Investor's Edge with Gary Kaltbaum - Froth melting [10.22.2025]
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All right, where do I want to start?
Oh, it's very simple.
bear with me are you ready okay trying to decide where I'm going to start okay let's do this one
the poster child you know we haven't mentioned really symbols or anything in these
no sales companies because you know we want you to be careful I'm just going to name one
symbol today.
O-K-L-O.
This is a
it's described as
designs and deploys
advanced fission
power plants to provide clean,
reliable and affordable energy.
I guess it's nuclear and all that crap.
And the stock has had a
big run
to the point at the recent
highs
was trading at
28 billion market
cap with no sales. And we have simply said to you, just letting you know when all is said and done,
and we really don't know when all is said and done, just know when the bloom is off the rose,
when the musical chairs, the music stops and there's no chairs. Companies, if nothing,
changes that have no sales, that continue to have no sales, if we enter some sort of a bearish
phase for this froth in speculation, these things will be murdered. Now, we don't know if we've hit
the final high, the final top. All I can tell you, O KLO, that has had a great move, and I'm
jealous. I'm jealous of all the vertical moves, but I'm not buying zero sales companies. Just let you
in the last six days has gone from 194 to 118.
194 to 118, you can add that percentage up.
And I'm not going to mention any other symbols, if you don't mind.
But let me continue to make our point.
Remember we told you there's a nuclear stock that has actually been trading
since the year 2000, 25 years publicly trading, and still no sales.
Well, they rallied that up.
It's gone from 31 to 21 in the last four days.
You can add up that.
How about Bitcoin mining?
57 to 38 in the last five days.
Just not naming names.
How about a quantum stock?
46 to 27 in the last six days.
How about a...
Another quantum stock.
58 to 36 in the last six days.
By the way, this is the one. I'm not naming the symbol.
This is the one that with the CEO said,
and I'm not making this up.
We're not going to scale for years.
You know what scale means.
Sales.
Let me continue.
How about another nuclear?
57 to 34.
in five days.
Rare earth.
And we're not making this up.
81 to 31 in six days.
No, we're not making that up.
81 to 31 in six days.
How about another rare earth?
11 quarter to five, six days.
Here is
by the way, a nuclear stock that has sales and actually makes money.
$464 to $312 in five days.
Quantum, 62 to 35 in five days.
Nuclear, 61 to 38 in five days.
How about a...
Another rare earth.
100 to 70 in five days was 66 earlier today.
I must admit that.
How about another quantum stock?
This is not bad.
18 to 13 and a half in five days.
How about space?
How about 103 to 68 in five days?
You catch in the drift?
How about another rare earth stock?
44 to 24 in six days.
Have you noticed we are highlighting stocks that have gone down 40 to 60 percent in five to six days?
Have you noticed that?
Oh, and by the way, I can probably go through about 50 others.
50 others.
The froth and speculation, you know what these all have?
in common, either no sales or very little in sales. Here's one, 32 to 14. Excuse me, 32 to 15.
Rare Earth. That's been the latest. The rare earth. You think I'm done? How about another
Bitcoin miner that's gone from 74 to 51 in five days? Now, albeit, notice the big word,
albeit that's actually a word
some of these have had big runs
and we're jealous
but as we have told
you when the music
stops they're going to
get murdered and I don't know
if this is the final blow
or not
maybe they go back up
oh here's another one
19 to 13
I don't know
maybe they have another run
I don't know
maybe they keep getting
blasted tomorrow. I don't know. It's just your handsome and buffed host living by our own
rules based on the study of bull and bear markets, especially bear markets, and that is
companies with no sales when things turn the wrong way look out below. And for whatever reason,
the last six days was a pretty good unwinding.
For whatever reason, the last six days in unwinding.
And let me repeat again, I have no clue whether it stops tomorrow and they go back up.
It keeps going lower.
Some drop 90%, which by the way, when all is said,
and done, some of these will be dropping 90% plus. We just hope that you did not get caught up
because unfortunately, there was Wall Street analysts putting out by recommendations on some of
these things after they tripled and quadrupled and had no sales only because they were moving
up. Up next, we'll put a bow tie on that. And much more today.
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By the way, something of note.
And we're just going to tell you about a report.
I'm not reporting it.
The Financial Times is reporting it.
Part of our worry with these no-sale,
companies and a lot of froth and speculation is the announcements of how great things are and this,
that, and the other thing.
And we have warned you that these companies, all these companies have what is known as an investment.
You know what they do?
They hire people that do investor relations.
and their job is to get the word out and get announcements out.
And remember what we said to you, we're worried about all these AI announcements.
Well, I'm going to mention this O KLO, O'KLO.
There's been so many announcements, joint agreements to develop this, that, and the other thing.
And by the way, we're not reporting this.
We're reporting what the Financial Times is reporting.
They're reporting that Oaklo does not have any binding contracts to supply power.
Even though there have been all this talk about contracts.
And again, we don't know.
I'm covering my butt.
We don't know.
We're just letting you know what the financial times are saying.
And I'm not making this up.
And I'm not going to mention who.
on October 9th, the stock was 140 some odd dollars.
This stock has gone from 17 to 140 since April,
and somebody put a buy recommendation on it with no sales.
Sickening to me.
You know what that is?
That is pressure being put on the analyst.
Hey, why don't you have a buy recommendation on this stock is high?
Okay, let's put a buy recommendation on it.
Here's one, September 29th, an overweight on this Oaklow.
Nauseating.
Here's one with a neutral rating.
I guess that's okay.
That means really don't want to own.
On Wall Street Parliance, neutral is not buy, I guess.
We just wanted to start the show with you to just let you know.
We don't know what the next move is.
We just know we've been warning you for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks.
And we have a bunch of 40 to 60% drops.
And we're not trying to say we're geniuses because we didn't have them on the way up.
Because I don't have the grapefruits to own something on a Tuesday night and Wednesday morning.
You know what we've said to you about biotechs with no sales.
You wake up the next morning and the placebo does better than the drug in phase two trials and the stocks down 70%.
well let me finish this off again to be repetitive i don't know about tomorrow i don't know if they
bounce them i don't know if they continue we're just letting you know in the last six days they took
the bloom off the rose and 40 to 60 percent drops we hope you aren't in them and we know
some of you may be in them because they've been touted like there's no tomorrow nuclear is the next
great thing quantum is the next great thing
Robotaxies the next great thing.
Rare earth because of China, the next great thing.
And all I know is all these companies that are trading, not all, most have no sales.
They're specs.
And even the one I mentioned to you that has good sales in the nuclear has gone from 464 to
313 in the last five days.
And that's what is known as, you know, it's no longer bullish event.
So we'll keep you informed.
I repeat again, I have no clue what they do with it tomorrow.
Also, they've been kicking the teeth of some of the AI stuff now.
I can tell you that, you know, this GEV-E-V-G-E-V-G-E-V.
They opened it up at 609.
I will tell you to hit a low of 532.
closed at 576. Wild swing today on earnings, but it's just very tough sledding right now.
They went after those over the last week or two. They went after today the construction type names
that supposedly are going to power and grow and do this and that for these data centers.
So just a little bit, Icky, I will tell you that Dow was down 330 and the NASDAQ was down 2.30.
team, but I got to tell you that actually finished well.
NASDAQ was down over 400, and they brought things back towards the close.
And we're in the midst of earnings season now, a ton of earnings to come out.
I have no clue what earnings is going to do.
I can tell you that overnight, Hilton was up nicely, intuitive surgical up nicely, but
GEV was up big and finished down, and VRT was up big and finished down, and Capital One was
much better and finished only up three.
And I guess we have Tesla after the close, IBM after the close.
Who the hell know what's next?
Got a few thousand names.
And as we tell you, what we do is wake up early, finish late and go through them and see where the reactions are and what they say and all that fun stuff.
And speaking of reactions, Netflix today was down $125,
dollars, breaking near-term support going back about six months, which was around 1140,
1150, closed at 1116.
Volume was four times average.
They missed estimates.
They said this, that, this, that, this that.
Brazil, this, tax that.
Don't care.
Bad action, institutions get now.
Don't know why they made that decision.
I only care about the decisions that's made.
just letting you know on Netflix.
And that's one of the big names.
It's number 10 in the NASDAQ 100.
It's number 18, the S&P.
So not the biggest the deal.
You don't want to see a number one, two or three down 10% on their earnings.
And of course, everybody's going to be reporting in the next two to three weeks.
That stood out.
And it's just a mushy day.
But definitively off the lows, I got to tell you, two o'clock,
I was like, holy crap.
But definitively off the lows, we'll take it.
The big indices, they had a rough day, but they remain with that trend above the 50-day moving average with some warts as of recent.
You know, with the president in tariffs and China and tariffs, and he mentioned something today.
Tariffs.
Who the heck knows?
I don't know what's next for him.
God bless him. I hope he does great things.
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Uh, hey, by the way, they really got us.
you know I turned 65 recently
do you know this is not
an exaggeration
I've gotten a hundred pieces of mail
from
Medicare insurance and all that
100
techs
maybe 25 to 50
hey join the
umana Medicare plan
the United Health
do they just have
they just have us
they all know I turned 65.
I didn't know they were allowed to have that.
I guess they got you, don't you?
Don't they?
They really do.
They got you good.
Which one did I get today?
Oh, I got the Eumano one today in the mail.
Oh, and don't start with how many brokers have tried to get in touch with me.
Oh, man.
I didn't realize brokers do that.
You know, I use my good buddy from.
high school, I didn't realize that that's a business. And it's a big business. They gotcha.
By the way, the only one I see in the aftermarket right now, IBM's down $10 in the aftermarket
from 288 to 278. But was up six today. So it's really only down four on the day. And of course,
it's trading like a pinball machine so anything's possible during the aftermarket. By the way,
so I get this in the mail. I don't know if you ever gotten this.
I just got an offer from a bank. I'm not going to mention who. It's a regional.
If I open up a checking account with $2,000 in it and keep it for 90 days, and then I could shut it afterwards, they'll give me $450.50. Really?
And then if I opened a traditional savings account with a deposit of $3,000 and maintain it just for 90 days, another $250.
They'll give me $700 just to open a checking.
I just have to take $5 grand of my money and open a checking and savings account.
They're going to give me $750 for 90 days.
on five grand, if I spread that over a year, that's like 13%, but it's for one quarter.
It's like 52% over a year.
Have you ever got, I don't think I've ever got that.
I don't know if I'm going to do it or not, but I just may, just to see if it works.
And I look at the bottom, you know, they do the little disclaimer at the bottom that Superman couldn't read because the letters are so small.
I read it, it looks like it's for real.
Just need to complete all the above requirements for the checking account.
You just need to keep it for 90 days.
I can shut that sucker down after 90 days.
How does that benefit the bank?
Oh, I know.
They're hoping once you open the account,
you're going to do more business with them,
and maybe you'll do a mortgage,
and maybe you'll get a credit card from them.
But I wouldn't do that.
I would just take the money.
$750.
That's some...
A lot of dog food for Winston.
And Winston gets special dog food.
Anyway, just letting you know.
I'm not going to name the bank.
IBM now down $14 in the aftermarket.
I don't see really anything else.
I know we're waiting for Tesla and all that and some other crap.
IBM is in the Dow and all that.
And, you know, we got a lot of noise today.
The Treasury Secretary says all options are on the table with China.
They're meeting with the President of China is still on schedule,
even though I think three times today, President Trump said,
we're going to have a meeting or maybe not, or we're going to have a meeting or maybe not.
Yay.
What can I tell you?
Ah, Tesla misses by, wow, six cents.
Gross margins are down.
The stock is only down.
Interesting.
Three or four bucks in the aftermarket.
Do you know why?
The cyber cab is on track for production.
So let me be clear.
The Tesla numbers are not good.
But all the talk of the cyber this and cyber that and robots.
And for all I know, Elon Musk is not a doofus, is he?
Las Vegas Sands is up two or three bucks in the aftermarket.
Not a bad move.
And by the way, the numbers on Tesla.
50 cents, they expecting 56.
That was versus a 72.
So earnings were down 72 to 50%.
Ew.
Only down four bucks.
That's a win.
That's a big win.
Only down four.
And it'll probably be up by tomorrow.
Gold.
When you have a chance tonight, go look at GLD and you'll notice if you have a 21 day moving average on your chart like I do.
The 21 day today was 368.49. It went down to 368.93 within 44 cents and bounced pretty well and finished up on the day.
so maybe
maybe
gold put a
line in the sand after
just two days and remember it was down
like 26 bucks yesterday
and gold miners went
green today
again as I think I said yesterday
I don't think the bull market's over
but it can have some
price and time in here
which means backing and filling and backing and filling
and backing and filling
we'll see
Maybe it just goes right back up.
Gold.
Bitcoin, call me surprised, was weak today.
You gapped up on Monday after a bad drop, like six days in a row.
Yesterday was down in reverse, and I'm thinking, all right, we're cool.
Gap right back down today.
If the I-B-I-T or the GBTC breaks the low of Friday,
we'll be talking about something more icky for the crypto.
Just letting you know.
And yes, you can continue to thank me on Micro Strategy
as it hit another relative low today down another $21.
Hit a high of 457 in July.
It's 280 today.
You may thank me.
And Coinbase, that's also very weak too.
So, a lot of jello moving on the plate today.
That's all I can tell you.
Wicked.
Oils were up today because oil prices bounced two bucks today.
Never thrilled with that, but oil prices.
The USO, which is the spot price ETF, went from 78 to 67 in three weeks.
You're going to get a bounce.
was up 3.5% today.
We just don't want oil uptrends.
We like downtrends and bounces.
We don't want uptrends in oil.
That is the cost of energy.
And also, by the way, thousands of products are made with petroleum.
The good news is oil prices have been stable to lower.
for like three years, for three years.
And that's what we really want to see.
Anything else stick out?
Yeah, just growth stocks were not very good today.
Smashed and mashed.
Carvanna, down for 29 bucks today.
I guess they're always being accused of chicanery on the account.
counting front. I have no clue. All I can tell you, it's had a big run off the lows of 22 after the bare market.
A short seller had comments today. Jim Chanos, who I actually liked the guy, one of the people I listened to, was discussing it. I don't know.
By the way, Carvanna is that thing where a bunch of cars are in a, if you go on the highway and you see it on the right side, there's a bunch of cars in a cylinder.
I guess that's Carvana.
I've never done business with them, so I don't know what to tell you.
Anyway, rough day, and Carvana stock's been in a nice little bearish phase, ladies and gentlemen,
and we'll keep you informed.
We're always interested when some smart people worry about what companies have to say along their accounting.
Up next, what the heck else happened in the market today?
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You know, I'm thinking I may just take this bank up on this, get $750 and give it to the
Boys and Girls Clubs of Central Florida.
By the way, I'm always skeptical of these things, but I read it up and down.
Give them five grand for 90 days and they're going to hand me $750 into the account.
Cool.
updates
IBM down 12 bucks in the aftermarket to 275 Tesla
down 6 bucks
on those crappy numbers
I'll give it that
Lamb Research reported
I got that up four bucks
boy that stock's been acting pretty damn good
the semiconductor equipment stocks
yeah that was actually down four bucks today
and is getting it all back.
Let's see if SAP reported, up, down $7.
SAP, an important German software company.
And when we say $7, it's a $270 stock.
Las Vegas Sands closed at 50.5.
I got it 53 and a half.
Ooh, United Rentals.
My second favorite, economically sensitive name to watch,
and it's had a good run.
on crappy numbers.
Hmm, I'm not making this up.
They missed by 52 cents closed at 991.
I'm showing a bid of 901.
Down $90?
That's the bid.
Well, I'm showing the offer $20 higher.
Well, let's just say the offer,
it still would be down $70 in the aftermarket.
Happy days.
Wow.
Yikes.
United Rentals.
What else?
I'm not going to bother with D.C. today.
The government's still shut.
They're going back and forth.
I guess the left is all pissed off that Trump is doing something at the White House,
a knock tearing down a wall, putting up a ballroom, whatever, whatever.
And the greatest influence peddler of all time, Hillary Clinton comes out and blasts him.
Do you know how many times president?
have done things at the White House throughout our history, a lot.
So all of a sudden, here we go, Trump's the Antichrist again
because he's doing some things at the White House,
which, by the way, he's allowed to do.
I just love politics.
Aren't they just wonderful?
Speaking of politics, so I have in front of me somebody's student loan.
And I'm thinking to myself, oh, and by the,
way, President Trump, the administration is allowing student loans again, but grandfathered in
student loan forgiveness. I guess they realize the young vote's going to matter next November,
because I think they could have done something about it. You know what I was just thinking to
myself? Our government's really not fair to us. Why is it some people get their student loans
relieved and others don't. Now, guess what? I think police and firemen and fire women and police
women, I think those student loan should be relieved. Public service. I'm good with military, hell
yeah. But, you know, absent that, why does one person get their student loan relieved and the next
person doesn't? I think that's BS. The picking and choosing a people. That's what Biden did.
oh you're that group okay we're going to relieve you you're that group go screw you catch my drift
isn't it supposed to be fair and equitable as they say but fair and equitable to them is only fair
and equitable what matters to them that's the shame that's the shame anyway and i'm not going
to mention who student loan this is just somebody i know uh they owe still 24000 paying
350 a month, and is interest, and for a while because of COVID, they stopped the payments
and didn't charge your interest.
I'm just looking at it.
Yeah.
All right.
Anyway, welcome to your government deciding whether they like you or not.
If I ran the country, that would not be happening.
It should be fair, don't you think?
All right.
So, wicked day, wacky day, off the lows day, but definitely some deterioration day, into earning season, where, hey, Lamb Research up, Tesla down, IBM, really down, United Rentals, getting smoked.
And only two or three thousand more in the next three weeks. Next week will be Amazon, Apple, Google.
I don't know why they changed their name to alphabet
and we'll just take them one by one and
fingers crossed we get good reactions out of them
gold as we said held some vital support
go check it out gold miners reversed also
but I'm quite agnostic in the near term
oils bouncing but oil stocks
ain't doing anything for me certainly not an uptrend
the main thing for you today was
what we did at the beginning, man, the froth, the speculation, and one of our main themes coming to fruition,
and we hope you were not caught into it, and we say that no, and we don't know what's next.
We know what the ultimate outcome is.
We don't know if they bounce them or keep going.
All we can tell you is we listed a bunch for you down 30, 40, 50, a couple of 60,
percent in five to six days. And we warned you in front of this, not knowing when they would do it,
but that they would do it. I've never understood. And again, there's one that's been public for 25
years with no sales. I'm in the wrong business, by the way. Somebody got to explain that to me.
You all have a great evening. Drive carefully. When you get home, do like we do. Like we do.
do quite simple. Make sure you hug your family. Make sure you hug your children. They will feel
better. You will feel better. I promise they will be well. Always appreciate you being here.
Good night. This has been Investors Edge with Gary Cult Bomb on BizTalk. To listen to past episodes
or to get in contact with Gary, go to GaryK.com. That's GaryK.com.
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