Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - Who’s Really in Charge? Israel, Iran & Trump’s Peace Talks with Maze Love

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

Tonight we’re joined by Maze Love, one of the top geopolitical Space hosts on X, to break down the escalating crisis between Israel, Iran, Lebanon, and the United States.Trump says peace talks with Iran are still on the table, but Israel’s strikes in the region may be putting those talks at risk. Iran says it is responding to Israeli escalation. Israel says it is defending itself. And now America is being pulled closer to the center of the conflict.So the question tonight is simple: who’s really in charge? Is Trump steering this toward diplomacy, is Netanyahu pushing the region toward a wider war, is Iran preparing to hit back harder, or is the war machine once again moving faster than the people claiming to control it?Visit our merch store

You're a guilt trip feeding me with all these lies. I feel sick. You're a bad choice that I made five years ago with some party in New York. Are you texting me to tell me that I'm shit? Why are you still going on about things I never did? Maybe you can't see that I'm hard to home. I know I'm a basket case. Hello and welcome to Investigator's podcast.

I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. tonight we're opening with breaking developments out of the Middle East where Israel struck Beirut, Lebanon, and Iran is now fired missiles towards Israel. In response, Israel says it was targeting Hezbollah after fire into northern Israel. Iran says the Beirut strike crossed the red line and now the whole region once again is sitting on the edge of a much wider war. And what makes this even more serious is that President Trump is reportedly telling Prime Minister Netanyahu not to strike back, although they did, warning that another round could destroy negotiations

with Iran. So the question tonight is not just who fired first or who claimed self-defense. The real question is whether anyone in power is actually trying to stop the war before civilians across Israel, Lebanon, and Gaza are killed yet again. Guys, welcome to the show. It is June the night, 2026. The name of the song is I still have my friends by Loving Calibur. And we have an amazing guest on the show tonight by the name of Mays, Love. We've had her on before. Mays is great. she's been a friend to us for probably two or three years now. She's one of the biggest ex space host there is on X. So when you're talking about like Mario and just basically all of the biggest names on X,

Maze is usually either to host or co-host. She holds her shit, especially as a woman on X with all these dudes talking shit and giving their opinions. Maze is the girl that holds the line, man. She's good. And so we're actually recording this intro after we did. the interview with Mays because she had kind of a pretty tight window with everything going on. She's literally doing spaces all the time, especially about, you think about just today, Sherry.

You had the Carmelo Anthony verdict. You have the now strikes that the United States is hitting on Iran because of the Apache helicopter that went down, which we talk about. Oh, Belfast, too, the potential beheading. A Muslim immigrant beheading. Well, hold on. We don't know that he's a Muslim. He's from he's from Sudan. Yeah.

Northern Africa. Likely probably a Muslim, but we don't know for sure. Either way. And it was a potential trying to kill somebody by beheading them in the middle of the street while people are recording and doing nothing to stop him. Yeah, it was nuts, right? It was absolutely bad shit crazy. I watched the video and I was like, man, this guy's literally trying to behead the guy.

There have been reports that the guy has died. I have not for sure validated that. but I mean there's been a lot of people that said that, you know, he was. I'm ex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I don't know if the guy's dead or not either way. We might talk about that because Belfast right now is kind of burning down to some

degree. And it sounds like the Patriots, the Patriots they call themselves in Belfast, Ireland are burning down the immigration communities, the communities where they're housing a lot of these people. There are basically townhome areas to where the Ireland government, the Irish government, is putting all these people. And so we were watching earlier that part of these places were burning down. There were cars burning in the streets. Buses, you name it.

Apartment buildings on fire. Like everything is on fire. And I would imagine it's probably going to get worse at night. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So on this episode, though, we talk with Mays about the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, you know, especially with everything that's come out when, you know, you hear the Pentagon saying one thing.

You hear the Israel potentially is the biggest. national security threat to the United States right now. And then they say we're going to combine military. Yeah. Like how is like this makes no sense. Well, it sounds like that Israel is is desperately trying to spy on our top U.S. officials, especially in the ongoing peace negotiations between the United States and Iran. And I think it sounds like more to me that they're trying to spy on top U.S. officials to

try to sabotage those peace talks because what it seems like Israel wants is not peace. they want ongoing war. And, you know, it's something I said with Mays on this show, but, you know, there's, there's, there's two things going on here. You have, you have Benjamin Netanyahu, which desperately wants the war to continue for his political power, for his political life, and also his life in general as a citizen, if they actually prosecute him after he gets out of office. Because right now, Israel is kind of operating under wartime scenarios to where prime minister

B.B. Netanyahu can continue to operate with. impunity without being prosecuted, without any of this, even though many of the politicians in the Knesset of Israel are trying to get this dude behind bars because they all know about his corruption. They all know about his funding to Hamas to the tune of $36 plus million per month. And by the way, the reason why we know that is because Bibi Netanyahu was deposed. and in his deposition with, I guess, Knesset slash Israeli authorities,

he had to admit some of this stuff. And so he knows that for his political life and his life in general, this war has to continue. Now, on the other hand, President Donald Trump knows that for his political life and really just to save the Republican Party and quit dividing the Republican Party as much as it is right now, he has to get out of this war. he has to stop looking so overtly in, I guess you can say, solidarity with Israel as they are killing civilians across the Middle East, as they are continuing to drag the United States into a further ongoing situation in the Middle East. So Trump and Bibi Netanyahu have two very different political outcomes.

B.B. needs the word to continue. Trump desperately needs it to stop. And so the question arises, who actually is in power, who's actually in control? and when we talk to Mace and I we go pretty deep on some of this stuff so just hear it out through the entirety it's about an hour

long interview I guess I can say but before we get into that I did want to say that Sherry and I are probably going to start a YouTube channel soon where we're going to be sharing things that are like fun right Sherry and I work a lot when it comes through podcasts and all that stuff

talking about bad stuff all the time stuff that's just tough to talk about honestly and so we're going to start doing some things that are adventurous you know boating on the lake out in the wilderness doing things like that and once we do start that channel or that kind of media outlet will definitely let you guys know but i think it's something that we decided that we have to do for our own sanity and the reason i'm bringing this up is because in this world especially for people that listen to podcasts like ours where our job is to call out all the corruption call out everything that's really going on in the world

so that you are the most aware that you can possibly be. It is also important to escape that. It is important to try to find an outlet to where it's like you're not consistently and constantly consuming yourself with the negative in this world. And I say that not just because this is kind of what we do primarily. And it's something that we have to kind of envelop our lives in. but I do encourage you guys as well, people that are awake, people that want to know everything, people that have to know everything because they feel like if they don't know what the closest

to the truth actually is that you're missing out. I do encourage you, though, if you are one of those people to go out and figure out ways to escape, like whether it's a day or two, go out on a lake, go on a hike, spend time with your kids away from your falling, away from social media. I think that's very important today for your mental health. Um, because look, the reality is everything that we talk about on this show, I think is extremely important in our lives because this is our generation. This is when we're growing up.

This is when we're living. And one day, everything that we're talking about on this show and what mainstream media is talking about is going to be in history books, maybe if it ever actually makes history books. But in my opinion, I think we're living history. You know, I was before I, we came on the show, you have all of these people in front of the Capitol today. David Grush, various congressmen, men and women, they deposed or I guess you can say interviewed under oath the foreign Columbia president about the Virginia episode or I guess you can say UFO, UAP thing to where that girl had part of her face ripped off.

Right. And he basically said, yeah, we had non-human entities. We found. We found the craft. We found non-human entities that did all this show. we're living in a time that is almost unbelievable. I mean, it's crazy. And I think that we're lucky to be alive in this time for sure.

But all I'm saying is, guys, is that just make sure that you take your mental health seriously. Get out, escape. And that's why I told Sherry. Ground yourself. Ground yourself like I do. But that's why I told Sherry, I said, you know, when we do what we're planning on doing, we're going to start a YouTube channel. We're not going to start a YouTube channel for what we're doing now.

We're going to start a YouTube channel for going out, exploring, adventuring. I mean, maybe we'll do some, like, ghost stuff and, like, some haunted stuff and some fun stuff. But we want it to be a fun, a fun place that you can check out Sherry and I in a different environment, not to where we're always talking about things that are so controversial. But at the same time, I feel like the conversations that we had tonight with May's Love and the conversations we've had for years. They're very important. Very important conversations. Not everyone will always agree for sure.

and I just want you guys to know, though, that we're here. We've been here for years. And our only goal is not to gaslight you. We're not being paid by a political party. We're not being paid to be influenced or to influence you. We're literally doing our very best to tell you the truth. And if there's anything that should tell you that is, you know, like for example, if you guys have listened to us for any amount of time, like Sherry's family is Jewish.

She's come from this Jewish family. She is Jewish herself. She has Jewish blood. And so if you guys have listened for like three or four or five years, we have been in this process of just learning, understanding, acknowledging, deciphering what's true, what isn't. And there are some people out there for sure that they only care about Trump or Biden. And but I think it's deeper than that. Yeah, but there's also some people that only care about hating Jews.

Well, for sure. Yeah. I mean, well, I mean, there's definitely people that only care about hating whites. I mean, I think we kind of saw that today with Carmelo and Anthony. I'm just talking about with the Iran and Israel situation. You have two fractions of people. You have people that are pro-Trump and you have people that hate Jews. And then there's all of us in between somewhere trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

Well, yeah, but it's not just Jews, dude. I mean, if you think back like the past eight years, like we didn't have a problem with just people just randomly hating Jews. I mean, come on. We just didn't. We never have. there's not like a mass group of people in the United States or America that have hated Jews. Now, was there a mass group of people because of ideology and propaganda on media that wanted to hate? Hold on.

But, well, they're mostly hate blacks and basically anyone that's not pure white, right? What I'm saying is that there's always been this, I guess you can say propaganda that the media wants you to always hate somebody. Really, it's mostly always been Muslims in America. It's never been Jews. Like, there's never been a huge push to hate Jews. after 9-11, their big push was to hate Muslims. And then during Black Lives Matter, a large part of that was to make you feel like that you should hate black people. But also in the same sense, they wanted black people to also hate you.

And they used these whatever shootings they could find in law enforcement to basically they wanted to connect law enforcement, white officers, to white people because they wanted to start a race war. When that didn't work, well, then they started the Antifa movements. They did all of this shit. and now it's just moved on to something else called anti-Semitism and the Israel thing. They're going to do whatever they possibly can to divide us. Right. The biggest thing is we have to figure out what the truth actually is. What are the threats and what are not the threats?

And I've always said this, just like I've said it during Black Lives Matter protests. I've said it during Antifa and I've said it during all of this shit. Black people are not the problem. White people are not the problem. And Christians are not a problem and Jews are not the problem. The propaganda and the Psiops, that are consistently in our faces on an everyday basis are the problem. Now, does that mean that Israel government is not terrorist potentially?

No, it doesn't. What I'm saying is that's very possible. Does that mean Iran are good? No, Iranian regime can also be terrorists. So can the United States. There are so many leadership positions right now that are holding authority and devotion to their handlers and to the money and to almost like a demonic entity. that us,

the people have to figure out a way to get out of this. And although, yes, we do talk about this, there's one thing as if you've ever managed anything, um,

is something actually Nathan tells me, or has told me before. He said, I've told my employees, my managers, you know, because he's over the whole company. Don't come at me bitching about all these things.

I want you to tell me a solution. If you're going to come to me and tell me a problem, tell me a solution. And unfortunately, it is very hard to figure out, a solution right now, but at the very least, we're talking about it. And I think we need to be. When you think about the problem, to me, the problem in all of this and what you're

talking about is the deep state, it's the elites. It's the top 10% that control the world. Everything. And they control our money. They control our politics. They control our government. They control religion. They control everything.

And like you said, this deep state wants to divide and control. everyone. The solution is get rid of the deep state. Find them and get them out of here. Well, the problem is, though, is that when you say find the deep state, we know who predominantly the Ford facing people are, but when you start to realize, even back like when Trump was running for president and they had him under all these investigations, they had them on 34, 39 felonies and everything else, that is the deep state. They, the, whoever is over these prosecutors and judges, those are the people that are controlling. Right. So literally, I, Our law and order system in a lot of ways is controlled by the deep state.

For example, if Trump says something or did something that was against the left or against trans or against BLM or whatever it was and he would enact something for the betterment of America, the deep state would come in with their judges, whoever they have put in place across America and he would overrule whatever Trump did. We've seen this shit forever. And the same thing is happening on a regular basis. The question is, though, is that how do you completely take out the deep state from all of our political discussions and our political power in America? And that's the problem. But I think you've got to take out the lobbying. You've got to take out money. And at the very least, you cannot have foreign government influence in your politics in a sovereign nation.

And that's why I thought Trump was the man because he was powerful and he was rich and he didn't need to take money from any foreign government in order to. to operate our government the way it should be operated. And I think that was why so many people were so excited to have him come back as president because he can't be controlled. If you, you know, money controls people. And if you have your own money, you're not going to be controlled. And that's why I was so excited for Trump to come in and do a great job. And I was so grateful.

And I just wanted to show like my friends in Colorado that are Democrats, that he is the man to do the job. And I told them, just watch and see what happens because you are going to end up liking this guy, this orange clown. You're going to like him. You're going to see he's going to make a difference for America. And, you know, it's just disappointing that I was wrong. Yeah. Yeah, to some degree, to a lot of degree, actually, right now. So anyways, in this episode, guys, we talk about everything.

We talk about, you know, who is about to try to blow up the peace deal in between Iran and the United States. We're just potentially hours away. But now the United States is attacking. I ram and so we have may's love on uh guys go give her a follow over on x uh she she does very well on all of her ex basis and we like to have her on the show and hopefully one day she will have her on podcast but here is the interview with us and maize love all right guys welcome to the show we have the amazing maze love back on the podcast so many of you actually reached out last time she was on the show and said that you know you guys loved hearing what she had to say she was very

knowledgeable and very well spoken. Mayes, thank you for coming back on the show. Obviously, we're going to talk about similar things as we did last time, but there's just been a lot that has changed since then. So, Mays, give everybody a background for those that do not know who you are or kind of what you do, and especially on X. Well, thanks for having me on. I am a space host mainly.

That's kind of most of my social media involvement. I'm not a big poster. I kind of suck at it. I tried. so because you know that that that's how you maintain your timeline um but i i navigate very difficult conversations polarized conversations um as it pertains to geopolitics um our domestic political atmosphere as well as the woo-woo yeah for sure um you know so that's that's yeah and so and she's kind of underselling herself a little bit i mean she hosts some of the biggest spaces on x

and she's done a very good job of that we actually kind of i don't know if we start started in spaces around the same time, but I know that we were kind of back in the day two years ago or three years ago or so, however long it's been now. We used to participate in a lot of the similar spaces. And then since then, you have just kind of blown up. So you have some of the biggest co-host or host on your spaces. And you guys talk about a lot of what we talked about here on the show. And just to kind of give everybody, even though we may have covered some of this in the intro, but part of what we're going to talk about tonight as of Sunday night, which was June 7th. And what appears to have happened is Israel struck Beirut's southern suburbs districts, saying it was targeting Hezbollah sites after fire towards northern Israel.

Lebanon's health ministry and also AP reporting says the strike hit a residential building area and killed multiple people, wounded potentially hundreds. Hezbollah has not immediately claimed that earlier fire into Israel. They are actually saying they did not fire into Israel. Sounds like Trump's response. He wasn't himself exactly sure whether. or not, Hezbollah actually struck inside of Israel, which is why Israel said they actually hit Beirut, which has been a red line for Israel for quite some time. Iran's response then launched missiles towards Israel.

Reports vary around 10 to 11 ballistic missiles calling it retaliation for the Beirut strike. Israel says its air defenses intercepted the missiles or that they landed in open uninhabited areas. And so this is obviously being described as the first direct Iranian missile attack on Israel since the fragile April ceasefire. and so this obviously risk of blowing up everything. And so, Meese,

let me just start with this because things have obviously escalated since then. Literally just over the past three or four hours, I've been seeing Mario report on the fact that U.S. is now retaliating because apparently Iran shot down one of our Apaches. But what do you just know about what has been going on, especially from Sunday night this past weekend? We're so close to a peace deal. Trump was saying we might be able to get this done Tuesday, Wednesday,

or Thursday of this week. And of course, once again, it seems like Israel is trying to completely sabotage that deal. Do you see it that way or do you see it as Iran is trying to sabotage the peace deal? Well, I do see. Well, it's kind of interesting because I'm beginning to view things in a way. Like, I would love to say that U.S. wants to do the right thing and Israel is getting in the way. But I do think that there is a tendency for the United States to blame Israel. when they're very much involved.

And I hate to say that, but it's just true. And we can even see that in some of the visionary documents like the Which Pathway to Persia is actually one of the strategies that's listed there, right? And so it's interesting because when they had that big old theater about like Trump yelling at Netanyahu, which is still interesting where that came from at, like some unknown, you know, White House leak or whatever. But to me, what that was screaming is that Israel's about to do something that Trump wants to, you know, kind of separate.

separate himself from and to kind of blame on Israel, the notorious, you know, you know, kind of making it. And to be honest, obviously, Israel doesn't mind having that rap. I mean, they just are like, we're just offending ourselves, so we're going to just continue to do it. What's going on, I think, with that situation, I think that Trump, you know, with the, what do you call the helicopter, the helicopter was, it's not an international, it wasn't flying over international waters. I mean, it was flying straight in that, in the straight of Hormuz, belongs to Oman and to Iran. And so when they were giving the helicopter warnings, they had ignored those warnings and then they had shot at it. And, I mean, thank God that the person survived and then they weren't killed.

But then that's when Trump was like, okay, we're going to retaliate. But again, you know, why are they traversing it? Because that's kind of an instigation. They're like, if you stay out of it. our area, we're not going to shoot at you. Yeah. Because we can't be hospitable to a hostile, you know, entity. So that's kind of where I think with Israel and Beirut, though, that's a different story. I think that Israel has shown that it is relentless.

And you can see from people like Ben Gavir and his public statements, like, don't listen to Trump. We just need to go all in. And he was suggesting that they completely flatten the suburbs to fight to, to, basically get rid of Hezbollah, quote unquote, which is about 600 people in a place of thousands of people. And so these are the things that, you know, make it difficult to really trust that it's not Israel that's instigating. I don't know that, I don't think we've received confirmation that Hezbollah actually

did fire in. I think that this was a way for them to cross the line and blame it on Hezbollah. Yeah. And Ben Gavir, actually, isn't he. the one that was notoriously on camera. What was this six months ago when, I guess, the Knessent in Israel passed the law that they could, I guess, execute to their prisoners from Palestine. And he was like, I think they had a cake in this whole thing.

And I think they had like nooses, all of this stuff. And who has been Gavere exactly in Israel? Is he like the defense minister or something in Israel? Yeah. You know what? I actually need to look up what his exact title is. But yes, he's in charge of the IDF and police enforcement. and all of that, which is, you know, but he is the, I would say, one of the most rogue that you would see.

Like he, his wife did give to him. I think it was a cake decoration or it was a gift right around that time that you're talking about, about them being able to kill the Palestinians. And it had a noose on it as a decoration. It was like a gift. And, you know, those, that type of display of sentiment is just not, it's not a, good look, you know? And I don't, I don't know if there's an intention behind it to seem tough and strong or if it's, you know, wanting to be relentless. Like, I don't, I don't understand

why they do that. But that is him. He's also the guy. Did you guys watch when the flotilla people were captured? They were in international waters and the IDF took, I think it was, I don't know, I want to say it was hundreds of them that were trying to deliver eight. and food and diapers and all that stuff to the to the gossans and they um this was recently right yeah with that with the girl the female yeah this was recently and like the things that um came out about that were horrific i mean i i'm not even gonna lie like it was it was terrible and he there was pictures of him like in their face sticking his tongue out and like just really awkward like things that you wouldn't necessarily do with as a man of power

you know. So yeah. It's strange. I mean, and the whole thing with this Apache helicopter, for those that do not know that story, the Apache was shot down over the past 48 hours in the Strait of Hormuz from what was originally said by Iranian officials is, number one, they did not claim responsibility for the actual shooting down of the U.S. Army Apache. They actually denied claims pretty quickly through official Iranian channels and state-aligned

media in response to U.S. President Trump's accusation. And then obviously the subsequent U.S. strikes, which has happened over the past five hours, Iran's deputy foreign minister told Al Jazeera that Tehran is not behind the attack on the Apache helicopter. There's also foreign ministry Abbas Aragaki posted on X in saying that the foreign forces near Iranian territory face a risk from their own human errors, plane accidents, or potentially being caught in crossfire or false flags. he does not know which it was but they are completely denying any involvement although yes it does

leave open the potential that this was an accident and in the same time you know now over the past five hours you have u.s. airstrikes which are hitting iran i guess pretty relentlessly over the past five hours i think it started at 5 p.m or so uh i think 5 p.m. our time i guess east coast time and those strikes are actually ongoing pentagon came out and said look we're we're going to retaliate in proportion to what they did to us we can't just let that go and then trump said these are going to be almighty and all powerful strikes and we're going to destroy all kinds of things and of course that's what trump's you know kind of sentiment is but the thing about this is is that we are very close to a peace deal maze and how do you see and what what do you think about all of

this talk coming out especially over the past week or so i mean you would mention it earlier, where this leak, quote, unquote, came out from the White House that said that, you know, Trump has basically called Netanyahu a fucking psycho or idiot. And we've seen similar rhetoric from Trump before. I remember probably a year ago in the beginning of his presidency when he said they're both fucking crazy, literally talking about. Yeah, Operation Midnight Hammer. Yeah.

Yeah. So, like, what do you see it is? Is Trump just trying to save his ass? And I think the biggest question to all this is, is like, who's really in control? Is it Netanyahu or is it Trump? And I think that's the question everybody's asking right now. And, you know, what's the answer? Well, I have a hard time believing that Trump, unless he's, I think he has to be more competent than this.

Because like to give him credit for not understanding that when you send Jared Kushner and Whitkoff to be in the negotiating table and also when J.D. Vance went there, he's taking phone calls from Netanyahu, that you're not doing it in good faith. To me, it seems that, you know, they would have reached a deal. I think that we could have reached a deal by now. And they're having a hard time of just even getting a memorandum of understanding just around what's going to happen in the straight. And so I think that, you know, Trump's capacity to be able to negotiate. And that's his wheelhouse.

Like his wheelhouse is that. but he's feeling really restrained and unable to do it, perhaps. Maybe that's what's going on. But he's not, I don't think that they're that close. Even if they do get to something that he might think is agreeable, I don't think that Israel, well, this is what happens when you, I think, the lobbying and you allow money into politics. Because as of right now, I think he's made some commitments. and they're dictating, Israel seems to be dictating what the outcome is going to be,

and that outcome, I doubt, will ever be agreeable by IRGC. Yeah. And so, but I do think that IRGC definitely made some concessions that are worthy of noting. They said, okay, fine. We can have, we can take the enriched uranium. We can dilute it under the oversight of the, the IA, oh my God. I-A-R-A or whatever, yeah, the nuclear thing, yeah. The regular story, yeah.

I-A-A-A, I think, yeah. Yeah, and, you know, they were, if that is of concern, really, you know, and I don't think that, I think that's a huge concession. I think they are also now saying that in order to even continue with a memorandum of understanding, you guys are going to have to release, I think it's some odd billions, I don't have the exact number of frozen Iranian assets. And so they want to obviously do that because they've, you know, this has been very costly for Iran and considering all the sanctions already and all that stuff. They want to be able to replenish their ability to maintain their independence and not have to, you know, to have also the, to sustain this war.

So I don't know. I just think that Netanyahu is going to say, well, this is going to be you're giving money to terrorists and this, you know, there just seems to be an impossible. outcome with with if if they are dictating what's going to happen not Trump then I don't see any type of peace deal he keeps saying that but how close have we gotten yeah that's true sorry I didn't mean to cut you off that's okay I think it's because of the mark maybe it's for the gas like by the way what you just read out the news that you just kind of recapped they are attacking in southern Iran, which is right there on the straight, which is also could potentially impact, you know, oil prices and the infrastructure.

We don't know what that's going to look like. I guess we'll get the updates as they come in. But again, I think Trump is trying to give the world a little bit of like, I don't know, ease their anxiety. And like we're working towards the resolution is better than we're about to, you know, hammer in. So I don't know. And by the way, have you noticed also, you know, it's like this guy, I'm going to play this clip in just a moment, but this guy says, you know, Trump has said, well, we've already won this war and, you know, we're going to reach a peace deal. Now we're not going to reach a peace deal. Now we're going to reach a piece deal. And it's literally been going on since the beginning of this. And if you look at also the shorting of oil and gas companies during this time and then also the buying of the oil and gas companies during this time as specific, I guess you can say strategic times.

It's almost like their messaging in the public on mainstream media is making someone or or multiple people very rich on shorting the oil and gas, then buying the oil and gas, depending on what the administration is going to say and how they're going to pivot, what, you know, how they're telling the American people what's actually going on. I think there is obviously some benefit here financially for a group of people. And I think that literally could be the reason for the messaging. And then as you had already, as we've talked about, is Israel trying to deliberately disrupt this? And I have this clip as former CIA officer Larry Johnson just went on Matt's Gates show on One American News, where he thinks that, obviously, Israel is intentionally disrupting this.

This is only about a minute long, but listen. Okay. The big question is, does this version of the ceasefire hold? Trump has indicated that he wants Iran and Israel to stop shooting at each other. We've seen some pronouncements out of both of those. those governments indicating an acquiescence? What do you read? This was a deliberate effort by Israel to sabotage the peace plan that Pakistan is trying to broker, that the United States and Iran are expected to sign shortly. That news that has been

under work underway for about nine days. That's why we saw the story break over the weekend talking about increased Israeli spying on members of the Trump administration. I mean, Israel's always been spying, but the point of this story was to highlight that the Israelis are trying to find out desperately exactly what Donald Trump is talking to the Pakistanis about. So, that said, this ceasefire is really Trump trying to enforce it on Israel not to further sabotage the talks because it was sabotaged because Iran had warned, If Israel attacked southern Lebanon in the Da'iyah neighborhood of Beirut, that Iran would respond. And the Bibi Danyahu and his government decided to test it.

They hit that Dajia suburb, and then Iran retaliated. Trump asked Bibi not to retaliate. B.B. shrugged his shoulders, and then Trump told him, well, if you do, you're on your own. Well, B.B. went ahead and retaliated. they hit five sites in Iran, and then Iran turned around and fired missiles from those very sites that Israel had hit in retaliation. There you go.

That was Larry Johnson, former CIA guy. He also goes on on Mario in the fall quite often. You know, I guess the question is here is that what is the rhetoric from Trump in the White House? Because obviously over the past two or three weeks, it just seems like that the rhetoric is starting to be more like, hey, Trump is like trying to. to pull out of this. He's trying to get a peace deal established. And it's almost like the United States government in whatever way, whether it's the safe face. They're releasing things specifically

to Axios to other agencies, but specifically to Axios on some of these leaked reports, even the spying report where they said that Israel is one of our biggest national defense risk right now because of Mossad and because of the amount of spying that's going on and surveillance of our top officials in particular when it comes to this the peace talks with the negotiators with this war. So like who really has control over the U.S. government is at the very least it seems like that someone somewhere is leaking information on purpose. But is that to save face for Trump and his politics here?

because on one hand, you have Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel that desperately needs this war to continue for his political life and really his life in general, because when this thing's all over, more than likely he will be prosecuted. He will probably be put in prison unless, you know, the elites come and save him more than likely they will. But then on the other hand, you need, you have Trump that desperately needs this war to end for not just his political life, but also anybody that he endorses going forward. So who is it? What's the real messaging that's going on out of Washington, Mays? Well, you know what I find interesting? There's the timing of all this. So as we're approaching midterms, did you guys watch how he was completely booed at the Knicks game? And I know that that hurt his ego, okay?

And he has to be probably feeling it in more ways than we can account. Like X is one thing, but I think he's feeling it as he's in these public play. Like every single musician declined to come and to his party, right? Like except vanilla ice, you know. And this is strong messaging. And I think that what they're doing to respond to that is by trying to separate Trump and the administration from a lot of the actions and put a lot more blame on Israel for the, for what's happening.

And they're not being peace. I think it's convenient because they're seeing. that the messaging from Iran, which a lot of other countries, like even Pakistan, who's supposed to be the mediator in this and who is mediating, has made it out to seem like, well, Iran's not really being irrational considering they were already attacked when they came to the during negotiations, and they still came back in good faith. And then obviously the news is showing that Israel continues to cross red lines and to violate a lot of those terms. So I think that there is a intention to separate the administrations, I guess, they're part of what the

lack of peace that's happening. And also to make it seem like Trump is trying, but he can't get Israel to comply. Well, ultimately, you're now at the same time, you're trying to pass legislation with the two, you know, the ND, well, the appropriate, the National Defense Authorization Act, there's also three parallel type of legislation that are kind of similar, but deeper, I guess, and wider in scope.

All at the same time, but you're showing the world that you cannot control your allies' actions. That there's no respect for the United States' you know, part to, like we're trying to help. I think everybody knows that Iran wasn't necessarily

they were not an imminent threat to us. They might have been an imminent threat to Israel. They could have potentially if they wanted to, you know, destroyed Israel. But they couldn't have been an imminent threat to us, right? And so we did this in good faith on their behalf. That's kind of what I think is, this is kind of on the world's stages of the theaters. Like, we helped you and you can't even participate in comply and try to help reach a peace deal.

Well, I think that this is going to be problematic. Now, I don't know if this is divine intervention where all of this is happening at the same time. is this legislation, but I can't see it helping, right? So when you said that, like, who really runs the government, that's a great question because I would love to know what you guys thought about the whole Massey deal, because there was, you know, kind of this very open and explicit effort that was given in lots of money over 30-something thousand, I think 15 of it came from private funding, you know, to primary him and to get the other guy in.

And then APEC boasted about it the next day. They were like, you can disagree with us, but not for long. Yeah, and you won't win. Yeah. And you won't win. And so I think there is this question now. Trump is getting a lot of backlash. He hasn't put a lot of focus in the United States, which is why we voted for him.

And he is, I think he's feeling like this is going on way longer than he's comfortable with. and at this point, I just really don't know, you know, how I think he's trying to, the midterms are coming, even though he said he doesn't care about them. I think, you know, at some point when you're seeing all these states being flipped, you know, I just, I feel like that there had to be a, like a, they were, they're restrategizing, I should say, what their messaging is in his role and what's going on over there. Yeah. Yeah. And just, and by the way, just like the NDAA section 224 where, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you know, to. your point in this legislation that's trying to be pushed through. It's already went through Congress.

Number one, it's got to go to the Senate. And it's so funny when people try to act like Israel is not a threat to the United States. But when you look at Massey like you were just talking about, and you have Massey that was funded to the tune of about $6 million. Most of the average donations to Massey in that campaign was $100. So we're talking about the mom and pops and the people that really got behind Massey as a America first liberal, not liberal, but, you know, libertarian type candidate that actually cared about America.

And then obviously you had APAC come through with $35 million or so in funding to Ed Gowlerine. And the reason why this matters and a reason why this is a threat is because when you have Congress and you have Senate that are going to vote for things like NDA Section 224, where it basically fuses the United States military and our intelligence with mass. and not by the way on the benefit of the United States, not, they're not benefiting us. We're the only people or group of people that NDA Section 224 is going to benefit is Israel.

And literally B.B. Netanyahu himself came out and said that he's the one that wrote the actual language to put in our bill, which is NDA section 224. He wrote the language and he came up with it, likely also along Mossad and whoever, to where they would have full access over a lot of our intelligence, a lot of our campaigns as far as social media campaigns, sciops, you know, the same shit we see in mainstream media, you know, the operation or the project mockingbird, the stuff that's been around for a long time. But in this particular case, Israel will have a lot of say-so over that, you know, those campaigns. And not only that, it would be complete and direct sharing with not only our intelligence,

but also our advanced technology. You're talking about aircraft. You're talking about infrastructure. structure, everything. And so this is a problem. And obviously, anybody looking at the NDA Section 224 would see this as a massive overreach from a foreign government. But the thing is, if you have the people in power and in Congress and in Senate that

are all paid for and funded by APAC, which, you know, it's always funny how they always say, well, APAC is an American organization. Yeah, okay. But they're literally all, most of the people that run that are controlled and held by, Israel and a lot of the people that are in the top tier of APAC are you know multi what is it called visa holder so that you know they live in Israel primarily and then they also have an American visa that's pretty easy to get you know if you're an Israeli citizen that is a lobbyist so this is the problem and the you know and this is the thing that I always have to debate

or argue with people about when it comes to Iran and Muslims look We understand that Muslims, if you just, if you allow all Muslims to infiltrate your country, we've seen it in the UK, we've seen it in Ireland, we've seen it in, and we're starting to see it in the United States. Yes, that can be a problem. But what I'm telling you is that also at the same time, we do have a foreign country that is controlling a lot of our politics, which is like literally the people that we are voting for.

They're not actually going out there and doing what is in the best interest of us as the voters, they're doing what is in the best interest of their donors, which primarily is APAC. And if it was a Muslim organization or groups and lobbyists that were doing the exact same thing, I would say that is just as consequential as APAC. But that's not what's happening. Yes, there are a lot of Muslims. There are a lot of people in this country that shouldn't be here, period. You know, especially after Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

My problem is, is that when you have a group and an organization that has a group and an organization that that much money, that much power, and that much influence that has influence in all of our politicians. This is how you get stuff like NDA Section 224 passed. And whether or not it will pass the Senate or not, we don't know. But what happens when now, like even for example, Massey, he got outfunded by $34 million, literally everywhere in Kentucky. That's all you saw was Ed Gallerine.

And all they did was trash Massey. You're seeing it in another race in, I believe it's Michigan. There's a race in California. also if you look at Lindsey Graham which he is slated to win his election tonight which is today if you look at all of the funding that went to Lindsey Graham uh you know opposite of his opponent which lindsay graham i think is one of the worst congresspeople that or senators that the united states has and he's in our state this is how all this shit works no one likes lindsay graham he got booed off the stage when trump was campaigning this was back in 2020 i think it was he got

boot off the stage in his hometown of MAGA supporters. No one liked him there. And yet somehow he's about to win his election again in South Carolina. So with all that being said, Mays, sorry, I kind of went off a little bit. But this is, I mean, do you not see this is the problem is the funding is a massive issue? And that should be just as dangerous to America as Iran having a nuclear bomb. that I think what has been revealed especially with the Massey kind of sealing the deal is that we have much more of a perceived choice and not necessarily a real choice and what's going on.

We had social media influencers that literally rallied. They all went to Kentucky. They all were just documenting the whole time. And you could see the massive amount of support that showed up for masks. And then if you listen to the speech, like when Massey was, he had conceded and he, you could hear the crowds. Like, like, it was just everybody was clapping. I mean, he has, like, real fans that love him because he's been voting in their favor for a very long time. He's been there 30 years.

Now, this other guy, you heard maybe four or five people clapping. And, like, when you see, like, the people that were going by the places that he was, he was speaking at and trying to get everyone to vote. Like there was there was barely anybody there. So what's going on? Like there just seems to be. So everyone's like, okay,

it's the boomers. There was all the boomers that are sitting at home watching Fox News and all they wanted, you know, all they heard was Trump saying over and over again that he is against Trump. And so that's what it is. Yeah. Well, I mean,

fundamentally though, if you look across the field, like you really don't see any more critical. critics of Israel out there. Marjorie Taylor Green was taken down. Massey, I think Rocana still accepted a little bit of A-PAC money, but he has been a little bit more courageous. But across the board, though, it's very rare to find anybody that's going to criticize Israel for that reason. And the thing is, like you said, any other country, had it been China, had it been any other country, it's never okay to be able to infiltrate another country, like under the notion of, you know,

you know, one year is, I should say it like this. Like, if there were Zionists that lived in the United States that were America first, and they proved it every time by defending America's interests more than they do Israel's when they're not, when they're at odds, because that's what's been happening. All of the foreign policy right now is advancing Israel's interest. And everyone making those decisions, that's what's resulting in the, displacement of the Muslims that you guys are complaining about. Yeah.

Like, they wouldn't be here, right? Exactly. And so, like, there's 60 million of them have been displaced from the Levant region. Like, if you take into account Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, like, it's to where their entire, the infrastructures, it has become uninhabitable. And so you track down the organizations that were funding their, they were. their migration to the West, it is the, they are Zionist organizations. Yes.

So they want to ship them out of there, but they're saying that they're the first line of defense for Americans and having to deal with them. Well, that's a lie, right? And so I think it's just really about airing this out and understanding that, you know, there's ultimately, we have to get to a point where we, if we don't fix this problem of just complete, we need campaign financing reform completely across the board. I also take a lot of issue with corporations that are able to advance their legislation, which could be at odds with our health, with our, you know, with our economy, with everything. Like, we're letting them be able to

dictate their terms because they pay off our politicians. I just don't know that we have enough time to deal with that scale of a because it's state by state you'd have to main has successfully done that they've they've that's one good example i think there's maybe a total of three but every other state we would have to one by one um fight that fight and by then we're going to be fully infiltrated like i i think both on let's just say the the immigrants that have come in but also those that have really hijacked our politicians. And lastly, I just wanted to bring this up because when it comes to this legislation, the deeper part of this, guys, is the fact that it's wiring the two countries together

at a supply chain level, right? And this is taking, I mean, not only are we going to, oh, sorry, a little alarm go off, not only is this taking it out of the transparency when it comes to like the annual aid votes and where Congress can actually debate it, they can put caps on the amount, amounts that are given, but this, it's like an opaque machinery of defense acquisition and they're literally going to be embedded in such a way to where it's foundational infrastructure, right? Like they won't be able, we can't undo this. This is a marriage we cannot divorce from, meaning that like if,

this happens, we can't necessarily, like, it would be very difficult to undo it without breaking our own systems and putting our own military tech at risk. That's why it's so important. And the thing is, is that when you really dissect this, and we used GROC, okay, so let me just go ahead and put that out there. Definitely do your own research. But we were talking, like, in the space, we had GROC where we could kind of clarify and ask questions. The way GROC broke it down, is basically saying that this is highly problematic for the United States. And the United States is because they're going to be blending and blurring the lines between civilian infrastructure and military.

And this is the first time that's ever happened in the history of the United States. We're letting another country now be able to access and leverage that. And that could put, there's no guardrails in preventing the weaponization of it against us. Yeah. Well, and you're right. And, you know, you were talking about earlier just a minute ago where you have all of these Muslims that are in countries like the United States, like Ireland, you know, throughout the UK, and then you wonder who those people are that are funding that migration,

right? And you don't have to really look very far because the interesting thing about it is, is that on our podcast, you know, we voted for Trump three times. We voted for Trump three times because of number one. his policies and what he said that he was going to do for America. And when you looked at BLM, you looked at Antifa, you look at all the mass uprisons and protests and the mostly peaceful protests, you know, when they burnt down all the cities. And then you started to kind of trace those protests back to organized protests from NGOs like the Open Society Foundation. And the Open Society Foundation is interesting because we've always known, you know, the New World Order talk, right?

The One World Government, the Bilderberg groups, the World Economic Forum. Well, you got to start looking at like who the people are that are actually the big dogs at those groups. And in particular, the foundation, the Open Society Foundation. And I remember when, I don't know if you remember this, so Trump's been in office 15 months or 16 months now. And in that first five or six months, Trump and his team said, we're going to get to the bottom of who is funding these protests because we know they are organized. We know they're being funded. you know, the Republicans, especially leading up to the 2024 election was consistently talking about on mainstream media and everywhere else about Alex Soros visiting the White House. I think it was like 11 times with the Biden and Harris administration.

Obviously, Alex Soros is the son of George Soros. And so if you look into who George Soros is, well, number one, and not to say anything, I'm not being anti-Semitic when I say this, but George Soros is a Jew. He is a practicing Jew. He does a lot of his foundational things to support Israel, but also he is also supported protest in Palestine, right? In Palestine, potentially supporting Hamas, but then also supporting groups in Israel. And a lot of people have always said, well, who has been the main funders of the mass migration into the United States and the UK?

Well, the Open Society Foundation, we know at the very least, has done a lot of that organization and funding into those groups moving from the Middle East outside and getting away from Israel into the UK, into Ireland, and into the United States to make it everybody else's problem. So then when you think about that as well, you got to think about this. Like, he is, the Open Society Foundation has always kind of been funding this for a very long time. We've talked about George Soros.

We've talked about Rothschilds. But then when Trump and them said, we're going to get to the bottom of who has been funding these campaigns and these riots and these protests and and putting bricks and doing all this stuff they were so adamant and they said we're very close and all of a sudden you didn't hear a damn word about that anymore you didn't hear anything about it and i think it's because they figured it out to a degree that they couldn't come out with anything substantial to be like hey we're going to bring these people to court and we're going to hold them accountable and let's see why they're funding all this they went silent on that and and and it's because of the

connection and the deep connection, in my opinion, that Israel has to the United States and the control they have. And so we've always said, like, if you're going to destroy a sovereign nation or weaken a sovereign nation, what do you do? Well, you bring everybody into that nation that does not have any of their values or doesn't assimilate to that country. And then you also make it make all of that, that country's problem. But then it can also benefit other countries. They could benefit Israel because then Israel's like, see, Muslims are bad, right? We hate Muslims. so you guys should as well. And I think this is kind of how all of this shit starts to unravel.

It's not that I'm saying, and I've said this forever, it's not what I'm saying that Iran is a great nation and they have a great leadership. I mean, I don't think that's the case whatsoever. I don't think that's the case in most of the Middle East countries. And I think you can ask many of the people. But also, like how many people may as has the retaliation because of October 7th by Israel and the United States, but more specifically Israel, Like, how many terrorists do you think that's going to create on the backside of this? You know, I mean, think of your whole family was murdered by another country. Like, do you think that's going to make you happy about Israel?

And do you think that's going to create less terrorists in your future or more? And so it's like now I feel like we're at a precipice to where now we've created likely more terrorist groups, if anything, which you remember, Bibi Netanyahu was when in his deposition, it was proven that he was funding Hamas. $39 million a month. And this is Bibi Netanyahu on U.S. taxpayer dollars that we were funding Israel. So this is all a big game. But the problem is that people that voted for Trump, the people that do not know any of this, they're still MAGA. They're going to be MAGA probably till they're dying day.

And they say that anybody that criticizes this administration or Trump, no matter what he does is an idiot and you're a leftist. And I think we've seen a lot of that. They call you woke right. or actually they call you woke Reich, I believe, is the terminology. Yeah, well, so I'll say this, right? First, I guess kind of going back to the number of people that were displaced. This has been happening for the past two and a half decades.

There has been ongoing, and it's literally documented. I swear, you guys should just pop one of my articles that kind of really assesses this. The actual primary sources are included in this. very objective analysis that is showing that there was an effort to, you know, destabilize the Middle East and turn the sectarian, um, Islam, uh, sex against each other to kind of do some of the fighting themselves. And then they named the countries that they were going to, you know, completely destabilized and put in new leadership. They named, this is all written as strategy documents and in hindsight have materialized as written. And so when you think about that,

And then you're like, well, what did they plan to do with all the people that were displaced? Well, then you look at the United Nations and you're going to find the replacement migration. And this was the document that is really saying that, you know, there's going to be a point in which all the boomers are going to be 2030. They're going to be completely out of the workforce. And yes, we do have AI that's moving in, but we're going to need new people in to replace. This is kind of under the guise of that. And where did they plan to get these people? And what you're seeing is organizations like highest.

I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right, but it's H-I-A-S. This is one of the, it's an international Jewish humanitarian nonprofit, and they provide services to refugees, asylum seekers, and displaced people and immigrants. And so they have a huge, like when you go and you look into this and you see how much they are part of the United Nations replacement migration project, they're bringing these people in. And then they're like, bad movements.

Muslims, but they're like, you know, displacing these people where they cannot, they don't have the choice to stay where they want to stay. They didn't have that choice. Yeah, they care about them, but they don't. They're telling you they're evil, but we got to save them. Yeah, and it's just one of those things that's like, we have to, we have, and some, I have to do this every day. So don't think I'm like, you know, like, I'm, I'm constantly trying to hold on to my

agency and how I perceive the world. I'm holding on to it with dear life, like every day because it's so easy to be influenced by the inundation of information. Yeah. Especially when it's coming through the Western lens. But I just want to highlight that like the terrorists right now, and I hate to say this, people might hate me after this one, but I'm just going to say it. The terrorists right now are the ones terrorizing the region. Like I don't think that those, I think that you can see now that peace is not the goal of Netanyahu. and I think that if they want to see peace in the region,

they have to get rid of Netanyahu. They have to get rid of the Lakud. They have to get rid of the people that are that are creating this level of, like, insane tension. I mean, I just, I think that there's a lot of financial incentive that's going to be coming from what's happened out of Gaza. I think that that's a part of, you know, that's, there was a master plan that has been worked on, you know, for,

a couple of years. This was set out of Wittkoff's mouth on 60 minutes showing that maybe this was part of the plan the entire entire technocratic city blueprint. Have you guys seen that? It's crazy. And in that blueprint, they only accommodated for a couple of hundred thousand gossens. What did they expect to do with the rest of them? Right. So I think that, you know, these are the things that we have to kind of take into consideration, we just don't know which fight to fight. And a lot of times they're telling us, fight the Muslims, they're the ones here with the sleeper cells, and they're this and they're that. Well, really, I think that if we could apply pressure at the same time by isolating an issue, you know, we would be far more effective, right? If we were to be like, okay, we know that

we need campaign financing reform. But what's the most urgent ones? And then kind of like then being able to organize a pressure because people can't be held accountable unless everybody's doing it at the same time. And with the way that the information is flowing and inundating us, it is almost unlikely that it'll ever happen unless we make it happen. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I agree. No, I agree with that. And, you know, you also have to think about like why the United States has supposedly hated Muslims. I mean, they always bring it back to. religion or all this stuff. But, you know, I even remember like back during 9-11 where it was Odigo, I think is the

company. It was an Israeli instant messaging company, but it was a Israeli instant messaging company. What actually happened to Adigo employees reportedly received vague warning messages shortly before the attacks, right? And the company later gave the information to the United States, supposedly, and Israeli authorities. But they did not mean Odigo knew 9-11 was common necessarily, but they gave. gave these very vague warning messages during 9-11.

There was a lot of their employees that actually did not show up. And it wasn't just O'Digo. There was another company, which I also believe it was Wiccoff's company. If I'm not mistaken, Wickoff had, if I'm thinking of the right guy, I'm pretty sure, Steve Wickoff had the company in the Twin Towers on 9-11. I think some of them, some of them died or maybe a lot of them, but there was- No, they were all called off duty that day. Yeah, they were all, you know, said, don't show up for work.

This is juicy. Okay, you guys are giving me conspiracy information. Okay, run that by me again. So you're telling me that Steve Whitkoff had some, a branch or something in the Twin Towers. And the day of 9-11, none of his company employees were at the building. Yeah, let me make sure of this because. I don't know if it's the right guy, but. Yeah, so Steve Whitkoff World Trade Center, I'm pretty sure I'm talking about the same guy.

But either way, there were other companies. that did not show up for work that day. Sorry, so it can't be Witkoff. He was the founder of the real estate company, Whitkoff group, but there's someone, not Whitkoff is to see, 4,000 Jews, Israelis did not show up for work. Yeah.

That was the ADL was the one that tried to debunk that claim. But we do know that it was, let's see, Howard Lucknick is who I'm thinking of. That's it. Yeah, that's it. So it wasn't Whitkoff. It was Howard Lucknock. and it was run by Howard Lucknick. Cantor lost hundreds of employees because its offices were high in the North Tower.

Lucknick survived and so did many people that were called off to work that day. So there were various companies that were Israeli-backed or Jewish companies that were in the World Trade Centers that did not show up for work that day. Also, you got to go back to like Building 7, which was a government-type building there that somehow just demolished and all of these documents were gone forever. but then also you think about like the the people that were caught on video there were the Jewish people that were in Times Square right under that that was celebrating on video and all this stuff the reason I'm bringing all this stuff up in Israelis yeah don't forget about rumsfeld and the two trillion dollars that was missing you know what I mean the day before yes but but so so maize you had mentioned last night you guys talked about the USS Liberty and and the reason why I'm saying all this is because you know we've as Americans have been brought to the conclusion that if you're Muslim, you're a terrorist, basically. I mean, that's kind of what they have wanted you to believe since 9-11.

And at the very least since 9-11, we know, and, you know, if you go to the architects and engineers for 9-11 truth, they're a group of 1,700 architects and engineers that have disproven every, like most of the claims about these aircraft, they could fly into buildings and then just miraculously take down both buildings plus building seven that was never touched anyways because of the heat they say although there were people that were working in elevator shafts that that week leading up to 9-11 many people think it was an improvised explosive to bring both those buildings down but what i'm saying is that you you have this theory they've always wanted to believe hey muslims are bad and we are good but like what was what was

the deal so it was just what two days ago that were was it yesterday that was the anniversary of the S. Liberty. Can you give us a little brief rundown of what actually happened on the USS Liberty? It was it was one of our ships, correct, that was attacked by Israel? You can tell me more about it. Yes. So basically in 1967, the USS Liberty, it was a U.S. ship. It was like an intelligence gathering ship. And they were attacked heavily by Israel. And when I tell you heavily, I mean, they literally for 70, minutes there was non-stop attacks even down to like and there were planes that were like coming in these Israeli planes that were coming in and they were low enough to be able to see the American flag

there's no way that they and the reason why this is so contested and it's and it's gone for so long is because and I don't know if you heard Massey Massey did an excellent job of kind of summarizing the specific things but so there was the jamming of the U.S. distress frequencies. So their attempts to radio for help were jammed by the Israelis. And in order for the Israelis to do that, they would have to know that it was American frequencies, right? There's no way that they would have been able to do it otherwise.

Otherwise, they weren't. And so that's kind of where a lot of the critics are like, well, that would have been impossible for them to not know. but they also, there was like the extensive prior reconnaissance, like the identification opportunities. They had, you know, a few times throughout the day. So this attack took place around like 3 o'clock. But they have overflew the Liberty few times in the morning, some at very close range. And the crew members and the classified accounts report that the ship was flying a huge U.S.

flag and they were there. So like, and also there was NSA intercepts and survivor testimony that indicated Israeli pilots reported seeing American markings on the ship. And so basically there was 70 to 75 minutes of a sustained multi-phase attack on USS Liberty. And like it was a mirage of jets that made repeated runs. with cannon fire, with rockets. And then, like, they, 20 minutes later, like, three torpedo boats, they closed in. And in order for you to get as close as they had to be in order to fire off torpedoes,

you knew it was an American ship. So they closed in. They fired five torpedoes. One hit, like, killed, I think, 20 people instantly and flooded the, you know, compartments. And they just kept. And then they had machine gunning of the life rafts. They came and started machine gunning the right, like the people, you know, that were surviving on these life rafts. I mean, it was, it was so bad.

And so I think that in order to be able to do these things, it's very difficult to not know that these are Americans. And so there was U.S. So they finally get one of the frequency radio calls through. and as U.S. rescue aircraft were about to take off, they launched from the, I forgot the carriers, I forgot exactly. Yeah. But they launched from the United States. Well, they were going to go defend the ship. But the Secretary of Defense under Lyndon Johnson called them back and made them turn around and it prevented them from going.

Yeah, that's wild. Well, he was also a friend of Israel and, you know, he... Yeah, and he came in right after JFK was assassinated. And keep in mind also with that, thinking about that maze, and it's crazy that I just connected this, but, you know, we've done a lot on JFK assassination. And although we know for sure it wasn't just Lee Harvey Oswald, we don't, we know predominantly that Lyndon B. Johnson was involved in a lot of murderous shit, uh, leading up to JFK's assassination. He had basically a hit squad. And there's a book called The Men on the Sixth Floor where they interviewed witnesses and literally a shooter that was also in the building, the depository building with Lee Harvey Oswald.

And then you've got to think about, you know, Jack Ruby or actually his real name is Jack Rubenstein. But Jack Ruby was the guy that killed Lee Harvey Oswald. He was put in place in that particular order. But during that book and through all the investigation, Jack Ruby was a part of this whole plan leading up to this. And the reason I'm saying all this, because then you had Lyndon me, Johnson during this attack on the USS Liberty at the same time you had JFK that was the nine Israel nuclear weapons they he did not want nuclear weapons in Israel he wanted Israel to register under fara which they can you know basically completely said no we're not going to do that we

don't give a shit what you say and he started to become a very big problem for Israel JFK did for sure and then when it was Robert Kennedy which was at the time he was the attorney general of the United States. And so during that time, Robert Kennedy was about to go after Lindy Johnson for all of the shit that he was doing that some of his hit squad members were already killing people and doing all this other shit. Well, he started going after them. And then so Robert Kennedy died, was assassinated.

I mean, he got killed by essentially the same people. But Lyndon B. Johnson was always very pro-Israel. He was going to make sure that Israel got nukes and we didn't screw with that. He was going to make sure that Israel never had to register with Farah. and then USS Liberty. Isn't it all just very coincidental to you? Yeah. No, but yeah.

And that's the thing. I think everything kind of took off after JFK died, meaning the full-on kind of infiltration, moving in people into key positions to be able to continue advancing a lot of the foreign policy that was needed for Israel to continue doing what is doing. But I, again, am beginning to take this stance, which might make me, I don't know,

a lot of people. I can't, I can't not be honest, though. I mean, we can be patriotic, I think, by being honest, because if I want my country back, I have to call out the problem, right? Like, at some point, I do think that, you know, the United States has in strong cahoots and partnership. And I think we've been led astray into thinking that potentially we're separate. But that is probably because the United States wants to take equity stake in whatever they're going to do with the reconstruction of the Middle East. And we have to call that out. I mean, there's no, I think if we were honest about everything, we could be able to

protect our ability to trade and to compete with China and to do all these things that I think are probably underneath a lot of the moral virtue signaling that they're doing right now. Yeah. I think a lot of it has to do with trade routes with IMAG, with trips, and they're, you know, the one, the trade route they're building through Armenia and Azerbaijan. there's just so much that's not being talked about and everything is being made about morals and fear tactics like this is you need to fear the Muslims

they're defending themselves and really to be honest with you even the people who care about Jews which we have like a lot of these debates and I'm like are you not concerned that like your people are being used in a way to be able to kind of dominate a region like if they really wanted peace, you know, they wouldn't be doing these things.

Like, you can, you can protect them better by being honest about what that, the wrongdoings of the Israel government. You know what I mean? And it's just like, but the phrase anti-Semitism is the same phrase as conspiracy theorist during COVID. It's the same shit. But you think about Michael Huckleberry, for example, I think I said it is right. But, you know, when. No, not Huckleberry. No, that's definitely not.

Dingleberry, I think is what you're referring to? I don't know his name. Anyways, when Tucker interviewed him, he said that Israel has rights to the entire Middle East. Yeah, yeah, that's basically what he said, according to biblical things. And that's what I'm saying. And Tucker surgically got that out of him, by the way. Yeah, absolutely. And that's what I'm saying, like during COVID and during any of the shit that happened in the past, like you, if they labeled you a conspiracy theorist, then you were automatically wrong.

and it didn't matter what you were talking about. And so now it's like if they label you a Nazi, which they've done that for a while. But if they label you anti-Semitic, then you're not allowed to talk shit about Israel or that government, even though we've talked shit about our government for years because that's literally our job as citizens to criticize and hold accountable our politicians that we put in office for sure.

So that was my only point. Now it's anti-Semitism. It used to be white supremacist and not seeing all this stuff. and now it's just a different term. And I just want to bring this up real quick. And, you know, I've tried to be quiet so that you guys can talk. But, you know, talking about what Dingleberry, whatever, said that Israel, they have entitlement to the whole Middle East. Do you not feel like Iran feels the same way that they have entitlement?

I mean, because they are the ones protecting Lebanon right now. You know, Lebanon is not their country. So who owns who? Exactly. Well, I love that you brought that up because that is a very important example to be. So whenever people keep talking about how Iran attacked U.S. Marines and the Beirut bombing, the thing that people don't recognize or talk about what led up to that was the fact that Israel invaded Lebanon. They invaded Lebanon.

What broke out was kind of like the civil war. And United States went to support Israel. and Iran was supporting Lebanon. And that was the birth of Hezbollah. That's where Hezbollah came from. It was because they were defending. And I used this as an example because when you look at the French resistance, what was that?

They were fighting the Nazis, right? And a lot of people don't like that because they don't like the association or I guess the comparison. But the French, they rose up and they were fighting the occupation that was taking place within their country. And so that's what Hezbollah was born out of, kind of like to fight Israel to prevent them from expanding. And just like the United States went to go support Israel, Iran went to go support Hezbollah. And so the whole point is that when we kind of are able to like strip away a lot of the

narratives around it, you begin to kind of see these things like taking shape. And it's not about like, you know, but I love that you brought that up because I do think that Iran understands, you know, obviously if we're getting it now, like way later, that what was happening is kind of this takeover of the West in their region, you know, and so they kind of feel compelled to be able to fight and to help Hezbo out because they dearm them. Yeah. And by the way, Mays, and I know you have a hard out, but Mario in the fall post of this,

I actually sent it to you, Sherry, to your exact question and what you're talking about, Maze. Mario just said, or not just said, he said yesterday, he said, What changed tonight? This is the first time Iran has struck Israel in response to an Israeli strike on a third country. And not Iran itself, but Lebanon. And so the significance is structural. Iran's deterrence used to mean strike Iran and Iran strikes back.

Tonight it expanded to strike Lebanon and Iran strikes back. So that's a fundamentally different equation, one that extends Iranian hard power as a check on Israeli military action across the entire region, not just over Iranian territory. And so for decades, Israel has operated with near impunity because no regional power had both the capability and willingness to impose real cost on its military actions abroad. And so if that equation has genuinely shifted every conflict in the region, including Palestine, has a new variable in it that wasn't there yesterday. If you still thought Israel was calling the shots, think again. And so that was Iran's standpoint as like they've never, they've never retaliated when it came to what Israel did around the region. and now Iran has taken a stance. If you're going to freaking strike Lebanon,

now we're going to start getting involved there as well. Because they've never done that. Now they are. And so Iran and Israel right now are in this power struggle. Yeah. And Israel, in my opinions. So why are we in it? That's what I don't understand.

Well, that's the thing. We need to let them fight it out. But here's the reality. And Mays, I know you're going to go. We had mentioned us the other night, Sherry. If we actually leave the conflict and we say, Israel, you're on your own, right? We're done. You have not listened to Trump, multiple occasions.

You have Israel versus Iran. Israel loses unless they use nuclear. That's the only possible way that Israel can win a war against Iran is if they use nuclear. And the question is, will Israel use nuclear? And I think absolutely very possibly yes. You remember when we used to worry about Russia and Ukraine situation breaking off in a nuclear battle, it is a much higher chance that a nuclear war starts because of Israel and Iran than it is, in my opinion, versus Russia and Ukraine. And especially in the current state of affairs.

So I just wanted to bring that up. Mays, you made a lot of great points for that as well. How are you just going to bring this up? You can't make the conversation this good, right? Like, I hate that I have to go. We need to have a part two because I don't know if you're aware of Paxilica. Have you heard of that? because holy moly how it all kind of will come together when you talk about Paxilica

and what's going on in Demona with their nuclear weapon over there. By the way, we also have to talk about John Pollard. Like Jonathan Pollard and his recent rhetoric and he's trying to be a part of the condescent. He's running right now, by the way. Anyway, there's a lot going on there. But the United States is giving Israel a huge out by leasing the land on Demona for 99 years and moving all of their, like, this is what the 224 is leading up to, them being able to combine this military forces.

And this is going to give them out because because the United States will be leasing that land, they then will be responsible for the nuclear, what do you call it, the regulatory, you know, requirements. This is so important. And you know what, Destiny, I don't know if you know Destiny Resinda, she's reporting on all of this. and she's got so much information. We should bring her on if you guys want to.

For sure. But we can break that down and talk about it. But absolutely, that is, I think, what Israel would resort to. Yeah. And I think that it's under the, you know, I think that this is kind of like that would be there. That would be there probably like after that, you can't. I mean, there's no going back after that, right? Like so.

And by the way, everybody, I want to say too, because May's got to go, she hopefully is going to start her own podcast soon. And when she does, I want you guys to go follow her. And we're going to, like I said, we're going to help you any way we can on that. Obviously,

you are huge on X and all that stuff. But if there's any way, we can help you on a podcast, we'd love to do it because I think people would definitely benefit from your insight and information. And also, please tell everybody where they can follow you before you go. What is your,

Maze Love 14. That's my handle on X. And so you can catch me there. I'm on Instagram, but I'm not very active. over there. And so I won't even really mention it. I think I'm trying to completely detangle myself from meta.

One social media at a time. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, I don't want. So listen, so don't do maize love one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12, 13. You've got to do maize love 14, okay? Yes. Well, there's a lot of maize loves.

I'm going to tell you guys right now, I have about 15 different accounts that have created and tried to solve that. Because my background is an investment banking. They're like hitting everybody up in the DMs. Like, how's your portfolio doing? So make sure you do at Mays Love 14. And yeah, I would absolutely love your help getting started because this isn't, you know, this would be new for me.

So I would appreciate it. That would be awesome. Well, Mays, thank you so much for coming on for sure. We love talking to you. We'll definitely follow up and do a part two. There's so much to talk about. I mean, and by the way, Mays is on those people you could bring on for tons of shit because she's in all the spaces.

She knows everything that's going on real time, like probably more than anybody I know. So this is just one thing. If we could sit here for eight hours or her, we would. But, but Mays, thank you again for coming on.

Go follow her. Go check her out. We'll let you guys know when she does decide to do a podcast. Yeah. And now I'll never forget. She's Mays 14. That was a good way to do it. She is the 14th.

Thank you so much for having me. You guys are definitely like, I enjoy this. Like having a conversation with you guys, it's the best. Like I stress out about the other ones because they're very like, but you are, I see why you guys are doing so well. I know that you guys have had some great numbers. And I appreciate you having me on. And yeah, we'll touch base and talk about tax,

uh, PAC Silicon maybe next time. Absolutely. Well, Mays, thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Mays. Um, guys, that's going to do it for us. The name of this song, by the way,

we're going to end it is to still have my friends maize is one of our friends and this is by loving caliber until next time guys we love you peace out peace out that i made five years ago it's on party in new york are you texting me to tell me that i'm shit why are you still going on about things i never did maybe you can't see that i'm hard to home i know i'm a basket case you think should be alone You're a nightmare