Is It Just Me? - #23: Easter in Isolation

Episode Date: April 11, 2020

Our isolation show recorded from home 🎤🏡 In this episode: Tracy Grimshaw's dogs have stalkers (05:58)  Are birds louder during COVID-19? (11:19)  Churi's fan club (14:47)  Gold Digger - finding out about Churi's love life (22:31)  Our "secret segment" ADDebrief (41:15)   Follow us @coupleofmitchesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oh hi guys, before we get into the show, I need to just let you know that we're breaking up. No we're not. But Jenna and I are keeping the kid, and it's Siamese, and we just can't separate it because its heart is in the middle of the seam and there's just nothing the surgeons can do. We've asked them and they said the heart is right where they'd cut, so it'll die. They said the heart is quite essential these days. They said the heart is needed. They looked at Mitch and went,

no, you've got one. And then everyone at the surgery laughed. Oh, we laughed. Anyway, we thought before we started the show, we'd give you a little FYI. Obviously, you're listening to the full show podcast right now, but you probably notice every week we also upload a handful of the best bits from each show.

We put them up as like separate, much shorter podcasts because the full show is like on a good day, around an hour. Some days it goes much longer than that. I don't have time for a one-hour podcast every week. We understand that you have other things to do. Yeah, I usually save long podcasts for like flights and road trips and stuff. When people say they listen to the whole episode, on Monday, the day it's released, don't you have clothes to wash?

I mean, I'm very glad that you do listen to the full show and we're grateful that you're here, but we're also aware that people are busy. Yeah, get your shit done. So what we've done is we thought we'd give people the option to listen to little bits at a time. For example, I was Googling how to cook a steak and you know the optimal time to cook a steak?

What is it? Ten minutes. Oh, really? Yeah, six on one side and four on the other and then you rest it so the blood drains out. So that sounded very awful, didn't it? So while you're doing that, listen to a little mini episode. Sounds like the same thing you do with, like,

a corpse after you've murdered someone. Rest it so the blood goes out. Hang it from its ankles from the rafters and the blood drains into the pool. That would take about ten minutes. Come on, is it just me? Hey, listen, fellow serial killers, we're catering to you too. Let's get on with the show.

People do some weird shit. A surge in young people inhaling the gas from cooking canisters known as mains to get high. Some things make more sense than others. I've done everything for you. I've put my career on hold. I could have been anything if I'd had the talent. Brace yourself for observations you didn't ask for. This is leadership.

I think he's one of the greatest leaders we've ever had. Do you? Yeah. Well, goodo. This is Is It Just Me? Hosted by a couple of Mitches. Should one of us be Mitch and the other be Mitchell just to make things easier? You're Mitch.

I only call you Mitchell when you're being annoying. You always call me Mitchell. Oh. Now, here's Mitch Julie and Mitchell Coombs. Oh, here we are. Very different kind of show today, everyone. Hello, team. Hello.

Yes, it's going to be a little bit different. We're not in the studio today. And we're not even in the same room right now. Remember when we were coming up with a backup plan if coronavirus forces into isolation? We were going to do the show from my lounge room. It was going to be so much fun. Doing Zumba?

Yes, Jenna was going to do a Zumba tutorial. Well, that was never confirmed, let's be real. It was. I think it was, actually. I was quite keen for a Zumba tutorial from Jenna, but obviously the restrictions around coronavirus and social distancing have really tightened.

So we've all got the portable mics from home. I'm currently on my back porch with a wine in hand. There's some fucking rat children running around on their bikes. You know how those kids that don't have backyards often play around in like the apartment complex carpet? Yes, yes, yes. Riding their green machines on their Heelys. Push them into an oncoming truck, I say. Do you know what one of them has? Did you guys ever have a zoingo boingo

as a kid? Oh my God, I had a zoingo. No, I had a heart foundation one gifted to me and I popped it on the first boing. That is so ironic because heart foundation is all about heart health. Well, I grew up in the 40s, so I'm not aware of what you're talking about. Of course, of course. You just had the polio injection. That was your fun. Yes, indeed. Jenna, I must say, it's lovely to have you back.

We had lots of people passing on their condolences for the loss of your grandmother. I hope you don't mind me asking, but the new social distancing restrictions around coronavirus and stuff, did that mean that you couldn't go to your own grandmother's funeral yeah that is correct yes i was unable to go oh jenna oh that is so rough and um when she was dying only one person could go into the room at a time oh that's horrible do you reckon you guys will do anything else like you know how some people like to do their own little balloon letting go ceremonies and stuff? Because I feel like, oh, the lack of closure would be just awful.

Sorry to start on such a dark note. No, I actually like that idea. You know, maybe even like a family lunch or something. Just a way to remember her. It's a tricky time for families and stuff. Can I tell you that I literally just received in the mail an Easter care package from my mother because I won't be able to travel back to the country

for Easter. I'm wearing my bunny ears right now. I look tragic. Can I just say something? I've got like a 480p Skype camera going on, but you look like a housewife straight out of the middle of Picton. You have what looks to be rosé, even though there's no camera quality,

I can still see the pigment of the pink. It is rosé. Now, is it a dressing gown that you're wearing, darling? My word it is. And Easter bunny ears, like a retired playboy bunny. Ugg boots, I don't know if you can see those. Ugg boots and socks. You look like Cat in the Hat if he had bloody Alzheimer's.

Like, what is this look? This has been me all week because I'm on annual leave from work at the moment, which means unless I have a valid excuse to leave the house, I can't. And I've been, it seems every day that goes by, it creeps forward an hour that I feel it's appropriate to start drinking wine. Yeah, I had a wine the other day at I think it was 1pm. Did you really? That's early for a wine.

Anyway, we are all self-isolating. We're here. We're still going to put on a show for you guys. It's going to be different and bear with us. There might be, you know, niggles and sniggles, but who knows? Can I tell you what? We were toying with the idea of whether or not to just sneak into the studio or not. But then I was inspired to stay and broadcast from home

after I saw on Channel 9 that Her Royal Highness Tracy Grimshaw is doing a current affair from her spare bedroom. And I thought if it's good enough for Tracy Grimshaw, it's good enough for me. Did you see it, Mitch? I think you sent me the video, but I didn't watch it. I just couldn't bear to do it. Her sitting in a blazer in her bloody study.

I've got the audio with me. Oh, my God, play it. Take a listen. Hello, I'm Tracey Grimshaw. Welcome to A Current Affair. Tonight we're coming to you from my bedroom, and there's something I never thought I'd say. It's a spare room, and in the interests of staying home,

we'll be here for a while. I have a small crew here for the first night, which is allowed because they're, of course, at work. As you can see, it is a little bit cramped, but we have to do it. We begin with the government's monster effort to save the Australian economy. Do you like how she just carries on like it's just business as usual? I was like, no, no, I can't take you seriously

when you're sitting in front of your Panasonic in your spare room. It was the worst home studio I've ever seen. Everything. And the way that she says it, I'm Tracy Grimshaw broadcasting tonight from my spare room. Like, I'm Tracy Grimshaw broadcasting tonight from my sex room. Turn that off. Well, that's what I was thinking.

Do you reckon she took them into the spare room because she's like, I don't want people in my bedroom. That's where shit gets frisky. Yeah, and that story would leak. People love writing articles about Tracy Grimshaw. Well, it was all over Daily Mail and stuff when she was broadcasting from home and it sounded like it was going to be permanent. But guess what?

Literally a day later, she's back in the studio. This is what she said. Hello, I'm Tracey Grimshaw. Welcome to A Carrot Affair. Now, I know you all love the dogs. Me too. But I've had to leave them at home and come back to the studio tonight while we sort out some logistical issues. Did you see the video of her dogs running into her home studio. No. I never knew Tracy Grimshaw was so butch. She's literally like, sit down. Like she is so. And so apparently the dogs were causing some issues and that's why she had to go back to

the studio at Channel 9. Well, I heard something different. What did you hear? Confidentially. Yeah. Well, we're recording. It's on the record. Yes, but we're all friends. It's all good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're recording. It's on the record. Yes, but we're all friends.

It's all good. Yeah, yeah. So basically, apparently, somebody was stalking Tracy. They were following the Channel 9 van to her house. Oh. Which is why they had to move back to the studio. Oh, no. So they knew where her palatial mansion was.

Exactly. And now they know the names of her dogs. They've been calling out for them. Oh, you're kidding me. Oh, right, because of that video. I think I saw it on Daily Mail, this video. It was behind the scenes. And you'll notice that she did upload it to her own Instagram,

but now it's gone. Wow. Tracy Grimshaw has stalkers. Imagine if her dogs were named after Aussie TV icons. Bert, get off Carrie Ann. She does not want you on her. But anyway, we're broadcasting from home. We're going to persist and see if we have as much luck as Tracy did, right?

Yeah, I think we'll be okay. We're doing okay thus far. But, hey, if this is your first time listening, good fucking luck. This is not the episode to listen to for the first time. But we start the show every week with it is it just me it's something we've noticed something we hate or appreciate um why don't mitch mitch you go first but mine today is um how do i put this i don't want you guys to think differently of me when i tell you but i have a feeling that i'm

going to be judged mostly by you m Mitch, but definitely by the listeners. The wording won't be good. I haven't nutted it out yet, but I'm anxious for it. It's the first time I've actually been anxious. Now, that is quite an extraordinary assumption that I would ever judge you, Mitch. When have I ever been the type to criticise you? God, please.

I feel like I've got a second mum when I'm talking to you sometimes. I mean, look at me. Look at me in my dressing gown on the back porch. That doesn't really do me any favours. But before we get into my Is It Just Me, I'm going to kick it off this week. Let me tell you that later on, we're launching a brand new segment that I'm calling Gold Digger. This came about after last week's show when we had Nat filling in as a guest host. Jenna, you weren't here, but I learned a lot about Mitch in the space of this one show. Jenna, did you know that Mitch, A, sketches, like he draws pictures of people. What? And B, he is a fully trained opera singer. No.

No, no, no. No, no, no. Jenna, please, don't pretend someone's just told you the meaning of life. It's not the end of the no. No, no, no, no, no. Janet, please, don't pretend someone's just told you the meaning of life. It's not the end of the world. No way. Well, I didn't know these things about Mitch, and I said that, and he accused me of not asking him enough questions about him, and that's the reason I didn't know. And so that's why I've got this segment, Gold Digger, coming up.

I'm essentially just going to be interviewing him, and then next week you'll do me, the week after we'll'll do Jenna. It's basically, we just dig for gold. Keep asking question after question until we struck gold and find a good story that we didn't know about each other. All right? All right. We're waffling. We can't see each other, so we don't know when to bloody end. Mitch, why don't you start the show with your first idiom? All right, let's go. Is it just me or...? Have you noticed birds getting... Oh, right on cue. Have you noticed birds getting louder ever since self-isolation began? Yes.

No, I haven't. Jenna, you're with me. You've noticed? Oh, absolutely. Whenever I'm at my parents' house on the weekend, oh, the birds at 5am, I swear to God. But, Jenna, you live in an all marble palace it all echoes and reverberates through the walls and hallowed halls no you're talking about your own

house i'm talking about mine well unlike the two of you i'm exceedingly poor so i live in an apartment in five dock i'm currently overlooking the trees which always have birds in them i'm always appreciating the nature but for for some reason, ever since the whole coronavirus pandemic really kicked off and became intense, and people were staying home more, I noticed the birds were being louder. And I've spoken to other people, and they've said the same thing. And so I was curious enough to go and do a bit of research about it. And I found an article that said, the coronavirus has drastically transformed the world in sound. The routine cacophony of daily life has calmed, lending more weight to noises left behind,

such as bird calls. Now, not only that, but apparently some birds in metro areas have conditioned their chirps to be extra loud so that they can send warning signals to other birds, to be extra loud so that they can send warning signals to other birds, even in amongst loud traffic and stuff. So not only is everything quieter, but also every fucking bird in Sydney is like a person walking out of a concert where their ears are like blaring and there's a little bit deaf. They're like, Oh,

how good was that? Oh my God. So this is, no, this is actually really cool because I read that I might be wrong, but Australia, sorry, Sydney, had the clearest air it's had in over 200 years because there's no planes in the skies, no cars on the highways, no factories are open.

There's just no pollution. The waters are clearer. I've got friends who live in Melbourne who were filming the beach and the water you could see through the sun was shining through it like the world is kind of like hey this is nice i needed this reset that's insane i mean even look at the canals in in venice like they're so clear now are they used to be so murky yeah i saw that too that's nuts oh jen i remember when we were on the canals in italy i was fucking munted I don't remember much from that day.

Nor do I. Nor do I. So that's funny that there's all these perks that are kind of arising out of this coronavirus thing. Do you know what I was thinking the other day? Apparently, it takes 21 days for human beings to break a habit. So if you don't chew your nails for 21 days, then you should, in theory, be fine. Do you reckon after months in isolation, people would just get used to not having access to restaurants? What if restaurants reopen and just no one goes out?

Because we've conditioned to being like this. By the way, can you guys hear that over the Skype call? I feel like the birds knew I was talking about them. I can hear them, but it's not like you're a frog. It sounds like you're in the Mindamara rainforest. I know. I'm in the inner west of Sydney, but it literally feels like I'm in the middle of nowhere sometimes,

and that's just how I like it. An Uber driver driving me home once made the comment, I reckon you live on the quietest street in Sydney. And I said, and I'm proud of it. Oh, that's really cute. Good itch and look, educational, informative. Keep an ear out for the loud birds, Mitch, I'm telling you. Will do.

All right, that's a great one. Shall I jump into the loud birds, Mitch, I'm telling you. Will do. All right. That's a great one. Shall I jump into mine? Oh, go for your life. Is it just me or am I the only one in this podcast that has a fan group? What? What do you mean about a fan group? Don't judge me. I genuinely am interested and I think you would, Mitch, but I haven't looked. I don't know. I know you're active with your fans. What do you mean by a fan group? Don't judge me. See, I genuinely am interested and I think you would, Mitch,

but I haven't looked. I don't know. I know you're active with your fans. What do you mean, though? Well, a fan group has been made for me on Twitter. Oh, do you mean like a group chat? A group chat and people have made me their handles. Oh, yeah, okay.

It's called Mitch Nation or hashtag Mitch Nation, I think. I don't know. Imagine Mitch Nation. Everyone would be diabetic. And so this has all come about because of your celeb interviews you do on your radio show, right, all these fangirls who – Yes. And this is not me being critical, but they are quite –

they aren't afraid to show their love, which I think is quite nice. Correct. Some people are reserved. And so they were like, yeah, I enjoy this radio host. They might have tuned in for one of their favourite singers, Harry Styles. They heard you, they liked you, and they're not afraid to let the world know.

So they changed their Twitter handle to all sorts of stuff. What was it? Mitch Nation. There's a hashtag before it sometimes. They've all come from the big celeb chat. So Harry Styles, I reckon, got me 200 followers and then i did ellie golding which got me 50 reader aura which got me more blah blah but lizzo which got me like 300 and then those like maybe 10 of the fans stay and then they all go into mitch nation

and then today they messaged me and they said hi we're gonna make a fan cam of you what and i said i'm not on i'm not on only fans please don't said, no, it's not that. And then they said, just send us a video of you waving to the camera. So I have. I don't know what that is. Jenna, can you Google what a fan cam is? No. Okay, that's fair enough. Hey, it could be, I'm not sure, but it could be like a mash-up of all the people in this fan group because in the year, I think it was 2016, in answer to your question, I've had a couple of fan

groups over the years. There's the Coombs Club that I don't think anyone's written a message in that group chat in years, to be honest. And they used to be the Honey Coombs back in the day, but this was all from my YouTubing stuff. And they used to be the Honey Cooms back in the day. But this was all from my YouTubing stuff. So the year 2016, I woke up on my birthday and I'd been tweeted a link from the Cooms Club.

And they'd all done a mashup of saying happy birthday to me. It was the sweetest thing I've ever seen in my life. But the difference with that is that I wasn't involved in that video. So I'm not sure why your little fan club club mitch would be asking you to film yourself well do you want to know the definition of a fan cam i found the definition of fan cam it's basically footage of a celebrity taken by a fan most likely to be of low quality most commonly seen in the k-pop sphere oh that's me yep i love seol yeah so jenna i when i was planning this because often i bounce at idjim off you not mitch so we're both coming in blind you said that you also have a fan club ish well i am part of a fan club um i am part of the retired greyhound group on facebook this conversation can

end here is it just me don't forget to subscribe and leave a review on your podcast app or follow on spotify okay every week we get up here on this podcast begging you to follow our social media subscribe to the podcast on Apple, leave a review, et cetera, et cetera. But I have a different favor to ask of you guys this week. So because I'm on annual leave at the moment, I'm spending my free time editing a lot of the videos that I didn't have time to do when we filmed them. So there's going to be a lot of videos popping up on the couple of Mitch's Facebook and Instagram feed so not only are we asking you to follow us on social media but if there's anyone out there that would feel so inclined as to support us one thing you can do is just tag a

friend share the video maybe message it to them because you know what some people don't understand podcasts so asking them to oh you should go listen to this podcast is actually like a big education for them. But even if they just follow our social media and watch the videos, that's more than enough for us. So if there's anyone in your life that you think has a similar sense of humour to you and us, tell a friend, as they say. That sounds like you're doing an infomercial on Channel 7. The first 13 callers to send a video also get a microplane.

Shave cheese, fruits, vegetables. I'm sorry. Did I sound too polite and, like, enthusiastic? I'll tell it to you bluntly. I don't want all these fucking video edits I do to be a waste of time. Show your friends. No, I was just very impressed. It just came across as very, you know,

who's that little short pudgy guy on Studio 10? Me. Not you. No, not not you you're not short what's his name carson or something are you talking about jonathan coleman jonathan coleman the man the myth the legend he does all the infomercials i'd buy anthrax if he sold if he was selling it to me oh the birds are chiming in again yeah i can hear those birds too mitch guys can you calm down you had your moment i spoke about you earlier it's me it's fine it's fine it sounds like you're on a nature walk at the you know i keep wanting to reference the minima rainforest that's because i went on a school excursion there in year seven

and um it's home of their natural lyrebirds and i remember everyone going the lyrebirds make sounds they try to fool you so they're not hunted if we're quiet we can hear them if you hear an elephant it's just a lyrebird if you hear a lion it's just a lyrebird they can also mimic the sound of chainsaws and cars really 10 minutes later we hear teacher goes there it is a lyrebird in its natural habitat then a man with a chainsaw turns around the corner, he's chopping down dead wood. I'm like, bitch, you lied. That's an actual chainsaw.

We all got excited. Oh, my God. Did you go to this bird sanctuary or whatever on April the 1st? This sounds like a joke. No, it's true. And the lyrebird can mimic any sound it hears. That's how it gets rid of predators because it can mimic the sound of a tiger or a lion or a bear and it just does it and then it's it's predators run off yes actually that is true

that that is true i went on a day trip um in victoria on the way to sovereign hill which is where i went to that gold mine and they told us about that liar bird as well which is where i went to that gold mine in 1800 i was killed was killed, struck by a goldmine. Well, Jenna, I'm glad you've mentioned goldmine. That's a beautiful segue into our new segment, Gold Digger, that we're launching today. So, Mitch, you're going to be so proud of me. Usually when we're in the studio, you're the one that goes wild.

You love a good sound effect. You're always playing them. Well, let me tell you, I've been bored this week. I've got a little bit carried away. So I found possibly the worst song in the world called Gold Digger that is now our official opener for this brand new segment. Hit it. Down into the mine. Yep, here we go. We're out of the cage elevator. Did you put sound effects of, did you Google winch sound effects? No. That metal elevator going down a mine, that sound effect actually came from,

this is so gay, it came from the Billy Elliot musical soundtrack. Oh, shut up. At the end of the song, We Once Were Kings, where they go down into the mine. I'm going to play this intro again. We're doing this segment multiple times. It's going to catch on, I'm telling you guys. So Gold Digger is our new segment designed to learn more about each other.

This came about because I found out that Mitch has been hiding all these golden stories under his belt. He's a sketch artist. He is an opera singer. All these things I had no idea about. And he blamed me for not asking enough questions about him. So that's where this segment's come from. We're going to take turns interviewing each other. You're the one copying the questions this week, my friend.

I just think this is a cheap excuse of a friend. This stuff naturally comes out. If you weren't constantly berating me and I didn't have to defend myself 24-7, maybe you'd learn that I have a beautiful diaphragm. Well, alright, then we won't do it. Jenna, have you got Jenna's junk? No, no, I'm very, no, stay down in the mine. It's nice and cool down here. I like it. Okay, great. Do you want to see my pickaxe? Oh, God. Yes.

Yes. So, obviously, there's several lines of questioning. We could go down to try and find some gold. So, I might just kick off with, oh, God, there's dogs howling and shit in the background. Oh, really? Sit down. Oh, don't do it to the dogs. It's a Cavoodle.

Oh, that made it worse. That made it worse. Oh, shut up, mutt. it to the dogs. It's a Cavoodle. Oh, that made it worse. That made it worse. Oh, shut up, mutt. I'm going inside. This has been a lovely time on the back porch, but no. Take your rose, though. Don't forget the bunny ears. Maybe they can see the bunny ears and they think you're a giant toy.

Oh, Mitch, don't make too much noise or we'll have another Beaconsfield on our hands. Too soon. All right, let's start digging for gold, shall we? Here's mine. Ow, careful. Get me in me eye. Oh, what have we got here? Okay, Mitchell, I'm going to start digging around your school life.

Let's see if we can find some gold there, okay? Ask away. What school did you go to? I went to Walloway High School in Cronulla region. Fun fact, it's actually built on mangroves. So every year it sinks one millimetre. I'm bored. I know a fun fact when I hear it, darling, and that's not it.

I'm not finding any gold there. What about who was your favourite teacher? Oh, God, this is hard because I loved all my teachers. I had such a close relationship. Boring. I'm going to start digging about elsewhere. Okay. What have we got?

Careful, you'll get it in Jenna's hair. Oh, you beauty. What have we got here, Eureka? We've struck gold here, kids. Let's see. Or it could all just be bronze. Who knows? Let's have a dig around, all right?

Oh, it's me. Your relationship, Mitch. Oh. So, okay, Hayden, your boyfriend boyfriend how long have you been together again um as of today um 18 months 18 months okay um i rip into you a lot for still living at home with your parents do you see yourself moving out of home anytime soon and if so will you be moving in with your boyfriend? Yeah, so that's the next plan. We're both currently like, Jesus Christ,

we can't live at home much longer. And we both like love, like I just love having a space and just like putting all my shit in it and getting my Nintendo Switch set up. And I've got my rooms all smart room and I've got the lights and everything. And I've got my Siri and you leave my bedroom and all of a sudden it's Suzanne Gray and bloody Howard sells storage. like it's my family house so I'd like to just have like

a space that I can be and exist with him and he he wants the same well let's go next step after you move in together presumably do you do you see yourself marrying Hayden um yeah for sure definitely I'd like to really know yeah and I know we've both discussed it um you've discussed it oh wow oh I just got I was blushed for you yeah you two giggle the only relationship you've had is a bloody 12 months 10 subscription bitch I just blushed for you because I was happy for you there was absolutely no need to have a dig at me sorry I can't I can't I can't see you so i thought they were snickers um yeah for sure um i think every couple at the one year mark sort of reassesses

everything and goes jesus it's been 12 months because the honey like i'll be our honeymoon phase is still well and truly going strong do you still have sex as often as you did when you first started seeing each other well i work nights So the only option is weekends because- Do you? You've never mentioned that. Oh, you work nights, do you? Do you have a team? Oh, you are-

Don't ask me a question then knock the answer. I want to take a little rewind now because I remember there was a period in time before you were working as late nights as you currently are. I finished around 2 p.m. And then you would start around 12pm. So there was a brief window where we're both in the office at the same time. I was the only person that knew about your secret gay relationship. Everyone else in the office thought you were straight. Sometimes you'd show up late to work and you'd be sweaty. You'd be flustered. You'd

have messy hair. And I think I know exactly what you've been up to because your boyfriend lives not far from the radio station we work at and the boss would be like, where have you been, mate? And you'd come up with an excuse, oh, sorry, I had to take my nanda, you know, whatever. And I'm there thinking I know exactly what you've been doing. You've been chock-a-block up that slam piece you found on Tinder, haven't you?

First of all, we didn't meet on Tinder. And secondly, no, I was just flustered. How did you find him again? You sniffed him out on Instagram. I slid into his DMs on Instagram. Yeah, right. I actually said, because I'm a cash cock for Kiss, oh, you always say that.

Shut the fuck up. I am the cash cock, yes, and I have photos of myself dressed as a cash cock. And I had never slid into anyone's DMs before, and I just said, hey, I know this is unexpected, don't take it the wrong way, but I hope you like this unsolicited cock pic. Went down the street. Where did you find him in the first place? Did you literally just type in hashtag Instagay or Sydney Gay? Because I know a lot of people put that on their Insta posts, Sydney Gay.

So I believe he followed me first and I was like, okay, I'll just like a whole bunch of photos i did he did and then it sort of nothing went nothing happened for a while and i was kind of like i had this crush on this guy i stalked him on facebook friends on instagram nothing more and then i remember i had tinder at the time but i'd never spoken to anyone at length like ever had any conversation with anyone um anyway i remember i had seen him put a post up at Sydney Uni, and this is so embarrassing. This is actually gold.

I've never told anyone this. I remember I would drive under the harbour tunnel on my way to work, full knowing that Sydney Uni was above me, and I'd go like 40 kilometres an hour, turn my Tinder on, make the setting 10 metres just in the hope that we'd match when I was underneath. And then I'd like keep swiping. No, no, no. Yes. No. And I couldn't find him. And it was devastating. Oh, Mitchell. That's so sweet. I don't know if it's the rosé making me a bit tiddly, but I was tearing up. That's very sweet. Although were you tindering while driving?

I know it's not good, but I've got the drive down pack. It's not good. I don't endorse it, but hey, we struck a line. Anyway, one night at work, I was on Tinder and he came up. Now I know he lives five minutes from work. I had no idea. And he came up and I super liked him. I'm like, I'm not going to let my fucking chances go.

That's a good move though, because being Instagram mutuals and then matching on Tinder, that kind of solidifies, yep, we're interested in each other in a way other than just friends or like colleagues on Instagram, you know. 100%. Once we started talking, we haven't stopped. I don't think there's been a day since that first DM slide that we haven't spoken.

I can vouch for that. You are literally always texting each other. Okay. So I don't know about you, Jenna, but I reckon we're struck gold in terms of relationship questions. Do you reckon we keep digging here? Oh,

let's keep digging. All right, here we go. I've got a good feeling about this one. Ow. Oh, this is a good one. Here's the good shit.

All right, Mitchell. Finally, you've said that you and Hayden have spoken about getting married one day. Are you going to wait for him to propose or is he going to wait for you to propose? Oh, I think I don't know why. He asked me to be official and boyfriends. But I said, I love you first.

So I guess it's anyone's game. But I guess I'd probably ask. I am definitely it's anyone's game. But I guess I'd probably ask. I am definitely the romantic in the relationship. Oh, my God. Like, you saw what I made him for Valentine's Day. Like, it took me fucking three days. One of my listeners wrote in actually asking, how did that trip go?

Because you planned a Melbourne trip for him. The main reason being to see Miley Cyrus live. She didn't fly here because of Corona. Was it a good weekend still? It was really nice. It was the last weekend anyone was able to fly iniley Cyrus live. She didn't fly here because of Corona. Was it a good weekend still? It was really nice. It was the last weekend anyone was able to fly in New South Wales and Victoria. So it was kind of like the last escape.

It was really nice. We went to the art museum. We had really good food. We went to Nobu, which was super fancy. Didn't have ramen, though. Didn't have ramen, no, Jenna, sadly not. But, you know, next time. There's always next time.

But we had a really good trip. Nothing went went to plan but we just shopped and had fun and sort of had a little um like just ran around town together it was really cute we're only there for 48 hours that's cool you're not the sort of person that gets like thrown if things don't go according to plan i used to be really bad at that but i think i'm getting a bit better but yeah i don't think you're the type that would just be like, yeah, well, whatever. We'll just, you know, roll with the punches. No, and I love spontaneous. I love romantic. Like I, like literally the first time we met, first time we met, I drove to his house, kissed him and drove off. Oh, I remember you telling me that story. I was like, good move. That was at a time when you were

very inexperienced. You've actually overtaken me in the gay relationship department. You're more experienced than I. But you were like checking in with me and getting advice. You were like, was that a good move? And I was like, yeah, darling, that's great. Yeah, it was very, you know me, I like to, in my eyes, I'm like always in the movie. Like I'm always like trying to do something.

Yes, I know. I literally had a dinner at 6.30 in the city and it was six. And we were DMing for three weeks, FaceTiming every night. We never met. But we were really falling for each other. And he was like, do you have time to come over and cuddle? And I was in the closet. I'm like, oh, my God, no.

I couldn't have got a meeting in the city with my boss. And then I'm like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm young. I'm cool. I've got good hair. I can go. What's your address?

He said his address. It was two minutes from where i was i just left work yeah so i'm like oh my god so i literally turned the car around drove there put the window down and was like hi is this is this easter i like made some stupid joke and he was like yeah and then we just kissed for the first time after talking every day for a couple weeks and then i said i'm sorry I've got a dinner to go to. And I sped off. Oh my God.

I bet he would have like jumped straight in his queer group chat, been like, guys, oh my God, the craziest thing has happened. Now I've got a couple more questions for you. Do you ever worry that settling down this early, because you literally came out of the closet and 10 minutes later, you're practically engaged. Do you ever worry that you're going to be robbed of that experience of like being the young gay that goes out clubbing pashing randoms you know being a young single gay do you ever worry that you're not going to

experience that not really i like i and this is you know i don't feel it's as caught up in my identity as it is for other people um so it, my life doesn't hinge on that at all. Like I have so many other things that are on my list to do. Like I'm very career driven, very career focused. And I've got so many things that I want to get done that I literally couldn't care less. And if I have a life partner that's like, oh my God, we can laugh, we can have fun, it's great.

And we're having the intimacy and I can get my romantic side out. Like who cares if it's, you know um my first relationship on my 50th also for god's sake i'm i sweat like there's no tomorrow nothing worse than a group orgy and all my gay friends like oh i put i put my dick in a piece of fiberglass and someone sucked it it could have been a grey hound but i think it was a man i I'm like, what? What do you mean? No, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.

I've never been interested in, like, anything more than a twosome. Threesomes, nah, no. Orgies, nah. The people that go to those random spas and saunas and just have the in the dark and just total randoms give them gobbies. I'm like, that is, like, my nightmare. Just FYI here, no kink shame. Door's open. do whatever you like. We love it.

But definitely not for me. I just couldn't do it. I don't have the confidence. I don't have the body confidence. It's the premise of the podcast. Is it just me? And I'm assuming because so many other gays get amongst that nonsense, it's not just them. Correct.

We're in the minority here saying that it's not for us. One other thing I was wondering, quite important to me actually. Yeah. You said that you're going to tie the knot with Hayden down the track. Neither you or he have brothers. So the obligatory best man role does not go to a brother. So is it going to be me? I'm going to be the best man, surely. Oh my God. You know what? This is genuine. You've struck gold. I really have honestly thought about asking you. It's an actual thought that I have had very recently because my sister asked me. My sister, they thought I was straight, both of them, genuinely. And they were like, my sister Becky was the oldest one, was like, oh, this is great.

She's like, ever since Iessica parker at a gay wedding on sex in the city i've always wanted to be a gay a gay person's best man or best girl and wear a you know a jumpsuit and she's like can i be yours i'm like of course you can i don't care so i'd have my two sisters as my best man or best sisters i don't know well you can't have two best men there's a hierarchy there's there's like the party, like two groomsmen, and then one is like the elite bitch. Now, I'm not trying to lead you down a certain path, but I would like you to bear in mind just how organized I am. Now, I will not fail you one bit on that day. I won't forget a thing. I'll run that tight ship, all right? I'll have your sisters in the pity party

as well. It's all good. But I reckon I would be the best top dog of the groom's party. Okay. Well, here's the thing. I don't want to party with those penis straws. I don't want to pin the dick on the dude. I don't want to. I would never do that to you. I know you well enough.

You know what you do. Okay. You're in first place currently. Yes. I'm not going to commit and I can't commit because I just need to go see where things are. And I've got Gordy at work who I was basically his best man at his wedding. Oh, Gordy at work. He'll forget to turn up.

He'll have a kid by then. Honestly, it'll be my priority. Jenna, are you going to be one of the bloody flower girls or something? You know what? I was just thinking flower girl. I think I would suit that role to a T. Jenna, you could be my flower girl. you could even catch the bouquet okay oh this has been a beautiful segment i can't wait to drill you next week oh god that's so to speak hey one other question i had do you ever worry that your relationship may impact your social life because

you mentioned gordy just then and there's a few other people friends in your life that you would have had more time for to hang out with before you were in a relationship obviously your relationship's your priority that's as it should be but do you ever think to yourself oh I don't spend as much time with my friends anymore oh don't worry about it I know it of course I do all my friends have given up on trying to contact me. Weekends, I only have time for my family and Hayden. I love my family. I love his family. I'm very family-orientated on both sides. So to see them, then to see him, then to spend quality time with him,

and then to see friends, I just can't do it. And that's not even a cop-out. It just really is hard. It makes sense. But I also am – here's my thing. I also have been bad before this, like before Hayden. I don't reply to messages today sometimes. And I will ignore messages, not out of rudeness, out of complete and utter laziness. I'm a great friend and I'm a good person and I'm a fun friend,

but I'm a terrible, terrible friend. It's important to be self-aware. Okay, good. friend. It's important to be self-aware. Okay, good. Exactly right. That's actually something I often worry about when it comes to being single and dating and stuff. Because I actually think one of the reasons that I don't try and get a relationship is because I don't see myself ever being able to give up spending time with my friends. And what happens if I end up dating someone who is like you or is like Hayden, where they want to spend all the spare time they have with their partner. I just, I can't see myself giving up that time with my friends. If they want to hang with me and my friends too, and obviously there'd be quality one-on-one time as well, but I just, it freaks

me out the thought of someone expecting me to want to be with them all the time like i would need that balance oh i i felt the same and but but once you have a relationship where it's sort of they become your best friend in a way you sort of don't miss it because you're getting it it's sort of all melds into one we yeah i still feel like i'm getting my fix and then i feel bad for not seeing my friends but it it just becomes your priority. Well, look, I think it's safe to say, Jenna, we've struck gold. I've learned a lot about Mitch in the space of this segment. I can't wait for the next couple of weeks. We're going to be digging gold with you, Jenna, and you guys are going to do the same with me. And I'm, I'm an open book. You can ask me whatever. You know, what could be cool down the track?

We, if you're listening and you're not part of our super secret facebook group endurant idiots um you can add your selfie and we hit 200 members round of applause for the idiots um you can you can if you've got um a um a gold digger question put it in the chat and you never know we might even throw it in the mix i'm next into to gold dig so i might use it if you've got a question you want to in the chat and you never know, we might even throw it in the mix. I'm next to gold dig, so I might use it. If you've got a question you want to know about Jenna or Mitch, put it in the group and I'll ask it. Remains to be seen whether we're back in the studio or still doing it remotely like we currently are. I reckon it would be easier to do it when I'm not making eye contact. I agree.

I agree. But Jenna, great to have you back. Mitch, great to be here. I can't wait to see you all in person once again and smell the light smell of cooking oil when Jenna enters the room. Yes, that's me. Essential oils when Mitch just walks into the studio. I miss you both. Can't believe I'd ever seen you. No, that's the Katy Perry perfume.

I don't like essential oils. Yes, I'm looking forward to being back again, but I'm glad that we were able to make a show happen this week, guys. Me too. Me too. I actually think it worked well. God, Christ almighty, this was one of the best shows we've ever done. We haven't listened back yet, Chief, so we'll find out. Very true.

Anyway, thanks for listening, guys. We'll be back again next Monday. Join us again. Don't forget to subscribe if you're listening on Apple or follow us on Spotify. Bye, everyone. We'll see you next week. Thanks for listening, guys.

See you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Welcome to A to Debrief. This is our secret segment where we trick people out of listening to the real show. This is meant to be the part where we go a bit rogue and Mitch goes a bit feral on the sound effects. And the reason we trick people out of listening is because I just feel, hand on heart, it's not good content. But you have no panel to play with this week,

so I'm just cheering right now. Thank God. It's all good. We're doing it now. Sorry, guys, one sec. If you can't get it, you can't? Okay, cool. All right, thanks. Thanks for trying. Sorry, that was one sec. If you can't get it, that's all. You can't? Okay, cool. All right, thanks.

Thanks for trying. Sorry, that was Nick the Tech. He tried. He's been trying overnight. They can't connect the live. People are tweeting us currently live. But he actually said the most tweets we've ever had ever since you opened up about your beautiful relationship

with your loving partner Hayden. We're going to have to keep ADD brief, in fact, this week because we went on so long about your beautiful relationship with your loving partner Hayden. We're going to have to keep ADD brief, in fact, this week because we went on so long about your relationship. How did we feel Gold Digger went as a segment team? To be honest, I think it was a great segment, but I'm exhausted. I loved it. Mentally, physically, sexually. Like, it's just been a real whirlwind.

I loved the segment. I think it was good. Well, that's mining for you. That's mining. It's hard. Very, very true. Great point. I feel like I've the segment. Well, that's mining for you. That's mining. It's hard. Very, very true. Great point. I feel like I've got the black lung, but I also think, Mitch, we need a sound effect that gets us

out of the mine, because in theory, theatre of the mind, we're still down in Beaconsfield. Well, maybe that's how I intended it. We're still down there right now. It's fucking freezing. I'll give you the tip. It is cold. There's a lot going on. Sorry, I'm pouring another wine. That's okay. It's fucking freezing. I'll give you the tip. It is cold. There's a lot going on. Sorry, I'm pouring another wine.

That's okay. I can hear it. The signal was good. I really like it. I can't wait to question you two because, Mitch, we're very, very close. You're one of my closest friends. You're in the hierarchies. Oh, you put way too much emphasis on one of.

No, I didn't want to say best friend. Then you'd be like, dogs ass, you're my best friend. My best friend is a sheep from Bougainvillea say best friend Then you'd be like, dog's arse, you're my best friend My best friend is a sheep from Bogan Gate You know, who knows what you'd say Well, just wait until you hear the reaction Don't pre-empt it Because even then you thought that I was going to get angry at you

For saying best friend But in fact the opposite I was like, I don't like the fact that you said one of Darling, I reckon I'd be up there at the top See, I was just anxious That you would have thought it was too soon, but you definitely are. You are my best friend. Oh, okay.

Well, I'm here as well, just letting you guys know. You're my best friend too, Jenna. I love you. Jenna and I have been overseas together, and let me tell you, there are things about this woman that I can't reveal on this podcast. Hold it for gold digger. Hold it. Oh, I will.

Let's just go straight to the Contiki trip where she let loose. Leave her alone. We've all been on a Contiki trip where we let loose. I didn't. Did I, Jenna? No, you didn't. I mean, I was drunk the whole time and Amsterdam was a bit of a blur, but, like, whatever.

That's no different to me in Sydney. Very true, actually. I haven't been overseas with you, Mitch but we what have we done oh we've been to a we've been i stayed with your sister that was actually a really nice trip i enjoyed that got to meet your niece and nephew and your sister that was for the free accommodation we went to a wedding down um hunter valley where she lives yeah that was actually really nice that was a work wedding there for 24 hours. We've had a work trip as well. Do you remember when we – oh, my God. Do you remember when we went to the Gold Coast for the Logie Awards?

Oh, my God. Don't even start me. Now, it takes a lot to get me drunk. I'm a country kid. Like, I can drink till the cows come home. But you are a lightweight. And somehow we managed to get on the same level. I don't know how,

but we thought that it was funny to run around the star in the Gold Coast and steal all the complimentary TV weeks that was put at everyone's motel and we just had this big stack of TV week magazines. And I was like, what the fuck do we do with them now? I took one home to my mum, one home to my nan, one home to my auntie. No joke. They loved them. I remember that.

And we got so incredibly drunk that we, we, I don't know. Did we stay in the same? We had separate rooms. No, no, no. Because I was hosting the show live from the red carpet on the air. So stressful. So as soon as that ended, I pounded some drinks. from the red carpet on the air.

So stressful. So as soon as that ended, I pounded some drinks. And then I had a better hotel room than you because they booked me like a talent room. Do you remember that? Was it the Crown or the Star? Jenna, Google that shit. Honestly, mate. I get confused between the two.

I know that it has the same name as one of the big casinos in Sydney or Melbourne. So it's either the Crown Gold Coast or the Star Gold Coast. I think it's the Crown and then renamed to Jupiter's. Who knows? But I had a luxury penthouse with a king-sized bed and city views and water views. I'm pretty sure you had two king beds, which was why I was like,

I'm just going to be sleeping here, bro. Yeah, I did have two king beds and you were in the fucking Meryton next door, Best Western. Yes. That was actually fun. And you know what? The flight there, do you remember this? The flight there was the day of the Logies and the logies all international listeners we probably mentioned

them before they're like the um the emmys in australia they're the exclusively tv awards um in australia relatively small industry so everyone knows everyone everyone's probably fucked each other um but calling them the em Emmys really removes the Bogan factor. Like, it's so trashy. Oh, God, yeah. The Logies, like, you can't take them too seriously. They're the fucking Logies on the Gold Coast. Our breakfast show, not our radio show, our big, like, you know,

flagship breakfast show, The Today Show, which a lot of other countries have, was hosted by Carl Stefanovic and Lisa Wilkinson. One year, they got so drunk and partied for so long, mostly Carl, the host. It was just Carl. Yeah, Carl didn't sleep, and he hosted the show the next morning, which starts at 5am, still blind drunk.

And they do an on-site broadcast. They were live from the star, pissed, drunk. Is it the star, Jenna, or the crown? It is the star Gold Coast. The star. I got it right. Fuck yeah. So they hosted it in the star, drunk, on the air,

and that was allowed on Australian television. That's the level we're at. No, he got quite a bit of backlash, actually. Jenna, I'm pretty sure, do a bit of Googling for me there. He was actually, like, stood down for, like, a couple of googling for me there he was actually like stood down for like a couple of days because there was such backlash he was taken off the show for a little bit and then had to come back on and apologize really yeah sorry this is backtracking a little bit um we were talking earlier during your idjim Mitch about um like fan videos and stuff. I've managed to track down the video,

the birthday message that my fans back in the day made for me. I messaged one of my former fans. She couldn't care less if I died these days, but no less she got back to me. And she's found the video filled with these birthday messages. It was such a nice surprise. Let me find it. Here we go.

Are you ready for this shit? Yes. I'm on my home internet, bros. It was such a nice surprise. Let me find it. Here we go. Are you ready for this shit? Yes. I'm on my home internet, bros. It's a bit slow. Here we go. Hey, Mitchell. It's Maya or Target. Hey.

Braylee here. It's Jazz. It's Simone. So we've got Simone. We've got Brie. We've got Dan. We've got Bianca. We've got Megan.

We've got Steph. We've got Ebony. They're all from the Coombs Club. Yeah, can we just not listen? Oh my god. I'm over it. I love what a real, genuine and honest person you are. It's honestly really cool to have someone like you to look up

to in a world of, let's be honest, very fake people. So, have a good one. I love you. I love you. I love you and wish you success and happiness in the future. Thanks Mitchell. Of course, Troye Sivan.

Is this the Maya that I know as well? Yes, you know her too. Oh, I like Maya. Yes, I like her. I'm more of a David Jones guy but anyway. You idiot. I used to call her I'm pretty sure I David Jones guy, but anyway. You idiot. I used to call her, I'm pretty sure I used to call her Target. I had quite a close friendship going on with that Coombs Club back in the day.

I'm pretty honest what they're doing now. They've all moved on to bigger and better things. Who's the cool thing now on social media? Mitch Turing, quite clearly. Oh, God, you wish. Now, this is not me being like a bitter and like jealous and like trying to make you feel bad. This is genuine advice. Don't get too attached to it because people do.

If there's one thing I learned from back in the YouTube days when predominantly my audience was teenagers, people go through phases. Like, you know how when you're a teenager, I went through a short sack phase. I went through a My Chemical Romance phase. The love is intense at the time, but it's very short lived. So don't take it personally when the cheery fucking whatever it is dies very quickly.

But then there'll be another wave of teenagers come through. But when you're an adult, I feel like your interest lingers a bit. You've just got a casual like for something. But teenagers, they are obsessed with something and then they don't care anymore no i agree and you're actually very good at advice i remember the first bit of advice you gave me because you were very good when i came out because i have a lot of gay friends but also i i like had admitted it to myself for a while but then i'm like all right let's do the public phase um and you i was like oh my god like i'm consuming all this gay content that i would never otherwise have watched.

Like I still love Drag Race. I spoke about it last week, no, the week before. And I just binged that. I binged Please Like Me, Josh Thomas. I would watch documentaries. I'd watch YouTube videos. I'd watch people coming out and like, I'm like, oh my God, I can't get enough of this.

I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. And then just like the Mitch Nation fans, they just died. I just remember thinking like, yeah, my God, I can't get enough of this. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. And then just like the Mitch Nation fans, they just died. I just remember thinking like, yeah, that's enough of that. I want to see two bloody hets getting it on now. And that's human nature. People lose interest in things. I remember I used to take it really personally.

I'd be like, oh, why does this person not like my YouTube channel anymore? They used to literally tweet me within a matter of seconds being like, oh, my God, I love you. And then all of a sudden they didn't give a shit anymore. But it's normal to not be interested in things that you used to literally tweet me within a matter of seconds being like, oh, my God, I love you. And then all of a sudden they didn't give a shit anymore. But it's normal to not be interested in things that you used to be. Like I could not give a fuck about Miranda Sings anymore. But I remember there was a period where I just cherished every word that came out of her mouth. Me too.

Me too. Yeah, I know what you mean. But I guess it's like if you still have a connection, like I had an obsession with Jimmy Fallon, like an late night talk show host. I've seen them all in America, like live tapings. And I'm not at that level of obsession, but I still like check up on it. Like I love it. You always have a soft spot for them.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like, I, now I still have a soft spot, but other things that I was, what was I obsessed? I used to be obsessed, obsessed with RC boats, like remote control boats. I don't know why. What? Really?

But I used to, yeah, I used to live on the water. And I used to always get RC boats for Christmas. And we'd drive them on the water. I remember one Christmas, I got an RC boat. And I attached, this is awful, especially considering the first couple of episodes, I had, you know, an investigation with Peter going on. Don't make another animal cruelty joke. No, I was six.

I'm not making an animal cruelty joke. This is a point. And I attached a net to the back of the boat because I wanted to catch the baby ducklings that lived in the canal behind my house. And it's not, this isn't for like, I would catch them and then raise them. Anyway, I did it. Wow. Also, my mum, we had a pelican on the pontoon

that used to live there. His name was Percy the Pelican. Mum killed him because she made a Weight Watchers quiche because we all went through a Weight Watchers phase. The whole family had to do it because our net weight was very bad. We were all very fat. And we were like one of those fat families on biggest losers you know when they go back for home visits

and they go this is my son and my husband and they're all fat and you go there's a deeper rooted issue here um that was my family and mum made a weight watchers quiche that was so goddamn dry a builder could could use it as gyproc give it to percy we can't eat this give it to percy and they threw the whole quiche with one slice out of it in the water percy the pelican obviously just ate it in one gulp and he choked he just floated on the water and died oh my god i'm so confused how did this story come about i don't know but i think we should end it on that note because i'm exhausted that's the nature of ad debrief isn't it we go rogue we end it on that note because I'm exhausted. That's the nature of ADD Brief, isn't it? We go rogue.

We really do. Can we go? Because I'm exhausted and I'm already in bed and I want to sleep, to be honest. Yeah, I don't think, if we end up doing the show from home again next week, don't do it from bed because that, you'll start to trail off early. I know, I'm going to have to do it from my car. That might work. That actually is a good idea.

Well, thanks for listening, guys. Another week of Is It Just Me? It's a bit different this week. I hope you enjoyed it. It was a bit rough, but I actually like the dynamic. Yeah. Well, no, it was just a bit, I actually don't think I was trying as hard, and I think it came across better.

I'm telling you. This is what I've been saying from day one when I've been trying to knock that radio guy out of you. It's less of a performance when we're doing the podcast. It's relax and just chat, you know. I thought this was a wonderful ADD brief because there was no, oh, Debbie's tweeted in. Oh, fuck.

What's that? Yeah. No, we're still doing it. Yeah, really? We've got it up and running, guys, so we can get started. Oh, please. Shut up. No.

I'm actually not on annual leave next week. So it's not illegal for me to leave my home for work purposes. So I, if you guys are fine with it, we can be back in studio. Well, I'm still on air. So I'm around. I'm fine with it. Jenna, I'll pick you up. We'll go, we'll go and we'll have lunch.

I don't know what I'm talking about. See, I'm rambling. We need to go. Where, where, where, just, just think about where I was taking, where was I just taking that? I'm talking about. See, I'm rambling. We need to go. Just think about where I was taking that. I don't know. I was just about to talk about having lunch with Jenna. I need to go to bed. Well, we'll be back in studio next week, everyone.

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