Is It Just Me? - #240: Top or Bottom with Jess Rowe

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

The gorgeous Jessica Rowe pops in for a game of 'Top or Bottom' (It's not as SMUT as it sounds!!) plus she surprises her biggest fan, Jane Coombs!   Also in this episode:  Does time move quicker when you’re getting ready for bed? (04:03) Are the ‘I’m not a robot’ captcha tests too hard? (07:23) Jess Rowe joins us! (09:35) Jess reflects on her TV career at Channel 10 (13:15) Dressing as a fart (17:38) The ‘crap housewife’ sagas (25:06) Laundry chat (27:50) Jess on surviving her 20’s (30:24) Mitchell’s mum Jane meets Jess! (32:53) Top or Bottom? (40:09) Things better than drugs & dick (42:32) Our “Secret Segment” ADDebrief (45:26)   Merch still available! coupleofmitches.com.au 🛍️   Join our Facebook group 'Endurant Idiots' facebook.com/groups/477062186470271 Hit us up: @coupleofmitches Send us a text: 0422 948 202See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is Is It Just Me? Hosted by a couple of Mitches. Hello you! Hello you! Go! Brace yourself for the rude shocks of young adulthood. How dare you leak our company secrets. That's like the newest hiree at KFC walking out with a megaphone and going,

Oregano! Salt, pepper, paprika! Now here's Mitch Turey and Mitchell Coombs. Hello you. Hello you. How are you Mitchell? Yeah good. I actually feel a bit bad right now because it's all setting in that the podcast is coming

to an end. Yeah. You know what happened when I was downstairs at the cafe? Oh here at Pepsi Palace? Mm-hmm. Wow. For the first time in a long time since we moved to this building, they actually

recognised me as a regular. Yeah. I went to get my coffee and they were like, oh, hello. Haven't seen you for a while. And I'm like, oh no. They've only just clocked that I'm a regular and now I'm going to be vanishing from their life. You're going to be gone. The same thing happened to me at that same cafe. Really? Yeah, this week. She said, thanks. Coffee for Mitch, right? And I was like,

yeah. She hasn't gone that far. She doesn't know my name. She recognised that I've been there a few times. That? Yeah, this week. She said, thanks, coffee for Mitch, right? And I was like, yeah. She hasn't gone that far. She doesn't know my name, but she recognised that I've been there a few times. That's sad, isn't it? I know. I was like, oh, shit. They've only decided

to memorise my order. What are you again? I always forget. Soy cap? No. Oat cap? No. Fuck.

Get going. You're not almond. Yeah. You're almond cap? Latte, even. Oh, I'm almond cap. I'm almond cap. Price Keeper Jenna, what are you? Almond You're almond cap? Latte even. I'm almond cap. Price Keeper Jenna, what are you? Almond

hot chocolate. Really? Yeah, and Shelley downstairs knows me too, and I don't even have to talk. She knows my order. Have we addressed the issue with that cafe downstairs on this show, or I don't know, one of my other shows. What's the issue? The issue is that the cafe is D-E-U-X.

D-E-U-X. So-E-U-X. Yeah. So I said to them, oh, so your cafe, your coffee shop's name's Do? They're like, no, it's Duke's Dukes. And I was like, oh, so it's Do times two. She's like, yeah. I'm like, so your coffee shop's name is Doodoo? Because it's D-E-U-X, D-E-U-X. She went, no, it's Duke's Dukes.

And I said, that's French. It doesn't have much of a ring to it. No, but also it's French. The pronunciation is do. It's not Dukes. So she's like, no, no, it's Duke's Dukes. It's like the new bloody joke of have much of a ring to it. No, but also it's French. The pronunciation is do. It's not dukes. So she's like, no, no, it's dukes dukes. It's like the new bloody joke of folia de. Folia de.

A few of us brought it up with them downstairs. Oh, they deny it. And we're like, oh, it's do do, do do. And they're like, I don't know. Imagine it was do do. Yeah. Like the internet. Internet that flies.

Literally. No, they just, I think they just like the name. They don't really say it out loud. Dukes dukes. And it's do do. I love the do do coffee. I love the doo-doo coffee. I love the doo-doo. I've had real doo-doo coffee in Bali.

What's that? It's coffee that they give to a lemur. They make a lemur. Who's a lemur? I hardly know. It's like a monkey. They give this lemur coffee beans and then it eats it and poos it. Oh, for God's sake.

The coffee is made from the shit of the lemur and it gives it really aromatic notes. Why? Guess what? Shit. Why? How did it taste? Like shit, Jenna. For God's sake. The coffee is made from the shit of the lemur, and it gives it really aromatic notes. Why? Guess what? Shit. Why? How did it taste? Like shit, Jenna.

And you tried it? Yes. I went there, tried it in this Balanesian rainforest, and they have the lemurs in cages just pooing, and they're like, this is how it's made. I'm like, no, I had a mental image. I didn't need to actually see it. A lot of poo chat on the podcast in the last couple of weeks.

A lot of shit chat. But you know what? It's real. It comes and goes. Everyone does it every day. Sometimes not every day. I did a poo in Mitchell's spare bathroom the other day, and I'm happy to say I did it. Thanks.

It was clean. It was easy. Spray. It's done. No one smelled it. Thanks for letting us know again. You didn't hear it. Yeah.

We heard the plop. Did you? I didn't. I did. Really? Is Bella Ren? She did not. Well, a plop's a good sign of a healthy shit. That is. Is you? I didn't. I did. Really? Isabella ran. She did not. Well, a plop's a good sign of a healthy shit. That is.

Is it? It's very healthy. Because it's like fibrous. Is that a word? Yeah. Fibrous. Yeah. Fibrous.

You should be proud. Thank you. Welcome to the show, everyone. This is not really how we start the same every episode. No. We kick off with, and is it just me each, something we've noticed, hate or appreciate. Correct. Mitch doesn't know mine.

I don't know Mitch's. Would you like to go first, Mitchell? I would like to go first. Do you want to let us know what yours is about? Oh, I will. Mine is about something that I've discovered on the internet that needs to change. Fascinating. Oh, Jess Rowe.

Well, yeah, she's on the way, but we've got to get the idioms out of the way first. Okay, all right. Yeah. We can't be shaken up the same way we started every episode. Not now. Something is stressing me on the internet. Okay, great. We'll get to that in a bit.

Bradley. Is it just me or? Does time move faster when you're getting ready for bed? Yes. Absolutely. What the fuck's with that? Yes. Explain that.

What do you mean? Falling asleep or? No, just like the last week or so I've been having shit night sleep. And so every fucking night I'll be like, I better have an early night tonight to catch up on some sleep so it'll hit 8 p.m and i'm like right i'll start to wind down i'll take my vitamins brush my teeth have a shower and then clearly i just get caught up with other things procrastinating or i'm like oh i gotta get that bloody load of washing into the dryer and then i'm like it's 11 45 how did that How did that happen? Yeah, I'm with you. I just made the decision to start going to bed early and I'm like,

that's what the fuck? It just flew by. I've also noticed that time goes quicker when you're noticing it. Like if you're thinking about the time, it'll fly by. But I wasn't even checking and then when I got into bed, I was like, ah, early night. Excuse me. It's nearly midnight.

How the fuck did that happen? And that's happened every night. What time of night do you go to bed? Ideally, I like to rock at 10 or 10.30. And then you're asleep by? 10, 10.30, 11-ish, yeah. So how long does it take you to fall asleep? Oh, it really bloody depends.

Sometimes out like a light. Sometimes when I'm extra tired and you'd think I'd fall asleep quicker. No, no, it's torture. That's when it's harder to get to sleep, when I'm more tired. Are you ever on the melatonin? Yeah, I'm still on that shit. And does it work? Not at the moment.

I've got insomnia for the first time in my whole life. Really? Really bad. Have you got a lot going on? Yeah, I'm very stressed. My health has been all over the place. Yeah, maybe that's got something to do with it. I think it's got to do with your anxiety.

Do you think? Yeah, definitely. Really? Because when I was at the height of my anxiety, I had really bad insomnia. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Really? Yeah. I was at the height of my anxiety, I had really bad insomnia. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting.

Really? Yeah. What were your panic attack symptoms? Just having trouble breathing. How do we get here? Well, it's real. It is real. It's very real.

It is real. Wow, this is a real... See, that's why we're so good. We can do all the topics. Yeah. That was a very entry-level dive into panic attacks. Trouble breathing and yeah. Yeah. You know, like just feeling like everything's going to end.

Let's all take a deep breath. Ready? In through the nose. Out through the mouth. How do we all feel? Yeah, good. Fine. Yeah.

Good. Good. That's all you have to do. Even though I'm functioning on very little sleep, I actually feel quite good. Why are you on little sleep? I thought I mentioned that. Oh, is that because? Yes.

Oh, Mitchell. I keep trying to have an early night and then time flies by and I go, how the fuck has this happened again? It's pretty bad. So what's the latest bedtime you've had? 2am. Oh, Mitchell. Yeah. That's scary. I know, and I don't even do it on purpose because I intend to get up early. And it's so upsetting because once

you get to 2am you go, oh my god. You're like, fuck, and I can't sleep in, frustratingly, even if I bloody want to and I deserve to. You can push yourself to 2am, you go, oh my God. You're like, fuck. And I can't sleep in, frustratingly, even if I bloody want to. Same. I deserve to. You can push yourself to do it, surely. No. No, I can't either.

No, my body gets me up at 7. 7? Yeah. Do you feel groggy if you sleep- Sometimes earlier. If you sleep past, do you feel groggy and sick? No, I'd love to sleep past. Yeah.

I try. I try so hard, but it just doesn't happen. Why? It'll be your body clockies because you wake up for the workday for the show. Yeah, but even during breaks and stuff. You can't. No. clock is because you wake up for the work day for the show. But even during breaks and stuff. You can't. No. What time do you wake up?

3am. It's 4. I'm like 9. I'm 8.30 every morning. My alarm's set for 7.50 then I snooze it then I'm out of bed by 8.30. I feel so old

talking about this shit. And I go to bed at 8.30. I'm also quite bored by this shit to be honest. Oh are we? Okay. Mine's a lot more exciting. Okay here we go.

Bradley. Is it just me or? Does the capture service online need to be a lot more clearer with their goddamn instructions? I hate it. Oh, like the verify you're not a robot thing. Yeah. It's like, okay, here's seven tiles and there's a bus inside.

Click all the squares that show a bus. But then the top squares will have like one centimetre of bus. Yeah, so you've got to click that. Well, but that's my question. Do you click that? Yes. It'll be like a crosswalk and you get all the crosswalk, but then there's like a little square of the white slither

of the crosswalk in the top right. And I go, but that's more non-crosswalk than it is. So does it think? Is there crosswalk in the tile? Yeah. Then you're bloody clicking it. Sometimes I click it and it's wrong. Yeah, and then it goes, and it gives you another one.

It's like, find the penguin. Those ones are easy, I find. The one I fucking hate is when they ask you to rotate the animal to be facing the same way as the car or something. I don't get that. Yeah, and I get it wrong every time. I'm like, I swear I'm doing what they've asked me to do. I'm rotating the thing.

It's confusing. You know what I get? I get the puzzle piece and you've got to drag the puzzle piece in. That's easy. That's so simple. I get that one on TikTok. But I was reading that apparently AI, the reason they do these things,

you know, it's like, click this to confirm you're not a robot. It's like, how does that actually stop? I feel like a robot could fucking figure it out. Yeah. If not better than us. No, yeah, well, robots do it super quick. Humans take time. Yeah. Oh, is that the problem? Interesting. Gotcha. I hate the letters where it's like, type what you can see. And I'm like, is that a seven?

Is it an R? I don't know what's going on. And also, like, do I do lowercase, uppercase, or can I do it all in lowercase? Like, I get confused with that. Me too. I hate it. They're really not that hard. No, they are hard.

They're annoying. They stress me out, and they just need to be clearer. Like, you know, maybe they have some rules at the bottom. You know, like, it includes every piece of the image. Well, I'm telling you now, that's what you're meant to do. If there's a tiny bit of the bike tyre in the tile, that's part of the bike. Yeah.

Click it. I always knew you were AI. You're too gorgeous to be human. I actually am AI. What? Artificial insemination. Oh, my God. Yeah.

You are. I am AI. Premium star gay. Call me AI Coombs. I won't be doing that. Is it just me? You can follow the show online. Just search Couple of Mitches.

If you don't, you're a dickhead. Okey-doke. Time to hear from today's guest on the podcast, the one and only Jessica Rowe. We're big fans of her work. We are. She's been on our TV screens for years and now on our TikTok. She's a bloody hoot. She's the best. We spoke to her the other day

and I decided to organise a little surprise for my mother, Jane, who was in town. She was staying with me. She's a big fan of Jess Rose, so I brought her in to meet her. So cute. Wait till you hear the reaction. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, it was so over the top. I wasn't expecting. I didn't know that my mother was that melodramatic, but it was

adorable. We loved having Jess in the studio. You'll love it. If you don't know who Jess is, TV icon, been in the media in the country for a long time. A very funny, very enigmatic, eclectic woman. Very much herself. One of a kind. Loved it. Here we go. This is Us with Jess Rowe. Good evening.

I'm Jessica Rowe. Peter Hogarton and Jessica Rowe. They're everywhere at the moment. This is a moment that we've been waiting for personally, Mitchell, for such a long time. Bucket list moment. Bucket list moment. As you know, the show's terminal. We're in our dying months.

So what we're trying to do is tick off some items from our bucket list. Many things live on that bucket list, but I was only talking last week about how I hate having guests on the show. Yeah, I don't know where that came from. No, not at all. Surely our next guest is not one of those people. That is my next point. No, this guest is the exception because they are so talented.

They're one of the warmest people in the industry. We adore them, Mitchell, since before we even had a show. One of my favourites of all time. Oh, hilarious, fun. She's a mum, TV presenter. She's one of the hottest couples in Australia. A cat lover. She's a cat lover. It is Jess Rowe. Welcome.

I just feel so lucky being here. I instantly feel cooler. I do. I feel like my, if there's such a thing, my cool radar is like gone up. Your aura. That's what they say. Yeah. You've got aura points from being here.

I mean, as far as outfits go, you take the cool cake. Yeah. Definitely. I feel so underdressed next to Jessica Rowe. Yeah, Jessica's... Where do you even buy tulle? Like, what is that, tulle? Well, this is my confetti jacket, and I had to bring the confetti,

the party, for all of you. I love it. I love an outfit. I normally, as you know, like to incorporate a cat something in my outfit, but I haven't today. I'm sorry. Okay, now, we need to address this romance, because Mitch and I walk up, and, you know, a couple of Mitches, Mitch and Mitch,

people go, oh, we love the Mitches. And we walk up, Jess pushes us to the side, tackles Jenna to the ground and goes, it's you, Jenna. Forget these two clowns, it's Jenna. Totally. She thought we were the assistants. What is going on here? I'm so excited to see Jenna in this, guys,

because we bonded over pussycats. We're crazy cat ladies and when I was doing a fill-in shift for Jonesy and Amanda, filling Amanda's very big shoes, Jenna and I got chatting and we were talking about cats and I've got cat suits, boxes of them at home, merch. Of course you do. Yeah. And as soon as I saw photos of them, I was like, I have to.

Because I love Pilates. Yeah. And I love cats. And I love Jess Rowe. You're not going to wear it to Pilates, are you? I've not seen this cat suit. Is it Pilates appropriate? It is very Pilates appropriate. Absolutely.

It's a onesie, so it's all in one. And why it's great for Pilates or any kind of exercise really is it covers everything. So nothing hangs out. Oh, I love that. And it's got pictures of smiling cats all over it. Wow. Very cute. I've just had to Google it.

It's not at all what I was picturing. I was picturing some furry shit, you know what I mean? I was picturing furries too, like Mardi Gras, you know. Or like a Furby. Oh, no. Yeah, kind of. Oh, but they like, okay, that's right. It gets them going.

It's not this. No, it's not. But it does get me going. Where is it? That's it. In a very different way. Yeah, we are very excited to have you here because Mitch and I, and Jenna, I suppose, we are like TV nerds.

I remember, surely you guys remember too, like the golden days of Channel 10. It was Jess Rowe and Ron Wilson on the news, the Simpsons, Neighbours. Oh, you were just glued to Channel 10 back in the day. First of five. Yes, first of five. There's something so nostalgic about it. But I reckon now you'd kind of be glad that you're not in a newsreader job, right?

Because you're not able to show a lot of personality in something like that, are you? Not at all. And I loved at the time being like a news presenter in averted commas. I mean, you were bloody good at it. So good. Oh, thank you. But that was not the true Jess that we know. No, but also the point is it wasn't all of me.

And I think when I began as a journalist, I was very, you know, I thought I had to be serious. And I had these ideas of I was going to be an overseas correspondent and I was very, and it was at a time when you had to just be one thing. I'm going to be a serious journalist. I'm a news presenter. So therefore I have to always be serious.

But my favourite story every night was the panda story. I'm obsessed with pandas and that was forever my goal that we have to see. We need a panda story. As in literally a panda story. Oh, the light and fluffy one. I'm obsessed with pandas and that was forever my goal, that we have to see, we need a panda story. As in literally a panda story specifically or just the term they use for something light and fluffy? Or it could be the cat up the tree story. But I know it was legitimately we need a panda story. So every night that was one of the producers' jobs and we'd come up

with all the different, you know, pandemonium and all of those kind of cliches. But that was my highlight because I could show a bit of my personality. How did you go? And this is, you know, good for the young listeners who are in their one line of work and they're in their early 20s and they go, but I kind of want to do this. Is that your advice to start having little moments where you're doing exactly what it is you want to do?

And then does that lead to more of that? start having little moments where you're doing exactly what it is you want to do and then does that lead to more of that i'm always hesitant to sort of give advice yeah because it's different for everyone and i i think the key for all of us though having said i won't give advice i'll give some advice if i am a mama is back yourself and have a crack go Go for it. What is the worst thing that can happen? I've had plenty of very public failures, but I don't regret them because I gave it a go. So I think don't be afraid. Don't be afraid of tapping into what is it your heart is telling you or ignore the logical part because sometimes we can logic things away. Oh, no, no, no.

But just go for it and it's when I've had those leaps of faith that I've learnt the most and it's been the best thing of all so I think if the people listening don't be afraid and just go for it yeah literally my therapist is always encouraging me don't forget to be playful just because you're an adult now doesn't mean you can't be playful. Yeah, yeah. Have fun. And that is the point, though. I think the older I get, because I'm now 54, my Botox, though, that helps me look a little bit smoother, but the older I get, the more playful I am.

Yeah. We've noticed. Do you reckon that all started on Studio 10, where you were allowed to have a bit more fun? It wasn't serious journalism. You got to show the true quirky Jess. I think that was definitely the more public side of people seeing the more playful me. Whereas there'd always been that part of me that my friends knew that would be love a costume and dress up and be silly.

Like I remember many years ago, a friend of mine for her hen's night, she was like, I don't want a hen's night. We're not doing it. I said, no, you have to. This is really, you've got to do it. And she was like, no strippers, none of that. I said, I promise you there'll be none of that. There'll be no silliness.

But her name was Georgie and it was like we have to come as something dressed as G. That was my idea. So I went as a gorilla. And it was the best costume. And she and her now husband, he picked us up to drop us to the restaurant where we were all going. And she just saw this gorilla and she started going, no, no. Because she thought it was like a gorillagram or something.

She didn't realise it was you. She didn't realise it was me. But then she looked down and she saw my leopard print stilettos and then went, that's Jess. That's got to be. That is. So I think there's always been that playful part of me. But what, yes, what I loved about doing Studio 10 was that I could be

truly myself. Yeah. And so I could be silly and like dress as a fart. I mean, I dressed as a fart. I do remember that. I remember that. How? How do you do that?

What was the reason? There was some dress up situation. It was Halloween. That's right. Yeah, a fart. It was Halloween and, you know, and craft. I've always loved craft since I was a little girl. I liked to fashion a costume or a hat or something.

And I crafted this amazing sort of headdress on a headband. And I had brown tulle and yellow tulle and green tulle. And Petey, my husband, he's lying next to me in bed and he's saying, what are you doing? And he calls me Pussycat. Pussycat, what are you doing? And I said, I'm making a fart costume. I bet he wasn't even that shocked. Well, no, he wasn't because he basically said,

you get more eccentric the older you get. And I went, yes, I do. So he rolled over and went back to sleep. So I'm stitching away. And so the next morning, and I wanted to surprise everyone, so I scurried out at the end. And I remember I sat next to Ida Buttrose and she just looked at me and she was like, who are you?

What are you? And I said, I'm a fart. And she looked at me and she was like, why? And I said, why not? And to me, though, I think that's a really great philosophy for life. When people come at you for certain things, they'll say, why would you do that? And I just thought, well, why not?

When am I ever going to get the chance to dress as a fart on national television? And have a laugh! And now you can say you've done that. How many other people can? Exactly! Oh, I need a photo of the fart. That's incredible.

I need photos. It's online. Jess, does it upset you to see where TV is, you know, TV ratings and traditional TV, and that's where you come from? But then looking at me, Studio 10 no longer with us, RIP. Sorry to interrupt, but that's the fart costume. See, look. And I made it. And look at the green.

There's the green. Because I was so excited. Oh, God, the green. That's brilliant. Oh, my God. As you were saying. You should auction that off. No, but how do you feel with our state of TV?

I mean, it's sad, don't you think? It makes me sad. And why it makes me sad is that there's so many fabulous creative people who work in television. And because it is changing so much, it's sort of, well, where can we all go? But I suppose what makes me sad is the lack of imagination when it comes to free-to-air television. It's let's recycle same old formulas because people don't want to take a risk and it's expensive. So that's the part that makes me sad. Oh, I feel that. I mean, but then you've got influencers

and you've got social media like you. You have Skyrocket. What are your social numbers? I mean, they'd be through the roof, right? You've become a bit of a TikTok star, haven't you? You are. You're so good on TikTok. Oh, thank you.

I love it. I've got to get back onto the TikTok-ing. So good. Have you stopped? Well, no, I haven't stopped, but it takes time. So I've got, like, people will look at my phone and they'll go how come you have got like a thousand unread emails and pictures and all this stuff so I filmed all these things but I need to sit down and and my daughter's teased me because I

need glasses and I'm there like breathing heavily through my nose as I'm like scrolling and then cutting little clips on my phone to put onto things. And then I'll say, what's the music? And they're like, mum, if you even have to ask that question, don't put music on it. And I'll say, well, what's the trend? No. No, don't ask. Because if you're asking for the trend, it's gone. Yeah.

It's past. A moment's happened. It's gone. But I enjoy, what I like about TikTok is it's another form of storytelling. Yeah. And very much sort of what you all do around the microphone, you're sharing stories. And that's really how we connect with people. So even though you asked, Mitch, you know, how do you feel?

Do you feel sad about what's happening with telly? Is, yes, there's a part of me that is, but there's still all these really exciting ways of storytelling, which is far more accessible to a whole lot more people. Yeah. And that's great. Yeah. My, though, for you page or feed, whatever you call it, it's a lot of blackhead extraction. Oh, yeah.

I'm obsessed with that. It's so satisfying. Isn't it? You just look at it and go, oh. Do you and Pete, because some couples love to pop each other's pimples. Like my partner will love to pop my pimples and I think it's a bit gross. Yeah, I do too. Yeah, I've got some friends who are like, I don't want to touch my partner's pimple.

Would you ever, if Petey had a blackhead, would you get it for him? Well, no. Not now. There's a difference between watching and doing it. And also there's, you see, we're older. So we don't really get the blackheads. We have the larger pores, as my daughters like to remind me. When I left here to talk to you all, they're like,

Mum, you need some powder. Really? Yes, but I didn't put powder on because I think it accentuates pores when you get older. Well, anyway, thank you. I'll say that to my girls. They're like, Mum, your pores. But, yeah, with Petey and I, we don't really have the blackheads so much anymore.

I wish I had that problem. That's great. I know, right? No blackheads. Oh, hello. Look at all of your youthful skin. All three of you. Yeah, it's the powder, Jess. I've powdered it on. And you're so smooth, Mitchell. And your hair. Like, it's so glossy. It's not. I've got to say, I look

at people like you with short hair and I go, fuck, your life must be easier than mine. It is. Every day it crosses my mind. Should I just bloody chop it off? Do you have to blow dry it every day? Not every day, but sometimes it's just a lot of work. It's too high maintenance sometimes.

Especially washing it. I can't. Yours is down to your ass crack. You need to find a middle ground. It is lovely But I would never have the You see the patience for long hair I've had short hair

Since I was I reckon 18 Or 19 Same hairdresser for over 30 years I won't let anyone else touch my hair And I've followed him to all the different salons he's gone to And we have this ongoing joke Where every time I sit in his chair, I say, can we have the hair talk?

He's like, okay, but what is there to talk about? You just want the same. Same thing. Yeah. And also what I like to do now is, although it's a bit boring at the moment, is to mix it up with the colour. Yeah, you had pink hair for a little bit, didn't you? Yeah, pink.

I've done pink. I've done coral. I quite like the coral. Yeah, coral's nice. Or a little bit, didn't you? Yeah, pink. I've done pink. I've done coral. I quite like the coral. Yeah, coral's nice. Or a pale rock melon. I did a pale rock melon. But Petey, my husband, was like, oh, pussycat, I have to take you to the retirement village.

He hated it. He didn't like it? No, because he was literally like, oh, this is like a blue rinse. It's just something old ladies do, right? Because that's the only colour that attaches to grey hair. Oh, is that real? I didn't know that. I see a lot of purple.

Which is why they do it. I didn't know that either. I just thought it was a big colour for the oldies. I know they love purple. Your hair looks great. Oh, thank you. But I do need to mix it up again with a bit of colour. So whenever I go to the hairdresser, Petey looks at me like, what colour are you doing?

I say to him, all right, Petey, I'm going boring Labrador colour for you, crazy colour next time. That's love. I do love hearing all the stories about Petey being so patient with you, especially all the crap housewife stuff because not only have you made it no secret that you are a crap housewife but you've completely embraced it it's actually genius you're like it's my brand now i can't be expected to be good at this exactly and what i had not expected was that by embracing being a crap housewife by embracing my imperfection that it would resonate with so many other people. And for me, because I had terrible postnatal depression after the birth of both of my girls,

and it was particularly bad after I had Allegra, who's now 17. And so much of that was tied up with thinking I had to be perfect, that I had to be the perfect mom. I had to keep the house looking perfect. I had to know the perfect mom. I had to keep the house looking perfect. I had to know what to do. And for me being able to, with a lot of help, with a psychiatrist, with my medication, able to learn to go, you know what? You don't have to be perfect. Embrace your imperfection. And then having a laugh at myself. So calling myself a crap housewife, posting to socials

with the hashtag crap housewife, it then resonated with a whole lot of other people. Because often when we're going through really hard times, you feel like it is only you. And all it takes is often to hear someone else also struggling to go, oh, I'm not alone in this. It is, isn't it? The weight that you feel off your shoulders. Incredible. And that was what happened with me.

So with Crap Housewife, I remember it began with social media through conversation. As often, great things can come from conversation. And I was talking with a friend and our kids were of a similar age. And we were both really struggling. We were bored. Like, it's really boring with little kids. Oh, I can only imagine. It's like keeping them alive and changing and happy, aren't you?

And then when they're toddlers, it's like, They're bloody annoying. I don't want to go to the park and sit in the sandpit. This is really boring. And so this particular friend was similar, like-minded to me. And I was like, have you seen these perfect meals and perfect lives that people are posting? And she's like, oh, my God, yes. And I said, but that's not me.

And there was a part of me that was thinking, oh, no, I'm not good enough. And then there was another part of me that got angry and thought, no, this is crap. I'm going to start posting to socials with the hashtag Crap Housewife what I in fact cook for my family each night. Even if it's a bit burnt, it's not quite right. Lots of burnt brown food, mints in all sorts of different guises because you can never stuff up with mints. Mints, that's great. And then also to my messy house and my laundry baskets that would forever be an explosion of clothes that would just be at the bottom of the stairs.

It is interesting that someone who's a self-proclaimed crap housewife has now become the ambassador for vanish laundry powder. Oh, can you believe it? I love that. Do they realise that they've backed someone who doesn't even like washing? Do they follow you? Are they across? They are. And this is what is so spectacular is that being able to team up with Vanish,

their packaging is all this wonderful bright pink. And they have this terrific new Vanish Gold Pro, which you can put in the wash, 30 minutes, 20 degrees Celsius. That's the one I've got. It's good shit. It is good, isn't it? It removes any tough stain. Can you do black and white?

Well, you've got to separate it. Yes, of course. Yes, yes. Obviously. Sorry. I'm shaking here. This isn't my domain. Sorry.

It's not really mine. Sorry. Here am I saying. Is that bad, you gents? Exactly. How dare I laundry shame you? The only reason, Mitch, that I actually know that is because Petey, my husband, he is a whiz in the laundry. Really?

So it's actually, it's his job. So he's pretty excited by all the Vanish Gold Pro pink buckets everywhere because he is just on fire with the laundry. And what is also wonderful is he has passed that trait on to our eldest daughter, Allegra. Proud of that one. She loves doing the laundry. You are living the dream. You've lucked out big time having people to do it for you. Exactly.

They both have it covered. Giselle, who's 15, even though she's very organised, she's messier like me. She's someone who sort of just drops things, you know, when you sort of drop as you go. Yeah, my undies off. My undies go down and they stay down. That's it. That's where they are.

I hate that. I hate that. No, no. Yeah, my pyjamas every morning. I go to bed every night. I go, where the hell are my pyjamas? And they're always in the shower because I get up in the morning, I just drop my pyjamas and I get straight in the shower

and they stay on the floor. It's bad, Jess. No, it is not bad. It's real. It's you. And I think for all of us, what's so important to recognise is embrace who you are. Don't feel like you've got to fit into someone else's idea

of what having a good life is all about or being in a good relationship or whatever it might be. Just do you. Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of mitches. So Jess, what was it like for you when you were in your 20s like we are and you first moved out of home because you say that you're messy, you hate chores and so when you first moved out and you're offending for yourself, how did that go?

I'm looking at you wincing right now. Well, I was a shocker. I mean, I was of the generation where the minute we could leave home, we left home. Yeah. And so I left home at 18 and then I moved away to go to uni and I lived on campus for my first year, which was great because we had to eat campus food. It was pretty bad food, but I didn't have to cook. Yeah, perfect.

And then I moved into a share household, which was just the pits. Yeah. Like it was so grotty. I could not do it. Even for me, like there was mould on the tiles. But that's a rite of passage, isn't it? Of course it is. Of course it is.

We've all got mould inhalation from our share house days. And I was lucky enough that I had some beautiful, generous friends who were far more responsible than me who would actually use their money to buy food, whereas I'd use my money to buy shoes. And I'd sort of go, oh, my God, because I had off study at the time, which was sort of the allowance that you get, very meagre amount from the government,

but it was still great. But I'd blow it on a pair of shoes and then I'd go. I'd do the same. Oh, my goodness. What am I going to eat for the next week? You look good. But my lovely friends, they feed me. So I sort of learnt via osmosis.

But there is still that tendency in me not to be irresponsible, but to splash out. And thank goodness for Petey because he makes sure the car register is paid. Insurance. Insurance, but all of those practical things. And is your licence up to date? Like all of those sort of adult things. The yin and the yang.

Yeah, he does all that, whereas I do like the show and he's like no, this is not funny. We don't need the after dinner show. You might think it's hilarious. Instagram live, the after dinner show, Jess. We all want to see that. And your jokes. My mum

jokes. I actually bought my mother that joke book for Mother's Day. No way! I actually got it. Jane Coombs, Mitch's mother mum's jokes. I actually bought my mother that joke book for Mother's Day. Oh, no way! I've actually got it. She is a huge fan of yours. Jane Coombs, Mitch's mother, is one of the biggest Jess Rofer, even I know it, that she adores you. Oh, my God. I don't want to put you on the spot, but she's staying with me at the moment.

I love your mum. She's in the building. Is she? Yeah. Can I bring her in to meet you? Oh, my God. Is she seriously here? Yeah, she's staying with me at the moment.

Okay, I'll go get Jane. This is Jane. Oh, my God. She's from Boug staying with me at the moment. Okay, I'll go get her. Get Jane. This is Jane. Oh, my God. She's from Bougainvillea, rural Australia. Yes, which I've driven. I've been there at Bougainvillea. Put a pin in Bougainvillea, Jess. Oh, my God.

She's coming in. Here we go. This is Jane. I'm so excited. This is Jane. Get in here. Can I come and give you a hug? Yes.

Oh, Jane. Yes, yes, yes. Hello. Oh, she's stoked. i can't believe that the woman i wake up to every morning oh the woman i wake up to every morning jay oh she's crying oh chewy oh you make my day every day oh that's so special do we leave? Your honesty and you're just beautiful. Jane, go on the microphone. You can have a chat. I want to actually ask you, Jess, because mum lives in Bogengate.

That's where I grew up. And mum got the shock of her life when she saw you post on Instagram, you in Bogengate. I know. And I told you, didn't I? I said, oh, my God, she's near the sign. And I didn't know I would have been in there. What the hell were you doing there?

I just adore you. She was going to condo CWA, wasn't she? Mum knows. I was. I was on my way there. No. And I had the best time there. But I wish I'd known you then, Jane, because I would have loved to have stopped off.

You would have come to the Bodengate Park. Yes. Or out to the farm. Yes. Jess, you need to check your car for an air tag. I think Jane's placed it in there. Oh, this is great. I've got to go back to the microphone, but I just want to keep giving you hugs.

That means so much to me. They're so cute. Aw. You must be so proud of your son. Oh, I am so proud. Yeah. But I'm like the boy from Bodengate and these guys like they're just amaze me every day but what a beautiful mum you are tell me then what's because my daughters

they're 15 and 17 now and i was a bit of a nightmare at that age what's my um yes mitchell's always been my special one. Yeah. Oh, okay. You can just say queer. No, no, not at all. Yeah, I just love seeing your daughters doing so well. They were doing a modelling and just looking so stunning. Thank you. Yeah, I don't know why.

It just sort of makes me really happy. And she loved the joke book I got her. And the clothes. I know, I know. I'm this complete bogan. No, you're not. You've got your fabulous country road, which is so cool. Country road.

I'm usually in my grotty farm clothes and you in your beautiful, bright, colourful clothes. But you don't have to compare, Jane. You're completely different people, you know. And look, you can still connect over being mothers. Yeah. But it's not even, I think, you know what it's about too. I believe, Jane, and I was chatting earlier, like I love getting older.

And I find the older I get, I care less about all the naysayers out there. Definitely. And I'm more and more keen to tap into joy. Yes. What is it that brings me joy? What makes my heart sing? Yeah. And it's so true.

Like, you just don't care as much as you used to about what people think about you, what they say about you. And to me, that's the only good thing about getting older. But it's a good thing though. Nana, like that is. Yeah, both Mitch's will tell you that, yeah, nanas love being nanas. They're both uncles now.

I just had a niece. Mitch just had a niece as well. I've been an uncle for ages. That wasn't the first. And is it different? Because I'll often hear people say that being a grandmother is different to being a mum, that the sort of love you feel is different or is it the same for you? I guess it's a different sort of joy. Maybe it's a more relaxing one because with the grandchildren, it's just, oh, you are so cute. What? They've got

a problem? Deal with that, parents. Yes. They're just cute. Because that is the thing, isn't it? And I hadn't realised this until I became a mum, was that you never stop being a mum in the sense of you're never there yet. Your kids are never there yet. And each step that my girls go through, I'm along with them. And I want to, if I can fix something, I'm a terrible helicopter parent. I still, I try not to be, but I do hover. What do you mean? What's that mean?

It means. Like I hover around. Like I hover around them. Maybe a bit too much. A bit on them. Yes. I'm like there. Yeah.

Yeah. And like I shout at people on escalators. No, I don't think. Well, once I did. What do you mean? No, because there was one time, like when people, and I'm sure, Jane, you could relate to this, when people are unkind to your kids, that is like. Oh, mama bear.

Oh, look out. She gets more riled up at the TikTok comments than I do. Yes, but exactly. And there was this particular time when I was on the escalators with my daughters. We were going up the escalators and then there was some kids at the bottom of the escalators, similar age, but I could see that they were talking about the girls

and giving them not very nice looks. So we went up and then I turned around and I went, I hope everyone's being kind down there. And my girls are going, oh, mum, what are you doing? But I'm like, no, like I'm not going to have that so obviously people being mean. Yes. In that way.

Yeah, yeah. You definitely have this, that mama bear protective thing definitely. I'm going to let you keep chatting motherhood off the cloud. Sorry to kick you out of the show. No, it's all right. The show's ending and at this rate we won't have any time for any other episodes. Can I just say one thing that I'd like all my children to hear, and then I'll let you

get on to other things, that they will always be the first people we think about when we wake up. Where does this come from? And the last people we think about when we go to sleep. Forever. Yeah. And am I in that? Or no, I'm sort of on the periphery of that.

She thinks of you around lunchtime. But Jane, beautifully said, and you're so right. Yeah, when they grow up and leave home and you'll have that sad, hard part to deal with. Well, it's that silver thread, isn't it, that forever connects you to your kids and that can never be broken. That's right, yeah, even though I'm in Bogengate and they're miles away. Sorry to keep bringing that up.

No, no. No, you're fine. Let's finish this episode and you can have a hug. Give Jane another hug. I'll get a gorgeous photo of you two once we're done here. Oh. Oh. Right back at you, hey.

That's so funny. Oh. Yeah, all right. Bye, Jane. See you, Jane. Bye, Jane. Your mum is heaven. And for me, though, my heart is full after meeting your mum

because life is all about connection. And if we can connect with one another, it makes such a difference. That, to me, is the stuff of life. So that's made my day, my week, my everything. I have to bill her, though, like with telehealth or something. That was very therapy towards you. It was beautiful. I wasn't expecting that.

Mum was so blasé. She goes, oh, I'll talk to Jess. That was very therapy towards you. It was beautiful. I wasn't expecting that. Mum was so blasé. She goes, oh, I'll talk to Jess. I might come see the studio. Oh, Jess will be there. Interesting. Okay. And then basically cries in here. So good.

So good. Can we do one more thing with you before you go? Oh, yes. This feels bloody stupid to do this now because we just got real deep. And if it's not that deep. No, but you see, I love that, though. I like to have the big, deep and meaningfuls, but then we've got to have a laugh. All right, so what we're doing now is it's silly and stupid.

Yeah, because you are the vanish ambassador and also a crap housewife. We just want to see, okay, how well do you really know washing machines and the whole laundry process? Are you an expert? You know that there's two kinds, the top loaders and the front loaders, yes? Ah, yes, I do. Okay, great. So we're going to play some audio of washing machines, and you have to guess top or bottom. So this, everyone, is top or bottom with Jessica Rowe.

Are you ready? I'm ready. Okay. Okay. A game about laundry. This is laundry. Top or bottom? Jessica Rowe, top or bottom?

That's top. Correct. She did it. Wow. I was thinking bottom, just the wetness. Oh, Mitchell. No, I'm just... No, because the top machine, it's noisier.

There's a drum. Yes. What about this one? Top or bottom? That's bottom, I reckon. Correct. Oh, my God. Jessica Rowe.

An expert. Vanish are going to be thrilled. Vanish have chosen the right ambassador. Absolutely. What about the next one? I reckon that's top. That sounded like the water going in from the top. Oh! That sounded like the water going in from the top. You know what that is, though?

I think that's a power bottom. I think because it sounds like it's got a bit more, you know, guts. More drum in it. Yeah, I was picturing the drum too, Jess. What about this one? Oh. Top or bottom, Jessica? That's top.

Bingo. Yeah, she's right. She's done it. That sounds like my childhood top. It does. Yes. Because when I was a kid. And when you'd put too many towels or something in there.

And it would, like, they'd get all stuck and you'd have to. Yeah. I mean, so far you're doing pretty bloody well. We've got one more. Okay. Top or bottom? I'm going to say bottom. Nah, that's a top.

Hey, three out of five. That's a pass. That's a pass. That's a bloody pass. You get to keep the vanish check. Thank you so much. And thank you to Vanish GoPro. Yes.

Get it in there. Now, one more thing before you go. Thank you so much. And thank you to Vanish GoPro. Yes. Get it in there, Jess. Now, one more thing before you go. Oh, of course. I know that you don't like smut a lot, but we ask every guest the same question. They add to our list. It's just a little thing in life you appreciate, something that brings you joy, because our younger listeners, we don't want them going down that path of debauchery. Dark path.

We don't want them obsessed with partying and boys. So it's like a good crunch of an apple. Yeah. Stepping on a crunchy autumn leaf. Something like that. Angela Bishop said her waterbed. That's what she put. Yeah, she loves her waterbed.

Interesting. Kate Langbrook said eating streaky bacon in bed. The reason that I'm reluctant to bring it up is because it's called the list of things better than drugs and dick. Anyway. Come on. Jess is an adult. A Chiquito bar.

Oh. I love a Chiquito bar. Oh. I love a Chiquito bar while I read my Kindle at night in bed. Oh, a Chiquito bar. I don't know if I know what a Chiquito bar is. It's black and orange. The wrapper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that.

It's black with orange font, orange writing. Yes. Well, I know you do. I love how you go font. It's not what I mean, but you know what I mean. No, but that's like so young person. Is that font? Yeah, like all the font.

I mean, I get all excited over the new font on like Instagram. I'm like, ooh, look at that one. Look at that font. That confuses the hell out of me. Me too. I hate Instagram fonts. Why do we sound old now? I'm like, oh, why do they keep changing things?

Yeah, they're good. Do you want to put the photo behind or the photo in front? I'm like, this is Instagram. No, but the font says a lot about who you are. It does. Or what font you use. I think Jess Rowe is like Windings. You know, like, do you ever do the font? Like, Mitchell,

you're not Calibri or Ariel. I'm talking fonts here. All the graphic design. You're Comic Sans. Yes, I'm Comic Sans. Very Comic Sans. See, Jenna, you are a gorgeous, I think, like an Ariel, like a classic. You're a timeless classic. I think Jess is Windings. like a classic. You're a timeless classic. You know?

And then I think Jess is Windings. Windings is that font which is just eccentric and eclectic. See, I can't see. I haven't got my glasses on. I'm doing that squinting old person. What? Yeah, she is. She is.

This is incredible. Oh, you've been a hoot. Thank you so much. I want to keep talking. It's fine. I mean, Jane's waiting outside. You'll be talking a while. Don't youowe. You've been a hoot. Thank you so much. I want to keep talking. It's fun, isn't it? I mean, Jane's waiting outside. You'll be talking a while.

Don't you worry. You're not going anytime soon. Jess Rowe, we adore you. Also, the Jess Rowe Big Chat Show. You can get Jess, obviously, your podcast. Yeah, wherever you get your podcasts. Is it the Big Talk Show, not the Big Chat Show? Oh, sorry, Jeff. Big Talk Show.

Here's me. I'm just nodding at you. Going, yeah, Big Chat Show. I'm such a radio presenter. I just speak. The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show. That's your podcast. Oh, I said Big Chat Show. Sorry, Jess. I'm such a radio presenter. I just speak. The Jessro Big Talk Show. Oh, I said big chat show. Sorry, Jess.

You put in big and then it'll come up. Yes, you're right. Jessro Big. Oh, God. That's after too many Chiquita bars. See, that's the issue. I'm glad we finally did that, Mitchell. That was beautiful.

Yeah, thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you all. I love this. And we will catch you back on Monday, idiots. Thank you for listening. Thanks, guys. See you soon. Bye. this. And we will catch you back on Monday, idiots. Thank you for listening. Thanks, guys.

See you soon. Bye. Bye. Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of mitches. Make sure you've hit follow on your podcast app. Welcome to ADD Brief, our secret segment on the end we uh just have a quick debrief at the end we do we pretend the show is done yeah wow how dramatic was my mother you know what i loved it well i haven't spent that much time physically with your mother but i didn't realize she was

that fucking dramatic yeah no she she loved it i think she got swept up in it because she's like a country girl. These things don't happen. She doesn't get to meet her favourite icon. Tell us why, Jess Rowe. Why does your mum like Jess? I thought she made that quite clear. She bloody poured her heart out in front of Jess. It was very cute.

I loved it. I really did. Jess took it so well. Oh, my God, my Is It Just Me sticker went through the wash. And now you gave me an Is It Just Me sticker? Oh, because I've got one on my laptop. Yeah, I was going to put it on my Mac book as well. I've got it on mine too.

Went through the wash. I fucked it up. Oh. We did have spares, didn't we? Yeah, I've got some spares. Oh, can I have one? Yeah. I actually really want one.

Yeah. I'll put it on my work. How did it go through the wash? Because I put it in the top pocket of mine. Oh, no. I hate it when people don't check their pockets. The amount of Sean's business cards that are not only all through our clothes, but all over the fucking carpet.

Because when we take shit out of the washing machine, the bloody drops out everywhere, the bits of fluff. It does my head in. It's the lint. Check your pockets, everyone. Check your pockets. If you're like Peter Overton and me where you're the one stuck

doing the bloody washing, it's infuriating when people don't check their pockets. My mum used to check my dad's pockets and like blazer bits just for cash. I'm not checking the pocket for you. That's their responsibility. But what if there's money in there? Who carries cash these days?

True. True. Sean wouldn't, would he? No. He's on business cards to give out. I know. And I'm like, why do you need? I get that you might want a business card in there if you're networking, but does it

have to be 12 of them? There's just always fucking business cards. And they're so politely sat at the front of the washing machine. Like, I don't know how they figure it out, but the machines, like, throw the paper at the front. But by that point, it's too late. And it's just disintegrated. Yeah, but business cards defunct.

Not in his industry, I don't think. Really? In politics, they'd be going to bloody luncheons and light sappers and fucking morning teas and they'd be, like, networking, you know. Yeah, a politician came in here to be on the morning show that I work on. What was it called? It's called Jonesy and Amanda. There you go.

There's a dollar or whatever. Anyway, he came in. She's become brazen. I had to take a photo of him with Jonesy and Amanda. Oh, wow, $2. Oh, my God. Hang on. There we go again.

Ka-ching. Yep. And he gave me his business card to send the photos to with all his details. Oh. And it just felt weird. Yeah. Mitch is right, though, for politicians. They have to.

Yeah. Was that story worth two of your dollars? Yeah, I think so. Your hard-earned dollars. I think so. I actually disagree. I could have gone with that. I'd pay you $2 to not hear it.

Oh, okay. Can you? No, I'm not giving you any of my money. Mitch, you've got to- Imagine if I charged debit then edited it out. Oh, my God. Ponzi scheme've got to- Imagine if I charged her, but then edited it out. Oh my God. Ponzi scheme. Add that to the bucket list.

We need to start deducting the cash. From what? The swear jar. Yeah, where are we up to? Let me have a quick look. Oh, yeah. Well, I've got to add two for Jenna now. Yeah.

Two dollars. You haven't mentioned she who shall not be named, the missing child. Who is it? Maddie McCann. I don't care. We're ending. I'll transfer you in one bolt go. it? Maddie McCann. I don't care. We're ending. I'll transfer you in one bolt go. But it's still costing you.

I don't mind. I'm good for it. Well, Jenna's only on, well, she's on one for The Child and now three for Jonesy and Amanda, which we're allowed to say. Mitch, you're nearly on 15 for The Missing Child. Fucking hell. How much? How much? How much?

Is it 14? 13. So 13 bucks. Oh, fuck. You have to round it out. Add a dollar, Mitchell. Add a dollar. Why?

For what I just did. I just did. Oh, Matty McCann, Matty McCann. Get it to 15. Okay, there you go. Pay some cash. It's the end of the show. Remember we tricked poor intern Georgia into saying it?

Oh, intern Georgia. I wonder if she's heard the news yet. I've just done a quick tally. $23 in the jar in total. Okay. That's barely a coffee run these days. Why don't we donate it to some sort of group? Who?

An organisation. I don't know. I'm not ISIS. I don't know why you both said who. Do you know what I saw on Facebook the other day? I follow my old high school on fucking Facebook. Red Gum or something. Red Bend.

Red Bend. You were close. And because there's so many bloody students there, you know how normally schools have four houses? Yeah. Like blue, red, yellow, green. Always. Classics.

When I was there, they added two more. What colours? Purple and orange. Oh. And now on Facebook the other day, I saw that they've added another two, and guess what they've called one of them? What?

McKillop. Oh. Wow. I love that. That's lazy. and guess what they've called one of them? What? McKillop. Oh, wow. I love that. That's lazy. That's bloody lazy. Mary deserves it. You may as well just call it Jesus. What are the others?

Oh, God, now you're testing me. Basil. Rocket. Parsley. No. Basil. Leola. Xavier.

Dennis. Which, hilariously, everyone would always go and take a pen and just turn the capital D into a P, so it was penis. Pretty funny. Classic. And then, fucking hell, I can't remember the new ones. There's McKillop now. Nice.

Does anyone even care? I could try and remember them, but yeah. No, no. Well, should we go? It's been a long episode with Jess, Ro. Yeah, I suppose. All right, well, thanks for listening, idiots. I had to be in the orange house, though.

Yuck. No, I wouldn't. No, that's yuck. I was yellow. I was green. I was in basil. Yellow was emu house for me. Yuck. No, I wouldn't. I was yellow. I was green. I was in basil. Yellow was emu house for me. Emu.

This is for all girls in Kookaburra house. Yeah, that's why I said it. I was in Aracoola. Were you? Yeah. Bogengate Public School just had flowers. I was in Banksia. It was us versus Warratah. Yeah, of course. My primary school had

Australian animals, so I was red wombat. Yeah, I get you. Yeah. How boring. Yeah, maybe we should end, definitely. Ours were all just saints at the high school. Religious. That's why.

It's surprising that MacKillop didn't get a run till now. Yeah. Our MacKillop. Of course. Our MacKillop. Anyway, we hope this podcast made you feel at least 2% better today. That's all, just 2%. So we do. Thank you to Jessaroe for coming on. Thanks. Thank you. A treat. Love 2% better today. That's all, just 2%. So we do.

Thank you to Jesseroy for coming on. Thanks, Jess. A treat. Lazy. What's it called? Crap Housewife. Lazy. Crap Housewife.

You got the podcast wrong too. Yeah, I know. It's still worth a plug. Jesseroy on Instagram. Peter Overton, Channel 9. Azalea, her daughter, on modelling or whatever it is. Allegra. Allegra, yeah.

Bye, bub. See you next week. Bye. Is it just me? A, Bob. See you next week. Bye. Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of mitches. Make sure you've hit follow on your podcast app.