Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - UFOs UAPs over Langley Military Base or Advanced Technology with Ashton Forbes

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

On this episode, we dive into the recent reports of UFOs and UAPs spotted over Langley Military Base and other key military installations that have emerged over the past week. We also explore the accounts of UFO crashes near Washington, D.C., and Raleigh, North Carolina. Joining us is Ashton Forbes, the investigative journalist who made headlines with his groundbreaking research into the MH370 mystery, shaking up the worlds of science and physics with his insights into advanced technology.

Nobody told you this before. I'll shine the sun. The type that I've been looking for, I've seen you inside my dreams. So maybe come a little closer. Hello and welcome to Investigator at Podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're talking about aliens, UFOs, UAPs, advanced technology. We don't know exactly what's been going on over the past week,

but we have had very strange sightings over military bases such as Langley military base in Virginia. We've also had reported crash landings in Washington, D.C. and Raleigh, are those real? Are they not? There's even been stuff coming back out about the Miami Mall incident, which many people said that potentially they saw an alien. And actually, Ashton and I talked a lot about that when it happened. But we felt like there was no one better to bring on on this episode than Ashton Forbes. Ashton Forbes, welcome to the show. Nice to have you back, man. Thank you.

I'm the resident UFO zero point energy expert out here, you know, and soon to be a world famous physicist. You've got to fake it until you make it. Absolutely. I actually saw that post, which we'll get into in just a moment. But guys, welcome to the show. It is October the 16th. We are about 19 days now, I guess, from the election.

I keep counting this down because it just seems like. like a doomsday type scenario. Hopefully not. We'll see what happens with the elections. But guys, we have had a lot of episodes recently covering Hurricane Helene. We've talked about weather modification. We've also talked about the FEMA slash militia incident in North Carolina.

We talked about that last night. If you guys want to hear about that, please go back and listen to those episodes. But yeah, we do have Ashton Forbes back on again because I told him, I said, it's kind of interesting how I'm starting to see some narrative switch. a little bit at the very least and when we started hearing about these crash landings or or whatever

this was over Washington DC and Raleigh, North Carolina, wasn't a meteor, was the craft, there were multiple objects, a very wild story, but if facts have not been released yet, you can bet that they are playing damage control right now, many say, I want to get to just a couple of clips. This is a clip from a listener, well, actually, he had sent us this clip. I'm not sure if he's a listener or not, but this is the clip when they're. this was happening check this out okay i do not know what's going on right now i heard a noise i come outside there's sirens blaring and i see this huge trail in the sky it's midnight right now and there's this huge trail like something crash landed what the heck is that what is this

By the way, what he's seeing here, it looks like a huge con trail. This is about midnight. This is when people were hearing loud bangs, crashes. A lot of people came out and said, hey, this was nothing more than a meteor shower that was happening over certain parts of the United States. Very strange. But then here's also another take on this. This back road. Yo, am I tripping right?

Okay. So I was, I'm in Raleigh, North Carolina. Please tell me if you got, anybody saw this. but I was coming back from the gym off of this back road outside of Raleigh, North Carolina, and we're like the road and the trees and the sky opens up. What the... I swear, I saw giant sparks, like a plane, like, maybe on fire or, like, I don't know,

but it was like there was sparks across the sky, and it left, like, a huge, like, illuminated smoke trail, like behind it for a long time. And then like three seconds later, the biggest aircraft I've ever seen in my life flies right over my truck and it was completely silent. And it had like four flashing lights on it. What the fuck?

And then now like right outside, I'm here for work living in a hotel. And right outside my hotel, there's like four black undercover police officers just like posted up at an intersection. I don't know what. What the f did I just see? So by the way, this reminds me, I hate to be like this. But Ashton, have you ever saw the videos, the memes that this dude that's like,

what's up, bro? It's like when the cops come to the window. And he's like, I'm not smoking in here. Do you think of smoking or like smokes coming out? And he's like, oh, is that a. red light. I didn't even see the red light, bro. That's who this guy reminds me. By the way, I'm not saying that he's the dude.

I'm just saying. Sounds a little bit like it. Yeah, I watched both those clips last few days. And part of the reason why I didn't really dig into it is that it wasn't really enough solid evidence. Like the smoke trail for the listeners, they probably can't tell very much. But this, like, it looks like a giant smoke trail in the sky and looks pretty low. It was pretty unusual.

But yeah, the other guy looked like he had had. A couple of edibles and yeah, I didn't really know how credible he was. Yeah, we also have some other posts. So what just fell from the sky, crash landing seen in six states caught on video. Overwhelming number of reports flooding in of mysterious objects falling from the sky and crash landing. Some are saying it's Project Blue Beam or Project Blue Book. Media is silent on this. Washington, D.C. reported the most sightings along with North Carolina, New Jersey, Montana, Texas, and Maryland.

And so very, very interesting to say the least. But then Pentagon officials one day, about one or two days ago, claims that a mothership, UFO, operating drone swarms over U.S. bases. Now, this is coming from Mario Nafal, a I would say pretty well respected journalist on X. Obviously, X is becoming massive news platform. And you have people like Mario in the fall and others, including Ashton, by the way, that, have taken advantage of the fact that you can get out information and true information as much as you possibly can. Mario is one of those guys.

I think he's one of the top journalist at the very least, or at least top news gatherers on the platform. And so his report says a senior Pentagon official has confirmed that UFO mother ships were spotted releasing swarms of smaller craft over multiple U.S. military installations. The revelation comes amid reports of unexplained drone incursions over Langley Air Force. Force Base last December. Now the fast-moving craft displayed flashing lights and evaded anti-drone defenses. Chris Mellon, a former Defense Department official, says the brazenness range and resistance

of countermeasures of these objects are confounding. Similar intrusions have occurred over Skunkworks facility in California, and in response, NASA was called in to assist with Imogen the mysterious craft using his high altitude WB57F plain, suggesting the government was truly baffled by the incidents. While the original, or sorry, while the origin remains unknown, some experts speculate the objects may be from a local source, given the conspiracies, conspicuous behavior, sorry, seemingly meant to taunt authorities. However, the Pentagon officials confirmation of mothership UFO adds a remarkable new

dimension of these national security breaches. So, first of all, Ashton, why is the Pentagon talking about motherships releasing drones over military bases? I mean, this sounds obviously science fiction. And, you know, I don't want to be one of these to say, hey, we do not believe the government on basically anything. But all of a sudden, we're supposed to believe the government about UFO motherships. That's releasing drones over military bases. Am I wrong here? Yeah, well, so I guess if you want to look at the history,

of the various leaks that have come out. I'd say that there are two plausible hypotheses at play here. One is that if you believe the 4chan whistleblower, I believe it was called, who claimed to be part of a crash retrieval program. This was a summer of last year. And they claimed that in this long post that they made in some reason, they were answering people and everything seemed like he was an extremely elaborate LARP or they were the real deal, that they're these underwater UFOs.

And at this point, I think we're very familiar that these UFOs are transmitting. They can go between water, space, and air at ease because they're manipulating gravity around them and spacetime around them. And just as a quick side note, in the hearings next month, I believe it's November 13th is the next UFO congressional hearings. I think the Admiral Tim Galloway, I don't know how to say his last name. I think he and some others are going to be harping a lot on the idea that these things are U.S.Os, unidentified submersible objects predominantly, and that's where we're seeing them.

So anyway, you can believe, if you believe the 4-Channel whistleblower, you would think that we might, there might be these underwater bases that they've got that are mobile that are producing UFOs to spec, and that they can essentially 3D print them directly out of the zero-point energy around us. They can harness energy and 3D print these things. Pretty incredible. The other theory would be that we're dealing with some type of plasma phenomenon. And if it's a plasma phenomenon, presumably they can, like, give birth to smaller versions of themselves from a bigger version of it. Now, I know this probably sounds crazy at first, but if you dig into Ken's shoulders work on exotic vacuum objects, you find that plasma actually has these self-organizing properties.

and it tends to form a sphere because it manipulates something called a magnetic monopole, which means that there's a magnet force, but it's only in one direction instead of like, you would imagine a bar magnet that has these like loops. Yeah. And there's a bit a couple of videos that are out there that show some type of UFO floating in the sky, neither stuff dripping off of it or smaller versions of it coming out like the side. Mm-hmm. and that, in my opinion, would be some type of plasma phenomenon.

So if we're really bringing it back down to Earth instead of just what the headlines say, I would expect that those be the two leading candidates, if that's real. Isn't it interesting, Ashton, you're talking about USOs? And obviously, we have a lot of talk about UFOs and UAPs, unidentified flying objects, unidentified aerial phenomena, that is the two, especially UAP, is the, coin or sorry the term coin by the government the new word instead of UFO yeah right and so you think about USOs underwater submersible objects and then you go back to David framerer where they had this contact off the west coast you know which is the tick-tack video and which is blown up all over

mainstream media and so what they believe that this thing was communicating or had some type of interaction with some type of craft underwater is what they believed and then this thing went from one place to another instantaneously almost. And they said a mother ship was under there too, under the ocean. Yeah, is what they believe. You go back to MH370. Obviously, MH370 was also over water. And in the videos, Ash, and I just want to ask, isn't it the first object that appears

comes from the water in from what your analysis is on that? Oh, yeah, it's a good memory. The second orb appears to come from the water in those videos. and that is interesting because a lot of people ask me in those videos, where do I think the orbs come from? And at this point, I'm sure those orbs are exotic vacuum objects, exactly what Ken's shoulders figured out 20, 30 years ago. And they could be deployed from pretty much anything.

They could be deployed from a submarine, a ship, a plane, satellite. Because they're transmedium and origin, they can basically come from anywhere. And because they have these self-sustaining properties, Ken's shoulders called them exotic vacuum objects because he believed they were cohering energy out of the vacuum, out of the zero point fluctuations all around us, which means that they're just self-sustaining.

And this is really the difference between some people talk about these plasmas that are like projections that they can create, like holographic things that would require some energy source to be getting pumped into it, as opposed to something where it's like you make it and all of a sudden it's just, boom, now you've got this ball of plasma and it just stays there. Yeah. Right. But from our experience, when I've seen it,

physically with my own eyes. I'm going with the second, the plasma thing, where you're saying they kind of give birth to themselves because it looked like it was a plasma kind of form thing and then all these different things come off of it. Yeah, we saw, yeah, there was one particular incident where we saw these orbs that basically appeared and then one orb went into three. It was very interesting. It was the craziest sighting we've ever had and something that was very fascinating.

we also would appear to be high, high, flying jets near these objects at a time. Yeah, following them. Yeah, we also had car alarms going off in our neighbor. And I know this sounds like a sci-fi story. But I'm telling the truth. This is what happened. And we saw like it was a big bulb thing. And then other things were breaking out from it.

Like you're saying kind of like a rebirth thing or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some type of scenario like that. And then if you go back to Bob Lazar, for example, you know, Bob Lazar was talking about this in the 80s, what potentially he worked on or they had him go to area S4 to work on. And what he believed back then was the, I guess, the power structure of these craft or

the propulsion. He believed they had some type of anti-gravity or filled around these craft. He said this back in the 80s, especially the 90s. And then obviously you have, you know, you have Jeremy Corbell and you have George Knapp that have worked on that story, especially George Knapp with. Bob Lazar. What do you feel about Bob Lazar stories now, especially since you've been studying MH370 and the physics around everything, especially with the orbs?

Do you think that he's telling the truth? He just maybe don't understand what he was seeing? Yeah, I've always thought Bob Lazar was highly credible. I think that they attacked him and even maybe destroyed some of his records and were able to discredit him pretty easily because of that. He maybe even told a couple of lives that allowed them to discredit him. even more. Actually, just fun story just recently. I'm on these email chains from Jacks Arfadi that includes every single person in the UFO community, like all these people like Louis

Al-Zondo, Ross Colhart, Jeremy Corbell, George Knapp, a bunch of physicists and stuff like that as well. And it also includes this guy, Ron Pendolfi, who's like this legendary CIA spook. And they started pushing weird disinformation in the email chain to like 75 people about like his Ashton Forbes, Blah, Blah, and like they were like somewhat joking. But Ron Pendolphi, like, said all this stuff about Bob Lazar lied about his records and never worked Elos, which is crazy because he did work there. He's like literally in the phone book there. He just was a contractor, which is very normal to be a contractor. So, yeah, I think Bob Lazar was legit. My personal opinion, and actually one more quick anecdote is that Loua Azondo has done

the whole mainstream media tour on like every podcast and every mainstream show. It's clearly not organic at all. Like he's being pushed out there. He thanks James Clapper. former director of national intelligence in his book. And it's weird where if he gets asked about Bob Lazar or even Stephen Greer, he pretends like he doesn't know who they are, which is crazy to me. Because as somebody who's just like a citizen journalist who started looking into UFOs just like a year ago, of course I know these guys' stories. You have to know these guys' stories, understand the lay of the land.

Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, Bob Lazar, I think he was legit. I wonder truly if we started building these flying saucer type crafts. And then at some point, around the same time, we switched to like predator drones, we realized why use a craft and a person at all? Why not just make a drone out of it? Specifically, and this is for the history buffs and the engineers out there, look into hypersonic crafts.

We've heard Putin talk about hypersonic crafts a lot. And I finally dug into them. I found this guy, Paul Siss, he wrote one of the defense intelligence reference documents for Hal Pudoff about magneto hydrodynamics and advanced propulsion. And there's clips out there, Paul Siz, talking to Dr. Greer as a whistleblower. And he talks about how he worked on some of these hypersonic spy planes that we have. And they have this plasma sheath in front of them. And this plasma sheath is what removes the drag. And it also allows them to propel fast.

faster forward and you would wonder how is that possible. And then when you go and look at Ken's shoulders, work on exactly vacuum. You realize, oh, this is what happened. We realized why have a plane at all? The plasmas with the secret sauce in this recipe. The plane just means that now we have to protect somebody inside the plane from, you know, the heat and all this other stuff. Just make the plasma sheet its own mobile drone and we can just beam a signal to it

and we can remote control it. And then you go, okay, well, there's the answer. Now we can have this plasma orb that defies gravity, has no inertia, that's self-sustaining and self-organizing, and through some type of scalar communication device utilizing the Aaron Hoff-Bome effect, we can give a commands where normally if you would shoot a radio signal at a ball plasma, it's not going to be able to penetrate. So that's what I think is going on with respect to that.

So I think Bob Lazar could have certainly seen old. or crafts that either we dug up, that we, that crashed, whatever you believe in terms of non-human intelligence, but that at some point, and, you know, his sightings and his area 51 stuff was like the late 80s, that was almost 40 years ago, where we figured out we don't need that anymore, and we've moved away from it. And that's why you're seeing these balls of light in the sky, which is they're all, this plasma-based phenomenon. And a lot of it, if not all of it, is probably us, which explains why the government's not freaking out when we see these things over our military bases.

It's the defense contractors, and the military has no idea. Truthfully, they have no clue. People would think, well, wouldn't the military, no? No, absolutely not. Especially not if you were just a commander, like commander, framer. He would not be read into this. And it's hilarious that he thinks he would be because there's something called the Wilson Davis memos, where Eric Davis, who's probably the.

number one expert on the world on wormholes and warp drive mechanics. He spoke to Admiral Wilson in like 2002, I want to say it was, and he took notes of their conversation, very detailed notes. And Admiral Wilson was basically complaining that he did not have access to these special access programs for this reverse engineered technology. And you need to be on something called a bigot list, B-I-G-O-T. And if you're on the bigot list, then you have access to these programs. And he tells Eric Davis that he was surprised to find out that the people on the

biggest list were mostly third party contractor people, not military members on board. Which is crazy. In some way. Which is crazy. Yeah. And here's another fun story about this to just really add more weight to what I'm saying is that John Ramirez, he's former CIA. He speaks in the UFO community a lot about some of these topics.

He made a very bizarre video that's not even like an interview. It's just like him making a video that he like leaked to podcasters where he says that he knows Eric Davis, this physicist engineer who's like expert of warp drives in a way that Eric Davis doesn't know he knows him. And he says this right after he talks about the bigot list and how he was privyed in the CIA to who was on some of these lists, which implies he saw Eric Davis's name on one of these bigot lists. And he's like, dude, I know you know about, you know, the UFOs. That's interesting. Well, and I have two questions, too, with this because you had mentioned hypersonic and then you also mentioned these third party contractors. Number one, how dangerous is it that our government does not have, in my opinion? I don't think our government technically has control over if we do have these incredible advanced technological crafts, maybe like the Or.

that potentially teleported or did whatever with M.A.370, what we're seeing in the skies. You have these third-party contractor companies, Skunkworks and Raytheon and whoever else, that have control of these. And then also who has control of these companies? Or is it the elites? Is it the big money in the world? Who is really in control of the world right now with this technology? That's my number one question. And then number two, hopefully you can remember this because I don't want to forget the questions. But number two is we know that Russia has a large supply of hypersonic missiles.

And it seems like Russia is far more advanced in hypersonic technology, at least in the missile game, at least from what the United States wants us to believe than the United States. In terms of the United States about six months ago, just tested the hypersonic missile. It failed, I think, multiple times. Russia has actually utilized what many people believe hypersonic missiles in Ukraine, not necessarily obviously nuclear, but in some cases they have utilized. hypersonic missiles and if you go a little bit further you know how they talk about the hypersonic

missiles can turn on a dime even going mock eight or whatever the whatever the speed is there um how is that possible too so maybe you start with gosh that's three questions i'm sorry three deep questions sorry yeah so who's in charge what about the hypersonics and i for the last question that you said a missile wouldn't be able to turn on a dime unless it was completely encased in plasma which does beg the question of like the orbs in MH370 videos, which are showing zero inertia. In fact, the orbs in those videos show all five observables, every single one, which is this list of things that people believe would be required for truly verifiably, you know, technology that is not something that we recognize from standard physics, which are things like

hypersonic travel, transmedium capabilities, no visible propulsion, low visibility. things like that. The thing about Putin and the United States, we of course have hypersonic weapons. Of course we do. The fact that we don't talk about it is pretty telling in the end of itself. If you go to like game strategy,

war strategy, the art of war, you want to project weakness when you're strong and you want to project strength when you're weak. So for the people that think that Putin is, they're beyond us or whatever. I'd say they're probably even third place at the point. It's the United States, nobody else is close, then it's probably China at this point, and then Russia. And mostly because Russia has been falling behind since the fall of the Soviet Union,

if Russia were number one, then they would be having a proxy war with Mexico against the United States as opposed to us having a proxy war with Ukraine against Russia. And let me break in there real quick. Do you think that Israel potentially could be number two? We just don't know it? Oh, Israel's allied with us. So, and I would argue, and these are just my opinions that part of the reason why we protect them is because they help develop technology. If you look at the number of Jewish people who are Nobel Prize winners, especially over the last hundred years, it's wildly disproportionate.

You know, so what's really going on to get to your first point is that there's a basically federation of countries, the Five Eyes countries, and then probably some of the biggest defense and energy contractors in the world that all kind of know about this technology, the people at the highest levels do. And they know this stuff, this stuff exists. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon Musk knows it exists. I've been told several other names of people that you probably wouldn't recognize if I said them, but if you were to go look them up, you'd go, oh, wow, that's somebody

who's like very powerful in their country or extremely wealthy and has some interesting endeavors that they do with their money. But those are types of things where that's where you end up getting straight up disappeared, as opposed to the government stuff. And I know for a fact that this stuff goes on. I've seen absolute proof that there are people in high levels like politics, you know, top CXOs of companies that they know about stuff like over unity devices. They know about some of those propulsion technology. And ultimately, especially when you bring it back to the hypersonics and the plasma, you realize these plasma phenomenon, these exotic vacuum objects, these plasmoids, you're going to hear

all these terms used interchangeably. It's about so much more than just propulsion. Like, that's the secret. It's not a matter of national security that aliens are visiting us. It's not a matter of national security. There's some lights floating around in the sky. The matter of national security is doomsday weapons, weapons that would rise. or obsolete nuclear bombs.

And I think that during the Manhattan Project, I think we actually discovered two things. We discovered E equals MC squared, which made us realize that a very small amount of mass creates a huge amount of energy. And that mass is energy. It's just condensed energy. And then the other thing we realized

is that space is not actually empty. The vacuum is not empty. And we're actually sitting in a balance, an equilibrium of energy, like a giant ocean, and we're just floating on the top of it. And we just pretend like the water doesn't exist, but it's all there everywhere. It's what gives space time its properties.

And if we can pull that energy, then we don't even need the small amount of mass anymore. We can just literally create destructive capability that's beyond comprehension at scales that not only could destroy the planet, but could destroy the entire solar system. And when you look at it from that perspective, you realize two things. One, free energy is possible. It's just a misnomer. It's really accessing energy that's already out there, much like we do with wind or solar, but at much higher efficiencies and unlimited supply. Like we don't have to have the sun shining on us, and we don't have to have the wind blowing. We can just extract it all the time, and it constantly fills in every time we pull the energy out.

And by the way, Ashina, I think this is a good time to go into my first question, which you say that, you know, a weapon like this could even potentially destroy our solar system, right? just think about how massive and powerful this is. So we're, so that's, that's the national security threat. Yeah. So, they're not afraid of a country doing it. We can, you know, all the, all the political leaders talk to each other behind the scenes. Like what we see in the media is just the show. What they're afraid of is like an ISIS terrorist that or somebody who is a fundamental,

religious fundamentalist who's willing to suicide bomb themselves. If they were to have access to an energy source. that could obliterate the entire planet in the size of a cell phone. How would we stop that? We would never be able to stop that. In fact, you could even make the extended argument that the reason why we had to just completely annihilate ISIS and Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan is because with this type of technology being possible, we can't allow there to be religious fundamentalists exist on this planet.

Because if they do, then we are doomed to destroy ourselves. And that's a very scary thought. Because Peter Thiel discussed this on Joe Rogan a few weeks back where he said, what if an alien species has access to a warp drive and they can get to Earth? What if it turns out that the only way we can safely use that technology is if we're all angels or all demons, where we have some sort of totalitarian control over everybody? That's it. I mean, guys, that might be the case.

That might be the reality. Yeah, so you think that is still possible. But, you know, and the reality too is that. But I think scarier is, like you said, the people on earth that have access to these doomsday national security weapons that will demolish all of us. Yeah. And so I guess that's the leading question is who has control of these weapons and how scary is that that our government, it seems like, don't actually know a lot. I mean, and who in our government does is the big question. Yeah, the smallest number possible.

So another thing that I heard, which made a lot of sense, it was actually on a TikTok video, but it was one that a guy, I think clearly was in the know. It wouldn't surprise me who was a veteran, says that we learned from the Manhattan Project where too much stuff leaked out. And of course, we had to tell people because we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So you drop a giant atomic bomb on people, people are going to figure out, okay, equals MC squared. But with zero point energy, we realized that we have to compartmentalize it even more. we came up with several the invention secrecy act the atomic secrecy act which means that anything related to like energy production regarding atomic stuff which you could you could argue zero point energy falls under that umbrella it's born secret which means they don't even have to classify it if you even talk about it you might write a physics paper about it that leads to it they can just nope that has to be classified sorry that's gone and i think that they underestimated how powerful that secrecy would be. Because once you take away the proof and nobody can show proof anymore, now all the debunkers,

skeptics of the world, you know, they're having a field day with it. And that's the world we're at now. So who has this? The people that know are very few. Like with respect to MH370, the director of national intelligence and the CIA directors, they know for sure. In some cases, the defense intelligence agency director doesn't even know. which is interesting because in 2013, the Defense Intelligence Agency Director was General Flynn.

And he's been following me on Twitter for the last year. In fact, he was asked about MH370 regarding the technology and my name. And his response was, and basically someone said, this guy, Ashton Forbes is saying we have this advanced technology. And he goes, yeah, it would blow your mind as a response as well. So those type of people know the various people who are like the heads of these companies generally because they talk to some of these people. But the way that you get in is you know the engineers, the guys that are actually building it. And with the defense contractors, they don't hire physicists just to explain the stuff they've already found. They don't hire physicists to be like, tell me what we can produce.

No. They just have the engineers produce stuff. And they're like, we just created magic. We need a physicist to come in here and explain how we just created magic. because temporary physics says that's not possible. So some of those people, and then here's another curveball throughout you. In some cases, it's just like relatively mid-level people that just got exposed to it. Like it almost is like when you just flip a switch where it's like, well, you were working on this program where we were soliciting weapon contracts and you just happened to find out that we purchased like a scalar directed energy weapon or something like that.

And it can't be explained conventionally. So now you just know. So where's the oversight, though? I mean, is there oversight in this? No, there's no oversight. There's no accountability. The reason why we're failing to pass any of these budgets are these audits in our budgets and like trillions of dollars are missing. I think the number is $70 to $80 billion of classified money every single year going to the military defense contractors.

And it's like the dark night where a joker says, you know what it is all about guns and bombs? or whatever that I love, it's that they're cheap, you know, and he burns all the money. But producing this technology and stuff is actually cheap relative to, you know, paying consulting fees for other work. So, defense contractors have it. And again, because it touches energy, this is the real rub. This is how they've really been able to keep it secret. Is that because it's plasma-based and that actually is cold fusion, it proves that.

that we don't need these temperatures. They're like the temperatures of the sun to have fusion begin to occur. Once we can access negative energy. And the sea of energy around us is negative. It's just normal energy, but it's in a negative energy state. And we can use that to cause cold fusion to occur. We can use that to pull the energy out. They've actually perfected cold fusion.

And we're sitting here building these Tokomak reactors. And there's people behind the scenes that already know exactly. how to do it even better than that, where we can just have this ball of energy that's magnetically confined. And it doesn't even need to have like all this metal stuff surrounding it or anything like that. And this is where the DOE steps in. And the DOE has clearances and authority over the president where they can just say, you're not going to find out about this.

Yeah, I've heard about that. That's the national security risk. Yeah, Department of Energy has had a large stake in control and power in the United States a lot more than most people realize. But we've done a podcast with Ashton about Antarctica, for example. And we feel like there's a lot of things going on in Antarctica. Sorry, Antarctica. Do you think they're trying this stuff out there?

Yeah. I think this place you try it out is Diego Garcia. I mean, Diego Garcia is the sketchiest military base on the planet. And there's a lot of sketchy military bases. So it says a lot. But this thing's in the middle of Indian Ocean, middle of nowhere. There's no other landmasses nearby for 100. if not thousands of miles.

So that's the perfect place to test stuff out. Nobody's seeing anything that you're doing out there. It can't land commercial craft at it. In fact, the UK just gave up the rights to everything except for the military base in that area back to the indigenous people because we literally like wipe them off their own land and built this giant military base out there. So I think that's where they're hiding and testing this stuff. We had these refugees where been kept prisoner there for three years.

years because they washed ashore and we wouldn't let them leave. So what are you hiding that you're so desperately afraid that you don't want anybody to talk to these people? Yeah. But Antarctica, to me, it's all about the detection systems in Antarctica. You know, Eric Hecker was just on with Redacted again. And he's saying some really smart things, guys. Like I've spoken to Eric Hecker. He's, let's say a disciple of Tesla as well.

He knows that scalar weapons are possible. That's how he realized that there's something more going on. on there. A radar is not just a detection system. It's also a projection system because you're literally projecting electromagnetic waves at objects to figure out where they are. And then we found out with Bearden that if you take two waves that are in phase and are 180 degrees out of phase, meaning that they cancel each other out perfectly, which can be two that are going on one another or an equilateral triangle of beams targeting towards the center point, this produces, this doesn't leave nothing behind. This leaves behind something called the scalar potential.

Really, what you're doing there is you're sending a longitudinal wave through that ether of zero point energy. And that can be, that's like a gravitational ripple. So this could be applied also to weather control and manipulation, correct? Yeah, I just did a stream about it too. What do you think about weather control? And the answer is, yes, of course we can manipulate the weather. If you can beam energy through a scalar beam and you can create an interference pattern, like, let's say in the hurricane, you could pull energy out or you can actually extract energy to there. Now, that energy has to come to somewhere.

Either you have to take the energy and beam it there and make it appear or you would actually suck the energy out of there. And now you have this excess energy that you have to use or dissipate or, you know, you could have it just charge a battery, I suppose. But yeah, it's crazy to think that we could actually, in theory, and I don't want to get canceled here by the debunk people that hate the weatherman. manipulation stuff, but you could suck energy out of a storm or you could pump energy into it. Somebody, I won't name that because I don't want them to get attacked.

But let's say an engineer that I know and trust also said that we could definitely direct it. We could control the direction or at least manipulate the direction of a storm as well, which seems plausible. But to me, like, could you create a storm from scratch and perfectly control it? I don't say no to really anything, but it seems difficult, let's say. Yeah. Well, Ashton, you had posted something here. Free Energy is a national security issue. Lou Alessandro reveals the truth.

The zero point energy has been kept hidden because the gatekeepers believe we could destroy ourselves. Let me get to that clip real quick and then we'll get right. Let me preface it so that people understand the context. So Lou Alzano went on with Jesse Michael. I like Jesse Michael a lot. I've talked to him several times behind the scenes and about the, the risks of this technology, et cetera. So he spoke to Lou Al-Azondo, and Lou Al-Zondo has mostly been talking about aliens

as he's been going on these shows, mainstream shows and podcasts and stuff like that. But this time, Jesse asked him about the science and what they'd be hiding from there. And if you think about what he's about to say here in the context of what I've been discussing related to the Manhattan Project and us discovering zero point energy, I think you start to see through the veil. We're starting to see the guy on the other side of the curtain now. where like this is really, the real secret stuff is the science and technology. Okay.

Let's listen. Power unlock more than the destructive force. I think I'll save that when I'm not, when I'm not mic'd up. Yeah, no worry. Think of mass and energy as the same thing. So you need to get plank scale energy or something. A common theme here is we keep talking about the term national security. And I know you're here to interview me, but let me interview you just for a moment if I may, if you'll indulge me.

How do we, this is a sandbox here, right? Let's say there's a technology now, there's a toy that there's 12 kids in the sandbox, but there's only one toy, right? This toy has the ability to let everybody play together and be nice. The problem is human nature is such that most kids, most governments in this case, using it as an analogy, are going to want that. toy for themselves. How do we share the toy? How do we use this? Because we know there's countries out there that if they had a certain type of technology, they would probably employ it very quickly to their advantage. So countries will use technology if they feel that they have to in a time of conflict. The world is on fire. It doesn't matter what side of the argument you're on. I think we can all

agree that the world is a very dangerous and violent place right now. This technology has the chance to either bring us together or completely rip us apart once and for all, right? Like there's no coming back. How do you solve that problem? Who is going to take the moral high run and say, I give to you this technology and you shall use it for peaceful means? Who is that? The United Nations? I think it's high.

Is it society writ large? It's like the three-body problem. They know we're going to blow ourselves up, so they clamp down on the science. And they're responsible for a lot of the productive science in the past. Would humanity be over? okay with an overlord, an NHI babysitter? Is that freedom? Are you really free then? If an NHI were to come down and say, okay, folks, this is a reality. Ha, ha, ha. We've been kind of playing with you a little bit, but here's reality. You're all going to play well with each other. You're

all going to be able to enjoy this free energy and whatnot, but you're going to play by our rules. Now what happens? Now what happens to free will. All right, so Ashton, number one, I got two questions again, number one, why have, why has Lou Alizondo not set down with you, number one? And number two, what do you think about NHI? Because obviously Lou Alizando has been on this NHI non-human intelligence, you know, kind of road for quite a while. And is he a plant just to try to take away from the advanced technology the United States has?

I mean, what is your thoughts on those? Why has he not set down with you? And is NHI an actual thing? Yeah, and I've just concluded that, you know, he's definitely a plan. He's controlled. No doubt, no question whatsoever. You don't think James Clapper in your book that you release that talks about UFOs unless you're being controlled.

He's going out there and he's telling the narrative exactly what they want to tell in a way that protects national security. And then you have to ask yourself, what is that national security threat? Well, I think he just let it slip. You know, free energy. Free energy will completely wipe out our social security. economic way of life. And this is not a matter of the energy is actually zero, although there would be a major

cost reduction energy, which is huge. But we're talking about completely obsolete oil overnight. What happens to the Middle East? You know, what happens to all these companies that are energy-based? Do they flip? This is a huge amount of the world would just be completely different. We have to maybe even come up with new economic models to handle a situation where everybody but he has abundance.

So yes, I think he's out there. The reason why he doesn't talk to me is that, again, these guys are controlled. And also just to let people understand this, I have gone on probably over 100 podcasts over the last year on alternative media, very high demand for people who want to talk to me about some of this stuff because they appreciate my insights. Mainstream media has never once reached out. Yeah, it's crazy. Joe Rogan canceled my interview.

That doesn't happen with a lot of people either. And he literally said it was because of Jerry. Jeremy Corbell. Jeremy Corbell, George Knapp, they are in alignment with Lou Alizando. Like, their friends, these people are pushing a very specific narrative that the government has approved as long as they don't push on the free energy angle. Right. And can I ask you a question real quick? What is the difference?

And I'm just saying for people like me, what's the difference between free energy and zero point energy? Is there a difference? It's kind of like changing UFO to UAP. it comes down to, I call them UFOs because I hate that the government tried to manipulate that and change it to UAPs. It's like that with free energy. It's very important to understand that free energy is absolutely real.

A lot of the people, I wouldn't say most, there are some scammers for sure. But the historical people that you know of like the Teslas, the Stanley Myers, the John Bendini's, the Tom Beardons, these guys that were talking about free energy, they were talking about the real deal in physics. And what they mean is that we can access this unlimited. but its supply of energy, it's all around us. So free energy is really like solar energy, but we don't need the sunlight shining on it. It's just constantly pulling energy out.

You would say, wow, that is free energy, right? But no, it's not really free because you still have to build a device. You still need to buy the solar panels or whatever the case might be. And this has been known for probably since the time of Tesla, when he called it radiant energy. And Tesla, by the way, invented the power that we still use today, alternating current. So if you question him, you probably should take a look.

Now, I don't want to go too much sidetrack, but I think it's important to really understand that free energy is not, therefore, violate the laws of thermodynamics. The free energy that people say violates the law of thermodynamics would be producing something from nothing. But then you just ask those same people, well, where did all the mass and the energy come from? Where do you think the energy is coming from this power in your light? How do you think the universe expanded faster than the speed of light? What is dark energy?

And they can't answer any of these questions because there's something missing from this idea that space is just an empty vacuum. And the answer is it's not. So it doesn't violate the first law of thermodynamics because you're just pulling the energy out of the reservoir. It's not being created from nowhere. And the second law of thermodynamics is the same thing that applies to a windmill or solar panel.

Like by themselves, these things don't produce energy. That's true. But when you add the access input of the sun shining on it or the wind blowing through the turbine, now it can produce energy. Same thing with zero point energy. and usually, actually, I think in all cases, you manipulate electromagnetism to access to zero point energy. So free energy is 100% real. And the other question, when it comes to UFO is non-human intelligence, the first question you should ask yourself, and it's such a basic one, I don't know how people didn't ask this before.

But when you're looking at a UFO, and I'm holding up my phone here, an example, that's just hovering there for potentially hours or can make these hypersonic movements with zero inertia, where? is that energy coming from? Or if it's producing a wormhole and it's flying here from Alpha Centauri in a blink of an eye, the amount of energy, if anyone does the math on that, is this astronomical number. In the case of a wormhole, they believe the amount of mass energy is equivalent to like Jupiter. So where is it hiding all the mass? E equals MC squared. So you take the equation for the required amount of energy and you figure out how much mass

would need to be in there. And you end up coming up with this huge amount for the mass, but you can tell the objects just not that big. And there's no hidden, you know, jet tanks attached to it. And then you realize there is only one possible answer. It's pulling energy from the environment. So is it pulling solar? I don't see any solar panels on there.

The amount of solar wouldn't be enough either. No, it must be pulling from the zero point energy all around it. And if there are aliens, then presumably their material science has got to the point where they can produce metamaterials that are like the thickness of the element itself. So they can completely make like imagine like a crystalline structure out of any combination of elements they want, which have some exotic properties related to charges that allow for this craft to be able to do what we now maybe require a plasma to pull off. But at the end of the day, it's like surfing on the electromagnetic waves. So for me, the weird part is I used to be more on the like the first time we spoke. I was more like there must be aliens.

aliens must be visiting us somehow. We just haven't figured it out. And now more and more, I have no idea. But my top five is like advanced ancient breakaway civilization. Like there's another species of us on this planet that look close enough to us that we can't distinguish. And they have access to this crazy advanced technology. And maybe they are like our CEOs and political leaders, who knows. Plasma itself could be conscious.

I mean, what is consciousness? Yeah, seriously. Maybe it just requires like a permanent connection to this energy. Like we are constantly alive because we have this connection to this energy. Maybe plasmas like that as well. Well, and it goes to Stephen Greer, too, when they consciously can make these things come to them. According to Stephen Greer, yeah, for sure. I mean, the C-5 events where they go out and wherever and they, it's almost like a, I think it was Tim Bergen.

It's like, it might be like a seance type thing. doing over there to where they're getting demonic entities. But they can get people together and they can see the things that Chad and I have actually seen outside. Yeah. But Ashton, let me ask you this. So if let me ask you the theory of what most people believe of how maybe aliens or UFOs. I'm talking about aliens, not people.

I'm talking about aliens not from this earth or just things that are not human. If they have a craft and say that I guess the leading theory on these crafts from what mainstream media and podcasters and all of us talk about is that the only way these crafts can move from point A to point B instantaneously is by somehow manipulating our gravity with their own gravity field. Explain to me like I'm a four-year-old. Is that zero point energy? Is that or is that a whole different thing, concept?

Yeah. So the zero point energy field gives objects their masks. People might say, well, the Higgs field is supposedly does that, but the Higgs field can account for like 2% of the mass, even at best. The zero point energy is also producing what we know of as inertia. So when we're moving around, the resistance we feel, although it feels normal to us, we're feeling a measurable amount of resistance when we move around. So if you realize that the zero point energy is doing that, and you realize that, like with

scalar weapons, we can pull energy out of a location. Well, what would happen if I pull the energy out of a region in a bubble around someone in our space time. A, I would get some energy. B, I would expect it to cool down because I'm pulling the energy out of a region there. Three, there should be no mass or inertia. So whatever I just made that bubble around is now just going to flow freely. And then the last thing is that it potentially can cause faster than light travel and movement capabilities.

Because you reduce the mass to zero, now if you look at the Einstein's equations, you would see that it takes an almost infinitely small amount of mass or energy to then push that object to the speed of light. But really what you think you're doing there is you're cheating the universe. What you're doing is

all points in space and time are really connected. We just don't perceive it. And what that means is that you've changed the permittivity in that region, so the speed of light increases in that region. And now you create, because of relativity, you create this odd situation

where you're literally going to teleport from one location to the next from the outside perspective. But if you were in that region and your energy just goes away right there and you've somehow been entangled to another region, it's going to seem instantaneous to you. So the science behind this, by the way, is far advanced because not only if this is our technology, we have to understand how to be able to do that, number one, but also how do we control it. Now, obviously, you're not going to put someone in a cockpit of a freaking or UFO. Well, I'm just wondering if we could be like back to the future again. Yeah, exactly.

Can we teleport people? Yeah, but how do you? I can think of a few people I'd like to teleport away. Yeah, exactly. But how do you figure out how to control it? Like, like, for example, you just said you would be moving potentially at light speed. And obviously at light speed could put you 10 years in the future or, I mean, you just don't know. But how do you figure out how to control that?

Yeah. And this is part of the reason why. it makes sense to use plasma without somebody inside of a craft. Like going back to the whole thing of the hypersonic spy planes. It's like, why did we stop? Do we fly hypersonic spy planes around anymore? Is it just balls a plasma? Right.

Because you're also manipulating time. If you are bending space time, manipulating gravity, you're changing the rate of time as well. And just like I said, that's why I gave that example where, like, for the person going through, it might seem like you're instantaneously appearing on the other side. But for the people watching, like, it looks like you've just traveled fast from the speed of light. And to your thing about the time dilation as well is that there could be a time dilation effect. The truth is, unless we experiment and see with firsthand, we're not going to know exactly how the

time travel stuff plays out. But it does, you know, it would be interesting. I think we'll find out the answer to that in our lifetimes. My opinion is that time dilation is probably the universal correction mechanism that prevents causality from being violated, which means that you can never go back in time, so to speak. Instead, what you can do is you can just reverse the state of a system so you could reverse age yourself potentially with time travel, but you couldn't go back to the 1950s, you know, changing your local region. But the question you asked about like, how do they do this?

That's the biggest question that I asked is that after I found all this, science was real, related to my investigation, MH370, talking to engineers, finding the dirds, which the defense intelligence research document or reference documents are probably some of the most important scientific papers ever, I'm realizing. I just came across another one that spiked my interest. All of these people are connected to Hal Pood off because he's the one that issued all these papers. A lot of these guys are connected to people that were in the Manhattan Project or they were connected to it themselves. All of them, as far as I can tell, so far, I've worked in black projects. So these are guys that they're not working off the theory. They literally have

seen the stuff. And then they're like, here's the scientific paper. and theories that show exactly how the universe really works. And in some of them, one of them's called extracting energy from the quantum vacuum. And it's written by Eric Davis and Hal Pudoff. And it just explains the theoretical concepts on how to pull it out. Now, it doesn't say exactly, here's how you make the device, because if it did that, it would probably be classified. But it gives you enough where if you're smart, you can find it.

But one example on the energy is Casimir Cavities. I plan to steal this patent after it expires in two years. Garrett Modell and Bernard Hache are the patent authors for Bernard Hage, worked with Lockheed Martin, Black Projects, Garrett Models, Professor Emeritus at University of Colorado. And what they figured out is if you really just boil this principle, this sea of energy, how can we manipulate the sea and energy interact with it? They basically said, treat it like a trampoline,

where we can jump on the trampoline and shoot higher than where we originally jump. and we can extract that energy and then the trampoline automatically resets. So the next time we hit it again, we can just do it again. Trampoline resets. And they do this with something called a Casimir cavity where they create a stress state on the zero point fluctuations, which if you really boil it down,

manipulates the orbital of the electron around the atom, pulls a little bit of the energy out, and then we can use that energy. And then you go to a cavity area, just the blank area. And the blank area, when the atom goes through the blank area, it regains the energy back again. And this is what we can get away from this issue

where everybody says, well, the Casimir force allows you to pull energy out of zero point fluctuations, but you have to reset the plates when you put these plates next to each other. They come together. You can use that to do work. But they all say, oh, you can't, this isn't a perpetual motion because you can't undo the plates. We don't have to.

The ocean of energy automatically does that for us. So these guys figured that out. Another example, because I'm just going to riff on this for a second, is what I would call a dark energy laser or a negative energy laser. They figured that you could figure out you can squeeze the light and then the wavelength, the transverse wave of the light, part of it goes into the negative. And they figured out how to isolate that portion of the wavelength. And this can then just produce a straight up negative energy laser where if you're

beaming this, imagine like what it's doing is you're at a concert filled with people and it's just making a path in those people. That's pretty much what this is doing because it was. would be pushing out certain zero point energy wavelengths from that region. And when you're doing that, it's like building a Faraday cage or the zero point fluctuations in that area. Yeah, that's very interesting. And I hate to even get to this next clip.

Wait, no, I want to ask one more time, what is the difference between dark energy and negative energy? They're one and the same. Yeah, and this is why it's so important to, like, talk to people and understand these terms because the only way we're going to get access is government's never going to admit this stuff because they've just committed too many crimes along with this stuff. But we have to learn for ourselves. And the physics is not that complicated.

That's the crazy part is that like there's only a few things you need to understand. Dark energy is this sea of energy that Dirac called the sea of energy that he said was negative energy states. But isn't that a volatile? Dark energy. Isn't dark energy a already volatile state? to where, you know, I guess from some scientists reports this, a volatile state, but you got to know how to harness or control that energy.

Just imagine you had like a cup of water and you pour it on the ground and it starts to spread out along the ground everywhere. Imagine that's our space time. And the couple water is the zero point energy that's been poured onto it. And then so the dark energy is giving our universe its form, its shape, its structure. and so it's not necessarily an exotic substance. Even all energy we use, even the lights behind me right here, everything is coming from this state.

And it's almost like the water cycle where we pull it from that state and it gets back to that state. And every time you pull some of the energy out, it all comes rushing back in on top again. Yeah. And that's kind of how wormholes are kind of formed, I guess, maybe. Yeah. So with the wormhole, A wormhole requires negative energy.

And as I was saying before, negative energy is really the secret to allowing some of these physics concepts to occur that we would otherwise think would take this huge amount of normal energy. I actually just last night found this clip that explained the wormhole. I don't know. I have to pull up the sign to the guy, the name of the paper, but it basically says one can directly see that the effects of mass M is the opposite to the sign of the charge. charge acts oppositely to gravity. What happens is as the radial coordinate R comes increasingly close to zero, meaning as the distance between two or more objects converges, the energy density of the electric field outside that radius becomes much larger,

and hence the mass interior on that radius is smaller equal to the square of the electric potential, saying that you're reducing the mass inside of this spherical area and increasing the energy on the outside. And then it says at a certain distance, as this distance is collapsing, the time and radial components of gravity swap from greater to lesser, giving gravity a reverse to that of negative mass. So I'm bringing this back to the MH370 videos, which some people think out there are fake,

but they're absolutely real. You can literally see this negative energy zone get formed when these orbs are converging on one another exactly as that paper about negative energy explains how it would occur. Is that it's, and according to Salvatore Pius, it's breaking something called the swinging limit where these electromagnetic densities get so powerful, it's pushing out all that zero point energy. It's pushing all of it out of there in a zone.

Imagine taking a rock and throwing it in the ocean. And then where the rock hits right after, you see this negative zone right there. It's the exact same concept. Yeah. And so imagine you were on the surface. surface and the rock hits your area, but there's no rock. Now you're obviously going to get sucked right down into the water, right?

Same idea with this, uh, with a wormhole. Hmm. That's very interesting. And I, I hate to even take us away from this, but it's not really taking us away. We are going to go to Joe Rogan and Schellenberger for a second. And asian, basically you had quoted the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convinced in the world he didn't exist.

I think that's a great quote. And I think it's true, too, because what you're kind of saying is we got to convince the people that what our advanced technology is don't exist, right? It's almost like they want you to believe in aliens so much because they're saying, hey, look here. Look here, guys. We have aliens. We promise you it's aliens. We don't have the technology, but it's all aliens. We don't have this.

And it goes back to what you said earlier, I believe. It's like, you know, if you are a wartime war game scenario where if you're powerful, you do not let your enemy. you are and vice versa. You know, when he went into the whatever. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. And it's, it's, um, six generational warfare as well we're at right now as well, where the,

the plane field is no longer just tanks and planes and satellites and psychological operations. We're now at a situation where we're messing with space and time. Mm-hmm. These types of weapons are, you know, um, zero day, uh, exploitive weapons, which means once you show this weapon, like, everybody's going to be reverse engineering because it's just so far beyond the paradigm. So you want to keep that secret. And this is why we still produce obsolete technology,

because we have to give this illusion. Like, that's all we have. Yeah, well, they all want this toy. You know, they all want the toy. The 12 people, they all want the toy. That's true. That's why I wanted to play that clip with Lou Elando, because, like, that analogy, that's the first time.

Like, I don't think he's a dishonest guy. I just think he's a literal counterintelligence operative. They've been told not to talk about this stuff because truthfully, I question whether or not should talk about it. Like, I'm an American. I want us to have these zero-day weapons that can just zap things out of the sky and teleport them from one location to the other.

But at the same time, I want free energy. Like, we can just change this whole planet. We could live forever. You know, we can travel to the stars if we want. Like, locking that up is a crime against humanity, man. Yeah. And by the way, to exactly what Ashton just said, this is what the clip we're going to play with Schellenberger and Joe Rogan.

And they talk about this. and let's listen. A bunch of things that are absolutely provably untrue that could eventually be proved is untrue. I wanted to spread misinformation or disinformation. If I was an intelligence agent, I think I would get someone to be a whistleblower. I would sanction whistleblowers.

I would tell them go on podcasts, go on radio shows, go on television, and discuss all these different disclosures. And you can't tell them. You know, top secret stuff, you know, some stuff you got to keep your secret. Boy, I wish I could tell you, but there's more. I can't tell you. There's a lot going on.

And that's a really good way, I would think, if I was in control of a narrative that I wanted to be continuously slippery. Like, this is a very slippery conversation. Like, you never get to the end of it. And what would be the motivation? Because there's some sort of a program that exists that they want to hide. And the best way to hide it is to. to continually bring up and then debunk these fake programs for crash sites, for dealing with aliens. I would make a bunch of things that are absolutely provably untrue that could eventually be proved

as untrue, attribute them to these people and then have everything else that get said about the subject get reduced to nonsense. There you go. And so that is exactly what we've been essentially talking about, Ashton. I mean, it's, you know. And that's what's amazing to me, guys. I want to tell everybody that's listening. And by the way, we've been doing really good on numbers lately.

So you all listen right now. The fact that Ashton has not been on Joe Rogan is mind blowing. And it kind of even goes back to, you know, how for a while Joe Rogan is like, oh, we're not going to have Donald Trump on on because we're just, I'm not going to get political. I'm not going to this. Well, he's with RFK. But listen, if you're a podcaster and you're trying to figure out the things that Joe Rogan has talked about extensively and all the stuff. He is investigated and all the stuff he's dove deep into with COVID and Peter McCullough and almost getting himself canceled and Peter McColle and everybody else. We've had Peter McColl on this show many times.

And how do you not with all the stuff that you talk about, especially, especially when you have Schellenberger on, especially when you have people like Bob Lazar and Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp and everybody else? you don't have Ashenon, which has done, in my opinion, extensive, crazy type of research. I don't understand that. And in, you know, I'm not saying this is the case, but is, well, I think we've already said. Jeremy Corbell was like, oh, don't have Ashton on. Hey, he's an idiot, you know. Yeah. Well, no, Ashton is too smart to me.

No, listen, I think, I think that Joe doesn't want to have Ashenon or people have told him not to have Ashenon because that's when a lot of it kind of gets blown up. and a lot of people start realizing, oh, shit. Like maybe this whole UFO thing is not necessarily what we thought it was. Yeah. Yeah. Or they just realized like, oh, shit. Like there's a chance we're actually literally hiding free energy and that every time somebody tells me it violates the laws of thermodynamics.

That's all just a big sci-op. Yeah. Like a lot of people are going to wake up if I go John Joe Rogan. And that's for sure the real reason why I haven't gone on there. because like I've now been on Candace Owens. The Hodge Twins podcast is going to drop probably, you know, in the next couple of weeks here. So depending on when this airs, people want to take a lookout for that where I talk about a lot of this physics as well. Because when you listen to this stuff, you can tell that I've just researched this.

It's not a matter of, you know, me trying to tell people to believe in certain things. It's just, it turns out all this science is already out there. And yeah, it's just a matter of time before it gets exposed. So that's why people ask me like, oh, you know, build some kind of device or do something like that. Or if you don't tell everything you know, you know, you're going to get disappeared or whatever. But I think they realize that it's coming out. And they need to get ahead of the narrative because even if I weren't doing this or the other people that have been working really hard, including shout out to MH370X. We have a massive discord of people that are researching some of this stuff.

and it's just super fun. We're making science cool again. Even if I wasn't doing this, though, AI is going to figure this out. Like in the next few years. I even, when I look up some of these scientific papers and some of the stuff I don't understand,

I use AI, it's ridiculous how much answers it can give you. And talking about that real quick, Ashton, go ahead. I want to ask you, because I know you got to go because you have a live thing.

I want to ask you just one question. Do you think we have motherships or do you think they're from outer space? that's the one question. I guess the bigger question is like, do you think we have a secret space program? That's the thing people throw out there a lot, SSP. And it's something I'm actually really interested in because, fun story, Candice was really working me hard to get me to believe that we didn't land on the moon,

which I'll say I wasn't moon landing. I don't believe it. But I'm agnostic on like everything nowadays, you know, I have to see a plane disappearing and teleported. but it does make me wonder why we never went back at a bare minimum. You know, like, why are we not been going back? And if you realize, wow, we can actually teleport objects with some balls of plasma, you start to realize that sending somebody up is a liability to send somebody to the moon

where, especially if we're using obsolete technology and in the future it gets found out that we are. and it's expensive to produce some of those rockets. And if it's all obsolete, why would we waste our time doing it? And it's kind of the same thing with the plasma worms where there's nobody inside of. It's just drone. It's like we don't need to send people up to the moon anymore. So that I think has some weight to it. But when it comes to the UFO stuff, like I said before, like the more I learned about the science,

the more I realize that human ingenuity and capability is so much more beyond where I thought it was. that I just leave everything open. I guess my favorite theory is maybe there's something in the oceans. That's, you know, we don't really know much about the oceans. Bermuda Triangle is kind of a fun, you know.

Yeah. And Ashton, let me ask you. I want to get to this Alex Jones thing, but I know you got a live stream. Do you want to, do you want to comment on some of this Alex Jones thing before you go? I can keep going.

I got, I got a voice. Alex Jones, man, I made this post by Alex Jones saying like, I used to think he was a crazy guy. And now it's like everything he says is inevitable. It's like, okay, man, human chimera hybrids.

You know what? Sure, why not? The clone people, whatever. Some guy just got arrested and thrown in jail for cloning some kind of goat and then hybridizing that. So it's like, okay, well, if we're to that point, maybe. Yeah. I wasn't sure what he was going to say on this clip. And it surprised me that he definitely seems to see this sciop of this alien thing,

which doesn't mean that aliens don't exist, just means that, like, they're using it to distract. Like, you have your keys jiggling. You look over here at the aliens. End of the day, guys, like, aliens exist. Okay, boom, there. It's done. It's said. Like, it's 2024.

It's not the 90s anymore. It's not saying aliens exist isn't something taboo, right? So it's like, that's not, that's a distraction. Oh, aliens. How does that change in my life? I'm still going to work tomorrow. Still got to pay the rent. Still got to pay my super high inflation groceries every single month.

Most aliens are helping me out with that. I'm not interested. And you realize, same thing with the floaty UFO. It's all about the energy source. That's what's going to change our entire world. And I know if Jones mentions it. What if the aliens are the police of our forces, right? I mean, have you ever thought about us?

Like, the fact that we could have this much force and technology, what if aliens are the ones that are keeping us in check right now? That's one of the scarier hypotheses for me. I used to call it early on last year, before I learned about, the technology. It's called the Gurin Logon hypothesis for my anime followers out there, which is this idea that we're on like a prison planet. And the moment we achieve a certain level of technological threat, the people are, our captors just teleport in and just wipe us out with super advanced technology and reset us back to back to zero again. That's probably number three

on my list of NIHs. That's, that one scares me. It keeps me up a little bit. We know we've had resets in history, and especially you look at Graham Hancock and Robert Schock's work and all this stuff about, you know, ancient civilizations, recycling. Yeah, for sure. Let's get into Alex Jones and see the craziness that he is about to spill. Not craziness. A lot of what Alex Jones says is very true. And I think, but I think the name Alex Jones has been, I guess, synonymous with people

that believe in, you know, oh my God, these conspiracy theorists are crazy. But Alex Jones has been right about a lot. Let's hear what he has to say about the recent events. Here you go. Big flying Vs are space planes and nuclear weapon and SABO meteor gun platforms. These other pod and flying saucer craft have got some type of anti-gravity propulsion system. And what we know is the Pentagon is purposely leaking information and implying that it's alien to create fear. And we've gotten some of the leaks on this that the UN and Henry Kissinger planned

to have a fake alien invasion at some point to unify the planet under their control. And so obviously if you're the breakaway civilization with all this advanced technology that's really the equivalent of the year 2050 or beyond, you don't show people the human animal chimera clones they admit they've got.

You don't show people that you've got all this weather control with their own documents admit they have. You don't show people you've got any matter weapons that can blow up the whole solar system. You don't show people people, all these new free energy propulsion systems they've got, and then you start harassing aircraft and ships with the drones and saying they're aliens, but then you can look at them and then from the leaks we have,

know that they're actually man-made controlled by the United States and the UK, the only two countries that actually are in the club and have this stuff that we know of. Then you've got to ask how the United States actually got all this and created the microchip and the transistor before that when nobody else did and where are they getting the knowledge? And then I don't know. Some say aliens interdimensionally, you know, gave them the codes. People think of an alien traveling here

and so they can just send the message via a radio telescope message, like the movie in the 90s species where the radio telescope picks up a code of DNA. They put it in an egg and plant it in a woman. Looks like a humanoid. It's actually an alien. That's an example of from the intel I've got how they're getting it. A lot of phenomenon that if you understand that phenomenon, it's a gateway, a keyhole into a larger understanding. And this is one of those stories, and it's a long story.

But for 30 plus years, there have been unidentified flying aircraft that will approach fighter jets, approach drones, approach commercial airliners, and will. do maneuvers and make 90-degree turns that no known technology can do. And there's the big flying Vs that show up above the nuclear weapons bases and the ships that have the drones come in and flying around them. Now you've got classic drones that are loud with propellers, big ones, some of them 20 feet long,

showing up at the most secure U.S. military bases and buzzing the airfields and doing all this and then notice, even though it happens night after night, the military doesn't shoot them down. Well, what does that tell you? Look at that thing. That's an imperial probe droid. Just go back to that last one.

There's the military catching this robot flying around with no propulsion system they can see. and then it zips off at, you know, Mach 20. And they, these things disappear to the ocean, all the rest of it. You didn't start seeing these until after World War II. And from the research we've done that's overwhelming, these are man-made. The breakaway civilization has super advanced technologies.

They're suppressing. They admit that. The stealth bombers are from the 1960s. They still say the fastest plane ever made was in service in the late 50s, the SR-71 one blackbird got to pause here breakaway civilizations ashton what what do you believe about that just what alex jen just what alex jen just saying here and breakaway civilizations has been rising up the charts on the power rankings honestly it's it's at the top now for me i was highly skeptical as this thought before a year ago i would have said that's like number five on my list

i would have said you know etes are from the indromeda galaxy the ambassador bejew would have been up there but now because of the thing with the resets it does seem like that like I've watched all Graham Hancock stuff too and I've talked to a lot of these guys that have looked into ancient history. I was at the Cosmic Summit. The more I learned about it's like, man, it doesn't, our history does not go back far enough.

It feels like something is wrong when we look at our history and we see these things that have been built, which we can't explain given what we believe about the people at the time. Right. So that's one that I, yeah, I think that breakaway civilization and to me,

breakaway civilization counts as what I described before, which is like this. conglomerate of people that are in power at various big companies, usually contractors, and then certain people in positions of government as well that are in the know. And I think this also helps to explain like why we see the same, it seems like people get selected for power, political power. It's because these breakaway civilizations are these, this organization, this deep state, I like to call the covert administrative elite, they have access to all the money.

They control all the incentive structures. They can get. somebody a bunch of money and now they went office and now they own favors. And hey, you know, if you stay quiet, then we'll give you a free energy device so you can put in your bunker that you can go build. And then if everything goes to shit, you've still got power and nobody else does, right? Like stuff like that. That's how the real world operates.

And you see that. And then there's like lost technology that we should be way far advanced than we are right now according to the government. You know, you think about lost ancient civilizations and technology. Even a moon landing and all that stuff. But Ash and I, have you heard about Dums, which is also known as deep underground military bases? Have you heard about that? And what is your thoughts on that?

Yeah, I'd love to go in one one time. That's where Jake Chansley spoke a lot about the Dums in some of the spaces that we did who, by the way, I love that guy. I don't care if everybody hates them or thinks he's whatever. He's an awesome guy. But yeah, the Dums are interesting because why wouldn't we build bases underground? In fact, like what's that Diego Garcia? If you look at Diego Garcia on the satellite maps on Google, like there's no, it's like one level above ground. There's got to be more going on there.

And they've got all these dredging contracts, which implies they've got some underground facilities going on. So, yeah, I think there could be dums there and they could be testing the types of technologies that, you know, they don't want anybody to see in a pretty covert location. But with respect to the science that's lost from us, that I'm going to teach people to answer real quick. So not only is there this energy, zero point energy that's out there, it's at the plank scale, 10 to the minus 33, I believe it is, like the smallest possible. That's 33 zeros before you get to your first one after the period. The way we access this technology is by trying to get to the small scales. And how do we do that? Well, we produce microchips.

It's not a coincidence these microchips are getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. They can have up to like a billion transistors and semiconductors on these little switch on these little microchips that are as big as your nail. These are extremely tiny. And that's intentional because we want to take that effect. Like I spoke about the Casimir cavities with the trampoline. You want to interact at the smallest scale because that's how you get the most power. It seems a little bit counterintuitive, but the Casimir effect gets more and more powerful, the closer the plates get to one another. And so you want to interact with the smallest scales, and then you want to scale it up.

You make like an array out of those little tiny components on your microchip. And then you put it on a wafer. And now you've got a little wafer at the end of the day, size of a quarter, that it can just produce free energy, cohere free energy straight out of the environment or made a gravitational wave or you can use it for other purposes as well, like communications, whatever you need. That's the secret to this stuff. This is why, you know, just to round it back out to my main investigation,

I made sure you 7-0, this is why those semiconductor scientists are the motive, 20 of them on board the plane. They had just come out with a microchip that was like three millimeters, like by three millimeters or something like this. So like extremely tiny. And, you know, if you've got this technology, you can't risk anybody else having it. Because like Louis Al-Zano said,

if two people in the sandbox have it. Right. You've created a conflict. Now, somebody, it's like who is going to press the button first, you know? Yeah. And so this is why potentially what's going on is that the United States or the people that we are in this, creating this breakaway civilization with, the other countries and stuff, we're just preventing anybody else from having it.

Right. Whether that means we have to discredit them, we have to push them off the science, or we just have to literally disappear a civilian airliner and lie to the world about it, whatever it takes. Right. I imagine they're just trying to play out the clock, too, where like they, like Jesse Michael said on that same interview, like they know we're going to destroy ourselves. So they're just trying to delay it as long as possible. Yeah.

And I think we are probably. Well, it's the same thing with there was a plane that we're, I don't know if they're German or what, but there was a bunch of people that had cancer research that they could cure cancer. Yeah. And it was Brazil. Yeah. Brazil. There was like sick, but they didn't save that plane.

That plane went down. I think it was in Brazil. I don't think it's about saving it. I think is about taking it down. Possibly. That could very well be the case. But Ashton, you had mentioned to, I know you got a stream coming up here soon. We could play the rest of this clip, but I think it would probably take a little bit too long.

You had talked earlier about what is kind of your path forward now, your transgression from MH370. And you were talking about you want to, are you trying to study physics and all that? Or what is your plan going forward? Well, yeah. first of all, whenever I get on an airplane, I was asking, had there any semiconductor or AIDS researchers on this plane? Just want to check, if so, maybe I'll get the next one. Because it certainly seems like those are the planes that disappear, right?

So real quick on the Alex Jones stuff, though, it wasn't it weird? He mentioned the movie species, not the movie Contact. I was thinking of the movie Contact. When he was talking about signals from another alien species or whatever, but either way, both pretty scary, to be honest with you, in terms of what might be going on with beans from another. system.

But he also mentioned the idea that like an anti-matter weapon that could destroy the whole solar system. It wouldn't necessarily be anti-matter, but sure, maybe. I mean, anti-matter, I think it's on the same kind of lines as negative energy. I don't know what it would take to make antimatter in general, but negative energy allows those same effects in terms of destroying an entire solar system, creating a black hole, things like that. And he also mentioned free energy propulsion, which that is really that same idea that I

talking about. I was like, well, how is the UFO flying? Well, it's using a free energy device. It's coherent energy out of the environment all around it. And there must be a huge amount because to pull that off, it would take a massive amount. And then he also mentioned the idea that it's like technology from 2050. Now, this is really weird because when Hal Pudoff talks about the dirds, the scientific papers I've been mentioning, he said the direction for those people, those black project engineers, was to try to imagine what the world would look like at 2050.

And I go, wow. Like if you guys are out there, if you are in at all scientifically inclined, check, you should already be Googling the dirds. There's 38 papers. They were commissioned by the Defense Intelligence Agency. Sorry? DERDS. D-I-R-D-S.

Defense Intelligence reference documents. They're commissioned by the Defense Intelligence Agency to Hal Poodoff. And he knows like all the engineers. So you got the smartest dudes who worked in black projects to write those papers. And the concepts there are next level. They're like 2050 stuff. But then you realize these guys are writing these papers because they've seen this stuff in the labs. Like maybe not the end product, but they've seen the effects.

Right. So they're writing for a position of intelligence. And this then loops back around to your question about what's your path? Like I made this post last night where I was reading this one by Winterberg. and he he was a disciple of Werner Heisenberg, which is the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, like basically one of the fathers of quantum mechanics.

And I'm reading it and I understand like every word now just from how much I've been researching the science around the Orbs and MH370 videos. And it just dawned on me that, you know, I put so much effort into this and anybody out there can that if you've seen the answers, and you've seen this whole other half of physics that explains everything that conventional physics doesn't understand right now and that it's all these highly credible black project engineers

talking about it you can just skip ahead of the rest of the pack you know like you're already better than like 75% of the people science is sold out long ago as everybody from COVID knows and I realize I'm going to hop, you know, leapfrog over a lot of these people and pretty soon in five to ten years from now when some of these people that are in their 80s and 90s aren't with us anymore tragically you know they're legends or died on an airplane crash Lord yeah mysterious airplane crashes

or disappearances that they happen it's normal guys it's normal you know there's going to be a new crop that's coming up in the game and I realize like I'm you should be stopping me it's just a matter of learning you know learning yeah the thing I would say about the scientific papers too a lot of people don't realize this

and it's sad but nobody reads any scientific papers, like, at all. In some cases, people are embarrassed because they don't understand some of the terms. Well, here's a spoiler. Nobody understands some of the terms. Right. It seems like they intentionally write them in some cases in ways you can't understand. But with AI now, it's pretty quick to just, okay, I'm going to look up to Lawrence and figure out what was this all about, right?

So, yeah, if you learn the history and the scientists, there's not that many of them and you constantly see them reference. And once you've seen the answer, once you've seen an end of the, thermic events, an absorption of energy in high-quality military footage, you go, oh, shit, this whole thing, science, all this stuff these engineers are talking about, it's all real. So really what I want to do is I want to be a physicist. I want to be an engineer. But I want Americans to want to be physicists and engineers.

Right. Like I want to influence the Nick Fuentes of the world. Love or hate this guy. He's got a following that. that loves and adores him. And he's saying controversial things that offend a lot of people. Yeah. But we need dissent.

We need to have an ability where we can speak freely and inspire a new crop of people. Right. And I imagine, like, if you could pull him away from his rant of the stuff that he currently hates, the social issues that he hates. And he pushed him and his following towards electroengineering and the works of Tesla. we we could be living in a paradise we could be living in a utopia yeah you know in the next generation and as you make a good point too and i want everybody understand that like whereas you may not be a freaking genius out there right now AI is technically right now a genius now how long

will that last because you know ash and i have to have be a genius in order to ask the right questions no no not necessarily you need these baselines of what you need to be looking for and how you need to be looking for those things and the scientific papers. And, you know, if you can utilize AI right now to explain things to you, like you're a fifth grader or a sixth grader, it will help you understand the concepts behind a lot of what Ashton's saying, a lot of what all these scientists have written papers on that you have never been able to understand, just like Ashton said.

But I would say to do that fairly soon because we don't know where AI goes. It is now being released to the public. And I believe the government has had AI for quite some time. But at the very least, we don't know how in the future it'll be manipulated. We already know Google AI is heavily manipulated. A lot of these platforms like, you know, Facebook has AI now and so does Instagram and all this. But, you know, chat, GBT and some of these other ones, they're not so manipulated at this point. They are in some ways.

They're already politically manipulated. Yeah, they are for sure. But as far as these scientific papers, guys, go and start trying to research this stuff. start diving into the same things to Ashton is. Ashton's not saying, hey, I want to be the only person out here doing this. He's literally calling on other people to research and understand and try to figure out, yes. Try to figure out this stuff for yourselves and you can contribute yourself to the cause and to figuring out what is actually going on. Is it UFOs?

Is it whatever? Because the government, if you're waiting on the government to tell you what it is that's happening, you might as well, you know, you're never going to know. it is up to us to be to be game changers it's up to us to be path path blazers is that the trailblazers i guess you can say and i think ashton by the way i think you're a trailblazer i think that you're going to go down in history regardless and however you came and stumbled on the m h370 thing i think that you stumbled on that for a reason i think i always say that everyone is put in positions for a reason i think that you are specifically putting to this to make changes and to make new waves. And very proud of you, man.

Yeah, absolutely. It's so cool because you were, I think we were your first podcast and just where you've went from there is insane. And we're very proud of the work you've done and we're never not going to have your side. So. Yeah. And we're not going to totally always understand what you're saying either.

No. Well, that's why you have me on. And I'll just be your, you know, liaison into the world of physics and then electrical engineering and your correspondent for some of the UFO stuff as much as you'll have me. So a big shout out to you guys, listeners out there, especially early on, that helped me out. Never expected that we would be in a position that we're in now in terms of disclosing this. And I really say we because I wouldn't be here without everybody else who's been pushing including you guys. Ashton, let everybody know where, let everybody know, by the way.

quickly where they can find you and by the way you're about to go to a live stream right now on your ex and i love your live streams and every once in a while ashton will dance for you at the end the live stream which i i believe is the greatest part of the live stream but let everybody know where they can find you and he has to have his little drink what is it called the well he got a dirty martini yeah you're dirty martini yeah i haven't had one a little while i just yeah i don't know i want to be a good influence online but you know it's hard when it's like you're talking about some pretty heavy, heavy topics here. Yeah. My YouTube live streams three times a week,

Malaysian Airlines Monday, Secret Science Wednesday, Free Energy Friday. Some always fun topics. Stuff that you really aren't going to see out there anywhere else on the internet. And at JustX Ashton, predominantly on X, if you want to interact with me, but also I'm out there on Instagram and TikTok now. I've actually made a few TikTok videos if you can believe it. And I actually plan on doing some more small TikTok videos that explain the science and the physics out there for people.

Awesome. Well, Ashton, thank you so much for coming on. We're going to play the rest of Alex Jones clip. I know you got to go, but thank you so very much. And guys, go follow Just X. Ashton on X and on YouTube and all the other platforms. We love you very, very, very, very much. And we cannot wait until what we see you have coming up in the future.

Thanks, man. See you. All right, guys. That was Ashton Forbes. Please go follow and check out Ashton Forbes. great guy. We work his first podcast, which is cool. I know.

It's so crazy. He's on everything. He absolutely is. Makes me feel special. I want to get to, for those that are still listening, I want to get to the rest of the Alex Jones piece because there's some funny parts in this, I guess, as he's talking through this. And then we'll end this after to Alex Jones piece. Let's listen to some more of this. Here you go.

The pilots wear space suits when they fly them. It goes up to the edge of space. It's a space plane. It's like a model T. compared to the newest Tesla today. But they tell you the Model T is the fastest, best, newest car in the world. That's the equivalent. So here's what we know.

The big flying Vs are space planes and nuclear weapon and SABO meteor gun platforms. These other pod and flying saucer craft have got some type of anti-gravity propulsion system. and what we know is the Pentagon is purposely leaking information and implying that it's alien to create fear and we've gotten some of the leaks on this that the UN and Henry Kissinger planned to have a fake alien invasion at some point to unify the planet

under their control and so obviously if you're the breakaway civilization with all this advanced technology that's really the equivalent of the year 2050 or beyond you don't show people the human animal, chimera clones, they admit they've got.

You don't show people that you've got all this weather control with their own documents admit they have. You don't show people you've got to any matter weapons that can blow up

the whole solar system. You don't show people all these new free energy propulsion systems they've got. And then you start harassing aircraft and ships with the drones and saying they're aliens,

but then you can look at them and then from the leaks we have know that they're actually man-made controlled by the United States and the UK. The only two countries that actually are in the club and have the stuff that we know of. Then you've got to ask how the United States actually got all this and created the microchip

and the transistor before that when nobody else did and where are they getting the knowledge. And then I don't know. Some say aliens interdimensionally, you know, gave them the codes. People think of an alien traveling here and so they can just send the message via a radio telescope message like the movie in the 90s species where the radio telescope people, picks up a code of DNA. They put it in an egg and plant it in a woman. Looks like a humanoid.

It's actually an alien. That's an example of, from the intel I've got, how they're getting it. Radio telescopes, interdimensional communications. That's what they do on the DMT. I told you this before it was declassified on Joe Rogan eight years ago. One year later, they declassified that indeed the U.S. military and governments were doing DMT drips going back to the 60s, as I told you, the equivalent of interdimensional astronauts who are mapping this a communications. with these aliens who would tell them,

okay, bring me 20 kids, slit their throats, and I'll give you some technology. You go, that sounds crazy. Well, look at all the Aztecs would kill kids to be given knowledge by the gods. The Babylonians, the druids, it's always these creatures that want us to do bad things, go against our own species,

and they promise now, if you'll kill the majority of the humans and transcend and merge with Silicon, we will give you the advanced technology for life extension, but you have to become a new species and end all carbon-based life on Earth, which they're doing with the geoengineering getting rid of life on Earth. As we know it, there is a terraforming operation clearly for Satan and his entourage of creatures that is going on.

And notice when I talk about this, the media doesn't attack it. The system doesn't talk about it. I've been talking about this, and I knew about it decades ago, for at least 10 years, giving you the final pieces of the puzzle that's actually right there in the Bible. and notice the media never picks this up, never touches it. I have met with... I want to stop here on Alex Jones. Number one, he's talking about a fake alien invasion

is what the globalists want you to believe that potentially may be happening. And are they setting us up for this fake alien invasion to unite the world, to unite it in a globalist movement, in a one-world government to where someone on earth arises as the king, maybe potentially even the Antichrist, if you go back to biblical scripture, is the Antichrist going to be the savior in this fake alien invasion?

You got to think about that stuff because that is biblical. You know, if you know anything about the Bible guys and girls, God can appoint power. And he typically does. And for whatever reason, you may wonder why Biden was in office and Trump is in office. And with a documentary that we're going to highlight in the next few days with the documentary that we have been, you know, kind of doing interviews for and all this. stuff, and then we had Hurricane Leanne and no power and all this stuff, but we're trying to get all the doubt.

And one of the things is what the documentary talks about is, you know, whether or not you agree with everything Trump is about or who he is or whatever, maybe he is the right person. He was the right person in 2016. I guess for whatever reason, according to God, if you believe in that, in the scripture, that he wasn't necessarily the right person because of whatever has happened and leading up to where we're about to go and enter into this next. phase. Is Trump going to be that next phase? But as I say, God can appoint the power in the Kings. He did this back in Old Testament, where, you know, you are only at power on behest of me.

And if you believe that you are a God, then I will show you quickly that you are not. And they did this in Egypt. God did this in Egypt. And so just as quickly as he can appoint and make sure that people are put in power, he can destroy that power as well. And are we in a phase now to where we're about to see this power structure be completely destroyed by God? Now, sounds like I'm an evangelist preacher saying, oh, my God, God, God's going to come down and break down the system. But are these things that we're seeing?

Are these signs from the heavens that the Bible often talks about it? It says in the end times, you will start to see signs from the heavens. you will see these things in the sky to where you do not know the hour or the month or today, but you will know when the time is near. You will know when the end days are near. Are we in the end days? And are we in this time to where God is showing a sign saying, you know, I don't like what's going on in the world. I knew this was going to happen because I've talked about in the Bible.

I've prophesized about it. My disciples are prophesized just like they used to in the Old Testament and even in a New Testament to where they said. these things are to come to pass. But make no mistake that I will be with you as long as you trust me, right? That's what the Bible always says. But make no mistake, they will happen. And when they happen, just understand that I am still in control. And I will show you signs throughout that I am still in control.

And I believe that in this time that we are living in right now, there are more people that are awakening to the possibility of God and the possibility at the very least of good versus evil, unlike I've ever seen in my entire life. And I think that if you look at, even if you look at Biden, you say, this dude is seen now, I don't understand how this is happening. I don't understand why the world is burning. I don't understand why there is Ukraine and Russia conflict. I don't understand why there's a possibility of World War III.

I don't understand that Israel and Gaza conflict where there's civilians being mass murdered and also on the Israeli side on October 7th. and all this stuff. I don't understand any of this, but what I do understand is that God did prophesize us and say, this is going to happen. And when this happens, I'm going to make sure that you understand, I'm going to show you signs from the heavens.

I'm going to show you signs that although they believe they are all in full control, they have the technology, they have the advanced weapons, they have everything. They are not God. And that's what even the Roman kings, that's what the Egyptian kings, that's what many kings throughout history have always, always demonstrated is that they got so powerful that they believed they were God and then quickly they found out they were not. And so are we in that time right now in 2024 where we're

transitioning into a into another time where God's about to show very quickly that if whether or not you think you were in all control of this people that you think that you are in in total control of I'm about to show you're not and I'm about to show you who their God really is. and it's not the government, it's not Biden, it's not Trump, it's not any of these people. It is God. It is me. And so whereas you put your faith and you put your beliefs and you put your, your intentions and your everything in these political forces, I think maybe God is trying to get you right now

to look to him and not earthly beings for your belief system. So I just want to point it out. I don't know, whatever. Anyways, here's Alex Jones. I've met with top scientists. I've met with top tech people. I've met with the top people. They all know this.

They all understand it. They all accept it. And so we're being given advanced knowledge to be able to build things never before on this earth to build a terraforming operation that doesn't just change the atmosphere. It changes the very genetic makeup of the planet. They've been doing it covertly for a long time. And now they're doing it overtly through the self-replicating nanoshots being put in the population.

And so now imagine the Pentagon, and I told you this when this first broke last week, I said, watch, they'll announce it's happening to all the bases. Now in these articles, overhead shot, please. They're saying, oh, every military base has these drones showing up. And they call them UFOs, that just means unidentified flying object, but imply their aliens, though they admit they have propellers and they say they don't know who's sending it, as if they don't put up a helicopter or a jet and follow back where they're coming from. as if they don't shoot them down.

No, this is branches of the Pentagon and the deep state doing a sci-op on the military personnel who were told to stand down on the ships and the bases and in the air and then it creates this internal debate about what is it and then they have whistleblowers say it's aliens to create a belief in the military

that these are aliens when what it is is humans following a satanic off-world fallen angel entity plan to roll all of this out to at some point with the hologram projections they have that I told you about 30 years ago that they now use and do where you see a giant snake in the sky or Godzilla or whatever they want. You've got CERN opening interdimensional gates and a minute they could blow the planet up with it and doing giant satanic rituals with Batha Met and it's opening and they have movies about it like event horizon, decades before they actually do it to again lesser magic tell you what they're going to do.

before they then actually do it. So this is an interdimensional alien assault. That's how the higher dimensions these things operate. That's why the Bible says Satan goes up to heaven in the Old Testament and New Testament and talks to God and asks permission for things he wants to do here. And then Satan complains that God won't let him fully go after us. And then when humans do really bad things

and humans by free will agree to it, God will then remove the protection and let Satan do what he wants to a limited extent because God gave us free will, but God gave us a blueprint and a cheat sheet of the enemy operation. He gave them the enemy, he gave us the enemy battle plan, show that we would have a chance to make the right decision. That's exactly right. Alex Jones lays us out extensively.

Whereas, listen, there have been many UFO researchers and not just really, you know, UFO researchers, but also evangelists and people that know and study the Bible very extensively. Irvin Baxter, there's been so many others that have talked about this specifically. And whereas on this podcast, we have talked so much about the UFO UAP thing, there has been many big-time people that have reached out to us in the past and said, I just want you guys to know that what you're talking about is satanic. Well, I think that number one person that first came to us and said that was Bree within times. Yeah. Yeah, Bree. Yeah, Bree did.

And you used to debate with her about it. Well, yeah. I mean, I think your views have changed since then. I don't know. I don't know what my views still are. What I can tell you is that I do believe that God is in control right now. And so whereas no matter how you feel and how unsettled you feel, no matter what your situation is in life. And guys, I've got to be honest with you, our situation in life right now, although everything that you typically think would be a detriment or something you would wake up and be stressed about what most people stress about, what a lot of people stress about, whether there's money or how you're going to pay your bills or a job or all those things.

A lot of that's good for us, but there's just other things going on in our lives that is no matter what, no matter if you guys have always been. chasing money, right? You think money or you think your, how big your house is or your land or all these things, no matter how big and how great you think those things will be for you. If that's what you're chasing, just understand that when you get there, you're going to still have the same issues, but sometimes maybe even bigger issues. You're going to have issues that money or how big of a house you live in or whatever the case is cannot solve. And when the money and the things that you've been chasing your entire life cannot solve those things that hurt your heart and, and unsettle you and keep you up at night. And the first thing you think about in the morning, that's going to be a big rude awakening for you because you've chased the thing that you thought was going to make everything better forever.

And then when you finally somewhat get some of that and then you, and then you have bigger issues pop up and you're like, where do I go now? where do I go now? And I think that's what a lot of the world is feeling right now, even though even though it's kind of the opposite because the world has inflation, the world has wars, the world has governments that you're starting to realize that your government actually doesn't give a shit about you. It's kind of like if you have family and you think that you're all of a sudden, your family actually doesn't give a shit about you.

You feel like your family's turned on you. You feel like all these things. That's what a lot of people, even the strongest families feel like their government is doing to them. I know. And that's why I chase love from pets. I'm just saying. Yeah, but those pets. Their ultimate love. Yeah. But what I will say is that at the very least, whether you're godly or not, or you're a believer or whatever. And some of you probably listen right now are like, these must be Bible thumpers. I promise you. If you listen to our episodes and you listen

to our past podcast, you understand we're as probably more, we're probably more confused than you are asking us if we are, if we are Bible thumpers, we're not. All I'm saying is, is that I feel like that I have an urge and a need to get on the side of good, which is God and the side of, to get against evil. There's so much evil in the world right now. Yeah. And good is like animals too. Yeah.

But I also feel like good has to be fierce. I feel like, you know, so many people believe that if you're a Christian, number one, you have all these laws and rules and regulations. You're not allowed to do this and this and this according to the church. But the reality is if you go back to the Bible, number one, the Bible talks about your strength, your power, your influence, your fierceness. There was so many people in the Bible that had steadfast, I guess a fierce complex to get them through very troubling times. God doesn't want you to be weak. He doesn't want you to be a pushover. He doesn't want you to be any of those things, but he wants you to stand strong in his, in,

in who he is and in the fact that you're either a creationist, which is a God, or you are a evolutionist or a scientist. And if we've seen anything over the past at least four or five years. No, I think that combines now. You just listen to Ashton now. I think it's both. Yeah. Well, I mean, well, don't get me wrong.

There's definitely science there. But what I'm saying is science has always tried to disprove God. And that's been their biggest. But I don't think they're doing that right now. No, they are. Absolutely. A lot of people are not like, people like Ashton, I don't think are doing that. No, Ashton is not doing it.

I'm not saying, I'm not saying people like Ashton are trying to disprove God. I'm saying Ashton is trying to figure out a very complex program that the United States government is trying to harness. And the United States government may be trying to harness this program to deceive you into a world government operation to where they arise a power such as a Antichrist. that says, hey, guys, there was an alien invasion, but we have God here. Check him out. And he's going to be who saves us. There is a very, very complex thing that's going on right now. And that's why I asked Ashton earlier is a very scary thing.

We don't actually know who is in control of these doomsday weapons that we have. It's not United States. It's not Russia. It's not any of these people. It is third party elite global powers that have the control of this. And if they have the control of this. control of this, they're going to try to utilize it for their global power structure and their one world government.

And that goes back to good and evil. It does. But God's going to win. And so is good. And that's all I can tell you right now. I am I am all flabbergasted out with things to say about this. Obviously, we'll have Ashton back on in the future. We love Ashton so very much.

I think he's going to do great things in the science community. and guys until next time we love you stay prayed up is what many people say nowadays I don't pray I don't pray enough but I got to start praying and I got to start trusting in the plan trusting in the good you got to start trusting in those things guys because we cannot trust in government science anymore right you also you also have to follow good yeah for sure but until next time guys we love you by the way the name of this song is keep the lights on by Mr. Until next time, peace out.

Peace out, guys. Keep the lights on. So can't we keep the lights on? I want to see. This world can be an ugly place. Sometimes it brings out the worst in us. But when I say you pretty face, it all fades.

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