Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFOs in Ancient Paintings & The Bible | Conspiracy Podcast

Episode Date: January 23, 2021

So what is the deal with UFOs in Ancient Paintings? What does the bible say about UFO's? Has the bible tried to tell us about aliens since it was written? Why did so many famous painters paint hidden messages in their paintings, all of that on this episode of Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

Sci-fi has been around since just after the dawn of humankind. Or if you believe in ancient astronauts, sci-fi has been around since slightly before the dawn of man. We have to admit it's a lot harder to disbelieve the notion that something otherworldly once walked among us after looking at these ancient paintings of just that. On tonight's episode, we discussed these amazing pieces of art with depictions of UFOs from thousands of years ago.

Have we known about another civilization since the beginning of time? Did the Bible already tell us of the existence of it? aliens. All of that and more coming right up. And welcome to Investigate Earth podcast. I am your host, Chad, alongside my wife, Sherry. Hello, everybody out there in the interwebs of the world. Hello. How is everyone? Hope everyone is doing fantastic on this Saturday night of January to 23rd, 2021. Guys, thank you for joining us. This is an exciting one. I absolutely love anything about aliens. When you talk about aliens or UFOs, it's incredible. Now, we can sit here all day, all night, always talking about aliens and what's been going on in, you know, I guess recently

the past two, three, four, five years. We can even talk about what's been going on in the past 10, 15, to 20 years, or if you want to go back to the Roswell incidents and all that stuff, from the 40s, in the 50s, and 60s. There have been thousands and thousands of sightings around the world of aliens and UFOs and undidentified flying objects. There have been commissions and groups and government organizations created to try to figure out what these unidentified flying objects are. And they have, you know, so many governments and so many organizations have made reporting features just for this. But when it comes to actually, you know, seeing some of these paintings and things that we're going to talk about tonight and not just the paintings, but we're also going to talk about, you know, what does the Bible say?

And whether you're religious or not, it still is very interesting to just kind of go over some of the things that the Bible does say. Whether you believe the Bible or not, the Bible was written a long time ago. Well, just in any, like, religion, too, like, there's a lot of symbolism of ancient aliens. Yes. Throughout any spiritual, religious, anything, there's definitely symbolism in all religions. Oh, there is. Yeah, for sure. And so that's what we're going to talk about tonight. I mean, there's been famous paintings, cave drawings, tapestries.

I mean, and they've all featured just incredibly bizarre UFO shaped objects and figures. And it's kind of hard not to, you know, say that it is a UFO in these paintings or these, you know, even the cave drawings or any other stuff. All the way from 40,000, what is it? 40,000 years ago. I could not remember what I was saying. No, I mean, yes. From 10,000 to 40,000 years ago. Yes, extremely.

long time. That you're seeing like actual pictures that resemble what we think of UFOs. Yeah. Like way way. So guys, before we get into this, I want to make sure that you guys go over to investigate earthpodcast.com. If you look at the article that says UFOs in ancient paintings, it's going to be right there on the main home screen. You can do this on your phone or your computer. This is going to be the easiest way to listen to us tonight. If you just go to that article, and it should start playing our live feed at the very bottom. And if not, just hit the play button and we'll be live. The reason I say that is because all the paintings that we're going to go over, or at least most of the paintings that we're going to go over tonight, is in a photo gallery on that page.

So all you have to do, go there. And as we talk about them this evening, you guys can scroll through them with us and we can talk about them. And that'll be just an easy way for you guys to keep track of what we're talking about, at least as far as the photos go. So I did want to make sure you do that. Investigateearthpodcast.com. And before I forget, there is a community tab. go there, sign up. It is a social media type environment. We're going to have private messaging here in the next few days. And so you already can have a profile.

It's a forum type deal. But you guys can talk about whatever you like. And we can discuss stuff we talk about on the show. Or you guys can reach out to us and for any show ideas that you guys have. We would love to hear them as well. So did want to let you know. Obviously, we do have social media. You can look us up on any of the social media, except for Twitter.

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I do it very quickly because I know people don't want to hear that crap But So It is crazy And so There's been a lot of stuff going on in 2020 2021 already even 2019, 2018

And And there's just been so many things. You know, there was that what some scientists and especially the Harvard professor is saying an object that came through our solar system that is from another civilization. This is the head of Harvard astronomy. And, you know, when you start talking about stuff like this, you know, they believe that this was a object that was made by a civilization, by a smart civilization. And so his theory on that was, you know, it could be trash that they no longer wanted or got rid of. Or it could be some type of craft to come through here. Now, obviously, they didn't come to Earth.

They did come, you know, close to Earth, but they kind of warped around the sun. They did come close to Earth, but not close enough to really investigate or do any of that stuff. And then just warped on through. They accelerated. Yeah, and it was warping. Yeah, it was accelerated. Because it was like tremendous speeds, right? Yeah, it was, well, it was crazy speeds, but it also showed acceleration, which no comet or asteroid does.

Right. Right. Nothing. So that's another weird thing. And actually, the guy that talks about that, we reached out to him today. So hopefully we can get him on the podcast. He is the Harvard professor. And so we'll see if he replies to us. Hopefully we can because that'd be very interesting and talk to him. We saw him on Joe's podcast.

But we have our own questions we want to talk to him about that I think, I think Joe didn't quite mention or at least ask on the show. So anyways. So it's crazy. There are tons of stuff. There's tons of people that believe so many of these religious paintings are proof that, you know, basically intelligent life and flying saucers have been witnessed by ancient societies and people even in biblical days. And before. Yeah.

I mean, and the paintings were created centuries before. air travel or any of that stuff ever existed. You know, these paintings were created before there was such thing in social media or media period. I mean, you know, the only way they would be able to know what these things could possibly even look like would be to see them. Exactly. Or make them up, right?

So it's one of the two. But the weird thing is, is that we look back in some of these images that we're going to talk about here briefly and, or not briefly, but here in a minute. And then we also can kind of compare these images to things that we're, we've seen and not we but you know people now um you know today civil session yeah fighter pilots yeah fighter pilots have have seen and and and kind of said what they look like we can even compare it to bob lazar's story of kind of what these crafts resembled and looked like and how they operated and um and it's all strangely very similar it is and it's just so i mean just researching today

you know we've researched aliens for a long i mean this is it was chad's passion but now it's mine too It's just so interesting, but just researching today, I was like getting goosebumps with all the things that were in common and related to each other and how it all kind of is adhesive, I guess. Yeah, it is. It all kind of goes together. It gives me goosebumps. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. So historians say that they insist, if you ask historians on this matter, which are, you know, usually people that only want to, that's the problem I have with this world and the science community in general are closed. minded people. And, you know, historians say that there's a simple explanation. They believe that it could just, you know, whatever is appearing to be a UFO in these

paintings could actually represent angels or the sun and the moon. Exactly, yeah. And we're going to all, hopefully, you guys are on our article page on investigate earthpodcast.com of what we're talking about right now. And you guys can look and we'll talk about them for yourself. So, you know, one of the real famous ones. And, well, we'll go more in detail on that stuff in just a minute. But one of the more famous ones, if you guys are on the actual slideshow right now,

and if you go over to the baptism of Christ, which is 1710, and it basically shows John the Baptist and Jesus, and that is when John the Baptist was baptized in Jesus. And it shows this craft in the sky. And this craft looks like it's beaming down some kind of light down. Or some kind of whatever that is. A beaming light going down on Jesus, you know, on his body from his head down. Yeah, I mean, it just appears as shining some kind of beams of light.

And the mysterious scene was actually painted by Flemish artist Art de Gelder, if I say that correctly. Many claim that this is one of the most convincing examples of UFOs being highlighted in ancient art is this particular painting. Right. And if you look at it, what else could it be? Yeah, I mean, even this particular image, and if you guys scroll over, just find the image on the actual slideshow. And looking at where the UFO is in the sky, it looks like modern day what we explain UFOs to look like. Totally. Yeah, a saucer.

And this was in 1700s, did you say? Well, the painting was painted in 1710. Yeah, 1710. I mean, that was a long time ago. It was a long time ago, obviously long after Jesus was baptized, but still. And I'm not exactly sure what the deal was with that. You know, there's a theory that suggests the painting is a reference to a passage in the Gospels on how the heavens opened and the spirit descended like a dove. Oh, and doves have a lot of symbols with UFOs and aliens.

Yeah, and put lightning upon him. You know, that's, you know, I guess one. one particular? Well, I think a lot of them back then believed the heavens were the UFOs and aliens. That when the heavens opened, it was actually, like, you know, we talked about like men are things falling from the sky from the heavens. Yes. So, you know, some people might think it's just the heavens opening up, but it's just where that there's, you know, a spherical, not or oval type. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't even understand how you can even understand how you can even. compare that to an angel or whatever they're trying to say. It doesn't make sense because that looks nothing like an angel that I've ever seen or, I mean, that I've ever been described, I mean. Or a moon or a star.

Yeah, it just doesn't make sense. But in the Bible, it says the heavens are opening up. Yeah, and it's weird. And this is not the only painter, you know, our artist that paints paintings like this. No, it's not. So, you know, the next photo we're going to go to, guys. And if you guys want to just go to the first image on our article, it is something that Sherry's been studying.

It's the painting. It's actually the alien in Leonardo da Vinci's mirrored painting. So it's not actually a mirrored painting. It's St. John the Baptist is the painting. And so the thing is that if you mirror this painting, meaning if you flip it basically, it shows an alien, right? Yeah, it does. What were you going to say?

Well, you've been studying a lot of the Leonardo da Vinci stuff. I mean, I'm just saying back then, you know, Leonardo da Vinci, he was during the Renaissance era. And back then Roman Catholic was really big. And it was forbidden to think outside that religion. Yes. So a lot of people say that he painted these things for like hints or symbols for the future to know what he knew. Yeah. Like a lot of people believe that he actually, you know,

was either with aliens or was told by these ancestry aliens that had some kind of connection with aliens something just went out anyway so

well the thing is is what you're trying to say I guess is he wasn't allowed to paint things like that yeah he would have been in big trouble whatever so instead of painting it for people to see it he made clues

for and he knew that the people of that time would not understand that way i think he was hoping for the future people like us we would be able to read these clues and find out about you know and our and our alien ancestors yeah and so what chad was talking about in this painting this you know the john the baptist painting if you mirror it like put a mirror and mirror the well not a mirror but mirror the image basically flip it yeah yeah flip it in the middle of the image it looks just like an alien and you guys can see the on our website if you're on our website right now it's the first image in the the gallery.

So that's not actually what the original image looks like. It only looks like, just look at the left side. It has half of the alien. But if like you said, if you flip it, it shows the whole alien of what we would like think aliens look like. And I mean, this was back in the 1500s that he painted this. Yeah. And I'll be honest.

Like when I look at the original painting, I can't even see what it would even look like as an alien unless you flip it. And then if you look at like John the Baptist, his hand is pointing up towards the heavens. Yeah. telling you where this alien came from, the heavens. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, it's insane.

So that's the first one, and it's just one of many. So the next one, you know, if you look at the next one, it's called the crucifixion. And it was painted in 1350. It depicts a small human-looking man looking over his shoulder at another UFO in pursuit as he flies across the sky in what is clearly a spaceship. The painting hangs above the altar at the, I think it's the Vasoki, the Connie, monastery in Kosovo, Yugoslavia. And so this is a famous painting that was painted 1350. It shows basically what looks to be two crafts, which is incredible.

Yeah, and they're saying that people think that these are either angels or the sun in the moon. Yeah, I mean, but it doesn't look anything like a sun of the moon or angels. It looks like some type of person in a craft. Yeah, it actually looks like a craft that would come down from a, another larger spaceship or something. And I read something about back then, you know, it was not appropriate to give like the sun and the moon faces.

And there's a whole body in these things. So that went against what they believed back then. Yeah. And that's the actual painting. And they have actual like little bodies in these things. And they did to me, they don't represent angels or sun and moon. It looks like a person in a craft. And if you see like the lines going down, like it's coming down over Jesus while he was

crucified. Yeah, which is weird. But a lot of people, I mean, this is weird, Chad, but I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of people think that Jesus was of alien orientation. Yeah. That he was actually part alien. Hmm. Is what I read.

Yeah, that's the interesting theory. I mean, like I said, that's why these aliens are over him. Yeah, if you look into this stuff, it kind of starts making your mind warp a little bit because it's like, wait a minute, like everything that I've ever known about a certain thing. Like, is there things that age? A, I didn't understand, because we're only taught one way, especially in the Bible. You know, you're only taught the way that you're not, here's the thing. Preachers everywhere around the world will say you have to interpret what the Bible means, right?

But it's their interpretation. Yeah, exactly. But that's what I'm saying. You have to interpret what the Bible means, but it's only the way they want to interpret it. But, you know, we're going to read something in just a little bit as far as the interpretation of a verse, which is incredible verse to me because it's in the Bible something that I've never maybe I have heard it but maybe

I didn't think of it the way that I guess I did today especially looking into this but you know interpretation is is up for interpretation I mean and that's you know it's whatever you think is closely the most closely or the most close thing they're talking about

and yeah you can interpret that something it was an angel but you know and I think that's like if I asked a pastor on a verse that we're going to talk about here in just a little bit, what his interpretation of that same verse would be, I guarantee you a pastor would probably say, well, it's probably angels, is what they're talking about. But what if, what if, you know, like in the Bible it says, you know, when my time is coming close to, you know, to when, when Jesus comes back, you know, if you believe in

Jesus, then you will see signs from the heavens, you know, and that's what it says. And in the Bible everywhere, it mentions it refers to heavens as basically the universe, space. Right. You know. And a lot of these paintings and things that, you know, been created way before our times has to do with the aliens with these certain things. I lost my train and thought. But what I'm saying is that a lot of these come from people believing that there is

some kind of type of where aliens have come down from generations and generations and almost like genetically, we have some of their DNA from aliens. But what if, what if this, I mean, we're going to move on with the paintings. I know this is getting crazy deep, but just think about this. Like, what if aliens are people from when you die? Maybe they're both. Maybe there's, you know, maybe, you know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people, some people believe when you die, you go to another dimension, right?

Some people believe that we, there are other dimensions right now. So they're, you know, we're living in one. dimension and there are other dimensions. And sometimes people think that even they're living in this dimension, they can travel to another dimension while they're in this dimension. Yeah, well, some people have tried that with DMT, for example, which is a drug that opens your mind almost like 100%. And so basically when people do DMT, which Joe Rogan talks about a lot and a bunch of people,

but there have been studies on DMT, which DMT is actually profoundly produced by animals, more so than people. That's one of the reasons why they believe that even though DMT is not produced, on a mass scale in animals is produced more than we do in some animals. And so for those animals that produce more DMT, such as dogs and certain other creatures, some of their senses are much more heightened. So meaning, for example, there have been dogs that have known their owners or whoever had cancer. You know, they would be sniffing a place or whatever that literally some owners found out they had cancer from their dog.

They're like for example There are people that walk up our road and Our dogs can't even see them can't hear them or anything And they know they're coming before they even get here Yeah and they're at the window barking before they're even here Yeah there are all those things Dogs since storm We have dogs that sent storms before they're even close

They start freaking out But so the people that have done DMT together like six or seven people The strange thing about it is there's been multiple studies And multiple group experiments that these people do DMT They go out basically for 10 to 15 minutes minutes straight. They're gone. They're inside of their brain, but their brain is pretty much like opened up, you know, to where we only use 10% of our brain. It opens up like 50 to 70% in some cases. And the weird thing about all these instances is the people that do DMT together

usually experience the same experience. And I'm talking about, you know, these people, for example, went and did DMT and they all were in this field. And it was, it was, it was, maybe like, I don't know if it was a cornfield or whatever they described it as. And this is a study. But they all saw these creatures coming out of the, I don't know if it was hay or like tall grass. And they all had their hands up. And they all described them as aliens trying to communicate with them.

And the weird thing about their experiences, even though they didn't know these creatures were saying stuff, they somehow understood something that they said, even though they didn't, but they did, if that makes any sense. Right. Yeah. They understood them without them. having the language. It just kind of went into their mind. Yeah. And when they came back, they had a new profound look on a lot of different things, even though they couldn't recall exactly what these creatures were trying to communicate with them.

But it did do something to what they felt about themselves or whatever after the fact. And so that's a big thing that DMT is, is like, how is that possible without, unless that DMT opens your mind to be able to see beyond your dimension that you're in? Or, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And what if maybe these ancient people had abilities to open their minds because aliens told them and showed them what they needed to know and how to learn and what to, I mean, they gave them the intelligence they needed to do certain things that are impossible to do way back then. For example, even the pyramids, that they were built perfectly, perfect structures or even like the stone hedge. you know, everything built in our, you know, back in our ancestor times was also built because of the heavens. Like everything was always because of the sky.

Yeah. If you like look at all these different like buildings and structures all over the world. And even in North America, there's all kinds of weird things. Well, and you know also that the pyramids, which we're not going to go too deep in this, we can have a whole podcast on the pyramids. But, you know, the pyramids were built in a way. By the way, in a lot of instances, they were built on a scale. It wasn't a scale, but it was an actual map. And it aligned with certain stars.

Yeah, to Orion, I think. Yes. And it was exactly in line. In line with it. Yeah, it had to do with, like, all that stuff. And a lot of people say that there's no way that people back then would even... Could have done that. Could have understood it.

Knew what they were even doing. And they did. And not only that, I mean, these pyramids are, works of immaculate art. And not to mention, I don't know if you guys have been to the pyramid. I haven't. But what I'm saying is that these boulders they used were massive. Massive.

And the only thing that we can come up with is they use some kind of, you know, I don't know. A police system. There's one thing that has always been done when talking about aliens or anything outside of this. And it's always been, there's more people that want to debunk aliens than they want to prove the existence. And that's the biggest problem that we're facing. Right. And so you know how the pyramids were built towards the sky in a certain way. This is going to get you.

This is crazy. All right. You're thinking about Egyptian people. All right. There is one beetle, and I forgot the name of the beetle, but this beetle is, it was just, it was not discovered in 2017, but people discovered in 2017. This is the only bug they found that goes in a straight line no matter what's in their path. And the line they follow is the line of the Milky Way.

It goes in a straightforward past. and this is some kind of beetle. Well, if you look at Egyptian and the beetle has significance to aliens. If you look at the beetle, a lot of the Egyptians paintings, you'll see like their faces covered by the beetle. And then some way they thought that this beetle... So this beetle was around back then? Yeah.

Okay. In Egyptian times. And if you look at like some of the Egyptian paintings, they have the beetle on their face and they have like some of them that are at, as a god because they think that the beetle knew the straight line having to do with the aliens and then at that on top of the like where they have the picture of their the beetle on their face they have like this they have a representation of UFOs with like the that beetle symbol in it and it was and it has to it has all to do with like the heavens and the earth and the way that

the horizontal alignment of like you know all that crazy yeah that's insane it was so I mean I don't know. I mean, I just saw a little, I like read a little thing about it. I don't really know anything about it, but I just thought that was really weird. It is interesting. And not until 2017 did we realize that was the only bug or anything that we have found that goes in a straight line like that. That is crazy. And that's where a lot of the, that beetle comes from the Egyptian paintings. And they're saying that it has to do with alien and UFOs.

Hmm. Yeah, that's, I mean, stuff like that. It's just amazing. So the next image that is on the gallery is the French Gitan. It was used in substitution of legal tender in games. The one on the far right from 1680 shows what appears to be a UFO flying in there, and it has an intriguing Latin inscription that translates to, it is here at an opportune time.

So that is an actual currency, and that is from 1680. And where is this from? And this is from, it's the French. Gitan. It was used as a substitution of legal tender in games. So the one in the far right from 16.8 shows what appears to be a UFO. And the weird thing is the Latin

inscription, it translates to it is here at an at an opportune time. Opportunine time. Yeah, and if you look at all the images there, they all look like UFOs. The one in the middle, the one on the right, the one on the left, they all look exactly like UFOs. And this was tender. And you know,

the weird thing was, is that if you look at the middle gold piece, It has a UFO in the sky and then it has like these little arrow things like pointing up to it. It almost looks as if whatever the, I guess the UFO, it almost looks like it is pulling things up. I think that's kind of what is that supposed to look like. And then if you look at the far right image, it's got this UFO in a sphere. It's got what maybe looks like clouds around it is what I would think over like. That looks like almost an ocean.

Well, I don't know. Ocean or clouds, maybe, or land. It could be land because it looks like a little building there. Oh, okay. And then on the far left, the first image, or the first coin, it has a UFO as well. It looks like clouds again. I think they tried to depict the sky there. And it has the same exact, pretty much the same exact ground or whatever that is.

I mean, it looks like the buildings there. So that's all very strange. And, you know, the interesting thing is the Latin description says it is here at an opportune time. So whatever that means. 16, let's see, 1680. Well, even in France and Spain, they had a lot of drawings way back when about aliens and UFOs, even there. Yeah, exactly. That I was, I think I was watching a discovery program or something.

And the next image is the baptism of Christ, and we talked about that one. Like I said, that one's in crazy. Is that a different one or the same? No, it's the same one that we talked about. It's just, I wanted to get to that one first because I was on an image to begin with. But yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, I don't know. Why, you know, 1710, why would you, like, how would you, how or why would you paint that? Because, I mean, the only thing I can think of is like, if, okay, for example, here's a good example of this.

This is a good example of the baptism of Christ that was painting in 1710. You know, when you start reading Bible verses talking about angels in the sky, for example. So if they want to say that, if they want to say whoever the painter was or whatever the case is, if they want to say that this was an angel, right? Because, you know, maybe people in 1710 and before saw these things in the sky. And maybe they thought those were it. And if they read the Bible, well, if they read the Bible, they're going to think, okay, well, things from the sky. Yeah, it's an angel.

So I think that's maybe how the depiction of aliens, even in the Bible times. Right. We're angels. When they say angels come down from the sky, I think it, maybe a lot of times they were talking about UFOs. And isn't it just weird? This one was in 1700. 1710, yeah. Divincis were in 1500s.

Yeah. Same exact type pictures. Yes, weird. And in a way different error. And the funny thing is, the really funny thing about this images, and this is what I want all of you to understand. The baptism of Christ, okay, or of Jesus Christ. this artist obviously wanted to depict angels what what what they and people before them believed were angels coming from the sky and they painted a UFO by interpreting the Bible too what the Bible meant what the Bible said and then what they had seen before right you know what I mean and so how would how are you going to say it's any different and I can't wait to go back to this image and talk about this when I read the Bible verse coming up because that's going to be insane so stay tuned for that I promise you don't want to that. Okay, so the next image

on the list is a cave painting, and this is from CA-10,000 BC. It is from Val Kamakina whatever, Italy. It appears to depict two beings in protective suits holding strange, some kind of

strange, yeah, strange things. They're holding something. And so if you look at a cave painting, it's weird. I mean, it looks like a Space suit. Yeah, it looks like a space suit with like something around their head. And this is from 10,000 BC before Christ. Yeah.

How would they even know to paint a space suit? Like back then I think about, you know, there were still like hunters and gatherers and didn't have much intelligence back then. I don't know. I mean, it literally looks like if you look at the... Or maybe they had intelligence that just had ways to communicate those intelligence. And guys, I hope you're looking at these images. And if you're not, you have to go look at these images.

We're talking about after the fact that you can't see them. But I'll describe it. It's two figures in white-looking suits. Just imagine, like, if you had chalk and you were trying to draw an astronaut. Yeah, an astronaut. That's why they talk about ancient astronauts. And you had an ancient astronaut,

and so you drew this white suit, even almost looks like little boots they're wearing, to be honest with you. And then you draw a bubble. Everything else is colored in on their suits and stuff, but then you draw like a line around the head of clearness, and then you also draw all these little things or I don't know what these things would be around them

looks like little barbs of some kind but they're holding something and if you notice there's a background around that that's like kind of hazy white compared to the actual rock color yeah because I think they did use like shading almost and to me that would almost represent heavens

or clouds or something in the sky yeah I agree yeah it's a good point like damn I mean And see, I mean, that's the thing. That's 10,000 BC. Yeah, I mean, yeah. So the next image we have is the wand Gina cave paintings from Kimberly, Australia. It was estimated to be 5,000 years old and is believed to represent alien beings.

And these are cave paintings. So in this image, you know, it's 6 of 24, by the way. I don't know. It looks like someone in a straight jacket on the right. It looks like a bunch of weird people on the left. It looks like skulls almost. But if you look at the skulls, they look like the head is like whiter on the top and then it goes narrow to the bottom.

And it's got black eyes. Big black eyes. That's another key feature. It's got a white... They have an alien appearance. Yeah, it's got like a white light bulb looking head. Right? It's got a neck that kind of goes down with a head.

It's got big black eyes. A nose. And then they got clothes on. So why would you have a skull with clothes on? Yeah, and they have clothes. Yeah. So that would not make sense to have a deperson school. And they almost got hair, too.

Yeah. So this would be one image that it does look like aliens. Oh, look at this around the neck. That looks like an alien to me for sure. The bottom part where they have like some kind of ring. You know how a lot of pictures you see the ring around their neck? I think that's the top of their shirt or something. But the funny thing is they all had the same outfits.

Yeah. It's almost like a uniform. Yeah. I mean, now here's the thing. And even the picture on the right, which is a looks different, but same uniform type, the black thing in the middle. I don't know what that is. Oh, yeah.

That's right. That little oval black thing. Yeah, they all have it. And it looks like this guy is like holding something on the right. Like in his arm maybe. It looks like a weapon. But I don't know. It looks like there were first graders when they drew this.

I don't know. Look at their fingers. But all I know are what I think is I think people from our past, I think they really learned from aliens. I believe that too. But the weird thing is this image could be anything, but it does look like, it's weird. I mean, it could be like some weird people back in a day that they depicted in the image. This is one of the, to me, this number six of 24 image is the least convincing, even though it is, it depends on how you look at it.

I mean, I don't know. It could be. But you have to think way back then, like we were talking earlier. But the closed thing is what gets me. Yeah, it does. And you think about like way back then? That's the only reason I would think maybe the closed thing is people. I don't want to cut you out.

Yeah. It looks like people. You're right. It's fine. Way back then. Well, I was just going to say way back then, places weren't inhabited like they are today. And so we do see people seeing aliens. We have reports every day, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But I think back then since the earth wasn't covered in civilization back then, I think they had more of a chance to interact with aliens than we do now. Yeah. I agree. It's strange. And I, you know, you're talking about the, yeah, because it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't, this earth wasn't inhabited like it is now. And so aliens could have just, you know, I don't know. I think it would have been easier for them to communicate with our ancestors than it is now. Because, you know, we've changed so much and our civilization is so different that, but I think back then, you know, everyone says they, you know, they looked at gods in the sky. But I think the gods were aliens. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, yeah, if, yeah, if you look at it that way. Yeah, because there's going to be a Bible verse we're going to talk about that talks about that, too.

So you're 100% right. So, number, image. Oh, that looks like the beetle I was talking about right there. The beetle. That looks like a person to me. Is that from Egypt? Well, hold on. Let me say where we're on.

So we're on the next image, guys. And it looks like British ships or something. But it's from the works of Admiral Ballou in the Theatrum Orbis Terum. It's the first true modern Atlas written by Abraham Ortelius and originally Perfection May 28th, 1570 is when this was from.

The painting documents an encounter that happened when while it's see, Dutch ships cited two disc-shaped objects hovering in the sky. And this painting depicts what these Dutch ships back in 1570 saw. It is strange, whatever. I mean, their painting sucks kind of because that looks like gold medals.

It looks like the beetle. It looks like gold medals in Olympics. And this was the same era as Da Vinci. But you can tell like the boats are painted. All right, this is what's weird about this painting. Oh, you lost it from. Oh, you're good. What's weird about this painting is on the bottom.

It looks more like a Renaissance-type painting. But the top where I guess what is the alien, it's not a Renaissance-type image. Yeah, they didn't depict these aliens. They did. But what I was saying, maybe they did that on purpose. Looks like a bunch of... I don't know. You know what I was saying, Chad?

Yeah, I know. I guess. This is, like, a normal picture of, like, what you would see in the Renaissance times with, like, two ships in the ocean. But the way that they drew these two disc-shaped things. Yeah, circles, but they didn't do a good job of drawing. These circles, they're not the same time period of painting. Does that make sense? No, yeah.

I know what you're saying, yeah. Like, it just stands out, like, a sore thumb, maybe. So that was image 7 to 24. Eight of 24, you know, we get on to the UFO painting. is from 1803. There was a book written about Umi Nochiri that said the foreign ship and crew

was spotted on the... I'm just reading our thing here. God, I can't read. Why does it say... Okay. Spotted on the side of the Heratoshama Hatachi, Japan. The UFO is made of metal and glass and had strange writings on it.

This is the artist's rendition of the flying saucer or spaceship. And it's just basically a saucer, which looks like a flying saucer. Strange thing is how small this thing is. Okay, compare this drawing to the coins we just saw. Do you see the indentions, the dark and light stripes? Yeah.

If you compare that to the coins from France or wherever it was, wouldn't that be the same type of figure that they had? This looks like the coins. Yeah, but the thing is, this little spaceship thing looks like is small, which is weird, unless they just didn't depict it, you know, that way. But, oh, that's a Japanese painting. That was an 1803. or not painting as a drawing but i don't know this this one's weird to me had to put it in here

because it's one of them but well i'm just saying it has it okay japanese people and other like they're like far away from each other and isn't does it who's far away from each other what you're just saying like japanese and japan and france they weren't really close way back then they didn't know what each other was doing yeah so i'm saying why do they have paintings that like so similar oh yeah i don't know i mean you're saying this is kind of weird or whatever but it really does You picked a flying saucer. And the same is like people in France saw. Yeah, I mean, there's old Chinese.

So the next image, 9-24 is the old Chinese illustration from 1400 AD. And I don't know. It looks like a chariot of some kind in the sky with a wheel. Oh, I read a lot about that in the Bible. The chariot with the wheel. No, we read about that today about wheels. And we're going to talk about that. But that's weird because this is in 1400 AD.

Okay, well, that has to be right from the Bible. Will? No, I don't know. It's a chariot in the sky with a will. Yeah, but it's not the same because when we read the Bible verses, yeah, you'll see us. It don't depict the people in this thing. It's not the same. Those look like little Chinese dudes. Well, and they got like, you know, flags of some kind.

And they got a broken wheel. So they're going right for sure because it looks like it's not broken. It's in the clouds. Well, they're going right, though. They're turning. Oh, my God. Chad, you're being dumb. No, I'm not.

Okay, so anyways, image, I think this is, what is it, 9 of 24, I believe? Yeah, so image 9 of 24, which I'm just, yeah, sorry, 10 of 24. Looks like stick figures. It's a cave painting from Kolo Tanzania estimated to be up to 29,000 years old, showing four entities surrounding a woman. There is also an entity looking down from inside some sort of box or object. And that looks like a deer. They're just looking down on.

And then... But the entities are pointing to her belly. Which tells me... Well, I don't even see her. She's in the middle. Okay. But they're sticks figures. This is a human and then these are probably the alien.

Well, this does not like a human right there. Well, none of them look like humans. Yeah. But I'm saying they're all like pointing to her belly, like fertility or something. Is what I get out of it. Or they're trying to get her. You know what? My mind is way bigger than yours.

No. It's more open. Obviously not. It's open. But anyways. So, yeah, that's a weird image, 10 of 24. But a lot of these paintings had to do with fertility way back then. Yeah, then you got cave paintings from Aitolo, Tanzania estimated to be up to 29,000 years old

depicting several disc-shaped objects. These are cave paintings. And they're from Tanzania, and they are estimated to be 29,000 years old, guys. I mean, this is image 11 of 24. Check it out. It looks like either someone threw two hats in the sky from a horse race. Oh my gosh. Or it is UFOs.

But if you read into it, Chad, look. Look at the two pictures. Yeah. Do you see the lines below? Yeah. And the lines cross and then the four dots? I don't know. I think the lines in the back are ships in the distance.

Yeah, it could be. And then you see the four dots in the front? Yeah, I don't know. So I think the lines are representing where these things are going, which is down. Yeah, I get that. That makes sense. And then in the middle, well, you've got in the middle, you've got ships in the distance. And then the four is probably, maybe it depicts of what they saw actually in the sky before it came down.

Yeah. That is weird. And that's from 20,000 years ago. Yeah, maybe I was from there. Maybe you're from there. Yeah. Maybe I'm from that time. How are you talking about it?

So, anyways, artistic reper. 12 of 24 is an artistic reproduction of a relief found in Labyrinth on the island of Jotua in the Toachan Lake. And don't know, don't have a date on this is an extremely long time ago. Thousands of years ago, I believe, is this image as well. But it looks like basically two people, the strange thing about this is it looks like UFOs with some deer down there. It has some people on spears. It's got people in ships with guns. Yeah, it looks like these people, the spears, are killing the deer, right?

And then above them is the people in the UFO. They don't look alien like they look a human. And it looks like they have, like, big, clear helmets on in the spacecraft. Yeah, they also have guns. And they have guns. Looks like an AR-15. Like, it really does. Like, if you look at the image, it looks like an AR-15 with a scope.

And the gun is pointed toward the deer too. Yeah, strange. Both of them are. So maybe that says people on the ground are trying to get the food. And so are the people that were visiting. They worship the people in the heavens because they know the people in the heavens are going to provide them the food. I don't know. Maybe.

They can help them. Maybe that's one of the depictions. I don't know. That's a weird thing. It does look like an AR-15 though. So anyways, I mean, that's incredible weird. But 13 or 24, if you look closely at the painting, it's the La Tabad, done sometime in early 1460 by Paolo Uselo.

You can see a strange UFO flying saucer type object to the right under the cross. There's another one of Jesus in a UFO. Yeah, the painting is currently hanging at the Academy of Florence, and this was 1460. So it has Jesus Christ hanging on the cross. It has trees. Down below him. It does. But it also, sorry.

It also has, strangely enough, it has people down here, and it looks like a church service of some kind with Jesus in the background. Okay. And then it looks like another creature crawling up to Jesus, which I don't know if they pointed that out. Oh, this is like, this is up close of the painting. Yeah, this is far away. But if you look at the far away picture on the left, it looks like some kind of alien-looking creature crawling up towards Jesus. If you look at that, and I mean, I don't know what else that is. Okay, so the UFO is right here.

Right here in that part. Yeah, it's right. They're underneath Jesus. They're coming and pick up their son. Maybe. And it looks like some creature going to Jesus right here. Mm-hmm. Like on this mountain or something.

It's strange. And Jesus was crucified on a mountain. Yeah, and this is 1460. This was painted. Well, it's weird that. And it's clear that there's a UFO there. Why don't you see the other two people in a lot of these paintings? The real suitments or whatever.

I don't know. I have no idea. It's weird. I don't know. Maybe that's not what the painting. was about. It's more about I think maybe it was their connection of Jesus and these crafts.

Yeah. And so I guess the other two were not of an importance to paint. No, because they didn't have anything to do with the crafts. Yeah. I think when you talk about angels, what they called angels. Yep. I'm definitely saying that Jesus has something to do with something. So anyways, so the next one, uh, 14 and 24

is an ancient alien cave painting showing strange, suited figure found in Kaiv. It dates to 4,000 BC. And so it's a cave painting. This is a painting? Yeah. It looks like something metal.

Yeah, I know. I think they recreated the painting or something. But it looks like an alien of some sort in metal. And in the Bible, you see a lot of things referring to like glowing meadow or metal and stuff, right? Yeah. All right. So let's move on. So the next.

This painting is awesome. Yeah, it's amazing. So next one is 15 to 24. in this stunning painting is called the Annunciation from 1486 by the hands of Carlo Crivelli. You see an amazing image

of a UFO beaming down light towards a building and through a window. A stream of light from God or a message from somewhere beyond the heavens. And this is from 1486. So I'm going to ask you, who do you guys think the beam of

light is going, who is it on? Well, the weird thing is on the girl. Yeah, and who do you think the girl is? I have no idea. I think it's Mary. Why do you think that? Because everything is so religious and she's got a halo and she's like praying on the ground. If you, like, that's not a good picture of it. Oh, it is. I mean, you just can't. I can't really see. That's supposed, that I think represents Mary or one of the two Marys. Okay. Yeah, so you got this alien spacecraft thing from the sky, beaming down some light to this girl, which Sherry, believes is Mary. It's Mary.

Into this like Roman cathedral, like, I don't know, beautiful. This is supposedly before she got pregnant with Jesus. I don't know. This is from 1486. I know, but I think it's, I don't know what it's depicted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be. I mean, it could be depicting. Yeah, and you're right, but I'm just saying the painting. Yeah. So you're right. It could be depicting something obviously well before 1486. So that's same time as Da Vinci and they're depicting the same type of thing. Yeah. Isn't it weird? A lot of the 14.

1400 people. But when I was reading, it was only Da Vinci that was like really brilliant and intelligent. But I guess in like these paintings, they don't really hide it. It's right out in front of you. Yeah. And then number 16 is a French picture from literature, Lee Le Vres des Bonnes Moors by Jaquez-Lagrand, a book of French works from 1388. Speculation of the object was a balloon, but during the period in time, there were no such devices yet. So this is a picture that, you know, shows some balloon-type thing in the sky.

And they're looking at it. Well, one person is anyway. But I don't know. I don't know if that, I don't really see any significance to that painting necessarily. I do. What are those yellow things around it? I have no idea. It looks like angels going into the sky.

Could be. I don't know. I'm not sure what the wooden thing. Yeah, it looks like it's wood. Like it's wood and it's got a lot of, like, detail on it. And back then they probably, like, made things that had a lot of detail. I don't know. Yeah, that's weird.

But it just... Yeah, I don't know. It's strange. It's, to me, what stands out is the yellow things around it, too. So the next image is Native American rock art showing alien-like beings from Sego Canyon, Utah. It's estimated to be 5,500 BC. So, alien-like beings, you know, yeah. I mean, if you look at 1724 guys, it looks like these... figures. By the way, there's one thing that I keep seeing in these images.

It's the big eyes. Well, the big eyes and the light bulb shape heads. It's almost like, it's almost like, I don't know. Now, I was watching a video of a Native American Indian that was talking about their ancestors and how they do all their dances and what they dance for. Yeah. Well, you know, these are the things that they would, you know, do their dances for and they worship them as gods. And he believes. believes they worship the aliens as gods. Yeah. And I swear to God.

No, no, yeah, sure. Yeah, I agree. No, I mean, and it is passed on from generation. And a lot of it was communicated orally, but they have some picture. What is it called pictographs or whatever? These are the pictographs that show it, but it's been communicated in their tribes, like generation after generation after generation. And he said that they worship the people in the sky.

And, you know, we all know that. They, you know, they worship different things for, you know, if they needed rain or they needed, you know, to hunt or whatever. They did rain dances. They did all that stuff. Yeah. I agree. It's weird. I mean, yeah.

I mean, and when we get to the Bible part of this, which is going to be, it's not going to be long. We can talk a whole two, three podcasts about the Bible and aliens and UFOs. But there is a couple of things I definitely want to point out to you guys if you add any questions on that. We got to, I'm going to, I'm going to read. I'm going to read. It's crazy. So 18 of 24 scriptures from the ancient Incas who were much more advanced

than other similar civilizations of their time. Displayed are two flying saucers. The Inca civilization was close in contact with aliens. Their advanced mathematics, astronomical charts, and calendars are attributed to extraterrestrial visitors. And this is ancient, like basically sculptures that they made. And it shows a little guy,

little whatever with like a little vest on it looks like out of clay yeah with yeah it was like with two flying saucers um so yeah but it's funny how they make the man bigger than the flying saucers in a lot of these like portraits yeah and these could be like single size UFOs or so i i don't know it's strange but maybe they just didn't think about the like size the proportion yeah the proportion to like they just wanted to tell the story of a saucer and a person yeah but to me if i was telling the story i'd have this great big saucer and then little. Yeah, it's weird.

I don't understand that either. Yeah, there might be some kind of significance around that. So 19 of 24, it is believed that aliens visited the planet long ago, helping advance civilization as steering human history. If Moses received the T of command or the whatever of commandments from aliens, then many points of the Bible and other religions of the past can easily be explained. The painting is from a other religions, sorry, this painting is from a wood. drawer kept at Earl DeLorman in Belgium.

And so it basically shows that aliens visited the planet a long time ago. And it shows like the Ten Commandment looking thing. I mean, that's what it looks like. And that's what Moses had. The Ten Commandments, yeah. And then it shows things in the sky. Yeah, it looks like little like spacecraft in the background. Yeah, I guess.

Which is, yeah, who knows? But I mean, why would you put that in that? Okay, well, even people believe Noah had something. to do with aliens. His grandfather has something to do with aliens if you dig deeper. I agree.

Like, I've been digging. I'm not kidding. And this is what I've just found. I had no clue that people, like, think that way or have dug this way or found conclusions this way. I'm like, I'm telling you I have goosebumps. Like, thinking outside the box.

So image 20 of 24, illustration from the 12th century manuscript, Annalise, Larsensis. It documents a siege of of Sigaberg Castle in France. And this image in the year...

France. Let's see. What is this? What is the year of this? If my... I'm sorry, I'm reading this on my phone. In the year 776, the Saxons had surrounded the French and were about to breach the castle when flaming shields appeared

and hovered over the church. The Saxons thinking the French were being protected by these beings, fled in terror. So it's from the 12th century, it's year 776, and they were surrounded, about to breach a castle with the flaming shields in the sky. Okay, look at the flaming shields and compare them to Jesus' crucifix, whatever. Crucifixion? Thank you. It looks like the same picture.

No. Yeah, it does. It doesn't, though. It has like the little things around it. And then two big ones. I'm telling you. It looks very similar. I don't know.

I'm not sure about that. Oh my gosh, Dad. It does. Well, okay, anyways, 21 of 24, cave painting 6,000 BC from Tassili Sahara Desert, North Africa, showing a being with a possible spacesuit helmet on as well as a disshaped object above it. And this is from 6,000 BC before Christ, and it's from Sahara Desert. It has a person with like a weird head-looking thing, and it looks like spacecrafts in the dang sky, man. See, these are some of the...

you believe in any of this. Oh, absolutely. Then why wouldn't you say that they compare at all? It looks just like the other pictures. To me, that doesn't compare whatsoever. Go to that one and go to the crucification picture.

I can't say right now, that one picture that we were talking about. Yes, it does. No, go back. No, it doesn't look like it whatsoever. I'll show you one. Nope, not that one.

Go back. That's the only crucifixion pictures. Or maybe it was when he's back. This one. Right there. It looks like the same thing. I see her saying. Yeah, I guess it is.

Yes, it does. I mean, I don't know. And she's referring to the image of, let's see, two of 24. She's saying two of 24. And guys, you can help me out on this. To me, it doesn't look like it. It does. It does.

It says. Looks like that. It's similar to 20 of 24. Yeah. What gears are they painted in? I'm just curious. I don't know. This is 776.

So that one's older. Yeah. And then this one is 1315. So, yeah, it's a lot. But they look. They're depicting the same picture to me. Well, I don't know. I don't see that, but okay.

How do you not see that? I just don't. I don't know. But anyway, so 21 of 24, the cave painting of 6,000 BC is that look. I mean, come on. If you got 6,000 BC before Christ from the Sahara Desert, and you got this, like, creature thing that looks like he's got a helmet of some sort on, and you obviously have crafts in the sky, this shaped. It kind of looks like Star Wars with Chabaca, I don't know

But it's 6,000 BC I know I mean Like this is You can't just make this up Yeah and it doesn't look like it could be a sun or a moon or anything like that And the thing is I want to point out too Is that you know when when

When ancient people wrote on cave walls And this is widely known That ancient people wrote on cave walls They're most important things Tell about what their history Yeah, they wanted a way to document what they were. Yes, and that's the only way they could do it.

And they wanted to depict the things that were most important to them. Exactly. And so, you know, to have this image 21 to 24, and I hope you guys are looking at it if you don't go to our website. Remember, just go to the article, UFOs and ancient paintings. This could be actually, like on his head could be some kind of metal thing or something. Could be. I don't know.

It's strange. And it looks like he's got something over his mouth or something. I don't know. It's weird. 22 of 24, you have 7,000 BC. before Christ. The Laldov plate, discovered in Nepal, appears to show a hovering disk shaped object in the center and

a small being inside. The circular pattern is reminiscent of the spiraling movement of consciousness. Golden ratio. The sacred geometry of creation. So this is, it looks like it's got a little alien guy right here. Looks

absolutely like an alien to me. Almost looks like octopuses. Looks like some kind of lizard thing. And it looks like a circular thing. But the weird thing is there's a sun in the middle. Yeah, it looks like a sun in the middle. And like something's going around the sun. It's a circular pattern that's reminiscent of spiraling movement of consciousness, they're saying. Yeah, but I'm just saying it is a spiral movement around the sun too, which is weird.

Yeah, it's weird. Maybe they knew way back then that we actually went around Earth. I mean, went around the Sun, that the Earth went around the Sun, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe they realized that. I don't know. Yeah, and so the next image is entitled to the. miracle of the show. This painting is from 1388 to 1440 by mauselino da Pencali

currently resides at the Church of St. Monzaea. Magalore in Florence, Italy. It shows two humans inside a circle-type cloud and they're hovering above the disciples. They could easily be interpreted spiritually or something but more extraterrestrial

like them looking down from a hovering UFO. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know about this one. I see a lot of people on here. It looks like a Jesus type figure above and who knows? Jesus. How does that look like Jesus? Kind of does. It's got long hair with a robe.

Oh, I can't see it. I need glasses, I guess. Yeah, you do. But yeah, I don't know if that's a UFO. Could be. But, you know, those are either... But it's just Jesus in a circle. So that could represent the heavens. But you've got to look at what's under it. Yeah, and it's cloud. Oh, I didn't see that until just now. It could

be a cloud, but it could be... That looks like a flying saucer. And all the ones behind it. Oh, that's weird. So those are either really crappy clouds or... You know what this picture reminds me of? It's the one that you know, you either see a bear or an old woman type pictures or whatever. Yeah.

Because I did not even see that until you pointed it out to me. I don't know what those pictures are called. You know what I'm talking about where you see two different things? Yeah. And maybe the artist did that on purpose so that people wouldn't know. So on to the next image. I believe this is 24 of 24, guys, last image. tapestry from 1538 named

Summers Triumph that hangs in the Bayerscheris National Museum. If you look at the top corners, you can see what could be described as flaun saucers or UFOs. A few people believe that these are just clouds, but the minds of Artesian portray the visions and that could easily be a case of where

the artist definitely intended to add UFOs. So if you look at the image clearly, it looks like, I mean, I don't know. It doesn't look like, no, it looks like One, two, three, four, maybe. Okay. Okay, yeah.

And also, if you look up here on the top of this mountain, it don't look like, that almost don't look like a tree, that looks like an alien possibly. Or people. But yeah, so, I don't know. Going to see the UFO? Yeah, but it looks like a big circus down here. This is Jesus' crucifixion right there.

You've got to talk in the mic, because people can't hear you. Look, there's Jesus right there. I don't think so. Yes, it is. He's got his arms up tied with a cross. Go down right there. No, he just, no, that guy's just. No, that guy's just holding his hand up.

That's not, that's not Jesus. Why would he be naked? Because they all were, pretty much. I don't know, but I don't think that's Jesus. I don't know. But anyway, so that's the last image, guys. But these are all images that, you know, and by the way, Leonardo da Vinci, which is our first image.

Woo. That guy, the thing about it is, is the reason why people want to say crazy stuff about him and UFOs, or like his images is because it is in most of his images. He has a hidden. code of some sort to show aliens. And the weird thing is, many people believe that Leonardo da Vinci

is widely known as one of the smartest and most talented people ever to be on earth. In existence. Yeah. And this man, like in some of the paintings... And especially even how can you paint a painting like that to make it... I know. If you reverse it, it's an alien. Yeah, that's a perfect alien. And some of his paintings, like he painted like a pagan church coming out of a new church or whatever and that was not you know that was the roman catholic time or whatever so he couldn't do that so he painted layers over it where there was just

a little bit of the image where you could see it and people nowadays i guess can use computer technology to go through those layers and see what he actually painted and it's just like freaky what he paints like in all like the clues he gives us to our universe like a lot of people believe leonardo nevinci Da Vinci has the clues to our universe. And he was trying to give them to us. Well, okay. So UFO's in the Bible. Let's talk about this.

And I wanted to go over these images and these paintings. And there are more than just that, but we wanted to get to those. And guys, I hope you were going along with us because hopefully it isn't boring if they're not looking at them and we're talking about them.

But I want you guys to look at them. So if you have to, and you're just listening to us, I know this is going to be something you've got to do. You know I'm not boring. I keep it interesting. But I'm saying, you're going to have to go to our website and look at it. You can listen to me and picture it.

All right. So picture this, guys. We're going to talk about a Bible verse known as Ezekiel 1. That is some good rosé. God did turn water into wine. Well, it's a funny thing that his Holy Grail was not painted in last thing. Whatever. Okay.

So Ezekiel 1. in the 13th year in the fourth month on the fifth day and this is a verse just listen to this verse and then we'll talk about it afterwards in my 13th year in the fourth month of the fifth day while I was among the exiles by the Kabar River the heavens were open and I saw visions of God on the fifth of the month it was the fifth year of the exile of King Jehocyan I guess

the word of the Lord came to Ezekiel the priest the sun of Bozzi by the Kibar River in the land of the Babylonians. There the hand of the Lord was on him. I looked and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north, an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human,

but each of them had four faces and four wings. Their legs were straight, their feet were like those of a calf and gleam like a burnished bronze. Under their wings, on their four sides, they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings. And the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead. They did not turn as they moved.

Their faces looked like this. Each of the four had the face of a human being. And on the right side of each had the face of a lion. And on the left side of the face had an ox. Each also had the face of an eagle. Such were their faces. They each had two wings spreading out upward. Each wing touching that of the creature on the either side,

and each had two other wings covering its body. Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go without turning as they went. The appearance of the living creatures were like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures. It was bright and it was lightened and flashed out of it. The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning. As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a will on the ground beside each creature with its four faces.

This was the appearance and structure of wills. They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a will intersecting a will. As they moved, they would go in any four of the directions the creatures faced. The wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. Their rims were high and awesome, and all of them. all four rims were full of eyes all around. When the living creatures moved, the wills beside them moved.

And when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wills also rose. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wills would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When the creatures moved, they also moved, and the creatures stood still. They also stood still. And when the creatures rose from the ground, the wills rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wills. Whatever that means.

Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what, looked something like a vault, sparkling like crystal and awesome. Under the vault, their wings were stretched out toward the other, and each had two wings covering the body. When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of Russian waters, like the voice of the Almighty, like the tumult of the army. When they stood still, they lowered the wings. Then came a voice from above the vault over their heads as they stood and lowered their wings.

Above the vault over their heads was what looked like a throne of La Pia. Lazzuli and high above the throne was a figure like a man. I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal as if full of fire and that from down he looked like fire and brilliant light surrounded him like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day so was the radiance around him. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. When I saw it I fell face down and I heard the voice of one speaking. So just unpack that number. one. Number one is, this is a Bible verse, his equal one. Number one thing I want to point out, even though all that craziness of that verse, he compares this to a human being. Okay?

Like, let's point out the obvious for a second. Well, he said he had a face of a human, but when you saw him on the sides. Yeah, but why would he even say a face of a human? I don't know, but it was something else. But he said when you look at him on the sides, it was a side of a lion, an ox and then he had a appearance of an eagle or something yeah which eagle could mean flying yeah but how i'm i'm trying to figure out the lion and the ox like a side profile i don't get that i don't know i think it's i think you got to interpret it different i think the eagle part maybe possibly he means it's flying right possibly but it said it had wings so i don't understand okay but it had human hands under the wings i don't know it had a human like appearance and face but

It also had human hands under the wings. But what this does say is that, if anything, what is saying is that in the Bible, it says that they're trying to compare this thing to a human being, which means, to his knowledge, this was not a human being. It had human being like things. Which is what you would describe as an alien. But it also had animal characteristics, maybe. It did, like certain features. To them. Possibly, yeah.

Ah, maybe that's it. But the weird thing is that the very first thing I took from that is how they're trying to describe it versus a human being. You know what I mean? So they already knew basically it was not a human being. So that's a strange thing. What verse was that? Ezekiel one. And that's in the Old Testament.

Yeah. Yeah. I think. So Hebrews 13 too also talks about do not forget to show hospitality to strangers. for by doing so some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. So that is a good verse. And I want to touch on this for a minute.

Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers for by doing so doing some people for by so doing some people have shown hospitality angels without knowing it. I could not be a preacher because reading the Bible is so hard. It's saying without knowing it. So in other words, they're showing hospitality the things that are that could be angels but they're disguised as not angels.

Yeah, but here's the, here's the strange thing about what they refer to as strangers and foreigners in the Bible. It doesn't refer to you coming from another country necessarily as a stranger. In the Bible, it talks about strangers and foreigners being from not the earth in a lot of these verses. It basically, it basically says, do not, do not turn down or show whatever to foreigners or strangers, how they kind of depict strangers in the Bible almost seems a little bit like from heavens, from the heavens.

How do they call people like in different countries or whatever then? I don't know, but what I'm saying is there's a difference. There's one strangers, one foreigners. And I think strangers depict in the Bible from not of this earth is what it sounds like. Strangers are from the heavens and foreigners are people around them. Possibly.

Gotcha. But the weird thing is, but the weird thing is in some verses also kind of says stuff about foreigners being possibly not of this earth. But this verse, the reason I want to point this out, do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing so, people have shown

hospitality to angels without knowing it. And so what I'm saying is, in the Bible it always talks about, look to the heavens for angels. There's people all across the Bible that says the angels came down from the sky and whatever. The angels came down from the sky. That's all it

ever says in the Bible. The angels come down. The angels come down. And all this time people have talked about, I've never once seen an angel come down from the sky and I'm 79, 80 years old. It's maybe because you're looking for angels. What like, maybe this is not the right angels we're looking for. Maybe that's not what the Bible is calling angels. Angels are not necessarily Gabriel or some like gleaming light in the sky. Angels could mean UFOs potentially. We don't know. But what I do know is is that in the Bible they refer to angels as many things that come out of the sky and you know they believe these things are

almighty because they have technology you got to think guys and girls is that even in biblical days even when god did create the earth if you believe god created the earth and even if god created man if you believe god created man it does there's a factual thing that says god created the heavens in the earth he doesn't necessarily say he created other beings on the earth or i mean outside of the earth but what he did say is he created the heavens and earth and what he doesn't what he doesn't I guess necessarily depict is it's a difference in

what are the heavens and what are the earth and that's what's crazy there is a verse and I'm looking for it right now oh I know what verse you're talking about talking about coming from the far reaches of the heavens and I

got to find that verse. Oh, go ahead. I was going to talk while you're looking for it. Talking about the heavens and the earth and aliens or whatever, going back to Da Vinci because I researched a lot of that because it was most interesting to me. There is a picture of, and I can't remember the picture's name, but it was Mary with John the Baptist and Jesus and an angel. But what was weird about it, what people noticed, and what stands out is Mary is protecting

John the Baptist and the angel is protecting Jesus. If you would think about, like in reality, Mary should be protecting Jesus, but she's protecting John the Baptist. Yeah. And the angel is protecting Jesus. And the angel has some kind of significance to the heavens above, right? Yep. So the aliens could be that angel that's protecting Jesus is what people think or people say that

could be because what people don't understand about the bible and guys this is just the bible i guarantee if you if you believe in islam if you don't believe in the bible at all and then whatever then you know there's a thing that um i'm going to play in just a minute before we go because i want to play this because it matters but it's it's about the vatican um talking about aliens actually and and his astronomy program and i wanted to talk about that because uh i want to i mostly want to do it because i want to point out what one of the people they interviewed the end of It's like a two-minute, two-minute audio clip. But it's the guy they interviewed at the end after the Vatican,

they ask him what they believe, what the, you know, what was their response on what the Vatican said about UFOs. And what he says, I want to talk about because I believe is he's completely wrong. But anyways, in Isaiah 13-5, this verse says, they come from far away lands, from the ends of the heavens. Okay, now give you mind, God said I created the heavens and the earth. And far from the heavens. Yes, but listen.

Well, I'm telling you, God created the heavens and the earth. This audio clip that I want to talk about is what he says in this audio clip, this verse particularly kind of, I guess, kind of shows what my point's going to be to that. But they come from the faraway lands from the ends of the heavens, the Lord and the weapons of his wrath to destroy the whole country. But it says they come from faraway. lands from the ends of the heavens. God created the heavens and the earth, right? So the Vatican, he has, I guess they have a program over there. It's an astronomy program.

And one of the things that they do is they study space. And it is highly controversial, I guess, for the Vatican and all that to even study that. I believe that's Catholic, correct? Yes, it's Catholic. Of course it is. You know that. What are you doing? that's definitely Catholic Yes But anyways But I think that Roman Catholics have been against

Like any kind of things Of this for a long time But if this is coming from the Pope That's pretty cool It's not the Pope But it's one of the main Vaticans of the church Right Okay got you

But this little thing is two minutes long I want you guys to listen to it And I want you to specifically pay attention to When they interview the guy at the end And what his thoughts are on this but I also want you to listen to what the Vatican himself says. So here it is. The Gandalfo Castle perched above a glistening green lake near Rome has a magical aura.

It's the Pope's summer residence, and it is here that Vatican astronomers have for decades studied the heavens. Perched on the roof of this 17th century castle are two domes, holding telescopes that Vatican astronomers have been using since the 1930s. Now they have much more powerful telescopes for their research located, in Tucson, Arizona, but it is here at Castel Gandolfo that the astronomers have their headquarters. How do we now, Frodoz, alive? One would almost expect to find the wizard Gandalf from Lord of the Rings striding through the long hallways in his dark robes with his wooden staff and flowing beard.

But instead, inside the walls of this castle, an unassuming Jesuit from Argentina, leads the Vatican astronomical research and has recently caused an uproar by opening a about aliens. In the universe, so big, huge, I would say, as the one where we live with a hundred billion of galaxies, which each galaxy with a hundred billion of stars, probably with many of these stars having planets, it would be possible that life could evolve as the way we know on Earth.

Father Funes says he is not sure if other people forms of life would be more or less intelligent than humans, but he is convinced that the existence of aliens is not a contradiction with the Catholic faith. There has been no word from top Vatican officials about Fueness's comments, but some people on the street find them odd. Richard Charnock was taking a group from the All Hallows Catholic High School on a trip to Italy when he heard about the comments from the Vatican astronomer. I think it's preposterous that they're saying that. There is one, humans that God created. You know, we'd come back to the Bible.

He didn't create Adam Eve and E.T. Did he? It was Adam and Eve. And so, you know, I just think it goes against what we believe as Christians. We probably won't be seeing aliens at mass any time soon. But the Vatican's chief astronomer does say that there could exist other forms of life outside Earth. And he says if they do exist, they are God's creatures. Tricia Thomas, the Associated Press, Castel Gandolfo, Italy. Agree.

Can I make a comment? Go ahead. Well, researching everything, I have found that it goes back to the Roman Catholic Church. They didn't believe anything that was pagan or plaguing or whatever. That's not pagan, though. No, I'm no, it's not pagan, but believing in something that they, not pagan, but whatever. Not believing in what they want you to believe is not true. It goes back to the Roman Catholic Church.

That's why Da Vinci had to hide whatever he was hiding, whatever knowledge he had. It all goes back to that. And then for the Stromer guys say, yeah, there is possibility of, you know, life outside of Earth. And the guy's like, no. And he's a Vatican. He's over the Vatican church. And then that dude is like, no. You know, we have to believe in the Bible and what, you know, what we're.

Well, here's my point is, is as the Vatican said, that he believes that, you know, there's no way that we can't be alone and that we are alone, I mean. And there's no way that, you know, if there are. aliens are God, there's God's creatures too. And the thing is, God doesn't necessarily, what people don't realize is God doesn't have to tell us about aliens. And, like, I mean, he doesn't have to write a Bible for the universe necessarily. He wrote a Bible for our earth and what he was doing with us and our people and us. And regardless, if you believe or not, we're just talking biblically on this. And, you know, there's a verse in the Bible, Isaiah 4512. It says, it is who I made the earth and created mankind on it.

My own hands stretched out the heavens. I marshaled their starry host. You know, it's weird like what that means, but, you know, it talks about the heavens a lot. Yeah. And I guess that last guy that you're talking about, he's very small-minded. He's not willing to open his mind to like... Close-minded as well. Yeah, sorry.

Close-minded. You know, I never have the right words. No, no, babe. No, I agree. But he was very close-minded. It's probably small-minded. It's probably small-minded. He probably does have a small money.

He couldn't think outside the box about things. There's only Adam and Eve, not Adam, Eve, and E.T. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Guys, listen, there's no way that you're going to tell me that God is going to create a universe if you believe in God. And that he's going to create one planet with one life form. If you look, this is what I tell people more than anything. Like, for a while, for back in the day my mom, when I used to bring up aliens and stuff, she almost acted like

and mom probably isn't listening I can guarantee you that but anyways but she used to bring up the fact when I would talk about aliens is oh Chad you know you know what the Bible says you know it was like

Adam and Eve you know I mean there is no aliens you know what I mean and I'm like mom do you not understand like here's the thing like what people just fell to grasp is that God created this universe.

And if you believe in God, you should more so believe in other life forms. Yeah, he's the almighty of everything in this universe, not just the Milky Way, right? But this universe. And in this universe, there's got to be other life in this universe. Yeah, and does it say that he has to tell us in them? Yeah, we're a little pepper in the universe. And by the way, by the way, most of the Bible was written by people. Yes.

on this earth. Right. And they were supposed like interpreted through God. God only said so many things. Right. Right. Right. And so with that being said, did God have to say in his little things that they put into the Bible that there, did he explain that there.

Did he explain what there were other planets and all this other, all of his creation? I think there's many verses in the Bible that explains fully that he says that the heavens, he explains the heavens. He explains the heavens as far reaching and never ending. Right. And just you think about Bible stories. like even Noah's Ark, for example. I mean, it is pretty far-fetched, right? Yeah.

Like, God was going to drown everyone because he wanted to start over with the way we were. Because they were sinning and there were violence. Right. That's what he said. And so he picked Noah. Yeah, which why? I mean, I don't know. Well, I think because Noah's grandfather had something to do with extraterrestrial aliens is what I read today.

And I think it has a lot to do with he picked Noah for a reason. and the reason is far beyond our reasoning in our like understanding no we can't i mean that's the thing though i mean the bible gosh guys listen to me you know it's strange to think so um when you look at things and and we like we're sitting here in our little studio and we're we're we're talking about aliens but like, you know, think about billions of light years away, billions, right? And there's no way. If you're a scientist, for example, you can't say that, especially from the science perspective, like, I mean, I am religious.

I believe in God and all that. But from a science perspective, say that you do not believe in God, right? If you're listening to us and you don't believe in God whatsoever, from a science perspective, it is almost damn near impossible to say that we're the only the only ones in billions and but that's just observable universe that's the only thing we can possibly see but we're you know it

it is endless it is a never ending thing and some of Leonardo Da Vinci's pictures even portray that it's infity it goes on and on and on and on and another thing I want to bring up too is we've been around thousands of years of people

mankind whatever but you know the earth and our civilization in whole is fairly new to the universe. I mean, we're a very young thing. One of the things that Ari says, which I hope that he comes on our podcast,

Ari, if you're listening to our podcast, come on our show because we want to talk to you about this. But one of the things that I want to say is, we're thousands of years old. We're very new to the universe. And, you know, there was something that Ari said on a podcast that kind of made me think about this. is like these civilizations,

he's sure there's probably been civilizations that have already went to war, killed themselves out, you know, like demolished themselves over the course of possibly millions of years, just like we may be headed. Right, right.

And to think about they can come visit us. Yeah, and, well, and there could be, way ahead of us. Yeah, but there could be, like, there could be civilizations out there that have already demolished themselves, and instincted, extincted their selves and then reformed themselves again many times over.

That kind of goes with Buddhist thought, but yeah, until you meet perfection. Yeah, and so you're thinking of stuff like that, but then you got stuff like, you know, we're thousands of years old, this earth is millions of years old, but civilization in itself is not millions of years old, you know, but there could be civilizations outside of this planet. Think about how far we've come, which is, in my opinion, not very, very far. I mean, if you look at it in a grand scheme of things, of what we could achieve, say you gave us, and the problem is, and this is also something he says, R.A. says, is like, the problem is that we are constantly fighting each other. If you think we're an intelligent

life form, we're not. We're dumb. Because, like, if you look at the United States, for example, we're divided. We're at war, pretty much, yeah. The government's divided. The people are divided. the world's divided. And if you're in an intelligent life form, you're not divided because you all work together. The smart people, the smart civilizations all work together for a better earth, for a better civilization, for a better them. And if you had the entire world, just think about this. We had all the governments in the world using all their top scientists, all their top people.

Together. No one fought. And it was, you were on a mission. We would get so much farther than we are today. Yes. You were on a mission to advance. Like imagine then we could possibly tell ourselves we're intelligent life forms. But right now we're not, man.

We're fighting over politics or fighting over who's in the White House and News. I mean, don't get me wrong, those are important things right now. They are. In the course of our history and our civilization and our future, they are important things of what you believe. Because that, in my opinion, shapes our future. But that could be the end of us, too. These are the major things for us because we live in the United States. But, like, people in different countries, you know, yeah, they're looking at what's going on.

But it's just a little speck of their life right now. Yeah. And I think life is much bigger than what we, you know, our everyday lives. We can't even concept it. Yeah. I feel like we're little tiny ants, you know, ants. We are. In the universe.

Yeah, in the universe. But think about this, too, is like, people want to push for civil war and they want, like, you know, all this crazy shit in wars. You know what wars do and in reality is all wars do is set you back as a civilization. Yep. Say that you have a civil war in the United States. All that. Say that you have a Democrat and Republican, for example, right? And there's this war and this war.

There's going to be a winner. Yes, there is. Right. But the winner is not really a winner because you've got to rebuild everything, basically. Right. And then it's going to be taken apart and then build and then take a bar. And then there's going to be another faction to come in. that doesn't agree with what you do.

It's always back in for. And how the hell do we get past that? Because the thing is, the only... There's got to be civilizations that work together. There's got to be. And there is. And I think those are the successful ones. Yeah, those are the ones that are visiting our planet, I think.

But that's why exactly what Rory says in the podcast is, and Joe's podcast is, you know, you can't, because Joe argued with him on this. And I remember when we were listening, Joe Rogan... I think I was asleep during this part. No, but you, I remember you said something. I think you were half asleep. But you said, no, I think he's wrong. And I thought Joe was wrong, too.

Oh, that Joe was wrong. Joe, yeah, because he argued with Ari. He's the top astronomer Harvard guy. He argued with, because Ari doesn't believe we're an intelligent civilization. You know, he doesn't. And I agree with that. Joe argue with him based on our achievements. There's no way we can get our spaceships to another place where there's life.

We can't even get it out of, we can't even get it past. We can't even get it to the moon. We can't even get it to the moon. And we're intelligent? Okay. Yeah. And so, and so you hear these reports about, you hear these reports about people like, or civilizations sending us signals and radio waves? Because they know how dumb we are.

We only get radio waves. Yeah. So they have to. And listen, we did send some music. Yeah, we did. That was, yeah, scientists got together and sent a package to this thing that's been sending a signals for a while. Yeah. We sent it out.

in a radio wave. And I think we sent like seven radio signals or whatever, and they included music. It was mainly music. And guess where that music came from, Chad? Where? The Lord's Last Supper. If you look at that picture.

That's the music? Yes. If you look at that, the bread on the table makes music notes. That has to do with alien life form. But what does that have to do with the music we sent them? Because it's alien life form. Any kind of, um, is that the music we actually sent them?

The vibrance, the vibration or whatever. Yeah. Vibration of the universe. Yeah. It all has to do with that. So if you look at, and we're going, I'm going deep, but I'm just telling you, the bread on the, on the Lord's Last Supper or whatever, the bread. It looks like a sheet of music. And if you put a sheet of music with it and line up the bread, it makes a song.

I'm not kidding. It's interesting. Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, we're sending signals back. And I think they said that if whatever sent us those signals, those radio signals, which I think, whatever, I think it was like, they're not going to get them until I could be wrong. It was like 227 years. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't. No, it was seven or 17 years.

I can't remember. If I'm not mistaken. No, I think it was like seven or 17 years. Because radio signals go a lot faster and, like, we can travel. But I think it's like seven or 17 years. I can't remember exactly. But they'll eventually get them, maybe. But here's the thing.

We don't know how long and how far in the past that was sent. That's the thing about space. We don't know. Yeah, they, I mean, they might have found it yesterday and we don't know. I don't know. But that's what I'm saying, too, is that, you know, we've had these spacecraft visiting Earth, obviously. There's no question in my mind based on these paintings that we've had spacecraft visiting Earth a long time ago.

And I believe biblical days. Since there's anyone that has intelligence to understand what's in the sky, it's been there. Yeah. And this is what scary too is that a lot of what we come to know and believe in the Bible. It's like, are where do these angels, were they actually aliens? Were they spaceships that these people were seeing? That they said were signs of God and God coming. It could be.

But I'm just saying the people way past. even religion and before Jesus, they still had the same drawings as they did during Jesus. You're right. I don't think it has anything. I think the Bible was depicting what was seen. But I think it was seen way before the Bible. Yeah. Well, I mean, I do believe the religion thing. And there's actually scientists that say that if you believe in aliens and you see them or whatever, then that's a form of religion too. Yeah. Because you believe it. And even though some people don't see it, it is still a form of religion. I don't base my afterlife on aliens, but some people do. Some people believe that, you know, dimensions and all that stuff is where you're going in your afterlife.

But then again, God, keep in mind this too. In the Bible, it talks about the heavens and the earth. In the Bible, it also says that if you are, like in the Holy Bible, the Christian Bible, it says that if you were saved by Jesus and acknowledge that he died from your sins, you go to heaven. So does that mean the heaven? You got to spaceship? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, well, think about it.

Like, in the Bible, it just says you go to heaven where there's no worries anymore. You're this, you're free. There's no, there's no nothing. And so it says you go to heaven. The weird thing is, is it says heaven. It doesn't say you go to heavens. But it says you're going to be met by a golden gate. Yeah, I get that.

But that could be, you know, anything. But what I'm saying is, it could be a dimension thing. It could be a spiritual thing. You know, actually, they weighed the body. This is funny about your soul, right? People wonder if your soul actually exist. And there were people that weighed the body before death. And then after?

And then after. Oh, that's scary. And it was like, I don't know, so many ounces lighter after death, right after death. And this was a scientific thing they were trying to determine if there was an actual soul. Yeah. But, I mean, people could have spewed like body fluids or something. No, no, no, no. No, this was, they weighed the exact thing they were on, no,

If they spewed body fluids or not, it was still the same weight. Yeah. I believe everyone has a soul. I'm not saying they don't. And when they died, it was, it was lighter. A little bit lighter because their soul left the body. Yeah. Yeah.

I totally believe that. The energy, the whatever, that's gone. I'm just not sure where the soul goes. Well, I don't know. But that's what I'm saying is, I think the universe is so, I have literally thought of the universe before, like, at night. Like, when you're like, I don't know if you ever, like, been awake really late and you've drink a lot and then you come down or something like from drinking or whatever and you're laying there in bed and you're like and you and your mind gets in that in because I mean I really this is

where I think is like when your mind gets in something that is something you don't normally think of right whatever that reason may be like people that take DMT or hallucinogens even have you pin on that stuff no never I'm just kidding no I actually haven't but I'm just kidding but what I'm saying is that there are certain times in my mind that I will think think deeply. Yeah. Like really deep. Oh yeah.

I do too. I will extrapolate everything that I'll think of the universe. But only some people can do that, I think. They can, I think you use your brain more than normal people because normal people don't think like that way. I know. But I challenge all of you, though, to challenge your brain. Yeah.

And it's hard to do. And listen, even just go outside and lay down on the ground and just look up at the sky and just let yourself go and see what comes to your brain. Yeah. Challenge your brain. your brain to think of the inevitable or not the inevitable but the impossible yeah the impossible

think of your brain of thinking of infinity yeah think of think of that think of like what we are in think about earth think about how big we feel it is and then take yourself outside of this earth and then go to our galaxy and then there are videos on YouTube and stuff that make

you realize how small we are but just go and think about infinity right and think about what that even means and I'm not the smartest cooking on the block, obviously I cannot pronounce words right, but I feel like I know exactly what you're talking about and I think that other people could too if they take the time just to do it. And then I think about my mortality in that. Like I think about in it like how I often think about like how many people have died before me. Your life is just a speck. Yeah, it is. It's a it's a it's a little

dust. Yep. And I think about that and it scares me a little bit. Well, people are, well, you are, well, No, you'll never be remembered in the history of the world even. If you look at it from a universe perspective, we're nobody. Yeah. But at the same time, we have to be somebody. Yeah, we are somebody on Earth. But the thing is, I don't think that we are truly who we're meant to be right now. And that's what the spiritual thing I come back to.

I just hope I'm around to see it. It's a lot. No, I don't, you're going to see. I think everyone sees it. Not on Earth, but just around. Everyone sees it. Yeah. I just want to know when everything is revealed.

And so the only question is, like, I do think you go somewhere after you die without question. I know we got deep on here. But we have to get deep on us. I know they do. I know that you go somewhere. Well, that's fine. If they don't believe that, that's fine. I think people that don't believe you go anywhere when you die and you just die.

I think they still go somewhere. No, I do. But I believe. I don't think you have to believe in a certain thing to go somewhere. But I believe people that, well, that's what I'm saying. I believe people that think that you just die and there's nothing else. I think their soul goes somewhere. Are probably the same people that believe that there is no aliens that exist in this world.

Probably. They're close-minded. Yeah. They're small-minded. But I still think their soul goes somewhere. Everyone's soul has to go somewhere. But then you think about the Bible in hell and what that means. I don't know.

What does that mean in the terms of... I just don't believe in that. Well, I do. I mean, if you believe in the Bible, you got to believe in hell. But, you know, what does that mean? I don't know. But, you know, it's all things that, like, you got to think about. And so, but aliens, you know, we talk about aliens and people are going to say, like, oh, you know, there's been so much stigma on the alien conversation and UFOs.

If you believe in UFOs or aliens, you're crazy. But look at paintings from thousands and thousands of years ago. 40,000 years ago. And more. And more. Yeah. The first civilizations were drawing pictures of UFOs. There were cavemen.

drawing pictures. There were, there were, um, I mean, I think they, I'm, I'm not kidding. I know you guys probably think I'm crazy, but I think that our ancestors learn from them. Yeah. I do. Could have been. I mean, how else would they know to, to draw those pictures? And these pictures are the most important things that happened in their lives. And they're drawing pictures of aliens and UFOs. But at the same time, you know, here's the other thing. Like, you know, supposedly when the dinosaurs were gone. Well, I don't see any dinosaur drawings, do you? No.

Have you seen any dinosaur drawings? But supposedly that came before people. Yeah, I don't believe that either. I don't know. I don't know. It's weird. I don't know. I mean, they have bones.

Let's investigate that. I'm not saying that. They say they have bones. I'm not saying that dinosaurs didn't exist. I know, but I don't see any drawings of that. Maybe that's not the most important thing in their lives. I don't know. But at the same time is you got people.

You know, I mean, you know, they speculate why dinosaurs cease to exist now and it's a meteorite. But who the hell knows? Well, I was reading, and I know we're getting off topic, but I was reading like some of these Egyptian pictures or even like Native American pictures. Like, I'm sure you've seen these pictures where they have a half body of a deer and a half body of a snake or, you know, it's half bodies. Well, some people say, would have that really existed then? And that's the pictures they're drawing is what they saw. So, I mean, it's possible. Like it was, it was like half of two animals or whatever.

Yeah, like a mutated animal. It wouldn't have been mutated. It would have been pure then. Now we have the mutated animals to what we see. Yeah, we just have to figure out. We have to come together as a world. And, you know, and the thing is, is that why, why, why, why, why? is our governments and our, you know, in our CIA document podcasts, you know, you read into those

even declassified documents. They're not even classified. And you can see the, the censorship in those. Oh, yeah, you can. That they wanted the media not to talk about it. The first thing I went to look for was Roswell. Guess what? It wasn't. No, yeah, it wasn't there. Not there. That's going to be classified. Yeah. And the only thing that I saw was something about the weather balloons. Yeah. But it never even like, you know, included that incident at all. No, I agree. It's a weird thing.

And guys, all I'm saying is keep your mind open, man. Like, don't be closed-minded. And, you know, there's something I've learned to is, like, with the U.S. elections, for example, and I know this is a little off topic, but it brings us back to the point of the world not getting along. Yes, I do have my beliefs on this country and this world and what we have to be to be free. still, right? But, man, we got to, the only way that we're ever going to be free, in my opinion, there is, and I'm telling all of you this, there is authoritarian people around the world that decide

our lives as people. There are governments. These governments are created. And in the Bible, it specifically talks about, I am the God of everyone, not, it doesn't matter, authoritarian, it doesn't matter about any of that stuff, it matters about, I'm the God of all people, I am the God, I am the God, I'm the God, I'm the God, I'm the God. the one that says what is right and what is wrong. And if you don't believe in God, then whatever, you can listen still.

But what I'm saying is that we have to advance as people. We have to get along. Or we're not going to advance at all. Like literally, imagine if the United States right now was together. And I think, strangely enough, like Joe Biden, this whole thing, people are starting to kind of see some weirdness to certain things. Yeah, they're going against it, my thing. Yeah, they're starting to see, oh, well, you used us.

And so there's one thing that Joe Biden says is I'm going to unite the country. You might. You might unite the country and get everyone against you. Yes. Maybe. But man, look, we love all people. And the thing is, if we ever want to know more than we know now, we have to be together. Yep.

And politics is just like a grandisole too in the universe. Politics is nothing. It is nothing compared to where we are. But we as people allow politics to dictate and rule our lives. And you do a lot, Chad. I do. Well, I do because of where we live in our life and the situation we live in, you know? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. It's hard not to let it rule your life. But sometimes you have to back up and say, listen, I'm just like like a grain of salt in this big old world. Yeah. And I have to enjoy the life that I have and enjoy the time I have on Earth. I don't know where I'm going, but each day is a day given to you. Yeah. And look, guys, if you believe in aliens or UFOs, which you should.

because they exist, and there's no question in my mind about that, and many scientists' minds as well, you have to know that in order for us to ever advance past where we are now, we all have to not censor ourselves, not censor other people, but we got to, instead of figuring out ways to beat or defeat other people, we have to figure out ways to uplift and encourage other people. And no matter what your views are, it doesn't matter. Your views can be one thing.

but you still have to figure out ways to encourage someone, even if they don't have your views. But the thing is, we're always looking for that in return. And the only way that's going to happen is a mass scale of knowing that you have, for us to advance, we have to encourage other people. Exactly.

If our goal is to encourage other people, our differences are not going to matter as much. No. We can still do our own thing. And if you put your differences out on public media, you're going to get the response you want. you're going to get a negative response, Chad. And some good, but you're going to get good too.

But the good, you're not changing anybody's mind. Because the good, if you get a good response on social media, that's the people that already agree with you. So you're not doing anything. You're not going to change the mind of people that don't believe when you believe. No, not by going against them. Yeah, not going against them and arguing with them. You're right.

I agree. You have to go at another like angle. I agree. That's what I'm saying. So, for example, you don't post the flag and say, this is for all. you haters or whatever. That doesn't work. No, I get it. But at the same time, what I'm saying is that it is a war in people's minds right now in the United States. And it's all a mine thing.

Somehow we have to get past that. And I don't know what the mass scale to do that is. But like even the government, for example, in the military and the, or not the military, the government and our politicians, none of that stuff would matter in our, in any of our countries if we were united. and this all comes back to aliens because I believe if there are aliens which I do believe that there are aliens and other civilizations and other planets there's no way in hell that they are all fighting each other if they're visiting us well maybe like the aliens are kind of lost like our Bible is like the people in the past are the people in the past and we read their word and we believe

it but maybe the aliens like came to us saying this is what we need you to do and maybe we didn't listen. I don't know. Well, what I'm saying is, I guess, is that these ancient civilizations could have had many times like we're having right now in our country, where we're divided. We're completely divided.

And at that point, that's not going to change anything. We either from this point on, figure out a way to unite and not by BS, but unite us people, not the government, not politicians, not none of those people. Yeah, I agree. Screw the politicians. Screw everybody else.

to unite his people. And if we can do that, we can advance with or without the government. But the thing is, if the people unite in every country, it doesn't matter what country and if you can unite with people, like, instead of trying to go viral for like having a girl's ass on your face on your YouTube video or boobs, why don't you figure out ways to unite people with good things, right? Like, unite people with ways of coming together. Make it viral to be nice. Make it viral to do good. Make it viral to accept other people. But a lot of countries don't even agree that. Like there's countries like the Philippines or you know, in Asian countries. But if they're

not allowed to even get on social media. Yeah. Like I said, we've never, I don't think we've ever had a China. I don't think we've ever had a Chinese listener. I don't think I've ever saw China on our demographics. Yeah. I mean, it's going to happen in the United States right now. Yeah. And and and what I'm saying is is that the way that China and the way that North and South Korea, for example, did that, they divided. They had to divide the people in order to censor because what they do, and I know this is off topic, but damn it we got to talk about it. In order to censor, you have to start with one party.

You have to start with one side. You have to make half of the country believe that it's the good thing to do, to censor. And then, once you censor that whole side, then you start saying, okay, well, do you see why we got to censor? And then it makes it okay for censorship to where then they censor everyone. They're like, okay, look, we get it. We shouldn't have censor the one side, so let's censor everyone just to make it fair, right? That's what they're doing.

That's what China did. And I think somewhere I watched a documentary. I'm not kidding. Like, they have to pledge their dictator. If you don't look at him and bow or look the other way, you're going to be killed. And if you don't have his picture in your house, you're going to be killed. Yeah, and that's, I'm telling you. And they do.

They worship the grant. This man is God to them. Well, the funny thing is, oh, man. They're starting, there's news articles and magazines coming out. They're comparing Joe Biden to Jesus Christ. Literally. Swear to God. This is actually happening.

Joe doesn't have shiny eyes. It doesn't matter. It doesn't freaking matter. I'm just kidding. But I guess my point is, guys and girls, is that in order for us to ever be on the level of other civilizations in our universe. We are absolutely on the wrong path right now to do that. Like, all we're doing right now is setting ourselves back.

I mean, if you, if you bring, if you, if you erase history, then you're bound to repeat it. If you don't, like, if you forget, like, okay, for example, black and blacks and slaves, there are no slaves now, but we're repeating it. they're trying to make us get back to that. If you live in the past, you're going to repeat it, is what I'm trying to say. I don't ever see black people being slaves again. But although we may not.

But I think we're just, we're reliving the past. Yeah, we are. We're reliving the past and they're trying to make it worse than what the past used to be. Yeah. Well, no, you can't say that. I'm sure it was bad back then. No, no, that's what I'm saying. It was very bad back then.

Yeah. But what I'm saying is there is a party in this country that is trying to make black people think that it is worse than then almost. Yeah. And it's not. And that all white people are white supremacists. Yeah, it may not, it may not be good, but it's not nearly what it. It may not be perfect, but it's not nearly what it was then.

Yeah. The advancement is far beyond anything. And the thing is, we shouldn't ever have to even say that. We're all human beings. We are. It doesn't matter. I mean, I know people say this all the time. It doesn't matter your color.

No, it doesn't. It's a, your blood is, it blees red. We are all the same. And you know what? We might have DNA of aliens in some of us. Who freaking knows? Well, we don't know. But guys, all I'm saying is we, in order to advance and to ever actually figure out if, you know, if we can communicate with aliens, man, we've got to get our shit together.

Because we're like, we're a fighting country. We're fighting world right now. It's always about wars and money and oil and all this shit. I guess what we're saying is this is much bigger than what we bicker about. We got to get over this stuff and stop bickering. And I think that's the one thing that aliens can teach us. Yes. Is we've got to be a whole.

We can't be fractions. We can't be fractions of a world. That's not going to ever work. And even the way the governments are. I'm even talking about other countries. I know. But I would love to know how these alien civilizations have governments. Because I don't think if you had party governments, meaning...

I don't think they even have anything like us. I think their worlds are completely different than ours. It could be way worse than ours. in some ways. No, I think they're way more intellectual than us. No, I know. I believe that. But what I'm saying is... In order to be smart, they had to get here, right? Yeah, but what I'm saying is freedom. In order to be smart, they all are a collaborative group.

Maybe they're made to be, though. Well, maybe we were made to be. Yeah, but that's the thing. But that's, but here's the problem is like, how do you make it a collaborative one world thing? I'm just saying, I'm saying UFOs and alien people, people for different places, maybe that's how they get here. Plus, you say we're like a younger, like, we're younger in the universe or whatever, but still. Oh, yeah, we are by far. By millions of years in some cases.

Billions even. And maybe we're just, you know, we're at the tip of the iceberg learning. We're at the very start of it. Yeah. But I wish I was like, I mean, I want to live to see what happens. Well, I think no matter if you die or live, you're going to know what happens. I hope so. I do believe that truly.

I believe when you die, we're. We're going to probably know before people that are still living. Oh, we're going to be able to look in the future and see what the aliens are trying to tell us? I believe when we die, we're going to know without question. Like infinity. Yeah, we're going to know everything. I do believe that. I believe we're going to be a part of that.

Everything we're talking about right now, I believe we're going to be a part of that whole thing. But if you think about there's always something pushing you to be better. If it's your soul or something else, maybe it's somebody else. I don't know. I don't know. Like, it's so like over our heads. A lot of people believe that they use the Bible to make you want to be better. And that's the way that they control people.

That's what atheists will say are people that don't believe in God. Whereas I do see their argument in that. I also believe that a universe created by anything or anyone is not meant to be bad. Chad, I've been around Christians that have made me cry. You cannot even go there. Well, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm telling you is that you're not listening to what I'm saying. obviously because like did you not just hear what I said?

What I'm telling you is. That the Bible pushes you to be better. No, that's not what I said at all. What did you say? I'm saying atheists believe that they use the Bible to make people be good. Yeah, to make people be good. And behave. That's what I'm telling you.

But what I'm saying is regardless of whether you believe in the Bible or not. It's kind of like a dog training. No, but listen, but listen, whether you believe in a Bible or not, do you really believe that if someone did create the universe? And so then say you don't believe anyone created the universe. it just, that doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't. But how do you know that was God's words in the Bible?

Well, I don't know that. But what I'm saying is you either believe something created this or a Big Bang theory. That's literally like what else? I mean, okay, it could be just an infinite universe where chances of life just happen, right? It didn't just happen. But I don't believe that because we are like for even, for our planet, for example. Yeah, we're intellectual for our planet. I think.

Yeah, but our planet is, oh, it is. But what I'm saying is our planet is on a perfect axis and a perfect environment. The sun is there. The moon's there for our waves. We're in the perfect distance. We're in the perfect everything. And then out of that, we evolved supposedly from monkeys, which I don't believe that because monkeys still exist.

But we as people were made or created or happened. We had lungs. We had all of the organs to make us live, breathe, think everything. And you're telling me that that happened. from a Big Bang? I don't believe it. Well, they're saying that it started in the ocean, and it was people, it was like animals without lungs,

is what they were saying is evolution. It came from one cell or whatever. I don't believe that, though. Yeah, I mean, it's more unbelievable to me than something created it. Like, if you think of, just think about this for a second. We're talking about aliens, but think about this. I believe that you can't say that if you believe in aliens,

you don't believe in the Bible, because that's the furthest of the truth. I think, if anything, if you can prove aliens exist, you should believe more in the Bible. God said that he created the heavens and the earth. Yeah, if you think aliens are the heavens. But also in the Bible, with the people that were

right in the Bible at a time, they had no social media. You've got to think about this. They had no media. They had no TV. They saw these things in the skies as angels. Because what else could it be? They had technology. Okay, what if they did see real angels? What if we're wrong? But they didn't, but if you

read. But their pictures don't look like that. It's not even the pictures. I'm talking about the descriptions. don't make any sense about why they would be angels. Like angels coming from the heavens. Yeah, it just, it doesn't make sense. And so what I'm saying is, is that even in the Bible, it says when you know my time is near to coming back, according to Jesus, or God talking about Jesus coming back and getting his people, if you believe that, it says, look to the heavens to see signs from the heavens, right? And it's weird because we've been seeing more alien stuff than we've ever seen. I disagree with that.

I think we've seen it all along. We're just not in tune with it. We've seen it all long. But man, it's been all over the place. Well, but different errors, they've either ignored it or acknowledged it, right? Like when I was a little girl, that's when the Encounters movie came out. I mean, that was super big then. And then it was not big.

And then it was, I think it also has to do with, like, political stances. Really? Well, what I'm saying is, but that's my problem with political and two parties. systems and governments in general is that they they hinder what we can achieve when they hinder what we know and look if you they hinder what we know chad yeah i know like everything is so secret is like why can't we know the truth about everything well they i think they know way more than what we know yeah they do why did why hide it from us let us know and let us make our own decisions as human beings well that's what i'm saying and and that's that's that's the problem of censorship

And his censorship like Bob Lazar, for example, in Area S4, when he came out with a story that he worked on spacecraft and he stuck to his story to this day. And then you got military pilots that say that these things that they encountered out on the Pacific Ocean and that they got in their Fleer radar were exactly like Bob Lazar explained that he worked on. And the thing is, Bob Lazar himself said, if this UFO and this whatever crap wouldn't be so damn censored to where it made it impossible for anybody that had smarts and like he was basically the only person that worked on the proportion he wasn't the only one there was a few people but the problem is but they weren't even allowed to talk to each other yes they weren't allowed to talk to each other and make like conclusions or anything so how are you supposed to figure this thing out if you don't have somebody because they're so damn secretive and it's not they're not secretive about it's not they're not secretive about it. aliens.

That's not even what it is. It's almost like a cigarette. Like, we want to get ahead on our defense system. Yes. It's a secretive for other countries. Yeah. They are so damn, the government is so damn selfish. And so, and this is the way this world has evolved.

And this is why Ari, for example, says that we're not a intelligent life form. And don't think, though, we have evolved this world. No, they are. But what I'm saying, we've evolved this life form. this world into believing that you were against all countries, all people, and therefore we can never progress. And that includes when you are against other countries and secretive of other countries, you're also secretive to your own people. Yeah. Which Bob Lazare called out and said, if we had collaborative efforts from scientists around the world with what I saw and what I was

witnessing, as smart as I am, we could have had this damn thing figured out. But we can't. Yeah, we can't. Because we can't progress. I mean, and that's the problem is everything's secretive. Yep. And this government and the way the world works and all this shit is just screwed up, people. This is not the way alien life forms that are ever going to visit us work. I promise you that. And I think they're just kind of coming to look and seeing how we're screwing up our world.

I mean, I kind of think that. I think if they came here, which I think they have. Oh, my gosh. They do all the time. I know they do. But I think they're just like, this is ridiculous. Like, I mean, I think... I think they've been coming to us since the beginning of time for us.

Yeah, just like the F-18 encounters, the F-18 fighter pilots. And this craft that encountered this thing was almost toying with these fighter jets. They're like, okay, this is retarded. Like, you know, like... You want to see something cool? This is what I can do. Yeah, this thing's going mock too. Okay.

Let me show you how to go from zero to... Yeah, let me show you how I do it. Zero to one light year in like no time. You know what I mean? And it's like, it's a joke. It is. It's a joke to them. I mean, especially if you believe in aliens, which I do.

No, I mean, there's, I don't. Do you believe in aliens? Like, straight up, do you? 100%. Do you believe that they're, like, around us all the time? Not all the time. I don't think. I do.

I don't know that they're around this all the time. Daily, chat. I know. If you go to UFO sightings.com or whatever it is, there is daily sitings somewhere in this world. I know, but a lot of those could be BS. But what I am saying is, BBS. My big things is air traffic controllers, pilots, fighter pilots, military, all those.

Well, even like regular pilots that, you know, United, Frontier, those kind of pilots. Commercial pilots. But the military thing, why they couldn't hide the military Fleer radar thing as far as aliens existing. But they have before. No, but they have for a long time. Yeah, and they finally came out with it. And the reason they finally came out with that is because these pilots from the military, were coming out and saying stuff.

And the government felt like they had to come out with it. This lead guy is like, listen, we can't do this. Who? The lead, like, Air Force guy. At first he wanted to hide it. Commander David Fravor. Yeah, he wanted to hide it at first. He didn't want to hide it.

No, he didn't. Well, he was forced to hide it. Are you talking about the recent one? I don't know, but he wanted, something happened where they hit it and then they're like, nope, we're going to let it come out. I don't know. But what I'm talking about David Fraver, the recent guy that has the Tick-Tack Toe video. Where they get it on.

radar and walk in. Yeah, he wasn't one to hide it ever. Like, that's what I'm saying. No, I'm thinking in early documents. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree that, yeah. But yeah, the CIA documents. Yeah, the CIA documents, they hit it. But even then, there were

whistleblowers, what you would call them back then. And that's why they changed their mind. Okay, we're going to come out and tell the truth. In those documents, which we actually have on our article now on the website, investigate at the podcast.com, if you look up CIA releases UFO files. You can read the documents we talked about in the last podcast. But what it does say is there were significant figures that kept and were persistent on going to these organizations saying, no, we want the report. We want this information.

We want this. And thankfully, there are people like that that are. And Ari, and I hate to screw his name up. But I'm just saying we are all excited about these CIA. reports coming out like we're going to finally know something and we're going to know about it but even like an aisle there was 2,500 pages of the CIA records I read probably the first like six documents I guess I mean I tried to like read them thoroughly and it was just kind of oh yes yeah professor lobe they like Ari lobe they were saying this is people that like are saying this is what they think but we think it's something different but that's how it was back

Man, I don't know. Yeah, Ari Loeb is the guy I'm referring to. He's the Harvard professor. Is he that Amu-Mu-Mu-A? Amu-a. Yeah, Amu-a-Mua. Yeah, Amu-a-Mua. He is the guy that has started.

Amuamuamuah is. So what Amu-N-Mua is, is that is the craft that we believe. Oh, that one that we saw coming from outer space. Yes, it is an outer space craft. It is a Mu-a-Mua is called. It's basically a mistake. interstellar object and some people say it could be a light cell sent from another civilization. And so NASA may have ruled the Amu Amoa the first interstellar object ever spotted in our system

as a metallic or rocky object approximately 400 meters in length, which is 1,312 feet in length, or 130 feet wide. But a new study from the Harvard-Smithson Center of Astrophysics says it could be something much more exciting. It could be a light cell of artificial origin and they believe it could be sent from another civilization. The study, which was posted online earlier this

month, suggests that Amuamu is strained excess acceleration could be artificial in nature and it has been implied that it is not an active comet. So the quote from the researchers said that considering an artificial origin one possibility is that

a muamu is a light cell floating in interstellar space as a debris from an advanced technological equipment. That's where you got the trash or whatever. Yeah, the trash is debris. But the paper continues that light cells with similar dimensions have been designed and constructed by our own civilization, including the Carros project and the Star Shot initiative.

No, no, no, I'm saying. No, I'm saying. We have tried to replicate something similar as far as like how to navigate. Outside our universe. And this is not from us, for sure. but it is something that resembles what we've tried to create, which is strange. Yeah.

Maybe we're trying to recreate what they have. Yeah. Well, no, it's not, no. It's all gravity propulsion. Yeah, we're not trying to create what they have. It's the basics of physics. No. We're trying to recreate.

Not them. Any alien system that doesn't have a propulsion system. You're not listening to me. What I'm telling you is that the basis of physics and the way the solar system. system works is the way it works. And so we're not trying to create it based on that. We have tried to create something similar to that before we even knew that thing was coming through our, and it's because of physics.

Yeah, what was on earth. Well, it's because of what we studied of how, like, if you put a light cell, as they're calling it, and it is accelerating and decelerating based on the light from the sun, that's a way that we can accelerate. It's like a solar thing. Kind of. But what I'm saying is. So that gets away from Bob Lazar.

completely. Well, yes, but this is just one civilization. What I'm saying is that we have tried to create. Solar energy. We have tried, no, not solar energy. It's not even like, it's based on light. It's weird. Well, light comes from sun.

I know that. But what I'm telling you is that we're not, it's not saying that we created what we, what I just talked about based on a. Okay. But you said we're trying to steal on end. No, we're not. No, I was saying we were trying to reinvent the gravity.

propulsion system that Bob Lazar was working on. See, that's what you're completely missing. No. Okay. This has nothing to do with that. I'm not saying it does. What I'm saying is that we created something that is a light cell type light-based propulsion, not gravity, light. This is something completely different.

When did we? This was the Akari's thing, whatever this project is. When was the year? I don't know. How come I don't know? How come we don't know about it? Okay. That's what I'm saying.

How come we don't know about it? I don't know. I just read it. All right. will read what it is. What I'm telling you is the study, which was posted online earlier this, must suggest that Amuamu is strange excess acceleration could be artificial in nature and has been implied that is not an active comet.

Consider an artificial origin, one possibility is that Amuamu is a light cell floating in interstellar space as debris from advanced technology. The paper continues light cells with similar dimensions have been designed and constructed by our own civilization, including the Aikaro's project and the Starshot Initiative. The light cell technology might be abundantly used for transportation of cargoes between planets or between stars. They even theorized that Amu Amu may be a fully operational probe sent intentionally to Earth vicinity by an alien civilization, though that scenario was called exotic. The paper was written by postdoctoral researcher Simaile Ballet, Professor Abraham Loeb, A, that's what we're talking about, Ari. and the director of CFA's Institute for Theory and Computation.

So what they're saying is that we have tried to create something before we even knew about this object coming through our system. We've tried to create something similar to already with two programs. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Okay, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about that. No, we didn't try to steal anything. We've already like mathematically, physically. Well, you said, recreate.

Yeah, but we didn't because we didn't know anything about this. And so what I'm saying is there were programs that we were trying to create something based on the physics and the light and the sun to move energy. Because that's how things were. And this object that came through our solar system had that. And this is not ours. This is something that someone else like some other civilization knew about as we did. Got you. And tried to figure out the same thing.

And physics. Yeah. Is the push. Push, pull. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a push-pull thing. And, you know, and it's the, you know,

it's the, it's not and at that point, it's not, it's not even the basics of flight. You know, flight is drag and lift and all that. Yeah, this is push. This is gravity, which is completely different, push and pull. And it's, you know, it's relative to whatever you're around. It's the forces.

It's the forces of whatever you're around, right? Well, you said something about solar, didn't you? Yeah, it's light and all that stuff. Yeah. They're using solar power or something. Solar or some kind of stuff. I'm not that smart. I haven't researched it that in a much.

But what I'm saying is that this, the crazy thing, I guess kind of how they know this, is that this civilization is strange because the way this thing acted was what a project that has been already created or tried to create from here. When it warped around Earth or whatever. Yeah, all their mathematical, physical,

or physics computations, this is what we were trying to create to see if that worked. So, with that said, then this object comes around and it has very similar characteristics of what we've already kind of been trying to figure out. And so somebody or something, at some point in time, it already figured this out. And that's why Professor Loeb says it could be debris or something that, you know, they sent off.

But they still could be monitoring. Right? I mean, they could still be monitoring this from their planet. Or maybe this is their very novice, like, novice thing that's just getting here. Well, like they have, well, it's like they, what's I'm saying? You know, it's kind of like our novice music thing that we just sent. Yeah, you're right. It could be very novice to their world. Yeah, and by now, they could be far more advanced than that. But what I'm saying is it's just getting here.

But they're probably still monitoring it either way, just like our Mars rovers or that we've sent and it takes us six months. Well, it's just like our thing that we sent with the music that's going to take what you'll use. radio wave. 17 years. It's not even a thing. It's a wave. It's a radio signal. And we have a way to monitor that system.

Yeah. But we also have a craft that has went to the furthest depths of our solar system. And it's still out there now. It's way far, like way out there now. It's taking pictures of Jupiter and all this stuff. It's still going. Well, Jupiter is not that far. Or sat.

I mean, it's taking pictures of everything. It's the furthest we've ever had any craft of any kind. And it actually took a picture of Earth from where it is. and it's a star. It looks like a... A little star. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

So anyways, guys, I don't know. There's so much to be said about it. We could freaking go on forever. We're not going to go on. This has been two hours and 13 minutes now. Sorry, we're getting involved in this stuff. But you guys like to hang out with us and talk about it. Yeah, this is hanging out.

And so all these things, you know, you have these ancient pictures that have these crafts. And like I said, if you look at it, you look at it. at the relative newness of this world and you look at these paintings from thousands of years ago. Well, thousands of years ago to us sounds like an extremely long time ago. The reality is though

is that it's not. Thousands of years is a minuscule time period. And so you're looking at aliens and you're like, oh my God, I can't believe aliens would exist that long ago. No, that long ago to aliens is probably nothing. Considering there are alien civilizations probably

that are millions or billions of years They have There are civilizations that have millions Well you don't know that we think that You think that There has to be But there has to be Yeah

Millions or billions of years Far more advanced than we are I agree So I mean So the fact We don't have proof I guess is what I'm saying Yeah but like But it's the same difference of

If we would have thought That we could be talking right now On a podcast That is reaching You know millions of people really, all over the world. If we would have thought about that 60 years ago, that we could just sit here right now,

we're in our thing. We would think that's some alien technology. Same thing with electric cars that drive themselves now. They're literally Tesla, and Elon must have cars that you can sit there and chill and it drives itself. I mean, those are things that we,

even 30 years ago would be alien. Well, even microwave. Anything, yes. I mean, and so that to us sounds crazy. So, so when we start thinking in our brains, that alien spaceships that can travel light years away sounds insane. It's not to them. They're like, oh my God, they think this is insane. Like, they got freaking microwaves to cook your food. Like, we have instant things. We just put it in this, like, it's already done, you know? You know what I'm saying? It's like. It's like the Jetsons. You have to, you have to think of like what our mind comprehends. And our mind only comprehends

what we see and know at the time. And I think that's what's great and amazing about people like us and other people that look for for things outside of what we know. Those are the only people that are ever going to advance us. You look at Elon Musk. That's true. Elon Musk is figuring out ways to get to Mars. He's trying to figure out a way to colonize Mars.

He sold all of his houses. He sold everything. He's trying to colonize Mars. He's trying to get to hell. He sold everything. And the reason he sold all of his million-dollar. houses is because he said that he has to concentrate on the one thing that he has to do for our civilization. Did make us survive.

Yes. And not even just survive, but to advance us. And so I, Elon Musk is probably my idol, like as far as people living on this earth. Elon Musk is exceptional as a human being as far as trying to figure out how we're going to advance. I have to say Dr. Seuss was way before our time too. like in it you're looking at me weird but it's a truth it's a truth dr sus was way before our time if you read any of his books for example the lorax means way before our time he you know he was talking about pollution in our in our

atmosphere in our earth and at that time there was nothing like that like right now i feel like our earth is getting overpopulated well it is but we have no choice i mean the only other choice we have, which is what, you know, scary thing is, is the COVID. How do you depopulize the earth and make it not your fault? You know, we're taking down trees and taking down forest. We're not even going to go into that, but it's scary. But I'm just saying Dr. Seuss thought about that like way back. I agree. Yeah. In the warax. Well, guys, I hope that tonight we're going to leave you with this. Man, I don't know. Like, we're in a little specks on this plan. We're a little specks on this planet and

yeah hell if you don't like what I said you know what I'm a spec so it doesn't matter but we're even little specks we're specs on this planet much less the universe so if there's a way that we can all advance if you care about aliens if you care about advancement of our civilization and I need to take my own advice on this I'm not just preaching you know I want to practice what I preaching to the choir well I want to practice what I preach but do something all of you to like change our course of our future because it's up to all of us if if

me talking right now was talking to the entire world right now everyone if everyone had to listen to what I was saying I would say that you have to do something positive tomorrow the next day like concentrate on positive rather than negative don't concentrate on your beliefs as much as you concentrated on the people next to you. Exactly, Chad. No, Sherry, it's not just me. I think they're learning a lot. But I know I am passionate about my country and I'm passionate about our beliefs. But what I'm saying is that I believe our beliefs are based in people that we have no control. Well, they do have control over us. It's a sad thing. But but but really the control lies in the people. And yeah. And and and and and and and and and we're not

letting a minority control the majority. Yep. Yep. Literally. Yep. And I'm not saying overtake a government. What I'm saying is come together as a majority.

Because people, the people and the citizens of this world are a majority. And if we can all figure out a way to agree. To me, the minority is the higher up people.

Yes, they are. The majority is all us people. But they have all the control. Is that crazy? And that's, I mean, that's in every country. Yes.

The minority is the high class, you know, you can't touch me people. And the majority is all of us. If you think about it on that spectrum, we're all together. Well, we are, but we're not. And that's the... Yeah, but we should be.

The only way that they can... But here's the thing I want you all to understand. The only way that they can remain the minority with the authority... My own. I'm going to make a lot. I'm going to make a lot. Yep. And that's what they're doing.

And I need to quote that. And I need to quote that. Yeah, I'm going to make a rapid. about that. But they have to because look, the thing is, if you have the majority altogether, you have no chance as the minority. You have to make those majorities

into minorities as close and as small as you. And I know this is a little bit off of what we're talking about, but think about it. But it's true. You got in the United States, you have Black Lives Matter, you have Antifa, you have Christians, you have Trump supporters, you have independence,

you have people that don't give a crap. Yeah, you have people that don't care about anything. You have, uh, you have all these people, but they're all minorities now. Yeah. They're not a majority anymore. They have divided the entire country. And, yet their little minority is now bigger than what could be our majority, but it's not, because we're all minorities. So us people, I'm saying us people need to come together. Yeah, we, we have to advance. I'm saying not, we can't, we can't depend on our government to advance us, because I promise you, guys, if we depend on our government to advance us, we're going to be here forever.

We're going to be in the same bullshit we've always been in. We have to depend on ourselves as people to advance our people. And we're talking about every people. It doesn't matter. We all believe red. Yes, all people. And maybe some people bleed green, but we accept you too. Yeah, I mean, all people.

We just have to unite as human beings. I know there's probably aliens here. Because in the Bible, it talks about I am the ruler of all people. If you believe in God, then he's the ruler. There is no authority over him and there is no nothing over him. We all have rights as human beings. We do. And don't matter where you're at or who you're like what country you're from.

We all do have rights. And the thing is, is that the problem is we're all divided by country, by religion, by beliefs, by color, by everything. And it's the head, it's the heads of these authoritarian governments that divide us because they have. have to. Without division, they can't control. Yeah. So I wonder if God's thinking about Noah's Ark soon. I don't know. That's how he stopped it before. It could be in a different way, though. We don't even know about. I mean, that's the scary thing is it could be in a different way that we don't even know about. And, you know, I don't know. I mean, it's just a, it's a scary thing to me. And I hope that all of us know that, man, we got to advance, you know.

We have to advance. If we ever want to be what alien civilizations could be, then we've got to do something. Do you believe that? Yeah, but it comes more than that. We have to, like, generally love each other because we are the same people. Yeah, I agree.

And we bleed the same blood. And we've got to get over this bullshit. I agree. You know, I know there's things in the past, things right now, things of the future, but right now we just have to deal with what we have. I agree. And we're all people.

And until we figure that out, then we're not going to go anywhere. Well, it's been a great podcast tonight. I don't know. By the way, guys, I want to get into damn photography of the, what is it called? The astronomy? Space photography, yeah.

I want to get a damn, like an awesome, what is it called? Telescope. Telescope, shit, I can't think. Chad, we got to get off. And what's the thing that you do with the... I'm just kidding. What's the thing do you take pictures with? I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding. No, I know. We got to... I want to get an astronomy photography. Yeah, that's awesome. Like with a telescope. Yeah, and hopefully we see like... An aliens.

And aliens. But no, I want to... Well, if there is any UFOs or aliens listening, you are welcome into our house. Yeah. I accept you. Alien, if you're listening, play music now. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, Chad.

They're doing it. There's the music. All right, guys. We have stayed past our welcome. Thank you for listening to night. Go to investigate earthpodcast.com. Go sign up for our community. We love all of you, man.

We're all people. We're all human beings at the end of day. We're a speck in this giant universe. Man, look, we've got to compete with our alien friends. Okay, they're out there. They want to hang out with us, but we're too damn stupid right now. And they won't want to hang out with us. Would you want to hang out with someone that just was born and you want to go to a bar or something?

No, because they're stupid. They're kids. They're little infants. That's what aliens think we are. We're infants. So we got to quit being infants. We got to be grown-ass adults. All right, guys.

We love you. We love you. Next episode coming two days. Peace out. Peace out.