing there, zero, but they saw it. There were multiple camera systems that saw it, everything. They saw it go underwater and it disappears underwater, just like it does in the sky. Yeah. So the reason I want to, and the reason I want to connect all of these things and tell you about all these instances is because of the,
Starting point is 00:37:55 what we were tracking a couple of nights ago on flight radar and remember we talked about, off the coast of North and South Carolina and Florida and California. I want to put into perspective what was going on off the coast that the military was doing, that we did create a Twitter thread on, which you guys should go check it out. We're going to break that down here in just a minute. And we're also going to talk about how that could potentially connect to what that battleship did to go out and look for this underwater craft that they saw go into the water. These are all the things we're trying to connect.
Starting point is 00:38:32 But anyways, so besides David Fravor, we had former Navy pilot Ryan Graves. He gave a detailed description of what regular encounters that flight teams had with black box UFOs that they were seeing every day. He was on the Joe Rogan experience recently. He spoke about what a pilot who saw the undenified object saw. So he highlighted his credentials and his history with the Navy, saying he studied mechanical and aerospace engineering. After graduating from college, he went on to fly F-18 jets for the Navy. He said that multiple pilots repeatedly witnessed a strange UFO phenomenon on their equipment, as well as with their own eyes.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Starting in 2013, he said the pilots were seeing these objects by eye and also on the radar after receiving upgrades to their aircraft. The objects were always up there every day as they conducted training exercises. And in June, NASA announced that it was commissioning a study team to examine what it called observations of events, in the sky that cannot be identified as aircraft or known natural phenomena from a scientific perspective starting in the fall. And a report is expected in the spring of 2023, which is very soon. So on Rogan's podcast, Rogan asked Graves, you guys go from not having any idea that these
Starting point is 00:39:51 things are out there to an upgraded radar system to see in them every day. What is the thought? How are you feeling? Is there any evolution of the thought pattern? of how you are addressing these things. And he said initially, you were thinking that they are radar errors. When do you start getting a thought of what is happening? Sorry, that was Rogan that said that. But Graves replied that question arose about what the UFOs were after a pilot first saw one of them. They said, there were two aircrafts from my squadron.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And they took off in a flight of two, he said. They are essentially flying in a formation like one diagonally in front of the other. other. As they hit the area, one of the objects went right in between the aircraft. He continued to say the lead pilot saw the object. The second pilot did not, which is not surprised him because you're usually very focused on the flying formation. But the lead really has leeway to look around. He saw it and he immediately came back. Detailing what the pilot saw, Graves said, he came back and said, hey, I almost hit one of those damn things. We all knew what he was referring to as even though we did not necessarily have a name for them, just because we were seeing them so much. He described it. He said
Starting point is 00:41:03 it was a black or dark gray cube, and that cube was inside of a clear, translucent sphere. Essentially, the corners of the apex of the cube, as best as he could tell, were touching the inside of that sphere. So Graves admitted that the mysteries surrounding the UFOs did not mean that aliens or something supernatural were involved, but the high probability answer was that this was some type of classified program, of our own making, or that had, that had a lot of, had started to operate in an area they were not supposed to or for whatever reason, Grave said. But he continued to say that this was kind of our assumption.
Starting point is 00:41:36 We submitted a safety report because of the near mid-air collision, a Hazreep or Hazer Support. This essentially a notice that goes out to the whole fleet that says it is a potential hazard that can cause a loss of aircraft. He went on to say, though, that they later on witnessed some of the craft going from, you know, standstill speeds to hypersonic or disappearing. So, you know, they didn't at the time think anything. Well, they did think something, but they thought that, hey, we don't know why we're not being told that this is our exercise zone, that these things are operating or near us.
Starting point is 00:42:14 But what they were seeing were very similar to what Commander Dave Fravers saw and so on. But what's interesting to me in this report, what he's saying is they have a cube-like fixture or thing inside a sphere thing, right? A cube inside of a sphere where the corners are touching. To me, I've heard that before and I've thought about that. And that's almost why I feel like that's why we see things changing shapes in the sky. It's because you see like it's like a three or four dimensional thing that we're seeing in the sky, right? You see this cube inside of this sphere.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And to me, I'm picturing. this sphere is kind of like translucent. Yes, it's like a clear glass box almost. Right, and the cube is inside more solid looking black. And then all of a sudden it changes shapes. And that's why I kind of get why people see different shapes of these flying things that we don't know what they are. And I don't think they're made. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And so that goes to say, let's talk about a few things here. We've got these UFOs that multiple military pilots. And by the way, there's a Pentagon report that came out, right? And in that Pentagon report, it distinctly says in a declassified, unredacted portion of the report that says that we have material that is not of this earth. Yeah. Okay? And this is from a craft, actually.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I believe they specifically use the term craft. We have material from a craft, not from this earth. That is what a Pentagon report says. And every time I hear about these materials not from this earth, there are materials that are metallic-like, but they're very thin, light materials. Yeah. And that, well, I'm not going to get us off top.
Starting point is 00:44:19 But I'm just thinking about these balloons we saw in Alaska and Canada that have the same type materials. So, you know, I get how some people think it could be not just an airplane. Yeah. Well, I mean, Nildegreis Tyson, which I was wanting to play, I might still do it. I think we need to. I want to play Nildegreis Tyson. What he has been talking about this UFO theory.
Starting point is 00:44:48 He roast the UFO theory, okay? And I would actually love to have him on just to discuss some of the, these things, especially, I mean, I think his main thing is like physics or something. I'm not exactly sure, but I want you guys to hear it. I mean, I know this is, I just want you guys to hear it if you haven't heard it. I think he just did this like two days ago. But I think for many of you, you're going to see how they try to downplay, like just the potential intelligence of what UFOs in any extraterrestrial life that could be visiting this planet would have. But he also, but he also speaks about that, but yet he's also trying to connect these balloons with our thinking as far as UFOs.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And that's why I'm saying. I think this topic is somewhat being hijacked. So let's play this. Hopefully there's no ad on this, but let's see. We're at a very mainstream discussion of extra stress to your life because of the objects that are just technically unidentified who have been shot down by the U.S. military. Neil deGrasse Tyson is my special guest. Let's start with finishing up some business from before the last block. It is actually you as a human.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Yes. I cannot reach past. You just use that as a excuse to squeeze my bicep. For anyone who thought that the hologram joke was serious. But we do have the actual White House of the United States engaging with this question. When you hear people say, because they're shooting things out of the sky, could they possibly be alien life, you say? I would say if it remains unidentified, there's a chance of. it could be. However, just think it through. If aliens cross the galaxy in whatever is their spaceship
Starting point is 00:46:30 and arrived at Earth, just to throw some balloons across North America, I'm thinking, really? Really? And even if the aliens did do that, are those the aliens you want to meet? They cannot be interesting aliens. The best they've got are some floaties, cylindrical and octagonal floaties that any F-22 fighter jet can just knock out of the sky. All right. So we're going to do this. We're going to do the alien thing on the news, okay? I love aliens.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Okay. Nobody doesn't love to aliens. That answer is very persuasive, and there is no public evidence here leading towards extra stress your life. Correct. But the counterpoint of that answer would be that a very sophisticated foreign entity, not of this world or this neighborhood, might be doing things that we don't fully understand or might send out, send out their little thing to test, and it's not the full
Starting point is 00:47:25 spacecraft. Okay, I'm sorry, but that's the question. So, all I'm saying is, if you, an alien that can cross the galaxy, we are, we're worms to them, okay? I mean, just, just think to yourself what this is. Oh, we're going to put this in there. We think it's going to work, and we hope they don't shoot it down with their jets. I just give aliens more credit.
Starting point is 00:47:54 You're saying, because when you're... You know another one? People say, oh, the aliens is a crashed landing site over here. Really? Once again, the aliens crossed the galaxy and crashed? So you're making a point that is scientific in nature, which is you're reminding everyone that if they got here beyond what we can see, then they probably traveled light years.
Starting point is 00:48:11 They would be some different level. A whole other level than sticking floaties in our atmosphere. That's all. Plus, we have crowdsourced any possible alien invasion. on this earth because there's six billion smartphones in the world and everybody can take a high resolution still frame or video camera we have a million people at any moment who are airborne can look out their windows so that then goes to something we've talked about so i'm just saying i'm yeah no i need better evidence than just we don't know what it is therefore it's alien well this goes
Starting point is 00:48:42 to something that you're so good at which is you're talking about the empirical and it's epistemological nature of this era that unlike, say, a thousand years ago where you couldn't get from continent to continent, you didn't have real-time information, you're saying there's more evidence than ever that currently does not support intelligent life. You can live stream anything your camera sees. Because in the old days, oh, what happened to the camera? Or the aliens zapped it so it didn't work. You can live, thanks to ACLU and police conduct.
Starting point is 00:49:15 We can live stream whatever is in front of us, all right? And so in doing so, if an alien walked towards you, that would be viral. Look, cat videos go viral. If I have a high-resolution image of an alien walking out of a spaceship, let's go. You'd be the, or the janitor at Area 51? Yeah. Get a shot.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah, he'd lose his job the next day, but it'd be the wealthiest, most famous janitor there ever was. So are you more convinced now than before that there's not current alien life out there? That's a perfect way to say it. I would say our capacity to detect alien life with the crowdsourcing of eyes on Earth tells me that is less convincing than ever before. All right. So that was Neil de Grice Tyson. And I just have to say this guy was really funny. He is funny.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Very funny. I was cracking up listening to that. Now listen. He has a lot of good points. So I'm about to have a lot of good points as well. And the reason I wanted to play this for you guys, because I'm sure there are so many of you that are listening right now that would love to be able to just interject in what I'm about to say,
Starting point is 00:50:25 because you might be able to maybe even say it better, right? Of how you're going to break apart what he said. And I'll tell you this. He is a, I believe, astrophysicist, right? This guy is a very smart guy in his field, in his field, right? So if you start thinking about people that are very smart in a specific field, well, for example, you could have went to the doctor in 2021 and 2022. And you could have had a certain sickness that we know about the past three years. Just think about this for a minute.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Right. You could have had a certain sickness that we've known about for three years. And they could have said to you that, hey, we know you have this. right? And what we're going to do to treat you is absolutely nothing, right? Because that's what science is telling us right now. Science is telling us nothing. Science is instead telling us to take this thing that we have zero evidence on whatsoever, but science says that is right. So we're going to do it. And all of these scientists came together to agree with this shit, right? Well, you can have someone extremely smart in a particular field. And you can have them be also dumb in a lot of other ways. Have we ever heard of the concept of street smarts versus book smarts? Well, let's just take this into consideration. He's talking about, this is when I talked about the government is almost trying to hijack these balloon-type situations
Starting point is 00:52:05 and also trying to deter and defect the narrative of UFOs and UAPs. and especially considering how much information and how much information is actually coming out from military pilots and military battleships and our most advanced technology we do have. So to the rebuttal of this, no, I don't believe. I mean, you could maybe make the argument, right, that UFOs would send down something all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:52:36 For us to shoot down. No, just to see what our response would be in our airspace without moving at light speed. Like, let's just throw them out, which I doubt that's the case, right? But I don't think this would be like their true UFOs. Maybe they're setting out something
Starting point is 00:52:50 like a drone that they have or something. Well, yeah. Well, I mean, I think... I don't know. But what I'm saying is, yeah, I mean, what Commander David Fraver described or even probably Ryan Graves described, you're not shooting them down. Yeah, you can't even get them on radar.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Yeah, the fact they even locked it on their Fleer system, like Commander Fraver. Yeah. I would have loved to have seen what would have happened if they would have tried to shoot this thing. It would have not worked probably. I guarantee you the way that Commander Dave Fravor
Starting point is 00:53:20 in that entire unit along, not just them, but multiple other military accounts have described these UFOs over the past years. And we're not just talking about now. We've seen these things in the 60s. You can't sit here and say that, oh, well, all of this technology is foreign adversaries. It's China that's got all this new technology
Starting point is 00:53:39 and all this stuff. And we're starting to see these things. We were seeing these things in the 40s and the 50s. We were seeing these things we believe in our ancient times. Yeah. Which, by the way, guys, we have an interview coming up. And I want to bring this up for a minute. But we do have an interview coming up with Robert Schock.
Starting point is 00:53:55 He's one of the greatest minds as far as ancient civilization. Ancient civilization and all that. He's got amazing books. He's been on Joe Rogan. We're going to fly to Boston in about a month from now, actually. I think it's exactly one month. flying to Boston, interview him. Hopefully we can get some video and do some other things
Starting point is 00:54:14 and maybe even potentially get out to Egypt with them. In June. And stay tuned to what we might be able to plan because we had thought about an idea potentially to do something with our listeners as well. But this is something I would want to talk to Robert about. And I'm going to put on the list of questions I want to talk to Robert about, especially as far as ancient civilists.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Now, Robert is a guy that's like, hey, I want to know exactly the time frame of our ancient civilization and how many civilizations that we had and the pyramids and all that. But we know that we have had cave drawings and all of this stuff
Starting point is 00:54:53 in the middle of the desert that had things that looked like UFOs. But getting back to this guy's point, his point was... I was getting to that point. I'm sorry. No, I'm just trying to explain. What I'm trying to say is that we've seen this
Starting point is 00:55:09 technology for years. I mean, potentially thousands of years, right? And so this is not something new. I mean, the Aztecs and all of these people believed in UFOs. They depicted UFOs and spacecraft for hundreds of years ago, if not thousands of years ago. There are paintings or there are things in the biblical times that talk about UFOs or similar things. But even back in the 40s and 50s and 60s, right? There were objects and this is before we had technology to be able to even try to figure out what these things are that appeared to be extremely advanced technology. And this is not just new. This is just, yes, we are finally maybe getting technology to catch up with the fact that, hey, we have something in our atmosphere, in our world that we have no idea what it is.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Plus, I think it's being able to say it's okay to talk about this. And if you talk about that, it doesn't mean you're a conspiracy theorist or a crazy person, but this is something that is true. This is fact. This is not an opinion anymore. These are facts. And we know this from the government. Yeah. Well, let's talk about something.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And guys, I wanted to get to this before we get off here. Part of me wanted to talk about, and I think we still need to talk about, I have to talk about this first. First, two days ago, I was monitoring flight radar. And on flight radar, a couple days ago, this was after all of the hoopla and all of the craziness about what was going on with these objects that we were shooting down all over the United States. I mean, there's so much stuff going on in the United States right now. I mean, there's so much going on around the world, but we're talking about trained
Starting point is 00:57:04 drums. We're talking about chemical plants burning down. We're talking about chickens not laying. down laying eggs anymore. There's so much craziness going on. But being from an aviation, as long as I have working around it, marketing, so many things, flight school, whatever, I do monitor flight radar quite often. And flight radar is basically there are tracking systems in aircraft called ADSB that you
Starting point is 00:57:35 can download apps such as flight radar. 24 or some of these other ones, and you can look at the current aircraft in the sky. And a lot of times you can't necessarily see military, but you can also at sometimes see military. It depends on the congestion of the area where they're operating in, because that is just strictly a safety thing that they have to do with towers and ATC and FAA regulations as far as, you know, look, if you have a massive military operation going on in a certain area, ADSB is helpful. Now, if they're going over to bomb Russia, for example, the United States. Yeah, they're not going to have their ADSB or tracking device on for Russia to see where they're going or what exactly they're doing.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I wouldn't assume, obviously. But during this, this was the same night the meteorite came down into Texas, right? And I started seeing things. You know, I was tracking aircraft, military aircraft off the coast of North and South in Florida, North South Carolina, Florida, off the coast of of California. And it was around 6 p.m. Easter standard time. I checked flight rider off the coast as we do often. And I noticed a multitude of military aircraft off the coast of north and South Carolina, Florida. And it was not typically normal.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Now, the past few months, I've been seeing a lot of military activity off the coast of the East Coast, off the West Coast. Just a lot of strange activity. We saw aircraft that were clustered together. We saw fighters that were side by side. You could tell there were fighters, although they did not say there were a specific fighter jet, but when they're flying at 450 knots or whatever, and they're within 50 feet and altitude of each other, you know that's a fighter. Then typically you'll see a picture of two others.
Starting point is 00:59:24 We actually saw two other jets that were taken off from various bases in South and North Carolina. These were also fighter jets. There were a multitude of C-130, which are cargo aircraft. but they also have a variation of the C-130 that has sonar devices that can track underwater craft, typically submarines, but these are C-130s that have these canisters that come out from under this aircraft and they drop them in the water and they track whatever is around them through sonar.
Starting point is 00:59:56 So we started seeing all this. And then I started seeing the P.8 Poseidon, which the P.A. Poseidon is the Navy's most advanced underwater tracking aircraft. and this thing has the latest and greatest technology as far as underwater craft tracking. They also shoot out canisters. They're just a little more advanced. They have more canisters to shoot out and their systems on board are more advanced than, say, the C-130s, right? But they still have the same systems, but probably heavily upgraded systems than what the C-130s had or even the helicopters that also do this as well.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I started seeing P.A. Poseidon's coming as far away from New Hampshire, Oklahoma, all of these places. off the coast of North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia. Then I started looking at off the west coast of California. And keeping in mind, this was kind of after we were starting to see
Starting point is 01:00:48 and hear about these things being shot down off, you know, over our national area. Canada and Alaska. Yeah, wherever. This was two days ago. So we also started to see, during all of this,
Starting point is 01:01:03 we started seeing off the coast of Florida, we saw these helicopters. And we saw multiple helicopters. I mean, these were helicopters that were U.S. navies. There were sea dragons. There were another type of aircraft. It's basically like a Black Hawk, but they're outfitted to search for underwater craft as well.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And they have sonar devices or canisters that they can launch off these helicopters. But the difference is not only can they do that, but they can fly very low and slow, which is a very key advantage to these choppers from the Navy. Like what, 10,000 feet, 11,000 feet? No, no, no, like 2,000 feet. Oh, that low. Some of them can fly it.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Like, I saw one that night was flying at 300 feet. Wow. Above the ocean. And they were just flying circular patterns. And so, and then when you've seen the, um, the PA Poseidon come down, which was the, the big daddy as far as like, no one was underwater. Right. It came down.
Starting point is 01:02:03 It was coming down to Florida. from, I think this one was coming down from like New Jersey or Philadelphia or somewhere. And it was coming down. I tracked this thing forever. And I told you, I was like, I think this thing is going down to Florida. Yeah, you're like, just watch. There was so much activity around Florida. They were searching for something off the coast.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And it came down. And as it almost got to Florida, it started going backwards on the radar thing. And I knew that something was up with that. I knew that it turned off this ADSB, which is interesting. So then I couldn't really track it anymore. Then at one point in time, it came up for, just a brief like two or three minutes and I saw it was like at 8,000 feet and it was doing graph it was doing like graph pattern like a back and forth like a horizontal pattern and it was
Starting point is 01:02:47 going you know two miles two miles two miles two miles two miles and it was probably dropping down and yeah yeah and it was dropping these canisters throughout right and this is going to show whatever's underwater and so those helicopters I was just telling you about which were basically Blackhawks that were outfitted to be underwater surveillance helicopters, right, that have these cannerses as well and their U.S. Navy. These helicopters, these exact helicopters, were the helicopters
Starting point is 01:03:20 that were flying off the West Coast when this UFO, this UAP or whatever, came down from the sky, wherever it came from and entered the water, made a splash, and just went down like it was nothing, right? And so these exact helicopters were dispatched there as well, because they have those things.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Most of these helicopters are choppers that, I guess, are on aircraft carriers. You'll see these on aircraft carriers a lot. So they are based inland, but they're also based on aircraft carriers. But we saw the same thing, right? And if you would have been able to look at the radar data that day, it would have probably looked very similar to what was happening two nights ago. And so NORAD did release some training thing off the coast of North Carolina for, it was like six hours before this happened, just off the coast of North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:04:21 But everything else really was completely different. So then we also... So then we also saw refueler aircraft coming down, right? and there were refueler aircraft coming from all over, Oklahoma, wherever. They were coming down and they were providing air refueler support for all these aircraft off the coast, off the East Coast. So then we're tracking all this stuff, and we're seeing this off the West Coast as well, okay? And we're seeing off the coast of Alaska. And we're even seeing aircraft that are turboprop aircraft coming from Louisiana to the East Coast to assist with us.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And then if you look at those turboprop aircraft, which is basically an aircraft that have two propellers, right? And it's, you know, they're coming from Louisiana and they're coming to the East Coast. And so I wasn't actually very familiar with these. I know what the civilian version of these aircraft are, which is called King Airs, right? And I can't remember what they call them in the Navy or whatever. But they are also outfitted for underwater surveillance, right? And so they do very similar operations, such as the P.A. Poseidon does, such as those helicopters we were talking about. They have canters that launches out of those as well. So they had massive, massive air dominance over our coast that night. And this was the entire military. This is not just one military. It was everywhere. Marines, Navy. It was everything.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Coast Guard was involved. Every. Everybody, yeah. Every facet of the military. Yeah. And so, so then. We see this, we hear about this mission Texas asteroid. This freaking thing. While we're watching this on a flight aware or whatever it was. All this stuff we're watching, right? For three, four hours. And I'm telling Sherry, something's going on.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And we've been saying this really for the past three or four weeks because we've been seeing this stuff happening. There's something they're trying to track off the coast. I don't know what it is. We've been seeing this. And then this night in particular was extremely. Congested with military. It was nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:29 So then the meteorite happens in Texas. And I start seeing this and I'm like, what in the hell? And so obviously what I'm going to do is I'm going to start looking at flight radar and I'm going to see, well, let's see what's happening. So we posted on here and we said, look, there's a meteor over Texas. It has exploded over Texas somewhere. And this is what the information we're getting. And there were people that were commenting and saying there was a fire in the valley, which is the valley is considered, I guess, near Mission, Texas, Mercedes, Texas, that whole area is the very southern tip of Texas. And there were
Starting point is 01:07:03 people saying there were fires from people that live there, there was fires in, I guess, the desert area of this area. Yeah, and I saw the videos of this big explosion that we're talking about at the beginning of the podcast. Yeah. It was huge. Yeah, it was massive. I mean, you know, there were multiple videos of whatever this thing was, if it was a meteor, great, that came in And it was streaking across the skies. A lot of people said it was blue lights. Yeah, that was interesting. I was going to say that.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Wonder why they saw the blue lights in the beginning. Might have been the atmosphere that was making the color change. Who knows? If this is a meteor, fine. But there's a lot of weirdness going on in our skies, right? I mean, that's one thing we have to understand. So the very interesting thing about this was, though, is, okay, that's a meteor. Cool.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I mean, if you want to say it's a meteor, fine. Let's say it's a meteor. Great. So they first said it made impact with the ground. Then the local news, the sheriff and local news and some of the other stations that picked this up said, no, there's nothing hit the ground. Nothing hit the ground whatsoever. And then NASA came out and reports said, yeah, it did hit the ground. And then other people was like, well, it may hit the ground, but we don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:12 There was a couple reports that said there was a fire in the desert, which I saw that night. And then I looked the next morning, there was all of a sudden no fire in the desert, right? But here's the very interesting thing, guys. when this thing come into Texas I started looking at flight radar you know I mean it's just kind of retarded or not sorry sorry that's a bad word
Starting point is 01:08:33 not retarded that's a bad word it is kind of it's just kind of ignorant dumb like whatever I don't know shit now I'm making it worse all right I'm going to have to add to this I'm really going to have to add it this it was just like
Starting point is 01:08:50 oh my God it was just retarded No, it wasn't. I'm going to have to edit this. Okay, hold on. We're going to pause. Okay, here we got to. Don't laugh.
Starting point is 01:09:03 But anyway, so then I started seeing these aircraft coming down from Texas, and, you know, they were coming from, like, Oklahoma and all these other different states in the country, and they were coming through Texas. And I reported this on Twitter, and I put it a part of my thread, and I said, look, we got aircraft now coming down through Texas there were multiple KC-135 refueling aircraft that were coming down from like the Oklahoma area
Starting point is 01:09:32 and north So these are military jets going to Texas? Well these are KC-1305s are huge airplanes that are basically just big tankers they are there to refuel fighter jets or any other aircraft that is involved in military operations right? Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:09:49 So we saw this during the time of the spy balloon, for example. When the fighters were up circling this thing, circling this thing, circling this thing, you would have these KC-135s that would be up in the air and they would basically do these large circles and they would just wait for the fighters.
Starting point is 01:10:05 For the other jets to come and refuel and circle it and follow it. Yeah, because fighter jets cannot stay in the air that long, you know, because they got extremely high power in those engines. They drink a ton of fuel. And so they have to break off, you know, pretty irregularly, and then they have to go refuel,
Starting point is 01:10:25 and then I'll go back to the target area. Yeah. Yeah. So anytime you see a KC-135 aircraft, you know there are fighter jets probably in the vicinity, right? I mean, and especially when you see these things circling, they're there to refuel fighters, right? So if this thing's just a meteor over Texas, right, why do you have not only one... Military presence. No, but not only one, you have...
Starting point is 01:10:51 There was someone who reported to me, I had saw two or three, right, of these massive tanker aircraft. Now, during this entire Chinese spy balloon incident, during all these other instances where we shot down these undenified things that we were seeing over Michigan and Canada and all this, you would see one tanker, right? I mean, just think about this. You would see one tanker that was flying in a circular pattern, and they would be flying in this pattern. and that one tanker could probably refuel, I don't know exactly, but probably three, four, five, or six jets and maybe multiple times?
Starting point is 01:11:26 Well, I know that friends that saw in the sky when they were going above it was at least 11. Yeah, well, I mean, who knows? Yeah. But yeah, I mean, so it can refuel a lot of jets and it can probably do it multiple times, right? And you would only usually see one or two
Starting point is 01:11:40 at the most during all of this spy balloon unidentified object thing. But in the Texas situation, you had one, two, and three. I saw these three, right? And then someone in common and said, hey, you need to look up a little further north because there are two more right behind it.
Starting point is 01:11:57 These are five refuelers. Wow. Coming to the area of Mission, Texas, during this meteor, right? So then also we saw a spy aircraft, which is known as a command center aircraft. You might have seen them. They are huge planes.
Starting point is 01:12:18 They have these massive domes on top of them, which is like radar domes. And these aircrafts are used for command centers in the sky. If you've got a massive operation going on for whatever reason, you've got a lot of aircraft involved. These aircraft are, they fly really high, and they are basically command and control of the entire operation. They are trying to coordinate with the tankers, the fighter jets, to everybody. like, hey, this is what we're doing, blah, blah. And so they're pretty much like air traffic controllers at an airport, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:12:51 So we saw this plane in Texas, near Mission, Texas, also doing circles just up there hanging out. And so at the same time, also, we saw the doomsday plane. Okay? Now, for those of you don't know. And what is that? So for those of you do not know what the doomsday plane is, it is a very rare plane you spot anywhere, right? You spot this plane very rarely, especially on flight radar. But the Doomsley plane is the United States government's 747 basically, which is one of the biggest airplanes in the air.
Starting point is 01:13:20 It's actually been retired commercially. It still flies cargo. It's typically a three-decker aircraft. It is a Bowen aircraft. And they retired this commercially. And it's been known as the Queen of the Sky. It's huge. It's massive.
Starting point is 01:13:34 This is a plane that flies over our house taking cars to Germany or wherever. Daily. Massive. And I think I've been on one of those planes because I remember when I'm as little, it had like an upstairs and a bar upstairs. I'm not sure. Is that the kind of airplane you're talking about? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I don't know. But this 747 is massive. And so the United States government has what is called the doomsday plane. And what this plane is able to do, this plane is outfitted with special countermeasures for nuclear disasters or nuclear wars. It also can withstand some aspects of EMP attacks, which is electromagnetic pulse attacks. and typically on this doomsday plane, they always have some kind of official, some, what they call designated survivor, that in the event that a nuclear war happens in the United States, that it takes out the president or the cabinet or everybody that's involved in the government, there will be this airplane flying and they will have a designated survivor on this aircraft and pretty much a little government inside this airplane to be able to carry on the United States. States mission control and and coordinating any military or justice.
Starting point is 01:14:49 That's what we saw in the sky over Texas. Okay, but I wonder why would that plane be over Texas where all this stuff is going on? We don't know. You would think they would want to take them far away. No, no. It doesn't matter about that. We know that we saw this plane, and it was northern Texas too, right, where this plane was. It wasn't near the southern part of Texas, the mission, but we did see this over northern
Starting point is 01:15:10 in Texas. We did see fighters over Texas. But the very strange thing is, is that part of me don't know exactly what to label this podcast, because there's a lot of crazy stuff going on. And I think there is a lot going on that we don't know about, right? China just recently said that they have had UFOs in their airspace, right? Whether or not they're trying to blame it, you know, on the United States or whatever we don't know, right? But we have to ignore the noise, guys of like what the what the what the what the what the media and the politics and the government i mean especially when we're talking about UFOs we know i believe that just based on military reports from you know real military officers and and and people on on the ships and and fighter jet pilots
Starting point is 01:16:00 and all of this the technology they have seen is and many of them said look we have never seen this technology. There's no way this technology exist that anyone could create on this earth. That's what Commander David Fravor said. That's what many people said. The fact that they can go from zero to gone
Starting point is 01:16:22 in no time, even if it is a drone, just the technology to be able to do that. Now, we do have hypersonic missiles. There was someone on Twitter saying, oh, well, this is probably some type of hypersonic missile. Well, we know Russia has hypersonic missiles, which is Mach 5 plus.
Starting point is 01:16:39 And by the way, it is an extremely dangerous weapon. Hypersonic technology, as far as weaponry, is extremely dangerous. And we know that, you know, that, for example, Russia and China may have hypersonic technology. And we know that the United States has them, but very, from what we understand, it's actually not as advanced as Russia and China, which is kind of scary. But hypersonic technology, yes, it can get hypersonic. and yes, it can turn pretty rapidly as far as if they launch a nuclear warhead
Starting point is 01:17:13 on a hypersonic missile, it can turn rapidly. But the characteristics that you see from these crafts, you know, off the coast of California, Commander David Fravor, where it goes from zero to gone in light speed-type speeds,
Starting point is 01:17:29 this is not hypersonic technology. Hypersonic can get up to speed at hypersonic, right? And it can maneuver and turn, but you do not have zero to nothing. Yeah. Not to the extent of what we're seeing. No, you do not have that. So maybe we're trying to mimic what we see,
Starting point is 01:17:47 but we're like, you know, a millimeter of five inches. Yeah. Or eight inches. Yeah, I mean, well, the thing is, look, we have to understand. There's a lot. There's a whole lot to all of this. I just believe the government is trying to hijack. the conversation. I believe they're trying to hijack it, minimize it. And I think they're
Starting point is 01:18:12 kind of coming off the backs of the UFO and UAP community and just and what everybody's been working on, which is disclosure of what's actually going on. And we think about why are they trying to hijack this? And my why is I think it's all about distraction. They're trying to distract us from other things. Yeah. They're trying to distract us from other things. Yeah. They're trying to distract us from the truth of what's going on. If we can put the people's minds in this area, then we can get away with this area. For example, you know, the train derailment in Ohio, and there was another train or whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:51 You know, there's so many things going on that they don't want us to comment about or think about or even have on the news. Yeah. All right. So the last thing we're going to talk about on this UFO, UAP topic. for this episode has to be CERN. So of all the strange claims that have made about CERN, the idea that particle physicists
Starting point is 01:19:12 in Geneva, Switzerland have actually opened a portal into another world is perhaps the most compelling one. Is there any evidence that this has happened, that they've opened a portal, caused a tear in time and space,
Starting point is 01:19:23 or even unlocked a gateway to another place? So a quick history on CERN and the Large Hadron Collider. So the Large Hadron Collider at the European Organization for Nuclear Research in Geneva, Switzerland, which is also known as CERN, opened in 2008 with the first beam circulated on September 10th of that year. The goal of any collider is to accelerate particles at incredible speeds, smashing them together and then detecting the results of those collisions. And so what scientists hope to find by doing so are new particles or reactions, new information
Starting point is 01:19:54 on how the universe works at a fundamental level. So the first true collision happened in 2010, when the Large Hadron Collider first began operation. It reached a combined, energy level of seven terra electrovolts or TEVs. It's been upgraded over the years, most recently reached 13 TEV reporting the present world record. So the greatest achievement of the LHC or the Large Hadron Collider so far is undoubtedly the discovery of the Higgs bosom. And so as CERN themselves reported on July 4th, 2012, the ATLAS and CMS experiments at
Starting point is 01:20:31 CERN's large Hadron Collider announced that they each observed a new particle in the mass region around 125 GEV. So the particle was consistent with the Higgs-Boson. And in 2013, Francis, François, Englert, and Peter Higgs received the Nobel Prize in physics for discovery. In 2012, Fermilab posted a good overview of the nature of the Higgs bosom and Higgs-Filled. However, aside from the scientific breakthroughs at CERN, many believe that, you know, there's more foot there than simply forays into particle physics. Some believe they're busy at work
Starting point is 01:21:08 attempting to or accidentally open portals. So when we talk about UFOs and UAPs, one of the things we have to mention, obviously, is that a lot of experts or a lot of people that actually had access to classified documents or that was involved in specialized programs specifically set up for UAPs and UFOs, such as ATIP and other government programs. And, you know, even Tom DeLong, which was with Blink 182, he has an organization that he heavily researches and documents various, I guess, accounts from governmental members that he is come in contact with, so on and so forth. We do know in a lot of these actual reports from the government that in some places in these documents, it actually mentions the possibility
Starting point is 01:21:52 that these aliens are not necessarily the physical form that we think of as physical, which is three-dimensional. And we're going to talk about that in a second from CERNs. on the website. But a three-dimensional thing is what we see every day, right? So you have, you know, I'm looking at you, Sherry, and we can see this computer and we can see the chair. You know, that's all three-dimensional. We live in a three-dimensional world. And so what some of these government programs are talking about is that they believe some of these UFOs or UAPs may be a product of interdimensional travel or at least being able to warp time or use some of the type of portal. There's a lot of stuff we don't understand. So when you have scientists that sit
Starting point is 01:22:38 here and talk about, look, if an alien flies across the universe, and first of all, look how fast they're going to have to fly and all this stuff, we also just don't understand how maybe you can travel the universe, and we also don't understand anything beyond our comprehension of a three-dimensional world. Now, on CERN's own website, and this is very important to point out, this is on their own website. This is what they say about some of the stuff they do. And I want to read it. It's brief, but you have to hear it from their own lips. This says, why is gravity so much weaker than other fundamental forces? A small fridge magnet is enough to create an electromagnetic force greater than a gravitational pull exerted by planet Earth. One possibility is that we don't feel the full
Starting point is 01:23:19 effect of gravity because part of it spreads to extra dimensions. Though it may sound like science fiction, if extra dimensions exist, they could explain why the universe is expanding faster than expected, and why gravity is weaker than the other forces of nature. So this is a question of scale, they say. In our everyday lives, we experience three spatial dimensions. Okay, this is what we were just talking about. And a fourth dimension of time. So the very next dimension past what we see is time. And time is also very confusing. It isn't for us because we look at a clock and it's like, is 12 o'clock, and we got 12 hours until 12 o'clock. Or, you know, a day from now is 24 hours, 48 hours is two days. This is how we compute time in our brain. But what is time and how does it
Starting point is 01:24:03 really affect our lives, or how does it affect space and time? And so Einstein's general theory of relativity tells us that space can expand, contract, and bend. Now, if one dimension were to contract to a size smaller than an atom, it would be hidden from our view. Okay? So, and by the way, most everything we kind of see and look at and whatever in our lives are made of atoms. So, but if we could look on a small enough scale, that hidden dimension might become visible again. So imagine a person walking on a tightrope. She can only move backwards and forwards, but not left and right, okay, nor up and down. So she can only see one dimension, but ants living on a much smaller scale could move around the cable in what would appear like an extra dimension to the
Starting point is 01:24:51 tightrope walker. So how could we test for this extra dimension? One option would be to find evidence of particles that can exist only if extra dimensions are real. Theories that suggest extra dimensions predict that in the same way as atoms have a low energy ground state and excited energy high state, there would be heavier versions of standard particles in other dimensions. These heavier versions of particles called Kaluza Klein states would have exactly the same properties as standard particles, but with a greater mass. So some theorists suggest that a particle called the graviton is associated with gravity in the same way as a photon is associated with electromagnetic force.
Starting point is 01:25:30 So there's been a lot of stuff that has come out since CERN has began operation again, which was a couple years ago, I believe. And from what we're hearing out of CERN is that they could have potentially so far been able to show up to 10 dimensions, right? And so if you're thinking about 10 dimensions and then you think about how time doesn't seem very confusing, but let's give you an example real quick. And this all has to do with UFOs and your APs and what we might be seeing. We don't understand, right? So why time is actually really, really confusing is if you guys, and we've mentioned this in other podcast episodes, if you look at, or if you go watch the movie Interstellar, and Interstellar is actually
Starting point is 01:26:13 very scientifically backed film. It's, I researched the film after we've watched it a million times. And especially the first or second time we watched it, we were like, could this be possible? Like, this looks so science fiction. Then if you kind of look behind the scenes of the movie, there was a lot of very scientific research that was put into, could this happen and how could it happen, right? And part of how crazy the interstellar movie is, and for those of you have not seen, you have to watch it. Oh, yeah, for sure. how crazy it is, even in just how crazy that movie is, has a lot to do with time.
Starting point is 01:26:50 And there's probably things that we also don't understand about black holes. There's also what the movie dictates. So this movie basically, and we're not going to give away anything, but they have to go to space, basically. And they have to go far out in space, like way, way out in space. And they're getting near a black hole. And they had had down the spaceship that they were also trying to do the same thing that this, that this unit, which is Matthew McConae, he plays an astronaut that goes up to try to save this, you know, a space team. And a space team crash lands on this planet that is very close to the
Starting point is 01:27:28 outer edge of a black hole, right? And so they're telling him from mission control or whatever, they say, look, when you go down to this planet to see if you can find these people. And by the way, I want you to understand that when you go on this planet, for 30 minutes on this planet is seven years on Earth. And it had to do with the fact of how close the black hole was to the planet and how time works differently there than on Earth. And even though it only took him 30 minutes on this planet, it was seven years gone, you know, back at home. And I'm not going to tell you what happens when he gets on the planet and how long it may have been when he was there and all this stuff. But at one point in time, someone goes through a black hole or at least close enough to the black hole. We're not going to tell the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:28:14 But then he's in this just interdimensional realm. He finds himself in an interdimensional realm. And how the movie explains the interdimensional side of things is very strange. It makes you really, really think hard because you don't understand what they're even trying to say throughout the movie. And then it's like, wow. That is nuts. And even to the point where the interdimensional, there's a dimension in a dimension kind of. meeting up with each other from a different dimension.
Starting point is 01:28:42 But that makes sense. You're like, whoa, wait a minute. This is crazy. Yeah. And so where one person in this other dimension can see the other person and sometimes interact with that other dimension, it's not interacting in the way that you would think. It's not like you can just walk into the room. Say, hey, how are you? Hey, how are you?
Starting point is 01:29:01 I'm in another dimension. I'm going to go back to my dimension. It's not that way because you are now locked in this particular realm, right? And so let's think about the aliens and UFOs like that for a minute. Okay. Yes, there is definitely a possibility that aliens and UFOs can build spacecraft. Maybe they've been around for billions of years, right? Millions of years longer than us.
Starting point is 01:29:25 And that's a very good possibility. I mean, there are so many planets in our universe. I mean, there are so many planets and solar systems in our own galaxy. And then if you think about how many galaxies are in the universe, it's billions and billions of galaxies. And it is expanding all the time. Yeah. So if you have these planets with intelligent life that has been around for much longer than we have, that has utilized their brain power or whatever it is for millions of years to be able to create spacecraft and they figure out ways to travel at the speed of light and be able to, according to Bob Lazar, he believed that the spacecraft he said that he worked on or was a part of at Area 50.
Starting point is 01:30:09 he believed these things had gravitational fields or made their own gravitational fields to interact with our gravity as actually how they transversed, you know, our atmosphere basically or space too. So if you look at that and then you think about like, okay, yeah, that's definitely a possibility. There could have been an intelligent life or probably is an intelligent life on another planet that just had much longer to develop a system and a craft. to be able to get to Earth and be able to transverse the universe effortlessly at the speed of light and potentially probably using some type of gravitational field or whatever. So that's the physical side. But then imagine, you know, look at what CERN's doing. We're trying to find particles and trying to prove, which I believe they have, the existence of other dimensions.
Starting point is 01:31:02 And once you can prove the existence of other dimensions and figure out how those dimensions work, you can then be able to manipulate those dimensions. And those particles they found, don't people even sometimes call it that they found it the God particle? Yeah, the God particle, yeah. Which I think is the Higgs bosom is what they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:31:21 And the God particle is the particle that we never had before and they found that and it was like a really big stuff. Yeah. So this is the God particle. It's the Higgs bosom. And it's a fundamental particle discovered. It was discovered in 2012, and it was discovered at CERN. I just want to make sure,
Starting point is 01:31:43 yeah, so they basically confirmed the existence of the Higgs field and the mechanism that gives rise to mass, and thus completed the standard matter of particle physics, the best description we have of the sub-abtonic world. So, yeah, it's the god particle, as they call it. And I'm not completely, you know, I don't 100% completely understand everything about that exact particle. But nonetheless, we got to look at the UFO-UAP thing as if we're already experimenting with dimensions and trying to find other dimensions and then once we do find that, which I think CERN has already found that, there's been reports out that they've found up to 10 dimensions or they could probably prove there's at least probably 10 and maybe more. You know, for us to be able to start learning that and then
Starting point is 01:32:33 start figuring out like, okay, well, we know this exists, and we know why and how it exists, because we just found particles that show how that works. Once you start being able to do that, then you can start utilizing technology and things to be able to try to start manipulating that realm, that dimension, right? So, and time in itself, being able to manipulate time is going to be a huge first step, I believe, for us. If you can manipulate time, well, you've got to think about things like the movie back to the future or whatever. I mean, that sounds nuts. But there are many theories out there that, you know, either people in our future, right, are, already have been able to utilize time travel, whether it be backwards or forwards. And by the way,
Starting point is 01:33:19 they say now that time travel is not really actually backwards or forwards. It's linear. Yeah, it's left to right, right? So you don't have to go backwards or forwards. It's another dimension. We know time is a dimension, right? We just talked about that. It's four. dimension past the third of what we see. And so that doesn't mean time is frontward to backwards. It's that many scientists believe it's linear. It's left to right. And because of that, I guess it would be much easier once you figure out how exactly it works, how you can manipulate time, right? So if we think that there are aliens and life forms out there that can be smart enough to create a craft to physically get to Earth. But we have to at least think that there are aliens and life forms out
Starting point is 01:34:04 there that have been able to figure out time travel, be able to figure out interdimensional travel. And I think a little bit, like if you go back to the DMT thing, which is what animals and people produce in our pineal glands, I believe, but very little, little amounts. A lot of people say that DMT in our brain is actually what causes a lot of people to dream or most people to dream. They also say that DMT is a reason why animals sense things more than people because they have a larger release of DMT. There are certain animals in the wild that have even larger releases of DMT, which get some more instincts they believe and all these various things. But these experiments where these people got together, 10 or 12 or 15 people took DMT. It basically,
Starting point is 01:34:51 when you take DMT, you basically go unconscious, but your brain goes somewhere else. And it's because you know, I think we only utilize 10% of our brain on average. And what DMT does is it opens up a larger portion of our brain. And the strange thing about that is, is that when it does that, it puts your body in a almost meditative state to where you're not there. Your brain and you're somewhere else. Yeah, it's you're somewhere else. And the interesting thing about this, when they do this in certain experiments with groups of people, these people will see the same thing. And often they see mage elves, as they call them, or what they consider to be interdimensional beings or aliens, a lot of people say. And so there was this one particular incident where they, I think they put
Starting point is 01:35:32 15 people or so together. They saw the same thing. They saw all aliens and standing in a field and they were talking to them and giving them these things. And all of them basically felt and understood what they were saying at the same time. Even though they weren't talking. No, I don't think they were. feeling you could feel what they're saying. Yeah. Yeah, it's like an interdimensional connection thing. And then after that, I think there have been other studies that have kind of showed that, you know, this is definitely something that we have to understand. And so people might say, well, that's just drugs. Well, DMT is a naturally occurring thing, right? And it is
Starting point is 01:36:05 something that if you manipulate it, which is what people will do when you take DMT, um, it's not, I think the DMT thing is, is something huge because we have to understand that we don't comprehend other dimensions, right? We can comprehend what we see, which is third dimension, but we can't truly comprehend what time even is. And so when you allow your brain
Starting point is 01:36:27 to open up with something like DMT, right, and your brain is operating in a higher rate and a larger capacity, there are things that we understand and realize, I believe, in that experience that we just can't otherwise experience. And I think somehow
Starting point is 01:36:43 it opens our brain up to that other dimension that we just can't typically see. All right? And so, and by the way, I'm not advocating for drugs or use or whatever. I'm just saying this is, you know, this has been, you know, we know the MK Ultra and the military used LSD and other drugs on unsuspecting citizens and military members. And they used it a part of the MK.K. Ultra mind control program. They tried to see, you know, hey, let's let's get their brain in this just whacked out state and then tell them and do certain things to them to basically brainwash them. And it worked. And they were utilizing this to hopefully use it in tactics, whether it be CIA or whoever,
Starting point is 01:37:22 to be able to manipulate people that they had in custody or even foreign aggressors or whatever in certain situations. This is why they say that they used MK. Ultra program. But we have to start thinking about the aliens and UFOs thing as a interdimensional deal. I mean, I think it's almost more likely that it is some type of interdemeanor. And then you got to start thinking about paranormal when you think about that. And I think they all kind of go together. But what I'm thinking about, I know there's a lot of people out there that have seen UFOs or seeing things in the sky that shouldn't be there are reacting in the sky in different ways.
Starting point is 01:38:01 And I'm just wondering, is it possible that these things we see in the sky are from a different dimension, not from our dimension? Well, yeah. I mean, it's like that one. You remember we were on the golf course. It was that evening. And we've had, I think you and I have had two really true UFO type experiences, the one that was set off car alarms and it was just craziness going on the night. I know that it sounds nuts, but it happened.
Starting point is 01:38:29 And then the other time we were on the golf course, and we were just looking up and it was evening. It wasn't dark yet. The sky was pretty bright still. And there was this light that would start at a point and go to another point and then it would disappear. And then it looked like it started over and did it again. It was like almost on a rewind or something. Yeah. And then it would move every once in a while to another area and do the exact same thing.
Starting point is 01:38:56 And it almost looks like something was entering and exiting a portal is what it looked like. And you could see a glimpse of it for a minute. We watched this for like, I don't know, until it was dark. Once it was dark, you no longer saw it anymore. This was not an airplane. This was not a satellite. This was none of that. It was something like it was tripped up or it was a multiple of something.
Starting point is 01:39:13 of something and then disappearing back into... Exactly. Yeah, it was crazy. It was really weird. That was one of the weirdest things. And that's why I wonder, maybe these things we do see could be interdimensional. Oh, yeah. And maybe it was tripped up in between two dimensions. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I mean, and it's just like Commander David Fravor and Ryan Graves and some of their explanations of how these crafts work and even the military guys that were on these ships, right? And they, you know, are these things that are going from zero to light speed speed?
Starting point is 01:39:43 which is what Commander David Fravor said it would get there and then would just disappear it was so fast Are they disappearing because they're so fast or are they disappearing because it is interacting with this dimension and gone? Like it's almost as if it's like Like if you ever did see a ghost right or whatever and then they just disappear Is it like that or is it because of this the intense speed that they that they utilize now? I don't know I don't know but I think that the things like over our oceans and and so and so forth could be interdimensional. They also could be physical with propulsion systems that we just don't understand. But the thing I go back to is that these reports that from the Pentagon, if you go listen to Tom DeLong's experience,
Starting point is 01:40:28 he was really heavily connected in the government, had a lot of people, John Rackcliffe, or was it John Rack? There was a lot of people that he was in these email chains with and connections with and his team. He has a huge team behind this. has for a while. And they, he said they, the government thinks that more than likely these UFO UAPs are probably interdimensional. I mean, this is the government saying this, right? And, and if that's the case, you know, it leads you to believe like, and look, is it possible, too, that there could be two different ones? I mean, could you have interdimensional aliens and physical
Starting point is 01:41:08 aliens? Yes, you could. We live in a very vast universe. And I think there's just so much about this life and in this world and this universe, we just do not understand. I mean, when something happens on this planet, like the past few years, we can't even get that right. I mean, we can't even get something right to save our own people's lives with something that we created, okay? And so it would not surprise me whatsoever that the government literally just has zero clue about what is exactly going on, but I do think they're on to something with the interdimensional deal. Yeah, with the whole certain thing.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Yeah, and that's something like I really want to get someone on this podcast soon. We're going to book somebody that really knows the interdimensional stuff. You know, we just did a podcast about harp, and you guys should go listen to it. We had Alana Freeland on. She's an harp expert on the geoengineering slash weather engineering of harp in Alaska. And I thought she was fantastic. We need someone like her that can discuss the interdimensional side of things, the physical. side of all of that as well.
Starting point is 01:42:16 So as soon as we can find somebody like that, we will definitely bring them on the show. But we did just want to, we wanted to at least mention the interdimensional side because I think there's something big with that. And so when we think about things like, oh, well, how
Starting point is 01:42:31 would this even be possible? How would this be possible? There's so much we don't understand. And I know a lot of you listen in this and follow the UFO thing. I'm sure that a lot of you understand the possibility of interdimensional aliens. But there's also a lot of people there are new listeners to the alien UFO thing because it's all over to media. And so some of you may be thinking, listening to this, like, what?
Starting point is 01:42:51 Interdimensional? Are you crazy? But I'm just telling you, watch the movie Interstellar, and then go look at some of the research behind it, and even look at CERN's website about the fourth dimension's time. And then think about what science says about how time can be warped and manipulated and everything else. Yeah, and like you said, it's not just frontward and backwards. It's parallel.
Starting point is 01:43:11 You're right. But we are going to end this podcast episode with a song. It's called an alien in love. Actually, we were looking up music for the end of this show, but it's hilarious song. I want you guys to listen to it. It's hilarious, but it's also stupid, which is exactly why you need to listen. Yeah, but it's our anniversary, and this is an alien in love, and we're in love, so aliens can be in love too. Yes, they can.
Starting point is 01:43:35 So anyways, guys, this is an alien in love. We will talk to you guys very soon. We are definitely not. not done. What in the world is going on with this? Well, the alien's no longer in love. The alien does not want to play his love song. Okay, anyways. So here is an alien in love. And I hope you guys thoroughly enjoy this song. And until next time, peace out. Peace out, guys.

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