Investor's Edge with Gary Kaltbaum - MARKETS CLOSED Dec 25, 2023 [Holiday Episode]
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And welcome once again to Investors Edge.
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Hey, thanks for being with us today.
Glad you are here, ladies and gentlemen.
Always happy that you are listening.
You know, we've been getting a lot of emails from people.
Gary, you're playing the same holiday shows
you're playing the same shows when you happen to be maybe traveling
that you've been playing for a couple of years
can you do us some justice
and put together some other shows
when you are traveling
or when it's a holiday
well
I've listened to you
I have heard you
and today is one of those
shows. We have put together topics that we think are quite topical at this moment in time.
We're not putting a date on today's show, but you'll get the gist.
Today on the show, we're going to be covering central banks.
And why they are so much more important now than they have been in the past.
then we'll be talking bubbles and what they look like, how they feel, why they occur, and how they end.
We're going to talk about earnings and the importance of gaps when companies report earnings, gaps both up and down.
Other things we'll be discussing today in the markets, sectors, cousin stocks.
What's a cousin stock?
We'll explain.
And a little bit on relative strength, because ladies and gentlemen, we think there are just too many definitions out there on what relative strength is in the markets.
we will strip away all the myths and explain.
So again, we thank you for being here on this day.
It's either a holiday or we are out.
And where do I want to start today?
And it's something we've talked about a lot.
We never really used to have to talk about it.
Many years ago, central banks, their job was simplistic.
Meet every month and not do much.
Seriously. Many years ago, there were no central bank people talking in between meetings. It was frowned upon. And then came the mid-90s. For some reason, they decided they needed to be famous. They needed to be out there. All well and good, but something else happened.
See, back in the late 90s, there was a gentleman by the name of Alan Greenspan,
who believed in easy money policies, and at that time, all it meant was lowering interest rates
and keeping them down, but not to 0%.
I still remember when being easy was when they would take the Fed funds rate down from 4% to 3.5%.
over a six-month period
and that was real easy
and then came Bernanke
and we watched
how we went easy
and easier
and in that time
a bubble was created
one of the biggest bubbles in history
that being the housing bubble
and Mr. Bernanke
didn't know it was coming
didn't have an idea it was coming
didn't see
it coming, when it came, did not know it was here, and not until everything blew up, did he
acknowledge it? And what did he do? He did something we have not seen before. He immediately
ramped down interest rates down to 0%. Zero percent. Zero percent. Now, these interest rates are
important. Why? Because loans are based on it. Debt is based on it. And asset prices also work off of them.
You ever heard the line, don't fight the Fed. When the Fed is easing, markets usually do better.
But what happens when the Fed goes down to zero percent? Well, you saw what happened. Markets bottomed and started rallying.
but something else then happened
something we never even dreamed of
I certainly never dreamed of it
Ben Bernanke decided
and they would not use the terminology
but we did
and that is they started printing money
now do they actually print money
no they press buttons and create money
and they took that money
that was created out of thin air
and bought up
our corporate excuse me our government bonds
and the goal in mind was to get interest rates as far down as possible,
not only on the short end, but on the long end.
The thought process being,
if interest rates come down, the cost of capital to do everything and be everything,
come down, and that would spur on economic growth.
But there's repercussions.
A, savers get zero.
Who gets the difference?
The banks.
Fair?
Well, we'll let you decide if that's fair.
The other part of the equation is it kind of screws up the markets.
You know, markets are supposed to be between buyers and sellers based on fear and greed, desperation or inspiration, strength versus weakness.
And they interfered.
No longer was there a two-way trade.
They bought up everything in sight.
and thus interest rates came way down.
And fast forward into the 2014
to where the Fed had printed
$4.5 trillion.
Four and a half trillion.
Not many can put their hands around that type of number.
And that's on top of 0% interest rates.
And markets reacted and reacted well.
but along the way
every time the Fed
stopped printing money
the markets corrected
and every time the markets corrected
the Fed did something new
you remember
QE1
QE2 Operation
Twist I'm still not sure what that was
QE3
the mother of all printing of money
85 billion dollars a month
but what happened was they started to
a lot of credibility and recognize we got to change a little bit so they came off their
printing of money slowly but surely and markets started to hang in there until markets started
to get in trouble and what did they do they found some friends Japan Europe China and in a
coordinated effort in late 2014 Japan announced a trillion in change Europe announced
the trillion in change, and then China, the supposed miracle of Asia,
realized that they were heading south.
They started easing big time, and guess what happened to their markets?
They soared.
They copied Ben Bernanke, since markets soared here.
They now soar over there,
to the point where it doesn't matter what country it is.
the communist paradise of Venezuela in early 2015 saw their stock market soaring even though inflation is 60, 70% there.
Thus, the big, humongous central bank intervention.
But the issue is, what is it created?
We know easy money was in part created in 1999, which led to 2000 to 2003.
We know in big part, easy money led to 2007, 2008.
And now we have, I wouldn't even call it the mother of all easy money.
I would call it the universe of all easy money.
Things we couldn't fathom around the globe, zero percent interest rates,
five trillion dollars of negative interest rates, and $14 trillion of printing money,
and still going strong.
So what are the repercussions? What are the ultimate repercussions? Are there repercussions? We'll head right into that up next.
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So we started off talking central banks and just realize when we save $14 trillion of money printed,
that's going into the asset prices.
It bubbles things up.
The worry is what are the ultimate repercussions?
Because the real definitions of bubbles or the causes of bubbles are easy monetary policy combined with asset prices going up and then at a certain point in time greed and the desperation of not being in overtakes things.
Back in 99, it was in the Internet and tech space and some big, big cap things.
I still remember Walmart, GE, and a few other side.
60 times earnings even though they were growing at 10, 15% at the time.
And we all know what happened.
And then we all know what happened in 07 where in housing, true story, people would actually
line up in a tent two days in advance for a supposed condo that was going to be built in
Miami to plunk down a deposit and then put it up for sale as soon as they signed the document
and within a week would sell it and make 25 or 50 grand it worked for a while but of course
once price and valuation get too stretched eventually things give things cave and we all know
what happened at that point so easy money met greed and desperation
And now we get to the point where we've seen markets, no bare markets for many years,
no corrections for many a moon.
And we mean 10% and stay down for a while.
Have none of it.
Why?
Because every correction is met by central bank talk, central bank teasing, or central bank intervention.
which calls into question, are we in bubbles?
Well, we've already known from the past that valuation will eventually matter.
The question is, in the biotech space, why didn't it matter when biotex for two to three years come public
and soar to valuations anywhere from $200 million to $8 billion,
and all the companies have one thing in common.
They didn't even have sales.
Some of the companies were just development stage,
not even in trials.
And of course, all brought to you by the wonderful human beings at the investment banks.
That's bubbles.
When you have a bond market
in corporate land
where you have bonds that used to yield
9% now yielding 3.5,
that's bubbles.
When you have monstrously
debt-laden countries
that have negative interest rates,
that's bubbles
caused by interference.
Just remember, economics 101
in bondland
states
the more debt you have
the more your debt is out of control, the more you should be paying your lenders.
Are there lenders right now?
If central banks are buying up all the stuff, the lenders, the people that want to buy the bonds get crowded out.
But when they do buy, they're getting yields much lower than the norm,
prices much higher than the norm, which equates back to,
Stock markets.
And not everything has to be in bubbles at once.
In 2000, housing stocks were at one-time's earnings.
They actually bottomed when the market topped.
So all we do is sit back and we just think about what's the norm?
Is it normal to have a biotech company with an $8 billion market cap that has no sales?
Of course not.
When in the past have we seen something like that?
this and what happened well in 1999 you had a bunch of dot com companies that had no sales
with those types of market caps and what was the outcome oh 80% drop 90% drop bought out for
pennies on the dollar or just flat out gone to zero that's the precedent that we always tend to
look at thus we always worry about what we are seeing we've always thought that markets
were between buyers and sellers
at specific prices that they wanted to do business at.
Not anymore.
Japan has admitted
they have used their own printed money.
By the way, Japan very debt-laden.
They use their own printed money to buy up stocks.
They've admitted it.
Our central banks haven't.
And they say they don't want to be audited.
hum. We already know they've interfered with the income markets, the bond markets, because they had to admit it.
They were out front and center. So the worry is we're in the midst of another bubble.
Now, as we talk right now, we're not sure what date you're listening to, and it may be a few months down the road from when we are talking, and things may have already occurred.
we'll see
so use this show as a broader
thought process
on central banks
and bubbles
and let's keep fingers crossed
that we're not
we aren't
we haven't been
in a 99
type atmosphere
now let me be clear
bubbles are great
as they're going up
you want to harness them
we do not use the term bubble badly while things are working oh but we use it badly when things
top when the music stops so we will always be watching closely because the biggest money is lost
when everybody is at their most greedy at the most ridiculous price structures
out there when everybody believes nothing can go wrong that this is going to go on forever
Warren Buffett once said beware of the naked man when he comes out of the ocean
when the surf drops and the tides roll in let's hope there's no naked man out there
ladies and gentlemen sorry to give you that picture
Up next, we'll move a little forward.
I want to talk about the importance of earnings, gaps, relative strength, and other stuff.
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So we've talked about central banks.
we've talked about bubbles the potential for them what they look like how they feel
how do they end we'll give you the typical you never really know how they're going to end
but typically they end at their noisiest really tough to define the word noisiest but you'll get a feel
when it happens.
It's when everyone's talking about it.
Everyone's speaking about it.
Front page or front cover of Newsweek and time and all that type of stuff.
That's when you typically will know.
Get ready if it ever does occur.
That's all.
Just very, very noisy.
Then, technically, how did they trade?
they'll be very extended from their move
everybody will think nothing will go wrong
and then all of a sudden you'll have
this one big gigantic down day from the highs
on Monstra's volume
that'll be the day where the balloon popped
but that doesn't necessarily be the day
that it's over and done
because typically what will happen
is you'll get a rally back up to the highs
that's the rally that gets everybody
saying, we're fine. We're good. No sweat. But then what happens? You get another big down day,
and it's the oi-vee moment. What does this mean? Can't be. And then you'll get another big rally up
near the highs, and you'll get another, told you so, we're fine. But those big swings
are a sign that the sellers are now involved
and are part of the equation
and it's at that point in time
where you start getting what we call
the slow unnoticed drip
then you'll break the first low
and then potential for waterfall type action
action that's uncontrollable never stops you think it has to come back and yet it doesn't and then you're down 30
and you're thinking it had a big move it's just got to be a correction then 40 and then 50 and then
50 and then you won't know what hit you and in the case of whatever you're in that has no sales
Once they're down 80, you basically say,
I don't care if it goes to zero now.
That's the cycle.
So please pay attention.
Moving on.
We talk about it all the time.
Earnings.
What does a company make during a quarter?
What's the net income?
Unfortunately, net income is pretty much a naked net.
number. You can't play with it. Earnings per share, you can play with it. It is very often now
where companies do big buybacks on purpose, use lower tax rates on purpose, shift assets from
here to there, up and down and all around, contracts into one quarter to the next, and then
you got what we call a lot of non-gap earnings. That's generally.
accepted accounting principles.
Well, anyway, the key to us and what we do is not just the numbers.
It's how things react to the numbers.
So we are always watching for the great beat reaction to an earnings report,
whether it's great to the upside or great to the downside.
A big gap off of earnings is the most significant sign of accumulation or distribution by the big boys because, A, if it's on the upside, demand for stock is such that they close something at 80 and has to open at 87 because things were so darn good.
Or demand for selling is so big that it closed at 80 and opened at 72 because things were so darned.
are headed south.
And we are just letting you know from our studies of the past.
In markets that are just range-bound, find those companies that have the strongest
reaction to earnings reports in the best technical shape, and typically for most of the
rest of that quarter, they will tend to lead and lead well.
So we're always in gear with that.
Now keep in mind, what you look for in these gaps is, A, on the first day, that it gaps.
There's not a lot of give back.
B, after the gap, it either keeps going or starts sitting tight or has nominal pullbacks on lighter volume,
indicating the buying is just petered out for now, and we're just waiting for the next round of buying,
which could be days or just weeks away.
Conversely, we always get the question, what if I own a stock that gaps down in a bad way?
It sort of depends.
It depends on the company.
It depends on what they said.
Depends on the market.
Keep in mind, a significant amount of gaps to the downside may mean something about the market,
as well as gaps to the upside, meaning something good about the market.
We're just letting you know this is first and foremost.
the things we watch for during earnings season.
And if you have a chance, go back five years and study all the earnings gaps to the upside
and see how well they did.
One quarter out, two quarters out, even a year out,
because sometimes that gap is the start of something really good going on.
Now, in bad markets, in bare markets, you're not going to get a lot of great gaps to the upside.
Markets usually cap those things.
In good markets, yeah, you'll get things gap into the downside, you always will, but typically less so.
And in very good markets, we have seen plenty of times where things have big gaps to the downside,
and they just rally right back up.
That tells you a little bit about market conditions.
Now it is important.
You should have estimates for the companies you are watching,
and it is important you look for what the number that came in
and whether they beat those estimates,
both on the sales front,
but more importantly on the earnings front,
because very often you can get turnarounds in companies
where sales aren't going up significantly,
but you have a huge gargantuan move in earnings growth because of some changes they made on the expense side.
So it's very important you just don't look at a number.
It's important that you just don't look at a stock.
It's very important you just don't look at the gap.
Know exactly whether the company's in a bull market, a bear market,
whether the sector's in a bull market and a bear market,
and why it gapped either up or down.
And it is very often the ones that gap up, do it again, and again, and again, these are your great companies.
Earning seasons for us is the most exciting time of the quarter, especially on the companies that we are following,
the ones with the strongest earnings and revenue growth, with the great,
relative strength in the market, which simply means how is that stock doing versus the whole sector that it's in, as well as versus the rest of the market.
Very important to watch that. It defines leadership in the market. Relative strength. So what exactly is relative strength?
How do you measure relative strength?
And why is it so important to watch other stocks in the sector of the company and stock that you are following?
Just some other tricks of the trade we follow.
So we'll wind it up next on relative strength, on cousin stocks.
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Again, we're either climbing Mount Everest, Mount Kilimajaro,
swimming with sharks off of the northeast coast of Australia, or it's a holiday.
So we have a special educational show.
We have heard you because we are using the same ones going back a few too many years.
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So let's move on.
We're talking markets.
We're talking stocks.
and we're talking the word relative strength.
And that two words gets bandied about very much on Wall Street.
To us, it's pretty simple.
Is that stock leading or is it lagging?
When the market is up, is it up more?
When the market is down, is it down less?
Simple as that.
We're looking for the strongest stocks in the market
that if the market's going up 10, it's going up 20.
If the market's going down to 10, it's flat.
Now, you're never going to get perfection,
but the whole idea is to recognize where that big leadership is.
But how do you measure it?
What is the best way to measure relative strength?
But really, price is the best way.
You can actually look at it and see.
But we have found that the people at William O'Neill and Company
have the best way.
They use a relative strength line
on the charts they use used to be on their daily graph charts.
It's now called Market Smith.
And their charts show you, number one,
a little line of the S&P
and a little line of the stock, relative strength.
And we just love when we see a stock
where the market's doing nothing.
The stock has its relative strength line,
into new high ground while the market's sitting.
That's relative strength.
We love when the market's cratering, cratering, and the stock you are following is just sitting,
and the relative strength line is soaring, just waiting for the market to stop going down before price catches up.
This is what we are looking for in a daily basis.
and we use that relative strength line
and it also comes with a number from 1 to 99
on those charts
it is a great weapon in the arsenal
can tell you what your stock is doing
and you're always looking
my favorite way to know when to not buy something
is something called a relative strength non-confirmation
and what that simply means is the market is ridiculously strong
and your stock finally starts to move out of range,
but it hasn't kept up with the market at all.
It's just moving because it's being carried on a leash by the market.
And when the market decides to turn and come down,
the lack of strength in that stock takes it down more easily
than something that busted out three weeks in advance.
So very important to watch, as well as the cousin stocks.
and what that simply means is if you have 25 restaurant stocks
and they're all in a bare market
and then one all of a sudden busts out into a bullmark and starts rolling
and then number two starts showing up and then number three, number four, number five
usually means the rest are going to follow to a certain extent
and you start paying attention to every stock in the group.
Now there are industries, sectors that are notorious where everything moves hand in hand.
The oils, it's commodity.
Price goes up.
Just about everything goes up.
So it's a little bit different than, let's say, the restaurants.
I've seen plenty of times where you've had strong ones with weak ones at the same time.
And that's why you use the measuring stick of relative strength when looking at cousin stocks.
And let me say, when a group is starting to show up in relative strength, you're always,
want to pay attention to the first name or the second name, maybe the third name, that
busts out.
You typically do not want to go for that last one.
The true strength will show up first.
The big leaders will show up first.
There's a simple way they show up.
They'll be breaking above resistance levels and potentially showing up on the yearly
new high list.
So we watch relative strength
as well as cousin stocks
together.
We've heard some analysts say
that buy the worst
stock in a group when it starts moving.
We don't believe in that.
We're not saying the worst stock won't move.
We want the best.
When you're picking sides
on a basketball team,
you're picking the worst
or you're picking the best.
or you're picking the best.
When you're looking for the great strength in the market,
are you looking for the best
or you're looking to the ones
pulling up on the stretch?
So very important,
you put these two into your arsenal also.
You can check out
Investors.com,
Marketsmith.com,
and check out those charts.
We do not get paid by them.
We're just letting you know what we use.
and you can look up the definitions of their relative strength and what they look like if you go to their site.
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We're going to do more shows like this in an effort to educate.
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Today, we're exploring deep in the North American wilderness
among nature's wildest, plants, animals, and cows?
Uh, you're actually on an Organic Valley dairy farm,
where nutritious, delicious organic food gets at start.
But there's so much nature.
Exactly.
Organic Valley's small family farms protect the land and the plants and animals that call it home.
Extraordinary.
Sure is. Organic Valley.
Protecting where your food comes from.
Learn more about their delicious dairy at ovi.com.
OOP.
