Investor's Edge with Gary Kaltbaum - Mixed bag of slop [12.16.2025]
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It's the 16th December, 2025.
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I've gotten one nasty in months, some jackass, who couldn't argue anything I had to say.
And it's okay.
You know what I'd say to everybody?
Is it okay to disagree?
And I think everybody gets it at this point.
It is.
As long as you don't like Hamas.
Fair enough.
We do have a bunch to cover today.
I'm going to tell you that the Dow is down 302.
But the S&P was only down 16 because the NASDAQ was up 54 and the NASDAQ 100 was up 65.
I'll tell you why in a little bit.
Well, I can just say up front, revenge is some of the big names helped out today.
We'll get into that.
But there are a few other things of note that I do want to cover, and that is of import.
So I pulled out some notes.
And these are notes for the future.
of what may or may not happen.
And I'm going to start with Oracle,
because I watch what you watch.
I watch what you.
I'm on TV with people,
and I get a feel.
I believe I get a good feel for the masses and stuff.
And as you know,
the biggest noise on Wall Street is artificial intelligence.
And what we think we do very well here
is ask questions.
Not of anybody,
but I just ask questions out loud.
Because we've been told,
and to this day,
I heard a few people out there today,
artificial intelligence is going to be,
and you can imagine how bullish they are.
They're hugely bullish.
And for the record,
We hope they're right.
We hope they're right.
No, really, we hope they're right.
Just because we are skeptics does not mean we don't hope they're right.
We want markets to go up.
We'd love to see the artificial intelligence stocks go to the moon.
But we ask questions.
The first question, and it really is an easy, simple question,
ask. If things are so good, and Oracle back in September announced a backlog of a half a billion
dollars, a half a trillion dollars, I'm sorry. By the way, I'm not kidding. If things are so good
and Oracle's announced, get the latest, has 248 billion of AI cloud data center lease commitments
This is up from $150 billion, from the 99 billion in commitments report at the end of August.
If things are so good, why is the stock gone from 346 to 187?
If things are so good, why are their credit default swap skyrocketing to levels not seen since 2008?
Oh, because free cash flow has been collapsing.
If things are so good, by the way, we're talking markets here,
why are bondholders now sitting on a 9% unrealized loss on $18 billion of debt issued just this September?
With the bonds now falling to junk rating.
You see, if you all have listened to me and listened carefully,
we think the markets are really smart and we've proven it to you.
Do you remember when we were the only ones on Wall Street cursing out Jay Powell when he was printing money?
And when he stopped printing money, do you remember it was us that are saying?
Oh, look at the 10-year yield go.
They're no longer printing money, so they're not buying the bonds with fake money and forcing rates down.
The real free market is taken over, and it's an uh-oh moment.
It's caused the bare market.
It caused the inflation.
And it caused J. Powell to play catch up.
And all we did at the time was ask questions.
So our one question is Oracle.
But it's not just Oracle.
Why is Microsoft so darn weak?
And they told us it's purely artificial intelligence.
Why did Broadcom just crash in the past three days, two days from 405?
to 340 on their earnings report.
Why is super micro down 50%?
Why has Corweaves bonds been blasted
and the stocks gone from 187 to 69.5?
While they're out there telling you you must own.
So I don't know what Cretto, VRT, the data centers
just got blasted for 20%.
So instead of listening to people's opinions
who are very often late in the game
and it's proven to be,
we have to listen to what the markets tell us
because markets are genius.
Not all the time.
And you know what the big standout was, right?
Those that have listened to this show
going all the way back,
to 07.
Do you remember what happened during that year leading up to 08 and the devastation in the
financials?
We're on this show every day saying the financials are really underperforming.
The Dow just went up a thousand points and the financials didn't even budge.
Oh, the Dow just dropped a thousand points and the financials led down.
Something is up with the banks and the financials.
That's all we said.
we had no idea what would happen.
We didn't know Merrill Lynch and Countrywide and all this company's out of business.
We didn't know.
But the market sure did.
You go back to that year, you will see the market caved and the banks led down.
And then the market rallied up a thousand and the banks didn't budge.
And as soon as the market top, the banks caved again.
and then when all was said and done,
Bear Stearns, Merrill, Lehman, Countrywide, Wachovia,
was Washington Mutual also?
The market knew it.
The market showed the way.
Way in advance, while everybody's saying, don't worry.
And everybody, everybody is saying don't worry about artificial intelligence,
while the market's saying otherwise.
Oh, by the way, Nvidia remains on the ledge.
Still hanging in there.
Only down about, let's see, from the highs, 212 to 178.
2234, what is that, about, that's not bad, 2234, 16%.
That's no big deal.
That's a correction.
It better hold.
So anyway, just letting you know,
while everybody is sanguine,
the market.
And by the way, I haven't mentioned advanced micro devices.
Arm holdings.
These are all artificial intelligence names.
Taiwan semis trade, not bad,
but trading below the 50 day.
We were told.
So we just want to start with that
because I'm getting more information in
about the bonds,
which by the way,
pretty much matter more than the stocks.
Up next, lots for you.
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So let me give you one more in my little bag of tricks.
Anybody heard of a company called
Fermi
F-E-R-M-I
symbol
F-R-M-I
So in case you don't know
it came public in October
At $21
Opened at around 30
The next day hit 37
Not making this up
At $37
You know
I actually have to take out my
calculator just to give you an exact number.
37 times 614.
At the highs, the day after it opened, had a $22.7 billion market cap.
Let me repeat that.
If you bought the stock, the second day had a 22.7 billion market cap, at the IP.
P.O. Times.
They brought it out at almost a $13 billion market cap.
They have no sales.
Wall Street hates you. Do not forget that.
They brought out an initial public offering at a $13 billion market cap.
At the initial public offering, you were paying $13 billion for a company with no sales.
What I say, it hit $37.
It was a $21 IPO.
It's $9.69 and still has almost a $6 billion market cap with no sales.
Did I tell you that I guess they're going to develop data centers or something?
Oh, they lost their first tenant for their massive Texas data center.
And the stock dropped big that day.
By the way, we're not ripping on the company.
We're ripping on Wall Street.
They hate you.
It's like the Republicans and the Democrats hate you.
It's like the governor of California hates his citizens.
Have you seen what gas is in California, by the way?
Just off the beaten path for a second.
They hate their citizens, yet the citizens keep voting for those same people.
They're insane.
So just letting you know, they have something called the Project Matator sites, this, this,
and this, and it's still got a $6 billion market cap.
We'll see how it plays out.
But all I can tell you is, all evidence in so far, the market's worried.
Let me put it better.
The market is really worried.
we hope you listen to us. Do you know we had Oracle? And we played it by the book. I think we sold it 303.
And I think we made a buck. It's 188. And I would have never believed that suckered be 188.
I would have never believed it. Let's continue. I have a very important sector to point out.
to you recently, oh, there's a few oils that are strong, but we're not touching the oils
because there's too many in bad shape.
Will this leave them be?
Well, we're just letting you know the oil ETFs rolled over badly today, which is good news
at the pump.
Oil prices down another buck 66 today, down to 50.
I mean, just down, way down.
Oil prices breaking down here.
This is great news at the pump.
except if you own oil stocks.
So when you have a chance, go look at the OIH, try to break out,
failed miserably rolling over,
and that's the strongest of the ETFs.
The XOPs are goner and the big oil XLEs are gone,
so just letting you know, avoid the oils.
And we had an avoid on it anyhow,
but doubly avoid.
How's that?
Doubly avoid the oils.
But again, very good news at the point.
And we think, good guess, we're hearing that Russia and Ukraine are going to come up with something.
We don't know if it's going to happen or not, but they're leaking.
You know, they're very good at leaking.
So they're kind of sort of leaking right now that they're close to something.
And the thought process is that Russia has sanctions against them on their oil.
and if the removal of sanctions, they can sell oil big time again.
You put more oil onto the market.
That lowers prices.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
I don't think it has anything to do with the economy,
though the jobs numbers came out.
They suck.
The apologists for the president,
even they couldn't spin it.
We're letting you know you have some sort of a,
I don't know if I called a job recession,
but job weakness.
Does it have to do with artificial intelligence?
Maybe I don't know.
It's just weak.
Here's a good guess, though.
What did we tell you for months here daily on this show?
What did we tell you about the tariffs and not just the tariffs,
but the ever-changing of the tariffs?
on number, on product, on country, kept changing and changing and changing.
And due to the fact it's our companies pay that tariff, yes, they lied to us, he lied to us.
Due to the fact, it's our companies, how the hell can they plan or even higher when they don't know what their expenses are going to be?
I got to this day
I'm not sure what tariffs there are
and I have to tell you when I put it
and when I search what tariffs are out there
I notice a bunch of it is aged
so I don't even know
but imagine if you
let's see
you buy a lot of chotchkes
from China
snow globes
imagine
and all of a sudden there's a 50%
tariff on it so instead of you paying 10 bucks for one you're paying 15 and there goes your
profits you're gonna hire people hell no so this there were tariffs I don't know what's still
out there but I'm sure I'm sure there by the way I still think there's 10 and 15% tariffs on
almost everything that's a good not even a reach up next what else we got for you lots to cover
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By the way
I must circle back
I forgot to even mention
that Microsoft
cut their sales targets
For what is known as
Agenic AI software by up to 50%
after struggling to find buyers.
So who the hell knows?
Did I also mention that AI hyperscalers have issued more debt over the last three months
than over the previous three years and actually a lot more?
So there's a lot of crap going on out there that...
And again, we want it to work out.
but I got to tell you, and we've said this since day one,
the numbers being projected are just obscene,
which takes me to something else.
You know my buddy Charles Payne?
I appear on the show very often.
First off, I know him personally.
What a good man.
What a good man.
And let me tell you another part.
When you host shows and you have to interview people
and you were interviewing people.
I've seen interviews of people in the political world
and the financial world and stuff like that.
I don't know how they're able to hold their tongue
and keep their emotions in check sometimes
with some of the things that are said.
So I'm watching my buddy Charles Payne show today,
and what I love about him
is he very much believes in putting it out there.
He has all kinds of people on the show.
I love that.
I like hearing from all kinds.
So he had a guy on today
who said in 15 years
Bitcoin is going to be
$50 million, not $15,50,
$5.0.
I believe he said Ethereum
in 15 years would be $1.5 million.
Ethereum price
is $2,900.
My good friend Charles Payne, when he said that, I'm wondering what's going through his mind.
Because at 50 million, I'm pretty sure if you add it up or multiply, 50 million Bitcoin would be the total market cap or GDP of every country on Earth.
I'm pretty sure I'm in the ballpark.
I have to tell you if I was doing that interview and somebody said 50 million,
I don't know how I would be able to hold back.
I think I would be, what in blue hell are you talking about?
But hosts need to be respectful.
And I get that.
So more power to my buddy.
But anyway, and I don't know who the guy is and I'm not here to rip on him or anything.
If it goes to 50 million, psh.
But just remember there's this other guy on the other channel.
I keep getting videos from you guys.
You keep sending me this guy and I'm not naming them.
But last month he said Bitcoin would be $150,000 at the end of the year.
And this is when it was at $100,000, 50%, but then he changed it to $200,000.
So he said Bitcoin would go up 100% in a month and change.
Then he changed it to end of January.
And of course, now we've dropped from $120.
You get the point.
I am no fan of outrageous predictions.
I'm really not.
You know the only outrageous prediction I've ever seen come true?
Is at the top or near the top.
And I don't remember who in Barron's,
a technology guy came out and said that Cisco Systems,
when it was the hottest thing going,
was going to drop 80%.
And he was right.
by the way, I laughed at them at the time.
Anyway, be careful.
We're also very careful of the crash people.
You know, you know who they are.
They put out books and they say they called it right every time and they didn't.
The crash people.
And by the way, one of the crash people said Bitcoin would be $350,000 at the end of this year.
Again, we're not going to mention names.
We're not out to personalize this.
We're just here because we like you.
And we want to make sure that when people come out with outrageous predictions,
they're usually selling something.
Newsletters and books and all that crap.
And it's incumbent upon you.
Just be smart.
Just be smart.
I mentioned oil, Bitcoin bounced a little today.
Semis were weak.
Advanced declines on New York, 17 to 27 on the NASDAQ 20 to 25.
Here's interesting.
New Yearly highs, new yearly lows on the New York, the same.
And the NASDAQ, I've got 94 new yearly highs, 225 new yearly lows.
And I must tell you, out of those 94 on the NASDAQ,
There's not 94.
There's a bunch of non-operating companies, I can promise you that.
So internal's not great, but good day for the bigs on the NASDAQ.
Let's see, New Yearly highs on the NASDAQ.
Yeah, you got a bunch that finished down so they didn't finish good.
Oh, you know, my bad.
You got a bunch of very small regional banks.
They all finish down today.
They all finish down.
Most of them.
But still a few small regional banks,
New Yearly highs on the NASDAQ today.
Yeah, look at that.
And that's a little bit of our story.
We're hearing the president's going to have an oval office speech tomorrow at 8 p.m.
They are teasing it.
They are not saying what it's about.
and then I believe
what's her name
Levitt
the press secretary
who I love
forget what she
her handling
of the press
and I'm not talking about
the big substance
because her job is to tell you
what the president says
I think she's fantastic at what she does
anyway she teased
something about
economics
I am in her
hopes, it's not gifts.
Hey, we're going to give you $2,000
bucks each. I'm in hopes. That's not what
it is. I'm in hopes.
Listen carefully.
No more the over-promising.
I don't want to hear the words
golden age anymore
because if you don't get a
golden age, I don't want to hear
affordability's a hoax
which has been said.
If that doesn't lose votes,
I don't know what does.
What I'm in hope is they've listened.
to this show. We're going to keep taxes low. We're going to get rid of onerous regulations.
We're going to have the border continue to be secure. We're going to fight crime. And we're going to
get the hell out of your way. That's what I'm hoping for. Of course, that's not what we're going to get.
The president loves being involved in many ways, which does not thrill us. Nothing personal.
That would go for any president.
It would go for any president.
Any president.
And we just came off the worst president in history.
The worst.
Yeah, I guess you could have been worse than Biden.
But what he did with the border,
he should have been impeached for that.
To this day, we don't know who's in this kind of.
country. Their vetting sucked and boy oh boy the costs. We're just trying to figure that out.
So that'll be tomorrow night. I don't think it's the announcement of the Fed. I think it's going to be
something more important than that. So that'll be tomorrow. Yippee, yay, yay. As I said at the outset,
the job numbers came in. The revisions were even worse than the numbers. They go back
month and it's a tough market for the jobs and that's why we've said to here
make yourself indispensable at your companies if you work for somebody else you know
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Speaking of Joe Biden, I still remember when the worst president we've ever had said that when I think of climate change, I think of jobs.
And as you know, they forced all these companies into electric vehicles. Have you seen the news on Ford today?
a Ford is taking a charge of $19.5 billion.
No longer plans to produce select larger electric vehicles
where the business case has eroded due to lower than expected demand.
So let's go back on this.
The President Biden and his administration forced these companies into making things
that did not have the demand, guaranteeing massive losses by the companies, not by Joe Biden.
19.8 billion.
On top of that, high costs and regulatory charges, they're going to take majority in the fourth quarter, the rest 26 and 27.
And they're going to do more gas because that's what people like.
What a concept.
Produce the products that people want and like.
Don't produce the products that don't sell so you take a $19 billion right off.
What a concept, huh?
And of course, the media is complicit in defending this guy for all that time.
Next, weed had another good day today.
You know our drug prevention president that is shooting up boats that are bringing in drugs, that same president who pardoned the ex-president, I guess he was the president of Honduras, that was found guilty of trafficking 400 tons of cocaine.
You know, that president that cares so much about drugs
Now wants to make it easier to get weed, get more marijuana
Regardless that they're all being told how bad it is for you,
Just letting you know, I must tell you,
I wish I had the president's ear.
First off, New York City is one big gigantic bang hit.
You walk the city and all you do is smell weed.
I don't care what anybody tells you.
Marijuana is not good for you.
And to continue to say, well, don't smoke tobacco and cigarettes.
Oh, but let's legalize marijuana.
Help me with that.
And I know there's other forms fabulous.
I'm just big believer that anything that can change you.
and your appearance and your demeanor and your movements,
I don't think it's good news.
You know who's celebrating?
The people that make Kraft macaroni and cheese?
The people who make Doritos?
Because the munchies are going to be a bull market going forward.
So I completely disagree with this one.
I bet there's plenty of out there that disagree with me, but that's okay.
That's okay.
That's okay.
Anyway, just letting you know the marijuana stocks, which was strong,
a gaped up big time.
Let's see, when was it?
It was Friday.
Little rough day yesterday.
Today had a strong day.
Really good moves.
One of the indexes, let's see, four days ago closed at $26.82.
It's $41.22 at the close at the close today.
damn, I wish I owned it.
Unfortunately, I'm glad we haven't owned it for the last few years when we told you stay away,
because that same index that closed at 41 today was 545 in 2019.
Did I say 545?
Yeah.
And then you got some stocks like Aurora Cannabis.
Do you know it hit a high of 1,500?
$103. It's $5.53 today.
How about, ooh, here's a good one. Canopy growth. What a name. Hit a high of $592.
It's $1.83 today. By the way, these are all after a strong move up the last few days.
Do not forget how they touted you on these marijuana stocks. They were the end-all, be-all.
and we said to you, well, if everybody is able to grow marijuana, how is it possible all these companies are going to do well?
And if your Uncle Biff, who lives around the corner, will sell it to you for cheaper and he has the good stuff, much better than what's being sold at the stores, and you don't pay tax with the Uncle Biff,
Who do you get your marijuana from?
Food for thought, ladies and gentlemen.
By the way, we were asking questions back then.
Little did we know they dropped 90 to 95%.
Wait a minute. CGC, that's like 97%.
Dang.
Tough going.
Anyway, there's still a good business for it.
They got some of these places in New York City.
Most illegal, but they don't do anything
about it. And by the way, I still remember years ago, I was in Aspen, Colorado at night.
We just watched a concert in a bar. We watched Sticks. It was in a bar doing a concert.
And we're walking out and the town is all dead and everything. And we turn the corner.
But there was one place that had a line of like a hundred people. We're thinking it's Hagen-Doss or something.
It was a marijuana place. Welcome to Aspen.
Anyway, have a good evening. Drive careful.
When you get home, do like we do.
Quite simple.
Make sure you hug your family and hug your children.
They will feel better.
You will feel better.
I promise.
Stay well.
Be well.
Happy Hanukkah.
Heading towards Christmas.
Have a good night, all.
Bye, bye.
This has been Investor's Edge with Gary Cult Bomb on BizTalk.
To listen to past episodes or to get in contact with Gary, go to garyk.com.
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