Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - World War 3 Imminent | Israel Palestine War The Fuse? | Special Guest Bob

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

The world is undergoing rapid transformations, leading to growing concerns about the possibility of World War III. The specter of a nuclear conflict looms, threatening to upend life as we know it. In this episode, we welcome Bob, who is Sheri's brother, as our guest on the podcast to share his insights on the swiftly evolving global scenario. All of this and more on this episode of World War 3 Imminent | Israel Palestine War The Fuse? | Special Guest Bob

Standing on the crater like the prophets once said And the ashes are all cold now No more bullets And the embers are dead Whispers Hello and welcome to Investigator Earth Podcast I am your host Chad and my beautiful wife is not going to be on this intro tonight, but this is going to be a short intro guys and girls.

Welcome to the show. It is about 1038 p.m. here on the east coast of the United States when I am recording this intro. Sherry's been sick for the past week, so she is going to forego this intro, but we have Sherry's brother on this podcast. We talk about the very real potential of a World War III scenario. We also talk a little bit more about the Israel Hamas conflict, the pro-Palestinian pro-Hamas, really a pro-terrorist movement inside of the United States of America as we are seeing it.

Is democracy dead? Is America dead as we know it, guys? That's what we're going to talk about. We get into a lot of stuff on this episode, and it is a two-hour episode. I think it is very thorough. I think we get into a lot of stuff. I think that you guys need to listen to this.

Bob is very smart with what he talks about and what he understands and what he knows about the history of the area, but also the world. He does a lot of... He's one of those people. Like, if you want to know about history, you want to know about the way the world works

and the way the world used to work. A lot of his basis comes on history. And if we kind of look at what we're going through right now, we're kind of repeating history, as Bob said, in this episode. but nonetheless I do want to let you guys know that our family the people that are very close-knit to us

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the soldiers for the fight against the globalist, the evil system that we're really up against. So that further ado. Here's Bob. All right, guys, we are back. We are here with Bob. Sherry's brother, Bob, how's it been going? Hey, Chad. Hey, Sherry. How you doing?

We're doing good. We are doing fantastic. It's so good to talk to you again. Yeah, absolutely. It always makes me nervous to talk to my big brother for some reason. Really? I don't know why. That's funny.

Bob, so last time we had you on, obviously we talked about the Israel-Hamas war situation, which obviously a lot has been going on with that whole conflict in the Middle East. we've had three or four episodes. Your episode, obviously with us, has gotten a large amount of listeners. And a lot of people really respected and appreciated your viewpoint and history on the conflict and just basically the history of that area. Since that podcast, we've obviously had a lot of things go on, right? We have this massive pro-Palestinian movement inside of the United States of America.

We've had literally people that are throwing up signs for in support of not just Palestine, but Hamas. We even have people in other parts of the country that have ISIS flags, right? It's just like the thing to do, it seems like today is support terrorism, although they're trying to switch the narrative and turn things around and say, hey, this is Israel. That's terrorist, not Hamas. But before we get into any of that, obviously you have visited Israel before. We talked about that on the first episode, and you are Jew yourself, right? Yeah, I'm Jewish. That's right. So what is your thoughts being a American Jew that is living inside of the United States right now,

and you're looking around, you're seeing the news reports, you're seeing the videos, you're seeing everything that's going on? Like, for example, there was a video the other day that had this Jewish student, and I'm not even positive what school it was. Cornel? Or Cornell? One of them. Yeah, and they were like in, in certain.

circling this student with the white blankets shouting shame and this and all this stuff. I mean, you know, if you want to talk about hate crime or something, that would, you know, probably classify you would think there's a lot of people to get charged of hate crimes for less. What is your thoughts when you see this in America as far as just this pro? I mean, you can understand, I guess, pro-Palestinian civilian movement, but when they're, it's almost like that's not what they're really protesting for. They're really more so. It seems like protesting for almost pro-terrorism, right?

Well, yeah, so it's pretty complicated, and it's fairly one-sided when you watch the news. I mean, it's pretty shocking if you think about it. It's almost as if the major news channels on television and both in the United States, in Great Britain, and outside of those mostly Western media, Canada, as well. well, you get a one-sided picture of what's going on, not only in the United States, but also in Israel, in Gaza, in Europe. And frankly, it's almost as though, you know, Ben Shapiro talked about this a little bit. He talked about the media is the fifth column for the terrorists, the for Qabas. they just blindly talk about what's happened based upon the propaganda that Hamas puts out.

You probably remember that right as Israel started bombing terrorist targets, that the media put out that there was a hospital that was blown up. And 530 Palestinians were killed in cold blood. And then both the Israeli Secret Service, And then the American intelligence community as well as the European intelligence communities, Great Britain, all verified that a missile that was fired by a different terrorist group, Islamic jihad, had misfired. The missile landed in a parking lot next to the hospital, didn't even hit the hospital. And sadly, there were people that were killed, 20 or 30. Palestinians, but not 500 in the news, and pretty large, large, reputable,

or least formerly reputable news organizations, just spewed that out without any verification, without any idea what they were talking about, blindly following the lead of the health ministry in Gaza, which is run by Hamas, which is just a political propaganda arm, of this terrorist organization. And so you hear all these figures, the last I heard was 9,000 dead in Gaza, but they don't tell you that out of those 9,000, how many were killed by their own rockets,

how many were killed because they were combatants, they were fighting, actively shooting at Israelis, or were, lawful targets. I mean, this is a war. And, you know, no one wants to have innocent people die. But it just kind of happens that way.

The sad part of attacking a sovereign nation and murdering its citizens is that there's going to be some kind of reaction to that. In this case, the reaction is to eliminate Hamas, a terrorist organization. And so unfortunately, there are collateral damages, which means innocent people are going to die.

But I'll guarantee you, it's not 9,000 civilians. Yeah. And those people that were killed, they weren't all killed by Israelis. So it's really, I mean, if you look at it, I just posted a new story from Israel Times. They showed video from the Nova Festival. That was the rave that was held on October 7th. down in the southern part of Israel. And the terrorists, when they invaded,

they grabbed a Palestinian from a bus. He was a bus driver. And they started questioning him. They were roughing him up. And he said, hey, I'm just a bus driver. I'm just waiting to drive these people back. I'm from East Jerusalem, from the West Bank. And they were speaking in Arabic.

And one guy said, leave him alone. And they kind of roughed them up. And then the video was dead. Well, 12 days later, they found his body. They don't care. It's not like they really care who they're killing. Right.

They don't care. They're terrorists. They kill. They've been killing Palestinians in Gaza since 2006. Yeah. This is nothing new. So if they kill their own people on a regular basis, it's nothing to go across the border and kill the people they hate and then come back and kill more of their own people. Yeah.

And to your point, Bob, and I want to bring this up. It's just a disaster. Yeah, I want to bring this up, too, because, you know, one thing you kind of mentioned, and I think our audience knows this all too very well, we've talked about us on the podcast many times about false flags, or we're not even false flags necessarily, but when there is an adversary country that may do things to make it look like the other country is doing this. Now, I'm not saying that Israel has not killed civilians in this process. I think if you look back at pretty much any war, you know, the United States. But they are trying to prevent to kill civilians.

Yes. But I guess my point to this is that we already know the Hamas does not care at all about their people, which is why they have some of their headquarters under hospitals, in hospitals. You know, they transport some of their soldiers in ambulance convoys, along with civilians, you name it. They do all of these very heinous things because they have to hide behind them. their civilians. They don't care anything at all about them. But also if you know this, right, you would also obviously know that they would potentially strike their own targets, their own cities. They will kill as many civilians potentially as they can to make the viewpoint switch from Israel as terrorist than Hamas, right? I mean, I mean, I think that's kind of what you're

saying, too. Well, and if you look at the people that are protesting today, there was an article in USA Today. It had about 40, I don't know, 47 photographs of the protests. And you can kind of look at all the groups that are there. Code Pink, Antifa, kind of the usual far left protesters that go to every leftist protest. And then some professional protesters that are constantly protesting in Israel, regardless of what's happening. This is a great opportunity for them.

For a long time, the Palestinian movement to free Palestine, I mean, everybody's calling it free Palestine, right? That started before 1967. You remember last time we spoke, and I told you, that the PLO was formed in 1964 when Israel didn't occupy the West Bank or Gaza. It was the Jordanians that occupied. occupied the West Bank, and it was the Egyptians that occupied Gaza, the occupation they're talking about was Israel. That's why they chant from the river to the sea. It's a

jetticidal movement to push, and they've said it, we'll push the Jews into the sea so Palestine can be free. They want to kill all the Jews. And really, it's not just in Israel. it's all over the world. So this movement has long been able to trick, if you will, kind of the left side of the American Jewish population, I think, who's always felt this, I don't know, sense of either guilt or this idea, they've held this idea that if we just leave the occupied territories, Jews being, or Israelis being in Judea and Samaria and Gaza, that suddenly won't have peace.

Everyone would be happy and we'll just get along. But if you look at the very premise, before those territories were reconquered, regained by Israel, because originally they were part of the mandate in most places, or were traditional Jewish villages in those areas, the claim of free Palestine was already being made. The first pogroms to try and kill the Jews. I mean, this is not the first time. Hamas, this was a disastrous attack for Israel. Don't get me wrong.

October 7th was horrific. But it's been going on since 1920. 1920, the Palestinians attacked the Jews and murdered 120 people then and killed men, women, and children. This is a standard kind of process that they've been going through. And they've hidden behind these arguments that the West is bad. And because the West has colonized the world, anybody that is a colonizer is immoral and racist. Right. And so if it's, go ahead.

And I'm sorry, that's what I can't understand about as far as when we talk about the West, America, America going out and chant. I get the media and all this stuff going on and they only see what the media portrays. But I also don't get what all these people in America are going to protest free Palestine because they've been, you know, slaves to Israel for years and years. This is what they're thinking. This is what they're claiming. But they're not even understanding the real truth behind it. That's not the truth because you just kind of laid out the history there. And another truth that they're not even associating themselves with is they are Americans.

And all those people over there hate Americans. It's not just Jews. They hate Americans. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's very similar to a lot of the weird movements that are going on now. I mean, there are groups in this country right now that are protesting for Hamas or Palestine that literally, if they were there, they would be executed. So that's why I don't get these protests going on all over the world because they really hate these people that are protesting in their benefit, I guess. Yeah.

Well, I mean, let's be clear. They're not protesting for freeing Palestine. they're protesting because they hate Jews and they want to kill Jews. And that's why they're protesting. It has nothing to do with Israel. It's about genocide. It's about racism. That's all this is.

Yeah, and they hate America too. Yeah, so why is Antifa not on the Jewish side? I mean, they're on Black Lives Matter side. I mean, they're all about racism and stopping racism. Great, great question, because if you also look, there's a, who's an Israeli singer that is part of the LGBTQT community who just posted a video from an imam preaching at the Al-Axa mosque, which is in Jerusalem, and services, calling for every Muslim to trample every homosexual, to kill every homosexual. Yep. And yet Antifa, who has in the past supported the LGBTQ community, probably in a little bit more of a more violent way than anybody would like.

And look, we've had this conversation offline. I support LGBTQT rights completely. I have no problem with people who love each other. because they love each other, right? I don't care if they're different genders or the same gender. It doesn't matter to me. But for a group to use violence in any type of protest, I think that's wrong.

Now, that being said, if Antifa and some of the Antifa members that I've seen recently that were protesting against Israel, which is the only place in the Middle East, where it's legal to be LGBTQT without fear of being killed. Of having your head chopped off, basically. Of your head chopped off, that's right. It's the only place in all of the Middle East

where you can really enjoy who you are and have the independence to do that. They're protesting against that. Why? Well, Antifa in Code Pink and some of these other very, very left-wing groups are Marxists. Yeah. And when you

get into Marxism, you share the same philosophy with other Marxists, which are the same groups in these terrorist organizations in the Middle East. So Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, they all use the same Marxist philosophy to maintain control over what part of the population they can to hoard as much of the wealth as they're able to.

It's not that they really care about their people. No. They care about the fight. Yeah. Their only desire is to kill Jews. It has nothing to do with framing Palestine, has nothing to do with bringing Palestine, has nothing to do with, with bringing their people or taking care of their people.

If it did, the billions and billions of dollars that they siphoned off from the UN and international aid to build these tunnels that could have been used to build housing for all these people would have changed everything in Gaza. and yet it all gets sent to this war machine. I heard a story that there's something like 260,000 gallons of fuel in these tunnels, and yet the hospitals are running out of fuel to run their generators. Yeah, and they were- But they're hoarding that for the war effort. Yeah, and that's what they were saying to the U.S., and that's, you know, obviously what also a lot of the media ran with is, you know,

hey, Israel is not supplying fuel to the citizens of Gaza and the Palestinians, and yet literally you're sitting on tons of fuel. I wanted to mention something, too. We recently interviewed Jonathan Cho, journalist. I don't know if, Bob, you heard that interview or not, but, you know, Jonathan Cho is on the streets in Seattle, Washington. He has been with pretty much every news agency in the country. He's been with mainstream.

He's been local markets, Chicago. you name it. He's been there. And then he went independent to cover the true story that is happening on the ground as we see it going on in this country today. He just so happens to be in Seattle now to where he is documenting the pro-Marxist movement. And as he eloquently pointed out in the interview where we had him and we were talking about, hey, where are these people coming from? Number one, he's going on the state of what is on the campus of Washington State or is it, is a Washington State, I believe.

Probably University of Washington. Yeah, yeah, maybe that's what it is. Yeah. So when he's going on these campuses, you know, most of these people that are out there in full Palestinian gear, pro-Hamas gear, whatever it is, so many of these people don't go to college there, number one. And then outside of the college campuses or even inside of the college campuses, you know, he shows videos of these socialist groups. I mean, and these are setting up actual booths. Yes, signing up people. college. And these are internationally funded groups. We're talking about, you know, if you think back on the Black Lives Matter organization, not the cause, but the organization to where you had this massive funding, which in turn really led to a lot of payouts for a lot of the leaders of the groups, but also really, if you looked at what it really caused and maybe a lot of the funding of how the riots happened and all this stuff, there's a lot to be said about that. But we're seeing the very same thing that has happened in our inner cities right now. We're seeing this in Seattle. We're seeing this in Seattle. We're seeing.

this across the country just yesterday. Washington, D.C., I think it was yesterday the day before, we had this pro-Palestinian movement, this massive movement. It took over Washington, D.C., and not only Washington, D.C., they were scaling the fences of the White House. There were protesters that were throwing things

at secret service members, FBI agents, CIA, whoever was there, any intelligence agency that was there. Is that insurrection, by the way? You would think so, especially when it's over the White House fence, right? And not only that, it's not just that, right? And we're going to get in this pro-Marxist movement. But, and obviously guys and girls that are listening, we're talking about World War III, and we're going to get deeper into this as we go.

But I think when we talked about the Israel and the Middle Eastern conflict, and now we're seeing this massive uprising of these pro-Marxists, I think Bob called it out very well because that's what they are. The same thing, Jonathan Cho said. This is not a movement. A lot of these same people you'll see in the Black Lives Matter movements, you'll see in the Antifa movements. They're the same people you're going to see in this pro-Palestinian movement.

They don't really care about any of the actual causes they are out there supporting. They're in, you know, they want socialism or communism. They want anti-government, anti-everything. I mean, Marxist, right? Not anti-government. They want pro-government. Well, no, a lot of these people don't. They want to rule.

They don't believe in it. It's weird because they're so confused. They don't want our government. Yeah. But let's be honest, they want Marxist socialism. That's a whole different ballgame. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's not democracy they want because that's pretty obvious.

They hate that. They hate capitalism, too. Well, what would you compare Marxism? I'm just asking both of you to what countries actually, like, have that now? Well, if you want communism and you go China, North Korea. Russia. That's dictatorship, North Korea, I guess. What would be equivalent to what these people want is what I'm asking.

But to what Bob's saying, none of these people would want to live in North Korea. Like, that would never happen because they would probably all be executed within a week. Right. Right. But even though that's kind of what they're – I mean, Bob, you can correct me if I'm wrong. And I'm going to play a video here. Let me actually play this video and we'll get Bob's answer on that. Bob, listen to this is what happened in Washington, D.C. last night.

This was at the fence. We're going to play this clip of what they were chanting and all that stuff. And then we're going to get to this independent job. journalist. He happens to be a black man that was, you know, in front of Washington, D.C. today, I believe, talking about his, I guess, standpoint, his viewpoint on what was happening in Washington, in Washington, D.C. is about a couple of minutes. But here is some of the sounds from Washington, D.C. last night and the night before. Here you go. Check this out. Okay, enough of that. There are literally thousands and thousands and thousands of these people that. that are up against the White House fences. Saying it's genocide. And they're scaling the fences. There are other videos saying, you know, pro-Palestine, you know, Biden is a, is a

genocidal president, whatever the case. There's a lot of things to say about Biden. I don't necessarily know that he has any clue what actually is going on. I want to play this clip very fast about this large Palestinian flag is being flown on the historic statue of General Lafayette across from the White House. And this is what this independent journalist has a say about this. Check this out. Gates have been vandalized. The streets are shrewing with trash. But the biggest insult is here in Lafayette Park with General Lafayette. The Palestinian flag was raised and it still remains. And they have this free Palestinian steaming in Gherfitting. They have it here. The General Lafayette and his compatrious, free Palestine.

They have raised the Palestinian flag. grounds of the White House at Lafayette Park and walk around with me. Look at this. I've never been so outraged. They've raised a Palestinian flag and more graffiti. More graffiti. More graffiti. Look at this. Free Palestine. You see this? Free Palestine. And look at this sun. Look at this sun. Decolonized Palestine. Decolonize the United States. Workers World Party. It is unreal. It is unreal. I hate to even touch it. This is what we've become. How can we allow this? The law enforcement watch for somebody to raise the Palestinian flag on the ground of the people's house, and we got to pay for this cleanup. Bob, what is your thoughts on that?

I mean, we've literally raised Palestinian flags on the grounds of the White House. And it's still there, by the way. If you accept my premise that when I said that from the river to the sea means they want to kill everyone between the river in the sea. and all across the earth that this is a genocidal racist movement and that the term or the phrase free Palestine really means

kill Jews and we're supporting that by allowing them to put up signs that say kill Jews free Palestine in the nation's capital now look I'm a lawyer

I believe in the First Amendment And the beauty of the First Amendment is it is resilient to even the worst of the worst of our society. So everyone has a right to say what they think. Amen. You don't have a right. You don't have a right to commit insurrection. You don't have a right to start a riot. We don't have a right to hurt people by your words.

Outside of that, I support your rights. You want to be a Nazi? Great. Be a Nazi. You want to be a terrorist? Great. Be a terrorist. In your words, as soon as you change those words to action, then we have to take action back.

There has to be a law enforcement response when that happens. Raising the flag, look, do I like it? No. But is it the right of any citizen to write? raise any flag? Yes. Sorry. But listen, Bob, I don't want to... You as a Jew, I'm just asking this as curiosity envelops me.

As a Jew, right? And if you understand what these chants really mean, and we're getting into World War III thing, and I don't want to get too much in this Israel versus whatever. But, you know, imagine there were massive groups of people, whether it be Trump supporters,

because that's the first, you know, that's the first people we're going to go to. If they talk about Asians or blacks or Hispanics or anything else. But imagine, just imagine for a second that there were a bunch of Trump supporters in Washington, D.C., that were chanting things similarly to the basically ridding of a race or a people of, say, either blacks or Asians or Hispanics. How do you think the White House and this government would respond differently than they are today? because, you know, listen, this obviously is a very concerning thing for Jews in America and Jews around the world. And yet at the same time, Vice President Kamala Harris comes out and says, we are going to ramp up our, I guess, response and our execution to how we deal with Islamophobia. And they basically said, we have the whole anti-Semitic, anti-Jew thing under control.

but can you imagine, though, just for a second, if there was any other race, any other anything, how they would react, unless it's white. If it's white people, and I'm just going to say it, if it's white people, you could do anything. You could do anything and get away with it. You could literally, you know, send 20 people up there to be executed, and you would probably get away with it. But it's starting to kind of get like that. It sounds like with Jews, that's okay, but if it's anything that is, you know, I don't know, political movement, whatever. But how do you think their government would respond differently? because I think that, you know, as, and I'm not Jew, right?

And, you know, I think we've talked about this before. Or Jewish. Or Jewish, yeah. That's like, well, Christ or Christian. Yeah. But, and I'm not trying to ask you how they respond, but I guess you would assume that you know that they're going to respond to that completely differently, right? All right. Sorry, I lost you there.

Go ahead, Bob. Okay. So, look, I'm going to take you back a little ways. If you remember, oh, geez, several years ago, maybe 20, 30 years ago, in a small community north of Chicago, town called Skokie, Illinois, which is mostly a predominantly Jewish area of the northern Chicago suburbs, a group of neo-Nazis had filed a permit to march through the streets of Skokie. and they were marching in front of Holocaust survivors. So you could imagine the pain, the anguish that was caused by it. Yeah. Nonetheless, the courts listened to the petition of the neo-Nazis who won in a march,

who wanted to demonstrate and fly the swastika on their flag in this Jewish neighborhood. And the Supreme Court said that you can't stop somebody because of the basis of their message unless it's based upon a call for violence. And so once you start parsing out messages, once you start deciding who can protest, who can, whose flag they can wave, then you start limiting how the First Amendment works. And as soon as that happens, then we lose all our rights, all of us. But I'm going to have to stop you right here and say that they do limit our First Amendment, right, by saying it's misinformation or disinformation. And if it's not something that they want people to say, that's what they call it, so that it takes away your freedom of speech. And I think they've done it on a large group of people already. And it's like now, I think the Jewish community is starting to see the, I guess you can say,

almost, you know, be quiet because, you know what, we're trying to be on your side, even though we should be on your side, but, you know. But it's the fact that they're giving these people freedom of speech, but it's not equivalent. It's not balanced on all sides, is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. Well, and that's where shows like yours are so important because, look, we do not want a situation where people's rights are trampled regardless of what their message is.

I do not support this free Palestine movement. I don't support the idea that genocide and racism perpetrated against Jews, both in Israel and across the world, is the right thing to do. And I don't support, on the other hand, any attacks against anybody who is an Arab or is Muslim, either in the United States or in the world if they're protesting. and I've heard stories of that happening. And that's wrong. And that shouldn't happen.

And we have to stop that. But what we can do and what your show and what you guys can do with your audience is help educate people to look at what's fact and what's propaganda. And as soon as Americans and Europeans and the British can start remembering how to use their brains and look at facts and logic versus propaganda and easy phrases that sound good, then we'll start to be able to make decisions that are based on those facts and logic and not based upon passion and articulated phrases that are made to demonize groups of people. So that's the answer to it.

Yeah, I agree. It's not who can waive the flag across the street from the White House. Anybody can. And it can be any flag. Whether it's a Nazi flag, a Hamas flag, a Palestinian flag, it's your right. Wave. Yeah. It's the part of the media that has failed to do the education part.

They have sucked in to this argument that the West is bad and because the West participated in colonization that anybody that colonated is a racist. And I'm sorry, but Israel was not colonized by Jews. Israel was founded by Jews. That's why it was called Israel 3,000 years ago. Right. And that's a big difference founded by colonized. Now, I mean, we're going to continue to see this kind of protest because they're trying to sway the opinion of the people that have the power of the purse. They're trying to persuade Joe Biden and Congress so that they don't help Israel so that they can't stop terrorism.

and, you know, God willing, that doesn't happen. But if you look at the pictures in USA Today, if that protest from yesterday, you'll see that from a wide angle, they took all the people and they stacked them up so that they're in, like, groups of, you know, 100, but they're all packed in. And then the area around them is wide open. So they try to make it look a lot bigger than it. really was. So you look at it and you're saying, you can, you guys

said, oh, thousands and thousands. It wasn't thousands and thousands. It just looked like it. Now, marching through the streets in London, there were thousands and thousands. Oh yeah. Over that bridge, that was a bunch of people. Right, a bunch of people. And who are they? Same

people. People who believe that this trope, that the Jews have colonized, Palestine and should be killed because of it. And it's not just British of Arabic descent. It's British students. It's British young people who don't have the logic and the understanding of history to figure out on their own.

Now, you know, Ben Shapiro went to Oxford. I don't know if you guys saw this. He was Oxford and Cambridge, I think it was this week. And he was very genuine and unassuming in discussing these things with students from Oxford and Cambridge. And one student from Oxford or a guest, or she was a student. But certainly someone who appeared to be Muslim, she's wearing a hijab or scarf. She claimed that the war against Hamas was not a just war because the Israelis had killed more Palestinians than Hamas killed Jews. And Shapiro mentioned this.

He said, you know, is it just that the Brits? British only lost 70,000 people, yet killed two million civilians in Germany when they bombed Dresden and other places. Yeah. And this girl said that didn't happen, that the British didn't bomb Dresden or Germany. Yeah, and they're all saying that, yeah. I encourage you to go look at the clip. It's just phenomenal that at one of the most prestigious universities in Great Britain, and perhaps in the world, it turns out people that can't understand basic facts from history that's less than 80 years old. And here we are debating who is indigenous.

And that argument goes back 3,000 years. Yeah. No, you're right. And so it's, it's, it's, and frankly, I blame our society because we're, our students are not getting smarter because they're not told how to learn about history. They're just fed a version of history. Yeah. And I think that's everything.

How to research. Right. They just, they just buy in. Right. And so you can't, you can't be critical. You can't think critically if you only accept one side of the. the story without looking at all the facts. And most people can't do that.

You guys said it when I was on your show last time. Look at what I said. If I'm wrong, challenge it. Bring up the facts. Tell me I'm wrong. And let's talk about it. Let's talk about facts. But when you just say, oh, Jews are colonizers.

And so let's pick them into the sea. Yeah. You're just being a racist. Yeah. And I think that's the thing with today is like everyone. is desperately trying to find information because it is really hard to find the truth anymore. I mean, period. It's incredibly hard.

It is. That's why. If you look at, I'm sorry. You look at some of this, I was just going to say, Chad, if you look at some of the videos that people are saying, oh, that didn't happen. You know, some of the videos that Hamas shared on October 7th that were live streamed are now being told, we're now being told by Hamas, all these are made. made up their AI. Yet they were live streamed when it was happening. Live come by.

Yeah, but look, you know, the same thing to what you're saying, though, too, is like we have evidence on a lot of things that were on video that no one cares about because as long as the media doesn't push it, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's not real. It's not real. It's made up. And that's why a lot of these people, sorry, Chad, are protesting. They're like, oh, that's fake.

We're going to continue to protest because it's fake. It didn't really happen. Right. But it did. And listen, if you, and I don't want to talk about my mom or you guys' mom, but what I will say is that if you talk to the older generation, right, they are clueless. They're only going to know exactly what the 6 o'clock news says or the 630. And I think that is one of the most dangerous things. Now, we are getting into an information age to where more people are starting to have, you know, for example, X, even though I don't 100% fully agree that X is censorship free.

or completely freedom of speech. But what I will say, at the very least, is it is a place of open discourse where people can actually go and look and find and look at videos. Like, go look at a video on X. Go look at a video on X slash Twitter. Go see what actually is happening. And that goes both ways, by the way. You can do both things on both sides.

But, you know, Google, it curates whatever they want you to see based on the narrative they are trying to make sure that you believe. Right. And that's always, but not always. but especially the past five to ten years. That's what mainstream media has been doing for a very long time. And it's sad. And to Bob,

I guess kind of to your point a little bit. Yeah, it's a tough thing to find the true news. Now, Bob want to ask you, there was a report recently that the new U.S. bomb could kill 300,000 in Moscow. Now,

I find it kind of funny because, you know, obviously we're talking about World War III. And the reason why we wanted to discuss the Israel-Humaz situation, is because, you know, we've talked on this podcast before about Russia, Ukraine, and the potential of how that would cause a world conflict. And it still could, by the way, although we're going to get into that in a minute. And everyone out there, for those that remember our episodes with JD, he used to, or, well, I guess he used to be with Dark Horse. Well, he used to be with Dark Horse Allies. Dark Horse Allies

was a group of vets from the United States, from Britain, from wherever, and they went over to the Ukraine to help train citizens was their main goal because, you know,

in the beginning of war, they were like, hey, we got to train our citizens up to fight in this war, whatever. And so his group went over to go do this. Because they didn't want it

to be a proxy war. Yeah. Now JD is fighting on the front lines. And so the reason I'm mentioning this is because Tuesday we are interviewing JD. He is on the front lines in Ukraine and Russia war.

They are, I mean, you know, I'm worried about him, actually. I mean, he's been a friend of the show. And, you know, looking through his timeline and just seeing what he posts and what he's in and all this stuff right now, I'm worried. So I told JD, we're going to have him on Tuesday. And we're going to talk a little bit more about the Ukraine-Russia situation in particular. But the fact that the U.S. came out and basically said, hey, we have a new bomb that is going to, you know, could kill 300,000 people in Moscow.

So this article says a U.S. nuclear bomb planned for development and has the potential to level central Moscow and kill more than 300,000 of his 13 million inhabitants. Newsweek magazine reported on Friday citing a simulation created through the online tool nuke map. The Pentagon announced late last month that it would seek to make a new variant of the B-61 nuclear gravity bomb. Now the B-61-13 pending authorization by Congress, the weapon would have an estimated 360 kiloton yield, which is 24 times more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima during World War II. Now, if detonated over Moscow, the bomb would kill an estimated 311,000 people and injure up to 868,000 people, Newsweek said.

If dropped on St. Petersburg, Russia, second largest city, the estimated number of fatalities from the explosion were reached three. 360,000. Now, according to Newsweek, anything within a half-mile radius from the bomb's detonation site would be vaporized by a massive fireball. The blast would demolish buildings and likely kill everyone within a mile. While those within the two miles of the detonation site would be dead within a month due to the high-level radiation exposure, the magazine wrote, a further 15% of survivors would later die of cancer and many would suffer life-altering burns. Now, the plan to design a new bomb was unveiled amid the standoff between Russia and NATO over Ukraine, as experts, politicians, and the media have discussed the risk of the conflict escalating into a nuclear war.

Russia has accused the United States of nuclear brinkmanship and claimed it was secretly violating arms control agreements. And earlier this week, Russia formally revoked this ratification of 1996 comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty. and this is President Vladimir Putin said that the non-proliferation treaty has become useless because it was never ratified by the United States. And it quotes, among the states that have not ratified this treaty, the most destructive position is that of the U.S.,

which has many years declared that there would be no support for ratifying the treaty in Congress, their Kremlin said, in a statement. So you have, and also keeping this in mind, I believe Russia just, executed a nuclear test or if I'm not a second. I know the United States did, and this was two weeks ago. We did just do a nuclear test for the first time in a while.

Either Russia just did a test or I think they're about to do a test, but I'm pretty sure that they're right there alongside. Now we have Hasbala, which is, Hasbala made a big speech two days ago about this situation in Israel and Gaza. And they basically were saying, hey, obviously we're in support of pretty much anyone against Israel. And then today they came out and said that they have lost 68 fighters in Gaza or, or, you know. And so we didn't know whether Hezbollah was involved in this war or not, but obviously they are, considering they actually came out and said they've lost 68 fighters in this war in Gaza. Bob, how dangerous is this situation?

I mean, I know we talk about the Israel and Hamas conflict. and then obviously you got Ukraine and Russia. And before you answer that, I have one more thing. Joe Rogan recently had said on his podcast, and this is true. I agree with this 100%. But Joe Rogan said, all it takes is one person to effing launch a nuke, and the world changes forever. And I've never felt like that was a possibility in my lifetime until now.

And I know that, you know, you guys are a little older than me. I know that, you know, back in the day, I don't even know that you guys were part of the kind of Cold War scenario. But, you know, you had situations where people were kind of a little bit concerned about a nuclear attack and stuff like that. But I don't think we've ever been closer than we are now. What are your biggest concerns with this, Bob, like, how could, is it, is this thing, should we be more worried about Russia, Ukraine, or is it all the combined, the Israel, the Middle East, Russia, Ukraine, China. Yeah, and we've not even talked about all of it. But yeah, just what we've talked about. Yeah.

Yeah, everything that you've mentioned are realistic scenarios that could blow up literally at any moment. Hamas and their attack, in my opinion, was greenlit by Iran. Iran funnels money to both Khamas and Hezbollah, as well as to the Houthis in Yemen, who's also sent muscles not only against Israel, but against our fleet, our navy in the Red Sea. Those missiles were created, were built in Iran, funded by Iran, shipped by Iran. And you ask whether or not there's going to be a World War III and who's going to be involved. Guys, I'm here to tell you, I think we've already had World War III start. And that these are just these are just the baby steps before everything falls into it. Now, what the trigger is, what the final trigger is, I don't know.

If that trigger is Khamas's attack at the behest of Iran, You know, it'll be interesting to see what the United States does in the region if Hezbollah or the Iranians or the Qutis also attack Israel whether or not they respond. There was a statement that that could be a possibility. And now we're in a hot war with Iran. You have to look at who the allies are with Iran. that's North Korea, China, and Russia. Right. And now why is Russia an ally with Iran?

Well, Iran has oil. Russia needs oil. And Iran has some technology, believe it or not, that Russia doesn't have in the form of drones and missiles. I mean, look, Iran is the – I mean, I have no problem with the Iranian people. I think they want to be free. I think they want to be free of the madmen that are in control of the Islamic Republic of Iran. But the Islamic Republic of Iran is run by a bunch of people that I think are crazy and are willing to go at any length to destroy not only the United States and Israel. And if that means going into an alliance with the Russians and the Chinese, they'll do it.

And so now it really boils down to how much control the Chinese and the Russians have over Iran. How much are they able to rein them in? and if they can't, are they going to follow in the footsteps of Iran if Iran becomes involved in this war, Israel and the United States? But Iran is kind of already involved themselves by bombing military positions that America is in right now. and us as Americans are sitting on our little butt saying, okay, keep bombing us. We're not going to show you we're a threat because we're weak. To me, that's the problem.

Yeah, I don't know strategically how far you can go into it. Now, I understand this. Some of the things that you read in the media probably are just threats, if you will, I don't work for the United States federal government. I've never been in the military. I'm not privy to classified information. Everything I'm talking about is open source, right? So anybody can get this information.

I'm not giving way information that's classified. But it seems to me that if we're about to develop a new nuclear program, the last thing we would do is announce it and explain how it's going to work. That doesn't make sense to me. And so I don't know if that's real. Maybe it is. And we're just not as smart as I thought. We were trying to fear.

But I know a lot of people in the federal government, and they're really smart. Yeah. So I don't think that's the case. And Bob, I do think. Oh, sorry. Yeah. No, I was just going to say one of the things Rashid says, and he is a part of the federal government, he had said, essentially, that China is behind.

almost everything that is going to unravel against the U.S. I mean, do you kind of see that just from your historical standpoint? I mean, I don't know how much you, history and China lines and, you know, how much China, is China the actual big player? Like if you're a low-level drug dealer and somehow you get to one day meet like the kingpin drug lord of Los Angeles, is the kingpin drug lord of the, the other half of the world, China. China.

Yeah. Yeah. Clearly. It's the PRC. Look, if you've got how many people are in China, $1.2 billion, a little less in India, the number, roughly, the number two economy in the world behind the United States. And strategically, we're in a world of a herd.

if we get into accomplice of China, because everything that we rely on for the military, for our health, for our safety is manufactured in China. Most of our, most of the, most of the... Our goods and services come from them. Well, well, beyond that.

So if you look at, and this is one of the arguments against the green movement, right, is that in order to make solar panels, in batteries, you have to have lithium. And a majority of the lithium in the world is found in China. And now if the Chinese say, well, we're going to boost up the price of lithium so that we can have a monopoly and control energy sources throughout the world, we could have a lot more power. That would be strategically a really smart thing for the Chinese to do if they wanted to take over

I mean, look, they have the People's Republic of China is run by a dictator by the name of Xi, who has garnered all the power of the political bureau in China. He's eliminated several of his opposition so that he can maintain power. He was elected for two terms, and he was term limited, and then he was able to change the moments. So now he's an authoritarian. Indefinitely. Indefinitely. There is no more elections of him getting in and out. Well, there are elections, but you can only vote for him. So everybody's required to vote. So he'll be, he'll be unanimously elected by everybody. But in the meantime, he's completely dismantled all the reforms that happens after a team in Square in 1993.

So as China to wade from pure communism to a pro-capital version of itself in the early 2000s all the way up to right before she was elected, there was hope that China would become a partner in the world just like the other four. seats in the United Nations Security Council, permanent seats. So, Great Britain, France, the United States, Russia, arguably, that isn't a great seat.

Yeah, Russia is not in the United Nations. Well, they have a permanent, they're a permanent member of the Security Council. And those five countries, China, Russia, Great Britain, France, and the United States, have the ability to veto anything that comes to the UN.

And they exercise that veto a lot, including the United States. So that's neither here or there. But what is important to understand is that all the raw material that we use for manufacturing for high-pack gadgetry, if you will, that's used by the military, kind of comes from China. So that's the first problem. The second problem is that we had a shift starting in the 1980s that has continued for the last 40 years to move manufacturing from the United States to overseas. That started in this movement to the Four Little Dragons, Vietnam and in Taiwan and Korea and all these other. small Asian countries where we started moving manufacturing.

Yeah, because you see a lot of your clothing is Taiwan now. It's not only China is Taiwan. And China hates Taiwan for some reason because we love Taiwan. And by the way, I want to point out something. Yesterday, I bought a new scope for the AR. And it is literally a sticker. It says made in China. And I was like, I bet you they're going to intentionally make this damn thing like,

four feet off. Well, and here's the thing, guys, that the American economy didn't really shift more jobs overseas to China. What happened is China took those jobs from the other Asian countries around them and gained a lot of economic power. And they used that power very smartly. I went to China for business and was flabbergasted at how much money they invested just in infrastructure.

Every intersection that I went through in Guantio, which used to be called Canton, every intersection was an eight-lane highway. I mean, in all new asphalt, or didn't any potholes. And on the main street, everybody's driving brand-new cars. But if you go to the back streets, all the people are riding bicycles. Really interesting. Yeah, it is. It is very interesting.

But here's the thing. Let me just get to this point. So the Chinese government have been able to gain all this economic power, and they've invested in three things. Infrastructure in their country, building their military, and exercising influence throughout the world. if you go to ports throughout Latin America, the port where good come in and get offloaded from ships, the ports were built and are operated by the Chinese, by the Chinese government. And I have to add something. And I got to add there.

Yeah, I got to add something there because even where we live, Bob, it was all like woods, whatever. It's now like all manufacturing. But guess what? I cannot read any of the science. because they're all Chinese factories. And here in America, where we live. Where we also live in, well, near, well, we don't live like that close.

But Greer, South Carolina has an inland port. It is, I think, I believe, maybe the biggest inland port in the United States. So it comes from Charleston to Greer, South Carolina. If you go by this port, it is massive, right? So, you know, basically you see what you would see at a shipping port. somewhere near the ocean. And you see these massive container ships or containers from the ships. Right.

And they are, I mean, two, three miles long. They are probably, I don't know, 20 stories high. And then, like, all these new buildings that are popping up all over our area, if you go to some, like, some of these buildings, and this has been always very strange to Sherry and I, we've talked about us for three years now. There are a lot of these buildings around our area that are, massive buildings. And they're still vacant.

If you look in the back of these buildings, they have shipping containers that, I mean, are five stories high. They are completely gated, barbed-wired fence, high security, and no one's ever there. It's strange. I mean, I don't know what it is, but also on the signs, it'll have

Chinese writing. And that's very concerning. The same reason that so many people were concerned, the fact that China is buying up so much of our farmland, yeah. Or land near our military bases. This is happening. I mean, it's not a conspiracy theory. This is actually happening. Would China

ever allow the United States to buy up farmland or places near their military base? Absolutely not. But we are. In fact, there's two forms of currency in China. There's the currency for the Chinese, and then there is a currency for the foreigners.

So you can't even buy their own currency. Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, that's why they're the... So who's outsmarting who? right now is what my question is. Well, it's China. Because obviously... It's a huge concern. And Bob, by the way, you had

said earlier, you said that America was the number one economy. I don't know, man. We got Bidonomics at work right now, so... Sorry, I didn't mean to start. Bob, I know you're not in particular, I guess, like very boisterous with your opinion on politics

necessarily in public, but and I want to make sure you can hear this video. Just tell me if you can hear this, Bob, real quick. And Obama has plenty to do with it. Can you hear that? Yeah. Okay, cool. I'm going to play this clip from Trump.

Now, look, you love or hate him. I just want to play what he has to say here. And he talks about China here. And he talks about our administration and Biden. He does say some funny stuff because that's what he does. He could be a comedian. But I want to play this clip and I want to get your reaction to it. Here you go.

And Obama has plenty to do with it. Obama has plenty to do with it. I call him Biden's boss, but he's plenty to do with it. Very, very, very serious. We are in very, very grave danger of having a World War III, and this will be a war, this will be a war of obliteration.

This will not be a war with, I say, army tanks going back and forth, shooting at each other. This is the real deal. And we have a man that, he can't even walk off a stage. He walks off a step. He finishes his speech. He looks, well, he can't find. He has no idea.

You know, there's always a stare there, a stair here. You could even walk off the front jump or something. He usually walks to the back into a wall. Yeah, there's a wall there. He walks right into a wall. Can't walk off the stage. Can't put two sentences together. And yet he's negotiating with President Xi of China,

who when I say he's very smart. The press, look at, that's a lot of press back there. That's a lot. So for him to negotiate with President Xi of China is like my high school football team playing the, let's see, what's a good team nowadays? Philadelphia's good. You know, they change a little bit. I used to say New England. I used to say the Patriots.

I'd love to be able to say the. All right, there you go. So I wanted to just play that because what Trump is basically saying is. is that you have a president. This is not politics, by the way. This is a fact. You have a president that obviously has some issues. He does.

I mean, he cannot put two sentences together. He has issues getting off stages. And yet he is supposedly in position of power to negotiate anything with what Trump calls Xi or Z, whatever you want to call him, of China, a smart leader. Because this guy is, regardless of whether you. agree with his politics or whether you agree with the way China does their country, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter about, you know, democracy versus authoritarianism, any of this stuff. The reality of this is we just talked about that China, you could argue, is in the control of this

world. They are probably the most powerful country in this world. And when we're talking about a World War III situation, which as Bob said, well, as Bob said, we're already probably in, because I think we are. I think World War III has already started. I think when a lot of people talk about World War III think about nuclear bombs. That's another, it's like Bob was saying. Yeah, it's like Bob was saying we're in the beginning stages or maybe even middle stages of this. But does it not concern you, I guess, of the state of our country right now, Bob, regardless of who's president. It doesn't matter if the guy in president in office right now was a Republican.

It doesn't matter, but is it not concerning? It feels like we're weak. It feels like we're one of the weakest we've ever been at the absolute worst times to be the weakest in world history. It's at the worst times because they're going to make things happen at the worst times because they knew they could. Yeah, it's like an injured dog. When you are weak, that's when we go after you. Yes. It's like Africa, you know, lion, like tribal stuff.

If you have an injured lion or injured hyena or whatever. That's when you go after them. Yeah, you got to beat them. And this is the best time to start wars is right now. Especially if that lion that is injured has always been the king and dominated. And now you see they're injured, you're going to attack. You're going to attack them from all sides. I think that is a human nature thing.

And I think that's what we're seeing right now. In lifetime. And although you may hate or love Trump, I think he's right as far as you're really going to send this guy to go negotiate with the world power right now, which is a very smart guy. He's got his wits about him. How bad or like how bad is this, Bob? I mean, are you, are you extremely concerned or, you know? I agree with your premise. I don't think it matters who the president is in the White House.

If it's President Trump or President Biden or, you know, whoever you want to pick, we've got a lot of work to do because the cards have already been dealt. And so now we've got to figure it out. Now, I'll say a couple things. First, on October 6th, going back to Israel for a second, there were Israelis in the media, they were talking about civil war in Israel because it was so decisive. Yeah, this is before all that stuff happened. Yeah, the day before.

October 7th, October 7th is when Hamas attacked. Yeah. Right. And before that, for a year, the Israelis were going through the same kind of political disturbances that we saw in the United States after the murder of George Floyd. Okay. So that really doesn't even spell out the tumultuousness of what Israel was going through. on October 7th, that all went away. And today, the feelings are about the country first, right?

And so I would pose to this via. I think our country is incredibly divisive, right? It always has been. That's kind of part of being in a two-party system. And I think our federal republic is set up to have that divisiveness, so that we can polish each other's ideas, right? You can't sharpen a knife without push them a little bit against the stuff. You've got to have a little coarseness to get a little bit better.

So I don't have that much concern about the division in the country, because if we are attacked, I think that would change dramatically. I've seen it before, and I think Americans would realize, hey, we're Americans and we're being attacked, right? Now, there are still elements that we have to be concerned about. You look at the military. Right now, there is a lull in recruitment for all breaches of the service except for the Marine Corps. That's concerned.

Because before the Iraq War, Americans were – As soon as 9-11 happened, how many people started? People like Pat Tillman, an NFL football player that was making millions of dollars enlisted to go in the army to fight these terrorists. It's a morale. And morale is through the roof. I think that would probably happen in if we were attacked. So there's that. If you think about it this way, though, let me just explain this.

Sorry. No, you're fighting. you're fine. And I want to let you ask questions to debate with me if you want to. But I had the opportunity in the 1990s to start studying Chinese philosophy and Chinese government. Right. So when I was a political science major, I sat through all these classes and read all these books. And the one thing that was consistent is this. The Chinese have a lot of ancient philosophy that they still use, that's still very effective. You've probably heard of Sun Tues the Art of War, right?

That's a phenomenal book that even professors in business school teach people how to be better businessmen, better salesmen, what have you. but it talks about strategy and the strategy that the Chinese incorporate. When we go in an American business to do anything, we look at a short-term prospect. Our long-term in business and in government is a three-to-five-year outlook, right? We're looking to see what's going to happen in the next three to five years. for the Chinese in business and in government and militarily, strategically, their outlook is over the next 100 years. Yeah. Over the next three generations, we can't get through 36 months without freaking out and saying, well, we got to change what we're doing because it's not going to work.

Absolutely. They're building strategy that's 100 years in the making. And it's successful because they're committed to it. And that probably is one of the issues that we have because we live in a democracy where our ideas conflict. Get conflict and get flip-flop, right? And so maybe this week, I'm Donald Trump. I think this is how we should do it.

And then Joe Biden gets elected and he has an alternate idea. and now that consistency is no longer there. That's part of the system. So either we have to have patience for those ideas to work. There's not really a response that we can fix that. And I'll be honest with you, Bob, like I listen to what you're saying. This is the only debate I would have with that is I think like the Democrat Party versus Republican Party 10 years ago with like you had one idea. based on like base, what is it called, like based ideas, right?

What, like, even if it was like you were pro-abortion, anti-abortion, or you were, you know, pro-weed or anti-weed, or, you know, these are like things that, like, okay, we get it, you don't agree with these things, I don't agree with these things, but it's not like crazy extremes. Like, we are in a time right now that it just feels like, God, what I wouldn't give for like a good old abortion debate or a good old weed debate or something, right? It's like this is craziness, though.

Like we're, it's literally like it almost seems like, you know, to your point with like China, right? They are doing a lot of things right as far as how they're advancing in the world. Now you can look at that situation with China and say, well, they're, they're communist China. or all these things. We used to talk about this on the podcast before. When we would talk about UFOs, and although this is theoretical, but just think about this for a second,

if you had a civilization of another planet, far, far away from here, to where these people were able to, or aliens, these aliens were able to agree enough or maybe not even agree, I don't know what the formula is here. But you have to understand, like imagine this world coming together because I think that the world and all the smartness

and all the intelligence of everyone in this world would have to come together to really be able to create platforms that could that could transverse us through the universe at light speed technology. If you look at another planet like what in the hell? Like if you can just say, hey, we have a spaceship here that came from another. planet 20 light years away and they can do this in 10 minutes of our time. Yeah, and they don't want to take us to the planet. What was their politics, dude? Yeah, of course they're not going to take us their planet because we would pollute it.

Because whatever their system is, like, I mean, we're just saying, you know, theoretically, right? Their system of getting along enough to where they used all of their powers, this is one of the things with science that many scientists have always argued about is like, Everything is so compartmentalized, top secret, especially with government stuff and all this stuff, if you allowed all these scientists and all these things to come together to unify on a consensus or at least offer your own opinions in it to where other people respected opinions, we're not there, dude. We are at a stalemate in every single faction of everything we do and think and believe. we are going backwards in history. We're going backwards in time. And it's very concerning, by the way,

because, you know, I guess at some point in time, we got comfortable enough to believe that, hey, you know what, it's 2023. And there's never going to be another World War II. There's never going to be another World War II. We're never going to have another Hiroshima. No one's ever going to attack America. Like, we're invincible.

And you know what happened to the last teenager I thought they were invincible that got drunk and high and after prom and decided to go 140 miles an hour down the interstate? Well, they got killed in a car accident. And then all their friends realized they're not invincible. And like, what is America's time to realize that you're not invincible? Because I think we're about to find out that when you go 140 miles an hour down the interstate, especially with a drunk person at the will, I mean, like, you can get my consensus on this. We're going to crash into something and it's going to be

the demise of America. I think we're already there. We're already there from within. I think we're already at the demise of America from within. So that, you know, that's what they want. I know, but that's like, like I said, that's like the the king lion on the

Sahara having the disease that he is weak and wounded. You're dying from within already. How easy it is, how easy it is for these other lions, these strong lions to come and just, demolish you. I know.

And there's two analogies there, but yeah. I'm a little bit more optimistic. I don't look at the American people. I don't look at the American people as a bunch of truck drivers, although there are a lot. But I think, I think for the both parts, at least where I live, you can't go past 50 because there's too many cars. But if you get past that, right, I think what you're saying,

saying I do agree with, but I'm going to rephrase it for you. I don't think we're going backwards in history. I think we're repeating history. I had a teacher in high school. Sure he might have had them. I can't remember. But the first thing he did when he taught American history, when he walked in the classroom, a bunch of juniors sitting in the classroom, proud Americans, every one of us. The first thing he said was Americans are stupid. and I'm going to prove it by the end of the year. And you couldn't imagine more upset juniors in high school when he said that. Because you're calling us out.

Americans are stupid, including you, you're all stupid. I've never had a high school teacher to say that to me. But you know what? He was right. And this is why. Americans are stupid as well as the rest of the world because they don't learn from history. and when you don't learn from history, history repeats itself. So we're not going backwards in history.

I think we're repeating history. I think you're right. I think every generation has similar challenges to the last generation. It might take a different flavor. It might have more of a catastrophic nature to it. But every generation has to overcome these challenges and the people, the societies, the countries, the countries that are successful have those lessons from history that guide us through those challenges successfully.

I think there are Americans both in office and that work for the government that can manage those problems and these obstacles. And I know that they are on top of that game. I don't have the same that's a mystic viewpoint that we're going to fail. I do think we have a lot of work to do. I think we have to come together as a people. We have to, again, I mean, I said this last time I was on your show. We have to learn how to talk to each other without completely vilifying the other side because they don't think the way we do.

We've got to come to a point. where we can communicate our thoughts civilly without ad hominem attacks, without personally attacking someone else, but debating ideas. And then from there, we can work together based upon those debates. The thing that's kind of cool about being Jewish is we have this long history, this long tradition of debate. The entire Talmud, which is a collection of debates between different schools of thought, between rabbis about what things in the Bible mean kind of teach us that that's really valuable.

That's really important to be able to put our ideas up against your ideas. And let's see which ideas hold water and which ideas maybe are a little bit porous. Yeah. We've kind of stopped doing that. And that's the way we should do it. We've only, that's the way we should do it. And we've kind of gotten to the point that we've said, look, if you're a Democrat, I'm not going to listen to you because I'm a Republican.

Or if you're a Republican, I'm not going to listen to you because I think you're crazy. That's not how this system is supposed to work. And Bob, by the way, when you say when you say when you debate with the other people that, you know, let's find out what holds water, right? Or just in general. I think that with the conspiracy theory, for example, let's take the word conspiracy theory for a second. You know, there are conspiracy theories that a lot of people label conspiracy theories

because it is the truth and the best way to discard anything that is true sometimes is a conspiracy. Now, there are obviously crazy conspiracy theories. We know that. We've called those out in many occasions. But what I can say is that when you get, there's something I've learned. When you get a mass formation of people that are, it has been an open discourse. There have been people that have

debated this. There have been people that have refuted claims on either side and then whatever the outcome of those debates are, which is essentially what a court trial is to where a jury decides what they believe the most.

That is what the consensus of the people is. So whereas it might start as a conspiracy or as a claim or as a thing to where It is a conspiracy then. But those conspiracy that prevail over years and years and the mass amount of people that eventually... And I say conspiracy because what you're talking about is open-dor discourse is key.

And it is key to everyone. If you look at the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States was not necessarily created to protect the people from foreign adversaries. It was created to protect the people from the people in power in the government... In their own. in their own power, whatever. And so without getting kind of too deep in that, yes, open discourse is the future of humanity. It depends on it. That's why Elon Musk spent $40-something billion on X because he believed open discourse, open speech, debating, and come into a consensus.

What holds water or what doesn't? At least, you know, I think that speech is the future of humanity. There are so many people that still have their head up their butts. Oh, there's tons, yeah. You know, and how can you have decourse or open decourse with people that don't even understand what the truth is? Yeah. That's what's so hard to me. You know, and it's even like when Chad was talking about our parents, for example, they watch the six o'clock news.

They have no idea what's really going on in the world. All they know is what they listen to. And it's hard to have open decorts with people that are making their decisions based on what other people tell them to make their decisions on. Yeah. And Bob, you can respond that to you if you want. I want to ask you a question real quick because we'll wrap this up soon. But at night, because I think that you're very concise, I guess, with a lot of things you say as far as your thoughts and your history and all that stuff. But at night, as an American citizen in the United States of America.

let's just take away the fact that you are Jewish or, you know. But are you not concerned at all? And the reason I want to say this, because when I grew up, you know, I had like a weird phobia about things. I used to have anxiety when I was a kid. I had it in certain parts of my life. I think part of that was because my mom, because the mom had anxiety and she kind of made, I feel like somewhat influenced that on me. But, you know, looking back, I was like, I was worried about a lot of weird stuff when I was a kid.

I think a lot of people are, right? I mean, especially as you're growing up. And then I got old enough and I was like, I'm not worried about anything anymore, like ever. Like I'm just going through life. I ain't worried about nothing. There were times like, yeah, I'm broke. Like, I'm worried about money.

Like, I'm not worried about the stuff we're worried about now. But Ger Rogan had a comment the other day, not just Joe Rogan, but you have many, many people that are coming out and saying, at night, I lay awake and think, how close are we to an actual nuclear annihilation? We're talking about to where one decision, one wrong moment in time and in history, creates the absolute collapse of society.

And I'm not trying to be a doomsday person, but you as a person, do you not, and look, I don't know what you do when you lay down. I don't know if you watch TV, watch your phone, do you think, but is, is any of the, of those moments that you think like how close that you're like are you more worried about nuclear war maybe than you die of a heart attack? I mean because there are people in this world right now they're more worried about that the fact that the way this world is is more

dangerous than their cholesterol. And do you ever do you ever think about that? I'll tell you right after that. I have more blood pressure medication than I do iodine in my medicine cabinet. So I get that. I kind of answer to the question. That's a minute. Let me put it to you this way. I had a really good friend, one of my mentors, who made, he dedicated his wife to training law enforcement, police officers and deputies throughout California and most of the west side of the country. And part of that trading, he said there are three types of police officers. There's a police officer that says, you know what, it's never going to happen.

so I'm not going to have to worry about preparing for it. It's not going to happen to me. So I can just go on and I don't have to train or do anything to be ready. So if someone fights by getting a gunfight, it's not going to happen. Then there's the other police officer that says, well, it's going to happen to me. It's going to happen quick. And I better get everything I can to prevent it. So I better get as many guns as I can, go to training, keep my head on a swivel all the time.

I'll be ready. Then he said, there's the reasonably prepared officer. The police officer that spends his time training, preparing, making sure that officer's equipment works and functions, so that if it happens, he's prepared for it. And so I would encourage you that if you suffer from that deep-seated concern, that you do what you need to do to be prepared for anything that could happen. I used to teach classes about how the emergency management system works, something that President Bush created along with members of the administration after 9-11

to help firefighters and police officers and, government agencies and the public work together in emergencies. And part of that, you have to be prepared to be self-sufficient for at least a couple days if something happens. You guys are on the East Coast. Occasionally you get hurricanes that come close to your house. You've got to have some kind of a kit in case you lose power. Lots of guns. listeners, but I'm just kidding.

Of course, you've got, you've got listeners. What are you going to shoot the hurricane down, Chad? We got very powerful weapons. You might not be able to shoot the hurricane down, but you know what? If you've got food and water and a heat source, in a place where you can stay dry, you're going to survive, right? So I would encourage you, I don't think you have to be a doomsday enthusiast or prepper. But I do think that you have to be really prepared for all hazards, whether they're weather-related or they're man-made or they're just part of your daily activity.

I have a tourniquet in my car. Why? I don't think I'm going to get shot real quick, but I could get in a car accident where I cut myself really bad and I might need a tourniquet or I might need to apply a tourniquet to someone else. that's not because I'm paranoid. That's because I want to be reasonably prepared. So I'd encourage you to, I'd encourage your listeners too. Speak out ways that you can prepare yourself.

Go to a stop of bleed class. Learn how first aid works. Find out on ready.gov how to make a kit and prepare for a weather emergency or a man-made emergency. And at least in doing those things, you'll be a little bit more calm if something happens because you know you've invested yourself in training and equipment that will keep you prepared when something bad happens.

And Bob, yeah, absolutely. I want to ask you, too, a lot of people with World War III, because we're talking about World War III, a lot of people, their minds automatically go to nuclear war, right? And if you want to go into nuclear war, which we won't go into too deep, we have before on other episodes. But, you know, if you had a nuclear war at a scale to where there were people that survived, they were not in direct pass of radiation, and that is possible, but you still have what is called nuclear winter, which would indefinitely happen with a mass amount of nuclear

warheads that blocked out the sun and all of the, in all of the smoke and clouds from that. and many experts say that could last four to seven years, right? But let's forget about that. Let's forget that. Let's just say that that doesn't even happen. Let's just say... Yeah, let's do that. Let's say that doesn't happen because I don't think we can really do much.

Yeah. So let's just say, though, because a lot of these smart bombs now, the Russia has, North Korea, I believe probably has, they say China 100% has. We're talking about EMP weapons, which is electromagnetic pulse. where you have a scenario to where a country could launch three or four, according to many experts, could launch three or four EMPs that would basically impact, I think they said it could impact 40,000 feet above the surface of the United States, that could knock out all power completely. That means communications.

That means Internet. that means your power system. And as we know in this world that we live in today, everything depends on power, electricity, everything. We saw what happened with COVID in the very beginning where we had toilet paper shortages. I mean, people were going bat shit crazy over, you know, this virus, which, you know, the virus was bad. It killed, you know, whatever. But think about an EMP situation. You're a firearms guy, right? And I'm, and I'm, I'm making this point to what you were kind of just saying. I mean, you know firearms.

You're probably a pretty good shot. To your point to where it's like I am not necessarily the doomsday prepper, but I'm not also the guy that says it's never going to happen. But how important is that even with firearms, and I think you can put this in the scenario with everything else surrounding your readiness to be prepared and ready for what may happen, anyone can own a firearm, right? Anybody can.

But, like, how proficient are you going to be at the firearm? Without the ammo? No, no, no. Not with him without ammo, but without training, without understanding and being comfortable with the firearm, right? Like, if you're not comfortable with your firearm, you might as well just almost not even have a firearm. I mean, maybe it'll help you, like, in some cases.

But, like, if you're not proficient with it, you're not comfortable with it. You're not like a, I mean, I know I'm not saying, you're going to be a Navy seal with it. But what is your thoughts as far as readiness, right? I mean, practicing. I think firearms is a great example of that. That's why I bring that up. Well, let's look at that.

So from a legal, and I'm not getting legal advice on your show, but I'm going to speak generally about the law and kind of the concern I have as a lawyer when clients ask me questions about concealed carry or carrying their gun. or just having a gun in their possession if something happens, right? And you make a really good point. So first, basic firearm safety is huge, right? So how many people, I mean, it happens by you, it happens by me throughout the country,

avoidable shootings, avoidable deaths from firearms because people either don't know how to handle a or don't know the basic safety rules of a firearm, and yet they're around firearms, right? So we have people that accidentally shoot themselves. Then we have firearms that are left open or left in a drawer where they can be easily accessed either by a perpetrator that goes into your house or, more importantly, a child. And it could be a child that's visiting your house, right, a niece, a nephew, a cousin, and comes over, right, with their children. And next thing you know, you've got a two-year-old shooting a three-year-old.

Right. So learning how to safely store your firearms hugely important. But frankly, if you're going to use a firearm in any situation, whether you're hunting, target shooting, or, God forbid, you have to defend yourself legally. Yes. If you don't know how to handle that firearm, it's really not good. You're really relying on luck. And you're so right, because we were watching, for a fact today,

we're watching this guy that was shooting a shotgun for the first time. And he was this like big, you know, hillbilly type guy, but he didn't expect the backfire that was coming off the weapon. And that's what I think you're saying is, you don't know what that weapon really can do unless you go shoot it and practice and learn how to, you know, do the safety and do all these things. Well, the interesting, yeah, and also the interesting thing, like in law enforcement and stuff like that, you know, you got to think about like when you're in a position with a person, right? Law enforcement, people see this all the time. You know, your firearm is your lifeline.

And so you can't hope that that thing works correctly or you know. know how to use it, right? I mean, that's the reality. Well, it's the same thing with a home invasion. Yeah. You know, somebody comes in your house and you have this big old shotgun in your hand. Well, you've got to know how to use it and able to make it work. Yeah.

Yeah. And make sure that you don't accidentally shoot something you're not supposed to. Right. Like your dog or something. Yeah. Oh, there was like four dogs in the vicinity. Yeah. Well, we killed like eight people, but at least we got the guy.

Yeah, but we got the guy. Yeah. Yeah. We did kill all our dogs. Sorry. Sorry about the two families across the street. Gosh, that bad guy is not coming in our house again. Yeah, there's a lot. So, again, I get a lot of calls from clients about this stuff.

And it's huge. I think, you know, you have a lot of responsibility for possessing a deadly weapon. And if you don't dedicate yourself to a little bit of training to figure out how it works and how to use it. And to learn, again, the basic firearm safety rules, take a couple of classes from the NRA or from your local gun instructor. You could really, I mean, you can ruin your life. Yeah, absolutely. You can end your life. You could ruin your life.

You can end up in prison, even if you were in a situation where you thought you were in the right. And so, you know, my suggestion to your viewers, or, you. your listeners, you really need to take your, take your advice. You've got to learn the safety rules and you've got to train with your tools. Nobody in the United States has been able to legally drive without taking some kind of a class and going through a license test, right? Which, by the way, I don't know how some people are still driving. I just don't get it.

Well, where's that? But in the United States, there are, in some states, there is no requirement for a license, and there's no requirement for you to take a class. You don't even have to know how a gun works to purchase a gun. Oh, for guns. Okay, for guns, but not a driver's license. And I get that's what your point is. Okay, got it.

But it's like when Sherry and Bob's mom comes down, and I'm going to make this a very valid point. Don't go there, Chad. No, I got to. Don't go there. Don't go there. And then her mom's like, hey, we're going to, I'm going to drive you to the mall. I'm like, Sherry, I do not know. You're not, no.

You're driving to the mall. But my mom does have a driver's license and she has to pass it every year, you guys. So she does pass the driver's license. Yeah, except for when he. She's still able to pass the driver's stuff. Yeah, as long as she does not. I told her to get bumpers. Yeah.

As long as she does not hit any more trees or anything like that. Oh, my gosh. All right, Bob. I want to kind of close with this. I know we're getting pretty late in this episode, which I think this is all-encompassing episode. There's a lot to be talked about here. And without getting too religious, because we did announce on the podcast, we've talked about religion. And obviously, Bob, our listeners know over the past five years that Sherry has grown up with, well, in kind of a Jewish household, right?

I mean, you're Jewish. you know, I think y'all's dad was predominantly Jewish. That whole scenario, I grew up Christian, right? I grew up Christian, Jesus Christ, so on and so forth. And so one thing Sherry's always kind of struggle with is like, well, you know, if Christians say that Jesus Christ is the only way, right, did not have a problem with that because my family. And so one of the things we kind of talked about really over the past two years, and I know we're closing with this because we have had more response from our comments on this of anything we've ever done. So I feel like it's only fair to close with this with you,

because we are at two different, not really standpoints, because I'm going to explain that in just a second. But essentially, and we don't get to go into like history and all this stuff, but from my understanding, the Jewish Bible, the Torah, right, is essentially the Old Testament. And I kind of grew up with, you know, that Jesus Christ was a Savior. and I grew up also just believing and going through my life, believing what was told to me in church.

And one of the things that we have always done in this podcast is that this podcast's whole entire point was corruption, finding the truth. It's the reason why we're doing World War III. Some of the things we talk about is sad. It's kind of like Debbie Downer and like, oh, my God, the world's going to end. And that's not what we're trying to do. We're trying to prepare people at the very least.

We're trying to talk about the thing. that maybe other people are not. And we're not necessarily always right. And that's why we're not always, you know, like tonight, we're not saying World War III is going to happen a week from now or any of that stuff. We're just saying that like, hey, these are the things that are happening. And that's why we try to bring on various viewpoints. I mean, for example, JD that's coming on Tuesday.

He's on the front lines right now fighting for Ukraine. He is a U.S. Army vet, I think special forces. He created a group that went over. We talked about that. But JD came to our podcast because he did not agree with our stance on the Russia-Ukraine war situation. He actually not cussed us out, but close to that in an email. And so we had emailed him back and said, J.D., listen, we respect you. And I want you to come on and tell your side of the story.

Like, we're not saying we're right. And by the way, if you listen to a podcast, we're just giving our opinions on certain things. JD came on. He talked about his side of things. And so I think that all media should always do this. Like if you think that you know something and someone debates it that you think, you have to be open to say, hey, let's listen to your side. Right. Let's talk about it.

Let's discuss. So my point to this is. Oh, there's the blah, blah, blah, blah shirt. That's where that comes from. I guess my point to this is, is that we've talked about religion. I've struggled with it. Sherry's struggle with it. And we're actually about to start a series.

on understanding and knowing the Bible, or at least there's been so many people say, I like your stance on how you feel about things because that's exactly how I feel. I feel like I don't know. I feel like I'm confused. I feel like I have no idea what's going on. I feel lost.

I want answers. I want all these things. And the reason why these people are connecting because I feel the exact same way, and I know they know I feel the exact same way. And not just me, Sherry, too. Sherry's the exact same way. And so,

So we're going to start that series. But the reason I mentioned that to end with this is because if we want to talk about World War III, and I think we had mentioned this verse on another podcast. And Bob, we can get your closing statement on this, on this. But when we're talking about World War III, we have a potential of nuclear war where the wrong situation, the wrong decision, the wrong decision on a stance on a particular war, war, whether it's Russia, Ukraine, or whether it's this or that, whether it's the United States declaring that we have this bomb that's going to do this, or whether it's U.S. involvement also,

because there's a lot of reports coming out that U.S. high commanders are inside of Israel right now, inside of Gaza, that are leading a lot of the charges in Gaza. We don't know that for fact, but there are a lot of reports coming out about that. There's also been reports coming out about the U.S. involvement in special operations divisions inside of Ukraine. They're actually there. And so if you look at countries like Russia, you look at countries like the people that support Hamas and Palestine, these are all very short fuses for nuclear potential war.

And then if you think about on the horizon, China, China is out here, Russia's out here, supporting Iran and all this. But I want to close to this just going with the... With the World War III thing, the Battle of Armageddon, any of these things you guys think about, the end times. I want to close with this, and Bob, you can tell your opinion on this. Zachari 12. I will make Jerusalem and Judah like a cup of poison to all the nearby nations that send their armies to surround Jerusalem. Jerusalem will be a heavy stone burdening the world.

And though all the nations of the earth unite in an attempt to make. move her, they will all be crushed. In that day, says the Lord, I will be willeder the armies drawn up against her and make fools of them, for I will watch over the people of Judah, but blind all of the enemies. And the clans of Judah shall say to themselves that people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of hosts, their God. Just, yeah, that basically says, and listen, I'm not pro.

I mean, I guess I am obviously more pro-Israel than anything. But what I'm saying is understanding my confusion. I think you're a pro-God is what you're saying. Well, I'm pro-God. It's not God who's what's in the Bible and what the God or even what God says. But listen, I do believe at the very least that the Israel story, right, with the Israelites, Canaan and the originality story. of of Israel.

Is this the verse in Zacharii 12 that we're about to witness in our lifetime, Bob? Could be. You know, we say Am Yusri al-Hai, the Jewish people live. And I close now every post on Facebook with Ham Yusrael-Hai. because more than ever we need to hear that. People of the Jewish faith live, but frankly, the people of the world live. Whether you're a Christian, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Taoist, a Jew,

we are all in my belief, and in my belief system, we are all created in the image of God. We are all from that creator. And you believe all people, not just Jews and Christen. Look, I believe, yeah, I believe that I believe in one God and that God's power is infinite, and God created everything, good and bad. So yes, God created me, created, Kamaas, created, this is all, this is all, God's creation.

So do you think how we Do you think Hamas can go to heaven or whatever you think of heaven? People, people go to heaven. I don't know if organizations go to heaven. But

that's good answer. That was a good answer though. People go to heaven, but organizations do not. I like that answer. That is a really good answer. It depends on your own

your own heart, I guess. It, well, and, you know, I, I cannot, I cannot pretend to be God and judge. That's not my, that's not my job. My job is to deal with my life. I've got enough imperfection that I have a full-time job. I can't handle your imperfection and decide whether or not you're doing the right thing. I've got to focus on. Actually, we actually brought you on to, Judge.

Oh, Chad, shut up. I'm just kidding. Sorry, go ahead. I was just saying, if everybody did a little bit more of that and a little less about what everybody else is doing, we'd probably be in a better place regardless what religion you are. And I think I am one, I mean, I admit, I'm one to, like, get pissed off at that other side because they're not listening to what I want them to say

instead of, like, you know, being more godly and saying, I want to listen to you to have decor. and to talk about these things to come up with solutions, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, there's my... Oh, God. The way I keep saying blah, blah, blah, Bob is because somebody sent us a T-shirt is blah, blah, blah. Well, that's why they said it. But I really feel...

At least you have listeners that care about you guys. But listen, we... But I really, like, I get that. And it's hard to be that person, you know, of course I want God to love me. And I, you know, I believe in God. I don't know what religion I am. I don't. But I know that God loves me and I love God.

And that's what's really important to me. And as long as God loves me, I know I'm doing a good job. And Bob, listen, I actually, I'm going to challenge you, by the way, to when we start this biblical series, and you probably are going to want to depart on the New Testament, I guess, as a Jewish person. But in the beginning, I do want to go through the entire Bible as far as kind of the way I'm going through it. I'm going through it with just the consensus of reading through it. Well, you're going with an open mind, but you're also raised as a Christian. I was. Absolutely.

That, you know, you already have prefaces. No, not really. No, not in the Old Testament. I don't at all. But there are a lot of very concerning questions. Not concerning questions. Just a lot of questions I have about the Old Testament. But I want to go through all those things. I want to kind of go through the entire Bible as a series. Because there's so many people, when we reached out, and said, hey, I want to go through the Bible and I want to come at it, not as a preacher, but as someone that once answered, just like so many people do. So I'd be willing to welcome you on definitely some of the Old Testament stuff to get some of your thoughts on some of the verses and some of the ways that things were back then that are very confusing to me as far as like how and why and what.

but yeah we definitely welcome you back on for that because I think it's important I don't know that you know I told sherry I said I don't want to uh I know we're doing this in in the hopes of like we're going to find answers and we may not I may not necessarily I don't know but I've had this like burning in my soul and heart and whatever it is I've had dreams about it um and I and I and I said this on another podcast but you know before this podcast I said, you know, we felt a lot of things because we, Sherry and I both know we did. And so do you.

And so does everybody else. We felt a lot of things. But I always said, I said, God, if you give us money, we'll help other people. And God, if you give us a platform, then we will do our very best to, I don't know, not even necessarily speak your word, but at least. And so then once I got to that point of like, hey, we have a platform now. Well, the burden on my heart is like, hey, let's try to go through everything and then give my opinion and my stance on what I believe.

And I think the reason for that is because how I've talked about this before, there's been so many people that said I feel the exact same way. Yeah, but I think it's difference too. And I think Bob can relate to this, that he, you know, he married a girl of faith that was a, what was she? Catholic. Catholic. I'm a girl of faith that doesn't believe in anything.

All I know is I believe in my in my God and what I feel and how I believe in God and I believe God talks to me. I know God talks to me. I know all those things. But it's, you know, it'll be really interesting. Yeah, I just want to strip away the belief systems on everything that I've ever known growing up. I want to strip everything away. The same way, the same way that I want to look at COVID, where I want to look at like what is actually going on in the world. I want to look at the Bible and God and all that stuff the same way.

I want to look at it from everything I know now. I want to go through everything and acknowledge everything the Bible says, and I want to make my consensus. Yeah, and a lot of people are not going to agree with that because you got to go with faith. A lot of it is, you know, you got to believe in what God says in its faith, and you're not going to get the answers. But, you know, just going through it as a people together, I think will make us, you know, I don't know.

I don't know. Something. But Bob, do you agree or disagree with that? As you go through it. Oh, absolutely. I'll tell you two things. One, I'd suggest that. So as you go through it, always remember that sometimes there's a deeper meaning than what you literally read.

Yeah, I think that's really important, keep in mind. And then more importantly, say this, I've had the pleasure and the honor to, pray with preachers and priests, imams and rabbis, Hindus, Buddhists, I think that if you avail yourself

to learning about other people, their culture, their religion, and the way they live, you can always learn something. Yeah. There's always something that you can, you can, you can, grow from that experience.

Even if you don't agree with them, you can always learn something. And ultimately, if you do, perhaps that helps you grow to a higher understanding of that person or that people or that society. And then God willing, it brings us closer to peace. And that's truly what I think all of us pray for. Oh, yeah. You're so right. Yeah.

I agree. I agree. Bob, I appreciate you coming on. And like I said, I mean, it's been long, but I mean, and we could literally talk for hours because there's so many things to talk about. I mean, this world right now is so complex. It is so scary. It is also full of hope at the same time. And I want to make that a point because I know we talk a lot about doomsday stuff.

But the reason I want to go through the Bible, the reason I want to talk about. The reason I want to talk about that stuff is because that, I believe, is the hope. Our everyday living, our everyday society, our everyday life that we see is physical manifestations of a lot of times hate, a lot of times our everyday life. But I think the hope is in the things that we don't understand. And if you guys that have followed our podcast for five years, almost everything, so many things we talk about is things that we don't understand, but we have faith enough to. try to understand them. And so the reason why I want to go through the Bible, which is one of the most historical context or books in history, why would we not? Right? I mean, that's like, this is not Bigfoot. This is not whatever. This is one of the most historical text in history,

and even back in Hebrew. And so if there's, if there's one thing I want to figure out the most, if there's one conspiracy, if you, per se, right? If there's a conspiracy you want to figure out, It would be the Bible and God and the relationship that you should or shouldn't have or how much should he be involved. I think those things are the core in my mind of like maybe where we can find answers. And like I said, I've worried that like after the end of this series, I hope that I am not, I mean, I've told Sherry this. I said I hope that I don't like lead either people down the wrong path. I don't want to ever lead anyone down any path. I want to give my opinions on things.

Well, it's so hard, too, because when we're talking about the Bible, you're talking about religions. But we're going to try to put the religions aside and just talk about what the Bible says. No matter what religion you are, what, you know, if you're Muslim, Arab, I don't think Arabs are religion, but Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, any of those. We want to put the religions aside and just study the word of the Bible, I guess. Because listen, guys, I feel like that the reason also I want to do this, and I've never thought that there was a time in my life that it was the most important time. The same reason I asked Bob earlier, do you go to sleep worrying about a nuclear bomb hitting your city or your state? He said no. And maybe, but what if, right?

And I think that if, say, for example, you get a message on your TV tonight at 3 a.m. and it says a nuclear attack has happened on the United States of America in California. Are you ready to go? Are you ready to be with whoever? Your number one thought is going to be, did I figure it out?

It makes me roll my eyes. I know, but listen, I know, but I understand that, but what I'm saying is I think that is the first thing that people are going to think about maybe. I mean, not everyone, but I think there's a lot of people are going to figure out, like, do I have the right answers?

Do I know? Do I, did I even try? And that's what I want to try to do is like at least try to understand. regardless of whether or not it's me. I'm not a preacher. I don't know anything about the Bible. I mean, I've read the Bible, but I don't fully understand it.

I just want to try to go through it as a normal person, just like anyone else. And I want to try to make sense of it. That's it. So. Every day is a gift. It is, absolutely. I mean, it's especially now. Bob, thank you so much for coming on.

But I think, you know, when we talk about World War II, three, I think this is the things that people are concerned about. Oh, yeah. Obviously, people are going to be concerned about their religion or their spiritual outlook of their life. If your life, if you're looking at your life and it could end tomorrow, of course, people are going to look at their spiritual outlook of their life. And you're probably, by the way, you're probably more likely to get in a car accident tomorrow and die than a nuclear bomb. But it's still important to look there and go there. Yeah, absolutely. And I think, I think,

you know, whatever leads you to a question is what leads you there. It may not be the fact that you are more likely to get in a car accident. Whatever God's plan for that is, I don't know, but. But all I know is I think this podcast was meant to be. Obviously, God is speaking in this podcast. And Bob, I really appreciate you coming on and giving us all of your insight. You always seem to like make me like an awe. And that's why I was like, oh, I'm kind of nervous because it's my older brother.

but you've always put me in awe. I'm just going to say I've always looked up to you as somebody more than my, you know, big brother. So I appreciate you coming on. She does look up to you. I do look up to you and I love you so much. Sure. I love you too. And thank you for having me on, guys.

And I'll just say to your listeners, it'd be good to make a kit, go to ready. org, learn CPR and first aid, learn how to stop the bleed. And then treat every day like it's a gift. Yep. Kiss your family and appreciate the little things. Yep. And stay happy. Yeah.

It's so easy to miss everything. Yeah, we can't look at doom and bloom all the time. We've got to look at the things that are happy in life. All right. Well, next episode, we'll do a happy episode. Yeah, well, Bob is even, yeah, Bob's even talked about that with the, like, the secret and all those things. Like, there's great things we can talk about. Yeah, there is.

We'll have to figure it out. Because we're, our mindset, you know, with this podcast, so, I mean, it's, it's, it's not that we're trying to do doom and gloom. It's just we're trying to talk about, you know, the things that we wouldn't even know. It's a truth. But there's a lot of, there's a lot of doom and gloom out there. But let's make the best of what we can. For sure. Well, Bob, thank you so much for coming on.

And by the way, we're going to end this episode. And Bob, you can listen this if you want. And this is probably not the ending name you want to hear. But the name of this song is Nuclear. by Mike Oldfield Which I really like this song I think is a really good song It is a good song

It has a lot of meaning Bob, thank you so much for coming on And guys, thank Bob for coming on So many people loved Bob Yeah, and you guys reach out Because I do send Bob All of your comments

Because, you know He's not up there You know I appreciate them, thank you All right thanks guys so much Until next time, we love you Peace out Peace out guys

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