Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - William McCasland Update & Epstein Journalist Flees Country After Alleged Directed Energy Attack

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Tonight we break down the latest developments in the mysterious William McCasland disappearance after new body cam footage surfaced showing police interactions with his wife, footage that is now fueli...ng even more speculation and unanswered questions surrounding the case. We examine what stands out in the footage, why the story continues gaining national attention, and what investigators and online researchers are now focusing on.We also dive into explosive claims from a journalist investigating Jeffrey Epstein’s network who reportedly fled the country after alleging she was targeted by a directed energy weapon attack. From Havana Syndrome-style symptoms to intelligence agency theories, secret technology, UFO connections, and growing public suspicion surrounding Epstein-related investigations, this episode goes deep into some of the most controversial stories circulating online right now.Our Merch StoreOur Telegram

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Welcome to Investigator's podcast. I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife, Sherry. Tonight we're bringing you an update on the mysterious William McCaslin disappearance. After new body cam footage surface showing police interactions with his wife, footage that is now raising even more questions online about what may have really happened. We'll break down the latest development, the reactions to the footage and why this case continues to capture so much attention. And we're also diving back into the UFO files and a growing discussion around direct energy weapons after a journalist investigating Jeffrey Epstein's network reportedly fled to come. country claiming she was targeted while digging into the story.
Starting point is 00:01:01 From Ivana syndrome style claims to secret technology and intelligence connections, we'll explore why these stories are once again fueling conspiracy theories and public suspicion about what may be happening behind the scenes. Guys, welcome to the show. It is May the 27th, 26. And this is the X-Files theme. I think it's like a trap mix, which I did not know. And I was actually thinking about wrapping the intro, but decided that I will not
Starting point is 00:01:27 rap the intro. I'm not the greatest rapper. I got to be honest. No, you do pretty good. But I was also going to mention, and while we're talking about the Epstein files, how about Don Jr. marrying that chick. That's the bookkeeper or whatever for the Epstein files or the Epstein guy. Yeah, we're going to talk about that tonight as well. It just keeps getting stranger, right? This whole thing is very weird. And obviously, as I said in the intro, we now have body cam footage out from the police department that went to William McCaslin's house for those do you don't remember this story. He was a very high up government official that was tied to the UFO programs. Many people believe in particular Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
Starting point is 00:02:08 If anybody is in and around the UFO lore, you know Wright-Patterson Air Force Base has always been very well-known and famous because they believe, at the very least, after the Roswell incident, the Roswell UFO crash. That is potentially where the actual UFO and maybe even beings were taken. So McCaslin was connected to that. obviously there were many other scientists that also have either disappeared, killed themselves, or were murdered during the course of the past year or two. Some of them were like three or four years ago, but most of it seems to be centered around the past year or two.
Starting point is 00:02:42 There were some that wanted or not wanted, but that were going to go in front of Congress and testify because the House committee wanted them to come in and talk not only in front of Congress, but also in skiffs, which are private, top secret class. briefings. And so a couple of those people ended up dead. This whole thing's very strange, but it's even weird or what happened the night before William McCaslin disappeared. We're not going to talk about that yet. We'll talk about it when we play the video for you guys. But I think this will be a very interesting episode. Obviously, we were going to talk about the UFO files part two on the last episode. But I think many of you know how that went.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Oops. But anyways, before we get into tonight's story, we do want to remind you. you guys that we do have social media accounts so you guys can go follow us over on x instagram facebook wherever you typically spend your time on social media although i got to be honest there's been a lot of people saying i'm trying to stay away from social media as much as possible lately i completely understand that but we also do have a telegram channel where we do uh sometimes nightly or by nightly lives we'll come in hang out with you guys we'll talk about either upcoming stories or past stories or things that we didn't even know about and so all you got to do is just download the telegram app look for investigate earth conspiracy podcast and when we go live you will see it pop up it'll say live stream
Starting point is 00:04:02 started and it is audio you can do video if you want to but you don't have to you can just come in and if you want to talk you can if you don't then don't uh it's a cool place where we all like to hang out so without further ado i think what we want to go ahead and do is get into the video this is from law and crime and they do a very good job kind of highlighting everything as far as the body cam videos what was said, what was not said, the meeting that he attended the night before, which is one of the craziest parts of this whole thing. And so we'll talk about that right after this video. Before I even get into this footage, I got to set the scene. February 2026 in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Woman comes home from a doctor's appointment, she's gone less than an hour.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Her husband, a retired Air Force Major General, gone. Not strange yet. Maybe he went for a walk, but then she starts looking. His phone on the counter turned off. His smart watch plugged in the bathroom. The shirt he was wearing when she left hanging in the closet. He changed into something else. She doesn't know what. And her husband, this is William McCaskill, a retired Air Force Major General who used to run the research lab at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. That's who we're talking about. The same base that conspiracy theorists have claimed for decades stored debris from Roswell. You probably heard the theories, UFOs, government secrets.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But right now, we have something that cuts through all of that. Brand new body cam footage from the deputies who responded to his disappearance. He has a very classified security clearance. He was the head of Air Force Research Lab to the point. The next to the release. He's in that in depth. So he has a very high security clearance. And if you remember, William Neal McChasson,
Starting point is 00:05:55 is 68 years old, and as I said, retired major general United States Air Force. This isn't some random guy who wandered off. This is someone who spent 34 years working on some of the most sensitive technology the military has. Astronautical engineering, space acquisition, the National Reconnaissance Office, the spy satellite people. And eventually, he took command of the Air Force Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. That's the same lab that for decades, conspiracy theorists have claimed stored debris from Roswell. The Air Force has never confirmed that. But conspiracies aside, here's what we actually know about this situation. February 27th, Thursday morning, according to the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office around 10 a.m.,
Starting point is 00:06:35 a repairman shows up in McCaslin's home on Quail Run Court in Albuquerque, scheduled appointment, goes inside, interacts with McCaslin. That's confirmed. And about an hour later, at 1110 a.m., his wife, Susan, leaves for a doctor's appointment. She gets back just afternoon, 1204. He's gone. And at first glance, maybe he stepped out for a walk. He's an avid outdoorsman, hiking, biking, skiing, knew those Sandia foothills cold. But then she starts looking around.
Starting point is 00:07:02 His phone is still on the counter. His prescription glasses are sitting there. His smartwatch is abandoned. And his clothes, she knew what he was wearing when she left. She finds those clothes later in the closet. So he apparently changed into something else, something she can't identify. So she calls 911. And right away, she says something that stops you cold.
Starting point is 00:07:22 This is April. How may I help you? Hi, April. My name is Susan. Wilkerson. My husband is missing. Okay. And it's been about three hours, and I have some indication that he must have planned not to be found. He's left his phone.
Starting point is 00:07:39 He changed his clothes into, I don't know what. I think he's on foot. All of our cars and bicycles are in the garage. I left for a doctor's appointment at about 1110, and he was here at that time. at the house. And I got back from that at noon and he was gone. He turned it off and left it behind, which seems kind of deliberate because he's always got his phone. He has a smart watch. I don't know if that's with him or not. Has he ever done this before? Never. Nothing even remotely like it. He's a retired Air Force Major General. He's very
Starting point is 00:08:20 responsible, but he's also facing some medical issues. Do you have any video at your home? No. Has he been diagnosed with any mental disorders or anything like that? Well, we've been seeing a dock for both physical and mental in terms of anxiety, short-term memory loss, lack of sleep. The same dock I went to see today. Does he carry any weapons on him? Well, not generally. He does have a gun safe, and I went to look in the gun safe to see if anything was missing, but I couldn't tell if anything was. He has quite a number of pistols and rifles.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Other than saying if his brain and body keeps deteriorating, he didn't want to live like that. But it seemed to me that was just a man, I hate how this is going kind of thing, because I told him, yes, you do. Yes, you do. Okay. We're going to send some deputies up to talk to you, see if we can search a little bit and see what's going on. Okay? Sure.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Thank you. All right. So that was the 911 call. I want to break in just for a moment because as we have talked about when we actually covered this story a couple of months ago was the very eerie significance in the fact that leading up to his disappearance, he was having a lot of these mental issues. And for those that know anything about directed energy weapons or Havana syndrome, there was a lot of people that were affected by that, mostly intelligence or military personnel. And it originally, I believe, started in Havana, Cuba.
Starting point is 00:10:01 But then there were others that reported it happening in and around Russia and other countries and then also in Washington, D.C. Now, there are other people that have also said that they felt like they were the target of a direct energy weapon all across the United States. and we're actually going to talk about someone in just a bit. She is a primetime journalist who worked for major publications that has now fled the country because she said because of her investigation into Epstein, she knows that she was targeted by a directed energy weapon. Now, the most commonly reported symptoms of directed energy weapon or Havana syndrome is intense pressure in the head or ears, ringing in the ears or tinnitus, sharp headaches
Starting point is 00:10:42 or migraines, dizziness, vertigo, nausea, brain fog, and cold. confusion, memory problems, difficulty concentrating, fatigue, balance, and coordination issues, sensitivity to sound or light, sleep disturbances, anxiety, or panic sensations, filling vibrations or pulsing sensations in the body, and a sensation of heat or localized burning without visible injury. There's also people that claim that they hear strange directional sounds before symptoms start, sometimes described as buzzing, clicking, pulsing, or high-pitched frequencies. there's even been people that say that they heard voices in their head while they were the target of a
Starting point is 00:11:19 directed energy weapon. We've covered that on some episodes before where we know the CIA and intelligence organizations for a very long time have been working on developing things that can sway your mood, change your personality, make you think things that are not real, and maybe even lead you into suicide. The thing that I was kind of blown away with while I was researching this, and this is something that I did not see in the Epstein files before. But in the Epstein files, it talks about victims saying that they were the target of
Starting point is 00:11:49 energy weapons, they believed, and that it was so intense that Epstein or whoever that he had around him was using on them that it was trying to drive them to suicide. And that's truly what they felt like that this weapon was doing to them. So when you start hearing about this retired Air Force Major General and you start hearing about the fact that, you know, two months, literally, I think it was actually about a week after Trump announced the UFO files were going to come out, that they were going to start investigating this, the FBI, CIA. Obviously, you've heard a lot about how much the CIA and other government offices have been trying to push back on that, trying to keep a lot of this stuff
Starting point is 00:12:29 secretive or classified. But it is very interesting the timing of all this. He literally disappears a week after Trump announces, hey, we're going to start releasing the UFO files. and then not only his disappearance, but right before his disappearance, and after we start learning about at least 12, and actually how we counted it, I believe, was almost 15 people that have went missing or connected in some way to this. Well, we went back to 2022 instead of just the recent year too, and I think that makes a big difference.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But as you were going over some of those symptoms, I think a lot of us have those symptoms. And I was thinking to myself, wow, I wonder if they're doing that. to me because I have buzzing, I have fatigue, I have a lot of that. Yeah, but there's difference though. I mean, the difference is that it all of a sudden comes on and it almost goes from, it seems like, from everybody that's described it as you are a normal person one day. And then when this is when this program or this direct energy weapon starts on you,
Starting point is 00:13:30 that is when everything changes in your life to where it almost feels like you have either Alzheimer's or dementia all the sudden out of nowhere. And a lot of people actually think it's, you know, when they first get it, they think they're having a stroke. They think they're having something like a brain bleed because of the intense headaches in some cases. And obviously, you heard his wife in that. She said, you know, she said, look, you know, he was getting really sick of this. He was, it was something that was really starting to affect him in a lot of ways. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:57 And you could tell she was almost thinking, well, maybe he decided that it was so bad that he was just going to end his life because he couldn't live like that any longer. and that's why she checked the gun safe. Yeah, yeah. You know, and you talk about that Whitlock guy at David Whitlock. The same thing kind of happened to him. He was on his podcast or wherever he does his talking. And just the day before, he said, I am no way suicidal. I love life.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I love what I'm doing. And I'm in no way suicidal. And the next day, he blows his brains out in front of the cops. Yeah. It just makes no sense to me. Yeah, and that was a guy in Colorado. Yeah. I think there's been a couple of instances like that as well.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And also, you got to remember back the guy that I don't know if you guys remember, I cannot remember his name right off the top of my head, but the guy that had the Tesla cyber truck that drove it to Las Vegas. He left this manifesto, which basically says that he knows exactly what the, at that time, it was the New Jersey drones. He was saying something about that. He was saying something that he knew about the United States killing innocent civilians. And Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah, all this stuff. And then he was blaming Iran too. Yeah. And then supposedly, I guess he blows himself up. But the weird thing about it was is that this Tesla cyber truck blew up with him in it. And so there's a lot that doesn't make sense about that either because then some people have been like, well, did they even really find his body inside of that cyber truck? There was a lot of speculation and conspiracy around that because apparently there was a whistleblower within, I believe it was the Las Vegas police department that said that they don't even know that they actually necessarily found a body in that truck.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And so that was leaked. And so a lot of people were like, what the hell? And so some people, I guess they speculate that maybe he faked his death to flee. Yeah, because he thought that they were chasing him or they probably were because you remember he even wrote into Sean Ryan. And Sean Ryan felt terrible because he never replied or didn't get it soon enough to reply to him. And he read basically what the guy had wrote to him on his podcast. Yeah. And he was saying, you know, he felt really bad because this guy said if he doesn't flee and get out of the country, he's dead.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, they're going to kill him, which, you know, kind of sounds like they were trying to kill a lot of people. And this guy also had a lot of access. And I believe he had a top secret clearance. And so he was heavily involved in a lot of stuff. We don't 100% know everything he was involved in. But to me, it just almost kind of sounded like he faked his death potentially. And there was a lot of speculation. Like I said, and a whistleblower that came out and said that they believed that maybe he potentially did that as well and then fled the country.
Starting point is 00:16:28 We don't know. The eerie thing, and I'm pretty sure this piece will talk. about who William McCaslin met with the night before his disappearance, which is even crazier. Thank you very much. You're welcome, ma'am. But before deputies even arrived, before the body cam rolled, his wife did something else. She went public right there on Facebook. While the search was still in its first hours, she posted a plea for help.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And then as the theory started swirling, she posted again, this time addressing the rumors directly. quote, he retired from the AF, meaning the Air Force, almost 13 years ago and has had only very commonly held clearances since. It seems quite unlikely that he was taken to extract very dated secrets from him. And she also addressed the UFO connection, adding this part explanation, part sarcasm. It is true that Neil had a brief association with the UFO community through Tom DeLong, former frontman for Blink 182 and founder of the organization to the stars. Neil worked with Tom for a bit shortly after his Air Force retirement as an unpaid Neil's
Starting point is 00:17:28 choice, consultant on military and technical scientific matters to lend versimilitude to Tom's fiction book and media activities. Neil does not have any special knowledge about the ET bodies and debris from the Roswell crash stored it right, Pat, though at this point with absolutely no sign of him, maybe the best hypothesis, is that aliens beamed him up to the mothership. However, no sightings of a mothership hovering above the Sandia Mountains have been reported. And by the way, and that just, that whole thing is just a very strange writing from his wife and number one i do want to say this i mean there's likely no way that his wife knew actually at all
Starting point is 00:18:05 what he was ever involved with i mean as if you got such a high security clearance as he did when he was major general and if he was working with UFOs and or aliens or whatever there's no way that she knows what he actually was working on she kind of downplays it a little bit but it just sounds like she's naive she doesn't have any clue she's like well the only way that i know that he was involved in anything was with Tom DeLong, which is to the Stars Academy. He's the guy from Blink 182. And then he says, well, maybe the aliens beamed him up. And then you're thinking to yourself like, yeah, actually, that's very possible.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But she was being really sarcastic about it. If it were me, and I don't know, we come from different places in our life, I guess, but if it were me, and I'm saying everyone handles situations differently. But if something happened to you like that, and I knew maybe you were in the Air Force and you maybe dealt with some of that stuff, but I didn't know. I wouldn't be sarcastic about it. I'd be like asking for help and saying this possibly could be it. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I would be, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah, it's weird. I mean, at the very least, you know, you would think that she would have to kind of comprehend the fact of how secretive his job was for so long and how high up he was to the fact that now your husband has disappeared, something that usually doesn't happen to anyone in their lives. You know, fortunately, it does happen to some people. and there are obviously people that go off and kill themselves and then you'll find their body later on. But, you know, number one, this area where he actually disappeared to, it's pretty easy to kind of look over that terrain.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's not wooded pretty much at all. It's a desert landscape. They had dogs. They had everything and really never picked up on a scent. No, they did find a jacket, I thought. Well, yeah, they found a shirt. Jersey or something. No, they found an Air Force shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:49 But what I'm saying is they never picked up on any scents from him. they never picked up on anything in Fleer or thermal cameras from helicopters, which, you know, obviously depending on how long you would have been dead, is you would, you know, the colder his body got because it can actually get pretty cold in the desert at night, then it's going to be a lot harder to see. But it was just strange. And then you got to think about this too. And we talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah, maybe his house didn't have security cameras, which is also strange, especially someone of his stature, not having security cameras at their house, is weird. But, you know, if he took off walking and he lives in a neighborhood, I've kind of looked at the general area of where his neighborhood is on Google Earth, there are a lot of houses in that area. So, you know, it's just weird to me that they didn't see anything. And I'm pretty sure to this day, they had looked at all of the cameras they possibly could and they didn't see him whatsoever, if I remember correctly. So anyways, listen to some more. Post went up days after he vanished, and meanwhile, deputies were already on their way to the house.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And the first call a detective made wasn't to search the mountains. It was to a woman who had dinner with McCaslin the night before. Yeah. Into his favorite coffee shop right now to see if they've seen him. So I work with Mr. McCaslin on the Carlin partnership. He's a board member from Research Lab. Okay. And Thursday evening.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Okay. Thursday evening is he wasn't his usual self. He was kind of spacey and quiet. And, you know, the people side didn't put anything with it. Right. He left in his vehicle. Sure, he hasn't used his card out there. And he hasn't, he hasn't accessed based.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And I understand, Thursday evening, he was wearing. Okay. And he was wearing Lutrede. Right. Right. Is he carry like a security club? clearance or anything like that. He has a marriage.
Starting point is 00:22:51 He had us. Now, back at the house, a deputy is talking with McCaslin's wife. And she's... I want to stop for a second because, you know, this is the woman that met with him alongside Space Force, for whatever reason, they were meeting. And they met the night before. Now, I don't know who this woman is. She doesn't necessarily say who she is.
Starting point is 00:23:25 He said, I am working on a partnership with him or we're partnering about something. And we met with Space Force. Now, obviously, this woman must have a very high security clearance because she said, that she called Kirkland, the base, to check to see if his badge was ever, you know, tagged in. Yeah. So, like, see if he had been on the base. And she said no. But the question is, like, who is this woman is the big question?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Like, is she intelligence? Is she whatever? And then obviously she even talks about when he asked, does he have a security clearance? And she said, oh, yeah, he has a very high security clearance. And she, you can tell she, like, wanted to explain, like, how big of a person this was. Right. But then she like kind of stopped because she's like, no, I can't say that even to a police officer. And then obviously, if you go back to his wife's message on Facebook to where she says something about like he has very, you know, ever since he left Air Force, a very common security clearance.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Right. So this tells you. Yeah, this tells you again. She doesn't actually know. The wife doesn't actually know what he's still involved in. But I thought it was interesting and I might be just reading way more into it. But she said that she had called the base this morning. But the wife did not understand that.
Starting point is 00:24:34 he was missing until noon. Yeah, well, she got back at noon and she said first thing this morning, I think is what she said. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know if I'm reading too much into that, but that would be afternoon, not first thing this morning. Like, did she already know he was going to be missing and called before he saw or how did she find out? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Well, if she did that, that would be kind of dumb, but either way. So, yeah, so that's where we're at now. But obviously, when you hear the fact that Space Force and whoever this girl has met with him the night prior to him disappearing. And then she makes a point to tell the police officer, the sheriff's deputy, that he was kind of spacey and kind of seemed like he just wasn't himself. You know, she wanted to make sure to tell him that. To me, I mean, maybe that's true.
Starting point is 00:25:20 But also, if it isn't true, maybe she was saying that to cover for like what they had been doing. Yeah, what they had been doing to him previously and then kind of to fit the narrative of, you know, he was spaced out and his mom. He was not himself. Yeah, all that stuff. Starting to piece together a timeline. I wish we knew. I mean, the doctor has given him referrals to a neurologist, to a gastroenterologist,
Starting point is 00:25:49 gaspropologist, but those were just earlier this week. What is causing him to go to the doctor and getting those referrals, whatever shoes? in addition to some physiological changes within the hands to trements like his internal temperature regulation mechanism has gotten haywire all the time but for a guy who loves skiing and slipped on snow and a vivid bag is not good um so dementia is not a can't tell that. He's had anxiety. He's had breathing. I guess you call it fog, short-term maybe last, certainly. He's resigned from a board. He was on it back in Washington because he said he just couldn't keep off with what he didn't know. Then the deputy asks about weapons.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Do you guys keep in the home? Yes. But there's quite a few rifles and handguns that are in a gunside. How did you know if any of them were missing? Well, I kept it down sick. The first thing I noticed was, you know, I had to get the key to even open it, but it was unlocked, but it was shut. But I looked inside and I couldn't tell.
Starting point is 00:27:17 It doesn't, there's nothing obvious about what might be missing because I don't keep track of the other than against. Sorry, we're a lot of them. Yeah, kind of historic pieces. But he has functional guys. Then the detective on scene starts asking about where he might have gone. Is there any work any known to go? Like, does he say your platyists to like eat or go?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Well, I drove around. We have a friend about two miles away, and I drove to her house and knocked on the door. we have a key to her house but the key is here in the bedroom and she is in El Canstooli Oh wow So what's what's his barker?
Starting point is 00:28:08 He's 68 Now Does you have a new most I'd be if that's if I ran in Would he come back with that from here? From what? New Mexico driver was that this? Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:19 And so is there any like trails So is he free coins like her? Well, I mean, I drove up and a Elena Gayecois. I drove around our neighborhood. It's out of his house. She went off of you at all right. I mean, yeah, he's, maybe he hiked up Lalu.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So he's going to take the tram back. That's odd that he would have leaptic bun and swine and swage. And this is completely, like, out of the norm for him? Completely out of him. And then his wife brings up something that she mentioned on the 911 call. But here, she adds more detail, the trip that he was supposed to take, the friends, and what he was worried about. I mean, you'll see it all over the house preparations. He was going to a big picture ski hut next week with 17 friends.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Wow. I'll ski into kind of place. So there's food and here, and there's all kind of things out that he was setting aside for them. But he was worried that his physiology was going to let him down. John. Then questions turned to, how was McCaslin feeling? Have you noticed, like, just like his mentation? Has that been different?
Starting point is 00:29:41 Absolutely. Today, he had taken a drug that the doctor prescribed last night that was supposed to sleep with weight gain. He's lost about 20 pounds for no reason and with anxiety. And today he woke up and said, well, I've got better sleep, but it's like after effects of a bad hangover. I'm just foggy. I can't get any motivation to do anything.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And like I said, he was very clingy. He wanted me right beside him. I've been carrying some men by shoes. He's very, very active physically, and has always had a very sharp mind, a retired major general from Ph.D. from MIT. Oh, wow. And he's been feeling rainfall. Please have a sound. So anyway, today he was quite down and kind of clangy, which is unusual.
Starting point is 00:30:53 and I had a doctor's appointment. I remember looking at my car clock, I hacked out at 11-10 around noon and he was gone. And I found his phone turned off and left on his stand. I found his smartwatch floodbed in the bathroom. Cars are here. Bicycles are here. I found the shirt he was wearing when I left.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I don't know money. So this is the part where the deputy circles back on something that could have helped, a GPS device. McCaslin had one for backcountry trips, but his wife checks, and what does she find? You think this might have GPS, like, trekking? Two-way radio. Or it's his avalanche beacon. What is in-reach? In-reach is a second.
Starting point is 00:31:59 satellite communications cell phone in essence. It gives position every time it sends a message. And you can go back once you receive a message and even, I click on a connection and it will show you the track that has been followed. So it does talk to GPS. Yeah. And it also allows texts via satellite. With him?
Starting point is 00:32:28 since he deliberately left his phone and watch. Meanwhile, police also talked to neighbors, knocking on doors, looking for any camera that might have caught which way McCaslin went. And one neighbor mentions a tunnel, this hidden route, most people don't even know about. As you walk down the trail from San Rafael L.I and then go over, there's a great tunnel underneath where the all of the... They built new apartments in condos or something to the west side. So that's only been there probably about three or four years.
Starting point is 00:33:07 To me, it just seems like yesterday. But when we originally, I worked on a lot of the trails and all of this stuff and the lights and downlighting and the county and stuff like that. So when we put in that tramway trail, there's also on the black asphalt pavement, there's kind of a little walk place where you can also go down kind of into the wash or here. Okay. And underneath that, the reason why that all the setbacks or the way they are is because there is underneath a tunnel that we made, especially for a rider on a horse, because in the older days, that was the North Albuquerque Acres,
Starting point is 00:33:52 where everybody had horses. Up here, you just live with rattlesnakes. but over there, you know, the horse people. So we have a huge tunnel underneath that a rider can stick. Two riders can ride kind of side by side of breast on the horse and go underneath that tunnel. Okay. From that far side. And it goes underneath and this trail next to the black asphalt.
Starting point is 00:34:17 It's just kind of a little walking down slope. And that's where a huge tunnel for the riders to come through on their horses. then the middle of the trail goes up and then crosses Sims Park Road at a place where a rider can then ride on into Atlanta Gallegos. Then the neighbor adds something else, a warning about where that tunnel leads and who might have been living down there now. Yeah, that's what I've been hearing from some of the neighbors. From bobcats, cougars, bear, everything, but the bears, I don't know if they've broken up yet, but birds, lots of birds. But this is not an unusual place where... anyway, but that if he wanted to go down just a trail, the black asphalt trail,
Starting point is 00:35:02 underneath that tunnel, what I've been worrying about is homeless moving in there, because it's like a condo down there probably. Are there people living under there? I haven't been down there yet, but it's probably my next place to check. I want the county to check it out because, I mean, there's a network we don't even know about. Yeah. That, I mean, that's a great protected tunnel area because you know, because it was made for the horses and riders to go through,
Starting point is 00:35:26 and the cars go over the top of that bridge over there. So I would just say that's about the only one. And it's the one to ride across from the new... Well, you can see where the park road come up, and that's the city. That's the Atlanta Gallegos Trail. That's the Atlanta Gallegos Road going up to the wilderness area. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Police also speak with another neighbor. This is a man who used to work with Neil McCaslin. And what he says about the general, it paints a very specific picture. Yeah, he used to be my boss. He's a retired general. Air Force. I haven't seen him in forever. Okay. I mean, I seen him like once every year. I haven't seen him. I thought I saw Susan, his wife walking up the driveway a day or two ago, but I haven't seen in Caslin. Okay. Oh, my God. All right. He drives around on that yellow sports car and he's got like a rangeover, like, a day or African safari vehicle.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Oh, okay. You know what I mean? He was parked outside. He used to be my boss. The boss is boss's boss, which is hilarious. I briefed him back in 2000 when he visited Boston. So I think they had the house here, and I lived in Boston, and he came up to the air base. And I breed from the projects I had.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And he was this scary current. He's a PhD. I'm a PhD, but he's a PhD in some other science, engineering. And then he ran the scientific lab, and he's smart as hell. Yeah. And he's really straight-laced and, like, so he's a PhD. He's not a, if you walk, there's something, yeah, there's something wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Unless he had, unless they went for a walk and popped an end yours that were stroked out or something. But then you thought he'd be on the road. Yeah, he'd be on the bike path or the trail up. Right. Right. Oh, man. That same neighbor, the one who used to work for McCaslin, also mentioned something else. Cameras.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Next to the folks right here, they have a little entry where it's, it's, it's, It's a fenced in, but they have a ringtone camera. Right here, these guys, right behind that wall is their front door and a little patio. Oh, they have a camera that would see maybe the little gate they have. I thought this was, this not, uh, um, meals? Yeah. No, they were the next house. And then the house, yeah, the bigger house, like up the hill over the curb driveway.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah. And you'll see the extra, like, there's a, I figure it was called, like a big Range Rover thing. Yeah. And then, yeah, and then, you know, they have a fenced in your art. and they got a dog that they don't walk a lot of this, but he barks at night because he can see between the fence. Anyway, but, yes, he's two houses over. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Neil and Susie. Back at the trailhead, deputies are stopping hikers, showing them a photo, asking if they've seen anyone matching McCaslin's description. And there's one group that mentions a man with a walking stick oriented. I'm looking for a missing person, my chance. So I do got a picture. I don't know what he's wearing, though, unfortunately. Let's see, I thought I had a picture.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah, there it is. It's going to be the one in the black shirt. I don't think so. No. That wasn't the guy with a stick. He doesn't seem like he was lost, though. He didn't seem lost, but there was one guy with a walking stick. That kind of looks like it.
Starting point is 00:38:45 He might be. We're not sure yet. Okay. I'm not sure to be suicidal. He was oriented. He was very oriented. Yeah. How old was that?
Starting point is 00:38:53 to make and out. Yeah, it was like right at the beginning, like, he would have already been down here. Okay, he was coming down his way back. Yeah, he was probably. Okay. Do you guys see that person? Just call him and just let us know. Absolutely, I will.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I'll be cruising around. I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Meanwhile, a deputy's back with the K-9 handler, and they're trying to figure out where to even start tracking. The problem? They don't know which direction McCaslin left the house.
Starting point is 00:39:20 If we're dealing with someone who is suicidal at this point. like what are we what we make him so settled so she said the neural cultural thing he's having a very hard time of temperatures and he has a big scheme like snow trip
Starting point is 00:39:37 coming up with 17 friends and he's worried that he won't make it physically okay what about financial financial stuff to run away is there any hardship there
Starting point is 00:39:50 don't know of it Dom's leading question I don't think that's been asked yet. Because this is my thing, too, is like, I wanted to know exactly if they go on the walks, like, out here, like, if he's walking, she's hit on his trail,
Starting point is 00:40:04 that's a long ways to get to that, right? Just to get to the trail. I can possibly track him with a dog, but it would have to be from, like, a little spot where we know that this is probably we walked through. So if he's in the backyard, and scurrying up that way,
Starting point is 00:40:22 I can track him all the way. the cultural truck I've tracked up to a mile with him before. So I don't do it. Yeah. I'd probably just need, because I don't know if he's going to be crossing on the roads. He's done open stuff too. I need like a dirty pair of socks or something.
Starting point is 00:40:36 She has. He was wearing earlier today. That might work. We're going to canvas the area. If I can, if I can figure out like exactly where he had taken out from, like even, like if you walk through the backyard and they kind of went up this way,
Starting point is 00:40:53 and you do something like that? I'd never do that. Okay. So you'd basically stay on streets. He'd be leaving the property one way or another on Quill Run. I'll ask you for the clothes that he was wearing. Okay. And we'll go that route with it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I don't know if I have a good area to start that, so I don't think I'm going to be able to at this moment. Okay. If it gets to that point, then I'm able to track him with my dog here. Okay. I'm pretty sure, since Quill Room court is a cul-de-sac, and all you can do is kind of go toward tramway that he would have left that direction. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:30 So as you can hear, I'm sorry, by the way, about the dogs, but they- Well, I was going to say about the dog. Did they ask the dog what the dog knows because the dog act like he knew everything. No, the dog was just a yapper. Well, and according to the neighbor, he said he was a yapper too. Yeah, barked at night. But as you can hear from this police audio from the body cam, There obviously is no inclination of which way he went.
Starting point is 00:41:54 His wife did say that he would have used the road at the very least. And then there was that the one neighbor that used to, I guess, work with McCaslin or far under McCaslin. He was like a high, high, high up boss of one of his bosses said that, you know, very straight-laced guy. He would not have went and got lost or any of these things. That's just not who he was. But he specifically also mentioned the house right next to McCasland that had the camera. At least he knew that for sure house had the camera. But then as we have found out more, there were quite a few houses down that road or up the road,
Starting point is 00:42:31 whichever way he would have went that had cameras. And from what we understand, at least from what everything I have read, they have never seen McCaslin on a camera. Even when they actually approached these hikers that were leaving the trailhead of where likely he would have went into the trail system where he had always hiked, when they first showed him the picture or showed this family the picture they were like no i don't think that's the guy that we were thinking but we did see a guy that had a walking stick and two walking sticks yeah two walking sticks and a backpack and all this stuff and you know he looked very oriented and what they said was i guess this guy was leaving the trailhead and very close to the trail so he would have already been back by then so likely that guy was not who they were looking for it was likely
Starting point is 00:43:13 not mccaslin but either way this is all very strange and The reason why, and I think the most, I guess, damning thing of all this is his mental condition leading up to this. And I've said this over and over and over again. And it's not just with McCaslin, but the more we started finding out about all the other scientists that had went missing or killed themselves or were murdered, they had all experienced very similar things. And then you think about this reporter who was investigating Jeffrey Epstein. And now she says she is fleeing the U.S. after allegedly being attacked by a direct energy weapon. And this is on New York Post. Says a journalist who has reported extensively on late financier and sex offender Jeffrey
Starting point is 00:43:54 Epstein's notorious New Mexico ranch says she is fleeing the country claiming she was the victim of a direct energy weapon attack on or over her coverage. Elisa Valdez Rodriguez, a former Boston Globe and Los Angeles Times reporter who later became a bestselling novelist, said she abruptly abandoned her New Mexico residence. And by the way, New Mexico again. And this is where McCaslin lived. This is where a lot of very high up ranking officials that had very high clearances seem to live as New Mexico. But there's also a lot of very clandestine weird stuff that happens in New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Think about Roswell. Well, and think about Nancy Guthrie. But she disappeared from there as well. Yeah. Has not ever been found. There's nothing. No, you're 100% right. And it says here it says she became a best-selling novelist, said she abruptly abandoned her in New Mexico residence.
Starting point is 00:44:45 after suffering what she described as symptoms consistent with Havana syndrome. And it quotes, it appears my home has been located by, well, whomever is unhappy about my reporting about Zorro Ranch and the local cover up here and the military intelligence routes of the child sex trafficking operation. Jeffrey Epstein and Gis Lane Maxwell were running here in New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Valdez Rodriguez wrote last week on her substack. Now, it goes on to talk about, it says, quote, this morning I was hit in my home office by two episodes of what I later learned were likely direct energy weapon attack, she wrote. We wasted no time in leaving the house for good.
Starting point is 00:45:23 The Albuquerque New Mexico-born writer said she would be staying in safe houses while preparing to leave the United States permanently. There is no known public evidence support in her allegations. Valdez Rodriguez claims escalated sharply in subsequent post in which she alleged the attacks may have involved a backpack-sized weapon placed on or near her roof. by private military contractors. The second round of attacks seem to have come from the back of a large semi-truck that parked across from her house, she wrote.
Starting point is 00:45:53 These devices have gotten smaller now. Some are the size of large machine guns. And so this is the way directed energy weapons work. You got to get it close to somebody. They even have drones that have directed energy weapons now. And if they're not using drones, they could be using a vehicle. They could be using something like a backpack. the thing that kind of also raised my alarms with the McCaslin thing was the repairman
Starting point is 00:46:17 that came to his house that morning at about, what was it, I think, 10 o'clock in the morning. He likely disappeared sometime in between 11 and 12 because the wife got home at noon. And then thinking also back to, I know this is Nancy Guthrie. Nancy Guthrie is not really necessarily anybody of importance, although yes, Savannah Guthrie was heavily investigating Epstein. She was heavily tied to in particular, the one girl, what is her name? I can't remember Virginia. Virginia Jew free.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah, Virginia Jew free, she became very close with. Virginia leading up to the Trump administration that was going to release the Epstein files was saying that if they didn't release the Epstein files, she was going to go public and say all the names of everybody she knew because she was tied into all the victims. And I believe also Savannah Guthrie had a lot of this information. Now, the reason why I say all this kind of adds up a little bit is Savannah Guthrie, which is also missing, probably never to be found again. Nancy. Or Nancy, she had repair people come to her house the day of, and I believe also the days leading up to her disappearance.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And you remember they were really checking out something on her roof, like big time and didn't want anyone to know. And they also were checking out stuff on the backside of our house because they covered it so that reporters could not video what they were looking at. Yeah, and you remember, you know, this is the New Mexico desert. And you can ask anybody who lives out there. They have dust storms. They have, because they don't get a lot of rain out there for the most part, except for their little wet season. And so the wind always blows through this area. And usually the roofs of these houses look about the same as the outside and exterior, which is brown, which is why most of these houses are brown, number one for cooling.
Starting point is 00:48:03 But number one, it's literally just penetrated. If you had regular white siding in New Mexico desert, it gets peasant. penetrated by that dust and sandstorms from these windstorms or from these sandstorms. And don't you remember how when the drones and Fox News and all these people were flying over Nancy Guthrie's house, her roof was as white as you can possibly get it. And so from what we understand is that some of the repair people and contractors that had come to the house in the days leading up were on the roof at that time. So what were they installing in the roof?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Were they putting jammers in these camera systems or on the house? the roof to where either they could jam the camera systems around. McCausen also obviously he did not have a camera system, but we have to remember that from everything that we understand about the incident is that a lot of people's cameras that they were able to pull from the McCaslin disappearance didn't show anything, but there are jamming type of devices that can either delete or temporarily disconnect that service for that time period of when they're going to be either entering or. leaving that area to where you would never know it.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I mean, you could look through the footage and you're not going to see anybody, but you're also not necessarily going to see that that signal was disrupted. It's not always a squiggly line jamming type thing, which literally there are low-level criminals now that have jamming devices that if they come to your house, as they get closer to your front door or wherever your camera is, you'll see these squiggly lines in this like fuzz almost like, you know, like a TV station is out. that's what low-level criminals have. So imagine what military or government contractors have.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Exactly. But I'm just wondering when he went to the doctor with all this fogginess and all this funny stuff going on with his body mentally and physically, was he thinking it could be a directed weapon at him like this reporter? Because right off the bat, she's like, yep, I know what this is. And I found stuff. Was he even thinking that in his mind being who he is? I would think that he would think. about that, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah, for sure. And I want to play the, or not play this. I want to read this. This is Elisa Valdes Rodriguez. This is her substack account that she had posted this article May the 19th, so not very long ago. And this is when, you know, obviously after this, she said that she has been experiencing these directed energy attacks these Savannah Syndrome. And her article says Jeffrey Epstein was CIA. The communications network at Zora Ranch proves it.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And it says the DOJ's own files show Epstein built a military grade encrypted link to seven. satellite orbit at Zorro Ranch. The contractor who built it now holds a Pentagon missile defense contract. And so in March 2016, a Stanley New Mexico rancher named William, set down and wrote a straightforward technical memo. He had been asked by Bryce Gordon, ranch manager of Jeffrey Epstein Zora Ranch, to evaluate options for a new internet connection at the property. William knew the area, knew the terrain, and knew exactly what was available.
Starting point is 00:51:02 He laid out three options. Plan A was ideal. tap into the Singleton Ranch's existing fiber feed site, just a short distance away, where a gigabit fiber available and a clear radio shot. The Singleton negotiation was already underway. William had been in contact with Vito, the Singleton manager, who had briefed the family CenturyLink contacts and confirmed gigabit availability in the Galisto area, and this was a clean, fast, affordable solution estimated between $75,000 and $150,000 to build with monthly service cost,
Starting point is 00:51:35 that were entirely manageable. And then plan B was a solid fallback. Find any nearby property with CenturyLink gigabit fiber access, lease it, and build a short microwave hop. William had done exactly this on his own ranch. He called it the best alternative. And then plan C was Sandia Crest, the 10,620 foot peak visible from Albuquerque 27 miles away. William was direct about it.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Difficulty of access, expense, and such a large distance makes it less than ideal for a point-to-point radio shot, he wrote. It would require incredibly expensive industrial military-grade equipment. Signal throughput would be no better than 30%. Within 48 hours of receiving William's report, Jeffrey Epstein had made it his choice. He chose Plan C. So the documents recorded that choice and everything that followed are sitting in the DOJ's publicly available Epstein File Archive. They've been there since the files were released. Almost no one has read them. What they reveal is not merely a connectivity decision. It is the operational signature of an intelligence asset building covert communication infrastructure surrounded by men who built him,
Starting point is 00:52:40 protected by the institutions that owned him, and connected literally through a satellite uplink with direct-to-orbit authorization to wherever his handlers needed the data to go. And so it quotes, We don't need 1G. The email thread begins on March 22, 2016, when Bryce Gordon forwarded Williams' report to Epstein, copy in Richard Kahn of HBRK,
Starting point is 00:53:03 associate to 575 Lexington Avenue, New York. Khan was not a ranch facilities manager. He was Epstein's New York-based project coordinator, and his involvement in a rural New Mexico internet installation tells you everything about what this project actually was. Epstein's response arrived for the following morning in two messages at 704 a.m. He says, we do not need a gigabyte K install silly. The garbled characters are typos. He meant it's silly at 7.57 a.m.
Starting point is 00:53:31 A second message, we shoot Dragon, Wave further makes little sense. Now, Dragon Wave is not consumer equipment. It is carrier-grade military specification microwave backhaul hardware used by telecom operators and government networks. It's defining property its hardware, level AES encryption
Starting point is 00:53:49 built into the radio layer. Below the IP stack, invisible to standard network monitoring combined with hardware bound authentication that makes interception effectively impossible. So Epstein was not asking about Dragonwave because he had looked it up. he was referenced in the existing Dragon Wave infrastructure he already had at Little St. James,
Starting point is 00:54:08 his private island in the United States Virgin Islands. He was asking why the same architecture couldn't simply be extended to New Mexico. And he was doing it at the moment he was moving his entire center of operations from the island to the ranch. Coincident with the Southern District of New York and the Miami Herald both digging into his child sex trafficking operation. Epstein guesses correctly the New Mexico would never subject him to any scrutiny. On March 25th, Epstein told Gordon that if technical difficulties arose, they should bring in the LSJ guy, which is Hector Centron, who worked for Choice Communications in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Now, Centron appears directly in the project correspondence that followed. The island infrastructure and New Mexico infrastructure were being designed and managed as one unified system.
Starting point is 00:54:54 So a man who wants high-speed internet for a vacation ranch does not call Gigabat bandwidth silly. A man who wants a specific, narrow, encrypted channel for transmit in particular data to a particular destination does. This was not, as some people have said in the comments on the previous two Epstein Zora Radio Tower stories I've done, Rich Guy Internet. Epstein dismissed bandwidth twice because bandwidth was never the point. Spying was. So the company selected to design and build the Zora Ranch is Sandia Crest System, was Future Technologies Venture LLC, headquartered in Sawani, Georgia. as with the architects and the builders of the ranch's main house they are primarily military industrial contractors and among their largest clients is the Pentagon so also in all of this is it's pretty damn apparent and i don't want to read the entire thing i will post her link to the substack honor x if you guys want to read the entire thing is pretty long sorry if it sounds kind of boring but the the whole point of this is this is the woman that is fleeing the country because she now says that she's being targeted by directed energy weapons
Starting point is 00:55:57 Well, the interesting thing also about this type of technology as you dig in a little bit is that this type of technology and companies like this that build this type of technology also potentially work on top secret directed energy weapons, which is also very interesting. And considering the fact, if you think about McCaslin, New Mexico, you think about Nancy Guthrie, think about her that also lived in New Mexico. And she's this huge writer. she was literally uncovering all kinds of crazy shit that Epstein was involved in, especially at Zora Ranch, because that's where she was primarily focused in her reporting. The interesting thing is, is that when the Epstein thing was happening in Zora Ranch, when Epstein started to be investigated, the United States government came along and stopped the, I think it was, I can't remember what Sheriff's Department it was, but they completely stopped
Starting point is 00:56:48 them from investigating any claims to Zora Ranch. they were not allowed anywhere close to that property as the sheriff's department in this county. Yeah, because he probably was dealing directly with the government and the government probably knew everything he was doing. Yeah, well, he was dealing with multiple governments, obviously, as you see in the files. I mean, it was Mossad, it was CIA. It sounded like it was more Mossad almost than anything because there was more mention to that than the CIA by a long shot.
Starting point is 00:57:13 But either way, you know, he has this Zora Ranch. And now the just, I think it was like a month ago, the same sheriff's, department that was basically cut off from any investigation into Epstein and the DA in the same county are now trying to open up another investigation to get access to Zora Ranch because for those that don't know, Zora Ranch was literally never even investigated. They wouldn't let anyone on that property to investigate Zora Ranch because it sounds like Zora Ranch was where whatever government was operating out of on behalf of Epstein. And it seems like that was probably like the main headquarters because it was
Starting point is 00:57:51 was precise about where these polls went and they were hidden and everything had to be exactly the way he wanted it. Yeah. And, you know, also, too, in the interview where Epstein was, you know, he was in that interview. I can't even remember who was interviewing him now. Oh, it was Steve Bannon is who was interviewing Epstein. And when he's sister and start talking about Los Alamos and he knew so much about Los Alamos and kind of just that whole system.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I mean, we're talking about the place that Bob Azar said that you were before. he went to S4. Yeah, I don't think he was just a banker or helped the rich with their money. I think he had way more stuff going on besides just being a banker and handling people's money and blackmailing them. I think he was into all this UFO stuff or other technologies because if you look at and research the Epstein files, you'll see he talks to a lot of university professors. Yeah. And he has dinners and he donates money to them. and they do some type of experiments for them.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Like, I know there was a lady from Clemson that, crazy enough, she researched, I think, rat butts. Actually, that's what she, her research was in was something to do with rat butts. And he had donated to her as well. Yeah, absolutely. And then you have, I do want to mention this too, because I don't want to forget this, but Don Jr. just married Jeffrey Epstein's banker's daughter. Listen to this post real quick. He is all one big club.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Don Jr. didn't just marry any girl this weekend. He married the daughter of Jeffrey Epstein's personal banker. Tina Anderson is the daughter of Harry Anderson, who was the president of Palm Beach National Bank, worked closely with Jeffrey Epstein to the point where he even wrote a letter praising Epstein's integrity for business development. I wonder if this is the real reason that President Trump didn't go to the wedding. and why Melania and Barron didn't go either.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I think they learned a thing or two from the Clintons about attending weddings with Epstein Associates. Then again, why does it even matter? Howard Lutnik, who was Epstein's neighbor, was appointed by Trump to be our Secretary of Commerce. Since the files came out, nothing's happened to Bill or Bill. But it was reported today that a journalist Elisa Valdez Rodriguez, who was investigating Jeffrey Epstein's New Mexico property, otherwise known as Zora Ranch, is fled. fleeing the U.S. after claiming she was targeted by direct energy weapons in her home.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Yes, there you go. So Don Jr. married a very close confidant to the Epstein. I guess you can say pool or ring or whatever you want to call the Epstein. Is it his ex-wife that's dating Tiger Woods? Tiger Woods. Yeah. Yeah, his ex-wife, which is Kai Trump's mother, is dating Tiger Woods. But the interesting thing about it is Don Jr., which, you know, he marries this girl,
Starting point is 01:00:46 which her father was very, I mean, he was literally connected extensively to Jeffrey Epstein. He was the guy that was over one of Jeffrey's main banks. Likely, who knows what the hell and how he was helping Epstein with all of that stuff. Don't you just think that's all crazy? Yeah, but then, you know, Trump says that he's not going to be attending, you know, his son's wedding because he had to work on something at the White House, this Iran deal. But whatever, regardless, like if you don't go to your son's wedding, like, You can't just go to your son's wedding.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I think they, whoever told him, yeah, you probably just want to sit this wedding out because they're going to use this shit like crazy. Oh, yeah. But I think he said they were going to celebrate them later at the White House. Yeah, I'm sure. But either way, we still don't know, you know, Trump's involvement. We do know that Trump called Epstein follows a hoax. That's what we know as of right now. And so there you go.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Now, I want to play one last piece for you guys. And this was on the Dana Jones show. This is a clip. but this guy knows a lot about directed energy weapons in particular and he says the United States has a microwave weapon to where it'll literally fry your brain and so he knows extensively how this weapon operates and works and this not this doesn't necessarily I guess tied to Havana syndrome it could at lower frequencies or lower levels but this is what the United States has access to introduced to the
Starting point is 01:02:15 former CIA officer who is known by many as patient zero, the first guy that was struck by Havana syndrome in Cuba in 2016. And I went and visited him and his family, who they live in a very remote place. That's all I'll say about that. I went out and spent like a day and a half with them. And I wanted to see if there was more reporting that can be done on this topic. Havana syndrome was at that time and still is controversial. So, of course, I'm digging on that to see if there's more that can be written about it or should be written about it. A high level for people that aren't aware of it. Just explain what it is.
Starting point is 01:02:55 It's a story that sounds nuts, but it's true. We had a small CIA station in Havana, Cuba. Around 2016, during the Obama administration, we were normalizing relations with the Cubans. and the CIA decided to get a little bit more aggressive in how they recruited sources, that they were going to start approaching more people in Cuba and trying to do more recruiting. One day, this source of mine, his name is Adam in the article we wrote, which is not his real name. The CIA won't let him use his real name publicly in association with the organization. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Is that common? I would not say it's common, no. Most people have their cover rollback and they'll say, hey, I'm Joe Smith and I was in the CIA. Right. This is sort of a unique situation. So he's not allowed to publicly say, like be in front of a camera and say he worked for the CIA? He cannot say his real name. Oh, he can just not say his real name.
Starting point is 01:04:03 So he can have a fake name and be like, oh, hey, I worked for the CIA. You can say, I'm Adam and I worked for the CIA. Got it. I understand. I know the laws and the rules are kind of silly. And I don't really know who they're protecting or aimed at protecting at times. But he was, went home at the end of a day while he was in Havana, was laying down on his couch. I believe it was watching.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's always sunny in Philadelphia on his laptop. And suddenly he had this loud noise that he started getting barraged with. He described it as it's like sticking a number two pencil in your ear. It hurt that badly. It went on through the night. He had blood coming from the ears, blood coming from the nose when he woke up. And that went off and on. And he would be second guessing himself at certain times like, oh, you know, the Cubans have bugs.
Starting point is 01:05:01 The homes they're staying in are bugged. They know that. And you sort of thinking like, oh, maybe they're listening in on me or something. and that's all it is. So it kind of like ignored it at first. But it got worse and worse. And then other people in the embassy started coming forward with very similar symptoms, with a very similar story to Adams.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And that's when he realized like, this is systemic. Like this is something that's being done against us deliberately. And I can say that I know through sourcing that the Cubans were working with the Russians to do this, that they were pulsing. these CIA officials with very quick pulses of microwaves, like hundreds or thousands of pulses a second that creates a sort of cumulative effect inside the human cranium. And it leads to vestibular issues. A lot of symptoms that have similarities to traumatic brain injuries. So people having vertigo, headaches. And from the time that this started in 2016 in Cuba,
Starting point is 01:06:04 it then sort of exploded globally. You started having people at the embassy in Austria, the embassy in Beijing having these problems. We have stuff happening in Vietnam, Indonesia, India. What about Moscow? Yes. Mark Palomaropoulos, which is his real name he's allowed to use. He got hit in Moscow. He went to Russia on a sort of official trip.
Starting point is 01:06:30 So the Russians know he's a CIA officer. and he's declared, right? Declared. And he's going there to do liaison. They're going to have a meeting. I don't know what the meeting was on some sort of cooperation, probably counterterrorism stuff. He went there and he got hit in his hotel room. Got blasted.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Wow. And he's still dealing with the effects of that today. So this thing went global. And our government has lied through its teeth about it. They have gas lit the survivors about it. All sorts of really nasty stuff that has gone on. I mean, that article we wrote is pretty extensive. But I'm here to say, I know Havana syndrome is real.
Starting point is 01:07:18 When you cut through all the lies and all the bullshit, something was really done to these people. And our government failed to respond to it in a timely or meaningful manner. In fact, they're still trying to cover it up to this day. And this next part is a little bit of speculation because no one really knows why our government has worked so hard to bury this other than maybe career incentives that just make a scam. I mean, right. We already let MK. Ultra out. And that's different. I mean, we were doing unethical testing in that case.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Yeah, testing innocent people with drugs. Right. And in this case, it's our people being hit and targeted by a foreign adversary. And we're hiding that. Yeah. So the, but is it a foreign adversary? That that's that's the question, right? Like if the United States government does everything in their power to cover this up of our own people being hit by these microwave weapons.
Starting point is 01:08:15 And then think about this. Then we go to Venezuela. Look at what I wrote down, Venezuela. Yeah. Then we go to Venezuela and Trump is literally on camera bragging about the discombobul later, which is a directed energy weapon. And they were bleeding out of their eyes and nose. They were bleeding out of their eyes and nose.
Starting point is 01:08:36 There were over 200 guards that were completely overtaken. And by the way, I don't know if you guys saw, but most of those guards in Venezuela were Cubans, which is interesting. They were all Cubans because Venezuela, I guess, had a deal with Cuba that if they protected Maduro, then they would do whatever for Cuba. So, you know, that's how it was pretty damn easy for the special operations. group to go in and get out. They, as they're landing, they're hitting all of these guards with these with these directed
Starting point is 01:09:06 energy weapons. They're all bleeding out of their nose. Their their eyes or everything. I mean, they're probably hitting them with this dose that you came to imagine. So they literally have zero chance to defend themselves whatsoever. But and then Trump also talks specifically about this weapon to where he says that we are the only country in the world that has weapons like this. We are the greatest country in the world because we are.
Starting point is 01:09:29 We have weapons that can completely enable or disable you. But yet here you have this guy on Data Jones talking about it was Russia that was doing this to all of our CIA guys. Or was it another U.S. experiment leading up to our technology that we now have? I don't know. But it was also done in Cuba in 2016. And if you go back to the reporter substack of when Epstein was building all this stuff in New Mexico, that was also 2016. Yeah. And was Epstein involved with energy directed weapons?
Starting point is 01:10:05 Was he involved in all this stuff? Because he had all this weird stuff coming to this property in Zorro, the Zoro Ranch in New Mexico. Yeah. Same year, 2016. Yeah, but he also knew, like I said, he also knew a lot about Los Alamos, all these various, very top secret bases. I mean, there's a lot to be said about this. Oh, and in the files, they say that that was happening to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And the Epstein files. Yep. Let's listen to a couple more minutes to this. The speculation when I talked to CIA folks is that essentially it became a personnel issue in the sense that there were already CIA officers telling their bosses like, you know, they're slated to get deployed to, not deployed, but stationed in Kazakhstan, in, you know, wherever, wherever it is in Mombasa. but the CIA guy who was just there came back blasted, microwaved out of his mind. And so this guy is seeing that and his wife is seeing it. And his wife's like, we're not going there. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 01:11:10 So this had the potential to shut down CIA human intelligence operations globally. If we just could not work out of embassies anymore, if we could just not send American spies abroad anymore. because this weapon is very interesting in that it's not an assassination weapon. You're not killing someone. So you're not going over that threshold to lethal operations. But what you are doing is you are rendering. And I'm sorry for the term, I mean, but they'll tell you themselves. It renders you mentally incompetent.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Like you can't remember anything. You can't do your job anymore. So what you're doing by hitting people with this weapon is you're taking chest pieces off the board. One by one. They can't be deployed. They can't go anywhere. They can't work as intelligence officers. Because you're creating this deterrent for the people that are aware of it.
Starting point is 01:12:00 They don't want to travel anymore. Right. So one component of it is the actual physical attacks. And then there's another component that is like a psychological operation. Right. And yeah, I mean, I'd really emphasize that, yeah, our government was and is lying about it. And it is real. I know it sounds like science fiction, but there is a weapon that one of these microwave weapons,
Starting point is 01:12:25 was surreptitiously acquired by the U.S. government. The Department of Defense was testing it. And there was a recent reconsolidation of the committees that were investigating Havana Syndrome. And the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of War, as he prefers to be called, Pete Heggseth, was initially early on in this administration pretty aggressive about wanting to get to the truth. And then something changed.
Starting point is 01:12:52 And I don't know. Ratcliffe is... I was really worried about a Kentucky senator. Yeah. I mean, listen, your guess is as good as mine with these people. But, yeah, the Havana syndrome was a really hard story to report on. I bet. One of the most difficult ones I've ever worked on.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I think Sean would tell you the same. Well, we had those, you know, during like the Philadelphia experiments and all that, you know, when we were doing all those experiments with those types of weapons, right? Like we were experimenting on sailors, on ships, right, with like beaming these weapons where they were, they're more like crowd control type weapons, right? Oh, right. Elrad. That's LRAD, right.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Right. Yes, LRAD, right. Which is, you know, it's kind of similar, not exactly the same. Right. So do you think it's possible that we, like, who do you think got this stuff first? I think the Russians invested heavily in microwave weapons. in a way that we didn't. And I've been told the Russians tend to use technology we have, but in different ways
Starting point is 01:13:59 than we would. So I think the, yes, that the Russians got interested in directed energy a lot sooner than we did and have pursued it more aggressively than we have. However, I did another story about how we have a somewhat similar weapon. It's the guys that use it, call it the behavior. adjustment device. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Perfect. It comes in like a Pelican hard case. You open it up. It has a control unit, a battery, and a dish that's a little bit bigger than a tambourine. So it looks sort of similar to the LRAD. And what that does is it beams microwaves over 100 feet. And what it's designed to do, the way we use the technology, the idea behind it. And I don't have any accounts of us actually using it.
Starting point is 01:14:52 real life. Just some rumors that guys maybe flipped it on in Iraq. But yeah, maybe. But I do know people who have deployed with it and know how it works and what it does. And so the idea being that if you had terrorists hiding in a safe house or something like that, you would bombard them with these microwaves. It would make them very uncomfortable. And that would induce them to do one of two things. get them, blast them out of the safe house, get them up and moving, and now you can follow them see where they're going, or to get them up on comm. So they start making phone calls, which they can be intercepted. So, again, the behavior adjustment device.
Starting point is 01:15:35 There you go. And I just wanted to play that because that kind of explains how some of these direct energy weapons work. But like this guy's saying, this is Jack Murphy talking, you know, saying that, well, we have something similar. No, we have probably the weapon, probably. in the entire world. And, you know, one thing also that you don't really hear a lot of is like the Ukraine-Russia
Starting point is 01:15:55 war. You've not really heard any reports of any of this stuff being used in that war. Yeah, but he also said that Russia uses the technology differently than we do. What do you think he means by that? No idea. I have no idea. They use it differently. Like, how do they use it differently?
Starting point is 01:16:12 Like, there's one way to use it. You use microwaves to screw up some of these brain, basically. Yeah, I mean, and just like I said, I mean, Trump has bragged about this. I mean, he's, you know, openly bragged about discombobulator in how they used it in Venezuela. And as Jack Murphy says here, he's like, well, you know, it's not to kill anyone. But the reality is, I don't know. We do know there was over 200 guards at Maduro's palace. We know that all of those guards or 99% of those guards came back in boxes off of an airplane.
Starting point is 01:16:43 And I'm not talking about caskets. I'm talking about little, like, boxes that you would use to move. so I'm guessing that this I mean I would assume they I guess cremated all of them because you know it was like a very formal recession when they got all of these guards
Starting point is 01:17:01 off the aircraft that landed in Cuba and they had these little boxes they had the flag over each of them and there was a lot of boxes coming off that plane and so I'm guessing they cremated them but all these people died somehow I don't know if they died from the discombulator or not but you know if you have something
Starting point is 01:17:18 that is so strong like that and you turn and crank that thing up. If you're bleeding out of your eyes and your ears and your mouth, something's going on. Yeah, you're hemorrhaging. Yeah. So likely you're dying. So now I wonder what's the difference between that and the behavior adjustment device. Another words would be called bad.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It's probably the same thing. Yeah, it's probably the same thing. I mean, it's literally probably the same thing. They can probably crank up the, you know, whatever, the volts or however you want to say this but we know they used it in Venezuela and guys what I'm trying to explain to this is is that all of these people all of these people that have disappeared went missing whatever the United States needs to be either heavily looking in this even though Trump came out and said well we don't think they're connected in any way they just kind of downplayed all of it although we know they're all
Starting point is 01:18:08 connected because they all work in very similar fields they all have at one point in time said they were not suicidal or whatever. And then not long after they said this, they disappeared or they got murdered or they killed themselves in a very unusual way. So, I mean, what I'm saying is is that we're obviously hiding it. We're downplaying the scientists that have disappeared. And then, you know, McCaslin and a lot of the people that were either found to be suicided or went missing had a lot of these same symptoms.
Starting point is 01:18:46 I mean, a lot of these same symptoms. And in particular, symptoms that said that they felt foggy. They couldn't remember shit. Savannah syndrome is what they were experiencing. But I'm just wondering this reporter that is hiding in safe houses now and is trying to get out of the country. No, he's not a reporter. No, no, I'm talking about the lady that you wrote her, read her substack.
Starting point is 01:19:08 You know, she's the one that's, you know, now hiding. and safe houses and trying to get out of the country and will permanently remove herself from this country because she feels like it happened to her. My question is, if it could happen to her in New Mexico, could it not happen to her in Kiev or anywhere? Kiev? Why did you bring up? Why the hell would she go to Ukraine?
Starting point is 01:19:33 I just, that's definitely not a place you want to go. I just picked a place anywhere. Well, I don't know. I mean, likely it depends on if they track her and trace her. And if they're that adamant on trying to get her to shut the hell up, you know, that's the big thing. But who knows? At the very least, she feels like she's having those experiences. And, you know, could it be in her mind?
Starting point is 01:19:53 We don't know. But I'm just saying that shit exists. This weapon exists. It is used on our own guys. It could be from us, who knows? And at the very least, all these scientists have disappeared. I think that there is a connection to direct energy weapons and their disappearances or their suicides or whatever you want to say. So I did wait we did just want to come on and give you guys an update on the McHawson story.
Starting point is 01:20:16 The UFO files briefly there are videos out there which I think we're going to have to do an entire episode kind of covering that. We still need more. I mean, we don't have alien bodies. We don't have any proof of biologics. We do have people like Gutfeld and Jesse Waters and all of these people in particular on Fox News that is coming out and trying to tell you that they have four different species of aliens. you know, a lot of the same species we've heard about before. I'm Bob Lazar's documentary. Yeah, like the Nordics and the reptilians and the whoever, the prey and manuses.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I mean, they're starting to put this in mainstream media and they're starting to talk about it. I mean, I think my mom even heard about this, which is crazy. So obviously, she had to have heard about this on her nightly news after her local news. And so anytime I hear someone hearing about this on their nightly news, the NBC nightly news or whatever it is, they're trying to tell you for whatever reason wasn't NBC I think we figure it out that they might be bought out CBS yeah which is so crazy because on our local channel 4 NBC station after a lot of the shows now it has the CBS emblem so that's pretty wild I don't know I'll have to look into that more we just we saw that the other day and we're like damn did CBS buy NBC like which is nuts I mean that would be
Starting point is 01:21:36 kind of crazy but either way um i guess that's going to do it for this episode guys we have a lot to talk about we there's so much stuff going on right now we're waiting to see what's going to happen with the iran situation trump is allegedly working on a deal but it seems like net and yahoo's trying to screw that deal up there's been multiple talks between net yahoo and trump but you know in trump every once in want kind of acts like that you know net and yahoo listens to him but who really knows and then we got the russia ukraine situation heating back up from what we're hearing is that russia may imminently attack the major cities in ukraine and we're talking about kev and don basque and some of the other regions and they're going to hit him hard from what we
Starting point is 01:22:22 understand i mean they're they're threatening like massive missiles hitting their city centers completely destroying their cities we don't know if that'll happen but you know hey we're on the verge of that stuff really starting to escalate again what will happen with that with trump in the white house and plus we got all this attention on iran trump's even talked about taking over cuba uh we're already i don't know we just landed a bunch of ospreys and other military vehicles in venezuela again and so we don't know what the hell's going on there there's just so much going on i don't i don't even know how to explain all of it but either way um that's going to be it for us we'll be right to back with you in a couple of days.
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