Is It Just Me? - #141: Aloha!

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

Hope you all have a GAWJUS Easter!! We'll be back in a few weeks after taking a li'l break xx   In this episode: Start saying NO to shit you don’t like (07:10) DEEP questions to ask during small talk (17:03) Lies parents told us as kids (25:27) Jenna’s Junk - spare beds, spare groceries & wedding hashtags (25:27) More pop culture moments that live in our heads rent-free (52:11) Our “Secret Segment” ADDebrief (1:02:11)   Hit us up: @coupleofmitches Send us a text: 0422 948 202See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is Is It Just Me? Hosted by a couple of Mitches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a call. Go! Brace yourself for the rude shocks of young adulthood. Yeah, no one says the word turn as an adult. You know how kids would be like, can I have a turn?

You don't say that shit as an adult. Can I have a turn in your car? I want a turn! Now is my turn. Now is Mitch Chudy and Mitchell Coombs. Oh, hello, you. Aloha, you. Oh, my God.

Very true. Aloha, you. By the time you'll be hearing this, people, I will be in Waikiki. Aloha. Aloha? Is that it? That's not it, is it? You're not Aloha, just Aloha, I think.

I'm just, I'm going off Lilo and Stitch. It's Aloha, right? I don't know. Yeah, Aloha. They also say Mahalo. By the way, what the fuck? This just came out of nowhere. You just decided, oh, I'm going to Hawaii all of a sudden.

I know. I know. I'm going for my mum's 60th. Sorry, I did come prepared, by the way. My mum, my beautiful mum Michelle is 60 and her dream is to go to Hawaii with the family because we went 10 years ago. By the way, I can't believe she's turning

60. She does not look a day over 59. No, thank you so much. She looks fantastic. And we went in 2010 as a family and she's wanted to replicate it ever since. She hasn't even been back overseas since 2010. Oh wow. So she is so like she puts things off. She hasn't even been back overseas since 2010. Oh, wow. So she is so, like, she puts things off. She's a massive procrastinator.

So we had to do it for her. We organised it. We surprised her. And we're flying out. Saturday, we'll be in Waikiki for 10 days. Far out. I mean, the obvious needs to be said that the podcast is taking a few weeks off because you're on holiday.

We're having a little bit of an Easter break, but we'll be back sometime in the next few weeks. And guess who is back today? Oh, my God. Pricekeeper Jen is here. She's back. She's alive. Hi everyone. How's the long COVID treating you? You know, fatigue is setting in rapidly. But you know, I'm getting there. I'm getting there. You poor thing. They say COVID sort of lingers too. And like it can kind of come back and kick you back in the butt after a couple of weeks. Oh, I really don't want that. Oh, she looks good. Don't you think, Mitch?

Yeah, she does. I don't want to scare you or anything, Jenna, but I would say that my post-COVID fog has only just started to get better in the last month. And I had it in March of 2022. Oh my God. Yeah, it was rough for a bit there. Oh no. It was also just my mental health in general.

But anyway, we won't get into that. No, but I'm with you. I had it. I've had it twice now. I had it in january of this year and like it's i still feel like it just has thrown me off mentally but like i've got that crime i've got the brain illness so like you know i've got other issues going on so i think it threw my whole central nervous system out but i just find it easier to blame covid i'm like oh is it the depression nah gotta be covered totally i eat

a full cheese toasty at midnight and then sleep like a terror. I sleep terribly. And I'm like, oh, it's COVID from January. And Hayden's like, I think it's because your blood sugar was three times the human limit. I'm like, nah, it's COVID. That's what I like about having official COVID is that I can blame stuff on COVID. Totally. Yeah.

But you live to tell a tale. Yes. Congratulations. I'm still alive. That's good. That's good. Well, you're back. Connie would've lived to tell a tale. Yes, I'm still alive. That's good, that's good. Well, you're back. Connie would have loved having you at home. Oh, she absolutely loved it, especially the week before with Intruder.

So that petrified her. Yeah, that would have. So, you know, it was nice being there with her. Oh, my God, Mitch, imagine if Jenna was home during the Intruder break-in because she had COVID. Yeah, I was thinking that. The man wouldn't have walked away alive. No.

Well, there would be one person dead. It would be either me or him. It would be maybe him. Because I would have either had a heart attack or I would have attacked him. No. You would have gone into defensive mum. Yeah, I was going to say in that situation, fight or flight, Jenna would fucking fight. Yeah.

Oh, God, yeah. You'd be a fighter. You know when someone gets attacked and then they're like, oh, we knew that it was defensive. There were defensive wounds because they were covered in scratches. That would be you. You've got those nail claws. You would shred someone up. Yeah.

No, I feel like I do have the ability to shred somebody to death. That's something you should be proud of, Jenna, at the end of the day. So I'm going to Hawaii. Mitchell, what are you doing for the next two weeks while we take a break? Well, I'll be going to stay in Rosemary's Airbnb, as I spoke to you about last week. Ah, yeah. And then, you know, we'll have Easter.

I'll be doing the Melbourne Comedy Festival quite soon. So, yeah, no, not really a holiday for me. Okay. Well, still, nice little break for the three of us, and then we'll come back rearing and ready to go. Jenna's just had a fucking three-week break from us. Yeah, but she's been ill. Yeah, I've been ill, intruders. Well, I'm ill currently, Jenna, and I've turned up virtually. Yeah, but she's been ill. Yeah, I've been ill. Intruders.

Well, I'm ill currently, Jenna, and I've turned up virtually. Yeah, Mitch is from home today, everybody. That's right. Doesn't this take you back to the good old days of lockdown when I couldn't come into the studio for the podcast? Oh, my God. Someone messaged me the other day and was like, I just started listening.

I'm 65. I love the shows. It's so weird to go back and listen to all the COVID episodes because we took it so seriously at the start. Then we kind of scared and then we're like, what the fuck's going on? And then we just gave up. She's like, it's so funny to listen back. Because I think our podcast started in 2019 and then COVID hit.

We'd only been on the cloud for a couple of weeks before, a couple of months before COVID was a thing. Yeah, I had to work from home for like, I don't know, four or five months. So I'm an old hack at this. It's fine. Well, it's good to all be here for our last episode before our mid-quarterly entry-level year break. It needs to be pointed out why I'm working from home, though. It's out of the goodness of my heart. I would like the praise, please. Oh, yes. So Mitchell was worried that he would infect me before I depart on my trip,

all expenses paid, to Waikiki. Yes. And he said, I said, do you have COVID? Because I don't want to give Hayden, who's allergic to it, I don't want to give him COVID. Absolutely not. I don't have COVID. I've just got a fucked flu. And I was like, I don't want to ruin your holiday.

So thoughtful. That's very thoughtful. That is very thoughtful, Mitchell. I was shocked. I actually called Hayden. I'm like, Mitch isn't coming in. He's going to do the pod from home because he doesn't want to infect me. And he was like, wow.

He was blown away. That act of kindness. Selfless. Why is that so surprising? It's not surprising. It's just nice. It's just a nice act, you know? Well, I mean, I've got your immune system to contend with.

You would absolutely catch whatever I've got. Oh, my God, totally. You would. Yeah, you could text me and I'd catch what you've got. That's how my immune system is. It's truly. I'd sneeze on FaceTime and you're like, oh, totally. Yeah, you could text me and I'd catch what you've got. That's how my immune system is. I'd sneeze on FaceTime and you're like, oh God. Well, let's start the show. On the way, we're doing a Jenna's Junk.

We've got our Jenna back and Mitch and I have built up the junk since you've been gone. There's so much junk. We're going to be emptying out the system. Really good clear out. Finally. All the gunk. Her junk is full of all of our shit, is it just me ideas that we think, nah, let's not actually bring that up on the podcast, but then they end up being brought up anyway.

Totally. Yep. But if it is your first time listening, this is Is It Just Me? Every week we start the show with two Is It Just Me? Something we've noticed, something we hate or appreciate. Mitch doesn't know mine. I don't know Mitch's. These are the good-isms.

Yeah, the ones that aren't junk. No, these make it to the show. So mine this week is something that I was reading about that I think is absolute bullshit. I think it's horseshit. I didn't know you could read. I know. I've just learned. It's so much fun.

I have to read with my finger, though. And when I read, I have one of those book lights. You know when you were a kid and you had Harry Potter and you had that clip-on light at the top of the book? Yes. Yeah, that's the only way I can do it. So I'll be reading from that. That's mine.

Oh, well, do you want me to go first? Yeah, you go first. Get yours out of the way. All right, let's go. Is it just me or? Should we all be saying no to shit we don't really want to do more often? Oh, deep one. Yeah, I think we should.

It's hard to say no, though. You've got to unlearn some real habits to be able to be comfortable to do it. Yeah, it depends on the person. If you're more of a people pleaser, it is harder to say no. I reckon I've gotten pretty good at it. But it's not just about pleasing others. It's about saying no to shit that you don't really want to do yourself, but you still feel like you should.

Yeah, like what? Give us an example. What have you started saying no to? Well, the reason I started thinking about this was because I listened to a podcast the other day called The Imperfects and, you know, Chrissy Swann, who I fucking adore. I love Chrissy Swann. Yeah, she's great.

She's my competitor in the afternoon, by the way, so I hate Chrissy Swann. Oh, yeah, shit, she is your competition. I mean, I also love the pickup. Thank you. 3 p.m. weekdays on the Kiss Network. No, no, we can love Chrissy Swann. I love Chrissy Swann.. Thank you. 3 p.m. weekdays on the Kiss Network. No, no. We can love Chrissy Swann. I love Chrissy Swann.

She's gorgeous. Yeah. Anyway, I was listening to The Imperfects. Chrissy was their guest and she was talking about starting to set boundaries and say no to shit that she doesn't really want to do because at the end of the day, all these things are making her quite unhappy in the long run. And so I'll play you some examples of some of the shit that Chrissy is starting to say no to.

Okay. the long run. And so I'll play you some examples of some of the shit that Chrissy is starting to say no to. Okay. I was pretending to like things that mothers should like. And I stopped the weekend sports. It made them miserable. It made me miserable. None of us were enjoying it. We were doing it. All of us were doing it because we were told that we should do it. We're not those types of people. And that was really freeing. So instead, we are currently on the hunt for the best butter chicken in Melbourne. Yeah.

That's us. Yeah. We're on fire for that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Doesn't that sound like so much fun? That's great.

I love that so much. Imagine that. Oh, are you joining the fucking soccer team this term? Nah's great. I love that so much. Imagine that. Oh, are you joining the fucking soccer team this term? Nah, mum and I are looking for some sick butter chicken. Amazing. It's so true because I feel like half the time parents hate the soccer, the sport that the kids are in as well. They always do.

Totally. You just feel like you've got to do stuff like that. But that's true, not even sports specific. There are so many things that we do because we're conditioned to just do them. Yeah, it all comes down to the word should. People are like, oh, I should enjoy this. I should do that. And so I need you two to think right now of something that you're going to draw a line in the sand and say, no, no more. I'll give you a bit of time to think. In the meantime, here's another one of Chrissy's examples. I was running myself ragged to do the school lunches,

which are shithouse boring. So if you just once say, I'm not feeling that, or what about we do this instead, or just little things. Like one of the first things I did was I went onto my phone and I looked up the lunch order service at my kid's primary school and I ticked every single fucking day. Margarita pita pizza, choc chip cookie and a bottle of milk. Done.

Gold. That sounds yum. Yeah, I was going to say, God, I wish I had a mum like that. I feel like that's a win-win. The kids are like lunch orders every day. Sweet. I've got one. Okay, so I've got one.

I have a problem with saying yes to everything. Like when it comes to work, I will say yes to anything anyone wants me to do. When it comes to work. Gotcha. I was going to say I have not yet experienced this problem of yours saying yes to everything. I get a lot of rejection from you when it comes to social outings, but that's okay. That's different. I'm more comfortable saying no in a social outing.

It's work. Like I'm a workaholic, but I don't identify as a workaholic. I've only just realized that I work a fucking shit ton. Far too much. Too many hours in a day, and I'm exhausting myself. Yeah. You put your hand up for a lot as well, like taking on extra. Yes.

It's ridiculous. And I haven't built... You guys will understand this, but it requires context. Where I work at Kiss, I used to do a segment called The Cash Cock, which I've spoken about, where I dressed up as a rooster, got tackled to the ground, and I said yes to that because I had nothing else on and it got me into the company and it was great. But now I've got two national shows on Kiss and it's awesome

and Cash Cock was back. And they said to me, oh, we'd love you to do Cash Cock. And in my head, I'm like, I've got to say yes. I've got to say yes. I've got to do it. And it's to say yes. I've got to do it. And it's like, no, I don't have to dress up. Yeah, you can't be running around as the bloody radio station mascot at six in the morning and then still be on air at 10 o'clock at night. That's just burning the candle at both ends. At 27 years old with a partner. And also when I'm

on the network twice in the day, trying to be taken seriously is an actual hoax. I'm like, also that's me in the morning being tackled by a tradie, which I would enjoy, by the way. But I went home and was talking to my mum and she said, oh, I heard the cash cock. They're promoting it on the air. So who got the job? And I said, oh, I'm not actually sure who got the job, mum.

She went, well, that's really disappointing that you said no to that. And I said, why? Come on, Michelle. Because it's a really good opportunity. Great to get you in front of the people that matter. What? I'm like, mum, I've got two shows. What do you mean?

All these people want is cash. They're not there for you. They're not there for me. They're not there for the cock. No. You're going to be like, fuck this, Mum. I'm hiding your passport. You're not coming to Hawaii. Fucking shredded it.

But it's just, I don't know, I'm trying to understand the psyche of why I say yes to everything. Maybe it's because I want to be, you know, I'm going away to Hawaii. Like I said, we've been talking about someone's filling in on my show. I'm like, who's filling in? Who is it?

Who's taking over? I'm like, why do I not your problem? That's exactly right. It doesn't need to be my problem. So I need to start saying no to all this extra stuff that I won't benefit me. And B, like you said,

isn't my problem. I didn't intend this to be this deep, but we're going deep now because I know where your tendency to say yes comes from. Your bloody mother, she's conditioned you. Listen to her. Totally. Absolutely 100%. And I think it's because I want to impress my parents.

I'm hosting some award ceremony coming up. Of course you fucking are. I know, I know, because I said yes. Anyway, no, it's a good gig. And I was telling dad and he's like, oh, God, you did the podcast awards at the start of the year. I went, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I'm good at that stuff. And he's like, I don't see you as good.

I don't think you're any good at it. Oh, okay. He goes, no, no, it's only because I'm your dad and I'll never see how good you are. And I'm like, I don't think that's doing what you think it's doing. What do you mean you'll never see how good? That's the opposite. Your parents are supposed to pump up your tides even if you're shit. No, they're terrified of me getting an ego. They want humility. Dad's like, it'll never see her. That's the opposite. Your parents are supposed to pump up your tides even if you're shit. No, they're terrified of me getting an ego.

They want humility. Dad's like, it's all about humility. It's all about humility. He hates awards, hates praise. So I think I'm trying to chase that, you know? I can understand that, but they should also be a bit, they should be your cheerleaders. Anyway, fuck, I don't want to paint your parents in a bad light.

Fuck, they are adorable. My parents are amazing, and you guys know my parents. Yeah. They're very supportive, and they celebrate all my wins. But there's just little moments when things like that happen, and it's like, what are you trying to do? Dad listens to a lot of self-help podcasts, so he's

probably something Priyanka Chopra or someone's told him to say, or whatever that dumb It's such a straight man attitude, too. Like, oh, you're doing great. You can still be doing better. You've got to hustle. I know. I know. I know. Fuck.

Anyway, the thing I'm saying no to is far less deep than that, I must say. Yeah. So I've made a decision just this week, actually, that I'm saying no to fucking pot plants in the house. I can't be fucked. I'm not a plant gay. I never will be. They all keep dying on me and I Google how to look after whatever this plant is called.

They've all got different needs and different light exposures and I just can't be fucked. And plus, like I've said before, the cat's allergic to half of them. So it's fake plants for me. No more pot plants. I'm all for artificial plants. We definitely took different approaches to this, but I'm now emotionally distraught after mine. But I'm glad we got that out of your system.

I thought I set the tone when I played Chrissy Swan's example where she just wasn't going to pack the lunchbox. I know. It's not that deep. It's my own fault. It was clearly top of mind. I'm all for that. If you come to my house, all we have is fake plants.

They're all from Kmart. The only issue you need to be aware of with the fakies is you need to dust them because they get dusty and you just take them out. Oh my God. No, that is quite disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit, it almost looks like they're pollinated.

Like you walk past it and bump it with your bag and then it's like, it looks like a B movie. So just hose them and put them out and give them a little shake. But yeah, I'm all for it. I've got common sense. Thanks for that. No worries. Jenna, anything?

I think mine has to do with work as well and not taking any breaks from work. So I haven't had a holiday in years because I'm always the one to say, oh yeah, I'll take on more responsibility for whoever wants to go away for survey breaks for those in radio. But you know, I shouldn't do that. Yeah, I do remember one time saying to you, oh, how was your Christmas break, Jenna? And you were like, oh, I didn't have one because there was no one

to fill in for me. And I'm like, well, then there's no Facebook posts then, I guess, because that's the company's fault, not yours. Yes, it's true. And, like, even leading back to that last week with COVID, you know, I still worked throughout it because I felt like I should. But why should I if I'm sick? I know.

I know. See that fucking word. It comes back to should every time. It's the should. What's the should? Oh, should. Sorry, I thought that was some sort of meditation word that you both knew from your years of yoga. I thought like S-H-O-U-L-D.

No, I'm saying that people shouldn't be driven by the word should. Like, oh, I should do this. I should do that. Oh, I get you. I get you. It's better if you want to. Oh, no. You know how people are like, oh, there's the ego and then the brogo, whatever it's called.

I thought the should was something else that was a book. Okay. All right. S-H-O-U-L-D. Got it. Got it. You should know that. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. It's the should. All right. Okay, all right. S-H-O-U-L-D. Got it. Got it. You should know that. Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry.

It's the should. All right. Well, I like that. The year of saying no. Just in this next two weeks in Hawaii, anytime I'm offered some sort of food, I'm saying yes, just so everyone knows. Yeah, if you don't actually enjoy something, then don't bother. Amen.

All right. Shall I do my idiom? Yeah, go for it. Is it just me or? Could you not live in a world without small talk? I'm pretty sure I could. Yeah, I think I could. It's nice occasionally, though.

This is why I bring it to you guys, because I feel like you two could easily live in a world without small talk. Me, on the other hand, no, it's like oxygen to me. I need small talk with any person that will listen to me, any of them, because it's so imperative. The reason I ask is because a new study came out this week that suggests we need to stop making small talk with people because it makes us dumber. Yes.

What do they mean by that? Like, how does it achieve that? Okay. So small talk, we all know it's very necessary in conversations. Also, just like with people that you're not very familiar with, small talk just gets you going or gets you into a conversation. But apparently, this is what the paper says. The paper says, conversation is a fundamental human experience, one that is necessary to pursue interpersonal and interpersonalised goals. Therefore,

making the most out of such conversations by asking quality intro and follow-up questions is essential. Small talk is a waste of time, is what this expert is saying. So instead of the mundane, how are you and what do you do? How's the weather's nice? What'd you have for lunch? You should be asking what excites you right now. You should be asking about work and life, their upbringing and hobbies. To a complete stranger. I kind of agree with that because I don't have much patience for small talk. I couldn't live in a world without it. That just sounds sad. We'd all be walking around like fucking we're on Grand Theft Auto.

No one's engaging with each other. Totally. It'd be very dark. Doing that weird prostitute walk. Yeah. With the back. Their arms are really rigid. Yeah, yeah.

It's a very good call. But also I do feel like I kind of like to dive in the deep end a bit. Like if the small talk isn't getting into the nitty gritty like that within 15 to 20 seconds, I give up. I'm happy to sit there in silence. Yes. But if we get there, I'm like, I will absolutely fucking dig and dig. I'd love to send a DNM by accident.

Yes, me too. Well, this expert has given some options as to thought starters. Cut the small talk and start with this. Ready? So they want you to start with, hey, what are you looking forward to? I mean, I'm not going to go to Baker's Delight when I'm trying to get an olive and feta scroll and go, hi, what are you looking forward to? Oh, that's nice that it's your grandma's funeral in a month.

Listen, can I get two feta and olive scrolls? You can't open with that. That's fucking weird. Totally. What about this option? What's the most important thing I should know about you? Oh, that's stalkerish. I don't care about my butcher.

I don't know if this is on the list, but I remember one time I was at a funeral of all places. Oh, dear. And at the wake, this is when I was a kid, I was outside and there was some lady smoking a cigarette. And she's like, how are you, sweetheart? I was like, good, thanks. And the question she asked next, right after how are you, was what would you be doing if you weren't here today? Oh, I like that.

That's a really interesting question. And I was like, I can't remember what the answer probably would be. I'd be at school or something. But I was like, that's a great question. What would you be doing if you weren't here today? I understand having those conversation starters. It's also the same when you're

interviewing people, and I do all the fucking time. When I don't prepare questions, you've seen me, I just flounder and I take about 30 seconds to ask how they are. But those questions actually lead to really interesting conversations. But you also need the small talk to get there, you know? So I've noticed in your interviews when you can't think of a question,

you just don't really ask them a question. You kind of just say things at them. Yeah, it's a statement. I often make statements. You make statements. You're like, oh, it's so good to see you. You've been in the industry so long. Yes, that's true.

I do. I really do. I don't think I've ever asked one question in my entire career. I'm not really an interviewer. Why start now. I more just point things out, don't I? So what else is on the list? Well, that's what I thought. I've got a list of them. Why don't I ring the local business and I see if I can call them without any small talk. Just see how it goes. No, it can't be the first thing you say. It has to be the second. Like that lady with

the diary at the funeral, it was, how are you? And the second question was deep. The first one has to be normal. All right. Well, I think it needs to be like a friend or someone that you do, like because if I call a news agency and I go, what's your dream in life? It doesn't make sense. But if I call someone that we're not a really good friend that knows I'm

joking, but someone in the periphery that thinks, oh, I wonder why he's asking all this, you know? Call contraceptive diaphragm Sam. He hasn't been around for a while. Oh, that's brilliant. Yes. Let's call Sam.

Good call. Now, Mitch, what did you, oh, I just said good call. Shoot me in the fucking thigh. You said it like nine times last week. No, the first couple were intentional and then I had a brain fart and I forgot. All right. Before I hit dial, Mitchell, what was yours? I really liked that one that the lady said.

I don't think the Siggy one will work because the question was, what would you be doing if you weren't here today? And he's not here today. That's true. That's more of a face-to-face one. What would be the most important thing I should know about you is an option. Oh, no, you already know him, so that's weird. What were the others?

What excites you in life right now? That could work or maybe you could rephrase it a bit. Tell me something I would never guess you'd be into. Yeah, do that. That's kind of interesting. I'd never guess. I want to know the answer. Because Sam is such a chameleon, he can have a bitch and a wine with the gays,

and he can have a beer with the boys. He's kind of adaptable. What is your biggest accomplishment this week is good, because we kind of do work together. Throw a few in there. Fuck it. All right, here we go. Calling contraceptive diaphragm, Sam.

No small talk, just a how are you. Hello? Hello, Sam. It's Mitch. Cheery, how are you? I'm fine. Good. Listen, what's your biggest accomplishment this week?

My biggest accomplishment this week? My biggest accomplishment this week? Yeah. I cleaned my house. Oh, my God. That's the whole thing? Yeah, like I did a proper spring clean. I feel very accomplished. Yeah, Hayden and I just got one of those floor mops,

and I would never consider myself a mopper, but now we mop the floors, and it's so satisfying to clean and floorboard. What's that about you, mate? I feel like you know that you've reached a certain age that your teen years are far behind you when you get excited about a mop. I know. It's actually quite depressing, isn't it?

And that is your biggest accomplishment this week. Yeah, I feel very accomplished. Tell me something I'd never guessed that you'd be into. Why are you asking this? I'm just asking. What would shock me that you're into? I really like American football, but I only watch it around Super Bowl time.

But I get really into it for like a week. I did know that. I actually did know that about you. And I also know you love the commentary and the theater of it all. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What do you have to look forward to in the near future? Why do I feel like I'm on a job interview?

No, you're on the podcast. Mitch and Jen are here. Why? Okay, no, no, no. You have to explain this to me now. Why? Because apparently these are the questions that people should be asking in lieu of small talk. And I did worry about that, that it would catch people off guard.

It's too deep, too quick. Yeah, there's a professor in the U.S. that wants to end small talk for good, and these are the suggestions that they've provided. I feel like it's the way you phrase it, though. If you were to say, oh, I'm really into this kind of thing, what's a random thing that you're into, I feel like I wouldn't have clocked it. But it was the way that you said it, it was a bit like in a therapy session. Okay, yes.

Yeah, I feel like that was actually more awkward than small talk because every question you asked, there was 10 to 20 seconds of Sam going, ah. Yeah. And whenever Sam finished you asked, there was 10 to 20 seconds of Sam going, ah. Yeah. And whenever Sam finished his answer, there was silence. No, I do love a bit of small talk. More of that. See, you need it.

I tried to not do it and you need it. No, small talk is in. In. Thank you, Sam. Okay. See you guys. Bye, bub. Bye.

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love them dearly. Absolutely appreciate it but yeah, people must listen at all hours, all different time zones. Yeah, true. True. All right. Well, today we have joining us from Hobart, the wonderful Jack. Hello, Jack. Hello. Hello, darling. How are you? I'm good. How are you guys?

Would you say younger Jack would be proud of the Jack that lives and breathes now? Oh, my God. You're touching on really sensitive topics now. I think so. Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. Now, Jack, when you hear the full episode, you'll just cack yourself laughing.

It'll make sense. That'll be hilarious in a couple of days. Yeah. Now, tell us, how long have you been listening to the show, Jackie? Honestly, not that long. Probably about four or five months. Oh, I love fresh meat. I know, but I've been going through old episodes in between the new uploads,

which has been good. But honestly, I love the show. And it's probably the first podcast I've actually listened to, other than the Australian True Crime one which I feel like that's everyone's first what a compliment I've only listened to

Jack the Ripper's podcast and yours that's lovely is True Crime not for you did you actually like that first podcast you heard yeah no I do like True Crime

you did wow yeah I can't get amongst it oh I love it oh you would it's so good of course you would

you love anything that's about you the Australian one oh do you like Case File? No, never heard of it. Oh, that's the big one. Oh, okay. Sorry. No, you're fine. Check it out. We're in the same boat, Jack. I don't fucking know what they're talking about either. We need you to give us an Is It Just You of your own. Do you have one you're brewing on? Yes, I do. Yes. right, hit it, Bradley.

Is it just me or...? Did your parents tell you little white lies as a kid that you've grown up as an adult and believed and then told to other adults in your life only to be embarrassed that they're not true? Oh, no. Fuck me. Are you that kid on the ad that was told, oh, the Great Wall of China was to keep the

rabbits there? Yeah. Is that you, Jack? It was funny. When I sent in my pigeon, I was thinking about that ad. I was like, actually, it kind of reminds me of that. But it's literally like that. Well, what lies have you been told?

Okay. Well, a very particular incident that has honestly traumatized me. Shout out to Lockie, who actually recommended this podcast. Lockie, you're a fucking champion. Anyway, I was at his house, at his parents' house, and they have horses. And we're just sitting there on the veranda, you know, very picturesque in the countryside. And I see one of the horses, like, lay down on the ground or whatever they do. Yes.

And I turn to him and I'm like, there's something wrong with your horse. Your horse, like, can't get back up. And he's like, what are you going on about? And I'm like, well, no. Like, once a horse sits down, it can't get back up easily. Like, it will die. He's like, what? He's like thinking.

And then, anyway, the horse, I think, ended up getting back up. And they just, like, made fun of me, Lockie and his parents. You're like, fuck me, Lock like thinking. And then anyway, the horse, I think, ended up getting back up and they just like made fun of me, Lockie and his parents. You're like, fuck me, Lockie. Where's the crane? Yeah. No, literally, I was like so worried. I was like, oh, the poor horse.

Like there's something on the horse. But I was told as a kid by my dad, because I asked him, I go, why do horses sleep standing up? Because like, that's what they do. And he goes, oh, well, because once they get back down, they can't get back up again. Oh, my gosh. And I've just like, I've And he goes, oh, well, because once they get back down, they can't get back up again. Oh, my gosh. And I've just been like, oh, okay. I probably heard that when I was six or something.

I've just gone on in my life and just believed that. Maybe your dad actually believes that to be true. Maybe someone else told him that. It sounds like- I did ask him and he goes, I don't remember telling you that. And I was like, that's a lie. Well, I have one. I remember that.

I've got a few, actually. I was gaslit hard by my parents. Jack, you're really bringing it back. My mum would say that if you ate watermelon seeds that you would get pregnant. Pregnant? Yeah. As a man. As a man.

Yep. They also said if you would, remember this? Maybe this was just my family. Is it just me? Or reading in the dark will ruin your eyes? Yeah. You ever get that? Yeah, I got told that.

Yeah, I've heard that before. What about carrots give you better eyesight? Oh, yeah. Bullshit. I eat a lot of carrots and I don't know who's sitting across from me right now. What about like crust? Like how crust gives you curly hair? Yes.

Oh, my God. I remember I used to love Crust and then when I hit like 15, I got pubes. I'm like, it's true. It's true. Were there any other things that your lying, deceitful father told you, Jack? Well, yeah, there is actually. My dad works at TAFE, which is like an education thing. Yeah, we love TAFE.

Is that like nationwide? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to TAFE, though. Anyway. I went to TAFE. Well is like an education thing. Yeah, we love TAFE. Is that like nationwide? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to TAFE, though. Anyway. Yeah, I went to TAFE. Well, there you go. But we're in like one of the workshop things and like under fluorescent light, sometimes like concrete sparkles.

Have you noticed that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you mean. Like in glitters? Yeah, yeah, I get you. Yeah. Like in warehouses and shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I vividly remember this. We're walking downstairs and I'm like, oh, Dad, why is there glitter in the concrete? And he's like, oh, it's like people's fingernails and toenails, they fall off and then they get caught in the light. Ew. What? I don't remember the last time my fucking toenail clippings were twinkling. Where's the logic in that?

No, mine. I've got to grow it up and then be like, that is not true. So you sussed that one out yourself. You didn't have to have someone who did it. No, no, that was definitely one that I probably got to my up and then be like, that is not true. So you sussed that one out yourself. You didn't have to have someone embarrass you, surely. That was definitely one that I probably got to my teens. One just hit me. That's not true. One just hit me.

This is true and I'm embarrassed and I've never said this before. I don't even think I've told you. You know, sometimes if you tell each other stories, you're like, you've told me that yesterday. Well, spit it out for God's sake. I'll tell you if I've heard it. Sorry. My dad told me, I asked him point blank how a baby's made, and he said, you were but a twinkle in my eye,

which I now know means it's just some fucking Disney rhyme, you know. But I thought that meant that his cum was in his eye. No, you didn't. Yep, I thought sperm. Well, it happens. I thought, we've all been there, right, Jackie? That would fucking hurt. No, I thought, like, that's where sperm was held.

That was like the... In your eyes. Yeah, I thought they were the balls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? And how would you ejaculate from your eyes exactly? Crying? Ew.

Stop it. God. Funerals would be like a fucking bakaaki party. Oh, my God. Stop it. I want to get you wet. I'll put on Marley and me. That's awful.

Sorry, Jack, that we took that route. And you're from Hobart, too. You wouldn't be loving it with all the incest of it all, you know. Oh, yeah. My second head. Yeah, well, Jack, what's your Instagram? You did ask to plug it. Give it a quick plug.

Oh, jk.cst. That's also my IP address, I think. What is it? jk.CST. That's also my IP address, I think. What is it? JK.CST. What's the CST stand for? Jack Costello. I just tried to keep it really short, you know,

so if I'm drunk and out and I'm doing my promotional activities when you're drunk. It's a lot of letters to try and slur when you're drunk, though. You'd have to be like C for carrot, S for Sarah, T for tango. I love that Jack came on and plugged his Instagram. No one's ever done that before. Yeah, I'm surprised not many other people do that anyway. Who are we to stop you? Go for it.

Yeah. All right. Jack, pleasure to have you on, everyone. Jack.CST on Instagram. Producer Jenna. Producer Jenna? Not your name. Proud Keeper Jenna. Can you please send a prize out? Not even Grounds Keeper. You got that on, everyone. Jack.CST on Instagram. Producer Jenna. Producer Jenna? Not your name. Proud Keeper Jenna.

Can you please send a prize out? Not even Grounds Keeper. You got that wrong too. Sorry, I've got Hawaii brain. Jack, I'm going to Hawaii on Saturday. Oh, have fun. Thank you so much. Hayden made that at all.

Jack and Hayden and I are going to cry on each other the whole trip. Oh. Tell them any chance. Hopefully. Ruined such a nice interaction for Jack. Never meet your heroes, that's what they say. See you, Jack. Bye, Jack.

No worries, Jackie. See you. What a sweetheart. Love you, darling. Mitchell cut his Instagram handle reference from the podcast. How dare he? Use our platform. Nah, it's his airtime.

He can do what he wants with it. Yeah, good call. For the record, at Mitchell Coons, one word is my handle. Yes, at Mitch Turi on Instagram is my handle. Mine is Jenna. We've run out of time, unfortunately. We're out of time, sadly. All right, should we do Jenna's Junk?

We've got to do a bit of a cleanse before our Easter break. Yes, let's dive on in, everyone. Let's take a peek at Jenna's Junk, shall we? Yeah, Jenna's Junk is where all of our shit ideas go to die. As you know, we kick off every episode of this podcast with an Is It Just Me? each, and if we think of one but it's a bit boring, we'll go, nah, toss it aside, and then eventually we will stick a fist in Jenna's Junk. Yeah.

Just for fun. I feel privileged to be able to see Jenna's Junk up close and personal. It's full. I can imagine. Yeah. But that's just how she likes it, isn't it, junk up close and personal. It's full. I can imagine. Yeah. But that's just how she likes it, isn't it, Jenna? Yeah, yeah. Nice and full.

That's why the house got broken into. They were searching for the junk. No, we've not entered your junk in quite some time, have we? No. No, nobody's entered my junk for a while. Really? Yeah. All right.

So we'll just be, we'll take it slow. Yeah. Just see how it goes. Okay, we can. She's out of practice. She is. Oh, God. She was quick to jump in.

God, there's more juice than usual in the junk today. What's that smell? Sorry. Someone eating Camembert. Sorry about that. Anyway, anyway. Yeah. What do you found in there?

Oh, God. Okay. Is it just me or do you miss touching the hands of customer service workers? Listen. What the fuck? There's no way I put that in the junk. No. Listen, I know my idjims for the last 17 weeks have been McDonald's drive-thru related, but

this is real. Funny that this didn't make the main show. I had three customer service themed idjims that were good enough to be on the main show. What was it about this that wasn't worth actually running and it was more junk? Okay, so I'm in my one coffee a day era. And when I have to go to work early, I don't have time to make it at home. So I go through Macca's drive-thru. So I do this twice a week.

I get a long black from Macca's and it's good. I mean, such a habit of just like pay passing and go. I do this twice a week. I get a long black from Macca's and it's good. I'm in such a habit of just like pay passing and go. Anyway, when we moved, Hayden and I found like a coin jar that we had and we like in the old house, we just put away and we have like, you know, a couple hundred bucks in gold coins. So I just put a handful in a Ziploc and now it's in my car and I'm like, I'll just use

it for Macca's. So I get to the drive-thru and I'm like, oh my God, I have coins for once. And the little brittle 16 year old kid put out that paddle pop stick with the F-Pos machine on the end of it. And I just pushed it away and something came over me. I had the $2 coin in my fingertips. You know, when you hold coins and you've got to like,

you don't want them to drop. So you like kind of doing that, that machine claw hand thing. And you kind of like, Oh yeah. Just like this. Yeah. You sort of push it into their palm.

Yes. Yes. And then she put her hand out and it was like that painting in the Louvre of Jesus touching the other finger. I don't know who's doing it. But we touched and we shared a connection very, very similar to when the Avatar things fuck with their tails. And I put this money in her hand and it was so dry.

As someone who's never seen Avatar, what? Oh, you need to watch it because they fuck with their tails and that is true. Jenny, you've seen it. Well, I'm sold. You know how much I love fucking with tails. Their tails have tentacles in them and their tails. Have neither of you ever seen James Cameron's Avatar? No.

No. Oh, come on. The tails fuck and that's how they have sex. And also, that's how they ride animals. It's disgusting. So they fuck with their little blue tails. But also, they're like, why don't we ride this, you know, air horse? And then they put their tail in the horse's tail and it goes.

I'm getting it up. Sorry. Fuck the drive-thru. I bet you're getting it up. You're getting your tail up, are you? Well. I don't want to search avatar sex. Oh, I've already done it at home.

Oh, have you? Oh, that's weird. Ready? Watch Jenna. Oh, no. Oh. Wait, is that their tail or their hair? Well, it's their hair.

It's actually their ponytails, which is also their tail, I believe. God, imagine if I could fuck with my ponytail That'd be fascinating Oh God, poor Sean Anyway, if you've got coins I urge you to put them in the palm of a retail worker's hands And you'll feel like we're in yesteryear again But don't they get a little bit caught off guard

When you're not paying with card Because now they used to ask cash or card But now they just go, yep, ready to tap. Yeah, she hated it. She didn't know what was going on. She was like, oh, she'd bitten to it because it was so close to Easter. She thought it was a gold choccy coin. I went, no, you fucking kid. That's real money.

Sorry, random side note. Did I tell you that Sean was in a Macca's ad when he was a teenager? What? It's the funniest thing. I want to see it. I need to see this. So, if you look up on YouTube, it's a 16 second video and it's just

Love My Savings account. That's what the video is called. Okay. Oh my God. Oh my God. Look at him. He's the one that's the first in line. At only $1.95 you won't need to dip into The funniest part about that ad is that you hear him go, thanks heaps. But apparently that was not in the script.

He just can't bring himself to not use his manners. So it was meant to be a non-speaking role. And so he's given his change. They touch his hand and he goes, thanks heaps. So this is quite a few years old and yet they are, you Thanks, heaps. Heaps. You're welcome. At only $1.95. So this is quite a few years old and yet they are, you know, touching hands in the ad. Wow.

There you go, guys. Interesting. Touch your hand and it'll make your day. Yeah. That's a walk away, take away from that. Okay, I'm back in this. No wasting time. I'm back in.

Oh, okay. Is it just me or? It's breeie cheese now. How good's a spare bed? That's mine. I put that in there. Oh, I agree. Elaborate on that.

Oh, well, I just remember when I was house hunting not long ago, it was like my dream to have a spare room with a spare bed. That, in my mind, was the definition of I've fucking made it. Like, I'm an adult now. Mum and dad can come and stay when they please. My friends can crash. in my mind was the definition of I've fucking made it. Like I'm an adult now. Mum and dad can come and stay when they please. My friends can crash. Obviously the rental crisis meant that I did not achieve that.

However, I did buy a blow-up mattress and whenever my friend Oscar needs to crash, I'll blow up the mattress. Once he goes home, I leave that thing up for a good couple of days because I just love crashing in front of the telly on a spare mattress. And I've had some of the best nights sleep of my life on the spare mattress. Is this a fun novelty about it not being my normal bed? Yep. I'm with you. I'm so with you.

I love it. In our new house, we have a spare room and it's- Oh, shut up. No, no, no. There's two incomes, so it's different, you know? Yeah, true. I couldn't afford it on my own in this fucking market. Anyway, it's the back of the house.

So it gets all the afternoon sun where our bedroom gets the morning sun. Oh, that's perfect. I leave for work sometimes at like three in the afternoon. I'm like, after I've done some errands and I come home, I have a shower, then I'll make a coffee before I leave for work. And then I'll just sit in that back room in the spare room. And the sun is hitting the bed. And there's something about the bed.

The bed's always clean because someone's not sleeping in it every night. Yeah, true. So the sheets are always crisp and fresh. And it's like, oh, there's something about this. I love it so much. I'm with you. Oh, God. One of my old apartments a couple of years ago had a west-facing window,

and I had the afternoon sun come in. Oh, me and Isabella had some of the best naps in that afternoon sun. Oh, God, I miss having west-facing windows. I can imagine. I have a west-facing window. Of course you do. Shut up, Jenna. Well, no, that's the one the criminal came in, so.

No, it actually is. I think Mitch and I are the lucky ones, yeah? It's now got bars on it, unfortunately. It does. Riddled with Crimsafe these days. Is it just me, or do you put off making phone calls? Oh, that's also me. I'm a bit embarrassed by this because I fucking know that it's easier to cut to the chase with a phone call rather than waiting for a text reply or an email reply or whatever.

And yet if I have to do it, I'll put it off for ages. It'll be on my to-do list for days. Now, I love making phone calls because I'm the one that is deciding to do it and I'm in the mood to do it. But I do not like accepting phone calls if I'm not in the headspace. I'm not talking about friends and shit. Like friends, no worries. I'm talking about phone calls you have to make. I will literally go to a different medical centre if I need a GP appointment

because they do online bookings because I can't be fucked making the phone call. Yeah. I'm the same. I'm all about phone calls. I love it so much. I'm immediate, you know. I demand. I'm a coward when it comes to a phone call. Yeah, I'm the same. I'm all about phone calls. I love it so much. I'm immediate. You know, I demand, I'm a carrot when it comes to a phone call. Oh God, I put it off for so long. I was so embarrassed the other day. I had call hairdresser on my to-do list for four days. I just kept putting it off and off every day. I'm like, no, I don't have the brain real estate to

make that phone call today. Once I finally mustered up the courage to make that phone call, I ended the call, looked at the phone. It was a fucking 19-second phone call. Yeah, see? And I'd put it off for four days. Speaking of, do you have a good to-do list? I need a good to-do list app. Do people have apps?

I just do it in my phone notes because I realise that on the notes you can now do a checklist. There's a little icon there with the tick. So I still get the thrill of ticking it off. You're kidding. I never kid. When do I kid? Very true.

He never kids. Famously never. I really want one. It's probably an off-the-cloud discussion. Hey, if there's a fancier to-do list app, fucking let us know, idiots. Yeah, please. I need it, guys. Yeah.

Moving on. No time to continue discussing that rhythm. It's really full. I'm sorry. Oh, you fit your whole fist, Jenna. Good girl. Thank you. Thank you. Is it just me or does nobody care about your wedding hashtag? I mean, for fuck's sake. No one uses it. Not one person. No one puts up a photo on their grid of your wedding day. I can't believe I've actually been to a wedding that has a hashtag.

All the weddings I go to, and maybe it's because I'm from the Shire, which is a very basic white part of Sydney, but these white heterosexual couples love a fucking hashtag. I think it's so that if they want to see their guest photos, they can look at that hashtag. So it's not with the intent of going viral. It's just to collate all the photos together. But you're right. I don't know who's actually using it. All right, Mitchell, give me two random couples, and I'm going to search that hashtag right now,

and we're going to see what friends get married. What about, like, Jade and Tim? Hashtag Jade. Oh, here we go. Jade and Tim's wedding 2016 comes up when I search it. Fewer than 100 posts. Oh, my God, guys. We've got Jade and Tim's wedding.

What is it? Jade on Instagram. Hashtag Jade and Tim's wedding 2016. It says it's 58 posts. There's Jade. Oh, Jade. Oh, Jade's big day. Jade's big day.

She looks phenomenal. And did Jade's friend post this? Tracy, 42 posted that. Oh, see, people use it. Yeah. Okay. You's friend post this? Tracy 42 posted that. Oh, see, people use it. Yeah. Okay. You know, I'm going to follow that hashtag. I've just hit follow.

I'm really happy for them. Jade and Tim. I hope they're doing well. Yeah, see, now put yourself. If you were fucking Jade or Tim, you would love going and looking at this hashtag and seeing what everyone's up to. Good call. Yeah.

You know what? Good call. Fair call. Fair call. That is very true. Yeah, that's up to. Good call. You know what? Good call. Fair call. Fair call. That is very true. Yeah, that's really it. All right, back in the dunk. Back in.

Yeah, that's dirty. That's really your fault. You say that as if we've done it. Sorry. Okay, whatever. Is it just me or should everyone have a herb garden? It's another way of me. I've already vowed in this episode to not be a pot plant gay, so.

Nah, just you. So easy to use. I have a herb garden now. Name a herb, Jenna. Basil. Got it. Mitch, name a herb. I don't know.

Don't have that one. Oregano. Got it. Coriander. Yep. Parsley. Continental. Really? Mm-iander. Yep. Parsley. Continental. Really?

Mm-hmm. We've got a chilli plant. What about the car Herbie fully loaded? No, I don't have that. That's a fucking herb. I don't have the room in the garden for a herb. Herbie to his friends. No, yes.

I've got a herb garden, and it's just so nice. This morning I made a coffee, and I was out the back in my pyjamas watering my herb garden. Oh, my God. Drinking my coffee. It was beautiful. We have spoken about this before, and I was out the back in my pyjamas watering my herb garden. Oh, my God. Drinking my coffee. It was beautiful. We have spoken about this before and I said the same thing. I can't believe we're having this conversation at this age.

Yeah. It's really quite depressing. And now that you've got the theatre of the mind with the pyjamas in the backyard, I'm like, oh, wow, in your unit? I'm like, fuck, you really are 60 years old, aren't you? I know. I know Hayden was working from home on the back table and I said, are you using a coaster?

He said, yes. Have you using a coaster? He said yes. Have you got a photo of this bloody herb garden that I keep hearing about? I texted to you, Mitchell. Oh, okay. There's no need to raise your voice at me, mate. Anyway, get a herb garden. Tell me though, tell me, is it very consistent? Like all the herbs need the same amount of water, same soil, same exposure to sun.

Like not one of them, one of them is not going to die because you did something wrong. No, exactly. They'll all live. Are they kind of cute to look of them's not going to die because you did something wrong. No, exactly. They'll all live. Are they kind of cute to look at though? What does it look like? A herb garden? It's all very green. They look cute though.

But the thing is I'm not attached to them and I haven't made them my personality. It's more so just. Well, you've brought it up twice in the podcast. Is this the second time? Yeah. And I did say that. What day is it? Next time you come over to my house and you enjoy a rigatoni and you go,

God, it tastes fresh, I'll go, yeah, because that was grown with my own blood, sweat and tears. Have you ever actually used your own herbs in cooking? Not once, never. Okay. Is it just me or do you buy two of everything when you're doing groceries? Oh, yeah, that's me. Explain.

Well, I fucking hate running out of stuff. And so, especially in the bathroom, I've got a storage tub under my actual bathroom cabinet, which is the spare of everything. So once I have to reach into that and pick out the spare, it goes on the shopping list and I'll get two toothpaste, two mouthwash, two of literally everything. And it saves my ass because I hate running out of shit. That's just genius. That's really smart.

I have only recently started doing that because I've realised how grumpy I get when I'm out of something. It really fucks me off. So now I've got two. I've got backups. And you're right. It changes your life. I mean, not for everything.

I don't have a backup Hyundai, just in case. But it's like for shampoos and for toothpastes and rice. But I feel like there's two types of people in the world because Sean's the opposite. He has got in his shower so many empty fucking bottles. So he runs out. Not only does he not replace it, he doesn't even remove it. And so I was having a shower at his place and I like came out of the shower and I said to him, which one of these bottles is soap? Because none of them even said soap. It was all really vague shit like body milk and all this shit. And it was all empty anyway. I was like, I'm so confused. There was no dishwashing liquid, no brand. I was like, if something runs out, aren't you not compelled to replace it?

He's just so unfazed. Yeah. I'm like that as well. Really? No, I have to get rid of it. Jesus Christ, I can't live like that. No, I've got a lot of shampoo and conditioner. Don't you need order in your life?

No. Jenna. I get so excited when I run out of something because I'm like, I've got a spare. That's smart. No, I don't. I can't believe Sean, considering he's an actor and he's been in published commercials, that shocks me. Well, considering that he's quite meticulous and crisp in every other way, I can't believe

he's so slack when it comes to products and shit. Oh, shit. What? It's Tones and I. What? Tones and I's here. I'm about to interview Tones and I. Oh. She's running early. Tones and I. What? Tones and I's here. I'm about to interview Tones and I. Oh.

She's running early. Tones and I's here, everyone. Put her on. No, we're going to have to get out of here. Sorry, guys. No, we'll come back. Do your interview and we'll come back. FYI, Tones running early.

I dare you to leave my fader up the whole time and just during your interview, I'll just randomly laugh. Last time we had to do that. Where the fuck is that coming from? No. We did that with five seconds of summer and that was when Jenna was in a bin and we didn't have enough time to get her out. So Jenna, I interviewed five seconds of summer while Jenna was hiding in a wheelie bin. Oh, yeah, no, because this was a Zoom interview and the output, so what they were seeing on their end, on their laptop was you.

And just to fuck with you, I went outside and switched the output to Jenna in the bin for like five seconds to see, for five seconds of summer, if you like, to see if they'd react. And they didn't, which is quite disappointing. Just imagine being there on a Zoom interview with a radio station and it cuts to a woman in a bin. You look like a raccoon. I've got to go.

Sorry, Tones is here. So I'm going to take a little break. We'll be back. All right. Sorry. Sorry, Tones is here. So I'm going to take a little break. We'll be back. All right. Sorry. Back, everybody. Yep. Now with Tones and I.

She was actually lovely. So was I. They were really, they, she was very sweet. Truly. I'd never met her, but. Really? Hadn't you? No, but that's what she said.

She said in the car ride over. She's like, I'm so excited because she feels like we've had such good interviews. And then they're like, you've never met Mitch. And she was shocked too. Yeah, I was going to say, it's not your first time interviewing her, but face to face. First time face to face. You know what she said? Right, gotcha.

She said, can you keep up the Hayden content? She finds it hilarious on my Instagram. Oh, cute. What, you just tormenting your gay factor? Yeah. Cute. Yeah, she loves the Hayden content, so I'll get back to ridiculing him. Jess Malboy didn't say that last week when I spoke to her, homophobic.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I notice, no, actually I won't say that. No saying. No, I can't. Do it. It's so rude. What is it?

Have you noticed that Jess Malboy says a lot of fucking words but doesn't say anything? Yeah. She beats around the bush. She's beautiful. Oh, I love her. Can I just say that's a great thing for someone who is interviewing her to have because sometimes you talk to people and they just stop talking. But Jess, you ask her the time and you end up on geopolitical conflicts

in Ukraine. What about the listener who are like, where is she going with this? Did you hear my interview with her? I saw a little bit on Instagram, but I was more referring to her on the Australian Idol finale. Okay, what happened? She just went round in circles and was saying all this vague shit and it made no sense.

Yeah. She's passionate. Anyway, Jenna, back into the junk, please. No, no, there's no more. Oh, you're done? Yeah. Oh, well, why did we bother pausing the whole show? We were out of junk anyway.

We can move on. Sorry. Is it just me? Make sure you leave a review on your podcast app. If you don't, you're a little bitch. Okay, a couple of weeks ago on the show, we started something new. Mitch and I decided to chat pop culture moments that live rent-free inside your

head. I've got many, many, many stored up in here for no good reason. It's wasting good brain real estate. Exactly. That's why we talk about it because these are things that take up space in our brain. We really wish they didn't, but they're those thoughts that pop into your mind when you're driving and you just laugh. Remember when Wendy Williams collapsed on set

dressed as the Empire State Building? No, the Statue of Liberty. The Statue of Liberty. And she just mid-monologue collapsed. Took her about nine minutes to fall to the ground. And she's okay, by the way. I actually think it was faked. But that's an example of pop culture moments that live rent-free

in my head. I will never forget that moment. Yeah, I did one a couple of weeks ago. It's your turn, Darl. My turn. I've got three. I've collated three. They will never forget that moment. Yeah, I did one a couple of weeks ago. It's your turn, Darl. My turn. I've got three. I've collated three. They're all kind of similar, but to be honest with you,

I'm going to start with something that is similar to the Wendy Williams situation. Tyra Banks. This was an iconic moment from America's Next Top Model. Tyra Banks decides to create the ultimate drama. This was at the height of when reality shows were really starting to catch on. She's having a conversation with some of the contestants, and to keep the drama at an all-time high, she decides to pass out,

except she fakes it. Was that fake? I've seen the video of Tyra Banks fainting. I didn't realise she faked it. She pretends. It's in Season 6, Episode 6. They were doing improv classes at the Groundlings Theatre in LA, which is where I've studied, by the way.

I've been there, of course, famously. Tyra comes to visit the girls, but he's acting exhausted. So she's coming in and she's going, I'm so tired ahead of this challenge, and everyone believes her. And then she pretends to fall to the ground to teach them how to improvise i've got the audio it's very oh my god listen to this i've been working so hard i'm so tired you guys so i'm so sorry you guys i don't mean to be all weak in front of you but i'm just so light-headed she stands up oh my god

that's her pole take her pole i'm all right today you guys gotta learn about that thing. Learn about that thing. I love everyone going, Tyra. Tyra. Please. Fuck. I was today years old when I found out that she was acting.

I've seen that in the form of a meme many times. I thought it was just over the top like Wendy in a way. Fuck, and she was faking it. Have you seen on TikTok that a lot of people are saying that, God, America's Got Talent, not America's Got Talent, America's Next Top Model has not aged well. Like it was a really fucking toxic show. Yeah. Anyway, let's move on to number two.

Hilary Duff. We all know and love Hilary Duff. Of course. Of course. Lizzie McGuire. The best. Like a noughties legend. Like she was big in the 2000s.

Her and Gordie. God, I wanted them to fuck. I wonder if they ever did. They would have if Disney had let it go ahead. Good call, actually. Yeah, they would have fucked and she would have been like, you're gay, Junie. What's his name? Rudy.

Cool. Gordy, sorry, sorry. Remember they were going to do a reboot and then Disney pulled the pin on it. Actually, no, Hilary pulled the pin on it because she was doing a reboot of Lizzie McGuire in her 30s and basically Hilary Duff wanted Lizzie McGuire to be a huge slut and Disney were like, no, no, that's not family friendly. And she goes, bro, she's 30 now. She's a whore.

It's fine. And so, yeah, no, they clashed and it never went ahead. Well, listen, Hilary's been in films and TV shows for quite a while, but one lesser known gig that Hilary did was she ended homophobia. Oh, my God, I know what this is. That's not lesser known. This is the best thing she's ever done. This is her magnum opus.

In 2008, Hillary Duff ended homophobia. She teamed up with a campaign that was put on by the American government. It was called Knock It Off. That's what the campaign was called. This was at the time when everyone would use, oh, that's so gay, just casually in conversation. Everyone in school, I remember it, they'd use it to describe a bad thing. And so Hilary Duff put a fucking stop to that herself.

She did. The government, sorry, the initiative was called Think Before You Speak. Wanda Sykes was in it. They were trying to champion LGBTQIA awareness around how you talk about your queer friends. Anyway, this is the commercial that Hillary starred in. Think before you speak. Do you like this top?

It's so gay. Yeah, it's totally gay. You know, you really shouldn't say that. Say what? Well, say that something's gay when you mean it's bad. It's insulting. What if every time something was bad, everybody said, that's so girl wearing a skirt as a top.

Oh, you are. Those are cute jeans, though. When you say that's so gay, do you realise what you say? Knock it off. What? That's my favourite part. Knock it off. Ended homophobia in 46 seconds.

And then she went to bed that night and goes, right, what'll I end tomorrow? Truly. I read somewhere that the night before Summer Bin Laden was killed, she actually thought, I'm going to stop him tomorrow. That's what I've heard. Okay, number one. This is some Australian culture that I think has gone global.

Back to America's Next Top Model. Think back to the days when Australia's Next Top Model was on our TVs. Oh, I know this one. I didn't have Foxtel, so I never actually got to watch it. Yes, well, this was massive. People really got around this show, and it was really big. They'd win $100,000. They got a Harper's Bazaar cover shoot, a modelling contract.

They won a lot. And Sarah Murdoch was the host of this season. This was a live finale in front of an audience of 2,000 people. There were two people in the finale, two people up to win. This was the moment where they'd got the final votes. And Sarah has an earpiece in and she's clearly gone. The winner is. Then they feed her who the winner is.

She gets it wrong and says the wrong winner instead of the real winner. Surely everyone's seen this. This is brilliant. Have a listen. And Australia's next top model for 2010 is... It's you, Kelsey. Kelsey goes crazy. She's thanking her family. Her mum and dad are in the audience crying.

As she thanks them, Sarah's hand goes to her ear. Oh, my God. I don't know what to say right now. I'm feeling a bit sick about this. No. Oh, no. I'm so sorry about this. Oh, my God.

I don't know what to say. This is not, this was a complete accident. I'm so sorry. It's Amanda. I'm so sorry. It was fed to me wrong. It's all right. It's okay, sir.

Oh, God. It's okay. This is what happens when you have live TV, folks. I'm so sorry. It's okay. This is insane. Insane, insane, insane. It's fine.

Don't worry. How on earth could this happen? It's okay. Oh, my goodness. It's insane, insane. It's fine. Don't worry. How on earth could this happen? It's okay. It's an honest mistake. It's fine. It's all right. It goes on and on and on. I'm cutting it here.

Oh, my God. That was handled terribly, by the way. That was horrific. How the fuck is it that the chick who thought she won and then ended up being told that she hadn't won was the one consoling everyone else? Yeah. It's okay. It's okay. It's like, no, you're the one consoling everyone else. Yeah. Going, it's okay.

It's okay. It's like, no, you're the one that should be having a hissy fit right now. Being like, what the fuck? I was robbed. I just can't handle how badly she... If you were the production crew, no one would ever know that you fucked up. Just give it to the other girl. It doesn't matter. No one knows who those two people are anyway.

See, whatever happened to the envelope? That's part of the excitement of live TV when they open the big envelope and the winner is. Yeah, very true. Anyway, that's, I mean, truly iconic. Yeah, that's not going anywhere. You'll never forget that despite your issues with your brain. No, truly.

No, I'll remember that constantly for the rest of my life. True. That's my biggest nightmare, hosting award shows. Goodness me. Remember the podcast awards? Jenna, were you there? No. Oh my God. Forgot Sandra Sally's name. Remember the podcast awards? Jenna, were you there? No. Oh, my God.

Forgot Sandra Salley's name. Almost called her Tracy Grimshaw. Oh, no. That wouldn't have gone down well. Thank God she was plastered. Weren't you just reading a script, though? No, no. Okay, never, ever accept that gig again.

Anything where you're required to remember names. It was off the cuff. It was truly awful. Hold on. All right. Shall we head out of here, guys? Last episode. By the way, shit yarn.

I nearly called her Tracy Grimshaw, but I didn't. Why are we talking about it? Let's go. We're going to be off for a couple weeks, but when we return, we'll be rearing and ready to go, well-rested, happy and here. Have a gorgeous Easter, won't you, idiots? Yes. Hope the Easter Bunny joins you and you have a great Easter

and look after yourself, Jenna and Mitch, and I'll be back in touch in a couple of weeks. All right, hold on. I'm just Googling how to say goodbye in Hawaiian. Oh, beautiful. Give me a sec. Oh, it's also aloha. Is it?

Oh. Aloha. Aloha. All right, well, aloha, Mitch. It's kind of like bula. It's just a general salutation. Yeah, it is right, well, aloha, Mitch. It's kind of like boola. It's just a general salutation. Yeah, it is. All right, aloha, mahalo.

See you soon, guys. Aloha, bitch. Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of Mitches. Make sure you've hit follow on your podcast app. Welcome to AD Debrief. This is our secret segment on the end. We pretend the podcast is over, but it ain't. We talk shit here, nothing planned.

No one's bringing anything in particular to the table. We just fucking wing it for a bit. Truly, nothing is planned at all. No, nothing. Not the slightest, everybody. Not at all. Certainly not Jenna's pregnancy. That's not planned. No, no, that wasn't planned. Well, we should announce that. Jenna thought she'd get a COVID test. And we all thought she did too and she was isolating. And then she said, God, winging on it was the hardest part. And we said, what? She said, but winging on the test was the hardest part. And we said, no, Jenna, what you've done is a

pregnancy test. Yeah, that's not a COVID test. So she's expecting. Yeah. Twins, yeah. Twins, yeah. Phineas and Ferb. Bill and Ben, the flowerpot men. Don't expect me to visit. No, no, no. I'm off pot plants. Jade and Tim.

Jade and Tim. Well, they can't get married. No, they can't. No, they can't. It's Jade and Tim's christening hashtag taken. Gender reveal. I haven't been to a good wedding in ages, by the way. Mitch, can you and Hayden stop fucking about? Yeah, please.

It's been so long. A lot of people have been saying that. I've already picked out my flower girl dress. Oh, really? Yeah. What's it going to be? Well, I can't show you. Don't I get to pick my flower girl things? Nah, I've got it

sorted. Really? Yeah. Don't I get to pick everything? Oh, wait, no. Wait, Gina's flower girl. I'm best man. Yeah, I'm the flower girl. Yeah. Mitchell is in the party with my two sisters. Hang the fuck on. Am I not the best man anymore?

Because you told me, oh God, it was probably a couple of years ago on the podcast. I think it might have even been that episode that we did where we were in isolation for Easter. Do you remember that? Yeah. Were you at Bougainvillea? No, it was just COVID and we couldn't go home for Easter. So we did an Easter episode where we're all from home. And you told me that I would be the best man because I'm organised as fuck.

You are actually. Yeah, I stand by that. Look, I don't rescind that at all. Yeah. You'd be in charge of the party and you'd be heading up my two sisters. But the thing is now I have to invite my brother-in-law, which I actually like. I really like him.

But he invited me, so now by law I have to invite him. Yeah. Also my cousin Drew. That doesn't mean he's the best one. No, he's not going to be the best man. He'll be a groomsman. Yeah. He'll be my bitch.

If you're asked, he will be your bitch. If you're asked to be in someone's party, do you then have to respond and offer them the same role? I mean, really, it's up to you. Obviously, I've never been fucking married. I know. Did you wonder? I know. But I guess you'd be more inclined to ask them because you're like,

oh, I better. But also, it's your big day. It doesn't really matter. Yeah, good call. Yeah. Also, did you clock Jenna the way that he said rescind? Yes. He goes rescind.

Rescind. I say that. Like, oh, hang on, babe, can you turn the music down? I've got to do a reverse parallel park. I also say reseat instead of receipt. No. Do you? I get the receipt. of receipt. No. Do you? I get the receipt.

Oh. Just say docket. Yeah, just say docket. Shop and docket. Docket. Remember shop and dockers? Do they still have ads on the back of them? Oh, yeah.

They used to have little Domino's tokens on the back that you can, the coupon things. Coupons. Cheap pizza. I do remember that, yeah. I'm so fucking upset. Last night, I had a couple of friends over. Yeah. I do remember that, yeah. I'm so fucking upset. Last night I had a couple of friends over and I said to them, I was going to cook but how about instead I order some beautiful pizza.

Now when I say beautiful pizza, you know exactly what the fuck I mean. I'm not getting Domino's. No. I'm getting beautiful pizza. Italian pizza. Yeah. Wood-fired, yeah. Yes, exactly.

And so I ordered on Uber Eats and I ordered some fucking places like Giuseppe's or some shit. It looked authentic Italian. Oh, my God. It was like they dropped the pizza in a bucket and then went, nah, bugger it. It was so sloppy and wet and foul. Oh, no. My beautiful pizza expectation was not met. I was furious.

No, but like authentic Italian pizza is often very wet. Like they just put watery tomato sauce on very wet dough. Isn't that authentic? No, it was sloppy. It was fucking sloppy. Yeah. Don't want sloppy. Sorry.

Sarah Murdoch's been on the screen the whole time. I haven't been looking at you, Mitch. Sorry. It's been Sarah Murdoch. Sorry you're back. Oh, you haven't seen my facial expression. No, I sort of forgot where you were for a second there, and then I looked up to see you and it was Sarah Murdoch.

And you're like, wow, Mitch looks great. That's what I thought. No, Mitch looks stressed and worried, almost as if he's announced the wrong winner of a reality program. Mitch feels sick about this. I feel so sick about this. That's not right. It's not right.

It's Mel. It's you, Mel. I'm so sorry. That was me looking at my pizza last night. I feel sick about this. It's not right. It's not right. It's not right Mel. I'm so sorry. That was me looking at my pizza last night. I feel sick about this. It's not right. It's not right.

Sloppy fucking mess. Truly. I wanted the sort of pizza that you eat and it doesn't even feel unhealthy, really. But this one just felt like a hazard. Oh, sometimes you eat like Domino's pizza and the oil is horrific. Yeah. Domino's is like, you know, a good middle ground. You know it's a guilty pleasure but it doesn't feel that gross. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I miss Eagle Boys. Bring that shit back. Oh, Eagle Boys was the best. I didn't ever really get Eagle Boys. Really? Yeah.

Really? Oh, no, it was so dope. There was something about their crust and their, what do you call it, the shit on the bottom of the base. Yeah. But it was beautiful stuff. What are you doing on your phone, Mitch? People are messaging me.

Oh, all right. They're saying, is Jenna really going into the jungle? Oh, come on. Jenna, you need to address these rumours once and for all. Okay. It's true. I am going to the jungle. You are not.

And to vote for Jenna, text Jenna to 1099 555 5507. Sorry, that's me. What's happening? Trying to find jungle music. Can I just say something? Very odd to me that in our Facebook group, Enduring Idiots, at different stages they've speculated that you, Churi, are going into the jungle.

You, Jenna, are going into the jungle for I'm a Celeb. Not one person has said, I reckon Mitchell Coombs is going in. It's true. Like that's out of the realm. Look, I'd be very offended if I were you too, but, you know, they're called idiots for a reason. We love them dearly, but fuck. Not the sharpest spanner in the shed, yeah.

No, I think they just know that I'm dumb enough. This is Welcome to the Jungle. To say yes to it. Because I say yes to everything as learnt in this podcast. Yes, true. Jenna is peer-pressed into anything. Yes, true. And Mitch, you'd just be like, no, I don't need to go to the jungle.

I can post one Insta story and get as many views as you dicks get on that show. If they asked me, I wouldn't say no. But I'm not gagging to do that, no. Like swimming with snakes and whatever. Yeah, I'd do it. I'd do the jungle. I know that it's kind of easier said than done, but I actually feel like I could cope just fine in those weird situations

where they put you in a bloody coffin full of cockroaches and whatever. I'm pretty good at disassociating. Oh, yeah, I think I could do that. Yeah. I wouldn't actually give them the reaction they want. The producers would be furious. I wouldn't be there going, ah, ah, get them off me. I'd just be there like.

Are we done? Yeah, we're done. I'll leave you on that. I wouldn't have a real. I don't. Bugs and cretins don't freak me out, you know. Oh, they do if they catch me off guard. But if I'm put in a coffin and I'm told you're going to be covered in cockroaches,

I've got time to mentally prepare. You said, babe, we do this in season two, mate. Chill out. Now, what are we all doing for our holiday on a deeper level? I know we've all discussed it, but what are we actually doing? Are we going to have some away time? Are you going to chill with Sean, Mitch? Well, I'm not really on a holiday.

I'm still working. Yeah, likewise. True. Are you working? Jenna? Yeah? You're meant to be putting Sean, Mitch. Well, I'm not really on a holiday. I'm still working. Yeah, likewise. True. Are you working? Jenna. Yeah. You're meant to be putting in your leave. I know.

I know. I will genuinely put in leave. The jungle is work for you. That is work. Jenna runs the tweets for the Ugandan African Society. Yeah. What? She does.

The Ugandan African Society. Correct. That's what they called it, is it? Yeah. I did see, I thought, no wonder I'm getting so many messages asking if I'm going to the jungle. They go, this star is bigger than any animal we could fit on this continent. So many messages. This larger than life entertainer will love the jungle.

I do a good impression of that. You really do. Hypothetically, if I was to be cast and I'm a celebrity, get me out of here, what would my clue be in that voiceover? Oh, good call, good call. He's got more influence than an African elder. This social media sensation lands in Uganda July 14th. What about Jenna?

Not even the hyenas are interested in her body. This lanky, paper-thin woman. What? That's so mean. That's not. That's not even. That's not even. Oh, my God.

Mine was mean. Yeah, self-deprecating is a bit different. They yell them. They yell them. They do. The giraffes will love our female social media star. Who's that a clue for? Jenna.

She's tall. I don't think she's that tall, is she? Not that tall. No, it's on her. Am I taller than you, Jenna? Oh, I feel like we're similar. Yeah, hold on. I'm just going to bring up one of our photos.

Okay. Yeah, I'm taller than her. You never said I'm tall. Jessica Mowboy. Yeah, I'm taller than her. You never said I'm tall. Jessica Mowboy. Oh, God. Watch out, lions. This pop princess will chew your ear off. Instead of calling her no nonsense, you call her no, no nonsense.

Look, love her, but fuck. She's sweet. And she means well. She just doesn't make sense. Can't wait to watch The Jungle. Can you please go to the Instagram account for your radio show, The Pickup, and look at that video of Jess on the show the other day? Another example where you didn't actually ask a question,

but she also didn't answer it. It was just her talking at you about nothing. And there's one funny moment where it cuts to your co-host, Brit, and she kind of goes, hmm, to agree with what Jess said, but I know Brit was thinking, what? It got deep quickly. It wasn't even deep. She was just saying things.

I know we think, that's amazing, but you paved the way for a young, queer, Indigenous boy to win this show. You really did. I got to speak to him earlier today, and I've always mentioned to youth,

any kind of, when I'm doing youth programs, it's really about storytelling and being able to tap into yourself. Who are you? Where you come from? What you've learnt? And then there's the bigger outside world of that. But he's such a sweet artist.

And they all are. And I think once they leave that, I think it's really up to them to create those choices. It takes time. I'm still discovering where I fit in into my own kind of world, particularly with music, and still being okay with that and not being too hard on ourselves. Oh, that was a great answer. No, she lost me halfway through.

Okay, so just tell me, Mitchell, very simple question. What was her point? That she has always been supportive to youth. Jenna, did you pick that up? No, she lost me. I'm sorry. I love her, but. You know, don't get me wrong.

Bitch can sing, love her music, love her personality. But sometimes when I hear interviews, I'm like, what did you just say? Give Jess a break. Anyway, I've got to go, everybody. I've got a flight to catch. Love you all. I have to run away. In 48 hours.

What are you talking about? We're at that point in the podcast again where he just gets distracted on the computer. He's not actually paying attention to us. Yeah, you're not wrong. I do have to run and I'm going now. Goodbye to all. Thank you for listening. And I'll see you in a couple of weeks.

Wait. We hope this podcast made you feel at least 3% better today. Goodbye to all. Thank you for listening. And I'll see you in a couple of weeks. Wait. We hope this podcast made you feel at least 3% better today. That's all. Mitchell. We'll try that again. Okay. We hope this podcast made you feel at least 3% better today. That's all.

Just 3%. So we do. Oh, that was gorgeous. That was lovely. Sorry we won't be here for a little bit, but we promise we'll return. All three of us will be back and we will see you then. Thanks for listening to the show, guys. Give us a five-star review, please.

Can't wait. And, hey, if you're in Melbourne, not too late to get tickets to my comedy show, link in bio and Instagram. Hope to see you there. See you all. Bye, bub. Bye. Is it just me?

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