Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast - World War 3 Podcast | Russian Missles Hit Poland | Article 5?

Episode Date: November 16, 2022

The news today of Russian missles hitting Nato member Poland has everyone talking about an escalation in the Russia Ukraine War to the point of World War 3. Will this event trigger Article 5? What is Article 5 and what may be the result of this attack.... We discuss all of that and more on this episode of World War 3 Podcast - Conspiracy Podcasts

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Yeah, guys. So something happened pretty crazy today. Poland was hit with missiles. As we know right now, missiles, they are saying, from Russia. And so this could be potentially a very, very drastic escalation in the whole entire situation with Russia, Ukraine, Russia and NATO, and World War III. And so we're going to talk about, number one, what could come from this? Number two, we're going to talk about what is Article 5, because Article 5 is what would be triggered in the event that a NATO country is attacked or

potentially about to be attacked. And so this is something that we have to think about, and, you know, is this going to trigger Article 5? Is there other options other than Article 5, I guess, is another thing. And, you know, did Russia do this? Did they do it on purpose? Was it even Russia? Was it somebody else to like portray? I mean, we just have to ask a lot of questions right now because this is a big thing. Like, this is a really big deal, y'all. Absolutely. But guys, welcome, welcome. Welcome from around the world. It is 7.09 right now, PM here on the East Coast of the United States. We think each and every single one of you for listening and supporting us. We love each and every one of you guys. You guys,

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the meat of the podcast, which obviously is not all about the BS we just talked about. Right, but this is all happening today. Yeah, we're here to talk about the Russia missile strike that is killed two in NATO member Poland. And so there were missiles that crossed into Poland territory and killed two people. And that was two day, Tuesday. And this is November 15, 2022.

And the two people they killed were actually Polish people. Yeah. Obviously, because it's Poland. So it probably would be Poland people. Well, I'm saying a lot of Ukrainians are over in Poland now. So we don't know if it was Ukrainians or Polish people unless we say Poland. Yeah, I know. I get that.

I was just my sonny. But anyways, but the rockets they're saying were likely Russian. A senior U.S. intelligence officials said, and, in fact, confirmed could pull the NATO alliance into the Ukraine war. Now, this strike basically occurred near this Polish village of, I cannot read this, but press a Wadov. No, definitely not what it says. But anyways, it's some 45 miles north of the Ukrainian city of Leviv. And so it's not very far, 45 miles from LeViv, which is, you know, I mean, in Ukraine. And it's 15 miles from the Ukrainian border.

So, I mean, still, 15 miles outside the border when you're launching rockets is a decent ways outside the border. So you don't think that could. Well, we'll talk about that later. But the official with knowledge of the situation told the Associated Press. So a spokesperson for the Polish government did not immediately confirm the information, but said on Twitter leaders in Warsaw were in a meeting over a crisis situation. And in Polish radio station, Zet reported that two stray missiles had hit the region, killing two people.

The reports did not attribute the strikes to Russia or provide any further details at that time. And then so the Pentagon said it could not immediately confirm the report of Russian missile strike in Poland. And so General Patrick Ryder said, first let me go ahead and highlight up front that we were aware of the press reports, alleging that two Russian missiles have struck a location in side Poland near the Ukraine border. And he says that I can

tell you that we do not have any information at this time to corroborate those reports and are looking into this further. And so when we do have an update to provide, we'll be sure to do so. And I guess President Biden spoke or mumbled to Andres

Duda, which is the Polish president, by phone Tuesday evening. And according this was all according to a tweet by Duda's office. So that's basically what we're getting. And so if you see the picture of where these missiles or missile actually hit Poland, it looks like a farm type area. There's a tractor in the picture and some other debris, you know,

and immediate aftermath video that is on Twitter you guys can find. If you just look at Polish missile attack or whatever, I mean, it looks like a missile attack. to me as far as someone was taking video literally right after this happened and it was it was almost like a smaller mushroom type cloud which is what a lot of you know just whatever missiles make you know you typically hear a mushroom cloud in a nuclear bomb right the huge mushroom cloud but most missiles will make some type of mushroom mushroom yeah or even major explosions will make mushroom clouds could you tell where the video was coming from was it coming from it was a couple of

miles away. The Polish area? Yeah, it was in Poland, yeah. Yeah, so they were able to actually video this right after it happened or during. It was literally right after it. Because I've not seen it, so I don't know. Because someone brought out, obviously, the camera as soon as they heard or saw or whatever. That big bang.

Because the smoke was just coming up. And it was a pretty big explosion. I mean, it looks like something you would see in a war area. So what does this mean? First, let's talk about, I guess what we should talk about. about is what is Article 5? Well, the whole thing on Twitter today, since this polling attack has been trending, is Article 5. Everyone on Twitter is talking about, oh, Article 5 should be triggered now. Article 5 should be triggered. And it's not just people saying Article 5 will be triggered

or could be triggered or we're fearful Article 5 will be triggered. It's mostly, not to get political, but I'm just saying it's mostly the anti-war liberal Democrats that are posting all these. They want to jump all over Article 5. Yeah, they want to start World War III for whatever reason because this is what their mindset has been. Right. And these are supposedly people that have been against war. Forever. Supposedly.

Their whole political like whatever. Yeah, I mean, you know, the question is what happened to the anti-war left? because that's no longer a thing. Now it is, you know, the left for a long time in America has used a war against Republicans. And for a good reason, you know, it was a great way to use a political advantage to talk shit about anyone that went to war. George Sr. or just all the other wars and things we're in around the world, this is what Democrats used against Republicans. Oh, if you want a war, go ahead and vote for a Republican. But the reality is, without getting too political, you know, the left has supposedly always said they want no war, their anti-war.

They're, you know, if you think of the left or just that side, say back in 70s and 80s, these were the peace-loving hippie. The people against Vietnam War. Yeah, against Vietnam. Against all the guys that went over there. When they came back, they're ostracized, if I said it right. Yeah, yeah. Those were those people. Yeah, so what is Article 5?

Well, let's explain. The reason why everyone's talking about Article 5 in regards to this Poland, Russia missile attack on Poland, Article 5 is basically the principle that an attack on one member of NATO is an attack on all members. It's been a cornerstone, basically, of a 30-member alliance since it was found in 1949, and it's essentially been a counterweight to the Soviet Union. So, Soviet Union, obviously, there's a lot of people that say, that this Russia-Ukraine thing, you know, especially all of the

mainstream media, they've always wanted you to believe this Russia-Ukraine war was because, you know, it was because Putin wants to get back to Soviet Union. Now, whereas that may be a little tiny bit true, it may also, if you've listened to any of our Russia-Ukraine war podcast or World War III, you know, you'll understand that it's probably not as

black and white as what the media wants you to fill. I mean, you know, from the bio, labs to just the fact that literally all the corruption in the Ukrainian government and the United States and all of their, I guess, relationships over the years, especially with Biden and Hunter Biden and all of that. Including Trump, Trump was, you know, he talked to Ukraine, not corruption-wise, we don't know.

Well, Trump, at the time, he did not give them their money that he was supposed to get them until they did something for him. Well, it wasn't it did something for him. No, that's not exactly what it was. That was what they were trying to say. They were trying to say Trump was doing a quid pro quo, which is not what was happening because they could never prove that. That's what Biden did, though.

Oh, okay. That's why I remember hearing in the news. Yeah, that's what Biden did as far as Hunter because he demanded the prosecutor be fired because they were investigating Hunter Biden. And so Biden said, Joe Biden, Ukraine that you're not going to get your money unless you fired a prosecutor. That is a quid for a quo. That's corruption.

Now look, who knows what Trump's done or hasn't done? Who knows? But all I'm saying is we know for sure because that was on video, as Joe Biden specifically saying this. So anyways, so NATO is a 30-member country

alliance. This is 30 countries that all get together and they've and it's mostly been U.S. led. U.S. has been the ones that kind of brought this into... They're like the powerful part of the whole NATO.

Yeah, so the principle aims to deter potential adversaries from attacking NATO members. Article 5 guarantees that the resources of the whole alliance can be used to protect any single member nation. So when a NATO country is attacked, it doesn't just have to be the United States that goes and blows up whoever or goes and fights

Russia. This means that all countries in NATO can or should respond to assist whatever NATO country has been hit or attacked or whatever. So this is crucial for many of the smaller countries who would be defenseless without their allies. And Iceland, for example, has no standing army whatsoever. Now, we've heard about the European Union. We've heard about NATO. We've heard about all of that stuff. And so NATO is kind of like a promise that says, look, you know what, if you join us and kind of follow a lot of our rules and let us manipulate and use you for a lot of ways, then we will protect you.

And you don't even have to have an army. You don't even got to really do a whole lot with your army because, look, we're the United States and we're massive. And we have all of this firepower. And because we are nuclear armed, you don't have to worry about it. But what you do need to let us do is we need to put some nuclear bombs around Russia. some of stuff like that. We've got to be able to utilize you almost like our own country. And all we need is, you know, or all you need is just for us to protect you. That's kind of what NATO is. And I believe Poland was the last one to join NATO, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah. Yeah. And so the thing is, is that since the United States is the largest and the most powerful NATO member, you know, when you say that, you know, NATO is under NATO protection, it's really under United States protection. It is the largest and the most powerful country in NATO. And there's not even a close second. Well, you have countries like UK and other big countries, but they're not. They're not the firepower and the military power that the United States has always been known to be. So according to Article 5, the parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all. And consequently, they agree that if such an armed attack attack against them, occurs, each of them.

An exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 on the Charter of United Nations will assist the party or parties so attacked by taking forewith, individually, and in concert with the other parties. Such action as it

deems necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

And during the Cold War, the main concern was the Soviet Union. But in recent years, obviously, Russia aggression in Eastern Europe, they're kind of, you know, the mainstream media wanted you to believe that Russia, one of the main reasons they attacked Ukraine was because Ukraine was threatening to join NATO or trying or attempting to join NATO. And that was something that Russia definitely did not want to happen. And I'm not saying that that's not part of the reason that Russia is in there. It could be all the reason we don't know. We've talked a lot about that.

But what we do know is I think Ukraine, through corruption and money, was a member of NATO without having to be technically a member of NATO. United States wanted to use the Ukraine like a member of NATO and even more so, but they didn't want to do it publicly, I guess you can say. to the point of, hey, we're announcing Ukraine is NATO now. Because if they did that, there's a lot of things, number one, that would be obvious, you know, as far as nuclear and what happens there. You know, would that cause Russia to go to an all-out nuclear war because of the fact that they would know the consequence of that? There's a lot of reasons.

So United States basically wanted to, you know, get in bed with Ukraine. It was almost like the United Nations was the wife and Ukraine is the mistress. The mistress. I'm not going to say prostitute than mistress. Well, yeah. Well, all the NATO countries are like wives, you know. And then Ukraine's like a prostitute. I mean, meaning like you get to sneak them in.

I'd rather say mistress than prostitute. Really, really is the United States as a prostitute because you sneak United States in under the covers. Yeah. Right. Behind closed doors. Yeah. And so that's what the United States is. been doing essentially in Ukraine for a long time. And, you know, there's obviously a reason. If you,

any of you guys around the world have heard about Ukraine, you've probably, you know, I'm talking about not just recently. I'm talking about in the past five, ten years. If you hear Ukraine, you probably hear United States name mentioned in there somewhere. Oh, absolutely. And every year, we're always constantly giving them money that, you know, they're expecting every year. even when Trump was in office, he was giving them money for stuff, and this was not even during a war. Well, let me tell you why they were giving them money. It was because, you know, when you put things in their country that they're not a part of NATO, then they go and say, listen, we can't do NATO right now because if we do NATO, we feel that, you know, I'm sure the United States said Russia will definitely attack you or causing a lot of nuclear war or whatever. So what we want to do is we will give you money, but in lieu of that,

we need to put some nuclear bombs on the border, and we also need to get some bio-weapons labs over there. Yes, we've got to have some secret labs over there. And God knows what else, right? Which those labs have since been moved to Sweden is what I've heard, but I don't know. Who knows? And then also, but in doing this, part of this deal,

which is some of the rumors we've heard, and we're going to probably do an entire other podcast on this, we're going to send you billions of dollars but you have to take a certain percentage of that billions of dollars you have to turn it into crypto or digital currency and then you have to pay all the Democrats or some of the head Democrats

almost launderer our money and bring it back to us people that are giving it to you which are the Democrats. Yeah, laundering money back to the Democrats as little bonuses right? These are some of the ways that political people and by the way it may not just be Democrats I'm sure there are Republicans in there as well. I'm sure. But Hunter

is at the top of the list. Yeah, absolutely. He's like in bed with Ukraine and he was before. He's a, yeah, well, he's been in bed with a lot of shit. I knew you're going to say that. He probably did. But he's definitely in bed with him. And he has no, like,

where is his credentials to even be doing these things with Ukraine? His dad is Hunter, or is Joe Biden. I mean, that's his credentials. So yeah, so that's basically what is, what has happened. And so here's a deal. Russia has recently issued its first statement.

This was as of 3 p.m. Eastern Time, so 1500 Eastern Time, here in the United States. But they issued its first statements in the wake of conflicting reports concerning the suspected missile attack on Polish territory. And Russia is calling the reports a deliberate provocation and is denying that its forces have aimed any missiles near the Ukraine border at all. per Interfax news. And so the Russian defense ministry issued a statement

saying it has not taken part in strikes against targets near the Ukrainian Polish border using Russian weapons as is

being alleged by Polish sources. The Russian statement further said in Warsaw's attempt to escalate the situation, the Pentagon

has meanwhile said it can corroborate or it can't corroborate the reports, which is what we talked

about earlier. And so that's what we're and so the Russian Defense Ministry has denied all reports of this. Right. And this is an interesting fact. And this is what's leading the media right now. Yeah. And this is a very interesting fact because you could go either side. You could say,

oh yeah, Russia's doing this, but you know what's going to happen if Russia did this deliberately. It's going to take us into World War III, right? But let's say if somebody else did it to make it look like Russia to get more people on their side or whatever, it's you know they have nothing to lose in that case yeah but russia yeah in russia i don't think they have much to lose either i don't know it's just like like a crazy thing like who actually bombed poland yeah and was it on purpose or was it on accident well so article five and and keep this in mind too you're right i mean we don't know it could be it could be a um it could be like a a red fly or red flag it could be a it could be a red flag it could be be a false flag. It could be something that

whether it be, I mean, it would have to either be Ukraine or Russia, I would assume, unless it's not a missile attack at all. But either way, it has to be one of the two. It could be Russia. But it could be Russia filling out how NATO responds to certain things like that.

Because Russia is probably going, you know, one of the big things about NATO and one of the reasons actually NATO was kind of created as well was to, you know, basically tell all these other countries, like, you don't need nuclear because we have nuclear. So, because we have nuclear, you don't have to worry about nuclear. And all you have to do is just join our little private club. And to the rest of the world, especially Soviet Union back in the day, but NATO has

only gotten stronger since then, you know, to the rest of the world, it kind of deters them from ever thinking about trying to take over other countries in Europe. And so, you know, this is, is the thing. But Article 5 is not an automatic trip wire to where if something like this happens like what is happening right now, it is not to say that if there's one missile that goes over

the border or whatever the case may be, that Article 5 is automatically enacted. And so it relies on a consensus of other NATO decision-making processes. And it's not just the United States, supposedly. But Ukraine and Poland's defense, wish list just became more achievable, but a NATO consensus on direct conflict with Russia is

hardly a given, and all parties involved know this. And that's the thing. You know, that's kind of the shitty part about NATO. It's like there's two parts of this. It's like one part is, okay, well, if this is confirmed as Russian rockets that struck and killed two citizens in Poland, then something would have to be done because otherwise, You have to retaliate. Other countries, well, some way, in some shape, form or fashion, I guess. But the thing is, it's like, you know,

it's almost as if other countries are going to say, well, look, so Russia just hit Poland with missiles, killed two people, a NATO country, and yet I ain't doing a damn thing. And that's what a lot of NATO members are afraid of. It's like, what are you not going to do anything? Because why are we in NATO?

Exactly. But you have to also. taking consideration that there's two powerhouses right here, Russia and United States, and they're the only ones, I believe, in all NATO in Russia, that have nuclear, like, weapons and nuclear powers able to do these things to each other. So this is like a place that we've never been before. Yeah. You know, and you have to think about what strategy are you going to go with. And you have to think about the world. Is the world going to end because of this war. Yeah, well, and that's the thing. You know, there was a thesis, Art Cashin's thesis, that you should never bet on the end of the world, i.e., what he means by that is sell your stocks as intercontinental ballistic missiles start flying. But now, Art Cashin is the dean of the NYS, NYS or Nisi floor, told a story on Tuesday at a big picture. conference in Midtown that illustrated this

point perfectly. It was in the days before the Cuban missile crisis. Mr. Cachan was a young traitor. One day a rumor mushroom that Russians had launched their missiles. World War III was starting. And Mr. Cachan ran across the street to find the best trader he knew who was in a bar having

a drink. Mr. Cachan ran in breathlessly, hardly able to talk. Stop, the trader said. Have a drink. Explain everything. After hearing all the information a trader had one order, buy, don't sell. So that's the thing, though. Because of this whole deal,

the futures have tumbled. Futures is basically, I mean, just think when you hear futures, I'm not going to get into the stock terms. Stocks. Stocks are tumbling after this. The Russian market's tumbling as if they haven't been, but they did make their way back,

and now they're tumbling again. And so this is something that is going to affect the stock market, but I guarantee there's a lot of smart people out there and they're making a shit ton of money right now because all these stocks are tumbling, and they're buying the hell out of them because they know this ain't going to do nothing. And they're getting, I mean,

it's like they're going to Walmart or dollar tree. Yeah, and we have some secrets that we want to tell you coming up. Yeah, absolutely. Like awesome things that you can be doing right now. Yeah, to protect your wealth, to protect your futures, your future money or investments. I mean, it's definitely something that you've got to think about because, look, this world is tumultuous.

It is something that we, I'm not going to say never seen. We kind of saw it in the Cuban Missile Crisis, but I think that, you know, I really think that this situation is so volatile and different that it's in some ways worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis. And, you know, with that being said, regardless of that, inflation and everything, everything that is caused because of this,

and it's not just inflation. I mean, the governments around the world are just, and COVID and everything. You've got to look out for yourself. So what actually has Poland done with the, this. So Poland has invoked NATO Article 4 over alleged Russian missile attack. I've not even heard of Article 4. Yeah. This is interesting. So there's been alarmist everywhere. And this was as of 1715 military time, Eastern Standard Time today.

What time is that? Sorry. It is. Well, 13 is 1. So 13, 14, 15, 16, 7, 5. Sorry. Sorry. I don't know why I could do it. Um, but anyway. So despite all the alarmist talk all afternoon, that NATO could invoke Article 5, collective defense treaty over this attack, the result of the Polish government National Security emergency meeting is going to the opposite direction, and it seems there won't

be an escalation as of today is what they're saying. So the Polish government spokesperson said Poland has agreed to increase its military readiness, though crucially still admitted, it was not clear what caused the explosion in the southeastern town of

Herbie Swash. Russia has absolutely denied it was behind the explosions with killed two people so instead of Article 5 Warsaw is merely taken the much lesser known

Article 4 Article 4 requires consultations when a NATO member is threatened NATO amassers to meet on Wednesday a request of Poland

on the basis of Alliance Article 4 and so two European diplomats said that today so Article 4 is not so out in your face, like we got to do something. Article 4 is like, we got to investigate where this actually came from. Was it Russia? Was it somebody else? Was it an accident? Was it on purpose?

That's what they're kind of looking at right now. Poland. Yeah. So, yeah. So what this kind of means, at least for right now, to Sherry's point, it is an investigation. We have to figure out what this actually was. Was it Russia? We need to make clear of that. Because the last thing Poland wants to do is they don't want to be blamed for World War III. Exactly. Poland don't want to be blamed for the end-all-be-all nuclear war that happens because Article 5 is triggered. Because if Article 5 is triggered and NATO countries and especially the United States decided to launch an offensive on Russia, then that probably would start completely World War III, even though I believe World War III has already been started, you know, via money and just everything.

I mean, this world is falling apart right now. Yeah. And I honestly think World War III was probably started with COVID, but, you know, who knows. But so basically their discussion with NATO country, it basically buys time for investigations, as you're saying, to kind of play themselves out. And so that means that a lot of people can kind of sleep tonight. Because as of right now, you know, there's the likelihood of a nuclear war because of what happened in Poland is slim. But that doesn't mean that depending on what happens from here, that that could not potentially happen. Well, I'm just saying there's probably a lot of people praying, including myself, that Russia didn't do that or if they did do it, it was accident.

Because if Russia did do this on purpose, we got a lot of stuff to discuss and a lot of things to like really think about. So top Ukrainian officials right now, though, including Zelensky, they're not waiting for any outcome of any. ongoing Western investigations. They want stuff to happen now. They're on record right now, blaming Russia. Ukrainian president Zelensky calls apparent Russian missile strike

into Poland and attack on collective security. But you have to investigate. Sorry. He is saying this is a very significant escalation. The Ukrainian leader said, we must act. So obviously, Zelensky is like pushing this thing. He's like, no, we must act now. Yeah, he wants us to act and not,

he doesn't want anyone to investigate if it truly came from Russia. He's like, act on it right now, no matter what. Yeah. But of course he wants to because he wants his country to be helped by NATO. Yeah. So there is a, I'm just getting some news right now, but a highly respected weapons tracker social media account

that's generally seen as a sympathetic to Ukrainian side has broken ranks and suggesting what landed on Polish town was the Ukrainian anti-air missile. What did I say that it could have been somebody else on accident or on purpose? purpose, yeah. Yeah. To make it look like it was Russian missiles. So, yeah, so he has a Twitter account.

Guys, you can go check his Twitter account on. It's Ukraine Weapons Tracker. It is at UA Weapons, if you guys want to check that out. It said, so what crashed in the village of whatever that village name is, Poland today? With the cooperation of Blue Boy, 1969, we analyzed the available photos of fragments and came to a clear conclusion that they belonged to the 48-D-6 motor of, of the 5V-5-5 series missiles of the S-300 AD system, a Ukrainian one. Wow, and they know all these numbers? Oh, yeah, they're weapons tractors.

This is what they do. And I'm just getting this as we're talking right now. That's crazy. So they actually have, they have pictures on their Twitter of thread. It'll show a piece of the missile, right? And it'll have things outlined and all this stuff. and it'll show thread. It says a band.

It has a little thing outlined, two notches. On the other one, it has on another picture. It has bolt pattern S-300 fragments from Ukraine. It also has some other things circled to show the same. Whoever this account is are Ukrainian weapons experts, I guess, which are sympathetic to Ukraine.

And so this original tweet, I want to see, I'm trying to see what time, Although other missile types 48 N6 series and possibly others also use a very similar design, these aren't available to Ukrainian forces. It's important to note here that the ID is only of this fragment. We can't be sure if nothing else landed or precisely how this happened. For comparison, the insil of the 48 blah blah blah Sam's rocket motor.

As you can see, it's nearly identical to the fragment found in Poland. Of course, the whole incident appears to be a tragic accident. So this sympathetic Ukrainian Ukrainian account is saying that they believe it's Ukrainian. Yeah, and it was maybe done on accident. Or was it? Yeah. Do we know that or not?

We don't. But we know that Zelensky is... He's ready to go. Yeah, he's ready to go. And he's going to use it because, look, Zalinski needs... He needs everything he can get. And wants all the money and all the missiles and all the weapons. He wants the United States to go to Russia and kill Russia.

And he also wants UN to back him up. Yeah, Zelensky sees this as like, hey, man, if the U.S. comes and helps us out and goes and attacks Russia and defeats Russia. And maybe we can take a lot of Russia land because the United States maybe won't give a shit about it. I mean... Well, I don't know that. Maybe he is like the loyal guy he says he is and he just wants Ukraine to be Ukraine. I don't know.

But I'm just saying it's very interesting that they had the exact numbers of this missile fragment in Poland that killed two people. And they're saying it came from Ukraine. But do we know it? You know, we got to figure out. Was it accident or purposefully? Well, so here's the thing. So Ukraine is calling this a Russia-promoted conspiracy theory, okay, as far as that it being a Ukrainian missile. Okay.

So the Ukrainian government official, which is at D-M-Y-T-R-O-K-I-E-A, I mean, sorry, K-U-L-E-B-A, they are saying, and this is an official Ukrainian government official, Russia now promotes a conspiracy theory that it was allegedly a missile of Ukrainian air defense that fell on Polish, that fell on the Polish territory, which is not true. No one should buy Russian propaganda or amplify it. messages. The lesson should have been long learned since the downing of MH17, which is the airliner that was gone. So, and then obviously Russia issued its first statement in the wake of the report. And what does that sound? Oh, it's our baked potatoes, babe. Oh, baked potatoes. Well, that's definitely not been our. It's not baked weapons. It's baked potatoes. Anyways. So yeah, so here's the thing. So Ukrainian is

adamantly coming out and saying, this is not Ukraine. This sympathetic account that is an expert in Ukrainian weapons says it is Ukrainian even though they are sympathetic. Yeah, and they're giving like the serial numbers of everything. Yeah. It is very strange because

look, I say this again. And I'm not for either side right now. You know, I just want us to be able to investigate and see where did this come from. And was it on accident or was it on purpose? Well, Russia dismissed reports its missile struck, you know, Polish village, according to Newsweek on Tuesday.

And they're saying this is a provocation amid mounting concerns and further strained tensions between Russia and the West. And, but look, let's just get down to it. So this is what we have. We have missiles or a missile attacked or hit Poland, killed two people. 15 miles out of Ukraine. Yeah, 15 miles from the border, 40.

miles from Leviv. And actually in our interview on Rumble, you guys can go check out our interview with Dark Horse Allies. And he was in Kiev. But he's been to Leviv quite a bit. And but yeah, it's it's very interesting because we can either look at it this way. This is either an accident, right, which Ukraine is even adamantly denying with that, right? They're not even saying, no, they're not even mentioning that it came from them at all. Yeah, they're saying this is Russia, absolutely.

Yeah. And, you know, regardless of why the war started, whatever, like I said, we're sympathetic to the Ukrainian people no matter what because they've been through hell for this. And even if Ukraine or, you know, was corrupt as far as government or the West or whatever, the people of Ukraine absolutely does not deserve it. And but is this an accident and is this Ukraine an accident? that they're adamantly denying and just taking the opportunity to, you know, never let, as they say, never let a good tragedy get a waste. And, you know, it's something we see in politics all the time.

You know, any mass shooting or any shootings that ever happened, especially in the United States, they blame gun control. They blame Republicans. Right. They blame all this stuff. And then, you know, they, it's the best way we can do it. Is this what Ukraine's doing? Or is this an intentional missile attack from Russia? from Russia.

Or no, no, no, yeah, from Russia. Or is it an intentional missile attack from Ukraine to provoke an Article 5 into Russia? It's very interesting. But the interesting thing is... And scary. So these weapons experts that are, the Ukrainian guys that are talking about, you know, they say this is an anti-aircraft or, you know, a defense missile. So, you know, anti-aircraft missiles are...

Which is interesting, it's interesting how... that goes because anti-aircraft missiles for example i don't know if any of you have ever heard of the iron dome in israel is has some of the best weapons defense systems in the world actually i mean as far as penetrating you know there there have been numerous attacks trying to attack israel with missiles and i mean i'm talking about that that iron dome and don't quote me on the exact but you could fire 100 missiles at Israel and 99 of them or 96 of them would not get through. I mean, that is how good their entire craft fire is. That's how good their iron dome system is. Yeah. And go look

it up on the internet. You can see it. You can see this dome. It's like amazing. Yeah. It's just it's like electricity that just boom. Yeah. It just knocks them out. And there are, well, there are some, but they're missiles. I mean, that's what it is. It is large caliber. Some of them are missiles. Some of them are large caliber rounds that shoot down missiles. But either way, they're laser guided or tracked. I mean, it's extremely technological. And the United States is the main one that has funded that system for Israel. Which I'm actually, you know, you would think that if you really wanted to protect Ukraine,

that you would invoke it. Yeah, you would put some kind of, which I do think, I do think Ukraine probably has some of that technology there. I mean, there's a reason that Ukraine has not just been completely obliterated by Russia. Yeah, demolished. I'm sure a lot of this money we're giving them probably has something to do with that. But either way,

what is going to happen with this we don't know? It's one of three things. This is either Ukraine that intentionally hit somewhere in Poland to then blame and possibly invoke Article 5. It is either a Ukrainian

accident, which is unlikely because the reason I was talking about the anti-aircraft fire. Anti-aircraft fire, I mean, if you think about how many, if you look at Iraq War or you look at the Israel Iron Dome and you see how many rounds are going out of this anti-aircraft fire or these anti-aircraft missiles even, they're not large missiles, they're not large rounds. and they go out at hundreds of rounds sometimes or even possibly hundreds of missiles that go out in secession. And 99% of the time, regardless of whether those missiles hit the target in the air

because they are ground to air, surface to air missiles, they 90% of the time do not, they don't come back down to earth and hit something and blow something up. Because if that was the case, you would see Israel and you would see people like cities cities that are using massive amounts of anti-aircraft fire to to fend off attacks they would be blowing themselves up right because these missiles will be coming back down

all of those missiles do not hit all of their targets it's almost like they just said what is that word like they're just gone well they do I think they do eventually blow up they only have a short range right I mean, they, you know, they're, a lot of these missiles are actually made to go a certain amount or certain height, but they're, they're designed to blow up before they start ever coming back down, right? So that's the whole purpose of these. They are self-destructing. They either hit something or within this range or whatever, they implode.

And they do that so that you're not killing yourself when you're shooting hundreds of these, right? And so that's, that's just weird to me about this polling thing. even if it was a Ukrainian accident and it was anti-aircraft fire or anti-aircraft missile, surface-to-air missile that is meant for anti-aircraft. Because it has kind of computer generated stuff. It's got

a system, a lot of these do, and I'm sure that these missiles, if it was the Ukrainians, are probably coming from us. Is like a pretty big way. Like that's a big range. Well, I mean... Do you think? I don't know. Not necessarily for an anti-Iraicraft.

I mean, yeah. It would probably a lot of them would, problem. Now listen, if this is some random anti-aircraft missile from Ukraine or whatever, that's what I really hope it is. That don't really have the capabilities or the technology that, you know, a lot of them do. And what if they went astray or something happened that went wrong? Well, either way, they're either way. Ukraine is completely denying it. They are automatically blaming Russia, which is probably just going to, if it isn't Russia, it's going to piss off them off even more. Because, you know, Russia is trying to get this shit done in a lot of ways without NATO getting

involved. So is NATO going to be the ones that investigate this whole thing? Or how does this work? I'm sure NATO is going to be there and members from the NATO Council and security council are going to go and they're going to investigate and they're going to see where this came from. I would say that if it did come from Ukraine, you'll never hear another word about it. It'll just fade into the mainstream media like a frigging ghost in the night. But if it is, if they can connect it to Russia whatsoever, you'll hear it for weeks. You'll hear it for weeks. It'll be. mainstream. Yeah. I just don't know what the case of this is. But regardless of this, we did want to come on and just talk to you a little bit about, you know, what is Article 5? You know, right now it looks like Article 4 is being invoked, which Poland is using that for further investigation. Now, that does not mean that Article 5 cannot still be triggered, given the fact that depending on the investigations and whatever, if it is in automatically a Russia- that could completely change the game.

But like I said, if it isn't a Russian missile and it is a Ukrainian missile, especially according to this account that has been following and knows everything about all Ukrainian weapons, like an expert in this and not just this account, but others. And this is an account that's on Ukrainian side, pretty much. But they came out first and said, this looks like a tragic accident. So I think they probably went on there and said this before they knew what Ukraine's stance was going to be necessarily or whatever the case may be. But either way. And they can't backtrack it down.

Even though it's kind of weird, you say that. But I think it was a couple hours after that they posted another thing in their thread on their tweet. So they just commented on their own tweet, which is what I read here a minute ago. and it almost sounded like they were trying to backtrack a little bit on what their original post was. Interesting. Because it says although this is blah, blah, blah, blah, they tried to say something, but I don't know. It sounds weird because it sounds like someone or somewhere. They almost jumped the gun before Ukraine had their response of what happened, I guess.

Yeah, and I'm sure Ukraine was like, you know. You dumb, but. Yeah, exactly. So this is going to be interesting to see what happens. Yeah. It's, you know, we're going to definitely follow this for you guys. Yeah. And there's a lot of people tonight saying, you know, you better believe in your God or whatever because this is happening.

And if you believe in anything, you better believe now because this is like the end times, a lot of people say. Yeah, we have some podcasts on that. If you guys go and look at, look up our New World Order podcast, the Rapture podcast or whatever. We talk a little bit about that. We have Breon. We talk back and forth. and we have our views. I have my view, Sherry has Harvey.

Bree is, she knows the Bible, like, probably better than most people. And so it's a really interesting conversation. It's doing well, and I think it's for good reason. And we're definitely going to have Bree back on. Hopefully, Bree's going to have her own podcast soon. For those of you that want to listen to more of the biblical, you know, as far as how the Bible ties into now and these days, that's going to be a podcast you guys should listen to.

And there's not, you know, as far as Bree's concern, there's not much time left. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of people. Yeah, she's got to get out there and get as many people as she can. Well, look, regardless of all that, even if the rapture or whatever you believe doesn't happen, or at least it doesn't happen like, say, in the next 20 years, I mean. Or the next year. Well, I'm just saying in the next 20 years or whatever. We got to start thinking about, though.

And these are things Sherry and I are thinking about. You know, we've been looking at buying either land or beach house. You know, it's funny because what we would love to do is have both. But, you know, it's like I was telling you, like, we love the beach. We absolutely love, like, if we could have a place on the beach, we would do it. And we could have a place on the beach. Yeah, it's like serenity to me. Yeah, it's amazing.

But also, we've got to be smart right now. We really got to be thinking about our future. We have to be thinking about, like, what is sensible, what is the most not really economical, but what is the most survivable atmosphere or area that we can live? Because look, guys, I think one of the things that we have to do

right now in 2022, and I don't see this getting better. But I think one of the things we have to do is we have to start thinking about more of the survivability factor rather than the factor of, oh, well, we just want this because it's cool. We got to start thinking about

how can we be self-reliant? If this past year or two has not taught you guys anything, which it has us, and I think it's taught a lot of you the same. And I also think that you have to start thinking about your money and where you invest it and how you invest it and what it is in. Yeah, because money. Because money, you don't know where money is going to be the next day. Yeah, we're outspending what we have ever thought we could ever outspend. I don't even feel like it. Cash is useless, basically.

It's just, it's a facade right now. It is a, it is a figment of our imagination that cash actually means anything. Although, yes, still in this economy and whatever, but we're starting to see more and more. Cash is not, it's, it's inflated so much and yet it's worth nothing. Yeah. And that's what's crazy. And you go to the grocery store, I didn't even buy cheese sticks because there were $8 for the little string cheese cheese. cheese sticks.

It's not good for you anyway. Probably not good thing. Well, it's a good healthy snack to me. Yeah. But we are going to start talking about and start doing more things as far as we're going to start talking about survivability factors and how we can prepare for the future and all this stuff. We're going to talk about this and it's going to think we all need it.

And actually, I was thinking about this too. You know, one of the things that we are probably going to concentrate more on our members-only website, truthward order.com, or even the Rumble content, is we want to concentrate more on kind of more produced videos rather than a live podcast there as far as, you know, going out with us and exploring land or thinking about how we would do certain things or whatever the case may be. I think we could incorporate that in video. And I think that would be an awesome thing to do.

And it would benefit you guys to check that out as well. So that's one of the things we were thinking about. But we got a bunch of amazing podcasts coming your way. One of the things we're going to start doing with Sherry doesn't know about. I was thinking about this just a minute ago. Oh, God. Now, we do want to start, you know, one of the things with the Joe Rogan episode with the ancient apocalypse, which I really, really enjoy, we want to get this podcast a little bit more back into, you know, not necessarily conspiracies, but like the conspiratorial history side of things. So just things that happen in history that are, you know, we're all dumbfounded by.

or we want to know the answer to, you know, even like the JFK stuff and all those things. How our world started, interdimensional things, the UFO stuff. We really want to get back into a lot of that

and we're going to, we're obviously going to still cover stuff like this. But we want to make sure that we're also investigating things from the past and our history, not just American history, but the world. Well, we have to know about our history

for our future. Yeah, I think... It's very important. Well, I think that, yeah, I absolutely think that our history gives us so many signs to our future. And I think that's one of the things that Graham Hancock, his special ancient apocalypse on Netflix, really kind of tells you more than anything is I think our ancient ancestors.

Maybe even ancestors we didn't even knew existed. We're trying to tell us in so many ways. And I think that if there's anything that we can learn from them, it is just we have to learn something, right? I mean, and that's the problem is history and science has been pigeonholed into one particular thing. Exactly. And nothing else is supposed to ever be the narrative or get out. Because if it does, then whoever had the official narrative that we've all learned for so long is wrong.

And that's the same thing with religion and science. I think that so long people said they're so like black and white. But they're really, they connect together. And we're seeing that more and more every day. as we exist. No, I agree with that. 100%. Well, guys, that's going to do it for us

on this Investigator's podcast episode. And until next time, we love you. Yep, love you guys. Send us a message. Talk to us, and we'll hit you back. Yeah, hope you enjoyed it. Have a good one, guys. I did.

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