Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Podcasts | AARO Report with Alien Addict

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

Recently, the AARO (All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office) released their comprehensive report detailing their findings on 'alien' encounters, UFOs, and UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena). Despite high anticipation within the UFO community, the report left many disappointed yet again by the US Government's elusive stance on the matter. However, this disappointment begs the question: what implications does this hold?AARO, an office operating within the United States Office of the Secretary of Defense, is tasked with investigating unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and other anomalous phenomena across various domains—air, sea, space, and land—often referred to as UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena). In this episode, we delve into the enigmatic world of UFOs and UAPs, joined by special guests from the Alien Addict podcast.Join us as we explore the depths of UFO encounters, probe the mysteries of UAPs, contemplate the existence of extraterrestrial life, and dissect the implications of the AARO report. This promises to be an illuminating episode you won't want to miss. All of this and more on this episode of UFO UAP Podcasts | AARO Report with Alien Addict.Our X AccountAlien Addict on SpotifyAlien Addict on YoutubeAlien Addict on X

welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. And on tonight's podcast, we have a very special guest, Alien Addict is on the podcast with us tonight. Lee, Dave, and Ollie, we will be talking about the recent error report, which a lot of people are calling BS on. But welcome, Lee, Dave, and Ollie. How are you guys doing?

Doing great, man. Thanks for having us on. Yeah, another problem. Ollie, how's it going? Great, great, great. Yeah, and it was a pleasure that you came on to. our show, the other day,

absolutely awesome. Yeah, yeah, no problem. And it was awesome. And Lee, how's everything been going?

Everything's fine. We look forward to this since you were on our show last week. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. And I just love doing a podcast with them because I love

their accent from England. I think it's so cool. I like, I try to pretend to be English and I just cannot get it. No, we do not do very good English accents.

But guys, welcome to the show. For those that don't know who Alien Add Nick to R. We had just recently went on their show on YouTube. It is actually one of our kind of first video episodes we've done. I mean, we do have stuff on a Rumble. Investigator of the podcast. You can find some of our video stuff over there. But this was our new studio where we actually went to their YouTube channel, did a podcast talking about aliens, talking about conspiracy, all that stuff with them. Very gracious host. And we definitely appreciate them having us on. But what we do want to let everybody know before we get into this Arrow episode, They are on Spotify and most, I guess, all of your streaming platforms for audio. So you audio listeners out there, go make sure to go check them out. Very entertaining.

And man, they love talking about the same stuff we do, right? Let me ask you guys before we get into, I guess, the topic. Ollie, do you guys typically talk about conspiracy as well? Or is it primarily kind of surrounding the UFO topic? Well, it started with It started with Mars and Moon anomalies Then it kind of went into the UFOs, aliens And then unfortunately I met Dave and Lee

And it just got blipped upside down And Into total conspiracy So they took me down some rabbit holes But we are We're a bit like the Ghostbusters. Yeah.

Yeah. Now that makes sense. And Lee, you are in, I forgot, Isle a Man, right? Yep. Isle a man. And Lee, so what are you primarily interested in? Have you been kind of the alien buff? Like, who here believes in aliens the most?

Let me ask that question. Oh, that's definitely Olly. Okay. I sort of came in to Alien Addict because I had my own podcast and I needed somebody that would speak about aliens and UFO Jesus didn't reply to me but Ollie did. And so we became mates like that. But I remember I started going on Alien addict and he'd have all these people that have been into this for a long time.

Yeah. And I always thought to myself because I was like everybody else. I was into conspiracies and you were a little bit about UFOs and aliens. And I was surprised that these people that have been doing everything for like years. in this subject, had no, no extra evidence. And I, rather than becoming more of a believer in UFOs, I think I became more skeptical of aliens as being like actual, like, life forms from outside this earth, the more, the more shows we did.

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I think that's something we've learned in our podcast over six or seven years is there's things that maybe we had no idea about. And the more we did episodes and the more we researched and the more we started kind of wrapping our head around stuff, the more we, were kind of blown away by that. And Dave, you actually, we, I guess all of us really have a connection through Ashton Forbes,

but you actually met Ashton Forbes. And Dave, what is your kind of stance on conspiracy and Alien? And then, you know, and then also you recently met Ashton, right, in Nashville? Yeah, yeah. So on the Ashton point, yeah, we hung out in Nashville because we had him on the show several times when he was coming up and we'd also defended him on X there for a while. I know I had for quite a bit when people were like going after him personally instead of the information and the conspiracy, they're making it a personal attack, which it's just bizarre. Yeah.

You know, there's enough room for everyone. And if you don't like someone's opinion, that's fine. Disprove it. If they don't agree with you, then you just kind of, you can move on. But yeah, so we got together and hung out. It was a really good time. It was fun. I took him to the terrorist attack, the bombing in downtown Nashville.

It was good. It was good to get to know him. He's a really good dude. I like him. Yeah. As for UFOs and that, I'm, there's definitely lights in the sky, right? There's lights in the sky. Something's going on as to what it is.

I mean, I don't know. Yeah. I lean more and more that it is not little green men. Okay. And as far as conspiracy goes, I'm all about it. Like my wife jokes and she tells people like, I've never met a conspiracy I didn't like. So I'm usually all in like there is never a day that goes by that I'm not at least 15% sure lizard people run the world. Yeah.

You know. All right. So Lee and Dave, if you believe in these lights in the sky, then where do you think they're coming from? What do you think it is? Do you want to go first, Dave? I was afraid you were going to say that. What do I think they are? I don't know.

I mean, I don't know. No one knows, right? I can theorize. And a lot of the things I come to, too, I look at just me is a biblical aspect for a lot of things. And, you know, Ezekiel had wheels within wheels with eyes and lights and, you know, terrible things and people were afraid. Could they be angels or demons or, you know, leftover technology from Nephilim who escaped? Or are those, you know, those allegories, are they primitive man's way of trying to tell a more complex? like story of previous histories.

Yeah. Previous incarnations of technology. You know, one of the things that I know, you know, Bob Lazar talked about was, you know, they found them, and he did this recently, which I thought was interesting. They found,

what is it, archaeological finds. That's what he had mentioned on Joe Rogan. And to me, that makes a lot more sense. Like, do I believe the government is back engineering technology that we don't know who developed it? 100%.

do I think it's from you know Mars or beta reticula or whatever I don't I don't believe so but then I don't also believe that there's little ships like you can have a phenomenon and it doesn't have to be one thing it's like this is the way I say it on a show and I used to say it all the time I probably need to bring it back a squid porpoise and a tuna all live in the sea but they are vastly different creatures yeah true but they all live in the sea and that's kind of how i see this like you look at like paranormal phenomenon goes hand in hand with lights in the sky people who see you know saskwatra have those reports when you talk to them's like did you see any lights in the sky did you hear any booms and like actually i did yeah it was very

that's bizarre yeah uh people who see things in the sky is like have you ever had paranormal encounters they'll list off this detail of how, you know, they lived in this haunted house and in this haunted house and they used to have visions of their grandmother. And so what you find are people who live these paranormal lives that just have these incredibly extraordinary encounters. But because they're so used to everything else, you know, it. Absolutely. No, I, that's a rambling explanation for you. Well, and you did bring that up on your show. And I was like, yeah, you're right.

I mean, it never really made sense to me why I do see these lights, why they do. surround me and why I feel things in our house. I don't know what they are. There's something that's not from this world, whatever it is, something interdimensional. But you're right. I think that if people are able to open their minds to one thing, I think their minds are open to another thing. If that's what is, it's using your mind.

I'm not sure. Yeah. And I think, yeah, to Dave's point, I think there's definitely, I think a lot of people don't often co-align paranormal with UFOs or aliens. but I think that's a definitely good connection. We're going to come back to somewhat Dave said. Lee, what about you? Why are you skeptical primarily?

I think I agree with Dave on like a lot of stuff when it comes to this. But my thoughts always been if we were being visited by like extraterrestrials in the, the way we've been thinking of them pretty much since, you know, since the 90s when this whole thing really, really exploded. I don't think something like that would care too much about if we saw it. So it wouldn't be the case of we continually see just things in the sky. I think things would be landing. I think things would be interacting with us in a way that we just see like animals interact with each other.

Because you know, you don't see a bear every time you go in the woods, but you know there's bears there. you don't have to, you don't have to physically see a bear every time you go in to know that they exist. And if we've been visited, like for hundreds of, like thousands of years,

all the way back, I think it would be common knowledge that there was something else other than us, rather than this folklore sort of fairy tale that it is. And I think we could do a lot of good there too, is going back and looking at more of these sort of old folklore tales, like fairies and, stuff and stuff like that because I feel that the phenomena,

whatever this is, presents itself to us in a way that we can handle at the time. So maybe when we were looking at like fairies and pixies and stuff like that, that was just a way of this phenomenon interacting with people as they would understand it then. Now it's technological. It's a technological phenomenon. Yeah, that is interesting. And to what Sherry asked you, Lee, And Dave, Ollie, why do you believe in aliens?

Well, I think both these two are nuts. I think they're from Mars. So that's probably why, actually. No, I will say this, if my mind has been kind of flipped upside down through alien addict. I started off with one belief and that is gradually just changing. I have no idea what it is, but I do think that I disagree with Lee that if they are here, I believe in that Star Trek theory,

the prime directive, I don't think they would show themselves to a primitive species. So maybe that's why they don't show up. I don't know. Yeah. But they also could be demons. Mm-hmm. Thought about that a lot.

And by the way, we have, we've had one of our friends on Bree quite often. She hosts a spiritual slash Christian podcast. She knows the Bible in the Times podcast. She knows it very well. In the Times of Bree. And I think, and I don't want to speak for her, but I think Bree's theory on if aliens exist, right? and the aliens that I think most people think of, right? Or even potentially paranormal that could be demons.

Why do you think potentially demons, Ollie? I just look at the way the world is now. Everything's gone nuts. And it just, it's worrying. So are you saying maybe because we're having, maybe because we're having this huge conversation about aliens now, we're seeing more aliens potentially. We actually did an episode, by the way, before anyone out there starts thinking, well,

are we seeing more aliens? Are we not? I think we have kind of come to the conclusion that we actually are seeing more things in the sky than we have, maybe at least in our lifetime. Well, I think it's both. You know, people are, you know, especially during the COVID era, everybody was at home, couldn't work. You know, people were looking at the sky more often.

And I think when you're looking at the sky more often, you have more of an opportunity to maybe see these things. But I also agree with you, Chad. I think that there are more and more circumstances where people are able to like film these things on their cell phones and have, you know, actual video. Yeah. So are you thinking maybe because we're seeing more of this that potentially maybe there's a connection with the way the world is today with that maybe?

Well, I don't think we've seen more of them. I think we saw more of them back when people have. are just normal cameras. Yeah. You know, if you look back at the, the 50s, 60s, 70s,

you get more compelling UFO pictures than you do get now from cell phones. Even though people might disagree with that, but if you actually go back and look at the research and you look at the pictures, there's better pictures way back when when there is now. And how do you trust anything that's out there now?

And I mean, now we've got AI. Right. Right. We could get the best footage ever. And it could be from years and years ago. And they'd say this has been released. And then somebody would say, well, that's AI. Yeah.

And Dave, oh, sorry, sorry, Ali. Go ahead. I was just going to say, even the officials that don't want this out, that's the biggest excuse they could use. They could say, well, this is probably AI. We don't know how we can trust this. Yeah, and the AI thing to your point to that is like there's a lot of, there's a conspiracy out there, by the way, about AI and deep fakes, right?

Because there's a big conspiracy that says that, you know, the government elites, the people that are really doing some deep, dark, sinister things, they're going to use AI and those deep fakes to their advantage so that when actual videos of them doing very bad things come out, that they can just pass it off as AI or deep fake, right? Right, right. And this is the way of the world. that we're living in. But Dave, on your episode or on you guys podcast on YouTube, one thing you had mentioned

was, you know, in today's world, and to Ollie's point, you know, we used to have basic cameras, whatever, and we would capture a lot of things. Now you're seeing a lot of video and images and stuff. And listen, a lot of that is probably fake. But at the same time, going back, it's like, okay, we always used to want clearer pictures, clearer video better video um and dave was like well you know back then is like well show us clear video and then when you do show us clear video or you do show us evidence or you are trying to tell us something then the public is like well no that's not true because you're telling us that

Dave what was kind of your thought on that I know you know what I'm talking about yeah yeah it's it's it's the just a strange quirk of cons I think it's conspiracy across the board a lot of conspiracy theorists fall into this weird little hole of the government is absolutely lying to us and we need them to have disclosure and admit their wrongdoing for whatever reason. And then the government will, oh, you know what? Yeah. Yeah, we, you know, exposed pregnant women to massive doses of radiation. We inoculated people with STDs and then didn't treat them to see what would happen. We did these things. And then people were like, ah, well, I don't know. I mean, no, they just, they really told. I mean, these things really happened. Like, they told you that.

And that took people time. So when we talk about these concepts that are so beyond what most people can really, I think, process when the government does admit something, which I think is their greatest tactic. Their greatest tactic is admitting a half-truth, letting the conspiracy world and theorists tear each other apart. And then they come out afterwards. And you can see a pattern of it and be like, ah, that was all fake. That was a misrepresentation. and then you get all these people that are that are conspiracy theorists that have channels that have podcasts and people at home. It's like a sigh of relief.

Like I knew it was fake. Yeah. Because while we want these miraculous things to be and these amazing things to be out there, it's also terrifying. Yeah, for sure. Like it's terrifying to think that, let's say that aliens are from another planet and they're not having contact and they're just watching us, right? They exist in a different time space than we do or they age differently. whatever. So, you know, 5,000 years to them is a week. It's no big deal. That would be a frightening, frightening thing, I think, for most people. Also, what if they are demons or something? That's,

that's in just a different frequency outside our reality and our perception. Yeah. That are limitless and can move around and see and hear all and they're feeding off your negative woes. For sure. I don't know which one of those things is worse, you know? And it, I think that fear is what leads people to demand of the government and at the same time reject the government and accept the government. It's this bizarre mental illness. It's like we're, I don't know, it's bizarre. And before we get into the Arrow report here and some of the key questions that were either not, well, mostly not answered, have you guys, and you guys can pick who goes first, but we'll go back to Lee. have you guys ever to Dave's point of what he's just talking about and I know a lot of listeners

out there probably have had this thought process at some point in time you're you're laying in your bed at night say that you can't sleep it's 1.30 in the morning and look this is just me 1 30 in a morning 2 o'clock in the morning and I'm sitting here right I grew up Christian and by the way I still adamantly believe in God I believe that God exists I believe that we're going to go somewhere when we die but then there's also there's always been the common question among anyone in my opinion, I don't care who you are. There's always the question in the back of your mind of like what happens when you die and commonly religion and God and all that is what kind of subdues that fear, right, in that question. But even as a believer in God, and I believe that when I

die, I'm going somewhere and I think I'm going to heaven. I think I'm going with God or whatever. But there's still that question is like, as this alien UFO phenomenon, on kind of really starts taking place in the actual public square and in places we're really talking about the government's talking about it now and then I think that's also why so many people are so hardcore about wanting answers from the government which is like why are you turning the government not sure because they lied to you about everything but nonetheless have you guys ever really just dove really deep I remember one night we sharing I watched this video it was it was what infinity meant

my God. And so we were literally laying in bed watching this video. And it was a video about infinity. And it tried to explain what infinity actually was. And it just blew my mind. And I was like, we got to turn this off because this is going to give me an anxiety attack. But have you ever laid in bed and when this UFO phenomenon interdimensional thing starts taking place? And then have you guys ever thought like, what if everything I've ever known or believed could be wrong?

And how does this UFO thing play into me and my life? life and why am I alive and why can I hear and think and see and fill and how do how do I relate to if UFOs are actually in existence if there is interdimensional creatures or or beings how does it relate to me have you guys ever had like really deep thoughts like that late at night I think if you don't doubt if you don't doubt what you've been thinking about when it comes to subjects like this you're probably already crazy you know you they have that you have to if you don't doubt if you don't doubt what you've been thinking about when it comes to subjects like this you've If you don't think about sort of stuff, I don't care if you're like looking into Sasquatch or ghosts or any of these conspiracy type subjects.

If you don't think to yourself for a split second about, oh, hang on a second, what if I'm wrong? What if Normyland is real? And it's you don't go down those roads. Then you've, you've lost. You can't have an objective opinion on anything. And as for those like crushing thoughts of death and things like that, I've actually found that looking into conspiracies,

especially the like occult stuff where you say, oh, hang on a second. There's there seems to be people, there seems to be people out there that have some like deep religious beliefs in things that I don't 100% know about, that aren't 100% surface level religion. That pushed me to become religious. I didn't believe in God for the majority of my life.

I was at best agnostic. And I've started to realize that powerful people believe in something. And I don't think it's what we believe, what we believe in. And I think at that point it's probably best being on the home team. And in my opinion, just to collaborate what you're saying, it's almost like, you know, like Chad was saying, he was born in a Christian household. I was kind of born in a Jewish Christian household. I didn't know what I was. So I never went to church or temple.

I just, you know, whatever. But as I've become an adult and I've been thinking about these things, it's more of a spiritual thing than a religious thing. Like, what if every religion is wrong? but we know the spiritual thing is happening where we know we have a body which is a vessel and our soul is inside that body and as long as our body is alive on earth

that is us but once we die our souls are removed from the vessel and they go somewhere else and maybe it's on a UFO maybe we become alien I don't know if you guys have noticed this as well but I think this fits in

with the UFO topic as well I know there's a quote from Einstein when he was asked, when people stop believing in God, would they not believe in anything? And his answer was, no, if people stop believing in God, they'll believe in everything. And I feel now more than ever, people are really trying to find something to believe in. And I think that's why people have invested themselves in politics so much. It's why they've invested themselves in conspiracies so much. I think there's a much bigger push, especially if you listen to, like, podcasts with, like, quite young people on. There's quite a lot of people out there

now that are, like, quite proud to be Christians and are pushing that forward, which I quite like. But I think that was magnified, like Sherry mentioned COVID before, because up until COVID, we kind of had this prearranged deal with tomorrow that it would be the same as yesterday. And we all know now that there is no guarantee that tomorrow will be the same as yesterday. Yeah. And I feel like people are now scrambling, trying to work things out more where they've probably just spent the last few years sleepwalking before that. Yeah. No, you're right.

And that's an amazing point, by the way. I really like that. Ali, what is your thoughts on that? Do you have deep, dark thoughts like that? So, I mean, I'm going to use this as an example. we did a show on Alastair Crowley and we all agreed that before we did this show

we really needed to kind of delve into the life of Alastairrily so we did I think we did about a deep dive two weeks just solid watching documentaries on him some of us did some reading I didn't I'll be honest with you

I'm being slightly sicker I the reading's not great but what happened after that and these the boys will back me up with this all of us had nightmares for days after the show and explain to me who this is by the way

what was his name Alastair Crowley okay and what is and what is this person's thing maybe I'm stupid and I don't know this but no father of modern day Satanism it's probably there Satanism oh and so you guys had nightmares after watching all these documentaries about it.

Or Alistair, Alistair Crowley is the guy that all of your pop stars idolized in the 60s. He's on the cover of Sergeant Pepper. David Bowie was a huge, huge fan of Crowley's. I'm not convinced that David Bowie didn't buy one of his properties, actually. I think was it the Red Hot Chili Peppers recorded Blood Sugar Sex Magic in his old house? Was that Anthony say? Was it?

That was Crowley, yeah. Wow. And now I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Wow. So you guys, so you guys interviewed this guy. What was your, what was your takeaway from this, Ollie? Oh, no.

Well, no, we didn't interview him. He's passed away. Oh, I got it. He's passed away now. But he, he's the first person that if you look at, if you go back and try to look at the first picture of an alien gray that anybody depicted. forget these pictures on caves and walls that we kind of look at scribbles and go could that be an alien gray Dave what is it a lamb?

Yeah lamb yeah so there if you if you research alice to Crowley and put the word lamb in there or Alice Crowley alien gray drawing what he depicted when he was he summoned this creature and it looks like what people see as alien grace but this was I think it's going on now

nearly 100 years ago wow this is a long time ago I mean he's been dead a long time he was such a strange character but with a

I don't want to say yeah, I will say an amazing life when you look into it but a life full of demonic worship and you know not good things. Yeah.

He was addicted to drugs. He he was an odd character. Dave probably knows a lot more about him than I do. But yeah. That's very interesting. after that show that we did all of us the next because we have this like we have a group

trap and we just do voice memos and all of us the next day was we were talking about our nightmares and it went on mine went on for a few days and it kind of got me thinking about this whole subject and wondering if it is more related to angels and demons than it is to nuts and balls craft with creatures coming from, as they would say, Zeta reticular. I'm baffled with the whole subject. Am I still an alien? I think I am because it's alien. I don't know what.

I have no idea. God is technically an alien. Yeah, exactly. But I have to agree with you guys that, you know, a lot of things come to me in my dreams. Is that just my dreams? or is it actually something that is coming to me? You know, it's like a lot of people think about, you know, loved ones that have passed over and they had a dream about them.

Was it really them in the dream or was it just a dream? Yeah, absolutely. And I agree wholeheartedly. Dave, what do you think about that? Deep, dark thoughts? Was his name Crawley? Crowley. Oh, I am a deep dark thought.

So there's that. No, I mean, so like in the subject, I know when it started out with the original question was of faith. So full disclosure, like I was ordained when I was like 17. I went to Or Roberts University. I'm way into all that stuff. And I've had a couple crises of faith and whatnot throughout my life. And just bizarre happenings. But yeah, I have, I've had plenty of those. I agree with Lee. I was like, if you haven't thought, if you haven't had a moment where you think everything I believe or think is wrong and I'm a fool. And if that doubt hasn't hit you, then you're a crazy person.

You know, that is totally normal. Yeah. You know, even Jesus asked for the cup to be taken from his lips, right? Like, can this be passed? Is there any other way? Not that it's doubt, but I mean, come on. Like, yeah, there's a lot there. but yeah faith is is something that I stand on and go by and I have found that these researching and

delving into these things has strengthened it and part of it is I agree with Lee 100% it's something I argued to other people when they're like how can you do that how can you believe this one XYZ it's like because there's these people in offices and emails that are out on the internet and they're talking about hardcore things that are bad and they 100 wholeheartedly believe it without flinching and if you ain't got something to hold on to you they're just got a railroad right through you you won't know what to do you you're just you're going to be lost in the wind um so you got to find something to hold on to mm-hmm but uh no i agree yeah i mean i'm i'm you know i'm a heavy christian background faith but i also look at all these other things and

I think it does fit together. You know, I don't have a problem with it. I don't find it that it conflicts in any way. I agree. I agree. And you know what the thing is, the more I've thought about it, even the Adam and Eve story, the fact that the CIA actually classified that book, right? The Adam and Eve story where it talks about ancient civilizations.

And I think, by the way, we did a podcast on the Adam and Eve story. I think why the CIA really classified that book was because it really gave a really good argument. If you were a really good attorney in a court of law, it gave a great argument to where one of the biggest arguments for scientists backed people that were either atheist or people that not believe in God. They wanted to always use the dinosaur theory and the fact that God didn't exist back then. The world didn't exist back then. But we also know the Bible in a lot of ways, if you research the Bible, a lot of people don't fully understand necessarily the timeframes of the Bible, the numbers in the Bible, the numbering the amount of people. We don't know any of that. The Adam and Eve story kind of said

that God and the Adam and Eve story was actually far, far before what the Bible or not even the Bible, but what people in today's society try to explain away of, well, the Adam and Eve story was only this long ago. We don't know when Adam and Eve story was. And the Adam and Eve story that was, and the classified by the CIA really tells a very detailed picture of the Adam and Eve story according to this book was the beginning, right? And it was, and it was the beginning among potentially 12 advanced civilizations over time. I think it was at least 12.

I just think there's a lot we don't know. And I think there's a lot we don't even know about our own history. I mean, and I'm talking about from like 1900 to now, not even 3,000 years ago. well i mean even just in recent history when you talk about science there as well i mean we just broke up alistair crowley i mean how many people out there that are like devout sort of nassar and space fans know that jack parsons the father of modern modern day rocketry was involved in the babylon workings which was like a satanic ritual with alron hubbard and alastaird to Crowley.

No, it's, it's, if you look into the Babylon workings, it's mental that what,

what that was about. Yeah, we will definitely have to check that out. That's nuts. We got some, we got some stuff to talk about for sure.

Let's get into the error report. So the four big questions according to wired, the Pentagon's new UFO report fails the answer. The Pentagon says, it's not hiding aliens, but it stops notably short of saying

what it is hiding. Here are the key questions that remain unanswered. So after about a year of eyebrow raising headlines about government whistleblowers, a legend that the military is running secret programs, focused on alien spaceships and a months-long study in dogged investigative work through the shadows of classified Pentagon programs. The United States Defense Department announced Friday that it found no evidence

that the government is governed up any contact with extraterrestrials. The first sentence of the 63-page report on the government's involvement with the unidentified anomalous phenomenon, a report mandated and driven by Congress seemingly left no wiggle room, and the study found no evidence that any USG or U.S. government investigation, academic sponsored research or official review panel has confirmed that any sighting of a UAP represented extraterrestrial technology. And that goes with NASA as well.

They just came out with their own report a week ago saying exactly what you're saying right now. Yeah. So all investigative efforts at all levels of classification and concluded that most of, Most sightings were ordinary objects and phenomena in result of misidentification. The report was issued by the Pentagon's All-Demone anomaly Resolution Office, or also known as Arrow. The unit created in task in recent years was studying UAP sightings and untangling the truth of government knowledge and understanding the generations of UFO reports. It follows media interviews and a blockbuster congressional hearing last summer where whistleblower David Grush testified that the government was engaged in a decades-long cover-up of craft. alien spacecraft in possession even of non-human biologics, e.g. alien bodies,

and Gresh and other witnesses and whistleblowers came forward to congressional committees and the Pentagon investigators and hinted at astounding possibilities, including that the government was running secret UFO crash retrieval programs and defense contractors were running covert programs hidden even from budget appropriators, reverse engineer, captured alien technology. So obviously this report was all over Twitter. It was all over, I say Twitter, but X. Some of the key things is the report emphasizes the importance of a rigorous scientific framework and a data-driven approach to address UAP.

Now, obviously, it was established in 2022. The report acknowledges the persistence of a strong but shifting collection bias and notes that the abundance of UAP reports within restricted military airspace has been tempered by reports from commercial pilots. The report also describes the data collection and analysis process as new UAP reports are required, emphasizing the importance of technical sensor information that yields the highest quality of pertinent, valuable data for review. So what they're basically saying there is is that it might be our equipment this malfunction.

The other thing is the report states the only a very small percentage of UAP reports display in arresting signatures, such as high-speed travel and unknown morphology. Currently, most sightings involve objects that demonstrate ordinary characteristics of readily explainable sources. The report concludes that Arrow has received a total of 801 reports of UAPs as of April 30th, 2024, and not April 23, with 290 occurring within the error domain and one in the maritime domain. The report confirms that the Department of Defense has not found any verifiable evidence of

and that the U.S. government or private industry has ever had access to extraterrestrial technology. And the report also highlights the launch of the all-domain Anonymous Resolution Office website, which serves as a one-stop shop for all publicly available information. So guys, look, if you want to know if God's real, aliens are real, COVID's real, vaccines are good, whatever. You look, you just go to the government's website. They will tell you everything you need to know. And if that's not good enough, go to factcheck.org or snopes.com. I'm sorry.

Yes, go. But I think, do your point, there is no good place to report sightings. No. You know, because I've gone there. I was like, I'm going to report what I saw. And it was just like this BS old website where that's where you're supposed to report your sightings. Yeah. And I think that's part of the problem.

And then whatever people are reporting, they're not taking seriously. No. So before we get into this, let's go to a couple of clips here that I have, which I literally just lost. But no, let's go to a couple reports because here's the thing. The error report really highlights a lot of things that I still think people are lying

and I wanted to play a clip from Jeremy Corbell. Now, for anyone that does not know who Jeremy Corbell is, Jeremy Corbell, he hosts the, what is it called? What's his podcast called, guys? Weaponized. Weaponized. Yeah.

The weaponized. The older guy. George Knapp. Yeah. And the older guy. So anyways, he hosts that podcast. And Jeremy Corbell has been a at the forefront, I guess, of releasing and being in contact with a lot of potential ex-government employees or current government employees to

where they are supposedly leaking either footage or data or information to Jeremy Corbell, along with George Knapp. George Knapp, by the way, for those that don't know, George Knapp is the one that broke basically the Bob Lazar story. That's how George Knapp is coming to prominence in the UFO community. And so this is what Jeremy Corbell says. He and George Knapp have recorded direct first hand UFO witnesses testimony, the same information they reported to Arrow.

And so this comes after the Arrow report. Here you go. We secretly met with, you know, in D.C. I've talked to a number of those folks we met with. And the response is kind of, well, we're only as good as the information that we have. But I got to call bullshit because I know for sure some information that Arrow had. I know what information they're covering up from direct firsthand witnesses that have testified to you and me, George, and have allowed us to document it. So people that have gone in the classified

setting and they have reported to Arrow what they know have also with us gone on record and it is recorded what it is that they said they testified to as like a backup for journalists, right? You and I can tell people 100% that they did not reveal all of that. The arrow did not reveal all of that. I have to imagine that those people came to us to have that documented and recorded so that if this happened, that their stories would be heard, that their information would be heard. So it is factual out, just absolute lies that Arrow hasn't heard this testimony and none of it

was convincing. Now, I don't know what extraterrestrial intelligence is. I don't know for sure where UFOs are from, but I do know that their conclusion is absolute bunk. And by them choosing journalists to be there to propagate and parent their messaging to the American public, it's almost like, I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous that they think they can get away with that when we have information technology where it's like everybody can put out the information. I mean, they should be a little bit scared. They should be very fucking scared. All right.

So there you go. There's Jeremy Corbell. That's what he was talking about with George Knapp on Weaponized podcast. All right. Let's go to skeptical Lee. That's what we're going to call him. Lee, listen, listen, here's the thing. Here's the thing.

So what do you think about the airport? Does the fact that there are a lot of people, including Dave Grush, for example, they have come out and said he's been in fear of his life and he's spoke to a lot of different people and all of this stuff. And there's also been other whistler. So you have people like Commander David Fravor that was a pilot of an F-18 fighter jet where he's seen this thing along with other pilots that that did extraordinary maneuvers, something that, at least that we know of, we have no capabilities of doing.

You have Ryan Graves. You have people that have, you know, said they've been abducted before and all this stuff. How much stock do you put in the error report in their honesty? And do you think it's because of what they're hiding as far as their tech or maybe interdimensional aliens or even maybe some kind of spiritual thing? Well, first of all, it reeks like a modern-day blue book, doesn't it? Yeah.

You know, that's how it feels. That's where its purpose is. But I noticed the other day that the reports that they're being pulled on for not including are like the Nemitz or the TikTok, you know, the Frabers story. I don't really trust anything that comes out of the government ever. and I always think there's some sort of reasoning behind it. And I've said right from the minute this sort of push for disclosure happened, that regardless of whether I think it's like Little Green Men or not, I think there's going to be some sort of endgame to it.

I do. I think there's an end game. I think the New York Times article was the prolog. And then we have with each coming whistleblower that's come out, we've had another chapter and another chapter that's essentially built evidence and built a narrative around crash retrievals,

extraterrestrials, as in the planet, like massive government cover-ups including like private industry. Yeah. To me, this report, because of the cases it leaves out,

I think it's designed because like I said, I think there's going to I think there's an end game to whatever game is being played here. I think it's designed to make people demand answers. And I personally, I think that's the next phase of whatever this disclosure circus is, is the media people that have been paying attention to this will demand answers from Congress. And Congress will demand answers from people like Arrow.

Yeah. I don't think it ends. I don't think this ends here. I just think this is a way of rallying public support around it. Again, that doesn't mean I believe it's extraterrestrials that we're engaging with or we're back engineering extraterrestrial craft. I just think there's something going to come at the end of this. I mean, we talk about religion there.

I mean, maybe this is it. maybe this is the like the prelude to the great deception. Mm-hmm. And I think you're totally right about that as far as people are going to demand more answers to the questions we have, the more that this is going on. And Congress is already demanding answers. Even Matt Gates in America, they have these closed sessions saying, we want to know the truth. Ollie, what do you think in, how is that happening in England?

Do you, is the same thing kind of happening there that is happening? happening in the US? No, absolutely not. So in England, it's like it is a thing. As Brits, we go to the pub, but you wouldn't go to the pub and catch a conversation about disclosure and UFOs. You've got to the wrong pubs.

Yeah, you're going into the wrong pubs for a step. But it's something we've always said on alien addicts. is it seems right now that there is a mission on to get people's next door neighbors, people's moms and dads, people's grandparents, believing in extraterrestrials and aliens and asking the questions. So it's so confusing now when you think, is it the government that want, is it what, okay, is it the deep state, whatever, that wants this to come out, somehow for some agenda

but then why is the Pentagon denying it it as something happened where the chess pieces are not in the right place yet yeah where they have to go the where they have to reverse a little bit is it did they think

that they had it on plan and something's knocked it kind of off its access yeah yeah that's true and by the way because it because it because you're... Are you there?

What? Go ahead. Allie. What were you saying? Oh, no. I broke up then. It feels like something's not this back. And they've had to change,

they've changed the mind because it really started to ramp up from 2017. And like last year was huge. But now it's like they're trying to bring it back. It's so confusing for people. So my question is, to your audience, is, if you're into conspiracy, why on earth would you trust any higher-ups? Why would you?

Because we've never done that in the past. Conspiracy theories have never trust the government. They've never trust the pensions. They do not trust people like that. But all of a sudden, unless if it's military, that we see in footage that we see and we can trust that. Okay. And, you know, look at this.

This has legs because the government's released. The government's approved this. But at the same time, if the government's saying it doesn't exist, I'd say do the complete opposite. Yeah. Which, by the way, just to point this out, the government technically is, it seems, at least, to be doing everything to fight this narrative of UFOs.

So although it sounds, which I mean, you know, in hindsight, right, maybe they're doing this through a backdoor way through media to where they want the media to start disclosing, although they're trying to act like they are so against the disclosure that is also the possibility. So I get Ollie's point on both sides of that 100%. Like anything the government or media says, go the opposite way. Yeah, go the opposite way and then you're going to be right. Yeah, probably.

So going there, Dave, being in and, you know, in America, what do you feel about how they're having these closed doors meetings with Congress? Skiffs. Skiffs. And they're not telling the public. And what's going on in these skiffs? I feel like what's going on in these skiffs or they're showing them pictures from various islands or hotel rooms they've been to. And so this is what you're going to play.

This is what you're going to say. This is what you're going to do. Don't question me. Yeah. And I don't think it's the government. The government, the perfect lie is a half truth. So what did they say? It's not extraterrestrial, extraterrestrial.

Yeah. Well, if something was already from here, it would be terrestrial, right? Mm-hmm. So they're not lying. Yeah. You know, they're just being very cognizant of what they say. Well, what if it's something terrestrial that is not human? Maybe it is human.

Yeah, maybe it's, that's something that always goes through my mind. Like, we see the video of it, these things going in and out of the oceans, Unidentified underwater objects are regularly reported. You have the anomalous objects off Catalina, right? We have all these different things out there that are, we know allegedly more about the surface of the moon than we do the bottom of the ocean. Yeah. What if part of a population from 250,000 years ago survived a calamity?

But it was only like, think about it right now. our government has bunkers that we know of. We're not even going to talk about the deep ones. Just like Cheyenne Mountain. We have all these other places. My wife and I stayed at one for a thing for her work. And I believe it was in North Carolina. It was an old hotel.

But it was also a backup White House. It was buffered for nuclear war. You know what I mean? And then when it ran out of its time, then they can like talk about it. They have these locations. I mean, Denver Airport, the amount of material that was moved buildings

that were buried tunnels that were put in. Right. They have things. up for their quote unquote important people the geriatric elite um how there we're going to repopulate the world life who knows um but that's who there so why would it be any different 250,000 years ago they know there's a meteor coming they know something's going to happen the people in charge of the end hid everyone else wiped out it was difficult you know they come out of the ground 150 years later everybody's stone age you know things are just myths and stories people are

just trying to survive and they're like hey Let's just stay down here. Let's stay under the water. And let's just live our life. We didn't like all those eaters and consumers anyway. Let's live separately. Kind of like people buying up entire islands and building underground volcano bases. And they've already broken away.

Yeah. And for government reports to be taken seriously for me, it can't come from journalists. Yeah. I trust no mainstream journalists since Operation Mockingbird. No, I agree. Yeah. And we are in a far, we are in a far advanced version of Operation Mark and Berg now. Yes.

Yeah. So you take that into account. Then what are they saying? Well, they're just trying to. And I agree with this. They're trying to stir up. They want the public to start asking the right questions so they can let their bought and paid for journalists loose on the right questions.

Yeah. The questions where they can spend a narrative. Because here's the thing I think is the truth. I think it is easier for them to admit or to fabricate. men, little green men from, you know, Zeta reticula, then it is for them to say, hey, we're like the ninth iteration of civilization on this planet. We found technology that we didn't know could possibly exist, unbelievably advanced structures.

We know there's cities and these people have, that look just like us, have decided to not participate with us. Or maybe here's the scary fact. Maybe they do. No, that's true. So you're kind of almost saying that we have advanced. ancestry.

Yeah. That would be instead of like these aliens from different places around the world, maybe it's just our advanced ancestry, our advanced people from the past. Yeah. Yes. Yes. That's kind of what I'm going to. And then when you get to the other phenomenon that's involved, right, who's to say that

isn't just a natural phenomenon of this world? Yeah. You're right. And by the way, I got to make a point to this too. And we're going to get into one other thing as well after this. But we got to remember that, you know, Nazi Germany and NASA, by the way, was created. NASA was created from Nazi scientists. We went over and recruited them.

We were in a battle between the Soviet Union and the United States. And we were going to see who could recruit the most amount of Nazi scientists to create our space program or our space program. NASA, right? And so that originally, I guess, heavily involved Birmingham, Alabama. That was a huge place where they sent, you know, Warner Vran and some of these other Nazi scientists over. But for some reason, whatever Germany and how much technology and information they had was far ahead of their time in World War II. I mean, we're talking about... Well, you just even think about the Holocaust. how they were putting Jews in the books.

I mean, it was through, I think, IBM pretty much. Yeah, absolutely. They already had some kind of database going way back then. Yeah, IBM. If you're Jewish or you're not Jewish. IBM was the one that created the system to help the Nazi, you know, Hitler regime find out who was Jews and who were not. IBM was the one that created.

IBM is still very much alive today in our world today. and then you think about NASA we were created by Nazi Germany and I often think about this as well it's like wasn't it convenient I mean this is a whole other conspiracy on its own but wasn't it convenient that Hitler

wanted to kill all these Jews and then we just basically recruited all their top people which was highly advanced and far beyond apparently obviously what Soviet Union or the United States was at the time and we recruit

I mean, that's how we got our space program. That is literally how we got a lot of our advanced technology that we have today. That's from Germany. It was from Germany in a Nazi regime. And I just find it very convenient how that happened. And then we went and recruited them. Let me get into this with you guys. We were talking a little bit about, you know, what would be the government's drive or narrative behind this?

We've done a podcast on Project Blue Beam. And I don't know if you guys have ever talked about it. But it's essentially, I guess, a theory that emerged in the 1990s. and it was primarily attributed to this Canadian investigative journalist, I think it was named was Serge Mondstadt or Monast or something like that. And the theory claims that the United Nations and NASA are working together on a secret project to essentially create a new world order on a new global religion, often referred to as the New Age religion.

And according to the theory, the project would use advanced holographic technology to create a fake alien invasion, religious figures, or other supernatural events to deceive and manipulate the public. And the ultimate goal was to, I guess, establish a totalitarian one-world government and eliminate traditional religions, national identities, and family structures. But do you think that is at all even possible that we are trying to create an alien invasion, either for the purpose of creating a structure of a... Like a one world, yeah, a one world government.

A fake alien invasion? Yeah, one world government to where they can make the people believe that there is a God on this earth and then this person is going to be able to control those. Or could they be creating something they're trying to deceive away from God? Ollie, we'll go to you. Well, I'll go back to what Dave was saying about that it's strange that all of a sort of Bobbazar comes out with that these things were from an archaeological dig. and it's funny you mention Roswell because one of my theories with Roswell and I've got a good friend that comes on the show now again

called Nazi Nick well it's Cosmic Twilight back on Nazi Nick I believe whatever crashed in Roswell was a Nazi flying saucer and that was after that was

that was 1947 and it's It's so crazy how they, the military, they put it out. We've got a flying saucer in our position. The next day they redacted that. And I think the reason why they did is because they realized what they had the hands on was it was Nazi tech. Yeah. Now, that doesn't mean to say I don't believe in aliens.

But if you look back at Nazi history, they all went to Antarctica. They sent loads and loads of soldiers to Antarctica. What did they go for? Now, I know you mentioned Bluebeam, but I think this is all linked. I think whatever they're trying to cover up is something that we've had for a long time.

And if they do want to fool us with anything and make us look in the opposite direction, then isn't Blue Bean already happened? does it need to be something that we see in the sky or does it just need to be an idea? Blue being could just be an idea. Does that make sense? It doesn't have to be something that we physically see. Yeah.

Yeah, because I mean, think about, but think about how many people are questioning, I mean, even what we talked about earlier, people are questioning religion, God, everything they knew, everything they thought, right? And so is it going to be more easy to deceive people when they are more confused, right? that could be Project Bluebeam in a whole. Lee, what's your thoughts? We spoke about Project Bluebeam quite a lot. And I think that it's always been like an interesting thing.

But more so right now, it feels, I wouldn't say more probable, but definitely more possible. Because if you think about Project Blue Beam a few years ago, like when people would be watching YouTube videos about it and stuff like that. It was always like an American government thing. Would the American government try and feel the world? And it was always very Western-centric. We have now, or at least I think we do, in the World Economic Forum,

a body which is ultranational, which has its fingers in governments all over the world, that seems to want to enact some sort of new social dynamic over the entire planet, or at least, we'll say at least at least the Western world. Maybe it doesn't need to bother so much with some of the countries that might not have, like, the freedom that the West enjoys because they're halfway there anyway.

So that's, if you believe that you have someone that wants to do that sort of thing. That's halfway there towards Blue Bean because you at least have a perpetrator. So now you've got, now you've got someone. So if that technology exists and these people are doing everything they can and their power to enact this type of thing,

then why wouldn't Project Blue Bean be a thing? I think that's kind of what I was alluding to before when I said ever since 2017, I've felt this has had sort of, some sort of end game to it. Yeah. It also made me question the idea, the idea whether like things that have happened over the last few years

could have even been like small tests. Yeah. For Project Blue Beam, I think COVID would have been a great test for how they would manage the media in order to get a, like a constant global narrative on all news networks and see how people would react to But if you want to look at some of the theories of the Twin Towers, the no plane theory would be a really good test for a Project Blue Bean, like kinetic style attack.

Yeah. So, at this point, I have very little doubt left. You know, most things, if something was to turn out to be true, I'd go, yeah, yeah, I probably can. see why the see how we got here yeah you're right and and that's scary though i mean is and i think that's the i think that's what's scary about the world today is that is the fact that someone could say is the craziest shit and you'd be like yeah i mean that makes sense unfortunately right but getting back to dave's opinion about ancient civilizations i guess and maybe we have ancient

civilizations that are still under the ocean dave what's your thought about the hollow earth do you have a thought about that or have you ever thought about that? Because a lot of people say that the hollow earth has to do with being under the ocean and you go under the ocean into the middle of the earth. And it's supposedly like all this vegetation and forest and areas like that. And it goes back to Ollie's point a little bit with Antarctica. Yeah. So what do you think about that day?

With Germany. I think like I said, like my wife loves to say, say I never found a conspiracy. I didn't. I didn't like. Yeah, I'm familiar with the hollow earth. And it does intrigue me when you think like the deepest we've ever been is eight miles, allegedly. The Russians claim whether they're lying or not, who knows. And it's interesting with the Nazis going down.

So you mentioned paperclip earlier. One of the things to think about with paperclip is they always loved to say 1600 scientists was in that first wave. Truth is 600 scientists were in the first wave. And it was 1,000 of the SS members that were. part of their intelligence and propaganda corps. Yeah. That got moved into the OSS, which then promptly became the CIA. Yep.

That's true. So the foundations of our CIA is built by war crime escaping Nazis. That is absolutely true. 100%. And when you look at what happened to Kennedy, the Nazis, at that time, would have been in charge of the CIA to make those calls. That is a very, very, sorry, I'm not interrupting you, but yes, absolutely. It's a great point.

I was literally just reading about this the other day. And I was like, damn. But yeah, go ahead, Dave. Yeah. So, you know, you got to take into account that. I think that that's very critical when we start to weigh the rest of this. Could something be in Hollow Earth? I have no idea with the Earth's made up.

I mean, that seems as realistic to me as anything. What I tend to go with is, again, so we're going to talk about Nazis. They were way into the occult. Their occult director sent Nazis all over the planet digging things up. And all of a sudden they're making technological advances. They were also practicing hardcore sacrifice blood ritual magic that we see repeated in all great buildings of civilizations around the world. Something everybody partook in. So it makes you wonder what's going on there?

What are they talking to? What are they paying for? And it's a good question. How did the Nazis? Were there scientists just that good? And hey, by the way, let me cut you off here. Does that kind of make you think about, you know, when people talk about people that are. highly successful, especially celebrities, like big celebrities.

You think about Beyonce, Illuminati, Jay-Z, all these actors that supposedly do these rituals and these, I mean, look, there's some kind of decent evidence with celebrities that essentially maybe sell their soul to the devil or Satan. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you have spirit cooking with Marina Abramovich, right? Right, right. Marina Abramovich.

You have these things throughout his, like, so here's, you. Here's fun, right? So we're talking about aliens to keep it somewhat on point with that. What if, what if these creatures, wherever they're from, whatever they are, maybe they meet the descriptions of land, maybe those ones that are taking people in the night, we hear a lot about grays, right? Maybe those are some kind of Nephilim, fallen, hybrid, whatever. But whatever's wrong with them doesn't allow them to replicate properly. Yeah. Right? So one of the things like Crowley was big on, a lot of the occult people, they're big.

big into sex magic. Yeah. And if you've ever had children, right? One of the magical things of when you're with someone is, we all known as adults, you know,

in case you have kids get them out of here. There's, there's something spiritual to there, right? If you're doing it right, anyway. Yeah. There's a connection. And then life is made. And this thing that's created has a soul.

What an amazing thing. You took a piece of your energy. and your partner's energy and you made something new. And you made a combined energy, which is also very interesting. Yes. Something unique. Yeah. Right? Something unique that isn't of anything else.

It's of its own. What if these other things can't do that? When we hear about abductions, we hear about them going for. It's always with reproduction, right? Yeah. It's always about reproductions. Always about reproduction. It makes me think that they're interested in the magic of humans.

Yeah. that were some kind of magical creature to them that can create things with souls in them. And so when I look at that and they allegedly have technology or ships, and I'm not saying like extraterrestrials, I'm still not saying. I'm saying something from a different dimension or a different plane of being has some form of higher technology that allows them to cross over and see what we're doing. And they're just mystified by us. Yeah. You know, one thing we know is, or at least not no, but something we hear a lot from Tucker Carl's from all.

those other people from and if you've been in a conspiracy and the way back, it's not anything new, that there's lower dimensional beings that thrive on negative and evil and they want sacrifice and they want pain and they want blood. Well, the Nazis delivered that in full. Yeah.

And, you know, I'm not saying correlation equals causality, but the correlation would be their technology was wildly advanced. Yeah, exactly. All right. So we can just set that there. Let's look at the discovery of DNA. Yeah.

So are they being rewarded? But keep going. There's the question. So if you look at the discovery of DNA, one of the men who discovered DNA, he tried to tell people again and again. He's like, no, I had visions and it appeared to me and it was told to me that that's how this works. And he won a Nobel Prize.

Everyone ignored how he said he came across. They're like, oh, he's just so brilliant and unique. Science. It came to. We're going to. Hashtag science. Yeah, hashtag science. And there's, there's many, many, many examples of that in hardcore science.

So it's, you know, where does the magic and occult begin? Where does science and Nazis end? I don't know. Or our modern system. Like, I mean, you think about it. The brilliance of the Nazis is when they came here and we had them in our intelligence services. Shortly thereafter, late 60s, early 70s, when these older Nazis were retiring, they went off and started private intelligence companies like Booz Allen Hamilton.

He now handles the bulk of the intelligence work in the world for multiple countries. And that was the brilliance. They got all these other countries to come and sublet through them. They control the information. They control the flow of data. They can control who we're going to war with, when we're going to war with, what this is like, we're not in control of anything. So why is the demons are in control? Yeah.

So why is Germany not in control today then? If they had all this power back then, I guess it was the collapse of the- Well, it always fails. I mean, Hitler, I don't know. Well, if you go back to biblical. Did they lose? Well, yeah, they, I don't know. I mean, not necessarily because now they're really controlling a lot of the world,

especially United States, if you really think about it. Yeah. And then see, that's the problem is, and I think in our idea, in our modern mindset, we think of countries, nations, Germany lost. Right. Yes, the country of Germany lost. Did the Nazi party lose? Did that core ideology of supremacy lose?

No. No. It was exported. Yeah. You're the most brilliant minds capable who ceded science and government and modern and, you know, modern intelligence agencies all over the Western world. Yeah. Wow. Holy shit.

That's deep. That's a, yeah. That's like so true. I mean, that is a fact. That is really what's happening. That is an amazing take. And to that point, what do you guys, okay. So to the devil talk, right?

You have people like Ryan Garcia and I think a lot of people, I think a lot of people right now in this world that are genuinely good people. And I have no idea who Ryan Garcia is a person. But I have to mention him because the reason I mention him is because I followed Ryan Garcia for a while. We've talked about him on a podcast a couple of times. But he's highly religious and blizzard and Jesus and all that stuff. But there's something that has drastically changed. in this guy the past month. And some people may say drugs.

Some people may say something else. He said he's willing to go in front of Congress. Recently, by the way, he came out against Logan Paul, KSI, and Mike Maylack for being Satan and basically working on behalf of the devil. He thinks, I think what he's kind of saying there is that you've sold your soul to the devil and you are helping these companies and these platforms, these people push these agendas on our youth. I mean, you think about all the things that are being pushed on our youth today with media and all this stuff. This is all devil shit. I will go to Ali here. Do you do you think, I mean,

holy shit, Dave. That was very deep. I'm sorry. I'm still, I'm still thinking. You're still processing. I'm still reeling, which is absolutely. I'm so glad you brought all that stuff up because that's very, very true. Ollie, do you do think that with all of what Dave just said, and and I agree wholeheartedly, by the way, I think that, I think all of our issues right now, regardless of whether you think aliens are real or not, I think, I think at the very least that spiritual beings are real. And in the Bible, it talks about that the spiritual beings you will see if you are, if you are one of those people that believe wholeheartedly in the Bible and what God says and what

and what the Bible says and prophets say, it says that the spirits that you will see on earth are devils or demons. but also in the Bible it also talks about you will see signs from the heavens which you know according to the Bible that would technically mean the sky um towards the end time so it doesn't necessarily clarify in that statement whether those are yeah say heavens is heaven yeah but but it doesn't clarify whether that's angels or demons I mean it doesn't clarify that but Ollie what is your thought and I have no idea what your religion or spirituality is But with all of that said, right, if you're rewarded on earth for being demonic or Satanist, right?

And you sell your soul. I mean, it talks about that in the Bible. If you go with the world, you will be rewarded on earth. But when I come back and when I reign hell on everything that you sold yourself for, do you think that good has a chance of defeating evil with everything that we've just talked about? Always, like, I get to bounce the hell out of this. I was a mute. No, no, no, you're going. Like Lee said before,

quite a few years ago, I would have considered myself kind of atheist. Yeah. And both Dave and Lee's eyes are going to roll here, but I started to see the number 33 show up in everything. And I still see it every day. And I have no idea.

It could be coincidence. You see right again? 33, 33. Yeah, you see that. Yes, I see them too. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. Well, the number 33 is actually in our alien, the intro as well.

I put it in there. It pops up for like split second because I had to put it in that. It just felt like I had to put in there. I interviewed a globe denier. I called him a flat earther and he corrected me on that he said do you mind changing the title of the video this was years back and he was an interesting chap

He was a little bit out there He didn't like him At all but you know he didn't like him at all But We had a conversation after the show And I got into Me seeing the number 33 And he said you know why you're seeing it

I think I have no idea. He says, what's the age? Jesus died? And I'm like, what? And I didn't even know that, because I'm not a religious person at all. Yeah. But I then went and kept seeing this number over and over again,

and my grandmother passed away. And we was around at my grandma's house, and they've got the classic, like, grandfather. the clock on the wall, the wooden clock, and it had stopped. And my granddad was the only person that used to wind it up. And it had stopped on 633. And I just said to my grandma, I said, this stopped when granddad died. And she said, no, but it stopped when his dementia got that bad that he couldn't do anything.

He didn't know how to do it anymore. And I just sat down, I just sat down at the. dinner table with my father. And I said, Dad, this is really weird, right? I just keep seeing this number 33 over and over again. And as I'm telling him this, I look at his polo neck, like gold t-shirt. And he has the number 33 just here. Well, I'm pointing at my top, but he had a little 33 just on his t-shirt.

And I'm just like, what is going on with this? So that's kind of like being my spiritual thing with this. I have no idea, but I keep seeing this over and over again. I see it in UFO content. I see when somebody, I saw it a lot during COVID on the TV, when people tell you how many people would die.

It'd be like 33, 33, this, 33, that. It just came up all the time. I have no idea what it means, but I see this number far too much for it just to be coincidence. So I believe there's something there, whether it's the aliens trying to tell me something or it's God. I don't. I'm very confused with it. Hey, let me tell you, Ali, by the way, number 33, if you think about it, numerology, 33 is considered a master number, which means it's a higher spiritual vibration. In Christianity, 33 is significant as it is believing.

to be the age of Jesus Christ when he was crucified and resurrected. Freemasonry, the 33rd degrees, the highest rank one can attain the Scottish right. The Tibetan Book of the Dead mentions 33 heavens ruled by Indra and 33 ruled by Mara. In the science of numbers, numerology 33 is considered a powerful number with spiritual significance. It is often associated with the concept of master teacher, which suggests that those with this number in their numerology chart are here to teach others and help them grow spiritually. In the Kabbalah, the tree of life is often depicted as having 32 paths with the 33th path representing the concept of the divine spark of the connection between the physical

and spiritual realms. In astrology, 33 is associated with a sign of Pisces, which is considered to be a highly intuitive and spiritual sign. You're not Pisces, are you, Ali? No, I'm Sagittarius. Okay, okay. I am. I am Pisces.

But also the number three reminds me of there are three sides of a triangle. And that goes right into this UIP UFO thing because normally it has to do with triangles, which is three-sided. Yeah, absolutely. And Ollie, to me it sounds like a definite sign to you. Like that was just blaring in your face. Yeah, that kind of, it knocks me off track with the whole nuts and balls craft. and more into the angels and demons. Absolutely.

You know, I, when I went to, when we went to America and we spent some time with Dave, Lee got ill. On the last night before we left, Dave promised we'd see UFOs. We saw loads of UFOs. Oh, wow. So I know, I know they're there. How did you guys see loads of UFOs? What did you do?

Dave. Dave? That's classified. Did you? Well, you said, you said, you said, Lee got ill. Did he diarrhea 33 times? And then you saw all these UFOs? He was suffering from a paranormal flu.

We went ghost hunting. By the way, that's called Long COVID. Were you guys with Stephen, were you with Stephen Greer? Yeah, maybe. Maybe you weren't Dr. Better than Stephen Greer. Wow. I mean, I think that's a sign, though, Ollie.

I mean, I don't know, but I mean, the number 33 is significant. Shear and I have been having a phenomenon with like three numbers. Yeah. It's either four four, three, three, two, two, two, all that time. One, one, one. It's crazy. It's 24-7. And I see one more one.

Yeah, it's 24-7. And I even see six at six and I hate seeing that. Yeah, I hate seeing it too. Lee, what is your thoughts on? What is your thoughts on this, Lee? Um, I mean, we, we live in a world now where, um, um, we we call like childhood mutilation health care. Yeah,

now if there isn't a, if there isn't a, a finer example of some sort of demonic presence over people, I don't know what you want. Joe, Jeremy, I don't, I don't know what else. I don't know where else we could go where things could be quite as bad as that.

And, back to the UFO thing, you know, it's the, I mean, maybe this is, maybe this is what these people have been trying to conjure up for like all this time, you know, maybe, maybe the occult rituals that are going on, the stuff that's going on in CERN, maybe we're headed towards this thing that is, it's not going to be like a Project Blue Beam thing and it is actually going to be, we're going to like open the gates of fucking hell or something like that. Let me go further with that as far as what you think is going on. Do you think that we are changing the weather and changing all the things with CERN? I mean, I think we're changing everything, really. I mean, I think we're playing God in a lot of ways. And I think God is starting to get pissed. Does that make sense, guys?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I mean, it's also what like what a, what a. what a great way to like to mess people around you know if you if if if you change the weather patterns on people I mean I don't know if you guys have ever looked into the conspiracies to why we still like we've just gone through daylight savings time and there's there's a massive spike in heart attacks that happen not not just since the the arm spear but there's a massive spike in heart attacks that happens every year when we do like daylight savings time like it's you know it's it's it's something we do that's unnecessarily it's unnecessary it's something that discombobulates

people and it there does seem to be a concerted effort to confuse people more and more to like to interject in their lives to to have us waste ourselves to be perfectly honest disrupt just waste time yeah Why do you think there's more heart attacks during the daylight saving? Because I'm just going to say myself, we've been in daylight saving in America since Sunday. And I feel like I'm going to fall over right now. Just saying. I don't know. I mean, I would take it as an absolute guess.

I would take it's just extra stress that you're putting on your body. You know, so if you, I don't think it's like athletes that are all of a sudden collapsing because of daylight saving this time. But if you are somebody that's not very well and you're headed towards the end of life, then I can see why having to get up and do things and move around at different times today and having your sleep patterns messed around

can put more strain on your body. Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. So, you know, this has been a very, very interesting conversation. And I want to get one last thought from you guys because it's interesting. I love having you guys on and I really do admire you guys and appreciate your conversation. I think our listeners will love you guys as well. And you guys offer very different perspectives.

But you know what the thing I've come to here in this episode is that we went from UFOs. We went from Dave Grush. We went from Aero and, you know, aliens and interdimensional. We went from Satanism and you name it. But it's like, what is the major consensus here? I mean, I feel like there is, if you want to really get to the nuts and bolts, potentially, I mean, we're not experts. We don't know this. But it seems like a spiritual.

Wait a minute. I am a UFO expert, by the way. Oh, yeah, okay. But it seems like a spiritual battle. I mean, it feels like a spiritual battle. And it feels like if the government may be hiding anything is either one of two things. I think it maybe is advanced tech, but where did they get it from? But I, over seven years of being highly confused, and I'm sure our listeners are back and forth

with us all the time. I mean, because I will constantly say my thoughts on every single occasion on the podcast. I don't just go with a narrative because that's what I said the last episode. As my feelings and thoughts change, I will tell everyone in the world. My thoughts are changing. Right. And your thoughts do change. on podcasts we do.

Yeah, and they do and research and just the way I move throughout the day and the way I feel. But these alien addict guys have made me rethink my thought process in a bit. Well, it does because I think, I mean, personally, I think in some ways everybody's going back to spirituality. And I think it's at the very least as good versus evil maybe. and you know, Ali said, hey, here's,

here's all this stuff I had to experience with. I guess you didn't really used to believe in God. Maybe you don't now. I don't know, but I feel like the signs. I feel like a lot of stuff

that Dave said was highly relevant to this entire conversation. As well as Lee. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, Lee as well talking about,

you know, if you see what's going on in the world today, if you don't think that's evil, then I don't know what you think. Guys, one last thing from each of you. Dave,

we'll start with you. What do you think? What? God, I want to say this. I mean, this is going to sound so weird. I'm asking this. But what do you think happens when you die? I, that is a good question.

You know, like, he's like, what the hell? Why did you have with this? No, no, no, no. You turn into an alien. That's what happens. I don't think. I don't, I don't, I think that's a yes. and no.

If you would have asked me this a couple months ago, I would have said that we go somewhere else. You go somewhere good. You go somewhere bad. This is a training ground. Maybe you have to go through this training ground again. I don't know. Now I had an experience that changed that for me.

And now I think, first to clarify, we're not physical beings, right? Like this is an avatar. You are a soul. You have a body. Right? Like your biological mechanism, your brain's really just what I believe to be an antenna that's receiving you.

Right. That you can plug into and play. You're a modem. Exactly. And that's why you've got to have downtime, right? Even now and then you got to, you know, turn your computer on or off. Yeah. So I get that out of the way.

I think. And this is something new. And I am. And I agree with you. I'm very much like you guys. When I get new information and new things happen, my opinions and everything change. I can definitely be swayed. I can be proven wrong.

I can be, you know, this makes more sense. Okay. For me, right now, I am in the middle of a bit of a crisis of trying to figure things out. Me too. And I can give you the broad strokes of I think every soul not so much is different, but maybe there's different groups of souls from different places. I'm not talking worlds, maybe dimensions, realities, heavens. I don't know.

Like parallel planets almost? Yeah, but different thought processes or spiritual process. Yeah, it's like what is the nature of your existence here, right? It's obviously not everyone has the same one. Like, what's the meaning of life? It's different to every person. You know, I truly believe my life is a reward. So I treat it as such.

I sit back and I enjoy every moment. And I had an experience that fundamentally altered my perceptions of things that I believed were solid. So what happens when you die, I think it's different. I think what happens when I die is I will go back to a place that I've been before. And I'm going to be there with a community of people who are waiting on me. And I'm going to tell them the stories of this life. I'm going to tell them about my wife and my kids and Ollie and Lee and you guys and my experiences. and my adventures,

and they're all waiting to hear the stories. They're looking forward to that return. Yeah. That's like sitting around. That happens for everyone else. I don't know. Ollie? I'm very confused with it.

I will be perfectly honest with you because I've flipped off with this for a long time to the point where it has sent me insane. The sleepless nights, like thinking, because don't get me wrong I would much prefer there to be a

life after a death you know sitting a nice floaty floaty cloud but there's something that my dad used to say to me that

when we used to go we used to walk the dog a lot when I was younger and he used to say what if there is only you and I said what do you mean by that dad he said

but what if your God and you've made everybody else up. And it really stuck with me that. And that sounds really selfish. Because that sounds like it's me saying that none of you guys are real and it's just me. Lee and Dave, my best friends, they don't exist. It's just me. But that was something that my dad used to constantly say to me.

But it does. It does kind of make sense, though. He said, he used to say it all the time. He's, what if it is just you? You've made everybody else up. But then he also, he told me a story. And he said, I mean, he still says it to this day.

I'll tell you the Ampogachia theory. I go, no, Doug, what's that? And he'd go, well, they were this girl at school. And she was doing, you know, you do a hot scotch. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she was doing that. And he said to his friend, he went, she's going to fall over and she's going to

bust the nose on the next one. And sure enough she did. And he guessed that. So my dad's theory is that when you die, you just have to live it all over again. Yeah. That makes sense.

I've heard that. The same life. And I get a lot of deja vu. So I know the question is to me, not my father, but I get so many deja vu. I wonder sometimes, and a bit like when Dave just said,

like that this life is a test, maybe you've got to get this life right before you can move on. Do whatever you, yeah. Do aliens exist in that? Maybe they do. Maybe they've got to, maybe they're in the same boat that we are.

You know? Because like there's stories of aliens being interviewed and apparently they're not scared of death because they know what's after that. Yeah. But yeah, I hope I don't have to lick this all over again, you know. Some bits are good, but there's a lot of heartache as well.

For sure. I'm ready for the next thing. For sure. Absolutely. I agree. Ollie, let's hear it. Ollie knows the answer, by the way, I think. So the only one we've got left is Lee.

Lee, what do you think about it? Oh, Lee. Sorry, my bad. Shit. Lee. Okay. Everything about it is to learn, right? From the minute we're born, you know, to the,

we're learning sights and sounds and we're learning to walk, it makes, it doesn't make sense to me that as animals that just are just here to learn, that eventually it stops and then that knowledge doesn't go out on anywhere. I think anyone that's had any sort of psychedelic experiences, I think it must be real tough to reconcile that with yourself. If you try and tell yourself that we're just a physical being, we're just, we're here for a short time, not a long time, in and out, and we're gone.

If you've had any deep, like profound psychedelic experiences, I don't understand how you can continue to think that there isn't something else to us. I can't remember what this, what the math like equation is now. I will find out so I can say on our podcast. But I went with a guy for a short time called Alan. I was a really good guy like hyper awake type guy. Like it didn't seem to be anything he didn't know about like family bloodlines

and all that sort of stuff. But it was like spending eight hours a day with David Ike sometimes. Yeah. And he said if he heard about like the soul age thing. And this kind of goes with what Ollie was saying about reliving life, but it not being the same every time. And he was, there's a way you can break down. It's like your birth year and your name.

And there's an equation you do. And it gives you a soul age or it's what it's supposed to give you a soul age. Or it's what it's supposed to give you a soul age. and he had a really advanced soul age that to me, like when he explained it and then when we worked mine out and mine was sort of middle, middle to approach and hire. And then obviously I did it to a few of my friends that I knew.

I did it with people that are like super, my father as well, like super. like awake or people that are just like in full, full normie town. Right. And it tracked really well. Like if you had somebody that was like completely asleep and like watch CNN every day, they had a really young soul age. And then from people that were into like alternative thinking and stuff, stuff like that, it seemed to track and have some sort of validity to it.

And I'd never really thought about reincarnation until that. But the idea that we've just got to keep doing this and keep going around until our souls have grown up and we can go and do something else. I don't know if I believe it, but it kind of makes some sense. Yeah, it does. And Lincoln, is there like a mathematical formula, how you can figure out your soul age? I will message Alan and I will get him to write it down to me and I'll send it to you guys. Okay, that would be great because I would like to know that too. Because talking about reincarnation, that's what my mom's all about.

She's like Sherry. And it was going back to, I think, what Ollie was saying or maybe Dave, about the, you know, deja vu, where you have deja vu's. I've experienced this. Or I remember being back in this time. I remember wearing this outfit or doing these things. Mandela effect, too. And then I don't think it's Mandela.

I think it could be just deja vu where you're like, oh, my gosh, I remember being at this point when I think. about this point and I remember being in a different time. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. Guys, you know what? I got to say this. I think this has been an amazing episode. And you know what? We've talked about religion. We talked about aliens. We've talked about all that stuff. But the one thing I do know is that if God exists and he's a loving God and he believes that God and by the way, I do believe God exists. So let me make sure I tell everyone that. I do believe God exists.

I do believe that in my opinion that God is going to be the deciding factor of where your soul goes. I also very much respect to you guys. Yeah, but that's not all religions. Absolutely. You're right. Yeah. You're right. I 100% respect your opinions.

But I guess my point here is, and this was something I've always said, I had an uncle that did not believe in God whatsoever. He died in a motorcycle accident. And he was the best guy I've ever known in my life. Did not believe in God. and I always asked myself or told myself or thought to myself like if this guy is not getting into a heaven that I have always been taught that the only way you get into this heaven is this way and this guy doesn't get in holy shit dude and like and I get in I mean this guy was this guy was a way better person than me on so many levels you're getting into religion right I know I know but but here's here's my here's my in thought um my end thought is that I think all of you guys leave and Ollie and Dave. I think you guys are amazing people. And I'm so glad we connected with you.

We connected actually through Ashton and we and all of this. And I encourage every single one of you of our listeners, every single one of you. They've got their audio episodes on Spotify. But you can find them everywhere, Apple, anywhere. Yeah, if you want to watch them, you can go to YouTube Alien Addict. I think they're on Rumble as well. Are you guys on Rumble? Yes, we are.

Oh, Spotify has video as well. So if you want to watch it so you can watch on. Okay. So you can watch it, listen to it, whichever what you want to do. I encourage all of you to go and check them out. We really, really highly regard these people. I think they're great guys. Deep thinkers.

Deep thinkers. Very honest. I mean, you guys heard them. And we don't try to, you know, that's the one thing about people. We just saw today, by the way. I don't know if you've seen this, but, you know, Patrick Bet David podcast brought on. he's signing, I guess, Chris Cuomo

onto his value valutainment network. And I spoke out about it because I said, why are you going to platform someone like this? And I know Ashton also posts something saying, you know, free speech is free speech. And I get it.

I 100% get that. But if we have, which we do have a pretty big platform, not as big as probably Patrick Bet, David. Not for long, though, because he's about to lose a lot of listeners. We're about to go to YouTube.

so we're about to, we're about to overtake that. But all I'm saying is I would never sign Chris Cuomo. All I'm saying is I would sign these guys, though. Like if we happen to be bigger than they were, or maybe they'll be, you know, who knows? They may be bigger than we are, but regards to the fact,

we hope do you guys go check them out. We love you guys so much. And your podcast, I watch them. They're very entertaining. I think that both of you guys and us, we brought something for each other. And I think that's right. And that's what people need to do is work together and help each other.

And I think that's what we both did. So thank you guys so much for being on our podcast. Yeah, absolutely. Is there anything you guys want to say before you go? I'm going to blow Ollie's mind slightly here because while he was doing his 33 chat. Yeah. I just did some quick maths. And I've got in touch with you when I was 33, Ollie.

Really? That's when we became friends. No way. Oh, my God. Oh, hey, dear. Literally just worked out. How long ago was that? How long ago was that?

2016 and I messaged, Ollie, about... Holy shit. Wow. So that wasn't like you were 33 last year. Ollie better remember the 33. Damn. Ollie, Ollie, there's a message coming to you, bro.

There's definitely a message for Ollie. Definitely a message there. Yeah. Dave, do you have any thoughts to? Oh, me? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'd say, be good to each other.

And don't trust the government. They're not your friend. Absolutely. Absolutely, guys. I agree with you. Well, guys, hang out for a few minutes. We're going to close us out. Guys, thank you so much all for listening to this podcast.

Go check out Alien Addict on Spotify or all your stream platforms. If you want to watch the video, you can do it on Spotify as well, but you can also do it on YouTube. Go check them out. The name of this song. by the way that we are about to close with as long as I don't screw this up in some way, shape, or form. Is so emotional by

Lovin Calibur. Love in Calibur, we always love him. He's like one of my favorites. Well, this is a girl to sing it for them in this song. But yeah, so emotional. Guys, till next time, peace out. Peace out, guys.