Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Was Scott Spivey Murdered | The Horry County Case Officials Ruled Self-Defense

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

Scott Spivey was shot and killed in Horry County, South Carolina—an act local authorities ruled as self-defense by Weldon Boyd. But from the moment the news broke, the story hasn’t sat right with many. Joining us on this explosive episode is Nick Duncan, a 10-year veteran of Spartanburg County law enforcement who helped expose corruption tied to Sheriff Chuck Wright. Alongside his wife Brittany, they bring firsthand insight into the systemic issues plaguing South Carolina’s justice system. Was justice truly served in the Scott Spivey case—or is this another small-town conspiracy hiding in plain sight? From questionable evidence to political protection, we break down every angle the mainstream refuses to touch.

And just for a minute, I'd fall asleep. And I don't know what the times I think. Hello and welcome to Investigator Earth Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're turning our attention to the mysterious and unsettling case of Scott Spivey, a man shot and killed in Ory County, South Carolina, in an incident ruled as self-defense by Weldon Boyd. But not everyone is buying this narrative. from conflicting accounts to suspicious gaps in the investigation, questions are piling up.

Was this truly a justified shooting or is there a deeper story being buried? Could this be another case of small town connections shielding the truth? Join us as we examine the facts, explore the inconsistencies and consider the growing whispers of conspiracy and cover-up in the death of Scott Spivey. Guys, welcome to the show. It is May the 10th, 2025. And I'm pretty excited about this episode because obviously this is, again, in our backyard.

We just recently had another episode in our backyard, like really our backyard. We talked about Sheriff Chuck Wright and all the corruption potentially the surrounding Chuck Wright. He's being investigated by the FBI. And for those that do not remember that episode, I do encourage you guys to go back and listen to it. It's getting pretty big numbers right now. And for good reason, I think that when you start looking at just kind of the overarching

aspect of corruption in general, most people always think that it's only the big time elites in government. It's only our politicians in the higher echelons of government. But when you start actually looking closer and you start looking across departments across the country, we've had so many people write in saying, hey, I have this thing that's going on in my county or my local police department. We've had tons of people reach out to us since. And Nick, we are joined by Nick Duncan and Brittany Duncan.

Brittany actually kind of brought this case to our attention. We've heard about it off and on for the past year or so. And obviously, after Nick came on our show talking about Sheriff Chuck Wright, We had to bring them on for this episode as well because obviously this is in South Carolina. This is in a very prominent and well-known tourist section of South Carolina, Myrtle Beach area. I used to live there for six or seven years. Brittany and Nick, welcome to the show.

We're very glad to have you. Hey, thank you to have it. Thank you. Yeah, not a problem. Now, Nick, obviously, one of the things that we talked about in the Sheriff Chuck Wright episode was, you know, everything kind of surrounding the corruption in Spartanburg County. And we see this quite often, right? And I think that's one of the things that you ran against Chuck Wright on was, you know,

hey, here's what I want to do with the department. Here's how I think I can be better, obviously, than my opponent. At that time, it was Sheriff Chuck Wright. And obviously, at this time, you didn't necessarily know everything that was about to come out about your opponent. Because had you have known that then, things likely would have went much different in that election than happened. but with this case, and as you've learned more about the Scott Spivey case, I guess there's similarities here, right? I mean, people covering up for others they may know, even though maybe in Spartanburg,

maybe there were people that covered up some of Chuck's, you know, inconsistencies or some of the things he may have been doing for a while. Is this common in law enforcement? Are you seeing more of it today? What is your thoughts on that? Maybe not necessarily in law enforcement, but politics as a whole. that is why I encourage term limits for everything is because the longer you're in politics, the more susceptible you are to corruption and buying into the whole power.

And somewhere between the 8 and 10, 8 to 12 year mark, you know, you'll start to see politicians have a shift. Yeah. And, you know, you eventually get enough contacts where the essentially the good old boy system is in full effect. I think that's what we're going to find here. Yeah, absolutely. And do you think, though, too, like the good old boy system?

I mean, there's been books written about this. We actually had some lady come up probably two or three, four weeks ago. And she came up to us and she was like, hey, have you guys read the book about the good old boy system? And she was trying to tell us all about this. And I think she kind of knew we're likely going to be doing an episode about the Chuck Wright thing. And so she started telling us about this. Is the good old boy system just something in the southeast or is this maybe? just everywhere. It's just part of connections.

No, it's everywhere. You know, in the South, it's the good old boy system because, you know, it's just the South. But, you know, it's everywhere, especially in politics. But it's, you know, you scratch my back. I'll scratch yours. One hand washes the other. You know, it's everywhere. Yeah. It is. And Brittany, you brought this case to my attention. Why were you so, you know, interested in this case? Well, Jennifer, Spivey Foley came across my

for you page on TikTok and that is Scott's sister. And that's what brought my attention to this. And then, you know, as I started looking at it and I knew that y'all had a large platform. And so I was like, well, maybe, you know, they can discuss it and bring more awareness to it. So hopefully that the Spivey family can get some justice for Scott. And guess what happened? I said, Brittany, why don't you do it with us? Absolutely.

We had to bring you on. And they were like, well, we've got to get Nick on too because I think Nick can offer some insights and aspects of this that we don't. have. Yeah. So some of the things we're going to cover on tonight's show is we're going to cover the initial and original 911 call where Weldon Boyd actually called 911 and this was during the pursuit or chase of Scott Spivey. Now, this all kind of stem from a road rage incident.

And so on September 9th, 2023, Scott Spivey, a 33 year old from Tabor City, North Carolina just across the border of Myrtle Beach was fatally shot on Camp Swap Road in Ory County. Now, the incident followed an alleged road. rage encounter involving spivey and North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd, along with Boyd's friend Bradley Williams. Now, Boyd and Williams claims self-defense under South Carolina's stand your ground law, stating that Spivey brandished a firearm and fired first. Consequently, no criminal charges were filed against them.

Now, Nick, I'm going to bring you in real quick. What is the stand-your-ground law? So the stand-your-ground law is if you are somewhere that you have a legal right to be, whether it's at a friend's house, a restaurant, somewhere out in public, anywhere. and something happens, whether it is, you know, someone is threatening you or threatening other individuals, you do not have, you do not have to flee. You can essentially stand your ground to protect yourself and protect others. Okay.

And for those out there that are listening that are not in South Carolina, because obviously most of our audience is outside of South Carolina, we do have a constitutional carry now in South Carolina, Nick, which just passed what last year, I believe it was. That's right. So you can constitutionally carry a firearm, whether it be concealed or open carrying. Obviously, in North Carolina, you have an open carry. So you can open carry in North Carolina, but you cannot conceal the firearm. And it's always weird because when you're traversing from South Carolina and North Carolina,

especially for people that, you know, you can conceal it in South Carolina. You cannot do that in North Carolina. So if you get pulled over, you always got to kind of be aware of what the laws are per state. But in South Carolina, we are obviously a state that believes in our gun rights, which is why the constitutional carry amendment, was passed and pushed so heavily. We've had this in many states across the country, such as Texas. I believe, I think Florida also has a similar, and I think Tennessee, maybe Arkansas. There's a lot of people in South Carolina that are armed. And they're armed because, you know,

we do believe in the Second Amendment. We do believe in our constitutional rights to carry a firearm. And that is because if you look around the world today, which if any of you have been listening to our podcast for any amount of time, you will understand why people carry firearms. This world has drastically changed. Everything that used to be back in the 80s and 90s when I grew up, there's things I just feel like are much more dangerous. Is that something you've seen in law enforcement, Nick, is just a shift in just the way people are nowadays as far as you probably should carry

a firearm if you can just to kind of protect yourself in these days. Yeah, people have a short fuse these days, you know, it's crazy. You know, before Road Rage was just throw up your hand and shoot a middle finger and go about your business. but people want to pull over and fight and carry on. Yeah, absolutely. Now, as a sheriff or patrol, would they prefer people to have their gun where the police could see it or does it matter?

I'm just curious. To me, it didn't really ever matter. I mean, you're not going to see what you're not going to see anyway. But, you know, I always appreciated somebody just saying, hey, I do have a firearm. It's in the glove box or I have a firearm. It's on my side or whatever. And, you know, don't shoot me. I don't shoot you.

That was my thoughts on it. You know, you have a right to have a gun. And, you know, if you tell me you have a concealed carry, then I would assume that you had a concealed carry. You know, if we cross that line and we figure out you don't, you know, we'll cross that bridge later. But I always appreciated it. But, you know, obviously it's not necessary because like I said, if I don't know, I don't know. Yeah. And I want to bring up to some of the characters in this story that you're going to hear tonight.

In this case, obviously, has been fraught with controversy. And it's primarily centered around the conduct of Orie County Police Department. and his officer. So, number one, officer misconduct. Sergeant Paul Damon Viscovy. He was terminated after body camera footage revealed him displaying a note to Boyd and Williams at the crime scene reading, act like a victim and camera suggesting coaching during the investigation.

And then you have the conflict of interest. Former deputy chief, Brandon Strickland, a close friend of Boyd, resigned amid allegations of influencing the investigation, recorded phone calls between Strickland and Boyd, indicated that Strickland assured Boyd a protection and had a role in selecting the investigators for the case. And so we're going to play some of those clips a little bit later in the show. And then you have evidence handling. An internal investigation by Horry County Police Department uncovered the several dash cam videos related to the incident were mislabeled, quote unquote, raising concerns about evidence management.

And so there's a lot of weird stuff about this from the conversations of Weldon Boyd with some of the officers, in particular Brandon Strickland. You had kind of the scene, you know, who came out to the scene, why these particular people came out to the scene because of Void's connections potentially with this department. There's so much to talk about here. And I think the very best thing we can do from the very beginning is get into the actual 911 call where we hear what happened and what led to Scott Spivey's death. Listen. 911, okay, see me and see. Hey, I've got a guy pointing a gun at me driving.

We're armed as well. He keeps throwing the gun in our faces. I don't like he's about to shoot us. If he keeps this up, I'm going to shoot him. Where are you at? I'm on Highway 9. He's trying to run from me now. We're on Highway 9 headed toward Loris.

You have a cross street? We just passed Marlowe Circle. We're past the Marlowe Circle. We're heading towards Loris. and with him the whole way. Y'all need to get this guy off the road. He's aiming guns at people. He ragged it.

He was about to shoot at us and pulled our guns out. I don't know what this dude's problem is. I'm towed a fucking couch, and he just pulls up next to it and aims a gun at my fucking friend's head. Okay, what's your name? He's in a black Chevrolet. His license plate is, it's a Michigan. What does I say?

North Carolina weighted tag. Chevrolet black pickup truck. Yes, he's aiming guns. Listen, this dude shoots at me. We're going to put him down. I mean, this dude's insane. Are you following him or is he following you? He's been following us.

Now we're behind him. All right, so this is the very first part of what we got to talk about. The dispatcher just asked Weldon Boyd, are you following him or is he following you? Well, we're following him now, but, you know, he was following us. We also have not yet heard Weldon Boyd say that he's, shot at them. He said that he was waving a gun, but there was no shots fired at this time. Now, obviously, in this particular instance, in circumstance, you have now someone that is following

Scott Spivey and where this, you know, stand your ground law starts to maybe unravel here a little bit. Nick is like, well, you're following this person now. Now, Nick, if you call the police and, you know, someone did wave a gun at you, like, what is your rights or at least, I guess, what should you do in this circumstance where you want this person to be caught. And obviously he just gave the tag number and the description of the vehicle, I believe. What is he doing wrong so far? Well, if Spivey was chasing him, okay, you were the victim and you have a right to defend yourself. You do not have to flee to stand your ground law.

You do not have to flee. However, he tells the dispatcher, he was chasing us, but now we're chasing him. So those roles completely flipped at that point. Now you become the aggressor. No, I agree. But I still don't understand this. And Brittany, maybe you can clarify this because what it sounded like in the beginning of this whole crazy situation is that there was a break check. And when there was a break check, Weldon went into a ditch with his trailer and his couch.

There's a lie coming up right from that. and then he gets back on the road and starts chasing spivey. But who's break checking who? Yeah. I mean, it sounds like maybe that, you know, Scott may initially have break check them,

but I, you know, I don't really know. Because he said that he, they, that spivey was chasing them. But if he, if he did,

if he slammed his brakes on, wouldn't it mean they would be in back of them? Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe, maybe he break checked spivey. Yeah,

or maybe he did that. and then ended up running off the road. But we know for sure that Weldon ran off the road with his trailer. And then when he got his couch back on the trailer and got out of the ditch is when he started following Spivey. And he said, and we'll hear later, that his truck is super fast. He has a TRX truck. So he was going to catch up to this guy. And at that point, like Nick is saying, he is now following Spivey.

Yeah, by the way, Dodge TRXs are, they're not cheap trucks. number one. They get about a thousand horsepower, very, very fast vehicles. And this is something that Weldon will continue to say in this, not one call. I had a couch and I had a couch and I had a couch. And, you know, he ran me off the road. But it almost sounds like, to Sherry's point, that he ran him off the road by break checking him to where he had to almost weave around or into a ditch where it sounds like from the entire story so far that we've heard, I have yet to hear at least, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I've yet to hear Weldon's say that Spivey was behind them.

Or he said he came next to him and was waving his gun. Yeah. And I wonder what, what trance took place before this? Yeah. Yeah, because he said that Spivey was chasing us, but now we're chasing him. So at what point did y'all change places? Like you can't break check from behind if he was chasing me.

That's what's confusion to me. Yeah. And so that's weird, you know, from the very beginning. All right, let's listen to some more of this. We've got pictures of him holding. I've got pictures of him aiming the gun at us, everything. He's about to put the gun out again. Sir, this guy aims that gun at me.

We're going to have to shoot him. Did it start with a rotary agent? He just pulled up next to him. I didn't do it. I was talking to my friend. We're trailering couches. And this dude just, my buddy's like, what the fuck? And he's got a gun aimed at us next to us.

Then he tried to slam on brakes and whanked me. ran me into the grass. He just slurbed at me. I need a trooper fast. He may shoot at the cop too, man. Tell the cops, we're in a white ram pickup truck, and we are armed. I'm military, so it ain't us. Don't shoot us.

But this dude's fucking nuts. Did he say anything to you or just point the gun at you? No, he's turning off the road. We're going to keep trying to follow him. But if he starts shooting, dude, I don't. I don't know. All right. So he's turning on to Camp Swat Road.

All right. So obviously you're hearing he's still chasing him in this circumstance. Like what is dispatchers doing wrong here? Go ahead, Brittany. Well, for one, he started to say holding his gun and he changed it to aiming. And that, I mean, that got my attention. And then also he says, I'm military. So already Boyd's using his title from the very beginning to gain credibility in the situation.

And when he was aiming the gun, they did take pictures, but from the pictures, it looks like they're behind him. But maybe they're like swerving back and forth. And you know how people fight on the road and they're back and forth with each other, but next to each other maybe. Could very well be, you know, one overtaking the other going back and forth, back and forth. Yeah, because they're hauling couches. Right. But once, you know, once Spivey is in front, you know, if this was a law enforcement chase, then, you know, the things. things you have to consider when being in a chase is the safety to the public and, you know,

how fast are you going? What is the threat to the public? And, you know, right now the threat is between Spivey and Boyd. So if Spivey is ahead, then he is no longer a threat to Boyd. So what, stand your ground. Okay, if you're going that way, you can, I guess, claim to stand your ground. But if he is turning on to Camp Swant Road, then, you know, unless you're going the same direction, then you can't really claim the stand your ground. Yeah. And do you think that him by Boyd saying, listen, he's put it waving his gun.

If he shoots at us, we're going to have to put him down. What do you think that means? That's a foreshadowing term. You know, that's, that's a movie term. That is, you know, for things. to come. And things are about to come as we're about to hear in just a moment. And leading up to this podcast, and I know that Nick and Brittany, we've talked about this with you and we're going to talk about in a moment. But last night we had a guy in our telegram. Our telegram, we have a lot of our

listeners that kind of, you know, we typically do live streams or live audio streams with our listeners. We have a had a dispatcher last night that, you know, dispatched and knows this story. And one of the first things he said was number one the dispatcher did not do what he probably should have been doing by telling weldin boyd to stop chasing especially in a circumstance where you have someone waving a gun and then you have weld and boy on the phone saying hey we're going to have to put him down this is obviously leading to a very bad situation and so far in this 911 call we have not heard dispatch try to de-escalate the situation by saying hey look we we have the tag number we have description we have whatever we need you know you need to stop chasing stop following this is only

going to get you in a bad situation are our dispatchers trained typically nick to deescalate especially in road rage instance because i'm sure road rage stuff happens all the time oh yeah i mean as a dispatcher you're not supposed to escalate the situation you're supposed to deescalate the situation and i'm i'm very disappointed to hear that the dispatcher did not do that in this case um at least you know unless there's another tape out there somewhere from, you know, prior to this call. But this dispatcher just seems very, you know, not to armchair quarterback it, but seems that very lackadaisical, I guess. Yeah.

No, I agree. Should have definitely, you know, canceled this chase or at the very least told him to back off, you know, let us get there. We'll find him. You've got his tag number. You've got a picture of him committing the crime. appointing and present him let him go we'll find him we'll deal with it later it's kind of interesting that we talk about this and i didn't think about this until just a moment ago but i have a second

cousin that i actually didn't even know lived in the area that we live in you know in the upstate of south carolina and it was in south it was in sparkberg county actually probably three or four years ago there was a chase and i'm not exactly sure i think it was maybe duncan or wellford or one of the departments actually was chasing this vehicle and i think think they went on the Wellford exit, if I'm not mistaken. They were chasing the charger, I think. And my second cousin pulled out of his driveway, I believe it was, or whatever it was, and got hit because this chase was like over 100 miles an hour.

Chase went up through 85, got off the exit, went down this road. And then my second cousin got hit by the car. I think it was the car they were chasing got hit at over 100 miles an hour. He died on the scene instantly. And these are the dangers, obviously, in. chases. And this is why there are protocols in law enforcement, Nick, that you, you know, back in the day, it would seem like, you know, cops would chase you no matter what. And I think since a lot of things have happened, they've done a lot more for trying to protect the public

better. Is that how you would say it? Absolutely. Especially with, you know, technology now, you have, you know, video cameras in, in car video cameras. You have, in this case, you have a cell phone, again, of him committing the crime. He's, he's given him. him the tag number, giving him to the description. He has a picture of it. They're traveling. I don't think we've figured it out yet, but he's traveling over 100 mile an hour to catch up to spivey and to chase him down. Like there is a serious threat to the public there.

Yeah, absolutely. And Brittany, how many miles was he following him for? Oh, I think they were a little over nine miles. Nine miles. Yeah. That's a long time. You think about going from, well, I can't really do a point. Yeah.

Yeah, don't do that. From here to there. From here to there. Yeah, from here to there. Now, I know Highway 9 in Myrtle Beach, North, Myrtle Beach area, Highway 9 is, you know, decently, I mean, I guess you can say decently desolate. But I think this was kind of towards the evening time when this happened or at least, you know, late afternoon. It was like 5.30, right? Yeah, late afternoon.

Yeah, so you have a lot of people on the road getting home from work or going home from work, going to eat. So you have a two-lane highway situation. And although what? we're not going to play on tonight's podcast is there were many 911 calls. And if we played all the 911 calls of people that were kind of around the situation that kind of saw what happened, there were ladies calling that had kids in the car, which, you know, that's obviously something very not regular that you're going to see in your everyday life.

And so let's listen to some more of this 911 call and see how this thing transpires. What road? Camp swap road. Camp he's stopping. He's stopping. Hey, we're about to have a fucking shootout, dude. This dude's got a gun. He's got a fucking gun.

Do you have an address where you stopped at? We're at, hey, hey, put it in gear. Are you guys shooting? Hello? Hello? You're right here. You can hear this is where the shootout starts. You can hear those like pops in the background.

And come to find out, Weldon Boyd is now shooting through his front windshield. Both of them are. Yeah. And so, Brittany, you had sent us a clip that. kind of highlights this a little better to where it's, you can hear it a little better as far as what actually happens in this moment. And this is even when his, his friend Bradley Williams,

Bradley Williams says, why didn't you leave him alone? And you can hear it more, I guess just more pronounced on this clip. Listen. Weldon back up. I'm not going to have it. I can't put it in gear.

Put it here. Reload. Backing up, back it up, back and up. I got it. Please. So there's his partner. And I'm going to cuss because I'm going to say what exactly he said. He said, why couldn't you fucking left him alone?

Yes. Now, obviously, his partner sounds like that he realized we're probably maybe about to go to jail for murder. This was kind of his mindset. What do you guys think about that saying right there? Well, that says a lot. And with Boyd, what I find funny with Boyd, you know, not funny, ha-ha, but, you know, we were talking earlier about the foreshadowing. You know, he says as we're stopping, we're about to get in a show. shootout. How do you know you're about getting a shootout? Yeah, unless you kind of were

planning. Kind of knew this. You were looking for one. You were looking for a shootout the whole time. And with that being said, Brittany, tell a little bit about his background that day. What was going on in his world that day that could have even maybe led up to this? Well, it had been reported that Weldon's fiance, who was seven months pregnant at the time with Boyd's child, had recently left him for another man named Benji Spivey. I don't believe he has any relation to Scott Spivey, but it's reported that Benji and Scott favored one another. They're about the same age and drove similar trucks.

They both had facial hair. So, I mean, is it possible that Weldon thought that Scott was Benji? Is it possible that Boyd went out that day looking for Benji because his family was falling apart? Or is it just that there was no mix-up and all coincidence, And that this is just, you know, maybe what was going on in Boyd's personal life, had him on edge and contributed to his state of mind. And that's he basically gunned down Scott over a break check. I mean.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's weird because we say on the podcast. Yeah, we say on the podcast all the time, there's no such thing as coincidences. And there may very well be here, right? I mean, we don't know. We don't know. We don't. It is weird, obviously.

Very strange. Well, and Benji, the one that he. his wife was having or his fiance was having a affair with. His dad's name was Scott Spivey. Isn't that crazy? What a coincidence. And just that day, he had listed an $11,000 ring that was five carrots. And then I think he listed her car, right?

Yeah, I think so. What did he buy the car for or something? She put the ring, the engagement ring inside the car and left it that day. That day. So Weldon sounds like he may have a little money. I mean, he's driving a TRX, I think, is what maybe the truck was. He bought a vehicle for his fiancé, a nice ring. But the interesting thing, too, is like, let's just do a little conspiracy theory, sidebar here, as you might call it.

The crazy thing about this is, as you guys are about to find out, that Boyd had a lot of connections in law enforcement in Ori County. And I know my time in Ori County, you kind of know that, you know, the good old boy system is a thing. And it's a thing, not necessarily in a bad way, right? I mean, you, if you're a business owner or maybe you're a firefighter in Oregon County or you're a police officer or whatever the case is, when all of the tourists kind of descend on Myrtle Beach and you are in this kind of, especially in law enforcement, especially as a first responder in those months that you are constantly on the go. And that's law enforcement, that's firefighters. It's like a blur for about, I don't know, four or five, six months. I mean, you are the busiest you're ever going to be. And then the offseason comes and kind of everybody goes home.

But when everybody goes home, you really start to see in Myrtle Beach in that area, this camaraderie that kind of takes place. And it's not just from law enforcement and firefighters, but it's the business owners, it's the restaurant. You know, everybody in that community really kind of knows everybody. It's funny when you look at Myrtle Beach area and you think of millions of people that are usually there in the summer. But when you take the summer aspect out of it, you have a small community.

You have a community that is very connected. They're very tight. And especially to people that are, you know, business owners or first responders or whoever this in this area, a lot of people get to know each other. And they feel like that, you know, because of we're kind of like the forefront of the battle against the tourist kind of, you know, every four or five, six months, there is a camaraderie there. And even with business owners.

And so, you know, it seems like people that might say, well, how does this Boyd guy have so many connections in law enforcement. I don't think boys is the only person, right? I mean, you go to anywhere. You go to Hilton Head. You go to, you go to anywhere that is a huge tourist attraction area and you have restaurant owners.

Go ask any of those restaurant owners if they are connected or no law enforcement in some way that, you know, if something happens, who were they calling? Go back to Murdoch, for example, the Murdoch murders and how influential he was in South Carolina and law and his entire family. And there's a lot of people with speculate. like did or was, you know, Murdoch coached at the crime scene of when that happened. We don't know for sure. There's a lot of still unanswered questions in my mind about what happened in the Murdoch

case, which we also covered. But this is not necessarily uncommon this thing. Now, I don't know if that's the way it is like, say here, Nick and Spartanburg County. I mean, did you ever see any stuff like that? I mean, how connected was the Sheriff's Department in Spartanburg County with local business owners or, you know, was there people that were prominent in the case? County that could make a call when something happened to where your guys were like, maybe you would investigate it more?

And I'm not saying you particularly, but, you know, the department. Absolutely. I mean, we called them, honestly, you know, in the department, we called them Friends of Chuck, FOCs. So, you know, I worked in investigations and, you know, if Captain called up and said, hey, we got a FOC, I, Captain probably wouldn't say FOC, but, you know, Captain called up and say, hey, you know, I need you to take care of this. In one instance, it was a missing chicken.

It was a chicken. I was not to say, tell the chicken store. We had to get two investigators off of their normal caseload to go investigate a chicken because the owner of the chicken was an FOC. So, I mean, it happens everywhere. You know, it shouldn't. I mean, everybody should be treated equally. But it happens everywhere. Yeah.

Hey, if you ever become sure, if nobody better mess with my chickens. That's right. Or our beagle. Yeah, or our beagle. But I think it is a good. it is a good thing for law enforcement to have a relationship with the community as well. Right. It's very important to network and, you know, support those, you know, people in the community. But at the same time, you don't protect, you don't have good old boys and girls who protect, you know, their own, no matter what, even if it means bending and breaking the law.

Right. When the law comes into effect, like the law is the law and, you know, we don't help people break the law or we don't. don't help people get away with law. You know, we're not defense attorneys. We are the law. Yeah, Nick. And how many times have you saw Nick? Obviously, there's tons of videos out there on the internet that show cops that are pulling over other cops that maybe they got hammered that night.

And they are pulled over and, you know, they'll show their badge and, you know, the officer will smell alcohol in their breath. Usually the off-duty officer that is drunk, he'll be like, hey, man, look, I'm one of you, do. Like, come on. you're going to let this go in those particular cases. I always cringe. It's weird to watch those videos sometimes because I cringe because it's not it's not

that I cringe that like the guys even, you know, asking for a favor. In some ways, in some weird way in my mind, I'm always like, yeah, the cops should let him go and like drive him. I know that sounds bad,

which is why I'm not going to be a sheriff. Yeah, that's not good. But I, but you feel bad because you know there are careers about to be destroyed. Their career's over. But that's also the case in some ways, you know,

with other people that get pulled over for DUI. But there are cops that do hold up their end of, hey, I'm going to abide by the constitutional oath that I, that I took. Right. You didn't take an oath to the Constitution just for your friends and, you know,

just to protect them. You took it to protect everyone. Just because, just because we're in the same, in the same field. I mean, I get the, you know,

I've got your six, you know, you are willing, just like the military, you are willing to, to put your life down for my life. I'm willing to put my life down for yours. We're going to protect each other.

I've got your six. You've got my six. However, if you were breaking the law and you were driving drunk and you were putting the public at risk and you were putting my wife and my children at risk because you're driving drunk, don't expect a professional courtesy with that. That is not something. You know, you were putting me in a bad position. You were asking me by you were asking me to hide my integrity.

Yeah. And compromise your integrity. Compromise my integrity. And that's just not right. Don't put me in that position. You're being a really trashy friend. Yeah. By putting me in that position.

Yeah. And also when you start that kind of analogy, you know, the analogy of, hey, look, man, I'm one of you. Like, that means that you don't give a damn about his career, about his, you know, integrity. You care about yours. Right. And so that's a selfish thing to start to do. But, you know, if you're drunk and stuff and you're, you're in your car. Of course you're going to do that.

Well, and that doesn't happen just with law enforcement. It happens with government lawyers. I mean, everyone. Nancy Pelosi's husband. Yes. Yes. Because he was also called DUI. But that DUI case disappeared because, you know, that's a higher echelon.

So you're not going to have that thing, you know, go on. But for law enforcement, it's important that you, you know, you, you maintain your integrity of the public, you know, to the public. Yeah. And I always love seeing the videos when you. see that. And even though, you know, I got your six, like you said, Nick, and you got mine, but I'm still sticking to the law and you're breaking the law and this is what's going to happen. And I'm so sorry, I am still your friend. I love you. But I mean, I'll still be there for you.

Yeah. I'll be here for you, but get your shit together. Yeah, I love you. I'm going to pray for you. We're going to get through it. But you're going to pay for what you did. You got to be held account. You know, I have, I have been, just be straight honest. I have been pulled over while on duty. and you know, a town officer come up and then they give me their whole spiel and I give them my driver's license and then they're like, oh, you're a cop? Like, yeah. You're like, well, why did you let me go through all that? I said, buddy, you do your job. Yeah. You do what you're supposed to do. If I deserve a ticket, by all means, give me a ticket. And they're like, well, I mean, are you working? Yeah, I'm working, but I mean, I just wasn't paying attention to the speed limit. Well, you know, okay. You know,

if I deserve it, give it to me. I mean, that's my integrity. Yes, your integrity just because we're in the same profession you know that that's just where I stand yeah and by the way that's that's called you know okay so there is something called professional courtesy and I've seen it happen with my brother my brother you know has been a cop somewhere in North Carolina and so there was a time we were coming back from somewhere he was speeding a little bit he he gave his ID because his ID his wallet has his badge in it and whatever and it was a trooper and he's oh he's like you're uh your long for him's like yeah he's all right have a good day left right and my brother was only going like 10 miles over to speed limit.

But that's one thing, right? He wasn't drinking. Well, and they do that. Well, a lot of times they'll do that for regular citizens. Exactly. It's officer discretion. But when you get into situations like this, and this is where everything turns, when you have a case where this guy's not law enforcement, but, you know, he did just tell you he

is military, even though he isn't military. I mean, maybe he's reserve or whatever. I don't know. Maybe he was military. But when you get in a situation like this, the good old boy system where, hey, I'm your friend, bro, like, and make sure that I am protected. Yeah, get here now. Yeah, don't shoot me.

Don't shoot me. I'm military. Yeah, make sure you don't shoot me. I'm military and, you know, I'm hauling couches. Let's listen to some more of this because there's so much more to unpack and we're already in 39 minutes. But are you guys shooting up, back and up, back and up. Are you guys shooting each other? Hey, boss, please.

Are you guys shooting each other? I mean, maybe at least he could have said, hey, you guys probably shouldn't be shooting. each other. But anyways, continue. Are you guys shooting each other? He aimed and shot. He held his gun and aimed right ass. Dude, please come

help us, man. Has anybody shot? I don't know. Dude, I don't want to go over there. This guy will try to kill us. I don't know if he's shot or not, man. Fucking first. The dude shot at him.

Why the fuck would he do that? Where are you at? I'm on Camp Swamp Road. You turned off from 9. You're on Camp Swamp Road? Yes. This dude, he fucking shot at her. Why the fuck would he do that?

I don't know. Man, he might be dead. We don't know, man. Why the fuck what he did you fucking? And this man right here sounds like he is just enrage. And I am one of those people that travel with a firearm. everywhere we go. It doesn't matter because I'm always like, hey, if a situation occurs to where I have to

protect myself from my wife or whoever I'm with, I need to be able to use my firearm to protect myself. But also understanding that any time that you present a firearm, you better be ready to use it and you better be ready to go and live with the consequences of that action. And so even if you can carry a firearm in South Carolina, like we talked about earlier with the constitutional carry, that's one thing. But to make the decision to use the firearm in a particular circumstance and especially

considering the fact that you followed this guy for nine plus miles, he turned off on a road where I think Camp Swamp Road was actually leading back to his house, right? So he was trying to get back to his house. So now obviously you go from this main type of highway, which is Highway 9. And so when you turn off Highway 9 on Camp Swamp Road, it is a two lane road. You have right and left lane. It's a very narrow road. There are trees kind of alongside the roadway.

It is a very narrow road. You're getting into kind of the woods. You're getting into the narrow back roads of this area. What it sounds like to me at this point is that, you know, Scott Spivey realized that he is not getting away from this truck. And yeah, because we got to remember that they went into a ditch with the couch and they had to get the couch back and get out of the ditch. and then catch up with him. Yes. They had to catch him.

Yeah, they had to catch him. And we're talking speeds over 100 mile an hour to catch him. Yeah, so you're on this two lane road. Now, if you're being chased, now we don't know, by the way, at this point, when they turn off on Camp Swap Road, you know, what is the mindset? What is the situation? What is the, what is the story here? Like, you have the TRX that is behind Scott Spivey. You're not going to escape that vehicle.

If this is a TRX dodge, you're not. escape in that truck unless you're in like a Lamborghini and maybe even in that case you may not escape a TRX. And so you're not going to escape this and I think in almost some ways maybe Scott Spivey stopped in the road to be like hey dude quit following me.

That's exactly what he did. And he didn't want to lead him maybe back home Nick. I mean is that is that kind of you know he's getting close to his house. So both both individuals you know Boyd and Spivey obviously had some sort of adrenaline dump at some point. So let's let's just say that Spivey is the one

that initiated everything. Did, you know, break check him, running him off the side of the road, even drove up beside him before he did that as he was coming around, flash his gun because he was going too slow or whatever. So, you know, he's got his adrenaline dump. And by now he's thinking, damn, I messed up. Like, I shouldn't have done that. Now I got this guy following me.

So now I'm trying to get away. And he's traveling super fast, 100 mile an hour, or however fast they're going for over nine miles. I just want to get back home. So I turn on my road. I'm not going to lead him back to my house. I don't think anybody would. So what do you do?

You stop and you're like, hey, quit following me or whatever. Maybe if I stop, maybe he'll just pass by. Here's the question for both of you, Brittany and Nick. What if Scott Spivey knowing what we're about to find out in this podcast about Weldon Boyd's connections in Ory County? keep that in mind for a second say that scott spivey turns off on this road he then stops in the road because you know he's like hey you're going to quit following me but what if scott spivey would have got the shots off to the pursuers at this point because they are the pursuers and

he gets his shots off into weld and boyd and the person in the passenger seat and he kills them would scott spivey now be in jail for murder Absolutely not. He'd have been 100% justified. He would have been standing his ground. Yeah, he is the only one in this situation at this point. He is the only one, in my opinion, actually standing his ground. Yeah, but what if the investigation told different story? Well, what if just them seeing that it was welded, you know, and the connections that he has,

I mean, yeah, I mean, I think should it had happened? you know like if it was reversed and Scott shot and killed Weldon and Bradley should it had happened that Scott went to jail no but with Boyd's connections probably would have he would have I think so now during the 911 call brittany he says he shot at us first he shot at us first do we know for like certainty that he even shot anything I don't know that we know that We know that for sure. Because there's no shots in their truck. The only shots...

Well, I think that there was... Oh, in the tellgate. Right? And in Scott's truck, I think his sister had to call three times to have... Three or four times to have evidence come and taken out of Scott's truck whenever she met with the insurance adjuster and stuff like that. But, I mean, I also think that it was clear to Scott when Boyd turned down Camp Swamp Road, that Boyd was committed to follow. him that he, you know, he didn't keep going straight down how he was committed that he was going to follow him and, you know, and continue. And it was, it was an inevitable shootout no matter what in this.

Unless law enforcement would have been in the area and could have intervened at a certain point in time, which, you know, Highway 9 to Camp Swamp Road, that's out there. You know, it's not somewhere law enforcement necessarily is going to be. And we have to remember that Spivey had been at a bar previous to this and had been drinking. He was drinking and driving and had a weapon, which is a big no-no. So I guess we got to put that into the situation as well, right? Right. And thinking about Boyd, thinking back on it, I'm just cutting in. Sorry.

So, you know, Boyd mentioned that he racked his gun earlier in that 911 call. He said he pointed it. He racked it. He pointed it at us going down the road. And then did he not say that again that he got out of the truck and he racked his gun again? Like, how many times do you need to rack your gun? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Yeah.

And the thing, too, is he's saying he pulled out his gun and he racked it. If Scott was looking for a gun fight when he pulled off on the Camp Swamp Road, do you not think that it would have already happened that he would have already racked his gun and ready to go? Yeah. I mean, it seems to me that he just wanted to intimidate them and show his gun so that they would back off and lead them the heckle-home. Intimidation factor, just like, you know, just like a home defense, you know, it's better to have a pump shotgun because everybody knows that universal sound.

Yeah. You know, somebody breaks into my house, they hear that sound. They're like, oh, shit, I never get out of here. Yeah. Now, Nick, with what I just said, I just want to ask you, what Chad was asking you, he was standing his ground, but what if he was drinking with a weapon? Would that change the circumstances? I mean, it does.

It does. he may have gotten, you know, in trouble for that. But as far as protecting his life, he would not have gotten in trouble for that. You know, he may have, you know, caught some charge about carrying a firearm, you know, unlawful carry or whatever. Maybe some other charge, but he would not have been charged with murder. He would have been charged with, you know, anything like that. Yeah. And then you got, I mean, it really sounds to me like Boyd's pursuing a gunfight.

You know, he's saying it's going to be a shootout. prior to him even pulling on to Camp Swamprope. It's going to be a shootout. We're going to have to put him down. And he still turned down that road. Right. Yeah. And keep in mind, too, it's like, you know, when you have a situation to where your

fiancee just broke up with you, gave back your diamond ring, gave back the vehicle. And was this the same day? Same day. Same day. Yeah. So, see, that's what's crazy to me. It is like. It is crazy.

Listen, Sherry and I used to not be so loving to each other at times. And like, I'm just going to be. honest. But at the same time, it's like if you have this mindset and you get into a situation, say you're pissed off as hell, you are mad at the world, you were, you were hauling couches and you were going down a road. And some dude just lightly screws with you, right? And I've had this. I've had this for. I've been pissed off before on the road. And listen, it does not take a lot to, you know, if you drive around, especially South Carolina for some reason. I don't know what the hell is up with South Carolina drivers, but...

Well, and the lights, the lights are wrong. The red lights are crazy. I don't know. Who's the engineers for those? Yes. But like, you just get pissed off sometimes. And, but what leads you from that to like, hey, I'm going to escalate the situation to the maximum degree.

And there's always something I always talk about with the videos I see all the time. And I think maybe, Nick, we talked about this on the Spartan County episode where, you know, there are these guys that, um, their First Amendment auditors and they go to law enforcement, you know, places and they try to kind of instigate stuff. And there are some officers in some departments that do very well at this and handling these situations to where they're saying, you know, hey, look, they have a right to film. They have a right to do whatever they're doing. But then there's some officers, it seems like they had a really bad day or really bad

morning. Maybe their wife hates them. Maybe their entire family structure is just completely screwed. And you can maybe usually tell those people that just escalate everything. Right. And it almost seems like Weldon was in the perfect mind. set potentially that it was the wrong day for this particular thing to happen and he almost wanted to get out everything from everything maybe he was filling.

I'm not a psychologist. I'm not an investigator. I'm just saying that it just, it was like the perfect possible scenario potentially that his fiancee was leaving and all this stuff. And then this happened. And the dude was named Spivey and all that. Right. Right.

And it also could be that he was trying to show out for his friend. Yeah. Yeah, that could very well be part of it. You know, just trying to get a little bit of his, what is it, mojo back or something, you know. Well, when you get into a stressful situation like that, you know, if you're thinking fast enough, you know, everything moves in slow motion,

the adrenaline dump and all that, you know, you have an outcome in your head, like where you think this is headed. And it's kind of like riding a motorcycle. You look where you want to go. And it's the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's, if you are already in your mind, I am going to have a shootout, then there is a good chance that that is possibly where you're headed. However, if you're, I'm going to get away from this. Get off the X. I'm going to go. You know, then when Spivey stopped, guess what? You just keep driving.

Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, yeah, when you're thinking about this and he's, he's kind of predestined this and he's saying, hey, we're going to, we're going to have a shootout. We're going to have a shootout. We're going to have a shootout. He is essentially. preparing himself for what is to come. He's probably in his mind. That's where his mind is going. That's where he is, you know, subconsciously, I believe that is where he was directing his mind. And that's where he was directing his actions. Yeah.

And not to keep on with the dispatcher, because, I mean, he didn't shoot anybody. But the whole, where are y'all at? You know, like, okay, you should have already known where they are. Like, he told you they were turning onto that road. Like, you know, that's got to be. I mean, if you're responding to a call, you know, and you know that there's guns, you know there's road rates, you know their speed and all this stuff, like, that's got to be frustrating too. Responding to that call if a dispatcher is not telling you exactly where you need to be going.

You know, is that even a factor in all of this? I don't know. Or the cops even responding to where they even need to be going to? That is a good point. And, you know, the dispatcher could have used to have been a cop that was in corruption. Now he's a dispatcher. I don't know. I'm just kidding.

But he might be friends with Strickland. Yeah, who knows. But let's listen to the rest of this 911 call. And then we're going to get to the personal phone calls from Weldon, which may shed a lot more light than even what we're talking about here. Listen. How quick can you give me a cop here? They're coming. You think you hit him?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. 100% he got out held the gun up

and then he racked it and when he racked it I tried to put the truck in reverse and get the fuck out of here and then he shot I don't know if he shot my truck I don't know where it hit but as soon as he shot man I shot back I can't

risk my fucking life like that I understand I can't hear I can't hear you I'm in my truck and it's loud I've got to get out of my truck and see if this dude's alive or not. Okay. All right. You should have said, no, you probably should not get out of your truck.

Leave him there. Stay the hell in your truck. Well, just two seconds later ago. He's like, man, I can't go over there. He's going to shoot me and try to kill me. Although, you know, he's slumped over in his car and he's dead. And he can't risk his life after he's been going 100 miles an hour down highway on. Exactly.

I'm driving crazy and reckless. And you can't hear what the dispatcher is saying because you just shot. through your windshield. I'm surprised that you can even see at this point because, you know, the smoke probably. I don't know, the shards, the glass shards. I mean, you know, that's like the thing to do, you know, you see law enforcement do that.

They shoot through the windshield sometimes on like the worst case scenario, right? And that's never, Nick, and you can probably tell this, but that's like the worst case scenario because you don't want to shoot through windshields because it could disable you from the fight from the shards of glass, right? Well, I mean, the shards of glass and then you can't see through the windshield and now okay so now it's just shot through my windshield can i see the suspect anymore and you know it's so okay that's the last ditch effort yeah and and so then so he pulls up on this now listen let's just say that weld and boyd is correct here with what he says about when when scott spivey got out of the

vehicle and the first thing he says he was racking his gun so basically it sounds like he didn't have one in the chamber but yeah he kept saying he was racking his gun throughout this whole process so how many times you got to rack your gun to get one in the chamber i mean that's the question and number three i guess on on what i'm trying to say is that he was racking his gun which means that you know yes if if you want to give weld and boyd any type of credit if if say that the situation was completely different you did not follow him for nine miles you did not go over a hundred miles an hour and chasing this guy down even to the point where he turned off on the road where he was headed towards his house, which obviously Weldon Boyd would not necessarily know where this guy lives.

But the guy eventually stops in the road and now he is out of the vehicle, ragging his weapon, and he is about to potentially shoot at Weldon Boyd. In that particular situation, if this thing was just random, you're behind a vehicle, they stop in the middle of the road, he gets out and he starts racking his weapon to shoot you. That's where stand your ground law would apply. if everything that we have listened to so far did not happen. Is that correct? Even if you are following the person?

Yeah. Well, you're behind the vehicle? Yeah, I'm just saying regardless of the following thing. Say the guy in front of you is break checking, whatever, and then he gets pissed off at you and he stops the car in the middle of the

freaking road. It gets out of the vehicle. He's racking his weapon. He's about to shoot you at that point. Then the standard ground law would still apply, but everything leading up to this particular circumstance negates that in my mind, Nick? Right, yeah.

I mean, I can see that with Boyd. I mean, Boyd does not have to run away. Okay, if he was just, you know, forget everything else. If he just, if Spivey stopped on the side of the road and he was like, what is he doing? What's this guy doing? And he stops and he comes out with a gun. Okay. Now Boyd has a stand your ground.

But, you know, like you said, with all this other stuff that was going on before, that negates everything with Boyd. and then the only one with the stand your ground is spivey yes 100% and i want to make that clear because i think that you know in this last part of this 911 call where he's like well we had to do what we had to do because he got out of the car and he was ragged his weapon you fall in for nine miles you were probably on his ass you were probably right at his bumper we don't know that for sure but i'm just saying probably you have a TRX you're he's not outrunning you and this is now until you get to the personal calls

Chad. I know, but listen, but here's also the thing. Like, let's forget the weapons, for example. One of the things we've talked about on the podcast before, and I know this is getting a little bit conspiratorial, but the CIA, where you had Mike Pompeo, and I think it was, was it Julian Assange or was it? Yeah. I think it was Julian Assange.

Yeah, that he said he wanted him. Yeah. So Mike Pompeo, there was a leaked document from Mike Pompeo, CIA guy at the time, CI director and there was a leaked document that showed that they wanted to get rid of Julian Assange. And so one of the ways they wanted to get rid of him was they wanted to involve him in a traffic accident. They wanted to set up a situation to where they were basically chasing a vehicle, rammed the vehicle off the road, killing him, however they needed to do this, just to get him out of the conversation out of the spear. Now, this is a Leaksia document.

And this happens all the time. This just happened to Virginia Jewfrey, by the way. And then she was found suicided two weeks later. Yeah, she had a bus accident, supposedly, and then all this stuff. But what I'm saying is a vehicle alone can be a weapon. I mean, if you're being chased and say you're whoever, it doesn't matter who are, if you're being chased, a vehicle alone can kill you instantaneously, especially if it's a Dodge, Ram, TRX, He's got a thousand horsepower.

It is hauling ass. I can't tell you how many people that have died in traffic accidents from situations like this. So it's not just a gun thing. You are technically, if you're Scott Spivey and you're being chased for nine miles, you're fearing for your life of this position. I mean, if the circumstances would have been reversed and there would have been a drone video of this entire situation and you see what we think we are hearing here, Scott Spivey could have legally got out of the vehicle and shot both of them.

and maintain the stand-your-ground law defense. And this is just from the 911 calls we're hearing. Yes. This is not from any of the other leaked calls that have come out. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Let's listen to the rest of this, and then we're going to get into the personal calls.

Do I get off the phone? What do I do? No, Sam. Do you have another mag? How far from California are you on Camp Swamp Road? Do you want me to check to see if you? die alive or not? I wouldn't get too close

in case he shoots again. How far from Highway 9 on Camp Swamp are you? We're right off the road. And I don't know what that sound is right there, but it almost sounds like gunshots again. I mean, I could be wrong, but... It does sound like the same that we heard earlier. And that's what, like, a minute

later? He just said, get me another mag, dude. Right, he just asked for another mag. Yeah, right. And is that a kill shot? I don't know. That's a good question. Is that the final you know, okay, it looks like he's still breathing. I'll pop him one more time. He's like, give me another bag.

Why do you need another mag? Yeah, if you're already done with it. And I don't know, by the way, I did not count all the shots we heard. Yeah. Yes, all speculation. We have no idea. We're just kind of speculating here. But I don't know.

I didn't count how many shots it was that we heard prior to what we just heard. But there was a lot. But basically the rest of the 911 call is just saying, hey, dude, I need to call my mama. And this is going to come up in the personal. calls in a minute. So I don't even think we need to play. And another good point Nick made whenever I sent him that video also or that audio also is he had no problem putting it in reverse after they shot.

Right. He said I can't put it in gear and then let it wrong. After they shot, then it was like he put it right in reverse. Miraculously works again. Yeah. And how many shots were fired? Was it like over 40? 40 rounds.

Yeah. Over 40 rounds. Well, okay. Listen, but listen. 40 rounds. But what would cause you not to put your truck in gear? I don't understand. You're looking for a gunfight.

Yeah. Okay. So a firearm, okay, I don't know, I don't know what weapons were used. But let's say it's 15 round magazine. Okay, so there's two in, there's two in Boyd's truck. That's 30. And then, okay. Bradley Williams was shooting.

It's what it sounds like. But how many times of Bradley's shoot, do we know? Yeah, they have no idea. shot out the window. Yeah, but it looked like if you look at the actual image, it looked like everything come from Weldon Boyd's side predominantly. Bradley shot too. I know.

But Boyd said he knew he killed him. Yeah. So, okay. So the next part we got to play is some of these personal phone calls. And this is the initial part of the personal phone calls with Weldon Boyd and some of the guys, both law enforcement and also family. and then we're going to get into kind of the really crazy stuff to where you start hearing the relationship between Weldon Boyd and law enforcement. And then at the end of this, we're going to break all this down.

And at the end of each clip, we'll break it down. But we're really going to break down what the entire scenario maybe means in relative terms because there's so many people talking about this. And if you're the public and you're hearing something like this, the Scott Spivey case, and you're hearing about this connection with law enforcement. and Weldon Boyd being able to contact certain high positions in law enforcement to where he's like, hey, man, here's what's happening. And then you hear how law enforcement responds to him. As normal public citizens, you are probably thinking, how the hell do I not have these connections? Like, how do I not have the same benefits that maybe Weldon Boyd potentially had in this case?

And I think that's the most important thing is like we have to hear this out from a standpoint of, Is it corruption or is it not? Let's listen to this unredacted conversations between both law enforcement, family, and what Weldon Boyd said after the fact, listen. And before you do that, I just want to mention the only reason we have these phone calls is because he had put a voice recorder on his phone because he was going through a custody battle with his unborn child with his fiancee. And he forgot that he had this pre-recorder on.

Yeah, for sure. All right, let's listen. I got people. I got a judge. I county judge. I've got Brandon with the SWAT team. What's up, man? Brandon, where are you at?

I'm not in my house. Can you come to Camp Swamp Road off of 9 like as fast as possible? Yeah, what's wrong? I had to shoot somebody. He held a gun at us. He ran us off the road. We stopped to try and get the stuff on the trailer because we were hauling a couch. He got out, pulled a gun, started shooting at us.

and we had to shoot back. Uh, uh, you call 911. Yeah, they're all here. I just, and I've got witnesses that watched them run me off the road, that watched him hold the gun out the window. We have a picture of him holding the gun out the window, and then he pulled, he got, when he was in front of us, he got out the car, aimed, racked the slide, aimed it at us, and started shooting, and we shot back.

And then when he got back in the car, we quit shooting, and then he started shooting again, and we started having to shoot again. I got to be real careful with that because in my jurisdiction weren't investigating agency, so I got to be careful that I'm not showing. I know that. It's self-defense. And we got witnesses that are all saying is self-defense. I just, I'm a fucking nervous, right, dude.

I'll slot out there, but I got to be real careful. You know what I'm saying? Okay. All right. You know, it's just, I just don't understand what in the world was going through its head. I mean, the did. All right. So that was him calling Brandon Strickland.

He is telling Brandon, hey, I just had to shoot somebody. You know, I need you out here right now. And he said, he said, I'll slide out there. So this was the first encounter of him trying to call his favors in for his local law enforcement buddies. Now, who has Brandon, Brittany, in this entire saga? Brandon Strickland is the chief deputy of Horry County Police Department. And what I found interesting is that Boyd, what he tells Strickland of what took place is not matching up to what's on the 911 call. He's telling Strickland that Spivey ran him off the road.

And because they were hauling a couch, which is a third time that we've heard about this dang couch that he's hauling. So it makes you wonder, what's up with that? That's very strange. But anyways, he says that him and Williams had to stop. and try to get their stuff back on the trailer. He made it sound like it was like they run off the road and they got out of the vehicle to go get the couch situated back on the trailer or something. Right.

And he's saying, but Scott got out and pulled out a gun and shot and then they had to shoot back, but he leaves out and put information like they chase him for nine miles, going up to 100 miles an hour, that he pursues Scott down a secondary road and that Scott pulls over and gets out and yells at him to stop following him and to leave him alone before any shots were fired. Yeah. And so. No, that's weird. That is weird.

Yeah. So he's calling his guy here, right? And he's saying, hey, man, you got to come out here. You have to come out here. And this is important for later conversations that we have to where there are personal conversations between these two, to where Brandon ends up not rolling out there, which will understand why he did not later. but Brandon did,

sounds like, send someone out there to make sure that everything was good, but he did not want to kind of muddy the waters with the Weldon Boyd and Brandon Strickland relationship and friendship.

And so at first he's like, well, let me give my pants on. And I think Brandon probably was thinking in his mind like maybe I should not go out here. And he just said in that conversation, just so you know, we are the investigative agency. Now, Nick, what does that mean?

That means they are the ones investigating this case. so we got to be very careful about what I do in this particular. Right. It's their jurisdiction. So they're going to be the ones to investigate it. The only way they would not investigate it is if there was some sort of issue between the victim suspect and in law enforcement or what have you. So in my opinion, at this point, he should have recused himself at that point and said,

hey, you know, never mind, I'll come on out there. support you. You know, we're friends or whatever. But, you know, we're going to have to pass this torch. We're going to have to call Florence County or whomever sled or whoever to come investigate this because now the waters are muddy. Right. Yeah, that's interesting.

All right. Let's listen to some more. As this conversation goes on, it's going to move between the conversation between Weldon and Brandon and family and some others. Listen. They just lost it. Well, I'll tell you what I was told. Well, what I heard not from my people, but from somebody else who knew.

And this is Brandon Strickland. He's talking to it now. Listen. This guy was. He says he must have been a pretty big dude because he said he was Roy. He was on Roy to go back. He might have been having some royd rate. Wow.

Hopefully they do a top screen on them. Yeah, they will. They will. Because originally the, the, the, uh, the coroner's like, And this is all me and you talking. This isn't a county police talking to you, okay? Okay. Originally, they weren't even doing an autopsy on the guy.

I was like, one, just to cover it, in case like a civil suit or something, tries to come down the line just to cover you. Because the autopsy tells you how somebody died. We know how he died. He was shot. Do they know how many times he was hit or anything? They'll do the autopsy that today,

don't know. I was working, I was in the shadows last night. I weren't there, but I was in shadows. But I'm going to say I told Jay to last night. It is one of the hardest things I think I've ever dealt with having a friend of mine involved in something like that. And I can't be here for them. You were there for me. And I fully understood what you were saying.

I mean, it was, and Ken got there very fast. I mean, Ken was with me, me and Bradley pretty quick. Okay. Here's another conversation where Bram, Brandon is talking, I believe, with Weldon about who he sent out there to make sure that this thing was handled properly. Right. And Ken Moss is Boyd's attorney. Yeah.

Okay. They treat you good, though? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was, it was, it was fine. I just wish it didn't have, I just wish it didn't happen. but hopefully they just, it's just all these room.

I mean, I'm still seeing people saying stuff. And it's just like, damn, y'all, I mean, it ain't like I went looking for that. You know, I pulled off the road. He was parked and, I mean, he basically ambushed us. Well, here's the deal, dude. You could have. And before we go any further, now he's telling another story, it sounds like. Yeah, I pulled off the road and he ambushed us.

Yeah. It's a completely different story than the 911 one day. The only thing consistent is that he was hauling the couch. Yes. That comes up every single time. It makes you wonder, what is it couch really? Yeah, going into conspiracy. You know, if he's friends with the, you know, deputy chief, you know, is couch keyword for, you know, you know,

kilos of something. Yeah. Who knows? And here's the thing, too. And I, and this is just speculation. I mean, this is not. Right. I mean, this is a conspiracy podcast. It is.

But when... We can be free. But when he says that, he says, do you know how many shots hit? Yeah. It was like, that's not you just wanting to know because you care so much about this guy. It was you want to know, like... How good did you do? Right.

So you can brag. It's bragging rights for them. Yeah. And real quick before you start it, Brittany, tell them what really happened as far as where the shot was and what happened. Well, what I heard is that he hit him in the back. And that's where the kill shot happened was in Scott Spivey's back. Now, do you think that's in the vehicle where they hit him?

Yeah, that's my question. Was he out on the street or was he in the car? Because he got hit in the back. He was, from what I had heard is that he was like his body was over. the console. Yeah, he was like slumped over. And in the truck. So how do you hit him in the back?

I mean, if you had hit him outside of his truck, he would have fallen, you know, maybe even falling into his truck, but he would have been falling into his truck, like laying on the seat or something like that. It wouldn't have been slopped over the console. I think there's a clip we have that where he talks to Brandon Strickland more on a kind of a foyer requested clip to where he talks about the guy gets out. He's hit, likely hit from Weldon Boyd outside of the vehicle. At one point in time, he climbs back in the vehicle.

And it sounds like once he climbed back in the vehicle, he was struck again by gunfire. But I'm just saying if he got hit in the back, that is so good for the attorney on Spivey side. I mean, initially it was, no, y'all do this autopsy to cover Boyd. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then it's like, okay, well, he was hitting the back. You know, like that, that does not help Boyd at all. And I was, I will say this.

I'll stop right here right quick. But so I pulled up, I just Googled some images of the Scott Spivey crime scene. And, you know, you've got Boyd and I'm guessing Bradley sitting on the back of a trailer. And they are hauling a couch. It is like a wicker type couch. Okay. So real couch. Well, there goes our conspiracy there.

There we go. But he weren't there. I weren't there. Yeah. That's what Strickland said. I weren't there. Yeah. He did say that.

And the interesting thing about this is, though, is that, you know, as we start hearing this, you know, as Weldon Boyd is more comfortable with conversation with whether it be family or Brandon. And we go back to like the fact that he had phone calls recorded that when he turned his phone over, all of these phone calls got foiled, which is nuts to me. But he forgot. Got a love for you, though. Yes, but he forgot.

He recorded all these phone calls. Yeah. Thank goodness. Yeah, that's insane. For sure. For sure. That's insane. Let's listen to some more.

I think he's about to talk to his family and I think he talks to Strickland again. All right. And I talked to Nate last night, too. I mean, I discussed it all with him. And he said that when I talked to you to tell you, he's thinking about you, but not to worry about anything. Because they had to go to him if they were going to charge you for a warrant. You know what I mean?

Okay. and they're not going. And it's going to go to him if they're going to charge anything on a warrant. So don't worry about anything. And Nate is the judge, right? Yeah, I think he's a magistrate. Yeah. He's a magistrate.

Yeah. So, like, okay, if everything's on the up and up, why do you need to make all these phone calls? Yeah. Why do you, I mean, it's a baby? Why are you making a phone calls to let him know that, hey, you don't need to sign a warrant. Like, Judge was getting ready to sign a warrant on you. But I talked to him, and now he's. We're all good.

We're all good. Yeah, we're all good. He said not to worry about it. Yeah, and I think that Horry County tries to say, well, he was just boistering his, like, authority and just saying all these things to make him look bigger and badder and cooler and, you know, talking about Strickland, that he was really just boistering that, you know, he's a cop and he could get things done. But it really would have been the same thing regardless if he was in play or not.

But to me, I don't agree with that. No, I think he was boistering, but I think he was boistering in a way that he really utilized his influence and his connections and not connections. But, I mean, obviously, he's in law enforcement. He is a major part of this investigation at this point. And he made all these calls, which is why he got fired. Because he's in the shadows. Yeah, he's in the shadows. On Boy's behalf.

Yeah. He's just making sure all the right people. He told him. He specifically told him, you know, I wasn't out there, but I was in the shadows. I was basically, I was working. I'm working for you. Basically, I mean, what's the difference in him being there, physically if he's going to be making all these phone calls. You can't, you can't be there physically because it shows impropriety to Boyd,

but yet you can make all these phone calls on his behalf. I mean, it's the same. It's the same as using your title and your authority for Boyd's protection. Absolutely. I agree with that. All right. Here's some more. I don't even think of, I don't even think of it.

It is what it is. I mean, it didn't. It's. I'm okay with it. I mean, you know, Bradley's pretty quiet, but... Who's the guy you were with? That's my buddy, Bradley. Good job.

This is Weldon Boyd's family, okay? So his parents that he's talking to now. It sounded like she said, don't tell Bradley you enjoyed that. Well, if you enjoy it, son, you just need to keep that to yourself. And I wouldn't even tell Bradley that because, you know, You just, I mean, I know y'all friends and everything, but you wouldn't want Bradley to accidentally slip up and tell somebody that you said that. They finished the analysis on both my vehicle and his.

The T.R. All right. Sorry, I got to stop that. He is saying to his parents that he enjoyed this. He enjoyed it. This was fun. This was a fun time. It's like going to Frankie's Fun Park or caroans or Six Flags.

I enjoyed this, which I mean, you know, not in one call. Sounds like that it was a hunt for a mysterious in boss on a video game. Yeah, it almost sounded like I mean, he was hunting Scott. Yeah, I mean, that's what's weird is, I mean, I go back to the weird, the very weird coincidence that is spivey names with the fiance and this guy come up. And I also go back to, I don't think it was something I said. I was going to say this earlier, but if you have connections to law enforcement, like obviously Weldon Boyd did, and this is a conspiracy spectacle here. But what if, like, at one point in time, Weldon Boyd was like, hey, I need to know who my fiance is screwing. I mean, I just want to be like, you know, very raw here.

And so they kind of look up these names and they give him some names. I mean, this is all just speculation. We have no idea. But just say, for example, they give them some names. Scott Spivey, the other Spivey, whatever. Beny. Here's some of the people. Benji.

Here's the people I think that your fiancé is involved with. And because law enforcement can do that. I mean, Nick, you can, you can, you can clarify this, although you can't necessarily it's like kind of. You're not supposed to do that. Yeah. It's frowned upon to like go look in the system and do all this shit, NCICs and whatever. But law enforcement does do that stuff on the back end.

Right. Yeah, you're not, you're absolutely not supposed to share anybody's personal information. I mean, as a law enforcement official, you are entrusted with a lot of different avenues that you can take to, you know, figure out where somebody lives or what they look like or,

you know, information that is not readily available to the public. But although you're not supposed to, I mean, you're also not supposed to, you know, go behind somebody for nine miles and then shoot them in the back. Well, and you're also not supposed to use your title to get people out of murder.

Right. But if he's willing to do that, I mean, yeah, I'm sure he's willing to help Scott out. I mean, point out at some point in time to figure out who his girlfriend or fiancé is sleeping with. Yeah. You know, it's a lot easier to look up somebody's name than it is to lose evidence and cover up a murder. Yeah. And by the way, it's all speculative. We have no idea.

Yeah, we're just speculating. Yeah, I mean, it's just a legend and supposedly. It's all speculation. Hypothetically. It's just a discussion. It's a discussion. But it is interesting. Very interesting.

At the very least that the spivey name comes up with both. It's a coincidence. And in our line of work, we don't believe in coincidences. No, we don't. Typically not. No, I mean, there are definitely some coincidences. I mean, you can somehow meet someone in some weird way that maybe you knew. 10 years ago.

And you see them in a restaurant or a grocery store in some random city. And it's the most random coincidence that you ever see. And that's a coincidence. Yeah. But when things like this are lead to a shooting to where your fiance just broke up with you. And the guy that she, I mean, it's just weird, right? I mean, the same names are involved here. he's also heavily involved in and connected to orie county police i'm not saying that they gave

them names or whatever but maybe they did anyway we definitely know it's possible it's definitely possible all right let's listen to more of this x was never hit once other than the shots that we made through the windshield okay Scott was shooting a springfield XD 45. Okay. That explains the lower round count. That explains the lower round count and the big hole in the tailgate. On top of that, they have significant evidence that Scott, there was shell casings, there

was a significant amount of shell casings outside of the vehicle and significant amount of shell casings inside of his vehicle, which confirms our story that he engaged us from the outside of the truck, got back in his truck, and we quit shooting, and then he started shooting again. So our story is solid. Now, here's where it gets crazy. Remember when he put his head up and we both were starting to shoot again? Yeah. That's when we killed him.

Yeah. You know why he put his head up? Why? He was lifting himself off of the center console where he had another high-capacity magazine that he was trying to get to reload and get back in the fight. Ken told me that I had a horseshoe up my. He said, what are the chances that you get in a shootout and you got five independent witnesses where none of them know you and none of them know each other, all stopped to back up your story. Yeah.

He said that this had to happen on a back road where it was just you, Bradley, and that vehicle, and there was no one else around, he said this would have been a whole different situation. Yeah, I believe so. And Brandon said, just be thankful he wasn't black. Yeah. Just be thankful he wasn't black. Interesting.

Interesting tells from old. Weldon Boyd here. And, you know, he talks about his head popping up. Obviously, that means he went back in the vehicle. He does say significant amount of rounds outside of the truck. He gets back in the vehicle. He pops his head back up. So then they issue kill shots to him.

Well, a couple. So, okay, so Springfield 45. And they said that explains the low round count. But then he says, there's a significant amount of shell casings outside of the vehicle and inside the vehicle. So, you know, does that mean, does that mean that Spivey, you know, reloaded several times? Or does that mean, you know, as an investigator, I want to know what shell casings were found outside of that vehicle. Yeah.

I want to know where Boyd and Bradley were at, you know, in relation to that. And so as Spivey, you got two guys shooting at you. okay Boyd's truck was never hit one time I mean I understand shooting somebody if somebody has a gun you know you don't wait for them to to point at you and start shooting if you feel like they're a threat because it you know action is faster and reaction you know so I want to know where the shell casings are at whose shellcases are where are there are there bullet holes through the tailgate through the the cab of the truck like how was he shot in the back if he was sitting in the truck and then does does boy fully expect him to just sit

there and let two guys shoot at him without reloading if I'm in a gunfight I'm going to keep fighting until I'm dead yeah I'm not going to just sit there and be like well I guess today's my day when I have other firearms somewhere else that I can get well Nick let me ask you this um we heard the 911 call and he goes into this you know the shooting we heard the the rounds shot out i don't know how many times it was but at the very least it was like two minute pause you didn't hear anything 9-1-1 dispatcher was like hey are you there are you there you didn't really hear anything and then you came back and you heard some he said hey give me another mag give me another mag. And then once you heard that about, I don't know, 40 seconds later, you heard what we paused

earlier in the video and said, do you hear that? Sounds like other shots, but it wasn't as pronounced. Those shots in the clip that we listened to, the 911 call, it wasn't as pronounced as the original shots. So if you think about the shots from the driver's side of Weldon Boyd's vehicle to where they were more pronounced. You hear the shots, they're, they're being laid out, and then you hear him say at some point in time,

I need another mag, and then you hear, uh, probably 40 seconds later, you hear something, that's where I pause. I said, do you hear that?

It sounds like more shots. Well, it's very possible that, but it sounded further. But he had told him to, to back it up. And after the initial shots, he backed it up.

And then he got back on the phone. And that's when he had, and that's, and that's, whenever he was asking for more ammo. So it's possible he left his phone with Bradley at the car or truck. And went up to his vehicle. And then went back up to Scott's car.

Yes. Yes. That's what I think because that second set of pops that you hear that is very, it seems distant. It's not the same sounds that you hear in the original 911 call, the call where he is shooting through the windshield. It does not sound that pronounced. when he talks about the magazine and they don't hear him for a while and then like 30 to 40 seconds later

down yeah 40 40 seconds later you hear more little pops like barely i mean you can barely hear them but you hear them did he go up to the vehicle and issue the kill shots we don't know but if to what nick saying is like what were the what were the casings outside of scott spivey's vehicle Was it Scott Spivey's casings, the 45, the XDM 45 or whatever? Weldon Boyd knew exactly which shot was the kill shot because he said he put his head down and when he came back up, I shot. Yeah. All right. So here is some of the deep conversations that we're about to hear.

Now, we've heard everything. We heard the 911 calls. We have heard the conversations with Weldon Boyd's family. We actually heard some of the initial conversations. with Brandon Strickland. But let's listen to some deep conversations that, unfortunately, for Weldon Boyd, was recorded and came out. And here are those calls, and they are in segments. So we're just going to keep playing them as they go.

And then we will comment on these after the fact. Listen. Well, I appreciate you. And, well, it ate my ass up, dude. I couldn't be there because I'm going to tell you when you called me, I jumped up and started put my clothes on. I was like, wait a fucking minute.

I don't need to go there. Yeah, because I didn't want to put you in a spot and I didn't have your dad's number and I didn't want to call you back to get your dad's number because I didn't know what you had going on at the time. I wanted to call your dad

and be like, hey, look, we got him. He's fine. No, we, I understood and I mean, it all made sense to me. I just, well, you know, I'm a friend that I always be there for you And I don't want you to look at it as Dan Brandon didn't even come to me, but I did it for you. No, that never even crossed my mind.

I mean, I fully understand everything. And it just, I don't know, it's just not how I expected my Saturday ago. That's for sure. Here's what you got to realize, and I don't mean this for the other guy, meaning it for you, but sometimes bad shit happens to good people. And you can't control it. And, you know, this guy puts you in a bad situation. you're a good person and you have to do what you had to do.

So it's like this right here, you got a lot of people that love you and think the world of it, and you've got to go home at the end of the day and be with your family. So you did everything you had to do to do that, and you'll be fine. There'll be people who are going to run their mouth, man. Like I said, the best thing you can do is just not make any comments.

If the media reaches out to you, I would say I declined to I declined to comment don't put nothing on social media about it just let it just let it sit back because all right I'm going to pause here for a second um Brittany and nick what are you hearing in these conversations between Weldon and Boyd and Brandon Strickland I mean is is this a coaching is this saying I was going to say coaching yeah like what does this what does this sound I mean it does it sound like it does it sound like like he's an innocent guy, a victim? Well, I mean, you don't need to be making a bunch of comments. You don't, I mean, I mean, calls. You don't need to be making a bunch of calls. And if everything was on the up and up, I just, that's just where I'm at. Like, you know, why do you have to call your guys?

Why do you have to call Jimmy the prosecutor and tell him the deal? And, you know, why do you have to have your guys coming? and, you know, call the magistrate if, I mean, it's just, I don't know. And I'm wondering at this point, like, how long after was this conversation? This was the next morning. Yeah. So it's the next morning. So at this point, does he even know what Boyd has done?

Does he, has he even heard that he was chasing him for nine miles that they were, you know, speeding after this guy? Or does he think only what Boyd has told him that we pulled over? on the side of the road. This guy got mad. He pulled over. He pulled out. Rack his gun and started shooting at me.

I mean, there was no, I mean, how much of an investigation can be done in less than 24 hours? I mean, but to that point, right, you have this situation where Weldon Boyd is calling his boys. He's calling him the morning after. And you hear this conversation that is, it sounds like, hey, look, dude, we have you. Don't worry, bro. Right. Don't worry about it. You're good.

We're not going to. get a warrant on you. They got to go to Nate for that. Like, I got you. I was in the shadows. Yeah, and we don't even care what happened.

We don't even actually give a shit. We don't care about the Spivey family. Like, we got you. Yeah, we don't care what happened. We just want to make sure you're good. And no matter who this guy is, we don't care.

But Nick, yeah, we don't care. I want your truck and I want that ring. So we're good. Yeah. And Nick, back to your point, like, how does this transpire like this?

I mean, you know, if, We had talked about this the other day where Orie County is different than Sheriff's Department's, right? They're not elected officials technically? Yeah, I don't think the head of the department. I don't think it's an elected official. I think it's appointed just like a regular police chief.

They've done away with a traditional sheriff's office like you have in the rest of the state. Now, okay, let me ask you this. If you had to choose between who would be the most corrupted, whether it be a city department or county. I know that sounds nuts to even ask you that question, but who would be most likely to be corrupt in that situation? Definitely. So, you know, with a city,

you have the city answers to the police chief would answer to the mayor and city council and, you know, county administrator or city administrator. But in the county, when you have a sheriff, they are an elected official, they essentially don't answer to anyone. Like they are it. They are the top.

They are the highest elected official in the county. So, you know, granted this, I don't think he's elected. I need to research a little bit more, but I don't think he's elected. I think it's an appointed position. I think he does have a little more, he has the answer to a few more people. But, I mean, you still, you know, as long as, they're doing their job, then, I mean, I don't see any reason why it would be any different than, let's say, the sheriff, you know, covering for void.

So a good example. This is like, Corey County Police, how are they different? Are they answering to the county council? So they would answer this. So they are a county police department. They would answer to, I'm assuming the county administrator and a county council. Okay. Versus, you know, city to city council and city administrator.

Okay. So, you know, typically the sheriff, if an elected official, they are yet. The buck stops with them. They get their money from the county council and the county administrator, but every other decision is up to them because they're the highest elected official in the county. Okay. That makes sense. All right.

let's play out the rest of this. There you go. Somebody tried to take it out of context. I mean, it's going to make it worse. Yeah. I'm just going to stay quiet. And I guess my truck,

they got it impounded. It's got a bag of keys in it that I need. But they said once it was impounded, it's there. So I guess I'll get that stuff at Tuesday. Yeah, what they'll have to do, and I'm sure they'll probably explain to you.

They'll have to do a search warrant on it. And the search one would be just to collect the evidence out of it. Even though you haven't done anything, I'll have to follow the step by step, because if this did family comes up and says, oh, it is, this was a shitty investigation or blah, blah, boy, boy, they can show that they followed every step. I'll, uh, they'll get you a truck. How bad your truck messed up? I heard you, I heard you went full gangster out of the windshield. Yeah, I heard you went full gangster out of the windshield, bro. It was awesome. We love it. Right. And to the Spivey family, you know, I hope that y'all say, hey, this was a shitty investigation.

Yeah. And they have, by the way. They're suing. Oh, good. And Weldon Boyd. And in a civil case. Let me talk to Brittany for just a minute because this is where the investigation gets really bad. And I want Brittany to just give us an idea of what happens.

Okay. So after all this is happening, Vascovy comes over and says, hey, he writes a look on his pad, act like a victim for the camera. Yeah. He's even trying to mute his microphone. How do you mute it? What do you do? How do we get these things off? They're trying to help them.

But after everything is said and done, how do they transport Scott Spivey? Well, okay, for one, about that, what we just heard, they made a comment about taking out a context. Well, thankfully, we've getting all these phone calls and all of these body cam videos. So we're getting the full context of the corruption. But as far as the body being transported, he was taken in his vehicle for, I think he was in there for five hours and 80 degree temperatures. So they said that they were going to do that for preserving everything. Like they towed the vehicle with him in it?

They towed the vehicle with him in it. And he was in there for five hours sealed up and taken to the impound lot. But yet they said that they did that to preserve evidence and, you know, to make sure everything is accounted for. But his sister still had to call three separate times for them to come and retrieve evidence that was left in his truck. So make that make sense. But you're not preserving anything. Like you're moving the vehicle. Stuff is shifting around.

the body is shifting around and and you know like I mean Nick does this does this ever happen if you are on a case and somebody's murdered in their car do you transport a dead body in the car to the impound and then lay the body out in the police impound on the floor no it happens right there it happens right there on vehicle accidents where people aren't shot in the back so why would it happen you know that doesn't make any sense like you know your evidence is changing like I say if you are towing, especially towing it with the body and the vehicle, you know, he's not going to be in the same position.

It's not going to line up. Who knows how many shell casings you lost on the side of the interstate going back or to the side of the road going back to the county impound lot. Like your evidence changes the more you move around. You know, you take a picture. You move a little bit. You know, you take a picture of all the shell casings there. You collect the shell casings.

You do everything there on the scene that you can do there. the only time you move it is when things are done and everything else can be done. You know, the vehicle can be searched later after it's inventoried, after you've got pictures of everything, after you've collected everything you need to collect that is imperative to the investigation. And I said that they did that because there was a storm coming in or rain coming in or whatever. But, I mean, do these departments not have tents? Yeah, that's why they have canopies.

Like, I mean, it doesn't. doesn't make sense to me. Nick, let me ask you. With that situation, I mean, we talk about law enforcement and kind of their investigative practices. Do you feel like law enforcement is well trained in crime scene investigations enough to where they need to be? There's always room for extra training and improvements everywhere.

It doesn't matter how long you've been in. But, I mean, a lot of times, you know, there's under-trained people. and without knowing any further, it sounds like, you know, they're just bad decisions there. It almost sounds like law enforcement already had their mind made up and it's probably because of the calls that were made

to the judge and to the investigator that went out there and to the suspect in the case that, you know, the investigation was skewed. Honestly, the ball was dropped with the 911 call with that dispatcher. I mean, that's when the ball stopped.

being, I mean, like, that's when it started being dropped. Like, it should have been stopped. The pursuit should have been stopped then. And I mean, it's just, it's been a tragedy from the beginning. Yeah. And by the way, I've got, I've got a friend and they'll probably kill me for talking about it, you know, both sides of this story. But I've got a friend that was chasing after someone for a DUI.

He saw someone that was DUI, called Dispatch. and from my understanding, I've only gotten one side of the store. From my understanding, he called and he said, hey, I'm following this guy. We're riding down the road. We're not going super fast, but I'm in my car.

I can catch up, whatever. Dispatch never tells him to stop the chase. Okay. When the sheriff's deputy gets to him, the sheriff's deputy pulls him over and says, dispatch told you to stop. Why didn't you stop? He was the one.

And meanwhile, the DUI gets away. He was the one. Wow. Okay, this is just a DUI. This isn't even, you know, it should have happened this way. It should have said, the dispatch should have said, stop chasing this guy. You were putting yourself in harm's way.

You know, at very least cautioned him on it. Yeah. No, I agree. I want to point out this too. There is a new article from WBTV. And it says, North Myrtle Beach business owner who shot killed Scott Spivey seeks immunity and money from Spybee's family. And this is court documents that have come out now.

So this is Ori County, North Myrtle Beach business owner who shot and killed Scott Spivey during a 2023 road rage incident is seeking immunity and compensation from Spyby's family. And there are court documents that show this. So it says Spivey was involved in altercation, obviously we've talked about. the motion is to dismiss Foley's lawsuit and could grant both Boyd and Williams immunity from criminal charges. And they also seek compensation for attorney and court fees as well as loss of income. And now Oregon and a police report showed Spivey had allegedly initiated the shooting before he was killed.

And however, about a week later, the 15th Circuit solicitor Jimmy Richardson asked the South Carolina Attorney General to review the shooting after Boyd, who owns a second. booies on the boulevard in North Myrtle Beach. So what they're saying is is that Weldon Boyd has initiated a counterclaim on this lawsuit from Scott Spivey's family to where they say, hey, we want to be immunized into we do not want to be charged in any way, shape, or form in criminal charges going forward. And we are going to have you pay our attorney fees and loss of income from anything that we have accrued during this investigation.

I am not an attorney. I do not know how this goes, but how in the hell does a counterclaim on a civil lawsuit grant you immunity in some type of criminal charge? Yeah, if they want to reopen it and have a special prosecutor. I have never heard that. Like, I don't know how you claim immunity unless, I don't know. I can't think of anything where you would have immunity from a civil suit, especially something like that where you chase someone. Well, especially whenever they're finding new evidence. Like, I mean, they just found new.

evidence of the dash cam footage is from the deputies. So, I mean, when they're uncovering new evidence, like, how are you going to get immunity? Well, and you also have to think the investigative agency, Ory County Police, is not the one that is finding this evidence. It is the family of spivey. It is their own investigation overturning this evidence. And was there a video in what? Wooden Boyd's truck. What do we know about that?

I mean, he had some type of video recording device in his truck. Has that come out in any FOIA request or any release of information? I do not know. I do know that it was four months after this incident before they got their hands on Boyd's phone and his iPad that was recording. If you guys look at the picture of where they shot out their own windshield in the middle, there's a little stand right there where there's supposed to be like an iPad. And I believe he had an iPad that had recording evidence of the incident of that night. And it is disappeared.

Yeah. And there was a press conference, which I don't know if we want to go into that. We'll figure it out in a second. But there was a press conference to where they mislabeled dash can. video seven videos that orie county police mislabeled and they said well we we didn't know where they were for two years and now all the sudden there's new shown up yeah now all of a sudden we know where they where these videos are so i'm looking at the i'm looking at google images and when you said that uh about the pictures so there's a picture here and it looks like a crime scene photo it's got

the tape on there so you have you have a grouping there right at the driver and a grouping right there, the passenger where they both were shooting out of the windshield, evidently. And then you can clearly see this full-size iPad in the middle. And it is still there in this picture. Okay. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Yeah. And they did and do anything with that until four months after the incident.

So was he recording the whole thing on that? Do we know? He says that he was not, but in recorded conversation with his mom, he mentions, he mentions it in a recorded conversation with his ex-fiance. He mentions it. Yeah, that he recorded the whole thing and he has proof that he was on the defense is what he was saying. Well, and then if that's the case, then why are you not coming out with that? Yeah.

You know, why are you facing all of this public scrutiny? And you can clear yourself and post that publicly if that's the case. Yeah. I mean, I would. Well, we have something that would clear me, you best believe. it's going to be coming out more of these pictures uh so evidently spivey's tailgate was up so again that question's you know the big question you know how was he shot in the back you would have to go through you know two layers of tailgate plus the bed of the truck plus the cab of the truck and i don't

know if it was a four door truck or what but then you it looks like maybe a four door truck so you would have to go through all that to shoot him in the back yeah and that doesn't make sense to me either Well, let's listen to this last about 40 seconds of personal phone calls. I don't know if he hit the truck or not, but he shot. I mean, he got out. He racked it. He did some kind of weird matrix move with his right arm and started shooting. And then we started shooting.

And I could see his shirt rippling. So then he crawled back into the truck. And we quit. When he got back in the truck, I couldn't see him anymore. We stopped. And then after like three or four seconds, he starts shooting again. So we just laid into the back of the cab and I guess he died in the truck.

Yeah. I don't know if he hit the truck. Yeah. So he's saying here that, you know, he crawled back in the truck, which is obviously why they found him in the truck, hunched over his console. But, I mean, with the investigation, like, Nick, I don't even know how you even suss this. out like how do you know who shoots first in this situation like how do you do that investigative work to where you like you're never you're never going to know who shot first it's always going to come down to the witnesses and you know any kind of investigation whether it be the the video to

end dash cameras um you know ring cameras or whatever you piece all that together to try to figure out who shot first um but again i mean if spivey is outside of his vehicle even if he's holding the gun up in his in the air in my opinion opinion, you know, boy would be justified if he had a legal right to be there to shoot first. Because, you know, again, action is faster than reaction. So, you know, you don't wait until somebody's, you know, shooting you before you shoot them if they are an active threat. You know, if they have a firearm in their hand and are, you know, facing you, then they are obviously a threat. Yeah. Yeah, it's just so strange because, you know, obviously you have the spivey family that have has lost a loved one.

And they want answers. I mean, they want to know what happened exactly. Well, and none of this would have even came out unless his sister, like, pushed the issue. They were going to just have an open and shut case saying this was self-defense, let it go. We're going to tow the body for five hours in a car and lay it out in an impound a lot. and then we'll take it from here and hopefully they don't have any questions. Yeah, I mean, it has been open.

It's worked for it. For the last year and a half, what was September 23? Yeah. You know, here we are in, you know, 25 and it's just now coming out. I hate to bring this up, but man, we've had so many people based on, they know that we have a podcast and we are based out of Spartanburg County that have, you know, after our episode with Chuck Wright and Spartan Rock County and so many people that had death investigations that were ruled suicide.

and I go back to this all the time. And I can't help but to say this towards the end of this podcast because so many people have to reach out and said, hey, if you talk to Nick or you talk to someone like, please tell our story. Please like tell Nick our story or tell someone, especially in light of Chuck Wright and the potential corruption and all that stuff. Like should our cases be reinvestigated? And I know we talk about corruption.

all the time. And it's like, you know, how much does county departments brush shit under the rug based on, you know, who's the sheriff? They want to make sure that, you know, their, I guess, record is the best it can possibly be. But we look at this case, for example. It's like, hey, guys, we got you. We want to make sure that this is a self-defense thing rather than a murder. And especially since we have connections, we've talked about the, before with the Spartan County stuff. Do you think that there is stuff brushed under the rug in large capacity in Sheriff's Departments?

I mean, it's very possible. It's very possible. And to anybody that wants their case opened, I mean, there is limited that you can do with a case that's already been closed because once that evidence is gone, the evidence is gone. And then you have to think about, you know, now you're looking at, you know, how well did the investigator write, you know, their narratives and that sort of thing. you can't really go back and do a more thorough investigation.

You can just offer your opinion based on the evidence that's provided in that case. So, you know, anybody that wants their case re-looked at, it doesn't have to be the same agency. Send it to another agency. Send it to SLED. Maybe they'll look at it, you know, if there's enough evidence or send it to an independent agency. You know, that's always a possibility. Yeah.

All right. So with the Scott Spivey thing, do we think that this investigation can, be reopened and how does that happen? Like, is this a possibility for the Spivey family? I think that there is a very good possibility that the investigation could be opened again, especially since, you know, you have the conversations with Boyd and Strickland. Strickland. That, you know, obviously there, that is a skewed, you know, outcome already.

Just from the very get-go, as soon as, hey, we got all these guys out here, I need you to come out here. Okay. I've got a judge out here already. I need you to come out here. So obviously there was an issue there. I really feel like, you know, another agency should have handled that. You know, I'm not exactly sure what the process would be to open that investigation.

But I think it needs to be. No, I do too. And Brittany, what do you think? I mean, do you think that Scott Spivey deserves answers in the family? I mean, is this something for you that like when you get involved in this, does it seem right to you? I mean, does this whole situation seem it's on the up and up?

Obviously, you have all the corruption on the outside with law enforcement and all this. I think that's why so many people do not trust government in whole today. No, absolutely not. The whole situation is a tragedy and what happened to him is horrific. And my heart goes out to this five family.

And what's also heartbreaking to me is just the loss of trust with the law enforcement, you know, for the community, for other honest law enforcement, you know, with their fellow deputies, they've been put in a bad situation, you know, in itself. And so, no, I mean, I really definitely think that it's not on the up and up, and it definitely needs to be looked into, and which is important to have more eyes and ears on situations like this, so there can be more accountability.

So that other agencies, so sled, so the Attorney General's office, no. that they're being held accountable, as well as the sheriff's office or police departments or whatever. Yeah. And I want to say, too, for any of the Spybee family members that are listening to this podcast, we do, you know, reach out to you guys in prayer and support and what, and look, we know this is a very bad situation. You lost a loved one.

That's a very hard thing to deal with. It's a very hard thing to get through. And listen, at the end of day, we're not judges. were not even attorneys. And so for Boyd and his family, we don't know for sure whether you are in the wrong or not. We're speculating here. And we're not just speculating. And for a good cause.

I mean, it's shady. Like what he said on the phone, what Brandon Strickland said on the phone with shady and they need to be held accountable. I mean, I'm not even going to sharecoat it. No, I get it. No, I get it. And I totally agree. And I think that, you know, my heart lays with Scott Spidey's family because I don't, you know, they just thought, oh, yeah, he knows the police.

This is going to be swept under the rug. It's going to be an open and shut case. You guys are all good. This is self-defense. Don't worry about it. Don't go on social media. But guess what he does? He goes on social media.

He stirs up stuff and people stir up things. And there is a lot of stirring going on right now. And what makes me so mad and heartbroken is Scott and Spivey's family were not allowed on scene. They didn't know where. Scott was being taken, they didn't know what was going on, but yet his attorney, Boyd's attorney, was all over that crime scene. It sounds like Mark.

No. No. That's wrong. And the only reason I'm saying this is because, I mean, you know, if you look at it from the perspective of like, you know, there's going to be people that are on Weldon Boyd's side to listen to us and they say, hey, you know, he has this perspective. And we get that. But at the same time.

But they need to reevaluate. Yeah. Well, well, that's what I'm saying. We are hearing the evidence as we hear it. Right. And so. Yeah.

And the evidence is facts. It's true. It's the real thing. It's not speculation. Whenever he gets on the phone and says that he had a blast. Yeah. There's something going on. That's facts.

That's coming from Weldon's on mouth. And if you're friends with him and you hear him say that after taking someone's life, you need to be re-evaluating your friendship. Yeah. And Bradley was quiet because he knew. Because he knew. They were in the role. Yeah.

You know, that's why he said in, you know, his conversation. And if he's still friends with Weldon, he probably is for sure. Well, he shouldn't be. He shouldn't be. Well, I mean, but that's the thing. I was saying,

you have these law enforcement officials that are friends of people and they're going to, you know, unfortunately for him, you know, he lost his career and he's probably done with law enforcement for us. Three other guys coming up that are going to lose their careers as well. But you know what? That's a choice they made when they chose a,

they chose what they did over integrity. Yeah. Yeah. That was their choice and I don't feel sorry for them either. And I don't feel sorry for Weldon Boyd's family who's sitting there making excuses. Well, you don't need to be telling people that you enjoyed that. Yeah, you had a good time.

No. Like how do you raise someone like that? No. Yeah. That's interesting. To have no remorse for human life. life. Yeah.

And to just take it. And the thing is, is this man is still on the street. He is reckless. And he killed somebody and gun them down over a break check. And he's still on that street driving up and down that road. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.

Where is the accountability? No, there is done. No, there is done. And I'm sorry. I'm getting. No, no, no. No, no. But you have good reason to.

And I feel like you've. feel for the victims and which I'm I'm so glad to hear that especially you know of a wife as a you know of a detective somebody that's in the police department that you have that integrity that you know right is right and wrong is wrong and that making excuses and no accountability is unacceptable yeah yeah yeah it's a weird situation and and the crazy thing about this whole scenario is is that this happens all over the country all the time and it's weird because we've done this for so long and we've had so many people reach out to us. And although this is in South Carolina, Scott Spivey or the Chuck Wright thing or whatever,

we've had people reach out to us and we've talked about some of these things. And it always seems to be the same story. There's always corruption. There's always these connections to where the people that are doing bad in some ways in these corrupted agencies are protected. And we have to somehow stop that. And I think that Nick, that's why I'm glad that we had the Spartaner County episode with you because you kind of told your story on that perspective of Chuck Wright.

And, you know, Chuck Wright in Spartanburg County in South Carolina has been like a god for so many years. And now he is somewhat in some ways being held accountable potentially. We don't know for sure what will happen with that. But at the very least, we got to hold people accountable that are being corrupted, that especially when they hold power and control over people. That is the main purpose of our podcast we've always had is like, if you have more power than the general public,

you have to be held to a higher accountability. Yeah, but I am going to interrupt you with this. I think law enforcement deserves a raise for sure. Well, they do for sure. And here's the thing. What I want to say is like law enforcement in general we have to have, but we have to have leadership. Well, and you have to have training.

And I think that's what we're lacking is the, lack of training a lot of times. Yeah, law enforcement should be held to a higher standard. You know, if you're going to take someone's freedom, then you need to be doing the things that you need to be doing correctly. You need to be having people there checking you. You don't need to have unchecked power. Yeah.

Well, I got into a road rage the other day and somebody blowing the horn at me because I didn't turn or I was in the turn lane or whatever. Whoever was in the right, wrong, whatever. You know, you know what I ended up doing? I ended up driving off. I didn't follow behind them nine miles and then chase her down. and then shoot her in the back, you know. No, that's true.

Yeah, you have to make it responsible for your own actions. Yeah, you have to be responsible for your own actions. You're exactly right. And just who is well-done boy that people, so many people will be willing to put their careers on the line to protect him? I don't get that either. Yeah, that's weird. Well, I mean, you think about this.

Bowies on the beach, you know, it is a ocean boulevard bar. you know, that location in general is not cheap for sure. I mean, you know, there's money. There's money that's involved in that. And, you know, any of the people that own bars in Myrtle Beach, I mean, that's prime real estate. You're talking about like mega, probably multi millions of dollars worth of real estate value. But it comes like this again, like I said at the beginning of the podcast. It's great to be a community.

and I think it is very important for law enforcement to be a part of the community and to get along with the community. But that does not mean give favors. No, absolutely not. Yeah. Well, guys, that's going to do it for this episode because we just wanted to talk about the Scott Spybee case and just talk about the potential corruption in Ory County. I think for you guys that are listening, whether you're in South Carolina or not,

I think you should reach out to whether the department or the council members, or whether the South Carolina state government, people need to reopen this case. This is a problem that we have across the nation, is a problem that we have across the world. Oftentimes we talk about globalism. We talk about all of the issues that kind of involve us not only as American citizens,

but humans, people that live in this world, people that are influenced by world governments or whether it be corruption in a much larger scheme. but when we kind of dive down to some of this lower stuff, which we say lower stuff, but you know, you have a family, the Spivey family that are highly affected by this situation. And this is what so many people do not trust government for. And we have to bring new leaders into power in place. But I do think that we have to have leadership that is for the people, not their power, not their, not their authority, not their corruption.

and I go back to, like I said, the episode we had about Spartanour County, this got Spivey episode in particular. We have this across the nation and we got to do something to change that. And we do pray and we are with the Spivey family. The Boyd situation, I mean, hopefully it gets into a court of law. We are not judges. We are not juries. I at the very least think that a jury should have heard this case to where a jury of peers could have

decided what is right and what is wrong versus, yes, we are four people on this podcast, but there should have been at least eight or nine that listened to all the evidence to say, okay, what is the actual outcome of what happened that day? And in my opinion, I think that Spivey was the victim in this case. And if you listen to everything we've played out tonight, it doesn't sound necessarily like Spivey was the one that was chasing Weld and Boyd. He wasn't chasing him for nine miles.

He was not the one that was Spive was not the one instigating this necessarily, at least from what we heard. We don't know for sure. We got to have answers. And we hope that someone reopens this case to at least let a jury hear out the evidence. Do you guys agree with this? I do agree with that. And I will just say

that the Spivey family is asking for a fair and honest investigation. And if Weldon Boyd did nothing wrong, then that should not be a hard ask. Is all I got to say. If Bradley Williams did nothing wrong, that should not be a hard ask. So that's all I have to say about it.

If they did nothing wrong, then what's wrong with an honest and fair investigation instead of just taking their word for it? If the facts of the case presented themselves accurately to begin with, then it'll be the same outcome. and honestly declare my name, I would want to honest and fair investigation. Yeah, I'd be like, hey, investigate it, go for it.

Please, and here's the dash cam video. But instead, instead, we're getting protection from civil litigation. Yeah. And they may want to protect him because of tourists and all that. But if people do not feel that they're getting protection and representation and have safety in the law enforcement there, then people are not going to be. going to want to go to Myrtle Beach.

Yeah. They're not going to want to go to Ory County. No, I agree. Myrtle Beach is somewhere that used to be amazing, and there's a lot of people that don't want to go there anymore, and I hate that because... Is the sex trafficking capital or whatever? They say, yeah, for sure. Who knows?

I'd be lying if I said I wanted to go. I don't want to go. Yeah. All right, guys, well, that'll do it for this episode. We just wanted to kind of talk about this. We do encourage all of you to go investigate this case for yourself. We do pray for the family of Scott Spivey. It sucks that this situation happened.

It's very unfortunate. And unfortunately, he does not have a story to tell anymore. And guys, until next time, we love you. Peace out. Peace out, guys. Most of the times I think like beside you is I try to raise just I see that phase and it shivers it all. It's just for a minute.

I'd fall asleep and not dream about I'd admit it I'm out of ideas I don't know if I'll call severs hers it hurts