Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFO UAP Podcasts | UFOs, God, And The Bible with Bry

Episode Date: August 5, 2023

In this intriguing episode, we delve into the controversial intersection of UFOs, UAPs, and the Bible. We've received numerous questions and comments about whether these phenomena can coexist with the concept of God. Does the existence of UFOs challenge the reality of God, or could they be linked to demons or fallen angels? To shed light on these profound questions, we have invited Bry, a well-studied Christian and knowledgeable follower of Christ, to share her insights and explore this fascinating topic with us. Join us as we embark on a thought-provoking journey that aims to uncover potential connections between the unexplained and the divine. All of this and more on this episode of UFO UAP Podcasts | UFOs, God, And The Bible with Bry

Do you miss me at all? Do you think about the things we used to do? No, you couldn't stand tall. So why didn't you? Why didn't you call? So many years it's gone by. But I think about you, about you all the time. Looks like you're changing and all.

Hello and welcome to Investigators' podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife I'm looking at right now. Sherry. Hey guys. What's up? Welcome to the podcast. We're so glad you're here. This is going to be an amazing podcast.

I'm telling you. Bree is something special. Yeah, she's good. Yeah, we finally got Bree on the podcast, guys. We have been telling you we're going to have Bree on the podcast for several weeks. I think this is going to be a great podcast. Now, obviously you guys know, we cover UFO topic very often. And there's something we said in the last episode.

where we said that we would talk about the biblical side of UFOs, right? What are the connections between UFOs and the Bible? Some of you even reached out to us and said, I cannot believe that you guys are not talking about Nephlem or you're not talking about fallen angels. These things are demons. These things are, you know, whatever. You guys have reached out. We've heard you and that's why we brought Breon and we discussed it.

Now, I've had some opinions on this episode. I don't necessarily just 100% go with what Brea. said all the way through. I have questions. I mean, I think so many of us do, especially considering a fact, which is, by the way, this is one thing that we did not mention in this episode. But it seems like Christians are so hard trying to disprove aliens right now. Like, that is their main thing. There are websites across the internet with preachers, evangelist, everyone trying to disprove the existence of these things. They are trying their hardest to prove against UFOs.

And I just don't think that's the right approach. And I think that's because it's either science or religion, but I think Brie brings it and intermingles it together so fabulously. Yeah. And I think as Christians or as people that believe in God or whatever the case is, we have to look at this realistically. I understand that like if you've read the Bible your whole life, If you went to church, you've believed in, whatever you believed in.

We have to take what we know and what we believe and all those things. And we have to be open to at least accept potentially something new or at least add something new to our repertoire of knowledge. And I think that's what we're trying to do with cross-mingling UFOs and God. Because I think these two huge topics have to go together. I don't feel like there is a world or a universe. without God or UFOs, I think they can definitely coexist. And I think that probably you can't have one without the other.

Yeah, but the whole generation past us or before us, they've never believed that. It's either science or religion. There is no in between. And now I feel like we're getting in between where it all makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. And I think potentially even, you know, we have to think back to ancient times and, you know, the pyramids and some of the ancient civilizations potentially or whatever, you know, how much they studied and even coincided their pyramids,

whether it be just their own doing or potentially help from extraterrestrials or whatever the case is, all so much of ancient civilizations, the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Egyptians, all of these, they had so much to do with the sky, with space. and astronomy. And they knew so much about it. And I think there's definitely a connection. And there's a lot of things we talk about with Bree here. Because look, Bree is someone that is her entire life and everything that she does throughout the day coincides with what she believes that is that God or Jesus is wanting her to do or she or she's living through Jesus or God or whatever. And there's so many Christians like that. And listen, I'm a Christian. I don't necessarily,

I'm not the best Christian 100%, but I know that over the course of my life from going to church and as a young kid not really understanding anything to being a teenager and kind of rebellion against that because that was what I was supposed to believe. Then as you get older, you're investigating things and you start believing again and really the strongest you've ever believed. There's a lot of things that we talk about in this podcast where we're going to touch on and why we believe the things we do. and I think you guys will enjoy it.

Oh, absolutely. You're going to enjoy it. So, guys, without further ado, here's the interview with Bree. We're not going to waste any more time on this intro. But just so you know, thank you guys, by the way, for going to Apple and starting to rate us five stars because it's working. We've got to have a battle over there at Apple.

And anywhere, anywhere you can rate us. It's definitely working. So thank you. For those of you that are going over and rating us five stars, great job because there's a lot of people over there to hate us. They want to downrate us. It's either one or five stars. We appreciate each and every one of you rating us.

his five stars. And by the way, Chad's going to start saying G at the end of his I-N-G words. Oh, whatever. I saw one of this comments today. I don't even know what they're talking about. Well, like, striving or... Striving?

Yeah, you say striving. Striving. But they don't realize you are from the South, and that's the way the southern people talk. Whatever. It's all good. But guys, without further ado, here's Bree, and we will talk to you soon.

Peace out. Hello, everybody, and we are here with Bree. What is up, Bree? What's up? How are you doing? We're doing great. How are you doing? I'm fabulous.

Fabulous. Are you really fabulous or are you really fabulous? Well, it depends on what context you're really asking. Well, listen, for everyone that does not remember, Bree has been on this podcast a couple times, actually, where we talked about the Bible. We talked a little bit about the end times. We talked about a lot of the things that have been going on

in our current state of affairs in the world around us. And Bree has had a lot to say about that. And a lot of you had reached out to us after those podcast episodes and said, hey, when is Bree going to have another episode? When is she going to have her own podcast? We had discussed that back in a day. And so many of you, by the way, have been reaching out to us and asking,

when is this particular episode going to come out? So here it is. This is for you guys. So just to kind of preface this, now we have covered on this podcast many times over five, four or five years, the UFO topic. We've been very passionate about it. And as Bree and our husband and family are our friends, obviously some of these topics that we talk about is things that we talk about, you know, outside of the podcast as well. And so Bree has always been very knowledgeable with the Bible and, you know, the historical, I guess, content. Yeah, well, the historical context of the Bible and kind of even the Hebrews version and a lot of this other stuff.

And so I felt like it was important to bring Bree on on this episode because so many of you, some of you called us out and like, I can't believe you guys believe these are extraterrestrials from another planet. And they're not, they're this, they're fallen angels, they're Nephlin, they're any of these things. So I felt like Bree was probably the appropriate person to bring on, to discuss this with us. We're going to have an open conversation. not going to get too crazy as far as, you know, go too deep, right? But we just want to kind of reach the surface of how the UFOs and how potentially are they Nephlim? Are they fallen angels? Is there a connection there?

Are we seeing something from God or are we seeing something otherwise? And I actually think maybe Bree and I's opinions on this may differ, but we have to have this conversation to figure out at least for you guys to take and say, all right, well, this is what I believe based on this or whatever. We just want to have an open conversation. So, Bree, you guys have moved right now. You've moved away from us because you used to be our neighbors. And you guys moved out to the country, right?

You guys got, what, 28 acres? Yeah, 28 acres. And we're working that land as best as we can. And our nearest neighbor is, you know, far. Yeah, yeah. So how are you working the land? Like, what are you doing? Well, when we got here, there were like no gardens.

It was pretty, it's all sand where we live. And so when we got here, the first thing I did was, you know, develop a plan as to how we were going to grow, what we were going to grow and where. And then surprisingly, doing what I do as an herbal practitioner, I know plants. And surprisingly, this is the worst soil I've ever had, but I've had the best harvest ever. And it's crazy, right? And so we've just been, we've been working, I feel like, nonstop. And, you know, so we're just moving right along. I see you in a little cowgirl hat and cowgirl boots with like short blue jeans shorts, sweating.

Wow. Okay, that is hilarious that you say that right now as I sit here and look at my blue jeans shorts and my cowboy hats that are on my hooks. I just know you too well, I guess. Okay, but my boots, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not even going to lie, my boots belong to my mother. So I don't wear them out in the field. I wore my chin. I wear my timber ones. My field clothes for that because I ain't messing around. Mama don't play.

Mama don't play. All right, Brie, now let me ask you this. where did you're kind of, and we can make it brief, but have you always been a Christian? Have you always believed in the Bible? And what led you to that, I guess, is just to start with. Oh, that's, that's, I love how you profess, you know, we can make it brief. No, I have not always been a Christian. Well, let me rephrase that.

I grew up, you know, knowing about God, but not knowing that. We never went to church. We never, the closest we really ever got to talking about the Bible was when my mother would read us the littlest angel the night before Christmas, okay? And that would lead me to ask certain questions. And then we'd sing happy birthday to Jesus on Christmas. but I really never knew I didn't know any sort of stories out of the Bible let alone that there was a resurrection, right?

And so I went to church, I had this boyfriend and, you know, went to church with him and this guy walked up to me and he was like, and he read my life like a book. And my boss friend and I sat there just with our jobs on the floor and he's like the only way to get rid of it is up there at that altar and I was like okay yeah whatever you know well I did it because I kind of felt almost like a pure pressure not doing it because my best

friend was doing it and I was like all right well I guess I'll go too and there was a glimpse there that just had me I was like all right if you're real show me um and he did and I had lots of miracles that happened and lots of things. I'm not saying my life was easy. It definitely was not easy. But there were a lot of proofs there in my life that helped me along in my belief in my walk in Christianity. Fast forward into my adult life, you know, I'm 46 now and I have been a Christian for, geez, 27 years. I think almost 30 years. I don't even know.

How old am I now? Anyways. So as an adult, I was just sitting in a chair one day and I said, you know, I've had all these miracles and all these things that have happened. And God's really, you know, guided my life. But is this Jesus guy real? Did this really happen?

And then prophecy fell in my lap. And God was like, these are the things that you will know. that this is real and that Jesus was real. And then come to find out, it wasn't just the biblical sense of it. I was led to the archaeological sense of it and was able to find answers that are irrefutable regarding the science and the archaeological evidence behind it. So from that standpoint, everything just pretty much,

It was like everything, every question that I had was being answered. And all it did was make my faith more concrete and then make my desire for that knowledge more prominent, which ultimately led to wisdom and discernment for where we are today and what's going on in the world. And so I'm able to see, okay, I know what that is. I know where that's coming from. I know what that is. You know, and so that's basically the story in a nutshell. Yeah, we often...

Probably not quite as brief as you wanted it to be. No, that's great. No, that's great. And, you know, it's funny because Sharon and I have talked on this podcast many times about, you know, really, I've had more faith. Now, I grew up similar to you. I went to a church, you know, it was just like, okay, I'm here. I'm here because my mom makes me go here, partly because my mom was trying to escape. my dad, at least on Sundays, from like nine until one o'clock.

And so I was always made to go. And I went and got baptized and we got saved, although I really didn't truly get saved then. I mean, I hate to say this, but saved is in your heart, not by something you say. Although I got baptized, I don't really feel like that was a true baptism. And I knew it really, like, when you were doing it. Even as like, I was 12 years old when I got baptized. And even like a week later. Yeah, it's a young mind.

I look back and I'm like, no, I mean, I'm not really baptized, though, because I don't really truly understand this. I don't believe this. You're mine. You can't understand that at that young age, I think. No, you can't. And it's hard for us to understand now. Yeah. And I'm just the opposite of both of you.

You know, I lived in a house that my mom was Lutheran and my dad was Jewish. So we kind of celebrated all the holidays, but we didn't go to church or temple. Yeah. But as I was growing up, But many of my, most of my friends were Christians. So I would love, I spent the night with my friends on Saturday night and then I would sneak to church on Sunday with them. Because I say, sneak to. Yes, because after a while of going for like a couple months, my dad found out and boy, was he mad.

And your dad was Jewish. So obviously, you know. He was so mad at me that I had been sneaking to church. Yeah, that's the thing about Jewish. And I had gone to the altar and I had accepted Jesus. in my heart and everything, because I felt like it, but I felt kind of like you did, Bree, as far as that a little bit of peer pressure, they're like, go to the altar, do this. But I still had a will to do it myself.

Yeah, yeah. You know? Right. But you had it in a different way, which is interesting, because you had it in a different way, and I don't want to go too deep and just like this is going to be all just like a sermon. But what I'm saying is you had it a different way because your dad was Jewish. Now, we know the Jewish religion is very strict with, like, how they do. do things and you're not allowed to do this and this and this. But for whatever reason, you wanted

to sneak out and go to, well, I want to be careful how I'll say this. Well, I love Sunday school. Yeah. I thought it was so much fun. And I wanted to be there with the other kids. Yeah. You wanted to sneak out and go to like contemporary church. Right. Like, you know, what a lot of people you saw going to as church, whatever. But anyways. So what Brie was saying, though, too, is, you know, when she really started believing was the prophecies, right? And I think, I guess my point to this is, and maybe, I don't know about yours necessarily, I think Sherry didn't really truly understand the prophecy side of things until really, I guess, the podcast sort of and how we started talking about them, because she was in that battle in her life with between, you know, her family was Jewish,

mostly. And then so prophecies and all that stuff is not as high in high regard in the Jewish religion. But since this podcast, though, right, I've struggled with so many things. And when you look at evidence-based things, right? So, for example, let's just take one quick example, but COVID, right? And when you look at the numbers of COVID and the actual things that are actually happening, and if you look at it beyond what the media is trying to betray it as and just look, you know, a couple of layers back and actually look at the stats, look at the facts, if they will show them to you, well, those are, in my opinion, even with COVID, I think those,

actual facts or prophecies. Like, and I'm trying to correlate it to how the Bible shows you, hey, I'm real. This is real. If you want to debate the Big Bang theory versus God theory, then let me just show you. Has Big Bang predicted anything of what's going to happen? No, but the Bible has. And I think that's what you're saying. I think you're saying that, Bree, is like, you know, I think you're, I think you're, I think you,

and I know you, you're very similar to me, by the way. we are evidence no kidding yeah we are evidence we're evidence based or evidence based fact based people

and you know we don't just blindly believe necessarily we have to see the proof we have to see something and I think that's what you're kind of saying is okay well the prophecies look at them read them

look at all of them and then look at what's happening today absolutely and I just would like to expand on that a little bit and just say that you know, my, my, my, my, who I am, it's funny that you bring up, you know, you don't believe things blindly. And I literally just had that conversation with someone today because I was one of those people that was duped.

Yeah. And, and really it was, dare I say recent. I mean, recent within like a decade, okay? where I realized that I was believing things without, I was believing things blindly, okay, not really realizing what was really going on. And interestingly enough, as I say that now, light bulb goes off in my mind and says, that's literally right around the time, right after actually, when I asked God,

all right, all right, what's going on here? is Jesus real? And then boom, prophecies started. Well, I learned my lesson from blindly believing things. And I think that is why I treat everything now as if it's like a murder investigation.

You know? So I really believe that everyone is going to have to have a waking moment where they actually are, number one, able to accept that they've been duped, right? Into believing something. and then move forward and realize that the only option that they have at that point is to ask questions

and ask them of the right source. And that right source is not going to be any other human being unless that human being shows the fruits that they really do know what they're talking about and that, you know, it can come from a person of integrity, right? and high character, high level. So I think that people are going to have to learn that lesson of how not to be blindly following. Right. And talking about that, and I just want to ask you a quick question, since you've been moved to, like, land and all you can see is probably skies now, right?

Oh, it's beautiful. I'm sure it is. Have you felt like you have seen anything that is non-human or UFO-type things in the sky where you're at? 100%. I personally feel so my feeling is that

you know aliens in the flesh per se they're not going to mess with me. They're not going to mess with my land for me and my household we belong to the Lord, right? And they are not going because you guys know my feeling

is that they're fallen angels, right? So those are, they're fallen angels and demons and whatnot that they're playing for the other side of the team. And they ain't going out with me. Well, maybe we should stop there. Wait, maybe we should stop there and talk about the fallen angels and the demons. Because to me, like when we've talked, you know, just personally, I wasn't even really sure what the difference was between angels, fallen angels and demons. I actually think, though, that she should tell us what she's seen first. Oh, okay.

Because I think once we get into the topic, it's going to get deep. Okay. Sorry. All right. So go to the topic and then tell me what the difference is. Yeah. Okay. Well, the thing is, is that outside, you know, where we live, there's no light. Right.

So you see everything. And one of the biggest things is that there's things in the sky that, like, according to where the moon is, right? it's supposed to move they're supposed to move but they're not moving so these quote-unquote stars in the sky that are supposed to move like one minute the moon the moon will be you know here over here in my backyard as it's you know coming up or whatever and then and then it you know is supposed to go to the other side which is would be the front of my yard the same stars, the same two stars are still there. And then as the season goes on, the moon moves, those two stars are still there.

And that's not the way it's supposed to be. And you know, I know I'm not crazy because my 10-year-old sees it too. And he likes to stick his tongue out at him. And I'm like, no, don't, please don't. Like, don't. But he likes to, you know, he likes to be a little belligerent. with them sometimes. I'm like, you know, you might want to just leave that alone. But yeah, you know, there's that. We see all the time things that are moving in directions

and in ways that we don't have machinery for. We don't have that kind of engineering as humans. And I'm familiar with the difference between the nuts and bolts. You know, they call it nuts and bolts for different UFOs. I refuse to say UAP, by the way. Not doing it. I agree with that. No, I'm not doing it. It wasn't broken to begin with. Except now, I guess the difference is that we know it's identified. So maybe we should call it IFO.

But, you know, there's that difference there. And I just, I know that the radiation aspect of it, you know, these things, they land, they leave radiation prints and nothing grows and so on and so forth, which by the way, we have. that on our property. It's weird. Can't wait for you guys to come and see it. Like a crop looking thing or something? No, just like a radiation button. It's not a craft burger.

Yeah, it's nothing grows there. And it's like, it's really, really weird. I'll take some pictures and I'll show you. But yeah, we've had a lot of different things. So you've actually seen in the sky like things moving in different directions and going kind of crazy. Like we know that humans cannot make. Disappearing.

Yes. Yeah. Disappearing. absolutely go ahead man I was going to say so what okay in your opinion

you've seen these things because I've seen them too and to me this is like something not from this earth and Bree you know the difference in satellites right satellite right

we know satellites oh 100% yeah so oh 100% tell me according to like your beliefs and you know

the Bible and whatever else what can these things be or could it be UFOs Well, it's definitely not human. Okay. I think that they're interdimensional.

Because here's the thing. You know, why they're here. Okay? They're definitely here. And we know by the hearing, and by the way, I'm just going to preface and say just because there was a congressional hearing with some dudes that showed up that said, hey, we've got this. So I'm going to actually make it the truth either. Okay. However, I believe them.

Okay, I believe them. And I also believe that part of that, that, you know, 60% of the Pentagon's budget is unaccounted for us. That's an astronomical number. And the only thing I can think of is it is going to a cosmic, you know, it's going for cosmic reasons, you know, it's going for space. space, you know, travel and warfare and things like that, right? Absolutely.

But here's the thing. If these aliens are coming from other planets and are in our solar system and A, they're here to help us, what are they waiting for? Because I kind of feel like we've been a hot mess for a long time, you know? Yeah. You know, but go ahead. No, sorry. Sorry.

I want to touch on something real quick because I think. think this is kind of where we're about to go with this. And I want to make sure that I, we kind of preface the subject with this. Because I want to, I want to talk about a little bit briefly, and we can have a conversation about this, about kind of aliens through history. And I want to talk about some of the potentials of, okay, there's a lot of people out there. A lot of our listeners that say, hey, these things are fallen angels. These things are Nephlehem. These are not UFOs. These are not extraterrestrials from another planet. Okay. So, but we have to, we have to remember, since the very dawn of man, we have

looked to the skies in amazement, as you were talking about, in your own property, looking at the stars, looking at this vast array of cosmic amazement. And we've seen this thing that just makes us feel so small, right? Although many people don't realize

how small we actually are in the universe. But throughout a rather short time, we've reported strange flying objects and crafts that seem to defy the laws of science, or at least those laws to the extent we can understand, them and for many of the modern UFO craze began with the Kennedy

Arnold who in 1947 reported crescent-shaped craft maneuvering around mountains while he was flying his own plane. So others look more to the World War II and the reports of the foo fighters. Now, glowing orbs that were often reported following U.S. air pilots as they flew.

The U.S. military felt that these crafts were German spy devices. Shortly after the war ended, the Germans would reveal they had, or they too had an issue with flying orbs. were under assumption that there were U.S. military in nature. So now, while we cannot deny that the historically documented UFO cases are interesting, we must not also that the UFO has appeared in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, right?

We know that ancient hieroglyphs and all these cave drawings, I mean, not even just from the Egyptians, but back in caveman days, we've had a lot of things. There's even depictions of ancient paintings in the Bible or from, biblical days of paintings to where they depicted some type of UFO-type craft. And so as we start talking about history, we start to see a pretty good deal of UFO and alien activity. But let's embrace the real point of the whole podcast we're doing, which is the Bible, right? So in all necessity, the Bible is a book of historical text, right? It documents history as its core, as well as some of the most vital phrases.

And if we look at the Bible as a history book, we will then be able to start to see a correlation between it and other historical works. Now, the Bible is God's word, yes, but God's celestial hand did not pin the book itself. Mankind's hands put words on parchment paper, and it was mankind's eyes that saw the events documented. Now, this being said, we might have our reasoning behind such biblical terms as chariots of fire or amber whirlwind. And the term UFO had not obviously been coined yet, and therefore would not have been the words used to describe the craft seen in the skies during biblical times. So there's a lot of things in the Bible. There's a lot of verses in the Bible that talks about chariots of fire.

They talk about all these glowing type orb type things. Even it further goes on to say about the chariots of fire as this glowing fire chariot. And what is a chariot? Well, chariots typically are some type of transportation device, something that is going to move you from point A to point B. Yeah. Yeah. So where we're going to get into the potential, I guess, some call them the sons of God, some call them fallen angels, some call them, some call them angels, right? Angels, I guess, are technically the sons of God as they call them.

So the sons of God are often considered to be angels, or at the very least, an angelium. descent. And this comes from the fact they came down and took up wives. And by coming down, we may have misled us to the true origin of the fathers of the Nephlem. Now, could the possibility exist that these beings came down, but not from heaven, but maybe just from outer space? And, you know, we've often considered that the sons of God were not angelic in origin, but extraterrestrial. There are a lot of people that believe that. And remember back when people had basically no idea of aliens and UFOs, and they would have just assumed something to sin in the sky had to be God sin. It had to be something from God. Could these fallen angels or

these angels actually have been UFOs in the Bible? And what is your thought process? Well, we first have to define what that is. What is the difference between angels, fallen angels, and demons? Yeah. That's a perfect segue. So, um, fallen angels, are like Chad, like you were talking about the sons of God. And because he had a family, right? I know there's a lot of people don't like that, but it says it right there. You know, he created this family. And so the sons of God, they were these divine beings, these angels, these Elohim, if you will.

The small, I like to call them small g, small guys. There's a lot of, if you look at Greek, mythology and Roman mythology, even Egyptian, these small G's, these small gods, if you will, you'll see a correlation

between many of the gods in the book, the small Gs in the Bible versus, like, for instance, Samson in the Bible would have been Hercules, right? In the mythology.

and so on and so forth. Bail in the Bible would have been Zeus or Kronos, right? So there's the storm gods. So they correlate. Now, the thing is, is that those small Gs were the sons of God, and they were the ones that went against the creator, Yahweh, okay? Because they decided to do. Are you there?

Brie? Sorry, guys. We had a brief interrupt. All right, Bree, continue. Okay. So basically what happened was these, these angels, these sons of God decided that they were going to go against them because they wanted what we had. They were jealous. They had pride, the whole nine yards, and they decided we're going to do our own thing. So they went ahead and got women pregnant and had the Nephilim. Okay, the Nethulam was a tribe. Well, the reason why, there's a correlation and a difference is because when the fall they are being held in what I call angel jail, okay? And they're not dead yet. They're not dead.

But the Nephilim, most of them died in the flood. Their spirit is what you would call a demonic spirit. It's diamond is what it is in the Greeks, okay, diamond. and they roam around the earth like a parasite looking for a host. So when you see people who are, you know, playing with Ouija boards and, you know, messing with frequencies and things like that, well, that's how they move. That's how the devil moves. He uses his diamond, his demons, to do his dirty work, right?

because Satan cannot be in more than one place at one time. But he has his own army, just like God has an army, right? He mimics all things God, everything. So that's the difference. That's the difference is that you got the angels, the fallen angels, who were the fathers, per se, of these Nephlin who then died in the flood, most of them. And you see there's, you know, Smithsonian, they tried to hide all of the giant bones and things like that.

The evidence is there. And their spirit did not go anywhere. Their spirit still roams around Earth. And that could lead me down a whole other rabbit hole. The difference between graze and reptilians and things like that, because I believe that CRISPR Nines involved, and they made a whole thing with DNA and whatever and let the spirits of these demons go into these little grays and whatnot.

That's a whole other story. But there you go. I hope they answered the question. Yeah. Have you heard of the theory that possibly some of the Nephlam may not have died in the flood and actually resided somewhere on the earth? Yeah. They did.

They did not die. The Bible says that there were, in those days in Genesis 6, it says in those days there were giants and then after that, and that's the days of Noah. And then after that means the flood happened. And then there were still some giants there. In fact, Goliath was a giant. Remember? Al's was a giant.

So, yeah, there were still methyl in blood, and there's a lot of questions about that as to how that can be. Well, it's kind of simple when you look at it from this standpoint that there were eight people on that arc. Yes, God looked at Noah and he said, you're perfect. He didn't mean that he was sinless. He meant that his DNA was perfect. Okay. And then that meant that his two sons were good. Okay, so his wife and his two sons were good, but his two sons brought their wives.

We don't know nothing about their wives' lineage. Yeah, right. So their wives could have given, you know, a lesser degree of DNA to the Natholm line. Okay, so, so, so, so, re, I just want to make sure that people understand this. Who do you believe had sexual relations with? the women to become Nephlin or fallen angels. Who is it that you think did that? Son's a god.

Which are angels. Angels. Okay. Angels. So the son of gods are the angels. Yes. Sons of God are angels, or at least that's what the Bible considers. And then I'm still confused a little bit. Well, the angels had sex with humans, right? Is that the fallen angel?

Those are the ones that became fallen because they were not supposed to have sex with anyone, right? But so that kind of goes back to the point of like if you think about this, right? And we're going to get into a couple of things, but angels are supposed to be perfect, right? I mean, are they not? Although Lucifer was once an angel, correct? And yet went down to what's cast in the hell as Lucifer, right? And Gabriel, or not Gabriel. Gabriel, I know, was an angel.

Yes. But Gabriel is a good guy. Gabriel's a good guy. Michael is a good guy. Lucifer, so let me just, this is probably going to maybe blow us the minds a little bit, but Satan is not actually his name. And neither is Lucifer, okay? My opinion on that matter is that the reason why those are the only two names that he goes by that we know him by is because God did not want him,

he didn't want to even glorify him by giving him the name or letting us know. the name. Now, the book of Enoch talks about a dude named Satanail, which could give rise to the word Satan, but literally the word Satan means adversary or the accuser, okay? And Lutherfer means Morningstar, which means angel, all right? So we know he's an angel and he did not get thrown in hell. He got thrown from heaven. He got thrown from heaven. But we also know, know that there's different levels of heaven as well, which makes me understand there's different dimensions going on here. Yeah.

And I want to touch on that, too. So a valid argument with this whole thing is Matthew 2240. And it was spoken by Jesus Christ himself. And it says, they will be like the angels of God who do not marry. Now, if God's angels do not marry, yeah. If God's angels do not marry, we are left to assume one of two things about the sons of God. Either they were rebellious against the word of their creator, or they were in fact possibly not even angels at all.

Could they have been extraterrestials? Well, okay, that's a great question. Of course, they were rebellious. Okay, but here, I want you to understand. So it was Matthew 22, what did you say? Matthew 22, 20, right? No, it was Matthew 2240. Oh, 2240.

Okay. So one of the things is that you need to make sure this is a really big issue, especially when it comes to church. This is why it's so hard for people to find a good church. And that's that there's a lot of things that can be taken out of context. And so you need to make sure that you read the whole, you know, the whole kitten caboodle. Okay. and so I'm trying at Matthew 2240 I don't see that anyway what I'm trying to say is that what you're talking about right there is you're talking about us believers okay who will be changed

they do not marry right they take on a glorified body like Jesus and do not marry while these angels that fell, no, they're not supposed to marry. And so when they did what they did, they went against God. They definitely rebelled. What was the other than half of your question? I'm so sorry. I guess my, but I guess the better part of the question is, okay? So we know, obviously, based on these stories about the sons of God,

aka the angels that came down and had sex with women, okay? Yeah, you asked if they were exterrestrial. Well, but yeah. And so, but we knew, obviously, the merging between these two, the merging of DNA or the merging of whatever it was was catastrophic. For whatever reason, it was catastrophic. But why would angels have ever came down to have sex? And by the way, if angels are in spiritual of nature, and some even think that aliens potentially are interdimensional, which also could be a spiritual of nature as well.

But at the very least, some of what we're starting to see, potentially even in the UFO hearings with Grush, it just said that we have biologics, which is a physical entity of something in a downed craft. To me, it's more believable that what if these extraterrestrials from another planet came down to have sex with the women that then created some wacky DNA-type interdimensional thing? It just seems weird to me that it would be angels over aliens.

Like if I had to pick one of the same. Okay. So it's really, I love it when people bring this up because you're saying the word angels versus aliens. Well, let's think about the words for a moment, right? So an extraterrestrial is something that comes from a different world. Would you agree? Yeah. Okay.

Well, Jesus Christ himself said, I come from a completely different world. He said that. He said, this is not, I do not come from this world. So then does that make him an alien? Right. I kind of feel like, you know, that in and of itself, you can take angels just because they're called angels

and just because they were made by, you know, the creator and their divine being, right? It doesn't mean they're not aliens. That's true. You know, so, you know, it's all about us and it's all about our narrative and what we've attached to that. Yeah, and how we comprehended, I guess. Because could aliens and angels be the same thing? And could God be, I mean.

Could God be over all of it? Technically, God is an extraterrestrial. I mean, you know. Yeah, he's not from this world. For sure. But. For sure. But how we.

He's outside of space time. But how we see aliens and what we see of these little gray guys, right? Could gray guys be angels to have some awesome spacecraft that God gave them? You're talking about the conventional, traditional view of what an alien is. And my opinion on that matter is that going on what you were talking about with the DNA. So the Bible talks about Jesus himself says, as in the days of Noah, all right, well, let's just take that for what that is as in the days of Noah what happened in the days of Noah well there was a flood but why was there a flood well because the rebellious angels who went against God and started

this you know this war decided they were going to mop up the DNA of the one thing that that the Lord loved more than anything right and that was man yeah okay so then what happened from that well they messed up the DNA and then all of these like crazy things happened, you know, you fast forward thousands of years, whatnot, and look, we are sicker than ever. So that's their ploy to get back at God, right? Now, take that a step further. If they know, if they know how to do that, and they can introduce, because, you know, the devil in his army, they have just as much rain in this world, okay? In fact, the Bible says that he's the prince of the air.

So how is he moving? Right? He's moving through frequency and all these things and he can plant ideas in people's heads just like God can. And so here we come, you know, 2000s and there's something called CRISPR 9. Well, who's to say that the technology, because no one in their right mind can tell me that these angels or these aliens are simply, you know, spiritual beings. they have the ability to jump dimensions in their physical space.

And we know that they've made physical appearances. We can see them with our physical eyes. Okay. And there's people who can see evidence of them and so on and so forth. So we know that they're tangible, right? Which also means that they have technology way far more advanced than us. They probably perfected that CRISPR nine. and therefore, if you notice, you have these different classes of these aliens.

Who's to say that they didn't create these graves as their little minions to go out and do all these little things like probing and what have you? I really feel like it lends itself to what Jesus said, that as in the days of Noah, which means hybrids, right? There's hybrids out there in those days. and then that's why they needed, that's why God was like, you know, through this, plan B, we're going to do this over again. We're going to flood it, right? That's what's happening today.

As in the days of Noah, so shall it be when the son of man comes again. And that's where we're at. Because now you've got DNA happening where they can do what they need to do with us. Now I'm going to go a weird other step because we have to because people are probably wondering us. I mean, just listen to this.

I'm wondering, I'm wondering, just take for example, and I'm not, I'm not going against God by any means. I am going to play. Ask the question. I'm going to play alien advocate, okay? Or devil's advocate, whichever you want to. Go ahead. It's all good. It's all good.

Okay, so we hear this story of the battles between the fallen angels, aka the angels that became fallen because of they were kind of in a war with God. but does it sound more realistic that God created or not created, but God had these angels that then became in a battle with him, although the Bible always tells you that heaven is perfect. Heaven is all of everything you could ever imagine to be good. And heaven is all these things, which I assume is where the angels would reside, right? So at the very least, does it sound more realistic that these angels of God was fighting God? Or let's just take a crazy step in one little direction that no one really ever talks about, but we have to at least ask the question, could there be multiple gods and could there be multiple gods of other civilizations? And these civilizations sometimes coincide or interlap to where there are battles,

just like we see in this world, where you have China and Russia and the United States that cannot get along, although they coexist, they are different species, technically we're humans, But we're different looking, where we have different viewpoints, we have different things we eat. There's all these things. What if there was another God in part of this vast universe that overlaps with the God that we know, we coincide with, we believe in? And these aliens could be their angels or it could be their people. It could be their advanced civilizations. How is that not a possibility?

Well, it is possible, and that's exactly what happened. I bet you weren't expecting that answer. I have no idea. It's just, it's a weird question, I know, but it's something I've thought about. Let me explain it. It's a great question. Let me explain it to you. So, okay.

Oh, boy, how do I do this? I'm sorry. That was a random, that was a crazy question. No, it's a really good question. Um, so, okay, there's different facets to your question. I feel like your question has a lot to do with, you know, because there's different races of aliens, right? Um, maybe they're like in this, in this some kind of a galactic war where their god created

them, uh, like, like the reptilian god created them and, you know, then you have the gray god created them and so on and so forth. Here's the thing. when you do a deep dive study, and I really encourage this, okay, do a deep dive study on all of the, quote, unquote, pagan gods that were worshipped in the ancient civilization, okay? So you've got like, day gun and you've got, you know, bail and you've got the rain, the god, the god that. gives you food, all those gods are. I literally just for a moment there thought you just said Biden. The Biden God.

I was like there was that could not, but okay, anyway. So, you know, they have all these guys. There's Ishtar and Astroft and which by the way, I'm just a little side note here. Ishtar actually is what gave rise to the holidays. Day Easter. Eggs and bunnies had a lot to do with fertility. And they worshipped Ishtar. And so, but God is clever.

And he's like, you know what? I'm going to take that and Christmas. And I'm going to make it about my kids. Because they're pagan holidays. But anyways, I digress. If you look at all of those things and you do a deep dive, you know, ISIS, which actually ISIS and Horace are all over the. place in in Washington and in Paris and I'm calling you it's all over the place but when you do a deep

dive on all of these these gods and goddesses it's really easy to see how the reality of their presence is not a myth okay now don't don't confuse that for my saying that just because they exist means that they are, you know, all powerful or all knowing or omnipotent or omniscient because they're not, because

there is only one. All right? Instead, we have to look at it from the standpoint of, again, it's our narrative. All right? Because technically, the word God,

Yahweh did not call himself God. That was something that was put into the Bible, okay, into the King James. It was easy for us to understand, and there's a whole other thing about that. But he actually commanded us to say his name, all right, which Jews, they have a thing about that. Sherry, I don't know if you remember that from your dad, but there was a thing about that. So my point is that the word God, yes, they were there, okay, and they are still here.

It's just our narrative says, you know, like your question, is it possible that there's other gods of these other civilization? Yeah, it's possible. And it's actually true. All right. You will see that these gods of the Bible and the gods of mythology, they match up. They match up. And it's pretty crazy. The same, the gods that are in Greek mythology and the gods that are in Roman mythology are actually.

the same, they're the same people. Okay. So is it fair to say then that these aliens could potentially, even though I think you're going a different way with this, but the way I'm going with this, could these aliens potentially be an offset of another god completely that has zero to do with our gods? Well, I mean, anything's possible at that point, but what I have learned up until now and obviously you never stop learning right because the day you quit learning is the day you die but um up until this point i only know what i know yeah so yeah i'm sure that that's possible

but i only know the things that god wants me to know and anytime i ever ask a question you know i tend to get an answer and the only answer i've ever gotten about something like that because i have I had asked that question. You know, I've wondered and pondered those things before because of aliens and, you know, whatever. I've always known that they were there. And the only answer that I ever get back is there's only one. Yeah. Now, and I do want to say, too, that, you know, we have to understand.

And there's actually a guy out there on the internet. He is not a pastor. He's a philosopher. He's a philosopher and all this. But he knows the Bible very well. and he actually did a comparison one day about the comparisons between alleged alien abductions

and demonic I guess what is it called? Possessions. Yeah, demonic possessions. We have talked about this, Brie, because I feel like something has happened to me at times and it could be like... Yeah. And there's a very close comparison

to a lot of these alien abductions of what people experience or feel or believe or see or whatever. and demonic possessions. And so we have to think of it that way. Now, we do see these aliens, at least according to the government and whistleblowers, that they do disconnect our nuclear missile silos. They do all these things.

And they can arm them too. Yeah, and they can also arm them. Oh, yeah. But it seems like if these UFOs are in our presence and have been for a very long time, never causes any harm, never causes any damage, well, there's one of two things. They're good. or they're not wanting to do damage

or it's the same argument as like they see us as ants like we see ants right we're too dumb to understand anything they possess as far as knowledge and so we're just minuscule they're just flying across our atmosphere and we're ants on the ground and it's like our knowledge

and our being is not even comparison to what they know and what you know their advanced technology and all this that's another possibility. But if we look at the... I hope they don't look at it as like ants because if they do, you know, and they do what I do the ants that are on my property

and I flood it with gasoline. I just, I hope that ain't the thing because we're in trouble. Yeah, maybe they're Democrat aliens that want to not hurt a single, not want to hurt a single freaking aunt. Oh my gosh. Sorry, Democrats.

We love you. It's okay because I don't like, killing bugs either. No, I don't either. No. But listen, so... I don't kill the ants, though. So we got to talk a little bit about interdimensionality. So there... I don't know if you heard of Dr. Stephen Greer, Bria, I think you probably have, but Dr. Stephen Greer... Of course I know Stephen Greer. Yeah, so Dr. Stephen Greer, he has had these experiences where he takes groups out.

And it's not just him, by the way. There have been many people do this, including... And actually, I think you actually sent me a little video earlier about this to have this included in this. Right. And I want to play this, actually. Do you have a second? I'm going to play this. Because it is very interesting. And I think we've done a podcast about him. Oh, we have. Absolutely. Where, you know, he gets groups of people. They go and they pretty much meditate or pray for aliens. It's really dangerous. And they come.

That's really dangerous. Yeah. Really dangerous to do that. So let's play this little clip here. And hopefully you can hear it, Bree. I think you can. But if you can't, then you'll hear us when we start talking again. That's okay. I sent it to you. All right, here we go. Here is the video. Why would alien beings from a different planet appear when you pray or do meditation? Dr. Stephen Greer has been seen leading guided meditations where these lights in the sky show up.

Christopher Bledsoe had an encounter with lights in the sky, and now he says that every time he prays to them, they appear around his house. Demi Lovato has also come out and said through astral projection and other new age spiritual practices, she has encountered these beings and one night woke up to three extraterrestrials in her room. Spiritual beings react to spiritual practices. The same reason why when you rebuke these things or call on Jesus for help when you encounter these entities, they flee and disappear. All right. Did you hear that? Pree? I did not hear that. Okay, go. Well, you already know what it says. So basically this whole concept is, is that, you know, supposedly when you pray,

about these things, they disappear. Now, well, no, when you rebut them with Jesus, they go away. Yeah. So, but the reality is, too, is that a lot of the government's things that they're coming out with, and this is some of the stuff we're really starting to hear from

Grush and, you know, even Tom DeLong, I hate to even referring to him as like a credible source and he's a Blink 102 singer guy, but he does have a lot of connections that he, you know, I think this is a passion in his life at this UFO thing. Now, there's a lot of people out there are going to say, you know, it's a false flag.

This is a cover-up. This is some kind of, you know, whatever, the whole UFO topic. But the reality is, is that if, let's just take, for example, that the government and some of the things that we're starting to hear about what is actually going on with the UFOs is true, which is what they're starting to believe potentially to be interdimensional, another dimension, right? We at least know that there's a spirituality side of this because I think that we often, think of spirituality as a mindset, as something we believe in but don't exist. And I mean, really, if you look at the outside world,

people believe spirituality, for any non-believers is something that you think of and believe in that you can't see, or most people believe that don't actually exist. Because most people are going to, that's their biggest argument to you. Oh, you believe in God or something that doesn't

exist or doesn't, you can't see, you can't touch, you can't prove. But now we're starting to see. I'm not a million dollars. Yeah, but now we're starting to see that, you know, these things are maybe, I mean, there's some of them are being seen, but we're starting to understand that these could be, you know, interdimensional in nature, almost like a spiritual realm in sorts. What is a connection there? And, you know, I still go back to these things could be, I don't know, could they be from another God? Well, I think that, I think

fit regardless, okay, so regardless if they're quote unquote from another god, they are playing a very big role as far as I'm concerned when I read the Bible, okay, because they fit perfectly into a scenario of what we are doing right now is preparing for their arrival, okay? the government and the world, they're just desensitizing us to the fact that they're here. We've known that they were here. We've known people see them. You know, a lot of Christians don't like to admit that because it doesn't necessarily talk about, it doesn't say the word alien in the Bible, right?

But again, that's a narrative, you know, that's a word thing. You know, it's like, well, there is, but there is 30 references to aliens in the Bible. It just don't say aliens. Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't say aliens. But it doesn't say the word Trinity either, you know, but we know that there's Godfather's son and Holy Spirit. Okay.

Well, you know, it's just, again, it's a matter of how we attach words to something rather than taking it out of the box, okay? And so I really think that regardless of whether or not they come from, quote unquote another god it's it's more along the lines for me at least that you know based on everything that has happened up until now that and it's happening at like rapid pace now you know I just and I'll just preface by saying that I just saw firsthand a friend of mine who went to Whole Foods and saw the Amazon one payment system yeah okay Well, all that is is one glitch away from inserting nanotechnology into your hand. And so they're preparing us for this.

The central banking system, right, that whole thing. They're preparing us for a cashless society. Well, cool, right? We know that that's happening. But here's the thing. when you have things that are written from, you know, 2,000 years ago that are, they don't have words for. But it's literally like, wow, that is, that is dead on to what we're looking at right now. It makes perfect sense and it fits like a puzzle.

And then you see all the desensitization that's happening to get us ready to accept what they're bringing on stage. Um, doesn't it kind of seem like an alien invasion would make an unbelievable, uh, excuse for the rapture? Yeah, absolutely. You know, because, so regardless of whatever God, regardless of whatever God, you know, it's like, now they're there. They're definitely there and they're definitely tangible and they're definitely going to play a part. they're spiritual beings, right? Because they're telepathic and they can answer. And in all of these people who are,

they're looking for answers. These people are looking for answers. They're just going to the wrong place. Because, you know, that guy that you were talking about that said, you know, he's never heard, they've never heard us, right? Well, I haven't, again, I've yet to see a person come forward who's had a, an abduction and be like, man, that was great. I love having that approach up my Wahoo.

You know? Right. That was just, that was amazing. There was nothing scary about it. That was just awesome. And all the soldiers that have been reported to have died upon contact of UAPs or UFOs. Exactly. So we do know that.

But why. So that debunked that theory. But if they are spiritual beings or the fallen angels' children, why would they be probing our yin-gings anyways? Or killing us. Well, I think it's a DNA thing. I think it all comes down to one thing, and that is this war. It's a war that we're in, you know, and there's two different players. There's the sleepers, and then the ones who are awake.

And it just met. We're all pawns and we're all the prize. Okay, that's what we have to understand. We are all pawns and we are all the prize. It just matters on who's going to be both of those and a warrior at the same time. Yeah. And I often go back to this. And I probably need to say this, especially considering I propose the idea of potentially other gods in the universe.

But the reason I want to say this, too, is because I think, you know, we have to go back to the beginning. any of this episode, where we were talking about, why we believe in the Bible, why we believe in God, which is the prophecies. And so, so if you think about the prophecies, and then you also think about God said, in the end times, when my time is near for my return, there will be signs from the heavens. And I don't think we've ever had more signs from the heavens than we have now. So God knew this was going to happen. Yeah. Well, and it's great that you bring that up because There's two things there. So number one, number one, I just want to point out that it doesn't stop at the prophecies, okay?

Because there's a lot of people out there who will say, that's just, you know, the prop, especially ones who've never studied it or read it, that's just, you know, it's just coincidence. Okay, it's just coincidence. You can torture it to say whatever you want it to say. No, no. because a lot of these, most of these prophecies were either called out by name several hundred years prior to or even thousands of years prior to, okay? Like Isaiah 53, all about Christ. And that happened well before Christ was born or Psalm 22. Literally words as if Christ was on the cross himself came out of his mouth.

Right. And then all of these things that happened thousands of years. Cyrus, right? God called them all by name. So there's, it doesn't, but it doesn't end at these prophecies. There's, there's math involved, okay? And there is not a human being on this earth with a functioning brain that can, that can say, well, you can't, you can't have the argument of math.

Well, math is black and white. Two plus two equals four. Maybe not in 1984. Okay. Where, you know, where two plus two was five, but see, that was fiction. Scary how close that is, though, right? Because now we are all, everybody is doing according to what is in their, what is right in your own eyes, right?

However, there's one thing that does not change, and that is that two plus two equals four. Well, when you start to really dig in deeper and you start to peel it like an onion, and you go beyond the prophetic part of it, you start to see these mathematical equations that are just, and they're not hard, they're not hard. We're not even talking about like theory of relativity. You know, we're talking about basic multiplication and stuff like that. We see that the chances of these things happening are like one in like 1.5 million.

okay one chance and like 1.5 million it's impossible and there's there's like there's so many of them that you can't you kind of give up after a while well Ivan Panon yeah and we were talking about the other day Bree about the the whole 26 you know there's 26 in the Bible there's all this number comes up 1724 rule yeah it comes up over and over and over and then it's like 2,000 But it's always the 264, 264 or 26. It's over and over. And I think, you know, I watched a video that you sent to me. It was like one in one, 1,000 billion whatever chances that could even be a coincidence.

And how could a human even like think about that logically even back then? Yeah. And I think God, yeah. And I think God has in. many cases in the Bible. I think he, you know, I think throughout the Bible, it really does talk about the prophecies of what, what will lead to the end of the world. And look, you're going to have people out there, and not in the world, but in the world as we know it, ungodly, right? Yeah, and so we're getting to a point of, you know, Christians are ridicule, Christians are

persecuted. We're getting to the point of, they want to take out God and Jesus or any of the words of any, pretty much almost any Bible to where they want to disregard that and create their own religion. And so we're getting to a point now where it's like God knew this was going to happen. At least the Bible knew it. Many other Bibles also kind of knew it. There's obviously some correlation between many Bibles. It's not just the King James Version or whatever. A lot of the Bibles around the world, even older Bibles than the King James Version or than the Holy Bible or whatever. Right. There's a lot of Bibles older that also follows some of the same guidelines and principles. And the reality of this is, is that we have to ask ourselves, like, is this

believable or not. And I think, if anything, I think in some ways, I guess from where I took some of this is like the UFO thing in aliens and the fact that aliens even can be interdimensional. And then you talk about CERN and the large Hadron Collider and the particle Collider to where it's proven other dimensions up to the 10th, which is where you would see someone like God or heaven or all these places, it proves that that can exist and which has always been taught in the Bible. And now the Bible, you know, I still always go back to. I know we have prophecies out the Wahoo and most of them have come true, but I still always go back. Yeah, all of them have. Yeah, absolutely. But I always, for whatever reason, I'll always go back to, there will be signs from the heavens. And I know, but there are signs from us. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It is, it is the most abundant we've ever seen in history. I truly believe. You know, there's something else, too. And this, this, when, you know what, the Bible to me, when, when you pick it apart, there's so many things in it that I just, like, my mind gets blown.

I'm just like, oh my gosh, that's so clever, right? I didn't even see that before. Well, I was reading a passage and there's a prophecy in this, too. And the cool thing about all of this is that these numbers and these prophecies, you can take all of these codes. you can take all of these codes. You can do it in the Greek. You can do it in the Hebrew and you can do it in the King James. And they are always in line, okay?

Which just freaks me out. But one of the things that blew my mind is I was looking at this and there's a prophecy and it talk and God is saying, he's saying, for I am the Lord God, I will do as I please, for I see the end. end from the beginning. And when you read that, if you're just reading, you don't catch it. You don't catch it. Yeah. But if you're not like, you know, if you're like me and you're just not really normally

adjusted sitting in church and just, you know, listening to a sermon or whatever and you want more because you're hungry, you're going to pick it all apart. And what I found was you and I would say, oh, I thought from the beginning to end. But no, God said, I know it from the, I see from the end to the beginning, yeah. From the beginning. I know the end. I already know the end. I know the end from the beginning.

And it's like, oh, wow, that just gives you a glimpse into dimension, right? He's in another dimension outside of space time where he sees the whole parade. He saw it start. He saw it. And he knows exactly who's doing. what and who's messing around on the sideline. So he already has the playbook in hand, regardless

if it was written by man. Yeah. Okay? Because after all, he's got, so. I agree. Yeah. Anyway. Well, one day when we come down there to your 28 acres, we're going to have to try to summon some of these aliens to see if they're godly or not. Oh, Brie is

not going to let us summons the aliens in her property. I think I think I'm good. I think I'm all right. You know. Well, and look, there's a big argument. Yeah, there's a big argument, I guess, to this is like, are these things demons? And I know a lot of people have questioned that. You know, a lot of people said.

I would say evil. Yeah, are they evil? Evil. And I don't know the answer to that because I have mixed feelings on that. I don't know. But like Brie said, every time you've heard of an abduction is not a pleasant experience. But at the same time, we have. to also understand that these things, whatever they are, these beings of whatever they are,

have the power and potentiality of devastating this entire earth. I mean, and why haven't they done that? In reality. And so why haven't they done that? I mean, and what are they here for? Well, they're not allowed to. They're not allowed to. They still have to get permission from God.

They have to get permission. Even Satan had to get permission to afflict Job. You know, he, he, he has. has everything in such a fine working like clockwork, right? Everything is the tiniest little gears. And so that's why we're still here doing what we're doing. And they have not destroyed us, which if let's take God out of the equation, if you're an alien and you're looking at us going, do you see these fools?

Just, just wiping off the map because they dumb. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. You know, like they are just. Yeah, so there's something holding them back. Yeah, and we've talked about that. many times is like why would they be here and not destroy us if they see how freaking crazy we are but maybe they are part of the plan and maybe they know that well they aren't part of the plan

because god has a plan from the end to the beginning yeah and so i guess my real point here is though is that if they were evil why would they not have already destroyed us i mean because brie said they have to have permission i know i get it but you know at the same time the devil and satan possesses people i truly believe that and and i guess you can But I guess you could say that... If somebody is possessed, you have to have permission to enter, I would think. I don't know. No.

I don't think so. I just think you're a lost soul or whatever. I don't know. There's a lot of things, but... That's a whole new topic to talk about. It's a whole other thing. But regardless, the last question we have, not a question, but let's just close with this. What do you think these aliens are?

If you had to bank your life on this, you don't get to bank your life on it, but... What do you think they are? I mean, do you think... they are part of God or do you think they're not? Oh, sorry, Bree. Hold on. Bree, we went off of Bluetooth again. So let me make sure that we get her back on Bluetooth real quick like. I don't know why this Bluetooth disconnects, but we're going to get her right back on. All right, here we go. Bree, can you hear me now? Bree? All right, let's just put her here. Bree, can you hear me now? Okay. I'm sitting here going, Chad!

Sorry. Sorry. Okay, Bree, so the So the last question I had was... To wrap this all up. To wrap it up, do you think these things are from God, or you think they're separate of God, or possibly demonic? Okay. So I think that they are evil. I don't think that God created them evil,

but we all have a free will. So I think that they are evil. They were created by God, but now they are separated from God. Okay. That being said too, I just want to warn. So I think I mentioned this too before. There's a movie. Write it down and go and spend, it's 20 bucks, okay?

I know it seems astronomical, but it's well worth it. This guy gives a really, really great insight as to how demons really work. Okay. And you can absolutely be possessed if you give permission, right? and so go and watch this movie is called nefarious. Now Hollywood is ripping it apart. They don't like it.

Probably because it tells a lot of the truth. Okay. But I highly recommend it. Go watch that movie because it really does. It's freaky. It seems really freaky. But it's pretty accurate in that whole world. But the other thing too is that

you know, there's another side to that. And it's a, it's their better side. It's the winning team. Because one of the things I can tell you is that after reading the Bible, this book has given me the end of the story. And it turns out that the good guys win. So I would just recommend picking the right team. Yeah. Well, I agree.

I mean, I think we talked about a lot. There's so much really to talk about in all this. And we didn't even touch on the Egyptian things. We didn't even touch on the Illuminati, right? Yeah. Yeah. The triangles. Well, we'll definitely bring you back on for that.

And maybe we'll do it in person next time and discuss that. But, yeah, I think we talked about a lot. There's a lot of people that question the Nephlam, the fallen angels, all of that. And I think we covered a lot of that. Yeah. And I think that people are going to get some answers or, like, at least, understand the thought process that Brie has behind her thought process with the amount of time that you studied the Bible.

Yeah. And I hope, you know, I don't know, my question about could there be other gods and gods of these things and we're in a battle of an inter-galactic battle? And I say no. I think there's one God and one God only. So that's my belief. Yeah. And I believe that as well.

But you always got to at least, you know, have that thought about it. There's always people. There's always people who are going to have questions. And, you know, I just, I would really like to encourage any one of your listeners who, how in the world, I don't care how crazy it sounds. Because, you know, it gives me an opportunity to really do a deep dive and to try and find those answers because they are out there. Those answers are out there.

And I oftentimes will try to find, like, archaeological evidence that best, backs it up, you know, right. There's archaeological evidence that backs up, you know, the Nephilim. There's scientific evidence that backs up the dimensions. You know, we know that these things are out there. It's just we have to make sure we go to the right place to get those answers. And so I really want to encourage all of your listeners to, you know, if there's any questions or even a rebuttal, you know, even a rebuttal.

I'm so up for a healthy debate. you know, please just ask those questions and then forward them to me, Chad. Like forward me those questions because it gives me something to think about when I'm out there, you know, messing with my garden, trying to kill all the fire ants. And I'm going to have to bring this up, Bree, because a lot of people still ask, when is Brie going to get her own podcast? She's going to do it soon since she gets done killing ants. I'm almost there.

Yeah, I'm almost there. literally like all I have left to do is my raised beds and my chicken coop and then I'm good to go. I can do it. Well, that'll be awesome. Unless anybody wants to come here and build this chicken coop for me this weekend. I know, right. Well, Bree, listen, it's been, it's been awesome. I think we had a lot of great questions and answers and, or not answers, but just, you know, discussion.

I think that's, I think that's what we're going to have. And we're definitely going to bring you on. we'll talk about the ancient civilization stuff, the UFOs, the God and ancient civilizations. There's a lot of stuff to talk about there. Yeah, how it ties into the Illuminati. Absolutely. You know, there's so many things with that. Yeah, we will absolutely do that.

But guys, listen, if you want to ask Bree, any questions or us or anything else, definitely reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, any of our social medias, reach out to us. Twitter and Facebook are probably the best ways to do that. And we can get questions to Bree. and then we can, you know, kind of regroup and come back on the podcast and discuss some of your questions or whatever the case may be. But, Bree, thank you so much for coming on. And we definitely appreciate it.

Yes. Thank you so much, Bree. No, thank you. I just love you guys so much. And I'm so grateful for this opportunity to be a part of what you guys are doing. I'm so proud of you guys. I feel like, you know, I just feel privileged to have you guys as my friends. And I'm just so proud of what you guys do.

You bring the truth out there. And I just love you guys. Well, we go to same, Bree. Yeah, we ditto that with you, Bree, too, because I totally love you. You're one of my best friends. And, you know. My little babies. And Bree, one day when she has her podcast, guys, you will definitely want to subscribe to that because she will, I mean, dude, she's so full of knowledge.

And we are honored to have her on. And, we're definitely going to have you on again soon. And as soon as she gets her own podcast, we'll make sure you guys. guys are aware of what that is and you guys can go follow her there but brie until next time we love you have a great night do not get abducted by aliens or ants i haven't oh no it's the only thing if i get rastured and then they say i got abducted by aliens you'll know what happened i know right and don't get like abducted by ants either chanson yeah i know all right guys well that'll do it for us um we love you breathe peace out have a good night peace out love you guys bye

All right, guys, that was Bree. I don't know. We had a lot to talk about. I thought it was a lot of good stuff. It was a great conversation. Yeah, and we'll definitely have Bree back on. Guys, listen, any questions you have for Bree, anything you thought about what I said or Sherry said or anybody else,

please let us know. This was just a conversation. It was a discussion. It was something that we discussed with Bree. We're not completely, we don't know if we're right or not. We don't know. Now, Brie believes 100% she's right. I believe some of what I said is right.

I don't think as Bree believes her, she's right, but she just believes in the Bible in the word of God. Yeah, I'm just, I'm always one of those that question, I guess. But anyways, but guys, until next time, we love you. Peace out. Love each other and love God. Absolutely. Until then, guys, love you and peace out.