Is It Just Me? - #147: Come in Tim Abbott’s Box

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

The gawjus Tim Abbott (aka. Worthless Twink on Instagram) is our guest host this week!   In this episode: Ladybug update❗️ (04:58) Churi’s croup cough (13:53) exCUSE ME?! (16:19) Tim Abbott is hereee! (23:43) Timberley’s new podcast 👀 (41:52) Meeting Magda Szubanski (45:07) Taylor Swift fans are unwell (49:21) Our “Secret Segment” ADDebrief (1:03:13)   Hit us up: @coupleofmitches Send us a text: 0422 948 202See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is Is It Just Me? Hosted by a couple of Mitches. Hello, you. Hello, you. Go! Brace yourself for the rude shocks of young adulthood. In high school, I thought compulsory meant you had a choice, so my year advisor, Mrs Moyman, went,

oh, no, Mitch Math is compulsory. I went, fantastic! I'll do two courses of drama. Now here's Mitch Curie and Mitchell Coombs. Hello, you. Hello, you. What's happening? I'm fantastic.

Oh, that's good. Oh, no, I've been very flat lately. Like, I've been down in the dumps. For what it's worth, it's not been obvious. Has it not? No. Oh, that's sweet. Even last week, you were like, I'm so sorry I was so flat during pig week.

And I was like, I don't know what you were talking about. Am I a bad friend for not noticing? No, you're not a bad friend. Well, you know, there's stuff going on back end. But you're just a quality broadcaster and you fucking soldier on. Um, I'm here and I'm ready. I'm in a good mood because we have a big guest today. I'm really excited.

We've got Tim Abbott coming in today. Also known as Worthless Twink on Instagram. Any trash bags listening? Obviously, you know Darling Tim. It's your replacement. They replaced you with him when you left Trash Alley after that sex scandal. Yeah, the sex scandal. You just agreed so blindly. I love it.

You didn't leave because of the sex scandal. No, well, yeah, after I left, he got the co-host gig. Yes, yes. And there was only like maybe four episodes that we did together in total. There was a little bit of overlap. He was a guest and I filled in and stuff. And I really enjoyed them. So I'm glad he's coming in today.

I'm looking forward to having Timberley here. Me too. He's so funny. Started out as a meme page in the height of the pandemic. Like his page, he had a personal. Like we know Tim is Tim. We followed Tim Abbott. And then we also followed his meme page. I remember following it when it had like a thousand followers. Worth a swing. We know Tim as Tim. We followed Tim Abbott. And then we also followed his meme page.

I remember following it when it had like a thousand followers. Worth a swing. Yeah. Really? Yeah, because we've been friends for a while. I'll tell him all about this. But he messaged me like, starting a side project. Please support it.

Oh, really? Yeah, and I did. And then now he's huge. He's huge. And he's so funny. So he's such a genuinely lovely person. So he'll be a great guest. Prizekeeper Jenna, our third wheel, is of course on board.

Hi, Jenna. Hello, I'm here. Great to have you here. Great to be here. You're in a turtleneck. I'm in a turtleneck. I know, I noticed that. Matching turtles.

Matching turtles. Oh, you'd be a snapping turtle. I'd be a sea turtle. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, would you agree with that? Snapping turtles? I suppose.

I've never really thought about it from a turtle perspective, what you remind me of, no. Well, from a turtle point of view, I'd be a snapper. You'd be a snapper. And I'd be the one from Nemo, the really obnoxious little baby. Squid. Squirtle? What was his name?

Squirt? The one like, hey, dude. No, not me. I'm not a stoner. I'm the little kid, the high energy kid. Who I mean. What animated turtle would you be? I feel like there's a lot to choose from.

I don't know. Is there one in Little Mermaid? Oh, they all fish. No, that's Sebastian. He's a crab. The crab. You'd be the... Nah, Jamaican crab. I'm trying to think of the animated turtle. What's its fucking name? There is an animated turtle. There's another one. There is another one.

Fuck. Oh, he's got to have a conniption. No, what is it? Wait, um... Just Google famous animated turtle. Franklin! Franklin! Franklin! I'm Franklin. You're Franklin. Franklin is so they-them. I love Franklin. Franklin is Franklin. I'm Franklin. You're Franklin. Franklin is so they, them. I love Franklin. Franklin is queer and I support them.

Franklin is the cutest. Oh, they are so adorable. You're Franklin. Yeah, you're Franklin. You're Franklin. I'm Squirt. Although when I Google Franklin, there's a picture of him playing soccer. That's not very me.

No, because he's trying to blend in. He's masking. Is he? Yeah. You reckon Franklin's a fag? Also, we're misgendering Franklin with the pronouns that I just gave him. Yeah. Oh.

You think Franklin's non-binary? I think so. I think all animated characters really are, unless there's a dick in there drawn on. Don't you think? I'm sure they refer to Franklin as he, him. Really? Like Kirby. You know Kirby, that little ball of gum that you play in Super Smash Bros?

Kirby's neither here nor there. Yeah, but we never see Postman Pat's cock and we can just assume that he's a dude. He works for OzPod. I mean, come on. Have you ever seen Noddy's Noodle? Noddy's Noodle? Noddy's Noodle, I think I'd like to. You horny little child just thinking of their dicks as you're watching these.

I did. I've spoken about it on the show. I wanted to fuck Danny Phantom so hard. No, but what about Thomas the Tank Engine? Jenna, that's bestiality. Bestiality. It's a fucking train. I don't know.

It looks like a train. Ejectophilia or whatever that is. Anyway, let me just say, for those wanting a ladybug update. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. This is dog. Following on from last week's episode. That's on the way. I'll let you know.

Fantastic. The latest with that. Okay. Well, let's just jump in because I want that update. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. This is dog. Following on from last week's episode. That's on the way. I'll let you know. Fantastic. The latest with that. Okay. Well, let's just jump in because I want that update. Oh, you do? My idjim is truly shocking. It's something that I've noticed this week. Now we're in the colder months.

But that's how we start the show every week. Something we've noticed. Something we hate or appreciate. We call them idjims. Is it just me? They're the core of the show. Mitch doesn't know mine. I don't know Mitch's.

Tim's going to bring one too, I assume. Yeah, we'll get Tim to bring one. Yeah, Worthless Twink, he's coming up. Plus we'll hear from you. And is it just you of your own on the show? Shall I begin? I'll jump in. Up to you.

Do you want the Ladybug story now or later? Nah, hit me with Ladybug, yeah. You want to know? Yeah, I want to know. I'm dying to know. Is it just me or? Have I been fucking stitched up or what? Oh, no.

Is it that bad? Oh, my God. What do you mean? It can't be scammers. No, I need an update. Context. Just in case people weren't listening last week, I've decided to embark on a dog walking era because, A,

I want to get more steps in my day. B, I get to spend time with dogs. I love dogs. And C, I get to help someone out. Yes. Lighten the load. So tick, tick, tick. I put a listing on some dog walkers website.

I went a couple of months, no bites. And then I got my first customer inquiry last week. Yep. And where we left off last week was that I was going to do my first meet and greet with Ladybug to make sure I'm a good fit before they give me the dog walking gig. And Ladybug is a black and white French bulldog. I got that wrong, actually. It's not a French bulldog, but similar enough. It's actually a Staffordshire Terrier.

Okay, yeah, close. Much of a muchness. A little black dog. Yeah, a very cute, lovely looking dog, but also packs a punch. A kind of dog that your mum would be scared of. Probably. Yeah, okay. But she was absolutely adorable.

I went along to this meet and greet. Oh, you've met Ladybug? Yeah. Oh, shit. I told you that was happening. I know, but I just didn't think you'd actually do it. Of course I would do it. I was so excited.

I was really, really looking forward to this. I was like, I want this gig. I just know that Ladybug and I are going to get along so well and I was really, really excited. It just warmed my heart, the thought of having a cute little relationship with someone else's dog because I can't take on my own. And so I went along to the meet and greet. It wasn't a gay couple, by the way.

Gay, damn it. And they were waiting for me out the front, the owner, little Ladybug on a leash. And I say, hello, sweetie. Who have you got here? Ladybug, so excited, responds to that sort of tone of voice where I'm like, hello, come here, look at you. Oh, you're a good girl.

Jumps up, has her paws on my knees, getting a good scratchy and I'm like, oh, you're a beautiful girl, aren't you? And then I said, oh, hi, by the way, to the owner. I've just given this dog all the attention. And then the owner pulls out some dog treats from his pocket. Right. And starts showing off what Ladybug can do. Fucking sit, stay, roll over, all that.

And I'm there giving it my all, being like, oh, you're such a good girl. Good girl, Ladybug. Oh, aren't you beautiful? And then the owner says to me, why don't you try and give her a treat? Right. And that's when fucking Ladybug turned. Oh, no. No way.

I could have been killed. Seriously? Or are you embellishing this? Seriously. Look at this finger. Ladybug did that. Where? Where am I looking?

It's healed very nicely. It has healed well. And it was, she fucking bit me. As soon as I had the treats in my hand, she's like, and like attacked me. Wait, she growled? No. Growled, barked, bit, everything. What did the owner do?

Did the owner freak out? Well, he was like trying to pull her back on the leash. But because she's quite a hefty fucking dog, that's what I mean. She's small, but packs a punch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like pulling the lead, being like, no, come on, Ladybug. And I'm just stepping back going, oh, God, what's going on? And then he goes, try again.

And I was like, do I have to? So, again, put the little treat near her mouth, fucking attacks my hand again. And I was like, oh, God. And this isn't how Ladybug reacted when the owner gave the treat to her. No, not at all. And so we just kind of thought, okay, let's stop trying that now. We won't try that again.

And then I spent the next half hour walking around the block multiple times with the owner and Ladybug. She didn't look at me once. She only had eyes for the owner. Every time I spoke to her in that fucking voice, hi, sweetie, you like your cute? She just didn't even acknowledge me. Oh my God. So you failed?

Apparently, because I didn't even have to flag with them that I wasn't going to be available. I've been rejected. Oh, no. That's harsh. I've been knocked back. You've been broken up by Ladybug. Oh, that's really sad. I shouldn't laugh.

I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at the situation. That's devastating. Because it's not you. It's the dog. The dog didn't choose you. I was just thinking in the lead up, what would I have to do to fuck up this meet and greet with a dog? Like if I come and kick it, sure.

I'm like, what would I have to do to fuck this up? But then they rejected me because the dog didn't fucking like me. Did they let you down easily? It was very much like, oh, we're just going to, we're not going to proceed this time. But if we ever need a dog walker again, we'll let you know beyond this three-week stint. And so I should have been walking later bug this morning, but I was rejected.

Oh, no, Mitchell. That's actually devastating. I'm really sorry to hear that. That's the same. Look, it was sad because I had imagined our future together. Yeah. I imagined us walking off into the sunset having a gorgeous time. But then this is why I'm pissed off about it.

I think the owner fucking stitched me up because he said to me, oh, these treats in my pocket, they're the good treats. Normally when I'm just doing day-to-day dog walking, I've got the povo schmackos or whatever. Yeah. But when she's meeting new people, as an incentive to be extra nice, I get her the special treats as an extra reward. And I'm like, no wonder she attacked me.

She thought I was stealing them. She thought that I was taking the treats away from her. No wonder she fucking wanted blood. Yeah, because they were the good treats. These were the fucking top shelf treats. And she thought that this random woman was trying to rob her of her beautiful treats. Wow. And then he says to me yeah no sorry about that.

She's normally great with people but not great with other animals. I was like what are you saying? You're a man. I'm not another animal. What does that even mean? They were just adding insult to injury. I think that if it weren't for the fucking luxury treats I would have nailed that. You would have got the job.

She would fall over me before the treats were involved. I agree, Mitchell. It's not you, it's the treats. Yeah. I'm sorry. I know how excited you are seriously about getting that gig. I'm really sorry. I just think that we should be able to euthanise other people's dogs.

No, I don't stand by that. You know, surrender her because, quite frankly, our streets aren't safe with ladybugs out and about. You should print photos. She's a fucking threat. Is she? What if they hear this?

You don't want to piss them off. I don't care. They didn't give me the gig. Yeah, that's true. I'm very sorry. Their fucking tiny black dog tried to maul me to death in the street. It does sound like a vicious dog. And then they still made you walk it.

That's cruel. Sadistic. Yes. It was like they were hovering a treat in front And then they still made you walk it. That's cruel. Sadistic. Yes. It was like they were hovering a treat in front of me and I couldn't get it. They're like, this is the dog you could have been walking if you got along for the next half hour that it's paraded around being like, no, she doesn't like you, does she? Still doesn't like you. No, she still doesn't like you.

Well, Mitchell, I'm pleased to say I've got an update in my dog search. I believe in the next six months I'll be getting a dog. Can you please, like, I say this as a friend. Yeah. Can you fucking not, though? Get a dog. The last thing you need is another excuse to stay at home. That's why you're getting it, isn't it?

No. Because dog owners make it their whole personality. Sorry, I've got to get home to the dog. Yeah, they do. They might have fucking eaten a cushion. No, my dog will be very well behaved. You say that now. My dog will be behaved.

I'm going to get a little black white one and name it Ladybug, just to spite you. And I hope it fucking rips everything that's written. It's like Ladybug, dog. All right, good job. Also, Ladybug's allergic to grass. Fucking pathetic little thing. What kind of?

It's like an astronaut being allergic to space. I know. Idiot. I have to only walk around the path. Oh, that's stupid. Well, I would have had to. But I thought that I had the gig because at the end of the day, when I was about to go home from this meet and greet,

they said, right, so key to the house will be in the letterbox. That'll be where it is the first time you walk her, but then you can just hold on to it for the next three weeks. So you don't have to keep putting it back in the letterbox. And I was like, sweet then you can just hold on to it for the next three weeks. Right. So you don't have to keep putting it back in the letterbox. And I was like, sweet, I got the gig despite the fact she can't stand me. And quite frankly, I can't stand her. And you didn't get the gig.

No. I'm very sorry. Sorry. Condolences to you. To think what could have been. Don't think. It's over. Their loss.

Their loss. Ladybug's loss. Ladybug's loss. I know their address now If I happen to drop rat poison in the wrong backyard Wouldn't that be terrible Why do you have raw sausages and razor blades On your side of the desk

Mitchell That's what people do People bait dogs in dog parks They put razor blades Neighbours who hate their neighbours dogs because they're bark They put razor blades in raw sausage It's hate their neighbours' dogs because they're bark, they put razor blades in raw sausage. It's true. I take back my joke because that's awful.

That's awful. Brittany Harkley, my friend and my radio co-host, the Bondi dog park that she walks her beautiful dog Delilah in, there's rat poison in. They bake them into cookies and put them into dog treats. That's horrible. And then dogs eat them and then they die at home because these neighbours are just awful people.

Maybe I should take Ladybug to Bondi. Mitchell! Mitchell! Okay, Tim Abbott's going to be here. We have to move on. Yeah, okay. What's your answer? What's your answer?

Is it just me or... Did we all just stop getting croup? What? Croup cough. What's that? Did you never get croup cough? I don't know. If you explain what it is. Well, I've got an audio grab of what croup cough sounds like because croup

growing up, oh, croup was the plague. Mum would freak out. The kids have croup! Croup is an upper airway infection that blocks breathing and has a distinctive barking cough. Yes, it does. Now you're just being cruel. No, no. This is croup. I found it online.

That's a croup cough. Oh, it does. Now you're just being cruel. No, no. This is croup. I found it online. That's a croup cough. Oh, gosh. It sounds like a hanky, like an old man blowing his nose into a hanky. I had croup a dozen times growing up. It is that cough that rumbles in your chest. You know when you breathe out and it goes. That kind of cough is croup. That sounded like you doing coughing fit chicken on this podcast,

that croup cough. Are you sure you don't still have it? No, I don't have croup cough. Perpetual croup. Because I've noticed not getting it. I've actually, like, I forget croup cough. Maybe it's a thing that only my family spoke about. I remember my mum had a kid's health book and, like,

the first page was croup cough. You were raised before Google, so I get it. That's a good call. It was actually inscribed onto a concrete tablet. Yes. Wait, so Mitchell, you've never had croup? I don't know. Maybe I did.

I just didn't call it that. I've got no idea. This rings not one bell for me. Are you kidding me? I don't know if I had it. Deep chesty cough, croup. Yeah, but it didn't sound like a hanky. What? What did it sound like? Describe it. Just like Deep, chesty cough. Croup. Yeah, but it didn't sound like a hanky. What?

What did it sound like? Describe it. Just like a normal iPad kid cough. Yeah. No, that's not it. It's just a deep, rumbling cough. Do an impression. Okay.

Why is your tongue out? Why is your tongue out? Why is your tongue out? I'm hiccuping. Oh, my God. Something's going wrong with me. Oh, no. That's it. That's it.

The wet one at the end. You do the wet ones all the time. That's your normal cough. Oh, so this isn't a real disease. Mum made this up. Probably. Because I was an ill kid. She must have thought you were sick all the time,

but that was just your cough. Thanks, Michelle. You're listening to Is It Just Me? Got something on your mind? Hit up at coupleofmitches on Instagram to get yourself on the show. All right, shall we do an Is It Just You, Mitchell? Yeah, it's that time. We better.

It is your chance to have an Is It Just Me of your own, an Ijum of your own, but this is your own. You can send us a DM on couple of Mitches and we'll get you on. You can also text us, Mitchell, on- 0412 712 092. You can. Timmy's here early. Worthless Twink is here.

Yeah, he's rocked up early. He is. We may as well get him on. Hi, honey. Is he? Hi. Hi, everyone. It's good to be here.

Great to have you here. Thank you. Are you okay if we just, I mean, we'll meet you after and we can chat, but we'll just quickly get on a call. Yeah, yeah, let's jump on. Okay, no worries. We've got Catherine today joining us from North Sydney. Hello, Catherine.

Welcome to the show. Hello, hello. Hey. Hi. Gorgeous. Are you familiar with Timberley over here? Were you a trash bag as well by any chance? I definitely am, yes. Oh, perfect. Tim, Catherine, Catherine, Timberley over here? Were you a trash bag as well by any chance? I definitely am, yes.

Oh, perfect. Tim, Catherine, Catherine, Tim. Catherine loves to meet you. Aw. Very sad. Very sad. Very sad, yeah. Well, you've got your dream team here today.

Yeah. I know. Can we just skip to permanent and then we're good? You get the best of both worlds, as Miley once said. Yeah. Did you have a favourite out of the two, out of Trash Alley, or is it just me? Oh, well, maybe the one that said. Yeah. Did you have a favourite out of the two, out of Trash Alley or Is It Just Me? Oh, well, maybe the one that's still going.

Good call. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I agree. Yeah. Okay, Catherine, hit us with your Is It Just Me, Bradley or Count New In, then go for it, okay? Fantastic. Is it just me or?

Have people lost the ability to say excuse me? Oh, bold. Do you mean after a sneeze or are you talking just in general manners? No, just in general. Like, living in Sydney, catching the trains, the three-seater train seats, if I'm sitting on the outside, don't just stand there and stare at me, not asking me to move. Just say, excuse me or sorry.

Yeah, does it have to be excuse me or can I go, oh, sorry, oh, don't mind me. Is that fine? I usually say that because I feel like when I say excuse me, I sound really rude. I'm like, excuse me. Yeah, that sends shivers down my spine. But a variation on excuse me is fine, right?

Yeah, anything, just some words. Like even in the supermarket when you're looking at the aisle, don't just barge past trying to fit through. Just say excuse me or sorry or anything. I totally agree with that. Where do you live? Where do you live, Catherine, though? I live in Wurrunga in northern Sydney.

They're very posh. They're very posh there. I don't know if it's because of lockdown. Everyone's just forgotten that thing that we used to do. I have a theory. I have a theory. I think it could be because everyone's got headphones in now. I was just thinking that, yeah.

And also, when you speak, when you've got headphones on, you might yell, so you might be like, excuse me! Yes. Like you're not in the world. Oh, my God, Tim, if I go for a walk with headphones on, I can't do anything. It freaks me out. Like, I'll go to the stop, like the traffic light,

and I've got to pause my music, take them out, transparency modes on them, there's a truck anything. It freaks me out. Like, I'll go to the stop, like the traffic light, and I've got to pause my music, take them out, transparency modes on them, there's a truck coming. It freaks me out. And also nothing's more frustrating than someone speaking to you when you've got headphones in, and you go, pull it out, and they go, excuse me. And you're like. Yeah, no, how fucking bad do I feel when I don't realise

that they have been saying excuse me to me for the last five minutes, but I'm sitting there listening to my own podcast, obviously. Of course. I miss wired headphones, because you know when you'd pull them out, then you'd like wrap them around your neck like a wet towel, and then that was so easy to do. But with AirPods, I like drop it. It's like a crumb. It falls down my tits, and then it's in my sleeve.

I hate them so much. I miss the wires, yeah. Yeah, but people with long hair, people don't notice that you've got your AirPods in. Have you noticed that, Mitch? I have, actually. People think I'm just fucking talking to myself when I'm on the phone with the AirPods. I'm just walking through the park like,

yeah, nah, how are you? How good? And people think I'm fucking mental. Or you're just laughing at our show and they're like, shit, he's left the asylum for the day, walking through the park. But also they do come in handy, though, if you don't want to talk to people.

I just took a flight and I had my headphones in from getting on the ramp straight into sitting because I don't want to start up a conversation when the person next to me. Oh, God, yeah. But also, I rip those fucking headphones out so quick when they come down the aisle with the trolley with the bloody tea and coffee. I'm not risking them going, oh, I'm not going to disturb them. I will take them out when they're doing the safety briefing because I want to be polite.

Yeah, I do that too. Oh, my God. They give them full, undivided attention. They asked me the other day when I was on an exit row to take them out. They had transparency mode on. I was listening to what she was saying, but she asked me to take them out. You were amplifying what she was saying directly into your view. If anything, it was the only way I was going to ever listen to her is if I had them in.

So I zoned out when I took them out. Do you want to know how polite I am? Not only. No, I don't believe it already. Not only do I say, excuse me, because I'm just that fucking nice, Catherine, but also I had a flight the other day and the safety demonstration thing, the chick was right next to me. And so I thought, I'm going to be here with her props.

Because you know how at one point they point to the emergency evacuation card? And you're right there. I was like, she's going to reach into my pouch. I'm going to have it and I had it handy. Just handed it to her. And she just kind of looked at me like, thank you. I'm here, babe. I got your back. That's really sweet. That And she just kind of looked at me like, thank you. I'm over here, babe. I got your back.

That's really sweet. That's really lovely. I pay so much attention to those things. So fucking predictable. I know exactly where the whistle is, the light is. I've heard it 10,000 times. But I know that Jenny up the front is giving her all for us right now. I'm going to be a captive audience.

I nod along like, oh, yeah. Oh, I pretend I'm shocked. Is that where the inflatable raft is? No, and then when they're pointing, I'm like, there's the exit road. You crank your neck, do you? Now that I think of it, Catherine, I've not experienced the excuse me thing except on a flight recently. I just remembered, like, they just kind of stare at you.

If you're in the aisle seat and they're the window, they just kind of stare at you like, get up. Yeah. I've had that recently. So I'm with you, actually. I actually do put my AirPods in and pretend that I'm not noticing them there because I've got my AirPods in sometimes. And then they can say, excuse me, and then I all of a sudden can hear.

Catherine, I've got a theory, though. Do you have resting bitch face? No, I'm not trying to be. Okay. I don't think so. Do you have a public Instagram? I do. What's your name?

It's Catherine. K-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E. Yep. Joy. And Joy has three O's. Oh, wow. Okay. Catherine Joy.

Catherine Joy. Yes. Okay, let's have a look. And it's public, so we can be the judge. Because I don't want to be rude, but I'm thinking it could be the way you're... Maybe it's in the eyes, Catherine. So it... Maybe.

Maybe. We'll see. Oh, my eyes, Catherine. Maybe, maybe. We'll see. Oh, my God, Catherine, is your last name Queef? Sort of. Q-U-A-I-F-E. Yeah, it's Queef. Oh, Catherine Queef. I got married recently and I made the decision to change from Joy to Queef.

Oh, my God, you're Mr. and Mrs. Queef. I love that. No wonder people are rude to you. It's like a chafe, but a queef. Okay, here we go. Oh, no, I regret everything. You do not have ratchets. No, you don't.

You've got soft eyes. Oh, look at Mr Queef. Wow. Beautiful bride. Beautiful. Very beautiful bride. Oh, and there's a baby queef? Oh.

Oh, no. That's my nieces and nephews, yeah. Are they queefs? Is it? Yeah, they are queefs. You look very sweet. Who could ever be rude to you? You're beautiful, Catherine.

You live a great life, Catherine. Yeah, I'm so jealous of your life. You're very well travelled. Hey, thanks for coming on. It's all Instagram, not reality. You look beautiful. Hey Hey send Jenna a DM We'll get you a prize Okay we'll send it out

Of course Thank you Thanks Miss Queef Love you Kath See ya Kath A darling idiot and trash bag What a cutie she was Absolutely gorgeous

And with a cause as well Bring back manners Yes I agree Bring back manners I agree with that That was a really good one Now sorry to bloody

Ignore you all together there. Let's do a formal welcome. Hello, Timberley. Welcome. Oh, my God. Timberley is here. Hello. I'm very good at sitting quiet.

Are you? No, no, no. Don't believe it at all. So good to be here, guys. I feel like the holy trinity of gay has united. Yeah. I see it. I see it.

This is like when there's a world war And all the leaders meet up In Paris And they all discuss the plans This is exactly that Yeah yeah But gay Yeah that's exactly us One thing I wanted to bring up with you

Is that My jaw dropped When I saw that video From Trash Alley Where you were talking about The fact that Your father Used to be the voice of Big Brother

Correct Yeah yeah For the first three seasons Of the Australian Big Brother Wow That's like Did you not know that I didn't know that before watching the video.

He was also the executive producer, so there was more to it than just voiceover work. But yeah, I spent a lot of my childhood up on the Gold Coast each weekend. Yeah, yeah. And you can just hear it, can't you, in Tim's voice? Your voice is gorgeous, yeah. Can you give us a repeat after me? This is Big Brother. Okay, here we go.

This is Big Brother. Oh! Is that? That's freezing. It's actually really similar. That's amazing. Yeah. Oh, thank you.

Yeah. But it was also like when you're a child, you don't have any other, like you don't compare your childhood to anyone else's. How old were you when you were just swanning around instead of Big Brother? Like seven, six or seven. You were a kid. Like young, young, young. If I were you, I would have been running around Dreamworld. Like, let's go on the rides.

No, we were. We were. And we got, yeah, full access to Dreamworld. But you don't know it's unique. Like, you don't know it's special because it's just like, it just is. You don't know any different. Was your dad the EP during the infamous turkey slap incident? Whoa.

I don't believe, I think that was season four. I think that was season four. So no, he would have been there in like the OG days, the Reggie's, the Chrissy Swann's. Sarah Marie, the bum dance. So yeah, it was all of that. Yeah, yeah. So Reggie was the final season. Reggie and Chrissy Swann. Great. Yeah, phenomenal.

In my mind, they're the first season. What the fuck happened before Reggie and Chrissy Swann? There was. Fitzy, right? Fitzy from Fitzy and Whipper? No, he was season four. He was season four. So're the first season. What the fuck happened before Reggie and Chrissy Swann? Fitzy, right? From Fitzy and Whipper? No, he was season four. Was he later? He was season four. So no, first season was a guy called Ben and then another guy called Peter.

Interesting. Yeah. Wow. I do not remember those at all. They don't have radio shows, that's why. No, they don't. But it has spawned some excellent careers in the media space in Australia. Absolutely.

Two of the biggest radio presenters in the country. Totally. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. So would your dad, is his voice similar to the Big Brother VO voice or would he really put it on? No, his voice is probably similar to mine, but it would drop. It's a very calm, like this.

Did he ever like yell at you? No, no. As Big Brother, like Tim, to your room, now. No, he was never a yell. He was a very calm operator. Yeah, yeah, so no. They didn't come home with him. So if you had all this behind-the-scenes access,

can you answer this question? Why the fuck was Big Brother's voice sometimes a female? It'd be so off-putting when it was like, this is Big Brother. It's like, say Big Sister or Big Sibling or something. Never during his seasons. So he was on call like a doctor. So he would-

What? No, truly. Sorry. So he would be up there for like four-ish months of the year, but then he would do his normal office hours. But if there was ever like a TV-worthy emergency, he would be called up and he would wake up and go into the dining room. I'm trying to open this up the screen without a pitting.

I just need to acknowledge it. And I'm not queef this up without a pitting. I just need to acknowledge it. I'm not queefing in the corner over here. Oh, Catherine's still on the line. Sorry, that's my fault. So if there was non-TV word like, oh, can we get some more biggies, please? Like it would just be overnight producer, whatever. That's fine.

But if it was I'm thinking about leaving the house or someone has been, you has been assaulted, turkey slapped, he would be called up and he would be pulled in. Wow. Yeah, it was exhausting. And I think like any big production, I think he did three and was just like, I can't do this anymore. Took a toll.

Yeah. What's he doing now? He's retired now. No, no. He stopped working in 2016. So he's been, yeah. So tell me the trajectory of Worthless Twink because if you don't know Tim, Tim runs the the trajectory of worthless twink because if you

don't know tim tim runs the the well your instagram is worthless twink correct it originated as like a queer meme page yeah yeah and memes throughout lockdown it's it's kind of taken on this weird pseudo it feels like it's been around longer than lockdown yeah it was no 2020 was yeah yeah yeah was it og um and then yeah now it's like OG. And then, yeah, now it's like, again, when Trash Alley came around, it became a bit more me-centric and now it's a bit more travel-centric. It's kind of lost its way, I must say. No, it is what it needs to be in that time. Well, it's growing alongside me, but like.

I mean, it's your Instagram. If you want to post yourself on there, go for it. If you want to post a meme, post a fucking meme. Like, you can't predict this sort of stuff. Like, there's no way. Again, had I predicted all of this, there's no way I would have chosen a handle like Worthless Twink. Because you are a twink.

And I just want to say on behalf of us, you're not worthless. You have worth. You are worthy. It's funny when people, like, message me and take it very literally. And I'm like, guys, like, it's not that deep. It's just a bit of fun well i actually i've known you since pre-worthless twink days pre-worthless you've known me for a while since like 2014 15 i think yeah baby guys yeah baby guys baby guys i don't think i was i actually do you remember these i wasn't out no and you were really nice to me and you sent me really really kind messages things have changed

since um and i didn't even have my blue tick and you were still nice to me so that's uh that you're a real real good person i think i think i think that's a general yeah i know i'm being serious you were so kind and you helped me oh lovely lovely thank you i'm so glad because yeah i think it's coming out help me coming out i think i had questions um i didn't understand where the penis went with a man it was very confusing i think it was just general support. Like, it was just, we had our mutual friends and then, yeah, I think we just found each other online and then we're just kind of mutually supporting one another. Similar sense of humour as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we've known each other for many, many years. And then Mitch and I, yeah, probably two years, three, two years. Yeah, we probably met in like 2021. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When the events started to come back yeah yeah yeah the account now is like there's been some incredible opportunities with the sydney swans come through and some other partnerships so it's like it's becoming a bit more personality

based um now which is which is great but it you will lose some people in that transition because they go i didn't sign up for this. Have you noticed you've lost some? Yeah, it's always like it can be a bit of a knee jerk because people are like, ooh, I wasn't expecting this. But also, you're gorgeous, so people are probably going to stick around. Totally. Speaking of the Swans, by the way, can I ask? Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'm thinking it might be time for my AFL era. What's the vibe like? Because I just feel like it would be nice camaraderie being in an AFL game. Mitchell, you know the Swans are the top tier. You're not going to get into the Swans. No, I'm not trying to play for them. I just want to go. It sounded like camaraderie.

It did sound like you wanted to be in the professional team, the Swans. If they'll have me, I'm more than happy. With legs like that, I think they might. I would be an asset, but I'm just talking about going to a game, getting a fucking meat pie, getting amongst the vibe. The scarf on, all that energy. The timing's come perfectly because next Thursday, June 8th, is the Pride match at the SCG.

And they've been doing this for a number of years now with St Kilda and it's just a year of them kind of just signalling that everyone's welcome at the footy and that's their slogan. I have been to one of the Pride matches before. That's the only AFL game I've been to. I remember you got the socks. Yeah, I did. I got the footy. And that's their slogan. I have been to one of the Pride matches before. That's the only AFL game I've been to. I remember you got the socks. Yeah, I did. I got the rainbow socks.

And I was a little bit surprised. I thought there'd be more of a song and dance about the fact it was a Pride match. I thought there'd be a halftime show. I thought there'd be a little mini Mardi Gras. But also, it said a lot that they didn't make too much of a fuss. They were just like, yeah, we're wearing rainbows. And it's not a big deal. It was just an ordinary game with fucking rainbows.

I think that's the thing in terms of they're like, it is still just the footy and it's one of their values of the club that they want to promote. And there's 40,000 people there. Most of them, you know, probably aren't queer or gay. So it's great that they do stand up and do that. But it's a very easy sport to follow. If you haven't been to the AFL, the rules are very simple.

If you don't, you know, pick it up quickly. It's also very theatrical with the lifts in the air and stuff. The lifts, the jumps, the shorts. It's all very camp. And also the umpires with the flags when you get a goal, they kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They camp about that. It's real dressage.

It's really performative. See, I'm an NRL boy. You are. And I've been to NRL games many times. NRL does not support the queer community. Well, yeah, I used to quite enjoy going to an NRL game, even though I'm not a huge supporter. But after that whole hoo-ha with the manly seagulls having a rainbow jersey,

I was like, oh my god, the AFL do this every year and it's no big deal. But NRL like, oh nah, nah, I'm not doing that gay shit. The AFL do it every year. The Pride flag is up at the SAJ all year round. The Pride merch is available all year round. And I took my friend Sean, not boyfriend Sean,

but my friend Sean last week to his first ever game. He picked it up super quickly and also he's being his full self there. He's squealing, he's wailing, he's, you know, snapping his fingers, he's slut dropping. Like, it's very, very safe and very accepting. Like, it's come as you are.

It's great. Am I allowed in your box? I think you could come in my box any day. Great. I've always wanted to. Okay. Well, should we end the chat now? Is that the end of the episode?

Mitch, you can come in my box too. Oh, thank you so much. I'd love to. I'm just assuming that you're like some sort of ambassador. I am an ambassador of the City of Spots this year. So you get a box. We can get a box. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We can get a box. Can we get a box? We can get a box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we get a box? We can get a box. Oh, we can get all of it. Jenna can come as well. Yeah, you're a footy girl. Yeah, oh no. You are now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We'll get you some shit. I just want to go into your box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're more than welcome. It's an incredibly welcoming, comfortable environment and it's a lot of fun. Also, men in short shorts.

They're also gorgeous. Gorgeous. Is the AFL, you might know this, Tim, are players in the AFL openly queer? Are there many? Interesting. So the CEO of AFL recently came out to say that there are gay players.

I saw this. Didn't identify which teams they were in, but he said that none of them want to be the first. The marketing brain in me goes, don't you want to be? You're going gonna be fucking hired forever get that vogue cover you'll be in stellar mag get the brand deals there's so many people that aren't current plays that come out after the fact right but i don't know why they just don't come out while they're still playing i think they i i the argument that i've heard against this

is they don't want to take away from the fact that they are a professional athlete and they're playing in a professional league they don't want it to become about their sexuality which i kind of understand in terms of like they don't want to be known for being the gay i felt gay fl player they want to be known as you know either the best person on the team or the captain of their team maybe but if they're neither of those things being the gay one no but you know you're right i actually don't think the problem there is with the player or the community. That is with the media because the media, they won't vilify this person, but they will.

You can just see the social media tiles. XXX comes out gay, pride for rainbow flag. They will make such a scene out of this player coming out. I get why they'd be hesitant to do it. If they are gay and it's not a huge part of their identity or personality, then they might want to keep that to their private life. And that's very fair. We don't ask any other AFL to be explicit about who they're sleeping with. So although it would be excellent and so great for queer representation in sport, I respect the decision.

No, I agree. Yeah, I agree. Not every gay man's got a nauseatingly annoying podcast. That's all of us in this room. I know. That's my point. That's my point. That this room. I know. That's my point. That's my point. That's us.

I know. I know. I know. I know. Yeah. So, yeah. Anyway, I'd like to see you all there next Thursday. Okay.

I mean, anything I've got on, I'll clear my schedule for your box. It's fine. Yeah. Thursday night, 7.30. Speaking of your box, you're in a new relationship? New-ish. Yeah. Seven months.

Nice. New-ish. Yeah, new-ish. met um the week before my birthday in october last year lovely um and yeah things are going really really well it it started very strong like in terms of like not that it's not strong now but it started like very like okay we are on like yeah second date it was like we're not fucking around i feel like you've always been a little bit lesbian in that way a little little bit lesbian. You just shack up instantly. Sorry, the last, no, the relationship before that was like 18 months and it was still like, so are we going to meet each other's friends soon?

Oh, I hate that. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, and so, yeah, so new relationship going really well. He's a country boy, similar to you. They breed them tough in the bush, mate. Oh, have you guys been to the bush? We've been to the bush. He's from the New South Wales Queensland border.

Oh, yeah. He's lovely. Very kind. Very country mentality. Is he also a non-drinker like you? No, he's the opposite. He does like a drink. And that's fine.

That's fine. I don't think I have to date a non-drinker. I think it only becomes an issue when it's a problem. I have no issue with being around alcohol. Can I say, this is what I wanted to talk to you about next, is that I also am now a non-drinker. You're kidding. Now I haven't had 10 months.

You're joking. Yeah, I haven't had a drink. That is excellent. Sorry, I think I did say this, but I always say that the first month's the hardest. Yeah, but you put something on your story. You were never much of a big drinker though, right? No, and the problem with me is that I am, I'm six foot three.

I'm a chunky boy. It took so much alcohol to get me drunk. Like it would be, it's expensive, you know, for me to get drunk. And then also to stay drunk. Passion pot vibes. I know I should have. I know I get the goon sacks. But I'd go out and I'd have three drinks.

I'd feel it for 10 minutes. And then the headache would kick in at the club. Oh, so you didn't get the payoff, but you got the hangover. Totally. I got the hangover. I lay by the hangover. It appeared so early. When I used to drink, I used to get pretty much instant hangovers as well.

But also, as our bodies are aging, it takes so much longer for us to recover. And so I'm like, I don't want to waste three days hungover. Yeah, the thing is, you posted, and I love that you spoke about this, because when you tell someone that you're not drinking or you don't drink, oh, it's a thing. Oh, it's such a thing. Oh, it's a thing. Do you get the, oh, did you have a bad experience?

And also, I do all the time. And I was like, if I did, would I talk to about it with you? Yeah. And it's always like, obviously my friends know, my good friends know, but it's always people that will hear it for the first time and they go, oh. I reckon I probably gave you what you might consider the most annoying reaction when you first told me because we were we were at an event they were coming around with

champagnes i grabbed another one off the little plate and i said oh you don't want one you said i don't drink and i was like ah how boring i don't think you did i think you went up one more for me and i think that's a good reaction to have i don't think you did give me a show that does get up my goat though yeah i'm like i i can go every event that i've been to in the last five years obviously a good reaction to have. I don't think you're digging me a show. That does get up my goat, though. Yeah, it would. I can go, every event that I've been to in the last five years, obviously not drinking, but I feel like I can mingle and mix and talk and socialise, as can you. And I'll be the first to admit, when I fucking say things like that, oh God, you're not drinking, how boring. It was probably at the time coming, like, it was projection.

Because I was like, oh my God, I could never do that. I got that at the TikTok for you fest. Oh, yeah. And it was like 11.30 at the after party and I ran into someone who I. That's late for you. 11.30. Thank you. Very late for me.

Like a loose acquaintance. And they were like, oh, it's tonight the night you become fun and start drinking again. Oh, no. And I was like, gobsmacked. Also, it came from someone who was very dull. Yeah, the irony. I'm glad you've had seven drinks so you can start talking now. These TikTok events, I find them insufferable.

I really do. I find a lot of these influencer events insufferable. I really struggle with them. I was talking about this last night, and obviously you've got your classically media-trained media personalities. Tim was pointing at me. Thank you. It's an audio medium.

Tim actually drew me. It's a beautiful drawing of me. I'm over here. But a lot of these online personalities spend their whole life just with their phone, just in their bedroom, and don't mix or mingle with other people. And then these people could be very popular online.

They have huge followings, and then you meet them, and they can't put two, three words together. Can't hold a room. It's unbelievable. And also, like, the easiest thing you can do in that situation is ask me how I am. Because I will talk for 30 minutes. That's very true. If you don't know how to talk to people, just be like, how's your day been?

Ask questions. Great. I feel like you'd be an easy person, even for the most shy and awful. You would bring out the best in someone. I would hope so. Ditto twofold. But, like, apparently not. Really?

Some people struggle. Across the board. I mean, I've definitely noticed that myself. But I think I'm a bit awkward as well. So sometimes I'm like, maybe it was my fault. No, but you're charming, Mitchell. You're easy to have a conversation with. I don't throw you in that love.

You know what? Maybe we need to start dumbing down the terms with these TikTok stars. And instead of saying, let's have a conversation, you go, why don't we stitch each other? Oh, I'm going to ask how you are. Why don't you duet me? Like, maybe we have to dumb it right down. Use their language

that they can understand. Oh my god, that makes so much sense. It's sad. And I also like a lot of these creators are very, very young and they will never go into the workforce. They won't be working alongside other people. And I'm like, fuck, is that going to stunt your growth?

Like in terms of- Good question. In terms of like, I'm assuming most of us have, you know, been working alongside people professionally, corporately in some shape or form. We're working in a team. Whereas like you could come out of school, work by yourself,

be your own boss, which is awesome, props to them, love that, but then they do not develop social skills beyond that. Now I really miss the team environment. I didn't realise how collaborative I am. You are a team player. Yeah, exactly. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very much so.

So I do wonder and, I mean, that could just be like 30-year-old pessimism but, yeah. How do you feel heading into 30 because I'm there in three years and I'm thinking I that's not a dig but I am thinking about it my satin's returning you know yeah yeah no how do you feel about it I oh I'm I'm very close to it so yeah a couple months away now so I feel fine I feel like my I've done my 20s exactly how they should have been I've lived in five cities i've had three relationships i've had a couple jobs like it's the trial period your 20s you just like do as much as you possibly can and yeah like and i feel like i look back i'm like yeah i feel

like i did it like that's great do you know i wouldn't want to get to 30 and be like oh you know i haven't really gone after what i wanted to do or i haven't really experienced the flavors of life but i'm like yeah i I'm ready, if anything. I'm kind of like ready to kind of bookend 20s and be like, yeah, no, I feel grown into my 30s. What about starting a new podcast? Are you going to give that another crack in your 30s? Well, we could be very close to that as well.

Oh, tell more. Oh, my God. Say it. I'm not a gatekeeper and I'm also just, I'll talk about it. So I have a new podcast. Oh. Which should be coming out soon. So it's called Director of Performing Arts.

Ooh. Love it already. I'm so good. Of course. And the format is I actually invite the guests to bring on their passion in the performing arts space. So you could be like a major Dua Lipa fan or you could love Glee or whatever your thing is in performing arts.

Then we're going to unpack it and then also how has that influenced your creation performance? Oh, that's fun. It's like show and tell. I love that. It's a little bit show and tell, but it's also like I just love,

I think everyone can talk if it's something that they're passionate about. True. That's a really good idea. And instead of going through someone's story, being like, how did you get into it? What's your thing that you would absolutely die for? So if we had thought of that far enough in advance,

what would you have brought in today if we were asking you to do a show and tell? I mean, I don't want to be that guy, but I feel like there's so many. You're just so nuanced. There's so many assets. There's so many layers, but like, Kath and Kim, Lady Gaga, Beyonce.

AFL. AFL, Steve Jobs. We could go. And I want to see that passion in the guests. So obviously you both will come on in due course. Of course. I was hoping you'd ask. And I'm also thinking maybe a bit of guest interaction in terms of like

challenge them with a super fan on get a follower or someone who would be a super fan in that topic and getting me against a fellow kath and kim fan yeah i'll crush them yeah so you know yeah and that's the energy that i want on the podcast i want someone to come on and be like this is why it's the best thing ever this is why it's changed my life and like and it so it'll be hosted by me but alongside a guest each week good talent i actually love that. That's fun. Thanks. I can already see the artwork.

I know what it is. What is it, Zach? Can you say? Well, no, because I know. So you tell me. Oh, I mean, I picture like drama teacher. Like, that's what I'm getting. I'm also getting maybe a director's chair.

Yeah, that's what I'm getting. It's literally that. So it's me leaning over the back of a director's chair. Yes! Exactly! I can't wait. Five minds, dude. Can I just say, the obvious answer is always right.

Yes, yes, yes. In terms of like, I went through many ideas for the podcast for a minute. I was like trying to write my brain. I'm like, what hasn't been done? And like, what's brand spanking new? And I'm like, it's been in my bio since Day Dot, Director of Performing Arts. Yeah, true.

It fucking wrote itself. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And I'm like, we're not reinventing the wheel. Let's just give them. People love talking about pop culture. That's so good. I love that so much. Well, I'm excited to see it, hear it.

And excited to be on it, I hope. Yeah, how soon is it? Well, going to the studio tomorrow to start booking in time slots. So, like, imminent. Yeah, really exciting. Really, really exciting. Now, do you want to address the rumours that you and Matt slept together? That's why Trash Alley was disbanded?

Stop that. Sorry, but we have to ask. You're both Heim records. I will shut that down very quickly. Both Matt and I are in very committed relationships. Got it. And so those rumours are not true. And whoever started those.

Well, she's next year. She's a bitch. Is it just me? Listening on Spotify, don't forget to leave a five-star rating. Yes, the gorgeous Tim Abbott is here with us today, aka Worthless Twink on Instagram. Make sure you give him a follow if you haven't already. I'm desperate for it.

I'm assuming that's where you're going to drop the news about the new podcast once it's out. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely I'm desperate for it. I'm assuming that's where you're going to drop the news about the new podcast. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That'll be it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Before we get into your Is It Just Me, can I ask a question about one of your Instagram

posts? Oh, yeah. The selfie with Magda Zabansky. Is she an angel in real life? So I'll tell you the backstory. So I just, I was down at Clovelly and I just went for a swim. So I literally just thrown myself into the beach, got out, and I was like, I'll grab a coffee.

So I went up to the Clovelly kiosk and in the corner, there she was. And I was like. Did your heart skip a beat? It was racing so hard. I mean, as a fellow Kath and Kim fan, you'd be dying inside. And I was like, there's one of my childhood heroes just having a casual breakfast. Now, it went through my head.

I was like, well, well fuck she's with a friend and like she's having breakfast and i'm like do i respect the piece and the other part of me went this is gonna happen once like this is gonna happen once and i and i pre-planned what i was gonna say in my head just so i didn't have to give her any responsibility to carry the conversation so i went in i just went out hey i'm just wanted to let you know i'm a huge fan and you're a huge hero of mine and love Kath and Kim So it was just a very closed comment And back away

And then she was like oh that's awesome And then I went into the meme thing And I made a lockdown meme which you reshared And she was like was that you And I was like yes And then she was like did you want to get a photo And I was like yes please But i was still in my budgies so okay so what she said she said why don't you turn around and take a selfie and i'll photo bomb it

and i was like great so i went boom boom and i turned around and went thank you and then left very swiftly wow so magda has seen your ass in budgies. She has seen the ass. Wow. Look how adorable she is in the photo. She looks so cute. She was delightful and also to spring her. Thank God. Yeah, no, angel.

Maybe that is, I actually think that's a good clue because the time I met Magda was also when she was having breakfast. You're kidding. So maybe it's her favourite food. Yeah, at the Logies, we were next to each other at the buffet and I was like, she was there and I'm like, oh my God, that's Magda. And I want to get the breakfast buffet. So I'm sitting there and we're like standing side by side at the buffet.

And she gets the hash browns and I get hash browns. And she goes, they're good hash browns, crispy. I'm like, yes, they are. No, I didn't say anything. I just wanted to act cool. I didn't want to, you know. And no photo. No photo.

But then like she got, we left the buffet at the same time. And it's like, we could have sat very close. But then we just sat on opposite ends of the of the restaurant in the star it was horrific another meeting your heroes is i met connie mitchell from sneaky sound system oh yeah and sneaky sounds is one of my all-time favorite bands i adore them i think they're so so great they make awesome pop music and my she was in an event that i was at and my friend tom was like well i'm gonna go say hi to her are you coming coming? And I was like, oh, okay, okay, I'll come with you. Anyway, so Tom went over and said hi and he was like, Connie, I want to introduce you to your biggest fan and turned around and I was like, hands between my legs.

Oh, okay. And she was so sweet and just gave me so much time. And we ended up having a really nice chat. But yeah, yeah, she was lovely. So meet your heroes. Do you have any nightmare meeting your hero stories i don't think so i met russell crowe but he wasn't a hero so i think no i think everyone that i've met has been so lovely and kind i think if you go on

with a bit of a strategy just being like hi love your stuff think you're awesome like carry on or hi love your stuff can we quickly get a photo? Or I think go on with a strategy. Yeah, show some respect, I'd say. Show some respect, but then don't launch into the, like, best friend chat. Too much, too much, too much. Yeah, yeah. I'm actually, I'm the opposite where I'll chat with people for ages.

If someone's coming up to me and saying, oh, hi, I listened to the podcast, whatever, I'll keep chatting to them. And then they're kind of like, how the fuck do I exit this? I'm trapped with Mitchell. Like, I'm the opposite. I chat too much. You've pulled out two microphones. Yeah.

Babe, have a seat. All right, shall we get Tim to do an idjim of his own? I'm assuming you brought one with you. I brought a few. Of course I did. Okay. I've settled on one. All right.

Bradley, you'll count you in. Finish this sentence, okay? Is it just me or... Are the Swifties not well? I concur with you, yes. I will elaborate. I agree. I will elaborate.

And before I'm going to do a top line summary and say, I like Taylor Swift, calm the fuck down. It's very smart. Very smart. You need to calm down. You line summary and say, I like Taylor Swift, calm the fuck down. It's very smart. You need to calm down. I like Taylor Swift. She's a great songwriter. I love her. However, I have some friends who are diehard Swifties.

And recently, it's almost bordering on COVID conspiracy vibes. Listening to them talk, I'm like, I'm just waiting for the time where I can tell you you need help. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you seen the stuff that I'm referencing? Are they just talking about, like, all the little Easter eggs? Everything she does is a hint of something coming up.

Yeah. It's looking for clues and plot holes. Something and nothing. Something and nothing, which is conspiracy. Which is QAnon, yeah. What were they saying? You're making meaning out of nothing, but they'll be like, her shirt that she wore yesterday had five buttons.

And the fifth track of her most recent album is called Buttons. Yes. And all this random shit. They really do that. And you're like, okay. Yeah, but Taylor Swift, her fucking self has created that. Everyone's looking for meaning in everything because that's what she does. She does enable it.

She does little Easter eggs in all of her videos. And if you're Taylor, great. Yes. What a hardcore loyal fan base. Excellent. But for the fans, I worry because I'm like, I'm looking at these people that are now like in these, again, like webs and forums of like, oh, she said this. She said the word Midnight's in the reputation to our concert.

Okay. A very common word. Yeah. She was performing at Midnight. She gave us a clue seven years ago. Like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And I'm like, lots of artists do this.

They know what album's coming next. Like, it's not like exclusive to tay tay well they give her so much credit they like make it out that she is this yeah this genius who is sitting there with 30 people in a boardroom like love it but i don't know she's not that switched on see i don't begrudge them for like looking into all this shit because i don't give enough of a fuck to look into all the easter eggs and make my own theories but i love hearing about them i'm all i'm all for fandom i love fandom but this is now a point where i'm like this is consuming your well-being yes and that's where i get scared but going back to think about taylor inventing

stuff so the thing about the contracts and the taylor's virgin scene yeah and when they start telling me about the contracts that taylor was in I was like, that's pretty stand-on music industry. Yes. Yes. In terms of someone would own the recording rights, someone would own the writing rights, and someone would own the publishing rights. And I'm like, that's pretty much every music contract

that has been written since the dawn of time. She just weaponised a common contract. Correct. She made everyone think that she was in a shitty deal. Everyone's in that deal. Yeah, but is it the right deal? Is it good that that's the normal deal? No, that's true.

I mean, Kanye's come out. She did start sort of a trend, I think. Artists have come out exposing the labels for these terrible deals. However, but the labels offer so much. They give you all the marketing budget. They give you a huge distribution. They put you in front of the right people. They give you-

Cash advancements. You get money. Cash advancements, touring spots, access to incredible recordings for you. So, like, it really shits me when they're like, girl boss, like, reclaiming the contract. She's rewriting the industry. And I'm like, she's not because, like, that's fucking common standard practice. Sorry. Have many seats.

I get what you're saying. Do you know what I mean? I did think she was mostly fucked off about that because they didn't tell her that they were selling her music. Didn't she want to buy it herself? And she was like, oi, I didn't know it was for sale. Yeah, I think that was mostly fucked off about that because they didn't tell her that they were selling her music. Didn't she want to buy it herself? And she was like, oi, I didn't know it was for sale. Yeah, I think that was the issue, right? She had the option to buy her masters.

But she didn't know. No one told her. But no one let her buy her own. No one gave her the opportunity. That we know of. That we know of, correct. Right. Well, she was too busy planning Easter eggs for her album in 2050.

Correct. Correct. I'd never heard the word Easter egg used in that context before. I was like, it has always been a thing, like Easter egg as in a clue. Yeah. It is fun because it's like Easter egg hunt, so you go hunting for the little things. So it comes from the gaming community, right? It's like Easter eggs

in games that reference old games and future games. Or that you might unlock a different path or whatever. But that's why Kate Bush, when running up that hill, had that resurgence after Stranger Things. She did own the recording, writing and publishing rights. So she made bank.

I love that. She did that in 1980. So all the Swifties out there, Kate fucking Bush did it for her. It was a trendsetter. Sorry. But then watch Taylor come out and go, I haven't shaved in months. And they're like, yes, because her and Kate Bush.

And she did actually beat Kate Bush because she's got vagina hair. So shut up. You've got a bit of a Kate Bush sticking out over there. I can see you, Kate Bush. I don't know if it's intentional. Anyway, that's my piece. Sorry. Wow.

Speaking of Bush, can we get you to add to our list, please? We get every fucking guest to do this. We've got a list of things better than drugs and dick. We do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because as someone who is about to exit their 20s, can you please vouch that sometimes when you're in your early 20s, you get swept up and you become obsessed with boys partying,

whatever it may be. This answer was very easy for me because chocolate-covered sultanas. Oh, that's a guilty pleasure. If someone gave me a night on the couch with chocolate-covered sultanas. Cocklet. With difficult to pleasure. If someone gave me a night on the couch with chocolate-covered sultanas. Cocklet. With a cocklet. Oh, he's a country boy. I thought he'd be bigger.

Cocklet-covered sultanas. Yeah, chocolate-covered sultanas. Very hard thing to say, my God. And also very hard thing to buy. Very scarcely stocked in your coals and woolies. But what about the rude shock when you don't realise that it's a fucking chocolate coated sultana? You're like, it's an Easter egg.

And then you bite into it and go, sultana, where did that come from? Do you not like them? It's not my favourite. I think they're very polarising. I've never really tried it. They're delicious. I love them. I love them.

I grew up on those things. It's my bag. Like, if someone's like, let's get a bag, I'm like, I'll have chocolate coated sultana. Yeah, aisle four at Woolworths. I'll eat a kilo. Have you ever had a chocolate-coated goji berry? They're fucking gorgeous.

Oh, they're beautiful. They are incredible. I don't know where I get them actually. Like health food stores and stuff, they come in like a little bag. Oh, delightful. I don't even know what a goji berry is. Oh, just like that dried up shriveled piece of shit you can see in the health food section next to the chia seeds and stuff.

Okay, it actually does sound like something I'd like then. It's quite gorgeous. Tim, nothing worse, though, than getting a chocolate-covered sultana, biting into it, and it's a peanut. I completely agree. I completely agree. Ruins my day. Or like the mixed assortments.

No, I don't want to. I can tell the difference just by the size of it, whether it's going to be a peanut or a sultana in there. The peanuts are always a bit chunkier. The sad thing is it gives me terrible tummy aches. I'll still eat 750 grams of them because they fucking

taste so good. That's cute. I like that. Good addition. That's one of your little guilty pledges. If you've got anything else to add to the list, while I've got the pen out, you can add more. Go for it. I also had one which was very different. It's being uncontactable, which was either in the form of like-

Going off the grid? Going off the grid or like even a flight. Like I'm quite salty that they've added in-flight Wi-Fi because I'm like it's the one time that you can be like, oh, for the next hour or 17 hours, I'm just going to be- With my thoughts. With my thoughts. But aren't you a bit of a tired-

I feel like you're not going to pay for the in-flight Wi-Fi,-fi are you correct i wouldn't pay for it anyway but but the thing is going it's the option because you can put your phone on do not disturb you can put your phone on airplane mode but you know if you turn it back on the notifications will come through like all they don't that's a bit depressing i get off the flight and go fuck i'm gonna have so many through and there's nothing. Is that the worst? You're going to be like, oh, I've just, oh my God, I've just, all these offers have just gone through my mind. I'm back, everyone. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah.

And so there were a couple of places in the shower, on a flight and then camping that I'm like, you just can't be contacted. And that to me is way better than any drug or sex or dick. Yeah. Wow. The last couple of guests we've had have sort of found a loophole in this drugs and dick list like Sean Zeps did rimming which is technically not drugs or dick

but I'm like you don't fucking get it Sorry, no Mind out of the gutter, there's so much more to life And he's a father Emma Horne said tits as the gold deserves in her eyes Yeah, that's very fair, I think she was being shaky No, there's plenty more to life than drugs and dick.

Yeah, we've got a whole bloody list. I love what Spanky Jackson said from Drag Race. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is word for word. KFC, you still get to suck on something, but you don't get the aftertaste, and there's no shame if there's a bit left over in your tits later. She's a stand-up.

That's a classic. That's a brilliant gag. It's been written in advance. Tony Lodge said really good melted cheese. See, a brilliant gag. It's been written in advance. Tony Lodge said really good melted cheese. See, this is why Tony and I would be best friends. I caught up with Tony the other day, and a lot of time in our catch-up was spent talking about you.

We're like, yeah, we'd go into battle for Timberley. Adore him. I just love hearing that because I think she's the best. No, you get along. I like, yeah. She actually asked, when I said, oh, yeah, he's coming on the podcast next week. She said, can you send a fan question from me? So, Tony Lodge wants to know, what toothpaste do you use?

Wow, this is groundbreaking. That is such a Tony question. I love it. This will not surprise. Do you know what I'm going to say? No. Whatever's the cheapest. Really?

I look for the yellow tags and i go you're two dollars i'm tight like i could have guessed that are you a tight ass tim i didn't know this about you ultimate tighter why why i'm very i'm just very frugal with my coins because like particularly on perishables like i love so funny i love buying nice things yes like i will love spending three and a half thousand dollars on your computer because i like, I will cherish it and I'll love it. But then when it comes to things that are fleeting and I could have just, you know, I don't like food, hate spending money on food because I'm like, I will get five seconds of enjoyment out of that food.

You're a sucker for a schnitty special. I love a schnitty. Cheap Tuesday. Yeah, like a $15 schnitty. Love that. But like, I want to save my pennies for things that like, yeah, will hold longevity or like. Yeah, I guess. Not impartial to like a Louis V like, yeah, will hold longevity or, like. Yeah, I guess not. Not impartial to, like, a Louis V, you know.

Yeah. Yeah, like love. But, again, I'm like, I would rather save up for that than, you know, just spend coins on, like. Buy the ultra brightening Colgate white toothpaste for $12. Who the fuck cares? If you want to send it to me, great. But, like, I'm not going to spend $12 on it.

So, Tony, yeah, whatever's the cheapest. So, it could be anything. Great question, Tony. Thanks for listening to the show, Tony. We love you. I have a story about Tony. Well, we have a little in joke and I hope I'm not embarrassing her, but Tony and I have this in joke because on her Instagram stories,

she'll always preface something for international audiences. So she'll be like, for the international audiences, like this time or like it's available like to US and UK audiences. Mitch does that all the time. That's exactly what I do. And then so I'll always do it and be like, hey, Tony, I'm from this place. what i do yeah but it's like and then so i'll always do it back hey tony um i'm from this place like i'm just checking if it's available here like um and so we always go on about the international audiences so good

if i do the same thing we have the same joke because i think mitch underestimates people's intelligence overseas here we're like oh for the international audience our traffic is you know people are driving their cars so they need to hear the traffic report and we're like yeah we fucking know what a traffic report is everyone has that i'm old school radio i set up everything i start i give context for everyone context is king and i do the exact same thing because i there's you not to the point where it's insulting no but i would i would rather that than someone dm me and be like no traffic and you're like and so it's like sorry to bore you for three seconds but like for everyone else i'm just such a people pleaser that I want everyone to have context

all the time 24-7. I think context is good. But, yes, sometimes his board is on mansplaining his context. It completely thinks about how I communicate online because I'm like, if I get one DM that doesn't understand this, I've failed. Yes, yes, yes. I haven't done my job well enough. And the other day I was talking about I've been doing some investigation on multi-level marketing scans i saw that content i loved it

and then i said i was like look this is going to be a job for tracy grimshaw she's going to have to come out of retirement that because i know that she's retired and then the amount of messages tracy grimshaw's not it's actually ali Langdon now, babe. No. Listen carefully. Put your listening ears on. Okay, no, I understand what you mean. Trust and believe I know Tracy Grimshaw well. Yeah. And I would never speak out of turn. For international listeners, Tracy Grimshaw is a journalist that has since retired.

She's our Barbara Walters. She is our Barbara Walters. Although she's not dead. She's not dead, yeah. All right, well, you can get Worthless Twink on all socials. Go give him a follow. Very cute, very handsome. Actually, just Insta. Sorry, not all socials. Go give him a follow. Very cute, very handsome. Actually, just Instagram.

Sorry, not all socials. Yeah, you're Tim Abbott everywhere else, right? Yeah, just Instagram is my go-to. Sorry, TikTokers. No, you're fine. It's all right. But yeah, come say hi. We love you.

Thank you for coming on. Oh, thank you for having me. Yeah, you're welcome anytime. I'd love to have you back. Well, honestly, have me anytime. Maybe I'll poison Mitch so he's sick and then you can come fill in. Anytime you need to fill a queen, I will be here. Oh my goodness. Oh, I read that as fill space

a queen. And I thought, wow, you're offering. That's lovely. I'll take you up on it. Thank you. You said thanks for coming on and I say where? True, true. Oh, that was great. He's quick. Easter egg. You're like Taylor Swift. When I look at you, I think Tay.

Oh God. They're going to come for me, the Swifties. You're going to be When I look at you, I think Tay. Oh, God. Oh, God. They're going to come for me, the Swifties. You're going to be killed. I'm going to be killed. I'm thinking, Trud, carefully, mate. Yeah. Yeah, actually, I think that's something with the 30-year-old.

Like, you just go, oh, what are they? Well, at worthless twink if you're upset about the Swifty comments, do not come for our podcast ratings. No. No, as I said, love Taylor. Love the songwriting. Yeah, the Conan Gray situation. Just the fans are fucked.

Oh, my God. Oh, dear God, don't even start us. Don't bring that up. All right, let's go. Let's get out of here. We're back next week, everyone. We better go. Thanks for coming in, Timmy.

See you, guys. Love you, Timmy. Bye. See you next week, guys. Catch you soon. Bye. Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of Mitches.

Make sure you've hit follow on your podcast app. Welcome to AD Debrief. This is our secret segment on the end. We call it AD Debrief because there's a couple of people with ADD having a debrief. There's nothing fucking planned or structured here. You know what this is like? It's like when you stick around for the end of the credits and they give you a little bonus scene. An Easter egg.

Yeah, it's like a Marvel. Like a little Monsters, Inc. bonus scene. An Easter egg. It's a bonus scene at the end of the credits. That's what this is. Monsters, Inc. When was the last time we went to the movies? 2001.

Well, they're the only ones I can think of that actually did that. Like the little bonus thing. No, Marvel. It's like Marvel's, it's become their thing. They always tease the next movie in the end of the current movie. It's a whole fucking movie. Ah, okay. And do the Swifties know about this?

Because they would go fucking crazy for that. Oh, they'd rip down their bloody screen. They'd knock down the projector. This is Taylor's thing. I'm trying to see if I can get chocolate covered Sultanas delivered, but I don't think I can. Oh, surely if you went like a Woolies Metro or something. Yeah. If you did, I could eat the whole bag in one sitting.

They're not bags anymore, Tim. They're in their- Oh, they're little containers. Yeah, I literally do. I love them. Surely you can get them delivered. I'm sure we could. While we were recording, Mitch, I noticed your Enigma shirt.

Oh, yeah. This is my Lady Gaga merch. And I'm not going to lie. When I was fucking going through the wardrobe, what should I wear today? I did think, oh, Tim will get a kick out of this. That's why I put it on. And it did. It kicked me many times.

I actually bought it in Vegas at the show. Did you go? Yeah, I did. Because I probably had a couple thousand dollars in my bank account to my name. So did I, mate. I got a travel debt. It wasn't good. I probably had two and a half thousand dollars in my account.

And I went, I know I won't regret going. And you did? No, I didn't. And I didn, I know I won't regret going. And you did? No, I didn't. And I didn't. Tired ass Tim strikes again. No, but that's something that I would spend my money on. Because I did that for Beyonce. I took myself to San Francisco to buy myself to see Beyonce and Jay-Z on the run 2014.

I love that. Yeah. And it was worth every penny. I mean, I would describe a concert as perishable. It's not something you can keep. But I kept the memories. Yeah, memories last forever. And I also got some great stories out of that trip.

But with the Enigma tour, did you see both jazz and pop? No, I really wanted to, but at that particular time I was there, she wasn't doing the jazz version of the residency until like January and I was there on New Year's Eve. You saw her on New Year's Eve? Yeah, she did the fucking midnight countdown and everything. It was amazing. I hate to interrupt, but I've ordered the Sultana. Oh, you did New Year's Eve? Yeah. She did the fucking midnight countdown and everything. It was amazing. I hate to interrupt, but I've ordered the sultanas.

Oh, you did? I found them. Yeah, they're organic too. I did notice that you went a bit quiet. You're about to say something quite impressive. Because you might look at me and go, oh, he nibbles. He's put together. He nibbles.

He grazes. Oh, you'd be wrong. Because I will devour. I'm so excited to see this. And I'm going to film it and I'm going to cancel you. If that's cancel culture, go for it. But how was the show? It was great.

I watched it twice, the normal Enigma show. You went to the pop version twice? Yes. I thought that I'd go in sober and I'd be seated and I'd appreciate it for all its art and whatever. And that was fine. And then the following night I went with a friend on the mosh pit and we were pretty lit and then i realized okay this show is very much designed

for people off their face it was so much more enjoyable um so the first night you go by yourself yeah because i i love that because the first i went to on the run the beyonce tour by myself and then i and beyonce and jay-z i should say but then i also went to gaga's the fame ball tour oh yeah twice by myself wow and what was the vibe then very drinking at that point no no i was 16 15 or 16 so you were drinking yeah oh sorry country kid coming out but i actually i think i enjoyed i preferred going by myself because i could be my full emotional self i don't think i want anyone to see me like that oh no i was the opposite i couldn't be my full emotional self because i was like fuck that's weird i'm sitting here by myself so i was just sitting there like i was a reviewer i was like yes i enjoyed that song

yeah yes and so but the second night when i was there with my mate oh fun time that's actually also a good idea going twice because the do you ever find like the pressure of going to a concert you have so much built up in your head and the expectation and what's going to happen. You get to experience the show. It's almost like watching a movie the second time. You come in and you're like, I can actually just sit down and enjoy it. It's a very expensive habit to watch everything twice.

The first time I watched Wicked the musical, I was like, is that it? Is this what everyone's overhyping is the world's best musical? The second time I went, I was like, oh, I get it. And now I could sing every fucking word from every song. What were you going to say? I was going to say this means nothing to me and I find it so incredibly boring and I hate to have an Is It Just Me on the fly. I can't stand concerts.

I find them so boring. I get nothing from them. I find no connection. I'd much rather listen to the artist and watch interviews and connect on a way that is actually personal. I feel it's so impersonal and I think it's a waste of money. But it's a fun novelty. No, I hate it.

You don't enjoy them. It's not loud. It's crowded. It's so expensive. It's overpriced. I agree with you on some part. Like, I've loved my Beyonce concerts. I've loved my Gaga concerts.

But also I go, I'd be much happier if no one else was here. That's exactly right. Maybe that's my inner snob. Yes, I want it to be Gaga, me, because that's it. You're getting whacked and pulled. Too much. And people are screaming and then you can't even see. You've got to pay astronomical prices to even get a good look at them.

I do not like concerts. I don't see the value. You're almost better off, this is so old of me, but seated. And so you can actually see the stage and enjoy you know if they've got a great voice or you know a lot of the best concerts i've ever been to was seated at shania twain it was gorgeous say no more maybe you've got a point because the best concert i've ever been to was um elton john seated yeah and it was amazing because i just sat there and everyone else was seated because they just had knee replacements everyone it was yeah i think for elton john because i went

to that they didn't even have the option to not sit the bit on the ground where you'd normally have a mosh pit they just put fucking fold out camping chairs down for yeah yeah it was amazing they knew their audience yeah that's surprising because you've been in like the music world for a long time yeah

Tim I get to talk to these people so I don't need to see and if that's the music world, yeah. Interview-wise, who surprised you the most? As good talent or bad? No, no, no. In terms of the interview, going in, maybe having a different perception in your head because you would interview people that you're not necessarily a fan of

or you might be like, oh, they're not that interesting. Who surprised you? Who surprised me? Duba Lip're not that interesting. Yeah. Who surprised you? Who surprised me? Duba Lipa did surprise me. Interesting. Like very charming, very sweet and kind. I got to interview, oh, my God, I'm going to butcher their name. What's his name?

Here we go. No, ex-Nirvana. Troy Savigne. What was it, Nirvana? Troy Savigne. Madonna. I'd love to butcher. He just died

I can't remember I interviewed him The week before he died Oh yeah What? From In Excess No not from In Excess No my collection's not

From Foo Fighters Foo Fighters The drummer Who only just died Yeah he died suddenly I interviewed him a week Before I had the last interview With him ever

And I don't listen to the Foo Fighters Taylor Hawkins And that'll be on his Wikipedia page Yeah the last interview I don't listen to the Foo Fighters. Taylor Hawkins. And that'll be on his Wikipedia page for life. Yeah, the last interview. I don't listen to the Foo Fighters, never have, but I interviewed them and they blew me away because they're old school.

They're charming. They were sweet. They asked questions back. They gave great responses. Isn't that interesting? Someone who listens. It's a very, very rare trait. It's a rare but appreciated trait

when someone can be an active listener. Yeah. Oh, pardon me. Dua Lipa, why did she surprise you? Did you think she was going to be a bit two-dimensional? It's a rare but appreciated trait When someone can be an active listener Pardon? Dua Lipa, why did she surprise you? Did you think she was going to be a bit two-dimensional? Because I love her music Same But I worried that Because a lot of the pop stars

I'm not going to name names Terrible interviews Can you name names? Shocking No, I won't name names Just one? No, I don't want to Because I'll talk to them again

And then if I piss off labels It's not right Do you think Shakira is listening to this podcast? Potentially. She's like, fuck that. Never, never, never. Shakira, is that you? I reckon Miley would have been a good time.

The interview you did with Miley was really authentic. Miley was amazing. And I kept her there for 10 minutes before I even started the Zoom. So I got off on the wrong foot. So you're right. I caught it. And she was amazing. She seems to be so unfazed by all of the glitz and glam.

But I expected that, to be honest. I expected that Miley would be good. And she was great. And maybe that is because she's an Epo baby and she's just been around it her whole life. Her dad was like, honey, you respect these journalists? She was also just like chill and asking you questions about like the vinyls on your wall in the background. I love it when they do that.

Oh my God, Ru, RuPaul, American. I love that album. That was a great Miley. Yeah, thank you so much. Also, I'm sorry. I really love Miley because she's maturing as an artist. It's so exciting watching an artist actually grow and shapeshift her voice is getting so much better like not that it was ever bad but

i think her voice what you disagree no i'm just thinking it's getting a bit husky and like cigarette affected she's nailed the rock and roll vocals you know us do you know but i i said this um on will gibbs podcast but about katie perry i'm like i feel like katie as an artist i heard that and i wanted to fucking throw my phone at the wall you are so incorrect i don't think she's matured as a vocalist her vocals have gotten way better than like the early days especially when she was pregnant i don't know what it was about having a fucking kid in her abdomen it must have been been... Wait, who are we talking about? Katie Perry. Oh, I was still on Miley. I thought, when did she have a baby? Got it.

I think she has, oh, by the way, some recent performances of Katie's, like that King's Coronation. Rubbish. Oh, yeah. I was like, damn it. Because I've been telling everyone, no, no, no, she has gotten better. Like, around... Which is a shame. When was the Smile stuff? That was like 2021, 2020. Yeah, it was. That was terrible. I didn't like that. It was shocking.

But her live vocals are really good and all the comments on YouTube are like, fuck me, she's finally peaking and no one gives a fuck anymore. In her flop era, she can sing better. So I disagree with you. But anyway. I just, okay, to not make this negative, to make it positive, it's great seeing someone like Maya and I feel like she's really getting it. Like she's just really mastered her craft now.

And like, I've loved the whole journey to get here but I feel like now she's this fully realised superstar. So I'm just writing this down. So you've dissed Taylor Swift and Katy Perry. Just so the fans can keep track. I love Katy's music. I think she's a great songwriter.

She makes great pop. She understands the pop brief. She understands the pop world. It's just weird that ten years into the game her vocals haven't matured with her is that because she was already really good to start no she actually has gotten better though so i'm like have you watched them recently because i like i'll have to send you some links where i'm like i would love to be impressed it's not really good you're waiting i love the music yeah it really gets a lot of like that's a lot of play the thing about m, because I'm a huge Miley fan as well, is that, yes, her voice has changed,

but sometimes I feel like a concerned auntie. I'm like, oh, babes, lay off the dairies, please, because she can't hit the high notes like she used to. Sometimes it sounds like she's really straining to get the high notes that she used to. She's fucking dropping Wrecking Ball down a couple of keys or semitones, whatever, because she can't hit those notes anymore. I'm like, oh, baby, lay off the dart.

Did you see the Attention Live album? From who? Miley. No. She does a great cover of Like a Prayer and Heart of Glass. Oh, this was the cover album, right? Heart of Glass is a perfect example of where I'm like, you sound like you're actually hurting your throat trying to get that high.

You spoke about that on this show. I think I did. Yeah, it was a top five of something. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a top five of something. Yeah, it was. Yeah, I did a top five Miley Cyrus song cover. Go look it up, babe. It was a whole segment.

But for me, I'm like, she's nailing rock. I don't think she'll ever be a jazz singer. She'll certainly never be anything more than the rock genre, which is fine, but she's mastered the rock genre. I think she's one of the most unique female vocalists in mainstream music. Where do you stand on Ava Max? Love the music. Yeah.

Sorry. Yes. What's the... My heart. My heart. My favourite song in the world. That's my favourite song. Yeah. Million Dollar Baby.

It's a gym bop for me. Like, wouldn't go to a concert and I don't know how she is as a vocalist. I completely agree. She also doesn't get the love that she deserves, but she also needs to put work into the personality. What do you mean? Is she the bad interview you didn't want to name? No, no. I have interviewed

her. You know, maybe there was a teleprompter on her side, all I'm saying. She just has her responses. I think the music, it goes hand in hand now. I think particularly like someone, what is it, Ice Spice? Yeah, Ice Spice, yeah. I think has nailed the online personality thing,

which adds so much more to her music, right? And I think also early day Gaga, like her interviews were fucking wild. That's true. Right? And so like the music was great, but people were talking about her because of the personality and interest. And the music only gets you so far. So like, yeah, my notes to Ava would be turn it up.

Do you know my favourite, like, early Gaga interview is when- I could quote so many. She had, like- I could quote so many. I swear she had chewing gum or a lolly or something in her mouth. And the guy from 60 Minutes asked her about the rumours that she's got a penis. And she's like, maybe I do. Would that be so terrible?

She had a fake diamond in her mouth. That's right, a diamond of would that be so terrible she had a fake fake diamond that's right a diamond and she took it out and then dropped it in her tea yeah like it was and that was anderson cooper who's like my huge um career icon oh yeah it's a group is your career icon nepo baby is he nepo baby massive nepo baby from who i think it's like the vanderbilt his parents like oh new york city correct yeah. But he's a power gay. Of course he's a power gay. You look a lot like him too, I think. Gorgeous, nice skin.

He, very sophisticated, very eloquent. It's so funny that I lost my words. Here's my pitch, because you were picturing him nude. Here's my pitch to you. Yeah. Anderson Cooper, Andy Cohen. Cohen. Let's be that in Australia. We can do it. I can be a bit mean. I can have the sarcasm. You would be the Andy Cohen let's be that in Australia we can do it I can be a bit mean

I can have the sarcasm you would be the Andy Cohen yes yes and you can be the sweet one I would love nothing more because I'm commercial radio I'm really commercial Andy's really commercial

with Bravo just as I was listening to you talking to Mitch about like who's your favourite interview blah blah blah I was like yeah I can see this podcast

yours working Timberlake great interviewer oh thank you yeah you are I agree oh thank you thanks for, you are. I agree. Oh, thank you. Thanks for the great feedback. I just want to say, I've been asked recently, like, oh, like, what's your career goal?

Like, what's your absolute dream job? I said 60 Minutes. I was like- Really? They cover anything from Adele's new album to North Korea getting bombed. Like, it's full spectrum interviews, which I love. So, like, when asked about, like like dream job, I'm like 60 minutes, like because you're storytelling and you're telling the best stories.

And you've got the voice for it when they do the, I'm Liz Hayes, I'm Tara Brown. What would you say? Who was that? Oh my God. Hold on. They did this. I heard you guys talking about AI in one of your podcasts.

Oh yeah, we did that a couple of weeks ago. And Obsessed. And they did a great segment on AI and the opening. Can I play the opening? Yeah, play it. I've got it saved on my phone. I've got to say, sometimes if I don't know what to put on TV, I do just go to the 60 Minutes Australia YouTube channel and just put on

some random thing that's interesting. Oh my god, I do too. And Mitchell, have you noticed how many views they've got? They get like 100 million views. They probably get more people watching than they do on TV. Tara Brown's a fucking vlogger. You need to watch this one then, but this to me is

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Was that an AI reading, that intro? It sounded like it. It did sound a bit like that, didn't it? I thought the reason you were impressed was because that was a fucking AI man and voice. It sounded like it. I thought that's where it was going to go. No, just in terms of the delivery, in terms of the setup of going, like, we're at the next frontier, and it's going to be as good or as evil as humans design it to be.

And I'm like, or allow it to be. I love finding out those facts about it. Oh, Uber Eats is here. It's Sultanas. Is it? Yeah. Jenna, do you want to get them? Yeah.

They're at reception under my name. No, you stay here. You're out as distinguished guest. They're at reception. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, it's almost time for us to get out of here.

So make it quick. His name is Chin. Chin's got your order and he's got three bags. I bought three bags in case we never have. We really do need to get out of here. This is a random comparison to make. Back to the AI thing, sorry. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Very weird comparison to make. But remember when COVID first became a thing, it was kind of like there was probably a week at most where people were like, oh, this is a fun novelty. We get to stay home. Oh, great. Or like, oh, if I a fun novelty. We get to stay home. Oh, great. Or like, oh, if I get it, I get two weeks off work. Amazing.

But then it started to slowly but surely get to a point where I was like, this is actually a bit fucking scary. That's how I feel about AI. I was like, this chat GPT will write shit for me. And now I'm like, fuck, AI could murder me one day. It makes me like a little bit uneasy. Totally. I'm in the camp of like, I love it and I embrace it.

But I'm a tech enthusiast, though. Yeah, no, like I'm into it now. I'm a techie as well. Isn't that funny? I'm into it now as it stands. But like if it advances, too fucking far. Is it funny or is it exciting? Oh, it's exciting.

Wow, that was your inner 60 Minutes. That was the out. And then more. No, we'd love to know your thoughts. Let us know. 60minutes.com. They always throw to 60minutes. That was the out. And then more. No, we'd love to know your thoughts. Let us know. 60minutes.com. They always throw to 60minutes.com for thoughts. I miss Peter Harvey's mailbag.

Did he die? Remember he used to do that at the end? Yeah. He used to do that at the end of every 60 Minutes. Are you an apple boy? I suspect that you are. I have a Steve Jobs tattoo. I must say.

I did not know that. Is it the apple logo on your balls? No. I'm actually having all my tattoos. On his Adam's apple. Tim's getting up. I'm actually having all my tattoos, all of them removed. And not because I don't love Steve.

Can you let me know if your tattoo removal goes well? I've got to ditch this art pop shit on my arm. Again, you don't hate art pop. No, I just over it. You're getting it removed. So I have Stay Hungry. Okay, hold on. So I'm looking at Tim.

Oh, they're all half removed as well. Have you undone your fly? Hold on. His pants are down. Hold on. Stay Hungry, stay... His pants are off. Which was a Steve Jobs quote. Wow. Yeah. It's Tim's ass, everyone. Do you know what I just remembered? Yes. Wow. A while ago, during one of those fucking rare

moments where you and I were both on Trash Alley, we were talking about tattoos and you were like, oh, my tattoos are in kind of personal areas. It'll be too revealing. I'm not going to show you. You just got your fucking thighs out for cheering like it was nothing. We've been friends for a long time. And maybe I just feel more comfortable here.

Possibly. Potentially. There's more room to walk around. There actually is. Well, thank you for showing me your intimate bits. I've also got a much longer T-shirt on today. You did cover up. I did cover up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My bits. Oh, the bowl. Is that what you were worried about? Yeah, the big bowl. I didn't look. I didn't look. I was very respectful. Yeah, I just poked you in the eye.

No. I didn't have a choice. Apple, Apple, yeah. That's a whole other podcast. Well, the WWDC is next week. It's on Monday. Oh, my God. Let's text. Let's do like a live text. Honey, you That's a whole other podcast. Well, the WWDC's next week. It's on Monday. Oh my God. Let's text.

Let's do like a live text. Honey, you're opening a can of work. Wait. You're going to fucking record it. Wait, this is our first intro as Anderson and Andy. It's we can live stream together and unpack it. Because it's so funny. I was, again, on the back to the podcasting content thing.

I was like, I love tech. I'm such a tech enthusiast, but I'm like, no one eats it up. But hold on. That could be my topic. You're going to have to get me tonight. That could be your topic. That could be my topic. Because I was like, I love tech. I'm such a tech enthusiast, but I'm like, no one eats it up. But hold on, that could be my topic. You're going to have to get Mitch and I on. That could be your topic. Because I love Apple, I love tech. Okay, you come on and we talk about Apple. You don't have to get us on separately, yeah,

because like once you guys get on a roll about your things, but then we're very different. We were just fucking on a roll about concerts. Yeah, and I was so bored. And I think that's, sorry, I think that's the beauty of my own podcast. This doesn't even exist yet. Is it like we can talk about something so intensely about what you love.

We'll talk about something intensely that you love. And on the off chance that some guest comes in, you don't necessarily give a fuck about what they're talking about. Just ask questions. Well, that's the thing. It's easy. Again, I also love learning and hearing about someone else's interests and passions. So it's like. Okay, maybe I bring something that you don't know about then.

Otherwise then. Which I mean, would be many things. Oxygen, yeah. What? They're not here. There's no Sultanas? Look, he's out the front. They're not there.

He's on a scooter. Outside reception, maybe? Like at the door, maybe? They weren't there. Now she's replied. They just arrived. Fibs. Gaslighting.

Fibs. Gaslighting. Patience is a really good virtue, Jenna. I was's replied. They just arrived. Fibs. Gaslighting. Fibs. Gaslighting. Patience is a really good virtue, Jenna. In the time that you came up here and abused me in front of friends, you could have had our chockies. Jenna, get the chockies. Goodness me. If you're going to have a conversation, Jenna, can you do it on mic?

Because then I have to fuck around turning up the volume in the background. She doesn't understand it. I don't want to go down the Abbott. Sorry, your name apple rabbit hole but i'd love to go down the abbott rabbit hole oh my god you remove rabbit we will be in contact we yeah please yeah yeah are you die hard die hard cbj uh oh like steve jobs oh but what did you just give him middle name? No, just Stevie J. Oh, I thought you said CBJ. I'm like, I don't know.

I thought you meant Steve Wozniak. I thought that was like a Woz thing. I thought you meant Woz. Oh, yeah, I know. Under the original logo, the beautiful black. Anyway, I'm currently, my current obsession in the ecosystem is a HomePod mini in every room. Bathroom. I want one in the living room.

I want one in kitchen. The sinking. Bathroom, I want one in the living room. I want one in the kitchen. The sinking, yeah, is delish. The sinking, I want the ecosystem. There's a great film, and sorry for everyone else listening, but I'm just talking to Mitch right now. There's a great film called Pirates of the Silicon Valley. Oh.

And it was a made-for-TV movie in like 1997. I love those things. It's brilliant, and I think it's available on Amazon. But it has a story of both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates and how their stories intertwine. And it's far better than all the Steve Jobs biopics. They were all shocking.

All those were terrible. But this one, and it doesn't shy away from painting him as a narcissist. It does an excellent storytelling of how things came to be. Wow, so Mitch has passed away. No, I'm actually just looking it up. It is on Amazon Prime Video.

Yeah, yeah. Because I think I tried to rewatch it and it's excellent. So it really summarises the history of – and also I think people take this for granted. Everyone has a fucking smartphone, right? Yeah. All of this comes from this era. Yes.

Like everything that we take for granted in terms of the computer that you type on at work, the phone that you make your phone calls on, all came from this error. They invented the touch screen. The touch screen wasn't a concept. The multi-touch. Yes, you're correct, actually. What's the difference between a touch screen and a multi-touch? Multi-touch can handle multiple inputs at once. So you're

multi-touch, Mitch. We're all multi-touch. But in a couple years ago, a couple years ago, you were just touch, but now you can handle multi You're going to multi-touch Look I don't want to go down Are we going USBC?

Let's leave it on that question We are We've seen the renders Yeah we are We've all seen them Do you follow the Apple Hub? I check 9to5Mac Oh I love 9to5Mac

Detroit Borg On YouTube Yes And Mac Rumors Probably about three times a day Oh we're the same person You just have a far lower BMI. We'll save it for the director

of performing arts podcast. Of course, of course. Seeing as you've just spent a bit of time talking about stuff that other people might not give a fuck about, I'm going to do the same with you. This might not apply to anyone.

People might not give a fuck, but I have a question for you, Timberley. Always, yeah. At the time of record, I'm flying to Darwin tomorrow. What do I pack? What do I pack? I'm stressed. Oh my God. Okay, for you, Timberley. Always, yeah. At the time of record, I'm flying to Darwin tomorrow. What do I pack? What do I pack?

I'm stressed. Oh my God. Okay. For context, I lived in Darwin in 2020 during the first lockdown. Context queen. Thanks for that.

Context queen, paradise. And then I also just recently went on holidays there for five days. Yeah. I didn't know that you lived there. I saw the holiday. Why did you live there?

I actually got trapped there. I'm so accusatory. Why did you live there? I'm sorry, the sultanas are here Great question So my best friend Sam lived up in Darwin And at the start of COVID when we all got sent home to work from home I was like everyone's working from home

I'll just come up to Darwin and work from Darwin for two weeks And I was a bit of a COVID denier Thinking that COVID was going to last two weeks And I was like I'll come up to Darwin for two weeks And then the whole country went into fucking lockdown. You got stuck. And then got stuck, but like, oh, like poor me, like living in fucking paradise.

It was amazing. Best year of my life. Like one of the best years of my life. Wow. I haven't packed yet. So is it just don't even fucking bother with long pants? Don't fucking bother. No, no, no.

It's crisp. It's probably 27 to 32 every single day. Not a cloud in the sky. I don't think I like that. Dry heat. So it's not humid. So like your hair will be fine. Oh really?

I heard the opposite. No, it's at the moment it's dry season. I'll be fine. So it's beautiful. so like your hair will be fine oh really I heard the opposite no it's at the moment it's dry season I'll be fine so it's beautiful if you how much time are you going to be there for

only a couple of days but then I'm going to Uluru after that oh which is sensational and absolutely I'm so excited absolutely get up for sunrise

do not miss do not miss sunrise I've got to return the hike well Koshi's retiring so that's a really good point oh are you going to be there for that I'll wake up with sunrise sorry yeah yep sorry I'll absolutely send you a list but there's a really good point. Oh, are you going to be there for that? I'll wake up with sunrise. Sorry, yeah, yep, sorry.

I'll absolutely send you a list, but there's a couple things. If you're only in Darwin for a short amount of time, go to Litchfield, which is a national park. It's probably about an hour and a half outside of Darwin. I'm so sorry, Tim. I've got chocolate sultanas. I'm salivating. Can we eat one quickly and then get back to Darwin? I've already got one in my mouth. Oh my goodness. That's a gift from us to you.

Yes, enjoy. I'm going to try one. Oh my goodness. You know what the best thing about this diamond thing is, though? Yeah. Who are you going with? Oh, it's some of Sean's family. They've got a wedding on. Amazing. And it's a wedding where shorts are encouraged.

Oh, my God. You badger people. I'm going to fucking do that for my wedding. Even if I'm married in Antarctica, it's a shorts encouraged kind of wedding. That is just music to my fucking ears. Do you know where they're getting married? No. I'm very much going with the flow.

I don't even know where my flight is tomorrow. Are they good? I'm sorry. Back to the Sultanas, yes. I just want to say, and then I'll go back to Darwin tips. You don't have to. You can keep drugs. You can keep dick.

This is heaven. I'm all for this chocolate to sultana ratio There's like this Little ant sized sultana in the middle And a fuck load of chocolate This is good If the listeners have never had them Pick them up in your next

Woolies shopping cart Oh my god Wow These are quite gorgeous Take them off me Okay well you two can talk about Darwin off the cloud We should go

It's been a very long episode Yeah we better We hope this podcast made you feel At least 3% better today. So we do. Tim, it was a pleasure. The pleasure was mine. I was pleasure.

Well, no, I was when your dacks were off. No, the dacks weren't off. Sorry, just the trousers. They were off. Don't put those thoughts in there. I was imagining them off

so that's where I'm getting going on. Leave us a review If you like Five stars please And we'll see you guys in a week Have fun at Darwin Mitchell Thank you What should we make today's question

On Spotify For the comments below Chocolate covered sultanas Just that question Can we just do that Chocolate covered sultanas Hit Like hit or miss

Yeah you're right Hit the clear Yeah We can bring that back Alright I'm going to eat this whole bag. I've got to stop. They're amazing, Tim.

Yeah, I had to stop too. As are you. Worthless Twink on Instagram. We'll see you soon. Thanks, guys. Can't wait for the podcast. See you there. Love you, darling.

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