Investing Billions - E311: How Continuation Vehicles Quietly Reshaped Private Equity
Episode Date: February 24, 2026Why have continuation vehicles become one of the fastest-growing segments in private markets? David Weisburd speaks with Benjamin Carper about what’s driving record CV volume, how these transaction...s solve structural mismatches in private equity fund lives, and why both LPs and GPs hold mixed views on the strategy. Ben explains how continuation vehicles create liquidity, extend ownership of high-quality assets, and reshape portfolio management across buyout and venture markets.
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So Ben, you help lead the 90-person secondaries team at Jeffries, which is largely focused on the continuation vehicle space today.
Why is there such a focus on continuation vehicles today?
Well, continuation vehicles represent one of the fastest growing and probably most innovative parts of the private markets.
there will be announced in the next week or so north of $110 billion of
contiguation vehicle volume in 2025.
That's a second record year in a row for the market and up quite significantly
from where we were in 2024 at about $75 billion in continuation vehicle volume.
Is there an 80-20 aspect to this $110 billion where there's a few first.
firms driving the majority of that behavior?
It's quite broadly distributed amongst a variety of not just mid-market, large-cap, smaller,
smaller-cap buyout focus firms, but venture capital firms.
Are these $20 million vehicles, $200 million vehicles?
The general market is around a half billion dollars of size for an individual continuation
vehicle with the range between, you know, $100 million to $5 billion.
The companies that are being involved contributed to continuation vehicles are companies that
can be $50 million of EBITDA or $500 million of EBITDA.
There's definitely a strong cohort of mid-market companies that are being targeted by
continuation vehicles, but we're also seeing continuation vehicles for,
you know, pre-IPO, VC darlings as well, the stripes and data bricks and, you know,
anthropics of the world.
And I want to get into, in a little bit, deconstructing what a typical continuation
vehicle deal looks like.
But first, why this trend for continuation vehicles, why has there been such an increase
in volume over the last couple years?
It's a confluence of factors.
that is driving the category forward and really up into the right these last couple of years.
What continuation vehicles do at their core is help sponsors manage portfolio companies that are not
necessarily well timed to the 10-year closed-end private equity fund life cycle,
the five-year hold period that you oftentimes hear private equity firms talk about.
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I think this is a trend here to say.
And one of the reasons is if you look at it from a first principles basis, what was going on before
continuation vehicles in many ways is absurd.
So you have this five-year hold period, which to your point is arbitrary.
Maybe it should be three years.
Maybe it should be 10 years.
I interviewed Sam Zell's longtime partner, Mark Sotter, and he talked about the first year you
buy an asset.
in the last year are problematic.
Last year, you're dressing up the asset to sell.
First year, you're really trying to get a sense for management.
So you kind of have these two dead years, which, why does that matter?
Well, if you're holding it for five years, 40% of your time is spent either trying to get up to speed on an opportunity or trying to dress up an opportunity.
But perhaps most importantly, what's a little bit absurd about that is that the going practice is to,
build these assets, often cases actually turn them around, replace management, do all these
painful things. And then when you're done within five years, sell it to your competitor.
And that just has been the established practice versus a CV allows you to keep your winners
and to continue compounding those winning assets with this asymmetric information where
GPs are able to know what's exactly the company that they're buying.
That's exactly why the market has accelerated as it has, and the solution the continuation
vehicle market is looking to provide.
There's obviously a lot of friction that happens when a company is sold and a board changes
over and a management team is reintroduced to, or introduced, rather, to new owners potentially
replace.
You know, there are a lot of private equity owned business.
that have established growth plans and a playbook that's really working, be it organic or
inorganic trajectories. And continuation vehicles just allow sponsors to have more time and
capital so to prosecute those already working strategies.
Last time we chatted, you were very frank with me and told me some LPs like continuation vehicles,
some dislike it. Most actually hold both opinions at once that have this cognitive dissonance.
Why do LPs like continuation vehicles and at the same time don't like those same vehicles?
Continuation vehicles are a pretty steady source of liquidity and not just liquidity, but cash liquidity for LPs.
So about a little bit shy of 20% of all private equity distributions in 2025 are happening via continuation vehicle transactions.
So check one for LPs who haven't seen a lot of liquidity.
They also allow LPs to compound winners in their portfolio and keep that capital invested over time
versus see one sponsor to sell a company to another sponsor and maybe in their exact same roster of managers.
And quite often, LPs are committing capital to secondary funds and continuation vehicle focus.
funds because they see them as a as a gateway to getting access to really high
quality companies featuring superior transaction dynamics and alignment dynamics
with with both sponsors who are supporting the the continuation vehicles as
well as management teams at the portfolio companies underneath of them now
the there is some cognitive cognitive dissonance to your point because
continuation vehicles have created
a portfolio management consideration and motion, frankly, that didn't exist for many LPs 10 years ago.
You know, if you were an LPE with 100 different line items in your primary fund roster 10 years ago,
then you may see one continuation vehicle election in your entire roster of managers.
Going back to the stat that I shared that continuation vehicles are representing 15.
to 20% of all private equity exits, you're now looking at, you know, a dozen plus LP elections in
your in your portfolio.
In many ways, having LPs play a direct investing role.
A lot of LPs are not set up to do direct deals.
Now they essentially are re-underating it on a direct basis.
It's a different skill set almost.
Yeah.
No, that's right.
I think that's where a lot of the consternation comes from for LPs is how do they handle
that new responsibility in their portfolios.
LPs also, and I think rightfully so, have skepticism to say the least, about these marks
in these CV transactions.
Abu Dhabi Investment Corporation went so much as to sue one of their managers because of that mark.
How do LPs know that this is the right pricing?
What's their mechanism for ascertaining the true value of asset?
There are a few different ways that these continuation vehicles can be priced.
The most common mechanism is for a sponsor to hire an advisor to run an auction process
really focused on continuation vehicle investors that would bid for the asset and submit
term sheets for a continuation vehicle opportunity. These are a host of both traditional secondary
investors as well as a variety of new entrants. That historically we're not we're not focused
at all on continuation vehicle investments and are now, you know, raising dedicated strategies
focused on the segment. So that's one of the ways that these transactions are priced is via this
this M&A like auction process, but instead of targeting financial sponsors and
strategics, you're really focused on these continuation vehicle investors.
The other way is as part of a equity recapitalization of a business that is led by another
financial sponsor.
The asset was worth a billion dollars at entry point.
Let's say now another buyout firm wants to come in at a $5 billion valuation, but the GPs
from that fund that invests that a billion dollars,
want essentially co-investor co-manage with that $5 billion.
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, that's right.
So at the larger sizing end of the spectrum,
the $5 to $10 to $15 to $20 billion to have companies
that are private equity owned,
quite frequently you'll see two,
three different private equity firms,
as well as large institutional investors,
become direct owners of those companies.
So company went from a billion dollars to $5 billion owned by the same sponsor.
Now that sponsor has a lot of equity to be parted with as it's thinking about an exit.
It may bring in another sponsor for a billion dollars at that $5 billion valuation,
leaving quite a lot of unrealized value that they continue to hold.
The continuation vehicle in that instance could be used to monetize that,
residual stub that they weren't able to get liquidity on at that $5 billion valuation.
That's maybe about a quarter of the continuation vehicle market.
Again, the vast majority of these transactions are being priced by
by auctions targeting CV investors.
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What are those best practices that you like to see in a deal that aligns everybody in a good opportunity for a continuation vehicle investment?
Yeah, continuation vehicles are really predicated on a rollover option for LPs, a flexible rollover option for LPs.
This is a great option for LPs to either take liquidity or to continue to compound a position that already exists and is performing quite nicely.
And LPs need to feel like it's truly an option for them to be able to do exactly just that.
So that rollover option is a particularly important leg of the stool for these transactions, full stop.
Do you have LPs that are rolling some and taking some chips off the table?
Or are these?
Yeah.
That's kind of the best practice.
Typically, we see LPs either take full liquidity or roll over their entire position in a CB.
But you'll have a host of LPs that go in either direction.
And you do have a bunch of LPs that also say, gosh, I'd love to take my cost basis back,
but I can probably roll the rest.
What are you looking for as a banker on these deals?
what's the most attractive type of deal and why?
I'll answer that question two different ways,
one of which being the general profile of the company that is in consideration.
There's a really broad level of interest from continuation
vehicle investors for mid-market companies that,
and to call it $25 to $250 million of,
of EBITDA zip code that have reoccurring revenues, predictable future cash flows,
inorganic and organic growth vectors, be it a Bolton MNA strategy or a cross-selling strategy
where they can build market share or build products to be sold to their existing customers.
Those are the profiles of companies that we really, really love to bring to market.
and absolutely resonate with continuation vehicle investors.
In terms of general transaction, we obviously prefer to work with sponsors that are willing to eat their own cooking and roll the vast majority of their crystallized interests into the continuation vehicle.
That sign of conviction and alignment is one of the reasons that the continuation vehicle market exists, frankly, and operates as.
as seamlessly as it does.
In that same vein, if you're advising LPs, kind of three check the box,
preliminary questions on whether they should double click on a CV in their own portfolio or
otherwise, what are those like three questions you should ask?
How did you get here?
Is a great gating initial question for LPs.
Background of the investment, how did it perform?
you know, what were the specific layers of growth that had benefited from, you know,
how you thought about monetization up until this point?
What strategic alternatives did you consider for the company before deciding that you
wanted to attempt a continuation vehicle transaction?
You know, the continuation vehicle market is in a dustbin for companies that cannot be sold.
Is the growth trajectory of the business that has been executed so far, does that have legs to continue over another five-year holding period as illustrated?
How did the company reach to scale where M&A is no longer adding to the bottom line or the wallet share for customers cannot be further maximized?
So figuring out whether or not there's a disconnect between the last five years.
the future five years is another important element.
Said another way, is this an asset that essentially has run its course?
You have the GPs that are rolling their equity.
You have the legacy LPs in that fund that oftentimes roll.
For the rest of the continuation vehicle, who's gobbling up these opportunities today,
2026?
The vast majority of the capital going into the CVs right now represent institutional investors
who obviously represent LPs, traditional limited partners, investing in private equity, private credit, real assets.
And there's a host of established large players in that category between Collar Capital, Alpinvest, Harper Vest, Newberger Berman.
And there are also a host, as I referenced a little bit a little while ago, a host of
of new entrants who are really focused on single asset continuation vehicles.
And some of those are particularly focused on different sectors, such as software and tech-enabled
services, businesses.
And some of them are profiling more like large-cap buyout funds that see continuation
vehicles as an extension of established power rallies.
There's also a host of, I would say, the
largest global capital allocators that are profiling as LPs kind of powering the
private equity ecosystem. So the large U.S. pensions, the Canadian pensions, the Mabel A,
the Middle Eastern and East Asian sovereigns that you're seeing as frequent LPs and direct investors
and companies, those groups are responsible for a lot of the demand for continuation.
It kind of solves their problems of how do we deploy a lot of capital per transaction and not be adversely selected because you have the GPs underwriting, you have existing LPs rolling, but yet these deals are enormous.
1,000 percent. For those LPs that are very keen on co-investment opportunities with their sponsor partners, continuation vehicles are just another way to go about exactly that and buy by companies really in partnership with their existing relationships.
And so interesting that Jeffries has this within the secondaries group.
Not everybody has it that way, but it also solves kind of this J-curve issue.
And there's a big trend in the alternatives world in general.
People want to see non-blind pool opportunities.
People don't want to be in these long firms, long-term funds, they want to invest in opportunities
that have maybe a three-to-seven-year window versus a 10 plus two, three-year window as well.
So it also fits into this interesting trend.
of direct opportunities, non-blind pool opportunities, shorter whole times, reduce
j-care.
You could make the argument that continuation vehicles are, are in bringing assets closer
and funded, identifiable opportunities closer to LPs versus the more nebulous blind pool fund
opportunities from 10 or 20 years ago.
I'm going to put you on the spot with kind of on the buyout side, there's a lot of top-down research, a lot of underwriting.
You mentioned this operational plan, but you also work on venture.
Are these opportunities being done in the open AIs, anthropics, stripe of the world as well?
And if so, how do those deals differ from a traditional buyout?
The answer is yes, they are being done.
in that cohort of pre-IPO, pre-IPO name.
And the rationale for venture capital and growth managers,
considering a continuation vehicle is usually a bit distinct
from a buyout sponsor thinking about a single asset,
continuation vehicle.
And I say that because for a venture capital manager
that has been managing an older fund for the last five years.
You know, the IPO window has just not been available the same way it has.
And over the last five years up until recently, as it was, you know, taking another step back five years, five years before that.
So venture capital managers are really thinking about this as a simple lever to pull to create cash distributions for a,
portfolio in an older vintage fund, frankly. And those portfolios are now frequently seeing
large exposures to these names that have remained private for a much longer period of time.
And they're there because they're not public equity positions yet. So the continuation vehicle
in that instance is really solving for enhancing DPI, creating distributions for
for that manager. Is this also a way for LPs and GPs to date each other on a deal versus a fund?
Very expensive date, $500 million. But it's in least it's not a, I guess a blind date would be the
equivalent where you're actually around an asset. Have you seen that and do those turn into fund commitments
and fund relationships both on the GPLLP side? Or is it strictly we like this asset and, you know,
we'll part ways after this asset? Certainly resonance with that concept in the same way,
that LPs consider co-investment opportunities as they're considering, you know, new manager
relationships. Because continuation vehicles, unlike co-investments, it really gives you a window
into how the sponsor has thought about growing a business and originating that original investment
and partnering with management and what has worked for them in that instance and how they think
about the forward prospects of the business. So we frequently see managers end up.
building these longer-term LP relationships by bringing in, by considering continuation vehicles
rather than, you know.
It's that old joke.
The best way to diligence of manager is to be an investor.
100%.
I'm not going to ask you to tell me what you did with the money, but what's the biggest deal
you've done today?
I've had the privilege to work on several of the first billion-dollar-plus continuation vehicles
when the market was making that transition from a solution to a problem to a portfolio management
tool and a really nice thing to have. And there have been quite a few billion dollar
continuation vehicles since then.
Well, it's great to hear dinner will be on you next time. But in all seriousness, thanks for creating
this masterclass on continuation vehicles. Looking forward to continuing us live.
Yeah. Thank you. Really appreciate you having me. And obviously,
the double click on the category. I'm sure you'll hear a lot more about continuation vehicles over
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